wellRED podcast - #403 - The Fatty Arbuckle Movie That Never Was + Nepo Baby and Tim Walz Talk

Episode Date: August 28, 2024

Hey y'all! On this episode we start off by talking about The John Candy/Richard Lewis film Wagons East and then somehow got around to Jamie Lee Curtis and Tim Walz! Enjoy! Go To MintMobile.com/WellRED... to pay just 15 bucks a month on your phone bill! TraeCrowder.com WeLoveCorey.com DrewMorganComedy.com as promised, here's Corey's latest from The Atlanta Journal-Constitution!: Southern Values

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Starting point is 00:04:21 we are here we are here what's going on guys how much man I was impressed with Corey's fine print reading? Is that what the official name of that? I practiced it a lot. What's funny is we've run into that before in the past.
Starting point is 00:04:36 We've spent in draft kings ads or whatever. And it is, it is hard to do. You stumble over those words and shit. And it's like, when it's come up before, I've said things like, man,
Starting point is 00:04:45 I really an appreciation for that now and that type of thing. But then I listen to other podcasts and like almost every time they are just artificially sped up. Like, that's usually what people do. But like that never occurred to me or him. at all, I don't think, to do that. We were just like, remember FDS?
Starting point is 00:05:00 He's like just trying to do it naturally, like auctioneer style. And it's not, not in all what most people do. It sounds easier to me in my head, which is, this is probably stupid, to practice, get good at reading fast than it does to figure out how to like go into your podcast. Right. Speed up just that portion. Well, make sure it's recorded properly. and then get out of there. These people we're talking about
Starting point is 00:05:29 I ain't doing none of that shit. I'd say the people I'm the one, I guess I'm listening, you know, they got minions and shit. Like Dana Carvey ain't doing all that. Right. You know.
Starting point is 00:05:37 Nah, babe. Yeah. Do you ever find yourself because of Dana Carvey like re-loving Dennis Miller even more? Because like,
Starting point is 00:05:46 first of all, yes. And then, of course, he went, you know, kind of bady. But Dana Carvey does such a good impression of him and like they speak so highly of him
Starting point is 00:05:55 that I'm like, yeah, hell, having fucked with him. What are you going to do? That's exactly the same way I feel, except I was always kind of a bit of an apology to this room, because I know I've told you all before. Like Dennis Miller is one
Starting point is 00:06:06 of my dad's, like absolute favorites. Yeah. My dad loved Dennis Miller. I used to watch the Dennis Miller show that he had on HBO. I used to watch that with my dad at way too young of an age, as was custom for us, you know, normal. And they're talking about spades, sucking dicks and all this shit, you know. And they're a bridge. I'm seven,
Starting point is 00:06:24 you know, hitting for me. Anyway, so I always had a lot of love. And I'm, and I also think, I mean, I never explicitly thought about this way, but I feel like, you know, you can absolutely see a fair amount of Dennis Miller influence in the way that I be, the way that I am, meaning like, I'm a really verbose, pretentious, up my own ass. Yeah, use big words. Win small words to show off. Yes, all that, all that.
Starting point is 00:06:50 I think I got a lot of that from Dennis Miller as a kid. And so he always hit for me. and then, yeah, right. And he was one of them, there's been two seminal events in our life, I feel like, that made people snap. 9-11 was the first big one where some people just 9-11 broke them
Starting point is 00:07:07 and they never came back. And that happened again in COVID. And I feel like in COVID, like Joe Rogan was probably the most public. I respect the 9-11ers more. Right. They had less access to information, too. Like, they were going off just pure emotion. But, and also, I haven't, I don't think,
Starting point is 00:07:24 So 9-11 changed Dennis Miller. He became a Republican, but I don't think that he is like, I don't think he's full-blown MAGA or nothing. I don't either. I don't think. He's still that kind of like, you know, the sort of Republican that in 2006 I hated, but now I miss.
Starting point is 00:07:42 Long for. I long for, yeah, exactly. And I think he's that type. So he still hits me. Plus, if you ever hear him on like Dana and Spade's podcast now, his episode is great. of the best episodes I've ever done. He's so charming. He's so funny. He's so awesome. Still, yeah, dude, I fucking love Dennis Miller. I always have. I think he rules. Me too. I thought
Starting point is 00:08:04 I'd start off on a note that got all of our listeners so goddamn mad. I didn't really mean to do that, but it probably will. Yeah, I don't, again, I mean, he ain't been out here, you know, rabble-rousing lately, right? You know what I mean? Like, it ain't like, it ain't like, it ain't like we're talking about how hard Joe Rogan used to hit for us, although Joe Rogan did hit for me very hard for a long time. Right. I just go straight from Dennis Miller into, you know, glazing Joe Rogan for the next 10 minutes
Starting point is 00:08:29 just to piss people off. But, uh, yeah, but no. Quick a side. I just want to do this. We are not paid to do this by any means. He's just a friend of the show. We're all buddies with him. And I just wanted to quickly promote our buddy Tyler Mayhan Co.
Starting point is 00:08:43 Uh, his new book, Cocaine and Rhinestone's, A History of George Jones and Tammy Wynette is out right now. Illustrations by the very talented, Wayne White. Now, this is an adapt. It's an adaptation of season two of cocaine and rhinestones, but if you've already listened to it and they go already heard it, you know, whatever. By
Starting point is 00:09:03 adaptation, I mean, there's different stuff in here. Uh, so you can own a physical copy. Uh, it's like free. I mean, this is one of them like if you're going, by God, you won't tell people you read a fucking book. This is over 400 pages. So this would be the one to do it with in my opinion. You ain't got to read no Russian literature. You can read about Georgia. You can read about
Starting point is 00:09:21 George and Tammy for 400 page and go, you read a book? God damn it, I read a book. That's our buddy Tyler Mayhan Co. You can get it wherever books are gotten. And I can't wait to dive in. That's such a funny way to describe it. I think it's literally a bit on Wagon's East. Like the notion that you're like, now this book, look how thick it is.
Starting point is 00:09:41 That's a book right there. That'll impress people. It's like, you have a child, dog. You don't have to do that. Yeah. Yeah. You know what's funny. I was thinking about Wagon's East yesterday.
Starting point is 00:09:54 It's so funny. It's so underrated. I haven't seen it since I was a child. I think it was ahead of its time. Yeah, so I can't speak on that. But just like thinking about how the fact that like both those dudes are dead, you know, Lewis and Candy, but also the fact that like both,
Starting point is 00:10:13 that movie is so similar to the one that Matthew Perry also dead and Chris Farley also dead did together where they went. I can't remember that one. It was also the last movie Farley did, and that was the last movie John Candy did. And they were both about going out west. I can't remember the Farley one. No, I think I've conflated them in my mind
Starting point is 00:10:36 because I would have sworn to you Farley was in Wagon's East. No. That's John Candy. It's, oh my God. What is the name of it? Richard Lewis is Waggon East, right? Almost heroes. Almost Heroes is the Chris Farley.
Starting point is 00:10:52 Lewis is in Wagon's East. That's the one that I think is underrated. I'm not saying it. It was not. I don't think I've seen it or I don't remember. Neither were well received, but that's only because I think that like John Candy had come off of Uncle Buck and planes, trains, and automobiles.
Starting point is 00:11:07 And Chris Farley was on a tear with Tommy Boy and Black Sheep and all the stuff he was doing with Adam Sandler. But like, it is crazy. Number one, it's crazy that just all four of the main characters are dead. I think that's a testament just to how old we're getting. But the last two movies both them dudes did was like the same movie. That's crazy. That is kind of wild.
Starting point is 00:11:27 They also, and I think I brought this up on here, not all that long ago, but still it's directly relevant to what you're talking about. They also, along with John Belushi, each of those two guys at the time that they died or whatever had been developing or had been agreed to star in a fatty Arbuckle biopic. So there's just like fatty Arbuckle biopic
Starting point is 00:11:53 that originated with John Belushi in the 80s. Because I mean, we've talked about that story on here before. It's a wild-ass story. Free my N-word fatty. It makes sense that they'd want to make a movie about it. Well, they started it with Belushi in the 80s at the height of his powers. He died. That put it in development
Starting point is 00:12:09 hell. And then the same thing happened with John Candy and also Chris Farley. And I think it's been, you know. You think it's like a madden thing where nobody would want to take it on? I do think that it's being like a crush that shit. He absolutely would. You're right.
Starting point is 00:12:26 Jack Black's turned it down four times. Yeah, yeah. He's like, I got to live a little bit longer. He's ain't getting me on the fatty R buckle. That does sound like something that happens to your liver. Maybe I could play him and get to die at the same time. Like that'll be my star making performance and then I posthumously win an Oscar and don't have to live no more.
Starting point is 00:12:44 That is. That would rule. want you to like start pitching that though it's like yeah listen yeah i'll take one for the team why should i get this role i don't give a fuck because i want to die um i hope you do get the roll thank you thank you i think that the reason wagons east for me i think of the reason it was underrated in my opinion when it's a head of its time there was a it's a heavy dose of lewis and it's like Larry Davidy or herb or whatever. There's a lot of like whining.
Starting point is 00:13:18 There's a lot of cerebral. It's like they're trying to make a sort of a, man, a Woody Allen movie in the West. Not Woody Allen. Mel Brooks. Mel Brooks. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it just wasn't like it hadn't been long enough since Mel Brooks.
Starting point is 00:13:34 And you know what I mean? It wasn't quite a throwback. It looked like a weird thing. That's how I agree with you. 12 and loved it. But I think. all the 20-year-olds were like, this is lame because that's not what was going on in comedy right then.
Starting point is 00:13:45 You know what's funny is that I believe and agree with you, but you're going, I think it was too far ahead of its time, and then you go, it was kind of like they were doing a Mel Brooks thing. That's just how far ahead of his time Mel Brooks was. Well, I just feel like Larry David to Mel Brooks is a direct line.
Starting point is 00:14:01 And I think that there's a few people between them, but it's not a lot. I think that thing was a cycle, and it hadn't cycled back yet, in my opinion. I might be misdemeanor in the movie, but I just feel like it was very like it was heady and silly at the same time. You're not, you're not misremembering the movie at all. And when you, there is a heavy dose of Lewis in there.
Starting point is 00:14:21 And like when you, like as a kid not knowing that Richard Lewis and I mean, I didn't know that Richard Lewis and Larry David were best friends in real life until Kirby's enthusiasm. Like I assume they knew each other. But like, when you see Richard Lewis anything and then you see Larry David anything, it's like, yeah, it's no wonder. that these dudes like they were either going to be best friends or they were going to despise each other forever. Well, they actually, that is how to start. It's actually both.
Starting point is 00:14:48 It makes sense because, yeah, they have known each other since they were like fucking 12 years old and Jewish summer camp. They went to the same Jewish summer camp. But back then, initially, they did hate each other. Yeah. And only later grew to appreciate each other. That's a, I don't think we talked about it on here,
Starting point is 00:15:04 but we've definitely texted about it and stuff over the years. That's another thing that endlessly fat, maybe I did bring this up. I think maybe I did. Things like that where it's like the odds of any one given human being becoming like prominent or famous, any kind of famous.
Starting point is 00:15:22 And then you find out that they grew up with some other hitter and then like those two. It's like they're both in comedy but still they didn't come up through comedy together or nothing. When it's people that aren't doing the same thing, it blows your mind even more. That's even crazier. Right. Exactly. And it's like
Starting point is 00:15:37 and even when it's like, you know, like famous example from the world of sports Randy Moss and White Chocolate Jason Williams grew up together and what's wild about that is they grew up together in the middle of fucking nowhere in Westford's like a tiny ass hillbilly town in West Virginia or whatever
Starting point is 00:15:52 and so that makes that insane because I'm from a tiny ass town and we ain't had nobody even on a D1 level still wild but and I found this out like last year that tiny town
Starting point is 00:16:07 is actually a suburb of I want to say Morgantown, obviously there's no huge city in West Virginia. But when I found that out, it did disappoint me a little bit that, like, they went to a small school but a small school powerhouse like Alcoa. I mean, Alcoa was a two-way school for years, but it's ostensibly a Knoxville school that's had like four NFL prospects and countless D1 prospects. Your point's still well made.
Starting point is 00:16:36 I want to add, though, and I think Corey was about to bring it up, When it's sports or comedy, you can convince yourself, oh, Larry David probably gave Lewis a chance or vice versa. Like, they eventually helped each other. White chocolate and Randy Moss got eyes on each other. By being dominant in each sport, the scouts were coming, and they pushed each other. What the fuck's going on with Dan Soder? That, dude, I'm saying I never get over that.
Starting point is 00:17:04 You can't even, you can't do what I just did. What's his thing? up to people sometimes and they never react. I'm always like, no, no, no, do you not understand how fucking insane that is? And nobody ever, I'm so glad you brought up this example. I don't know the thing. Dan Soder grew up with his childhood best friends with Mike McDaniel, the head coach of the Miami Dolphins. Corey, best friend, not like to each other.
Starting point is 00:17:27 Joe, I have threaded this before. That doesn't mean anything. Yes, it does. It should. This is what Mark I'm at you for yesterday. Okay, but I don't, I don't fucking scroll through the whole goddamn thread. as I wake up, we are on a three-hour fucking difference. Sometimes y'all are talking
Starting point is 00:17:42 and I'm fucking asleep and sometimes I'm going on a rant and y'all are still fucking in bed. Jesus fucking Christ, it is crazy. Yes. Didn't you want someone to react this way when you fucking, okay, well you fucking got it, Tray? And you're mad. But late. I'm mad. I'm about to say
Starting point is 00:17:58 I'm mad because I have brought this up to you before and you did not react it all this way and so that's why I probably didn't fucking see it. Well, that's what I'm saying. But it seemed to me as though you were just like, well, whatever, that don't hit. Look at this I would have thought that hit. Raccoon being fat. You know, this is what I want to do.
Starting point is 00:18:13 Anyway, I think ESPN did a story on it recently, and I feel like they undersold it, dude. I feel like the story in ESPN was like, isn't this kind of weird? And it's like, no, this is mathematically. Insane. Uncomprehensible. Whereas again, the Randy Moss thing,
Starting point is 00:18:29 it's like maybe their parents saw they were good from across town and one of them moved so they could play with the other one. And at least it was sports, and they both, yeah, like you said, they had scouts looking at him, naturally they were like, I hit the hardest at my thing, you hit the hardest at your thing. It also is different when it's people, I mean, obviously, if you're talking Nepo babies, that don't even really count. But even people are like adjacent to, adjacent to have some kind of end, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:18:55 Like, and then, and their children, and that's, that makes it less wild. Well, with Soder and McDaniel both in each of the respective industries in comedy, and I think even wilder for McDaniel, because everybody knows the NFL's old boys. club or whatever. Right. There's 32 positions. Neither one of them had anything like that. They grew up in Aurora, Colorado. Like, they went to a, I've heard Soder talk about the high school team they play football on. They were awful. Like, they were not, they were like real bad. And McDaniel played on that team. He went to, he was very smart, went to Yale. He played football at Yale.
Starting point is 00:19:31 Obviously Yale's football program down hit, but still, I'm saying he. Is he a punter? No, he was a D-back, I think. Oh, really? But at, But, yeah, in the Ivy League. Right. Still. And Soder was a, you know, poor kid with a fucking drunken, absentee dad and a single mom and all that. Like, neither one of them did had any kind of position of privilege in either of these two incredibly difficult to penetrate industries.
Starting point is 00:19:57 They've been best friends since they were eight, nine years old. And now they're both at, well, Soder's not, Soder's underrated. He should be underrated. But he's still on, like, he's still on a Showtime show. I know. He does pretty good. Daniel is at the very top. I want to talk about it.
Starting point is 00:20:11 Oh, it's more impressive what Mike McDaniel did. I mean, Sore's like, God fucking damn it. I want to talk about the Showtime show and how Soder kind of started to break in because he did earn it because he did have help. But it was help he got by impressing the guy who gave him the help. So it's like totally self-creative. That's how you do it. But I think this is so wild. We've talked about this guy in here before.
Starting point is 00:20:32 I'm pretty sure because we talked about, didn't we talk about Fast Car and Tracy Chapman's story? where Brian Coppulman, who created billions, was a student at Tufts in Boston and saw her playing in, like, the student coffee shop, and his dad owned or ran a record imprint, like a major one, and he was like, dad, you have to sign her. And his dad was like, whatever.
Starting point is 00:20:56 And he goes, fuck you, I'm bringing you a dent. Like, he kept pushing his dad. His dad finally sign her. Now we all know the Tracy Chapman is. Right. Well, apparently Copplin has a fucking gift for this. Copplin for people who don't know, wrote Rounders,
Starting point is 00:21:08 billions. The reason Sotter's in billions, and part of the reason him and Schumer broke into the industry, now obviously the story I'm about to tell is just them doing well in New York, but Coppum wanted to write a movie about a comic, a script, he ended up never making it, but he started doing open mics in New York, not telling anyone who he was, what his deal was, and Soder and Schumer were nice to him and impressed him. He eventually told him who he was. Right.
Starting point is 00:21:34 Oh, holy shit. And then he helped them both. Man. Get agents, managers, et cetera, et cetera. And now to me, that is the definition of being self-made, but it is like that leg up. And then Cobbman wrote McPhee, his character in billions, for him. Right. It was like, you probably don't have a lot of range, but I think you can be this guy who's sweet.
Starting point is 00:21:58 But, like, it seems dumb, but it's clearly smart. And anyway, I just, I love all of that. Think about all the comics at that time that were in that same circle, who were probably just as good as soda in them, but were dicks to Coppelman because they were like this new fucking guy and how much they are kicking themselves. Oh, my God. Not that you should only be nice to people.
Starting point is 00:22:21 Doesn't a part of you wonder if one of them, Schumer, just like, knew something? I was like, oh, yeah. That guy looks familiar. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. But I mean, with Schumer, it's like, okay, now, not, I'm not saying that having Chuck Schumer's an uncle necessarily helps you in the world of comedy, but it's not. She claims that they barely even know each other. Is that true? Is that true? Like, I know that they are related, but she, she says that, like, yes, we're related, but we're not, we're not, like, I never ever saw him growing up. I wasn't going over to Uncle Chuck's house. I barely ever talked to the guy in my life. That's what she says.
Starting point is 00:22:57 I still want to agree with the Drew. Yes, Amy Schumer knew and was being absurd. super asshole about it and conniving and Soder didn't. For people who don't know, maybe Schumer doesn't have a great reputation and Dan Soder does, that's why we're doing this. But she did crush, as I recall, on Last Comic Standing, I think. Yeah, she did. Early in her career.
Starting point is 00:23:17 She's funny. Getting Last Comic Standing can happen because of who you know. Crushing on there is you. You can't fake it. I don't think. Well, we've talked about that a million times with Nepo Babies where it's like, you know, we've probably, said it to death, but like, yeah, don't get me wrong, it's unfair because you can get a leg up,
Starting point is 00:23:37 but like, you still do, for the most part, you still do got to bring it because like some showrunner, like if you fucking suck, some showrunner is not going to risk his show not hitting just because your uncle is so-and-so. You know what I mean? Like, you still do for the most part, you get like a shot, but if you stick around, it's because you hit. You know what I mean? But I think I made this point then and maybe I didn't. Maybe I know more. about how Hollywood works now. That's so true of Amy Schumer. Her name's on the goddamn show.
Starting point is 00:24:07 And then we hear about, like, you find out that, um, Spicoli shit, why is his name escape? Sean Penn. Sean Penn's dad was a producer. You're like, yeah, but Sean Penn's incredible. But I fully believe there are plenty of people. The daughter of the guy who owns the Steelers. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:24:24 Kate Mara and Rooney Mara. Their, um, their sister's sisters. But Kate Mara was the one from House of Cards, right? Right. Yes, those two sisters are. My point is she's serviceable. I'm not suggesting she's bad. I'm saying there's not a million people with that talent. I'm not saying there's no talent there.
Starting point is 00:24:43 I'm saying there's definitely a thousand. Yeah, but when have you said? Like, Sean Penn's incredible. These are just people who can say the line and look convincing. And that's a skill. But it's like, come on, dog. Sure, but like to my point, you're not probably going to see her in a Scorsese or a Quentin Tarantino movie. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:25:00 Like, all I've ever seen her in is like, stuff like i i really don't know i know that i've seen hearing something aside from house of cards i don't remember what it was right but when you miss out on a roll you really really really really wanted because of that yeah to the chick fillet owner's son yeah and he's not bad i'm gonna remind you you said this do you know what i mean because he's because if he's great you'll be like all right he earned it but when he's just there he didn't ruin it and that's all he accomplished i'm yeah that that is that is fair i will i will give you that i'm just saying like you know the people that we go that we are like god damn they hit real fucking hard i don't really give a shit that their dad was
Starting point is 00:25:44 so-and-so because it's like look they do hit real fucking hard you know what i mean exactly yeah i mean honestly i kind of i kind of dig it sometimes do you know what i mean like yeah when they actually bring it because they because it means that they were like i'm not i can't rest on my laurels A bunch of people pointed this out. I know Mark Marion says it all the time, but I wonder what y'all, we may have talked. We do talk about Nepo Babies a lot for sure, so maybe this came up before.
Starting point is 00:26:06 But a lot of people make the argument, you know, like, and I mean, I guess there's an easy answer. It's because the stakes are so much higher, the rewards are so much higher. It's so much more competitive. But, like, no one ever brings this up when it's like, you know, Wilson and son's funeral home.
Starting point is 00:26:22 Plumbing or funeral home or literally anything. That's literally our funeral home. Yeah. Oh, well, right. Yeah. So, like, like, and, Also, putting it in a historical context, that used to be literally, that used to be literally the only thing anyone on earth could ever do.
Starting point is 00:26:38 Right, right. Was you, your last name was determined based on what your family had been doing for generations. And you were born a Smith, you were going to be a goddamn Smith. And, dude, back in the day with theater acting, too, it was always an acting family. There was never just like some kid broke off. It was always, like, dude, Booth's dad was Junius Booth. like the best dramatist to collect. John Wilkes Booth and his fucking brother were both, I guess,
Starting point is 00:27:04 Nepo Babies. Yeah, but you got to, I got to push back in a couple ways. One, that's true of the Smiths. That was also true with the king back then. I mean, are we going to bring that back?
Starting point is 00:27:14 Like, that sucked. Yeah. Part of the reason we got away from that is because we were like, wait a minute, that's not fair. Also, when you work like construction, it's true that the talking heads aren't talking about the plumbers.
Starting point is 00:27:26 But buddy, when you're on that crew, and the boss's dad's now the boss, you goddamn right, they're mad about it. You got damn right, they're like, they don't say NEPO baby,
Starting point is 00:27:36 they say F slur. Yeah, right. It's absolutely the thing that has gotten to people. It's just a scale thing. I think, though, I get, like, your point's well made of,
Starting point is 00:27:46 like, it bothers people because, like, of fame, I think, and they're like, I think also a lot of people, this just is how it is, I think a lot of people just think almost anyone
Starting point is 00:27:55 can be an actor. Yeah. For sure. Yes, they do. they really do they're like you know it's all about getting you know getting lucky which it's
Starting point is 00:28:03 very much is obviously but they really do think anybody can just stand there and do the line so if your dad's so and so it's almost like as soon as you turned 18 you were guaranteed everything you were guaranteed a shot I think that's what bothers me well and by going back to the plumbing thing
Starting point is 00:28:20 you're right but I think it also does kind of still work the same way though meaning that like if that guy like treats people well and is good. Like he's competent and good at what he does. And he's not an asshole. He's not an entitled prick about it. He doesn't, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:28:35 He just treats everybody the same and acts like a regular dude. And also he's good at whatever the job is. I think people like get over it. I think when he first walks in it's like, oh, it's the boss's kid. God damn it. But then you can like earn people's respect. Then you're like, wow, it's clear that he paid attention to his dad. By being exactly. And loves the job. And I think it's the same principle really that applies to like famous nepo babies. It works the same way, I think.
Starting point is 00:29:00 You just accept with famous nepo babies, the whole world is privy to all of this. So there's a lot of people that are like, if you're just a nepo baby, it's going to be fuck you no matter what you do, right? I think you're completely right about the earned and respect thing, but I think there's a disconnect between the idea that a nebo baby sucks, but they still get to do it versus like what I personally feels
Starting point is 00:29:23 a much more reasonable complaint, which is like, hey, we tried very hard to get away from the world being set up this way for a reason. And this way, when I say that, what I mean is people just having things handed to them. And by things, I mean opportunities. Sure. Like, there's no doubt about it that Sean Penn's knocked it out of the park. I think it's just recognizing that a system in which producers' kids are getting all these auditions is going to create a situation where, people like us aren't getting auditions, I think it's totally reasonable and fair to be a little
Starting point is 00:30:01 mad about that. Yeah, I know. I mean, there's a difference. I know, I hear you. There's a difference in being mad. And plumbers, too. Like, you know, I worked this company for 40 years. You're just going to hand it to this kid.
Starting point is 00:30:12 I'm not mad at the kid, but this is bullshit. Right, right. I hear you. But on the other hand, it would be insane if when Sean Penn was a kid, they were just like, sorry, buddy, you don't get to act because. Your daddy's a producer. You know what I mean? And there's no fucking, but there's no other way around it.
Starting point is 00:30:30 Like, you know, uh, Denzel Washington's kid said, or like, you know, okay, actually, you know what? Let's use a better example because there'll be better fodder for it. Nicholas Cage changed his name from Nicholas Coppola to Nicholas Cage because he didn't want that upper hand. However, he didn't want to get called out for having that upper hand. Everybody knew who he was. That's what, well, yeah, that's what I'm talking about. And like, Denzel Washington's kid apparently, it's like, every time.
Starting point is 00:30:55 he went into an audition. He never told him he was Denzel Washington's kid and it's like first off motherfucker, your last name is Washington and everybody has seen your face. But like, you know, they were talking about like, I tried to do it the right way. And so, but then you hear people that like tried
Starting point is 00:31:10 to not have it affect them and you still go fuck them. You know what I mean? So it's like, there's no win. There's no win. And like, dude, I don't give a fuck when anybody says, Nicholas Cage is better than Francis Ford Coppola. By a fucking mile by a fucking mile
Starting point is 00:31:27 it's also it's not just been used to keep like class structures completely in place that bothers people in attempting to like get rid of it or critique it yeah I don't I think very few people are going to say like Nicholas Cage doesn't deserve to
Starting point is 00:31:43 get to audition for movies because that's stupid that it would be if somebody said that they would be a stupid person but I think like recognizing I mean literally the anti nepotism feeling inside of us and our culture literally has to do with hating kings and we need to keep that right we absolutely need to keep that i think tray's made the point before i don't know whether it's on here or not is like
Starting point is 00:32:04 if all of these people would just be like hey i had a huge i'm thankful to be here but i had a huge advantage like if they would just say it out loud so many people would be like we were talking about it on p oa because jack quade dennis quaid and man ryan's son who's one of the stars of the boys very very popular show on Amazon was asked about it. And his response was like, apparently his mom, Meg Ryan was asked to interview about it first and she got defensive on behalf of her child, which I, of course, understand. She was like, no, he's worked very hard. People don't know how hard my Jack has worked, you know, that type of thing.
Starting point is 00:32:40 So then he got asked about that. And he was like, well, listen, I love my mom. She's very sweet. But like, I mean, I am a Nepo baby. Like, there's no, of course I am. My parents. Like I've been, I've been incredibly advantaged and privileged. But, you know, I don't think.
Starting point is 00:32:55 think that necessarily undermines my talent. I still have to be good at the end of the day. But yeah, it would be assing out of me to deny those things. And when I saw that, I was like, I was like, this is just, that's all, I feel like that's all you got to do. Like, right? Just like, because he mostly got lauded for that response. I feel like if you just are that way about it, people will be cool with you.
Starting point is 00:33:14 But it's when people are like, and we had this exact same conversation. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But anyway, like when Bryce Dallas Howard, when Ron Howard's daughter, when she got mad about the whole Nepo baby stuff and was like, people had no. idea how many workshops I put together in my 20s and having all this stuff. When you do that, that pisses people to fuck for good reason.
Starting point is 00:33:33 And so I just think that's a huge part of it is how you react to the whole thing too. But it's not just nepo babies though. It's also just privilege in general. We've also talked about this before, but it's been like I remember one of the things I loved about
Starting point is 00:33:49 comedy and I think stand up is still closer than most things. But comedy in general, I was like I was like, it's a meritocracy. It really is so many things in this country are not, but comedy is a meritocracy. I thought that when I got into it. Then I got into that NBC writers workshop thing.
Starting point is 00:34:05 Yeah. And I started looking at as research before I went, I started looking into like all the people, producers, writers and everything of NBC's big shows, Tonight Show, SNL and all that. And almost every single goddamn one of them, I'm not saying they were nepo that they had parents in the industry, a lot of them did,
Starting point is 00:34:24 but they were like all like Ivy League privilege types, right? Who like stand up itself a little closer, but yeah, just like the writing world. And it was so discouraged. And then I got to the thing. And I loved the people that I was in that with. But I got to the thing itself too. And not all, most of the other people in my class, as I got to know them over the course of the, the workshop, I found that they had some kind of like some kind of connection to it.
Starting point is 00:34:53 Some of it just been like somebody's intern or whatever. Like there was a guy who went to Princeton and interned for some big NBC big wig, right? Like that type of shit. I was, they were, they all had some kind of story like that, not all of them, but a lot of them.
Starting point is 00:35:06 Did it make you feel like you hit real hard though? I mean, kind of, kind of, but it also was very, very discouraging too. Right. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:35:14 I was like, God damn, man, I didn't know. I very naively did not realize that our world was like this, but it totally is. and it's like every, every world is like that ultimately. And it does, it does suck.
Starting point is 00:35:27 I think that feeling is what people rage against, and I think it's fair to. I want to shout out Jamie Lee Curtis. She also got lauded for saying the same exact thing. And she said it like pretty bluntly. She's like, I'm a phenomenal actor, but I went to school with other phenomenal actors. And maybe they either didn't get the same auditions as me,
Starting point is 00:35:46 or maybe they had to go work because they were running out of money, and I recognize that every day. Yeah. And literally, everyone was sucking her dick just for saying a truthful thing while bragging about how much she rules and my god she she does hit oh unreal dude dude dude dude see that that one episode gives you chills yeah that that's the thing is like see she's done it the perfect way which is like explain everybody i had advantages they didn't i didn't have to worry about money when they did however she's also a
Starting point is 00:36:13 perfect example of like but you still got to bring it because in that episode which is called the seven fishes of the bear i i even if you're someone in my opinion who's like, I'm never going to watch a show like the bear. I think you could just watch that episode, like without watching the whole thing. It kind of stands alone. I think she's better in the only way her daughter's in labor. I think she's even better in that one. That one made the show because it was so wild.
Starting point is 00:36:39 I think just as far as what she's doing, it's a lot more subtle in the one where her daughter's having a baby, it was like almost disgusting that someone could be that good. It's some of the finest acting I've ever seen. seen in my life. It was almost as good of acting as Mint Mobile is good at being a wireless provider, guys, because you know, with big wireless providers, a lot of times what you see is never what you get somewhere between the store and your first month's bill, the price you thought you were paying. Well, like, where'd it go? Magically skyrocketed. You got all these fees and stuff with Mint Mobile. You'll never have to worry about gotchas ever again when Mint Mobile
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Starting point is 00:39:28 That's pretty good. Yay, baby. I think I was a little slow. You know what I mean? That was pretty good. Nah, you nailed it. But anyway, yeah, you know, it's just, I think that's something that you got to, that if you're not from a position of privilege, you're going to encounter at some point. along in your young adulthood, no matter what you're getting into, I think.
Starting point is 00:39:52 It's just the way of things, you know. And it, and, you know, it don't hit, but it is what it is. Yeah, I think that being from where we're from, but standing out in various ways that we did, I think it got in us, like, when we were young impressionable, like, no, man, like, if you hit, we'll get to do stuff. Be undeniable. As all I ever heard was be undeniable. true at some point in your life. And we were able to talent that day away for a while. Yeah. And maybe there are people more talented enough, talented than us who do, who are the exception, who are so exceptional. Well, Dan Soder.
Starting point is 00:40:36 Yeah. And Jamie Lee Curtis. Michael Daniel. McDaniel. I knew he replaced Flores. I think because I'm racist and he has dark hair, I think he's florist because he's the coach of Miami and he has black hair. He looks like a Flores. He looks like a Flores. I'll give you that. But he's McDaniel. Yeah. He looks more like a Flores than a McDaniel.
Starting point is 00:40:53 I'll give you that. I don't know. He looks pretty nerdy in my opinion. McDaniel's not nerdy to me because my baddest-ass high school coach was Steve McDaniel. And he was. When I think of McDaniel, I think of like a fucking Mick that will just like run through a goddamn brick wall. I mean, I guess that's just a totally fair. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:41:12 I've just never. I've always looked at Mike McDaniel and been like, yeah, he looks the way he or. or is the way he or be or whatever. I've never thought like, he don't seem like I'm at McDaniel is all I'm saying. But now that you say that, I mean, yeah, it does check out. Mike McDaniel, and again, that's just personal. Like, when I hear McDaniel, I think of Steve McDaniel, who, like, at 60 years old, I saw repping out 275 on the bench with his legs up and calling us all fucking queers.
Starting point is 00:41:38 And by the way, we were being queers. Mm-hmm. Yeah, for sure. Judge Dixon in a locker room. Hell yeah, I do. Uh, I also, I don't, I don't think of the. previous as coach's last name wasn't Flores and he wasn't in Miami
Starting point is 00:41:52 that my brain would do that at all I'm just like I go the coach of the Miami Dolphins Flores and I see McDaniel's face and I go yep that's him. Dude speaking of which it's football time baby like it is it is here it was look let me say this let me say this first off
Starting point is 00:42:10 fuck Georgia Tech been saying it my whole life we George Bulldogs we even got a whole song about it however I do have some like we don't say it anymore because they suck. Yeah, right. Right. There's no reason.
Starting point is 00:42:20 There's no reason for me to hate them anymore. You know what I mean? Because it's like... Nothing worse than that. They won't even sing their song for you. Yeah. It's like, it's the Don, it's the Don Draper thing where he, with the kid gives him what fur in the fucking in the elevator.
Starting point is 00:42:35 And he's just like, I don't even know who you are. That's how we are with Georgia Tech now. But anyways, um, I have a, I have several buddies who were like all the sudden Florida State fans. So that was sweet. What has Florida State done to get a bandwagon recently? Well, I think some of them were Florida State fans, and then they just kind of stopped even acknowledging it.
Starting point is 00:42:58 And then Florida State has showed some promise in the past couple years. You know, like they hit last year. Florida State was like a cool team to like in the late 90s and 2000s and stuff for sure. And then they dropped off. There was fans of Florida State and Salina who had no connection to, you know, Florida or any of that at all. Right. And there were people like that.
Starting point is 00:43:22 And also just a lot of my people that I know, when I say friends, I don't necessarily mean people around here. I mean buddies I've met through wrestling and stuff. But like it was, and I know, and by the way, two of those dudes who I'm talking about flew their ass to Ireland. Oh, wow. Do what's the game? I fucking loved every second of it.
Starting point is 00:43:43 I just thought it was so raven and comical, you know, but I don't like, I don't really. you know, we won our last championship all of them many years ago off of Florida State. Actually, there you go. I had a guy who was an assistant coach. He showed me the ring, assistant coach on Florida State's team at my show this weekend. No shit.
Starting point is 00:44:04 Midwest somewhere, yeah. He's a high school football. He's a high school football coach now and like likes us. So, you know, he's, yeah, so clearly it don't hit. Yeah, they can't be that good. If he's listening to us, he likes us, they got to be pretty sure. shitty as a team. Yeah. I was about to say if he wasn't a fan of us, he'd be in
Starting point is 00:44:21 a big time coaching carousel. Tim Walts. Changing the stereotype, man. I know. He's a Tim Walts type. I heard him talking about gutters today and I was like, I couldn't stop listening. Normally any, like listen, even if, you know, this is the thing I think about with politicians, like, with
Starting point is 00:44:37 the Trump people, like they buy merch and shit like that, like, when everybody was like, what do you make, like, why don't nobody have no Biden hats? And it's because we don't idolize these motherfuckers. We don't you know, have merch or whatever. Tim Waltz is like the first one and he's not even, he's the VP where I'm like,
Starting point is 00:44:53 I actually do want to hear more from this guy. And like, I actually am. Now, I'm not buying a fucking Tim Walt's shirt or nothing like that. But he's the first one in a very long time that I'm like, no, I want to hear what this guy has to say.
Starting point is 00:45:06 And yes, I would absolutely like to have a beer with this dude. Yeah. So anyway, all I was going to say is Florida is the only thing I want to ask you about Corey, but because again, we won our last championship off Florida State. I don't have any real hatred before the State.
Starting point is 00:45:20 Plus Florida State hates Florida, and that hits for me. Enemy and my enemy. Right. So, like, I don't like Florida State, but I don't hate or dislike them either. I don't either. But I still thought that it was fucking hilarious what happened in Ireland just because of, because there's also added context to it. If you're college football fans, you know, they're like, they're like suing that,
Starting point is 00:45:43 but Florida State is like suing to get out of the ACC because they're like, We hit too hard. We hit too hard. We hit too hard to be in this conference. And so for them to then do that in week zero, it's just very, very funny. Like objectively speaking, if you're not a fan of Florida, even if you are a fan of Florida State, you've got to acknowledge the humor in it. It's great.
Starting point is 00:46:03 Yeah, it's great. And like, no, I have no reason to hate Florida State. Like, we're not in the same conference and also, again, enemy of my enemy. But yeah, the whole ravenry of like how they've been kind of acting the past year. And then for it to happen, not only for it to happen, but for it to happen against fucking Georgia Tech all the way over there, it's great. And speaking of that, on that same little wrestling show I do where that dude kind of hangs out, we've also got a Texas fan who was in there fucking hooking them horns and talking about how like he's like,
Starting point is 00:46:30 yeah, boy, I tell you what, y'all ain't ready for our shit. We're about to come to the SEC and show y'all motherfuckers what football's about. And I was like, you dumb motherfucker, y'all can't even watch our shots. Do what? Have you seen their schedule this year, though? No. They're not playing an SEC schedule? They are, but it's one of the easiest in the SEC.
Starting point is 00:46:52 The hard games they have on paper. I can't say nothing about that. Georgia has played very easy schedules the past couple years. The hard, yeah, we all be to Alabama. The hard games they have on paper are Georgia, which, okay, there's one L. Oklahoma, which is hard, but like, they didn't have to play them. They have to play them. They have to play them.
Starting point is 00:47:09 Right, right. And then I swear, I think the third best highest ranked team is, I won, to say A&M. Does that make sense? I mean, probably. They're big rivals with A&M. And I was wondering if they were, I'm not sure they would try to maintain that. Yeah, and the SEC, that would make sense. Yeah, I don't know, dude.
Starting point is 00:47:28 Like, I get Corey saying all that because Georgia is the new Alabama now. So I, like, understand. But I don't think Alabama's going anywhere. I don't think the SEC, look, it pains me to say, like, it's still very top-heavy. No, y'all are good. You're still absolutely crush. but like, like, I think the modern, the current day iteration of the SEC,
Starting point is 00:47:50 I think Texas can fuck with it. Like, I don't think they... I don't know. I disagree. You're thinking of last year and not the seven years before that. We're supposed to not let logic make any of our thoughts or statements when it comes to the SEC.
Starting point is 00:48:08 We are the best goddamn conference. We will always be the best goddamn conference. Well, that's still true. like okay you're also tray you're based in on Texas last year which is fair it's the most recent iteration they got harsh right they still got ewers don't they coming back yeah they do no they're good i'm so i'm not saying that they're not going to be good this year what i'm saying is texas as uh with with the current coach and all that they've been fine until last year they they weren't that good they were overrated early every year and then they get beat by like
Starting point is 00:48:36 kansas or some yeah now they had a kind of they had a sort of tennessee thing going for a while there where it's like, I mean, it was like a running joke every year. Like Texas is back. Like when they would lose, you know, be like, oh, look how back Texas is. Because every year their fans would be like, you know, it's like, SEC fans would say about us. It's like, and USC fans. Every Valls fan motto is, you know, next year or whatever.
Starting point is 00:48:59 Like, it was the same type of thing with them and Michigan. And now Michigan's the reigning champs, but Michigan was like that too for a long time. Nebraska is the current king of that. I think USC fell off and. But let me ask you. Let me ask you both. If that's the reputation Texas is trying to shirk, you think they're going to do it now in the SEC?
Starting point is 00:49:21 Is that what you're arguing? I'm not arguing that. I'm on your team. I don't know. I'm looking at their schedule right now. I mean, yeah, they also play Michigan, but, you know, Michigan lost hardball, and I don't know who all else.
Starting point is 00:49:33 They play Georgia, Michigan, Texas A&M, Oklahoma. You know, it's not a, it's not particularly worse of a schedule than a, lot of SEC teams. Three losses. Huh? Me? They're going to have three losses. Oh.
Starting point is 00:49:49 Yeah. And I should be embarrassed. The playoff is expanded. The playoff is expanded now, too. Yeah. I'm not trying to defend Texas. I just don't feel like shit talking as a Tennessee fan, I guess. Like, that's why I opened this by saying I get why Corey does it.
Starting point is 00:50:05 But like, I feel, I'm just, I don't have that kind of confidence at all. But I'm not trying to Georgia schedule. Texas is football. team. I'm trying to shit talk these people who are Texas fans being like, we're going to come to the SEC and show you all how to do it. And I'm like, and if you do, every head will bow, every tongue will profess. But until that moment, you better be careful, dog.
Starting point is 00:50:26 Because y'all lose one or two games a year playing against Oklahoma and Kansas. I'm not shit talking as much as I'm saying, I don't buy it until I see it. This is the SEC. When we were undefeated, I didn't buy it. And then we lost Georgia. It's like, yeah, but that's only one loss. I was like, n'n't-uh. Y'all don't even know how hard this league is.
Starting point is 00:50:46 Well, yeah, I agree with that. As I said a million times, when we won the first one, I was at Trey's Place when we won the first one, I said, I'll be good forever. It won't matter to me anymore. And I meant that. And then we got two, and I was like, double, it goes double now.
Starting point is 00:51:01 Like, we could suck forever and I'd still be, you know, fucking whatever. But obviously, yes, I'm in a position to be more jazzed and a little bit more rah, rah, rah. but I'm not coming at this from a Georgia hit so hard position. I'm coming at this from a fuck Texas. Who the fuck do you think you are position? Because frankly, I don't think Alabama is just going to all the sudden. Like I think Michigan will stop hitting because hardball's gone.
Starting point is 00:51:28 I think they will stop hitting. I do not think Alabama will stop hitting just because Saban's gone. Because God clearly loves the Crimson Tide. Yes. No, I know. I feel the exact same way. As soon as I got, as soon as I, like, looked, I knew who Kailen DeBore was because of Washington's big year, but as soon as I looked him up and saw that his lifetime coaching record at every level he's been at from high school,
Starting point is 00:51:53 up through college and to eventually now the SEC, his lifetime coaching record is something like 132 and 11 or something. As soon as I saw that, I was like, these motherfuckers. And we got to play them this year, like during the season, which really don't hit for me. a bummer. It is a bummer. That don't hit having to play Alabama. That's true. We play all in them every year and we're not in every year.
Starting point is 00:52:18 And before y'all hit, it was them in Florida every year. We always have to play the two hitting his teams in the SEC ever got that year. Well, Florida don't hit anymore, but that game is. And then when LSU's good, we somehow get them on our rotational year. Or they beat us in the SEC championship when Rohan Davy has one leg and we don't get a go to the national title game. I don't get me started on LSU and Georgia in the SEC championship. I'll jump off a fucking building.
Starting point is 00:52:39 I have to go. I have to go pick up my son soon. I want to plug real quick something. First of all, it's my birthday this weekend. I'm going to turn 40. Oh, you are turning 40. This is what I want. I wanted that.
Starting point is 00:52:55 That was the one thing I wanted. I have a don't tell comedy special, mini special coming out September 9th. Okay, that's a week from the day after my birthday. It's two days before September 11th, so don't forget. Hell yeah. And I just want everyone to, you know, follow me on all the stuff that you probably already follow me on. But if you don't, go follow me on Instagram, Drew Morgan, follow me on YouTube, Drew Morgan.
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Starting point is 00:53:44 And when you see my face on there, just be nice in the comments. That's it. Also, I got Raleigh, September 15th. Coming up, I got Asheville, Chattanooga, Atlanta, somewhere in Florida. I got to go. It's funny. Drew's going to be in Chattanooga. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:54:03 Do you think he's sleeping on my parents' porch? I don't know. Has he done that before without even telling you? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's funny. One time I can't, I was somewhere.
Starting point is 00:54:15 I was somewhere and mom was like, did you know Drew was in town? And I was like, I think maybe. And she's like, well, he's in our guest room taking a nap right now. Yeah. Pretty raving. So yeah. Yeah, man. You're, I mean, I know it's not necessarily time for us to start plugging.
Starting point is 00:54:31 And no, let's do. What else is, what else is going on? What else is going on, show? As I was talking about. I was talking, I kind of wanted to talk about a little bit about not necessarily Tim Walts, but, well, yeah, Tim Walts and just, oh, I wanted to bring up something to you that I thought was interesting, Trey. This, surely we can cover all this in nine minutes. I have like, I've, you know my, I mean, I feel like everybody who follows me and knows me, no, no, or is a fan of mine at least, knows the deal about who I am. I am a progressive person from the South. Like that is like much like you, that is kind of our fucking thing. It's one of the reasons why I am now a, the contributing humorist opinion columnist for the Atlanta Journal Constitution.
Starting point is 00:55:24 And that has a lot to do with this story. I've posted so many things of like, fuck Trump. You know, we got got to vote. If you're not voting for somebody, at least vote against him, right? Ain't had word one said to me. ain't had work online in the comments they've all been like hell yeah core we're with you bro i mean there would be the occasional fucking you know trump 2024 all like obviously the hate from the right has been consistent right but only until the other day when i posted um i they
Starting point is 00:55:52 they the atlanta journal constitution asked me to be a part of a thing that was like uh contributors react to kamala's acceptance speech like it was going to be like a compilation of all the contributors. So I was like, yeah, I'll write, you know, 400 words or whatever. So I did, and I shared the post, right? But on Instagram, what's funny is I just shared an excerpt from it, which was me talking about how hard the Dixie Chicks hit for me. Like, that was it. And underneath it, for the first time in my career, I am now being called someone who supports genocide, a genocider, like all this type of shit. And I'm like, it would be one thing if like that had just been happening this whole time. But like all the sudden, I write one thing that's like just
Starting point is 00:56:39 discussing Kamala's fucking acceptance speech. And now they're like, sorry, I got to unfollow you. I didn't realize that you were into genocide. And I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on a second. Hold on a second. Who the fuck did you think I was voting for? You know what I mean? Like, what the fuck are you talking about? No, yeah. First of all, it's, he'll never hear it because he'll never know. but it's kind of raving we brought this up right as Drew leaves. Right. Because this all goes back to Palestine and guys and all that, and Drew has very strong opinions on it.
Starting point is 00:57:09 I've had two revelatory or two kind of big realizations in the past months or so during like the end of Biden and the beginning of the Harris campaign and all that. And I've realized that I do think it doesn't fit with what you're saying. That's why I'm wondering if those people have found you from AJC or something like that. But because some of them were literally saying, I followed you for your as fuck you. I have found that, like, my base, and it's funny, you know, you go to my shows, you see how most people are older, there's not a lot of young college kids, that type of thing, to put it mildly. I think that I've cultivated without ever meaning to her thinking about, because I think that I'm pretty damn lefty-ish.
Starting point is 00:57:46 I think I've cultivated a fairly moderate following, really. Yeah, maybe me too. Because I ain't really been getting none of that. Like, I've been really glazed, especially Tim Walls, but just the campaign, the Democrats in general, I've been. really, you know, really fucking, you know, fire and horn off, like being excited about it. And nobody's got. The only time I made people mad is when I said Joe Biden should step down. And that was a, and that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:58:12 And turns out now everybody would think you were a fucking genius. Well, no, a lot of them still don't admit it. But what I'm saying is like the kid, if I had kids, if I had the like college protesting, free Palestine type kids in my fan base, if I had of a bunch of them, they would have celebrated the shit out of that Joe Biden video that I made saying he needs to step down. instead people hated it and got very upset with me because that's apparently not with my fan base is which hits for me because I'm so glad that I'm not having to deal with that or being demanded to like take a position on that or that type of thing because I
Starting point is 00:58:46 I just don't I it's the people the far left and like the young kids you know it's like I know they're like you know whatever condemning genocide is not a far left position a human it's like I condemn genocide too just I don't have I don't hit. We've said it many times. It's on the list. It's just that I happen to, and I know how condescending it's going to sound, I can't help it. I happen to understand how the political situation, electoral process, work in this country, which means whether you like it or not, there are two viable options. Right. And it's going to be such a coin flip that if you don't vote for to one, you are kind of, especially depending on what state you're in, tacitly supporting the other one. And if you don't realize that as much as you, you hate the Biden-Harris administration for them supporting Israel, if you somehow do not realize that Trump will be a million times worse for Palestine. It's the thing that they agree on the most, honestly. I just, I don't know what to tell these people. And they're like, they're like, you know what, it's not on me, a candidate is supposed to appeal to the voter. It's not on me
Starting point is 00:59:52 to bail them out or whatever. And it's like, no, but you're contributing directly to a possible Trump victory, in which case this cause that you care so dearly for. will get a million times worse. They don't admit that, but I'm like, it's like the quote from the wire. It's like, you want it to be one way,
Starting point is 01:00:09 but it really is the other way. I don't care if you don't see it that way. That is the way that it is. Right. So I don't, they get mad at me all the fuck. They won't. Because again,
Starting point is 01:00:20 it don't hear from me what Israel's doing. None that shit hits for me. Me either. Yeah, I'm still voting for Congress. And I'll be public about it. I'll stump for them. I'll do all that shit that I've already been doing because that's how important I think it is that Donald Trump loses.
Starting point is 01:00:35 Regardless of how they feel about the whole Palestine situation, which again, I agree is terrible. But it's just every single fucking election, we end up with a contingent of people on the left who be doing this. It was like Bernie Bros and shit in 2016. And then some of them again, and when Biden got won the nomination. And it's like, I voted for Bernie both times,
Starting point is 01:00:59 but still both those times. I was like, look, y'all, I hear you, but you can't do this. You cannot do this. And like, now this year is one thing. And the primary is one thing, dude. How primary is totally different. You absolutely can do that in the primary. But like in the general, and it's how I felt for eight years.
Starting point is 01:01:16 And again, every single election, it happens again. There's people on the far, because this is what the left be doing. The left can't help but just tear it, cannibalize itself. Right. And just shoot itself in the goddamn foot. The left cannot and may never, you. unify in this fucking country. And that's what drives me the craziest about it.
Starting point is 01:01:34 Because it's like, again, I would get into such a visceral argument with one of, with one of these college kid protester types over this if they were on this podcast right now. But me and that person agree on almost everything, including the issue that they care so much about. Right. You know what I mean? Like philosophically, I'm with you on that. I'm with you on all that.
Starting point is 01:01:50 Can we not just like come together and try to fucking figure it all out, move forward instead of just self-sabotaging? Right. Yeah. I mean, I know. it happened to you specifically recently, but obviously, as you could tell, this shit's been annoying me for a long time,
Starting point is 01:02:04 even though I'm knock on wood so far, not personally dealing with too much of it. Most of my people seem to be on the same page as me, thankfully, but from afar, it's driving me insane. I'm not going to comment. Obviously, I'm not going to comment back individually to them,
Starting point is 01:02:19 but if in case any of y'all are listening, I would say that, and Mark pointed this out to me, and I'm like, that's probably correct. A lot of you who are saying that are probably comfortably, in a blue state that is going to go blue no matter what. Therefore, you could just not vote or you could sit it out and you could vote third party. And at the end, Kamala will still win your state, which
Starting point is 01:02:39 you still prefer over Trump. Don't fucking bullshit me. But you can say that you didn't participate in it. Whereas I'm sorry, but now that I live in a purple state, Georgia, my fucking vote actually matters. So I can't just do that. But see, that's also, that that, that, that's true, but that, that, those people, those hypothetical people who do exist, they're in a real privileged position with that. Right. Right. And I'm not. They have the luxury of being able to do that and maintain their integrity, which means they can then look down their nose
Starting point is 01:03:07 at you when you're not in the same position they are. Of course not. That's fucking, that's bullshit. Because they don't, even though that makes sense, that ain't how they ought to be. Like, they shouldn't take advantage of that because it, because it ain't fucking fair. Like, dude, if I don't go vote, like, let's say hypothetically
Starting point is 01:03:23 I don't vote. And Kamala Harris loses Georgia by 0.001. I'm going to be like, fuck, that was me. You know what I mean? Whereas like if you're in fucking, you know, Vermont or California, you can ride in fucking whoever you want. It's fine. Anyways, God damn.
Starting point is 01:03:40 I'm glad I got that off my chest. Where you been to be, Tray? If I still here for you, come see me on the road. I'll be in San Antonio next weekend. And then Ohio, I think after that, and there's a bunch of places, a whole bunch of places. Go to Trey Crowder.com. Check them out.
Starting point is 01:03:54 Come see me. Hey, go to we lovecori.com. That's where I do all my bonus stuff. I just, as you're listening to this, I've already put out a post where I read the news, but barely. I kind of just read the headlines and I try to like postulate. Postulate? Is that a word? Postulate, yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:14 On what the story might be. Yes, but I don't be reading it. So we just did that at we lovecori.com. Also, I'm working on an essay to put up there because I'm. I'm writing for the Atlanta Journal Constitution. They get a lot of my stuff, but I'm still doing essays that they probably wouldn't dig, and all of those live at we love Corey.com. So subscribe right now.
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Starting point is 01:05:05 Good night and skew. Fart. Fart.

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