wellRED podcast - Bubba Shot The Podcast is BACK BABY!

Episode Date: March 26, 2025

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Starting point is 00:03:12 Well, here we are back once again. Well reders. Well red nation. It's time for another stirring rendition of well red with the, without Drew, Drew still absconded to parts unknown running naked through the streets being wild. He hasn't even texted us in two weeks. No, he does that. He's the type to disappear, which I mean, I respect, you know, like he even said, you know,
Starting point is 00:03:32 he says ahead of time, hey, I'm leaving and I'm not, y'all ain't going to know whether I'm alive or dead during this time and don't try to determine the answer to that question either because I will refuse to offer you any information. And then, by God, that's what he does. Yeah, I respect it because usually, like, I'll start out that way where I won't text for a couple days, but then I'm like, I must report back with how hard I'm hitting, you know. Yeah, I know. You can't help it.
Starting point is 00:03:58 You got to give a little, uh, little, uh, hit report after that, but, uh, you don't appreciate it? Speaking of hitting, no, it's always nice to know how hard you're hitting, you know, everybody needs, anybody that, that deals in the show needs to know exactly how hard he's hitting at any given point in time. That's what makes him the show, but, uh, speaking of hitting, uh, we had a good idea. Yeah, we, we teased it on a recent episode that we were going to do this. And now the time is here, I think, in particular.
Starting point is 00:04:27 Drew's absence very explicitly inspired this decision. Yeah. It did. Surprise, bitches. That's right. A show about country. I don't expect no shit from 2,0005 podcast. I got to say, I did a pretty damn good job on that song.
Starting point is 00:04:56 Yeah. Yeah, it does it. It's been so long since we've heard it because it's been so long since we've done this because Drew, you know, said, no. We thought it'd be funny because Drew's not here and this is his baby. He does not have our blessing. No, not at all. He's going to be mad. He's definitely going to be mad about it, which is a real mad.
Starting point is 00:05:15 Yeah, probably, which is that, and that's funny. That's the whole reason we're doing it. And hopefully he can, you know, he can understand that, that is what makes it funny. It's just, you know, it's just a prank, bro. Now, he'll never speak to us again. He won't be that bad. perhaps a week later after he fumes for a while. But yeah, hell, it's just us, you know, we're just devoting one episode of the one,
Starting point is 00:05:34 one episode so far. We'll see how long. Until he gets back. God damn. Until he gets back. But it won't surprise me if he makes an earlier return than previously. Uh-huh. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:05:44 It's funny also, too, if like this ends up really hitting and people really like it. And he comes back in and he's like, I said none of that. We will have none of that. Well, it seems like that's what he did the first time. It was hitting real hard for everybody. And he was like, we will not, absolutely not. No. No.
Starting point is 00:06:00 But for this long-awaited return of Bubba shot the podcast, Drew List, we, you know, we did fuck up, though. We didn't call Tushar. We should have hollered at Tushar, man. Well, send him the link. That's going to upset people that we didn't do that. I'll send him the link right now. I'll send him the link right now. If you want to hop on here, this song that he probably never heard, he even know we were doing it.
Starting point is 00:06:21 But if we do this again next week, we definitely have to make sure that Tush can do it with us. I don't know. The only, I mean, it's so funny to, because like my entire, all I was thinking about was fucking overdrew.
Starting point is 00:06:32 You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. And then I went to grab the, the theme song again. And I was like, oh, fuck.
Starting point is 00:06:39 Like, we should have called Tushar. I'm sending it to him right now. Will you text him and say, yo, Corey just emailed you a link? Yeah. I mean,
Starting point is 00:06:47 I believe he'd be like, you know, working. Oh, no, I know. I know. But, dude,
Starting point is 00:06:52 you know, yeah, but like, okay, sure, he's at work. But, like, they don't mean he won't fuck off. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:06:59 Yeah. You know, what was he doing? Indian stuff? Indian stuff. And, yeah, Indian stuff in the city. Indian, in American context, which I mean, it, computers are involved. But he's not, he ain't like, it ain't like tech support. It's not that.
Starting point is 00:07:15 No, no, no. Like, he hits. It's one of those things that it's like, it's businessy to where people hear it. And they're like, I ain't got no idea what. it is that you do, but it seems like you hit at doing it because he's got like a nice apartment and he's like got a team of people. He's over, you know, he's got his minions and stuff. And yeah. So whatever it is, he hits at it, but I don't. He's one of our best friends and we have zero idea what he does. But like he also doesn't talk about it. I've definitely talked to him about
Starting point is 00:07:45 it before. And I just don't remember. Or again, it's like when he was telling me, I was like, yeah, I don't really follow her, but okay. Right. Because it's, it's a, it's a, our pay grade. That's if you want to in the next hour. That would hit so hard if he could come on. We've really fucked up. Yeah. But whatever.
Starting point is 00:08:06 People will be all for us trolling Drew, but that part people are not going to be happy about. No, this is not going to fly. He'll have to be here next week. We did pick a, I think we picked a really good song, though,
Starting point is 00:08:20 to jump back in. I don't know what the last one we did was. I should have looked that up. I don't either. Yeah. It's been so. long. It's been a long. I mean, it's been at least, I mean, it's, I know it's been over a year. It's that probably been two years. Probably been long. I mean, fuck, I don't know, dude.
Starting point is 00:08:34 Was it that? I can't remember. You remember we did strawberry wine at the Zanis condo all together? Yes, that was such a, was that episode. That might be the last one. That's what I'm saying. But I can't remember if it was a, we were getting the band back together or if we were still doing it regularly then. And then that was to be. I feel like that one was near the end, but I don't know. Yeah. That's a hell of the one to close on. I still, look, I know what you, I still stand by everything that happened in that episode, by the way.
Starting point is 00:09:05 And I feel like you all even remember if your long-term listeners what we're talking about. I feel like when you're talking about how raven it was, it was like all this age of consent stuff got roped up into it or whatever. And my whole position the whole time was like, I was just trying to say, hey, we don't have to do this. Yeah, no, that was the ravenry that Drew insisted. It was like, no, we're doing this. It's like, it wasn't, that was not me defending any of the dynamics that were present. That was just me being like, we, this isn't necessary. Right.
Starting point is 00:09:37 No one's going to cancel us if we, if we're like strawberry wine apologists. It's also, it's like it doesn't, it's not explicit. Of course it's all implied in the nature of what strawberry wine the song is about, but it's not like explicit. It wouldn't hold up in court. It's not explicitly stated that that even. is what's happening. So there's no reason for us to talk about it in the context of that being what's happening. And by that, I mean statutory right.
Starting point is 00:10:04 Also, and I would like evolved into this whole thing about where it's like we're talking about Romeo and Juliet laws and different states and all this shit. And also, I believe at one point I submitted to the court, I mean hell. You know, I think that was one of my arguments. Well, then we even got Andy down there to talk about how like she dated a dude as well. It's like, that's also the thing is like, You can, however you feel about any of that, the truth is, I don't know if it's still the case in small towns like where we grew up in, but I wouldn't be surprised to hear that it is. But in the fucking 90s and before that at least, it was a very cultural thing.
Starting point is 00:10:41 That's part of why that song hit so hard for people, I think. Right. You know, meaning like dudes. It was a scourge. The Wooderson type. Yeah. Who had been, yeah. Yes, Wooderson, exactly.
Starting point is 00:10:52 Why you think he was such an iconic character. the same year as that fucking song did. Right. It was a thing. It was a thing whether you like it or not. So anyway, now that we've gotten back into statutory rake talk again, this one, this one, you said we picked, I didn't pick it. That was a funny bit of ravenry that happened right before the episode started. I suggested it.
Starting point is 00:11:10 You said, yes, I say we picked it. I'm all for doing it. It's just funny because before this started, you were like, hey, it was a good idea that, you know, good one you picked. And I was like, I didn't pick this. You picked this. And you're like, no. you said let's do this and I was like yeah and I was like yeah I said okay we can do that because you had already suggested we do it and you're like no and then you're like oh yep yep I did say that
Starting point is 00:11:35 my bad this is this is the difference between me and other artists you know I'm constantly giving other people credit for my work always I've always done it was your big idea show my big idea I thought it'd be nice if we did straight tequila night by John Anderson why I thought that I'm now remembering this happened every week, too. It's like, presumably, they're going to see the title of the episode and know that already. Do you know what I'm saying? I'll hide it. I'll hide it.
Starting point is 00:12:00 Yeah, of course they'll know that. No, you're right. We just say Bubba return. But we used to do that like every episode. I'm just going to say Bubba returns. I'm just going to say Bubba returns. That's fine. That used to be the recurring thing every episode where it would be like we would tease what
Starting point is 00:12:12 and then and then every single time be like, oh, wait, they can read the title. They already know what it is. I'll put it in the description. Nobody reads that shit. No, why would you? No, they don't. You know what's funny? Like, I just, we've been doing podcasts for, what, almost nine years now, right?
Starting point is 00:12:29 Yep. Which is insane to me. Most of a decade. It just occurred to me last week. Like, I always stress about the podcast description. And it just occurred to me last week. I was like, when have you, have you ever read one of these? And I was like, I've never read one of these ever in my life ever.
Starting point is 00:12:44 Now, by the way, you should because we put our show dates and links to stuff in there. Like, you should. but like I've been I've been stressing like oh does that sound stupid it's like dude they go there when they want a discount you know what I mean they just go to find the link and that's it just put that in there you're good but whatever yeah I think yeah no you're right so yeah straight tequila night my legendary song Smith and barbecue sauce man he had a barbecue sauce John Anderson you didn't know really I thought I didn't Dude, I thought that was... The reason I wanted to do this song?
Starting point is 00:13:21 Well, in part, I thought, here's what I definitely thought. I thought John Anderson's barbecue sauce was like ubiquitous throughout the South for sure. I did not realize it was regional. Like, I was not expecting you, I was expecting you to be like, God damn, love that shit. Dude, I mean, I promise, like, here's how I know I didn't see it, because I'd have bought it. You know what I mean? Like, is this just when we were kids? Let's see.
Starting point is 00:13:46 So, yeah, I mean, show that beautiful. bean footage. He don't, they don't have it no more. Like, I guess it's been defunct. Yeah, it was, I guess it's been defunct for a very, very long time, but, uh, like, show me a picture of it. I'm trying to, hang on, I'm trying to find it. I need this, if I, because, I mean, if it didn't have, did it have a picture of his face on it? Yeah, it did. And I've never seen it because dude, kid me, and my dad would have bought that shit. My dad bought that shit. And he, my dad didn't even like that type of country music. He just liked the, he just like the barbecue sauce. Yeah, your dad, your dad, that's, I don't know if we ever talked about this on this show,
Starting point is 00:14:22 but like, I remember like talking to Earl about like 90s country music. Like I really, that really was part of me that believed I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, nobody likes the country music of their time, but the 90s is different. Like, that was actually good country music. And then like talking to the people that are like one generation or two generations above us, like a lot of them really did feel about 90s country music the same way, almost the same way we feel about current country music. And I remember it's like blowing my mind.
Starting point is 00:14:50 But now it's like, well, I get it. That makes sense. But like, then I listen to songs like this. And I'm like, yeah, but y'all don't mean this one, though. You know what I mean? You don't mean, surely you don't mean this one, though. Somehow they do. Wow.
Starting point is 00:15:04 Okay. So from what I can find. So first of all, I was having trouble finding anything. And I started thinking, I was like, bro, am I wrong? this. I vividly remember this. But the only thing I can find, this is so wild. There's a place near my hometown called Francis's barbecue, right? Shout out Francis's. Food hit. And yeah, it did hit. I don't even know if it's still open either, but it's just in my neck of the woods. And on their Facebook page, there's people talking about how, yeah, they used John Anderson's
Starting point is 00:15:42 barbecue sauce for years, but I think it's different now. there's a person in the comments like, John Anderson even put his picture on the bottle. And it's like, man, maybe it literally was just that one place that was near my hometown and they had something like, he did a limited run.
Starting point is 00:15:59 Or even just they, he knew the guy that owned it or whatever. And that guy was like, hey, can I put your name on this? And he said yes or something. I don't know. Right.
Starting point is 00:16:07 This is, I did not mean to derail it with this. I genuinely thought that every, because the only other thing I can find is from the Barbecue Brethren Forum, which I assume your dad is an active participant in, probably a moderator of this particular forum. My dad doesn't do anything in moderation.
Starting point is 00:16:25 Thank you very much. And in the, in a post from 2013, they're talking about Monroe County, which is where Francis was. Where Francis was. And it says, my wife said they used, they used to use John and, Anderson's barbecue sauce.
Starting point is 00:16:46 This is kind of crazy. So, yeah, I thought everybody had it, but I guess only we in the very far upper Cumberland and lower middle part of Tennessee and lower middle part. Is that where John Anderson's from? We're blessed with John Anderson's particular brand of barbecue sauce. This is blowing my mind. And I should know this. Is that where he's from?
Starting point is 00:17:08 And I should know this. I was going to do some biographical stuff on John Anderson, but then I realized like, oh, we already did Seminole win. We don't have to get into all that. Well, you just said Seminole Wind. He's from Florida, which makes sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course. Of course.
Starting point is 00:17:21 Yeah, yeah. Straight Tequila Not, by the way, was on the album, Seminole win, organically throwing that in. Nice. Man, I don't know. I don't know. Like I said, I thought when I said he was a barbecue sauce, man, I expect you to be like, oh, that was the shit, wasn't it? And now it's like finding out that nobody knows about this stuff, but Selenians.
Starting point is 00:17:42 I'm really glad that you found out that only. Selenians know about it because I was about to feel like my red cred was about to be called into check because I didn't know about John Anderson's barbecue sauce. Apparently, it's way, way more regional or whatever than I thought was. That's kind of crazy because your regional, your regional shit, your region don't hit, you know. So like the fact that you all got a hit. The only other country music related thing I can think of from my region is. Duma Walker.
Starting point is 00:18:11 I'm about say I'm from where Duma's Walker's was. Dumas Walkers was an actual like little roadside country store that even it was closed down by the time I was a child but like my dad and them used to fuck with it and everything and the Kentucky headhunters they're from so I grew up on the Tennessee side of the Kentucky line they're the Kentucky headhuners i.e. right across the lot like from that part of Kentucky specifically so their song their biggest hit Dumas Walkers that was in Clay County my hometown and that's about it. Well, y'all got that lake. But doesn't that make you... It's home of the world record small mouth bass. But I was just,
Starting point is 00:18:51 I was talking about country music stuff. But yeah, but I mean, even that. We got the bass and Dumas Walkers and the 194 Marbles champion. And John Anderson's barbecue. Marbles or Marl champion?
Starting point is 00:19:06 Marbles. Marbles. Marbles. It was a girl. I can't remember her name. She was older. maybe she was in high school at the time and I was eight so I was like an elementary school she was in high school and she got she was on the cover of sports illustrated for kids
Starting point is 00:19:22 that's crazy 994 I definitely saw her marbles champion yeah from salina tennessee on the cover of s for kids it was a big big deal I know you didn't have any money but you had you had a library card do you fuck with sports illustrator for kids oh yeah yeah that was my shit and then later rake I was a big magazine guy you said They didn't have any money, but that was one of those things where it's like I also used to get those. I used to get those subscriptions to like CDs like they'd see CDs in the mail. Well, that much like with magazines, you could basically just steal them sort of by just like signing up and never really paying for wherever. So like I always kind of had magazines and shit.
Starting point is 00:20:05 Yeah. I didn't you go to the, uh, did y'all have like a recycling center? Yeah, but. Yeah, we would go. Yeah. But we had a recycling center. It was our favorite place to go because they had like all these sections in it. And it was just like it was sort of like how storage buildings are now, except for they were open.
Starting point is 00:20:22 And there was just a little tub. And like one section would be where you throw your bottles and then your cans and then your refuse or whatever. And then there was a whole place just to stick magazines. And it was right behind our baseball field. So after baseball practice, because like our parents would leave and then we could ride our bikes home or whatever. But we would be like, oh, we're going to play wall ball back here and we would play wall ball for a second just to throw them off but then we would go to the recycling center and like be like scrooge mcduck except for we're
Starting point is 00:20:52 diving into magazines looking for fucking playboys you know what i mean okay but also like that was the pride the big prize was the playboy and not only did you find the playboy but like the people who were recycling their playboys they don't think to take their name and address off the subscription thing so you could not only would you find a playboy you would see whose daddy is subscribe to Playboy so that you would know like, okay, this is where we go. Like we need to go home with this kid because we can probably get liquor. You know what I mean? Like if his daddy's recycling Playboys, that's the house right there.
Starting point is 00:21:25 But anyways, we would like, we would go through there and just like, you know, we'd pick out obviously all the playboys, which were like, they were not a dime a dozen, you know, it was hard to find one. We'd mainly be getting auto traders. And you remember the concept car magazine? They're like, all it was. the whole thing was just a whole magazine full of like cars that weren't in production but they were just conceptual and it would be like the shit of the future you know what i mean and not one thing in there looked as fucking stupid as a cyber truck not one thing not one goddamn thing no anyway right that's true i found one other thing that we'll move on to actual straight tequila night but now we're fine keep going i found a an article from 1996 in the chicago tribune I don't know what the Chicago Tribune wrote it. I don't know what they were doing writing about this in particular in 1996,
Starting point is 00:22:17 but says John Anderson sings of another interest, his own restaurant. John Anderson, who wrote and recorded the national pop hit swinging in 1982, made a former reputation as a pioneer of Nashville New Traditionalism, has had a hidden avocation during his years of singing stardom, as he recently demonstrated to a crowd of some 50 neighbors in rural Smithville, Tennessee, Smithville is like 15 minutes outside of Cookville, so it's less than an hour from where I'm from, by the way. So Smithville is also the upper Cumberland, so it's in my neck of the woods. As he recently demonstrated to a crowd of some 50 neighbors in Smithville,
Starting point is 00:22:53 Tennessee, Anderson is a country-style chef. It is not yet open. John Anderson's steakhouse on 400 scenic acres. He will have yada, yada, yada, yada, roast pork, barbecue chicken, salad, sweet, yeast rolls, bread, pudding. Most of the food cooked according to his own personal recipes. It says that he's got a quote from here. It says, I got a boy from Oklahoma. I've been
Starting point is 00:23:19 training for a year to cook and we're getting another who's graduating from culinary school in Louisiana. Oh shit. Doing it right. But anyway, he don't specifically say in here that he bottled his own barbecue sauce, but I feel like I'm pretty sure
Starting point is 00:23:34 I ain't crazy. No, you're not crazy. I think it might have been a limited run and y'all had it. You know what I mean? And they had it up there at Francis is or just in my general neck of the woods. We had it. Listening to all this, like how close you are to Kentucky and listening to all this country music history that takes place around that part and whatever.
Starting point is 00:23:53 Isn't it like increasingly more insane to you that people have differing opinions on whether Kentucky's the South or not? Yeah. Again, I think that it like, I think that most of that comes down to the fact that like the cities that are in well i mean yes but i think that's like like louisville is not very southy you know what i mean neither is atlanta right that's true that's a good point you know what i mean like you can say that anywhere like i i did a bit on stage when we're in atlanta is like all and i know we've talked about in the book where it's like we the south don't get credit when it's a
Starting point is 00:24:30 cool city you know what i mean like if it's a cool city they just go no that's not really the south you know what i mean and it's like what the fuck are you talking about like what are you They're like, well, that's not really the South. And it's like Oxford, all these places, they're like, well, not really. I'm like, no, what you mean is it's not redneck. But South and Redneck are not synonyms. You know what I mean? Yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 00:24:50 No, you're right. Yeah, well, I'm just saying, like, no. But Louisville, though, or I just think, you know, Kentucky, the part of Kentucky I grew up near, which is the part of the borders Tennessee and, like, southeast Kentucky and cold country and all that is 100% south, very much so. But that northern part of Kentucky, though, like bordering Ohio and shit. Well, yeah, fuck down. And it's, Kentucky is, you know, it's different sort of. But anyway, we don't need to relitigate all that.
Starting point is 00:25:18 That's fine. I'm just saying they've got in all that Kentucky talk, either on this show or on P.O.A, I can't remember. You die? Yeah, but we got into all that. Anyway, John Anderson was a hobbyist chef, and I am confident, had a barbecue sauce that I thought was a much bigger deal than it is. So anyway, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:25:39 There you go. Straight Tequila Night, y'all. Here's the facts, as Drew would like to say. Obviously, the artist is John Anderson, our boy. The album was Seminole win. They released it on December 2, 1991. That was as a single. It was on BNA Records.
Starting point is 00:25:54 And the songwriters are Debbie Hup and Kent Robbins, both of whom I'm fairly certain have come up on this show before. I can't remember for which songs. And James Stroud produced it. Straight Tequila Night is about a man at a bar, warning another man about a woman who comes in regularly. The key detail here being, of course, if she's drinking white wine, it's fine. She's friendly and fun-loving, you know.
Starting point is 00:26:17 But if she's on a straight tequila night, well, she's likely to get emotional and volatile due to a past heartbreak. It's great story tale and it's wonderful. On the charts, it was John Anderson's first number one hit since 1983, probably with swinging. Swinging, yeah. With swinging. On the Canadian country tracks, it hit 9.
Starting point is 00:26:37 number one. And it was a huge comeback hit for Anderson. Like it really reignited his career after he had sort of a rough patch in the late 1980s. I mean, he came on the scene hot and heavy. And then this album right here, Seminole Wind was a lot of people sort of had written John Anderson off as like, oh, he was that was a guy from the 80s, whatever, you know, he's not, he ain't shit. And then he comes back with this on the Seminole Wind album, which went, I believe, double platinum. I got it in my notes for later. but it was a huge comeback song for him. And like I said, the writers were Kent Robbins, who was a huge prolific country songwriter.
Starting point is 00:27:14 He wrote stuff for George Strait, the Judds, Reba McIntyre. I've got a couple of those pulled up. He wrote, I mean, among many, many other things, Every Light in the House by Trace Atkins. That's the best song. Her Man, and It Would Be You by Gary Allen, Straight Tequila Night by John Anderson. I mean, again, there's way more.
Starting point is 00:27:36 I'm just picking up the... You've already described enough hits to where he got a house and never had to work again. Write this down by George Strait. Huge one. And then, let's see. Do you know the song by John Anderson called She Just Started Liking Cheating Songs? Yes. She just started liking cheating songs.
Starting point is 00:27:55 Yeah, I don't think I know that one. I sure do like the name of it, though. Yeah, it's great. It's about him. I'm pretty sure if I can... remember correctly it's about him like realizing oh shit you know what i mean like something it's funny to think that like it's funny to think that like a woman who starts cheating would then start like start playing nothing but cheating songs all the time imagine i don't know what it is about this something about this
Starting point is 00:28:21 just just speaks to me yeah like imagine playing goodbye earl on repeat 10 days before you murder your husband just like in the car yeah you know what i mean because and i don't know dude men or different men are like oblivious but i tell you this fucking i know in reverse sometimes i'll hear because i've said before like i'm not ever since i've had a peloton i'll hear some random ass shit sometimes that i never would have found or listened to it a million years before right for example a song by like do a lepa right yeah uh and that all i'm saying that hey by the way for everybody that don't know that means two leipas two of leipas uh yeah but um she's got this it's like uh it goes something like walk away you know how if you something about if you see me like basically
Starting point is 00:29:08 it's a breakup song but i'm crushing it now is the theme of it right i'm out of you like me now about toby keith i'm out at the club i'm hitting i'm over you go fuck yourself that's what's about i don't care what it's about i just like the song it's just a fun song but like got enough beats for minute point is katie right is like i would played it a few times whatever's like yeah you're fucking do the leap of this song's great or whatever like she would be like, what, what is it with this song, by the way? Like, why is it this song specifically? Are you trying to tell me something like that?
Starting point is 00:29:39 And I'm like, what? No, I just fucking, I just like the sound. I just like the song. What the fuck are you talking about? So I'm just saying, it's so funny. I can just say that if I started playing exclusively cheating songs, Katie would absolutely pick up on it. I bet.
Starting point is 00:29:56 And it would be a crazy decision on my part to do that, you know. I bet Amber has so many memories of me, whiskey drunk, just sitting there fucking blasting the music and staring at hell. I'm thinking about cranking this ragged old truck up and driving my ass into town. Yeah, which is, I mean, tell me that you ain't, I mean, that's the number one old, that's the number one old boy song to listen to after when your wife has, God. Absolutely, bro. I tell you what, though, it gets you through it. Yeah, well, yeah, I was going to say, it's like it, it don't, it both does and does not help. Like, if you've had an argument.
Starting point is 00:30:41 Yeah. With your woman and it's like, you know, whatever. Maybe you were out of line. It's confirmation bias, that's for sure. That's what I'm saying. And then you, and then you play ragged old truck by Billy Joe Shaver, you're going to be, you're going to go straight to fuck that bitch in your head no matter what happens. No matter what the specifics. it are like if you had an argument and you listen to that song she is not going to hit for you
Starting point is 00:31:06 after that you're not but you don't come out of a song going like oh i should say i'm sorry you know no but i'm saying like you'll listen to it you'll have a few beers and the song hit so hard that your dopamine reactors will be like all life's worth living whatever it's cathartic i suppose it's somewhat cathartic well we should probably discuss straight tequila night a little bit more since that's the subject of the episode but first i think we need to take a quick break in here from our sponsors. That's what I think. You are beginning with Squarespace. Everybody, well, to tell you about Squarespace, this episode is
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Starting point is 00:39:34 They hit. And we like them sponsoring the podcast. All right. You know who else is, Trey? John Anderson. John Anderson, and also Debbie Hupp, who was the other writer of this song. We gave Kent Robbins his shine. So I want to make sure that everybody knew that Debbie Hup also co-wrote
Starting point is 00:39:49 you decorated my life for Kenny Rogers among a lot, which was the inspiration for my t-shirt today. Look at that some bitch right there. I mean, rest in peace, dude. Look how badass that some bitch looks right here. Kenny Rogers. Does it. Yeah, absolutely. The song had actually been circulating for like years before Anderson cut it.
Starting point is 00:40:10 So it was one of those that like, you know, I assume back in the day in Nashville how it worked was, I mean, not all the time, but like you had your publishing companies who like literally had songwriters in like cubicle situations where they'd sit there all day and come up with stuff here i got this i got this sent it to this person but a lot of times what happened and i and i didn't find anything on how the song got handed off but like you're familiar with the bluebird cafe correct yeah of course yeah well the bluebird cafe songwriter spot in nashford yeah yeah and they used to have a show you know it was live from the bluebird but before that the and still to this day the bluebird is a spot where songwriters who aren't this, I mean, sometimes Vince Gill goes there. There's people with names, but like you go up and like all you are, like all these people are and all they want to be
Starting point is 00:40:55 songwriters and they'll go debut their songs. And like a lot of times that's how songs got sold was you go play it at the Bluebird and you don't know who in there is listening, whether it be the artist themselves, whether it be a producer, whether it be someone that's friends with them. So it could be one of them situations where like this song, straight Tequila Night had just been, you know, rotating around at the bluebird and finally someone decided like I want to do this uh like there was there was a at one like riva mcintyre said before she's like that's her this is her favorite song that she never recorded and that she sort of wished that she had a picked up on it which would have been interesting coming from a woman's perspective and that's the thing
Starting point is 00:41:35 about this song is like it doesn't it's coming from a uh i guess not ubiquitous but a uh a um Wendulous and androgynous, a neutral. A narrator that's, what's God? He's both ubiquitous and. Omnipotent? Omnipotent. Yeah, this is coming from an omniscient. Like, you know, like, it's a dude, but like, he knows everything.
Starting point is 00:41:58 Like, it doesn't matter that it's a dude, just what I'm saying. I'm saying, it don't have to be a dude. It could be a woman, bartender, or whatever. And in that case, it's coming from a woman, it's more, what's the word, sympathetic or whatever? Sympathetic and also like. You know what I mean? It's like, that's my home girl.
Starting point is 00:42:13 I know how that goes, type of feeling versus like, hey, she ain't going to give it up tonight. Yeah, that's true, but I do feel like this song is still a little sympathetic. Like, it's not entirely, it's not entirely misogynistic or anything. Like, the dude's basically saying, like, man, she's been through hell, dog. You know what I mean? And you don't want to fuck with her either. And you don't want to fuck with her. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:36 Because matter of fact, dude, the complete misogynistic view would be like, oh, she's having a straight to Keel and I got, she's very vulnerable. Go fucking with her. Yeah, get in there. Right. But this dude's being like, hey, soldier, like she's, this is her time. You know what I mean? But like I said, also, it had, it was a career resurgence for John Anderson who, as soon as he heard the demo, he saw the potential.
Starting point is 00:43:03 He loved the layered emotions and the, you know, it was very real. See, and this is one to me that it's just, it's so wild to me that it didn't work for somebody else. song could have like needed to float around. I can't believe that any professional country music person ever heard this song and was like, it was like, nah, I just don't see it. You know, like that just, that blows my mind that it took years before John Anderson was like, I think we might have a diamond in the rough here. Because to me, it's just like, just a, I mean, just a can't miss chart topping gems.
Starting point is 00:43:39 Straight out straight out of the fucking gate. Dude, it's got that good hook. it's clever, don't ask her on a straight tequila night, it's like you don't even have to you just know what that means. Do you know what I mean? It's just, I don't know. It just hits. I'm with you, like, the only thing I can use
Starting point is 00:43:55 to like play devil's advocate is to say that like maybe the person who wrote it and was also playing it just on an acoustic guitar, like maybe their arrangement of the song was completely different than what we hear from John Ann. You know what I mean? Like maybe like the way
Starting point is 00:44:10 they just weren't selling it somehow, But I agree with you that if you're just bad or something. The bad, yeah. But I'm with you and like, I feel like if I just read the lyrics on a sheet of paper. Right. I would have been like, I would have been like, just reading. Exactly. No, I'm with you 100% dude.
Starting point is 00:44:28 But, you know, like I said, Anderson, he'd had like a pretty rough stretch from the 80s. Like he'd had swinging in 83. That made him a household name. But by the late decade, he'd kind of sort of tapered off. But then he signs of BNA Records releases, you know, Seminole. win and he's back baby and seminal win the album that this song is on it went double platinum which like platinum's good enough you know but double platinum fire uh it's considered one of the best country albums of the 90s let alone this being one of the best singles of the 90s uh and you know he had a lot
Starting point is 00:45:01 of hits like i don't know like you know there've been quotes from several people that are like oh this is his most enduring song or this is like you know whatever and like i'm like i don't i i think I think I agree, but Seminole Wind to me is like more of a signature for him. I can't, I got, maybe it's personal taste or something. Like, I like, I would rather hear this song because it doesn't make me sad, but I think Seminole Wind is like what he's known for. Okay, well, I was going to say that I'm on the other side from you, but actually no, now that I, yeah, I feel the exact, I think Seminole Wind is his more signature defining song, but like this song, but like this song, hits harder for me personally.
Starting point is 00:45:44 I love Semenowen rules. Seminole win rules, I love that song. I think it's great, but I personally would, I would rather hear swinging, I would rather hear Wild and Blue. That Wild and Blue might be my favorite John Anderson song, frankly. Wild and Blue rules, and surprisingly it's like
Starting point is 00:45:59 even though it might be his most covered song, it's still his least, like, least popular of like all his hits. Nobody ever brings up Wild and Blue, even though like I've heard so many bands like cover it, But it was in like, it was on his like 82 album or something like that. But, you know, all I didn't realize.
Starting point is 00:46:18 I mean, I did. I don't know. You didn't know Wilden Blue was him? No, no, no. I knew. I didn't know that he popped, fell off, and then a decade later had a big comeback with these. Because in my head, as a kid, when this was out, it's like he was just one of those guys. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:34 Right. He was just one of those guys. It was just part of it. He just hid in the 90s, you know. Yeah. It makes it kind of a cooler story that he had, like, fallen off. And then, you know, you know, had a comeback. I mean, 10 years is a long time, you know.
Starting point is 00:46:50 Dude, in the entertainment business, that might as well be your whole lifetime. Yeah, dude, 10 years is insane. I mean, that was when you put out your first video. I know, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, but I mean, you're doing. Just about. You haven't had a career falloff. It just never went anywhere.
Starting point is 00:47:06 You know what I mean? Right. You can't compare yourself to John Anderson. and he had some hits. He hit. And then stopped him. He did hit. I just never started hitting.
Starting point is 00:47:15 You just never hit. But no, for real. It is easier that way. But hey, for real, I mean, 10 years, no, 10 years, especially in the, now granted, you know, he's got a lot going for him in the sense that he's a white man. You know what I'm saying? If he'd have been a woman and not had a hit for 10 years, I mean, he's entirely completely screwed.
Starting point is 00:47:34 But yeah, no, it was a, it was a resurgence for him. I'm trying to think of, like, if there's a. been anyone that we know, sorry, my son's crying, if there's been anyone like that I can think of that had this happen to, like, I remember when George Strait, before I say this, I know that George Strait never took 10 years off, but I remember when he put out Trubador, it had, it seemed like it'd been a minute and it was like, oh, George Strait's back, you know what I mean? But like, it doesn't happen. It is more often what happens is that you never hear from that motherfucker again. That's more often what happens.
Starting point is 00:48:08 but not the case in this one. And do you happen to have the lyrics pulled up? I do. Do you want to run us through them? Yeah, so first verse. If you really want to know, she comes here a lot. She just loves to hear the music and dance. K-13 is her favorite song.
Starting point is 00:48:28 If you play it, you might have a chance. If you play it, you might have a chance. I want to know what do you think K-13 is. Damn it. I should have foreseen that coming. What do you think it is? is like he stopped loving her to what she's dancing though so it's not it's got to be a dance song it like a judge song is it country but is it country oh yeah i mean i guess you guys could
Starting point is 00:48:50 put some sugar on me yeah i was about to say it don't even have to be country drunk white women in a bar they do they love that now you know a little deaf lap yeah i mean that's a good point we have we have to come at it though like let's try to be real to the song like she is going through a breakup and women that are going through a breakup often either like songs about breakups or as you empowering songs that have nothing to do like all the single ladies is probably an anthem for girls that get broke up with now.
Starting point is 00:49:21 This is from 1992. Well, actually this is not. It doesn't have the same. So we'll say 1989 is when the song was written. Yeah, I was going to say it don't really, it don't have that single lady's fit. Whatever. I don't know if you've ever been in a bar even to this day
Starting point is 00:49:37 when people are drunk and women in there, especially are drunk. And the song, I want to dance with somebody by Whitney Houston comes on. Goes crazy. Goes crazy. It goes crazy, dog.
Starting point is 00:49:47 That song is fire. In terms of like making a woman want to dance to it, not just a woman, just anybody really, but if people are drinking out of a bar, it's like that. And that's from the 80s, right? That's got to be,
Starting point is 00:50:00 is that a 90s song? I'm not sure. What's the song again? I want to dance with somebody by Whitney Houston. No, I think it's 80s. Hold on. I'll look it up. I want to dance with somebody.
Starting point is 00:50:12 It is 87. It could have been, hey, that works out perfect. It could have been this one. But, you know, I feel like in the country world, it's probably also a country song. Sure. But I'm going to be honest, I'm not great with 80s-era country music really. Me either, because it was very overproduced. I know some of the old, like, classic country and shit from before that.
Starting point is 00:50:35 And then 90s I'm familiar with, but like 80s country, I don't know. That's going to be a hard pull for me. Okay. The judge probably had a song that's it like that. Islands in the stream by Kenny Rogers and Dolly Parton came out. And this song was co-written by a Kenny Rogers writer. Forever and Ever A. That's not a dance song, though.
Starting point is 00:50:56 All My Exes live in Texas, 87. Guitars and Cadillacs by Dwight Yokem, 1985. Fishing in the Dark by Nitty Gritty Dirt Band, 1987. I was country in the darks from 1987? I didn't know that.
Starting point is 00:51:10 I was country when country wasn't cool by Barbara Mandrell, 81, seven Spanish angels Ray Charles, 1985, um,
Starting point is 00:51:19 oh hey, it could have been swinging by John Anderson. Let's stay in house. It could have been swinging by John Anderson. Also, Elvira,
Starting point is 00:51:29 I'd love to lay you down by Conway Twitty. Dixieland Delight, 83. Uh, You said the judge, they released Grandpa, tell me about the good old days in 85. That's not really a honky tonk. I'm going to dance to this song.
Starting point is 00:51:43 When You Say Nothing at All by Keith Whitley. Yeah, but again, it says, you know, she just loves to hear the music and dance. That's true. Baby's got her blue jeans on, 1984. That's a good one. That's a good one, yeah. Yeah, now that I'm thinking about dancing songs, If you're going to play in Texas, you've got to have a fiddle in the band.
Starting point is 00:52:07 That's Alabama, 1984. That's a good one. That could have worked. Killing, that's not a dance song. Louisiana Saturday Night by Mel McDaniel. Could have been the one. Yep, could have been the one. I'm going to vote right now and say that it's swinging by John Anderson.
Starting point is 00:52:27 I'm going to be mad at. I'm going to be mad at. That's for me. Yeah. And the verse continues tonight. She's only sipping white wine. She's friendly and fun-loving most of the time. And then the chorus starts.
Starting point is 00:52:39 But don't ask her on a straight tequila night. She'll start thinking about him and she's ready to fight. Blames her broken heart on every man in sight on a straight tequila night. Then the next verse, here's a glass of Shab Lee, some quarters and change. Maybe you can turn her love life around. Then she won't need the salt. or the lime anymore to shoot that old memory down. Just remember her heart's on the mend.
Starting point is 00:53:11 If you ever come back to see her again, don't ask her on a straight tequila night. And the chorus then plays four more times, and that's it. Name one thing Bob Dylan did better than this. Sure, buddy, Dave. Come on, dude. Barking up the wrong tree if you're expecting me to come through with that one.
Starting point is 00:53:28 I'm not a... I love Bob Dylan. I was listening to Bob Dylan. No, I don't. Oh, right. Oh, but your dad is. Didn't he? No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:53:35 I don't look. Look, don't even wrong. I ain't trying to get no hate mail or whatever. I'm just saying I'm not the guy who's going to go to bat for Bob Dylan is all I'm saying. He was never, my dad, my dad, like, he definitely, he respected Bob Dylan, like, for sure. But he never really, like, listened to Bob Dylan. And, you know, I don't know. I mean, I know he's got some bangers.
Starting point is 00:54:00 He's got a ton of, he's got a million songs and all that stuff. It's just. I saw this. He just ain't really my things. I like, you know, me personally, I take John Anderson over Bob Dylan. For sure. For sure. I mean, you famously said that DMX is better than John Lennon, which that's two different things.
Starting point is 00:54:16 I saw this tweet the other day that was like, person who has listened to one Bob Dylan song, Bob Dylan's the greatest artist ever, person that's listened to 20 Bob Dylan songs, Bob Dylan sucks, person that's listened to 100 Bob Dylan songs, Bob Dylan's the greatest artist ever, person that's listen to 500 Dylan songs, Bob Dylan sucks. And that really is kind of it. Like he, obviously the ones that are bangers are bangers. And then you go deep into his catalog and you're like, wow, he wrote so many great songs. And then you go so deep into his catalog that you're like, you know, Bob, every journal entry didn't have to have a guitar.
Starting point is 00:54:56 You could have just not done that. But this song is absolutely fantastic. I personally love, my favorite part is the use of the word Shabbly. Yeah. It's sort of, it provides a good juxtaposition of what's really going on. Like, hearing a woman of like a redneck woman orders Shabbly in a redneck bar always does it for me because that's our people, you know, like trying to, it's putting on airs a little bit. Like trying to be a little bit above our station because you know that Shabbly, number one, it's probably just. chardonnay.
Starting point is 00:55:34 It's probably just, it's not that or whatever, or nobody knows what it is. Well, there's another aspect to this, in my opinion, it's like, this is sort of a callback in the first verse. The bartender explicitly says, tonight she's only sipping white wine. She's friendly and fun love and most of the time. So I think you can interpret this as the bartender bit, maybe the white wine she's drinking, it may not even be Shabbly or whatever. It's like, it's like trying to impress her.
Starting point is 00:56:00 Do you understand what I'm saying? Exactly. Yes, yes, yes. Here's a glass of Shabbly. Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, this will make you same fancy. And, you know, like a gentleman.
Starting point is 00:56:09 If you come up with Shabbly, if you walk up, it's like, here's some barefoot shit. I got you. But, you know, I walk up with like Shably for the lady. How's your ex-husband, bitch? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, no, I like it.
Starting point is 00:56:21 The bartender, but it's nice because the bartender is both trying to hook this guy up, but also seemingly protecting this woman's feelings. You know what I mean? Like, he cares about this. woman because he's telling this guy he's like hey listen just so you know like you you got to you got to get the fuck out of dodge if she goes on about this like I don't want you to go in there and try to like be using this to manipulate her like she's going through some stuff and maybe tonight's the night but if not like you know she's my customer I don't know you bitch yeah yeah and he's like
Starting point is 00:56:53 rooting for him too rooting for both him and her because then he says you know maybe you're the maybe you can be the one maybe you can turn her love life around right it's then she won't need the salt or the lime anymore to shoot that old memory down. So it's a great line. Hey, it would hit for me. If you'd be great. I'd love to never see her again. I'd feel bad for her.
Starting point is 00:57:12 And I'd like to see her get over this or whatever. So. But in the meantime, you know, watch out, buddy. Be careful. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's a great song. I love the use of the narrator for that.
Starting point is 00:57:29 I love a lot of a lot of songs like that. when the songwriter is not in it themselves really. Yeah. You know what I mean? I think my favorite example of that is like, you know, Jason Isbell always cited that his big, the biggest inspiration he had in songwriting was when he heard Angel from Montgomery by John Prime because he goes, wait a minute, he's not an old woman, you know,
Starting point is 00:57:51 and it sort of made him realize like, oh, you can write about anything. You don't have to be. Right. It doesn't have to be about you. It can be about somebody else. And that's another reason I love this song is like, he, the, the, The singer is not playing the scorned man or the scorn woman. He's just someone that's like there.
Starting point is 00:58:06 He's God in this scenario. You know what I mean? And I enjoy songs like that. Yeah, I do too. It does hit for me. I just, we got a, was it three, a scale of three earned hearts? Three earned hearts. Yeah, I believe it's scale of three earned hearts.
Starting point is 00:58:22 I think so, yeah. It's been so long. It's been, well, we're going to, that's how it is now. And I personally, I got to give it three earned hearts. Yeah, I mean, I think I will too. you know, been a long time. We're dipping our toes back in. There's definitely a bank, you know, it's like if we have been going this whole time
Starting point is 00:58:37 and doing all these songs, it's like, I don't know where I would rate it with a fresh set of all these other hits in my head and knowing what I had rated them. But having not rated one in a while, this is definitely a top shelf banger for me. Yeah, I wouldn't have picked it if I didn't feel that way. So it's got to be fair in hearts for me. Fantastic song. John Anderson is a fantastic artist. And frankly, we got to look up that, we've got to find that recipe for,
Starting point is 00:59:01 John Anderson barbecue sauce and one of us has to make it. Yeah, I'd like to try to tell you, man. I can't find even hardly much of a mention of it. That's crazy, man. I found enough, found enough to support me thinking that I'm not wrong about it. Right. But not much more than that. But anyway, yeah, that was straight tequila night.
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