wellRED podcast - Bankers Are Free at Last!

Episode Date: January 15, 2025

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What's up folks? It's your boy Corey Ryan Forster. I wasn't on the show today for reasons, but I did want to tell you that this weekend I'm going to be in Raleigh, North Carolina at Goodnight's Comedy Club. That's January 16th through the 8th. This weekend, I'm so sorry at short notice, just got the gig. Don't know what to tell you. I know it sucks, but it don't suck if you're able to come.

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They're the hero rednecks. They like cornbread, but sex. They care way too much, but don't give a thud. They're the neighbor rednecks that makes some people upset But they got three big old dicks that you can suck Cho, I don't know if Cho is plugged in the song or not But either way we're just going to start He's not here

He's AWOL today I don't know where he's at I know tomorrow he's driving I think maybe Amber's at work or something So he's alone with the baby or some such thing But anyway He's heading to Riley tomorrow I think. So had to switch some stuff around, but we're both here.

Here we are. How are you doing? Man, I'm good, you know. I'm hanging out. I'm farming a little. And by that I just mean I like feed chickens and take dogs inside and cut firewood. And, you know, I'm just out here living the dream, you know what I mean? We're back in the blue here where I live. We're standing with Israel. We respect the troops. It is a just a cultural phenomenal. phenomenon in a lot of ways how this place is so different and so the same from when you last left it, Trey. I mean, I think I could probably guess, but what do you mean by the different part? I feel like I definitely know. We like Jews now.

So right off the top, we like Jews. Yeah, and cops too, for that matter. It wasn't it the case back. Well, I think that was, wasn't that creeping in when we were younger, do you think? I mean, there's definitely a redneck dudes I went to school with who, like, wanted to be, who, like, worshipped the military and cops and wanted to. have a job where they had a gun and that type of thing, you know, but they still would bitch about the cops in our town at least or, you know, talk about one of them was a dickhead or whatever.

So it was. Oh, we'll still do that here, but only like, like I can't do it to them. Like, I've been complaining about how I'm being profiled because I got California plates because I've been pulled over now like six times. And, you know, most people won't let me get away with that because they know I'm not on their team. Although I did change my plates and I have been pulled over. admit once since then. So it could be me.

I haven't gotten a single ticket. You haven't gotten a single ticket? No. That's why, I mean, I think the first few times we're definitely profiling. There was once where I think I talked about this on here, bus turned. Uh-huh. They, like, pulled out from the school and then turned into, immediately into, or started to turn into a subdivision that's across the street from the school.

But it didn't turn. It stopped and threw that stop sign up. Yeah. But I was already beside it. Anyway, didn't get a ticket that time, but I knew what I did wrong. I was like, I thought they were turning, ma'am. I'm sorry. That was the black cop.

I did tell you all about that. And did you say, ma'am? It's a black woman cop. Black lady cop. And where you are? Yeah. How did that happen? That feels exciting.

I mean, there's something about it related to what you've talked about with Salina, I think last week, where you were talking about one high up trooper put an outpost there. It's not that, but what I'm getting at is, and I've been talking about this on both my podcasts, there's an unexplainable amount of cops here, both sheriff's deputies, city police from Oneida, and then every once in a while of troopers, multiple, because there's two different trooper cars. for population-wise, what has to be on the bottom 10% of the state? Right. There's an unexplainable budgetary issue going on here.

And, you know, because I know stuff, I know that it's nefarious, dirty, or corruption. Is that where the, isn't there like a big prison up there? Like, is that in that county or nearby? There's no prison in this county. There's a federal prison north to here that a lot of my people and your people probably work at. And then Brushy, which is now Morgan County Correctional is where I'm from. You might be thinking of that. That's one county below.

I can't imagine either of those have anything to do with these cops, but maybe. I don't even know how or why it would. It just feels like a, you know, cop adjacent. If he were still alive, I would definitely. surmise or argue that it has something to do with Howard Baker. Howard Baker was something for Reagan. I don't know. I mean, like, hi, like the secretary of something.

I don't remember what anymore. And he's from here and lived here at the end of his life. But he did. He'd been dead. He used to catch him breathing in church because he fell asleep. What's, uh, what's Rosebud's last name? The, you know. Oswald Baker, yeah.

That's that guy? I don't think so. Because her grandpa was high up for, he was a secretary of something under Reagan. I think it was Bush. I think it was Bush for her. I thought it was Reagan and then daddy Bush, I thought. It may be on her mom's side. I don't know that.

But anyway, that's, well, that's a wild coincidence. But yeah, I'd heard about that about her family. And then I thought that's a comedian, everybody that we're talking about, Rosebud Baker. Anyway, I thought if that dude ended up also being from your hometown, that was going to be truly wild to me. It's wild to me that anybody from there did that. that anyway, you know that Cordell,

Cordell Hull, who is the father of the United Nations, so big, big hit around there. He's from Salina, or at least Salina claims him. He worked and had his law office in Salina. He was also a secretary of state under,

I think fucking FDR, you know, one of them hitting ones back then. No, I did not know that. I know about Cordell Hull because of his dam, but I did not know that that was your guy. We got a Cordell here. but all he's famous for is killing coyotes and leaving him on the gates of all these subdivisions that are popping up because they left him out of the deal.

We got a very, very, very red-ass cordel and Salina. I don't know if he's still there. I don't know if he's still alive. He was just there. He's around roughly my age and he was a lot of redneck. Never occurred to me. He might be named after that cordel, but I guess that makes sense. But, yeah, if you go to Slina, we got, there's the Clay County Museum, which is this, like, just tiny little building that's open.

I think four hours a week. It's like on Friday afternoons. It's open for four hours. Whoever's charged with that goes and sits there for four hours instead of sitting at the clerk's office or whatever's going on. I've lived there my whole life. I don't think I ever went there. I don't think they even took the kids there as like a field trip, you know.

But attached to it is Cordell Hull's law office. And I assume they've preserved it or whatever. Again, never been in there. Never took much of an interest. By that you go in there and see, you know, where he used to sit and, you know, fight for people's farms. I don't know what he was doing. Outside of the coyote story.

Prosecute moonshioners, probably. Yeah, probably. Outside of the coyote story, my favorite quarreles, it's not really a story. The story itself, he kind of had to be there, whatever. But the upshot is, and this is so Southern is, in this story about him that my dad was hearing one night, the full explanation for why something totally insane happened was just this redneck going,

well, Cordale? And so now it's like part of my family's lore that if something, it's kind of like Raven with us. Now that I think about it, it's exactly like that. If something happens, we're like, Jesus, that's Raven. Something redneck and crazy having them, and my dad will go, well, Cordale. Yeah, Cordale, what are you going to do?

You remember that? What are you going to do, Cordale? I briefly tried to make that a thing when my friends would do. didn't work because even though they were there that night. Remember years ago we did that comedy show in Solana at the... Yes, I'll never forget. That is a watershed moment in my development as a comedian and human being. There was a lot of things about that night that changed me forever and or validated some

decisions I'd made. Right. So, well, one of the things that happened when we were like getting ready to leave was there, well, I can't, I shouldn't say his full name, but... There's pause for saying. God said that. And I wasn't hitting. It was a bit, but you go, right.

So anyway... Oh, I thought you were serious because I thought of a few things. I mean, I was kind of, but I'm just saying the way that and I went through all that and you're like, right. Anyway, sorry. Which because, you know what I did? I brought it up because I had a thing I wanted to say. So then I just let you finish saying your thing so I could get back to my thing. And I paused to bother you and also comment on how funny that is.

Yeah. So anyway, we'll say that the guy's name was Kenny Lee, but that's not his name at all. Both those names I've changed. But this like redneck dude beat another redneck dude, like, nearly to death right before everybody left, like beat the fucking, like, beat him bad. And everybody was just saying,

he's like, Kenny Lee, that's just what he does, you know. And so I tried to make it a thing to make Kenny Lee like, you know, Chuck Norris or Bill Bratsky type thing after that, you know,

like a hillbilly legend guy or whatever, but I don't think he hit much for most people. So all my friends and stuff were just like, oh, fuck that dips shit. You know, even though I just thought it was funny because I didn't even know him. He was like much younger. Yeah, right, exactly.

But yeah. We talked about it on here before when we try to write characters and based on our friends and all that. Like, there is this strange thing. And I swear I can get up my own ass and relate this to the type of stuff we usually talk about or that our fans maybe want us to talk about. There's this strange phenomenon of, like, entertaining. But if it's your sister, if it's your mama, if it's your neighbor,

it's not. It fucking sucks. But there's this weird phenomenon where that thing that's obvious, you say that everyone goes, yeah, right, obviously.

It's like I've had people in my life where I tell the story and everyone else thinks it's funny, but no, I was there. It actually sucked. Like, I beat the shit out of that dude.

Right. And everyone freaked out. But if you just hear, can you leave, beat the shit out of some boy at a gas station comedy to show. Well, can you leave?

You know, that's like fading, though. Like, I genuinely feel like Trump some entertainers we know where we're like, what the, how is this? There's just like, that gap's fading, man.

People want to be entertained constantly. Right. Is it the internet? I think we're serving it through our phones. Yeah. I mean, I think, I mean, I'm not saying that Trump don't have like something to do with it or whatever. But I definitely feel like it's a internet, social media,

constant dopamine drip, attention span, neutered, just all that shit together is just making people be that way, I think. Everybody wants attention and entertainment all the time or whatever, and it's just, it's wild. Yeah, but it's just wild. And I think Trump's a symptom for the record, less than the cause. But that's wild. Like, oh, that was entertaining. Let's make him president.

It's not that direct. It's not that conscious, but that does feel like a little bit that's what's happened. It certainly happened in comedy, too, of like, this person is very entertaining on social media. And then, like, I've told this story before. I do think Tim Dillon's a good comedian. But I've told this story before where one summer when he was first blown up, I had three people tell me he was their favorite comic.

And I asked all three of them what their favorite joke of his was. Right. And they didn't reference a joke because they didn't really mean that. Now, that's different because Tim's job is too entertaining, whereas a politician's job isn't. But there's this interesting thing about clout and entertainment capability. I mean, dude, I think we're seeing it sometimes in sports. It's supposed to be the most, it's supposed to be like completely objective.

Subjective. Objective. Yeah. But like what if you're on the margins? What have you got two six foot 10 shot blocker space feeler, space filler, excuse me. I tried to correct my own accent. Fucked it up. Space filler, big man, who's just going to back your center up.

And one's going to maybe sell more tickets. Right. Yeah, and that case, yeah, well, that I don't know that that's, I mean, that's just like regular-ass capitalism when you put it that way. When it comes to just like what sells more tickets or sales jerseys and that type of thing. I think they've always considered that shit. Well, like the ownership and front office and stuff will, but, you know, coaches typically want to win. Here's the best example. I can't believe I didn't open with this because I've been thinking on this for a separate thing I've been working on anyway.

All right, you saw Zuckerberg come out with the chain and the broccoli haircut and talk about. how he's getting rid of tampons in the bathrooms and now you can say whatever the fuck you want on Facebook. He's done a complete hill turn because he realizes Facebook's full of old people. Right. That is in a lot of ways copying the Elon Musk Twitter X business model,

which as far as Twitter goes, was a nightmare for their business because people left Twitter in droves. But if Facebook could pull it off, I do think it would help them because Facebook doesn't have the same people to lose. Right. Elon Musk is absolutely a great CEO. If your measure is this dude kept the company going, it didn't fall apart, and his investors, his stockholders got paid.

You would have to say he might be one of the most successful of all time. When you look at these articles that sort of point out that Tesla might be the most overvalued stock ever. that's kind of what I'm getting at. At some point a CEO's job became pay these stockholders, not think about the future of the company, just think about the next quarter. That happened long ago. That hasn't to do what I'm talking about.

But that laid the groundwork for what I'm talking about, which is Elon Musk remains in the algorithm, remains at the forefront, has used fame as a way to do his job without doing all of the things. in my opinion that usually, I mean, when you look at SpaceX, some of the things they've done is impressive, but a lot of ways they've failed, they haven't met any of the things he claimed they're going to do. No, that's a huge thing. Undoubtedly a great company in terms of what they've accomplished.

Now again, he bought it. But overvalued, I would argue, because of the cool factor. This dude is using clout to make his business worth more money. That is kind of incredible when you consider he's not. not in the entertainment business. Yeah, well, you consider that he's doing it. I mean, again, it's also, I mean, I do think that you're right, don't get me wrong, but I also think you say, like, using clout to make his company more valuable or whatever,

but that's kind of what, you know, like branding or whatever has been for a lot of companies for a long time. Do you know what I mean? If you can successfully market a company to, like, rich people or whatever, then that's going to hit harder for you. Or if it can be, if your brand is considered cool for whatever reason and all that shit is just clout, but it's not based on one person. on a social media platform tweeting memes and being an edge lord or whatever that is weird i wonder

if that's part of their quarterly reports or whatever talking about it's like social media output from that i mean probably no that but you you delineated it well it used to be the brand of the company now it was like the fame of the face of the company yeah i'm not saying that's the be all in the end all but the fact that it has an effect on it is crazy the fact that clout I mean, I kind of remember only knowing like three CEOs. Yeah, I do think, I mean, Steve Jobs was like, you know, he was kind of a version of that, but not, he wasn't like willfully obtuse, you know, a shit poster or anything. He was, he was kind of a fraud in that, like, everybody thought he was this, you know,

mad genius or whatever who, and I guess he was in a way, but it may, he always made it seem like he was, in a lab tinkering up iPhones and shit, which he never was doing. But I guess CEOs, none of them ever do that. But anyway, his whole cult of personality absolutely was a huge part of the rise of Apple in the 2000s and everything and them getting to where they are now, just dominance, you know. Yeah. It's a tech thing maybe, you know, just tech in general. Tech needs like an iconoclast at the top or something like that.

I do think that you're spot on. I mean, I can't help but wonder if that was actually true of like Henry Ford. I know. I wondered the same thing. We just had the wool pulled over our eyes. Right. But the thing that's new with Elon, in my opinion, especially with SpaceX, is like, okay, but Ford was, like Ford was him taking credit, maybe. Like, let's say that's what happened.

Maybe Henry Ford wasn't the genius, somebody else was, and then he just made it seem like he was a genius. Sure. But then Ford did do the assembly line and change things. Tesla sort of did that. SpaceX, I don't see it yet. And then Twitter, he bombed the company. Right. And there doesn't seem to be any consequence of that in terms of the market share.

Am I stupid? I mean, if you're stupid, I'm stupid too, because I agree. It seems like it's gotten objectively worse. They've lost a ton of people, a ton of advertisers, all that. It's just like a right-wing echo chamber. But, like, that is useful for him in other ways, but not in terms of the company's bottom line or whatever you would think it would still have a negative impact and I don't know but also like Tesla I don't get how Tesla through his whole hill turn and whatever else because I you know I live in

California you lived here for a long time people all these like you know well-to-do coastal California liberals and stuff out here they all had Teslas and a lot of them still do because they just like are married to it but a lot of them have put bumper stickers on him now that say something like I bought this before I knew what he was like or whatever but people that the people that the people that he now panders to, they think that electric cars are gay and that climate change is fake. And I don't, and then the people he openly antagonizes

all the time, you would think are the target demographic of that. And I know he's got his own cult of people who want a cyber truck just because it's his thing. But I would have thought that would still be a net negative for Tesla, that whole transition. And I don't understand how it hasn't

been, but I don't understand any of that Wall Street Harry Potter shit that goes on, you know. Right. So I'll give you what my theory is on that. I don't know if this is accurate, but it would explain that disconnect, which is he had the coastal California, Tesla explosion. He's in the media. Everyone's saying, you know, these cars are actually great. He's doing new charging stations and he's going to save the planet. This goes back to what I was saying about how a company's goal now is to just keep the stock investors. paid. That was a great company, but it was running out of like newness and shininess. Also, they made those cars well. Their sales were going to dip eventually. Boom, Cybertruck comes out. He does a complete hill turn. Markets that towards douchebags who would like it. Actually, he's a big pro-species to Trump guys, hates trans people and all that. I'm describing a man

who would buy a cyber truck. Cybertruck becomes something that we all talk about all the time. And again, this Wall Street Harry Potter wizardry that we don't understand. it feels to me that like remaining in the algorithm is both genuinely is worth something and then the wizardry recognizes that and is like yep Tesla stock still high when I do think stales have somewhat stagnated and the cyber truck objectively objectively as a product is an abject failure right and smart Mark told me that like that their numbers are plummeting too like cyber trucks specifically, I mean.

Because it's been such a failure. Right. Yeah. So, but it's famous. We're all talking about it. We've got the memes and that seems to matter. And I, that, whatever that wizardry is, I think it does matter. I mean, I think Wall Street is correct to be like, well, that's valuable.

Elon Musk's fame is valuable. Going back to jobs, jobs, you pointed it out, he was a genius, just not the tinkering tech genius, but some kind of marketing genius. Dude, I don't want to shit talk people that I don't really know. but like there's comedians from our class who no one says no one, even their fans, says they're great.

They sell out Madison Square Garden. Right. I mean, you brought that up earlier about Tim, you know, I asked people, what's your favorite bit and they can't name one.

And it's like, I have to be completely honest here. That's probably also true of a lot of my fan base, I would think. I'm probably also one of those people. They might say, like, I love,

Trek, my favorite comedian, but if you guys are like, well, tell me a, bit of his to be like, well, you know, I mean, I've seen him live. It was great, but I can't remember that. But I bet they would name a video that you've either done a version of on stage or that you could classify as a set up punch joke. That might be true of Tim. I think it's probably more of a

podcast thing. And that's fine. I wasn't trying to make a point of shitting on town. Really not. I really not. I'm really enjoyed Tim. I'm saying that like, you're marketing and I mean, it's not an insult. This does apply to you. Your marketing and or face towards social media seems to matter way more than on stage or in the case of Elon Musk, what the fuck your company is actually doing? It's definitely true. I do think that making about comedy specifically, because that's my only personal experience,

I have to make myself believe that if I was terrible on stage, it would eventually, I wouldn't be able to sell tickets and stuff eventually. You know what I mean? And so, like, at first, I mean, yeah, I don't know. I mean, you hear about people that, right, we've both heard about plenty of people that definitely are who that applies to. But I think their numbers at least go down or whatever. I don't know.

But, I mean, I definitely, 100% I was getting people and still do get people in there who are not going because of stand-up reasons. But then I think they get in there and they're like, oh, this is better and I thought it would be. But also you do entertainment. I chose to raise the point of comedy because I'm more familiar with it than any other industry. industry, but it's really not an apples to apples comparison because both of those are entertaining things. With entertainment, where it's like Musk, entertainment, arguably entertainment should have nothing to do with his stock prices. Yeah, and they do. Arguably entertainment should have nothing to do with political votes, but it obviously does. And how that's growing, how much that's increasing.

It's always been there in the background. But what started this conversation for me in my mind and and Kenny Lee is like how that that it's fading like it seems to just be part of everything now. I mean, dude, how many times you had a friend start a business and ask you to put it on your page and, and or they start trying to make funny videos to promote it? And God bless them. And they should. But it's like, Jesus Christ, entertainment is now a part of everything. Everything.

Yeah. I mean, again, you are definitely right about all of that. And it is also, I think, bad largely. but it has also always been true that you need, you know, people have to be aware of you for something. So you have to advertise and market and all that type of shit, you know, but. Right. But law ads used to be, I'm a good attorney. Here's my record.

Here's what I'm going to do for you. And now you're like the TikTok logger. Let me tell you what you can do to get out of a traffic stop. And then your, and your record do a check, Ogle, Elrod and Burrell, Knoxville, Tennessee. They built an empire off of catchy. ads. He told me explicitly, one of the guys, I used to play basketball with him, the dumber we make our ads, the more money we make, so that's why we do it. Right. I think that that type of ambulance chaser thing where they do that, though, I think also predates the internet.

I mean, those kind of commercials were famous in like the 90s. I don't know. I don't know if I think that or not. I think that with the social media, again, there's like, I met a lawyer once who's like a practicing lawyer and he's his firm is huge now or whatever because he got big on tic-tok doing lawyer he's like hey it's the tic-tok lawyer here don't forget to subscribe and all this stuff whatever and he talks about loggership but he is an actual lawyer and has talk about real lawyer shit you know what i mean as far as i know but you know that i'm all dumb i mean i love that he yeah i love that right i love someone who has the ability to entertain and uses that to get their information to you i'm talking about essentially everyone becoming their own

little mini PR firm, it feels like it's rotting us out because we just have a whole swath of people putting their money or support behind the most entertaining candidate, attorney, fucking what, you know, assessor of property. Like there's things where people have to know what the fuck they're doing in order to do the job. That seems to be getting less and less important. Maybe I'm becoming a boom. I bet a lot of rich and powerful people, they don't do that shit still.

Do you know what I mean? I bet they don't make their decisions based on that is what I'm saying. You know what I mean? They got some lawyer you've never heard of who's like absolutely fucking lethal. And those people still do well at behind the scenes, you know, in those world. I bet they make some of their decisions based upon people's reaction to that kind of thing, huh? Where they invest. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah. Like reading the tea leaves of, oh, people want to be entertained more than they actually want good products. I bet they're making decisions based on that. Right, yes, probably. Yeah, I mean, hell, I'd say if they're smart, they are, since that is the way the winds be blowing. But listen, we'll be brought back in just a second. We've got a word from our sponsors here.

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I want to get you going a little bit. This morning, Smart Mark, the aforementioned Smart Mark, sent us a screenshot of an excerpt from an article from the Financial Times. It's just a very small excerpt here. He's highlighting how ridiculous this is. I'm going to quote directly, y'all. I'm quoting a person, quoting this article, so don't get mad at me. It says,

I'm so glad you're bringing this up. It says, quote, I feel liberated, said a top banker. We can say retard and pussy without the fear of getting canceled. It is a new dawn in the financial world. Finance bros are freed, finally, from the shackles of cancel culture and the limiting free speech that we do over here on the left, they can say those words again, and they're liberated now.

So, yeah, what do you think about that? You think that, like, Wall Street Boat Bros were really getting danged hard for saying that stuff in rooms full of just other Wall Street bros or anything? I bet they were still doing coke and whores and all that, and we're saying whatever they wanted to most of the time. Lord of mercy, bankers got their retar back. I don't know. I think that.

that the culture had shifted some, and they had convinced themselves that they could not say those things, and now they have convinced themselves that they can. I think it's possible that they felt like the people under them, dare I say, the words they would use beneath them, had gained some power in the culture of work, and people were a little bit more on eggshells to say some things. I would say this guy was actually less upset that he couldn't say those words

and more upset that he couldn't say, I bet your pussy looks better out of that skirt. I would say that it's all of that cultural change happening to those types of places like Wall Street and these bankers who used to being able to get away with a lot

kind of feeling like. Not actually, but feeling like things are different. And then now with Trump and some other things and Rogan and all that, they feel like they're back. It's all in their fucking head. they're the dumbest people alive.

Unfortunately, they are also the most powerful. I hate to sound like what I am about to sound like because I hate woke skulls. I really do. I get that there's some things we shouldn't do, but I hate when people go looking for that fight to have or just kind of are wagging their finger when people are just genuinely trying to have a good time

or do something among their friends that ain't your business. But this is genuinely right in front of us, anthropologically, social scientists should study it. This is what happens when the powerful group sees a little bit of their power be taken away. They think it's oppression. And they use words like liberated.

This banker, powerful, the article says, has been liberated. We're liberating bankers in this country. Yep. First of all. Got a priority straight. They definitely always. He's done that row right there, like the persecution complex,

especially like some Christians and stuff in this country have. And it's like they think, you tell them like, hey, it's not cool for you to, you know, like discriminate against people because they're gay. You can't take another person's rights away

because of what you believe religiously. That's not how any of that's supposed to work. When you say that, they're like, this is oppression. I'm being silenced. I'm being persecuted. This is not freedom of speech,

freedom of religion, all that stuff. And it's never been true. The difference there with, most of those people, at least the ones you and I grew up around, is that while they have not been actually persecuted at all, and in and among their communities, they represent the government, the school board, the teachers, and every aspect of the culture. Outside of that, when they looked to the entertainment industry, just as an example, or the news, as you know, our people were often

shat upon, and Christian kind of did become a little bit of a punchline. Now, that's not real oppression. I'm not making that argument. I'm saying in this case, this banker had never experienced literally anything not being for him, which I guess could be an argument in terms of how that you process that as a human. If literally you've gotten to do and be whatever you want and it's worked out and you're powerful, I guess someone course correcting you, I mean, when you think about cancel culture from a, I guess, zoom out lens. I mean, a lot of it was regular-ass people

having a voice for the first time. The beginning of it absolutely was people going, hey, we don't like it when you say that word. And a lot of other people going, like me, for example, genuinely going, oh damn, I didn't know that was bothering people. Right.

I didn't know. They didn't have a voice. They weren't represented. So I didn't know that. But you went to, obviously, courts are very different thing than an office. You went to law school and everything. I graduated business school in 2009 before anybody was ever saying the words.

PC had been a thing since the 90s, but nobody was saying cancel culture or nothing. And like mandatory corporate trainings and stuff about like harassment and what you can't say and all that shit was like already massive and everywhere. And because people were getting like sued and stuff. Do you know what I mean? Like companies that had been going on and it wasn't because. of liberals saying like those jokes are dirty or offensive or any of that type of stuff. It was just like a just a pure cultural ship. Your secretary.

Yeah, right. Exactly. And that was, it had already been happening. And for me, like, it was like treated as like this. It's just wild to me. I know that a lot of, a lot of business culture, depending on where you guys, is very, very different than my experience. A lot of it's more like fucking succession or whatever, I guess.

But like, for me, it couldn't have been more buttoned up and not at all. Like it was like very, very police. People didn't say nothing, like even remotely off color or nothing ever, which, you know, that's, that didn't hit by the way. It was boring as shit. But like I just, I don't know. This dude's making it sound like this was invented by, you know, the purple-haired baristas of the, you know, the woke left in the past five, 10 years or whatever. And I know that a lot of those things wouldn't have flown 15 plus years ago, even. either in the business world in most places.

I think people were emboldened. I think people were just emboldened to call them out in the last five years. I think what happened is that guy said it at work and somebody was like, don't fucking do that. And then he was like, oh, I could get in trouble for that. And I think also if you want to empathize, and I don't mean it in the like the sweet way, I just mean like if you want to actually think about how that person sees it,

I would say that person, to him is an extension of what you were. talking about. It was like, all right, look, we had the Me Too. I get it. I can't grab her ass. But now I can't even say words to my friends. And they feel like it's this creeping cultural oppression. But you always

could say words to your friends, though, right? If they really are your friends and they're cool with those words, just go into a break room and say, you know, retard all you want. Just don't do it in front of the fucking, you know, anti that works at the desk or whatever the fuck else. Like, it's not that hard to just, you know,

Yeah, it's insane. It's insane. You got your tech group chats. You got your, you know, corner of the bar or you can just go wild with your boys. Everybody knows. These are the rules and it seems fine to me, you know. Everyone seems to think that they're the president or that they're famous. Corey had a great joke about it. Right. Corey had a great joke about Papaw's talking about cancel culture in their garage. It's like canceled from what? Right. This guy's talking about being fired for breaking an HR rule, I think. He may be. talking about how he felt like in bars after work when he was doing blow in the bathroom, he can say retard and pussy because some smart mouth haughty who they all wanted there because the left girls got the best pussy, that's probably a phrase he would say. He didn't want them mouth and off to him.

And to me it's like, just grow up, bro. Say it. Quit being a pussy and say retard. If that's what you want to do, everyone seems to think that. they were oppressed for doing this and then that they're brave now that they're not abiding by those rules anymore and just neither of those are true it's genuinely insane to a great extent i'm going to be honest i blame dave chappelle uh i also blame rogan i also blame drunk i also blame the internet i also blame right wing media and i blame to a certain

extent, self-righteous people on the left, who we went from, stop saying these gross words and don't be rude to like, you're a horrible person if you don't follow all these rules, even alone among your friends. To me, again, there's some of the blame there. To me, I just feel like, I don't know, I feel like if you're a reasonable person, none of the rules ever needed to change for anybody. And what I mean by that is what I was saying a minute ago, you know, if you have friends are truly your friend. You know what type of person they are. You know what page they're on.

And if you're on the same page and you're just talking to each other, you got a private text conversation or it's just the two of you, you could say it and get away with it and it's fine, but you don't, you know, you don't say that type of shit in mixed company. That's a social rule as old as fucking time. Pappaw's talked about that. You know, it's a little misogynist. But I'm saying it's just been a thing. I don't know why any of it. It don't feel like any of that ever changed. It didn't for me. I know, you know, like the stuff we're comedians. We have a group chat with me, you Mark and Corey. You know, we get pretty wild in there sometimes because we all know where we stand on that stuff and that we're comedian. Comedians, you know, takes a lot to

offend us, yada, yada, we know that it's fine. No one's going to, no one's there to be offended by it. If they were, we wouldn't do it. And it's like, I don't feel like any of that ever had to change and who was really that oppressed by that type of thing other than which this is stupid but like you know if you're a public figure like a you know podcaster or a comment whatever or a stand-up comedian and you tell a joke and then you get a fucking you know things written about you and there's a hashtag get started and then you know you get told you can't say that anymore but it's like you said everybody's acting like they're in that position when like this dude this is just some dude who works at a bank like why wasn't

that old way just good enough for him unless he wanted to, you know, say toots and smack asses and stuff, which most people should still agree, you, it's still not okay, even in a Trump world, or at least it shouldn't be, you know, sexual harassment. Like, so, I don't know. It's either that or like he wanted to be at the bar and not get called out. Like, I had an experience in Austin, Texas, where me and two dudes were talking about a comedy show that we had the night before, and we were talking about what this guy had said, and this other dude was like, I was at that show, I was at the creek in the cave.

I remember when he said that, and he was talking about this couple who's doing crowdwork, you two fucking? Oh man, you ain't giving him no pussy? And that guy who was not a comedian thought it was the funniest thing in the world. And me and the other comic, of course, thought it was lame crowdwork. But we just started discussing it with him. And then this woman who was there too was just like, I'm sorry. What the fuck is wrong with y'all?

And then we apologize And my realization was like, yeah, like we were talking about comedy We were doing the comedy thing You know what I mean? Like I forgot where I was. Kind of like what you were saying. Like there's nothing wrong with me discussing What this comedian did in fact do last night

And I didn't say any words that were slurs It was just that the dude was talking about You're going to give him pussy or not. And y'all were discussing that in an animated fashion, an animated in high volume fashion in a public place and a woman was like, Jesus Christ, take it down a notch. Yes. Do you not see that I'm here?

Do you not care? This is a place that I have a right to be in. Do you not care that this would bother me? I bet that dude would have hated her. Right. And like hates that people are emboldened to say that. Like he's somehow oppressed because he has to look around him and worry about that. I'll acknowledge to him that that is different.

You and I feel that's a bad thing. He feels it's a good thing. But to me, the fact that he shapes that it liberated. That's the word that's doing all the work for me. Right. It's a sickness. I mean, it's genuinely, in my opinion, diseased to be who he is, according to the article, a powerful banker or whatever, and then view the world that way.

Like, I've been liberated. It's insane. It's also sad because it kind of makes me wonder if, in spite of all the things I've railed about, about how the Democrats fucked up, by, you know, not going left enough on certain key issues and not applying to the working class and all that. Maybe a lot of it is just dudes want to be able to say slurs, man. I mean, I think that's been even before,

that's probably what prompted this article to be written in the first place. People have been speculating as much that that was a key. I do, it's definitely a part of it. It's one of those things where it's like, I think for younger people, younger dudes, younger white bros, especially. like that part of it makes them just put off by all other things about it just simply you know what I mean that it's like I don't want to be the you know it's like oh shut up that's gay you can't tell me I can't tell a fucking and then that then that pushes them further down the you know rightly rabbit jokes the fires are raging because the firemen are gay uh Elon's going to help us get out of a jam because the trans people made the government inefficient none of it makes any fucking sense though man No, I know. I know. I put the video I made today was about what the some of the things that people have said about the fires and how it's just like, why does everything have to be some stupid fucking conspiracy? You know what I mean? It's like it's the, it hasn't rained here in eight months. Fires started while a dry hurricane was had. Hurricane. It's like it's not hard to understand what happened. It's very clear what happened. There doesn't need to be any kind of, you know, grand. plot or whatever, but they, everything has to be that way now for these people anyway.

And it's just, it's so exhausting, you know. It's also, it's also arrogant. It's so arrogant that they think they've figured out something no one else has. Right. And it's sad to me because the conspiracy is right there in front of you. It's got all the players you want. It's juicy, but it's not like, it's not on the cutting edge. It's not underground.

It's, you know what I mean? It's not good enough for them to just be like, yo, climate change has been perpetrated largely by about four industries that have genuinely lobbied to prevent us from doing anything about it and lied to us and created literal propaganda to make people convinced it's not real. On top of that, our local officials have failed us by putting profits over people over and over again and allowing business in the government to the point that they've gut our firemen. our fire departments and don't let them do their burns because they don't have enough people to get them done because they wanted to give another kickback to one of their donors. The conspiracies, right, fucking there. I've been saying it forever. Bill Gates.

Bill Gates wants to microchip me so that I'll be gay. That's juicy. I get it. It's fun. Bill Gates literally uses his nonprofit and giving out malaria medication as leverage. over African countries so he can continue to employ children

in mineral mines to make his fucking processors but that's not good enough for them they're not the victim of that someone else is. I have to be the victim so the only way to make me the victim of it is to say

he's going to microchip me and make my kick. Yeah, I was going to say it's not just, it's not good enough for them. It's like, no, I mean, that hits for them.

You know what I mean? Like, that's like gangster shit. Like they look up to that type of thing. they want to be able to do that type of thing they think that shit is cool because it doesn't you know it doesn't hurt them like you said and then so yeah um i know but it still people have had that kind of mentality for a long time i feel like but it wasn't i feel like man q anonanon during the trump era and covid that whole maelstrom uh has really contributed to just how fucking stupid everything is because i feel like it really ratcheted up the conspiracy part of the everything. Like, it was Maga and Trump and all that before, but then with, like I said, QAnon and COVID in that, it just now, it's like how it became, if you were a Christian, you had to vote Republican, it was automatic. It's like now if you're, you know, if you're on the right, you have to believe in all this same insane bullshit all the time,

no matter what the evidence is to the contrary. And if you're insane and a little alternative, apparently you now have to vote right. And that's crazy. Dude, I got plenty of, like, guys I play basketball with and stuff, follow them on social media. They're like hippie-dippy surfer types who like believe in crystals and shit. And dog, let me tell you something. They are absolutely convinced that their house got burned down or their neighbors did because of some kind of like Gavin Newsom plot with people out there. Whitney Cummins talking about, you know, some dude started this fire.

Because that apparently is more fun to believe than just like the last 70 years of the West have just been a full-on assault of everything that is good by people who are trying to extract capital in any way they can out of our fucking culture. And in the process of doing that, they're setting the planet on fire quite literally. But even if anyone who lived out here that says it helps parrot any of that shit is such a dip shit and an asshole to me because it's like I was here.

Those winds were insane. Even if some person did set the fire, which they didn't. But even if they did, it's still climate change. just thought that it went the way it did because they only got as bad as they did because of the insane winds which aren't supposed to be happening like this right now or whatever so it's like either way or NATO either way the real problem is that we're killing the fucking planet because of our

you know endless greed and you know so i just don't it just i don't know it drives me crazy but anyway in their defense everyone who ran on that kind of thing failed one way or the other either because they were like a liar or they didn't get it done. You know, they had integrity, but they didn't get it done. So it seems to them like bullshit. Yeah. All right. Well, we got to wrap it up. You got to get out of here. I'll tell you all. I'm in this weekend. I'm in Spokane, Washington with the very funny Caleb Signing. We'll be with me. Come see us at the comedy club there. Love that room. Then coming up, I got Salt Lake City and then Santa Barbara. A lot of other places in their future. Go to traycrouter.com and

come see me. We've got going on Drew. I will be NetFix is a joke audition on Thursday. What is that? The 23rd at Zanis, Nashville. And then I will be part of the Honest Fox Comedy Festival. We're taping it the 25th Friday in Marietta, Georgia, close-ish to Atlanta. I do think I have some other shows coming up. But right now, those are the main ones I'm focused on.

So coming out and see me, Nashville, it's 10 o'clock at the lab on Thursday. Let's have a late night. come on. I really hope some of y'all come out. We will sell out one way or the other, but I'm hoping to have some friendly faces in the crowd who get my vibe. Because I tell you what, if it's a bunch of bacheloretts and bachelor parties from Iowa, there's a decent chance they're not going to like your boy. All right.

Well, that'll do it for us. Corey's in Raleigh this weekend. He had the last minute shows pop up at Good Night. So if you're in Rale, go see Corey too. All right. We'll be back next week. Thank you all for listening to the Well Red show. We love to stick around.

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