wellRED podcast - #409 - The World Ready For Another Meatloaf?

Episode Date: October 16, 2024

Hey WellREDDERS! This week Corey poses the question "Is The World Ready For Another Meatloaf?" which leads to a discussion on both the food and the singer, along with Holywood in general and the beaut...y standards they have unleashed on the world. Also some talk on actors using Steroids and Nepo babies who hit vs those who don't! Go To TraeCrowder.com to see Trae on the road Go to DrewMorganComedy.com to see Drew Sign up to WeLoveCorey.com for bonus stuff from The CHO! Also CoreyShirts.com for Buttercream Dream, Jerry Mander, and other merch!

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Starting point is 00:03:10 Well, here we are. Here we are. What hits? Nothing. Nothing at all. I do have a question for y'all that I've been thinking about. I mean, part of me has been thinking about it my whole life, but I've definitely been thinking about it today. Do you think we'll ever get another meatloaf? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:03:29 Do you think that like with the trend of everyone being- I think they perfected the recipe long enough ago that there's not, there's nowhere else really to go. I've had Asian meatloves. No, no, no, no. I mean, hold on. I know. I know. Okay. Well, you're talking about the, uh, you were doing a thing that I could easily see me, yeah. Yeah. I can see me doing that and being very dead serious. Yeah, right. I know, yeah. No, I'm with you on that. I think we got about all the hitting meatloves that we can have. I've some different ones. Paula Dean actually changed the game up. I know I'm not supposed to say her name on this podcast, but, you know, she actually changed the game up a couple years ago because my mom,
Starting point is 00:04:03 she made this meatloaf and it was fucking banging. And I was like, God damn, this is so good. What's different about it? She said, well, instead of breadcrumbs, I used oatmeal. And I was ready to be like, I have no mother. You know what I mean? I was like, what's that buddy? I mean, Paul and me had made that famous, but my mom's been doing that my whole life. Yeah, Paula, Paula made it famous, is what I'm saying. Well, that hits, but I was, again, like, breaking with tradition on something like meatloaf, I was ready to be like, you're getting too hoity-toity mom until she said it was a Paula Dean recipe. And I was like, oh, well, that hits. And turns out it is a superior way to make it. Yeah. Anyways, my point is. Go back to Meatloaf, because I already had a couple
Starting point is 00:04:41 dudes in mind that neither of which I think is going to hit for you. So go ahead. Okay, that's fine. I got a dude in mind who I thought. Is your mic on here? Drew, I can barely hear you. I think you were in the wrong mic or your microphone. is off or turn down lower or something don't hit because you sound the mic. I'm just the word we're not allowed to say anymore along with her name. I just didn't hold my mic. Yeah, now you hit. My point is, is like, first off, meatloaf came out at a time when, don't get me wrong,
Starting point is 00:05:08 it was still like better to be really good looking in Hollywood. Now I can't stop thinking about Tray's joke. Now I'm just like, meatloaf came out of time, you know, when we needed it as a country. During the Depression, we needed to be able to make. extend this meat and stretch it out so we use breadcrumbs and oats. Needed something more, a little less, you know, a little easier, lower barrier to entry, so fewer women get beaten after, you know, shifts over. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:05:37 Because the dinner's burnt and fucked up, something that any woman can handle, you know. It's good the next day. Yeah. Pets up well, you can make a sandwich out of it, put it in your little lunch pail. if it don't hit as much as you thought, just put more ketchup on it, you know, be okay.
Starting point is 00:05:57 How old does meatloaf you think? You think it's like, it might be like ancient almost. It might be ancient, but it also could be like literally just came out in the Depression. I wouldn't be surprised at all. You remember if we were talking on putting on airs,
Starting point is 00:06:10 like there's some things that are oddly young, food-wise, that we just think have been around forever, but like that's not true. Well, this is weird because, okay, It said traditionally meat meatloaf is a traditional German, Czech, Scandinavian, and Belgian dish. Sure.
Starting point is 00:06:28 American meatloaf has its origins in Scrapple. You remember, was it last night or not before I texted and asked you off you ate Southmeat? Yeah, South. I didn't see that text. My grandma made it all the time. The reason I asked y'all about South's meat was because Katie asked me if I knew what Scrapple was. So this is a... Now, Scrap, I'm not familiar.
Starting point is 00:06:48 Well, it's, it's a... Pennsylvania Dutch thing. They pretty much only have it in Pennsylvania, but it's kind of like Southmeat sort of in that it's like the ground-up butthole and wainter parts of a big. Processed butthole, yeah. Mixed with cornmeal and made into like a loaf that you could slice off and eat.
Starting point is 00:07:02 I've never had Scrabble. I'm for that. I'm for it because, again, I like Southmeet and I figure it can't be that much different. But anyway, apparently the American version of Meatloaf dates back to colonial times. No, wait a minute. It says it was, oh, Scrapple has been here since
Starting point is 00:07:19 colonial times, contemporary American meatloaf did not appear in cookbooks until the late 19th century. So there you have. Okay. Well, anyways, my point is, is that, my point is, my point is, I want to just keep, take this back to like. I'm fine with it. Hey, buddy.
Starting point is 00:07:40 Dish meat loaf. Meta meat loaf episode. Never get into what you're trying to say. It's all right. I made myself not talk about south meat four times. now. So let's just hurry and move on. There was never a time when being very attractive didn't help in Hollywood
Starting point is 00:07:56 or the music industry or whatever. But especially if you look at the 80s, dude, country music was chock full of them in 80s, just people that looked haggard and rough as shit. Like Conway Twitty was a sexual icon. He looks like a mammall getting a perm at the beauty shop, dog. Yeah, but you've talked about that before. The part of that
Starting point is 00:08:15 was that he was like singing to those mammals and Beauty shop women. Yeah. He was getting ants all wet, you know. I did a sketch. I did an audio sketch about it called Now That's What I Call Getting Your Grandma's Pussy Wet. Which was Conway's Twitt. He's greatest to itself.
Starting point is 00:08:35 But yeah, but okay, but Meatloaf, like, he, Meatloaf did sort of the same thing. Like, he, his songs, like, the songs were very over-the-top, orchestrated, sexual, about the sexual experience. He, however, looked like an anthropomorphized bat with diabetes, but it was cool because he was insanely talented. And there was a time when talent was like, okay, man, look, if you just go, it don't matter what you look like. If you've got a ton of talent, we're going to let you through. Now, I know that every now and in that still happens. But to me, it just seems like if Meatloaf had come at any other time in history, he wouldn't have been such a success. And he's so fucking good.
Starting point is 00:09:14 And I'm curious, are we going to get to a point where we go, we want. we don't give a fuck about the looks as much anymore. We just want the talent, because we are getting to a place where we're more body, we are more body positive now, and you know what I mean? Instead of calling someone ugly,
Starting point is 00:09:30 you just put them in a different genre where it's like, no, they're not ugly, they're just hot for busted face bitches.com. I think you'll always have uggos and big old fat fucks that hit, you know, but through talent. To that extreme, though. Through talent.
Starting point is 00:09:43 But I think that it will always predominantly be made up of traditionally attractive. I know that. So I don't think it's, here's the people I was thinking, he doesn't have anywhere near Meatloaf's sheer vocal talent, I know, but, you know, our boy, jelly roll is huge. Jelly roll hits, it's a different thing. I mean, how different of a thing is it really?
Starting point is 00:10:03 No, that's different. How is different? Like, okay, but what's the question? I mean, I know he doesn't, he doesn't musically, they're not the same thing. Meatloaf was like a fucking sexual icon somehow. You know what I mean? Hold on.
Starting point is 00:10:18 Okay, the other guy I was gonna... Is that who I was thinking of? I can't see that. Sam Smith? Jelly roll is hotter than... Well, then who? Look, I love jelly roll. Jelly roll.
Starting point is 00:10:27 Jelly roll is hotter than meatloaf. Way hotter. Way hotter. Way hotter. Maybe you're thinking of like... No, I'm thinking of jelly rolls. By the way, the comp was jelly roll. Let's stop for a second and think that meatloaf and jelly roll.
Starting point is 00:10:43 These are the two comp. That's so, god-hand funny. That's funny. God damn funny. Yeah. You know, they know that this. See, I'm saying it's a good comp. You aren't having a good comp.
Starting point is 00:10:54 Of course, Fat Mac Williams. We can't forget him. Pope Chop Jenkins. All right. But so many, like, what is the word that used to say it in college? Trey, ontological or something like that? That's probably birds. No, that, or anthology is birds.
Starting point is 00:11:12 He's right about that. I have issues with the question because, like, you're already, you're like, well, that's different. It is different. Okay, but how? Like, I don't know what you're asking. Will we have another meatloaf? Will there literally be a fat man named Meatloaf who sings about sex? No.
Starting point is 00:11:27 That sings opera stuff. Okay, so it's got to be opera stuff. Because that's the thing. Jilly Row is very much in a genre. Meatloaf is his own genre. Okay, go ahead. So it's got to be operatic. It's got to be its own thing. Because the music has to be its own thing or newish.
Starting point is 00:11:44 And he's got to be ugly. Is that it? Is that what you're asking us? Yeah. Yep. I feel like Jelly Row is kind of his own thing a little bit. Yeah, Jelly Row is his own thing. Yeah, y'all are convincing me.
Starting point is 00:11:55 Plus, also, dude, I want to circle back in a minute, but the other person I had in mind, and I don't know much about him at all, so this may be a terrible comp. I just know that he's like, he got a real pretty voice, people think, and he hits for people, that, I was, I almost called him Teddy Cheats,
Starting point is 00:12:10 which is not as tight. Teddy Cheeks? Teddy swims is his name, but I always said, I don't know Teddy swims. It sounds like he hits. He's thick, but he's hot. I want to say so was meatloaf.
Starting point is 00:12:20 I want to say so was meatloaf. Bro, go please right now. Go look at the video for Paradise by the dashboard light. Meatloaf looks like a fucking gremlin dog. And I love it. It's great. He's hideous. And I feel bad because I also understand why they let Earl play him in the biopic.
Starting point is 00:12:42 And Earl's not a grim one. Dude, I did it. Yeah, but that's a stylized fucking photograph. You got to see him in the video. moving around. This guy is not someone you would leave your children around. That's what I wanted to circle back to is like, I'm with you on that just fine of your
Starting point is 00:12:56 assessment of meatloaf, but I'm saying again, no disrespect because I do think he's an awesome dude and he really hits for me, but I do not just automatically agree that jelly roll physically hits harder than meatloaf. I feel like they're
Starting point is 00:13:10 he's cool. He really went and looked at how he's doing. Every day. He looks great. how he's doing. Every day. He's doing great. He looks good. Dude,
Starting point is 00:13:22 every day he's out there. He's slinging like, he's slinging. I'm sorry. That is such a brutal. That's a brutal way to phrase that. If someone was talking about my appearance, and they didn't say he's ugly or he's fat,
Starting point is 00:13:35 and they said, I don't think he's doing well. Have you seen how he's doing? I think he actually is doing a lot better lately. He is. He's gone through the machine. I'm glad for him. Meatloaf,
Starting point is 00:13:46 fall so slimmed down in his later years and stuff. This is post-Sereo Malone, and I think it's kind of hot. Drew said this dude was hot. You think this dude's hot? Look at him. He was like a swamp man right here. He's hot. He's got good features. He's got some better pictures out there. Listen, I want to say another, I said he was thick and like hot for a thick guy is what I meant. Yeah, he's a BVW.
Starting point is 00:14:05 BBM. Let me be that guy. I genuinely thought we were talking about musically because he did basically like, it was almost show tune style. Yeah, yeah, dude. Y'all, dude, I just, so I thought that was the question. You thought he was about to go into meatloaf again? No, no, hang on. I'm so stupid, because this just got pointed out, we all laughed about it or whatever.
Starting point is 00:14:24 But then still, I was searching for stuff to show y'all. And without thinking anything about it at all, I typed in on Google, jelly roll versus meatloaf. And then all these crazy-ass recipes popped up. I was like, what the fuck is this? Like, oh, right. Those are two foods. The celebrity death match we've all been waiting for. So is any part of, I guess what I'm getting at is any part of this,
Starting point is 00:14:46 question about music other than there's not much like him because i thought you meant opera rock are we ever going to get opera rock well yeah this i don't know man he just is such a fucking like it's i can't even meatloaf is one of them dudes that it's hard to fucking describe and i guess jrroll there's another thing that we got to get into this question was just like how different the music industry is there's a band called foxy shazam the front man's name's eric i can't remember his last name, he has written for and with Meatlove. He has been compared to Meatlove his whole career. He has this
Starting point is 00:15:21 really bummed back. Now, he looks like a skinny hipster. And he doesn't have a woman. But his music is that sort of giant opera rock. Could he fatten up? And he didn't make it
Starting point is 00:15:36 by like Meatloaf Stan. Like he was not as big as Meatloaf. He sold a few songs to the NFL. The NFL used to lead in with We Are Unstop. But my point is like, I'm also curious with this question, dude, TikTok is absolutely going give us another meatloaf. Will that person sell out arenas? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:15:57 But a fat guy who can sing and has pizzazz singing about sex, TikTok's 100% going to give us one of those. Okay. I'm glad. I don't know if he'll be meatloaf. Yeah, you can't be meatloaf anymore because like you said, that part of the music industry is gone. There's too much choice now.
Starting point is 00:16:14 Like back then it was like that the, literally the record companies told you like, here are the things you can listen to. And now there's just too much choice. So Meatloaf was one of those guys for a while and he was so fucking unique. But yeah, no, I mean, hell, you're right. You know, TikTok will give it to us. I feel bad about the- Not mentioning Paul Janeway.
Starting point is 00:16:34 No, I actually was just about to bring him up. Seriously, I was. But he's not, he's not a ghoul. No, no, I know. He's not. But also, no, I just feel bad about jelly roll. because, you know, he does hit. He does hit.
Starting point is 00:16:47 And I looked at the podcast, I lose her mind. I know if I'm going to get some real pissed off text messages. But he's hot, buddy. This is the second time we brought J.R. down for no reason. This time it wasn't me. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't even, you know.
Starting point is 00:17:01 Have you seen how he's doing? Have you checked on how he's doing what? He's doing better. I should have said that. I retract. He's doing great. He's got eyes face tattoos. That's cool.
Starting point is 00:17:13 That Corey doesn't know that. that he needs to be worried. That's what you meant. I still think, I still do think that him and Meatloaf are on a general aesthetic par with one another. But Jelly Roll is, he's got more, uh, he's got more, he's put together
Starting point is 00:17:28 like Meatlove has stringy hair. That's true. That's also era now. It is era. That's true. Meatloaf looks like he was posed to. That's true. Meatloaf, dude, absolutely. That's something you can say about Meatloaf. He was exactly what he or have been. He doesn't you show up to a meat.
Starting point is 00:17:46 I guess if you were hot, though, it would be like hunk of meat. Yeah. I was going to say it wouldn't make sense, but it kind of would, I guess. He didn't have a big. It could be a skinny guy. There's a, you were talking about TikTok giving it to us. There's a pretty thick, short-haired androgynous, like, non-binary genderqueer person that sings real good on Instagram.
Starting point is 00:18:09 You ever seen they, them? I'm sure. I genuinely don't know if it's a. a man or a woman or what they're going. Is it the one who does paramour? Yes, yes, it is.
Starting point is 00:18:20 The only reason I know it is I saw someone post a video of them singing and then all of the funny comments. Comment, yeah. Some of them were, they weren't like super offensive. They were just devastatingly funny. Yeah. Yeah, those are always good.
Starting point is 00:18:33 I wish I could remember some of those, but I don't. But anyway, I can tell now as soon as I start a video, if it's going to be one of the comment video, I'm just like, because you think it, because,
Starting point is 00:18:42 as soon as I think, I think run to the comments, they pop up. Right. Okay. Okay. Here's what's happening to me, though. Here's a complaint. I want to file with the robots. I think it's because me and Andy keep sharing parenting videos and we live here now. The algorithm thinks I'm a right winger sometimes. And so it's like...
Starting point is 00:19:01 Well, that's because I send you racist stuff. Sure. And I like it. And I said it. No. But it, like, I'll be watching... This happened the other day. I sent it to Andy. I was like, look at this shit. It was a white dude. and a black dude, the white dude was talking and they were like, are you a Christian who wants to dance to the popular song, but you can't honor people being drunk
Starting point is 00:19:21 at the bar, and it was that Shibuzi song about... Oh, yeah. Everybody at the clown B'am being... A bottle of whiskey. It's like a country remix. Somebody took the song tipsy and made a shitty country song out of it. And he's black. How about that?
Starting point is 00:19:39 He's black, and Dolly Parton gave her thumb of approval on it, and that motherfucker has bought like 10, houses off that shit. They played it everywhere. So I'll say good for him. That's died. We can talk about how much we hate that. That milk toast, awful, just naked money grabbed for the middle of America was too edgy for this Christian couple. I mean, they're claiming they're not, but they're
Starting point is 00:19:59 clear boyfriends. I was waiting on the, what do they call it, remix? Yeah, yeah, the remix for someone to pop up me, like, here's why this guy's an idiot. I watched the whole video waiting on a Gen Z comic to like cut to their own face. That is happening to me. Throwing these people and it never happened.
Starting point is 00:20:19 Yeah. And you're like, why have I told the algorithm to deserve this? And I think it's kid videos, move to Scott County, liking too many big titty white women. Yep. And I don't like Democrats anymore. I think they're like, well, this is your other option. Right. See, like I'm very aware that I'm a white woman.
Starting point is 00:20:37 Like we've, we've covered that a million times. But I still am, and it's been since I've become. came a dad and getting way too many super like pizzazzless women just putting stuff in a crock pot like used to i would get that stuff but at least the person would hit and it would be like oh this is a cool thing but now it's just a lady like this is such an easy dinner and i'm waiting for the chef reaction or whatever and it never happens i'm like what do you fuck hold on now i do like cooking stuff but i primarily watch cooking stuff that hits why are you sending me this stupid bitch. And there's no way to tell
Starting point is 00:21:12 the algorithm you hate it because if you comment, I hate this, it doesn't know what you said. It's just going to keep sending it to it. And if I send it to y'all and I'm like, look at this stupid shit that it, then it goes, he shared it. He loves it. More of that. You're right. The algorithm super don't hit.
Starting point is 00:21:28 I hate it. But it does. But other than that, it's like, beside that one thing, it's really got me pegged. So you're talking about, you said, Meatlo, you had all these parameters you seem to be making up as you went along, which was fine. But you were like, you know, it's got to be opera stuff, right? Well, in terms of pure opera, his contemporary,
Starting point is 00:21:46 one of the FDDH King's First Ballad Hall of Famers, Luciano Poverati, you know, used to keep chicken wings in his pocket. And ate them between notes. Yeah, yeah. I got to be with Corey on that one. That is too different. Well, it's actually not, I mean, meaning like, I feel like opera, they often do fat.
Starting point is 00:22:15 That dude is a huge G. Yeah. What I mean is, you didn't make it in. The fat lady sings. Opera. Opera rewards the fats, you know. They do. But that's my point.
Starting point is 00:22:25 Like, that doesn't, I never would have. If you consider that meatloaf is operatic, that kind of makes it make sense that he's fat. You know, but what I'm saying is. To hit some of those notes, you've got to have a fat throat. You know what I mean? Skinny bitches can't. Right.
Starting point is 00:22:39 In opera, they're so often they big. Because that vibrato. It makes sense that the opera rock guy was a big dude. It actually checks out. I thought you were saying here's another example, and I was like, I'm not giving you that as another example. Yeah, no, it's the fat thing. And I truly do believe that, that there is, like, the fatter you are,
Starting point is 00:22:59 like, dude, when Aretha Franklin, bro, when she put on weight, she went even harder. You know what I mean? Like, there's a certain, that goozle, you get your goozle, and you can start vibrating stuff off that goozle and stuff like that. That's my favorite album of hers, actually. Dude, Adelairely does anything anymore. I was about to say, has a deal still hit? She does, but she takes a lot of time off,
Starting point is 00:23:18 and I think it's because she got skinny, and she's like, fuck, man, I mean, I feel better, but, like, I ain't got that goozle no more, so, like, it's harder. Got your goozle. Dude, you got to have a goddamn goozle. You know what I mean? I don't.
Starting point is 00:23:31 I thought I was going to say, are we just pretending to know what you're talking about? If you want to get certain notes, you've got to have a goozle. I'm just saying, no, I get that. What's the guzzle this? When your throat gets so fast. that you can vibrate your voice in it more and it's cavernous.
Starting point is 00:23:45 Like, I think that's how Poverati hit them notes. I think if he weighed 40, 50 pounds less, I don't think he could have hit some of those notes. I think it gives you a deeper sound. You know what I mean? I googled the fat people sing better. According to Google's AI, which is like... Always trustworthy.
Starting point is 00:24:05 Very stupid. There's no definitive answer, but there's also a Reddit thread on it. Does it mention the goozle? Ben, fat, this is just some dude on Reddit, by the way. Being fat doesn't give you more space to breathe in more air because an increase of body fat does not equal an increase in lung capacity.
Starting point is 00:24:24 You can get that through exercising vocal training, but that's it. If anything, excess fat pushes down on your internal organs making you take shallower and faster breasts. And if your fat is pushing on your organs, you will make sounds that no one else can make. I mean, it makes, it does make no sense because, I mean, yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:24:46 Air control, you, they don't have any. Air control, they can't go up five steps and control their error. But if you can learn to do that, then you have these noises that other people have. That's my theory. It's like tall people, it's harder to be coordinated if you're tall. That's true. It's like rare that you're tall and coordinated. But if you're tall and you can become coordinated, you are better at basketball.
Starting point is 00:25:08 You're unstoppable. Yeah. So I think that's what it is. I think some fats are the best singers, just like some talls are the best basketball players. But if you get a goofy tall, a normal tall, they can't even catch the basketball. Yeah, it's the same with golf. Like, it's exponentially harder the more inches you have because you're further away from the ball and therefore it's harder to connect, whereas if you're more compact.
Starting point is 00:25:31 But if you get a tall dude who actually can figure it out and get it online, he bombs that shit because his arc is just so much bigger than everybody's. We're figuring out the tough questions and issues of the day-to-day, boys. Yeah. I mean, that's all I had, by the way. I had a note here, can America have another meat love? And I had to write it down so I wouldn't forget. Corey asked the waitress if he could have another meatloaf,
Starting point is 00:25:57 and then he was like, I wonder if America can too. America needs another meatloaf, not just me. Ma'am, can I have another meatloaf? My next article for the Atlanta Journal Constitution. That's right. That's not bad. It's time we had another mate loaf. Actually, the last one that I just wrote is about going to the meeting theory
Starting point is 00:26:16 and how the robots are going to take them from us and how we're going to save them. I'm so glad you said that because what I thought you were going to say is and how we need to all do that together. And I was like, Jesus Christ, dude. Fuck no. No, hell no, dude. But robots at his. No, just about how the robots were going to take Mamaw's job.
Starting point is 00:26:33 Fuck hanging out. Dude. I actually made several cases in there for not wanting to hang out with any of them people, but they sort of make the place fun. They do. That's true. Hardies and diners is where they are. You thought it was if the world had a front porch like we did, back.
Starting point is 00:26:51 I was afraid it was. I didn't think it was. The disappointment was in my expectation that I don't be enough yet, bro. They don't, you'll know. Listen, dude. Me and DJ have been on this for a while. Hardies, and I'll throw a diner in there too, that is where papalism should reside. Yeah. Like, being on the internet is the problem.
Starting point is 00:27:09 Yeah. If you want to talk about 10 full hats and which minority group is making your life hard, even though you've never met one, do it at Hardee's. Yep. That's fine. Come on. They do love Hardys. I feel like I mostly never seen single papas solo papals doing this as opposed to you
Starting point is 00:27:27 see groups at Hardies and stuff. But you ever notice how they like just sit on a bench at the store? Yeah, yeah. And they just sit. Waiting on a woman. I guess that's what it is. Yeah. It takes her forever, so you just oftentimes see pap off.
Starting point is 00:27:42 And he can't let her drive. And they're never doing nothing. Do you know what I mean? Like, yeah. I mean, they're not corrupted by their phones like we are or whatever. Raw dogging being alive. Reality. Raw dog and, yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:27:54 Exactly. Yes, they're just sitting there. Yeah. You'll start thinking the worst of people. Just staring into the abyss, which is staring back unto them, not thinking. Not thinking. Maybe they're thinking something. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:28:05 No. They're definitely not hitting. And every time I see them, I'm like, man, is that. But, you know, but I think... Just relive in Earnhardt's death over and over and over again. We're papas. We'll be sitting on the bench, but we'll still be looking at memes and shit, I think. Yeah, well, we'll have a headset on.
Starting point is 00:28:19 And are we really even on the bench? You know what I mean? Yeah. I don't want to get that all. You know, they say that the... We won't be papas. Well, you know that they say... No, obviously this don't affect...
Starting point is 00:28:28 It's my favorite man. They might be Papas. They might be Pam. They might be Pam. She's an inward. So I... What? They might be giants.
Starting point is 00:28:38 Yeah, yeah. Anyways. I don't think that was one of their songs. I never had to knock on wood, but I know someone who had. I was commenting on your parody, not the... Well, the parody was, it might be a pap-a-paw. They might be pap-alls. Yeah, but how does the melody of that song you just did match to She's a N-word?
Starting point is 00:29:04 Buddy, I had 0.2 seconds to put it all together, okay? It's funny too because he wasn't right. You just like hit some little notes and then just said a racist thing. Me and Treyer on very different points too. I was doing this. But what? Because Papas are racist? Yes.
Starting point is 00:29:18 Okay. What? I made that up. Jesus. I get that just fine. This is a future Papas. Could we not? Future Papas will be gay.
Starting point is 00:29:25 They'll be they pause. Can we not examine so thoroughly my ADD? You know, like it was pointing. We'll take your fucking glasses off like a person and then maybe. What is going on with that? Why did that only just now get brought up? Like, what are you doing? Well, I found them.
Starting point is 00:29:43 Say, are you doing okay? It's funny. Now, I found them in a box. These are the original BCD glasses. And right before y'all got on, I just, like, put them on under this thing. And I was just sitting here and it didn't bother me. So kept them on. Still examining his ADD, I reckon.
Starting point is 00:30:00 Anyways, God damn it. He's admitted. He was a B-CDs. We were talking about Papa. Oh, oh, I saw a thing the other day. This is related to us not ever being papaws. But we are going to maybe see some wild shit. Top scientists have speculated that the first person to live to like 150 plus was probably born in like 2011.
Starting point is 00:30:20 Oh, I know who it is. It's Andrew Tate. I already know that. He's 100% of the first person to live in 150 plus. Right, because he sucks so much that God will not kill him. I've been predicting that for a minute now. I can see that. Me and you talk, I don't know where you're going with this, but on P.O.
Starting point is 00:30:37 We went into depth on the whole people defeating age thing. Yeah, right. Did we bring up that study? Yeah. Okay. That was like the entree into the whole thing is that people say that the first person to live to be whatever is. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:30:52 Oh, my bad. I knew we had talked about it, but didn't it, I guess this thing just came up the other day for me and I was like, I know that we've talked about how that's probably true, but I didn't remember actually seeing it in a published journal. You know what I mean? Or I don't remember the 2011 part of it. No, you're right. That part is new to me.
Starting point is 00:31:07 me. I've always just heard the first person is probably that long is alive today, which a person born in 2011 is, but anybody before that's fucked? So we're going to just get old nah. I say not fucked. I say that's fine because the first ones to do it, the infrastructure for the, like, what are they still going to retire
Starting point is 00:31:25 at 65 and still somehow be able to live a full other light? You know what I mean? Like, for the first people that this happens to, I mean, let's face it, the infrastructure will never fully be there. They're going to want these people to be autonomous, robot. basically that work for their whole double life. But like, I don't want to be in the first group.
Starting point is 00:31:42 This is what we talked about before, but I mean, Drew weren't there. So it depends. It's either going to be a like, only rich people got it, in which case they'll, they'll just sit on the beach and hoard wealth and, you know, buy more slaves and stuff or whatever. I mean, it won't hit for the world. It won't hit for the world, but it, right. Or, like, Bezos will give it to all his slaves and make them be slaves.
Starting point is 00:32:07 slaves for three lifetimes or whatever, like, you know, or maybe a combination of the two. I think it could hit. It could hit. Could and would are completely different things. See, I get, I'm all, I, this, I super, super do not hit for Mark in this way because. That you're hopeful for the future. Yeah, because I, because what it is is I read science fiction books. Right.
Starting point is 00:32:28 And some of the ideas in them or whatever that they just make it seem rad. Right, yeah. I agree. I read this one book in particular where humans had like, uh, conquered aging, basically. And the implications of it were wild as hell.
Starting point is 00:32:43 But also in that book, the other thing they had to do was conquer like space travel. Because within a few generations, you can't all, as long as people keep fucking having kids and stuff. You can't all be here. You can't all be here. But in that book,
Starting point is 00:32:55 they, you know, colonized the galaxy and nobody ever died. Well, we're already ostensibly doing that a little bit. Seems cool to me. I don't know. Also, I'm just afraid of death and it don't hit for me.
Starting point is 00:33:05 So, I mean, I'm all for it. You get me a shot. We've made pretty good strides technologically, but we have borderline gone backwards. I guess morally is the right word or philosophically to the point where any type of, I mean, the aging thing, it'll be controlled and owned by the rich. It won't trickle down to us. And the only way you can get rich is, I mean, dude, I don't feel like I'm quite a stical. in prison and they can actually make them serve three life sentences, I'm sure.
Starting point is 00:33:40 Right. Yeah, I don't feel quite as cynical, I guess, as Mark, because, like, I do feel like most humans are basically good. I genuinely believe that. The issue is that power gets consolidated at the top, and we're just, we're just in a real tough part of history right now because every way we would have of changing things is all but obsolete. It's like, yeah, we could figure out maybe how to.
Starting point is 00:34:06 live for 80 more years but is that going to help us when nukes land on our head? Right. People are starting World War III because they don't want to stop killing brown kids. Like, we're in a bad
Starting point is 00:34:20 spot right now. And we're the most privileged people on earth. Right. Outside of the rich. And we'll be fine, but like, dude, climate change is here. That's what Helene is.
Starting point is 00:34:35 I shared your hope, Trey, that we might eventually fear out a way to slow it down. It's too late, though. Like, now we just got to figure out a way to ride it out. Some of us might, but a lot of people are going to suffer that way. It's clear that in spite of the fact that we
Starting point is 00:34:50 know war is evil, we're just going to keep doing it for the dumbest reasons. It's just a snowball rolling down the hill. For the greatest, smallest reasons. For the most self-and- anyway, I think
Starting point is 00:35:04 living forever would be a nightmare. No, I agree. If they offer that to me, I'm shooting them. If you come to my porch selling that, you're going to die right there. I was going to say. You can go to mind, I'll take it. That's fine. Well, I was going to say, if I have to, like, in your scenario, which I fully believe in, like, if I have to do the extra 65 years in a fallout shelter, then fuck that.
Starting point is 00:35:24 You know what I mean? Right. I'd rather just die. But what if you 65 and you take this new miracle shot in the next day, you 20 foe again, right? Oh, yeah. I'd do that right now. Oh, yeah. And I'd blow my brains out later.
Starting point is 00:35:35 Well, how else is it? even really going to possibly work other than something close to that. I mean, yeah. Or freeze your current age. Or freeze it, yeah. Right. Yeah. I'm already too old.
Starting point is 00:35:46 Dude, if I could know everything I know now and then physically be 24, holy shit, dude. Right. Holy shit. That would hit so hard. I just, because that would hit, that ain't going to be what it is.
Starting point is 00:35:57 I'm genuinely asking, why don't you get testosterone from my goddamn doctor and he wouldn't give it to me. So there you go. I've got too much, even though I thought I had too little. I was convinced. I had my shit had to be low and he was like he was like my doctor was like no it's not and I was like I'm telling you man by that and he was like he was like I'll check it but it's gonna be fine and I was like okay well we'll see and then it was more than fine dude the same thing happened to me but I have a thyroid problem and I was like well he said we all went to the doctor like we don't hit we don't hit and they were like you hit as good as you can we're not real man we need man juice and they were like yeah and doctor's like no you're just really gay I got guess.
Starting point is 00:36:36 Yeah. The reason he I went with Brian because he wanted to go and we went to one of them like clinics and they were like they told me mine was 308
Starting point is 00:36:46 which 300 is the bottom of normal and they told him his was below that so then we went to our regular doctor to get like the script and double checked and all that and both of our regular doctors were like yeah I don't know
Starting point is 00:36:58 what that test was about y'all ain't even close to that they're straight up lying the dudes out here bro see that I've wondered I have thought. I was like, I bet there's places like
Starting point is 00:37:10 those pill clinics that were, you know, di-pillus in the south where it's just like a little. 400%. And in my head, I'm like, I bet they got that for testosterone
Starting point is 00:37:20 where you could just, you could just go in there and there's a dog, he's technically a doctor, but he's some shady fuck doctor who got his MD at some, you know, college of Trinidad and Tobago or some shit. And he'll just give you testosterone
Starting point is 00:37:34 if you just say, you need it and I need to find one of them. Me too. We got one dude. Because they told me, we'll get it to you, but your insurance won't pay for it. They told Brian,
Starting point is 00:37:45 because he said his is slightly lower, your insurance will pay for yours. You just got to go to our doctor. We both went to our own doctors and they were like, that's not true at all. That's funny because speaking of Brian, the reason that I went to get mine checked out
Starting point is 00:37:59 is because I found out that one of my best friends who is the epitome of like manly man. I would have never guessed his testosterone. If anything, I would have thought his was off the fucking charts. And turns out he had low testosterone. I was like, well, fuck it. You sure didn't get lied to?
Starting point is 00:38:14 Like me and Brian? He might have. I mean, now that you've said that, you have sort of illuminated me. But I'm saying, like, in my brain, I was like, dog, if he's got low T, I'm fucking at cataclysmic. Like, I'm about to die from not having none. And you know what I mean? And turns out, no, they were like, dude, you got a shit ton.
Starting point is 00:38:32 Like, have you seen the top of your head? That's why that is. the size of your balls. And yeah, everything about you. But, you know, and he was like,
Starting point is 00:38:40 yeah, I would have never thought yours was low. Maybe like now, I guess. Well, again, I'm only, I only have myself to compare to a man who they said,
Starting point is 00:38:48 you know what I mean? And I was, and he was like, man, it's been great ever since I got that figured out. Like, I'm getting cut quicker and it's staying on. And I was like,
Starting point is 00:38:55 oh, that's all I, that's all it's been this whole time. Oh. Right. Because, I mean, I get why people feel like,
Starting point is 00:39:02 but it really is like, it's not like, that guy's tough and got big muscles. He must have high tea. He did at some point when he built the muscles going through puberty. But now it really is like, are you bald? Yeah, right. Do you have a lot of fat on your tities?
Starting point is 00:39:19 Like more so than other parts of your body? Maybe you do have a low tithe. Like it's the, the muscle thing, this is the saddest part of the whole argument I was making is that like, because that wasn't the answer. Basically like a few months ago, I tried to replicate a thing that I did in my late 20s,
Starting point is 00:39:38 this heavy lifting routine that I followed and taking creatine and all this shit. And in my late 20s, it worked really well. I bulked up bigger than I've ever been in my life around that time. And then Katie had another baby or some shit. And then that just, you know, whatever that was that. But I tried to replicate that recently after I had lost a bunch of weight. I tried to do that, trying to build some muscle. And literally, all that happened was that I just got fat as fuck again.
Starting point is 00:40:06 Like that's it. I didn't get no stronger, no, no muscle mass. I mean, maybe a little bit. Just wasted your time. Just wasted everything.
Starting point is 00:40:16 Every bit of progress I've made, ruined it, wiped the slate clean. And it was hard. Just fatted back up almost overnight. So, so I was like, in my head,
Starting point is 00:40:30 I was like, well, this can't be. You know, and I, like, told the doctor that I was like, I was like, I literally did the exact same thing I did before and it worked before and it didn't. I don't, you know, I think it's my testosterone. He was like, not, you know,
Starting point is 00:40:42 you're not, you know, you're older now. You don't hit. You know, whatever. It's, I wish he would have said to you. I wish he would have said to you, because this is, this is, I think, the answer. And I could be wrong. But me and Brian looked into it. Our buddy Austin's on it. Anyway, it doesn't matter. I think it is your testosterone. It's just that. The number for you now and what's normal is way different than when you're in your 20s and you don't want to be that guy. That's probably true. There's the reason those dudes are intolerable most of them in our 20s. It's like, and also it's kind of bad for your heart to be that high this late in the game.
Starting point is 00:41:22 I could be wrong, but I think what he should have said is it is your testosterone, but it's not low. You shouldn't be that guy anymore. Yeah. Do low resistance bands, motherfucker. Don't, yeah, don't be, you know, drinking creotin and pushing heavy weight. Yeah, it was stupid. I don't know. But you can find that if you want it, dog.
Starting point is 00:41:41 I mean, if you want to get out here, if you want to bring the chin strap back, we can make it happen. Maybe not in California, but just come home, get to get it yourself. You got to learn how to do your own injection. What about gear? Where are you at on that? I did. You did it?
Starting point is 00:41:55 I did. Yeah, I took a cycle of pills, but, dude, I didn't, like, I didn't. like, I mean, I was like, he didn't work out. Yeah, this was like, like, early in my 20s. And I was like, yeah, I'm about to go hit the, and I just kept forgetting every day. So I just got fat as fuck. Yeah, I just, I just swelled up. And he'll do, you know.
Starting point is 00:42:11 Yeah, I was like, well, and I was like, I'll go work out. Yeah, go ahead. And then I'd keep forgetting to do it. And so, yeah, I just did a whole cycle and just got real fat and was like nervous all the time. Basically what I just did, except without the steroids. But yeah, pretty much what happened. He was Mexican shit in a 10, in an aluminum full. But this shit was so illegal.
Starting point is 00:42:30 It was extra illegal. I would absolutely not do gear. But if I was 22 or again and knew what I know now, I might be tempted to do a cycle then when it's slightly less hard on your body. Because I just found this out like last year. I don't know if you guys knew this, you probably did. I'd never looked into it or whatever. But if you do a cycle and you work out hard and you get ripped,
Starting point is 00:42:56 that's like in your muscles now. Right. I'd heard that. So, like, you can easily, more easily get back to it. If I had known, oh, oh, it kind of lasts forever. Yeah. Yeah, I might have. Now I won't. I don't, like, I have a, I clearly have an ego.
Starting point is 00:43:13 Look at my fucking haircut. Dude. Not enough of one to, like, risk that, but I might have them. I've heard several wrestlers talking about, like, obviously they were doing steroids illegally and they weren't supposed to do them, and therefore they were going insane on them. But, like, a lot of people were talking about, like, if you were doing, steroids under a doctor's supervision and you were doing the correct amount and treating everything right. They're like, it's no more worse than any of the other shit you're putting your body.
Starting point is 00:43:38 The problem is that these dudes aren't allowed to do it. So they jam a dirty needle in their goddamn ass and they don't know how much they're putting in there and yada yada. He's like, but realistically, steroids are more for recovery than anything. It's like being able to, the steroids help you work out hardcore and then your muscles recover so you can then do it again quicker than say if me and you were just to go to a full body workout, we would be dead for two fucking days. You know what I mean? But like with anything, most people that do anything, they go fucking overboard. Yeah, I think that all that makes sense. I mean, it really, really screws up your, I'm going to say the word line. What's the system? It's not your, there's your heart
Starting point is 00:44:18 system, there's your brain system. Central and ever system? Yeah, but what's the one that's your limbic system? I think it's that one that really messes it up. And in, in doctor's, Indicrine. Indicrine. Indicrine system. It messes that up. That's like... That's like... That's like...
Starting point is 00:44:33 It's like... It's like... Yeah. Oh, bro. Yeah. I mean, again, a lot of them... What the fuck is the limbic system? It's definitely the thing.
Starting point is 00:44:40 That's how they put books in the library. Right? Yeah. No, it... No, it's your... It's your... It's brain mess. Don't...
Starting point is 00:44:51 How's that not? Brain structures... How's that not your central nervous? You heard of the... It's not the central nervous system. I was going to say, like, you called it. You said there's, you know, the heart system and the brain system, but that's, you know, there's different words for that.
Starting point is 00:45:04 And the brain got a bunch of different things. Right. The limbic system is the part that includes the amygdala. You know about that? Yeah. Your amygdala. Controls like fear and shit. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:45:17 Anyway, your limbic system support a variety of functions, including emotions, behavior, long-term memory, and olfaction, which is smelling stuff. Yeah. So pretty important. But yeah, endocrine system is the hormone thing that you're thinking of, I believe. None of mine had. Roids do a huge number on that.
Starting point is 00:45:37 And for that reason, I mean, dude, you just, like, what? I honestly, and this is, I might like regret this when I'm 50, not this specific thing, but this general outlook. To me, I'm like, oh, no, I just feel too stupid. I would feel way too lame. I would want no one to know. No. It's one of them things where unless you have a job that, like,
Starting point is 00:46:00 you kind of need, you know, like, you're in sports or something. Like, but if you're a regular human being, you should not fucking do that shit. You know what I mean? Like, I understand. We're just arguably have a job like that, sort of, kind of. Yeah. Okay, okay. And I think that if we got cast in a Marvel movie, it would be fine for us to do steroids.
Starting point is 00:46:18 I 100% believe, do a cycle, do the fucking movie. Come up. I believe that. But I'm saying if you're a single movie. normal person. You can look good. You can look good enough without that shit and not put it in your body.
Starting point is 00:46:30 Do you think people or just admit that they do it or do you understand why they don't? I would. I understand why they don't. I guess I do, but I would just be forthright. Just because I would know people would know and I'd be like. You don't think they probably probably also
Starting point is 00:46:43 the powers that be would be like, hey, don't, you can't do that. Well, if the powers that be told me not to, obviously I wouldn't. You're going to hook you up with it. You're going to hook you up with it. And then they're probably going to be like, hey, you can't. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:53 Well. got a lie on all these podcasts. And say you're eating egg whites. Yeah. Well, if the mouse told me not to say it, I wouldn't say shit. I'm saying if it was up to me, like just my personal, like, um, uh, ego or whatever, I would, I would have no problem just being like, dude, I'm on the juice. Like, because I would assume that everybody thought I was anyways.
Starting point is 00:47:13 And so why I try to look like, I mean, look, I'm on the juice, you know. Just like if I, when I finally get my hair plugs, which will happen, I won't, I mean, dude, I won't have, people will know that I did it because they've seen me bald. but like if that wasn't the case, I wouldn't have a problem being like, yo, I worked hard, I spent the money,
Starting point is 00:47:27 I got hair now, I don't give a fuck. Like, either way, I got it. I get what people don't, though, because it's like morally,
Starting point is 00:47:33 um, repugnant to people because it's dangerous. It's like people go, and I don't know if this is fair or not, but people go like, oh, you put the way you look above your family or whatever, because people think it's as risky as it was in the 80s with the wrestlers or whatever.
Starting point is 00:47:50 And so I just get not dealing with that. To me, it's like any type of sin that you do. Like, I don't judge you if you don't want people to know you do drugs and you're a grown-up. I don't care that people know that I do drugs, but I'm a stand-up comic and kind of an asshole. You know what I mean? Yeah, I guess that's, I mean, my brain is clouded by, it doesn't matter what I say about myself. It's always going to be taken as a joke and who really gives a fuck. Like, if I was a normal human, maybe I wouldn't.
Starting point is 00:48:15 But with steroid, I mean, I don't disagree with anything you just said to her. I'm just saying it's not, I don't think. it's not really the same thing as just like doing drugs for fun or hitting or whatever because it it does have an effect on people when you know like whatever young dudes and shit I mean I feel like most people do know the reality now but like you know young dipshits may not realize that like you know that they're taking these things to look the way that they do you know what I'm saying and then when they lie and say that they're not doing that yeah A 14-year-old kid doesn't know that he can't just eat a bunch of broccoli, you know,
Starting point is 00:48:57 and run a lot and look like that. And then he'll hate himself or whatever I'm saying. Well, Camel Nangiani, like when he did the internals or whatever, like, he was very upfront about, he's like, by the way, no, not everyone can just look like this. He's like, I've had a lot of help. He's like, I got hired by Marvel and my job has been to make my body hit. He's like, I didn't have to go to do this other thing. He's like, I'm able to put eight hours a day in at the gym if I need to, all this shit.
Starting point is 00:49:29 He's like, so like, please don't let anybody tell. Yeah. Sure. But I'm just saying at least he was like not doing the whole like anybody, as long as you discipline yourself. I think that is the reason that some of them give that answer is because of like what I'm saying. It's because they like, they realize that that it's unrealistic standards or whatever. and they're trying to combat that while still not saying,
Starting point is 00:49:55 yes, I'm on steroids. They totally are absolutely on steroids. Yeah, right. But I couldn't make that argument about most things people keep secret, I think. Don't you think it's fair to say, like, so drugs as one example, if we are all shameful about the fact,
Starting point is 00:50:11 like if I'm quiet and ashamed about the fact that I take Molly at festivals or whatever, I'm not saying that'll hurt somebody, but it might make somebody think, oh, I can't talk about drugs, and then what does that lead to? The shame cycle, sure, but also just ignorance about what they are, what they do, what they don't do. A better example is sex.
Starting point is 00:50:34 I mean, you can go from anything from, like, people who are in the closet, and it's like, I get why, if you live in the South and you're afraid the community is going to ridicule you. But by doing that, you are saying to kids who are also, and I'm not saying it's your responsibility to make those kids to say. I'm just saying that those. Those secrets, I agree with you that that secret can hurt somebody, but like, there's a questionnaire of like, well, whose job is it to make the world feel like this shit's normal?
Starting point is 00:50:59 Is it yours? I mean, maybe it is. I don't know. But I just think that applies to everything. I mean, I didn't think this, but it would have been funny if you were like, you're like, yeah, that's kind of the same way with all drugs, you know, like, a kid looks at a dude on steroids and it's like, oh, I could be that ripped and they don't know that need drugs. And I thought you were going to be like, you know, like, if I'm at a festival hitting real hard and some kid saves me, it's like, I could be that fucking. cool. I can't be that cool. He doesn't know that. You can. He can't because I've got a drug that
Starting point is 00:51:24 makes me that cool in me. Like a dude on cocaine, he's like, I could have ideas. I could have a million ideas. And tell them to everybody, even if they didn't want to hear it. Yeah. The next level of that joke is what you were just talking about where the people lie, you know. Yeah. Like, no, I'm not on steroids. This is hard work. No, dude. I'm not on Molly. I'm this fun. I'm just rad. This is me, dude. I had. Yeah. Like, I'm able to be this charming. even if I'm not, I don't give a fuck about it all the time because I did therapy. No, you didn't. Yeah, that's part of that too, where it's sort of similar to that why NEPO babies are
Starting point is 00:52:00 constantly talking about how hard they worked and shit. It's sort of a similar thing too. Like, people really don't, in this industry, and again, like you said, maybe they're genuinely not allowed to talk about it, but like people don't want to ever act like they took any fucking shortcut or had any help in making them hit. They want to make sure that you know, oh, no, it's just the, I'm not a piece of shit like you. And I woke up at 4 o'clock in the morning.
Starting point is 00:52:23 And I did blah, blah, blah, blah. No, no, no. Is a listen, anybody could be me as long as you did this, this, this. And it's just like, that's not true. No, not at all. I hate that shit so much. And you're right. And quit it.
Starting point is 00:52:37 And I've just never been like, I'm, I like, I just like being open about, you know, when you get help and shit hits. And so when people, you know, when people who hit, keep it real on that front. I always love that. Bo Burnham had a thing that went viral once where he was talking about that on some panel appearance on a late night show. It was on the green room with Paul Provenza.
Starting point is 00:52:57 No, it was after that. I think he was on, he was sitting on the, it was on a late night show, I think, because it was when he was talking about how I guess Taylor Swift had just posted something or did something publicly that was like, you know, you just work hard and follow your dreams or whatever.
Starting point is 00:53:15 And Bo Burtum was just talking about how utterly absurd that is. And it's just not at all true. And he's like, but me, even me, me, telling someone, you know, just work hard and follow your dreams is like telling them to play the lottery, basically. Right. I mean, you still do. You're like, sell your house and spend it all on scratchoffs, you know. Like, you still do have to work hard. True.
Starting point is 00:53:36 Like, but that's not the only thing that happened. You know what I mean? That's not. Because if that was the only thing that happened, Dale Jones would be the most famous comedian in the goddamn world right now. I've said it a million times. Like, it's not just it's your hard work. it's where you were at a place and time and blah, blah, blah. And, like, just fucking be appreciative of that shit, man.
Starting point is 00:53:54 Like, be appreciative and acknowledge it. There's no, there's no crime in being like, man, I got super lucky. Luckily, my hard work and luck met at the same time, which is called opportunity. You know what I mean? Or when hard work and opportunity meet, that's luck or whatever the, whatever version of that you want to say. Like, no one denies that you don't work your fucking ass off, but let's not act like the guy that didn't make it don't. You know what I mean? Curtis got like all the flowers thrown at her for just acknowledging it.
Starting point is 00:54:24 That's literally all you got to do. Yeah, she literally was just like, yeah, my, listen, I had a lot of advantages. My first movie was Halloween because of my parents, but then I hit. Well, she said, when I go in those rooms, I've got to nail it, but a lot of people don't get in those rooms. I know that. Right. Of course. That's the most honest way you can say that. It's like, yeah, man, what's the dude, Spicoli?
Starting point is 00:54:46 What's his fucking name? Milk. Sean Penn. Sean Penn's dad is a producer. That is why he got these roles. But he hit at him is why he had a career. Plenty of producers' kids faded. Yes, of course.
Starting point is 00:54:59 You do. Dude, we've been, like, no one's denying that you hit. You have to fucking hit. Or you will, you will, in some way,
Starting point is 00:55:05 go away. But, yeah, like you said, I got in this room because of X. You know what I mean? Sometimes that's like people don't hit. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:55:14 there's like a few examples. I'm just saying the two that, the two. I don't get her at all. Who? Is it Moira Rooney? No, Rooney Mara. Rooney Mara. We've talked, we've had this exact conversation on here before. They're not as big as the two people we have.
Starting point is 00:55:28 But the thing is, they're not as big. Like, Sean Penn and Jamie Lee Curtis are fucking, their careers are huge. They have, they both, they, the Mara sisters both had a moment where it looked like they were about to be hot shit. And I don't know if they were. Rooney Mara was in the American version of the girl with a dragon tattoo with Daniel Craig and those Brian Williams
Starting point is 00:55:49 was a big thing and then Kate Mara was the female lead and House of Cards when it was huge biggest thing going but then yeah then they both
Starting point is 00:55:59 you know I don't know what they've been doing like I'm sure they're still working but they're not let's say it women don't have a shelf life in this industry even if you have
Starting point is 00:56:06 you know who they're fucking I mean well really I mean it definitely I mean they're not they're fine I don't mean they're hot
Starting point is 00:56:14 they're not Hollywood Nepo babies is what I'm saying do you know who they are. Yeah. The girls name it, not just the Steelers.
Starting point is 00:56:24 The owner of the Steelers is the Rooney family. And the owner of the New York Giants is the Mara family. My God. Why that girl's name is Rooney Mara. It's because her grandparents on each side on the New York Giants and the Pittsburgh Steelers. And so does Kate's, obviously, because
Starting point is 00:56:40 Kate's your sister. But, you know, that's not highly wood, but that's like American royalty. Yeah. Well, the Steelers, the one of the best run organizations. No, I don't. Yeah. Not even close.
Starting point is 00:56:50 Giants, they suck, but the Steelers are legit. I hate them, but they're, right. But they do always hang around. Yeah, but, like, you know, I, again, like, Jamie Lee Curtis, bro, like, Jamie Lee Lee Curtis, no one's ever deserved an award more than she did for seven fishes. You know what I mean? Like, she fucking rules. But, like, yeah, she wouldn't.
Starting point is 00:57:12 Trade's right. We've done this before. That's my bad. I got us. It's okay. It's always a good time. It's always a good idea to. put women in their goddamn place on this show, three white men.
Starting point is 00:57:22 Do you know Kara Delavine is? I don't know how to say her name right. Yeah. She's come up on her. She, I don't think she's specific. We haven't shit on her specifically. I don't think so we can do that now. Let's do it.
Starting point is 00:57:31 Yeah. Who's that? She don't hit. I got to go. You got to shit on her. Go ahead. No, Cho, she was the enchantress. What?
Starting point is 00:57:43 I'm sorry. Come see you at Chattanooga. This Friday, everybody. that's Yeah, that's right. Yeah, go see Drew. Lookout Comedy Festival.com.
Starting point is 00:57:56 That's going to fuck something up. I actually I said she don't hit, but there is this one. Who is she? What's she been in it? Okay, so she's an English model,
Starting point is 00:58:09 an actress, she was the enchantress or whatever in the awful suicide squad movie that came out. I didn't see that one. Yeah, I didn't say that one. Oh, you know. ever saw that? No, because I heard it didn't hit and I was like, I'll listen to everybody.
Starting point is 00:58:22 But it's one of those that's right. I saw Jared Lido's one, I saw a promo still for that and I was like, no thank you. And then everybody said it don't hit and I was like, I'm not wasting my time. But it was, I, it's almost like. Is it like Wonder Woman 84? Yes, that's exactly the movie I was about to say. It's not, well, see, that's the thing. It's not, I remember we talked about Wonder Woman 84 on this show right after it came out and we were saying, it's like that movie's because it's like, it's so objectively terrible, but I do recommend that people watch it. Because it's like it almost needs to be seen to be believed it's so insane. Does Suicide Squad have a Pedro Pascal chewing every scene element to it?
Starting point is 00:59:03 Because like, I do think that one person can carry a movie and make it worth. Like Pedro Piscall was doing what Nicholas Cage does in a lot of movies where you go, this sucks, but I'm fucking in. Like, are you telling me that Suicide Squad had an element of that? I mean, it's just... All I heard was it's bad. One hundred eighty four was like, it's bad, but it's also bat shit. It, I mean, suicide squad's definitely bat shit, I think.
Starting point is 00:59:27 It's like, it barely makes sense, and it's bad in a way that makes you go, like... You're like, really? Yes, right. This storied franchise is being handled in this manner. Some of the lines and moments or whatever, you just go like, what the fuck? And then you like start laughing after the fact because you can't believe that they actually just said that. I like to think that Will Smith was like... like, you know what, man, I've been on a run where I've picked stinker after stinker.
Starting point is 00:59:50 I'm going to go with a time-honored... I'm going to go to D.C. and then be in one of their movies, and it's going to be great. And then he's in historically the worst one ever. So, Carla Delavini or whatever, was also the star of the movie, which I never saw because I heard it didn't hit. Valerian in a city of a thousand planets. Do you remember that movie?
Starting point is 01:00:10 It's Dow Shiet. Well, she's the star of that. Okay. Yeah. And then... Yeah. She's also the female lead of the TV show Carnival Row, which I watched the first season of. Yeah, that's with our boy John Snow, right?
Starting point is 01:00:25 No, it's Orlando Bloom is the star of Carnival Row. It's got fairies and shit in it. Yeah, yeah. She's got 41 million followers on Instagram. You will have that, buddy. Yeah. But anyway, but she's like, I've always thought she's pretty lackluster as an actor, not that great, but her, like... Resumé is impressive.
Starting point is 01:00:45 her parents are all like super rich and her godmother is Joan Collins and the provost of Eaton, you know, the, you know what Eaton is that fucking, that real hit in school in the UK. Yeah, Charles and everybody goes. Right.
Starting point is 01:01:04 Yes. Is he not going to Eaton? Yeah. He would be an Eaton boy. Yeah, right. Well, she's like, she's like from those types of people. She's like from that type of thing.
Starting point is 01:01:13 And so, man, just have a leg of. Horses. But, yeah, just brush horses. I hear you. But I did, I did see her, though, on some late-night show. I mean, I just saw the clip online.
Starting point is 01:01:25 Those types of people should be financing movies. If you want to be in it, great, but you pay for it. She played, I think it was a Skinnered song or some kind of hitting rock song. I'm back. On a guitar behind her head and shredded it. This girl? Yeah, so she's kind of... I don't know what argument you're trying to make here.
Starting point is 01:01:44 I'm saying, she's kind of hit for me every since I'm back. Sounds like she deserves everything she's ever had. Yeah, right. Sounds like it don't matter who her parents are. She would have broke through that wall, is what I'm here. I did a complete 180 on her. Yeah, that's pretty fucking sweet. Someone from Eaton that appreciates the true hits of the world.
Starting point is 01:02:00 Yeah, it is Skinnered. Hang on. I'll just, I'll show you this and then we'll leave. I'll show you this. We'll plug stuff and then we'll... Okay. We'll leave. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:11 Show me. Over here, you show us how you can beatbox. We always try to skip our head a little bit. It is hard, but it wasn't as hard. I just like to give us a little taste. Okay. I'll go out. I'm like, oh, Jesus.
Starting point is 01:02:26 Okay. All right. This is, this is Elvian playing the guitar behind her head. Oh, okay, sorry. Oh, God, I just got hard. Oh, my God, that's how you do it right there. I got real hard there at the very beginning. Dude, even,
Starting point is 01:02:56 know it's about Alabama and like Reno, Roll Tide Nation has adopted that song as their own. It's don't matter. And I know it's so cliche, but as a Southerner, whenever I hear, I get ready to fucking go. If we were ever,
Starting point is 01:03:11 if you ever want to get me on the front lines of any type of battle and you need me properly motivated, right before you throw the sword down, just hit down, and I will fucking cut a blue streak down that goddamn battlefield, son. I'll get terrified, but I'll stab a motherfucker.
Starting point is 01:03:28 Heard that, baby. All right, y'all come see me, please. I'm in Durango, Colorado tonight, and then Santa Fe, Thursday, and Flagstaff, Friday, and then Appleton, Wisconsin, then Philly, Jersey, and Maryland, and then on from there, Phoenix, I believe, and then, you know, everywhere else.
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