wellRED podcast - #56 - Gun Control, Fat Old Wrestlers, and The NCAA!

Episode Date: February 28, 2018

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I'm drunk. Leave me a message after the beep. Beep. You're not answering your phone, but that's okay because I was kind of hoping you wouldn't because I knew if I let you a voicemail, you'd probably put it on the podcast this week. And I had something on my heart truly and deeply that I wanted to go. off my chest. And I got to say, man, for me, this is a big deal. My black, cynical heart is filled with hope, man. I mean, in spite of how terrible the news has been lately, these kids, man,

these young, adult American kids are giving me hope. It's, it almost is scary. It's almost, It's almost as scary as, you know, our gun rights issues in this country. It's just been unbelievable. First of all, they're taking on the NRA. The NRA is such an unbelievably powerful group. They have so much money behind them. They have so many senators. The NRA doesn't have that many members.

And the members that it does have, a lot of them want gun reform. But the NRA isn't for it. Why? Because they're not actually for their members. It's not longer a, you know, club of people like my dad sitting around being like, This is my favorite kind of shotgun, and I like a Browning, and how do you feel about rifles? I mean, that's what they want us, the thing the NRA is, but instead it is mostly just paid for by all these fucking manufacturers who want everyone to be scared, so they're buying new guns. I mean, I'm not telling you, or our fans, anything they don't know.

I'm just been impressed with these kids' ability to fight them, to take them on. That lady, I don't remember her name, that pretty lady that they're marching out there. Like, that's going to trick us. Like, what? I mean, I know that works on Fox News, but there's stupid fucking watchers, but, like, there ain't no liberal that's ever been like, oh, my God, she's pretty. I guess she's right. I mean, there might be one or two, but the point is that ain't going to work. And then these kids, you know, they're out there, like, they've already been the person who took on an asshole with a gun. Like, why would they be afraid of these corporate-backed assholes with guns? They're not. They're not at all. And they're taking them on, and it's been really impressive and giving me hope. And then they're also having to deal with the president who, to his credit, hasn't attacked them, but he just said so much dumb stuff, and they're having to deal with that, and they're having to deal with all these haters on the internet. I've been following these kids on Twitter, which I felt uncomfortable with it first.

You know, I don't want to follow a 17-year-olds on Twitter, but they're so smart, and they're so sharp, and they know how Twitter works, and these trolls come at them, and they just beat them right back down. It's so beautiful, man. One of them tweeted that we should change the name of AR-15 to Marco Rubio because they're so easy to buy it, which is just a perfect tweet, a perfect tweet by a sophomore. Like, I'm jealous over here. Her name is Sarah Chadwick. And Laura Ingram, this stupid, stupid, one of these people who's like,

the kids these days, and this is what she was tweeting. She was like, wow, this is how teens speak to and about adults these days? And it's like, yeah, first of all, it is. Second of all, it's a perfect joke. And third of all, she had a great point. Thank you for retweet. it and making yourself look stupid and giving her a lot more cachet. And that's what I'm loving about this.

They're owning every aspect of it. People are accusing them being crisis actors. They're coming right back at him with wit and grace. It's almost as if these kids know how to use Twitter better than the older people, huh? And then of course, like I said, we've got Donald Trump. And I don't know if you saw what he tweeted. And I know that so many conversations in the last year have been like, did you see what he tweeted yesterday?

And it gets to the point where you're tired of those conversations and you think there's no way he can surprise me. But he did. He tweeted that if he had been there with or without a gun, he would have run back into that school to save those kids. First of all, run? Nah, Donald, you fat orange tub of goo, you would not have ran. You ain't ever ran. you ain't ran for nothing. You didn't even barely ran for president.

I mean, you won that race. I got to give you that, but, you know, he was running against the old lady, not a teenager with a fucking AR-15, you stupid idiot. Second of all, into a school. You was going to run into a public school, a public high school. Donald Trump wouldn't go into a public high school with a hazmat suit on, unless there were 16-year-old Russian girls in there. That's the only way we could get him to go.

There's no way he's doing it. Ooh, public school kids. There's a zero percent chance. But we all know he's an idiot. To his credit, I have to say, he did say, hey, let's raise the age limit of getting AR-15s. Let's start talking about making some compromises. And, of course, the NRA had to murder that because they don't have to compromise anybody. They already own the Senate.

You know what I mean? And they own all the guns. That's one thing that's always weird about arguing with the NRA. It's like, well, of course, they win the argument. They have guns. That's part of why these damn kids are kicking their asses. They've already survived somebody with a gun. They ain't afraid of them.

But I digress. Donald Trump has been trying to say, well, let's do some new things. And he said, let's raise the age to which you can buy our 15s. I don't think that's enough. But like I said, at least he's trying something. Then he said, let's arm the teachers. Arm the teacher? You want to arm teachers?

You want to arm the people who have to pay for their own staples. We're going to get the money to do that. We've got to do a bake sale to buy a Glock. Is that your plan? They have to buy them themselves. It's like they have to do all their fucking supplies. Where are you going to get the money for that? You fucking idiot.

And also, who wants to arm teachers? Let's think about that. Just for a second. What kind of teachers are out there? And look, I'm not going to shit on teachers. Most teachers are the best. But the teachers who are the best, they're like sweethearts oftentimes. A lot of times they're tough.

I'm not saying they couldn't handle a gun, but they don't want a gun. Think about the teachers in your high school who would want a gun, Corey. Think about who would volunteer to be that guy. And I say that guy on purpose, I'm not being sexist, I'm acknowledging that some fucking crazy, toxic, masculine coach type dude will be like, I'm going to do it. Let me have the gun. I'll teach these goddamn kids. Give me a hell, I'll bring my own gun. I got 15.

Let me tell you. I had a teacher who was an assistant coach on literally every team in my school. Okay? Now, we only had three sports teams. Now, this guy was, he was a good dude. He was good to all of us. He gave people summer jobs at his side businesses. He would work hours unpaid after school.

He was so sweet to the special ed kids that when they saw him, they would clap for him. Like literally, like he worked with him a lot. And when they would see him in the hall, he would start clapping for him, not like get excited. And he was a great guy. But he was broken, okay? One time he dated a student.

Now she was 18, but he dated a student. One time he showed me naked pictures of a woman he was dating that I did not ask to see, and it turned out to be an older lady that I knew. All right? This dude later died of a drug overdose. I bring this up because he used to bring a gun to school sometimes. But he would leave it in his car where I saw it once.

Bringing it in would have been too reckless, even for him. He would have brought it in if they let him. And a lot of teachers where I'm from would have brought a gun if they let him. And my point is, teachers are human. They vary from good to bad, crazy to stable, all things in between. When you start thinking about putting guns in their hands, you've got to start thinking about training them. the time it would take to do that, and you've got to, again, go back to who's going to volunteer to do that.

That coach I was referring to would have died defending any and all of us, unlike that piece of shit Donald Trump who says he would have run in. He would have. He absolutely would have died defending us. But he also might have shot somebody accidentally. He might have misplaced the gun or lost it. Like, that's a thing he could have done. He might have done any of those things, but he absolutely would have let the special ed kids play with the goddamn gun. I'm telling you, he would have let them do anything they want of. It was really beautiful how much he loved those kids.

I mean, he would have unloaded it, of course, first, because he wasn't a complete idiot. Like I said, he waited until she was 18. But the point is, I don't think fucking teachers need guns in their classrooms, all right? This is how I feel. It's crazy. It's reckless, and they don't want them. Give them fair pay, not guns.

They deserve a raise, especially, there's never been better proof of that to me that they deserve a raise, and looking at how these kids in Florida are dealing with this. It's unbelievable. Like, they have great teachers. They don't need guns. They need a fucking raise. And you know what? This is what I said. It's been giving me hope. Watching these kids deal with this with grace and wit and intelligence, deep intelligence.

And I realize this is how Donald Trump is going to make America great again. He's creating a population of young people who are scared and angry and committed to not allowing their country to be so full of hackery and bullshit. And hopefully they're going to be able to resist and overcome this corporatocracy and they won't sell out. like every other fucking generation has. Hopefully, these beautiful young millennials that everyone, from your co-workers to your dumb fuck 45-year-old cousin who can't hold down a job and lives in his mom's basement,

but surely has some strong opinions on how these 22-year-olds don't know how they got it today. They're going to be better than all of them and all of us. And America will be fucking great again. Harmon teachers. Jesus Christ. Excuse. Well, well. Are we going? We are.

All right. It was cream. It was cream. It was scallops. Yeah. I had scallops. I had a jambolea fetichini. And the guy when I ordered it looked at me, you know.

You. I don't have the appearance of somebody who would be put off by this. I don't think. You had on a raccoon t-shirt. Yeah, I had sweatpants. Yeah. He looked at me when I ordered it and said, okay, sorry, I didn't let you know. it's uh it's got a lot of heavy cream in it's a pretty heavy dish and i was just like

what you think this is yeah this ain't no fucking game and i'm furious bring me that shit i said it was delicious yeah it was awesome i said i was gonna get something to go and i didn't and i'm mad now at the time i was so goddamn full i couldn't even bring myself to talk to that man anymore but that pasta was so i mean the word is out dente but it was just like they cooked it so perfect it was good and thick it was like come in How good? How are you? Hey, Kim. Drew.

You want to tell the podcast world? Hello? You want to tell the podcast? I don't want to talk to? Can we get some of vodka tonic? A double, please. Is that for you or for me? That's for me. I'll also take it. So three double vodka tonics.

Yep. Tito's. Tos will be great. Thank you. And a little bit of orange juice. She didn't hear that. No, she didn't hear that. That's okay.

I got something I want to talk about. Super important, pressing issue. Okay. Big boss man, the wrestler from the 90s. Shit, what happened? Oh, dude, he died in 2004. Okay, yeah, you're right. Okay.

All right, that confused me for a second. But I just saw a random giff of him on the internet earlier. And for me, at least, he's one of those like, it's so wild. How that was a thing. Yeah, exactly. You know, every now and then you'll see somebody or something, and you think, like.

The Iron Sheik. How? did that get to be a thing and he is one of those for me. Just because, yeah, he's like one of the comments on the Gip was like, he looks like everybody's friends, racist dad. I think I have an explanation. I would have loved to have gotten into this with Conrad. Obviously, wrestling has been around a while, but in terms of a true professional sport,

it's pretty young. Well, early on in all professional sports, there was room for the guy who had been in it from the beginning. You know, I mean, he was buddies with it. Like now, he's. you got to be jacked. I mean, I actually looking it up.

Dusty Rhodes discovered him, basically. It's all about personality too. And you know what? Dusty Rhodes probably we couldn't make it right now. Right. Right. No. He could on an indie circuit.

Right. It's a lot about, when it first started, it was now the dudes that are like, what's his fate? Who's this? You can't see me, John Sina. John Sina has personality and he's fucking jacked.

But like, there was a time when, like, personality, it could go either way. You were either super jacked and you were like, didn't really have a, personality, but whatever, you were fucking huge. That looks great. Thank you. Or, you

could be, uh, Yoko Zuna was literally just a fucking fact. That was his thing, though, he was a sumo wrestler, so he was, that was his whole deal. Right, right, right, right. But then you had, you had... Big Boss man, that character could have been jacked. You know, there was nothing about that character that required him being a big fat fuck.

Conan to Barbarian. Also, he wasn't jacked. He was just fat. But you know what's funny, or... It's not funny. It's like darkly funny. Now, this part, I get. how this was a thing. But he was a cop character who's like finishing move was handcuffing his opponent and then beating the fuck out of him

with the nice seat. Yeah. Turns out big boss man was, you know, ahead of his time. Well, now they've been, you know. Right. He was publicly, though. Yeah, right.

Yeah, he was a prescient figure, big boss man. But yeah, died at a heart attack at the age of 41. And his Georgia home, he's a Georgia boy. God damn, he was only 41? 41. He was a shot.

out 41 wasn't he God, damn. Back when we was fucking when wrestling and he was a thing, he was like 32. Yeah, man. 33. And he told it. He was fucking your age.

He was our age. God damn. Well, now again, you know. I know. I don't look great. But we've actually said before when you have, when you're not wearing a ball cap,

if you're shirtless with no hat on, Drew termed it. I look like a wrestler who's finishing move is hitting a woman and we have we have uh we have come up with a name for that character and it's hard arn and nothing hard ars serious hard arn we were in uh texas when drew said that and um i thought at the time maybe it's because i just took an entire grocery bag full of mushrooms but this is the funniest god damn thing that we've ever thought of collectively and tag teamed on now that i'm sober as a judge hold up dude are you shitting me you also do look like horn anderson yeah hard arn and

You look like his boy. Yeah, man. I'm with it. I mean son. Yeah, right. I know. Not just like you look like one of his boys. I mean like you came from his loins.

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Anyways, back to the podcast. podcast. So, Big Bossman, what got you on that? I saw a random gif of him on Reddit earlier. Okay. It was like, it was a gift of him. You ever see those gifts where it's like the graphics they put up on the screen? It looks like the person is interacting with the graphic, but they're not. Right. Yeah. It just looks that way. Like they're a weatherman for a second? It was a giff of Big Bossman looking like pissed at his own name card. Like he walks out and he's doing his, He's doing his nightstick shit, you know, doing his stick flips or whatever. Pretending to beat a minority. And then it pops up on the right side of the screen, his name card, you know, big boss man. And as soon as it pops up, he just like stops what he's doing and looks at it.

Like, you know, what the fuck's this thing doing here? But that's total coincidence. It just looks that way. So that's why the gift was shared because it's just funny looking. But I hadn't thought about Big Bossman in years. There's so many wrestlers. I ain't thought about years. And I just started thinking about it.

And I was like, that is wild, dude. Just go back and look at pictures that motherfucker. I mean, he looks like Corey's uncle. He looks like, you know, everybody's uncle. He might be Corey's uncle. Considered he's from Georgia. What part of Georgia is it? He's originally from Marietta, Georgia.

Because I'm completely surprised. Corey didn't be like, oh, yeah. Oh, dude, me too, honestly. I was, yeah. He comes to the family of English. His real name was. He used to park one of my cousins. His real name was Ray Walker trailer.

No, not trailers. I don't know what y'all are talking about. Something like that, though. I have no idea what you were talking about, but I heard Drew. Ray Walker. Ray Walker. I don't know what you were talking about and I was missing heads. All I did was I heard Drew in here going,

and I know he was fucking with me. No, dude. His name was Ray Trailer. His birth name. Big boss man. Big boss man's birth name. And he had to make something up to wrestle? Did you already say that?

No. What the fuck? Yeah. Ray Trailer? Ray. That sounds like a character from Grand Theft Auto fucking Oak Ridge. No shit, dude. Corey, do you know where Dallas, Georgia is?

Yeah. Dallas, Georgia is like, mid-south Georgia. They've got a really good fucking football team. They whooped our ass. That's where he was born in Marietta, but he, like, lived in Dallas, Georgia, and that's where he died out of his house in Dallas. No.

I didn't know anybody from there. That's hoping we could live out what I said when he was gone. What we were laughing about is, y'all do the hole. Yeah, Dallas Georgia. I know somebody there. Grandma used to get pokes out on the side of the road. Pick Blackberry's got a thorn and thine at one time. then she had to go to the hospital.

Of course, I fucked the nurse. Yes. Well, it was a... How close was that? Well, we were talking about... To your life? It sounds like it's like page 37. Once I said that he was from Georgia,

Drew was like, I fucking can't believe that Corey didn't immediately. Oh, yeah, Bill, yeah, everybody... You know, what about... Yeah. Like, you had some personal anecdote about big boss man.

So, yeah, I don't even fuck with people. Ray Trailer Jr. Yeah. Names? Yeah. Funny names. Yeah, let's get into it. Yeah, I want to put into it.

Yeah, I want to put it. Good. Yeah. Yeah. pull this up right now. So we were hanging out in Jacksonville, Florida, the heart of the south.

And how'd this get, how did you get brought up on this? The enlarged heart of the south. Yeah. What got you on this? I found it. Again, I saw it on fucking Reddit. Just randomly. I read it to everything.

Where the fuck is it at? I saw it on Reddit. Okay. Here it is. The tell called Citterville, Ohio. Circleville. Circleville. Circleville, Ohio has a Hitler Road,

Hitler Cemetery Hitler Park But they don't mean what you think More at 12 Diane Ohio's Hitler family Includes I don't know which one to lead with Yeah the point is

It has nothing to do with that Hitler Adolf But in spite of the fact that he did what he did They just kept all the names Another part of that So it's sort of in line with that I didn't read this part to y'all But that family has maintained

and still maintains that like Adolf wasn't even a real Hitler like that like that his dad his granddad's name was like like Hedler or something and it's so what he shouldn't even have been called Hitler and they're back you know like you know what's fucking Trump and Drump

I don't know but you know like fucking Michael Bolton in office space yeah yeah he's like what fuck should have to change my name you know he's one who makes shitty fucking pop music or what you know shitty light rock that's how they feel that's how they feel about the murder of fucking six million Jews or whatever

why should I have to change by that? The fucking goat murder I don't necessarily disagree with them though No I mean that's But it ain't there for all No no no no I don't You're talking about the family or the town? The family

But I'm saying why you keep it Hitler Park Now here's the deal I don't family hits for them Fuck that family I don't disagree with the family thinking man why the fuck should I have to change it They're the shitty ones But you'd still do it

Fuck yeah I disagree with the no action on it It's like you just sucks, but, you know. You didn't even tell the names. Yeah, well, I've wanted that. I'm trying to push that to the end. But we're there now.

You're right. Ohio's Hitler family includes Dr. Gay Hitler. Dr. Gay Hitler. And my favorite. George Washington Hitler. Dr. Gay Hitler. Dr. Gay Hitler is my favorite, I thought. Please.

Dr. Gay Hitler, I mean, both of them sound made up. As I said yesterday, George Washington Hitler sounds like a fucking Sinefeld. Dr. Gay Hitler sounds like a fucking 4chan person. Yeah. You know what I mean? What would he, like, if you went to see Dr. Gay Hitler, what kind of doctor would he be? Is that just a GP or do you think that's like a specific, you know, he's just a foot guy? Butt-Hulls.

I was going to say, when I was doing the Dr. Gay-Hillard song. I was going to say, please check my butthole. But we already did Mr. But-Wiener, so, you know, I was trying to. Yeah, Winter-But Doctor. Winter-But Doctor. I mean, I think Dr. Gay-Hitler would be a winner-but-d doctor. Twitter but doctor's partner. They got a practice on the outskirts of Jacksonville, Florida.

Dr. Gay Hitler. Dr. Gay Hitler. Oh, thank you for a drink. Please bring me my drink. Thank you. Here we go German. Yeah, we did. Unz.

It's in vodka. It is this Russian drink. What the fuck is that? What's in the same middle? We do want to. Is that strawberry is made in the roses? I'll be goddamn. You will be.

This is a hit in this fucking fruit potter we've ever gotten. No, it can sit around. That's also, is that Brussels sprouts? Pick off of it. Yeah, yeah. I mean, look, he's doing it. No, we'll fuck around with it. Brussels sprouts?

Are those strawberries or radishes? Because sometimes. Those are strawberries for sure. Okay. That damn. Fuck, yeah. It's olives? Thank you, Kim.

Thank you, Kim. We in, uh, jordy, no, I mean, I've been here the whole time. We haven't said. We're in West Palm Beach. We're on West Palm Beach, yeah. That's an improv. West Palm Beach here for you, Drew. you lived in South Florida for a while

I didn't come up this far ever except for and I've told us on the podcast but we can relive it I came up here for that concert series in which I tried to go crowd surfing and failed miserably just in case I haven't told it on the podcast I will now redo that please because it hits for me

and I got hammered with my buddy Tim who was in town for something and Andy was with me I was like 26 at the time and we went to an outdoor festival and MGMT was playing in the middle of the day like they were on their down on slope, you know what I mean?

And so was I. Down slope? Is that right? I meant to say slope and I'm just stupid. What year was this? He was 26, so this was 204. I think it was 26. They were on their up slope then. They hadn't started hitting. It was 2004. No, that ain't

true. It couldn't have been 2004 if you were 26. That was 12 years ago. Corey is terrible at math. Yeah, I didn't even... Corey just made me 37. You agreed with me, so you're terrible at thinking for yourself. Sure. And anyway, I just don't listen to you or care what you have to say about most subjects, especially numbers. You really seem like a person who doesn't care what I'm saying.

Their apex was like 08, right? I'm not sure the year of their apex. That feels a little late to me. That first album was their biggest one. They stuck around for a little bit, but this was like, you know what I mean? They had some huge hits. But what's the one about doing heroin out of the stars? No of that really even matters, but just.

Yeah, we're caught in the weeds here. The point is they were playing the middle of the day, and the reason I even said that is not a lot of people, like, not a lot of the young people gave a shit that they were there. Young people I'm defining as like 16-year-olds. And this was like an outdoor event in the middle of the city, so there was a lot of those types of people there.

And everybody was crowd surfing. And this was the fattest I've ever been in my life. It was at the end of law school, first or second year working. You being fat right now. I know, I got my belly hanging out. You're sitting for me. You weren't wearing a belt either, so you look super old and pap always. Dude, I'm so, I'm so,

bloated off that peanut butter cake and that bread pudding we ate. It was cream. It was cream. It was cream. It was so much cream. So anyway, I got up on the trash can and tried to go crowd surfing. And Andy was there and my friend Tim was there and Tim's like a smart ass. I played football with him in college.

So this really hit for him. I went and I jumped into the crowd and they just all dispersed immediately like ants. Like they got the fuck out of the way. I landed Cust Blatt on the pavement. No one tried to help me. up because everyone hated me except for Tim and

and Andy who were laughing so hard that they couldn't breathe and then a kid goes and that's why grown-ass men don't try to crowd serve and I've never been more owned, is that the right word? Yeah, but... Poned, maybe even.

At the time it would have been poned. Yeah. P-W-N-D is that what it was? That's not a red... I fed you some pawn cakes. Pone cakes. Pone cakes. Yeah, I got... Try.

Corey. rap for me in Scotland in Scottish Get our boots With the pimped out Goot jeet suits Good chest suits Sorry

I know that That makes no sense for it Well yeah We've done another podcast Scottish ATO Scottish ATO Yeah I'm about to go up

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If it's one that I know Could you do Outcast Where Big Boy Scott And then Andre 3000 is British? Not you would. Probably not. It had to be one of their slower songs, which is like, yeah. Miss Jackson.

Who, sorry, Miss Jackson. Who? I am for real. Never meant to make your doctor K.A. Apologize a trillion times. That's amazing. And then just do that again.

Baby's mama drama, don't like me. Do it? That was big boy. You flipped out of them. I did. I did. It don't matter of heads. Okay.

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You want to? I don't mind it. I thought I heard you telling him that Drew was going to do that. Yeah, but I wasn't going to push the issue if y'all were still wanting to hang out here and do this. But yeah, let's take a break. This is a perfect time for it. And again, this portion of the podcast has been brought to you by

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It was shows. It was cream. It was cream. Producers Jen and Wes are here. Say what's up real loud, y'all. See? We got producers in the house. Wes was my first college roommate.

I want to tell this story real quick because y'all will enjoy the shit out of this. So they just put you with somebody, right? your freshman year. In retrospect, they put us together, I think, because I'm from Sunbride, he's from Rockwood, and we both play on the football team. That checks out. West was the kicker. And it was like, I feel like they was like, well, Sunbride, Rockwood, these two boys are going to have a rough time here at Marrival.

We may as well put them on the same room together. Right. So then they give you each other's phone numbers so that you can call. Yeah, in a minute. Trade us through weed at me. I did. They give you, you know, your roommate's phone number so you can call. So I call them.

And I don't know, you know, it's like, it's a kicker. Kickers are, kickers are known for being weird. You know what I mean? They're quirky. That's a known. Like the drummers of the football world? Yes, the drummers plus all the drummers groupies rolled into one person.

So I call Wes up. And I'm like, yeah, we should have this phone go to get to know each other. And I call him or maybe he called me. I don't remember. And I'm like, yeah, what are you doing? you know what's up man oh dude man oh and i don't know if he was high or tired or confused but he's kept being like written he was like yeah i'm about to go to this mystical concert dope the first how the first time i talked to west cutting him my future roommate he was

on his way to a mystical concert that's what's up i was like he's from rockwood he's a kicker and he goes to mystical concerts ooh we're going to get along swimmingly how was that show west Oh, it was off the chain Off the chains, Zab. This just them. Cooleo was there, too? What? Well, y'all are dating yourself a little bit.

You heard it here last, everybody. Well, that's, well, that was what was so funny about it. We was freshman in college. They was already a little beyond their time. Right. Coelio and Missical. Oh, yeah. It was already a throwback concert.

Where was that at? Knoxville. In Knoxville. Yeah, but if it was Mr. Cooleo in Knoxville. It was at the Coliseum? part of me thought it might be at like what is now known as the international what was it called the valerian the valerium as we always do when we introduce a new producer this is west we always

have to pay tribute and pour one out to producer brys yeah rest in peace rest in peace to produce rest in peace that's probably what he will do yeah he's resting in a tragic moped accident yes as we said before he killed himself after uh his french robert found out he drove a mopep yeah so rest in peace peace bruce by i reckon his mopeb into a wall Yeah. I miss him every day. His last words were, this is how Earnhardt went out.

And it's extra sad because it's not how Earnhardt went out. Bars, the moped I'm driving. We don't hit. What are we talking about? I really don't remember. Big boss man. Let me tell you.

It was. It was a big boss man. I went down a big boss man rabbit hole while he was on stage. I read up about him. Seems like he was a hell of a dude. I got to tell you. Cho? He never broke.

No? No. He never. broke character. You know, K-Fabe? Yeah. He, like, is renowned among the wrestling community during the period that he was in for being

one of the most hardcore, I don't break K-Fabe motherfuckers ever. Apparently, on Stone Cold's podcast, he had Dusty Rhodes on there who told a story about super early out, you know, because I told y'all Dusty Rose, he discovered Big Boss Man. It's got a hard-hit and political

commentary you get on this podcast, Wes. Producer Wes, I hope you know what you signed. up for. Dusty Rose early on made, Big Boss Man got his start as Dusty Rhodes bodyguard. His name was Big Bubba something. He wasn't Big Bossman yet. And his

thing was he don't talk. He's silent and he feels no pain. And that was his character. Well, Dusty Road showed up to an event and there's all these fans outside to watch him arrive. Big Bossman. He's the opposite of my wife.

Let's him out. Let's him out of the car. and then the chauffeur slammed the door on big boss man's hand like hard and he didn't even say a word he was just like hey buddy

door you know or what or just didn't say shit I don't know but he didn't react at all because he's silent and Dusty Rose noticed it and was like that's a tough ass motherfucker but then they got committed but well but he just thought that this dude is fucking he's something else

but then they got in the hotel and the door closed on the crowd and big boss man just started like screaming it's like god damn of course yeah and then dusty road was like fuck man you know why you say something who's like i couldn't fans was out there so everybody give it up to ray trailer junior good lord aka big bubba aka to big boss man rest in peace everybody ray trailer ray trailer junior and i know it was junior and there was two more names after that and neither one was as red as Ray Trailer Jr. Yeah, why did he even create a character

when he could have been Ray Trailer? Ray Trailer. It's unreal. Did you ever tell y'all when I went to get my hair cut at a barbershop in Oak Ridge, Tennessee? And I walked in and it was this old fella? No shit. Yeah, and he was like,

hey, what's your name, buddy? And I said, Trey. And he goes, Trey, is that short for Trailer? And I was like, yeah, I was like, do it up. Good roast. Yeah. I appreciate any barber. It just goes death to damn off top. Corey, wait.

Have we not done that? Have we not done that? I'm so upset we ain't ever pointed out. We've made the joke that his mom named him after what she used to do drugs off of. Yeah, Trey. We have not said it's short for trailer. I'm so. Yeah, well, my man Jimmy and Oak Ridge is a, you know.

Yeah. Hey, it's harder. Comedic genius. Yeah. I have zero doubt about that. Okay, I'm done. Go ahead, Corey. I got nothing.

We were going to talk about. Did you just see what I just did? We're going to talk about two things. One that hits for me, Supreme, which is Rick Barnes is currently... Drew, the weeds up your ass. You've been sitting on the way. Rick Barnes is currently on the short list to be the coach of the year in basketball. He's the coach University of Tennessee.

I only bringing it up to hit, but what I did want to talk about, and I think people might give a shit about it. It's relevant to our times. Man, your feet stink. I'm about to go back over there and smoke that weed. That do stink. There's a big story coming out right now where the NCAA has been investigating for years, along with the FBI, the FBI's been leading it, the pay-to-play situation in NCAA basketball where through entities like Adidas and Nike and boosters, players are getting hundreds of thousands of dollars to go play for a specific school. The biggest hit so far is that there's supposedly

Sean Miller coach of the Arizona Wildcats is supposedly on tape personally saying, yeah, we're going to give $100,000 to this kid, Aiton. DeAndre Aiton, who... He went off last night, but they still lost. Yeah, but it about hit real hard. But yeah, he's the one that they basically paid to get.

And they have the coach on tape doing that. So that's a big story right now Well, we've had some issues with like Petino and some other But we've never had a coach on tape And supposedly this goes Super deep

Kentucky, UNC, Duke Which is Shasek I mean, you know Fuck him Is he and some shit right now? Yeah man Oh shit I didn't even see now Yeah dude it's huge

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Get quip.com slash well red. Make it hip. Now back to the podcast. Ski-you. So we have been talking off the podcast. That motherfucker should just got out three years ago. Right. When it started being one and done. That's what I'm saying.

Yeah. But dude, you're done. It was just the Bailey's one guy down? I mean, each year it's only like two white kids that hit at basketball. But Shoshesky getting them every single time. You know what I mean? So like, that's a leg up.

Sure. For sure. You know, he ain't had shit to worry about. Well, he's fine. No, he's screwed. They all screwed. But that's the thing. It's the whole system.

Like, it seems like, anyway, we've been talking about it off, Mike, debating it a little bit. The idea of these kids getting in trouble for taking money, these coaches getting in trouble for paying their kids, and just the fact that NCAA players literally aren't allowed to be paid. So off top, let me say that I don't ever, ever blame any of the kids. the kids when it is that type of situation fuck they're fucking 18 years old man and a lot of times

are from a background where they don't they need that goddamn money and so like i don't ever blame any the kids no matter what but having said that my opinion on it has basically been for a while that what they call the olympic model which is that if you as a college athlete can make money off of your name like if you hit hard enough to sign autographs or make public appearances or sell jerseys or whatever, any of that shit, you should be able to make that money. But I don't think that universities should have to, like, pay a salary to collegiate athletes. And my argument was many of them could.

To me, that's enough. My argument was many of them could pay a salary. If they're making a shitload of money off these kids, they or pay the salary. But also, Adidas, Nike, Reebok, they could help pay for these salaries. Because they're making, and they've, and to their credit, and I can't believe I'm talking, like, giving credit to these big shoe company corporations. But to their credit, they've talked about that. They have said, yeah, when I put a Nike shoe on the star of UNC, you know, when I put the Jordan logo on Joel Berry the 3rd, who's the point guard at UNC, I make money off him. They've said, let me pay him.

But isn't that the Olympic model, though? well that is right and that it goes a step further though because that would be the whole team you know what i mean that wouldn't just like yeah joll barry might like the jordan brand might have a specific thing in mind for joll berry to do but like they're saying we could sponsor the team let us sponsor the team you know what i mean and they do that's the other thing that makes me mad about it jordan brand gives you and see money to be the rep you know what i mean like why don't the kids get a piece of that sure cori i mean dude first off, as we said off my, I mean, okay,

the Olympic model to me is the thing that we should start with. I'm with you on should they pay these motherfuckers? You're goddamn right because it's disgusting how much money they make. And you know there's enough to go around. Obviously, some dude at the top's going to have to take a hit, but like that's

I mean, that's with everything. Fuck him. He's getting too much. These kids deserve some. If you start with the Olympic model, you don't have to fundamentally change every single thing about the NCAA. All you've got to do is remove a couple things. Hey, these kids now can use their likeness to make money on their own.

They're not dipping into our pockets. And to me, it's not that that can be done. Well, I mean, how couldn't it be done overnight? You literally just got to go, hey, they no longer can be in trouble for selling their ring or selling jerseys. Well, I mean, what you're talking about I like, but that's going to take fucking 15 years to even come close to getting decent. I just disagree. It might take 15 years to perfect, but it wouldn't take but a year to be. rewrite the rules. A and B, and here's my biggest problem with it. The NCAA fights for

regularly in terms of policy, in terms of inside their own world and in the political arena, there is a rule that they can't pay what amounts to their best employees. The NCAA makes a shitload of money every year, and it is against the rules for their employees to make any money. What a, what, what a, what a, there is no business in the world that wouldn't die for that to be the rule. The, the main problems that I've always had with just making it to where you, we pay collegiate athletes now, and there's probably more and I'm probably going to butcher my own argument

right now, but basically it comes down to two things for me. Because y'all know from knowing me that I'm like, I, I, I try to be super, you know, I, I try to be super practical about things. Sure. I don't know how every university goes about paying everybody. are there pay scales? Is it like contracts they're handing out? Who gets paid?

But let me challenge you a little bit on that. I mean, because like Title IX is a thing. But you just put out a video. And the lady of all. For $15 an hour being the minimum wage, how does every business go about doing that? Like, it'll take time.

There will be some. exceptions that may need to be made. You know what I mean? If it's, I can't, like, you know, North Dakota State, we might have to carve out an exception for them because it might be different. Like, they're... Yeah, you know how many colleges there are? And how many, like, sometimes how many hitters go to a smaller school

or whatever? It's a lot of... It's extremely bureaucratic, man. Yeah, but there's so much money. And I'm sick of the excuse of bureaucracy keeping money out of the people's hands who are making the goddamn money. Okay, the other thing is so if now you can pay athlete salaries

well now colleges are basically offering contracts or whatever so when it comes to you know competition on the field whatever or on the court whatever there you can't there's going to be a whole lot of schools that just can't do anything that we were talking last night about is already happening

look at the names of the schools in this FBI investigation. It's the schools that are great year in, year out. It ain't because, oh, this is where everybody wants to go, because it's who is already paid. Okay, dude. All right, also, and this is maybe where we're going to get into a little, you know, I don't know how this is going to play,

what I'm about to say, but I'm still going to say, because it's my opinion. It's my opinion. It's my opinion that if a hit in lacrosse, probably ain't the best example, a soccer player who hits gets to go to Stanford

for free not even Stanford fucking Ole Miss whatever for free with room and board and everything

that's commensurate to me with what they are contributing the athletes that really really bring value to the school

right are a fucking few and far between and I think the model covers them. So, like, I don't think it's a huge, like, miscarriage of justice that volleyball players at Duke aren't getting paid a salary for playing there. Well, okay, but there's a lot more to that.

Number one, you still got to get into Duke. It's not like, well, you're good at volleyball, but you got a 13 on the ACT, but we'll let you in. That ain't happening. You still got to be able to get into Duke. So, like, in my opinion, they deserve to go to Duke. You know what I mean? It's not like, it's like that Bimony Jones tweet you told me about.

Yeah, I can't remember it word for word, but he was talking about kind of this. And, oh, God damn it, I'm going to butcher it. Oh, he was talking about they get to go to school for free and they get to do blah, blah, blah, blah. And yada, yada, I didn't get to do that. And Bimani Jones was like, I'm not an athlete and I got to go to school for free. Maybe you should get good at something. I already brought this up, though. Well, hold on.

The other thing I was going to say, though, is they're not allowed to work. Like that kid, you were just talking about, and to be fair to you, in your Olympic model, they would be allowed to. But, like, that's one thing that's so frustrating is that kid you're talking about in the soccer situation, he can't get work study money for being an athlete, even though he's making money for the school. And he don't have time to take shifts at fucking Subway or McDonald's or something. And even if he did have time, he's like often literally not allowed other than the offset. Right. The other thing is go to, like, major universities and walk around campus and look who the buildings are named after.

There's not a lot of athletes. All right. It's a lot of fucking businessman or whatever. People that have a shitload of money. But that went there that were alumni, like that made good grades or whatever. I'm saying, we were talking about this off mic the other night. Like, I think smart kids, like when you look at most universities, not Alabama, but when you look at most colleges, the smart kids, I think.

You're that Alabama? Y'all ain't smart kids. No, it's that they're right. It's that their program. Gens ain't smart. Full of dumb kids. The smart kids on the whole are a much larger return on investment for the university money-wise than athletes are. And no one ever is talking about beyond a scholarship paying the smart kids who go to fucking Vanderbilt or whatever.

But if they produce a product that makes the money that a 10 and old football team makes while they're in. school, say a patent, they can get money. That is the Olympic model, which I am fine with. That's exactly, that's directly analogous. But how do we do it on the 10-0 football team when the guy who plays defensive in, well, he might be a superstar. The guy who plays guard, you know what, like, does he not deserve some of that money? And you said something.

You said, they're not bringing the return on investment. I'm not sure I'm comfortable with thinking of student athletes has return in investment. But if we are... If you're going to start paying them. That's my point. If we are, then let's be honest about it. So the Olympic model helps. It is a great first step.

You're right, Corey. But you're going to have that situation where the quarterback's making so much fucking money and the lineman's making nothing. In the NFL, the quarterback makes more money, but the lineman is valued by the market. You know what I mean? There's an honest-to-goodness market value for that guy.

I don't think there would be any Olympic model, man. I think they could still sign some autographs. I mean, yeah, they're going to be as in demand. But like any hard hit in school, like Alabama's offensive linemen is still would be able to make some scratch that week. I feel like. Maybe I'm wrong. As part of your Olympic model, let me ask you this. Would Aiton or a superstar like that, should boosters be allowed to pay them to come there?

That would be right in that, wasn't it? It would be, but I'm curious how you feel about it because of what you were saying a minute ago about level in the playing field. Like if Alabama's boosters are they, like, can they just be like, fuck it, we'll give you a million dollars to come here? Five-star recruit. Yeah. I mean, yeah, I guess if you're going to have an Olympic model, it's hard for me to argue against that. But that's like, yeah, I don't know if it goes directly to him, I guess so. I mean, it just, I don't know, that's just one of my arguments against the idea of paying all collegiate athletes.

Because I think you do have to, because if you don't pay them all, then again, it's just the Olympic model. Because what you're saying is we're going to pay the ones that hit. And like, it could also be the schools there or the conferences that are bringing in money, because that's something we got into off Mike, too, whereas if you're in a major conference, like Seton Hall's basketball team, if I'm not mistaken they're still in the Big East, the Big East has a huge TV contract. So there's money for those players. But, you know, going by the Olympic model, very rarely does Seton all have a point guard

to anybody gives a shit about, you know what I am. Well, wasn't that you're, what you was talking about last night about, because I said, well, in the Olympic model, I don't understand why the NCAA. I feel like, sorry. I don't know, you may have been you. I don't understand why the NCAA would give a fuck because this is actually not coming out of their pockets. This is them making money under their own merit. And then you had an argument to where it's like, oh, actually, it kind of can fuck over the NCAA a little bit.

And it was about commercial deals and stuff. Wasn't that you? Yeah, I was saying that, well, no, I don't want to say fuck over the NCAA. But the whole, like, what, it's actually a little bit of a different argument because you were saying, I don't understand why they can. care because it's not taking any money out of their pocket. It's money that goes straight to them. And I said

no, it would be taking money out of their pocket because that's his entire argument is that like there's a fuck ton of money that's coming in, none of which is going into their pockets. All of it's going to somebody's. But I was saying... They have an endowment just as an example. Sure, but what I was saying was like... The NCAA

has a pile of money that they invest. And as a non-profit, they're allowed to do that. Yeah, I was just saying... The NCAA has a bank. account that has millions of dollars in it. I know that. My original argument was in this, I was thinking of it and so micro, was like if fucking Todd Gurley had sat out and signed all his jerseys all day that people, it was

like the, the people still bought him from the bookstore and the NCAA still got the money from that jersey. He's getting extra money that would have never gone to them anyways. You know what I'm saying? But there are bigger things at play. But they would have, that money would have never exist. They would have never, ever seen it. I think producer Wes has a point.

He seemed to be chomping at the business. Am I wrong? Get on Mike. Oh, he didn't. He was trying to think, just like us. Just like a kicker. Put the pile of money into an escrow. Keep going.

The boosters did. He's saying the boosters put money into like an escrow, and then once you graduate, you complete your college. Like you've got like a nest egg waiting on you for the work that you've done while you're in college. Yeah. That would be a way to do it. He said it just like a kicker would say it, though.

That would also go back, though, to what your point was, Tray. We're like the endowment at Alabama. is going to be much bigger. Yeah, y'all motherfuckers wouldn't have made shit. But you could make... You could make Alabama share that shit with other people, because they do that right now. That's nothing that happens with these TV deals.

The money comes in and it goes to university. Players don't get a drop of it, right? Sure. But, like, let's think about what happens when Alabama plays whatever school from whatever division on TV. They make them split the money. And in conferences, they make them split the money evenly. Alabama played UTC last year, and that was a big deal for UTC.

Or inside one conference, you know, you've got, SEC is probably a bad example. I'm trying to think of a good one in football. It's better in basketball. The Big East is the perfect example. You've got schools that are the reason ESPN is buying the Big East contract. Right. But they have to split the money evenly among all the Big East schools.

Sure. You could do that with an escrow, I guess. You're saying that already happens with schools, so how is it any less fair if you apply that argument to players? And or why is it any harder? to apply to players. Like, the model exists. You just got to, and another thing of what you're saying,

and I'm not educated enough to speak on this, but when I was in law school, I took a sports law class, and we spent two weeks on this, and that wasn't enough time to cover it all. But, like, there's plenty of people writing about how we could do it. You know what I mean? Like, thought has gone into it.

Of course there is, because these are ex-agents, and they went in on that money. Yeah, I just feel like the thing that Corey said is also, I mean, one of my primary arguments in that, to do what you're talking about doing is an undertaking. To do what I'm talking about doing is not adding anything.

It's only removing regulations and policies already exist. Like it should ostensibly make things more efficient. It would add some. You'd have to have some rules governing how that would happen. Like if they're going to sign autographs, when can they do it and blah, blah, blah. But I agree with you.

That's why I said it should be the first step. the argument that the rest of it's so difficult, I just, I struggle with that because it's like, well, then why I do anything politically? Like, it's all hard.

No, I hear you on that. Yeah, I mean, oh, it's not, yes, this is the way it is.

Fuck it. Because that makes me more furious than anything when I hear somebody say, well, I mean, well, I don't feel like Trace

saying, it's just the way it is. Fuck it. But I'm saying like, yeah, I know it's a fucking huge undertaking, but it feels fucking unfair.

It feels to me like the people who ain't getting paid, you know, or get paid. come across as a huge asshole probably at the end of the day, but I think it's only truly unfair

to like 6% of all collegiate athletes across the board. And so I don't think... It's so much larger than 6. I don't think that the other 94% I don't, I don't think it necessitates that undertaking. Like, yeah, with like gun control, well, we can't do shit, it'd be

too hard. Yeah, but it's fucking It's worth trying I'm saying I just don't I think I don't know that it measures out It's so much larger than 6% to me Part of the reason you and I disagree about it is

There's so many schools But like Texas fucking tech is not a big part of the Big 12 in football people give a shit about maybe three of their players But the rest of their players Absolutely deserve a piece of the pie that the Big 12 overall makes Like you'll never convince

convince me that ain't true. Like, it's like, I mean, take it back to, like, being like a company. Without you, the company don't exist. I mean, you know, maybe I'm just a socialist in your capitalist pig, right? Like, I don't know what to say, you know? That was meant to be a joke when you're eating fruit like a capitalist pike right now. I just say, feed myself. He's little grapes over here.

It's like, don't give damn shit. Mwra. But, like, I hear what you're saying about the necessity. No money for me. It's just so much larger than 6% in my mind. It's, like, closer to 60. Yes. 60?

Because... Because... Think about every school and every sport at every school. Yes. Well, hold on, hold on. D1. D1. First of all.

Oh, so you don't give a fuck about D2 motherfuckers? I play D3. I get plenty of fucks about it. We can get into that. My point is he's talking about, like, who's really making the money. And what I feel like what you're arguing is 6% of athletes are making the money. And in my opinion, it's closer to 60 to 70. Like, 6% are the big names, but you need so many more people for them to even be relevant.

What do you think about that? Do you think it's 70% of D1 collegiate athletes are like amounting to a profit for their school, basically? No. Or, you know, probably not. I'm sorry. I almost know I'm right because I've looked at these fucking things. Well, no shit. Well, then let's break it down, dude.

Hi. Okay, yeah. Producer Jean-Villev said 50% are female. The woman in the room is sexist and she's talking about how women don't make money. But you're completely right. You're completely right. She's completely, I meant 7% of men, which says a lot about me to be. honest. I had forgotten that the

thing in the right way. But you can't do that. I know. Because a Title IX, you have to count the women. I understand that. God damn, Title IX. That's a Title IX. I mean that the way it sounds. Dude, because of Title IX, you've got to count the women. It's bullshit.

God, the country's going to hell. I understand that. I'm not saying that we don't have to make exceptions or work around that or divide. I'm not saying that. What I'm saying is the notion that it's superstars only that are driving property. Like, Baker Mayfield great. He does put eyes on the TV, but are you telling me he's great without his lineman, whose name's none of you all know?

The linemen are- You don't either. No, that's my point. The offensive linemen in Oklahoma are, what percentage of the Oklahoma collegiate athlete pool are even they at that one school? But go back to what I'm saying about the Big 12 sharing money for their TV deals. What about when he beat Texas Tech that year? What about when he beat Baylor that year? Like, do they not matter with?

Without them, he can't be Baker Mayfield. It's not like it's not like comedy. Do you know what I mean? Like, we exist in a bubble. Hold on, let me finish. We have fans in a bubble. They exist inside a company, inside an event where they play football. They

need everyone inside that conference. We're making two different arguments. You're saying, could Baker Mayfield be Baker Mayfield without his guard? I'm saying, could Baker Mayfield be Baker Mayfield without the goalie on the women's soccer? team. That's what I'm saying.

I'm with you, but I still think that the number's way bigger than 6%. First of all... It's probably somewhere between 6 and 60, but dog, it ain't 60. Well, again, I had forgotten about women and women and... Women and minorities, man, can not say, well, it's mostly minorities, let's be

honest. Well, that's it... And we can get into that. Fucking black kids making white people rich again. Yeah, yeah. Don't help. You still have a joke to where we abolished slavery and literally three years later, the NCAA had their first football game. Like, that's how long it took white people.

Three years, we're back in. Back in the game. But, I mean, it hits harder now. This is the best slavery we've done to date. That was tongue in cheek? I just... I used to have a joke about the NFL being the best version of gladiators we ever had. It's like everyone's talking about, oh, they got concussions.

and like, you know, I'm sympathetic of that, but at least they're not having to murder each other for their fucking meal that night, you know? Without doubt. Anyway, I hear what you're saying. In my head, I'm not, I'm sincerely not necessarily thinking about fucking water polo. But I am saying it shouldn't just be Eric Berry. Okay, so it's somewhere in between the two is what you're saying.

I feel like, what is that? What is that? How does that work? Right. That's what I'm saying. But I'm saying there's plenty of people who have written about how it could work. There's plenty of people who have been arguing about it. And then CAA don't want to have that conversation.

Well, no, of course they don't. And, dude, I mean, fuck them. Again, I do think that it's fucked up in a lot of cases. It's hard to understand you because all the grapes you're feeding yourself. Yeah. I do think it's fucked up. Before I go over here, does this passion fruit one hit? Yeah, it does.

It does. Before I go over here. Before I take two steps. We're eating macaramom. It's macaroons. What I meant was before I eat this thing, because I'm only allowing myself one more. It's macaroons. It's grapes.

It's us debating. Now, these people who are excellent at what they do, should they be paid even a dollar? What? It's crumbs, which is what you want to give NCAA athletes who are black, Trey. Well, you heard of here first, folks. Trey wants to give black athletes crumbs. He's too busy shoving crumbs in his mouth to debate that. This is unique.

Let's wrap this up. Crumbs is bread. Brett. Oh, you're trying to give him that bread. Crum's his bread. All right, y'all back. All right. Well, that's a good way here.

Crumbs is bread. Crumbs is bread. How much time is it, Corey? We're done. Hey. Oh, okay. Everybody, take over, revolt. Oh, also, Jake Head don't hit.

He doesn't deserve to be paid for even doing anything. And he doesn't. And he doesn't. And he doesn't. Yeah. Now I feel bad. Jake Head's hilarious. Yeah, he doesn't.

Do you work? You can't get paid marlboro points. That's true. All right. And the joke of his. Excuse me. Excuse me while I take money from NCAA. Don't go shit.

They don't. Thank you all for listening to the well-read show. We'd love to stick around longer, but we got to go. Tune in next week if you got nothing to do. Thank you, God. Bless you, good night, and skew.