wellRED podcast - #88 - Wheeler Walker Jr. Is Back Baby!

Episode Date: October 16, 2018

We've had a SHIT TON of requests to have him back and we are honored to bring to you all once again the man who is single handedly saving country music; Wheeler Walker Jr.In this episode we discuss everything from Charlottesville to country music to (you guessed it) whether or not Wheeler would fuck his future self.  Go To WheelerWalkerJr.com to pre order his new album WWIII which will be out on Nov. 30, and go holler at his other shit on iTunes and grab some singles that are already available. wellredcomedy.com for tickets to OUR shows smokeyboysgrilling.com for meat rubs! carvevodka.com to get drunk on CHO's fav vodka and Carve Your Own Path! 

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Wheeler Walker Jr., everybody. Actually, I'm stupid. Before we get into the interview, let's do something even better. Let's listen to a single from Wheeler Walker Jr.'s new album, WW3. This tune is called Fuck You with the Lights on. Sure to be a timeless classic. Here's Wheeler Walker Jr. Fuck you with the Lights on.

song, baby. Skew! When I fuck you with the lights on, I won't do it on to see them old titty's flapping, flip that switch, baby make it happen. Come on. It was our good buddy, Wheeler Walker, Jr. with

Fuck You with the Lights on off his new album, WW3, which will be available Friday, November 30th. You can get the new single now on iTunes, save some teddy milk for me. Also, you You can pre-order exclusive album bundles at his website,

Wheelerwalkerjr.com. Thanks for listening. Now on to the interview, sco-you- How about can... So, go over where you... I always forget where you guys are from. Say, I'm from a town called Salina, Tennessee, which is right on the Kentucky border.

I knew. Because I always thought Kentucky with you, but I remember... Do you know where Del Hall of Lake is down in Kentucky? There's part of it's in Kentucky. Berksville, Kentucky, Delhalla State Park, you know, any of that shit? Is that south? Yeah.

Southern Kentucky. Yeah, I mean, I'm central. Well, I'm right across the line from there. Yeah. I'm further east, but same situation in some bright Tennessee. And Corey is... Yeah, I'm North Georgia up right. You know where Chattanooga, Tennessee is?

Yeah, my family's from Chattanooga in Nashville, yeah, so I'm Chickamauga, Georgia, which is 12 minutes from Chattanooga. I normally claim Chattanooga, but... know. It's just easier to tell people. Yeah, but what sucks is I end up still doing this anyway. So, you know, Chickamauga. You guys, how about, any of you guys, Kentucky football fans?

You, no. Kentucky football, no, Tennessee. Yeah, man, we're terrible. Y'all are going to fuck our ass this year. We're looking good, I'll tell you that. Oh, yeah, no. I mean, we were in, we were in actually Louisville when y'all beat Florida. And, I mean, we were as pumped about it as a lot of the Kentucky people in the crowd

because we're fucking, hey, Florida. Fans in the meeting greet were hype because during the meeting greet is when they sealed the deal because that was a pretty close game. Yeah, we lost, I was playing a gig. The basketball team lost the tournament last year during a fucking gig and it killed me. Because I was playing and I'm like asking the score between songs and the second it hits you that the fucking basketball season's over. Oh, I know. Like it's just like I don't want to, I didn't want to be on stage. March Madness is my biggest thing.

I go to a different city with my friends every year and just fucking get drunk and gamble or whatever. Yeah, I've been happy that they've been in Nashville, you know. We were in Vermont. at the Vermont Comedy Club, and at this point in time, this was like two seasons ago or whatever, and Tennessee actually was doing well, and at that point, we're in the lead for the SEC East or whatever, but if we lost one more game,

it was basically over as far as, like, any real shot at the SEC championship or anything like that. We were playing South Carolina that night. We were beating South Carolina, and I went on stage, and we used to do a part at the end of our show, and sometimes still do, where the three of us are up there together. So I did my set, you know, 40 minutes or whatever,

and then they come out there, and Drew just told me, like, off mic, he was like, we fucking blew it, we lost. And I was immediately like... It takes the air out of you, man. Massively, because, again, that was our season, basically. Because you're the high from being on stage, and then the high from, like, coming off, man, we got a game Saturday, and it's just like...

Right. The show sucked. The fucking season's over. That's why I did that, was to take the air out of him. That's a good story. about me being an asshole. Sorry. No, I'm glad you told me.

I'm sorry about that. Anyway, but I do want an intro. It's great seeing you guys. Great to see you, buddy. Mr. fucking Walker. So, um, uh, so, uh, so I know it's your guys' podcast, but I have some questions for you guys.

Okay. You don't mind me asking. Take over. How's the, how's the, so what's the crowd been, because this is a fucking crazy time in America. Uh-huh. It's now the Wheeler Walker Jr.

podcast. But what are, what are the crowds like that you go? I mean, what's it is it political i mean people going crazy you know what let's fuck it let's get into that just a little bit uh

we're talking about charlottesville just well just in general because it happens a lot we have so all right our crowds are yeah pretty politically charged typically they're with the whole show because all three of us we don't stand up wise we make jokes that are political in nature we also talk about our relationships

stuff like that or whatnot and like the crowds are great they love it it's going well but any time any time any one of us even says Trump or like I have a punchline Rochelle Mitch McConnell like anything like that they fucking lose their minds you know at any kind of like in like a party way yeah yeah but prematurely at the premise yeah I got to get you guys to jump out during one of my kid rock yeah but but the thing with that is sometimes times and it's not it's a it's a minority of people and also i get where they're coming from but like because of all that we hear quite often uh in the meet and greets or stuff after the shows

some people will be disappointed that we weren't up there doing basically like a bill marset like from real time you know what i mean like ripped from the headlines and making jokes on the shit that happened that week politically or whatever because like people don't and i get it They don't understand how standup works, but, like, you know, Bill Maher has a literal room filled with writers. If you had a bus behind you of 20 riders, yeah, you do the fucking daily. We could do that. We could do the daily show. And if we were, you know, honestly interested in that, I get tired of talking about the news. I don't want to do that all the time.

Yeah, I mean, I mean, that's the thing, too, is being a, is, I remember, Trey, you tell me once that you opened up for Isbel. and he referred to egos he's not the liberal redneck he's a liberal right now is that what he says it's just like being a whatever your policy it's just not I mean I grew up in Lexington

Kentucky's not the fucking boonies you know there were liberals conservatives everything and I just the politics to me is just overtaking everything it's just like I just the part that pisses me off about politics so much is I mean, I had friends whose parents voted, like, one voted for fucking Mondale, one voted for Reagan.

Like, it didn't break up families nowadays. It's just like, it's back. I don't want to say civil war time. We're not at war, but it feels like that way sometimes. It's just like there's like. The stakes feel higher. I don't know if that's true or not. I think they got to be, man, because we're all feeling.

I tell people all the time, and I don't, you're right, Lexington, his little day. I did grow up in the boonies. And first of all, a lot of my buddies that I grew up with, Not all of them by any measure, but a good number of them are on the same page with me politically about a lot of shit, even growing up in the fucking backwoods. But my experience growing up there for most of my life, like, I would have described most people as more like politically apathetic. Like the general sense was more like, ah, they're all full of shit. Fuck them all. You know what I mean?

But it certainly was not this like rabid, like signs in the yard on the truck. I was going to say the same fucking thing. That's the part that drives me the most fucking crazy is when I was, when I grew up, it's like, now you got to have an opinion. Back then you, it's like don't have an opinion. It was just like, you know. You got to take a side. Especially growing up listening to music, it was always like, fuck the man, fuck the man.

And now it's just like. To me, that's kind of proof that the stakes are higher now. I mean, wouldn't you think like if back then you didn't feel like you had to have one. And now people who were that dude back in the day now are like, all right, goddammit it's it's lying in the same time don't you think it's got it has to have broken up marriages right dude i've seen people tweet out divorce your fucking republican husband and like it you know this shit getting retweeted doesn't uh fuck i mean like just like we saw it at a show yeah oh we did that's right it was in columbus oh you mentioned charlottesville i want to hear about this okay i'll

tell one thing first pre-order my new album w w3 go on we're going to talk about we're talking about So in Columbus, what we saw was a woman coming up in the meet and greet. And she was like kind of whispering like, this is my husband. He's conservative. You know, he still had a good time. And she was hammered. And he was. He was.

He was trying to be nice. He was like, man, you guys were actually really funny. I enjoyed a lot of the jokes, blah, blah, blah. This was just me and Trey. Corey was at a wedding, I think. And, but then we went out into the parking lot, you know, just later, like had a few drinks with the staff or whatever it was we did. And then we see her. was it her?

Yeah, her standing there and he just like pills out. White smoked it out of there and his big truck left her in the parking lot and just fucking

so she was, she was into it or she was or wasn't it? She was our fan, she was into it. But again, when we talked to the guy, he was like,

yeah, I don't agree with y'all, but you guys are funny. I had a good time. It seemed fine. Now, it had been 45 minutes. They had gotten into a fight. To be fair,

it might not have been about us. I felt like that meeting green was the beginning of it. Well, But she also said some rude things about it. My thing into something like that probably would have, they were doomed. Right, right. But what you said about like, what's so great?

And how it's, yeah, different and way more like charged and fucking rage-filled and all this shit now. Like, to be completely fair, also in my hometown where I grew up, in that same interim, like since I was a kid there between then and now, things have just continuously gotten shittier and shittier for everybody in that fucking town. And so people are like, people there in particular have just gotten like scared,

mad, fucking just, you know, confused. They want to blame shit on people. Like they've just gotten more like fired up in general. And I understand the reasons why. But obviously I feel like they misdirect the fuck out of all of that shit that they have as a response to it you know what i mean they don't get mad at

the right people to get mad at a lot of times well misdirection is an interesting like thinking about rage and like where you place it so charles my career is fucking rage i mean that was the thing too that i mean country music the country music audience is just like i mean i know people i mean here's here's i'll tell you the dirty truth right now to country listeners listen to your podcast i'm sure you got plenty. Every country musician you know, minus the maybe two or three obvious ones are fucking

liberal as fucking shit. Just, you guys, I take my word for it. You're not the only person that's told me that. I mean, I've heard, and I just don't want to name name because it's not my place to say, but the top ones you think are Mr. fucking, I mean, I'm talking about people

who played the fucking Trump inauguration that I know it's a bit and that they're actually, you know, liberal because every guy it's just a it's just that kind of makes me hate them worse yeah I mean that's why we need wheeler well my my thing too is

is like I just I'm I don't go on fucking sides but like I just don't give a shit about what I say when I saw Charlottesville I fucking spoke out about it on my fucking social media right and I I've never seen so much fucking backlash dude I'm like

fucking like what the fuck happened to America I'm like we're not Are we all anti-Nazi? You know Hayes Carl? Hayes-Carle singer-songwriter. He did this podcast, and we were talking about Charlottesville, and he said, he basically

said what you just said, like, spoke out against it, and he was like, and he was being sincere, too. He was like, man, you know, I didn't feel like I was making any real polarizing statement by being like, fuck Nazis, but apparently I was wrong. Well, that was the thing, too, is because, so obviously I'm a narcissist. I got a Wheel Walker Jr. Google alert. And that night I get, you know, here's the fucking country artists who didn't say

fucking article. Here's the country artist who spoke out about Charlottesville. I was in every fucking article. Like, because nobody fucking opened their... See? You always say they don't list you and finally you're getting your dude. The other thing too is, I mean, the other day, I mean, this is how polarizing is.

Like, there's this country guy. I don't... He seems like I've heard he's a really super nice dude, but I think it's kind of pop country. I don't know what shit. His name's Jimmy Allen. Black guy. I know. But anyway, he's a black guy, and I follow him on Twitter.

And he tweeted, you know, I don't care what you guys say about my race. I love country music. Something like that. And I tweeted back. I retweeted and put like, you know, who are these fucking guys fucking with you about being black? You know, I'll fucking take these fuckers out. And it made the fucking news. I was just about to say I think I've heard of him.

And it's just because I follow you on Twitter. Yeah, I was just, but I was like, I was like, I'm like, dude, did I really make the fucking news? you know, I have a publicist and shit, which I'm obviously overpaying. All I do is say I don't like Nazis, and I'm not a racist. That makes the fucking... I made the news for saying,

don't... That's a whole career. Yeah, but I made the news... No, that's true. I made the news for saying don't hate black people just because they're black. Yeah.

And which I don't think is a fucking revolutionary thing. Dude, like he just said, and there's a lot of truth to it, like, I really never considered myself a political comedian. Well, I came across... like I can't really deny it, but the reason

I say that is because I felt like I mostly talked about things that were like, beyond politics, like if you disagree with what I'm saying right now, as far as we shouldn't lynch all trans people or whatever, then fuck politics, you just fucking suck. Like,

you're a shitty person and fuck you forever, you know, but it's political. Yeah, I mean, everything's fucking, it just drives me fucking crazy. Well, it's just been driving me crazy on Twitter with these like quote unquote they call themselves like hardcore centrist and I'm like look if you want me to compromise about the economy like I mean I don't want to I'm a kind of guy who wants to set a

bank on fire but like I get your stance but if you're telling me to compromise with people who as you said are getting mad that you support a black guy I'm like that well that's the thing too is I'm the first to admit that I'm just I don't really fucking understand politics right so when I see an issue like Charlottesville so fucking simple it's like finally someone that something I can understand man. Right. Everyone knows the fuck.

Nazis. Like my, I have a lot of family members who died fighting Nazis. They're buried in Nashville. I, you know, being in Nashville occasionally a great aunt or someone will fucking die. They got no friends.

I've got to be a fucking pallbearer. I got to, you know, take them to their grave. And I always see, like, my relatives, you know,

it hits me real hard when I see died at 22, you know, in 1943. You know why they died. Yeah, I mean, yeah. And it breaks my heart.

It's like they fucking died fighting Nazis. Why the fuck are we fighting in 2017 or what was it? No. It's like, you guys want to hear of something real scary. My nephew, he's 13. I had to show him videos of the kids who go by the name Antify getting the fuck beat out of him there by Nazis. I had to like show him that video because he had been told him. quote learned on YouTube that, you know, Antify was really who caused and started all the violence.

And I told him, I was like, look, man, I'm not the uncle who's going to tell you how to feel. Like, if you don't like Antifa, if you think that their response to this is too violent or whatever, that's great. You're forming your own opinions. But I can't say here and hear you say they caused the problems when the other people were literal Nazis. And he said to me, what do you mean literal Nazis? And I showed him the video of them, like, wearing Nazi symbols. And he was like, oh shit. Yeah, I mean, and a name, again, I won't name his name, but a name country artist called me that night after I said that thing.

Because apparently in country music, that's fucking taking a scene. He goes, I really appreciate what you said, man. He goes, my grandfather, you know, fought in World War II, so it means a lot to me. And I go, I wanted to be like, I go, all our fucking grandpas fought in fucking World War II were fucking Americans. We all fought the Nazis. That's one. Yeah, they didn't give them a choice back then. just if you were a papaw in

1942 Yeah I mean you know My great uncles and you know Grandpa they didn't want to fight but you know But they loved America they wanted to fucking fight like and I In one of the the videos about the whole Nazi shit I said you know

What would your fucking papal say right now Because like all these like red ass motherfuckers that were on the other side when Charlottesville happened The ones that got mad at you for like Every goddamn one of their pap halls that you know taught them how to be a man and all this shit. Right. Like, hated fucking Nazis. I've said this.

I've said this. I've said this before, but I definitely think it plays here. Just one thing that I'm completely sick of, I'm sure you are, is that, look, as a liberal, I'm either a goddamn huge snowflake pussy who don't want any fucking conflict at all, or I'm inciting riots in Virginia and I'm beating the fuck out of people and I'm the cause of death. It can't, like, just pick a fucking side. You can't call me both.

Either I'm one or the other. I can't be both. Yeah, that Snowflake thing is like, drives me fucking crazy, too, man, it's just like, you know,

it's like, I know you are, but what am I? But it's just, but it's also like, they're crying and I don't like him like crying and being a baby and they're calling you fucking snowflake.

They're the most sensitive, they can't, any kind of criticism or anything like that lobbed it, any one of their beliefs or positions that lose their fucking mind. It'd be different if we were talking economic policy or something, right. You could win an argument with me about, but talking about this that we're talking about, I'm trying to think what else I think. People.

But you get, again, the Jimmy Allen thing, like, if you want to, if you just want to say, I don't like black people, I don't want to listen to someone who supports a black artist. Didn't say it, just, just fucking say it, man. It's not a, it's not a political, what I said was not a fucking political statement. Right. And, I mean, when I first came across your videos, I just, I liked them because they were funny. You know, the comedy, to me always came first. it was like that's fucking funny and it's funny you know because most of my

you know I don't really tend to hear that argument that side of the argument with an accent you know because where I come from people don't get fired up about you know on the other side but you know so it's just I just I just I always wanted my

albums as crazy as they are to be like kind of inclusive to everyone it's like let's here's a break from the fucking news we come here we sing about fucking and pussy and sucking dicks and, you know, sing about my fucking asshole. If that ain't universal, I don't fucking... Exactly.

Whoever's against that, I don't really want to compromise with it. Which, by the what, so... Before we, well, I did want to, okay. I wanted to get Charlottesville off my chest because you kept asking about what happened. So it was just weird, right? So, like, after the show and the meet and greet... I actually didn't know weird about it at all that night.

That night was great. We had a first responder from there who was at our show. She thanked us. She said that some of Trey's videos, Wait a second. Where was the show? Charlottesville. The show was in Charlott'sville. Yeah, it was in Charlottesville at the Paramount.

She said she was an EMT and she said she was on that call with the lady who died at the, like, Heather Hether Higher. And she was saying that some of his videos was the first time she laughed and that night out. Literally that night we were experiencing was the best night she felt like she had had since then. It's been just over a year. And, you know, I have a joke where I sort of reference. Richard Spencer indirectly. They got some, like, booze, but then laughs.

And I felt like, oh, like, we brought it up, but we laughed about it. He was one of the all-right leaders. He was there. He was the one who started the chant blood and soil, blood and soil. He's the face of the guy who ran over Heather McHugh. For all y'all listening, no, no, he's that motherfucker that they made that funny gif on Twitter. He got punched in the face in Washington or some shit.

The joke goes about how the South got blamed for all the, But the joke is about how the South got blamed for all that. And you could tell that dude isn't Southern because he has straight teeth and dressed like Ryan Seacrest. And it got like some booh, because they didn't want to think about it. And then it got some laughs for it. It was just an offhand joke about carnies. I'm literally talking about carnies. And in that joke, I talk about, and we can bring Wheeler into this.

This is how we transition. I'm talking about finger banging when you're 12 at the fair. And I say with consent, God damn it, everybody relaxed. Because, you know, let's read the room here or whatever. and obviously I'm personally sore about this but we got an email from a lady who was just like I didn't come here for this misogynistic shit and you know what is it with no explanation as to why

consensual finger-banging at 13 year old is misogynistic I would agree people got to calm the fuck down I mean talking about fucking ain't like political you know consensual sex is how we pro fucking create it's not like it's not a political statement it's not a misogical to say. Right. But it wasn't just this one email about Drew's bid.

I mean, that was one of them. But, like, we got an inordinate amount of messages that were in the vein of, you know, I thought you guys were going to be talking about Kavanaugh and Trump and the things that are going on right now. And, like, some dudes said something like, you know, if I wanted to go, if I wanted to hear Jeff Foxworthy, I'd go to a Jeff Foxworthy show. But, like, again, dude, all of it, like, I have a bit where I compare rednecks to ISIS, you know. You know, I have a bit about fucking basically getting drunk on the tears of angry white people. Now, you know, we fucking cover the bases.

Now, but it's not, we're not making jokes about the headline. Now, now that's the thing to is they, they need you so bad that that they, they just, they don't want the, it's like, it's almost like we need the fucking, because then the one, here's where I'll agree with Trump, 100%. He's raised the ratings on the fucking news. and then people's interested in interest in I'm about interest but watching the news and paying attention to all that shit just because he's

Yeah, it's a train wreck, can't look away But it's like it's but it's polarizing And he's a fucking reality It's still I don't care which I know just I remember They want us to be the opposite But I remember watching like I was watching a Rogan podcast

Because I called buddies of mine were on it And um Rogan's it was a day after the election Rogan said And someone said man it's weird Weird Trump want This is weird to think Donald Trump's the president, which to me is a very logical thing to say. He's a fucking host of a fucking game show, reality show.

And Joe Rogan goes, yeah, man, it's fucking weird. And of course, eight million fucking comments. Just to say it's weird. But, yeah, Rogan, you fucking, what is it? You fuck, cuck, lib-tard, man. Rogan would, by the way, beat the shit out of literally anybody that's on his issue. He's a shit. I was just like, can we just talk? Like, I thought, I mean, Reagan, it was weird that Reagan was an actor.

This guy was literally a fucking reality show. It was weird that Obama got elected, honest to God, because he went up against a fucking white war hero. That was weird. I'm glad to happen, but it was, like, if you think about it, kind of weird. And I don't, yeah. And he's black with a Muslim name. It's weird. It's a little weird.

Yeah, but it's weird. But exactly. And I don't think people on the other end would have got pissed about that. I was just thinking I might be to blame about the in-ordering amount of emails because The thing about we've never got those before, and I changed my act completely after we recorded the album. Now, I ain't talking about no bullshit, but, like, up top, my first 10 to 12 minutes are just about me getting married. But then in the middle, I do talk about the Civil War and some shit. So, like, that may be on me.

I don't know. The first two emails were about me and him, but if you want to make it about you, that's cool. You know, I like the well-red comedy trio, they always take the blame for it. That's what I was saying. Well, but the reason I brought that up, two reasons. one is you know you said how was charlottesville i think it was great by the way it was the show was it was it was but i you know from the amount of emails in general and and how thankful the other side the people who enjoyed the show how thankful they were like really grateful they were it's still

fucking broken it's still healing number one i'll say that but then number two and i'm not going to ask you to commit to this one way or the other but for me and i obviously i'm biased i'm liberal or whatever, but our crazy people are mad that you're talking about finger-banging and they don't want you to. And their crazy people are literal Nazis. That's just how I feel right now. I mean, I don't have a counter-argument to that. It's the truth. I mean, the Charlottesville thing was the first, I would say the most angry I'd been at politics in general in a good decade at least. I was just like, this is not real. The president didn't say both, so, it's just not possible that he said that.

Rewind, watch it again. What the fuck is going on here? Like, you know. Because who the fuck in their right mind would look at a situation like that? Yeah. There's bad people on both sides. And when one of the sides are literally nuts. And also, like, it's crazy. Like, dude, so him

thinking, like, that's him pandering to his side obviously, but like all he had to do would just be like, what a tragedy. We've got to get to the bottom of this. And then that's a fine statement to make. But he had to say, well, who knows, there's people on both sides. It's fine. We don't know. Like, you don't, he, I've never seen anyone who just had to suck the party lines dick so goddamn hard. Because trust me, Obama didn't do that. And I know because of how many times during

Obama's administration, Trey would text me or talk like, man, don't you think he could go a little harder on fucking this or like, don't you think he could be better on weed or blah, blah, blah, blah. I used to tell people all the time, my like, red ass buddy during the Obama administration, I'd be like, I'll tell you something right now. Then I don't know if you realize, my number one problem with Barack Obama is that he ain't liberal enough. Exactly. Like, y'all think he's the

fucking commie Muslim anti-guise because of how liberal it is. He ain't liberal enough, dog. That's my only problem with it. Yeah, my thing too is just people just have their they're just stuck on their mind. You know, it's like, you know,

I have this new song, I like smoking pot a lot. I'll play that opening up for Kid Rock. There was this new song, man, they should fucking legalize weed. It's the song called I Smoke and Pottle. They fucking smoke and pot. scream and you know but trust i guarantee you the people there they're people they love in office do not want pot legalize it's like they just don't under they i was just earlier this year i did this

like documentary piece for this other company's pilot that didn't get made so it's not out there anywhere you can't find it or nothing but i went to tennessee to cover at the time tennessee had a medical marijuana bill coming up to be voted on so i there's no fucking way but i hope I wish. Well, it already happened and it didn't go. But this was back in January. And I went there and the two guys that co-sponsored to bill, the state legislators, both Republicans. And so I went there to like cover this, right? So I talked to them. I talked to like other state level politicians and like journalists and Nashville and all this stuff. And the thing that pissed me off the most about it, it was the craziest part to me is like all these people that were on the ground floor of this shit and watching it go on. The co-sponsors and everything. I would be like, okay, so with your constituents and you're part of the state and everything like that, like what kind of opposition do you see to medical marijuana from people like out in Tennessee and the rural parts, whatever? And every one of them, even the ones that were staunchly opposed to it, every one of them would be like,

oh, not really, not very much. They're like most people are either, you know, they just don't really care or they're for it. But there's not much of an opposition to this. That's the thing, I mean, among the people. And so, and then, and then my. follow-up question would be, so what do you think the possibility is of this actually

passing? And every one of them would be like 50-50 at best, probably worse. And so then I'll be like, why? Why the fuck? How could that possibly be the case? And they'd be like, well, some of my cohorts in state Congress, they just haven't been swayed yet. And I would be like, what the, how the fuck

is their opinion even relevant? Who gives a fuck what they think? Well, I mean, that's because I just did one of my great honors. I to an interview with high times and they were asking me i was like yeah and i was just i was talking about the new the new tune and they were like you know what's your opinion on it and again not trying to be political i was just like i grew up and obviously in kentucky tons of my friends families were tobacco farmers i'm like and they're hurting right now and i don't and i'm listen tobacco cigarettes are bad for you i get it i'm not i understand that but if they could

sell they could they could grow cannabis it would fucking change their fucking lives. Just him. But Kentucky's economy would turn around. What the fuck are we doing? And I'm starting to,

I will say I'm starting to see more of like the old fogies back home in Kentucky with the, you know, legalize it, whatever their version of legalize it. You know who it is? The bumper stickers?

And they would tell me that like straight up, uh, these Republican state legislators, as far as the opposition to it where it's coming from, of course it's lobbyists. And the lobbyists are for,

um, law enforcement and, Private prisons primarily. And then also, like, more kind of shady on the edges, the big pharmaceutical companies, but mostly private prisons and law enforcement. I never thought about that how much money the prisons make from that. When it comes to, like, out of the biggest thing. Isn't it crazy that people make money off prison? It's such bullshit.

You said you grew up in Lexington, right? Yeah. There are, I think, three within 80 miles of where you grew up. There's one federal and two state. and then if you count brushy which is about 115 miles i'm sorry now it's morgan county correctional facility where i'm from where's the so when you drive out of like a 130-ish miles from me there's a almost like a prison kind of rehab center that i always was told as a kid growing up that william burrows stayed at for a while i don't remember see i don't

even know about that one there's one near whitesburg there's one just north of oh nana which is scott county in tennessee it's in and that's where my brother-in-law works that one's federal I'm just saying that I mean some of these are government but a lot of them are private and it's in Tennessee too it's just such a oh this provides jobs

and we're doing the right thing we're putting people behind bars how would you fuck you sleep at night knowing that if people's lives are ruined you make a better living I don't understand that. Like a baby because you can't do that job unless you don't give a fuck

one of the most powerful politicians and opponents to the bill at that time was this lady named Dying Black and she was super super opposed to it it and she uh her husband their fortune that they have as a couple is from a uh drug testing company busting people for smoking weed basically so like there's such a clear and direct conflict of interest there but you know it doesn't matter well that's one way that i can't figure out why we can't all get together on some issues like you just said you go and you do your show and you're

in front of kid rock friends and you have to assume a lot of them vote differently than i do but then you talk about yeah let's fucking get high and they're like hell yeah i was i was they won't they won't think diane black is cool they won't think the chick who got rich i was gonna say i was i was gonna say if you said the same thing at your show i'd better be the exact same fucking that's what i'm saying so it's just like what the fuck are we doing is it is it our fault like not our fault like the three of us specifically is it the fault of like should there be more like hey let's come together and i don't i don't know how to do that i don't know how to like well you used to be i mean get all them fans together

It used to be, you know, like, you know, like when they would vote for the Supreme Court justice, because I was just watching this recently. I remember as a kid, though, it was like the votes were like 98 to 2, 97 to 3, and now it's just like, it's just you. For non-sexual assaughters. But it's just like, but it's Democrat, you just vote for fucking, I hate this fucking just voting down the party lines. Like, does anybody want to, you know, on either side fucking take a stand outside of your fucking. No, they don't. because they end up wanting to be lobbyists for the goddamn pill companies that are the reason that Tennessee and Kentucky won't pass fucking weed.

And again, it's one of those things where it's like, everybody, well, we just want to do what the people want to do. And weed's like the clear example of, no, the fuck you don't. Because every, as you said earlier, like, you sing that song to all these people and they're like, woo, fuck you. you in, you're like, nobody that you vote for has that interest at heart. they don't every motherfucker that I know from my hometown all my old boys

like you know my friends that like yeah some of them are apolitical but a lot of them voted for fucking drunk they fucking smoke weed

they think that's totally righteous and totally cool and that nobody should fuck with their god damn nobody should fuck with our right

to do this I'm like right well why do you keep voting these motherfuckers in that just want well that you know gays

blah blah blah yada yada yada yada and then everything then the other things they bitch about are just like it's god damn

cancer treatment $3,000 for one single sitting in a chair. I'm like, right, so I think what you want is socialized medicine. You know what I mean? The health care thing also, I got to say, is a real heartbreaker for me, man, because I've been there, and you guys,

I know I've all been there. It just breaks my heart. Anyone who has to have a job just for the health insurance, because you should be able to, you know, a job should be a cent, we're lucky guys. We get to do what we love for living, but you shouldn't have to be at a job just so,

you can fucking pay your fucking medical. We are, but my wife, Amber, still works as a teacher, so we can have her health insurance. Yeah, and that fucking career. I mean, just like... She has to keep doing that. She doesn't, I mean, like, not saying she wants to stop doing it, but she's married to that job right now because that's where our insurance comes from. It's just crazy. It's like, what do you do?

I mean, if, like, and I don't understand it. Like, if you're, like, and you guys are in this, you know, in showbiz, like, me, which is, I don't know if you guys have this, but, like, all the time I get these fucking, I get Facebook posts, like, there's a, I got, I'll be getting them now for 20 years. So-and-so got in a car wreck, fundraiser tonight. Oh, yeah. Bands. Here are the bands playing, here the, let's raise money for his fucking, to get, I was like. You want us to shit on liberals. and I'm like, you know, and be fair or whatever.

Hillary Clinton just tweet shared, someone who worked for hers fundraiser to get his cancer treatments paid for. And I'm like, you said single payer would never work, and you can pay for it. You're rich. Yeah, well, my point was just like, why the fuck we got to play,

I mean, I don't mind playing the game, but why do I have to fucking pay, play a fucking show just so you don't, so my buddy doesn't die. Right. It's like, so it's just like we don't, We can't take care of our own fucking people. Especially when we have what we have.

It would be one thing. Like, you know, I hear this a lot back home from in-laws and people of my family. You're just entitled. You just think that you just deserve medical. That's not how the world works. You don't just get stuff for free. And I'm like, well, I would agree with you if this country was struggling overall. But when I see these senators say what you just said while they have the best health care in the world.

And these, you know, like people who aren't paying their fair share of tax. and they're super rich saying the same thing. No, that's not what's happening here. We have plenty. If you had some sort of government health insurance that you could even made it somewhat affordable, couldn't you give you the freedom to start your own business, realize your fucking dreams, try to play music, do whatever it is. It's just like, I'm saying that the argument on the other side has pretty much always been like,

okay, what Drew just said, you're not entitled to health care. You just, you know, people are so entitled nowadays. and why should we have to pay for their health care? Like, I've got my own children to think of, you know, that type of thing. My thing with that has always been like, okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.

So basically what you're saying is we need to just let poor people die. Like when they get sick or whatever and they're poor, we just allow them to die, right? That's what you're saying. And almost every time these people will be like, no, no, no, it's not what I'm saying. but like but it is because you have no other answer for it we have to let poor people die and if you're if you're enough of a hardcore fucking far out conservative to just straight up be like yes you should die if you should let poor people die then like you know what i respect you for being logically consistent but like no country that claims to be the greatest country on earth should be just allowing its citizens to die because they're poor yeah i mean so what the fuck else are we going to do i always think about my aunt who's a nurse in Nashville. She always tell me, it's like, you know, she goes into the, you know, the bad parts of Nashville, helps, you know, tries to help people out. Shout out nurse Walker. Yeah, shout out. Well, other side of the family, but anyway. So we, we, um, don't go, don't go,

Nashville, don't go ask for a nurse Walker. So, um, but, but, but she's like, you know, you do know that the poor people, groceries, a lot fucking different than the rich people. Like, the poor people grocery sells you that fucking sodium-filled shit they're killing these fucking people hell yeah it's like that fucking you know the sodium and salt and all this shit that's fucking whatever the

I don't know the hell shit but like high fruit the shit and coke high fructose corn syrup and shit it's just like they're poisoning but it's like it's cheap it's easy and they're killing these fucking people and like it's just like you know if you're gonna

if that's all they can afford to eat they're gonna get sick they're going to go to the fucking hospital. And there's got to be a way where we can each raise our bill by fucking three bucks or something. So somebody doesn't, like, can just at least get the cancer treatment to try, give their mom a shot of living. Also, for the record, I know people that work, I've dated a lot of nurses. And when you just allow, when poor people don't have access to health care and when they eat all this sodium shit and then their heart clunks out, they're going to the emergency room and you're paying for that. Because if they die, you're paying for that no matter what.

Because they won't just let them die. Right. Of course they won't. The Hippocratic oath will not allow them to let them die. I know, but I'm saying the only way to fix that is to just let them die. That's what I'm saying. When they go to the emergency room, who pay, I'm being free. Taxpayers.

Taxpayers. Because, so when you go emergency bill, so they're not, like, just a poor person is not going to be able to even pay the goddamn, the ambulance ride, period. The ambulance stride is, I mean, I'm speaking out of my ass here, but I know it's a thousand at least something bucks. But that's only because of what you're talking about. That's what I was, my. That's what I mean. You're paying for it no matter what. We don't allow poor people to die in this country.

But we also don't have socialized health care. But also if they had health care, am I wrong? They would get checkups, hopefully. Yes. And they wouldn't get you there. But also, it's not have the goddamn emergency. Because we don't have socialized medicine and also do not allow poor people to die, what happens is poor people who don't have insurance, they get injured or sick enough.

if they go to the hospital and then they can't pay that. And those costs, by the medical companies in the hospital and everything, those costs get spread out amongst everything else, which is why any of us have to pay $500 for a fucking aspirin if you go to the doctor or whatever, because they're subsidizing their lost fees from the poor people that can't pay. So the whole emergency room system, that's why everything's so expensive in this country. It's so literally written off. I mean, what better time to jack up somebody's price when they're fucking emergency?

Well, they can say no, forget it. Right. Right. Well, they can write that off, too. Kevin T. We've talked about on the podcast. He broke his leg one time. He went, and long story short, he didn't have insurance.

He went to the head of the hospital and was like, hey, man, just write this off. I'm not going to pay you. I'm never going to pay you. I know I don't have to. I'm not going to fucking do it. And I can't. I'm a student. I'm poor.

We were like 20. And the guy just rode it off on his taxes. on the hospital's taxes like a 40th, that's what they do. They ride them off. They artificially inflate, whatever. They inflate all those prices, everything for everybody. Because they don't expect to ever get all of it. They just want to get some of it.

So he's right. If you just go to him, they're like, I can't pay you $1,000 a month to cover that surgery. And they're like, could you do five? You know, and they'll take five. They'll take five for the rest of the world. I got a relative right now who's in can't. It won't see their name, of course. cancer treatment and he has insurance and like he takes these he's finally found a something that helps

and it's like it's just some kind of pill that i'm not making this up it's like 50,000 a pill i mean like it wouldn't even be in the conference if you didn't have health insurance he would have just been like i don't even want to try it you know it's just it i mean literally cost him nothing because it's on health insurance just like so if you're poor you're going to die from fucking cancer you can't even try the pill imagine if you and also what kind of fucking what's in the fucking pill. For 50 grand it better be fucking, you know. Blowing you too? Well, 50 grand, yeah,

it better be fucking Superman semen or something, you know. Well, imagine if you had 100 grand and you did two of the pills and it started working and then you ran out of money. Like, everything about that is disgusting. But $50,000 fee, I got to assume they know no one's, except for...

Two chains haven't even taken $50,000 pills. Like, that's ridiculous. Yeah, exactly. I want to believe he is, but I hear you. But yeah, I mean, there's nobody without... They're just ripping people off. I have a question that I feel like we should have asked earlier. You were talking about the song that got us started down this road, where you're singing this song in front of folks who, you know,

anyway, we already cover that. What's the name of the song? I like smoking pot a lot. It's called I like smoking pot a lot. I'm sorry, I think you did. I think you did say that, and I just interpreted it. You don't know my new fucking songs, man? You know what I do know?

Okay. You know what I do know? Okay. You don't listen to the radio? It's up in, they've been playing. on fucking on fucking Kiss FM non- So you got the new album

Even when I know that one And it's a masterpiece Oh yeah By the way Don't talk too much about it Because we're talking to only a few people Who've heard this fucking record Yeah we're some of the tires

For you guys So when's it drop? It's such a masterpiece man I'm really happy with this record As I did with fucking fighting and farting I called my wife immediately After I heard it and I was like He's done it again

He's got one that's even more of us and it's even when well this is my first it's my first love album which is because I got married and I had a son I was like let's just do my version of what a fucking love basically my sailor's god I did it I described it

and I told him it it's a concept or it's an album about that by the way I heard these songs today and I told Sturgel that and he was like I was just like but all I was like too I was like you know I heard these songs today and before I heard these songs today and before I heard him he described me what the album was and I go so Sturgle but better but it was also but I mean I love that record I will say but of course but but um it was also it's just like when you have a wife

and you get a kid it's just like these songs just like what the fuck I'm not going to write about right fighting fucking farting right now it's like I write about my fucking life and that's what I was doing you know so when's it when's it actually dropped November 30th November 30th? November 30th Damn, boys. Yeah. You got it really fucking early. That's awesome. Well, yeah, it's fucking awesome.

It's just, you just keep. Yeah, we got that's awesome for me, dog. Oh, thanks, man. I really appreciate it. I mean, it's fucking, I'll tell you what, man. Music business is fucking tough. I mean, the first two records did really well for me. And then, like, I'm already starting to notice with the third record.

I hope I'm wrong, but you, it's like, it's hard to keep people's, you guys notice as comedians. It's hard to keep people's interest. Like, yeah. It's like everyone. It's show to show for us, apparently. What's that? I'm saying it's show to show for us.

Show to show. Yeah, like, well. Show to show. What do you think I said? I thought you said a show to show. Yeah, I don't talk right. No, you did. Yeah, you put out three really good records and you're just starting to see it.

We just do a show in Charlottesville where I talk about my wife and everybody's like, boo. So, yeah, I hear you. But the thing is what I've noticed about, and, like, the press is, like, they always need the fucking story. And once you get to like album three or like it's like there's no story. It's like album one was this guy put out a crazy fucking record. Album two is the follow up to the crazy record. And the album three is that they're just like dude puts out another album. It's just like they don't have a hook, you know, and there's no hook to it to it.

It's just like I'm back to square one again, which I don't mind. I feel like you've nailed it though. This is completely different than the other two that you've done. Well, I hope you, I mean, to me it is. Yeah, I mean, it's just, it's just been, I've noticed that, listen, the album hasn't come out yet, so I'm just, I'm also, you know, I also overly worried about both the record. Has fatherhood changed you? Yeah, I mean, I like, it's just, it's weird to be on the fucking road, you know. Yeah, it sucks, man.

Well, and what, while my fucking kids at home and my, I would say marriage, well, listen, when I saw my wife's, and this is the terms I put in, when you see a, your son come out of your wife's pussy fucking life changes man right when you see a human life come out of your wife's pussy and you're just like okay like what am I gonna do like I'm not gonna sing about eating pussy

sucking dick kicking ass know but you still do sing about eating pussy and sucking but I also but it's also like my verse it's like more heart it's looking at it's the heart and it's the love songs through my fucking fucking fucking fucking fucking fucked up by through my fucked up ones I also have a song in the new record

which I'm curious to see how it goes over with people. It's called, I sucked another dick last night. It's fantastic. I'm glad you brought it about it, because you said I don't want to mention too many of the titles, but like, on every record, you have addressed that side of yourself. Here's my thing.

My two favorite things in the world are country music and pissing people off. And I know for whatever, I just have never had problems with gay people. It doesn't fucking bother me. It's fucking all. And I know songs singing about gay shit is going to get country fans pissed off. So I can't get out of the studio until I write that fucking song. Right. And because it's going to fucking pisses people.

And I want to sell records. I want to be successful, but I also want to stir shit up, you know. But is Wheeler Walker Jr. a bisexual? I think that's what... Here's what Wheeler Walker Jr. is a straight man who blacks out of... a lot and sucks some dick and shit goes down

I don't listen it could go it could have gone further than that I've woken up with a sore ass I don't know what happened right but shit goes down yeah no

I identify whatever that is that's my sexual I got fucking I call it like drunk sexual you know it's just like but I got so many friends

who do so much like no one sucks more dicks than drunk red necks right I mean all these guys I mean I hear so many

talking stories about the old days, these old dudes. Again, I won't name their names. Name four. I'm kidding. But, like, I just, because I don't know if they're true, was like, so-and-so, man. You went back in the opera, backstage at the opera. And some of these are famous stories, like, you know, not famous people, or people tell, you know, and this dude was sucking so-and-so's dick.

And the dude and the so-and-so are both, like, country musicians? Is that what you mean? Well, usually it's the dudes, once you get to a certain point in a country star, you ain't doing the suck, and you're getting your dick suck. Okay. But, you know, it's just kind of... So George Jones was getting his dick suck. Yeah.

Well, Garth Brooks was sucking George Jones's dick. No, but just, you know... Is that why you never got to play the rhyme until last year? Yeah, they wouldn't allow it. Well, the story I heard was this famous country star. They walked... One of his buddies walked in, a dude was sucking his dick, and he goes... He just looked up at his buddy, goes, a mouth-a-mouth.

Yeah. And I'm just like... Been saying it? I've been saying it. He has been saying. I had it. That's true. It ain't never happened to me, but I've always been like, I mean, I'm married now, so it's a cheat.

But that's my only reason. I don't think it's cheating. If I wasn't, I'm saying, like, I've said it before, and I'll say it again, I'm married, and that's the only reason I wouldn't do it, but if I wasn't married and some like, dude, where after a show was like, that was a great set, man, I'd like to suck a dick, and I'd be like, yeah, word.

Yeah, well, if I was sober, like I said, if I was sober, maybe harder to get it up, but drunk, I mean, I seem to always have a bono when I'm drunk, you know? Always. Respect. So I've, it's been alluded to a couple times, but I've got to know how the kid rock shows went, went are going. We got two more left. Well, here's the problem.

We got two more left. They're this weekend in Florida where a category three is about to hit. So maybe my last shows ever if the, the, the, fucking, the storm hits. But they, here's the thing. Here's what I'll tell you about. He's a really good dude. I've never been treated better on a tour. I mean, they fucking treat me, I mean, catered meals all the fucking time.

I call him Bob. I do, too. I mean, just, you call everybody, Bob. Yes. But he's just, he's super nice, and he's just, like, got a great crew of people around that he's been real loyalty for a long time. And I know he gets really, I'm just not a political, fucking. artist, unless we're talking Nazis, or racism or something. But it's been, when I hear these, I'm because I've fucked in the head, I hear, you know,

I hear fuck you bitch, and to me, that sounds like it should be played in a fucking amphitheater. So it's nice to finally be able to do that, you know. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I hear, I'm in an alternate universe, I was always like, these are a arena fucking songs. Can I see something that might be controversial? Not among our fans, but in general. Summers in Kentucky is way better than God knows why. And I feel like he can't file it.

You know, it's funny. That's a ballad. That's his favorite song of mine too. That makes sense to me. I would like to say this. I agree with you, but that's not to say that only God knows why I ain't a fucking banger. Because back in the day, buddy, I take too many pills. Man, let me tell you something back when I was a sophomore in high school and I did take too many pills,

and that song was just coming smooth out. no one has ever understood me more than Kid Rock. I said that because of how good Summers in Kentucky is, not at all to disparage. Only God knows what. This ain't about you. I'll whip your ass if you, okay. It's about our fans, Drew. I know how you stand me and you have talked about Only God knows why before.

He played a white piano and a white suit last time I saw him coming up on the floor. I'll tell you the fucker can put on a show. God damn. I've never heard anything about that. It was 2001. I was drunk. He was skinned open for him. I've never seen him live, but I've,

literally never heard anything other than that motherfucker can put on a shit. My brother, my brother-in-law Lloyd, who you sent the album and everything to his fire hall, which appreciate you, by the way. And it's their, it's their pride and joy.

They're not on Twitter. So, anyways, him and his daddy and one of my best friends, William, they all went to a kid rock concert. This is probably like six years ago. And they went,

and this is the weirdest thing anyone's ever said, complimenting someone. but it was hilarious to me. I go, how was the show? They go, afterwards, we all went to the Flying Jay and all bought matching Pearl Snaps. And I was like, what? There was like eight of them that went to the concert

and they were so jazzed about the show that afterwards they went to a truck stop and bought matching shirts. So, I mean, you know, Kid Rock kind of makes some dudes gay. Yeah, yeah. Where is Pearl Snaps matching at a gas station? Is that Nashville? Flying J.

That's why I said, Flying J on the way home. Those on the way home. Yeah, that's a gas station. Right. got matching pearl snaps at it. Well, I'm impressed, and I like it. I want to know where to go. That was, it's called the Rosaca exit.

It's if you're coming from Atlanta down to Chattanooga, you can hop over to go to Chickamauga through Rassaca through Lafayette. There's a flying J there on the Rassaca exit. I heard it here first. Yeah, and they will have matching purse. Sacka flying J. Fucking news.

But I, the other thing I was going to say. I feel like I'm a large, but a flying J medium. The, as I've noticed, too, you got to give respect to someone who started off and basically what would you call it? Almost like rap metal, like Limp Biscuit shit. And he's trying to stay relevant for fucking 20 years. I mean, we just talked about I'm having trouble in year three.

Like how do you fucking do this and reinvent yourself? And even that first out, dude, ball with the ball is still one of the greatest rock songs of all time. Yeah, there was one show we played where it was kind of rainy and the crowd wasn't into it. And he's like, he got off stage before the encore. He's just like, I'm fucking, I'm going home. didn't get to Ba'u'u'a and man people were they they weren't happy man when you come to Kid Rock you want to hear that fucking song for sure

and he also got some fucking badass fucking explosives that carny bit about Fingering Girls with Consent I referenced Ba'a with De Baal Yes it's funny because so what happens usually I go Actually what's cool about these shows one thing And I hate to sound like an old pussy but I am an old pussy Is I get done we get we go on early So I get done early

and I go to my fucking bus We got a bus now Thanks to the bigger doors And I go back I go to sleep And then I wake And I also I'm in the parking lot

You know because we don't leave Till the driver's got to sleep Get his hours of sleep And then I wake I just wake up Like ready to grab Because there's fucking World War fucking 10

Going on On the fucking He's setting off Like there's he's got more Power Technics Oh yeah Explosions and shit So I'm like

Like every fucking night I go to sleep at, you know, one, wake up at two, three, you know, whatever. I mean, I guess it's earlier than that. But sometimes I go to, you can't sleep. It's fucking, it's fucking World War III. Is it a fun? I mean, I'm having a blast. Yeah, what's the, like, response to, I'm sure, you know, there's some Wheeler fans at these shows. But also, I mean, these are massive shows.

I'm sure a lot of people there are not familiar with your shit. So, like, how's it, how's it been going over? I got to say, like the Wheeler fans, it's cool to see them there, but I've just so much more interested in the non-wheeler fans. Because I've been so, I've been, you can get in your own bubble, you know, where you play your own shows. And you guys probably have this too. Oh, yeah. That's nice to, like, get out in front of, like. Pedal to our metal.

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They don't take the close up. So is the best I said was rock. Don't maybe bring that. Yeah, I mean, it's like, you shouldn't bring a kid, like, it's, he's not PG-13. He goes for it. And he's, you know, there's, he's talks and saying fucking shit between, and there's plus plenty of songs, you know, it's just not where I should, but I'll see a little kid out in the audience and, you know, that throws me.

But for the most part, watching people who are new to it, watching them, like, hear, fuck you, bitch, and then by third chorus, they're singing along. Yeah. Or like, like, it's nice to see, to kind of win people over. It's also just the power of starting my guitar and hearing it so fucking far away. Yeah. It's nice on some, some nights, because the lawns are always more crazy. And the seats are the rich fuckers who, you know, bought the VIP shit, you know,

where you get like the fucking, you know, the kid rock jumpsuit with it and shit. Like, but like, it's cool to say, man, fuck the seats, man. I'm playing this one for the lawn and watch and hear the screaming from, you know, sounds like, it feels like a mile away, you know. To reach that amount of people. It's just, it can be, it's, because we play, like, I'll play my own headlining shows around those dates sometimes to help put gas in the bus. So it's just nice, because, you know, you got to remember when you, like, selling out a thousand tickets to your own headlining show is great. But you got to remember, it's, like, you sell a thousand tickets in Atlanta.

There's how many people on Atlanta? Four or five million? Four or five million. Like, you didn't fucking explode Atlanta. It's like, it's still very minute. It's nice to kind of humble yourself. I hadn't thought about it like that in a while, but thank you for that. That was nice.

Yeah. Well, no, but you, but you don't forget that my man, Corey here, asked me for tickets to Atlanta show. I gave him to him. Two seconds before we go on there, he's like, oh, I don't need them. I can't go. That's true. That's true. Was it just to show your friends you can get tickets?

Yeah. I sent that email. I framed that email and sent it to the fire hall and was like, oh, cool for your record. I was going to a show for free. Fuck you. Fuck fires. Fuck Smokey the bear. Fuck all that shit.

Well, last time we interview you, you called me and Corey the backup band. So we had to, you know. Oh, yeah. I still feel bad about that. You know what? I just lost a lot of respect for you. Well, you know, I mean, no, I do feel bad about it because I'd seen you out more because I didn't really.

That's the first time we met. I was like, I kind of was confused by the thing. I was like, I was like. I think that happens a lot. Yeah. Who's this fat idiot? I was like, I was like, who's the first. fucking band with two ringos, you know, I don't really

get it. I was like, I was like, I'd seen you on TV. It's like, we're the, like, we're, no, we're a trio. I was like, well, fucking, you know, I've seen like, you know, it's like, you know, at least Nirvana

had Dave Grohl, you know, something's like, I, the first time, it's like, I had never seen you fuckers before. Yeah, fuck you, Wheeler. Yeah. So, but I I get it now, but now I'm and I love it. Drew's got something he's wanting to pick your brain about. I do. The outlaw, baby.

Oh, yeah. That's something that came up. Okay. So. We got a fucking country. We have a lot of... We have a lot of... We've got a lot of friends who we've now started, you know,

hanging out more with and whatever, interacting more with. And this outlaw country thing seems to keep coming up. Like, we got one close friend who, it's in her bio. You know, outlaw country star at large or whatever. And she's legit. She's headed a whole legit. I'm sure that's just... I've got fucked up in a hotel with her.

She's outlawed country as far. I'm certain. Can I ask who it is? Yeah, it's Sarah Shook. Sarah Shook and the Disarmers. Oh, I heard she's great. I don't really know her. She's fantastic.

She's fantastic. Yeah, I got to listen. And then I've heard other people who I also respect. And I'm not saying it's directed at her. It's just like there's a lot of tweets or like, a lot of comments of like, if you call yourself out, like, I can't think of a lamer thing to do. And or if you do that, you know, you're clearly not that. And you're full of shit. shit and it's weird for me because

Al-W is the thought of Outlaw Country as a genre. It's just a genre. Willie, Wayland, and the boys invented Outlaw Country. Well, that's where, I guess that's where I take, not offense, but I take, I don't do it because I ain't Whalen, I ain't Willie, nor do I claim to be. And also, you know, I go back to the, you know,

Matt, remember, like, gangster rap. It was like, I think Chris Rockway had the joke, you know, gangsters don't rap. Right. First rule being a gangsters, keep your fucking mouth shut. Yeah, exactly. It's just like, we're not outlaw. It ain't outlaws, ain't gang.

I mean, listen, I fuck with country music, but that ain't fucking against the law. I'm not an outlaw, you know. Yeah, but those motherfuckers back in that day, like, used to fucking shoot at people and go to jail and shit. Did you see the, you see the, you see the show? Tales of the tour bus. It's fucking great. It's fucking great, huh? It rules.

And I'm saying. Well, and I'm not. Series of all times. Like, my favorite little, just one-off series. I try to me, I hope they do another one, but like. Can I tell you one of my... I've showed more people that than I've showed them my dick. Well, the highlights of my life was out...

We had a gig on the West Coast. We were out here playing a show. For some... Don't ask me why. And I'm not just out here for some meetings right now, but L.A. is one of our biggest markets. So we play here a decent amount. And I got a call because someone knew it was out here.

Billy Joe Shaver's recording this animated show. And he wants to... He's a big fan. He wants to say hi. Fuck, yeah. I say, you tell me when and where. So I stopped by the studio where they recorded this. And I met him and I shook-

Were they doing that episode of Tells from the Tour boss? Yeah, he was recording the audio for that, I guess. Looking back on now, and I shook his hand. Man, he's got that fucking... And I was like, there's fucking, I was like, there's some fucking fingers missing here. Yeah. And then I watched the episodes.

Like, now I know why. Well, yes. Like, you're right, Trey. And that story highlights it. They were real outlaws. But Billy Joe Shaver's an outlawed. For me to say that, like... But I wasn't trying to even bring up the truth of veracity.

It wasn't like I was saying, like, people say their outlaws in their line. I know that's true. I'm saying that aren't we in a world where, look, if I hear someone is claiming or someone else says, this is outlaw country, if I respect that person's opinion, I'm going to be interested in it. I'm like, okay, what does that mean? I'll fucking dig it. Because I don't think I've ever heard Sturgle call himself that, but one of the first times I read about him, the writer called him that. Yeah, I think it's kind of a lazy term.

I mean, for a writer, I mean, like, there's a, I play, I've been playing a lot of my shows. And my end of the year shows, I'm playing with this, with this girl, Jamie Wyatt, open up. I don't know if you, listen to it if you haven't. I have listened to Jimmy Wyatt. She's, I think, um, shooter, maybe she's on Shooter's label, there's some kind of connection. She's fucking killer, and she's like, you know, her last dime, I think it's called felony blues. and because she was she was in prison like if you're in getting if you if you write your country songs in jail sure

call yourself fucking outlaw but you know I don't I just don't consider it a genre of music I guess I consider it nowadays to be my big issue is there's country and there's this bullshit on the radio you know that's my sure you know right I agree completely with all that we were talking about this earlier today and I was telling Drew like I think a lot of what's happened is like a lot of these guys

that are like super, super popular mainstream country artists like Jason Aldeen and Eric Church and a bunch of other ones have like used that moniker of Outlaw country when like in my opinion they're anything but you know.

Yeah and you go to their shows and they have they sell merch that has Outlaw country branded on it all over and like I feel like that's been going on for long enough now that like it's tainted the like the very designation of that or whatever you know for like modern day artist sure i mean i mean the other thing too i want to say is the country music hall of fame right now which actually

not i mean minus the little big town exhibit um it's not a bad it's a cool place to go um i mean i actually met those people they're super nice people but um but like but they've got an outlaw they've got an outlaw exhibit now that Cobb and shooter help put together that's uh that's you know that kind of tells the story of the outlaws and what they once you see that

it kind of it brings it all together but I don't feel like Willie got called an outlaw because he was shooting people I mean first of all Willie never shot anyone he was outside of the mainstream of national well what happened here's the story I got from the read seeing the story yet

at the country this man knows the country music hall of fame so what happened was these fucking guys were trying to do it the Nashville way and they go and then Willie started he moved out to Texas he goes fucking I'm going back home playing the armadillo club right and I'm doing and I'm a I'm a fucking hippie I'm playing hippie music it's it's fucking country but I'm doing fuck these big stories because you got remember the pop country back then was orchestrated orchestras you know you know symphony because there was no electronic shit so it's just like I want to just play guitar, drums, back to its roots, old school Hank country.

And he moved back to Texas, then Whalen followed him back, Billy Joe Shaver, all those guys. What they were doing was they were getting out of Nashville, and they just started a movement. Basically, Austin, and, you know, kind of around there, it's just like, fuck it, you know what? Nashville doesn't have to beat, music room doesn't have to be the place. We'll sell fucking records from here. And they put out that, what they put, they put out this album called Wanted, the Album, the Outlaws. You know that album? Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. And it's like a compilation, right? It's got Waylon, Willie, Jesse Coulter, and I forget who else, but, and that was the first, and so they're basically saying, we don't need fucking Nashville. Yeah, probably. And, you know, and

Doug Sam was a big part of that too. And then they moved out of Nashville, and that wanted album was the first ever platinum country record. So they said, fuck Nashville, we're doing on our own and they doing on their own they were out selling the fucking you know glossy pop shit so that's what i that's what they mean by outlaw and that i get and i get that and i'm saying

that i do feel like there is you know like a lineage there like with certain people that i like not not that they i'm not saying they owe anything to them i'm not saying that it's the same type of music or the same genre i'm just saying that i can look at mainstream bullshit And then I can look at people selling records outside of that. And it might be lazy, but I don't mind the writer calling a spade a spade. It's fucking outlaw. And the way we've learned to use that word in country specifically. I totally get that.

I just say I understand why, I mean, I would never call myself outlaw country. Right. It's just something I just feels uncomfortable, you know. Sure. Just because, you know. Well, because it seems to, like, bring up like your brick on the law or you're living in a lifestyle. But also, like, Wayland and Willie, those guys had more. on the line, you know, and they broke more barriers down.

I mean, I, I didn't break any fucking barriers. I help people who want to save... You know, country music writer talking about sucking dick. You break the least one. But if you want to make a dirty country record, maybe I helped you there, but I don't see anybody else doing it. But, you know, I just don't think of myself as someone who's, like, broken any... Like Willie Whalen, Billy Joe, those guys broke ground.

Sure, I agree with that. In a timing, my... One of my favorite records... is Willans Honky Tonk Heroes. Yeah. And Billy Joe wrote. Billy Joe wrote every song. But just, to me, it's more of the sound, which is, that album could have been recorded yesterday.

It's just drums, guitar, bass. I mean, there's some of that stuff is just three instruments. It's just so, it's just so stripped back. And that's where I originally, you know, that's where Dave Cobb and I, who produced all that, a lot of the shit you guys listened to, where we kind of connected was just kind of, stripping it back and just like that was revolutionary at the time to like not over they didn't have auto tune but they had ver you know all the shit they knew now with computers was just all it's just faster ways to do all the shit they used to do like you know like the beetles would spend hours slicing up like pro tools and

shit it's i don't consider it really lazy i mean it's just all it's doing is speeding up all they did the same thing in the old days bad take they'd take a splicer out and you got to cut the tape nowadays it's just computers. There's a guy, and I don't know if we talked about him on the well-read podcast before. He's definitely a friend of mine. He let me open up for him several times back when I was starting out in comedy. Roger Allen Wade, who... Oh, yeah, he's fucking great.

He's from around my area. Him and my dad used to pick together back in the day, and saw it. By virtue of that, I got to open for Roger. And it was around the time Roger was attempting to make a little comeback. Because, you know, Roger wrote Country State of Mine. he wrote so many of these great country songs back in the day. And, like, he, Chris Christofferson said, famously, someone asked him who's the greatest country songwriter of all time.

And he said, aside from myself, Roger Allen Wade, which is a great quote. Yeah. So Roger recorded this. You know Christofferson personally paid for Billy Joe Schaever's first record? I believe it. He was just, he produced. He's like, I want to make, he took a loan out from the back. Yeah, I got to get this guys out.

Yeah, I got to get this. album out. I was like, I'll put my house. When Roger was making, like, he'd already done jackass, he did, you know, he's John Oxal's cousin. So he did Jackass. Well, yeah, they got that show, right? Yeah, so they've got the family, badass family on, on Sirius,

which I've just botched the name, I'm sure, but check it out. Check anything Roger does out, because he's the best. But when he was making his little comeback record, he was called Deguel Motel, which is one of my favorite country records of all time, and what he did was strip it back even further. And like, I almost want to think they just were

recorded it in like a fucking kitchen or some shit like that and you can it comes across as that but it's a very lyric driven album and it's just three chords in the truth how country should be what it used to be yeah i mean that that was the big thrill not to get back to myself but i guess i'm here but but talk about the new record was my first time i recorded studio at rca studio a which you know the stapleton album is a from a room so i recorded it there and it really it was Because I'd done my last two records and my buddies in his basement. This is the first time I'd ever been in a... I mean, this...

I'm standing where Elvis stood. And the... Dolly recorded Jolene there. I'm just like... You know, and that shit does affect you. I mean... Listen, I'm not... Don't get me wrong.

I'm singing, I sucked another dick last night. But it's... But it's still just like, where the fuck did I go right that I'm even singing this... Right. In this... In this... Go wrong, either way.

Go wrong. It's probably... closer to it but it's just like to record it's just like you know you've a good studio you feel it in the walls and like in the air just like and it's they it's not refurbished it's just the same this is the fucking you know the couch there's the wall this is the room where elvis recorded this is the you know the board the everything yeah and it's still there you know comedy club i mean that's yeah that's how a comedy yeah i did joie daz's podcast last night because i was like do this yeah i went to church last night but we were talking

about that. He was saying the same thing. It's just like, you can't help but be affected by these rooms, because he was asking me, and I'm not a religious man, but like I do believe that these places have some kind of soul to a, same thing with a, to a guitar, or, like, there's a reason why 8 million great albums

have been recorded at Studio A. Right. Don't give me wrong, there's plenty of shitty ones, too. Yeah, I went to, I was just, before we went, we had some gigs. I can't remember what it was, me and my dad were traveling, we went to Muscle Shulls, and we went to both studios. And like you go in there and they're like, to the unkeen eye,

there's not much there. But like as an artist myself, I'm looking around, I'm like, okay. Yeah, yeah, I've heard it.

Yeah, it's not the greatest technical studio. It doesn't, no, but it's just like being in that room. But like, none of these good comedy clubs that we love, every single comedy club that we adore

is not shiny. It's not, there's not a lot. It's just, there's just the intimacy to the, room and you get up there and you know what's been done there and you're like yeah let me fucking well that's what joy was saying last night about the comedy

story he's like I'm standing where Richard prior fucking stood and it can't help it affect your performance you know right it's impossible for it not to I mean I actually just I was just at the rhyming you know I don't I still can't play there because of what I do

yeah but I was I gave an award to Tyler that's what I was just about to ask about yeah because that's sort of related to I mean, he, that speech he gets, anyway, go ahead. Yeah, well, it's funny, it's, because I did the intro, so I missed the speech. I don't even remember, didn't hear this. Tyler Childers, everybody, by the way.

And the speech was just about, and you were saying, I think you were saying, and you go ahead and correct me if I'm saying it wrong, but you were like, outlaw, whatever, I don't call myself that, I'm country. I think what he said, whatever those people are doing, I'm country. He's like, yeah. That's what I'm saying. Instead of talking about outlaw, he was doing the same thing with Americana. He was saying, you can call me whatever you want. I'm a country music singer. I don't know what the fuck.

I go, but Americana aside, like, it's like, what I'm getting at is you guys sing country. Yeah, well, that's the thing, too, it's just the world's kind of moved on. They want these kind of hip-hop beats and this phrasing and stuff. And there's people like us who just like the fucking old kind of country shit. And that's what we like. And there's no rule if we're into, we pay for our own records. We can do it up the fuck we want. and there's

I think a lot of these guys going back to the first two Strudgel records obviously the Tyler record which is great those guys just like occasionally they'll do it and if you do it great

you find out there's a fucking audience who wants to hear that shit yeah I feel like I get asked fairly regularly living out here I'll be talking to people whatever and somehow country music get brought up

because I'm a big country music fan and like Americana comes up a lot and like my people ask like America like what what is that exactly? Well, that's what I got... I got in trouble,

because I said, fuck on NPR, because it was live on NPR, nobody told me. I said, I don't know what the fuck. Because I said, I don't know what the fuck

Americana is. As far as I can tell from tonight, Americana is just country music that nobody listens to. What I, what my answer, my go-to answer to that question when I get is always,

as far as I can tell, it's just country music that's good. Yeah, well, like, like country music that is good is now called Americana, and country music that is bad, well, that's country music,

but I still find it bullshit. It's like, I remember when I was a teenager, I was just like, no, no, this ain't, Nirvana ain't all, why is Hootie rock and roll and Nirvana's alternative rock? No, hooty should be the fucking alternative. Right, sure.

It doesn't make no fucking sense. Well, that's what I got in a child of speech is, I'm country. Let's call that bullshit Americana. For sure. But a lot of people who love the Americana, a music association for giving Isbil, Sturzel,

whatever, a place, Margo, before she blew up, they were like, why can't you just be happy that you have this place? And I was like, eh, I think you guys have been so much of them. Yeah, I think just too, he's, he's a kid, he's a kid, he's a kid, he's a kid, he's a kid, just a younger guy, I think he's just trying to stay humble, and he's just a good, he's a great kid, and, you know, like,

and he doesn't, he don't give a fuck. I mean, he had me, we played a festival together, and I don't know if you saw that, me, Sturgel and him went on stage and during his set, and sang sit on my face. I mean, I almost, I mean, I was this close. People can't see me because I'm on a podcast, but I was this close to saying, man, your career is fucking blowing up. I don't know if you should have me on stage with you singing, you know,

these lyrics to send up, you know, sit on my, and ride my mouth of your pussy. He's got a new song about Jacking Off on the Road. He played it at Bonner. Yeah, he sent me that song a while. I haven't heard, and I haven't listened to it, but I just, it's just like, I was, I was about to say, you know, don't do it. And I was just like, I don't give a fuck. Nah, fuck it, man.

I think, I really think a lot of the people that are in, like, that wheelhouse of, like, really fuck with him are the ones that, like, really get Whaler and what Whale is about, I think. Well, that he gives a fuck, and that's why he is Tyler Childers to me. That motherfucker don't give a goddamn fuck. We recorded our album in Lexington. That was about the read. I got it pulled up. Go ahead. You reread this. We've read this on the podcast before, but I think you would enjoy hearing this.

We're recording our album in Lexington, and he lives near there. Yeah, well, that's where I first knew of him is he used to play my brother's. One of my brother's buddies was like, and this always happens, this has happened to me two times now. Now that Kentucky's getting back in the music, country music game big time with Stapleton, Sturgle, Tyler, and Wheeler Walker, Jr. you're, my brother was like, there's this guy who's like, he plays our barbecues every Sunday. And you got to hear, man. I'm telling you, man, this guy's good. I'm just like, shut the fuck.

Yeah, any more, you know, breaking music news from your buddy's barbecue? It was, and it. Well, to be fair to your brother, isn't he in a band? No, no, no, it's a different brother. A different brother. Okay. So, so. And, and, so, so, so, and I'm like,

Yeah, thanks for the heads up on the guy playing the barbecue. It turns out it was Tyler, he just loves music, and he would go to every sonny of this dude's house and play the barbecue. It would be like my cousin being like, you should hear this comedian, and then it's like the next Dave Chappelle or whatever. Yeah, but he also called me, because he knows Sturge, he grew up with Sturgle's wife, he's like,

and he's like, man, I won't say her name just in case. I don't know if he's mentioned, or whatever, his wife's name, he goes, it ain't Sarah? He's got a song called Dear Sarah. Oh, Sarah. Okay, well, whatever it is, but I don't know. I don't like giving people's private shit up.

He's like, her husband, man, you got to hear him. I was like, dude, I don't need to hear your friend's husband's bands. You have one dude in your life who tried to get you to listen to Sturgle and Tyler before they came out. Yeah, but next time this motherfucker brings somebody up, you or... That's probably true in fairness to my brother. I should, but he's got shitty musical tape. But he got two right. So then I was like, and then Sturge...

We've all got two right. And then I was like... Yeah, exactly. A broken clock, what's the thing? It's right twice a day, literally. So yeah, so I was like, I was listening... I was listening to that second Sturgel record. And I called my brother.

I was like, because we like the same kind of music. You got to listen. He's like, dude, that's fucking Stu, man. You know him. from back in... I was like, that's the fucking dude. And that's the same thing with the Tyler record. Well, actually, what happened with the Tyler record, I had heard that

Sturgle was producing his record. And actually, that's the story I told when I introduced him. I said, I texted Sturgey. I was like, what's to deal with this Tyler Childers record you're producing? He's like, and the only thing he texted back, he goes, he's a good kid. And I was like, when I heard the record, well, he's

better than good. He's really, you know, just like, I think what he meant was just like, he's, you know... He is a good. kid but he's just like you know he's a good he's a good just say how the weight way kind of we

elder you know 40ish dudes look at like young 20 something year old players you're great kids I mean you ain't Tyler Childers but you're we're also not telling me something so so this is his response we invited him the weekend of the Americana Awards to our show

because we know he's around or whatever and say you know I met you in Knoxville. We're big fans. I think you're aware of us. Blah, blah, blah, blah. Hey, man, dudes, that'd be killer. But I'm having a pre-American Award's goat slaughter

slash goat curry potluck at my cabin if y'all want to come hang out. Corey says, of course, it's been a while since I've been to a goat slaughter. We go back and forth on that. He goes, well, it'll be an all day pitil. I don't know what I'm going to be doing. I'll be in and out of the house all week. Call me if you want to do it or whatever.

So that day for me, or the weekend, I guess it was two days apart, was him saying, I can't come to your show because I'm having a goat slaughter. And then the next time I see or hear about him, he's on stage, and I don't know if you remember,

you said you didn't see it. Like some of the coaches, you have a stark raving hill jack loose in your house, and I've got blood all over my, that's the metaphor he used to say, I'm a country singer. I had to do the red carpet

because they made me go down it, and I saw Tyler backstage. It's like, man, that red carpet's a bitch, huh? He's like, man, no, it's like, they wouldn't let me go down. I go, why? Because I'm covered in fuck. He was covered in fuck. I'm telling you, he had a white, like Colonel Sanders suit on.

He's fucking covered in blood. Goat's blood. Yeah. But he told me ghost blood. I was like, yeah, sure. I thought maybe he'd, like, cut himself or something. I mean, now I guess it's, I'm not that I didn't believe him, but it's like. He's a fucking outlaw, dude.

See, no, that. That I'll give you. His motherfuckers covered in goat blood. His first award show, and there's a picture of the two of us together. my Instagram somewhere. It's like, I've got my arm around him. He's got a white suit. He's fucking covered in goat's blood.

I'm like, yeah, I got to say that. He's probably pretty fucking out. I don't want, you know. And he's referencing it. He says, I got a stark raving, you've let a stark raving hill jack covered in goat blood inside your house. Yeah, I mean, it certainly is.

I mean, it was, I certainly was shock. I was just like, I just thought, I mean, what it looked like to me was he'd gotten in a fight on the way in. or something. I like how you wrote that off. You're like, yeah, whatever, you got in a fight. That says a lot about you, actually, that you don't want,

that people think you ain't outlaw. You've just seen a motherfucker covered in blood, and you were just like, well, it is Saturday. Yeah, right. We're at an award show. Some shit probably popped off before that. Yeah, it's not the source awards, you know. Right.

It would be funny. Hey, can I tell you guys, can pitch you guys an idea I had that my managers turned down? You know how, like, these diss tracks are the new thing? Uh-huh. Hopefully, when will this be released? Next week. Next, a week from tomorrow.

Late Tuesday night. Here's what I want to do. And I don't mind mention it on the podcast. So what I want to do is because all these, the new rage is these fucking discracks, right? Didn't was, who Eminem had one, right? M.G. I don't even know that guy, but was. Exactly.

But now. That's how hard Eminem went. But now I do. But so I want to do a fucking Yodel Kid district. Just because no one would fucking, you know, like, what kind of idiot would just fucking, Wheeler, and by the way, you inspired us. We've been sharing clips of this kid, Corey and I back and forth, being like, when does he die? Like, somebody needs to get a control of this kid.

He's out of control. I've heard that someone says. His Ma'all's out of control. His Ma'amol is out of control. I was going to say. We'll be on drugs soon. Well, that's why I said it on a podcast that got in trouble. I said, this guy's going to be sucking dicks for cracking about three weeks.

week you're completely right you were wrong by a year but you're completely right otherwise yeah but i but i said um but my thing too is i i i i think it is a sad story and it's gonna be a sad story but like i see him at fucking frat houses and like jesus like on on videos of it he's been going like i think his i called it didn't i think his parents i think his parents that meanwhile you mean like his grandma yeah yeah um but i think i think his parents are around his grandparents are just fucking using them for cash. And I offered them a big... I don't think they know any better.

I want to say that. I think that they don't know what Twitter is, or fame even. Well, I think they're just using them. I feel bad for it. Because a buddy of mine, because he got a publishing deal, which is idiotic, because he doesn't write... I don't know if you guys know, but his first single, that horrible song was, like, famous, you hear that?

No. That's written produced by Florida Georgia Line. Oh, good. They got to hold of them first. Oh, man. I wish they'd die. Yeah. So, um, this them on a track.

Well, yeah, that's what I thought about, but I, but I, but I thought, but my, my question is, what, would it be too hard? Listen, I got nothing personally. He's a kid. I get it. But wouldn't it be funny to fucking do it, like, really go hard on a little fucking kid. Yeah, talk about how shit. Or would it be too, would it be too hard? I mean, like, you know, like the district. Listen, you fucking little bitch. You small, got a small big. Can you include his grandparents and Florida, Georgia line a little bit as his producer? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that'd be fine. I mean, I agree. Listen, first of all, I know it's not fine. That's not the question. Would it be, and I know it's too far, but would it be fuck, would you guys listen? Would it be funny? Are you fucking kidding me?

Here's the other thing. Because of what you're talking about his grandparents doing, putting him out there, this is where it's at now. Yeah, I'm just saying, I'm like, I would be, my real anger would, if I were to sit and think about it would be at the grandparents, not him. Yeah, this is Billy Gilman 2.0. except for like kind of worse. Like Billy Gilman could fucking sing. This kid did some yodel shit, but I heard his like actual songs.

Garbage. You know, shit, yeah. First of all, he spins in his boots and points. If he was that good, he wouldn't be singing at the fucking Walmart for free. Is that the opening line?

That's the opening line. Or the closer. You know where he spins on his boots and points? He just does it over and over again. That's the first one I sent the core, and I said, this kid will be dead in a year. Yeah.

He just, now he's become, robot. Well, the song is all about like a love song. I'm like the dude, no way he's got a hair. So here's my question. A hair on, one hair on his balls. And he's singing like love. Like love your baby. Here's my question. No, I'm just saying.

He's like, he hears your disc track if you do put it out. I think it's possible. It helps him. It gives him some fucking fortitude. That's the end I was looking for. I'm trying to help him. Yeah. A disc track. A distract cry for help. Yeah.

Well, I got to ask you this, though, when you do put it at this, can we have a hand in producing because I've been Real Red podcast listeners know I've been getting pretty decent at beats and stuff like that So me and you want to collaborate I don't know shit about beats

I got I don't know shit about rapping Me and my buddy and friend of the podcast DJ Lewis aka Skinny Bumpkin We got the beats So if you want to put out of Skinny Bumpkin It's hard to say no to Skinny Bumpkin Yeah I'm saying so if you want

You have no idea No buddy yeah you can't say no to him You many times I've done meth Saying that sentence right there So if you want to be serious about this, you boy, you know, you got a place in Nashville, we got a place out here, we got a couple places. We'll get it done.

I'm in. To follow up on that, when you say this track, we assume rap. We're not trying to produce a fucking country record. No, no, I'm saying, like, I want to do it Eminem's style. Okay, yeah, yeah, no, we're, yeah. Yeah, so I'm... But it can be country and slim shattie style, which is caramel M&Ms, I believe.

Yeah, I mean, like, I mean, I hate to use the example. I guess it would have to be. be like that Jason Aldeen like shit right yeah no we'll go through it well dude it's on the nose but we'll go through with it I can you know yeah but I want to Dave corn on the cob over here yeah but like I like

um the idea of this and just doing a disc track about some poor kid kid who I never even fucking met you know yeah and who why would you want to like let's not made a kid yeah I think it's probably would probably not be a good idea I did have my manager made my manager call his people

because I wanted to do an ad for my new album I want him, I was going to pay him to do an ad for my new record. He said no. His grandma said no. Well, I said, I just said, name a number and I'll pay you. Because then I was, because he just spit out his fucking dream. And I go, so what I was going to do is I was going to raise the money and go fund me. So I thought maybe they'd say a million dollars or something.

And I was going to try to raise it. You know, just like, name the craziest number. I thought they were going to say no by naming a crazy number. Right. And then I was going to try to raise the money. but instead they were just like, no way, there's no number, there's no number, it can happen. So I got a, and I go, then I got, then I got real pissed at him for no reason.

Yeah, fuck that. He's earned a disc track, frankly, at this point. Now that we know the backstory. Well, we're being 12 and having nothing to do with any of these decisions. He's got this country star, and so you got a publishing deal, and I got a lot of country songwriters, friends in Nashville, and they were at his publishing company, right to their songwriting. writing some songs, and they walk in the lobby,

and he's on the fucking couch, just taking a nap. Like, what a lady piece of shit. It's a fucking nap time, you know? I'm like, like, like, he's just like, like, where's his hand, where's people? They're just like, you know, it's three o'clock. He's probably taking their

dialysis. He gets some juice boxes. He's like, he had his snack. It's time for a fucking nap. I'm with you. I mean, I, you know, I was defending you. I was telling you you're going to help the kid, but like, we are piling on a little. It sounds like, you know, He doesn't know what's up. You know what he reminds me of

is the fucking judge, the younger one. I know, but it's like, it's a little bit like the younger judge. I have some friends who were brought, some friends who were like, you know,

you got to meet this kid, maybe work with him. And they said it was a real sad scene. Like, they were just using him for fucking cash. I'm sure, man. Yeah,

it's the judge. No, if we're going to be like real about it, yeah, it's fucked up and shitty. Yeah, but no, let's go back to like fuck this kid,

though, yeah, but yeah, maybe it's to keep the sadness away just to fuck. Well, you might reach him. He ain't. He's going to hit puberty soon, and he's going to be looking for ways to rebel.

Maybe he wants to fucking, you know, do a duet with his new buddy Wheeler, and he tells his grandma to go fuck herself because Wheeler's cool. Yeah, well, I don't want to do a discrack and lose out on a fucking hit duet. So. You guys should be the new judge. That should be the next fucking face. Well, you know, Tanya, that's what Tanya Tucker got, her fucked up. She was a huge star in her teens.

At 14, right? Yeah, and she was, I feel like she... Delta Don, 14, man. 14 years old. Yeah. Yeah, and she was great, man, but she, uh, you can't get, you can't get big that early. You just don't know what it is, you know. Drew Barrymore's like the one that somehow...

Well, but she did, but she wasn't on my case saying Drew Barrymore, she wasn't normal, dude. No, no, no, I'm not saying she was normal. I'm saying she's come out of it fine. Ryan Gosling is the counter example. He was, he was a Disney kid and he was pretty big. and he's pretty normal. Justin Timberlake seems like he's doing okay. But yeah,

but the percentages say this dude's sucking dick for crack. Yeah. So we're about to have to turn Mr. Walker loose in a minute. Yeah, but I have two quick things I want to run by him if y'all don't have, y'all got anything else you want to go? You guys good?

I'm out of. What about, is there anything that we need to put out there that we haven't said already in terms of plug-in or anything? November 30th, WW3, and then we got a bunch of shows around that hopefully you guys can come to one of these we're doing four west coast shows it's on my website i forget i think l.a so you're in l.a for a little bit we're all moving out of you guys are you guys on buddy if i'm not on the road when you're here i'm 100% my fucking go i got them frequent

fire miles so just wherever you're at okay cool so you're at every show so we're doing lae the novo downtown l.a i want to say november 28th or 29, something like that. And then San Diego and Santa Ana right around that. And then we go back Nashville on November 6th, Chicago the 7th, Milwaukee the 8th, and that's my year. And then I'm done. I'm taking a break.

I got to get off the road, man. Yeah. No, I take that back. All those dates I said were not. Nashville, December 6th, Chicago, December 7th, Milwaukee, December 8th, and then I'm calling it. I'm calling it 2008. We're in fucking D.C. when you're in L.A.

I knew that shit was going to happen. Which will be sweet, by the way. Plug that. Yeah, we are pumped about being in D.C. at the D.C. Improv. I just played D.C. Where'd you play? It was a new club. It was cool. It was, like, kind of on the water.

I can't remember what it was. I don't remember the name of clubs. Cool. But it was, it was a good, it was a good. It looks like you got most of your dates, right, but I think you skipped Phoenix, December 1st, so I want to plug that. Yeah, Phoenix, December 1st will be fun.

And also, I'm doing, you know, I got my Wheeler podcast now. I'm doing the All Things Comedy Podcast Fest. It's Bill Burr's, I do my podcast for Bill Burr's company. Okay. So I'm going to go do my podcast live. No, we didn't know. We've never been asked to be on.

We didn't know. Well, if you had a podcast. I'll be, I'll be, I'll, can I put this, can I use this as my podcast? Sure. You're, you're, you're, you're, Your guests on my podcast, I just said, I get too late. I don't have guests.

We're just going to send you this file and you just put it out on yours and it'll be fine. What I do is I just, I take, we have a hotline and I answer fan questions. That's all I go in the pocket. Oh, hell yeah. So, um, uh, and there's some crazy fucking questions, you know, like how to get your, I'm literally a dude last week asked me out how to get his dick out of his dad's asshole. And what was the answer? Um, I said, fucking pull it out, man.

Yeah. And if you, I mean, I assume in the. the two weeks between the call and the answer he figured it out anyway. Sure. But, but, um, so yeah,

I'm doing a live podcast, which is just a little out of my comfort zone, but we'll see how it goes. Okay. And I don't know. You're not, you guys aren't, I wish I knew the date.

I wish you guys were in Phoenix. Do you guys play Phoenix? December first. We just play Tuesdays. No, no, no. This is, this is end of October.

Yeah, we were just in Arizona. like last week. We did Tucson like last weekend. We'll fly the fuck out, though. Yeah, come on out. These end of the year show, the West Coast shows will be,

are you gone, you're in D.C. that whole week? Yeah, and when you're in, when you're in San Diego and all that shit, like that weekend, we're in D.C. The whole time of them. And the 27th, we're in North Carolina on a big run.

That's how it goes. Don't mean. It's hard if it sucks. It's hard. Like Joey last time. was like we're in west palm beach same night love to see him but we're both playing shows as fucking possible even when you're in the same city i would i would like to say this too i was going to see you in what atlanta you're going to be in Atlanta this week uh well which this i'm going to go out

then but in uh terminal west which where we've played and i was super stoked to see you you know did the whole swallow my pride sent the email i was happy to get you in by the way just so you know i know you were and then we had some things happening i had to come out to l-a and some big things. But good things. Good things I'm going to announce right now, but it was such a good thing that I called my wife and was like, baby,

the thing that I wanted happened. And by virtue of that, I have to be in L.A. next week. And her literal first thing that she said was, so does that mean we can't see the Wheeler Walker show? And I was like, fuck, yes,

God damn it. And she was so bummed. She took off a day of work the next day. She was going to get fucked up. She loves all your shit. That's a great fucking story. You called her with, I assume, it's the best news.

One of the best news of your life. She's like, fuck, that ruins the Wheel of Walker Jr. show. It makes my fucking night. That's what's up. And I'm not doing a bit. So that's literally what she did. There was just, there was two. She can still go.

Yeah, she could. She could still go. Yeah. I'm a gentleman. There's, there's been two things that I just wanted to run by you. because we're having you all because these are Wheeler Walker questions and so this could be quick so we're going to wrap up but the first is all right look at Corey you see Corey here so one thing we've identified about Corey he has one of my favorite character traits that I've ever noticed in a friend of mine which is that in almost any group of people if you smell a fart god damn it it was Corey that did it I mean like just him and everything. It's not a personality trait.

He just got bad gas. No, no, no, no. I don't mean it actually was him. It normally isn't me. I'm saying there's a group of people in an elevator or whatever, and this group can be as diverse as you want to make it,

and somebody smells a fart. If you look around and Corey's in that elevator, 90% of people are going to go, it was him that farted. Are you saying that's just his look? Yes. He looks like he just farted. You ask me, that's the question.

No. Well, we can. Yeah. First question. No, I have a, I just want, I want you to give him some advice on, because I feel like there's a couple different ways to approach this. I feel like because that's true and we all just know that it's true and Corey knows it's true, he should just be farting always at maximum level because what's the difference, right? But if the question is, you look like a guy who just farted, I got to go with yes. And I hate to say everybody.

Absolutely. But you look like a guy just, yeah, if somebody fart in the elevator and you're there, I mean, we know it's you. Right. Yeah. But why do you think that it's like what exactly is it? It's just, it's just, you look like the dude with the I farted t-shirt. Yeah, it is that dude. So my question for you, like trying to, like, you give like, you know, advice to Corey is given that that is true.

Stop farting. The universe acknowledges that it's true. But I don't fart that much. Everybody knows that it's true. How should he approach that going forward? I feel like he should just embrace it and just fart everywhere he goes because like he's that or you know just nice clean shave button downs tuck in your shirt but I don't think you want to go that way it dude I'll look worse in a button day but but I'll look more farty if I if I'm between that and fucking fart in your ass if I personally would take the fart yeah I mean I'll be honest with you now that we're saying it like this because we never have like now that it's out in the open it's like

like, yeah, who do I have to impress? I should just fart all the time. But I guess my question would be, do you feel like you're, are you holding in farts? All the time. On plane, like, I'm on planes a lot. Like, mostly what I am is on planes I feel like. I would say, here's my advice. And I constantly hold me.

And I spend my life giving advice. I would just, for the next week, don't hold a fart. Right. Just let them all go for a week and see everything. Right. Just see how liberating it is? No, but no, not that. I want you to see if the reaction

to you change at all. Because if so, stop holding and farts. Yeah, I got to be honest with you. I already know the answer to that. The reactions to me will not be any different.

So I may as well fart. If he's that guy ready, and we all know it is, he may as well far. I know, but then... He should just be farted. Okay, okay, right. I fucking hate holding him from.

Okay, right. But if I may, this goes back to the old fucking Richard Pryor when Richard Pryor said, if you're going to call me the N-word, then the N-word's going to show up. Shit, that's me with my farts. Right.

but what I'm saying is like then I have become the exact reason that they believe that I should fart. It's a catch-22 double-edged sword thing. It's like, yeah, then I am just farting. It's the old fart.

It's the old fart-filling prophecy. Right. It's the old fart 22. It is the old fart 22. Like if I just start farting, they'll be like, we knew this is... I would say... It's like a gun, Corey.

But I would say as an experiment, just a liberating experiment, just don't hold your form. Just do a wheat. try for a week and sell you feel. That's amazing, and I may. I've got a lot of flights coming up. Because that's where it is.

And also we're down the street from fucking Pekito Moss right now. Yeah, I mean, dude, I stay, buddy. Well, I'm lactose and tolerance. So, like, I stay in a bind of having to fart. And, like, one of my favorite things to get on a Delta flight is the cheese plate and I'll eat it. And then I'm on a four-hour flight. And...

You're already more relaxed. You're admitting that you fart all the time. This is, like, my coming out party. Yeah, this feels good. Like, I'm Corey. I fart. Hi, Corey. But, no, I'm not about it.

Like, I'm not the guy that farts in public. I hold them for later, but then I smell farts on planes, and I look around and everybody's just staring at me. Like, you did this. Well, that's when I fart. If I smell another... If you smell a fart, go ahead and fart. Yeah.

I would definitely not. I would just not hold it for a week and see if you've just been feeling bad. Well, now, I'll go ahead and say on record, I've done that. Like, if I'm on a plane and I'm on a plane and I'm, smell a huge fart and I have a fart in my butt. Well, just do a favor for Wheeler Walker Jr. Just, what's the date? What's the day of day Tuesday?

Today's Tuesday. Don't hold a fart until a week from today. Okay. This is a movement. This is our sober October. Yeah. This is in that month of October we're just letting our farts out. You can add a little like addendum to the end of this podcast because this will come out

eight days from today. So right before you post it, you can add a 30 second. I stuck to that. And for the past seven days, I have not hate a fart. And this is what is happening. You can get the results of the pilot study. Can I tell you something?

I want to see if it lowers your anxiety. Can I tell you something right now about this? I'm so high on Cheetos right now. I need to fart. Fart! I'm about to start right now, baby. Yeah, man. It was silent, but I did it.

I farted. Let's have one to, you know, to start the party. Can we all fart? Is everybody got a fart? I knew you were the man to ask about that. I wish I could fire on command. I can. And there's a...

I got a buddy that can. He lays on his back. He sucks wind and he sucks air through his asshole. And then, which is not, in my opinion, a fart, more of a butt burr. Yeah, that's like the guy on Cernan does that. I don't consider it a fart.

It's not a fart. It's like a party trip. Because that's not methane coming out. That's just air you sucked in pushing out. I don't respect it. But it's still too much. He knows his asshole too well. It's kind of weird.

All right. I wanted to make sure and ask Wheeler, Walker, Jr., that question. question and also this one. This has been a burning topic for a couple weeks running now on this podcast. Oh, yes. I need to hear this too. And me and Corey have found ourselves divided from the masses on this. We apparently are just outliers. This is like when you were talking earlier, like, I didn't think this was political or I didn't think that this was even a big deal. I brought this up a couple weeks ago on a podcast and I sincerely didn't think it was even going

to be a question. I was more interested in the details after the question, but I've divided a lot of people with this. So here we go. So here's what I ask you. All right. Hit me. You go back to your place tonight you're staying at, right? And you, Wheeler Walker Jr., from the future, shows up. But when I say from the future, I don't mean 2034.

I mean next Wednesday. Next Wednesday, Wheeler Walker Jr. has gotten access to a time machine and has come back to see his past self you in your place, right? So he shows up, what's up, dog? And it's you six days from now, right? Would you

and future Wheeler end up sucking dick's fucking butts? Anything like that. You know what's funny you asked that is I, and I, a question I've had my whole fucking life if about

you know, identical twins and I always males especially do they fuck each other that's my question but here's my but here's why I ask

okay but people think I'm joking but I'm not if I was 12 13 going through puberty at my fucking horniest and there was another wheeler right there who could and I could put my hands in the air and this other me could jack me off

I'd or suck my dick my dick I mean, we all tried to suck our dicks. But if I had another me... That's what I'm saying. Don't... So every gay identical twins, I always ask, like, every identical twin I've ever met, do you guys fuck each other?

It's my first question before I introduced my fuck-and-so. So clearly, Corey, Wheeler is on our team with this. Because he's thought it would be. But, yeah, right? That's what I'm saying. Like, any... Dudes, especially, I feel like... But dudes, but are you with me on my point, too,

that if you're 14-year-old... old fucking horny as shit. Of course. And there was another one. Well, hold on. I'm not, well, first of all, I'm the one who's not on, like, I wouldn't fuck my future self. But here's my question on the twin thing.

You said, would you not let them suck your dick or jack you off? But would you suck your twins dick or jack your twins dick? Well, after he sucked my eye, would probably. How do you figure out who gets to go first? Remember how earlier I said I skipped right past the initial answer and I was interested in the discussion of the details? this right here is what I'm talking about. I thought literally every, especially man,

every man that I posed this to, I thought would immediately be like, yeah, of course. And then I'd be like, okay, but check it out. What's the logistics of it? Who's going first? Who's top? Because I know you're going to say you want to have your preference, but future you's got to have the exact same preference.

But also, how are you going to work that out? At 13, at 13, you've got to let future sell fuck you because then you'll get to experience it next week. But also at 13. I was so fucking horny. I would have sucked a dude. I would have sucked my dick to have me suck my own dick.

No question. Because no one in the future that meant that you would suck your own dick. Okay, but you're an adult man now with the, you know, the sands of time weighing on you and all those experiences. Well, yeah, but I'd do that too just to dig around. For sure. Just for something fun to do. Well, see. No, I knew he would, I knew he would say this, but I had thought about it a lot today.

Can you see? I was smoking. I was smoking weed alone in a hotel. We're in Hollywood. Let's fucking pitch of that shit. Well, here's the thing. I knew he was going to say that.

But, like, that's future Wheeler. Okay. Well, like, it's different for each person, man. Like, I don't, I'm not interested in fucking, I'll fuck current Wheeler right now. Wheeler, would you like some, these are weedos. These are weed cheetos. No, I'm good, man.

You good? But why would we, Whito is making you fart. Everything makes him fart. That's my secret. Everything makes him. My point is, I'm not interested in fucking me.

Well, that's, but that's where I guess we're identical twins a little different because it's a different person. It's a different person. It's your brother. But I guess, yeah, I'm not into incest. Right. I mean, I'm not against it either. I'm talking about this is like, it's literally you.

Like, it's, it's you. It's just you from the few. But my point is, if you had an identical twin, what is there to do but fuck him? I don't understand. Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. Why wouldn't you suck this dude? Listen, I get there.

I get it. It's a good fucking tennis partner, but still, when you get home. I'm so glad I asked you this question. I knew this was going to hit. Yeah. Okay, so. I just don't feel like it's that. Of course, who wouldn't fuck Wheeler Walker?

Yeah, I'll tell you who would fuck Wheel of Walker Jr. is, Norman Walker, Norman Walker, my fucking twin brother. If I had one, you know. Well, we've got to end on that.

Absolutely. Thank you so much, but it's always a pleasure. Thanks for coming back. It's great seeing you guys, man. Absolutely. It was a nice coincidence that we were in this fucking shithole city together.

Get WW3, everybody. Get WW3, and we'll have the links up in the bio of this podcast. Go see him on tour. This has been Wheeler Walker Jr., and we love you, buddy. Love you, too, man.

And what's, hold on, before we get off. You guys get a good audience on this, right? Oh, yeah. This is going to move some units? It's going to move some units. All right, cool. Yeah. I just want to make sure.

Enough that I don't feel bad for having to give you those tickets back. Okay, cool. All right, well, skis. Ski! Can you give us a skew, wheeler? Ski! There we go. And we're done.

Thank you all for listening to the well-read show. We'd love to stick around longer, but we got to go. Tune in next week if you got nothing to do. Thank you, God bless you, good night, and skew.