wellRED podcast - BUBBA SHOT: "Love Can Build A Bridge"

Episode Date: May 6, 2022

Today we are featuring the last hit Naomi Judd penned before semi-retiring in the early 90s. RIP lady, you will be missed. 

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dot com slash well read today that's rocket money.com slash well r e d rocketmoney.com slash well read and we thank them for sponsoring this episode of the podcast. They're the above a shot the podcast. Today's episode is dedicated to the memory. Today's episode is dedicated to the memory of Naomi Judd. I would imagine that most people who listen to this show know already, but if you don't, it would appear that they only chose to take her own life this week. This episode is not about her life, it is about one song, in keeping with the format, and that song's from the 90s. And I want to give a little bit of a trigger warning. We don't really talk a lot about suicide, and we don't make jokes about suicide, but we do make jokes about this song. We do

our job as comedians. We address it honestly. I just want to let people know. And I think that, well, I was going to say, I think that's what Naomi would have wanted. I have no idea if she would have wanted that or not. I don't know why people say stuff like that. I don't know what Naomi would have wanted. What I do know is that we love our people and we love country music. We love Naomi Judd. We love this culture. And our people, just like any people on earth, hurt. So if you're hurting reach out to somebody talk to somebody about it and enjoy this episode if you can because that's what i want you to do whatever anybody else wants um we love you guys rest in peace now with judd you were truly a queen

Welcome to Bubba Shot the podcast. First, the facts. Love can build a bridge. It's a song released in 1990. It was the second single and track title from the Judd's album of the same name. It was a top five country hit in 1991 and won a Grammy in 1992. I'm still not sure how that works, but that's what went down. It's been covered numerous times.

It might have taken a while to get this video together. It might have. Please, everybody. Go watch, Jesus, if you've never done it before, go watch the video for this song right now because it's going to come up a lot, but we'll get back to it later. It's been covered by Cher, Chrissy Hind, Nanette Sherry, Eric Clapton, among other people.

He even charted it in 95. It's the perfect late 80s, early 90s song, which we will get into. And before we get into why we're doing it, what we're doing it, I want to cover her co-writers. Naomi Judd, rest in peace. wrote this song with Paul Overstreet and John Barlow Jarvis. I want to cover our co-songwriters

because once we get into Naomi, who, as I'm sure everyone is aware, and if you're not, passed away this week, once we get into her, I don't want to, like, circle back to these guys. So just, we're going to go a little bit out of order. Paul Overstreet is a big-time songwriter. You guys, he may sound bad.

vaguely familiar to y'all, depending on how drunk you were, because he also wrote, She Thinks My Tractor's Sexy, an episode of Bubba that we will never hear that version of again because we lost it to the ether. I did. I'll take credit. I lost it. Don't blame yourself. And y'all are really missing out, let me tell you. And we talked about how Overstreet, my favorite fact about him is that he has two sons, Nash and Cord. Nash Overstreet, who's a guitarist for the pop band Hot Chili Ray, and Coeur. who played Sam Evans on Glee.

Oh, tremendous. Yeah, but he is a big-time songwriter, won a bunch of awards. He's got hits with Randy Travis. We also covered him on the God song, Trey hated, about having a kid, but being God's kid, too. Blake Shelton, Keith Whitley, and, as I said, Kenny Chesney. The other one, John Barlow Jarvis, just want to give him credit real quick.

What a great name, first of all. he's a piano player signed on as a session player with I've lost it but some record company when he was 17 he's played on albums with Ringo Star Air Supply John Cougar Mellencamp Garfunkel Stephen Bishop Rod Stewart Just Garfunkel Stevie Nix, bad company, share

But he also wrote a bunch of songs And he wrote songs, he wrote hits for Waylon Jennings Conway Twitty Kenny Rogers and Dolly Parton. He wrote Vince Gill's biggest hit and won a Grammy for it. I still believe in you. And he also won a Grammy for this song. I didn't have a lot of interesting stories about those guys.

I just wanted to note that they are Grammy-winning songwriters. They worked with Naomi. They obviously respected her as an artist. She's got a co-write on this. My understanding is it was her idea to do a song like this. And that gets into, to me, what her greatest talent was, which is reading the zeitgeist. Go watch this video and listen to the song right now.

This song came out right around the time that Farm Aid was just kind of... I was kind of jokingly say, like, so what famine in Africa were they trying to solve with this song? Because it sounds like... It's very, we are the world. We are the world. Like very live aid. So was this an AIDS song?

It has been used as a AIDS song. But you know what I mean. It has been used as such. But my understanding is no. Tyler Mayhenko has posited the theory on cocaine and rhinestones that almost all country music is pop music six or seven years later with an accent. That every decade is just kind of hearkening back to the pop that is starting to, you know, get over on rural people six years after it, you know, comes out.

Well, we are the world came out in 85. This song came out in 1990. And what I'm giving Naomi credit. it for. I've called Naomi Judd the Chris Kardashian of country music, both in terms of how she created her family and made them famous, but also her ability to do PR, to work the game, work the system. She did what Chris Kardashian did, frankly, with more talent but less resources, and I think that this

song is absolutely one of those. Country music just didn't have one yet. They didn't have a cause, but they needed a hit. And buddy, she got in a studio with two matches. and they pinned one. Did you say where this landed on the charge? I know you did with... Top five, didn't you say? Top five and 91.

Yeah, I think it was four was where it ended up at. I don't think... This is surprising. I don't think I've ever heard it. Really? Uh-uh. I really don't. I mean, it might have been one of those that, like,

I was born in the background or something, but I didn't really recognize it. I didn't recognize the video. No, Damshur didn't recognize the video. No. We want to be clear that we want to be... be as respectful to Naomi Judd and her legacy, which is unmatchable. And this song,

I don't necessarily love it, but I think it's a masterpiece in terms of what it was. She sent down to write a song like Live Aid, and it worked, and it made her a lot of money. This video is the worst video I've ever said. It's okay to say, maybe you already said your intro, but like, I mean, we picked this song to commemorate her passing, and this is a 90s country podcast, and this is the only The hits she had in the 90s. The only hits she had in the 90s, our hands were kind of tied. But, yeah, certainly didn't factor in the video in making that decision.

I don't know if I can call it the worst video about the time. It's kind of hip for me. I think it's better than Reba's. Here's why it's the worst. It's because it's not awful like Reba's. Like, it's so close to being good. Do you know what I'm? It's beautiful.

And it's not the worst concept in the world. and it is executed so fucking poorly. As soon as it started, and it was Indians walking through the desert, any country music video that starts with Indians walking through the desert, I'm like, I'm in. I'm in, here we go. Here we go.

And then them two Indians turned into a eagle and a wolf, respectively. In the first 20 seconds. Yeah, and then I was like, I'm double in now. We got, this is some real Indian shit that got going on. Speaking of Indians. Yeah. Bam bam, bam,

bam, boom. Oh, my God. God. I know it's a two-star. Here's where we are. I know you probably don't know.

What the fuck is this video? First of all. Well, first of all, Tushar, we got to tell you why. Did y'all turn into eagles or is it? Now,

elephants. With seven wings. Yeah. No, they turn into doctors. Um, yeah. Listen, Tushar, the reason you may miss it because you're also not in the world that we exist in.

We're doing this song today because Naomi, one of the songwriters and the older woman in the video, is dead. Okay, she, it seemingly committed suicide the night before she was supposed to be inducted into the country music Hall of Fame. And a day before Mental Health Awareness Month starts, which is relevant because this woman did a lot of work with, mental health awareness. She walked the walk. Please don't make a joke too sharp. You know it was there. But what we were just kind of laughing about,

even if we were trying not to, is like, we picked this song for that reason because it was the only hit she had in the 90s. She was an 80s and 70s star. And the songs, I don't like it necessarily, but it's good for what it is. Like it's a come-together song.

It was a hit. people who are into that shit love it, but the video. Yeah. I mean, I think it's the worst video of all time. Or the best. Trade is agrees with me. I'm saying, like, dude, this video didn't hit for you at all. I genuinely think it's better than the nights the light went out in Georgia.

Yeah. It's, to me, it should be, what bothers me about it, all right, Trey was talking about, Tushar, how you got these two Indian fellers in the day, desert, speaking Indian, and then they turn into an eagle and a wolf. And they metamorphose. It's just like, you know. The ring of fire. Yes.

Which was, by the way, the worst ring of fire that you could, like that. It's so funny because I know that it's like, look, man, the technology was different back then, but me not being any type of professional videographer, at least the transitions, on my phone, I can make them better than them shits. Well, it's also like, yeah, I know it was the 90s, but I remember cartoons from the 90s and they look better than that. Yeah. So up until that, I'm with you, Trey. It's

racist, but it's the entertaining kind of like, yeah. You know, like you made mall. You know what's funny. Then it just got bad. After that, like, that's what disappointed me. Keep me going with that. Let's have a fucking powell. Let's smoke a peace pot. Let's

have a sweat lodge. Let's keep this bullshit amalgamation of what we think Indians are going. We went away from that entirely. There's two bitches on a rock. Why did they turn into an eagle slash wolf? So they could see the world. He said, how is the world today?

And he said, we must look for ourselves. And the only way they could see the world, of course. The eagle I get, but the wolf, I mean, I know they're faster than we are. Right. But if you can turn into an eagle, do that. You ain't covering all that much ground. Plus, like, they're still out in the desert. That's not the whole world.

But, I mean, you know, and dens will be endens, I guess. They're going to, they're going to turn into animals. now and again, you will have that. Also, they look like they're about to fuck right here. And that's mother-daughter. That was what I was about to say. I was going to ask you guys, when this clip came up, my stupid warped porn-addled brain was like, oh, they're about to kiss.

Yeah, I definitely thought that. Well, that's not, you said two Wimmern's on a mountain, so I wanted to bring it up. But let's get back to the video in general. So, Trace Lopped us through the first part. Well, I want to give my quick comment on the very first part because I couldn't tell. I thought it was a white man and a cowboy hat at the beginning. I couldn't tell it was just. You thought it was George Strait.

I thought it was George Strait. And then I saw his like his, for lack of a better term, slave behind him. And I was like, oh, this is about loving his slaves. Guys, he didn't have a better term. His son or buddy, his employee, his intern. He had a lack of a better word. He couldn't. There were none.

But then it revealed that he's like, there's like a father-son thing or something going on there. But it was an elder thing, one of the number one Indian stereotypes that we, you know, use. And again, she's got to have a young brave. Again, it was problematic, but it was like. Like, holy shit, I forgot how wild the 90s were problematic. Yeah, it looked like an opening to fucking Walker, Texas Ranger. And then it gets like surprisingly woke, but in the cheesiest way. Did you notice that?

Much like how the white guy was the back were with this whole thing. We are the world. Yeah. Like you said, it's very we are the world. It's just like the country music version of that. And then, yeah, the whole rest of the video is just like, see, black people and white people can be on a farm at the same time. as long as one of them's an eagle.

Yeah. They can play football together. And then can be there as long as he's a wolf and nobody knows it. But yeah, it's just people just like smiling at each other and shaking hands and stuff. And they got to be different colors to really sell the point. Can't have two white people shaking hands because then it's like, did they just buy them? That means a land deal. We got the railroad.

They also. had a black cowboy. They did. 1990 black cowboy, you know, it's like, okay. But that's my, that's, this is my problem with the video.

That's the only way that let them on CMT though, you know. Yeah. Yeah. Let me ask you this. Cowboy. Let me ask you this. Look at how diverse the kids playing football were.

That is a 2009 move making, you know, like that casting call even. I can't believe, I genuinely can't believe they did it. But, but again, I would be,

with you if it wasn't like that's literally the whole point of what they're doing with the song and with everything is like, it's just, it's very cum by y'all, let's all come together type shit.

Well, so if they're doing that, they're going to have like, you know, a community college textbook version of diversity going on in the fucking video or whatever because they got to sell the message. I'm not mad that they cast it like it was a new show on ABC. I'm mad that

They did that while also being racist towards Indians while standing out. It's just a wild thing that's happening. You know football is from the Native Americans. I thought that was lacrosse. Is it football? Cross 100% is. No, football as well. Okay.

Which is a nice little side jab in the whole thing. I love it. There's no way the director knew that. There's no way this director knew anything about Indian. that I don't know. Yeah, right. Right. Right.

I've forgotten more about Indians than this motherfucker's ever known. No. No, this dude's just like, where's all the turquoise, God damn it? Yeah. Nowhere near enough feathers. These dreams need to be caught. I've been dreaming every night. Something might right.

All these Indians around and yet I remember my dreams. What's going on here? Don't hit. No. I don't trust them. I mean, maybe I'll make peace with them. The director of whoever made this film, like these were decisions that were, had to be planned out well ahead.

And this video should have been, this could have been a romantic tale. You know, like the video could have just been about a boy and a girl kind of going through their things. But that's back to what I've been saying the whole time is it's like

love will build a bridge, right? It could just be a love song, but like clearly it's meant to be like we are the world of like type of deal. And so if they're going to, if that's what's, they're going for, which they are, they're not going to, you know, just do a love story thing.

But also, it's like the, what they're doing with the Indians here is it's like, you know, it's like, see, Indians are pure and they know how the world should be, right? And really, we've been disappointing the Indians with our bullshit for far too long. You saw that one cry in that commercial two years ago, 1990, you know, or whatever. Didn't they find out he was Italian? Yes, he's 100% Italian. Ain't even a little bit Indian. But he thought he was Indian for the first little bit of his life

because his parents lied to him like so many of us in the world. Well, yeah, you'll have that. And learned a bunch about it and, like, got involved. And then found out he was Italian. And it was also a shock to him. And a lot of Indians loved that guy because he, like, tried to get other Indians work in Hollywood. Like, he was like, well, I've already invested, you know,

a lot of my life into being an Indian for 20 years. He just wrote it out and is, like, apparently really cool with the Indians. Right. Well, that's, all right. Well, that's cool. Yeah, you know, like, Indians were like, what am I trying to say? It's like, this is the example that what, you know, who knows how to live? Or like, you know who could show us the way as Indians?

You know who we need to be better? You know who we need to be better for as Indians? Model minority. And I feel like that's what they're doing in this video. 100%. I have a theory on how that went down. I have nothing to back it up. but before I get into it, let me go over some of these lyrics.

And Tushar, we didn't, you weren't on here when we talked a little bit about this. I don't know how I'm going to rate this song. I genuinely haven't decided. But this song is, in my opinion, a masterpiece in a genre I hate. And the genre that I hate is the live aid, farm aid, let's all come together genre. And she wrote this song, my understanding it was her idea, about five years after that whole trend started. There was no cause for the song to be attached to. She just decided country music needed one and it would be a hit.

She was completely right about that. What her talent was was that, reading the temperature of the culture. She, again, she's Chris Kardashian. So she pins this song. Here's the song. I gladly walk across the desert with no shoes upon my feet. To share with you the last bite of bread I had to eat. I would swim out to save you in your sea of broken,

dreams. When all your hopes are sinking, let me show you what love means. Love can build a bridge between your heart and mine. Love can build a bridge. Don't you think it's time? Don't you think it's time? Before we move on to the next bit of lyrics, the point that I was trying to make is this is the only music video the Judd's ever put out. Really? Really? Yep. Winona put them out by herself, but they split right after this album. I don't think Naomi had time and maybe energy

to figure this medium out. And I'm going to give her a little bit of credit for coming closer than a lot of people would in 1990 with a video in country music like this. I don't think you should get credit for casting a black kid, shaking hands with a white kid,

but I don't think anybody else would have done it in 1990. You sure shit didn't see no black kids in the Indian. outlaw music video. I know how this is going to sound considering again, and I can't stress this enough, two Indians turn into animals at the very beginning of this movie. But having said that, I really feel like when you've got the song, the farm aid type of song that they've got, and that's there, I sort of feel like this video writes itself. It's just a matter of where you're going to, where you're going to put a mountain, what kind of mountain? A desert mountain or green. Let's go

desert mountain because Indians desert the whole thing just plays better. You know, like, do you know what I mean? Yeah, to be part of the... I agree. I'm like, what else were they going to do other than have like white kids and black kids hugging

each other and stuff in a video like this? Having the Indians be animals was certainly a choice. But like... But like, they did a bad job with the stories. Like, that guy comes there to that house of... We're meant to think that they're poor people, but they

clearly live in the fucking Grand Canyon. And he gives him a 20, and then he starts putting his finger in his chest, and then a little girl just holds hands. And then the other scene is they're playing football. We don't know why they're mad, and a white girl tells them to stop fighting. And then the other scene, the boss comes and yells to Cowboys, and then he brings him water. There's no development of those stories that wrote some jokes.

Yeah. You track the narratives more than I did. here's one type of person here's another type of person eventually they're going to be all right with each other I would review that I'm trying to show this video but we've called it now

you two have film movie and narrative three words I would not have thrown at it is bookended because at the end they turned back it's almost like a dream escape yeah it's Indian yeah well it's like they went out

and saw, they were like, what's going on in the world today? And then they came back and they're like, two white bitches are just saving it. And they're like, well, that's nice. Two white bitches got everybody singing on a mountain right now, Eagle Daddy. And he's like, no shit. I'm going to be okay. I forgot about how they all literally sing together on the mountain. They do.

They all sing together on the mountain at the end of it. Which is the whole end of the video of the farm aid live aid thing. Like, remember Bob Dylan was super fucked up? That was a thing on VH1. If you zoom in on Bob Dylan, he's too fucking. up to be there. Why don't? Don't you,

do you think one of them was just like, hey, what you say we just keep being an eagle? Right. You know what I'm saying? I bet they aren't allowed. I don't want to get to. Let me take this one.

There's a time limit. You think they ever go in like, they only do it in shifts. Let me take the wolf one ever goes and gets like some, some wolf pussy or anything. That just comes back to the, to the, to the

this is a prequel the movie Avatar they were doing it first for years I mean would you if you could if you could turn into an eagle

and or a wolf would you try to fuck an eagle and or wolf I don't think you got to literally be the reason I do it yeah right I don't want to eat

raw deer yeah right no I don't do that yeah well I mean, flying would hit. I appreciate that your mind goes straight to fucking something. Eagle pussy.

And you're like, what other reason could you possibly ever want to be an eagle? And it's like soaring above the fucking earth. Yeah. That would also hit. I'm one of the she wolf and I am the eagle lady. I'm not attracted to birds. Yeah. You're a horseman.

I've seen some handsome cardinals. Horses are beautiful. That's why we don't eat them. They're too sexy. All right. can't get over this goddamn video. I think it ruined the song. It does ruin the fucking song.

It's the worst video of all that. It makes the song better. Exactly. It's the salt. It's the salt of the song. It don't hit, but it does hit. Does it really not hit for y'all? It does.

It hit for me. The part you talked about, as soon as they turned into the wolves and eagles, everything after that sucked. I loved that part. I'm not trying to be too, There's some music. There's some music.

And then they start singing on mountains and little girls have flowers in their hands. And I'm like, I literally don't know what's going on right now. Where's the wolf? Yeah, this is a, this song, this video might have to be supplemented with peyote or some kind of mind-altering. That'd be wild. Yeah. But maybe it was meant for that. Let's get back to the lyrics.

I would whisper, again, remember. Remember, this was pinned by a woman whose mental health overtook her this week, and we're just really, it's a beautiful song. I would whisper love so loudly every heart could understand that love and only love can join the trials of man. I would give my heart's desire so that you might see. The first step is to realize that it all begins with you and me. Love can build a bridge. Between your heart and mine, love can build a bridge. Don't you think it's time?

Don't you think it's time? I genuinely think that in 1990, I'm not going to say it was new, but in country music, the first step is to realize that it all begins with you and me. That's a little bit Buddhist. I think that's a pretty fucking impressive line to having a country song in 1990. It's also very Man in the Mirror, Michael Jacksony. Oh, yeah. Probably five years before. Oh, no, that song came out in the 90s, and that video is fucking hilarious, too, because it's when I genuinely thought Michael Jackson, when I first saw that video as a kid, I'm pretty sure it was that video.

video, I didn't know nothing about him and I thought it was a woman because it's just like him and his long ass hair and like a box fan just a box fan just flow, you know, he's just doing this shit. So yeah, this era was ripe with with this type of shit. Yeah. AIDS, farms. Yep. And country music wasn't really getting in on it other than Naomi. And I really like that line. Man in the mirror is just about like bettering yourself.

Yeah, but it's like it's starting with, I've got to start with the man. In order for the world to be a better place, you've got to start with the man in the mirror. And that's kind of what this line was. Like it starts with you and me. Like as long as we all do our own part. And Corey's right, that video did extend it to that. It really did. I remember there were like a lot of kids in the video, didn't realize how creepy.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I guess the rap equivalent will have to be Michael Jackson's song in this case. I don't think there's a rap equivalent to love to build the bridge. Yeah. Changes by Tupac.

Dude, I swear to God in my mind, I was just going, dunna, dunna, dunna, but the whole, but the whole point of changes is I don't see none.

I'll see none. Nothing is. He murders his best friend in the second verse. I appreciate it. His life worth, yeah. Oh, he kills himself in the first bird.

Well, now he got. He knows, he says, he says, he says, is life worth living? Should I blast myself? Should I?

Yeah. Yeah. He leaves it up into interpretation. Yeah. He does fire his gun, though. You might think that that ain't cool, but his mom and doesn't raise no fool, though, so. Oh, I was thinking I ain't mad at.

Oh, he had no choice. My bad. I was thinking I ain't mad at you. That's where he kills his best friend. He don't kill his best friend and changes. It's, I ain't mad at you where he kills his best friend. He's got a couple. I guess changes you could sort of tie thematically to this Judd song.

Yeah. It's like, it's like, things will never be the same. We got a, we need to fix this shit type of thing. And there's, there's,

it's implied with this song that we got shit that needs to be fixed. And they're saying the solution of that is love, love will build the bridge that fixes our shit. And in changes, he's just like, nothing hits. And I wish it was different.

But it ain't though. And, uh, you take that to the bank. And now, 30 years later, show me the line. My fucker's sweating. Yep.

Yeah. Should I finish these lyrics? Yeah. Hell, I reckon. When we stand together, it's our finest hour. We can do anything, anything, anything, anything. Keep believing in the power. Love can build a bridge.

Between your heart and mind, love can build a bridge. Don't you think it's time? Yeah. Yes, I do. Oh, love can build a bridge. Whoa. Love and only love between your heart and mine, between your heart and mine. Love can build a bridge.

Love and only love, don't you think it's time? Oh, don't you think it's time? Eesh. There you go. Are her other songs like this? No. No. No, they're about.

This is a clear difference. They're about trying to get a man or, you know. Yeah. What about stylistically? No. So it's completely just. This was a, I'm telling you, this was. and again, Tyler

Mayhenko has pointed out that this is a big part of what country music does musically. It takes five-year-old pop music and puts an accent on it and maybe a steel pedal in there because now people are used to that type of style. They'll accept it in country music as long as you country it up. She did that, but she also

did it with a theme. Because this theme was going around. Rock and pop was starting to do all these aid songs. We are the world's the prime example, but there were other ones. And the country needed one. I mean, not that they needed one, but there was room for country to have one, and she nailed it. What was We Are the World? What was the thing? Like, was it famine or was it AIDS?

It was farm aid, which was an offshoot of live aid. So that's actually an interesting. That was Willie, right? Yes. What happened with that was Bob Dylan. He actually got slightly misquoted. But they were doing a famine thing for live aid. Live aid had been going on for a while, and it had a different cause every year. that year, I want to say it was 84, Bob Dylan said something like, we're trying to help out these farmers in Ethiopia. That's great. I also wish we could help out all the world's farmers. You know, I got, we got farmers.

All farmers matter. Yeah. Sounds like Bob Dylan. Yeah, a little all farmers mattery. Yeah. He got misquoted as to saying something along the lines of, wouldn't it be great if I could help out farmers at home? he got a lot of flack for that,

even though he didn't quite say it that way. But then Willie Nelson was like, well, he got flack for it, but we should help out farmers at home because at that time in America, a lot of people were losing farms and family farms. So farm aid was born as an offshoot of live aid. And,

wait, I'm fucking up my stories. Is that where we are the world came from, though? I don't know. Live aid. I don't know. That's what I get my... I don't know either. Well, I've been reading all this.

I've got all my age much up, you know. Me too. I've been putting all this in my brain in the last day or two. Look, I don't know. I don't know what it was about. AIDS. Yeah, AIDS. Famine.

At the very end of the video, the only thing that the, I don't know if you saw at the very end, where they turned back from animal to them, and then they're like, you see there's always hope. It was African famine relief. That's what we are the world was for. Sorry, too sure. Go ahead.

No, I was saying at the very end, they're like, you see there's always hope. So, like, the whole story in the video is, I guess, with love, you'll always have hope. My son, I have seen the two white women on the cliff, and I'm telling you, there will be a better tomorrow. I have seen the mountain top. and there's two white bidsies on top slang it so we start out with these two male Indians on the mountain and we got these two white women

on the mountain I mean and also the age difference is basically the same I mean are we should we read into that this is the most that I've ever been like my god they really do look like sisters same you know what I mean like I always knew that was kind of their big thing and that was obviously what Naomi always wanted to go for but like

bruh if you if I didn't know anything about them except for this video. I've been like, here are two fraternal twins, you know, from the same family. And because she looks, you know, not to, not to objectify or anything, but like she looked real good in this video. Well, and also not to insult the dead. And I don't find this insulting, but I know a lot of women think this is insulting. But I tell you, they were fraternal twins.

They had the same doctor. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That knows. Yeah. Go ahead too far. I didn't know much about them. And when I saw the video, I was like, oh, they're just singing partners.

Like, I didn't think that there's a mother-duty. You didn't think they were related? We all already looked the same to you. Haven't we talked about them before on this podcast? We definitely did. Maybe that was one of the other episodes he wasn't there or something. Yeah, did you do. We did one else on Earth.

No one else on Earth. Yeah. Why not a judge? Yeah. I'm an idiot. And we talked a little bit about her mama, but he might have been late that day too. We only talked about her mama up top.

Well, for people who don't know, I'll give a little bit of background because we do have some time to fill. And too sure you can feel free or anybody, but too sure I assume you'll be learning about this for the first time. The reason I called her the Chris, Chris Jenner, I think I said Chris Kardashian,

Chris Jenner of country music is born dirt poor, moved out to L.A. for a little while. tried to make it there, then tried to get into music, had like a couple of husbands who beat on her and beat on the kids, had struggles that most people couldn't fathom, tried to break into music. I was like, I remember this shit now. Oh, oh, this was the bitch that got beat a lot.

Yeah. I tried to break into music for a long time, basically got lucky with someone she used to babysit for, became a producer, and was like, I'll give your demo a listen and gave it a listen and was like, oh, this is actually good. Put them on the roster. Then she had to deal with, you know, men being like, yeah, you can come on tour with me, but I'm going to fuck you, you know, that kind of shit.

Tried to get the career going. Finally did and rose to superstardom as her oldest daughter's voice matured because Winona's got an incredible voice. And then that started to fall apart. as Winona aged and started to realize, hey, my mom's a little crazy. And so she built this empire and then basically lost it all.

And in the meantime, helped her other daughter start and then eventually get over in her film career. I don't know if you're familiar with Ashley Judd, Too Shard. She's not a superstar actress, but she's like pretty A-list. That's all in the same family. And this mom came from, you know, nothing.

And again, they get credit for being wildly talented. I'm not trying to take away anything from Winona and Ashley, but their mother did, you know, push them and create that world. And this was the last hit that she had. From Nashville? Originally they're from Ashland, Kentucky. Lived all over, though, in terms of that story spans California, Mississippi, like they were all over and ended up in Nashville and made it there.

Who is she like? Is there anything one like her? In terms of personality or music? Or like, yeah, like, I don't know, you can pair artists together. Chris Jenner's all I got, because I think that her best talent is knowing how to win in media and entertainment. And I think she has more talent than Chris Jenner. I was about saying, dude, she's more talented than Chris Jenner. Yeah, I mean, she can fucking sing and write and all that shit.

Chris Jenner's extremely adept at that thing that she does. But, yeah, as far as what I recognize as being talent, I would say. Naomi Judge way more talented than she is. She's in between Chris Jenner and Dolly Parton.

She's not as talented as Dolly Parton, but even Dolly wrote a very beautiful tribute to her saying, we are a lot of like

in that we realized that we had a lot to say and we had an artistic viewpoint, but the world was going to see us

as sex objects or whatever else. So maybe Dolly Parton is also a decent comparison. Yeah. And it was his song like redone?

Like cut, Was it covered? Corey sent a message to us That somebody's banging on his door So he'll be right back Um You're sending them messages over there? I ain't seeing him,

Cough, but that's all right. Um, I can go look for him. There they are. Yeah, uh, yes,

Tushar, Eric Clapton, many people covered it. Share. Eric Clapton had a hit with it in 1995. Share covered it. Um, it ended up being,

you know, it made her a lot of, of money. Maybe financially because of the covers, this probably was our most successful song. Mama He's Crazy was covered a lot too. When Corey gets back, we'll give it a rating. To-Shaar,

I feel like it's not unfair this time to say is there a Bollywood equivalent like a We Are the World, a live aid type thing? Yeah, you all had that type of deal. Oh, man. Fight the cows. I should have asked. save a cow ride a cowboy shoot a cowboy um every single week too shard's like guys really i can't

no i'm putting it on us because it's like every week you guys i really cannot stress enough to you uh how much i don't know about this show so please stop asking me well in my defense i haven't asked him in a few weeks because he hasn't been here last week but i haven't asked him in a few weeks i just thought wait a minute, everybody has famine, especially the Indians, you know what I mean? They might not sing about it, you know, that might be a pretty exclusively us thing. Most of the other people when they got famine, they, you know, try to find food or whatever, but we're over here like, we should all get together and sing about it. It'd be good.

Did you got to do a Bollywood version of Les Miserables? Because that might be. I mean, there's a lot of songs about love. And like, it's, the word is bier, and there's like countless numbers, but I can't think of any that have the context of trying to say love is the answer to the world's problems, not just like I'm dealing with love issues. So once again, I need to ask my mama about these things before I jump on with y'all. Well, that's apparently something that is across our cultures,

that we should have asked our mamas. Yeah. And speaking of mamas, I think this is the first mama of country music other than maybe Mama Cash. I love Naomi Judd. You know, I think that she was obviously super, super ambitious, and that caused a lot of strife between her and her daughters. But they were able to forgive each other.

It seemed like they were getting along great in the last few years for the most part. I know that her and Winona were doing reunion tours. They were inducted in the Hall of Fame together. two days ago, one day ago, been on when this came out. So, yeah, rest in peace to a queen. I'm going to give the song two and one-third Earnhardt's.

I consider two-thirds because I do think in terms of what it is, it's up there. It is the country music version of those songs. And I'm going to be honest, the video, we've allowed the video to affect the voting in the past. So I let it affect the voting a little bit here and knock it down. It's not a three because she wrote better songs. Okay.

I would like to go next. Because I disagree fundamentally with one part of that in a major way. And I'll give the song a two out of three Earnhardt's because I agree with everything you're saying about the song. The song, frankly, don't hit from, I'm not going to put this on any playlist. But like you said, it's so clear what it's meant to be. and it like is very well executed and nails that thing so I can't shit on it too much so I can give it a two out three the video I can give a six out of three back I gave two threes back to back and if I was going to let it in for the wolf and a three for the eagle it would it would bring it up a notch or two if anything because the video is all threes baby nothing anytime fucking two Indians turn into two different kinds of animals in the desert within the first 20 seconds of a country music video like it's going to hit her like.

I liked that part. I want it on the record again, that I did like that part, but after that, it got horrific. We will let, but horrific in a, it was,

I don't know, it had a whole one thing. I will let two shard go next. I mean, are we separated the video from this thing? In the past,

we have had videos affect the score, and I was just stating that I might have leaned to in two, based upon how successful the song was and that I think it is a masterpiece inside a genre I hate, which is let's all kumbaya. That's the genre I'm making up right now. Inside the let's all kumbaya genre, this is a masterpiece. And on that alone, I would have gone to in two thirds,

but the video made me lean to in one third. Mostly I was making stuff up. I think I'm, I don't know, I'm confused because the video is just so goddamn confusing, but hilarious at the same time. I got it. And, uh, You called it a film earlier, too, Sharpe. I'll go two, I'll go two and one-third. The song is a little one-dimensional. Yeah. It's just love, love, love, love, love.

And there's no, there's nothing to really follow in the story of the lyrics. You know, so that's kind of that. But the video is like, I guess the lesson to be learned is, you know, storyboard your shit and try to figure it out before because I felt like they just like they had an idea and they went out there with cameras and I don't know let's just figure this out but it wasn't it wasn't not entertaining to that much that's why I didn't dip below it too that's true that's true and I want to reiterate I think Naomi's influence made it better I think it would have been way worse and I think if she'd have had enough time to make five more videos

she'd have figured out that medium too Corey uh yeah so I mean as far as a song goes, I think it's dog shit. But your point that you made is true. Like in this genre of songs, they pulled it off. So like that's what they're going for. They pulled it off. I also despise that. And because of it, it's like, look, this is just heavy-handed, one-dimensional dog shit.

You know, rest in peace, as it were. But, but, but. I'll do respect. I'll do respect. But, but, but, but. But I'm with, I'm with your reviews, man. Come on now. I'm with Trey in that the video transcends the form.

Yeah. And, and. And because I'm only, I've only, the only time I heard the song was with the video. And I had to actually hear your lyrics to determine how I actually felt about the song. Because while watching the video, I was so captivated by the story that the words, the words were ancillary and meant nothing to me. And frankly, it could. have been an instrumental, and I feel like I would have gotten the point better. So because of that, the song is a zero Earnhardt, dog shit, absolute catastrophe.

It should never be heard on radio at all. But the video. I'll do respect. But the video should be projected on the walls of the Senate every fucking day. And because of that, I will give it a two Earnhardt's. All right. That was great. That was wonderful.

I'm not quick enough math. Rest in peace. Yeah, rest in peace. I don't remember everyone's to tally the votes, but we came in around a two and point two. Between two and a third, it's probably two and a third. The two and a sixth? Something like that. Rest in peace, Naomi Judd.

You definitely made country music more interesting. You made great country music. I'm really sorry that, you know, that you didn't beat mental illness. but thanks for that video. All right. Appreciate you. I love y'all. Bye.

Love you all. I love you, bye. I was so shocked to hear about Naomi's passing. Naomi and I were close. We were very similar. We were the same age in both Capricorns. We loved big hair, makeup, and music. I've always loved Ashley, Winona, and Naomi.

They've always been like sisters to me. Congratulations, Wynonna. for you and your mom being inducted to the Hall of Fame yesterday. I'm so sorry I couldn't be there, but I can hear Naomi saying now. Oh, well, a day late and a Dolly Short. Congratulations and condolences are both in order.

Just know that I will always love you. Dolly Parton, Queen Country Music. This is Bubba Shot the podcast. Rest in peace, Naomi. We love you.