wellRED podcast - Ads On Your Fridge & The Fall of America!

Episode Date: October 15, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 And we thank them for sponsoring the show. Well, no, I'll just go ahead. I mean, look, I'm money dumb. Y'all know that. I've been money dumb ever, since ever, my whole life. And the modern world makes it even harder to not be money dumb, in my opinion. Because used to, you, like, had to write down everything you spent or you wouldn't know nothing. But now you got apps and stuff on your phone.
Starting point is 00:00:19 It's just like you can just, it makes it easier to lose count of, well, your count, the count every month, how much you're spending. A lot of people don't even know how much they spend on a per month basis. I'm not going to lie, I can be one of those people. Like, let me ask you right now, skewers out, whatnot, sorry, well-read people, people across the skew universe, I should say. Do you even know how many subscriptions that you actively pay for every month or every year? Do you even know? Do you know how much you spend on takeout or delivery,
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Starting point is 00:03:14 He's dead. Rest in peace to him. He joins Bryce in the afterlife of nothingness and banality. Drew, I got something that'll piss you off. You want to hear it? Sure. I saw this like two days ago, and it immediately made me think,
Starting point is 00:03:29 like, I should do a segment on well-read, just call stuff that won't hit for Drew. I mean, look, this don't hit for me, neither. But I think I have more of the, I'll just forget about it in a couple days. I could see you seething about it, and rightfully so. Samsung just introduced that they're starting with new program,
Starting point is 00:03:47 their beta testing it, which for the record, I think I knew that some fridges had TVs in them. Like, I guess I just assumed. Like, yeah, you know, that makes sense. People have a TV in the kitchen. They're going to start putting them in it. They're going to start running ads, like unprompted ads on your refrigerator, right?
Starting point is 00:04:05 And by the way, that are curated for you, meaning the only way they can curate something for you is if they have some sort of access to your information, whether that be their listening, whether whatever. And if that's not bad enough, in my brain, I was like, okay, well, when you sign up for like a Netflix or a prime or whatever, they have like certain tiers where it's like you can pay, it can be cheaper, but there'll be ads on it. So I was like, maybe this is like a cheaper fridge, which is still crazy. But now this bitch is $1,800. And my first question to you is, is that how much fridges cost? Because I just realized I've never bought a fridge. and number two, how you feel about ads on the other refrigerators? I mean, that might be the cheaper option, to be honest with you.
Starting point is 00:04:55 Right. I don't, I mean, obviously the low level, just normal-ass fridge, I think they're like 600 bucks, but like my in-laws fridges are like 10 grand. Really? Yeah, but they're supposed to last forever and they look like walls. Right. But meanwhile, though, like, when I say I've never purchased a fridge, I don't mean I've never had a fridge.
Starting point is 00:05:15 I have. that I've either lived in apartments that were partially furnished or... No, I think everybody got that, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nobody heard that and was like, you know, never had a fridge. Right, that's so stupid of me. They thought someone's always bought his fringes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, exactly.
Starting point is 00:05:31 And, like, I mean, technically, I guess that's true if landlords are people. But, like, you know, you said, like, oh, these fridges are supposed to last a long time. Well, dude, when I lived at my granny's house, and you remember, I was a piece of shit house or whatever, but like that fridge that was in it was just, it was my grannies from the 70s. And it, there was a solid. It was fine.
Starting point is 00:05:51 I mean, that's like one of the industries that was like prime for like, what they call it planned obsolescence. Yes. But we can get off on that in a second. So it's a smart fridge, but it's reading your thoughts. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:06:05 I got more on it, but go ahead. Doing ads. Can you opt out? This kind of reminds me of, is it Mercedes or BMW? one of those luxury car brands, you buy the car but you license the tech now? Yes.
Starting point is 00:06:20 And if you don't pay the fee, they just take it from you? Yes. And there's a big lawsuit going around. It may have been settled. I saw it first on John Oliver how like basically this one farmer, I'm sure several had noticed it, but he spoke up on it. This one farmer, like he actually read all the fine print in this John Deere
Starting point is 00:06:39 purchasing agreement or whatever. And he found out that through their jargon, like you technically do not own a John Deere, you lease it from them, right? And so basically they made it to where like, you know, the only way to, it's like they're doing it with cars.
Starting point is 00:06:54 Like this has a computer mainframe on it. So if you want to get it fixed, you can't just take it down to Billy Bob's service because he don't have the computer thing. Well, John Deere did the same thing too. And so not only was it screwing over customers who are now, you know,
Starting point is 00:07:10 they got them bent over a barrel. Like if you want it done, you got to come here. so we can charge whatever. It's also like all these little mom and pops that like primarily operate in rural areas fixing farm equipment, they're done. You know, like it's fucked. And they realize like, yeah, you technically don't own this.
Starting point is 00:07:26 You lease it and they can come get it anytime. And if you don't agree to this, whatever. I don't know that that's the same situation with the fridge. But I think you can opt out. And but so, yeah, basically what they're trying to do is like it's what you said, the making things obsolete, but with them too, they're like, well, what if we made a good product that people would want to buy it to last a while? We have to make more money on that. Like we have to be able to not just sell it once, but now we're selling it as a fridge and also
Starting point is 00:07:57 we're renting it out as, hey, buy this too. Every day I awake to a fresh nightmare. I know. I know. I don't even think they're claiming that. Are you, did you just come up with that pitch? No, I mean, I'm really... In order to afford us making a great product, we have to do this, because I don't know they're claiming that. No, I, that was just where my brain went with like, if they, like, you know, you're getting consumer pushback on like, everybody complains about like, hey, you know, used to, you would buy things for life and we didn't mind spending a little bit extra money. And what I assume here is they're like, okay, well, we want to be known for making a good product and we want people to be like, that's a good fridge. I've had mine for several years.
Starting point is 00:08:36 but in order to... None of that is happening. Yeah, I'm saying, well, okay, that's what the press release will say. I don't even think it'll say that. It'll say something about the user experience being optimized through television, and it'll be what you say, and you can opt out of the ads if you just do this and this and this. Dude, I get it furious when I get an ad at the gas station
Starting point is 00:09:03 unless it's functionally R-worded. If it's a stupid ad, then it makes me happy. Now, if I'm going to get a fridge in the middle of night and it's just like some fat fuck selling me cars from two towns over, I'm fully in. I want to say that up front. If this is some kind of stupid program, like the gas station, you know,
Starting point is 00:09:27 and they're like selling an app, but it only goes on cricket phones. Yeah, and they've got some low-level Roku-style T-Rockew style TV, you know, game show that they have at the gas stations, like, or like in cabs. In the wild. Yeah. It started by that bald comedian. He's a bit older.
Starting point is 00:09:43 What's his name? Ben Bailey? No, he's not as big. This dude only got big on the internet through influencers in the wild and whatever his own page is. Well, anyway, he reads, I think he's like a psycho right winger, but he reads ads at gas stations now. Okay.
Starting point is 00:09:59 And there's something like, that's like so dystopian that it like horseshoes back to pleasant for me where I'm like I feel like I'm visiting someone else's life. Right. I'm like, oh, in this culture this fat, bald idiot who thinks that Trump is good
Starting point is 00:10:17 reads me ads about a new show on Tubi. Right. What a weird place I'm visiting when in fact it's just where I live. No, it's all bad. I changed it back. It's all, look, man, if people don't care, that that is truly invasive.
Starting point is 00:10:40 Right. Not just in the sense of like that they're targeted, but also just like the simplest thing is going and grabbing your son's bottle out of the fridge. Yes. Must be monetized. Lack of a better word, colonized by a corporation. If that isn't making people sick to their stomach, I don't know, man.
Starting point is 00:11:00 I mean, I hear you, because I feel like the phrase, man, this is like a black mirror episode. has is sort of almost like the idiocracy was a documentary like it said a lot you know and but I mean for good fucking reason like there's so much stuff that happened in the early seasons of black mirror that you were like wow that's way out there and now they're just sort of commonplace now like the the social ranking that they were beta testing in China and all that shit robot bees but now this where it's like they're already talking about punishments they can last longer than a lifetime yeah I saw that word out In their whole pitch.
Starting point is 00:11:36 What's a great idea. That is. It's like, psychological warfare. This is insane and inhumane. But you're going to let them back out after you do that, do them? Right. I was,
Starting point is 00:11:47 me and Amber were talking about that, though. No, maybe me and my mom. Me and some lady I didn't like. You know, I had a bad trip. Yeah, well,
Starting point is 00:11:54 actually, no, and that's why you've hated me for that before. I've only, I forgot. Yeah. But I, but I,
Starting point is 00:12:00 I've had. The problem with the bad trip isn't just that it was bad. It's that you can't shake it. You can't get out of it. Yeah, it's like mom. For some people, it makes them nuts for a long time, if not forever. Yeah. Well, I mean, I had no way that this isn't going to break people.
Starting point is 00:12:15 I had a buddy. I won't say his name. And he, his son, and I love these people very dearly, his son went to a party and got dosed with like fentanyl. Like it was in a drink or something like that. And he was like drinking it. He does all that, you know, whatever. But like, there he got.
Starting point is 00:12:34 And he didn't know what was happening. And luckily it didn't fucking kill him. You know, I mean, there's a semi-happy end into this that he didn't die. But it fucked him up so bad that he literally went psychotic. And like, had like,
Starting point is 00:12:46 couldn't sleep for several days. And because a lot of it too was he didn't understand, like he, because he didn't willingly take it, he didn't know what was going on. And he thought he was just in hell. The opioid. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:57 I mean, there might have been some other stuff in it too. But like it was a pretty, you know, which I know a high dose of fentanyl is like a grain of sand. But like, he'd never experienced anything like that. And now he's having to go to a mental hospital.
Starting point is 00:13:08 Like he wants to go because it like broke him. And he was, he had all this anxiety and he thought his parents were trying to kill him and all sorts of stuff. And like, you know, when something, that can happen to a human being,
Starting point is 00:13:21 your brain breaks. And I would assume, and if you don't know what Drew's talking about, because me and my mom, I think we're talking about this other day, there's an episode of Black Mirror with John Hamm. It's called White Christmas, probably my favorite one,
Starting point is 00:13:30 where basically they put this chip in your brain and they can put you a simulation that to you feels like a thousand years. But in reality, only a couple minutes passed. And I saw, I don't know, is Marsha Blackburn or somebody that was like, they're not like,
Starting point is 00:13:46 they're not on the board for this, but they were talking about the implications of it. And the way they were trying to sell it was like, you know, we have a prison overpopulation. There's two, the prisons are crowded. And I'm like, yeah, there's a better way, I think, to solve that problem than, you know, waterboarding someone's brain.
Starting point is 00:14:06 Yeah. But like, see, if I'm a, if I'm a person and like, I've got Bain, right, and you've, and you've got Roscoe. And we know we're going to jail. My point is, I can see how they could easily sell this to people. Because like if you tell me, Corey, you're going to jail for 50 years or you'll go to jail for five minutes, but it'll feel like a hundred years in your head. I'm probably going to go, shit.
Starting point is 00:14:28 I mean, at least I get to, you know, take care of Bain. But in reality, the guy that. comes back is not going to be me. You know what I mean? Like at all. Yeah, but if you're choosing 50 or 100, the guy going to be you anyway. Right. Well, yeah, I mean, I'd never get out. The problem is these people are monsters. The ones who deserve this are the ones on the other side of it.
Starting point is 00:14:50 And it's going to be a thousand years. Right. It's got raped to child. Yeah. What if you get stuck in there? Yeah. And again, to you, you've been in their eternity. and then they bring you out.
Starting point is 00:15:03 And you're like, wait, what? I got to come back to Earth. I've seen the devil. Yeah, we make you go crazy. I don't look. I mean, I guess I got us in the weeds. Going back to the fridge. Oh, I don't care.
Starting point is 00:15:14 They are trying to squeeze. It does feel like, though, with stuff like this, sorry to be Tim Boyle, I guess. Sometimes I see that, and I'm like, that is not a company planning for a future. Right. And then you go, so is it like venture capital trying to squeeze as much money out of this company as possible, which elevates the stock, then they cash out, and then the company falls because its reputation is dipped. So in other words, and you're like, what do you mean by that, Drew?
Starting point is 00:15:48 Well, if you sell ad space on your shitty refrigerators and the ad money that you get pumps up your numbers for a quarter, now your projections are huge. You hit a bonus and your stock's soar. And then it takes two quarters. or three, because these are refrigerators, for people to realize, no, actually what you do is ruin your entire company's reputation. That's the better option to, it kind of seems like a lot of rich people are just like,
Starting point is 00:16:15 well, look, America and the West in general is done. Let's just squeeze everything we can out of this, turnip, and then let's throw it out because it's rotten. Let's get all the blood out of it. I don't think that's tin foily at all. I mean, it's there's, it's not confusing to me, why the richest people in America and across the world
Starting point is 00:16:36 have like 19 different underground bunkers that are set up for them to be able to live for 50 plus years. Have you seen the thing? Maybe Mark brought this up. Maybe my buddy Slob did. How is Slob? He's great. Good.
Starting point is 00:16:54 I love Slob. I think it's Mark who said it. That like there's some interview out there with an anonymous billionaires head of security. It was Mark. And he just like admitted
Starting point is 00:17:08 and he was like, oh, we talk about it all the time when like there's a moment where we have a signal and we're just going to kill him and take it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:14 I wouldn't have said that out loud but you know, I get it. Nobody. Yeah, because you're not, you're only, you're only loyal
Starting point is 00:17:22 as long as the money lasts. And if there's an apocalypse, there's no, you know what I mean? Like, well, there's resources. And by the way, this to me,
Starting point is 00:17:31 if you want to me to get real timful. How to, I mean, this is with a big play with AI. How do we prevent the French Revolution?
Starting point is 00:17:39 Well, we got to beat them. Well, how do we do that? Control them? How do we do that? I don't know. AI, tech.
Starting point is 00:17:48 But without getting far into that, if you really want to think about it, you're right, Apocalypse is money worthless. Sure, but there's resources. There's technology. There's weaponry.
Starting point is 00:17:59 But I'm saying they kill them and then they immediately have all those resources. Exactly. It's like a question of leadership. Dude, I think half these billionaires are so arrogant. They really think they're just smart. I think the only two... And or liked.
Starting point is 00:18:12 Right. I was what I was going to say, I don't know that either one of them are billionaires, but the only two super rich dudes who I see making it in this situation is the CEO of Costco and the CEO of Arizona T. Like, those are the only two guys that I think the people around them and be like, you know what? They have been, they're all right. They're as good of rich people as you can.
Starting point is 00:18:32 Yeah, but it doesn't mean that their security guards won't kill them. That's true. It just means that you and I won't shoot them. That's also accurate. Yeah. And speaking of AI, this is another thing that... It's funny thing about a security guard being like, I wasn't going to kill you dog, but you kept 99 cents. And I keep it on it.
Starting point is 00:18:51 He didn't change the hot dog price, man. I mean, what are you going to fucking... What are you going to do? Speaking of AI, there's like... I guess this is with advertising and AI, too, they're both like sort of catch 20. for me in a way because like, you know, I look at advertising and I'm like, okay, well, inherently it's not overall evil.
Starting point is 00:19:10 Like, for instance, you mentioned something about. AI, yes, it is. No, no, no, no. I didn't say AI. Marketing commercials. Yes, AI for sure. But like, like for, you said something about TV shows a minute ago. I can't remember. Like, I love advertising because it lets, it does let me know.
Starting point is 00:19:25 Like, otherwise, I wouldn't have known that there was a new alien show. And I want to know that. Or, oh, I didn't know that, you know, you could get a pressure washer down there that I whatever like inherently I don't think it started out is the most evil thing but just like anything we as a country or capitalist just go well let's make it the worst thing ever like how can we got to take it to the the end thing I would argue that advertising and marketing have a slim distinction that and you can choose to define them differently and pick apart my argument but for our sake today that's the evil line which is advertising is this is a thing
Starting point is 00:20:01 we're doing and I'm letting you know. Exactly. And marketing is how do I trick people? Right. Yeah. And basically that comes, that boils down to, I guess,
Starting point is 00:20:11 on whether, if I think, if I like the product, then it's not evil. You know, like for me, it's like, I think it's more like,
Starting point is 00:20:18 is there some semblance of honesty here? Yeah. And what they are saying they're getting and what I think I'm getting, is there like some symmetry there. Yeah. Like when you hear that cocoa melon, the carton, tune and I think you know this if you don't.
Starting point is 00:20:34 I do. It's like we don't watch at our house. It's addicted. Yeah. With the color palette and the jump cut. Marketing research is, that's not an advertisement at all. That has nothing to do with advertising. Right.
Starting point is 00:20:44 But marketing research is what led them, led them to find that out. Right. And then to do it. And so that's a good point about it. They're not telling any lies, but they are tricking you and I. It's manipulative. This is for kids. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:56 In fact, it's to get kids addictive. So it's that kind of thing. And I think that that's always been evil. it's just, man, we're a greedy, we are a, dude, we're so greedy and we're so individualistic in this country. That combo has really made for a gnarly world that we are currently as a country kind of in charge of, but that's going. I don't, yeah, it doesn't feel that way. Like I saw, I was watching this D&D Dungeons and Dragons. Like, there's this podcast.
Starting point is 00:21:28 I can remember what they call. I wish I could. I'll share the clip next week because it was. It's amazing. They're these comics and actors and stuff that do it as like a live stream, and they're so good at acting that, like, they just, you know. They do all kinds of shows. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:42 What's that company called? They're rad. They're so rad. And there was this one the other day. And this dude was like, I'm sure that he had some of this written down because it was just such good dialogue that I can't believe that it was freestyle, but he was playing this warlord or something. He had this quote in there.
Starting point is 00:21:58 And he was like, basically, you know, you all, you all think that. that, you know, you have choice, right? You have choice. And he's like, well, I do have choice. And he's like, yeah, right, you're going down the road. And it's like, you can turn left or you can turn right. But here's the deal. You didn't build the road. I did.
Starting point is 00:22:14 You know what I mean? So it doesn't matter whether you go left or right. I have predetermined that these are your two choices. It's the illusion of choice. You're either going to go here. You're going to go here. And that does feel like anytime freedom, and I do, George Carlin was spitting on this in the 90s, like anytime you think about your freedoms, if you really start,
Starting point is 00:22:31 following the money or following the power structure, it's just kind of like, well, yeah, I mean, what we have is like the very basic levels of like, sure, I picked this shirt out today to wear, but I have to wear one to go into a store. You know, I don't fucking know. But the AI thing I was talking about, this fridge also,
Starting point is 00:22:52 this is one of those things where I'm like, man, conceptually, that's cool as fuck. And if I'd have just seen it on the Jetsons and didn't, as a kid and didn't realize how damaging AI and stuff is, I'd be like, this is awesome because one thing it does is like... What would be awesome about it? No, no, no, just this particular thing, this particular situation. Oh, you're asking. Go ahead, though.
Starting point is 00:23:09 Well, this would make life a little bit easier because when you put your product, like you have your like grocery list or whatever. And when you put products in and take products out, like it keeps up with all that shit. So if you're at the store... I was going to tell you that you need more. You need more or you have this. Like, this is in stock, you know. Again, it's not worth Memphis losing water.
Starting point is 00:23:31 I'm saying, if... It's also, Kroger's going to pay that company for access to that so that when you walk in the store, they can know that you will pay more for it because you're out. Couldn't agree more. I know that it's... I'm saying just conceptually, if none of that, if none of that was involved and it was just like, this actually is just a thing to make your life easier, like a wheelchair or something for fat people. And it would never have ads.
Starting point is 00:23:52 No, I know. I know. Again, I'm talking about... The example of unfettered greed. Yeah. Mixed with the individualism of America saying, well, we can't tell. them no. Congress couldn't possibly tell a company not to do this. Of course. It's not good. It's a bad culture. We have boiled down individualism, freedom, and consumerism to now we are being fed
Starting point is 00:24:20 advertisements. It's funny too because we're going to cut to a break in a moment. But I feel like we are the gas station ad where there's something folksy almost about. about it. I really, I genuinely kind of don't mind the insanity of a gas station ad campaign because I'm looking at it and I'm going, I don't think I live in this place. I have no idea because that one dude and Dean Kane are the only two I've ever recognized. There's at least 10 of them. And it's always, I'm like, I might have seen that face before. And then they're advertising a product or a service and I'm going, I don't know anyone who even remotely has something in their life that could need that.
Starting point is 00:25:05 Right, right. This is unbelievable. Yeah. And it makes me think, I think everyone savvy, like, say, Pepsi was like, everyone's going to hate us. If they close the door on their screaming family, are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we there yet?
Starting point is 00:25:23 Your wife just got done saying to you, I bet your brother can afford a car with better gas mileage, and you close the fucking door and you walk. and you walk over to the pump and you're like, no, I'll do it. And it's not because you're a man or you're like trying to be, you know, uh, chivalrous. It's that you need to be outside of that car for as long as possible. I bet Pepsi was like, hey, if we interrupt that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:49 Oh, yeah. We will never sell another fucking 24 ounce Pepsi to these fathers. Yeah. So no. And everyone kept telling them no. So they kept knocking the price down, knocking the price down, until Tobe.com backslash the app was like, fuck it, we'll throw an ad up. Here's Tits McGee.
Starting point is 00:26:08 Take it away of Tits. Yeah. And if it was just me, you, Trey, and Tits McGee doing all the ads, I would be for it. That'd be great. You just reminded me of that Louis bit, which I never fully, I mean, obviously, it's about being a father and having kids. We were talking about it recently, and I think that's why I channeled it. That when he's talking about, yeah, he said, he said, when you're going on a family
Starting point is 00:26:27 vacation, he's like, and you pack the car and you. you get everything ready, and you get your wife's in and your kids are in. He's like, when you close the door on your kids, that walk from their side of the car to yours, that's my vacation. I think that is his second or third best joke. It's such a great observation. Because his other ones are so tense. They deal with such tense issues, you know, or they're nasty, which.
Starting point is 00:26:54 That one could be a sign-filled joke. Building the tension is what's so hard for most of us. Yes. And it is why sex is like one of the first things comments talk about. It's because their tension is automatic. Everyone's tense because you're talking about something you're not supposed to. That is interesting because that is one of my favorite Louis bits and it's the least, I don't say the least like Louis. But Louis is very known as having hot takes, controversial stuff, dirty, foul or whatever.
Starting point is 00:27:20 And again, that's not, that's one of the few. Well, there was a lot of marriage as miserable stuff. And I do think looking back, that was his cheat code. Yes. By cheat code, I mean, when you go, okay, give me 10 of the funniest people alive. Why is Louie going to be more successful than, I don't know, you throw one at me? Gary Goldman. Why is Louis going to be more successful than Gary Goldman, who is equally, in my opinion, as funny as Lou?
Starting point is 00:27:47 Oh, yeah. And there's 15 different ways to explain why you can go with relatability. You can go with this. But, like, however Louis solved it, I think it's relatability. personally. It's relatedability. He's a schlub. Gary's a very good looking tall. I think how Louis solved it, how he got there was a lot of Louis shit really was, man, life is miserable. It's miserable. It's terrible. It's terrible. Yeah, it is. Yeah, right. And I mean, you know, Norm had a lot of that stuff too. But with Louis, it's like that's the one of the few bits.
Starting point is 00:28:20 Really? Norm? Just about the, you can't. Oh, yeah, you can't. You ever heard of life? And how it's, uh, it only ends in disaster. But that's one of the few Louis bits where I can go, I could see Seinfeld or Nate Bargatsy or Jim Gaffigan also doing that. And that's not true of a lot of Lewis because it's just such a true, like you have to be a dad to even think of this or experience it. Yeah, and I do think I just aped it like because we were just talking about it. But I was just thinking, so I do think I just copied it.
Starting point is 00:28:54 Well, that's okay. Who gives a shit? Oh, I don't. I was just like, yeah, that is where I got. that I think. Yeah, but it's true that some part of the explanation as to why the gas station ads are so bad is that they're affordable. People can afford the ad space.
Starting point is 00:29:11 Some part of the explanation as to why that ad space is so affordable is that big timers are like, fuck that. We don't need it. Why would we do that? Yeah. Our shit's in there. I hope that happens with the fridge. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:22 The only thing I can imagine you could convince some top of the line company of doing it, is, hey, what if just as they run out of sandwich meat, we just throw up the Oscar Meyer. I could see Oster Meyer being like, I guess I could see that not being annoying as a mom. Not only are you being told that you're out of lunch meat, you're also being told here's a quality product and it's on sale. Right.
Starting point is 00:29:46 And because that's hidden under the guise of being helpful. Like, no, we're just saying we know you're out of it. And then why not get Oscar Meyer? He will punch his whole fist. Up to his elbow through the goddamn smart fridge. Dude, you already got there. But the reason that I brought, like when I saw this, the reason I wanted to tell you so I was like,
Starting point is 00:30:07 I would give anything for a ring cam at three in the morning when Drew just can't sleep and he just goes in there to get like a sandwich and just beats the fuck out of his fridge like it was one of his buddies that called him a queer in school. Like, I could just see it happening. And I'd be, dude, me too. And do you know how many times I'd see an average? Jasmine, I'm at that fucking ring.
Starting point is 00:30:29 You think I'm a failure because we're out of milk? Is that what you're saying to me? I can't afford milk. Okay, I know the phone ain't ringing. Okay, sure. Okay, sure. Yeah. I think that it would make me cry.
Starting point is 00:30:42 Yeah, it's sad. I think I've said on here before that I often cry when the helpline is automated and I can't, I have to stay on the phone because I need to change my flight or whatever it is. And I just can't figure out what right buttons or things to say. I have broken down at the sadness and the lack of humanity. And I could see myself doing that after I punch, elbow through. Right. Don't get me wrong.
Starting point is 00:31:08 There were a lot of older people in the 90s who when like, you know, cable was out and 24-hour news was out and MTV that was just like, oh, they've, everything's worse now, sure. But I do remember when I was a kid, like my dad, whenever like the, I remember when the N64 came out. My dad was so pumped about it. He wasn't like angry at the class. He was like, man, this is so awesome.
Starting point is 00:31:29 Like, look at these graphics. This is great. And he would be like, when I was a kid, all we had was tech mobile. And, like, every new little advancing technology, my dad would actually, he would get excited. He's always been a tech guy. And he never wants to be like, well, it's just ruining everybody. But I feel like now me and you as parents, like every new thing is just bad. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:31:50 Like, like, back then it was like a big screen TV. Oh my God, that's great. It makes the game look better. It was only good. There was no downside to that. I mean, I guess like we were going to spend more time in front of it, but everything was hopeful and great and technology was growing, but it was because,
Starting point is 00:32:05 we deserve it and we worked hard and we want, you know, but now it's... You know why. You didn't describe to me a new refrigerator. Right. Refigerated better. Right.
Starting point is 00:32:15 Exactly. A billboard. A refrigerator being turned into an asset for the company. Right. And I'm telling you, we've boiled down our consumer. It's bad. Like, if you don't see that and be like, fuck, that's bad.
Starting point is 00:32:32 I know. And I think the only, I think there's only three types of people. Really, it's me and you who see it and go, that is bad. The people who work in that world and go, yes, yes. And I guess people who just don't think at all. And they're just like, oh, they're doing that now. Does it like show TV shows? Like, what's the selling point?
Starting point is 00:32:53 You know that? It'll let you know when you're out of middle. Let's, let's see. I'm super against it regardless. I'm just wondering if that's part of the selling point of like, when you walk to the kitchen, you don't have to turn it off. It'll throw to this screen. Yeah, I think it also,
Starting point is 00:33:12 now, I think also you can watch stuff on it, like TV and stuff, which like, yeah, that's a sale, but like the primary thing of this is like basically when you're like, when you don't have something on and your fridge is just in fridge mode, when you walk in there because it can recognize voices too that was another thing it recognize if you're talking in there it recognizes and it curates adds to that person right so it just it just feels your presence in there like a motion sensor or something is like oh cori's in here uh hot dogs you know what i mean whatever um hey speaking of uh hot dogs i love them and you know what else i love i love my good friends over at zippics right they've got these nicotine toothpicks which listen man i'll tell you what this right this right here is a good product. And I genuinely mean that. I am vaping a lot less. I mean, listen, I still do it because I love nicotine. But it has my wife even mentioned me. She's like, you don't really. I love these things. I do too. Like my mom on them too, by the way. And they send us every flavor. And I'll be honest, you got to find your flavor. You do. You got to find your flavor because the nicotine is in
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Starting point is 00:36:49 It exists now and you can still just kind of do whatever. Like, bro, fucking, speaking of which, I look like, you're a law, this is a great law question. Okay. Probably not how you frame that, but about libel and and smearing and all that stuff. Slander. Slander. So I had heard the whole like RFK claims that, you know, Tylenol causes autism.
Starting point is 00:37:14 This is old news at this point, but I had deleted Twitter before that. So I'm getting, I'm sort of like one of those, the way I consume news now is like I'm one of those countries that gets the runner up in the Super Bowl shirts. you know what I mean a couple weeks later like I get it with I still get it wrong well you know how like Albania didn't get Michael Jackson until 93 I'm sort of like that I do get it I do get it by the way you you've been off Twitter for a while and I commend you I've I've been off for over a month now and I know you know what's really funny I deleted my Twitter on 9-11 because it was the day after Charlie Kirk died and I'll never forget.
Starting point is 00:37:54 I will never forget. Like, that's how I know. How long been off? Oh, 9-11. So I heard RFK say that thing about the Tylenol thing. And while I know that most of the stuff he says is just conjecture of bullshit, I thought at least there was some study of some kind, but they asked him and he basically was just,
Starting point is 00:38:14 they were like, why do you think that? And he was just kind of like vibes. You know what I mean? I don't know. I was just saying, whatever. And this is kind of. Coming out, by the way, right at the time when the Tylenol murders documentary just came up, when that bullshit happened to Tylenol in the 80s, when somebody just said, oh, it's
Starting point is 00:38:30 Tylenol doing all this stuff, and they had to pull their products off. And now this, it's like, how can they not sue him to? So there was, and I haven't seen the documentary yet, but I sort of remember the story, there was a bunch of these people that got infected with something, and they thought that the common denominator was they'd all taken Tylenol, so they thought there was like a bad batch. of Tylenol. Now, I can't remember whether there was or wasn't. But like... It's the classic correlation does not equal causation.
Starting point is 00:38:58 Right. So Tylenol had to take all their Tylenol away, which like that alone is like, that's a big deal. But the worst thing was like, so many people that didn't know the full story just saw Tylenol murder. And then like they were like, well, fuck, I'll just take Advil.
Starting point is 00:39:14 Sure. Yeah, of course. Dude, if you think there's my mom out there right now who were like, I don't really believe any of that, but why the hell would I risk it. Dude, so I'm going anvil. Celsius that you saw that they're the energy drink company where they
Starting point is 00:39:30 apparently they are canned in the same factory as like either white claw or one of those situations and they accidentally put white claw alcohol stuff into these energy drinks and they had to pull them off and it was like
Starting point is 00:39:46 at first it's like oh well that's a harmless whatever and then it's like man not if you're fucking 30 years sober and you think you're getting an energy drink you know whatever. And I, like, I'm not brand loyal to any, anything, really. I just, oh, there's, that's the closest one here and I like that flavor. But I did drink Celsius on occasion. And like, even though I know they've got it handled now probably, my brain just will skip over the Celsius because I'm like, no, something happened. Something's going on with them. And so, like, I bet, like this whole Tylenol thing, like, surely they can sue him into oblivion, right?
Starting point is 00:40:20 Uh, I don't know, probably. I'm sure they're going to try to do something. There are some studies in which, if I'm not mistaken, a thing that was crubbing up with a lot of people, a lot of autistic children was that their mothers had taken Tylenol and also given them the MMR shot within the first something months. I don't remember it exactly. And it has not been verified at all. Right.
Starting point is 00:40:53 It's just one of the theories. It's weird because it sort of started similarly to vaccination. What's the word I'm looking for? That whole conspiracy theory. Yeah, yeah. Which is like, hey, we noticed. Right. You get this shot and then a month later you get an autism diagnosis.
Starting point is 00:41:16 Right. Which is a proof of anything other than the fact that it happened. That's my understanding. I didn't look much more into it. When they started to say also circumcised kids that are giving Tylenol end up autistic. And so that's another call. I'm autistic then, I guess.
Starting point is 00:41:35 So there's no autistic girls? Right. But also, right. Non-Jews. Like, I don't. They do seem to be a very specific. None of them are fat either. Like, I'm pretty sure I know some guys with some four skins who really like cloth.
Starting point is 00:41:51 You know. Yeah. Let me This, you reminded me of this that I wanted. This kind of came up on Gravy Baby and I forgot to read the quote. I've been thinking about this tweet for a while now. Because it's also me, which I'll get to. It'll be obvious why it's them, but it's also me. Working on a new unified theory of American reality, I'm calling,
Starting point is 00:42:16 everyone is 12 now. Quote, I'm strong and I want to. have like 50 kids and a farm. Of course you do, big guy. You're 12. And I don't want to eat vegetables. And I think steak and french fries is the only meal. Hell yeah, only you're 12. And maybe if there's crime, we send the army in.
Starting point is 00:42:35 Bless your heart, my 12 year old guy. But that's also me. Yeah, right. To a certain extent. Because it's like, it's like, man, I really hate Trump. And I wish a superhero would shoot him in the face. Yeah. Or if you want me to get like real, ruffle some feathers of our listeners, all right, there's fascists outside.
Starting point is 00:43:01 We all agree with that. They're evil and they have weapons and they've weaponized the military and ice. What are we going to do about it? I think we should tell somebody. Right. Not known. The people in charge. This is against the wolves.
Starting point is 00:43:16 You mean they're friends? Them. Excuse me. it's against the wolves for you to do this. Right. We're going to have a meeting and vote. You're going to get shot in the head. Right.
Starting point is 00:43:33 And dude, we're all 12. We are all 12. And our comprehension is 12 year olds too. And I don't know if it's like our selective, um, selective deciphering or selective like how, like, okay, you mentioned the French Revolution earlier, right? in which we all know, guillotine, like they chop people's heads off.
Starting point is 00:43:53 And by the way, that worked. It was as effective, you know. And when we... I'd say it's still having an effect today. That's kind of why I brought it up. I know. They're worried about that. But we look at things like the French Revolution and we're like, that had...
Starting point is 00:44:07 What are you going to do? That had to happen. They weren't letting him have bread. So, yeah, that, you know, those people, it was dangerous. They were... Winners always get to decide. Like, everyone's like, if you win, and it's like, yeah. But we will, I say we,
Starting point is 00:44:20 not me and you, me and you've been very pro-geotene, I feel like for a while. But like you'll have people who like are well-meaning liberals, I guess, and they'll have known about the French Revolution and we'll have agreed with that ideology and we'll have known about this take our way and agree with that ideology. But now if you even suggest a hint of violence, they're like, Beth knocked away, we can't do it like that. And it's like, I kind of think we can't not do it. I think history has proven that it's very hard to do it in other ways.
Starting point is 00:44:49 It's not impossible. it's very hard. Because the other option is doing what you just said. Let's go tell the people in charge. They fucking know. They are the people. That's who's doing it. And they know.
Starting point is 00:45:02 Obama was on Mark Merrin's last podcast episode. And I listened to it because it was Mark Merrin's last episode. I wish it hadn't been Obama. I was fine with it all. I just wish Mark hadn't been on this tear lately and then done that. It's like, man. He mentioned the drone strikes, by the way. it just kind of got, you know, farted over.
Starting point is 00:45:22 It was like, if you can separate everything, it was a good conversation and all the things made me feel good, but that's sort of the problem is like an Obama type where, you know, as a liberal person or progressive person, like you'll hear all these things, and you're like, man, that is true. That is a nice sentiment. You go, but it's not applicable to what's going on right now, so it's kind of just window dressing, you know.
Starting point is 00:45:43 Like he, Obama said something that I was like, damn, that's a really good point. However, I think you and a lot of people are guilty of it, where he said, if your convictions don't cost anything, they're just fashion. In other words, like, if you, like the reaida, the Fed. But he uses that type, it's one of his things he's been doing for a while. And the first few times he said, and I agree with him, we said, don't clap vote. Right.
Starting point is 00:46:09 He uses that mentality to sort of try and shame people into organizing behind the party and voting and all that. And we don't have to get into, I mean, I think. we've hashed out here. Maybe we haven't. My whole thing with that is like, well, sure, but we did that. You all didn't, you know, you all didn't modify Roe v. Wade. We don't have single-payer health care. We don't have any sort of immigration reform that we could have latched onto that would have, in my opinion, precluded the conversation to get us out of what we're in right now. Right. But I didn't mean, I'm not trying to like, I mean, I don't know, I guess. this was your conversation.
Starting point is 00:46:50 And for a second, I was like, I didn't mean to get us into this part of the. The only reason I, the only reason I bring anything up is so that I want to hear your take on. I don't give a shit if you go. I don't know what we were talking about. Oh,
Starting point is 00:47:02 well, I wanted to me, we were talking about the Democratic Party from 2008 to 2016, which is what I was about to do. Well, I'd like to complain about it a little bit in the sense of just something I've really been feeling. I think I've been feeling it for a very,
Starting point is 00:47:13 very long time. It's just like the thought hasn't really been to my forefront of like, you know, people go like, oh, America's fucked, you know, and there'll be people go, oh, you know, we say that every 20 years and then we rebound, right? It was like, oh, we had the, you know, there was World War II, it was a civil war and we always come back, you know, like, we'll be, we'll be all right, we'll get through this, but I know so many people that just have that attitude, but then they just go on with their life. And I'm like, okay, all of that is true. There's been times where we thought the apocalypse was coming and we persevered.
Starting point is 00:47:43 but the reason that we did was because people did stuff to make it not happen. Like, it's not like it magically happened. It's not like, oh, yeah, Vietnam happened and then just over time it stopped happening. No, people, there were, from legislators to Martin Luther King, people marching. Like, yes, I agree with you that we have always overcome, but it requires action. You can't just go, well, it just, we always overcome. Right, but you got to do something on whatever level, like, whatever level you can. I have a paradoxical response to that, which.
Starting point is 00:48:13 is one, I do think people are still doing stuff. I agree. So that's good. It is good. But two, we hear way less about them now because the apparatus of power has recognized they've learned whether we have or not. And they're looking at history, whether we are or not. And they're going, how can we prevent this from Hammond?
Starting point is 00:48:34 Right. Here's the things we did last time that worked a little. Right. And let's throw out the ones that didn't. And also, we are going to not only control most of the media or at least influence it. I mean, dude, we'll get into that in a second. I do want to get into it. We'll also do these huge social media campaigns.
Starting point is 00:48:56 Anytime someone starts making some headway and that way, we'll just have a meeting with Zuck, Daddy. Right. If that person, you know, like, let's figure out how to change this algorithm. And all this, by the way, all this is documented. Like, again, 10 full hat, but like, this is what's happening in your country. right now. You can't. You keep saying,
Starting point is 00:49:13 but everything you're saying makes so much sense and is not crazy to me, just so you know. Yeah, but it is crazy because it's insane. Like it's so more insane than I'm even letting on. Curtis Jarvin is, fancies himself, the philosopher of Silicon Valley.
Starting point is 00:49:28 He has written out. It's not hidden that like we need to turn our whole country into a technocracy. We should divide it into four or five quadrants, blah, blah, blah, blah. And like, J.D. Van's Peter Thiel and Elon Musk think he's right. Right. And these are very powerful people.
Starting point is 00:49:47 You know what I mean? So it's like it's not that crazy. So it's definitely not crazy to back up just a little bit and be like it kind of feels like if they're not control in the media, they sure are influencing it, right? Yeah. Well, that's the thing too, what people I really think don't think enough about like, you know, let's say you got Wendy's McDonald's and there's so many different. restaurants in this company, there's so much variety. Right. But look at parent companies, right? If you look at
Starting point is 00:50:16 the parent company of who owned the conglomerate that owns all of these things, you'll realize, like, yes, of course, they're different brands that offer different products, but the money trickles up to the same four or five people. Well, the same is true of television and news and newspapers and newspapers and stuff. So like, oh, damn, all the newspapers are saying. Right, because one fucking dude owns all 15 of those newspapers and owns CNN and owns this and this and that. So it's like, yes, they are different things. But I mean, all five of my, of Robbie's brothers and sisters are different people, but they have the same daddy.
Starting point is 00:50:52 You know what I mean? You are describing, I think, the problem inside the Democratic Party as it currently is. And what they're up against is what I was just talking about, which is inarguably scarier, which is the current machination of the Republican Party. There's a very brilliant journalist that I like named Christopher Hedges, who wrote in the lead-up to Harris v. Trump, this is corporatocracy versus oligarchy. And he was very honest about it.
Starting point is 00:51:22 He basically was like, do I kind of hope corporatocracy wins sometimes? Yeah. Yeah, for a variety of reasons. The corporatists want a functioning society. society with people who have some money to spend. Of course. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:38 And the oligarchs just want fealty and control. Right. But he was like, but one's going to look a lot better than the other when you've been under the corporate. Anyway, he has a great article about it. He was talking about the election, but I think it's still applicable today.
Starting point is 00:51:53 I firmly believe in my heart that what you have going on in America right now is a struggle for power between the old way of doing colonialism, and American capitalism and the new way, which is kind of Russian style, old school Russian style, not new school. I don't know much about new school rush. I should say USSR style,
Starting point is 00:52:17 which is fucking oligarchy, dude. That's terrifying to think about is like having to think like, oh, hopefully the corporations will save us because it's in rooms to go best interest if we have rooms. You know what I mean? Otherwise, we got to go. Right. We got to go.
Starting point is 00:52:37 And like, it would behoove Pepsi if everybody had expendable income so that they could buy shitty sodas. I think we brought this up on here before in different context. I'm trying to remember what it was. I know it was Disney. And maybe it was a different podcast. But I know there was something with Disney where I was. We talked too much, don't we? How dark it is.
Starting point is 00:52:55 Yeah. It would be like, man, I really hope Disney does the right thing. does the right thing. I know, I know, man. I was thinking about that yesterday in terms of like,
Starting point is 00:53:07 you know, and I don't, we've talked about it a million times on both podcasts, but like the whole Bill Burr thing and how like,
Starting point is 00:53:13 and you did a funny video on it when you were shooting all your comedy heroes or whatever. Oh, which by the way, after this, I wanted to tell you, fucking,
Starting point is 00:53:20 I'll just tell you now, how much I love that new joke that you put up from your Portland set about your dad being a drunk. Thank you. It might not be new,
Starting point is 00:53:29 but I hadn't heard it. Yeah, it's not new, but, you know, it's longer than that. And by the way, I didn't put it up. And I have no idea where they got it. Well, I'm glad they did because... Maybe I had it up in the past. It really fucking tickled me. Like, the ending line of just like, I'll wait till Dad's drunk.
Starting point is 00:53:49 I bet we can afford it. And we could, Corey. Right. That's so fucking great. But I was thinking about, like, you know, you shooting all your comedy heroes or whatever. and how like, like, and I'm guilty of this. Like, I will make fun of people who, like, when there's part of me when the, when some
Starting point is 00:54:09 celebrity does something and everybody's like, I'm so disappointed in you. And I want to be like, how did you even allow this person to encompass so much of your life that they can disappoint you? You know what I mean? What do you mean, Billy Eilis disappointed you? Who gets just listening to her reason you shut the fuck up? But then I go, no, I mean, Bill Bird did disappoint me. I do think there's a difference.
Starting point is 00:54:31 Yeah, because we do that, I guess. Maybe. That's a good point. What I was going to say is we're a fan of Bill Burr for that reason. Because he's as a person. And that's the thing with comedians, like if an actor or a musician or something does something horrible, you can just go, well, I just like the music or I just like the roles they play. I wasn't disappointed in Cosby. I was shocked.
Starting point is 00:54:53 I didn't like it. Right. I had negative feelings, but I wasn't like, how could he do this? Yeah. Yeah, I get it. So I think it's like the Azis. thing where Aziz is the only person from the cancel culture cycle
Starting point is 00:55:05 in the comedy world that I can think of that someone else may think of someone else who I felt like got something they didn't really deserve. But I've always said every time I've said that, the reason he got it is his whole fan. He just had a book come out dating as a
Starting point is 00:55:21 feminist. His fan base wanted him to not be the guy depicted in that story. There were plenty of people in America who were like, I'm fine with this behavior that is being described in this story about Azizanzari. I'm not going to see him because I've never liked him. And I think that's what comes from Bill specifically where it's like,
Starting point is 00:55:41 but I was a fan of that rant you went on about Beyonce performing for Gaddafi's children. Yeah, and either you changed or it was never true. And either way is disappointing. I feel duped. And so I'm disappointed. I feel dup. And also I think to me is like not to get up our own asses, or whatever, but like, I mean, obviously, listen, I do, the main reason I do comedy is because
Starting point is 00:56:05 it's the only thing I'm good at. And it was a dream I had when I was five and I don't let go of things easily. That's the main thing. But one of the things that, through the dark times and stuff, always like, gave me hope it when we weren't making money or anything was like, man, comedians are always on the side of the people. We're like the people's artists. Like, we're like the, you know, the gestures who talk shit to the king. And like, that's what we do. And I think, like, no individual comedian is more important than anybody else, but the art form itself has been very important in cultural shifts in helping people make sense of whether it be Vietnam, the Gulf War, the AIDS crisis, like comedians were written, maybe not.
Starting point is 00:56:39 We're in one right now. Do what? Yeah, no, I know. I know that. And that's what disappoints me. And we allowed it. That's what disappoints me is like, up until now, usually the people that were on top of comedy were punching up and saying, fuck, but now the people who are on top of comedy
Starting point is 00:56:58 are with the Sultan. You know what I mean? Like that was, to my knowledge, it's never really, I mean, okay, maybe Bob Ho. It's precisely because that we weren't allowed to say retard anymore. Yeah, that's it. And I'm not trying to be flipped. No, that's true. And I should have said R word.
Starting point is 00:57:14 And I'm not going to say I'm sorry. I'm sorry because it would have made my point. It's distracting from my point now. Literally, what I know. What I've learned about comedians is when they say free speech, they mean don't ever tell me what to do. What to say. Yeah. And when the woke.
Starting point is 00:57:29 stuff started happening, it made comedians so mad that they just flipped. Yeah, and I just don't understand it because I know that people that only know us from... They still safe comedy. At what caught? At what caught?
Starting point is 00:57:44 But bro, like, but you know what's funny is like now they, what, they have their free speech? They're still mad. They're still up there talking crazy. That's because they're untalented. You know what I mean? I'm very curious as to what Dave does next. Yeah. Dave quite literally, and he
Starting point is 00:57:59 gets very little credit or blame or whatever for it, you know, it's mostly Rogan. Dave Chappelle made it to where you could go back to doing that. I know. And he also made it to where everyone could be full-chested hating on trans people. And I'm telling you, that's not all of our problem, but it is absolutely part and parcel for what's going on there. No, I couldn't agree more. And it's so unfortunate, too, because, like, right before that whole Chappelle thing
Starting point is 00:58:29 started and look everybody should and we all do have some problems with jerry seinfeld for many reasons but i'm talking about this one instance where it was finally a top comedian actually saying a thing that i was like that is that is correct and that's a great way to interpret that he had mentioned before that he'd talked before that the left was like ruining comedy he'd said that you know and then he went did this interview and like he wasn't even asked about this but he said hey i'd like to say something because i need to go back and apologize and say that i got something wrong And they're like, what is it? He goes, well, at one point I'd said that like the left and like college campuses and stuff were ruining comedy, he goes, and I just, that's not true. He's like, that was a stupid thing for me to say. And I was, you know, being an old man at the time. And he, then he brought up, he said, look, are there certain things now that if you say them, you get in a little, you get a little bit more heat than you used to? He goes, absolutely. He's like, but that's always been true because that's how society works. He said, and your job as a comedian is show. us where the runway is and we'll land
Starting point is 00:59:31 the plane. He's like and sometimes the runways here and sometimes it's bigger and sometimes it's smaller but he's like the job is to land the plane on the runway that you're given and what he meant by that was like as society we've all accepted hey that's not we don't do that anymore. He's like and
Starting point is 00:59:47 the job is to go cool I'll be funny around that or whatever and I was like man he's finally getting it and then Chappelle did his thing and now we're here where it's like fuck the runway quite the order that it went in Chappelle did this thing in between those two clips of Seinfeld. And one thing that I think is interesting, and I think I've said this on here before, but maybe not.
Starting point is 01:00:10 People don't remember. Go back and look at how many views, shares, how big of a thing it was when he said, you can't say anything anymore. College campuses, I won't go there. I won't do them. How viral that went. Yeah, versus what I just said. Kevin Hart. versus the other thing
Starting point is 01:00:29 you saw about 5% of an amount of people. So zeitgeist-wise. It never happened. Never happened. Right, yeah. No, that is unfortunate. And we're in like undoubtedly as far as like people getting opportunities and the art form being attempted by more people and seen by more people.
Starting point is 01:00:52 We are undoubtedly in some type of comedy boom. but and I always remember when we were in like a low space in the mid 2000 like god I'm hoping for a boom again and and now that we're here I'm like god damn I wish it was just the mid 2000s again fuck this because the boom is not to what end you know what I mean to what in it's like I think at the end of this it's like comedy's like more popular now it's ever been and it's being bastardized so bad and like I know that we're all individuals but like I'm a little if I don't it's not a is fun for me to tell people I'm a committee. It was never been fun. I don't, but like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I don't wear it as like as much of a badge of honor because now, they used to think you were a loser and now they think you're an asshole. Exactly. And I'd rather be a loser. I'm more comfortable in that spot, you know.
Starting point is 01:01:40 Or it's like, or used to that they would assume like, well, if you're a comedian, you're one of those leftist, whatever. And now they assume you're a Trump part. Especially me and you, the white beards or whatever. When I say I'm a comedian, they're probably like, oh, I bet he goes on Kill Tony and talk shit about trans people. and I hate that that is going on and like I know the only thing me and you can do to combat that is to continue being ourselves on stage
Starting point is 01:02:02 and show an example that you don't have to be but like I don't even watch comedy anymore and I need to I'm a fucking comedian but like I'm just so turned off by even watching good specials I'm just like fuck man can we just give it a rest just give it a rest for a minute let's all go make a fucking movie or something
Starting point is 01:02:22 and go make Schindler's list too. That'd be more hopeful. Yeah. I got a lot of thoughts, but we're out of time. Where are you going to be, buddy? I think that you're just like, I mean, there's a finiteness to comedy, and that's what makes it so beautiful, but it's also very frustrating too.
Starting point is 01:02:40 And maybe you're just, I think maybe two things you're going on at once. Maybe you are just like over that finiteness, over that as a form of entertainment or art, whatever you want to call it, you have to get to a punchline. Like that is a strict, you know what I mean? Yeah. I think maybe you're starting to like personally lose interest in some of that.
Starting point is 01:03:03 And then on a broad sense, you're just over what is now popular comedy. I mean, I think it's very, it's very like pop music. Yeah. Kind of taking over country right now. And you're watching that and you're like, where's my play? Yeah, it sucks. Yeah, no, that's mostly it. And it's like, I've been, I mean, I've been doing it for.
Starting point is 01:03:22 21 years, not the whole time at a great level or whatever, but that's a long time to be doing something. And in those 21 years, boy, has it changed? Like, there's like three sections of my career that all looks so insanely different, not in what I've done, but just how the landscape of comedy was. And like, it's a little depressing. But any fucking ways, we'll talk about that when Trey gets back. Yeah, I'm sure he'll love it. He will love it. Where are you going to be this week, buddy? I will be in one second. I got to let somebody know that I'm running a little late. I will be in Huntsville, Alabama, Friday. This is someone dropped out or something, so I took over a date,
Starting point is 01:03:59 and that always is iffy. I've only been able to put it in the last 10 days. So if you're in Huntsville, come out and see me on Friday at 7. If you're close to Huntsville, just come. I'll take care of your ticket if you live more an hour away. Just write me. There you go. I just, I have over at we love Corey.com.
Starting point is 01:04:19 I've got public domain sleepy time theater. We're reading Mary Shelley's Frankenstein. But I also just started a new series, a little 10-minute historical stories. So far, they've been about presidents, but that's not, I'm not saying that'll be what they are forever. And the series is called four score and seven beers. It's a little loose history, some funny stories. I've got one up right now about Warren G. Harding, having sex in a broom closet, and Andrew Jackson having his parrot kicked out of his funeral for cursing.
Starting point is 01:04:51 So it's a lot of fun. We love Corey.com. And thank you all for listening to The Well Red Show. We love to stick around longer, but we got to go. Listen to gravy baby and listen to Putting On Airs and Weekly Skews. Tune in next week if you got nothing to do. Thank you. God bless you.
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