wellRED podcast - BUBBA SHOT - "Like The Rain"

Episode Date: April 8, 2022

Clint Black is an institution. And a 90's country music God. But he is also somehow under the radar. The exception to every rule about fame, Black is a household name but also an underplayed performer. "Like The Rain" in 1996 is the first single from Black's Greatest Hits compilation. It was his tenth number one hit, and a doozy at that. 

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the podcast gentlemen first the facts like the rain is a song co-written and performed by Clint Black. It was released in 1996 as the first and only single

that hadn't been recorded and released already on his greatest hits compilation album. It was his 23rd chart single, and in October of that year, it became his 10th number one hit. Confusingly, it was a Grammy Award winner, the next year, nominated in 97, and then technically awarded in 197,

in 1998. So on the calendar, two years difference, I think 14 or 15 months difference from the time it came out to the time it was actually awarded the Grammy. It was co-written with a gentleman by the name of Hayden Nicholas. We will get into him later. But he is Clint Black's band leader and they operate like a band. It's not like a studio musician thing and he's not like a singer or excuse me a songwriter out of national. He is Clint Black's guitarist, bandleader, and co-writer on a lot of songs. What's up, fellas?

Welcome to Bubba shot. We are, I was going to say we're down an Indian, but it looks like we're up in Indian. Hey. We've reached our quota for Indians here on the show. No more Indians. You've been partying, living in Vegas, traveling around, and you're late for work. You've become a white man.

Hey, congrats, welcome. Thanks, fellas. Yeah, I've been in a kind of wild ride, but I'm back to home base, and I'll be a good engine. All right. I shall not comment on that. Did you get most of the facts? Do you need me to repeat? I did get the facts.

My man got the facts. That's a lot of miles out of one song, which I mean, I know that, like, you know, sometimes you get that hit that just sticks around, and this one surely did. But, like, really, like, it being, you know, recorded. 96 comes that 97 wins in 98 that's a lot of fucking miles from a hit right there yeah it's it's kind of wild how that works and i don't know what the rules are like i said it became number one in october of 96 nominated for a grammy in 97 but then awarded that grammy according to what i found in 98 i don't know well i get a sort of feeling that uh might be some discrepancies here on the panel with this song but maybe I'm wrong. I can't even really, I can't give a long and heartfelt reason

as to why I really, but this song was always one of my absolute favorite country songs when I, like back in the day. This is definitely my favorite Clint Black song. And I like Clint Black. I thought for Clint Black. Did you wear Sabaton on purpose? I thought it was

funny. Like Katie had stacked up a bunch of like shirts that I'm supposed to put up, you know, she'd be doing laundry. And this one was on top. And I was like, we're about to do Bubba. It's just funny. You know, irony.

I don't know. I didn't wear it for any Clint black reason. But yeah, I'm wearing a metal shirt. I didn't know if you did. But like, you know, I was kind of saving this for later, but I guess I'll open with it. This is really positive song lyric-wise, but it's dark, heavy. Moody. Sounding.

Very moody song. And it's driving. The reason I thought you might have wore Sabaton is it's, This is so, like, you know, not that any of this will surprise anybody, but, you know, as a poor, sad, fat, trash child, you know, all just checking all those boxes. When I was in high school, you know, thought I was smarter and everybody else, real angsty, because I ain't had no mom, poor. It's good that you're grown. I know, right? Yeah, I guess I got over some of that stuff.

but so anyway I used to like I used to enjoy just walking in the rain like I'd walk home from football practice and if it was raining and stuff that really suited me as a fucking as a 15 year old yeah but you know what I mean it was like yeah like I was in a fucking some like you know comic book character or something about a comic book about pills you know I don't know yeah that's fucking but anyway I don't know if that's what it is or what but like it's like you said drew the song the lyrics of the song are very like or like romantic and shit but it does sound very like i don't know it's got like a rainy day field ominous and yeah and yeah but so but this song just always really really really

super fucking hit for me it just ever since the first time i heard it so until we uh until we decided to do it and i pulled it up i in my memory this was a song about either love unrequited or love lost. I'm with you. Like, you know, and we'll get into those lyrics. I'll go ahead and read the first verse. But that first chorus, like the rain I'm calling for you, just in my memory, this dude had lost somebody.

Right. Or she didn't love him back or whatever. And then I started getting into the day. I was like, oh, this is, this is a very positive song. Anyway, let's get into it. I never liked the rain until I walk through it with you. Every thunder cloud that came was one more I might not get through. on the darkest days there's always light and now I see it too but I never liked the rain

till I walk through it with you yeah I mean I went into it the exact same as you when I started I really started diving into lyrics and I too had always assumed like I'm calling for you now like in my brain it was always like and she's not answering you know what I mean like I'm just like hopefully screaming through the rain but yeah it's very optimistic too sure I assume you had no memory of this song. No memory. Damn. Yeah.

I saw, okay, don't look at me like I'm some kind of loser. No, it's just, no, it's not that. It's like, it's like, I just remember like, like, there's certain songs that I can't believe that anyone didn't hear them, you know, regardless of your fandom. Because I remember when me and Amber first started dating, she had never heard the song, he stopped loving her today. And I was like, I was like, wait, what? And she goes, well, like, I'm not the biggest country music fan.

I was like, okay. I'm not, I've heard the most popular EDM song. But you have a dad. But right, right. And they listen to- drinks. Yeah. And she's like,

well, we listen to country and I was a kid, but it was just what was on the radio. Like, they listened to 90s country and all that stuff. And I was like, but this song is just, and to me,

like the rain feels like that. But granted, I go into different environments than Tushar does. I wouldn't say that like the rain is like that for me. It's not. I am not surprised Tuchar hadn't heard it. There's not even a music video for it. And it is one of Clint Black's most successful song.

but it became successful over time, like one of those movies where the VHS cells just kept piling up and kept piling up kind of thing. What is going on with no videos? The videos. That makes no sense.

In the 90s, like a lot of these songs we've covered like mid-90s, videos were huge in the 90s. CMT, I'm sure, was popping with country music videos. This song was a number one hit and there's no video.

It's so fucking weird. So it becomes a number one hit. I have a theory. You know, we should get top of, me and co on here, although he will never agree to do this podcast, making fun of country music. But my theory is twofold. One, when we've run into that, George Strait, I can't remember the other ones, but a lot of times it's been people who were established.

I think the music video was kind of like the mixtape or let me think of maybe a better analogy. A TikTok releasing a song on TikTok would be now. I think a lot of old school people were like, I ain't fucking with that if I don't have to kind of thing. we'll put one out if we need to. Like the rain comes out and shoots up to number 10 in two months, gets nominated for a Grammy. Well, what's the point of wasting all that money? Yeah, I guess.

I just figured that like, you know, Warner Brothers or whatever record label you would, like they just make you do all this shit. You know, they're like, we've got to have this. We've got to have that. And I think if you're Martina McBride, they do. If you're Shania Twain, they do and you want to. If you're Clint Black, who came out, I think, in 88, 87 when he first started, if you're John Anderson, et cetera, et cetera,

maybe you just, they can't make you. Right. You know what I mean? Like you're on your second contract, et cetera, et cetera. That's, I don't know. That's a theory that I have. I can't come up with anything else. We now know music videos were huge in breaking artists,

making them sustainable. Maybe they didn't know it then. I can't come up with another explanation because it doesn't make any sense as a business thing. Right. I mean, it's clearly he didn't want to because if he wanted to, they would have let him. Well, you know how like, You know how like, and I don't know if this is still true, but I bet it is, but for a long time there, after Napster first came out and that became a thing and the music industry was just on the ropes, you know, like South Park said, like fucking Metallica can only afford one gold-plated shark tank now, you know, or whatever.

But like it was the narrative was like the music industry is dying because of the internet, right? Well, during that, in like the aughts and stuff, that the other narrative was like, except for country music. Because those dipshit hayseeds ain't got the internet. So they are still buying records, baby. We're still hitting over here. In the fucking trailer park land. Yeah. Ain't no computers to worry about here.

You're fucking idiots. Who's. Not a country music. I can't plug the music video in my truck. Yeah. To the rest of the music industry. Anyway, so. Yeah, you couldn't.

At that time, you couldn't play a video on a tractor. You are correct. But what I'm saying is maybe this was a similar phenomenon where it was like they were still so. They don't have TVs. No, the radio, they still hadn't gotten, they were still hitting so hard on the radio and in the traditional way that they had always hit at that point, they had not yet moved on to music videos being this, like, massive part of the machine like rock music had in the same way that. Contributors are just always a little behind because our people are slow and stupid and

poor. It's also because the fans are typically older. When you were in pop at that time rock, less so now, and definitely rap, you needed 18-year-old fans. Right. You couldn't come out and get a 35-year-old fan or a 45-year-old fan. country still has that. You know, like 55-year-old,

65-year-old country fans listen to the newest country artist. Other genres don't have that as much. You've got to get those new young fans, and that was the way to do it. Was Clint Black hitting for several, several years before this? 88 is when he started, so it'd only been eight years,

but he had, like, a meteoric rise. Like, his first album had, like, four number one hits. He's always been, to me, the, like, the Barry Sanders of country music, because I remember when he retired. And like, but seriously, like, he retired. And everybody's like, wait, what? And that's what?

I remember when he retired. Yeah, I'm just saying like, he retired and everybody was like, wait, what? Like, first off, you don't retire? You just sing country into whatever. And he retired and everybody was like, he just put out a number one album. He's on fire. And I just remember thinking like, man, Barry Sanders did the same thing. Like he was hot.

He wasn't old enough to retire. And then he just was like, fuck it, I've had enough. And like Barry Sanders, his legacy is not quite. as strong as, you know, people who won the Super Bowl or whatever. Clint Black is a monster, but he's never considered in that tear. I know that, you know, my boy Thompson's opinion of anybody isn't going to change the, you know, prevailing public opinion of someone or their legacy. But I think for that reason, because you're right, I agree with what you just said, Drew.

He's like, he was huge and everything, but he's not, like, commonly considered up there among the greats or whatever, which is maybe why for a long time. I remember Thompson's like go-to example when debating the sorriness of like new radio country music was always Clint like. If you look me in the face, if you can look at me with a straight face and try to tell me that Clint Black ain't 10 times more country than Florida, Georgia line. You can kiss my fucking ass. Like Clint Black was like, he was always like, ain't nobody going to tell me that Clint Black ain't more country than these fucking, you know, key words. Making a lot of money and then quit and work is pretty country. You know what I mean?

So, yeah. Yeah, but like he just, you know, but I don't know. It's also, he's also got a great country name, like Clint Black. Clint stands alone. That's good. If somebody was just named Clint, like how Cher is, like that would be. Yeah, right. But like Clint.

He kind of is that. Yeah, right. But like Clint Black is a super hidden name. Did he pick that night? Andrew, did you see that when you, like... I have found no evidence that he picked it. I cannot believe that Tushar did not have commentary on Clint Black.

I thought it was too easy. I've grown this year. That's good. That's good. He's grown this year. Yeah, it looks like that's his real name based on Wikipedia. That's a great... That's nominative determinants right there.

His middle name is actually not. There it is. He was born in New Jersey, which is interesting and outside of the norm. Now, he was raised in Texas, and his dad's side is from Texas. His dad's name is GA, GA Black. G.A. Black. Yeah. Go ahead, too short. Do some of that.

How is he? Get whole blacks. I just looked him up. You said he hasn't retired? He did retire? He kind of retired? I mean, yeah, I'm sure that he came back and did some other stuff. But I just remember that they were like, yeah, Clint Black's walking away.

he's not making any more reference. I mean, tell that to his upcoming tour schedule. Well, yeah, Garth Brooks also retired. Like, you know what I'm saying? But he did announce that he was retiring at one point. Nobody actually does. I mean, God damn, the Rolling Stones have been on the farewell tour since 1975, you know. It's a long goodbye, and it's worse every penny.

All right. Let's read some of these lyrics because we're 15 minutes in. We barely got into the song. And then we'll circle back to what we were talking about about Clint Black. and I want to get into his partner, Hayden, because I have an opinion, and I want to run it by you all about, when you think about all his hits, and this one's a perfect example.

Back to the lyrics. We're in what you'd either call the second verse, because they did that thing where they made a long verse up top, or maybe we're still in the first verse. I hear it falling in the night and filling up my mind. All the heavens rivers come to light, and I see it all unwind. I hear it talking through the trees and on the window pane. When I hear it, I just can't believe.

I've never liked the rain. Like the rain, I have fallen for you, and I know just why you like the rain, always calling for you, and I'm falling for you now, just like the rain. I just, I wonder, like, this song feels like either one of two lines. I don't know, like, the very first line, I never liked the rain until I walked through it with you. It feels like some songwriter thought of that line and was like, that's it. Here we go. Yeah, right, right.

Like, but I also, but it's hard for me to believe that they thought of that first. If they thought it, I'll say this, if they thought of that first and then after that, they were like, holy shit, like the rain, I'm falling for you. God damn, we got a number one record, baby. That's double it. Do you know what I'm saying? Like both of those lines seem like that thing to me. Like when that occurs to a songwriter, they're like, well, we got to do something with that. And I just wonder like which one came first or how that all worked, but it's too very kind of like.

they feel like they'd be light bulb lyrics for a song. You know what I mean? Yeah, I do know what you mean. I agree. And it also gets back to that thing of, it's more impressive to me if the first line came first. Yeah. Because that means they thought of that and then decided to make the song positive.

Right. Because it does sound like how good it was, you know. But it's also obviously a double entendre of being with somebody, you like being with them so much that even going to be in. through the hard times is easier or whatever. I don't know, man. Like, I hear you on the lyrics and you're completely right, but I got to give it credit too.

And we touched on it a minute ago of just how driving this song is. It reminds me, you know, we always do the rap comparison. It reminds me of very modern raps, not in like what it's about, but in they have figured out now. Like, it's a big thing in rap to have more than one hook. Like your bridge will have a hook. and then your hook is a hook and then your lyrics are just three hooks back to back.

Hooks all the way down, baby. Hooks all the way down. That's kind of what's going on here with this song. And, you know, and that driving music really drives at home. Let's get back to it because there's not much of a story with this song. The theme is one theme and it goes through it. When the cloud is rolling over, thunder striking me, it's as bright as lightning and I wonder why I couldn't see.

That it's always good and when the flood is gone, we still remain. guess I've known all alone. I just belong here with you falling like the rain. Like the rain I have fallen for you. I know just why you like the rain, always calling for you. I'm falling for you now. Just like the rain, I have fallen for you. I'm falling for you now, just like the rain.

There's one more verse, but I'm going to pause for a second and get back to Clint Black in general and his co-writer here. Hayden Nicholas met. he was in the band Revolver. Is this the oldest Hayden? It's got to be. Well, Hayden Caulfield was the... Oh, right.

Holden. I think that's an old name. Oh, you're right. Yeah. But some of those names, though, are older than you'd think. They're sort of like... Oh, names that then, like... Yeah, yeah.

I'm not saying Hayden is one of those, but it could be. But, like, the oldest Hayden I've known as Hayden Christensen. Other than that, it's just little tiny Hayden's running around the park. Right. Um, well, his is... His middle name's Hayden, James Hayden, Nicholas, but he went by Hayden. Probably a last name then, I bet. He had a maternal papal whose last name was Hayden that became his middle name,

then he went by it. Glad we've figured this out. Yeah, yeah. Gotten right down to the heart of it. He was in the band Revolver. I'm sorry. Played extensively in Texas. Then he moved to California where he got work as a guitarist,

and he came back home in 87, and he met a struggling country singer named Clint Black. Nicholas had a home studio. they joined up together to record a demo for Black and tried to get a recording deal. Their first collaboration, Nobody's Home, helped Clint Black get a recording contract in 88 and became a hit. Clint decided to keep him on,

and they have been together ever since. He is, as I said earlier, the band leader. He plays lead guitar, so he's not just writing the lyrics. He's also creating the music. They often go on retreats to Colorado to write songs for their next album. over 60 of their collaborations have been on Black's albums with 15 of them hitting number one. Hell yeah.

He's been nominated for Song of the Year twice with Better Man in 89, which we can't do on here because it's not the 90s and killing time, which we could do on here because it was 1990. And we shall. Co-written by Clint Black. He's gotten several Grammys. The Hardway was included in the musical Urban Cowboy and was nominated for a Tony. in 2003. He's almost a double Grammy-Tonic.

Yeah. It's rare in country, especially of this era, for someone not to be, okay, you're a songwriter, you get a job as a songwriter. You're a singer.

You get a job as a singer. You're a studio musician. You get a job as a studio musician. And this machine that is Nashville will take and pick, okay, we got this young guy. What kind of hit does he need? Is he good looking?

He's good looking. All right? Let's give him a fun song. What fun song? do we have in the stable boom who can play on this album who's available i think that clint black's sound is slightly different because he's really in a band right just with the front man as the name or whatever and i think that's interesting but i also think it's why he's different and maybe not as respected as he could be because he didn't have i don't know

as many songwriters to pull from you know right that's interesting you say that because i'm thinking about the only other person I know who's like, they've got a band and their band does all the studio stuff with them and they've had the same band for literally ever is Brad Paisley. And everything. And all three of those, everything they do, I'm not saying everything to do sounds alike,

but they all have their certain feel to it, where some people, they'll put out a record and it's like, man, this has a completely different, you know, thing, but everything Clint Black does has that little,

you know, Clint Back button on it. And he's got a deep voice, but it's also a lot of dark, songs. I've been thinking about it. And obviously, country has, it's a trope that we have sad songs, but even the music is kind of brooding. Clint Black has a sort of brooding tone. I mean, one of my favorite songs is wherever you go, there you are. It's an existential crisis song where he's like, you can keep drinking, you can run from yourself, you can do all this stuff,

but wherever you go, there you are. Also, most of the time when a country song is not sad and it's happy. It's usually like really, really cheesy, stupid, happy. And this is a happy song, but it's, it's not that. Like, it's just, it's positive, but it still sounds, you know, like you said, him singing, it still sounds like very brooding. It's probably why we thought it was sad. It was, uh, I liked it. The second verse had, uh, a reference to all the heavens, right? It has like a kind of a tip of the hat of like the world in terms of, it's funny. When I ended the song,

I was like, this whole song is about God and this and that and it's not. That was my bias kind of working into it. Because all the other songs that we've done. All the other songs have been very God heavy. Is Clint Black considered or is this song considered kind of anything with the old Bible? I sure hope not. I'm genuinely glad to that.

I'm not trying to ruin the song for y'all, but it's just the one word kind of was like, ugh. I'm glad you asked that because I did look some stuff up, not about the song, but about Clint Black. I have said to Corey and Trey before, I think on the well-read podcast, you could tell me about anything about Clint Black, and I would believe you. Because on top of the retiring early and the Barry Sanders stuff and him not being a super-duper, like, in the pop, he didn't put out music videos. He worked with one guy's whole career. you could tell me that him and Hayden were gay. They've been hiding it the whole time. And I'd be like, oh, I could see that.

You could tell me that he is a right-wing Christian militant freak who has a small army living on a compound. He leads a cult now. And I'll be like, okay. Like, I don't know anything about Clint Black. But it's super interesting because as I looked into him, he's been in movies. Uh-huh. He was in Maverick. Yeah.

Maybe he hits. Maybe he does hit. Well, I can't think of Mel Gibson's name. It's a Mel Gibson movie. No, that's a Maverick. Hmm? Mel Gibson. The Maverick is a Mel Gibson movie.

Yeah, that's what I said. I couldn't think of Mel Gibson's name. Oh, I thought you said, I thought you said you couldn't think of. I thought you came up with Maverick, and then you said I can't think of the Mel Gibson movie. That's my bad. I'm missing. Oh, no. I was just saying, what the hell?

Anyway, my point is it's not like a random movie that was underground. Right. Do y'all know Clint Black's song from that movie? It hits so hard. I'm sure I've known. It's just a fun. It's a fun song about gambling. It's called Good Run of Bad Luck.

I love that song. It's all. Also co-written by Hayton Nicholas. Nice. Check it out. That is a great song. So I was looking up facts about him trying to figure it out. I forgot he was on Celebrity Apprentice in 2004.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Do you remember that, Trey? No. I don't, I never, you know, I didn't keep up with Celebrity Apprentice too much. I remember some of the more like, well, no, not really. Some people you bring up that were on that. I'm like, yep, I remember them showing her ass on my show. Yeah. Yeah, but he's not one of them. How far do you go?

He is married to an actress. Her name is, I lost it. Where is it at? Lisa. Lisa Hartman and he got married in 1990. She was like a TV actress in the late 80s, early 90s. He also lived in L.A. with her for a few years. That's probably why he was in them movies. Yeah. I was surprised to learn that because I went into this like, man, I don't know anything about Clint Black in spite of the fact that he's kind of Southern royalty. And then I thought, well, that's sort of his thing. He's like mysterious and he did retire and he didn't care about the spotlight.

And then I find out he moved to Hollywood with his actress wife was in movies. It just didn't trickle down to me. I don't know. Wonder if he was going for that he got. Yeah. You said he had the Grammys and the Tonys and then he's. He's also doing this acting stuff. I wonder if he, it'd be, how wild would it be if Clint Black?

Was an Egot? Was it on the short list of Egot recipients. That'd be wild as hell. What he was going for. Didn't work out. So he just called it. I don't know. You think that's in his mind, though.

Like you said, he was, he thought, I'm doing this music thing, but I want to focus more on acting. Like around his retirement, did he start getting some more roles that we don't know of? And he's just like, this is what I want to do. And I didn't see any. I kind of wondered if he was just out. in L.A. hanging out with his wife and you know, you're Mel Gibson,

you meet Clint Black and he's like, I'll do a song for your movie, just put me a little roll. It could also be too. I thought of this. This is pre-Twitter. There's no talking heads. I was 10 or 8 or however old I was.

I wonder if like he went Hollywood in the minds of country music fans a little bit. I felt I've heard that. I was also part of why, you know, he's not. I'm not going to have enough good examples to pull, but I feel like there was like a long established tradition of that being a thing. You know, singing cowboys and stuff.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah, Roy Rogers. The original. Going way back to fucking, yeah, dim days. It's like, there's just like a thing that you used to do, you know, did both. Fucking, you go ahead of the guitar standing in front of this camera in the fucking desert. You know, that's true. That did used to be, you're right.

That did used to be more of a thing. Like now when a country singer, is in a movie. It's usually some stupid B movie on, you know, CMT or whatever. But it's weird because nowadays in the... Some people we love are getting into like the more prestigious stuff. Yeah.

Rizbel being in Charles Simpson, the Isbel. Yeah, you're right. I feel like, and it's funny because they've just completely, routinely, frequently overlooked us. But I feel like part of what happens is I feel, and I'm just pulling this out of my ass,

But I feel like Hollywood's like, we need some goddamn like redneck. Sort of rednecky cowboy-ass people. And we don't know any anywhere. Right. We got, we already got four Brits. They're going to play these guys.

Right. But you can't have all. It'd be nice if we had some that weren't that. So what are we going to do? And people are like, you ever heard of country music? You know, you know,

you know, let's get some of those idiots in here. Right. Give it some fucking. They look good. They're recognizable. They're spitting legitimacy for the, for the fucking.

hayseeds out there, then they'll deal with it, you know, or whatever. Like, that's what I, that's how I feel like. Yeah. That sort of came about. Speaking of Jason Isbell, not to derail this, but I saw him in Vegas, which is the reason I went at the Virgin Theater. And that man has a beautiful voice. Sure does.

He puts on a hell of a show, too. You open for him, Trey? In Vegas. Yeah. Did that go well? In Anaheim. It went okay. Yeah.

I did Anaheim and Vegas. Vegas. Anaheim went surprisingly well. Vegas was just fine. You know, I mean, you know what it is. Vegas is only fine when you do,

when people came to see you. You know what I mean? Yeah, like comedy in front of music is always like a, I just, because I saw them, I saw him open up and I was like, Trey open,

like in this situation, it's not seem fun, but this hit. I was trying to find that I can't pull it up quickly, a picture that Andy showed me of Isbel recently where he's letting his freak flag fly a little bit he's starting to dress very much like a hipster

and I just think it's funny that Hollywood is like we need us some cowboys and then they get like I love Jason Isbell I'm not trying to shit on him but he's not a cowboy I mean he's a very angsty you know what I mean like that kind of guy he wears rings he dresses like a fucking vampire he just wears cowboy boots instead of regular ones

but you know vampires and cowboys got a similar thing going on Vampires apparently hip him. He got that song. He'd be dressing like him. I'd forgotten about that. But that's definitely why I said that subconsciously. Let's finish these lyrics, fellas.

If I can find where I had them. There we go. When the night falls on our better days and we're looking to the sky for the winds to take us high above the plains, I know that we'll find better ways to look into the eye of that storm that we'll be calling forever.

We'll be falling. Like the rain. I have fallen for you. and I know just why you like the rain. Always calling for you. I'm falling for you now. Just like the rain, I have fallen for you. And I know just why you like the rain. Always calling for you.

I'm falling for you now. That's my favorite part of the song when they get into this and it's just the piano. It's when the night falls on our better days. And then it builds up and it's just do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do like the rain. It sounds like meatloaf, dude. Yeah, it's really like, I was going to say Broadway. kind of, but like it really builds to this crescendo

and it's like a it's like a fucking, it's like a rainstorm. Yeah, yeah. It's like a metal song without the, ugh. It starts out with like, you know, it's like drizzling to begin with and it builds to this like big thunder clap crescendo thing. Yeah, it's just a really cool song in my opinion.

And again, and like I just, I think I, as far as I recall, I just liked it like purely music. I'm sure it was the sound of it the sort of like, like we already told it does sound dark and brooding and that suited me to a fucking tea at this time. And because I didn't have no you know, I didn't

have no love. It wasn't fucking bag of shit Amber hadn't come along yet, I don't think. Right. I didn't, I wasn't equating this song to any girl in my head. I don't think. I just really like the way just musically, I just really appreciated this song. I feel. I might be

misremembering. There might have been some you know, trailer trailer ho in there. I don't know. There's got to be an unlimited number of Bollywood songs because this is almost About rain.

About rain and love. Like, this is almost a cute analogy. And I don't know the exact song with them. I'm going to, I'll ask my mom to see like there must be something like this. It's funny because I've been sitting here trying to think of the rap version.

I just think, ain't very rap. They don't rap much about like, make it rain little lane. Yeah, sure. Yeah, if you want to go that, sure, making it rain. You can find all kinds of them, but like trying of like a song about someone gaining an appreciation for something else because of a woman. I ain't, I ain't right. I ain't gonna rap about that. Maybe there was a song in the 90s about two crackheads loving each other or something like that. A cautionary tale. I don't know, but yeah, I couldn't think of nothing. Rap don't get sweet often. Which is why I for me. Yeah, sure.

Yeah, I like some R&B song, though. There's definitely an R&B, yeah, for sure. Yeah. Anything boys to men did was this. Oh, yeah, I remember her. I can't believe this guy wasn't bigger. Yeah, he's a good-looking guy. Well, and that's his, you know, at the time, not famous, but somewhat of a celebrity wife.

Yeah. Right, yeah, what, I know we talked about her earlier, but what was her deal? They, like... Yep. She was on a bunch of TV shows in the late 80s and early. 2000s as he was breaking. Is she related to Mary Hartman, wonder? I don't know.

I didn't look into her too much. I can remember them or I seem to be remembering them being a kind of sort of like a, like a country tabloid, like item. You know what I mean? Hollywood. Good looking guy. But in the country world or whatever, I feel like I remember that. You're right, but it didn't like it seems to me that it just didn't.

Maybe they were like five years too early. I mean, maybe this dude got in a fight with somebody on CMTs, and that's why he wasn't doing it right. Or he did exactly what he wanted to do, and it just wasn't, you know. It made me, but it's like they were taking these pictures and being a part of that tabloid thing. I don't think he wanted to do that. Right. But maybe I'm wrong.

But, you know, how much would that not hit? No, my God. Taking a picture with your wife? For a magazine? Ugh. No, but just being one of those people that, like, tabloids want you to take pictures. I mean, obviously, if you're that person, then you get all the millions of dollars, so that makes it easier, I guess.

But, like, still, that would be the worst part of the job, for sure. Absolutely. It's the worst part of our job, and we don't even have to do it as much as these people. You know what I mean? You mean going to a shoot or people just, like, taking pictures of you on the red carpet? Both. I meant being one of those people that that is required or further required of. or desire of, yeah, right.

Dude, there's plenty of people that hit real hard and make plenty of money in this game that, like, the magazines don't give a fuck about that, that don't ever have to put up with that type of shit. And I don't care what I'm doing. I don't ever. In my limited experience. And I never will be.

I mean, I'm not worried about it. Because you don't want to. In my limited experience, dude, like, I'm not, I ain't going to be a magazine fodder, right? I mean, you know, you went to the red carpet and all them people made fun of you. They did. They did.

And for the record, I was getting into that. I was going to get into that. In my limit experience on the red carpet, because like I am an attention whore without question. I'm not even going to try to act like I'm not. But that type of thing, it didn't hit for me because it's not, it's really weird.

You don't really walk the red carpet and then they just take pictures. There's like stations and you just kind of shuffle to the station and then you have to stand there and you don't really know when they're done. taking pictures of you and it's weird and then you just go to the next station and then yes, if you're me you get placed besides the cast from a really popular

Netflix show and they all are 5, 5, 110 pounds and you're just sticking out like a sore thumb and then you get voted worse dress. You should have thrown one of them into the crowd I could pick you up like I could have. Look these little boys I can pick them up.

Dude, I could have thrown you. You'd have got to rest it probably But it's hilarious. Worth it. All press is good for us. You could have done every podcast. Rogan would have had you on the next day. All right. One thing I got to throw in here because it didn't come up,

but I wanted to tell you all because it hit for me. He is a high school dropout. Nice. Hell yeah. Yeah, it's good to see people make it, you know. That could have been the Jersey side or the Texas side coming out in him. It's really tough to call what happened there. He's Italian on his mom's side,

and he's redneck on his dad's side. It's kind of wild that he ain't been in a tabloids more, if we're honest. Right, yeah. It's time for a rating, fellas. Because I don't think we got a rap comparison, and there's no video, so. Well, I mean, I opened up by saying I just how much I fucking love this song. I can't, like, and I know I've made it a point before to be like, well, if fancy and these other things, if these are threes, I can't make this a three. But again, it doesn't, like, it does hold up for me, but I don't like,

It don't hold up on the level that it hit for me at the time. Like back then, like I said, this was among my very favorite country songs. I fucking loved it. And it still hits me real hard, but I don't like, I don't like look back on it and think like, man,

that song was even more of a masterpiece than I realize. Like, I don't do that. But I'm still just out of respect. I mean, I'm going to give it a three out of three because of how hard it hit for me for how many years, you know.

That was a curb ball there at the end. Yeah, I know. I felt the same way going in. I was like, man, I've loved this song forever. It's awesome. I'm probably going to give it a three. And then I thought about the whole like, dude, you fucking give everything a three. But then just being objective, I think that musically, it is a three for me. Lyrically, it's probably more of a two and one-third Earnhardt. So I'm going to meet there in the middle and say it's two-thirds earn-hart. Because I, like, again, now realizing like, oh, it's not this sad song that I thought it was going to be. It kind of takes it away from me a little. bit, but the music is so good. I love the crescendo that it builds to. And there are two, like Drew said, there's two light bulb lyrics in there. So I think a solid, a hard two and two thirds. Okay. A hard two and two thirds. Yeah. I'm going to go with two and two thirds as well. I'll give a slightly different explanation, which is, I think this is a borderline perfect song, but it does not transcend. And I think that's what I would say about Clint Black. Clint Black is

unbelievable, but he's not transcendent the way that Fancy or Reba McIntyre is and was. So I'm going to go two and two-thirds Earnhardt for a great song that just isn't a transcendent song.

I'm going to two and one-third. I'll take a third off from y'all's ratings just because I didn't know him. There's not a video. I didn't like the heaven reference. I know that's all hard. I said heavens. though. Heavens. Heavens. Heavens is dead. It's different.

Yeah. It totally is, dude. I'm as godless as they come and I might refer to all that as the heavens. Because that's open, that's at least open minded, but like, you know, the heavens is mythological. It's still spiritual. I don't know. I feel like it predates like, you know, like the Greeks, the Greeks were calling that the heavens. The heavens. Yeah. Yeah, where their gods live.

But gods is different than God. I can deal with God. Oh, right. God. That's true. Yeah, yeah. We need many heavens. There's many gods.

Where are we going to put our elephants? I did really. I really did love. That's what thunder is. I love the piano in the song. For me, it made it into something that it's just beyond a just a classical country's music, or maybe it doesn't. but I have to go a little lower just because I didn't, I don't know. There's no video, which is rude at this point for me.

And yeah, I couldn't. I just feel two and one third. Let me say this before we leave. I think I'm going to start pointing this out when I see it. And I know we've got a song on the list coming up that is this. This, in my opinion, is only a country song because Clint Black sang it. I agree. Imagine Josh Grobin singing this song and really nothing has to change.

change. Even melodically, even the way that it's instrumental, nothing has to change. And you go, that's a Josh Grubin song. I feel that way about most of his music. And I think that he and Hayden, Nicholas, having that partnership is a big reason why. And it might be why he didn't get all the way to that, you know, top God level as a performer. Right. Yeah, that's an astute observation show. I definitely agree with you. But Clint Black, you know, he hits. His country in a country way. Like Waylon Jenin said, how do you know in a song's country? If I sing it, it's country. Right. Yeah, there you go. I'm not great at math, but I'm pretty sure we just hit a two and two-third average. It's pretty good for that song.

I think so. Appreciate y'all. Appreciate you, Clit Black. You can come on Bubba Shott the podcast anytime, and we'll talk about being an Italian redneck. Hit. Scoo. Scoo. Scoo.

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