wellRED podcast - BUBBA SHOT THE PODCAST: Dollywood Goes Bollywood

Episode Date: December 3, 2021

Today on wellRED presents: Bubba Shot the Podcast we are doing a REVERSE EPISODE. Our good buddy the Indian Outlaw Tushar Singh takes us to 90's Bollywood and we dive in on the hit Bollywood song "Radha Kaise Na Jale" from the movie Lagaan. Go watch the music video right now! This is a super cool episode where three rednecks actually kinda almost learn something and get cultured. Get cultured with us!

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welcome to bubble shot the podcast first the facts and the facts this week are not being delivered by me we have a very special reverse episode for you guys instead of making our beloved Indian outlaw listen to a song by four and about racist from the time in his life where he lived in Alabama and got picked on by racist we are instead going to dive on into Bollywood and let him by racist by the way sounds like someone who's like racist against two different types of people yeah yeah that's most racist that is yeah they're most switch hitters Maybe it's a real five tool pieces of shit when it comes to being a racist. Maybe it's like a mixed person who hates both parts of themselves.

Right. There you go. Just out there burning crosses, you know, I'm on and all my grandfathers. Anyway, it's like that Chris Rock joke where they're like, who are the most racist? Black people, white people, black people, because they hate black people too. That's bi-racist. Well, that's as good of a segue as any too. or tell us about this song

we're diving on it too on and also what's the name of the show for the day I've always I keep forgetting the word what do you mean the show? The Bubba word God you just Oh, by yeah, by yeah that's like brother yeah yeah but you can say it also means idiot

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for us for like stupid white Americans. Surely you've got at least one. It's a cracker. Trey, I don't know if you caught it, but it means brother and idiot that word. So it's literally Bubba. Yeah, right.

No, I get it. That's great. The color white is gora, like a white person is gala. is Gora. So we'll it'll just be derogatory version of that. Oh, you got it. It's kind of like dismissive. Okay.

All right. Thank you. All right. Well, this, this, I didn't pick this song until late last night because I couldn't decide. It was too much of a breadth of options because it's not like we doing this every time. So there's all these options in Bollywood and especially 90s Bollywood. And this one, I mean,

Every song is attached to a movie. It's not like here where there's an album and people are following the lyricist. The person who sang the song that I pick, Asha Bosley, is a playback singer. So she, her whole career is not necessarily on originals, but she got famous off of doing very popular songs written by other people for movies specifically. So it's kind of a different system, I guess, to some degree, just because of Bollywood's such a beast in entertainment in India. It's like a cast system.

Yeah, it's a casting call. But this one is, the movie is Lagan. And I picked Lagan, although it's not in the 90s, it's 2001. And I picked it for, it was very difficult because there's some movies that are more traditional Indian, which is big set dancing. And they cut to a field with a cow and a lady dancing. And they have these jump cuts where they're just, you know, it's like a six minute. music video within a movie and there's like eight of them you know uh but i picked lagan because it's about british colonialism and the empire and i thought that'd be a fun thing to talk about with you guys

just as a topic uh but the movie is lagan it's from 2001 uh the movie was uh stars and kind of um is is produced by amir khan who is the he's like one of the most legendary actors and as you know since the late eighties he's been the dude he's like he's like he's like you're all He's like Tom Cruise plus Tom Hanks. The likeability of Tom Cruise, but he's also like kind of alpha guys. So he's like the dude. And this is his first movie that he produced on his own. And at the time, the budget was 250 million rupees, which is only $5 million because our currency

don't hit. But basically the movie is, and the song within the movie that I picked was Rada, Kese Nagelle, which is basically saying this girl Rada, how could she not be jealous? So I want to, can you spell out that title for people? Because we always tell people how to go watch the video or whatever right now. And you should also do that right after Tushar spells it. So you can go on YouTube and find it and then come back. Yeah, yeah.

So the movie is Lagan, L-A-G-A-N. And the song's name is Rada Kese-N-Jal-E-L-A-Jal-E, which is R-A-D-A-H-E-E. which is R-A-D-H-A-S-K-A-S-E-N-A-S-N-A-S-J-J-A-L-E. Some of our fans just wrecked. Yeah, that's right. Go, hey, go, speak of it of that and learn something, damn it. It's time y'all get cultured on the well-rep up shot the podcast. The funny thing about the song is there's no English subtitles.

So you're just kind of watching. And I just, I was picturing you guys watching it and be like, Okay. Well, I intentionally didn't like look up the English version of the lyrics because I wanted to just like watch the video and be like, all right, I want to see if I can just figure out the story through the universal storytelling mechanism, which is love. You know, I don't need the lyrics. I can kind of see what's going on. And then I wanted to hear you say them and have my mind blown. Yeah. But you have to knowing Corey's interpretation, knowing that he didn't because I did read the lyrics. Is Drew Frias for anybody? A little bit. Drew chopped up.

Yeah. Shit. So I can go through the lyrics, but I kind of want to go through the summary of the movie because the video is basically just a clip from the movie, right? It's the movie is, first of all, the movie is three hours and 41 minutes long. Is that normal? wild no it's longer even for an indian movie usually the three hours long and this thing is three i mean it's it's a lot i try to watch it last night and i passed out during when a normal

movie would end that's when i passed out so three hours is typical for like a bollywood movie like not just like y'all's whatever y'all's marvel epic is like that's just a pretty normal i think more modern movies that have more involved plots and there's more writing involved but you have to understand like the 80s and 90s like Bali was just a factory to get movies out and so the focus on riders didn't come I believe till you know the 2000s like people did people are just like this is this is the plot man says that piece yeah you can't marry the daughter I mean I'm sure there's there's a script but I'm saying like it's you can tell they're not like polished actors there yeah that has to be like I mean over here obviously we have a lot of movies that are like I don't want you marry my

daughter, but over there, that has to be even bigger of a thing. That's the thing, yeah, yeah. Right. I mean, it has to be. The movie that I, that would I've picked would have been about basically a man, a rich girl trying to marry a lower caste man. Donkey boy. Donkey boy.

I mean, as we've already covered, this is a, this is a trope in country music. I mean, you know, I mean, it was, wasn't it last week we were talking about? She still looks at Bobby. Like, I still look at you. Yeah, yeah. So, okay, are you saying that the hit songs over there are mostly all from movies also?

Or are they like, like, okay. In this era, in this era. Okay. So are there also, surely there's like just pop stars who aren't in movies or are they mostly like crossover people that do both? If I may for a second, that was also true of America in the 90s. we had a lot more soundtrack hits in the 90s than we do now. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, but a lot of those weren't from,

these songs are in the movie. Right. Well, yeah, no, they were in the 90s too. Oh, you're right. You're right, you right. Yeah. Like, my heart will go on, you know, was the Titanic song,

but they don't stop a scene in Titanic and sing my heart will go on. You right. They don't? That's bullshit. No, I think to your point, Tray, I think it's these movies, 80s, 90s, and even until now, they're basically like musicals. Yeah. Right.

So there's a piece of the movie that is a musical. And that's what drove, like, you have to understand. The reason they're so long is that this would be the only entertainment mechanism, just like much of the world. But going to a movie and chilling out for three, four hours is just part of something that's entertainment, especially in smaller cities. Like bigger cities, you can do shit. You can go out a bar. Now there's breweries in every city. Like there's an American eyes kind of like, hey, we're drinking just to drink and hang out.

There was like, you're taking your movies. And in movies in India, there's usually two levels. One for like upper, like a more expensive ticket and one for the lower. And the lower would be always loud and rowdy. And the upper would just be like looking down at them quite physically. But anyway, so the movie. I'm trying to get drunk at an Indian movie. Hell yeah.

There's always a break since there's, there's always an intermission in every movie at halfway through in every theater. And then once the intermission come, it turns into a straight up sports, like some guys selling hot dogs and peanuts and they start walking up and down the aisles. I really want to bring that out. Potato. Um,

but I want to quickly go over the summary, the plot of this movie. And then I'll, I'll talk about where the video comes in and then a few things about the song and then we can go over the lyrics. But the movie, just to summarize it, it's set in 1893. And it's when India was conquered by the British Empire. And how they did that was India would be ruled by various regions would be ruled by kings. And the British showed up and they kind of pinned the kings against each other.

And they would basically show up and say, hey, we're going to tax you. That's how they ruled. So they just say, X percent of your agriculture will be coming to us, go back to the queen. And then the kings would take that tax from their people, take a little bit for themselves, and then give the rest to the thing. So that's how they put pressure on it. And the opening scene of this movie is basically like the whole village, this is a small village in northern India, is they're like at the point of being famished as a group and there's no rain coming in.

So they're basically staring at the sky and be like, when the hell is the rain going to come in? Classic farmers battle against nature. Do y'all have rain dances or is that just our? That's, you know. Buddy, the whole culture is a rain dance. That's all we do. That's all Bollywood is.

Also, maybe I might have been the only one, but like it did not occur to me even a little bit that this was supposed to be the 1800s. because I'm not even trying to be any kind of way, but like I've seen how y'all do dwali. You know what I mean? Like I just saw that and I was like, yeah, right on. Like this shit, they're at a wedding. You know what I mean?

Like they're just at a wedding. And this dude is like, yeah. Yeah. I thought it was an older movie, you know, so I was like, 2020. But I didn't get like an 1895. But again, I thought they were like, now it makes so much sense.

I thought they were at a wedding. Are they not at a wedding in the music video? Dude. We just think, oh, they're out of wedding. No, that's just how they live. That's what I'm saying. Like, Indian people look like crayons at a wedding. Cool.

Like, I like it. Like, that's neat. That's interesting. I wish we did that, but we don't. We just all look, we're white and black. We don't hit. That's just so funny. We see Indian people and we're like, wedding.

Yeah, well, yeah. I mean, when they're all dressed like Harry and Lloyd from fucking dumb and dumber, yeah, I think that. I just imagine Indian people seeing how redneck's dress and being like, oh, NASCAR. It's like, nah, man, this is just a mall. No, the movie, it's so funny because the village that my I grew up in, or my dad grew up in, until 2010, it looked exactly the same as 1812. Yeah.

And in 2010, globalization, finally hit the villages and the rooms were redone there's flat screens on the wall everyone has an iPhone and like it's a mind fuck we got it's like yeah we got a little bit of that when i remember when we were pitching uh one of the pilots we had that failed uh it it was about the 90s and they were talking about oh we don't know about period pieces and we were like oh here's the deal and the way to make our hometown look like in the 90s you don't have to do anything different you could shoot it in our hometown right now and just make sure no one has an iPhone in their hand. Like it looks the fucking exact same.

You're not going to have to do anything different. It hit me hard when I went back in that time. It was just like, what the fuck happened to this village? Everyone's running around with headphones and they're all, they're literally filming videos. It's like, there was a wild change. Anyways, okay. So this is set in 18, 1983.

Basically, the villagers, because of the drought, are like, hey, we can't pay tax this year or we'll starve. So they went to their king. Their king was watching a cricket match with, there's a bunch of other stuff that happened, but the king was basically watching a cricket match with their white rulers. And they're sitting there like,

because they're rich too, and they're just watching this thing. And then basically the villagers show up and say, hey, you can't, you can't tax us this year. We just can't pay it. You know, we can't give it. And the villain in the movie is this guy, Andrew, this name's Andrew in the movie.

And he's basically one of the military. guys for the British Empire and he's basically like listen I'll make a deal he's just kind of trying to fuck with him he's just like I'll make I'm I make a deal with you it's all an in it's he's actually speaking in Hindi which is the wild part about the movie it's the first time I ever saw a white man speak Hindi in a movie is that is that can you do that sure Gore you know her in Hindi man I can teach you right now at what I mean is like you know how chat hanks does what he does and it's like he probably shouldn't do what he does is Is that the same thing with Handy?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It sounds, I don't know, Chet Hanks is, but, yeah. That's Tom Hanks' son who speaks in Pat-Far. Yeah, Pat-Farl. Okay. Yeah, I feel like if it's a, you know, if he's like playing a colonialist who was, you know, stationed in India and thus learned their language, like, you know, it's just like, speaking the language is one thing.

Was he doing the accent? He was doing it. I think you're supposed to, if you actually are fluent, that part of that includes, like an accent approximating the accent right it's like if you're doing it badly then it sounds offensive but part of being actually good at it right is doing it correctly so it's like a weird yeah it's really weird toe you know i agree with tray chatt hanks did nothing wrong um tushar i want to know about cricket is that who invented that game because it's it's a big deal in india it's so much fun to watch that's part of the movie right so like they basically have this this

They're watching a cricket game. The villagers have no idea what this game is because it's a British game. It's new in 1893. It's new. They have no idea what the game is. And part of the movie that's fascinating is that we as viewers get to learn what cricket is through the villagers because they basically challenge the British Empire in a game of a cricket match three months from that day.

And if they win the match, if the villagers win the match, they don't have to pay Lagan, which is tax, which is the name of the movie. They don't have to pay Lagan for three years. and if they lose, they have to pay double that year. So basically they're betting their entire. Yeah. They're betting their entire existence on this game that they don't even know how to play. But when a modern Indian culture watches it, I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, cricket is the sport.

It's like Happy Gilmore. It's, you're going to start yelling out just movies. Well, it is. It's like Happy Gilmore. He'd never played golf before, but his whole. Oh, yeah. His whole life and his grandmother's life was based on him succeeding at it. Yeah.

And I only yell out movies if it's fucking relevant to what we're talking about. Fair enough. I'm trying to be defensive for a billion people. But Happy Gilmore would, he played hockey. And in the beginning scene of the movie, the Amir Khan, the lead character is like, this is just like the stickball thing we play. It's the same thing. It's just, uh, and then.

Basically, they make this bet. You want to apologize or are you just going to blast on? Oh, I apologize. Okay. Thank you. So basically they have this moment where they're betting this thing. And then the main guy, Andrew's sister, who's this beautiful white girl, starts helping out the villagers because they don't know what the fuck they're doing. Is that the woman in white?

The women in white, yeah. in the video. Yeah. And she's the subject of this song. She's the subject of the reason Rada, who's this main character's boo, I guess, and they're not married yet.

But this girl shows up, takes an interest, falls in love with the guy. And I picked this song because it had every element of the movie. It had kind of this battle against an empire nestled within this love love battle and it kind of summarizes the reason I think the movie hit for for a lot of people.

Okay. So what's the main guy's name? Bahvin, but his, the actor's name is Amir Khan. Okay. So what, who, Krishna? Krishna. So in the movie, so the video, and let's talk about the video real quick just because I think it'd be better than just going to the lyrics.

Yeah, that's why I'm trying to straighten out who the players are. that are covered in the lyrics. So Krishna in the movie in the song is kind of, Krishna is like one of the many lords in our, whatever in our on the name of lords. And he represents Krishna. So he's referred to his Krishna in the song. Okay.

So it is talking about him. Yeah. He's the god. Girl. My man, so my man made a movie financing himself. He plays a god who saves the village by playing sports and all the women want him. Hell yeah.

Yeah, yeah. He knows, he knows what he's doing. Yeah, okay. All right. So, and then Rada is his, his old lady. Ratha's the lady, yeah. And she's in yellow in the video. How can I not get jealous when you fucking with all these white bitches in the garden?

Right. Yeah. And he's like, you don't need to get jealous. You're my son to moon and all this shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This is just some dumb white bitch in the garden. And she's like, yeah, but fuck. This is bullshit.

And at the same time, though, I mean, you know, I am a God. How could these bitches not want to fuck with me? Right, right, right, right, right. Garden bitches come and they go, yeah. But you, you are my son. The moon is forever. Yes. Yeah.

It feels like they have an arrangement to me. You think, she sounds like she's not none too happy about it, really. You're right. It really makes her question where she is because she's like this pretty, for lack of a better term, sophisticated person. and all the villagers, all the whole, every time she's on screen, everyone just turns and goes kind of crazy, like, oh, my God, her beauty. So obviously, Rod, that's going to be like this bitch.

I was the hottest girl before this one showed up. Right. And here we are, like, I have to fight for this guy's attention. Yeah, exactly. Okay. I like that. So this is kind of like, I'm thinking of some country songs. They're not from the 90s.

I'm sure there was some in the 90s, but this is like in the vign of a home wrecker. Yeah. maybe before he cheats, stuff like that. I took a cricket back. Yeah. It was Rick Shaw drives. But yeah, you got a philandering, you know, you got some other ho coming around and then I'm hitting for you, essentially. You got a homewrecker who's also trying to ruin your country.

I mean, it's. Oh, yeah, there is that. Yeah, yeah. Buddy. She has a good argument. If Gretchen. She does have a good argument. She would have stabbed somebody.

Absolutely. And the white girl in the movie who's to be jealous of, she was essentially in the first act she declared her love. Like it happened really early. It's like, oh, I love this guy. And then I'm going to help him. And I'm going to go out of my way and get in trouble for him. And so it's a real battle of like this guy, this cowboy who's basically trying to battle save his people from like he's just he's the ultimate hero. I guess right.

He's like he wrote himself. He's trying to save his people from her. Yeah, exactly. Well, before we get into the lyrics of the song, I guess since that's going to be their main focus, how's it end? It ends with, the white girl goes back on her boat

and loves him forever, like this unrequited love. She ends up, he ends up with, Krishna ends up with Rada, and they win the, the cricket game. And it rains at the end. The last scene is it's raining. So it's like,

ah, village dance. It's great. All right, that rules. Let's get in these lyrics. One thing, another thing, just to give you all an idea of me as an Indian growing up in Alabama, we had a lot, like the song or the video is just a dance with men against women. Like, that's like, that's a thing.

And then they end up dancing together at the end, maybe I don't even remember. But my entire childhood every year, the Indians that moved to Alabama and they formed a community around just being Indian, they would make all their kids do these dances. So my entire childhood is riddled with, with like year after year, all my friends are, I mean, I never danced because I was fat. And, you know, I don't know. I always forget that you were fat. Not me. Me neither. No, I never forget.

Try was fat.