wellRED podcast - #407 - The Brand Of Russell (Brand)

Episode Date: September 25, 2024

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but don't give a thud. A little redneck That makes Some people upset But they got Three big old dicks That you can suck Skiwi

Here we are How about you? I don't know it Afraid to tell it The other thing they say Right to tell it Yeah That's good

I always like that Or if I knew it I'd be afraid to tell it Yeah You know A couple of them Southern idioms Or idiombs

I guess if they're from the south We're lousy with them And they hit I know I've like, I got a bit right now where I'm kind of those come up. Yeah, me too. It's a, I try, I try to do one year. I mean, I did do one years ago about like trying to make,

because, you know, when the whole liberal redneck thing was still like hot off the presses. Trying to make new ones, but progressive. Like super progressive ones. And I mean, I had a few. I mean, the bit was fine. It wasn't, you know, it wasn't a showstopper or nothing, but it was okay, but I can't even remember them now. But in this new one, I'm just, it's kind of just an excuse to, you know how he'll be, the majority of them

started out as Scottish people, right? Yeah, right. Oh, it's fucking a space. Right, yeah. So, the idea, like, I just really wish we'd never stop talking like that, you know?

Yeah. Like, we still talk like that. And then I say, you know, we got all these silly things we say, and it would hit harder if we said them like that, I think, and then I just say a few. And it's, you know, great fun.

Sometimes when I'm on stage, because, like, you know, me and you were very different in our approaches, which I mean, we all three are very different in our approaches, but, like, I'd be writing. on stage a lot, so sometimes I'll just be blabbering until I get to a thing. I've found that

every now and then because those idioms are so ingrained in me, I will end up using one as a figure of speech in a bit, and I'll almost feel like I'm stealing, even though I'm not, you know what I mean? Like, I'm not because it's just, that's how we talk, but I'm like, that phrase is so goddamn funny. It almost feels like a cheat for me to use it right there. You know what I mean? Yeah. But I mean, hell, I feel like our accent can work. like that too sometimes you know what i mean just literally just away with top you know i had a video one time i did that was like probably my most liked on ticot which is where i i gave like i did six or i did seven southern idioms but one of them wasn't true and people had to guess which one was made up and

no one got you know i mean some people from the south but like you could tell who wasn't from the south because they were like they equally sound ridiculous to me whereas like to me the one i made up was clearly more ridiculous, but to them, they were like, what the fuck are you talking about? Speaking of what the fuck are you talking about, we've been threading in the group chat. So noted raconteur and sex pest and pretentious wainer, Russell Brand,

is apparently, I didn't know this, so you started putting it in the text stuff cord, but he's apparently he's found the Lord, right? And we're so proud. Which, according to Mark, he's already got a, Bible app coming out and that timing feels suspicious to me. I said in the group chat it feels like when he he pivoted

hard to the right right before it came out that he had done all this sex pest stuff and that's like that's a good move because if you're on the right that hits for them. They don't care. That's actually my video this week is not him but just sex stuff and how they do it all the time. But anyway, I mean that's all of our break in case of emergency.

You know what I mean? Right. Yeah. And so he did that and it feels to me like he had the idea. No, I don't know what you mean. I'm kidding. Yeah. Just if you know some shit's going to come down, just pivot to the right, and then they'll have your back. What happens? Well, that's the first thing I wanted to say when I knew we were going to talk about this is it's our fault.

Russell Brand, noted well-read fan going years back, stolen jokes from all three of us. Messiah Complex. He got all that from Trey, the whole special. Saying nonsense. He got that from me. Yeah. And then, you know, but. Fucking butts and stinking.

I was going to bring. fucking bunch, yeah. And stinking. But we have been saying for years, man, if your back's ever against the wall, all you got to do. Yeah.

You know what I mean? And so it's on us a little bit. As usual, it's on the liberals. I just came out with the line of red hats. I'm already like slowly tubberthing my way in. The liberals have done this. So he,

but now, you know, as any good right wing grifter should, I guess he's just now apparently getting around to the, the Lord part. But he's already got this Bible app coming out, according to Mark. So, you know, in my head's like, which came first, probably the idea for a Bible app.

But, dude, the idea that Russell Brand's going to corner the market on Bible app, I just assume there's got to be plenty of, you know, terrible. What's he bringing to the table here? Russell Brand. Yeah. The Russell brand. Sure. Yeah, I guess that's true.

I guess that's true. But you said talent, because the reason we're talking about all this is because he's been on Twitter lately. he'll probably interpret he'll probably give like an niv version but like the russell version and that seems to be what he's working on or practicing because he's on twitter like mark called it like giving book reports about like you know little buddy's first sunday school or whatever like he's going through the bible and like analyzing it but it's some of it it's such like surface level analysis that even i a noted bible dumb son of a bitch and reading it like well yeah that's like that's like Isn't that kind of the whole thing with that? Right. But he, of course, delivers it in a, like, Russell Brandy way.

Like, he's just really up his own ass about it and talk about, like, this has just occurred to me. This is truly insightful as anyone thought about this. You see, no, what he did was, instead of just bringing one animal, he brought two because then they could reproduce, you see, that was thinking on a deeper level. It's chess, right? You've got to have them shag a bit so there can be more animals.

you. But yeah, and what he said, the point to him, the like central point of Genesis, right, was that mankind turned away from God and accepted the Satan's offer of like, you know, eating from the tree of knowledge or however he put it. But it's like, he just kind of restated what the, what the, just what the story is. Like, it was, Mark calling it a book report was pretty good because it, it did seem like a, you know, like a, a, a freshman in high school or something like just re rephrasing shit and

summarizing stuff but he's doing that with the Bible and it's a it's a wild thing but I just wonder what you guys thought about because y'all be knowing the Bible y'all went through that a long time ago so like when you see a man experiencing this what do you think about it

Drew? I wish the British would stop taking our roles we are supposed to be the people who do drugs fuck bitches and then turn to the Lord. Confederate Railroad did this bit in the 90s, and they came around to all of our churches and told us, don't do the things I did,

don't be like me. And we were like, fucking why, you dickhead? You got to wear women's clothing. You've got to be inside women's clothing and women, your whole 20s and 30s. And then when your heart was about to explode, you gave it to the Lord. You're like, here's my shitty heart, God.

Take it from me. And the fact that we're letting a British person get away with this. Look, dude. Think about this. Him and J.D. Vance were just at the R&C, the convention. Jady Vance and Russell Brand being in the same place,

having the same interest, speaking to the same. Church is the only place a fat pussy and a fucking drug addict. A former fat person now who fucks fat pussies can be together. And Brand noticed that. There was no place in England for him. and it pisses me off. Do you remember when that story came out that the Spanish Special Olympic basketball team,

10 of them was just regular-ass people? No, not really, but I believe you. That was a huge scandal in the parent and the Special Olympics World. 10 of the Spanish were like, hey, man, we are dumb to the level of, we can say the word. And they were like, I guess you're not allowed to, you know what I mean,

It's kind of like being Native American or black here when you apply for a job. It's like, well, you're not allowed to. So can James Winston play in the Special Olympics? I think so. Jamal Williams did. Yeah, Jamal Williams really can't remember his name. Yeah, he like holds records, I think. Yeah, he's like the fastest guy ever.

Because, of course he is because he's one of the best running backs of all times. Yes. So the Spanish team did that. Jamal Williams in the Special Olympics. I'm saying you've got to commend somebody for seeing a lane. and filling it. Those basketball players were like, here I am trying to make an NBA, I can't.

Where is there a place where I can play basketball, but there's a lack of talent? Russell Brand looked at the right wing and said, there ain't no charming motherfucker. Zero. Their best guy is a bowtie wearing grown man who looks like a 14-year-old. Right.

Who's preaching Nazism. He's one of their biggest acts. Alex Jones gets red-faced and scrambling. about frogs, they love him. Literally anyone can do this. Well, that's true. Alex Jones has kind of got a little something, I think. He's got a little something.

He even said it on a red. I literally was saying he's their best. These are their two best are Tucker and Alex. If that's the Michael Jordan and LeBron James of your group, Russell Brand looks at that and goes, this millions on the table, love. Of pounds. No, you're right.

Because also, like, when we, We're sitting there as people who understand text on a deeper level than the surface that he's, you know, projecting it as. But like he knows. Some would call that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you.

You know, like text like under the main text. Yeah. Yeah. I've never heard anyone say text. But I've never heard anyone use text that way. Well, it's correct. But I was kind of being. I was being a little Russell Brandy on accident, frankly, saying a bunch of things that me.

Oh, I mean, Trey Crowder, excuse me, not Russell Brown. He's saying a bunch of things that mean something you could have said less of. Anyways, point is, Russell Brand, like, to me, like, don't even wrong, all this reads as him being a dipshit, but he also knows, like, the audience that I'm going for isn't intellectuals. Like, this surface-level revelations really hits for these type of people, like Christians and shit like that. That really hits for them, and it's going to,

and it's just like how the Southern accent makes you sound dumb, my accent makes you sound smarter. So I don't even really have to say anything that's smart. I can just say an obvious thing, and these people will be like, so true, Russell. It's so nice that someone who used to be in Hollywood and is British has turned to the Lord. That's all they need. All they need is him being with the Lord. They don't need him to be anything else.

I'll add to it. I doubt he tweeted that. I feel like there's a team behind this shift. Let me go ahead also, if you don't mind, and give some context. That is text that is in the surrounding areas to make what you're talking about on the surface make more sense. Brand had a show with Catherine Ryan planned in about, I think it was 20, 21. Who's Catherine Ryan? Is that Paul's wife? Catherine Ryan is that she's a comic out of Great Britain, but she's Canadian, so she sounds American.

She's got a real Joan Rivers thing. Do you know what I'm talking about? She does all their... She's got a show with Jimmy Carr. You know the chick that doesn't have a British accent but has a show with Jimmy Carr? Yeah, I know who you're talking about now. So they had a show plan together.

Well, in the... She doesn't like him. Because the allegations, it's kind of like... She has like Russell. ...somebody or somebody over here where their circuit knew before it came out.

Yeah. Right. So during the taping, it was on their version of MTV. She started, like, part of their back and forth during the panel, it's an unscriptive.

show. She's going at him a little bit. She's basically calling him a creep. Right. So he starts like getting mad about this. Well, around that same time, it comes out that vice, he storms off set one day because she basically called him a rapist. Then it comes out that vice is about to do a complete article with the people who ended up coming forward. Like vice was going to break that story. About the same time supposedly that he started recording that show with MTV, he started getting back on YouTube for the first time consistently since 2015. He got an injunction against Vice, which didn't prevent obviously those people from coming out,

but prevented that story from coming out for a little while. MTV cancels the show. He stops even trying to do the circuit there in Great Britain and then goes full on into his YouTube, the Great Reset, Mind Control, the government doesn't want you to know. We're all in the Matrix. Pandemic.

And it was easy for him because, and I was going to say this, like, you got to give him credit. I guess you don't because anyone can just say anything. But Russell's whole thing in terms of the political world or even really just social structure has always been, I grew up in working class London with a single mom. Shit was hard.

I was out in the streets because she had to work a billion jobs to keep food on the table. That's where I got my addiction. I'm for working class people. Right. Now, again, I'm trying not to say to his credit because it's very clear he doesn't actually have any beliefs that he holds on to. But he would include, you know, he would say, and that includes black people and immigrants, you know, I'm tired. He absolutely used to be, like, he was always annoying, but like he was at least someone who was, he was a big star who was. speaking out for things that's like, yeah, I'm glad you're doing that.

He was like a free thinker. Right. And he had, and I do give him credit for this because this was a little bit risky. He had that Ricky Jervais thing that I do admire from a lot of British comedians. They're so already on the outside of Hollywood. Right. They will absolutely attack it. I mean, when he went on that Morning Joe, I think it was show.

Yeah. That's one of my favorite clips of all. That to me is like that's exactly what a comedian would. He took everybody down. He took even what they were trying to do down. So he already had this sort of like... All sitting Indian style with his fucking hair, just being insane, yeah. So he already had this like, I'm not afraid to go after the establishment.

I've got all these tattoos. I'm anti-establishment. And he'd take the piss out of himself. And forgetting Sarah Marshall, the role that he played was supposed to be a writer. They rewrote it for him. And half those jokes were literally about Russell Brand. It wasn't like, oh, you're playing a character. It was like, no, the writers rewrote this role.

So when they make fun of that tattoo, they're making it. fun of you and he was fine with it. And he killed in that movie for the record. He was real fucking good. He was so good. So he already had this like outsider thing and he already had this sort of like working class thing. And it's something we've talked about on here before when we talk about hard politics. Bernie Sanders and Trump.

Why is there an overlap? What is going on? It's populism. Right. And I mean, dude, Tucker Carlson, the fucking idiot, once said openly on his thing when talking about Bernie bros. They seem to love socialism, but they want to give it to too many people. Why not more of a national socialism, which is literally what Nazi means.

So what I'm saying is there's a dangerous, like, you can, you know, populism can be very dangerous if you base it in agoraphobia, or not agoraphobia, xenophobia. I got a girl phobia. If you're afraid of the outdoors. Yeah. No, if you're afraid of immigrants and all that. I see what you're saying because agoraphobic people are afraid of leaving their house. In this sense, the country is your house.

Thank you for defending me. I just said the wrong word. I know, but I'm saying I get where your brain, why you thought that. Yeah. So what I'm saying is, though, is he was able to come from a place close enough. That crunchy to right-wing pipeline was already laid out for him. Right. And then when he knew he was going to get accused of rape, it's like, well, how do you defend that? You say they're coming for you.

Why are they coming for you? Because I'm telling the truth. What truths are you telling? The ones they don't want you to do. know about brother well that has to be a little bit bigger than corporations are evil that's not enough and so he just latched on to this he just clearly is addicted to being famous he has to be famous and i i do have to say i keep thinking of that drill tweet you know i take it back you do not in any circumstance had to give it up for iis i have to hand it to iis yeah boy have i ever done that

that he he sees it coming and he pivoted super Super quickly. And the other thing I've got to say, and this is just him being an opportunist. This goes back to Alex Jones and us talking about how talented he is. He goes back to Tucker. Tucker's the number three podcast on fucking Spotify right now.

Yeah, and it's Tucker, Shapiro. No, Canvas. Okay, right on. Okay. Candice, but Shapiro's in there. And then also the Hawk toa girl. And by the way, these people are like, they silence us.

We don't have a voice in fucking. And it's like, they're like, well, the mainstream, it's like, dude, podcasts are listening? to by more people than the mainstream media. Shut the fuck up. Your voice is out there. Spotify's not taking you down.

Shove it up your ass. That's the mainstream media now. They are the mainstream media. I agree with that 100%. But all I was going to say is in the West in general, I think, but certainly in this country, we have to acknowledge,

why are people looking to these people? Now, for some of them, it's like, hey, that guy said something about black people that I agree with. Right. But for a lot of other people, It is genuinely the fact that we live in this, God damn, I'm going to sound like some pre-brand thing.

Corporatocracy, like whatever word you want to throw at it, where people are hurting and they are poor and they're looking around and they're going, hey, what the fuck is CNN on about right now? Yeah. And I don't want to pick on CNN. It's everybody. Well, any of them. We're about to start World War III.

That's what's going on in the Middle East right now. now. That's absolutely what we're on the brink of. Israel is claiming they're doing that for their own safety. They're blowing people's pagers up, launching rockets into Lebanon. And if no one on the media is acknowledging that, and then you get to Tucker, and he's like, hey, this is bullshit. You're like, all right, I'll hear what this guy has to say. And then if you are kind of a hateful person,

three months later, your fucking dad's sending you memes about how bees you're making trans people take over the world or wherever the fuck it is Jordan Peterson's talking about and you're like, how the fuck did this happen? Well, because there was a lane.

There was a window there. That's what Russell attached himself to. He saw a fucking lane. He saw that people weren't being. It's just like Trump. We said it in our book. Trey, you've talked about it a lot.

On Bill Maher, you talked about it. There's a lane there where if you're not addressing people's real fucking issues, somebody will, and then they'll use that pain and that anger and that feeling

that they're an underdog and they'll turn it into something fucked up. Russell Brand just saw it. He just saw it and he's a bad person. Yeah, I mean, dude, I couldn't agree with you more in the sense of like, first off, you, like, I hate when people try to act like you can't care about more than one thing at a time. But like, there's some people where I live, like, number one, they're not on Twitter, right? They don't, like, at this point, you should know who Trump is. That's not what I'm saying, but like, they're not on Twitter to see every dissection of all this racism shit. They only see the surface level stuff.

of like, he's talking about this. They're talking about this, right? And then they'll see Fox News talking about possible World War III. And then they cut over to fucking CNN or MSNBC. And they're like, why isn't Lovie Smith coaching the Jaguars right now? And they're like, who gives a fuck? You know what I mean? Which like, you get what I'm saying.

Like none of them are talking about the things that matter to them. But these, like you said, these people are. They're talking about it in a very hurtful, harmful, ignorant, not even correct way, but like, they're talking about. about it. I mean... Going back to 2016, they're not talking about, like, how people in rural towns haven't had a job since the Clinton shipped them off or the opioid epidemic killing all of their brothers, sons, and fathers. They're just like, these people are racist. And it's like, okay,

some of them are seeing in. But when they see that, they're going to turn somewhere else. But they also, I'm actually been talking about this a little bit, too, is that they, uh, they care, they, they talk about so many superfluous. and ridiculous and pointless things. There's cognitive dissonance for sure. They also say... They also say... They also say...

Outrage campaigns about nothing at all. Like, they also... That's all they do. They also say, don't listen to celebrities tell you how to vote. Fuck Taylor Swift. Oh my God. Russell Brand.

He's our king. Like people... Right, but people... But being like, nobody's talking about what really matters. And then they... But then some right-winger is like this, you know, Dylan Mulvaney.

That's what really matters or whatever. Well, they... I'm not trying to make Russell Brand fans out to be victims. I hope that's not what came across. What I'm saying is if people are going, why the fuck are people attaching to this? And it's like because in a world where nothing is worth attaching to, this guy has nice hair.

He says their book is special. And he's cool and hot. He's cooler and hotter than J.D. Vance anyway. Again, he saw the lane. He was like, look at this fat face fucking pussy. I could do that way better. But also they're not just saying, and again, they're lying. They're being disingenuous all this.

But they're not just saying, hey, guys, Dylan Mulvaney got a Bud Light sponsorship. Be mad about it. They're saying, Dylan Mulvaney got a Bud Light sponsorship. And this is part of their plan to get shop class out of school and get you to learn that it's okay if you chop your dick off. They frame it like that. And so those people do, they go, well, this is a big issue. Because, like, obviously it's bullshit, but if you're someone who truly believes the teachers are trying to convince your kid to cut his dick off

and shit in a litter box at school, that's going to be a big issue to you. It's not happening, but... You know what we were just talking about were World War III, instead of framing it as the American colonization experiment extending to fucking Israel with Benjamin Netanyahu being a fucking European who's pretending to be someone from the Middle East so he can go there and control the oil, they're going, the Jews and the Muslims. and these people who've been here and had their whole life

being like, God damn, man, I didn't want to believe. Even like, I feel like people who think for them in this situation. But even, yeah, it depends. It depends on who we're talking about. There's plenty of people in the Russell Brand camp who don't like Israel, surprisingly. All I'm saying is,

I'm trying to frame this thing out into what we're living in. We're living in a time where people really, really want someone to tell them what's going on. Sure. The truth. And what to think. No one is even able to do it.

It's not even possible because of our phones and misinformation and blah, blah, blah. I know I sound like DJ, but this is happening in front of us. We see it with our parents. We see people on Facebook. This is what is going down right now. No, you're spitting. And it's like, well, they're going to attach to something because a lot of people want someone to make them feel better or someone to make them feel seen. We've been saying that for years.

We've been basically blaming Trump on that to a greater extent, right? Well, here is a cool, hot British guy doing it. Of course it worked. I've got an anecdote that I wanted to bring up anyways, but it actually fits right here, which is my mother-in-law, talking about what they see, what they're getting fed, what everybody wants you to believe. My mother-in-law and her new boyfriend, he's always wanted to see the Redwood Forest out there in California or whatever. So they went out last week and saw it. So naturally they're very close to San Francisco. So they're going to like, we're going to go spend a day or two in San Francisco.

And her mom, like she's reporting all this back to us when she gets back. She is blown away by how much she enjoyed San Francisco because in her words, it's just, it's just not what I thought it would be. And I was like, what did you think it would be? And she's like, well, like, there's homeless people everywhere and all that, you. you know, whatever, like checkpoints, people looking for guns or whatever. She's like, I mean, I didn't see any of that. And I was like, right, like kind of how there are homeless people in Chattanooga. It's just, well, we all kind of know where that place is.

So we just go to the downtown. I was like everywhere, right? She's like, I just was blown away. She's like, this is not how I pictured San Francisco. She watches Fox News a lot, right? Well, so it's like, just. This whole, I'm, the biggest thing that I'm, the biggest thing that I'm, writing a material about right now is all about education and schools and shit some of that the woke

school thing and like you said you're like when people frame it like this and they tell like if you said if I truly did believe that public schools were like cutting kids dicks off or whatever that would be alarming which of course I agree with but part of what I'm saying on I don't get how that works in but I know it's like they think about public schools elsewhere but my whole bit is about like that's the thing it's never where you are in maga world rural America which is where a lot of this propaganda is focused at, everybody goes to public school. There's only one school that is a public school. And like all the teachers there are the opposite.

Republicans. Like I talk about, you know, Ms. Eva Nell Plumley and Coach Ledbetter called us all gay for taking water breaks and how not woke any of it is. But then they talk about woke public schools, cutting kids' dicks off and turning them pissing litter boxes and all this shit. And they still eat it up. And I know the answer is simple. They're like, well, they mean like Denver public schools.

And they mean that it's going to end up going like a micro-stores. and it'll end up getting here, whatever. Yeah, right. But it's just like, but how many different times does there need to be some version of like, not even her experience, but also people like the story of those people who got in a big caravan and went down to the border because they were going to put themselves on the front line of the border invasion, Biden's border invasion. And they got down there and then we're like on camera to the news.

They were saying like, why don't, where is the, there is no invasion. Like we're just, I thought there was an invasion. Like, how many different versions of that type of shit has to happen before people stop believing in the fucking search place? It just happened in Springfield, dog. I just got back from Springfield. I was going to bring that up too. Like, I just went there.

There were some bikers to their credit. The bikers were like, yeah, I don't know. We showed up and we didn't have to kill nobody. Right. Guess we'll go home. You know what I mean? It's almost like they were mad. Like, it's kind of bullshit, man.

We thought there'd be some Haitians out here for sure. For sure. kids that we can murder, but they definitely were out there all just having barbecues and we kind of like them. Me and Travis Irvine where he was with me on a run through Ohio last week and we went to Springfield on Saturday and we're there for a few hours

and they happened to be having the big annual mustard festival, right? Where they give out hot dogs for people. I mean the jokes kind of roped themselves. They had little waney dog races and stuff you know. Hell yeah. Animals they're running for their lives in Springfield, Ohio but

it was like Travis doing stuff for Last Podcast Network. He like does a lot of man on the street. He's done that for years. So he did that in Springfield and I was with him. And he talked to a lot of people, all white, we're at the mustard festival. It's white people. The Haitians

are doing their own thing. White people in Springfield, men who are middle age and stuff. And they're like all the, plenty of them, Travis would try, he tried to get them all to shit talk JD Vance or get into JD Vance or whatever. And plenty of them would balk at that part. Plenty of them would be,

either be like, I'd rather not talk about politics or, well, I hope J.D. Vance just does a good job or some shit like that. They clearly are not like lefties, but all of these people, though, were saying at the beginning when Travis is like asking them, you know, what would you say to people who haven't been to Springfield who's seen all the stuff in the news? They all were like some version of like, I'm just really frustrated and disappointed that this has happened because this is a great community. It's nothing like that. You know what I mean? Like, it's like, this is my town. So these are like Republican people, you know, who are saying like, why do people believe this stuff about my town?

This town, I love this town. This town is great, right? Yeah. But it has to, that's the way they've always been. It has to affect them like personally. You know what I mean? And even though it affects. Your son has to be gay.

Why do you think we're San Francisco? Right. Yeah. Right. Exactly. Right. Yes. But that's what's what's so frustrating about is it's like, I just wish it didn't have to

work like that. I wish we didn't have to somehow affect every single one of them personally. It does. Some of this shit to even make something to start to consider it, you know, because that's not feasible, obviously. There's a bit Tim Dillon has. It's sort of the reverse of your bit. Tim, Tim Dillon, by the way, did exactly what Russell Brands do and claims it's satire. And, you know, if I get put on blast for blast another. I'm not trying to, he's very talented and very funny. And he says some things that are good that need to be said. but he's also clearly like play into a certain crowd. But he has this joke that's sort of the reverse of yours, Trey, in which he lists two examples of things that I think turned out to be true, some sort of like special school in Brooklyn where one of the teachers was teaching kids some very, well, we'll say intense gender study type things.

And then a teacher in San Francisco who had transitioned and I think it turns out was a crazy person. Yeah. Apart from that. taught him some wild things. And the gist of that joke is, you think parents hear this in Iowa and they're wrong to freak out?

And it's like, of course, if you hear that issue, but the thing is, this is what you leave out, those teachers were fired. Right. Or, and or reprimanded. I don't remember the whole thing.

But like, they were, like, but he's leaving this part out. You know what I mean? His is a sort of like, he's not saying this is what everyone in San Francisco's like. He's saying, you seemed crazy if you're not bothered by this. So the second half of the bit that I'm doing right now,

I start talking about the boys public school and how it is woke. Because they go to public school and I acknowledge that it's woke. And I talk about being woke. And then from that I get, and then I say in the midst of that, I say something like, you know, which to hear the right tells it, it means they're going to come home without their dicks any day now.

Right. And I go it. But basically it's just, like, I have kids. They're in a while. I'll tell you right now, it's a woke school. And it's, they're not, they're obviously not confiscating their dicks. Like, it's still, you know, it's still fine. And then really what it means is, hey, sometimes they might bring up that the CIA might have killed Martin Luther King Jr. You know, or some shit like that. It was the FBI and in court, it was found that they allowed him to die. Yeah, yeah. On purpose. Well, hey, speaking of,

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a lot of ways hard like, like famously hard to try and synthesize such a big cultural moment or issue in 90 seconds and be funny or smart or both. I mean, arguably we're sitting here because Trey has a talent of doing that. Not in 90 seconds. He don't. I don't mean he can do it in 90 seconds.

I mean, over the course of a year, he figures out how to do it. Oh, I get it. It's a, my bad. Yeah, he's robust and they don't hit. But to have a handle in the moment we're currently living in, it's going to take years. And hopefully America survives long enough. And we all do too, to read what cultural anthropologists and historians sort of synthesize about this time period. That, you know, being said, to me, there's a clip I saw recently that gets at exactly how Russell Brand can exist.

and then in some ways what it is he's taking advantage of, like how a person like Russell Brand can exist, and then what he did exactly. This happens to be about Israel, Palestine. Here we go. There's a clip. Bill Maher and Henry Winkler are talking about it. Oh, I saw that. The fun is coming through, baby.

He says whatever he says, and look, I don't think I've made any bones about it. I'm a big free Palestine guy. I'm not a pro Hamas guy. I think that Netanyahu used what happened on October 7th as a fucking pretext to do some bullshit. He'd been wanting to do for a long time. Pretext, is that like the text that comes like before the text? Yeah.

Right, okay. Yeah, yeah. So it's in the text in this case is murdering babies. But Bill goes on his rant about how evil Hamas is and who's killing babies and who's not. and Henry just goes, he's a very sweet guy, but it's clear that he's not for Israel, and he just goes, and he's almost like,

it's not even an argument. It's almost like a sincere. He goes, are we seeing the same footage? Yeah. He said, it seems to be indiscriminate. Their killing seems to be indiscriminate.

Right. And I do agree with that second statement. I recognize a lot, but that first one to me is where we're living at. Right. Because the truth is, if I'm talking to my father-in-law, no.

He's fucking not. He's literally not. He won't accept it. He's to the point now, in my opinion, where he can't. But that aside, that aside, understand that we're living in a time where people are experiencing a very different reality from you. Well, if you know that and you're good at shaping people's reality, which everyone here is, whether we want to acknowledge that's what we do or not, we make people laugh. That's an uncontrollable urge. We pull that out of them.

them. But Brand can do that. If you realize that's the time you're living in via the internet and you're about to get accused of rape. Right. Other than baby rape, the worst thing you can be accused of is rape, maybe eating people. You know that's coming down the pipe and you know you're living in the time of everyone has a different reality.

He just got out and got ahead of it, dog. Yeah. And it's really. genuinely wild to sort of see, damn, our best and most talented storytellers in the age where the story you tell the most, if you're on YouTube, if you're on the phone, is either your own or the one you want to resent to the world, you know, just how evil it can get. I mean, we're our own advertisers. So it almost like reminds me of like when the tobacco companies were making kids think it was cool to smoke tobacco to get them hooked on it. It's like Russell Brand the rapist is using those same tactics. but instead of selling cigarettes, he's selling Russell Brand.

And he pivoted to Christianity. It's really dark. It's super, like, he is, in my opinion, a very broken evil person. That's obvious to me. Because I don't buy for a second that he means any of this, which means he probably didn't mean any of the working class stuff either. It's like he just will say what he needs to, to feel like he's the guy that he wants to, you know, be presented as.

and that's dark it makes me really depressed guys that that's that's our defining time of history that's what we're doing on ticot well let me there was this guy earlier the another countryman of his that you mentioned briefly that I wanted to ask about us particularly chow because I think he keeps up with him I believe uh you brought up ricky jervis earlier and like i had really like kept up with rickie jubes really over the years but I saw him get brought up on Reddit recently. People started talking about how he's like, I didn't watch his last, at least his last special, maybe his last two, I'm not sure. But people were talking about how he's like,

he had a whole bunch of like anti-transcient and anti-woke stuff and that type of thing. Like, so like, is he, because he's also a hardcore atheist, right? Right. Ricky, to me hasn't really changed much. Yeah, and he's just wrong. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So like, to me, this is my opinion on Ricky. Number one, to go back to what Drew was saying, there was a, about Russell Brand. there was a famous actress. It might have been Ingrid Bergman that on her deathbed was like,

drama is easy, but comedy is hard. So like, in my opinion, with somebody like Russell Brandt, if you can make people laugh and you could, you can very easily shift into just making them feel any other emotion, like that's a cakewalk.

You know what I mean? Like, writing a fucking jerrymanders sketch for me is 10 times harder than writing an opinion piece for the Atlanta Journal Constitution. So this motherfucker has, this mother, if you have that ability to change, people with humor, it's so easy to just go, now I'm just going to say a bunch of stuff,

and I can easily puppet them. But yes, with Ricky, so like to me, Russell Brand has like said out loud, I'm on the right wing, I'm a Christian conservative or whatever. Ricky Jervais has not done that. They have just adopted him because they've seen what he is, and they're like, oh, he's anti-woke, he's anti-this or whatever. And I'm not defending Ricky at all. I do like that Ricky's not come out and said, I'm voting for Trump. Because I think he thinks Trump is a fucking idiot, moron. Like, I think that, you know, we look at the world in black and white. You're like, Ricky Jervais is making anti-trans jokes and he's anti-woke.

He must be a Trump supporter. It's like, no, he's just a shitty liberal. You know what I mean? He also isn't even an American. Right, right, right, right. Well, neither's fucking Russell Brand. But, like, either way, like, I don't really think Ricky has changed all that much. Like, Ricky's whole deal the whole time has been like, I'm going to say the thing that makes

everyone go ooh and ah. There's those certain comedians, Ricky Jervase is one of them, who they say this all the time, and I could not disagree with it more. They're like, getting an ooh and an ah to me is just as good as getting a laugh. No, it's not. Do you know how easy it is to get a ooh and a awe? All you got to do to get an ooh and an awe is to walk on stage as a white man and say the N word. That's all you got to do. People will ooh and awe your ass, right? To get a laugh is a lot harder. Now, if you get a ooh and an awe that is followed by a trickled down laugh because they were like, oh, this is too much. Never mind it's fucking funny.

That's good. But like they go, I'm just looking for any reaction. What are you talking? What do you mean? You know how easy it is to just get a reaction from people? I could go on stage with no notes whatsoever and get a reaction from fucking everybody. I could just walk on stage in Chattanooga, Tennessee and just be like, I love abortion. It's killing babies.

I'm fine with killing babies. I'd get a huge reaction. Where's the fucking joke there? You know what I mean? But I don't think Ricky's really changed that much. I just think that, like, culture has shifted. Ricky's the same. And now it's, like, more in his favor to this one group of people.

And so they've sort of adopted him. That's how I feel. And by the way, the edge lord. And the difference between Ricky Jervase and Russell Brand and why I would, like, a little bit defend Ricky Jervais is simply, and I'll admit this, only because I respect Ricky Jervase's body of work. You know what I mean? Like, his body of work actually hits for me, whereas Russell Brand was good in that movie,

and I enjoyed that, but that was it. So fuck him, let him have him. But, like, I will, like, Ricky Jervais has given us very good quality, liberal bent entertainment. So I'm like, well, he did that. I think that Ricky Jervais is a sincere person, and he's just sincerely wrong. I think that anyone objectively looking at Russell Brand's arc would have to, believe he's an insincere person, which is what I believe. He's very insincere.

Or that he's had a very strange trajectory. That's one of one. And I guess it's possible. I guess it's certainly possible. Russell Brand found the Lord and got baptized in the Thames River. By the way, literally that's a thing he did. And that's another thing, too, about like, turning Christian. When you're raised up in the tradition, you do kind of learn how to recognize people,

that were like, well, this all just hits for you, whether it's like standing in front of the church and saying, like there was this guy growing up who would always talk about how horrible of a sinner he is. This dude just had a humiliation shame. He just wanted to get up and cry in front of a bunch of strangers because he'd do it every week. Whereas this fucking guy, Jim, gets tears in his eyes still every time he sees me, tells me he loves me. It's like, this dude really believes.

what I'm saying is Russell Brand is so obviously just sniffing his own farts. He's always sniffed his own farts and this is the only room that'll still let him fart in it. Well, that's funny that you say that because I remember like dudes back at my church who would like they would go up and give their, even though we'd heard their testimony a million times. Like that was their thing in church. They would go up and give their testimony and like we're talking about with the Confederate railroad guy, talk about all this shit that they used to. to do and blah, blah, blah, and you're talking about like a humiliation kink or something. It's, after you say it 10 fucking times on 10 Sundays, it's almost like, you want, you're proud of it.

So you want it, you're so proud of it that you want everybody to know what you did. But if you say it in this, they have to forgive you and no one can be mad that you did it. You know what I mean? It's like, they want everyone to know that they used to bang women all the time. But if I say it here, I'm doing it for the glory of God. Everyone will still know, by the way, that I used to fuck. Right. Yes.

100%. It's either that or I don't actually feel the grace and forgiveness of God in my heart. So I keep coming back up here chasing that because I can't let go of it. And I think with Brand, it's more of just, like I said, he's just smelling his own farts. And I think Ricky and most comedians smell our own farts. I think most of us are like pretty open about that. Do you know what I mean? For sure, dude.

It's like, yeah, it's what we do. We smell our own farts. And I thought Brand had some of that in him. I mean, he literally called his last or next last special Messiah complex. Yeah. He's literally dabbled in the notion that like, hey, guys, I kind of got a Messiah complex. So for him to turn into the very, you know, faith where that kind of phrase comes from is wild. But anyway, going back to it, I just think.

that Ricky is sincere, which is part of what's so offensive, honestly, about what he does. It's like, oh, you mean this. Yeah, right. But it is, but it is like, it's like that, uh,

Roy Wood Jr. joke of like, let him hang the rebel flag because at least I know. What's interesting? Bram was lying to us and maybe himself, in my opinion, or maybe he literally got saved. No,

I agree with you. I agree with you, but dudes like, dudes like Ricky and the people who love Ricky are like, no, no, that's what comedy is,

is that nothing. is off limits and you make fun of everyone. And I'm like, okay, well, then why don't you do jokes about how stupid transphobes are? Like, you're not doing that. So it's not, it's no, no, no, you're punching down. Like, if it's true that you really want to make fun of everyone and you want to make fun of everything, then make fun of the thing that you're being right now. You know what I mean?

Like, at least be self-effacing about it. So much of it for so long. And we're talking about comedy specifically, it was just like broadly generally accepted for a very long time that like when the idea of wokeness got introduced to comedy it's like oh there's things you can't talk about like you can't be mean to trans people you can't do stuff like this whatever and then but

obviously that hasn't been true in so long some of the biggest specials ever made people got paid millions of $20 million to make these specials where they do exactly that and now that is the like it's mainstream all the biggest comedians in the world are doing that type of stuff and have been

right but but now still like making fun of like racist or making fun of the Bible or something like that, that they would still call that like, that's still pandering or that still hack or something when it's like, but it's completely shifted the other direction now. And I agree with that. You're the,

you are the ones that are pandering directly to your crowd by doing that stuff that you say you can't do while still acting like, you know, the other one is different. But I do wonder, though, I do wonder if that, if that is a pendulum that will, like, swing back eventually. It's already started in the comedy world, you know,

like. I firmly, I firmly believe, I do firmly believe that there is not such a thing as a subject that you can't joke about. Right. I firmly believe that. But it's how you do it. And it's like, dude, there's nothing wrong with making a trans joke. But when you're, when the joke, when the punchline is, is that they're not human.

It doesn't have to be that way. Like, I've done trans jokes on stage. I mean, granted, they were all, they were like pro trans shit that was Trojan horse into whatever. But like, like, I think you can joke about AIDS. But the joke, what's the joke of being like, everyone with AIDS deserves it? Like, some of these are not punchlines. There's no creativity to it. Like, okay, like, for instance, there's a famous meme that goes around.

It was when Idris Elba was on hot ones and he takes a bite of the wing and he's like, whatever. And people always put this as like the mosquito that bit into Magic Johnson. Right. That's a joke about AIDS. And it's funny. I'm sorry, but it is. But if your joke about AIDS is like, so people with AIDS are going to hell and their degenerate butt fuckers who should never have existed.

What's the joke? You're just saying a hateful thing. Like you can talk about. Oh, right. Yeah, right. But you know what I'm saying? Like, you can totally make a trans joke, but I don't understand. And by the way, you can make a joke about trans that the punchline is that they're degenerate human beings.

It's just not great and it's shitty and it's not, you're not being honest about. I just thought we could joke about everything. Gillis did it. I mean, and I'll tell the joke in a second. Jezzanick said it best recently on, I think, Theo Vaughn's podcast. I just saw the clip go viral of like, our jobs to get away with it.

Right. Now, I do acknowledge that what you can get away with changes over time. It changes over audiences. But that's not new. It's not a new thing that a joke that works in front of all white people in Iowa may not work in front of all black people in Atlanta. and then might be a completely different thing in front of a mixed crowd full of tourists in New York City. That has always been the case with comedy, both in terms of cultural references and where their line is.

So that's not new, but I absolutely acknowledge that lines change. And I acknowledge that for a lot of the old timers, it was like wild to kind of go through that period. But all that happened was the internet blew up. And they just didn't know. We were just like, oh, this hurts gay people's feelings. and some of us went, all right, we'll cool it. And a lot of other people went, I don't care.

And that's all that happened. The Gillis joke was basically that racism, the civil rights movement worked because the Alabama football team started going undefeated. And if trans people want rights, they need to learn how to run the power tea. That's a fucking hilarious joke. It's hilarious.

It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. it's edgy. You're essentially saying the other reason black people got rights in America is because they're good at football.

That's not very cool to say at like a party, but honestly, it's a weirdly woke. I'll bet say, no, I think it is. I'll do this with Gilles

all the time I feel, but I think I'm being genuine about it. I think really what that's saying, he's saying that it, really he's making fun of white people and racist the South and all that by being like,

if they couldn't do this, it wouldn't have. wouldn't let them drink from the water fountains. Right. Because they did this, it hits front. It's not really, that's where it's really coming from.

I'm like you said, it's a weirdly woke kind of joke. Of course. Right. It's edgy or whatever. Of course that's what he means. But then those people interpreted it as like he's saying like, yeah,

just do that and everything's fine. Run, I don't know how much our fans care or want to hear about comedy. I never like no. It would be nice if they cared a lot. I'm sure they don't want to hear me. want to hear me talk about my own jokes. But speaking of sniffing your own farts.

Well, we all do that for the record. The thing I did about Tennessee drag band, I have a 15-minute thing on YouTube. I'm very proud of it. I put it out right when that was going down. And there's a part in there where I talk about how these people claim that they're not woke, and that's why they're awful people because they hate wokeism. And then I say I'm not woke and I list the reasons.

Well, one of them, I got this fee. feedback on a lot where I was talking about how like you hear about kid puberty blockers and like people putting off puberty for their kids because they're 12 year olds and 13 year olds say that they're trans and and the whole point I was making I was like that makes me uncomfortable like hearing that makes me feel a way that's not like I don't I don't think it's great but I don't tell them what to do with their kids right right right and then I got like very educated in the comments of like why it is good to do that because if you can put it all and then puberty will come later if they change their mind, but you can't undo it and all that. And people were basically like, they were cool about it, but they were like,

you're wrong. And I was kind of like, yeah, that was my point. Right. Is that being wrong is genuinely acceptable if you're not trying to make everyone live their life, according to you.

We live in a time in America where people are clamoring for, seemingly to me, for someone who makes everyone else live the way I want him to live. And even the left's guilty of that. That's kind of what the response to wokeism was. Well, Russell Brand just switched teams. He just saw that it was like, man, people really want someone to say,

this is how it is, this is how it should be, and this is what we got to do, and who we got to hurt to make it that way. And you can make a lot of money off that. Well, also, dude, like, I think that people, a lot of the right wing people and the anti-woke people, they really underestimate how forgiving people can actually be. I know they say, like, oh, you say one thing and then you're fucking torched. And I'm like, well, usually it's because the person doubles down on that shit.

Like, it is okay to make mistakes, especially when you're younger. And like, I just have always been like, why don't you just say sorry? Like, why don't you just be like, damn, that was wrong, whatever, going in my life? And then just let it play out however it's going to play out. Because, like, I'll be, dude, I'll be the first one in a minute. I'm not terrified. that I'm going to get fucking canceled for it. Like, I remember like, in this, I mean, granted,

this was 16 something years ago. I'm doing comedy exclusively in the deep south, right? And at that time, I considered myself a liberal person. And I had to get told in a, I sent off a tape to a festival to like get, I think it was limestone or something like that. And they sent me back. They were like, bro, are you serious?

And I'm like, what the fuck? And they're like, they're like, you used a slur in your tape. And I was, and I was like, wait, what? I did. And they were like, yeah. And the whole thing was, I was, I did a bit where I was talking about, I was like, Justin Bieber music or, you know, something faggity like that.

And like, I was like, oh, shit. Because like in my, like in my brain, we hadn't got to memo that that was the N word for, like, it was just like, if you don't mean it, like you wouldn't call a gay person that, but it's fine to call music that. And like I was like, oh, fuck, man. I was like, I was just doing shit and I didn't even really think. And I didn't ever use it again after that because I was like, fuck, I was so blind on that. You know what I mean?

Like I, because like in my brain I was like, that's not how I meant it. Therefore, it's fine. And that's not the case. So like, so I'm willing to admit I said it. I got told you're wrong. And instead of being like, fuck these people, I'll say whatever one. I was like, they're right. We just ain't got that in the South yet.

We're a little bit late on that. You're right. My bad. But honestly, if you just go, this may not have been true five years ago, but it's true now. In comedy, if you just go to yourself, yeah, I don't care about that.

I'm going to keep doing it. But you don't out loud go, fuck these people. Of course. You can tell me what to do. And I've done that. Nobody will care. I've done that.

It's that great Chad Daniel's joke. When you get canceled, you don't lose your career. you just get a new set of fans. Right. That is what everyone's going for now. And watching people go for it. Honestly, sometimes, to their credit, people on the right can see it.

Whitney Cummins did a whole thing where she was like, what are you going to can? And people who hate cancel culture was like, what the fuck is this? Because they also hate women. Yeah, that's true. Well, yes, but no, sometimes it's. I've got to go pick up my son soon. Sorry, go ahead. Go ahead.

Sometimes you can just, it's very obvious that a person is trying to do a comedian in particular. It's like, well, I don't get cancer. canceled for this. It's like you want more than anything in the world to be canceled. Yeah, that's what you want to go viral. Because being canceled is incredibly lucrative and you know that and you're trying to make that happen. But anyway, all right. And Brian got ahead of it.

And that's, he's the first one I think we've seen who's who got preemptively got himself canceled. Rest in peace, Morgan Sparlock, who tried it. And then tried to manifest that into money and it worked. I think Russell Brand's a genius. I just think he's a bad guy. Yeah. Right on. Well, this weekend, I'll be in Bristol and then Atlanta,

Friday and Saturday with Donnie Singstack, and then I'll be in Missouri next week and a bunch, bunch of other places coming up. Trey Crowder.com, come see me. I got Asheville on October 4th. I've got Chattanooga, part of the Lookout Comedy Festival, October 18th or 19th, whatever that Friday is. Are we going to hang out?

Yeah, if you want to. Friday's the 18th, I think, Drew. I'm definitely coming to your show. I got the 18th. Come get on it. Come get to do the show. I'd love to. Danielle won't care.

Of course you won't. Dude. And then I'll be in Bristol, November 8th and night. Those are the ones I remember off the top of my head. Go ahead, Trey. I went first. You did? Drew, you heard me.

He was reading his phone. I think he was gearing up for something. I'm sorry. Hey, I will be on October 11th at the Uptown Comedy Corner. I'm doing comics for Kamala. And listen to this lineup. up. It is me the legendary George Wallace and also the legendary DC Curry, who a little bit of well-read Lord once told me and Trey that we hit at a showcase where no one else hit but us.

So me, DC Curry and George Wallace, October 11th, Comics for Kamala, Atlanta, Georgia, Uptown Comedy Corner. Also, as you're listening to this, I have a new Atlanta Journal Constitution opinion column out today where I was talking about how everyone is so mean and also paying tribute to Jimmy Carter. Also go to we lovecori.com. You get stuff. And if I may, thank you all for listening to the well-read show. We'd love to stick around longer, but we got to go.

Attune in next week if you've got nothing to do. Thank you, God bless you. Good night and skew. Part. Bart. Part in my butt.