wellRED podcast - BUBBA SHOT: "Did I Shave My Legs For This?"

Episode Date: April 1, 2022

Deana Carter came out in 1997 throwing nothing but heaters - number one hits, the legendary "Strawberry Wine" (which we've covered), and many staples on country radio. But the title track from her debut "Did I Shave My Legs For This?" is what solidified her as a forerunner of the "girl power" movement's foray into Country Music. What better way to wrap up women's history month than with the incomparable country hit that asks the ever present question for most straight women: men - why even bother?We are joined today by musician (and coincidentally wife of Drew) Lucy Lightning. A clip of her single, dropping April 22, plays at the end. Follow Lucy on instagram and YouTube!

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They're the... Bubba shot the podcast, and that's right. A show about country. Welcome to Bubba shot the podcast. First, the facts. And the first fact is that I am sitting with the hottest woman in rock and roll, Lucy. Lightning, aka Andy.

Hello. Hey, baby, what's going on? Hey, not much. Did you shave your legs for this podcast? No. I got hairy legs right now, actually. He's gross. It's actually never really bothered me except when it's stubble.

Like long, it's fine. That's soft and furry. A little doll. Yes. Stubbles like a cactus. I know what you mean. When you shave your beard, I hate it because it hurts. My face.

It hurts your heart because of how ugly I am underneath. No. I think we'll get into it later with the boys. Cletus T. Judd had a, did I shave my back for this? Yeah, I remember that. Well, before we get in the song, I want to do a little pre-interview with you. First of all, let's get some of your plugs out of the way. Okay.

As a musician, you are Lucy Lightning. Mm-hmm. And that's, is that the moniker on, like, Instagram? all the places you want people to find you yeah lucy lightning music um on instagram that's all i'm on right now that's all you need yeah well you need a youtube once you start oh i do have a youtube actually so if you go i have uh on my uh website lucy lightning music dot com there's like a link to my youtube cool and we will put a piece of your song at the end with your permission of today's episode uh you're single which will be out in april yeah on earth day

Uh-huh. Oh, nice. But enough about Lucy Ligning. This is about, is it Dina or Deanna Carter? I mean, it's spelled Diana, but I think everybody says Dina. I think so, too. That's a very southern thing. But it could just be because we're in the South and people don't be pronouncing extra. But if you're famous, somebody corrects it, though. That's true.

That's been happening her whole life. Like, it might have been Deanna, but if the change happened, Dina, it happened when she was six. And everybody was like, that's fine. Yeah. It'd be funny if like her parents named her Deanna and everybody just kept saying Dita and they're like, ah, fuck it. Well, I'm certain we're going to get back into that with T-R-A-E Crowder. So what I wanted to get into do with you before I brought the boys on because they're going to talk over me and you, you especially. Yeah, I know.

I wanted to ask if you can remember, you were 11 when it came out? Yeah. What was it? What was it? I mean, were you shaving your legs at 11? No, but it was definitely... Did you want to? It was probably starting to become a thought at that point in my life.

Our niece, Maddox is nine and shapes her leg. I mean, kids are exposed to stuff like that earlier because of TikTok and the internet. We didn't see it as... But you shot in this song, I mean, this song was a hit. Yeah. Were you a fan? Yeah, I love Didina Carter. Yeah, strawberry wine.

Yeah. All that. I just thought it was funny. Right. You know? It was a funny song. I don't think I saw myself in her shoes because I was 11. I didn't.

I wasn't like, I didn't shave my legs for a guy. I think it was just like, this is funny. Look at her. She was like my mom or whatever. It wasn't like strawberry wine, which was biographical for you. If you don't know, go check out the strawberry wine episode. Andy and Dina Carter apparently lived the same life. but instead of strawberry wine, it was Molly.

Strawberry Molly. Strawberry Molly. That should be your DJ name. Strawberry Molly. Strawberry Molly, that is a good DJ now. What I want to know, though, if you can remember, you're in 11 years old. Is that sixth grade? That's sixth grade.

Yeah. I mean, were the girls jamming out to, did I shave my legs for this? You know, was it already happened? Or do you think that was more of the high school thing? I guess they were. I mean, honestly, in middle school, all I really remember everybody being into is boy bands. But we also liked country, like pop country. I loved Reba and listened to a lot of pop country.

But I remember talking to other kids about Backtree Boys and Incink and Spice Girls. So glad I had you on in a pre-interview to talk about this song. No, I love this song. Well, I guess I just made discussions because strawberry wine. you had so many thoughts on. Well, I just don't remember talking to other kids about it. Of course, yeah, that makes sense. I think it was like, it was an adult song to us.

Yeah. So kids weren't talking about shaving their legs at 11. I mean, not. Not that I, I mean, I wasn't. I was slightly older. And I guess I was 13 when it came out going on 14. And I don't remember my freshman year, the cheerleaders. like on the high school team

because I hung out with older girls because I was fucking cool fucking real cool and went to a really small town yeah there was like 40 of you yeah exactly and I was in the top eight like my space

I remember the cheerleaders being like very into it there's definitely a point and men boys do this too boys probably do it earlier where young people will pretend to who identify with an adult song before they do.

Yeah. And I definitely remember the high school girls, you know, did I shave my legs for this? It was like a female empowerment song. It was kind of a fucking song to all the men out there who were bullshit. Definitely. And that's totally fair. But it's hilarious when a 14 year old's like, and I'm sick of these men, not doing the dishes. I think it probably hit more for us that it was that for our moms.

Like I think our moms all got really into that. song because to them that was a female empowerment song also the music video I'm sure we'll get into this but like music video

and the song is just like plays into the stereotype of like deadbeat husband deadbeat man and then the wife who's like stuck at home cleaning and taking care of kids

yeah I think it was scary frankly for some kids to see their mom get so excited about a song right this I was like damn because she leaves at the end.

Yeah. Wait, she leaves at the end? Doesn't she say as I turn and go out of the door? We'll get in the lyrics. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I can imagine some anxious children. Not me, of course.

I was cool. Yeah, you weren't anxious at all. I was fucking cool. You weren't anxious. Don't even know her. What? I don't know. You're trying to do the angsture,

don't even know her yet? Yeah. This is the best episode ever. We are going to have the guys on in a few minutes. We appreciate you being here. Like I said, I want to get your plugs in and all that. And I want to have a chance to interview you one-on-one about Dina Carter because, you know, I feel like from strawberry wine to hear. You're our Dina Carter correspondent.

Yeah. Yeah. This is the Bubba shot the podcast, Dina Carter correspondent, Lucy Lightman. what's dina up to these days what do you think uh she is sleeping on the most expensive mattress in a house of her choosing and you know living her best life that was such an andy way to imagine how rich people's lives are the first thing andy's going to do if she ever gets big is buy a new mattress what do you think rich people are up to just fucking sleeping, just getting asleep.

By the way, what time did you get up today, Andy? Nine. And you had to work. Time you get up yesterday. I don't know. I'm just saying you sleep as much as you want, but it's hilarious to get rich people, though. But have you ever slept on a $10,000 mattress? I haven't.

Is that a real thing? Probably, of course it is. Yeah, it's like heat. What am I trying to say? It's climate control, but without you to have a lot. going to do it. It's like all organic and probably has a fragrance in it. You could probably click a button and it's aromatherapy. You're so pure from what you imagine it is that luxury is and being rich could mean for your life. When you leave me and say, did I shave my legs for this

because you've got a million dollars, I don't have to worry about you like breaking my heart, posting pictures of you party and in Belize with hot models. So I'm just going to be like, I know what she's doing. She took all her money and she's sleeping. She's got eucalyptus being spritzed over her in the middle of the night. I'd sleep around the world. Did you ever say she was going to sleep around? Beds around the world.

That's so funny to think about going on a world tour, just taking naps. Yeah, that would rule. Taking naps in different parts of the world. Vacation naps are the best. I might name my summer tour that. Naps around America. Yeah, that's a good name. You heard it here first.

Don't have that, but I'm touring with DJ this summer. I mean, DJ likes naps. I don't think he does. He napped at night. Like he'll lay down about midnight, wake up at 4. But that's what I'm saying, buddy. Well, they should be here now, so I don't know why they're not. I would say we'll pause right here and go to a break,

but we don't have commercials. We don't have sponsors for Bublish out the podcast. If you want to sponsor, Bublish out the podcast, you can hit us up. on Twitter or Instagram. And we're looking for sponsors. Now, we want these sponsors to be brand adjacent. You know what I mean? We're not going to be, we want to be sponsored by like Irish Spring Soap.

I feel like 90s country and Irish Spring So. Remember those commercials? They go together. Are they still around? They're still around. Spring and Corey is the only one here on time. Hey, buddy. Irish Spring Soap is very much still around, my friends.

And I would have to agree with you that that in 90s country go hand in hand. And they got just the green, the green and the white speckled bar soap. And there was one that was blue and white that my granny always used. And that was very much a 90s staple. So I agree with you. Iris Springs holler at us. Yeah, Iris Springs holler at us. Trey and Tushar are late.

But we're already according to. So I decided to bring you on, buddy. I'm not going to deliver the facts until we get everybody here. But Andy, I'm going to be honest. I made some assumptions about my wife based upon her personality and her. her love of Dina Carter's hit strawberry wine, which, as you recall, Andy had a lot to say about. Yes. After y'all screamed me down the stairs.

Mouthy gal that one. Uh-huh. Well, guess what, Cho? I had her on today for a pre-interview about this song, and she had nothing to say about it. That's not true. I said plenty. She did say plenty. I guarantee, I know that's right.

I made the silly assumption, and this is what I wanted to open up to you, that, like, at 11, and she was like pretending to identify with the song. And I think that comes later, because I definitely remember high school girls, the cheerleaders, pretending that they really identified with this song about a man who was full of shit. Right. But it's like you're 14.

Who forgot to do the dishes at your house and made you mad? You know what I mean? And also at the young girls in those age, like what guy is not, a boy back then could still get drunk, but also get down to business too. Like we were always, you know, ready to go. in that regard. I don't think 18-year-old me would ever let somebody like Dana Carter

waiting. You know what I mean? Yeah, that's certainly true. I'd kick them fuckers off the couch. I promise you that. The teenage girls were mad at their dads because their mom was mad at their dads. Right. They were just falling that lead. Like a worthless man on the couch. Oh, here we go. Now we're getting some heat. It turns out I couldn't get her fired up earlier because y'all weren't in here.

Well, here we go. And then I popped in and she remembered how much she hate meant. Yeah, that's quite literally what happened. Welcome to Bubba Shot the podcast. First of the Facts. Did I Shave My Legs for This is a song co-written and recorded by Dina Carter. It was released in November of 97. It was the sixth single, which is interesting, off an album called Did I Shave My Legs for this?

It went to number 25 on the Billboard Country and Singles chart. Does that right off the bat surprise you? guys. No, but only because I've been thinking about it. And I remember when I first listened to this song back for this episode, I obviously loved the song, but the first thing I thought of is, you know, this should have been more of an anthem than it turned out to be. Like, I don't really hear this song a lot anymore. Do you know what I'm saying? I thought that, I think I said, this when we covered strawberry wine, but I remember my mama had this cassette tape. did I shave my leg for this and absolutely wore it out in the car all the time.

And it's super hip for me too. But in my head, this was the title track from the album and not like, I didn't even realize this had been a single or anything, honestly. I knew that people like remembered it, but I thought it was more for being the title track off that album that had all these other hits on it and stuff and was, you know, big at the time. I didn't. Right.

She certainly had huge hits at the time. Strawberry Wine was the number one. when I first read that earlier I was thinking, well, this is a song for women. You know, it's very geared toward women. 97. You still had peola.

Billboard counts, spins on radio. Maybe they weren't playing it because they were like, fuck this, you know, because it's about those fat fuck DJs. You know what I mean? It was a, I mean, I probably did it six because it was too feminist

for 90s country. They were like, we got to really ease it into this one. Maybe even by the men are talking. But, um, it definitely is one of those but what I was going to say is

I can't say that they did that the Dina Carter because the other songs they did make you know they did play on the radio but maybe that's why the other songs weren't as feminist they were about statutory rape we won't get into it

well it's very telling like to me this is one of those songs where if as a guy this song rubs you the wrong way it can only mean one thing and it's because like I don't I hear this song and I go that's not me so therefore the song's not about me like i hell i take care of my wife i cook i do so clearly it's not about me but those sorry motherfuckers do exist but if you hear this

it's not about him it's not about him all right it's not about him guys see that's what i'm saying too sharp what's up buddy do you remember this song at all was it i do not at all pretty great i love it i mean i i really do it's great it's great it's there's so many reasons where like it almost is like a prequel to the guy like she's leaving the guy she leaves the guy because he's a piece of shit and then he's like man i miss her so much what did i do like it's like he's so oblivious to it and she's just pointing out what she's feeling and she's are you saying that this is why amy's back in austin yeah exactly is this earl in the song different He could be, though.

Maybe it's Bubba. Yeah, I think he's more Bubba than Earl, because Earl had to die. Bubba just was sad. Bubba was sad, yeah. I don't think this particular gentleman, just for being fat on the couch and drinking beer, deserves death. Well, he wasn't fat, though, in the video. No, the guy wasn't. One of his buddies was, yeah.

Yeah. No, that's right. Yeah, I was singing the buddy. Well, let's get into some lyrics, shall we, gentlemen? Oh, that's not the lyrics, is it? what did I do with them? I closed out the wrong tab earlier. The other thing I liked about it was when

it's just like, it's like it has the cadence of a slow song. A slow dance song, but clearly it's a solo, like she's dancing alone. I think that explains the chart placement. Like if this song had to been one tempo higher, it would be more of an anthem,

you know, because it would have been like, yeah, fuck me in, but it kind of seems like something to dance to. Like slow. I agree with that. and I was going to kind of get into it when we get to the songwriter.

So let me do some lyrics and then we'll talk about that in just a second. Flowers and wine is what I thought I would find when I came home from working tonight. Well, now here I stand over this frying pan and you want a cold one again. I bought these new heels, did my nails, had my hair done just right. I thought this new dress was usher bet for romance tonight. Well, it's perfectly clear between the TV and beer. I won't get so much as a kiss. And as I head for the door, I turn around to be sure,

did I shave my legs for this? I turn around to be sure. Sure, you're right. It rhymes better. Rhymes a door. Right off the bat, we've got a good story. I mean, I have to give the song from the perspective of that. We've set up what's happening.

I know what's going down. I know who he is. I've met him before. And I've got a pretty good idea of where it's going for her. I mean, you've met this guy before? I mean, you know, I've been this dude. I bet, yeah. Trust me.

Last week. I'm not always this dude, but I've absolutely been this dude. Me and all my best friends have. Altogether at the same time. On numerous occasions. Yeah. Like Captain Planet, bag of shits,

our powers combine. Alback shooting beer cans with fucking pistols while the children huddle in fear inside with, you know, all the wives at Thompson's house. No thought at all that it was pussy to be got anywhere. Why is our expectations so high?

See, I wanted to get into that too because I do this, me and my therapist have been talking, and I do this to me and my therapist have been talking, and I do this to my wife sometimes where all day I have this specific night in my mind that how things are going to go. And then Amber was feeling a different way. And it's not her fault that she wasn't in the same zone as me. You know what I'm saying? Maybe this guy had a bad day and this is what he's, you know, that's how he's feeling. And it's damn sure if Amber's not in the mood,

I'm not allowed to go write a song about that. You know what I mean? She's just allowed not to want to do it. Yeah, it's hard. Hard man, man. Yeah. Well, maybe he's got one day. you know, in the game zone. And that's it. And then she chooses that day to make a big fuss about it. This is an isolated incident, man. Yeah, we don't know the rest of their relationship. Of course not.

This is such a fun experience for the listeners right now because I quite literally predicted this. You know more than 18 minutes ago. On that note, though, you guys are taking a reading. Let's discuss it for a second, that this is all about, I guess the word romance. She has shaved her legs and gotten dressed up for set. You have alluded Trey or Corey to it a couple times.

I'm going to take the thought that it's really about going out and having a nice romantic time, which may end in sex, which is why you shaved the leg. And she expected flowers. So it seems like there was a special occasion. Right. If she's expecting them. That's fair.

We really drop the fucking ball here. That's fair. you again. But I do want to say that's an interesting point, but it goes back to Corey's. One of you's right. What I mean is either this is a special occasion and she's expecting flowers because it's a special occasion and he has fucked up. Or

Corey's point stands, why do you expect flowers if it's just a fucking random Saturday? Is that your expectation flow? I'm sorry. I'm like 12 kids in the video. I'm with you. I'm with you though Andy like the line I expected flowers does sort of lend itself to like this was Valentine's day or it was my birthday or I had just got a new promotion or something so I'm gonna say anniversary yeah and I think that's what the read is but I could see it another way to Char Trey what are your thoughts um I mean yeah you know we were just yeah we were hit bullshitting around a minute ago clearly there's some some kind of context for it. Yeah, I don't know what. Maybe. Like, I mean, why would literally why would you expect to show up at home to flowers and wine if it's just Tuesday? Like unless there had to be some kind of, it's either a day he forgot about, you know, anniversary or something. Or like they had talked about it. Then he forgot about that. It's got to be something. It's like standing date night. He avoided it. You know, it can't just be a regular day, I don't think.

Tushar, our perpetual bachelor friend. What do you think about this relationship? When I, the first half of the song, I was like, this is something that wasn't special, but she just expected this. It wasn't a special day. She's just like,

oh, this guy get off the fucking couch for once. And she's giving signals to be like, I did all this shit. I saved my legs. I'm, and you expect me to just be this version of a woman while you just fuck around on the couch and not care. So I didn't personally think it was like a special night, especially when later in the lyrics when she's like, now you want me to go back to school. So this is like an ongoing thing that's been happening. And it's almost like, it's almost like she has brought this up

several times. I'd say. And he is just ignoring it all the time. And this is her final straw. Yeah, she brought it up before. I guarantee that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're, you're, Suffering in silence, not a thing my wife does. Your reading too sharp is, and I agree with you, this is obviously not just one night, it's a metaphor. It's like, did I shave my legs for this night we're having? And in general, did I ever shave my legs for you? Like, why did I ever do that in the first fucking place?

And also, she's obviously ovulating. Yeah, I think it's clear. So this is maybe one seven days a month. she just goes through this thing. It's so funny that two sharks clearly never lived with a woman. That's when they're the nicest to you, buddy. Right. You got completely back for Tommy.

All right. I'm learning. I'm learning. All right. Let's talk a little bit about the co-writer and the background with her before we finish these lyrics. And then we'll talk about the music video. It was co-written by a woman named Rhonda Hart. Yes.

Rhonda Hart. Perfect. Yeah, I don't know if that's her real name or stage name, but she was in an all-girls group called Angels on the Range, which was a country music girl group with Rhonda Hart, Dina Carter, and someone named Mila Mason. And everyone, you know, sort of says that they were put together by the studios. They're a precursor to the Dixie Chicks, kind of at the same time-ish.

In other words, a lot of the institutions in Nashville sort of recognize that something like the Dixie Chicks could pop. because of the Spice Girls and the like. The Dixie Chicks did pop. This particular group didn't. Rhonda, though, did have a solo career after the group split up. It wasn't obviously as good as Dina's because we haven't heard of her. She had a hit called Waiting for the Phone to Ring that was huge in the UK for whatever reason.

And when she got back from touring in the UK, she went to the workshop with Dina and they penned this song. This is, as best I can tell, other than the UK hit, her only hit. I listen to some of her music. It's great. But what you were talking about, I think Corey earlier, maybe Trey,

the tempo, she's not as poppy. Like when I listen to her music, this could have been a banger because it's a banger in theme and it is a great song, but it's not a banger in music. You know what I mean?

I think that's what you were getting at earlier. Yeah, it's not the one, like it's, lyrically, it's definitely, an anthem for women to unite and go, we have this common interest and it's that we all have a bag of shit man that does this from time to time. But this song's not going to come on and they're all going to, you know, pick up their shoes and run to the dance floor like they would during

Shania Twain, you know, any man or mine or whatever. I think the tempo is probably very purposeful, a purposeful choice because it does kind of like, it kind of like hangs and just like draws out. You know, it's like, I love it. the message of the story of like this motherfucker hangs around and every day it's the same it kind of just feels like it's you know what I mean oh I love it I wasn't arguing that it should be different I was just arguing that like I think that definitely changes how it's received they had to keep it slow enough that it could still potentially be a wedding dance song yeah right I think it's it's super uh like old fashioned and my the music I mean like this is

It sounds like an old country song to me. That's interesting. You said that because she grew up in my country. Like tearing my berry type shit, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Just the story and the lyrics, you know, obviously different perspective and modernized. But musically, it sounds like one of them old songs to me, which I'm sure I was definitely on purpose. Well, I also think she grew up in a country family.

She's been like Rhonda did. She'd been playing music her whole life. I'm assuming I'm kind of giving her all the credit for the. music, but I think I'm doing that fairly based upon what I listen to, giving her credit for the melody, I mean. But she grew up in a country music family back in the day, you know, in the 70s and 80s, so I think you're completely right, right? It's very much like if Loretta wrote a 90s pop country song.

Nice. Who to reference? Too sharp. It almost reads like a diary entry, which is what's so alluring about it. It's so personal. It's like she's talking to herself. Right. And on the note of the tempo and it coming out of the gate and only going 25 on the billboard,

that might partially be because, I mean, this was the sixth single, and Thena had just been spitting out hit after hit after hit. There might have been a saturation issue. But as far as longevity, you know, you want to talk about hitting one good lick. This song has gone, I want to make sure I say it right, quadruple platinum. It received a Grammy nomination for Song of the Year in 98 because it came out way late in 97. So other than Strawberry Wine, I think it's a Grammy Wine, I think it's a Grammy. it ended up being the second biggest hit in time, just not in that first release point, you know.

I don't know how that works outside of like... I think sales versus radio plays. So the first week you go out on radio, and the billboards like tracking you, I think it has to do with radio plays and sales. But then what the people were back then. What? You know, like what were sales back then on one? song. I know they had singles you could buy, but does that mean literally four million singles of this song? Because back, it was physical copies. We're talking about a CD that

has one song on it of this song. Four million of those were sold is what that means. Yeah, I'm not educated enough to answer that. There were single cassettes. I mean, maybe every song gets counted on the album, so it's like picking up steam that way. But I know that this woman's career, you know what i mean and i'm and i'm more talking about longevity too i don't know how all that works i guess what i'm arguing though is that this song had more staying power than every other hit on the album other than strawberry wine dana really she really made a lot of money on this album yeah there ain't no doubt this is back before it all you know fell apart in so much as it did

they're you know they're still fine musicians at that level but this was pre napster so You got a big album like this one was she had to make a shit load of money. Here are the other singles. We danced anyway. Great. Slaps. I love it. Count me in.

I don't know that one. I don't remember. How do I get there? Number one. That's a jam too. But I would, for me, the second most famous one is, did I say my legs for this? I'd say we danced anyway. To me, to me, the top two Dana Carter.

songs are strawberry wine number one then a gap then we danced anyway and then the rest of her au revoir i hear we danced anyway a lot more than i hear this song if that means anything i now i don't i believe you guys but i definitely for me it feels like did i shave my legs for this is more ubiquitous now and throughout my like college years than we dance anyway strawberry wine undeniably it's way up here and then we got a gap i've heard we danced anyways on like shows and shit. You know what I mean? Yeah.

It's more like commercially. Right. It's a great calm, but yeah, it's more whatever accessible. What do you think? Who's white? Who's white? Who's white about this? Top right.

Corner gets the square. Top right. So top white. Okay. Let's talk about this video. It basically just follows what's happening in the song with two key variations. One is the friends, which we've already mentioned.

I don't think that's a huge deal. You're not changing the story that much. You're just telling a little bit more of it. You know, he acts this way, and he acts this way all the time, and his friends come over, you know. The other one is the kids. There's no mention of children in the song, and as we get into the second verse,

and she leaves pretty flippantly, I think that was someone, director, someone at the agency, somebody saying, let's expand the meaning of this a little bit. Let's make it also apply to house moms, not just housewives. Yeah. Yeah, well, also, I feel like they were like, okay, here's what we're going to do. We're going to rent out a trailer for the day, right? And we're going to cast a piece of shit husband and a piece of shit friends. We're going to film inside that trailer all day.

And at some point, they were like, oh, shit, we got to get some dirty kids in here. This ain't going to make no sense to nobody if there ain't a bunch of fucking untended two kids running around. It's just not. It doesn't ring true. Well, they also in the lyrics, doesn't it say this trailer is wet? Yeah, that's a joke. I kind of feel like that incinuates kids.

Oh, I thought that was a joke. All right, let's do the lyrics then. Let's get right into it. I thought something different, but you might be right. I thought that's just what Mammals said when they heard Conway Twitty. I'll tell you what, this. trailer is wet boy now when we first met you promised we get a house on the hill with a pool well this trailer stays wet and we're swimming in debt now you want me to go back to school

i'll pause there before we finish them so we can discuss it i thought that that was just a joke reverence in the pool because it's swimming in debt is a joke it's like do we have a pool you promised me a pool. No, but we got a wet fucking trailer swimming in debt, but... Yeah, and I thought, and I also, I interpreted it as like, like it leaks and shit. Leaky roof. Because it's shitty and he don't fix nothing. The plumbing's fucked up.

It's like, the roof leaks, you know, ain't got no pool, but just trailers wet because you don't do shit about it. That makes sense. It could also just be these kids pissing everywhere, and you know, they're changing their diapers, you piece of shit. I mean, that's a whole other level of sorry right there. That's

like somebody called the authorities. This infers, by the way, that they own the trailer. So that's good. That's pretty good. Well, no, they don't. They're swimming in debt. They, the bank.

Yeah, maybe from buying a trailer. Yeah, but I'm saying if like, if he's the one that's supposed to fix all these things, they don't have a landlord. Yeah, they got a mortgage. Yeah. Yeah, right. So, I mean, that's something. I didn't know.

I found the, uh, the, now you want me to go back to school, like, the only thing out of place here because he's, it seems like because it implies that these people would have gone to school the first time right like what does she mean middle school like yeah well too charr uh when you don't come from a family who owns a mustard farm um what happens a lot is people start community college and they get one year done but they don't finish it or they get the most basic nursing degree but they didn't get the one that makes the more money. That's what I always thought.

They get their associates. I mean, to be fair, that was a phrase that I heard all the time. Go back to school. Like, I'm going to go back to school. Yeah, get out of school. Mostly, mostly no, but, you know, that didn't happen. But it did get said a lot. My mama said that countless times over the years.

Ain't been near a school. And if she did, she was in blackface dressed like had your mama. That's true. me up from kindergarten. Boy, out of context, that's going to be something for the listeners. I'm going to, well, I talked about it in Knoxville. Some of the people were there, they might remember, yeah, but we ain't got to get into it all right now.

But if you come see us live, go to well-readcom, you'll probably hear me talk about the time. My mom picked me up for kindergarten and blackface, which is true. Anyway, moving on. Yeah. Did I paint my face for this? Too sure, I feel like, it's like he's still going to expect her to do all this woman shit that he expects her to do now. But also he's been saying, you're going to have to go back to school so you can get a job and start paying for some shit too.

Well, it doesn't seem like he works. Because in the beginning of the story, she's like, I came home from work. And he's already hit. Oh. The stuff to be done. He might work thirds. So, all right. I mean, you're right about that.

Well, what's the, so the school thing is just, you need an even better job. Just get out of here. I'm trying to hit it. Go to your home. Maybe this is Earl. I do agree. Like, the video does take a lot of, like, because I think this could be a really dark video. If it's just him on the couch.

in the thing, drinking the thing, smoking a cigarette. There's no kids. There's no buddies. Slapping the kids around. Yeah. And she's just coming back from work being like, what about me? Like the context of the video, it kind of had to be there. So I found that kind of interesting.

I thought the video was great, too. It's like. Yeah, I like the video a lot. I tried to find who directed it, and they just don't be telling that. We couldn't find it. Yeah, I enjoyed it. Let's finish these lyrics out. How about that?

I'm going to go back to where we wear because it's a full verse. Now, when we first met, you promised we get a house on the hill with a pool. Well, this trailer stays wet, and we're swimming in debt. Now you want me to go back to school. I bought these new heels, did my nails, had my hair done just right. I thought this new dress was a sure bet for romance tonight. Well, it's perfectly clear between the TV and beer. I won't get so much as a kiss.

As I head for the door, I turn around to be sure, did I shave my legs for this? Darling, did I shave my legs for this? Oof. I feel like this song was written by Big Razor. I know I use this phrase a lot, but this poor lady just wants to get choke slammed. And it's sad that she's in heat, and this guy is just done with it. She's in heat. But yeah.

The feral trailer woman. Well, he's really fucking up. It's Dana Carter. She's hot. Yeah. Yeah. You know, that part,

you know, that's a little bit of a suspension of disbelief going on there. I feel like, that's what Corey was saying when I first got out of here, wasn't it? We were talking about it wouldn't leave a woman like that waiting or something. Yeah, well,

we were talking about, though, in like Andy was talking about like younger girls in high school identifying with this song and I was like yeah that's stupid though because like no 18 to 20 something year old boy like 18 and 20 something year old boy Dana Carter shows up all right y'all get to fuck out the house I got shit to do you know what I'm saying but like no matter how hot you are once you become the wife you're still the wife you know what I'm saying yeah I listen this was an Australian guy who I first heard say this uh somewhat cooth phrase, but we were all hanging out of the bar and there was a very hot chicken there. This is like in my early 20s. And somebody pointed out how hot this girl was and the Australian do goes, oh, I bet some blocks tied a fucking out. It's true. Wow.

Yeah, I know. I'm sorry. Hey, listen. I didn't say it. That might just listen. There's a lot of wisdom in that tiny little first. I'm not saying it's right, but it's perspective. It's perspective.

Yeah, and there's at least six women tired of fucking that guy. Of course. Also, from the video, clearly she gets pregnant every time to have sex. So maybe he's just like, I can't afford to keep fucking you. Got down. Yeah, it seems like he's bought her flowers before. Yeah, on the note of her being kind of too hot. Definitely too young for all them kids in the video.

Like, he started getting her pregnant at 12. We were talking about... We'll have that. We were talking about Tray and, too, Sharre. He's a strawberry wine. Oh, yeah, he came back. We were talking about young people. Guys and gals do this.

They start identifying with art, music, specifically, that, like, don't have shit to do with them. And what you came into, Trey, was I was talking about, like, high school cheerleaders singing this song. Like, you know, It was about a man that ain't shit. And it's like, you know, you ain't ever had a man fail you in that way, you know? But like the guys are doing it too.

Me with rap, I'm sure all of us with rap. It was like, yeah, I'll fucking break a dude's jaw. And it's like, dude, I couldn't break a fall much as a jaw, you know. Yeah, right. But like, do y'all remember, you know, women who were too young to identify with this song, blasting it? I certainly do. Absolutely, dude.

And even in the other other way, where it's not identifying with hating the guy. I remember about being middle school dances and like 12 year old couples, you know, dancing with each other, listening to you're still the one by Shania Twain. And like,

looking in each other's eyes like, they didn't think we'd make it. And I'm like, you're fucking like, looking back at you're 12, nobody thought anything. But, that was such a thing.

Yeah. Absolutely. Like, we've been through it all together. Recess. Losing my agenda and getting in trouble for it. you know that reminds me my uh 14 year old nephew texted me out of the blue the lyrics there's only

three things i'm worried about heart breaking paper making an ass shaking pimped out if these hoes dripping i ain't tripping because it's about my pimping didn't say hi didn't say what it was just texting me that yeah that's what's up yeah he doesn't identify with a single word in there i'm so glad that we didn't we weren't able to text or take pictures when i was his age. Yeah, same. Jesus. I mean, yeah, YouTube and all that wasn't the thing.

Oh, thank God. Yeah. Well, that's a, maybe a nice segue. Do we have a wrap? There's some wild DMX renditions out there on the, yeah. My old channel. It would be hilarious, though. It would be hilarious, but they would not play.

I weren't censoring, none of it. I was letting the art speak for itself, you know. Yeah. When I was. But I feel like as chubby and as Mountain Dew's swiggin as you were. they would like at least some of the internet would have been like i don't know he's going pretty hard we might have to give him a pass it's fine white trash dork with a gold chain on y'all will make me shave my legs yeah well done i don't have a rap equivalent but i would

like to read the chorus to one of my favorite cletis t judd songs if that's okay um he's one of My favorite rappers. It ain't the first time this year. It'll be the TV and beer. I about forgot what it's like to be here. As I sleep on the floor while she sniffles and snores, did I shave my back for this? What?

Yeah. How do you shave your own back? Oh, you can't. I've tried. But yeah, that Clea's a song. You can tape it to a back scratcher. Yeah. Yeah.

Two-Shar literally doesn't know what's happening. We have to, you didn't know the first song. Oh, right. Cletus T. Judd is a country, he's like the country weird owl. And so when this song came out, he did, did I shave my back for this. And yeah, and it's funny because the entire song was, the premise doesn't change at all. It's just he's a guy trying to, you know, he does all this stuff for his wife and she won't, you know, give him any. And anyways, it's one of my favorites.

But yeah, I forgot. The rap equivalent of that is no pigeons, which is a response to no squirrels. Scrubs. No, Scrubs is not a rap song, but it is the closest thing I can think of. We'll go with that. The first thing that popped into my head and it's not, it's only about sex, but it's talking shit about sorry-ass man. Do y'all remember to Missy Elliott song, Minut Man with. Hell yeah. Of course. That's the first thing popped into my head. Trina go hard. Trina goes so hard. I remember one of Trina's lines in that song. I'll never forget. She goes, one minute, two minutes, three minutes, hell not a please me. You got to sleep in it. I feel like Megan V. Stalion or Cardi B. Yeah, she probably have one, but I'm not familiar with their O'VWW.

I'm sure there's other ones, yeah, we're not thinking of. They definitely, lady rappers definitely got some men ain't shit songs. Yeah, men ain't shit songs, I feel like, spans all decades. And genres. And genres. Yeah. All genres, yeah. The Bollywood equivalent of this song is, it's called,

Did I Shave My Face for This? Boy, she got stoned for singing that one. Too hard. Much like Dina Carter, we have back-to-back bangers there. Let's talk about Dina real quick, because I promised everybody I bring it up to you, T-R-A-E. Was her name Deanna? and then at like six, nobody said it right,

and then they just made her stick with it? Or what do we think? I mean, yeah, I don't know. It's definitely like, I'm trying to think of other people I've known that had names that didn't, you know, I feel like it's a thing you'll see in the South or in, you know, white trash circles. But also.

But there's two versions of that white trash thing where you made a name and you just wanted this to be the name, but you didn't know how to spell it, you kind of fucked up. You wanted to be called Nina. That's a very funny way of describing such a real thing that seemed to happen. Like, there was this kid in, uh, that like up around where I'm from, somebody had a kid and named it Phoenix.

And they spelled it F-H-O-E-N-I-X. And it's like if you, you've got to go. You don't need the H. You need P-H or just the F. There's no universe, which you would need both the F and the H. But it's like you said, They just don't. Also, it didn't know.

This is a universe. This is a universe. I was about to say, this is a universe where someone is naming their child Phoenix, you know, like. Wait, wait. Actually, that name kind of is. The E. Did you say F-H-O-N-I?

That's Fawn. Oh, E. No, no, no, no, no. It was spelled just like the actual word Phoenix book with a F instead of the P. Also, that kid's sibling was named Craven with a K. How nice, like the comic book. Yes, but. Craven means pussy, means cowardly.

Oh, right. Craven is a word meaning cowardly. Craven the hunter from the Spider-Man books? Yeah. That's not who they name. No, no, no, no. I know that, but that's actually, now that I'm thinking about it, it's weird that his name was Craven because he's such the opposite of all that.

And I never, because to me, I always think of the word Craven. I just think of him, this big beast. I think of West Craven, so I thought it meant disturbing. I don't even think I knew what that word meant. They probably did name him after West Craven, I guess. It's more, well, okay, I guess it depends on where you. you're coming from with it because I've I read the uh game of Thrones books and George R.

Martin throwed the word craving around, uh, more than he describes foods. And it means cowardly. So that's what I think of anyway with Dina. I feel like that's also another version of it where it's like you got a name and they just say it a different way. And then that's just what their name is.

That happened to me in my hometown. You know, my last name is Morrow. and just like there are people who my whole life have and still say Marlowe. Oh. I just like added an A and an L. I got some cousins in Salina. Their name is Berdinette, but more than half a Sala, including like some members of their own family, call it burn it. I could go on for days about this phenomenon.

Hold on, but we're talking about two different phenomenon. That's what I want to point out. And I guess I'm just going to make y'all pick which one you think it is. individually. It could be that they wanted to name their kid Dina and then they didn't realize they were spelling it D-A-N-A-N-O. D-E-A-N-O. Or her name is D-A-N-A, and then the same person who would have done what I just described as an uncle or a cousin was like, that's Dina. And it just stuck. I think it's the former. Where she grow up? I think it's the former too. I think it's like, you know,

know, we've talked, we've talked before about the overlap with white trash and urban naming conventions, you know, in this type of way. I think it's like, like, the D-W-W-A-D situation. Yeah. Y'all not D-W-A-D-A-N-E. No, well, it's, it's D-W-Y-A-N-E or something. So it's like, which I'm sorry, don't make no sense, but it's pronounced Duane. And I think Dana is the same. it's that it's that same exact thing it's like i believe her name was dana and they just spelled it diana

and said fuck it uh well this says she's from she's from nashville and she's the daughter of fred carter junior so i didn't realize that she's one of those carters apparently oh i didn't either and then also i found out that she was married to music director music video director chris Hickey. Maybe we can't find it because she don't want people to know. I was about to say he probably directed this. Yeah. Yeah. But she's from Nashville,

but she comes from, she's white trash, but she's white trash royalty, so she's like rich people. It could go either way then. Mm-hmm. Deanna. Sure could. I get, there's also maybe possible, but I feel like they'd just change the spelling if it was this.

Maybe it was Deanna, and at some point somebody thought, Dina would play better, you know, like or Ralph Emery introduced her as Dina and they were just like, fuck it, it's stuff. Yeah, right. Because, you know, she's in show business and people will be changing their names.

Maybe there was, maybe there was other Dianas at the time that we don't remember, we're not thinking of or don't remember now. We're like, we can't have another Deanna. You can be Dina if you want. Southern enough. Yeah, or that, right, like it's like a market whatever.

Deanna sounds, it's like Dina sounds more country than Deanna. So you're in now. It does. I'm saying I wouldn't be surprised at all if that exact thing happened. Yeah, well, she says, so I found in her biography that she, like, came out with a song at 16 because of who she was, and she didn't get any success. And then she just, like, went to college for a little while, like, had a major, was, like, planning on not being in music.

And then came back to it. Maybe that was the big change. It's like, she woke up one night and was like, it'll be Dina. And it'll work. I want to, I want to semi-correct myself. I found out just now she was Fred Carter Jr's daughter. I knew that name. And then I was like, oh, the Carter family.

But I was like, that doesn't sound right. She is not part of the Carter family. Fred Carter Jr. is a famous musician, producer, et cetera. But he is not part of that. Oh, she was named for the late Dean Martin. So she's Dean up. Mm-hmm. Dina.

Yeah. Solid mysteries. So, I mean, it's literally what you said, Drew. Dean Dean uh Dane uh That's a Dene uh there you go

We uh And no one was like It looks like Deanna to me Or if they did say that They got slapped And it just stayed the same one We called my grandmother Geraldine we got her mama

Dain Dian And Geraldine is obviously Gerald with an I and E at the end But to spell Mammau D-D-D-N I always do D-A-N-D-A-N because if you do it the way It looks like Dyn Dine Dine Dine Dime.

Dian, I'm all dying. And I don't have. No, I don't. So I would have went the other way. I would have changed the spell in a little bit. She's been married three times. I would have done my daughter, or Dean Martin.

What, Tujar? She's been married for the third time in 2017. I'm sure every single one of them was just a lousy son of a bitch. Guarantee it. Guarantee it. That's a great way to wrap it up. Lousy sons of bitches, she guarantees it. Andy, you're our guest.

Go ahead and give us your rating. We go from zero to three Earnhardt's, and you can do it in thirds. You can go last so you can think about it. I'll put you on the spot. I'll go first. I'm giving it two and two thirds. It's a great song. It was ubiquitous.

I like it a lot. It tells the story. But it's not as good as strawberry wine. I almost went with two and one third. The video's great. Two and two thirds. I, too, will give it two and two thirds. It is awesome.

I love it, but it doesn't quite hit the marquee of the other threes that we've given. But yeah, no, love the song. Probably going to add it. I haven't listened to it in a very long time, and it's about to go up in the rotation because it's a very good song. Yeah, just to switch it up, and perhaps this is unfair, but I'll go two and one-thirds because I'm a man that makes me defensive to listen to this song. I've got to take a third off of it.

But I will say, I mean, It's a great song. It is old-fashioned. I was listening to, I did like a Spotify radio thing with strawberry wine the other day, you know, and this song popped up just randomly in my headphones, and I didn't know it was going to play. And it really,

really hit for me out of context, hadn't heard it in years. And then you said we were going to cover it on here. So that all hits. It also has, I think, one of the greatest titles of all time. It's great.

I'm not surprised that it became the title of the album, too, because it's fucking perfect. You know exactly what this song is about just from hearing the title. And then the song and lyrics live up to it. So I really jerked it off to give it a two and one third, but I'm sticking with it. Yeah, yeah, I was going to say, to review that,

Trey heard it the other day, thinks it's amazing, loves it, but as a piece of art, it makes him feel something, so he lowered it. Go ahead, Tushar. I'm going to follow Trey's score two and one-third, only because she presumes that her hair on her legs is the problem. Like, that's what's sopping everything. She just look at her self. What are you doing?

Like, it's just the leg. And like, um, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. It's not. Um, um, um, so the fact that.

Bouchard said it. Not me. Also, the fact that strawberry wine, like, I can't give. Strawberry wine's so good compared to this. It's like,

it bumps it down a little bit. So gradient, her stuff on a curve goes down a little bit. All right. Well, you're currently right out of two and a half. if you average them out and I think I'd did that right. Andy, what is your ratings?

You wrote a three Earnhardt. You know, I think I'm going to go two and two thirds as well. It's a great song. She always votes the way I do. Yeah, that's how I should. Yeah. I, you know, I think we should stop spreading this idea that women have to shave to make a man happy. But it's the 90s.

It's a great song. Also, fuck that low life. Why not a three? Because, I mean, that's strawberry wine. Right. Can't live up to it. All right. Andy, are your legs shaved right now just for context?

Shovem. No, they're pretty stubbly. That's funny. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. That's funny. That's after that right at the start, too. Oh, you did?

Yeah. Yeah, she stopped shaving her arms. It's fine. It's going good. And I don't care. No, actually, that does. doesn't bother me. We talked about this a little bit before.

Actually, let's all talk about that. That'll feel a little bit at the time. Hairy armpits don't bother me. Hairy legs don't really bother me, but stubble does. Go one way or the other. Like a week into it and it's like prickly, it looks gross. It looks like dirty and feels like shit. If you're growing up further than that, I'm like, all right, you're a cute little doggy.

Can't even feel them, yeah. Yeah, I don't like legs to look like they're trying to solve a murder. our buddy Pete Ravello, friend of the well-read podcast, has a great bit about his wife, not shaving under her armpit, and he totally agrees with it and also makes him want to vomit. So, like, it's a thing. How do y'all feel about that? Oh, and last thing I'll say, I saw a TikTok of a woman who didn't shave her Happy Trail. She was in a bikini.

Today I saw it this morning, and I hated it so bad. Go ahead, Gore. Well, here's where I'm at on it. I would prefer Amber to continue shaving under her. her arms, but if she decided that she didn't want to, I would not give a fuck. I mean... What about legs? She doesn't hardly ever.

Like, I mean, she... Does that have any effect on you? No, hell no. Like, I mean, she shaves her legs, but like, sometimes she'll let it go for a while and like, no, I don't give a... No, hell no. Do you like, do you go the other way? Do you sometimes, like, find porn where it's a hairy woman?

No, fine. If one comes about, I'm not going to stop. You know what I mean? All right. I think you're going to give us the opposite. What's up? Wait, wait, what's the question? Does, like,

fear bother you? Like, how do you, you know, do you notice at all? I mean, as a, as an Indian dude who's been with a bunch of Indian ladies, hair is, like, such a big part of their, like, hair management. So I typically, it's, it's, you know, I had a friend in college who her parents bought her an electrolysis machine. like as a gift so she doesn't have to pay so much. So like, I don't know.

I typically, shit, yeah, less hair the better, I think. Is that fucked up? It might be if it is, if that's how you feel, it's just, that's probably why I'm single. We've been conditioned to feel all of this shit. Dude, some people are into amputees. Like, just whatever you like.

We've literally never once had the discussion. I think she, uh, a seams hair don't have for her because she's had everything up to it, including her buho lasered. She said she didn't know they were going to laser her butthole when she went there and that was a surprise, but she still went for it. Imagine going to a kid. They laser, you got the electrolysis, whatever, Tuchar's talking about.

And it seems like if you don't want to have hair, it seems like it fucking hits to me because she went and got those laser treatments and she just ain't ever really have to worry. You have to go back and get it done again, I guess. but like if you want to be shaving and think shaving sucks, it seems like that shit works like a fucking charm. So that's what Katie does. So it's not really a thing in our relationship because of that. I love all comedians talk about this. It's like if you're married to a comedian,

they're going to end up talking about how you get your butt hole lizard. It reminded me, Corey, of one of the great moments of well-read and our all-rel relationship lore. We used to do Gene Gatman's podcast. We had to stop doing it because one time we got on there and he started screaming the N-word, and we had to be like, you're an idiot,

don't put this out, this is over. But one time we was on there with our friend, Erica, and she was talking about her mom does that for work. And she was like,

so my mom, laser, and he just goes, whoa, hey, your mom, lasered your pussy? We had a,

there was about 10 minutes of we could not contain ourselves. He just kept going back to, could you talk about your mom, laser and your pussy? Yeah, that Well, I mean, if you want to get your pussy lizard And you got a mom that does that.

What are you supposed to do? Go fucking pay for it somewhere else. No, you're going to get the hook up. Well, I remind everybody to follow Lucy Lightning. Thanks everyone for being with us. And I wanted to say Rhonda Hart plays every Wednesday at the Florida in Pensacola, Florida. You can go see her.

I'm sure she closes with this song every time she's got a great voice. That hits. That does hit. Thank you, Andy. Thank you. Nice. This night I dreamed the mountains were a woman with wildflower hair and goat's milk skin. I dreamed she used and told me all the stars.

That was Lucy Lightning with Mother Mountain. single will be available April 22nd and we thank Lucy for hanging out in the studio with us today and giving us that little preview that little clip of her first undoubtedly number one hit publish out the podcast and that's right a show about country at a tight don't expect no shit from