wellRED podcast - #406 - Diddy Do It?
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Drew, you said you just woke up.
Does that mean like you had a bad night last night?
Are you living that nap life?
You're on the baby nap life?
Oh, I had a nap.
It's not a baby nap life, though.
He's at my mom's.
Hmm.
I'm on that baby nap life.
It's very sweet.
You've been napping with him, you mean?
Yeah, you know, I've never been able to do that on account of anxiety.
Like, I've never been able to just, like, sleep during the day.
But what happens is I'll be on the couch and he'll fall asleep on me, and I can't move because, like, that will wake him up.
So it, like, gives me permission to be like, well, what else would I do?
And then I just, I go to sleep, and it's fucking awesome.
It's great.
Yeah, that hits.
It does hit.
Do you sleep well when he's on you, though?
Yeah.
I sleep better.
Honestly, it's the best I ever sleep.
I feel so like this is going to sound gay, but like I feel very secure and safe and like, I don't know.
Like, just having his little heartbeat on me.
I just feel like, hey, all is right in the world in this moment.
I got my son with me.
What the fuck else do I need?
I'm good.
And yeah, I can sleep.
I can't sleep with my wife, you know.
Yeah.
I think for me, when he's on me, I don't sleep very deeply because it's like if I'm holding him, like if my arm falls, he's going to wake up, you know.
Yeah.
Yeah, I hear you.
Yeah, no, I do.
It's the only time I can sleep.
Only time I'm really happy, honestly.
Or even just like semi-glad.
It's only time I have any type of joy or smile.
Well, that's when he's not awake.
Well, no, just when I'm with him exclusively.
It was just me and him.
You know what I mean?
That's it for me.
I like him.
Everybody else.
Yeah.
Whatever.
50, 50 at best.
Yeah.
I want to ask you about something and it's a, I think I think it'll hit for y'all
because it's like it's misogynistic, but in a way that I think it's fine.
Yeah.
Oh, shit.
Damn.
Okay.
Well, now I don't even want to.
I meant to give you a fucking applause.
I meant to give you applause, but it's right by the crickets.
Yeah.
Anyway.
computers a feminist because so you know is a new story recently there's rumors that
Trump is pork and Laura Loomer at least you know she's that dabbling in his you know
dribbling on his mushroom or something right no suck as weiner sucking his wiener uh yeah
who's grosser yeah uh she is so yeah but how do I mean it that's like that's like the air
conditioner question you turn it down or up what's that mean
Well, I think here's the deal.
Who's being a grosser person?
She is.
She is.
She is.
But she's also grosser than him.
Yeah, but she's still, she's 31.
If you're 78 and you let a 31 year old suck your dick, the 31 year old's being grosser.
Kind of no matter what.
First time ever, I'm going to be on the side of the holds.
I think until I saw Laura Lumer, I would have been.
been like, yeah, the 71-year-old every time.
Right.
Yeah, because there's something, I've been struggling actually later.
We'll get into it at some point.
I don't know.
I'll let Trey finish.
I've been struggling with, like, tech, just really freaking me out, weirding me out, bothering me.
You mean, seeing her and thinking she's not real?
Her face ain't real, dog, and it makes me tense.
That's actually, I mean, that's actually the specific thing I wanted to bring up.
That's why I said it's like a little misogynist because it's all about just like women's faces.
But women who don't.
doing this.
Women who don't hit this.
By the way,
Trey,
because when I filled in
for you on skews,
on Trace,
Patreon, by the way,
Patreon.com slash
Trey Crowder.
You might want to
sign up now because I'm on there.
I attempted
to shit talk
Laura Lumer and
Mark was like,
he cut me off
before I went down
a misogynistic path,
which I was definitely
going to go down,
but I was like,
no, hold on now.
I think that I'm trying
to be less misogynistic
and I believe I should be
able to take out all that shit
on a bitch like
Laura Lumer.
Me too.
That's definitely my position on it, too, is it's like, you should, or not just say bitch or cunt or nothing like that.
Yeah, but like, if Roger Taylor Green ain't a bitch or Laura Lumerate a bitch, then, you know what I mean?
Yeah.
It's like, hold on.
I'm against a wall.
You know what I mean?
I just want to make sure I understand what we're doing.
I'm all for calling Laura Lumer or a cunt.
I want that on the record.
Yeah.
Write it down.
Somebody get a tattoo.
The whole thing about, like, commenting on people's bodies and faces.
First of all, I got shit when I made fun.
at Elon's weird body.
It was like,
don't body shame.
Elon won't see this.
Yeah.
Elon won't see this,
but people with weird bodies will.
And I was like,
well,
that's a weird way to say.
Work out different.
But,
um,
Laura Lumer,
I think chose to look like that.
That's,
well,
see,
that's what she definitely did.
Still trying to get there.
Yeah,
because that these,
we're,
we're trying and try right now.
I feel,
yes,
I feel that a lot of the high level
mega crazies,
women's, they have a similar kind of like
half-melted Stepford wife thing going on.
It's like they're like crazy-eyed and plastic-faced
in a similar way.
Like they've had some of the same procedures done.
And it's like their head also doesn't have it.
Like her.
That's symmetrical.
You know, NTG, Christy G.
Like, you know, if you look at like old pictures of them versus pictures of them now,
they've clearly done shit to their face.
So yesterday it's like they,
and it's like they don't just choose to change.
their face, they choose to change it.
And I think they're, they all have the same end goal in mind.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
It's like, it's this like 50s housewife thing or something.
I don't know.
But like, they have a permanent like this.
Yes.
Right.
That's Botox though, I think.
Yeah.
But they got Botox lip fillers.
All that shit.
They just do a bunch of stuff and it makes them look wild.
Now, I will say, I feel no, you know, need to defend Laura Lumer about anything.
But there is one picture.
of her face that's been going around
that people have been like, look at this bitch's face.
That was, it's like,
she still is wild looking, but
that one picture is like
digitally altered.
Oh, I didn't know that. I know the pictures.
Is it the one where she looks like Jigsaw?
Yes.
She still kind of does.
She still looks wild, but that
particular picture, that's not
entirely how she looks. I think I
got dup by that one.
Well, I think that's what Mark showed me,
because Mark showed me this picture, and I
believe my exact quote was that's what that bitch looks like and he was like whoa whoa whoa whoa hold on buddy
with the skeers here they're sitting you're fucking putting on airs where you can just talk about women however
which way you want and i was like that ain't a woman dog that is proof that gender is a fucking
spectrum that is a lion you know what i mean like she looks like the beast from the original live
action adaptation of beauty and the beast yeah but it's just kind of an interesting question though
about like about all that you know it's like she obviously sucks she's like hey
Shame.
Racist and awful.
You know, so does that make it okay to call her a bitch or to shit on her face or any of that stuff?
And I would like to say and feel that it does, you know.
I mean, look, man, for it for me, to sit here and say this is, this is how you should talk about women and this is definitely how women feel about a thing.
But, I mean, there ain't one here to give a counterpoint, so whatever.
Oh, now, I'm a man. Cool.
I'm saying, like, I'm saying like, if you were, if you're someone who is.
was just like, all women are bitches.
That's a wrong way to use that word.
But insinuating that there is no such thing as a woman who is a bit insane to me.
It's a bit insane.
Sounds like I'm something a bitch would say.
I'm saying, well, I was doing this bit about Amber.
Like, it was specifically about Amber.
Like, I even called her by name.
Like, I just, bitch wife.
Yeah.
But no, no, no, no, no.
That's my point is that I was talking about Amber, said my Amber's name, never caught her bitch, whatever.
And I had like multiple women come to me after them.
they were like, I just don't like how you generalize women and say, and I was like, I wasn't.
I was saying that Amber did this.
You know what I mean?
I was like, every woman's like that.
But I didn't say, but yeah, they are.
They are.
But I was like, I was like, I did.
I was like, I'm not generalizing women saying my wife did this thing.
And like if you, you know, whatever, but I didn't say, you know how women be.
I was like, my wife fucking did, you know, this thing.
And I was like, dude.
I'm trying to parse the question.
Corey, I don't know what to tell you, dude.
Like, stop.
calling these women bitches, dude.
These bitches ain't going to take it.
What women?
Laura Lumer?
I can call Laura Lumer a bitch.
Keep coming up to you after the show.
They're not going to take it anymore.
My question,
my question is basically just like,
does it,
like,
is it okay to go in on a terrible woman
in terms of language
that can also be directed towards
a totally fine woman who don't deserve it?
But this bitch does,
so that make a difference.
Right.
Because who?
Because the world?
I don't know.
I mean, there's definitely like, there's definitely a faction of people who are like,
cunt is a slur.
Yeah.
And then I think two things happened or three at the same time where like Marjorie
Taylor Green existed.
Right.
I do think, I do think social media got Americans used to the word because we started
having British and Australian people on our feet saying it all the time.
Right.
So it's like, it just depends on who.
who you're asking, I think.
I think there's definitely people out there who are like,
you shouldn't call women bitches.
Like, what if your son hears you do that or, you know,
et cetera, et cetera.
Then there's other people out there.
Dude, I call women bitches all the time because I'm a millennial who listens to
rap.
Right.
Like my friends.
Right.
Like, I have a pretty solid core group of friends who are women.
And I'll be like, what the fuck are you bitches doing?
We're late.
And they don't mind it at all.
So it's like, it's hard to answer your,
if you mean like the woke,
mindset, probably not okay.
Are you going to be able to get away with it because of who it is?
Yes.
Does that make a lot of them hypocrites?
100%.
Do I think it's okay that they're hypocrites?
Abs of fucking lugley.
Because we're all going to die and she's a dumb cunt.
And those are just two facts that I cannot get around one way or the other.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, again, I agree with you that the word cunt is definitely like, it's less offensive
now than it was when even 10, 15 years ago, probably like you said, because of the internet.
Because like, dude, now even 10, 15 years ago, it was still 100% my wife and my sister's
favorite word. Like, so it really just depends on. Didn't it just get slangified recently?
What do you mean? Like, there's a, like, in urban dictionary. It's like, you know how.
Serve them. Cunt. I think that there's, I mean, yeah, that, but you know how like,
Brad was a thing, you never, you know, or maybe still, you know, that's, that's brat. That's
Brat hits, I guess.
There was a Brat summer and now we're in...
I think the Cunt fall.
I think the Cunt fall in.
That's where Laura Lumer lives.
Cunt falls.
Yeah, Cunt falls.
I think in some corners of the internet,
Cunt had a thing like that for me.
When I say almost it was a gay thing or so I could be so far off base with all this.
It's always a gay thing.
And then you find out it was actually a black thing every time.
Dude, yes, man.
It's,
but I'll tell you what it is,
a straight white man thing.
It's always one of the two.
It's a gay.
thing or a black thing.
I'd say it's,
I'd say one or two times
it's been a straight white man thing
before it's been a straight white man thing.
Without question, dude.
Yeah, so Drew was right.
It originated with serving
cunt or giving cunt,
and it originated specifically
according to this,
on Rupal's drag race.
You feel like,
when you're saying someone is like
a bitch, you're like,
she's giving cunt.
Like, that's what you do?
No.
No, no, no.
It hits, I think.
Her.
Oh, so like,
something is a compliment.
Okay.
So it started amongst drag queens.
It started out, it started amongst, according to this internet research I'm doing, it started
amongst drag queens talking to other drag queens.
And so if you think about it that way, it means like you're really hitting that drag right
now.
Right.
It's serving cunt.
Right.
Yeah.
Because like you're really selling.
So far back in your asshole that cunt is what is being served to me right now.
Right.
Yeah.
Congratulations, madam.
Okay.
Hell yeah.
I'm in a little.
Like, I feel like we're really, really tiptoeing into, like, boomer terrorists.
We're, like, looking it up.
Yeah.
Yeah, but boomers wouldn't understand.
But then, like, it's just fine.
We're cool.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It is definitely.
Boomers don't look shit up.
Right.
They just hate it.
It's very dorky.
I'm saying that it's just funny.
It is all.
It's 100% you're asking.
We're not doing.
Here's the thing.
We're not doing boomer stuff.
It's just that millennials are now entering our, where,
we're the boomers phase.
You know what I mean?
And this is our version of doing that,
is looking things up.
Yeah.
I like how,
I want to say,
this is not true,
but this is what I've done in my mess.
Trey's mom forgot how old his kids were this week.
And then some part of his friends.
We can call him cunts again,
right?
Like,
back,
it feels like his back.
That's,
I mean,
that's very funny,
but I've never been less surprised
by anything in my life than her getting that question wrong.
So,
you know,
that was,
it would have been the opposite.
I would have been like all four more women's empowerment or something
if she'd have gotten it right.
You know what I mean?
Like, okay, well, maybe we're making some progress.
I'm kidding, ladies.
But yeah.
If she'd have gotten it right, you would know it's because she'd been trying to figure out your password.
You know what I mean?
That's very funny.
So what I didn't show y'all because it had not happened yet,
I seen all this screenshots.
So what they're talking about is I made a video with my kids' voices only in it last week.
You hear my son's talking, but you only see my face because I'm still kind of weird about all that.
And also, they're all right now that I got their permission.
They knew what I was doing.
I got their permission to do it.
But I put that video out.
And on Facebook, somebody asked, how old are your sons?
And on that, my mom commented on it and said the wrong thing by one year.
And then what y'all had been saying, right under that.
Katie then commented the correct thing, but with no, like, no other, like, oh, she's like, like just the, right, just the information.
Their grandmother posted an answer.
Yeah.
And their mother posted a different answer.
So that's clearly the right one.
So it just looks, you know what I mean?
It just like, it was very passive aggressive.
I don't know.
Like she's being, God damn it, Paula.
No, it does.
I get it.
You know what I mean?
I just feel like it really, like, no way that's hit for my mom.
I wouldn't ask you.
You should have got the fucking thing right.
I wanted to ask you about this because there's that, you know, there's that thing that goes on on the internet.
I think the biggest example of it was when that lady was like, I can't remember what the first part was, but the lady was like, my daughter was like, she looked at me and went Ruth Konda forever.
You know what I mean?
And it was about like kids.
It's like, these kids don't really say this shit.
Well, I know that goes on and we talk about it all the time.
But like, so with your, did you get accused of that from some people?
people with the video with your kids because when I when I retweeted it I specifically posted I was
like, Trey was texting me while this was happening and I was dying because I was like,
are people going to think he set these motherfuckers up?
I don't know.
I mean, what I did was and then, you know, me, I'd be ghosting and posting and ghosting, so I'm not
even sure.
But I did think about that because yeah, because I actually, on one of our internet shows we did
during COVID, I did a whole bit about that whole, because Ruth Condo forever had just happened.
And I did a bit about it.
And then I'm in desperate.
of new material right now, so I think I'm going to bring that bit back soon.
I was thinking about bringing that bit back about how I hate when people clearly lie about
what their kids say. And last week, I was like, it occurred to me, people are going to think
that I'm doing that, but I'm really not. So all I could think to do was, because at first,
first of all, I didn't plan any of it. I'm sitting there watching the debate with them,
and they are reacting hilariously. I know. It was great. Irvine was over here.
and that's the first time he's like hung out with them or anything and he was cracking up he was
cracking up too and they were like and i kept telling him i was like dude just so you know like they
don't know anything about none of this you know what i mean like i i don't i'm not indoctrinated
him whatsoever i haven't told them shit and that made it funnier and then like at one point after
already saying after multiple occasions of them being like what is up with this dude or whatever about
Trump halfway or more through the debate, one of them goes, wait, so who's the president
right now?
You know, so like they, like, they don't.
You know what's crazy about that?
They don't know, right?
They can just, they, point being, this is their first real introduction to Donald Trump and
their very first impression as innocent young children is this guy's a fucking maniac who's clearly
full of shit, right?
That's the point of the whole thing.
But by the time I realized that that was happening and I was like, maybe I could make this
part of the video, I started trying to like surreptitiously fit.
them during it, but then I was like,
no, I can't do that. I feel weird about that.
Also, I don't want them to be on it.
So then I landed on interviewing them afterwards.
And all I could think to do and what I did do is on my YouTube channel,
not anywhere else because of time limits,
but on my YouTube channel at the end of the video,
I posted the entire unedited conversation with them.
So people would know that you weren't feeding them shit.
Right.
Yeah.
And that I wasn't selectively editing it or whatever.
And then on the rest of this platform,
when I posted it, I just put a little thing in there that said,
just so you know on my YouTube channel, I'll post the whole thing,
so you know I'm not being shady with the editing.
Because I'm sure almost no one even cared, but yes, it occurred to me.
I'm only thinking about it because that didn't hit for me so much that anyone could think that,
that I was like, I have to take some kind of steps to address that.
Because I was so ready to defend you because I was like, no, I've seen it.
I saw it in live.
He was tweeting about it.
Anyways, here's what I wanted to say, it's so crazy.
at how good of a job you've done of like shielding them from all that because, hey, like,
you're a comedian first and foremost, but like you also are a political commentator. It's a big part
of your job. It is the reason that they even have that house in California. And also, your kids are
very intelligent. They both know how to use the internet so they can find shit out if they want to.
Also, we know that politics gets talked about in public where your kids are at all the time.
And they don't know shit about it because of how good a job you've done. Meanwhile, Amber
had second graders screaming build the wall in her classroom,
which shows you that it is the fucking parent fault.
So I tried to talk about that this week on stage,
because again,
I'm in the midst of coming up with all kinds of new material right now
or at least trying to,
and I tried to talk about that.
And I think I was just getting too bogged down in specifics of,
because what made me think about that was the day after I posted that video
was 9-11, right?
And, you know, don't hit 9-11, don't hit.
And on 9-11, Joe Biden went to where United 93 went down in rural Pennsylvania.
He did 9-11.
He said he was.
Shanksville.
Yeah.
He had a big day doing 9-11.
I think that's right.
Shanksville.
But it's a tiny little red-ass town in the middle of nowhere in Pennsylvania.
But he went there because of the memorial reasons.
And he took all these pictures with all these school kids and stuff.
And like 80% of them are wearing Trump shirts.
And not just Trump shirts, but like, Jesus is my Lord.
Trump is my president shirt.
Like, you know, like both Jesus and Trump and the Lord all wrapped up in one.
And I saw that.
And again, it was right after I posted my video with my sons in it.
And it just, I was like, and they, but all they ever do is talk about how weird.
The left is indoctrinating children.
They're like,
woke public schools indoctrinating them,
indoctrinating them with the gay agenda, whatever, all this shit.
And then yet you see that.
And it's like, I don't know, it's proof.
I also saw a like 14 year old boy in a twin peaks with his clearly divorced dad this weekend.
Like in Michigan, me and Donnie went to a twin piece.
Oh, you physically saw this.
Yes, me and Donnie went to a twin peaks to watch college football and get somebody
because it was right by our hotel and also, you know, in Michigan, you don't know.
That might have been court ordered.
He might have had to have that kid.
But now, you've never seen them more like this is one of two days a month he gets with these children type thing.
This dude had no wedding ring on.
He had a white guy with two.
a white guy with two white sons, like a 14 and a like nine or 10 year old, he brings them to
Twin Peaks. He's pounding beers while they've got Mountain Dews or whatever.
No one else driving.
The older one.
No, yeah, he walks.
They gets in the truck, drives off with him or whatever.
He's got a, and his older son has a Trump hat on the whole time or whatnot.
So, yeah, I just, it was on my mind the whole like they indoctrinate kids thing and bitch about
that's doing it, but, uh, it's not even just the indoctrinating kids. This whole thing with the,
the merch, like, you would have to, you would have to, you would have to waterboard me to get me to
wear like a politician shit all the time, unless I was like doing a video for him at the time or
something, but just like, right, go into a restaurant with a politician's shirt on, like the only,
the literal only political clothing I've ever owned in my life was, and it wasn't even really,
like, it was, I had a big Lobowski show.
shirt that was done in the style of Obama's Hope poster.
And I even stopped wearing that because I was like, I was like, well, it's kind of, it's,
it's giving cunt, you know what I mean or whatever.
And I also, I've got that Bernie sweater where he's doing the mean.
Never, never worn it.
I just got it because you got it if you donated to his campaign, which I did.
And so I got the sweater.
And I was like, well, I'll wear it at the house when I'm cold or something.
But I'm not going, they're not the bulldogs.
You know what I mean?
Like, God damn it.
Well, on that note, I had a, I don't know if I still do it.
I can't remember where I got it.
But I had a, I think somebody who gave it to me or Katie found it in Goodwill or something.
Like, it basically, it looked kind of like a Fubu jersey short, sort of.
But it was just, it was like a fake football jersey, meaning it wasn't for a real team.
It's a football jersey that's for a made up team who has the colors of red, white, and blue, a team called America.
Right.
Yeah.
And it's the number on the jersey is 44.
Obama.
name on the back is Obama, right?
Yeah.
And I thought that was like, it's funny because it's so ridiculous.
You know what I mean?
Like, especially me would do.
Especially me wearing it, you know?
Yeah.
Just seemed so absurd.
And so I wore it to like a couple Super Bowl parties and stuff like that out here a time or two.
I'm like, nobody was ever like, what the fuck, bro.
But even that, listen.
Like you, I was like, I can't.
I just can't keep doing this because I don't, I don't roll that way.
Like you said, I feel weird doing it.
During the Obama, we all lost our minds when we got a black guy.
It's fine.
We all had laps in judgment when we were real excited, you know, but now it's like, grow up.
Yeah, but no, I mean, yes, that is part.
You're right, because it's like part of it is the indoctrinating kid,
because there's plenty of liberal parents who definitely be.
It's false idols.
Feeding their kids a lot of liberal stuff all the time.
But still, I stand by it.
What did you say?
The merch thing too, yeah, is a big part of it.
It's just...
I just said, yeah, that Ruth Conda lady.
I mean, she's...
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Well, that's the bit when I did it on our show that we did, the setup for it was like,
I hate how other liberal parents always do this.
Because it does seem like whenever it's a kid saying some like really insightful type shit,
you know, it's always a liberal.
Of course, it's always a liberal because conservative talking points sound stupid.
So like, you know.
Yeah.
But it's like most, like, I'm not.
obviously, you know,
I know more conservatives back where I'm from than I do liberals just by virtue of I know everybody here and most people are conservatives.
But like my friends,
like the people that I really hang out with all the time are all at least a little bit liberal, right?
And some of like, you know, Amber worked with some people at the school that were liberal but wouldn't say anything because they didn't want the fucking parents to find out or whatever.
But like they've all got kids and like they,
The one thing all of them have in common is that they are doing their best to just keep their kids from knowing anything about what's going on.
But all the Trump people I know, they are feeding their kids.
Like you were saying, like they're constantly being like, and what do we say to Mike Pence?
Hanging by his ball sack, you know?
Like it's crazy shit.
And again, it goes back to your thing of like, who's indoctrinating who?
And then it's like, we got to go to church on Sunday.
And they talk about Trump there.
And I'm like, I'm like, dude, again, I know that all types of people exist.
And I know that there's people who are like, you know, as soon as their kid gets back home,
they put NPR headphones in their ears and are fucking trying to like CIA debrief.
I know those people exist.
They just don't exist to the extent, at least where I live, that the opposite is true.
Well, yeah.
I mean, you know, it's like you said, I don't, I mean, for me, it's just, you know,
American politics, especially throughout most of my children's lives, not literally all of them,
but not, but most of their lives so far has been a fucking nightmare.
Insane.
Insane.
A horror show.
A whole time it's been insane.
It may be everybody always thinks that all the time.
I don't know,
but it definitely feels way worse recently.
And like,
I just don't want them.
It's like,
no,
they'll get old enough to,
it's not like they can fucking vote.
It's not like their children.
They should have a childhood.
This shit stresses me out.
I don't want it stressing them out.
But it's like,
but with MAGA parents,
though,
it's this weird.
The whole thing is weird because it's like,
all they ever talk about is how terrible
everything is and how this country's going to shit
and fucking Biden and Kamler are tearing it
apart and fucking immigrants. There's an invasion
happening. But how you don't like it leave.
But how it's all bad and terrible.
But they
also are like, no,
this all hits or whatever. Like being mad
hits. Like me, I look at everything
and I'm like, none of this hits. I don't want
I don't want to share with my kids any of this stuff because
none of this shit hits. I deal with it because I have
to. We all have to deal
with it if you're responsible citizens, but it don't.
hit. But a lot of the Democrat rhetoric is like, things can be better. We can all
get together, whatever. And then on the right, it's like the exact opposite. I feel like,
everything fucking hits. Everything hits so hard. But all the rhetoric is like, because
Mexicans are fucking invading and everything's falling apart. There's communism in this country
fucking sucks. It's like, I know it's not that insightful of a thing to point out.
But it's like, no, I mean, I'm with hatred and rage, but that hits for you.
Yeah, no. And again, I don't understand. I've never understood why they have them
monopoly on the phrase if you don't like it leave because they're the ones that seem to not
like it like they're the you know what i mean like they're like they're like they're like
in joe biden's in joe biden's america this bullshit this bullshit and i'm like if you don't like
it leave that's what you told us the whole fucking time that trump was in like why don't you leave
go to fucking austria or wherever the fuck it is the argentina that you think is your your people go
yeah my house every day we wake up and we recite the pledge to eat the rich you go i've
I bathe my son in the blood of kings and queens.
And when we're done with breakfast, we walk outside and we chant, topple the patriarchy.
Well, I'll tell you what, you don't have to be rich to get a good.
Okay, my bad.
I thought you were done.
Fine.
I'm just going to say it's, I don't consider it liberal indoctrination because we don't like them either.
Right.
Yeah, I mean, do.
I hold his little eyes open and I make him watch Marxist documentaries.
Yeah, clockwork orange style, but with like liberal shit.
His first words were seize the means.
Yeah.
I seize the means every day.
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He doesn't know what the other one's talking about.
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um hey p did he's uh got addressed i thought he has he been on the run he no he i think they were
bringing charges but they did they i think they put him on uh put him on notice if that's the official term
I think they searched his house.
Yeah.
He took off in his jet.
Right.
But at that time, he was just wanted for questioning.
There was no arrest.
They've actually arrested him now.
Indicted, arrested.
They searched his house.
They found a thousand bottles of lube.
Jesus Christ.
A thousand.
Yeah.
He doesn't have a more.
I mean, you can't buy.
You can't shop at Costco anymore.
That's just a good deal.
They put that out.
They worry about friction.
that's what we're railroaded.
I thought the same thing because I saw that and I was like,
I saw the first part where it's like,
Did he gets arrested, sex trafficking, all this stuff?
And they were like, they found a thousand bottles of lube.
And I was like, okay, but you can do that.
Like, that's okay.
Like, I don't know who this is for.
Like, he's allowed to have that.
It's weird.
I think the issue is they're like, all right, well, this is not for you.
This is for a lot of people.
Now let's look around and see who stays here.
Right.
possession with intent to rape
never heard that one before
you know what I mean?
I'm just saying
I think there's a lot of like
15 year olds to be around
yeah yeah yeah yeah no no
I mean dude it was it was
it was trafficking
it was coercion it was drug
cartel related shit
like it was like he's so
and the FBI's involved
so is he like Black Epstein
or Black Weinstein or Weinstein
or whatever or mixture of boat
or he's his own thing
he's his own person
He's his own thing
I think he's closer to Weinstein though
because Epstein was a purveyor of fine children.
Right, yeah.
He was like the P. Diddy of like pedophile dealers or whatever.
This is a 2008 butthole.
Right.
Well, Pete Did he like he hit the stuff and then he,
but he fucks people over whatever.
But like Epstein, that's all he did.
He was like the world successful and famous.
Like Epstein was 100% working for somebody,
maybe multiple CIA type operative.
Like, Epstein was in the game of secrets.
And as part of that was in the game of all that stuff.
It seems like, I heard a lot about it,
it seems like Diddy was doing it because he was into it.
Yeah.
Like, he probably had a guy like Epstein.
You know what I mean?
Right, yeah.
And the only time he, like, did Epstein-like stuff, though,
was he would blackmail other people, you know, to get ahead in the music world.
That's why there's all these alleged clips of him like fucking young black musicians.
And supposedly it was like so he'd have that over him.
Right.
Yeah, we.
Weinsteiny.
Very much so.
But that's also why it's like that whole like, well, I don't know, I shouldn't say that.
As I understand it, and maybe I don't at all, about to get real white, real.
old in here.
But that whole thing, like you say, he was, you know,
banging young black musicians.
Maybe they weren't all black.
Young musicians and like blackmailing them and stuff.
Many of whom were dudes, right?
But like,
it weren't like a gay,
according to him, right?
Or like what he would say is like,
he ain't do that because it was gay.
He did that because it's like,
I run shit here.
Like I, like a dominance thing.
You know what I mean?
Like, this is what you got to do if you want to be in this.
And it ain't got nothing to do with me being gay.
It's just because like,
you must submit to me in order to be led into this kingdom or whatever type of thing, right, which is wild.
Yeah, I mean, I think the two things.
I think that's mostly just like internalized homophobia and it's like, no, I'm not gay.
Right.
No, dominate.
And like, there's something to that in terms of how straight America works.
You know, it's like, I mean, dude, even our heroes to drive.
by truckers have that great song about Bob.
Yeah, love it.
He might kneel, but he never been over.
There's always been like a thing of like,
what ain't gay if you're not getting your butt fucked fucked?
Right, yeah.
Which is like the weirdest type of misogyny and homophobia.
But then on the other side, I got to acknowledge like,
there's been a lot of studies.
That's a very prisony thing.
I know.
See, I almost said that, but then I thought it would sound bad in this context because
you know, I already called him the black Epstein or whatever.
And then I immediately was like, and he's got a whole prison thing going on, right?
This black man we're talking about.
But I wanted to ask you about that too, though.
He do.
There's a lot of studies of like men who, all right, you don't want to do prison.
There was a study that I studied.
There's a weird way to phrase it.
In college, there was one I read about in some social science class, men who work in minds.
Right.
Fuck, I do think it was in Africa.
God.
Damn it.
Well, what about, I mean, I was, I was going to get into all this already prisons,
but also what about the Navy, right?
And the Navy, they say, right?
It ain't gay if you're underway.
It's only queer if you're at the pier.
That's what they say.
That's what they say, not what I say.
But yeah, I know, like, dudes, when they get in big groups of dudes,
there's guys that start fucking other dudes who will maintain stably.
I'm not homosexual.
This is just, right.
He's just a bitch.
So wild is.
Right.
But dudes who would kind of become, I don't want to say transvestites, I don't know, I don't, I'm bad with the words.
There were dudes who would like dress up like women after work.
Yeah.
And then they would be on the receiving end.
Then when they would go back to their regular lives, they would never do it again.
Right.
And so the psychologists and social scientists were saying, obviously it's possible these men have these desires and feelings all the time and they're closeted.
But it's just as possible that this only happens when there are no women.
women around.
Right.
What does that mean?
You got to stick your dick in something.
But here's the thing about Diddy.
That ain't.
No.
Diddy is different.
He might say,
this is like prison rules and I'm the king of the.
Right.
But it's like, yeah, but we're not in prison, dude.
You can.
Right.
Apparently.
No, yeah, it is.
It is two different things.
Like purely just having some kind of like power dominance philosophy about
butt fucking is one thing.
But it is different than the whole like,
because yeah,
that's what they do.
They come back and then they never do any gay shit again, right?
They go back to prison.
They go back to doing gay shit.
It seems to me, I mean, because you do want to say, like you said,
internalized homophobia, they just don't want to admit it, whatever.
But I don't know.
It kind of seems viable that at least some of these dudes are like, of course it does.
You got to fuck something.
Well, I'm saying, well, dude, like they prefer pussy.
So when they get out, when they get out and they can get pussy, they'll get that.
But then when they go back and there's no pussy, they'll just take a back pussy, which is a buttonhole.
It doesn't explain the people who, yeah, it doesn't matter.
I think that I think genuinely that our understanding of how sexuality operates inside the brain is kind of basic.
Like I think in 200 years this will be like sort of elementary shit.
What was I going to say?
Oh, fuck.
I had another thought or point, but I forgot.
But so, but used to even put in what court just said aside, like the idea that, right, sexuality really, it is a spectrum.
It's a crazy spectrum.
And it's like, so there's surely dudes, I'm certain.
who go to prison and are there for a long time and love pork and wimmerns,
but never start fucking dudes, presumably.
I don't think they all do it.
And so it's like,
it's,
you still got to be somewhere on one end of the spectrum to even do it in the first place.
And again,
I'm discounted great hornier.
Of course.
Right,
but isn't that kind of the same thing?
Well,
no,
I'm saying like,
it's a different.
Yeah,
right.
I'm saying like you might not,
it might not be like,
yeah,
yeah,
yeah,
that's what I mean.
I don't,
I didn't mean like,
yeah,
you're hornier for dudes.
I just meant like you're,
you know,
dudes who like they got to get it out.
Yeah, right.
You're right.
I'm not one of them either.
No, like, and thank God, like, you know, because, yeah.
Me and Amber talk about it all the time.
Like, there will be times where we're like, we're going to do it tonight.
And then like our show's banging and we just won't.
No, this is harder.
Yeah.
It does.
It does.
But there's some dudes that I know who are like, absolutely not.
I must receive from my wife every day, you know.
There's that quote, that Tennessee Williams quote, everything in the world.
world is about sex.
Except sex.
Except sex, which is about power.
Right.
And I keep thinking about that in terms of what they say did he's claiming or whatever, which is, I don't think it matters.
I guess that's where I'm at is like, why does it matter?
Why does it matter?
It's almost grosser if he's fucking him without being in the dudes.
It's almost like more disturbing.
Absolutely.
It feels rape.
it is no it is right
if you say to someone who's of age
consensually you got to fuck me
to get what you want in this business
right right
that's like especially if you don't even want to fuck
like you if you literally don't want to fuck the dude
if you're literally not into it
you're only into the power dynamic of it
that means you're only into the fact that he doesn't want to do this
but he has to right because of who you are
and that you can make it yes
that is so much worse in my opinion.
For sure.
Crime-wise, it's the same crime.
But it's so much worse than I can't admit that I like fucking...
Absolutely.
I agree completely.
It's way more like psychopathic or whatever.
Right.
And I mean, in that, I think anyone who knows anything about Puff Daddy knows that that's what, like, that he is a psychopath.
I mean, it's very obvious as the years have progressed.
And like, you know, it's like he made so much money off his best.
friend's death.
With the song that he stole the sample to, apparently Sting, he has to send Sting like $100,000 a
month in perpetuity.
No, it's more than that.
It's like, bro, it's like that a week or something like that.
Like I read about it the other day and Sting was talking about how like all his kids go
to college specifically from just the money he gets from P.D.
Like it's nuts.
That's crazy, dude.
How, because I mean, that, look, when that's on a lot.
came out it hit for me or whatever, but that, like, I can't remember the last time I heard
that song.
Like, I can't believe that that song still getting that kind of spins.
Yeah, I was curious about how the agreement or the $1.8 million annually.
Crazy.
I'm curious about that because you would think it would be a percentage, which mean that it should
fluctuate.
But that aside, going back to the original question, I think that Epstein is a man who was a man
who used people like Puff Daddy
and their depravity
to get what he wanted.
They were like his clientele,
weren't they?
They were like his clientele.
That's what I think.
Yeah.
So y'all might have covered this
when I was downstairs grabbing my child,
but like, you know, Mark,
I think it was Mark that was saying
that like,
Epstein's whole fucking thing
was like,
it's not that he wanted to help these people out,
it's that he wanted to get dirt on them.
And like he'd bring them there,
show them the thing.
then he'd have them and it's like, okay,
even if you never come back, you came and I got the evidence of it.
So, like, now you'll do everything that I want to do.
And who knows, everything the CIA wants you to do or what the fuck ever.
But dude, P. Diddy, like, so, like, the Chappelle skit that he did about P. Diddy,
where it was like the making of the band thing.
Like, it was obviously all a joke.
But, like, the joke that Chappelle was making was that P. Diddy was a psychotic motherfucker.
And this is 30 years ago before any of this stuff.
So it's like, it all made.
make sense, dude.
Like, he was, even before anybody knew any of this stuff, it's like, hey, there's something
wild about this fucking cat.
Also, did you hear the rumor that, I mean, this is just a speculative rumor, but that
that's the reason that Ben Affleck left J-Lo?
What?
She's involved.
She's got, she was named in a fucking file.
She was married to Petty, and she was named in one of the files or whatever.
I totally forgot about that.
Yeah, she was married to Peatty, and they said that she was named in one of the files or whatever,
so, like, she's going to end up being subpoena.
and Ben Affleck was like, I ain't trying to have this.
Now, granted, so they broke up.
Anybody's surprised if it turns out she's evil?
Is anyone slightly shocked?
No.
And she might be like a Carmelo Soprano thing where it's like she didn't technically
do anything, but she knew it the whole time and didn't give a fuck.
But like, they also, by the way, they were caught making out last week and holding hands.
So they might be a little.
Her and P. did he?
Yeah, no, no, no.
Her and Ben Affleck, even after he left her.
I saw some amount on Twitter say that Ben Affleck and J-Lo is white.
people's cardian offset, which made a lot of sense.
But yeah, they're saying that she might be named in some defamation case and be subpoenaed
to court.
And that's why Ben Affleck was like, hey, you know how much I already hate going to regular
dinner.
You know what I mean, I ain't doing it.
You ever think about like what, at what, is it a monetary level, a certain amount
of money you have to make in a year or something in show business or it's like a fame
level, a certain amount of notoriety you break through?
But like at what point do you enter this entire other world?
of abject insanity that clearly does exist in the world of like entertainment and shit.
Because it's like,
I think you got it.
And it's like people,
you know,
people be,
you know,
when they talk about wine stands like everybody knew,
everybody knew all this type of stuff.
Spacey,
singer,
everybody was like kind of open secrets and the drug use and the horn and the kids and all
just wild shit.
And it's like,
you know,
and we barely hit at all.
But like,
and,
you know,
my entire experience with anything Hollywood E,
network executives,
writers making shows and scripts and that type of thing.
It's all very like,
just job-y kind of.
Yeah, like, it's all this thing.
It's like,
we always talk about how we missed it.
It's very buttoned up.
There's no craziness at all.
Nobody does coke anymore.
Obviously, the craziness does exist,
but it's like, I wonder at what point they like,
wonder at what point if you're a-
Bring you in the room?
Yeah, exactly.
If you're ascending at what point,
They're like, okay, you can, you can be.
What Trace trying to ask is when they're going to give him a kid.
No, but I want to know, like, when I'm going to have to like, at what point you got to, you know, fucking.
This is the dis?
Like, get that you get fucked in the butt, you know, and it's like, again, I promise you, no one's offered.
Because if that's all I had to do for guaranteed my kids are going to school and I ain't got to worry about getting a job, I'll take one for the fucking team.
But like that ain't.
It only Joe Rogan joke I can remember Lacking.
It's a very fucked up point, but I found it funny because I understood it, which was, if Harvey Weinstein did it to my daughter, I'd hang him up by his balls.
If he did that with my kid, I'd be like, congrats, buddy, you're Batman.
Suck his dick to my son.
The idea of he, like, what feels differently.
It's like, all right, buck up, young man, which is fucked up.
I know that, but I knew what he meant and it was funny.
Um, I think that
I think we've seen versions of it.
I think that what it is is there's a lot of denial that goes on.
And then, dude, it's just power.
It's like, yo, did those two girls go in Weinstein's office?
What's going on in there?
Well, we're going to mind our own business because he's Weinstein.
Also, there has to be a...
We don't know what's going on, blah, blah, blah.
Also, there has to be some feeling of like,
I'm sure it's that like whatever that phenomenon is where if like 20 people are in an alley
and they see somebody getting raped, nobody calls the cops because they assume everybody else did.
You know, like the bystander effect.
There's a fusion of responsibility.
Anyway, there's definitely a little bit of that going on, I'm sure.
And then with like women especially who like, you know, they're like Oprah knew or what's Oprah's different.
Like she's one of the most powerful people ever, but like all these other.
Because my mom will say this all the time.
She's like, some of the women knew and they didn't say anything.
shows you how good a feminist they are. And I'm like, these women know firsthand what it's like
to go to the cops with a story like this. You know what I mean? So like, I'm sure some of that
was going on too. And then it's like also, who do you tell? Who do you tell? Right. Because if
somebody's this powerful that's going on, like they've got these people in their pocket. And I'm sure
there was a lot of dudes like that too that they were like, should somebody say anything? And somebody was
probably like, oh, they say stuff all the time. And that person ends up dead or that'd be like,
you know what I mean? Who do you say it too? Right. Because cops don't get.
Your career's over.
If you go to the cops, what do you go to them with?
Right.
Because then they're just going to, what, even if they asked Weinstein, he'll be like, no, I didn't.
And they'll be like, well, we don't have any evidence.
Now, it turns out he's been a real bastard to his own children apparently lately.
But the one person that I thought came out of the Weinstein thing looking like a champ was Pitt.
Brad Pitt was dating Paltrow.
Yeah.
He said he'd kill him.
And he was like, if you'd try, even try anything with her, I will kill.
Do you know what all later happened with Brad Pitt?
I just said he's not hitting lately.
Yeah, yeah, okay.
I'm about to say.
Look, I don't know none of this.
It's wild.
Well, I don't want to, you know.
Yeah, yeah.
Because he's huge.
He's huge and I don't understand how some things get massive in terms of stories
and some things it seems like no one ever hears about.
I guess it's just having really good spin doctors or publicists or whatever.
I don't know.
But like, because, I mean, he's as big as it gets.
Well, dude, too big to fail works.
of individuals too.
If you go looking for it,
but the victim in this case,
or one of the victims in this case,
is Angelina Joe Lee,
who's also huge.
Dude,
before we,
so if you go looking for it,
media made her crazy for years.
You can find,
like,
some very damning information
and evidence and stuff out there
about Brad Pitt being a real piece of shit
towards her and they,
and they kids and stuff,
but,
like,
physically,
yeah,
yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, not that either one's good.
Again, who knows.
Who knows what the truth is or whatever.
But that's, yeah, yeah.
This is all the legend.
One is definitely better.
Well, all right.
But yeah.
So not to get too derailed, getting back to what I was saying,
because I don't want to sound like I was just saying,
throw your hands up in the air.
I mean, I do understand that there's like,
but here's the thing.
A lot of people just go with it.
And that appropriately, I think, discuss people.
I think a lot of people can empathize with the whole, like,
yeah, I guess you can't go to the cops and say,
I think Harvey Weinstein made Gwyneth Paltrow suck his dick for this role.
You can't.
But a lot of people don't empathize with.
So I just made seven more movies with him.
Right, right, right.
I think a lot of people appropriately sort of go like, all right.
There's a middle ground.
You couldn't figure out how to stop it as just a guy,
Quentin Terenc, you know.
But did you have to like do your next seven movies with him,
considering how big you are?
Like, did you have to do it with him?
It makes people feel, I think, appropriately like, nah.
No, I get that.
up. Yeah, no, I get that.
And then I think a lot of other people
imagine that if it was like kids,
that they would actually do the Brad Pitt
thing. Now, whether or not
they're right or not, I do understand that
feeling in normal humans kind of
going, bro, if Harvey Weinstein
or whoever was fucking a 13 year old,
I'd just go in there and kill it. Like, I get that they
think they'd do that. And maybe they would.
Some people might. I feel the same
way with people who, hey, bud,
I feel the same way with people who
are doing like new Woody
Allen movies. You know what I mean? It's because like he still gets really big stars. And the thing is,
it'd be one thing if like Woody Allen movies opened well at the theaters. They don't even do that
anymore. So like these big stars are just doing it just to be in a Woody Allen movie. And it's like,
you're getting him at the worst part of his career. Like, okay, here's my thing. I don't,
I will never feel bad for the fact that Midnight in Paris is one of my favorite movies. I won't.
I like the movie. He did it. I'm sorry. I know now that we shouldn't do that. But there's a,
you can you can say well you know i like his old work that but you don't have to be in his
fucking movie because like well that's the whole thing about i was saying about like at what
point do you reach this other world me you'd be in his movie at what point right now you'd be in
of course i would but i'm not these people i need a break we don't hit we don't know what i'm
i'm saying like fucking uh like owen wilson he's good with him it's that like people
justify that he's a creep not a and i'm not saying i
feel this way? I'm saying I think their brain is going.
He is creepy, but...
He was a creep in the 70s, but he's not...
That was...
And I'm not saying this is true, but I think their brain's going.
He's not a fucking wrong ago.
But, but like...
I know. I'm just saying, I think it's what they're
doing. At what you're saying,
at what point, you get called into the room and you join
this crew of everybody's keeping all these secrets and doing all this
wild shit, apparently, because like, with
woke-ass Hollywood, so many woke-ass Hollywood liberals
like signed a petition to like let Roman Polanski back, you know, whatever.
And it's, you know, like almost everybody who hits in Hollywood was like, no, Roman
Polansky, he hits.
We like him.
He's what's up.
And it's like, you know, raped a 13 year old or whatever, but they're like, yeah,
but I mean, you seem to pay in this though or whatever.
Like he makes.
But now he's French, so it's fine.
Right.
Well, yeah, well, I mean, French just being fine with him, that never didn't make sense.
Yeah, right.
You know what I mean?
Like, except then it's plenty or den, don't know.
especially in the 70s.
I mean, but it's fake.
Like, are you really
I guess surprise? I mean, is that what you're saying?
That you're surprised they did that because they're
Hell no.
No, I'm not surprised that they felt
that way. It is sometimes hilarious
how like they
it's like they don't know
how they're being seen. Like, you know what I mean?
Like, I understand that they feel
that way, but like, but like
they will be like, well, what does everybody think we're hippoccur?
critical. That's because they're diagnosably mentally ill. Right. Yeah, it's, it's not. You know,
like, that's, that's, that's, that's what our industry is, is mental illness being able to make
money off of it. Right. And, and, you know, everybody's got problems. I'm not, I'm not saying I'm not
mentally ill. I'm just saying like, yeah, they don't know how they're being perceived. They really
think that they're the best. And I mean, when like, I mean, the thing about what
Spacey did. We've talked about it on here recently.
That was crazy. He really
thought he could just be like,
what if I just go on and talk to America
as Frank?
He's nuts.
Fucking nuts.
It's one of those things
you almost kind of have to be, or I don't
know, I don't think you have to be, but
there's just a huge overlap
between, it's like how
so many CEOs are sociopaths and that
type of thing, and also so many, like, highly
successful athletes, too, or like,
incredibly delusional and all this type of stuff because you need to be.
I think it's just like Hollywood, like those type of people exist in every single facet of human behavior.
It's just that in Hollywood, they're in front of a camera.
So you see it more.
I'll go one step further than that.
In Hollywood and in D.C., there's a mix of them being that type of person and a weird thing with fame.
And then in D.C. a weird thing with power.
That's like a really fucked up combination.
If you're the kind of person who like really needs to be famous and like thinks it's cool to act that way, like that's a real, real toxic thing.
Same thing with like politicians.
If you're the kind of person who's attracted to and wants power and you want to fuck kids or you like want to fuck 20 year olds that you're in power over, that's a real fucking conversation.
Whereas a perverted plumber, they only got the one issue.
Right.
And so it's not.
So they're also, it's just like a different scale.
It's the same thing.
I mean, we're kind of looking at this wrong.
We're asking questions that are fair to ask like, what, what are you supposed to do?
How the fuck does this happen?
Everyone knows about it.
Well, why don't we see it when we're out here and it's all buttoned up?
The church, schools.
Yeah.
Predators go to places where they can hide in plain sight on purpose.
And fame is such an intoxicating and powerful thing.
Like, there are people who.
who maybe not consciously,
but on some level,
generally want fame
so they can be a bag of shit.
Well, and some fucked up people are charismatic.
They might not even know it,
but that is what is attractive to them
about the idea of being seen.
I want to be invincible.
I want to be bigger than life.
Yeah, like so, I mean, I think a lot of people,
you know, we've really romanticized
like the craft of acting and stuff,
which like I'm into or whatever,
but everybody wants to believe, like,
actors get into acting for the craft and to act.
And like, some of them do,
But, like, you know, Arnold Schwarzenegger was, like, very honest about he's like, I wanted to be a star.
I wanted to make money and be a star.
And, like, I'm not shitting on Schwarzenegger.
Like, he's, as far as they all go, he's done some fucked up shit.
Dude, he's the man.
Do what?
He's the man.
No, I know.
Because of that.
Because he was like, I want to fuck sluts.
Right.
18 and up ones.
Yeah, but I'm saying like, there's more people like him that are also inherently evil where it's like, it's like, yeah, they're a good actor or whatever.
but I don't know that they gave that much of a fuck about the craft.
They just wanted to be in a position to do whatever the fuck they wanted to do.
And or they wanted their craft to be what they're known for that they'll use,
all right, this is a perfect segue in the thing.
And I promise I'm not just bringing this up because we argue over him already.
I cannot believe people were shocked that Dave Grohl did a bad thing.
Like, it genuinely freaked me, me either.
Freaked me the fuck out.
I was like, who are these people who believed,
And I was like, he's a rock star.
Anytime someone is known to be a good person,
that they've cult Ellen, Oprah, Dave Grohl,
Cosby.
That fat fuck, James, what's his name?
Although everyone now knows he's a little worm.
Anytime someone worked that hard to get known for being good,
you can't be shocked that they're not because it's all just to get another thing.
I don't understand how people don't see that.
It genuinely blows my mind.
And by the way, everyone does it.
It's just people do a different version.
Some people will own it a little bit better.
Bill Burr will be like, yeah, I'm not really that angry.
But, you know, it makes what I do work.
It's like.
Well, or like sometimes even good people make mistakes.
Imagine the disappointed Bill Byrd didn't yell at you if you met him.
But you're the angry guy.
What the fuck did you think was happening?
But let me, I mean, just play a little bit of devil's advocate here.
Like Corey said, he's a rock star.
I'm not surprised he was fucking 19-year-old.
old's or any of that.
Are you surprised he's not a good guy?
Okay, let me ask you this.
I don't know that he's not all the way though.
It's a kidding guy.
Drew, let me ask you.
This will never happen.
We all know that.
But let's say within the next two or three years, I like level up tremendously.
I get cast in some big movie or something like that.
And all of a sudden, I'm like very famous, like legitimately.
I mean, what do you think people are going to say about me?
Like, or what people are going to think, oh, he's real sad.
It could be that.
But like, it's not going to be, what's my reputation going to?
Because I'm, I'm nice.
I treat people nicely.
But you have not cultivated that as a brain.
That's kind of what I'm asking is like, would people still not say that about me just because I am that way?
Even though I'm not going to go out of my way to like cultivate that image.
Also, if Trey made one mistake and got someone else pregnant, would we as our, as his friends be like, he's a piece of shit.
Fuck him.
He's a monster.
You know what I mean?
Like, no, I'm not calling Dave Roller.
We know him.
I'm calling Dave Role a Monster because what the fuck he did to Courtney Love and fucking Cobain's daughter because he denies AIDS exists.
I'm calling him a monster because he's a fucking monster.
Wait, what?
He literally says AIDS does it.
He's a piece of shit, but that's not the point.
Hold on what?
And getting back to Tray's point is, or your question, I think what you're asking me is what would people perceive me?
I don't know.
What I'm saying is when people have clearly cultivated a good guy image, it's shocking to me that people,
People don't see it as that.
You have never cultivated that.
You've just been a comedian.
I think that's what people would say.
People think Bill Burr's a good guy.
But if he, like, was ranting at someone on the subway,
no one would be like, damn, man.
You know, like, it's like, I don't understand people who got shocked
by Ellen being a bad person.
It's like she spent 30 years trying to convince you that she's a sweetheart.
That is weird.
Okay, but with Grohl, like his, his, it was all cultivated.
by things such as like, you know, the story of like there was that fair where he went and played drums with that band who was playing his shit.
You had that.
You had the fact that like he broke his leg and he came back and still did the song or what.
These are all the things that like mythologized.
That I'm talking to two people who think Tom Cruise is fast.
I really don't know.
That's not.
No, no, no, dude.
I'm with you.
I'm with you in that like, when they said that he did this shit, I was like, what are you fucking talking about?
He's a rockster.
What I'm saying is like, he, like, he still did do all that.
Like, there's part of me that's like, did he, like, did he set out to go, I'm going to make everybody think I'm a good guy?
Or was he just being his normal jovial self?
And they, they started doing it.
And he was like, okay, well, like, I am friendly and amenable or whatever.
And like, I don't know.
You know what I mean?
But I didn't know, hold on.
I didn't know about the AIDS thing.
Bill, like, Keanu.
There are people who do set out to make everyone believe they're a good guy.
Because either they hate themselves and they're really sad with who they are.
or they know they're a shitty person and they have to.
And it's just like when you find that out about someone,
I'm not saying everyone who's nicest like that.
That's not my point.
I'm saying when you find out someone did that,
it's wild to me that people don't go,
oh yeah,
we've seen that.
Dude, I could not agree with you more.
I could not agree with you more on that.
Because again, like,
the thing that Dave Grohl did,
if Dave Grohl had have done that in the 90s,
everybody would be like,
well, yeah, of course,
he's the lead singer of a band.
And like only in this, like, you know,
your bit, which is so illuminating and great,
about like the behind the music or whatever.
Matter of fact, don't you even use the foo fighters as like an example in that?
No.
Well, either fucking way.
Like, we know too much about people now that it's like they can break our hearts more.
But like, all, what he did is like, okay, you should never get a 19 year old pregnant.
But if you compare that to the stuff that even the maybe the members of Steely Dan were doing in the 70s, it's like,
hey, all right, buddy, whatever.
That's not, you know, like, Stephen Tyler and them talk about all these fucking, like,
we don't know, man, there might have been a 15-year-old there.
Who fucking knows?
It's also, like, Ellen, Ellen had my meme, and everybody liked my meme, totally fooled.
That is true.
James Corny had a huge swath of mainstream America fooled, and he's like, he's this great, nice,
fun-loving guy.
But both of those, like, it's very easy.
I mean, I've heard so many stories about both of them, both from, like, people in real life
and people on podcasts and people on the internet or wherever.
Like if you're paying attention or look for it, you hear about people being an asshole
or being hard to deal with or whatever.
And then there are certain people who you don't ever hear that stuff about, like I said it,
like Keanu Reeves is one of them.
Tom Hanks.
Right, okay.
Yeah.
So that's a perfect example.
If Keanu Reeves turned out to be a dickhead, I'm not saying I wouldn't be shocked.
But I would be like, okay, another one of them fooled me.
And that's fair.
And getting back to the predator thing, I was simply trying to say that, like, sinister people are very attracted to places they can hide in plain sight.
And fame is one of them for this exact reason, because you can cultivate that image.
So would it surprise me to find out Keanu Reeves was a bag of shit?
Yes.
Would it break my heart?
No.
Well, yeah, having your heart broke is weird.
Well, I think it's like if you attach morality to someone you don't know, that's retarded.
Yes.
And I just don't know with that.
I agree with that.
I'm sorry I said that word.
Like, it's dumb.
It's so dumb because, not just because you don't know them, but also because they're in an industry in which cultivating that is like, of course they want people to think they're good dudes.
Right.
Of course they do.
That makes them money.
I loved Cosby when I was a kid.
Like, we were a Cosby show household.
Like I had his albums.
We fucking loved him.
I bought into the America's dad thing.
When all that shit came out about Cosby, I didn't go,
my fucking childhood is ruined, my sense of self is shattered.
I mean, it sucked, but I was like upset for the ladies, not myself.
You know what I mean?
And like with Grohl, it's like, don't give me, don't get me.
Not the privacy.
Great.
Don't get me wrong.
Like, when I heard the thing about Grohl, I was like, this is my reaction.
I went, oh, dog.
But then I stopped thinking about it forever, and I still have food fighters on a playlist,
and it don't even come up in my brain.
when they play.
Like, I don't give a...
These are fucking...
Like you said, you don't know these people.
They're celebrities who enjoy their shit
and fucking listen to your dad.
Enjoy their shit.
Yeah, I gotta go pick up my son
or I'm gonna do that.
Okay, plug your shit.
Plug my shit.
I'll be in Asheville.
Thank you, everyone who came out to Raleigh.
It was a dope show.
We had a lot of fun.
I'll be in Asheville for two shows, October 4th.
I'll be in Chattanooga.
The Friday of, like, October 18th or 19th.
I'll be in Atlanta the next night.
What else I got?
I got Bristol in November.
I got St. Augustine, Florida.
I feel like I left the city out,
but you can go to Drew Morgancom to get the dates.
All right.
I'll be in Ohio,
four cities in Ohio,
this here weekend with Travis Irvine again.
And then next up,
I got Bristol in Atlanta,
and then I'll be in Missouri,
Missouri,
and then all over the place after that.
I feel he's coming up soon
and a bunch of places.
So go to Treycroutor.com and come and see me.
Hey, everybody. First off, thanks to everybody who came out in Center, Alabama. I was sort of making fun of the town. But the place I played, it was absolutely amazing. Thanks to everybody who came. Thanks for wearing your Corey Forster shirts. And I signed a couple books, and I left room for you to sign it when they came to see you. That's our book around here and over yonder, by the way. It's available wherever you get books. The audio version is the best. October 11th, I'm going to be at the Uptown Comedy Corner in Atlanta with my good, close personal friends.
friend of the show, friend of all of us, Mr. George Wallace, doing comics for Kamala.
So come see me.
You can get tickets at Comicsforcomcom.
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Other than that, thank you all for listening to the well-read show.
We'd love to stick around longer, but we got to go.
A tune in next week if you got nothing to do.
Oh, also I have another story coming out for the Atlanta Journal Constitution this week.
Thank you. God bless you.
Good night and skew.
Fart.
Bart.
