wellRED podcast - BUBBA SHOT: "Man! I Fell Like A Woman!"

Episode Date: March 18, 2022

Wanna hear four straight dudes talk about the 90s country drag, trans, and female anthem? Of course you do! Shania Twain's 1997 global phenomenon of a song "Man! I Feel Like A Woman!" capitalized on Twain's crossover pop success and made the singer and bonafide superstar. We discuss the song's undeniability, the wild history of it's writers (Shania and her ex), and have some "fun" with a listener poll!

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slash well read and we thank them for sponsoring this episode of the podcast they're the bumby shot the podcast and that's right a show about country at a time gentlemen welcome to Bubba shot the podcast. I hope y'all feel like a woman. First, the facts. Man, exclamation point. I feel like a woman, exclamation point. It's a song by the incomparable Shania Twain.

It comes from her third studio album. Come on Over. It was written by Twain and her longtime collaborator. And at that time, husband, this is his name, Robert John Mutt, Lang or Lange, who also produced the entire album and came out in 1997. It was the eighth single from the album.

Because the album was a country pop crossover. This one was held back because of some of the twang in it. And they were afraid, Shanaya was afraid, that it would be too country to release in the beginning because she was determined to become essentially a Mariah Carey type figure with this album. I think she came very,

very close to doing that. I'm not sure she completely accomplished it. The song got a Grammy. Best Female Country Vocal Performance. Best Country Song on the album. Come on Over. That song. Sorry, that's the name of the album and the song. It went number one. It was huge. The album was huge. It is the, I want to make sure I read this right. Best Selling Country Music album. best-selling studio album by a female act, best-selling album of the 90s, and the ninth best-selling album of the United States in history. Unreal.

This, arguably the most famous song from it, I would say, is the ninth, or excuse me, eighth single released. Guys, I really don't know where to begin. We've got a lot of stuff to go over today. Shania and Mutt, their story is, wild. The song is great. We put out a little questionnaire that went very ravenly that I will get to. I guess first, let's start where we usually start. Let's go with the lyrics and just jump right in.

The song opens kind of like a rap or something does with almost like a call, like a call and response type thing. Yeah. Let's go, girl. Yeah, it's like it's like a precursor to Beyonce type stuff. I feel like Beyonce'd be doing that. I'm watching the video on YouTube in the comments. Some lady commented is one of the type of comments said, let's go girls is equivalent to Avengers a symbol.

Apparently it's very effective as a call and response, you know. I think so. I think so. women's together and they hear that, they're going to start, you know, hitting. I mean, it sets the tone immediately, you know, boom, let's go, girls. You know, like, there is no doubting that this song is about to be a female anthem. It's right there. And I just want to say, you know, on a meta note, you know, as we celebrated Black History Month with four weeks of George Strait, which hit.

Now we got, we're in Women's History Month for the second week. week, right, Drew? Like, uh, yeah. Yeah. And it's man, I feel like a woman. And who better to discuss the ends and outs of a song like this than us for dudes? Uh-huh. Dude's being bros.

We're given our perspective of 90s country. You know, our choices are don't cover it. Right. Cover it as us. I agree. That's what we're going to do. I'm going to know. It's for me.

I'm all for it. We are going to get to these lyrics, but since we pause there on that call and response type thing, one history, One perspective, what am I trying to say? One aspect of the background of the song that I think is very interesting. He says a lot about Shania. Now, this is a co-written song. A lot of people very cynically claimed in the past that Mutt did most of the work

because we're going to get into his background and his bio. The man is a hitter. For sure. I do. 100%. I don't remember the like full detail, especially of their relationship or know his full resume, but I know that it's extremely impressive. One final note,

and what we're just talking about, though, I pitched that in Asian Pacific Islander month, we kicked Tushar off for four weeks. And then do, uh, just the truth. Well, unless we go back to the pandemic and years start getting longer, we don't have one of those months,

but we'll figure it out. What? Which month? Is there an Asian Pacific Islander month in America? Yeah, definitely. Do I know which month it is? No. I do not.

I'm off the top of my head. but I know that, yeah, they got a month. Yeah, it's November. It's blocked in with Cyber Thursday or whatever. There you go. All right. Well, what I wanted to say is he has. You think they were like, let's give November to the Indians,

and then they got it mixed up. And they were like, yeah. Not those. They can have June. Maybe they, no, maybe more of like a overcorrection, like that great Gaffigan joke about seahorses. and the men giving birth. Yeah.

It was like, let's give November the Indians. Oh, you mean the month where we celebrate Thanksgiving when we actually slaughtered them but pretended we got along with them? No. Not those. The other ones. Other ones. Yeah, that's what November. That's what I mean.

We can do that. I just looked it up. May is Asia, Pacific Island. Oh, well, there you go. Oh, so you didn't even know. I didn't even know. Okay. Well, how would he know?

I don't identify. Let's get back to Shania, Kwan. Okay. Back to Shania. Mut denied that entirely, and everyone working on the record denied that entirely. And with this song specifically, the title and thus the lyrics of the song, were based on Twain's experience working at a resort in Huntsville, Ontario, where she was providing for her brothers and sisters after their parents died in a car crash.

I didn't know that. When she worked there, Chennai Twain. While she worked there, there were a lot of drag performances throughout. the summer and she credits them as the source of her inspiration for this particular song, which is great because I've had at least two drag queens reach out to me in anticipation of this song being on Bubba this week, talking about how it's their go-to and how they've seen so many transcendent performances of it. I've seen this performed in drag and it was a fucking, I mean, it'd be hard to follow,

buddy. Let me say that. The only way that it can be followed is by Lady Gaga. Right. When they wrote the song, Shania's quoted as saying, we had no time to waste on ideas that wouldn't make the album. We thought we were completely done.

I wasn't going to add any more songs. And then Mutt, so funny, had a riff going on his guitar, and the lyrics and phrasing of the title just came out of me. And then from there, like I said, she was inspired by drag queens and they wrote it together.

Now, that's me saying Shania absolutely had her hand in the album and the song and deserves credit for it. Part of the reason people used to wonder if she deserved credit for it is, of course, sexism and misogyny. But the other part of the reason is

Mr. Mutt has produced albums for or otherwise worked with ACDC, Def Leopard, the Boomtown Ramp. Foner, Michael Boatten, The Cars, Brian Adams, Huey Lewis in the News, Billy Oceans, Thelaine Dion, Britney Spears, Maroon 5, Lady Gaga, Nickelback, Ann Mews. The man is a hitter of the producer. Yeah, he dabbles, you know, and some low-key indie artist, it seems. I also just, just because Chenai Twain was a major crossover star in the 90s,

when, as we've discussed many times, the majority of country artists weren't writing their own songs. If you had asked me, what should I, Twain, writing any of those,

I would have said no. For sure. That would have been my son. And no offense to her. Yeah, right, just because that's just how, I just assume,

that's how mostly it worked. Yeah. Yeah. And I think this relationship, though, is more akin to, and maybe we can figure out, I haven't come up with anything.

Yeah, I know we can do this, though. this is this is timbreland and uh missy elli that's the comp that's the comp for me where mutt clearly brought her this is her third album she was a bona fide country star her goal stated out loud before they ever made the record was to cross over to become a maria carry to become an icon and mutt helped her do that as a world-class producer but it's a more of a missy elli timberland uh combination here not him just doing all the work and her being the face.

Yeah, and for the record, like, obviously that was successful because I remember seeing this video a ton, but never on CMT, because I wasn't really watching CMT at this time. It was all, and not MTV either. I watched VH1. VH1 was still, you know, there are another one of those companies that, like, really did used to just do music, you know, and this whole album, like, I'm remembering all the songs on it, like, VH1, VH1, number one, VH1, and this one was, I just remember, immediately recognizing this video because it's a parody of that one from the 80s by Robert

Palmer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Addicted to love. Addicted to love. Right. That's it. And so, I mean, yeah, she achieved the goal of like, I saw all these, but not on any country shit, you know. Well, that was after she had already crossed over.

Let's get into the lyrics. Then we'll get into the video. Then we're going to circle back to all the things we've talked about so far. Let's go, girls. Come on. I'm going out tonight. I'm feeling all right. Gonna let it all hang out.

Want to make some noise, really raise my voice. Yeah, I want to scream and shout. No inhibitions. Make no conditions. Get a little out of line. I ain't going to act politically correct. I only want to have a good time. The best thing about being a woman is the prerogative to have a little fun.

I don't think you can make this song in country music in the 90s. If you're not already a bona fide star who is openly trying to cry. crossover. And I also think, though, that that's why she saved this for her eighth single. I don't think you can say all this in 90s in country music on your first single. Right. Yeah, you need a little bit of grace, I guess, because it's not really written like a traditional country song. It's more written in like the hilted kind of rap bars, really, just line, line, line. I think you need the grace. I also think you need to have crossed over on the pop charts, which she has done by this point in her career with this album,

with the first seven singles a little bit, to feel comfortable with it. You put this out going, it may bomb on CMT, it may not get play on country radio, I don't need them anymore. And that is what happened for the record. At first,

country music radio did not want to play this song because they argued it wasn't a country song. Once it became such an undeniable hit, It kind of didn't matter. We've talked about that recently on Well Red with Little Noss X. You know, if you make a hit, that kind of got to play you. Yeah, I mean, I, you know, I was thinking while watching the video and, you know, relisten to, of course, you know, I mean, this song's ubiquitous.

I know every word of it. But still watching it and re-listen to it right before we started, I thought, like, you know, it's definitely, definitely like a hybrid or a crossover. type of jam, you know what I mean? Like, and I know that that was the whole point of it, but I'm saying it's not, like, when you said at the beginning, they held it back because it had like too much. Whatever you said about, they thought it had too much twang in it.

I was like surprised to hear that because when I was watching, I was like, this is when she was well into the stage of like, you know, twang transitioning. Yeah. So great fact about that. I'm glad you brought that up. They pulled the twang out. Mut reproduced it once the,

the writing was on the wall that she had achieved her goal of beginning to cross over. He remixed it, pulled the twang back. I don't know how. I don't know if he had her come back in the studio. It wasn't clear for my research if that meant you come redo this take or I'm going to manipulate your voice or whatever and made it more of a pop song before they put it out. And then also related to that, it is the lead song on the first edition of the album in the United States. So when you play

the album, if you got the first edition of the United States, it's the first song. I may have this backwards. Maybe it was the A song then, and then when it got released internationally, now it's the lead song. So they were cognizant of this, and it was like they were playing both sides of the hand there a little bit.

You know, like, hopefully this works. If it don't, this will be a country hit. Right. Well, it worked. Fuck it. This is a pop song. What do you guys, what do you mean by twang. Is that in the music or in the actual singing?

It would mostly be in the singing, but you can put it in the music too with banjos. Banjos are considered twangy. And then there's certain ways to play guitar and still pedal, which doesn't really apply to Chennai's album as far as I remember. But just to answer your question, still pedal is considered twangy. How we talk is twangy? How we talk is twangy. I mean, the word twine, twang.

It's like an onomatopoeia almost. Twang. Twang. This is fun. We should have an ethno-musicalologist on here. Did I say that academic thing, correct? I don't know what it is, so sure you said. It's like an anthropologist, but specifically for music.

Oh, yeah, I'm before that. Yeah, they'd probably be boring. We're not even going to have a woman on for this episode. I have a doctor on for anything else. Any of them. No. No, head. Well, let's get back to this.

We might more about just saying stuff. Yeah, we think. Not learning stuff. That's true. Man, I feel like a papal. Let's go back to these lyrics. As Corey already alluded to, this is definitely rap bars more so than a country song. It's also right out of the gate making a specific stance.

Now, at the time in interviews, what Chennai would say about it, and this is very, I think this has to be very clever. I don't think anyone at her level is this dumb. But what she would say is, well, I just think the best thing about being a woman is that you're allowed to have fun and like, you know, do whatever you want. And I like being looked at. I like being pretty. and I don't care if feminists disagree with me.

Now, obviously, saying, I don't care if feminists get mad at me for saying I'll do what I want, belies no understanding of feminism. Right. Yeah, and also, like, I don't know from the best thing about being a woman is that you're allowed to have, to me, to me, especially at this time in the world, it doesn't seem like women were just, women have never really been allowed to have the same type of fun

that boys and men do. So I'm happy that she has that mentality, but that doesn't really seem like something a woman would feel. I think it was a total political play or PR-type play. This song, at least in the first verse, is very much about going out and doing whatever you want. There is an indication that that means sexually. Right.

Now, in the pop world, even in the 90s, that was fine. It was starting to be fine, and that was good in girl power. In country, you can't do that. So saying, but what you can absolutely do in country, what we have been doing in country since at least the 60s, and we'll continue to do is say, we don't give shit what these elite coastal people think. We do it our way.

And I feel like this was her saying, look, I realize some so-called feminists don't want me to look pretty when I go out at night, because that's not what women are supposed to. to do according to feminists. You're supposed to work and be a professional, but I like looking pretty and going out, which gets the country girls on her side. Yeah.

Fuck yeah. We like staying at home and going to church and being told what to do. And then we look pretty. It's like, again, she's playing both sides. I personally think it's on purpose and brilliant. Yeah, I mean, I definitely don't falter for it. I hope I didn't come off as that, but, you know. Too sure.

Where are you thinking about that? I mean, yeah. It's about hoarder. It's about hoarder. I love it. It's about London 3. I mean, it is certainly a marker of women's independence. I mean, the fact that you can get away with something like this.

But the reason it's so awesome is because she's so goddamn hot. I'm saying. Between her and Faith Hill, you're just like, wow. Like, I remember she, when I saw Shania, Twain in the cover or album cover or something. I'm like, she is perfect. I had to a woman. Yeah, she's a woman.

But yeah, this song was like, I was going to say before you mentioned, it seems like a transsexual, transsexual person's anthem. Like, it just makes a lot of sense, just the title itself. Also, like, bachelette parties or anything where women are trying to just have a good time. But more importantly, like, when I was growing up,

As you all know, I don't, I didn't really wasn't in the weeds of country music. This song transcended all that. Yeah. Mainly because of probably the radio airplay and because it kind of went to the masses. But also it's a catchy-ass song where you can sing along with, you know, it's like, it's almost like a child, children's song. So it has all these elements of like hotness and freedom, this and that. But beyond all that, just the beat and the hook is so goddamn catchy. Well, the hook is all her and it's so catchy.

The beat seemingly was mostly her ex-husband Mutz. And you go back to some of those artists I listed. Lady Gaga, Maroon 5, ACDC, Def Leopard, Forerner, the Cars, Huey Lewis in the News. This guy has a penchant, clearly, for big, rhythmic, those things that work or whatever. It sounds more Def Leopard than it does probably anything else with the kick drum in the back and the... And Marine 5. Yeah, yeah, for sure. But, like, I, you know, I guess my point is, like, I could see people here in this song that were not familiar with Chenai Twain, and it never crossing their mind, I'm listening to a country song right now.

Right. And we're going to hopefully eventually get into some of the other songs on this album, because it is a monster of an album. You could say that about a lot of the songs. His goal was to cross her over, or her goal was to cross over. His goal, musically, was to help her achieve that. and he did. But yeah, you're touching on it. It was ubiquitous.

Then it's still ubiquitous. I hear that riff. All the time. And I know what it is. All the time. It's all over TikTok. It's in commercial still. Like that one's going to outlive her and everybody.

The first commercial that I remember, do you remember the Chevrolet truck commercial that was, it was meant to be ironic? Now, it's probably, if it's not offensive, it's creeping up to the line offensive at this day and age. But in the late 90s, it was in a Chevy truck commercial.

And the whole joke was that these tough guys in the Chevy truck, you know, they feel like women. Uh-huh. I don't know if I remember that. What was Chevy doing with that? You know what I mean? I'm saying in the 90s, if you're in the truck game, you're trying to sell,

it's like, the way you described it makes it sound like, hey, these gay sure make a lot of money, huh? These dual incomes. Well, first of all, first of all, Well, pardon me, it was 2004. I don't know if that changed anything for you. I mean. I don't know that changed anything.

I feel like I'd need to do it. You know who else moves furniture a lot? I just feel like usually truck commercials, you know, they're like, yeah, you got a lot room in here for shovels and hammers and stuff. And it's truck. You need extra room for your dick and your balls. Your big balls can fit in this truck. As I recall, that was sort of like. they were trying to like play on.

You know what I mean? Yeah. Okay. It was a group of guys in a truck and the song comes on and it was them all pretending not to know it around each other. Right, right, right, right. You know what I mean? Yeah.

So it was just a joke. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. No, that, yeah, that hits. But, yeah, I mean, it's Chevy. They're not going to make a bad commercial. Yeah, right.

A rock. All right. Well, let's get back to, I see, should we go back to the lyrics? Let's bring up the music video. Let's talk about it. I'm going to do a screen share and not hit play on this, but show an image of the Robert Palmer video that Corey alluded to. Now, here we have Palmer in his suit.

This came out before. He did two of these. Addicted to Love is the direct comparison because it's black and white. What's his other hit? Simply Irresistible. Yeah. It had the same exact women doing this basically the same exact thing, but the colors were like pink and bright colors. And he was in a full suit in that.

But those were his two music videos. This one got very popular. Obviously, it was a huge song. And she's parodying it. Damn, I thought I had it pulled up. Let me just do it. What if they were just knocking it out on the same day? You know what I mean?

Yeah. I mean, bring some different colors for them. And we'll just line them up, knock it out back to back. I did not find any evidence of that, but that's a funny theory. Maybe it is. Now you can see. He seems fiscally responsible, Robert Palmer. Yeah, for sure, for sure.

If you put in this, let me suppose it so we don't get in trouble. Look at those fucking Jimmy Garoppolo motherfuckers back there. Yeah, on the note of the gender, well, yeah, the gender bending thing, it does. Yeah, right. Hussar said 100% completely makes sense that this is a huge drag show song. of course it is, but like, it seemed very self-aware about it, or maybe it's just because of the parody of the Robert Palmer video,

or it's both or whatever, but these, it had to be crossed in my mind. Yeah. Beef cakes, these hunks they got backing her up in this video. Wear her makeup. Very clearly wearing makeup.

And they've got a little bit of androgyny going on, which is another ballsy move for even a crossover country song in the 90s. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. And it's hard to tell. To me, it's a witch came first as a chicken egg question. It's did this director or whoever conceived of this video concept,

did they say, let's parody Robert Palmer and then therefore let's put him in makeup. Oh, that works. It kind of has double meaning. Or did they say, let's put hot dudes in makeup because, man, I feel like a woman. Damn, you know what? You know what just starting to look like, you know? Yeah. Right. I don't know.

Yeah, I definitely think there was a lot of conversations where like, hey, that's a feature, not a bug. Because somebody was like, hey, it kind of looks like cross-dress and stuff. And it's like, listen, it's a crossover. Like, it's going to be big with these people. Like, I'm telling you, just like, yes, there's going to be the Jerry Falwells of the world who have a disagreement about this. But fuck them. We lost them a long time ago. Let it ride.

Did you say, did you find anything like that, or? I didn't. And I think it's kind of controversy. They weren't watching music videos, is my theory. and they were fine with Shaniya singing about being a woman. And it's like that thing where they didn't dive into the lyrics. You know what I mean? That's my theory on it.

Because she doesn't say anything explicit. It's all hinted at. Of course. Those people are idiots. Well, it's hinted at in some ways. Let's get right into it. Let's get right into the chorus, which we have it done. Real quick.

Is the subtext for the hunky gentleman in the background? singing is that even men feel like women? Is that the, is that what's kind of what we were just talking about, like, is it that? Or are they just trying to parody a video where he used women as background dancers because that's what men are allowed to do? So she's making a statement with the video. I, as a female performer, will simply have hot people in the background who clearly aren't an actual band.

I don't know, which is it? You know what I mean? I think they just knew it was all open to interpretation and was going to get a lot of people talking and that's buzzed baby right um let's get to these lyrics and talk about what y'all were just getting at um oh oh oh go totally crazy forget i'm a lady men's shirts short skirts short skirts really go wild yeah doing it in a style oh oh oh getting the action feel the attraction color my hair do what i dare oh oh oh i want to be free you had to feel the way I feel.

Man, I feel like a woman. Now, you got the first verse going out, making noise, raise my voice. I'm not going to act politically correct. I'm getting out of line. You couple that with this one. I mean, it's a bit racy for a music song. The next verse we're going to get into is a little more just like girls want to have fun. fun in general.

But this verse and this course, it feels pretty sexual. Or maybe we're just a couple of bro dudes who think everything like that. Well, I mean, I don't know. Like, to me, the, when you say man shirt, short skirts, like to me, the implication of that is like,

you know, most of the time when a girl wears a dude's shirt, that's because she just got plowed and put it on, you know, when she went, like, I'm just, I'm, man. I feel like a plowing. And, well, I mean, I guess it could just be just like cutting loose at a bar and drinking and that type of stuff too. But like the forget I'm a lady thing, you know, I mean, that's clearly like, you know, ladies are certain way ladies are supposed to act all prim and proper and all that shit.

And I'm throwing out out the window to get plowed. Pull my dick out. But I would totally buy anyone taking the interpretation of, no, it just means like we're not allowed to. be loud at a bar. Right. And we're going to be. And that ain't got shit to do with y'all. Like, you think it's all about you.

It's not about getting laid. It's not about that. It's that we're going to go to a bar, just us, blah, blah, blah. It has a little bit of a, we're not going to take it. Like, get away from me. I don't. But it's weird because it's anti, it's so pro-woman. It's anti-man, but they make references to men.

And the song makes references to men in its own way. It was still the 90s. Yeah, right. Two stars over here. It didn't pass the Bechtel test. I don't even know what that is. What is that test? It's where two women talk about, it's for movies and television.

Two women have to talk about something that's not a man. Other than a man. Yeah. Or like a problem resulting from a man. Anything man related. Two women talk about anything at all that in no way involves a man. and a massive amount of media do not pass that. The vast majority of them do not pass that test.

It's so far. It literally never happens. You know, in like a two-hour movie, not one time. No. Do two women talk about something? There's never. Two lady scientists just chopping it up. And if it is, it's about how they're both in love with the head male scientist.

Or at the best, they've got to fix this problem that a man created. that over in because it has a lot of power. Yeah. I mean, at least they got their own month, you know? You don't get that shit just like that. That's true. You'd earn it. All right, let's get back to this.

The girls need a break. Tonight we're going to take the chance to get out on the town. We don't need romance, see? Oh, God. We only want to dance. We're going to let our hair hang down. And then we get back to the same exact chorus. And now I'm arguing the same chorus.

Totally crazy. Forget him a lady. Men's shirt, short skirts, really go wild, do it in style, get in the action, feel the attraction, color my hair, do what I dare. I want to be free. Feel the way I feel. I feel like a woman. Couple with this, the girls need a break. Tonight we're going to take the chance to get out in the town. We don't need romance. We only want to dance. We're going to let our hair hang down. Now I'm leaning more towards this thing got shit to do with a man. That's the whole point. Yeah. We're dancing with each other because women be doing that. I love to do that. Well, and we talk about on here when we have a song like this that's designed to be a pop hit, it is important that you write it for every type of person who could be into it. So you want girls who are tired of their damn man and we're just going out with the girls, and you want whores.

You want them all singing it. Yeah, I'm now starting to think maybe it isn't about being plowed. It's funny that's the primary debate that four of us are having about this song. No, pretty sure she just wants to be a plowed. cloud. That's what this is mostly about. That's how I've always interpreted it anyway. I really think it could be about something else. We're like, I don't know. I don't know. What else would it be about? I'm going to need plenty of evidence to overturn. I was like, we're going to get so problematic on this so quickly. But I thought it was going to be

about mutt doing all the actual work. I think I thought that and headed it off. And I was like, well, we got through that pretty good. I think we're doing good. And then like, Literally the next topic, I was like, yeah, I think it is about her getting plowed. Well, anyway, there's another, is there another verse? Or they just repeat it. No, they just repeat it. So speaking to getting plow, we plowed through these lyrics, but we have so much to talk about. I don't exactly know where I want to start.

We've covered quite a bit of the music video. I think the next thing to get to, I have to talk about this. It's only barely related to the song, but it's so wild and so pop star-esque. I mean, this happened on Oprah, and I didn't know that. I guess I was either too young or just not enough into Oprah stuff in the 2000s. I bet. It was that. Shanaa Twain, this launches her. Man, I feel like a woman becomes an anthem.

It is in TV shows, commercials, movies. It's covered by huge people. It becomes one of those songs. We all know it. Her and her husband are madly in love. So she thinks. She is on vacation, an extended one, it ends up becoming a place they buy a house in Switzerland.

Meets a lady who becomes her best friend and assistant. Now, the lady's not working for her for money, because the lady's married to an exec at Nestle. Like she meets her in a part of Switzerland, like in the Alps where you can't even be there unless you're the help. You hit. Oh, right. Unless you or somebody you're very much related to and it's paying for the bills,

super hits. But the lady's like, I'll become your assistant because I have nothing to do and my husband's busy all the time and we're best friends and blah, blah, blah. At some point she confines in this lady. I feel like Mutt as being a dog. He's not acting right.

He's been distant, et cetera, et cetera. She's like, it's all in your head. You're imagining it. Well, of course, she would say that because this bitch is fucking her husband. Yep. She would a pound puppy. Yes.

Now, her name was Anne-Marie, something for me. Nessly? Wasn't Nessly. She was married to an exec, but not the heiress. well, that all comes out because Amarie's man, Nestle exec, catches him, and as part of, like, his whole thing, he's like, y'all got to tell Shania.

Now, this is a group that hangs out together. I'm not going to say that mutt, and I think his name was Fred, Fred and Mutt, Lord, are buddies, but they like, you know, they hang out. They're on the slopes together. One of them shouldn't fuck the other one's wife, you know. Exactly.

Yeah. Well, that's how Fred felt. And he told him that. That is how Fred felt. And he made his voice known. And he said, y'all got to tell her I will. So they come clean. And they break up.

Things are hard. And who in the world could possibly understand what Shanae is going through? That she could talk about it with and not be embarrassed. who lost a friend and a spouse, if not Fred. Oh, I was going to say Oprah. They switch husbands. Nice. Good for Fred.

Good for you. Hey, trade it up. I almost said jokingly when you said that the first two was pork and I was going to be like, well, did Chen I at least port Fred to get back at it? Because, you know, that's the most move. That's a classic move.

Man, good for Fred, dude. Even if you ain't into Fred. like you just kind of got you do it you know exactly that's how that all works I feel like that's what happened and they turned out to like each other but because they have to keep up appearances when they go on Oprah they say things like for months we denied it because we thought we were just friends and it's like bruh y'all was in the alps first of all look at y'all they're both gorgeous yeah friends come on Fred's hot no shit Fred got that fucking milk chocolate money and he good looking He ate Swiss, so you know what I mean?

The Legion of child slaves at his disposal, I assume. And Nestle, you know, he got like, yeah, Nestle, they wanted the worst of the worst corporations. Boy, they are. They are. Fred, he's really slinging it. To be responsible for so many childlike things that bring me joy, that fucking group there. God damn. Man, his last name is.

Theobode. I don't know. Man. I feel. like a slave. All right, I've got him pulled up, and I'll let one of you probably Trey. Tushar, you know French? Right.

Wow. What? I know French. I know French. Oh, Corey, Montana? No. Yeah, French Montana. Corey, you know French.

No, but I can read anything. Say almost anything. Everybody knows about it. I read anything. You think put something. from me right now. I'll read me I won't read. Words.

Everybody knows I fucking read. Yeah. Oh, Chennai-Twin. Fred Greek. Fred Rick. It's a borat, dude. You're doing Borat. Chinat-Twayne.

But look out, look how cute he is, and he's tall. Yeah. Freddic. Diabot. Diabaud. The abode. The abode. The abode.

We nailed it. We nailed it. Oh, what? You needed to fucking try for that? that's what we were fucking getting Trey in here for you didn't mention that Fred was French that also adds to it you know absolutely I think he's world's greatest porkers just has that but yeah who knows it says hey Trey do your impression of when he walked in on his wife pork and mutt oh no fuck mutt yes we're not fuck mutt yeah yeah It too mutt.

Et too mutt. It's Latin, I think. It is. It's also French. Shut up. You're right. I made dogs as you have today. It too mutt.

It's very close. I probably pronounced it incorrectly, but I'm 99% sure. I took French. Got A's in every class. Don't remember much of it. I'm 99% sure, at least on paper. You would say also you, mutt, that way in France.

Now, you might pronounce it very different than the Latin phrasing of it. Okay. We put out, I put out, on the Bubba shot Twitter, what makes you feel like a woman? Now, I wrote in it, I wrote, we have some upcoming episodes where this would be relevant, thinking that a lot of people would know that that meant we're talking about, Shanai Twain and remember the song

and it put them in a good mood. No. And that they would, it did. We had a lot of very happy or positive or at the very least. Sarcastic. Yes, fun answers. We also have a lot of less fun answers, which is their prerogative to not have a little fun.

Shaniah said the best part of being a woman was to have a little fun. Maybe the honest part of being a woman. woman is to not have any fun with your all-male podcast fandom. Can you guys see that? Yes. I have to stay on it to scroll. Yeah, yeah, do your thing, baby. Here's a good one right there at the top.

What makes you feel like a woman? When I wear my best jean shorts and know my ass looks amazing in them, period. Also a guy way younger than me mansplaining bowling. this is one of my favorite ones. It came later in the game, but the way the scroll works on Twitter, it's at the top right now. This is my friend Caitlin,

and she is right. The lack of surprise I feel seeing how many men responded to this tweet and smoking pink cigarettes. I'm not sure what pink cigarettes are. That does sound fun. She is correct. A lot of men respond to this tweet.

Not like a whole lot, but like quite a few. Yeah, I mean, I responded to it and said what makes me feel like a woman is applying my Pond's cold cream twice a day, and I elicited the response of, I bet you do have a deal with them, you fucking endorsement whore,

which I thought was... Yeah, man. You get treated like a woman. You tried to make a thing happy, and a man insulted you on the internet. And again, it's just, it's funny for us to be like, of course,

these men want to chime in on this subject, you know, of this song. and how it makes them feel. Yeah, but we have a, you know, again, we have a whole podcast format that we have to stick with. You know, we're not being in reply guys. Anyway, let's get.

I like this. I'm going to try to keep this happy. When an older woman tells me something nice, when I make a rude man cry, wearing something pretty, when a woman is flirty with me. Taking the bra off at the end of the day, we got that type of thing a lot,

a lot of resting my titty's on the table. I thought that would hit for you, Corey. That does hit. Being underappreciated in my career, walking around my apartment naked while listening to true crime. I think that's a great answer. That's, yeah, it's nominal. Hot flashes and being told to smile.

Here's a man. Here's a man. Talking about woman stuff. This man's making a joke because I think he's, I think he's a gay man making a joke about being gay. I wanted to find one specifically. This one. This fucking murdered me.

Having my life choices constantly questioned by old white men who don't know me. Hey, this old white guy supports you 100%. Let's step in, Gary. Man, I feel like a papal. No, I'm going to have to question the choice you made in tweeting this here. Oh, I don't earn heart there, huh? I don't feel that way at all.

So I believe you're a little off base there, Missy. this is pretty great I'm not familiar with this podcast maybe I'm missing the genre was this thread meant to be overwhelmingly negative or is just really? Oh, I love it.

There was one, this one's great because I don't know if it's meta or not. Having a media, this is from a man, having a mediocre man explains something to me, I'm an expert at.

Is this meta? I asked as Bubba. I'm, possibly too high to answer the question, but probably. I don't know if this gentleman, Joey A.K. was making a joke, being a mediocre man, explaining something to women,

about being women, or if he unjokingly was like, I bet this will hit for women. Yeah. Could go either way on that one. Yeah. Pee and when I cough, I like that,

because I remember my mama, used to talk about that. Laugh or sneeze. That hit for me, just thinking about that. This one is not fun. Having life-threatening infections misdiagnosed as hysteria and watching sex offenders become and remain legislating. Jesus, God.

I mean, I hear you. Now, I did have a friend of mine, nurse Rosie, say that more succinctly, being gaslit by my doctors. That's got to be a nightmare. Yeah, that don't hit. But being, I mean, the sadness of these responses aside, they're all very true. And being a woman would not, I don't think it hit. I didn't look into this to see if it was a joke or a trans person saying it.

But going back to what we talked about, it hit for me that someone said, you know, what's the best part of it being a woman swapping my penis for a vagina? I didn't look into it. I believe that's a trans person. It hits. Yeah. A lot of mansplained. I thought there was one more I wanted to read, but I can't.

Oh, having pants with fake pockets, under boob sweat. Okay, now that's two right there. Yeah, Amber calls them Fockets. Yeah, dude. Are there any Indian tweets? No. There were people talking about getting beat for being a woman. I think the Indian feeling like a woman would be being forced into a marriage at like 18 to a strange dude.

Dude. Well, that was fun. Tell her about it, Drew. I love Rachel, also known as Harlet. That's her username by choice on Twitter. Great writer, friend of the pod. When I simply wear leggings without drawers and get galded worse than being at a holiday world

on the 4th of July and jean shorts. That's just good writing right there. What's holiday world? Is that a thing? that I'm supposed to know. I don't know. It's like a store where they sell holiday stuff. No, isn't it like a,

isn't it some kind of like a water park or theme park or some sort of deal? Is that where they went in? Holiday World theme park and Splash and Safari. Is that where they went in one of those vacations? In Santa Claus, Indiana. Yeah. No, that's Wally's world that they go to in vacation. The Moose.

Yeah. Yeah, Rachel is a huge Dolly fan and referenceer. Surprise she didn't say Dolly would. There's got to be a reason for it. Trust her as a writer. Is she from Indiana around up there? No. No, hell no.

She's read as fuck. She talks like that. Yeah, but she do. She sure's hell do. And I mean that in a good way now. She's probably used Dolly several times in replies and she didn't want to be redundant because she's, you know, a good writer. Yeah, or she didn't want people question her not to know what to wear the Dollywood,

so she didn't even want to deal with reply guys telling her what it's like to be a woman in the replies. Well, I mean, we went through it quicker than I expected, but I do think it's almost time for a rating, fellas. Unless y'all got other things you want to talk about, you know. Well, somebody might not have a better one than me on this, but I've been thinking about the rap equivalent as I do. Right now I got, I'm sure there's better answers, but you remember, none of your business by Salt and Pepper. Yeah, that's a good one. If I want to take a guy home with me tonight,

if she want to be a frequent, send it on the weekend. Not a y'all business. Yeah. I'm sure Cardi B got some shit too, you know, wet-ass pussy. Maybe that slides in here somewhere. Trina. Whoop, whoop, pull over.

Trina, yeah. I'm going to say, because of, I already brought up Missy that Get Your Freak on, which I'm 99% sure was produced by Timbalin. So that was the comparison I was trying to draw. Mutt and Chennai, Timbalin and Missy. I'm going to go with Get Your Freak on.

Get your freak on. Yeah. Ladies, snatch your old shit. You don't hear me though. Yeah. Yeah. I got any of those I think works. Yeah, that wasn't an argument.

This was me just offering other. Because I think unlike some songs, We got many options here. Yeah, ladies of your man. We mentioned Beyonce earlier. You got like single ladies and stuff. But normally, you know, we mostly stuck to just rap as opposed to, I guess that's R&B. Yeah.

Pop R&B. With female rappers, usually songs like this lead to, you know, I can suck a good dick more than, you know, like that type of song. Yeah, yeah. Very empowering. Very empowering. But it's not the same as a song. is kind of more stepping back one level and more universal, I'd say. Yeah, but this song is just one level removed from my neck, my back.

Yeah. What's the, what's that rap song? That's why I like get your freak on because Missy's don't really play that. No. What, Corey? What's the, it doesn't matter now, but what's the rap somewhere to do to any girl? And that dude's like, suck, suck on the dick. And she's like, lick on the clip.

You know what I mean? Suck, suck on the dead. I think that might be you and Amber just. Yeah. Every Friday night from the bathroom in the bedroom, they're hammered. Just yelling that instead of doing any of it. That's hilarious. Look on the clean.

I love you. Yeah, you're right. That rules. Tushar, is there a body woman? I don't know. I don't think so. I didn't really do the research here, but no, there's not much women empowerment over there.

Well, is it time for a writing then? It's a three for me. I mean, how can I? This song is transcendent. You know, it would be like, it would be just like, I don't know, you could hate it or whatever if you wanted to. It doesn't matter. But like, it just doesn't matter. I remember my high school girlfriend and her sister, like, now they probably get along well.

It's definitely one of those things where they were too close. and age and they were pretty poor so they had to share a bedroom way too long et cetera, et cetera. It seemed like the only time they didn't fight was when this fucking song came on and then instead of hating each other they hated me.

Yeah, unity. Unity. Yeah, I mean, dude. Yeah, three got to be. It's a three. Yeah. Yeah, I agree. I guess I meant to ask this. I'm looking over my notes. Do you all have I just brought up the one I was going to reference.

Do you all have like a memory, you know, as a teen of this song, whether it's your sister or a girlfriend, your mama? I mean, too sure, you said you heard it. I heard it on the, I think, I remember, like, I think at one point it was like Casey Kasim's top 40, another, you know, like it was one of those that just came on. Another tune about a woman getting plowed here is, man, I feel like a woman. Yeah, that. What about you too? To me, I can't pinpoint a single memory because it's one of those where like it just feels like it's been there in everything. Like it's just, you know, I've definitely more than once, you know, been at a bar when things were kind of dead.

And this song immediately had a, you know, bone crusher type effect on the women, which and if, you know, you're at a bar and the women get lively, like that's, that's, that's, that's what's. up. Like that's how, yeah, that's the whole game. Because if the women start getting up and dancing, the dude, they want to get plowed. They want to get plowed. You know what I mean? That's their prerogative.

That's right. Yeah, no, I mean, like, yeah, just what Corey said. Nothing's coming to mind just from. Well, help me make this list. What are the songs that do that to women in a bar? I got single ladies. Redneck woman. Redneck woman, if you're in the South.

Man, I feel like a woman. Girls just want to have fun. Don't stop believing by Journey. that's everybody that's guys and girls okay if you want a white trash woman to get on a table I'd say pour some sugar on me oh yeah definitely now we're just going through uh

and I do just going through strip club DJ songs yeah yeah I'm saying leaning away from the strip club DJ I'm talking about all the women want to go out on the dance floor not to strip on a table but to like those are the four that I could think of am I missing any what did you say again what four did you say

I got single ladies by Beyonce. I got girls just want to have fun. Man, I feel like a woman. I had another one, but I forgot what it is. This may be exclusive to my friend group, but stilettos by crime mob will send my sister and her friends into a goddamn frenzy.

And my sister can wrap every single word of it and fucking murders it. I think Cardi B has achieved that. I'm not familiar enough to remember the names of which ones are which, but she has at least one, I think the one with Megan the stallion, Megan the stallion,

I don't remember which one that is, is that, there's some holes in this house. Anyway, that's got to be one of them. I'm just making assumptions now. Andy, what's like a ra-rah women anthem in the vein of man, I feel like a woman,

single ladies, girls just want to have fun where girls and women, women just got to get up and dance. When we're missing? Well, I mean, I don't know if it counts, but like, sleep in that. Which one? Stevie Nix in general, she's saying.

Yeah. Her song, like, dreams and... Yeah. I got you. If you play that, everyone's going to be up. Okay. Well, Andy answered for all the witches and no one else, but it's okay to represent your group, baby.

That's what being a woman's all about. the prerogative to represent your group. All right, I'm going three. I think everybody said three. Too-Shar, did you vote? I went three. She's too hot. God damn it.

Come on. She's, yeah, she is. I mean. Yeah, you think she's listening, and that's the way to get to her heart, huh, Tushar? If she made it this far, I don't think she gives a fluff. Andy wants to know what you said.

Too-Shar gave her a perfect score and said, she's so hot. Yeah, we're judging her attraction level, right? not the song or video. We're not doing that. All right. Well, that's a good one. Scoot!

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