wellRED podcast - #408 - Trae and Corey Suck & So Does Being Alive

Episode Date: October 2, 2024

TraeCrowder.com for tickets WeLoveCorey.com for bonus stuff 00:00 The Evolution of Audience Engagement 02:58 Navigating Political Discourse in Comedy 05:56 The Burden of Awareness and Fatigue 08:50 The Complexity of Political Opinions 11:48 The Role of Social Commentary 14:46 The Impact of Algorithms on Information Consumption 17:54 The Disconnect in Political Narratives 20:53 The Influence of Climate Change on Society 24:00 The Illusion of Individual Responsibility 26:44 Racism: A Systemic vs. Micro Issue 29:50 Cultural Overlaps and Misunderstandings 32:53 The Changing Landscape of Country Music 36:02 The Mainstream vs. Independent Voices 38:52 The Legacy of Kris Kristopherson 41:52 The Nature of Artistic Expression 44:55 The Dichotomy of Political Identity 47:51 The Future of Political Discourse 50:50 The Importance of Individual Thought 53:49 Closing Thoughts and Upcoming Events    

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They care way too much, but don't give a fun. They're the liberal rednecks that makes some people upsets. said they got three big old dick said you can suck. You think that's a turnoff for anybody? Yeah, but I think they've been long gone. I do think that. But like, do you think? People left this show in droves, but years ago, years ago at this point.

Anybody that's left is a, you know, a hidden degenerate, I assume. Right. I guess, not just that people have left in droves, but like, do you think, it hinders us from getting any new fans. You know? Yeah, probably don't have for them later. Because the thing is like,

I understand like, you know, if someone in the early episodes had been like, oh, a bunch of rednecks, I'm going to tune in and listen. And we were sitting there talking about the geopolitical,

whatever and how we were liberal. But we don't really do that much anymore. So like, not that I care to get that audience, but like, one could argue that we could have gotten that audience at a certain point because we just be talking about redneck shit. Well, I think one can argue that we just, you know, push all types of people away.

We do. Even people that would normally, we would hit for. There's plenty of people that, like, that won't that, that won't what you just said, and we don't do near enough of that, so they're gone. Right. And then there's other people that don't ever, ever won't none of that, no matter what.

And we still do, do a little bit of that. So, you know, don't hit for them neither. And it's like, in the work. And also as far as like comedy, but talking about politics, it's like a lot of people that are really, really, really into politics. You know, they might purport to like comedy, but they don't, they care more about, you know, the truth and stuff and how things are, whatever, than like jokes about it. And then people that really love jokes. Again, they don't want to, they don't want to hear like what don't hit and the truth. Of course, there are huge swaths of people for whom these Venn diagrams overlap.

and they love exactly that. And they're listening right now. Are listening to us, but it's just like we have really kind of niche-fied ourselves in that way. It's actually kind of related to what I was about to bring up is that, so as you all may or may not have ascertained at this point in time at least, Drew is not here. He may be here at some point.

He may show up. It's unclear to us. We never. Yeah, because he said that. Show starts at the same time every week. We still never know. But he said that he basically said like, y'all may have to go

without me because if I show up, I'm not going to be able to not talk about World War III and everything that's going on in Iran and Israel and all that stuff. And we told him, we were like, hey, if you want to come on and talk about it, come on and talk about it. If you don't, that's fine. It's up to you.

And so here we are. So, yeah, it's directly related to what we were just talking about. I'm sure there's plenty of people that are like, oh, I wish Drew was here to get into all that. And I'm sure there's plenty of other people are like, please don't get into all that. And it's like, but I, me. The bit that I had almost proposed to you, I almost whispered to you would be like, I was going to text Drew and be like, I don't really want to talk about

all that, so please don't show up. And then me and you just spent the whole time talking about it. Just butchering everything and getting it all wrong. And yeah, like, coming from a point of view that he would never support on this show after making him not be here to like be able to defend himself or speak up for what he does think. Yeah, that would have hit. You're right. And my second, my second bit would be that we did an episode of Bubba shot the podcast without him. Yeah. Just. antagonizing the shit out of him when he's already at a, you know, a boiling point, apparently. He stayed at a boiling point. That is true.

That motherfucker is a sous vide. Yeah, you're right. He do stay at a boiling point, but he's real upset about the state of the world right now. And I mean, I don't blame him, but that's kind of what I wanted to talk about is like, I do people that we all know. We've talked about it before. We've got friends and stuff. We know plenty of people.

Really, most of the people in this country are the type of people who, like, somehow I just don't never know nothing about anything, right? They don't want to. They'd rather not. They don't want to know what's going on where there's like, I live my life. I've worked my job. I've feed my kids and pay my bills, whatever. And I respect all that.

But I'm also like, I don't know how, I don't know how you don't. And of course, another factor is a lot of these people tend to be white people, I think. Although I don't know how fair to. Yeah, it's a privilege. It's a privilege to be able to not care. But I'm sure there's plenty of people of all races and creeds who just can't bring themselves to give a fuck. And also fatigue is a factor.

I get, you get tired of having to give a fuck, you want a knot for a while, and I do understand all that, but like, I'm just unable to, I don't know. I feel like you have to be a much. Right, yeah, I don't know. I mean, I always said, I used to have a bit that I never could get to work. It worked a little bit, but, and it's really just because I kind of gave up on it. But the bit was basically like, when you're a woke person, like if we look at woke as a college, right, you have a major and a minor. right like and some people's major is black lives matter and some people's minor is LGBTQ things and but there's so many other things but it's like you got to take those as electives

but you still but you're working towards your degree in these things and there's not enough room to give a shit and it's not that you don't give a shit it's just that when you focus so much of your shit on this one thing like and also people really love to throw around that this idea that you can't possibly care about more than one thing at one time. Like somebody will be like, all these goddamn sweatshops in Indonesia got to go. And they'll be like, oh, really?

You're bitching about that when there's no clean drinking water in Flint. It's like two tweets ago I mentioned Flint. What do you mean? Like two things can happen. But also, I think not only is it just like people are overwhelmed, people are certainly privileged. I mean,

I will tell you, there's a lot of people saying like the sheer fact that people are, people are voting for Kamala, they go, that's a sign of privilege that you can throw aside all the genocide and stuff just because you don't like Trump. But there's also this, not just that, but the sense of what can I do? Yeah, I was going to get into all that. But before, especially where as it pertains to the Middle East and all that stuff, that's how I feel. But the other thing, that bit you had, it's very reassuring to hear you never could get it to work. Because I'm also, right now and all the new material I'm right and I've got.

little part that's kind of like that, but much more low concept than yours. I start out by talking about how like, and I've had bits sort of like this before, but about how smart people are miserable that I talk about how they're like, they just ruin everything with the truth. We all got that buddy who just can't help but bring up, you know, if you're like, somebody rolls a joint, you put on the Beatles, there's that one guy who's always going to be like, you know, John Lennon was actually buried as physically abusive to whatever. It's like, yes, yes, we know. We're just all trying to make the album hit harder. Right. Right. But that, and get into that and then I then go into something like total queer somebody's tap off then I try to go

into this other thing from there that's like and what's one of the things that sucks about being on the left is like you like you have to care about all of those things like anytime a new thing like that could brought up to you equally you have to care about it and it's just so exhausting you know and it's like right uh you know like you'd be telling your smart friend how you started using those meal delivery services, you know, because it cuts back on waste. It's very efficient. And he's like, I just saw the other day where they're using monkey slaves to get their produce and Thailand or whatever.

It's like, okay, fine. I'll fucking, yeah, I guess I care. There goes one thing that I thought hit for me. But like, yeah, but it's like, no, no, no, I can only care about one of those things. I can't care about the monkey slaves right now because I'm caring about the environment, but people don't understand that. You got to compartment. This is the one thing the right gets right.

Like they go, you know what? here's the things we care about, and that's what we fucking care about. Well, I then, I then try to go, like, that should be one of the biggest upsides of being on the right is that you don't have to do that. You don't have to care about things like that. Like, if that conversation happened with a conservative, it's like, yeah, I heard they were using monkey slaves. He's like, that's hilarious. Yeah. Fuck monkeys.

Yeah. And that's just totally fine. Did they rape them first? That would do. Yeah. But then you have to acknowledge. And then I'm like, but the thing is, they like, they still do care. They choose to care.

It's just they care about other wilder things that don't matter. And fake things. Right. Yes. But it's all, it's all, it's very fucking clunky and disjointed right now. It's definitely not,

but it's also pretty brand new, but yeah. But sometimes they'll be spitting. But then they'll ruin it. But then they'll ruin it with the second sentence. They do that a lot where like, I go, holy shit.

I, like, for instance, they'll be like, they'll be like, I heard this right wingerer the other day say something about like, like we're sending all this money in aid to Ukraine when we can't get Flint, Michigan water. And I was like, I agree with that 100%.

And then like two seconds later, he's like, what we need to do is increase spending to Israel. And I'm like, motherfucker, you can't. I was like, which one? You know what I mean? I had been about that for a while too. I call it the, yeah, so what, no effect? Yeah, right. They say some of your group, it's like, yeah, so.

And then we need to give it all to Israel. Like, what? No. Right. And that's my thing that I don't, it's like, it's like, I'm actually like, don't get me wrong. If I'm having to pick sides between Russia and Ukraine, I'm going to pick Ukraine every time, right? But when you say something like just a blanket statement of we should worry, and by the way, I'm not in any way trying to sound nationalist here. What I'm saying is if someone just wanted to come at me with the argument of, hey, you know, that's not technically our war and people here are hurting.

and like we need to fund the VA hospitals and we need to fund Flint, Michigan water. And we need to fund a lot of these places that have been displaced by hurricanes. I'd be like, this is such a great place to start. I fucking agree with that. But then again, it's like they don't mean it because they don't, it's that that money is a liberal cause.

And they don't mind the money being sent to Israel. And it's like, what's the fucking difference? I could argue that that's not our war either. Also, I mean, I'm talking out of my butt a little bit here, but with budgets and all that stuff. That stuff is like defense spending military money and shit like that. If you say, yeah, let's slash military funding and use some of it on social programs or whatever, they're going to be like, hell no, that's communist bullshit.

We can't do that. But then if they just see a chunk of military spending that's going towards defending Ukraine, or like, why not send that to North Carolina right now? And it's like, but that's not how government money works. And you voted against that. Right. Yes. All these reasons why it don't make no sense.

But with this, the war. and the potential World War III, it's definitely not that I don't care. It's that you, that in particular, that is just such a massive international, huge thing that I'm just like. My voice don't matter. Right. What am I supposed to say or do about any of that? I'm just going to, I'm just going to fucking cross my fingers and hope for the best,

hope people stop dying, and it doesn't evolve into a complete total global war, because obviously that don't hit for me, but like, what am I, in the meantime, what, I mean, what am I supposed to do about it? The way I look at it with- I'm too dumb about the whole situation over there to offer anything to the conversation, you know, so, I mean. It also, it's just not going to matter. And like, the thing, the thing I feel about is, like, when it comes to my social

commentary, or your social commentary for that matter, like, people will always, like, something like this will happen and they'll either be, like, waiting for your response, Corey, or more often, you're silent. is deafening, you know, on this. But my thing is like, look, man, first off, do I think that anything I really ever say matters? Probably not. But on little micro things it does, like, here's where I think my voice matters. When something happens in Georgia, like hypothetically Georgia decides we are going to ban

gay marriage even though it's federally legal. I feel like my voice is important. My accent is important for me to stand up and go, hey, not all of. us, whatever. And you too. Those are times when my voice actually matters because my voice is a part of that narrative. My voice don't have a goddamn thing to do with what's going on in Palestine and Israel, because number one, when you hear my voice even say the words Palestine and Israel, you don't know what the fuck's about to come out the other end of it. You know what I mean? And it's very much, and I hate to take the coward's way out, but I will take the coward's way out.

It is a goddamned if you do, goddamned if you don't situation. And unless I felt that I truly had some sort of concrete answer that was going to be revelatory and change something, I'm going to choose to keep my fucking mouth shut because I don't know a goddamn thing about it. And even if I did, it ain't like the fucking U.N. or NATO's listening to my goddamn ass. Yeah. Now I heard that. I feel the same way. Okay.

So that's not dumb. No, I'm not to me. No, but that, but so. Well, we both time. Yeah. But, yeah, still, though, having said all that, the people that are just oblivious to everything that goes on, you know, all the time, I mean, I envy them sometimes, but also just think that it's wild.

And it's like, you want to say, like, how do you even avoid this stuff? But it's like people live in their own constructed realities now with the way the algorithm works and all that. And it's like, you know, dude, you can get fed a bunch of lefty shit. You get fed a bunch of righty shit. Or, you know, you just get fed a bunch of righty shit. Or, you know, you just get fed a bunch of. bunch of nothing, you know, cooking and cats and fucking, you know,

I was thinking, people with Down syndrome and stuff, who know, it just depends on what you've curated for yourself. And outside of that, if you don't, like, seek it out, if you don't watch the news or look forward or whatever, I mean, you know, how would you ever know? I was thinking about this the other day, actually. We live in a time where it's both the easiest ever to know everything and also the easiest ever to know nothing. And let me explain, because, like, you would think you're like, you're like,

God damn, even if you're not seeking this stuff out, it just pops up all the time. And it's like, well, because our algorithms are, show us that. Me and you're political comedians. My buddy, Robbie Lee, he doesn't have social media whatsoever. He doesn't log into Twitter. He doesn't log into fucking Instagram or nothing. Now used to, all he does is watch sports, by the way. Now used to, even if Rob was watching sports, he'd be watching sports,

and there'd be a cut-in of local news report, blah, blah, blah. But now you're watching them on the, app and you've got the ad blockers and stuff like that. You know what I mean? I used to it'd be like, well, yeah, but when you go to watch your television show, there will be a commercial and the commercial say this, we're watching stuff on streaming now. There's not commercials. You have on demand, you only watch exactly what you want to watch.

And if you don't want to see it, you don't see it. So, yeah, dude, it's real fucking easy. And by the way, these are the same people who, at least during the 2016 election thing, never heard Donald Trump call a bunch of Mexicans rapists. They didn't hear it. Right. They didn't hear it. And everybody goes, how can you, how can you hear what this man says and still vote for him?

And it's like, there's a simple answer. They didn't hear it. They didn't hear it. I was thinking that yesterday, he was speaking to a group of people, I believe, down there in Georgia. And he said to these people, and these are both quotes on video that you can watch. He said to these people something like, you know, Governor, Governor Kemp told me that he can't even get Joe Biden on the phone. I guess he's sleeping in somewhere, but he won't even take Governor Kemp's calls

to help the people of Georgia have been hurt by this hurricane. And then there's a clip from Governor Kemp himself the same day saying that, yeah, I've been in constant contact with President Biden and he told me that anything we need,

don't hesitate to reach out to him personally, so I really appreciate that or whatever. So it's like, Kemp himself refuted that and pointed out that it was the opposite of true, but all those people that were standing there front of him when he said that or people who just saw that clip on their feed because they're the people they follow only shared what Trump said and never the other thing. They're not,

they're never going to know. They're going to be like, look at Joe by and letting people in Georgia suffer just because what? It's a red state. He just doesn't care. Is that what it is? It's like, of course, that would piss a person off, but it ain't true, but they don't know that it ain't true. And right. They're never going to know that it ain't true. So like, I'm about to say a thing. What do you do? I hate every time these words come out of my. mouth, but cat turd tweeted a thing that was basically like, you know, Kamala doesn't care about the hurricane thing. She's still talking about blah, blah, blah. You're never going to, you know, she's, she's not going to be anywhere near these places. And then like, I saw it. He had just

tweeted it. He's like, you can't find evidence of her anywhere talking about it, whatever. I was like, okay, I immediately go to Google. Kamala Harris, Hurricane. Kamala Harris. stops her West Coast campaign trail to come to the aid of hurricane stuff. Kamala Harris going to Georgia. Kamala Harris, it was all there. But it's just like, and he knows this, but he knows I tweet it, 20 million people see it. And that's, that's it. Like, it's all bullshit because those people aren't going to do what I did.

They're not going to, and which is hilarious because these are the do your own research people. And I do that. Every time I see one of their bullshit things, I go, let me do my own research. Well, that's false. And then what am I supposed to do? Go in there and comment on cat turd. By the way, this is not true. Then they'll say fake news.

My fucking account will get reported. A bunch of bots will be on there. And it's just fucking people just say stuff, dude. People totally do just say stuff. By the way, on that note, though, best wishes to everybody out there that got affected by a hurricane. That shit was wild. I mean, you live in North Georgia. I flew through Atlanta to East Tennessee.

on Friday, it started Thursday night. And my flights weren't even delayed when I got off and drove from Knoxville to Bristol, like the sun was shining. There were beautiful clouds in the sky, blue sky. It was like, it was really surreal because it just, it didn't seem like anything that even happened. And then I see all this wild-ass footage not far away at all from like where I was, you know, the whole time.

And it's just, it's a crazy-ass thing. But like, no, I'm with you, man. We missed, we got missed. it rained a little bit and the wind blew like in the park where I go there'd be trees down and stuff like that but you know no more than there was a couple weeks ago when we almost had a tornado or something I'm like very used to that I'm right because we live in tornado alley so like me going and seeing a bunch of trees down like that don't even cross my mind but I do thank everyone because not only did I get texts from comedians across the country that we're friends with asking if I was okay but a lot of well-read fans were sending emails to putting on airs at gmail.com there was a whole Reddit thread on our putting on airs that was like has anyone checked on Corey he is he dead and there was a bunch of responses and like my sister had to chime in to be like he's good and they were like oh thank God like he hasn't because I guess coincidentally I also just hadn't posted anything for a while because I was depressed and anyways I do thank everybody

But yeah, apparently it was more North Carolina got drilled. Which is insane, you know, that a hurricane, arguably the people who got it worst from a hurricane, we're in the Appalachian Mountains in western North Carolina. It's like pretty nuts. It's like Drew always had that bit, you know, about how like all the people that don't believe in climate change live in places that aren't affected by climate change. Yeah, right. But it's like, I don't know, you know.

I mean, not anymore. Like that shit ain't going to stop happening, I don't think. or getting worse. And it's like, I know that Western North Carolina contains Asheville and there's plenty of people there believe in climate change already. Don't get me wrong. I'm just saying the effects are farther and farther reaching from this shit. Shit keeps getting gnarlier and gnarlier and it ain't going to stop or turn down any.

And I just, I wonder at what point. Well, people will start to care. It only happens in places where people get vaccines. I don't know if you've looked that up. But if you look at the map, it says wherever all these places where they had higher rates of COVID vaccines. that's where God's hitting them with the hurricanes. That and butt fuckers. I was about to say,

so he's shifted from butt fucking to vaccines now. Everybody that butt fuck's got the vaccine tray. Look at the Venn diagram. Yeah, I guess it's a two for one deal. It's a two for one deal. It's a two for one deal. God, smiting people. No, no, no.

But it was wild, man. But no, I do appreciate all the texts and stuff. But like, yeah, I like, it took people messaging me for me to realize how bad it was because I didn't know. Like, I, right. I didn't know. I wasn't. Like, you know, it rained a couple days.

And I was happy to have it because it's been hotter than fuck here. It's been like 95 degrees, which, like, I know it's hotter in where you are. But like, for us in almost October, I was like, God damn, son, this is bullshit. Which makes sense, you know, because when a cold front hits a hot front, this shit happens. But I was like, hell yeah, it's raining. It's cooling off a little bit. Little did I know that, like, fucking people's houses was getting thrown around. So anybody out there that was affected?

our thoughts are with you. We're so sorry. That sucks. And we hope you're safe, man. Yeah. Down ahead. I guess stop spraying aquanette in your hair. I don't know.

Yeah, well, I don't know, buddy. What else is going on? Well, that's another thing. What are we going to do? Like, what are we? You know what I mean? I was reading about the other day about the climate change or whatever and how this girl had put out this video because everybody on the right wants to,

their big thing about climate change. is number one, first and foremost, they don't believe in, right? They don't believe in it until it's time to use it to shit on Taylor Swift, and then they believe in it somehow. So they go from not believing in it to, well, you know, Taylor Swift's carbon footprint is actually more than blah, blah, blah. So this girl made a chart. She's a huge Swifty, obviously, but she was like, me being a Swifty aside,

I have researched, I have done the data, and she was talking about, Taylor Swift's carbon footprint is like not even in the top 100 of like celebrities with jets or whatever something like that. Is that true? It was something crazy. Like it was something like she was way far down the list.

It's just that the people above her were men that and no one gave a shit about. And she was like, you know, this person like fucking at one point like Bill O'Reilly had been using his more. I mean, this is early on in Taylor Swift's career or whatever. But like they just, focused in on her, but also they were showing the stats of like that, like her, her plane and the carbon

footprint that a jet makes is like such a fraction of like one of the factories that Starbucks runs their bullshit through or whatever. Right. And how like it's just easy to come after her because she's a fucking liberal or whatever. But my point is, is that like all of the, when I, I'm, mention the joke about the Aquanette thing. And it's like all these little things that we try to do, like, oh, we get the, uh, the, the, the, the, the Prius and we don't spray this into the air.

When you factor in that like Taylor Swift and all these billionaires jets, they don't even really make up a fraction of what it is, we may as well do whatever the fuck we want to do, bro. Yeah, no, no, no. That's like, you should never shit on someone from, for doing hardly nothing. I mean, I've thought for a long. time now that like that's one of the biggest i don't know bullshit campaigns or injustices or whatever that's happened on a grand scale in this country was when they managed to convince everybody that it's like

it's on us it's on regular people it's on like we have to recycle we have to consider water all this no we don't i'm not saying that you shouldn't what i'm saying is if they they being the big corporations and all that's if they don't change how they operate it ain't going to make a damn bit of difference in the first place and so far you know they're not so yeah it's a huge Yeah, yeah. Why that, like, we're... It's true that doing every little thing does technically help, but what's also true is not enough to matter.

Yeah, right. Plus, a lot of that stuff is kind of bullshit, like recycling. They put it in the same spot. Yeah. They put that shit. It's kind of just to make people feel better in most places. So it's like, it's just all kind of bullshit, which is, you know, disheartening. Because, yeah, it's like, so is anything being done to make...

No, dude. It's all. It doesn't seem like it is. It's like a Simpsons meme whenever Homer goes to the Duff Beer place, and it's Duff Beer, Duff Light, Duff Ultra Light, and they're all going into the same vat. Like it's just three tubes that are all going to the same vat. Like, I guess my point is, like, you should never shit on,

like if someone's recycling and if someone's using a paper straw, you shouldn't go out of your way to go, hey, by the way, that does nothing because you're a dickhead. But at the same time, if you're someone, who uses paper straws and recyclos, you should similarly not go up to someone who's driving a truck and say shit to them because

it also don't matter. Like, we are fight. They want us to have this fight so that they can continue to be the ones that actually do it and us fight with each other. Like, you the fucking coexist bumper sticker motherfucker has

so much more in common with the Calvin pissing on a Chevy motherfucker as it pertains to these big corporations. But they want us embodying those stickers and shitting on each other when it's like, dude, like you said, at the end of the day, what we do, like on a micro level affects almost nothing. The only thing that we do on a micro level that does affect anything is how we treat people. Like, be nice to each other. Don't be racist. You know what I'm saying?

But even the fucking racist shit, like everybody always acts like the problem with racism is racism on the micro. level where it's like this dude called this other dude to Edmord and it's like no the problem with racism is systemic racism if we got rid of the systemic racism we could go back to using slurs and it not really be that big of a fucking deal you know what I'm saying like the race the racism that's holding this country back is not the papal down here who uh works on lawnmowers with his two big toes because he got both of his hands blown off in the 4th of July. It ain't him not wanting to work on

a black guy's lawnmower. It's the prison system wanting to incarcerate more black people as a form of legal slavery. That's the fucking racism that we've got to be worried about. But instead, we all look at it as like, should that television show have made that joke? Is that what we

want to do? You know what I'm saying? Like, we're all fighting the wrong goddamn battles. It's on a macro level. We're looking at it micro, and we're trying to use fucking people to solve these goddamn issues, and people are fucking dumbasses. And we're all just trying to, like you said, get up, go to work and fucking, I don't know shit about Palestine. I don't know shit about Israel. I don't know which one's wrong.

I know they should both shut the fuck up. You know what I mean? Well, look, on the racism thing, when you're talking about the prison industrial complex versus, you know, TV shows making jokes and stuff, of course, that's no comparison. But I will say- I'm not saying be racist. I'm not what I'm trying to say. People that I do think you can make an argument that, and look,

you're not going to eradicate racism at either a macro or a micro level in this country anytime soon and maybe not ever. But, like, those systems that are so fucked up, they are presided over by people who are also racist. And it's like if you could somehow snap your fingers and get rid of all micro level racism, meaning individual people,

you can make people not be racist, then eventually those systems wouldn't be racist anymore either because they'd have people running them who recognize how racist they are and want them to do better. But, you know, there's a lot of money in racism but also a lot of people. So a lot of people that are in these positions of power,

you know, they like believe a lot of racist stuff about, you know, black people doing more crime, being more violent, being more, you know, whatever, that type of shit. And it's like it just all kind of, uh, fucking congeals together. It's the one big cultural, problem. I think we'll see it systemically removed before we ever do micro, because you know what I mean? Because like, you can't, like, even if all of our systems got put in place to where, like,

there's no more systemic racism, which like a lot of our personal racism comes from the systems reinforcing that upon us. Like, if we did get rid of systemic racism, you're still going to have somebody being like, goddamn that wide-nosed motherfucker must have stole my bike. Like, that's still going to happen. You know what I mean? You can't, you can't control fucking people and what they'd be saying. Now, especially else, we've talked about this before, too. This don't hit for people, especially people on the left of here, but it's just a fucking fact. It's like, you said you can't control people. It's like most other parts of this entire world, I'm not going to say every single one of them, but most other parts of this world. Don't cohabitate with people of other races.

Way more racist than we are in this country, just generally speaking. It's not like this is a uniquely white American concern, even within America in different cultures, cultures and neighborhoods and stuff, you know, like you'll find a lot of racism against black people in like the Latino community in Los Angeles and vice versa and both of them think Asians don't hit, whatever. And I'm speaking in generalities here. I'm just saying it is kind of a human thing, unfortunately. So it is definitely a much harder battle to fight.

But yeah, in other places, they don't even, like, they don't even feel the need to pretend to care about not being racist. You know what I mean? They'll just be very openly racist because they're just like, well, yeah, I mean, you know, let me put it to you. Things are. Why would, why would I act otherwise? You know, at least in this country, it's like, I don't know. There's some shame in this way. You'll agree with me. I guarantee it. Let's say hypothetically, we get a party going. I'm from Marjorie Taylor Green's district, which means per most people, we must be the most racist district in the whole country, right? Now I'm not going to argue with that. But let's just say hypothetically, you get my people from Marjorie Taylor Green's district, and you put us all in a field,

and then you get people from the bluest of blue regions of Connecticut, white people, and you put them in a field, right? And so we're all together. Now you get a group of black people, and you put those black people in that same field. Who the fuck do you think those black people are going to end up hanging out with? Me and mine, I guarantee, fucking, it. I guarantee it, because you know who's going to be more welcoming? Right. My people. My people. Like, we're going to have more in common.

We're going to be like, yo, what's up? Are you Terry's cousin? They'll be like, no, but I hear you. You know, but like, I guarantee you we get along with them more. Yeah, I mean, I agree with that too. Anecdotally, I've seen a bunch of different posts over the years on the internet on Reddit and stuff from people being like, I'm a black person from Georgia or Alabama or wherever, somewhere in the south.

and I just moved for my job to like upstate Minnesota, you know, somewhere like very, very blue state, right? Right. They're like, and now I'm like the only black person in my office. I'm the only black person around. It's like, and it sucks. They're like, it's weird. Like they're not openly like mean to me, but I just feel weird every day because they don't know how to act around black people. And it's like they make me uncomfortable.

And I never felt like this in my life living in Georgia. And now it's just a real culture shot coming up here. And I've seen a bunch of stories. stories like that. It's like people don't realize that that's a thing. Meanwhile. Also, I've always thought that, I've always thought that a lot of, and that, you know, we're speaking for black people here, but that for a lot of black people, as far as white people go, the ones from the South who are not overtly explicitly racist, I've always thought are probably the easiest ones for them to get along with. For sure. There's a lot of, like, cultural overlap and shit. There is, dude. Between, you know, the most black people in this country are from the South. White people in the South, I mean, you used to have a bit about this. Black people love Theo Vaughn. There's a reason.

There's a huge reason why black people left the O'Bine. I can't remember what I was saying, but recently, Donnie said, Donnie, who opens to me sometimes, and one of my jokes, I said something, and he was like, or maybe I sent him to him in a text. Because he's from Baltimore, right? He is. So he's from Baltimore, obviously, big black community there, too, but he's, but he's not from the South.

And he's, I said something, and he was like, are you doing like a, like, is that, are you trying to, like, sound black bear or whatever? And I was like, I was like, no, that ain't. And then I didn't even talk about it. And I was like, well, I mean, I guess I could see why you would think that. But just instead of hearing it black in your head, just make it redneck in your head. And it doesn't sound any, it don't sound any different. It don't sound weird that way.

Like if you just make the voice in your head say those words in a redneck accent instead of a black accent, you'll be like, oh, yeah, that tracks. It's like a lot of times. We type shit out phonetically. We type, we, like, it sounds black and stuff. And I think sometimes it looks to some people like, are you trying to like sound black? or something that's like, no, it's just like, this is country. It's like redneck vernacular. There's a lot of overlap and people don't realize that.

Like, man, they was fucking with me. Like that, I would type that out to you and it would seem black, but like, that's how I redneck would say it. You know, like, I'm not trying to be black. I'm just, we're talking, you know what we're doing? We're talking uneducated. Right. That's what we're doing.

Yeah. Yeah, that's what we're doing. Anyways, and you know what about those? And it just makes sense too, just because demographic. Like I said, the South- The black people are here. Right. Black people are down here.

It's where we're from. There's just a lot of like bleed through. We talk like that. We also grew up huge fans of hip hop because of that. You know? Also, to go back to what you're saying is when they said like, you know, they're in Minnesota and they're like, I feel weird. People are treating me weird.

On the adverse of that, you know there's a lot of Minnesota looking at that black person going like, isn't this why we moved to Minnesota? What the fuck are they doing here? Like, you don't want to. saying, but like, yeah, like, not only is America, not the most racist country on earth by a mile, I'm not saying the South don't have our problems. I'm not saying the South don't have our problems. All I'm saying is, it just, I know this has come up a million times on this podcast. A million time, I know. But it will forever piss me off. It's just real fucking rich for y'all

to say. It's just real fucking rich for y'all to say. Yeah, we talked about it in our first book. I've talked, I know we've all probably talked about it on stuff. over the years. I brought up, we've talked about on here a million times. I've said one of my white whales is a bit is about this same concept. I've never been able to crack because as we say, every time it comes up, it's like when you get further into talking about this at a certain point, you're inevitably going to reach a position where it sounds like you're saying something that you're not. And what I mean is when you start saying it's like, it just piss me off how like fucking, you know, Idaho or Vermont. We'll talk about how racist the South is. And it's like,

this is where all the black people, y'all don't even have, you're a nine and not. have to deal with them. Exactly. And that's what it sounds like you're saying. But that's not what we're trying to say, but it's hard to not come off that way where it's like, yeah, of course, you ain't racist. You ain't ever got to deal with them. But that's not. I'm just saying, it's just like how you can't possibly be. If you live in a place that's entirely white people, you don't even know whether you're racist or not. You can think that you're not. I've met liberal white people from other states who have only been around white people their whole life. And they're like good liberals who have said racist shit to me without realizing they said it. It's happened

on multiple occasions. And it's like, it's like, you know, in the South, it's like, at least we like do live together and like fucking confront this shit periodically and we don't always get it right. Of course not, but we try.

We have to be made, but it's like, but it has been a thing that the South has been working on. I'm just saying that Carlos, Carlos and the 85 South show would rather hang out with me and you than a bunch of white dudes from New York. Guarindee. Right. It's all I'm fucking saying.

Uh, anyways, We can move on to what? I don't know. Rest in peace, DeKinebe Matumbo. There's that. Oh, also. Chris Christoperson.

Chris Christoperson. Maggie Smith, who we will, we can't say much about her right now on account of we will be doing an entire episode dedicated to her on putting on airs. Damn, man.

Pete Rose died to. Pete Rose. Hey, bro. John Amos from Good Tides. He just died. Like, this's been a bad week for death. A lot of people have died. You're right.

I hadn't really thought about it. I saw a lot of people. people saying that they think that Pete Rose is going to posthumously go in the hall. And the reason is, is because all the sports writers truly believed that he deserved to be in, they just hated him and didn't want to give him the satisfaction. So now that he's dead, they're going to be like, fuck you, you're in, which kind of hits for me. I don't know if that was the reason. All I do know is that Kenny Stabler got put in the Hall of Fame after he died, and that

always sort of pissed me off as a writer's fan. No, that don't hit. Stabler should have went in. Stabler wasn't a known asshole. He was just a known drunk. Right. Yeah. Like, Stabler was a known cool as fuck, dude.

The snake. I reckon, yeah, it's what I've always been led to understand about him. But yeah, yeah, Chris Christofferson, that's a rough, you know, we, that's another thing. Like, we talked before about, another thing has come up a lot is like people not realizing,

I've said it a million times when I first went viral and shit. How the highwayman are all, liberal as fuck. Well, yeah, but people just being like, you're like a unicorn. I didn't know things like you existed or whatever. And it's like there's been people like me who hit way harder than me. Don't give you wrong. Johnny Cash.

Philosophically similar. The red of land. In the public eye for a long, long time, including people like Chris Christopherson. And it's like, and yeah, Dali Part. But like, Christopherson was like explicitly a lefty though. Like he's like, I saw Tomarillo sharing. He was more left than we are. Yeah, right.

He was a big time union guy. Like he was like. He was out and proud with his liberalism pretty much. As far as I'm aware, his whole life, he also was when he died, he was, what, 86 or something like that? 87, 80-something-year-old man, you know, and you said something to the day. Yeah. You said something about it being elected, and somebody else came at you and said that, you know, I've seen him recently. And that ain't true, right?

But it's like, I was, they were like, I was with him for two days last week. And I was like, oh, really? When he was in the throes of Alzheimer's. Yeah, when he was on his way out. And it's like, you can't judge somebody. by that man. Not a white man. But yeah,

no, he hit also for people that don't know. He was, he's one of people that makes you, you're like, God damn,

I just truly do not hit. Because he's like, he makes hitters feel that way, by the way. Yeah, he was like, a military vetty, like flew helicopters,

right? Oh, helicopter pilot or something like that, like a combat pilot. He also was a road scholar, a brilliant artist and songwriter, an actor and all this shit was just like an intellectual,

a poet and a badass motherfucker. who was also, you know, like, cool and not racist. Yeah, you know the, you know the story. And it's like it's just, you know, they ever been very many of them. Speaking of him being a helicopter pilot, you know how he got his first demo made, don't you? Probably have heard it, but tell me.

He, like, he had been trying to get in touch with Johnny Cash or some shit like that. And I talked to a. baby Johnny's daughter or something. She's like, he really would like your stuff. I just don't know how you're, we're ever going to arrange a meeting or whatever. So Chris Christofferson got in a helicopter and flew it and landed it in Johnny Cash's yard and got his attention and was like, here's my shit. And Johnny Cash was like, that is some good shit. And that's how that's how happened. I mean, that'll make an impression on you for sure. Especially if it then hits. Right. But

But also just like, if somebody just like camps out outside your estate or like beats on the, you know, throws rocks through the fence or something. It's just out there for a long time. You're going to think like, there's no way that hits. This motherfucker's probably crazy. But it might hit. Who knows. But you're not going to think it hits. But if someone like, lands a helicopter, you're like, this dude probably hits.

Like, it changes. Or at least could kill me if I don't give him a listen. It just changes the context of how you receive that stuff to begin with, you know. It does have a lot to do with the fact that it was Chris Christopper's. because I'm now just sitting here thinking, like, if I'm at my house and all the sudden I hear, and I look outside and someone has landed a helicopter in my yard, and it's just a dude, and he's like, I've got a list of jokes. I would like you to hear, and they sucked.

I would call the police. For sure. You know what I mean? And I would be terrified. But yeah, they did hit. And so that's how that worked. But yeah, no, just otherworldly badass dude. Also, he was the star of our friend of the show, great guy, Earl Brown's directorial debut.

That movie is called Bullworth. You can go, Bloodworth, Bloodworth, Bloodworth. Bloodworth, Bloodworth, not Bullworth. Bullworth is a completely different thing. Yes, that's Warren Beatty, I think. Yes. Whenever I think of Earl, I think of Warren Beatty. Sure, I get that, yeah.

Bloodworth, excuse me. Is the show. Also, I think that, yeah, Earl didn't actually, Earl wrote the script for that movie and helped produce it and got the money together for whatever. But Earl's buddy, Shane, you ever met Shane that lives out here? Yes, I have. Shane Taylor. He's, he's a director. He directed it, yeah, just to.

Well, either way, him and Earl were really good buddies, and Earl always told nothing but amazing stories about Christoperson. All of which would, again, support the fact that he was a godless left-leaning. and then son of a bitch who deserves our respect and whoever that random bot on Twitter who tried to tell me otherwise was can suck my fucking dick. That's what, that's the thing about people, when it comes to somebody like Christopherson, who is, he's a gray-haired, legendary country singer. People don't even use their brains. They just see that and they go, no, there's no way he's a leftist because he's an old

country singer. And I'm like, did you listen to Johnny Cash? Did you listen to Merrill Haggard? Like a lot of these people who in these new country artists, like it's become such a, it's always been kind of a thing. But it's even more of a thing now out of Nashville to if you're going to make a hit country song, one of the verses has to just randomly list a bunch of old country singers where you're just like, I like Johnny. I like June. I like Merle. Don't you too.

And what's funny is, is that like the rest of the song will be about how they're like some sort of beard. drinking Second Amendment, fucking whatever. And the people that they're naming could not be more the antithesis of the message that they're trying to convey. And none of the people that are listening are even putting those two things together, whereas, like, Johnny Cash and Merle Haggard could not be more pro-union for the working man, anti-Trump fucking motherfuckers. But because their names are synonymous with just drinking Jack Daniels and the

American flag. God damn it, they're conservative icons. And it pisses me the fuck off. Well, people, there's a lot of things going on there.

But first of all, like, it did used to be different culturally, meaning like, you know, when Democrats were like,

objectively speaking, the party of the working man when Johnny Paycheck was going to fucking coal miners protests and stuff like that and nobody batted a night because it made sense.

It was the Dixie Crap's. Yeah, right. Yes. It's like, you know, and even Alabama, who now panders

harder than any other country band in the world and proudly so, you know, that line... Daddy was a hardworking Democrat. We ought to get a vote. You say veteran. Daddy was a veteran of Southern Democrat. They ought to get a rich man to vote like that.

Yeah. And it's like, yeah, that's in Song of the South, which is like one of the most iconic, you know, recent era country songs or whatever. And then those same people who, who will be like, well, they change will be like the Democrats were the Ku Klux Klan. Exactly. And it's like, well,

Were they in the Alabama song? It's like, right, but that's why it was still okay to be a Democrat in the South before. It's because they were a Ku Klux Klan, but also the working man part. You were right with that. They lost the Klan part, kept the work. Well, should have done a better job of keeping the working man part. But either way, whatever, it used to be different, like culturally. But also, as far as country adjacent music, music goes, you know, we both know that, like,

those guys were the ones who hit the hardest back then. The ones who hit the hardest today are still like that. You know what I mean? Yes, I agree. But not mainstream, though. No, they're not mainstream though. Back then the mainstream ones were like that. But back then the mainstream ones were also the ones that hit the hardest.

We've talked about this before. All musical genres really pretty much, that's like a thing that's happened. It's like used to the biggest acts were also the ones who hit the hardest artist artistically. And that's just not been true for a long time in my opinion anyway. And that's part of the divide. But yeah, all the people that are the best artistically in the country, world. They're, they still like that. They still hold it down and know what's up.

The only one where that's not the K. I mean, I know there's a lot of trash rap. I was about like, but I think a lot of hip hop heads, I mean, obviously there's people who transcend and I would say that Kendrick M&M. Yeah, right. And then there's probably fewer in the country world, but I think like, you know, like

Chris Stapleton, Casey Musgraves, there's a couple of them. But in rap, there are people that transcend, but I think a lot of hip hip hop heads would tell you that a lot of stuff that's like real popular on like, rap charts and shit, I think they would tell you, oh, it's garbage. It fucking sucks. Yeah, I guess you're right.

Because, like, because, like, Kendrick, like, well, he leveled up this year. But, like, before this year, like, Kendrick was still huge, but, like, young Dolphin' Lil Pump was still doing better numbers than him. You know what I mean? Right. Probably. Because Kenner still. Like, you know, like, oh, sexy red or whatever who, uh, I don't even know.

Kukuchi Pink or booty hole brown. Remember we see? Bootyhole should not be brown. Right. I know, but I'm just saying she's like, she's also apparently real maga, or whatever, but she, like, dude, if you ever listen to her any, every now and then I'll find out about a new rap artist and I'll be like, wonder what this is about.

And sometimes you go look it up and you're like, well, either I'm getting old or these kids are in real trouble because good Lord, this is stupid. But of course, we had the yin-yang twins and I'll defend them to my grave. But you know what I mean? They were, look, dude, wait, you see my dick. Hey, bitch. Hey, bitch. Wait, do you see my dick.

Oh, no, you're not doing it right. You're not doing it right. Yeah, I don't know. Wait, do you see my dick, bitch? Wait, do you see it? It was a concept. It was the whisper song. It wasn't in your face.

It was a commentary. Do you understand? It was a commentary on how most rappers are always like, what up, bitch? And they were just like, I ain't got to do that. I'm going to let my word speak for it. Wait, you see my dick, bitch. You know what I'm saying?

Also, like, dude. His dick speak for itself, too, eventually. Hey, buddy, it's okay. I'll be done in a minute. Here's what I want to say, though, is that, like, you know what makes me upset is that used to mainstream stuff was extremely liberal, like Bruce Springsteen and stuff like that. And people used to always be like, oh, yeah, the modern music is all liberal and rock the vote and stuff like that.

And now the right wants to get on like, the mainstream media doesn't want you to hear this. And it's like, they are the mainstream media now. Like everything mainstream is so repulsed. and like, they want to act like the mainstream media only means NBC, ABC, and Fox or whatever. But the top 10 podcasts on Spotify right now are all right-wing shows. And I'm sorry, but when you, here's how I define mainstream, the thing most people are listening to. Way more people listen to Joe Rogan than listen to CNN. They do.

I have those numbers. I'm not making that up. Therefore, Spotify is the new mainstream. How the fuck did they get to go on with their life saying that they are some sort of underdogs when everything in the mainstream? Now you're saying even rappers. Like Little Wayne supports Trump, sexy red supports Trump, all these podcasters supports Trump. At what point did they have to go, you know what? We're the mainstream.

Yeah, I don't know. And as far as you write, all the top podcasts are conservative right-wing podcasts and stuff. and I'm sure they would point to that and be like, see, because they also, a lot of them, they think I'll see tweets all the time from some blue check idiots. It's like, make some statement, like, Kamala really doesn't believe that 95% of people think she's insane when she says this about whatever, the border or whatever the case may be. And it's like 95, you read that. You're like, they really do think that almost everybody in this country like agrees with them. So like it's unfathomable to take a losing election. It must have been cheating because everybody.

is on their side. And it's like, we're the only ones fuck. We're like a small minority of rival rousers who are fucking everything up. And they would point to things like the podcast to be like, see, look at. Where's all their podcast at? But it's not, it's a fundamental difference because it's like that. So for people who are that aligned in that way, that's like the whole thing. Like that's the whole identity, their whole personality, their whole everything.

Yeah. And they all are like that. Sorry to be generalized here. But so many of them are like that. and people on the left, the left is a very disparate, diverse coalition of all kinds of different people who like all kinds of different things. It ain't like that on the right.

And that's why, and that's why, you know, it don't hit for us being fucking liberalist podcasts. We can't agree with ourselves on anything. Right, exactly. But so all the ones being at the top being conservative, it's because that's also why it's just so much easier to grift on that side. That's why so many people do it. You've got a failed celebrity.

You become a grifter. That's a pipeline. It works like a charm because they know. They get to just say. We're going to eat it up because they eat it all up because it validates them. And that's their whole entire worldview and everything. Whereas on the left, it's just, it's not equivalent. It's not like that.

There's people that like vote left or vote Democrat or whatever that don't have, there are plenty of different people who will vote Democrat who have almost nothing in common with each other other other than just feeling like, you know, that's the right choice or whatever. Whereas on the right, you know, they're very similar, the vast majority of them. we've got primarily liberal listeners who have disagreed with so many things we've said during this episode. No one that listens to the Ben Shapiro podcast disagrees with anything he says. No, unless for some reason he goes against some like prominent conservative talking point, which I don't know why he would do that. But I'm saying, that's like that's the only time they ever do it. It's like if you just follow the script, which they all do for the most part.

they just lap it up. And liberals do not follow the script because, in my opinion, we have the capacity for abstract thought. Right. There ain't no script or there shouldn't be a script. Each thing should be looked at and it's independent of the others. Like, how do I think this should work? Is this situation bullshit? What would I think would be better where this is concerned and it got nothing to do with the other things that happened to fall on the left?

And, of course, they, you know, a lot of them seem to group themselves together, but that's just not how people think about it. Right. That's why I get in trouble a lot. Like, I'll go, and I don't give a shit. Like, that's fine. Because I feel like I, I do what people should do. Like, before, when I see a headline or I read an article or something happens,

I don't go check what the general consensus is before I form my opinion. I don't go to, I don't go to Reuters or I don't go to Rachel Maddo and go, okay, how am I supposed to feel about this? I just tell you how I feel about this. And then people will comment either I agree or I disagree. And sometimes I'll look at the ones that say I disagree and they'll make a really good point. And I'll go, you know what? I've changed my opinion based on that.

Like, I still feel the same way about this, but you're right. I came at that from a pretty white privilegey place that I didn't realize that I did because that's, frankly, that's my, that's just my base because I can't. help it. But like, that's why I've always said, like, people were like, they always go, you're, you're, uh, you're just brainwashed by the mainstream media. I'm like, I don't watch the mainstream media. Do you know how I form my opinions on Trump?

I watch what Trump says. And I, I decide I don't like him. That's, that's what I do. I go, this is what Trump said. Fuck that. I don't listen. I don't need fucking Rachel Maddow to break down to me what I just watched in a debate. I

watched the debate. Here's my opinion about the debate. when I wrote for the Atlanta General Constitution my opinion about the debate, I didn't have time to go check to see what the general consensus was. I was doing it live. This is how I fucking feel, right?

But they don't do that shit. They go, what do we all feel about this? We hate Bud Light today? I fucking hate Bud Light today. And they're a bunch of fucking cowards. But at the same time, that's also why we are constantly shooting ourselves in the foot. Maybe we should follow a script more sometimes.

Because if we follow the script more, fucking what's his face would be president right now. Who's our man? You went on his podcast? Al Franken, he'd be president right now

if we followed more of a script. Yeah, I mean, you know, everything with them is projections. Like you said, they are followers. They are sheep. They're the open-minded ones who are the free thinkers, right?

And it's the exact opposite. You know, they do that with everything all the time. You know, they, I can't think of literally anymore. examples right now, even though there's a million of them, all they do is every accusation with them is an admission, you know, at the end of the day. Fuck you mean, they talk about grooming or whatever else. They, you know, they just ignore the stats with, you know, priest and that type of shit,

abuse in the church and that sort of thing or, you know, well, then there's stuff gets proven wrong. And they make no redactments. Like, there wasn't a basement of a pizza place. Right. There wasn't one. Where's the apology? Right.

You know what I mean? Yeah. No, it's a different standard. Two different standards in this country, which don't hit. But I guess on that uplifting note, as also, y'all will be hearing this on October 2nd, I reckon. We are recording this in the daytime on October 1st. Point being the debate between Tim Walls and J.D. Vance has not happened yet for us. We are coming to you from the past.

I imagine there's at least some people out there that are wondering what we thought about that. For all we know, too, World War III is literally happening right now, and we look very obtuse. Right. Yeah, that's also true. But so anyway, that's the context for you. But listen, if the world's here this weekend, come and see me in Missouri, I'll be in Springfield on Saturday, and I'll be in Columbia on Sunday.

Quick note on that. I think we got it cleared up long enough ago that it shouldn't even matter, but just a PSA. Like, if you noticed for a while that I was supposed to be in Springfield for two days, I was, there was a mix-up with the club day accidentally. double-booked me in a much hitner comedian, Kyle Canane, and what we've done is we've just split the weekend. So I'm only going to be there on Saturday. So you get to hang out with Kyle? I'm going in, yeah, I'm going to go by there and see him. That's nice. Kyle's very funny. Yeah, I love him. You should go see that show instead of Trace, actually. Yeah. Well, I was actually

about to say, if you think you have tickets to see me this Friday, that's not. That's a canane, but you should still go, though. And I mean, you know, you can come then see me on Saturday, but he's great. So you will have a good time and you go. But, but anyway, I got that. And then after that, it's a wild one through Durango, Colorado, Santa Fe, New Mexico, and Flagstaff, Arizona. Some random choices out here in the southwest, but it's going to hit, I'm sure. And then in the future, we got Appleton, Wisconsin, and then Philly and Frederick, Maryland, and all kinds of other places. Go to traycrouter.com. Check my dates out and come and see me, please. Hey, October 11th, go to Comics for Kamala.com because I'm doing the Comics for Kamala show with the legendary

George Wallace and the legendary D.C. Curry in Atlanta, October 11th, Comics for Kamala.com. Also, check out my latest for the Atlanta Journal Constitution. I wrote about Jimmy Carter, who just turned a hundred. Amazing. For everything else for me, please go to we love Corey.com. I just posted a rant talking about how much Rob Schneider don't hit. So if you want to hear that, you can go there. Also, me and Trey played a game of three clicks to Hitler. that you can enjoy. We lovecori.com for all my stuff. Thank you all for listening to the well-read show.

We love to stick around longer, but we got to go. Attune next week if you got nothing to do. Thank you, God bless you, good night and skew. Fart. Fart.