wellRED podcast - Bubba Shot The Podcast- Jo Dee Messina: Heads Carolina, Tails California!

Episode Date: April 2, 2025

This week the boys are all back together along with The Indian outlaw himself, Tushar Singh to talk about Jo Dee Messina's classic song Heads Carolina, Tails California! Stay tuned at the end for an essay from Corey that serves as a preview for his upcoming one off podcast about Martin Luther King Jr which will be available tomorrow at WeLoveCorey.com Go to TraeCrowder.com for tour dates! Head to StayFancyMerch for merch!

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Tushar Singh, who was apparently with us, but only in spirit, although he physically was present, but just not speaking, because we didn't allow him to. What happened was. It's very Indian of him. We didn't, we didn't know he was in. I felt like it was a, I felt like it was some type of deportation band holding pen. Yes. Solidarity with the administration. That's what we're doing. No brains. Walk a moly way. But, no, it was just, we're just stupid, computer dumb and didn't even realize he was in there. But now he's back. and to spite Drew, who may or may not show up, by the way,

which that'll be funny. Either way, it'll be funny, in my opinion. But he might be here. He just, he just texted me. He said, been here, please tell him. Well, I don't, I don't know. What the fuck is going on here? There we go.

Okay. There we go. Drew's here. Oh, hell yeah. And two sharks back. So we can finally, we can finally start the goddamn show. Glad, glad everybody's here. Here we go.

Bubby shout the podcast And that's right A show about country At its high Don't expect no shit from two That's five That's right Welcome back surprise

Drew to your own show How's that How's that hitting you? A little curious What's going on here? Well you know In your absence over the time It was hard for me and Corey

To find things to talk about At some point we're like It'd be funny if we just like As Drew's coming back we just start doing Bubba shot the podcast and see, you know, see what he thinks about it. We got Too Sharp here and everything. It is April Fool's Day, but this is not an April Fool's thing. This is just a silly little idea we had.

But, but, you know, Too Shar showed up. Everybody's here. Too sharp. What's up, dude? What's up, buddy? Too sharp. Yeah, someone told me about an hour ago that you guys did it last week. And then I went to listen.

And the only thing you guys is like, he's going to be. going to be mad. The only thing that I was mad about is you were like, we don't know when he's coming back. We don't know what's going on. I'm like, I told you all that I'm going to New Orleans for a month and then you guys were playing it. Maybe it was a K-Fab thing. Like, maybe this will get him to come back the day he told us he would come back. We don't know where he's been. He could be dead or alive. It was like, what? Yeah. I literally was like, hey, I'm going to go there for a six weeks. Well, I mean, yes. But no, it was kind of a cave-fabe thing to me. You kind of, you're a, what's the word, a free spirit type of feller.

So when you're absent, to talk about it as we don't know where he is, he's running naked. Yeah. You weren't here for any of that. It's just a funnier way to talk about it. You are someone that is filled with wonderlust, which is why we picked the song we picked today, which is heads Carolina tells California, because that is a song all about wonderlust. You're the type of person that, you know, I feel like I'm being bullied into doing my own show. that's what it feels like well it's just

let's just can we just pretend that I just brought this song up because I've been listening to it a lot lately I actually never stopped No I don't think I'm gonna pretend I think I'm gonna keep being a dick about this Okay I feel like it's probably what you guys wanted anyway

But yeah I think I'll keep being a dick about it Okay Trey texts me earlier Because we didn't know if you were gonna have known That we were doing this Because he was like I found out like Well I found like an hour ago That you had done it

but I didn't think you're going to do it today. Yeah, and I said, I said, do you got facts to the song or do you want me to do it? And Trey's like, it don't matter. Plus, I'm reasonably confident, Drew is going to derail it. Purposefully, you know.

Yeah, well, no, I'm not going to like, I'm just not going to pretend. You know, like, you guys are like, oh, let's pretend I just brought, nah, I'm good. Okay. Well, but we do have our buddy, too, Shar here.

And I don't know when the last time you guys saw him was, but it's been a minute for me. so too sure how you do it? We got him a white lady. Yeah. And you stopped talking about us? Yeah. Were we three white dudes, were we three white dudes and a negligee for you?

We were your white lady. It was one white lady, yeah. Yeah, I think it was like a pyramid scheme, but I will say. Being white's a pyramid scheme, dude. The Jews got in just in town. You know, it reminds me of her. It reminds me of the wonderlust that people have. and I have a lot of thought.

I just listened to the song right before this for the first time and so the video is I have a lot of thoughts. I also got to jump relatively soon but I'm excited to be back,

fellas. I miss you. Because you do have to jump relatively soon, I say you just get into some of those thoughts. Tell us what you think since you got a time limit here.

I mean, it seemed to me that this lady is never going to be happy because when she gets off to South Carolina or California, she's going to be like, let's head to the Middle East or the far East, and it's going to keep going.

It's a vicious cycle. So that was my core net reaction to the song. Didn't you say that it reminds you of your white girlfriend, your white woman? Yeah. You said, this reminds me of her and then immediately said, this bitch, I never going to be happy. I can tell you that much right now. I mean, I'm just saying it's part of the core wonderless ethos. It's like once you wonder somewhere, it's not like you're dumb.

on it keeps going. Yeah, but for me, for me, though, it depends. Well, I guess this isn't wanderlust. It's a different thing. But for me, if the lady in this song is coming from a place of like, where I'm at, I know it don't hit, you know, so I just want to be somewhere else. That's a different type of thing, in my opinion, you know, because I, you know, I mean, I've always felt that in my hometown, I'm sure.

Right. Like everywhere, like, no. place is as good as you think it's going to be, but everywhere is better than salina, no matter what. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. So I was saying the foundational, like the grass is greener type of thing somewhere else. Yeah, but if it's, but I also share that sentiment. I fundamentally share that sentiment. I'm just like, well, this place can, it just new is better. And I really do believe that. So I empathize. See, we've always operated on same hits. Yeah, but not one same as Salina.

That's true. I think it's a question of does this don't hit I need somewhere else come from this place actually not hitting? Or like a void inside your soul that. And that's probably the difference between like I live in Salina and I have wonder lust. One of the like weirdest, I guess, realizations of my 30s was like, oh, I'm always going to feel this way. It's not the place. like it's not to this, it's not to that. And ironically, like, that really helped, like a lot.

I talked to Trey about this when we were talking about your buddies who quit their jobs to hike the Pacific. You said something to me, like, I always thought you'd do something like that. And I was like, I think I always thought I'd do something like that, too. And I did do versions of it in various countries. And I still felt the same way I felt. At some point, I was like, all right, it's me. Yeah. Well, that's what they say.

But I didn't know that because I was in Sunbright the first time I felt it. So I was like, hey, man, I think there's more to this existence than like one gas station. And the only thing exciting that happens is when outsiders robbed the bank and our locals join the shootout for fun. Like that is a fun Wednesday. Yeah, Charlie Clark, I thought I told you all that story. I had to hide out with us, pretend to be working on our roof all day. So when the cops came looking for him, for shooting at the bankers, by the way. Yeah, I told you guys this story.

I definitely told you guys a story. I don't, well, I mean, there's been so many crazy hometown stories over the years. Yeah. But, yeah, but anyway, I had it. Like, I needed to, like, leave sunbrite, but then I just kept kind of feeling that way. I had a version of Wonderlust. And by the way, Africa, Australia, these places were incredibly formative for me, and I do not regret going. It is wild that the song is like, what about California or Carolina?

Two wildly different sides of the coin there. Yeah, I know. That's one thing I always, because to me, I grew up literally wanting to move to Hollywood from Salina. So I always did love this song, but I was always like, well, not Carolina, though. You know, that's sort of how I always went. She was going to flip again if it landed on tails, dog. Absolutely.

Running back. Best out of three. Messed out of three. Well, it's funny because, like, yeah, when I first heard that song, obviously, like, Carolina just meant, because I was from the South. So Carolina just meant same. There's like, so that way, what are you telling about? Like, that'd be, why would I want to go somewhere that's, like, the same?

But now that I'm older and like if it was like, you know, heads, Raleigh, Carolina or tales, you know, California, I could see myself being torn, you know, like I do like both of those places or whatever. But the whole contention here, she's like, it doesn't matter as long as we're together, right? And so like, to me, that screams young love, you know, that's young love where you really do believe that. You really do believe like it doesn't matter. We could be on the road. And then fucking three weeks later, you're at a truck stop taking a shower because you've been driving forever and you've spent all your money on gas.

And now you realize like, oh, God, like, I was just horny. You know what I mean? Like, I was just really horny. I love to mention that traveling with somebody is a real, real maker birth thing or it can be. There's this girl we used to know a nozzle. She had this thing she'd do like every two years. She'd take her new man abroad and then dump him when they got back. and it started to be like a thing that the ladies were,

they were like, man, she's got some kind of weird fet. And I go, no, she's waiting on one of them to be cool. And then she's going to marry him. That's literally what she did. Shout out, Tess. That's what Bill Murray, Bill Murray gave this advice, which is like very out of touch advice. But like still, I agree with him if you have the means to do it.

But he was telling everybody, he's like, before you get married, travel with this person. And he meant like all around the way. He's like, go everywhere with it. them like travel with them do that and he was talking about like go to china get all this stuff most people can't afford but like i think in a micro sense that would like yeah before you start seriously wanting to take the next step you do need to be you need to get in a car with someone for about two weeks and see how that rolls you know because that really shows you who you are and it's not all

it's not all roses you know what i mean well i think it's just the car not just the car part like meaning me and Katie could not possibly be different travelers, but it's really not that big of a deal. But like in the grand scheme of our relationship, I mean. But like, I remember the very first trip we took together of New Orleans, the minute I realized that she didn't really even care about the food in New Orleans, I was like, well, what are we even doing here? Right. You know, but like drunk anywhere. Yeah, right. But, you know, but again, we've been together for fucking 15 years and we do go places.

You can make it work, but if you're an 18-year-old and you get, you know, you're driving across, you're breaking down on your way to fucking Carolina for some reason from Arkansas, you know, and you end up in a love outside of fucking Cleveland, Tennessee or whatnot. And, you know, that can really put a strain. Yeah, I mean, I hear what you're saying about Katie, but I feel like it's less like I want to eat and you want to go listen to music and more like, will you go with me, though? when we get there, are you going to bitch the whole time? Like, I think when you travel with people, what you learn is the parts of their personality,

they're able to kind of keep at bay in the comfort of their own home or the comfort of their own routine come out. Because, like, it's not like Andy and I like do the same shit when we travel. It's just more like I can stand her day four of a road trip. Yeah, right. And that's like, that's way more important. Because she likes good food, but it's like whatever to her. But I'll take her and she'd be like, oh, that was cool. You know, like, and she doesn't remember the name of it.

She doesn't care if we ever go back, but it was cool. You know what I mean? She was like, thank you for sharing that with me. Whereas, you know, we've all traveled with somebody. You know, it's just like they don't, like, it's the way they travel don't vibe with us. And that can be anything from being at each other's throat just to like, you want to stay at a hop. Now, here's where it'll get you with preferences. Like how you want to live.

Like, fuck like if your interest is food versus music, but like how are you trying to live while we travel? Are you interested in the hostel and going to this like unknown swimming spot on the coast of Italy? Or do we need to stay in a four star and do we have to do every fucking thing in your little tourist book or a mix of that, you know? Right. And I think like the difference between just dating and being in puppy love versus like being a part, being someone's partner and being married is like every now and then you just got to do stuff that you don't want to do because they like it. And, but a big part of that is also pretending not to be annoyed by it. Like, you're just like, okay, we're doing her thing today. I'm going to smile and then we'll do my thing tomorrow, you know, or whatever, which is like, I don't know, when you're dating, you always try to find things.

It's like, no, we both must hit. Things must hit for both of us. But it's like, dude, when we go to like, you know, Helen, Amber wants to go to the goddamn cabbage patch nursery thing. Like, oh, we got to see that. I always wanted to see it when I was good. I could give a fuck. You know what I mean? Corey's like, all right, anal then.

Yeah, right. One you, one me. Yeah, but I'm a go, you know. And you have to act not annoyed unless I asked you to. Yeah, yeah, exactly. But no, you're right. Like, you know, because Amber is the type that she's all about the deal. So she would prefer to stay.

If there was a roach infested motel and she could save $5, she would do it. And I won't. I'm like, no, no, no. I spent way too much time on the road. Like, she's like, but we're not even going to be in here that much. And I was like, yeah, but we're going to be in here for the sleep part. And the sleep part's very important to me. And I need to be in a place where the thermostat's on the wall and the sheets are clean and all that.

And like, we bicker about shit like that, you know. But yeah, you're right. If you, if you're with a hostile person and you're not a hostile person, hostile meaning like the place to sleep in, that's going to fucking, that'll fuck you up. Yeah, going back to the first thing that me and Drew were talking about earlier, I know it's my own personal bias, but I just being in Salina when this song was out and the feeling the way I did about it, I know this song is about a couple

who's going to do this together, but I always, we're talking about like, oh, hitting the road and seeing all the site and doing all this stuff in hostels and hotels and shit. I always interpreted this song

about two people who were in agreement like, we got to get the fuck out of here. No, I agree with that. Like out of here. Where we're at, don't hit. I don't care if it's Carolina or California,

but we ain't right for this. We're right. for each other, but we're not right for this place, and it's time to fucking go. It's how I always interpreted it, which I feel like is a little bit of a different thing. There's no male side to this song, right? He's the one that had the order. Well, all right, that's two questions in a row that I realize we're just designed to like a list of this conversation.

Let me just say, though, I can answer these questions based on a 28-year-old memory, seeing as I was given no time to prepare for this podcast today. I just want to bring that up. I don't think there's a millside at all. No, there's not. Clearly. I don't think so. It's not a male side.

It would be interesting as a duet. I was thinking more like Branson or perhaps Pittsburgh, bitch. Yeah, it would be fun. Or like a 30 years later, the dude writes his version of it, of how that trip changed their life and what happened afterwards. I think it's just a Kenny Chesney song, dude. I think they just got pregnant, and so they had to stay in that fucking town. Yeah.

Yeah, this seems like a prequel to any number of ways, like, Choose Your Adventure, Country Music, hits from men. She wanted to do this, and something happened, and that was the original story of love. Isn't there a Morgan Wallin song? I love you, but not more in my hometown, which as a concept is wild. Are you serious?

That's the concede of it. I don't really know how it goes. Supremely does not it for me. Did you see where he is once again, since this organically got brought up, he is once again the Conservatives Darling because of what he did on Saturday Night Live? Yeah, you mean when he went to Saturday Night Live voluntarily planned for months and then performed every song he was contractually obligated to and then left at the end and pretended like that was some sort of like,

fuck you to the establishment. Yes. Didn't he also tweet something or something to it? He tweeted in his Instagram story. It was a picture of the plane and it said, take me to God's country. It was his private jet. His private, yeah, exactly.

Which like, dude, honestly, it may have just been, he'd already said, hey to everybody and whatever. I don't know. It's also very possible that, like, he didn't get along with a lot of people in the cast because they knew,

they're like, oh, you're the guy famous for saying the N-word. You know what I mean? But it is so funny that they were like, yeah, he's sticking it to the Hollywood liberals. And it's like by playing on their show, you know, like it's such. Well, he did get their money. Yeah, that's true. He did get their money. Well, I don't know.

You may not get paid for that. I think they do. But I'd say, but it's barely anything. It's just like a formality. You have to get scale. Yeah. So he agreed to a huge pay cut to perform lives. Yeah.

Because that was that, that was that joke that when Norm McDonald and Oprah were on. a letterman one night. He's like, hey, me and Oprah are making the same money. Isn't that crazy? Because, yeah, you got to get paid scale. But also, we could interpret, this could be different. I mean, we're interpreted as like this, the couple that's in love, but also it could be like they're having trouble in their relationship and they think they need something

different because, you know, a lot of our people do that with a baby, you know, like they're not having a good relationship and they're like, hey, let's have a child. Oh, those are baby names. Always were. Those are baby names. Carolina and California are what they're going to name the kids. Yeah, because I've always thought like people, people that are like, they're having, you know, they're on the verge of divorce. So they start to, they're like, we're going to have a baby.

And I'm like, that's like if your alternators broke and you get a roof rack, you know what I mean? Like, that doesn't help anything. You just got an extra thing. Yeah. So it could be, it could be that. but yeah I mean different always seems better and going back on what you were saying Drew about you know that wonder lust and realizing that it like never goes away and that being sort of like freeing for you.

I had a similar thought the other day about this whole like oh if I could just be here if I could just be here. I was listening to Shelley Berman on Mark Merrin's podcast. If you don't know who Shelley Berman is, he plays Larry David's dad in Curbier Enthusiasm. Legendary comedian, first comedian to ever win a Grammy. sold out Carnegie Hall, first comedian never do that. I mean,

fucking legend. But the dude spent the entire interview being bitter. He's 90-something years old, bitter that Jack Benny got more popular than him or something like. It never goes away. Right. And so there was always that you hear these people go like,

you know, you always think if you win an Emmy, you'll be fine. But then it's like you want an Oscar. And like hearing him be like that actually was like a huge relief to me to hear i was like oh if it never goes away then just don't entertain it you know what i mean just don't entertain it at all and that's sort of how i feel with like the the wonder lust of like

yeah i mean i'm sure you and amber would be uh it would be a nice like if you move to dc it would be cool but like it'd be over in a minute and you'd be thinking about moving somewhere else and like that's true but a huge difference between that and what you're talking about is it wasn't up to him who got more popular. He did his best than in the car. Like, you can just go to D.C. That's true. Like, you know, I can backpack through the Alps. Honestly, way easier at this point in my life than I can win an Emmy. Yeah, that's true. But I'm just saying, like, yeah, it's just that whole grass is greener thing. But again, all of that is negated by if, if Trey is correct and like they're living in Salina, then they're 100% correct.

I want to talk more about your Rocky relationship. thing. Oh, sorry. Go ahead. I got to go in a minute. But I just want to say, like, there's this, there's this thing that the positive way to look at this is, um, she is aspiring to, for something better. And the song to me is a letter from her to him to say, let's go do this together. Like, it's aspirational in nature.

It's not like, let me. me drag you to this other place because this place sucks. It just felt like let's go conquer the world together. And that is what makes the whole fucking thing run. Like the whole world run on that. It almost has to be anywhere but here is better because she says it doesn't matter where we're going long as we're together. And if that was true, then they could just stay put. But obviously the place sucks.

You know what I mean? Or it's people like getting them down. Right. We need a fresh store. I'm with Tushar. Okay. I, I,

I, too, I'm with Tushar. Too, Tushar. Tushar, what do you, what do you rate it out of three Earnhardt before you got to get out of here? She's,

it's a pretty song. Like, it sounds, it's catchy. I can see how it's, it's like a very catchy song. The hook is great. She's purty. The video's cool.

Like, I can see why it was selected, you know, so let's go, Let's go two and a half only because I'd like to hear the guy's side. That'd be funny. Yeah, Joe D. Messina is a green. Joe D. Messina is a very pretty gal.

And by the way, this song was like a make it or break it for her. Like she was pretty much broke. And this song came her way. And Tim McGraw really believed in her in the song. And he co-produced that album. And the next thing you know, she goes from having, you know, a suitcase full of everything. got to touring with Tim McGraw. So it's also, you know, I'd say probably sentimentally her favorite song.

And Joe D. Messina is wonderful. Did you ever hear Laura Peake's joke where she was talking about the Nashville airport? And she's talking about how like all the announcements they have that are like, it's like, hey, this is Tim McGraw. And, you know, go get your, go get your bags down here and please stay in a single file line. And then Joe D. Messina comes on. And she's like, remember, there's terrorist activity. So if you, if you, if you, me see something, me say something.

I'm Tony Messina. So fucking funny. All right, guys, I got a job. I love you guys. Have fun. I'll listen to this later. Love you, buddy. Matt, too, Char.

See you later, Bay. Do you guys know who Cole Swindale is? I know the name. Okay, I don't. I mean, he's some new country guy. I'm wondering, like, how much does he not hit? Like, does he kind of hit at least? A lot.

Okay, all right, all right. Because he apparently did a take on this song, which I guess was a big hit for him. Is it the man's take? I don't know. It's called, She Had Me at Heads Carolina is what it's called. Oh, I heard that piece of shit.

It's basically just him doing the melody of the song, but adding a couple different things. It's, well, it's actually, I'm pretty sure it's about his love for that song in Joe D. Messina, but essentially what he did was just took the melody, and stuff and just added that's how you know that song hit for me and I fell in love with

country music because of heads Carolina tails California so it's like I mean I could be misremembering but I'm pretty sure that's all it is so it's like not even that creative this guy's probably a fan of ours listening to the show uh super sorry I doubt it Col Swindale I doubt it yeah look up the lyrics to Cole Swindale's thing I have it says I don't think it's literally about O. D. Messina, which, you know, that would a hit, but it's like, it's a song about he's in a bar, he's in like a honky tonk, and there's a lady, a woman singing there, and she sings the song,

Heads Carolina tells California, and he falls head over heels for her is, that's the premise of the song. But I ain't never heard it or nothing. Like, he's like, hey, I got a Chevy. She can flip a quarter. I drive her anywhere from here to California. California. When this song is over, I got to find her because she had me at heads.

Carolina, I guess is how it goes, assuming it apes the melody. Yeah. Also, there's another, I forgot in this, you know, where we're talking about Carolina and California couldn't be two more different places. There's another instance of that in the song when she says, I've got people in Boston. Ain't your daddy still in Des Moines? I got to tell you, could not be two more different places. And all the love in the world to Des Moines, Especially the funny more. Yeah, both, yeah, for sure, very white.

But like, dude, Des Moines, again, it's the best Iowa has to offer. And Iowa people won't even get mad at this because the most I've ever heard a place get shit on is by the Iweijans themselves. There just ain't nothing to do. You got to go to Boston, baby. I mean, if it's a cost of living thing,

sure, go to outside Des Moines, but whatever. Maybe it was racism in a different accent. They wanted a nonsense. Southern racist experience. So they were like, Boston, Des Moines, what else? That's all we got. Huh? It's too fucking cold up there in Idaho.

It's one of those things where it's like, I mean, what else rhymes with coin? You know what I mean? Yeah. In Boston, they're racist, but in Des Moines, they don't have them, you know? It's a toss up. Which one? Yeah, but also, it does kind of work, I guess, with the themes. If you think that it's the idea is like, I mean, she literally says.

It doesn't matter as long as we're to get. So, you know, if that's the theme of it, it could be literally anywhere, then it kind of highlights that by comparing Boston to Des Moines or California to Carolina. By the way, two sharks at South Carolina. I think we're in a group. I've, to me, it's been North Carolina in my head. She says, nobody calls South Carolina Carolina Carolina. Right.

She also, she says up in the mountains. So, you know, and like the mountain part of North Carolina is fucking awesome. And that's why. It just wasn't far enough away from Salina for me as a child. Exactly. But yeah, that's why I love it back with. with like as an adult, you know, again, as a kid, I wouldn't have thought I'd been like Carolina. Why? Because to me, the South was just the South. I'd only ever been in Georgia. But like, yeah, now as an adult, like, if you tell me, I mean, I'm actually, if you're like,

you can live, we'll get you a nice spot in California or a nice spot in the mountains, you know, right outside of Raleigh or in Smyrna or whatever. I'd be like, that all day. Abs of fucking lootly that. You know what I mean? Because, dude, North Carolina, man, some of the most beautiful area in the country. Song was written by Tim Nichols and Mark D. Sanders. Have those dudes come up before, Drew? Nichols, I believe, has. I could be wrong.

That sounds familiar. It was on her a self-titled debut album, Joe D. Messina, and it was for Curb Records. They were looking to break a new female artist into the boom and country sing, and they were like, hey, here's a fire you read. Which, by the way, do y'all know where Joe D. Messina's from? I do.

Massachusetts. Massachusetts. Yeah. And I only moved to Nashville to do country music stuff at the age of 19. Yes, I agree completely. That is unfortunate. I mean, Joe D. Messina and she had these bangers. I never thought she was a Yankee.

Maybe she's Italian. Maybe it's de Messina. No, she is. She is a spaghetti person. She took that apostrophe and she made it a pepperoni. She's half spaghetti, half potato, I reckon. and she's an Irish-Italian is what I raise. That's a good one to be.

I got to say, though, like, of all the people that have done that, like, I mean, that's obviously a common thing. You know, Alan Jackson literally wrote a song, she's gone country about this phenomenon. But of the people, like, Jody Messina had me fooled, dude. I mean, she seems like a very country, I mean, the name. Who's the worst version of it? Oh, man.

Aaron Rogers, when he's got a concussion. When he's got his own pills. on pills. Honestly, if we're going to go non-country, it's Breonna chicken fry for me. I've been on a male. The only reason I do is because Andy watches TikTok dramas and then tells me about him.

She accused Zach Bryan after they broke up of emotional abuse. I'm not denying that he did it. It seemed like he probably did. Then she tried to spin that into like she now has a podcast for victims because Zach Brown broke her

phone and yelled at her and I'm not trying to downplay someone breaking your phone and yelling at you, but I am trying to say that, like, there's probably better spokespeople for the whole slew of experiences there. Anyway, she's from New York or somewhere. She called herself Brianna Chicken Fry, and then, in my opinion, went after our top guy, you know, in terms of fame. She's like a, she's a, she's a Kardashian to me. Is that what she does?

She's like an influencer. She has a bar stool podcast. Okay. And she pretends to each other and you're saying? Well, she has like... Her last name is chicken fry. She changed it to chicken fry. She, I wouldn't say she goes so far as, like, changes her accent up.

She pretends like she's the equivalent of a college gal. I mean, that's the other thing. She's been talking about, like, hookups and all that. She's probably 30... Look, I hate her. Anyone out there who's, like, wants to come after me because, like, she's a victim fine, but I hate it. To me, she's my least favorite version of this. How about that?

I'm not saying... I didn't even... know she's saying. I thought that she was a bitch from Salina who started calling herself Julie Pepperoni and then she started throwing accusations at one of your favorite artist Trey, wouldn't a part of you be like, I don't know, we should take it with a grain of salt. Yeah, dude. Absolutely, man. I mean, dude, there's no river so long. It don't contain a bend as they say. But like, here's my thing. Like, I'm never victim blame. Like, I believe women, all that. Physical abuse. no sexual abuse

no I understand that emotional abuse ain't good but it's like so we can't even talk shit you know what I mean like like dude emotional abuse is what you do every time I think I have a hot take that I'm nervous about I can trust Corey to be like no don't worry I'll make it seven times worse

Che moves out on it emotional abuse is often what you resort to so you don't punch them in the fucking face you know what I'm saying like you got to get it out somehow you can't hit me with it you cannot in that sentence with it, you know what I'm saying. Like, I could have just not responded, but if you hit me with the, you know what I'm saying,

I got to be like, nah, I mean, I'm not saying I've never felt that, but I can't agree with it. I can't say. I'm not saying you should do it. I'm just saying I don't think it's a big enough deal to launch a podcast career. That's all I was saying. And then you tried to make it another thing. I was saying that. I'm just saying what is emotional abuse?

Like, that's all in the eye of the beholder. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like some people get, or like, way more. more sensitive. Like, dude, there's some shit. Ambers has said to me that, like, a lesser man might have considered emotional abuse. But I don't because it's like she was just talking shit. You know what I mean? We were upset at each other. You talk shit. Then you say you're sorry. Like, what the fuck is, you know, again, I know there's dudes who like Tony Sopranos who like literally systematically break women. And if he was doing that, fuck him. But just like, if he was just like,

hey, give me the remote, you dumb cunt. Like, that's not emotional abuse. You know, definitely is. Well, it is. But I, but I, what? That, you mean, give me the most dumb cunt repeatedly. Yeah, unless it's like a funny bit you guys do. You only, you don't say it more than once. Anyway, so, but, but I mean, I do think that, I don't know, it just depends.

It depends. People can be psychos and it can rise to a certain level, but I think generally most human beings, I think, maybe I'm outing myself here, most human beings, I think, have been in at least one relationship in their life that was toxic as, fuck and ari-go was right you're actually physically abusive towards you and that but everybody's like toxic relationships that were definitely emotionally abusive in both directions and you were caught up in it and you were doing it too and it because either defensively or whatever and it's just the thing that humans do unfortunately now if it was completely one-sided in his case and it was

beyond the pale then sure but there's definitely gray area there without a doubt that there isn't when it comes to toning them up over casserole you know I realize I did this, so it is on me. But because I did it, I guess I feel the need to respond. I guess I'm trying to say, like, to agree with what you just said, Trey, I think everyone, when they were younger, especially, like, it depends on how you're raised, I suppose. But, like, a lot of people have to be bad in a relationship

before they can learn how to be good. Absolutely. All I was trying to say, though, was making yourself the spokesperson. And, like, having merch, they, like, made disc songs on Barstool about it. him and I don't want this to sound like it's like situated in my love for Zach Brian because honestly he kind of like got pretty old to me I just like because Andy was telling me about their drama when it was happening I was like so just so I'm aware what you're saying to me here this kid came from nothing Oklahoma like it was

literally in the Navy and about to get out on honorable discharge and launched his own career on YouTube and became one of the biggest acts in the world and has all the guys who he used to open for come open for him puts them on put some on shine and then this self-avowed influencer, this self-avowed influencer, that's what she describes herself as, who's like said on record before, I just want to be famous,

who worked at fucking Barstool, the literal bane, in my opinion, of current Gen Z and millennial right-wing bullshit. Like the alt-round pipeline. And you know all them be emotionally abusing her ass at work every day. Well, they like rallied around her and started writing diss songs.

It was like, no, latched onto a famous guy. And even if he did all that, it's fine for you to be like, this is my story, cool. But like, what I said the ante is what makes me not believe it is how you're centering yourself in this now very public disc track, merch. I'm launching a new podcast. You made it your brand immediately.

I've been around a lot of victims, and that is not usually how they act. She is either the strongest person. I've ever seen in my life. Yeah. Which kind of makes me wonder why it happened more than once. Yeah. Leave. Or this is bullshit on some level. You know, it happened, but you like that it happened because you were taking screen caps, because you were planning it.

As soon as it happened, your first thought was, new podcast. Anyway, we've got way into the weeds, I guess. Well, what if the emotional abuse was just, she said, hey, baby, I think I'm going to change my last name to chicken fry. And he goes, that's the dumbest fucking shit I've ever heard in my life. On that note, a papal admission I have to make here, part of it is my papalness. Part of it is her decision to change your name to chicken fried. This entire time until just a moment ago, I thought we were talking about Zach Brown of Zach Brown band fan.

Right, right. And I was like, he's still that relevant that this is like a, that people are launching careers off of a failed relationship with, I know that he's still hits, but you know what I mean. Zach Brian is like, he's part of the Zite guys. That makes more sense to me. Yeah, he's doing arenas. Right. this whole time I thought we were talking about Zach Brown.

I mean, you know, chicken fried. Fuck, yeah. I mean, you know, I was like, that's like getting his name tattooed on her ass or something. She changed her name to chicken fried. To be clear, her name was that as soon as she started on Barstool. And then that is, I think, how she met him via Barstool. But yeah, again, it's like, it's like Julie Pepperoni being with one of the fucking cats from Jersey Shore. And then, like, having shit to talk about him, you know, and you're like, all right.

Yeah, well, you have. heard it here first folks she's wrong um you going back on you know uh we were talking about you know the salinas of it in the lyric she does say baby what do you say we just get lost leave this one horse town yeah like two rebels there that a call so clearly you know this is a this town don't hit you know situation right i've always loved i think it's a love story it's definitely a love story uh which but you think she's afraid he's not going to to come you think she's scared he's going to say now probably if it's like salina then yeah she ought to be because it's uh it's a it's a it's a tall order it's a tough ask but like

morgan wallen dude that's yeah that's what his song was about i've always i've always loved songs that i interpret it as being what i call salina songs which is just this type of thing someday by steve earl and you know fucking uh me and this road by chris knight and so many others i was about saying most chris nights yeah but this uh that i i i always I always classified this song as one of those to me. That's part of the reason why I loved this song so much. Sure. Yeah.

I didn't know it was a, you know, I found a fun fact, by the way, about the writers. So I brought up Cole Swindale earlier and his song, she had me at Heads Carolina. Mark D. Sanders wrote slash co-wrote both of those songs. What do y'all think about that?

No, it's because they took his lyrics. Oh, okay. He just gets credit for it. He just gets credit for it. And that's how, good call.

That's how much. modern country copies wrap now. They're even doing samples. I have to poop and if I don't go, I shit myself a little earlier. We can talk about that when I get back if you want. This won't take long. I promise.

It's going to come out fast. I believe it. I've always been jealous of your poops, honestly. My poops are pretty good. I know yours too. You both can speed poop and I've never been able to do that. But also I can get the you part where my butt just won't butt. You know.

My butt often just refuses. A song peaked at number two on the Billboard Heart Country. I'll be in 96. I'll be honest with you. I definitely would have had, I would have thought this would have been a number one. For sure. A number one jam.

It's wild, you know, thinking about all the country. You know, and Drew, we'll talk shit about him always gone. He had mentioned like, oh, we're eventually going to run out of songs, you know. And I showed that list of like it was the top 500 country songs from the 90s. and one of my favorite Vince Gill's songs was like number 496. So I was like, yeah, dude, we're not running out of songs. But it is crazy how many songs that are just completely like just in the Zagat. When you think of 90s country, it's synonymous with this.

How many of them actually didn't hit number one? Because you just, you know, you just assume like, oh, that one, you know, that had to have. But what happened with a lot of these songs is there was just so many bangers. out at all times that it was sort of like uh it's like can't all be number ones right it's like the film that's and that's why george straight is unbelievable because his just all were right but it was kind of like the phil mickleson effect uh which is like i'm sure i'm sure you semi know what i'm talking about it's like phil mickleson is great but he played with tiger and right he was before tiger you know like feels a little bit older than him it was like just like phil's going to win every major

Phil's going to do all this stuff. And then right as he turns pro, here comes this amateur name Tiger. And he just happened to be, he was never number one in the world because he was, he had Tiger. He was always number two. And it's just like, ain't that just the way. You know what I mean? Like never, never, Tiger, Tiger was number one. Dude, Tiger was number one in the world for 15 years.

Dude. They, they go, the number one in the world now, they go back and forth every couple months. on who's number one in the world. You know? Yeah, that's wild. I mean, I'm sure, well, first of all, fun fact, uh, this song peaked at number two behind the number one head at the time was my Maria,

uh, by, which is a cover. Yes, right, which is in fact a cover. Yeah. And,

uh, have you ever heard the original version? No. They didn't change it a bit. Really? That's wild. It sounds exactly, Brooks and Dunn sounds exactly like that version,

which is like crazy to me, because like, you know, Brooks and Dunn, it's like, you know, it's like Whalen said, they're like, what makes a song a country song? And he said, if I sing in its country. Yeah. And I guess that's sort of the deal with Brooks and Dunn because in my brain, that song is like undeniably country,

but yet when you hear the original version that was released in the 70s, it's not a country song, but it sounds the exact same. You know what I mean? Okay. Wow, that is wild. So the original, it's a, a pop song?

It's like adult, contemporary, top 40, that type of thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, hold on,

let me, my, Maria, uh, yeah, I got, yeah, no,

I've pulled it up right here. It says, yeah, W. Stevenson and Daniel Moore. Yeah. In 73. Yeah,

I mean, it was just like, you know, a fucking, but it, it's wild that it sounds basically the same despite them being genre.

So they, what, to be fair, I mean, in the 90s, specific, I'm sure they still do it. But in the 90s,

we've talked about this on here before when it's come up. Tree artists used to just, they would just like redo like R&B songs and stuff. And like they would, stuff that was current. Yeah. And they would like,

and they, I mean, they changed it in that. They sang it countryally like with a twang, but like they didn't really change much about it. Like musically or nothing. Yeah, right.

They just kind of did it. But with a twang and now it's a country hit. So, you know, I guess that's, straight out of the playbook, I reckon. That is. I would say that I missed that time, but like if they were to, and now it's funny because

like country artists back in the 90s, they would cover an R&B song, but they would make it a country version. And now it's like every country song just sounds like an R&B song. Like every country love song sounds like an R&B song. And I really like that. Like, I think there was like, you know, they would, they wouldn't do it with just, I liked it better when they did it with the brus stuff but i remember like alabama did god must have spent a little bit more time on you by insane i swear was one that was an all for one song all for one was the brough band

did all that did i swear and then there was another big one too that that boy i think a boys to men song there's a couple brine mcgnaz yeah there's a couple of brine mcgne back at one yeah back at one and then also um that same guy which i think was gary alice I may not be right about that, but I know Gary Allen also did a pop song. It's not that bad. You're just the best I ever had. That was not R&B. That was a pop or an indie pop.

Gary Allen's one of them from that era where country was sort of transition into what it is now that don't hit for me, but he always hit for me. I liked him. That whole album's rad. He's riding a Bronco, but it's the skeleton. Like his first album, he's right. there's a guy right in a Bronco. It's the same view, but it's a skeleton. His wife died of cancer,

and that album gets super dark and he's for me. He also had, Gary Allen had one of those, like, where you know it's like, okay, I know you country, but that,

you're seeing an extra country. Like, it's a real, it's a big put on his, like, country singing accent. I think he's from California, isn't he?

Yeah. I think maybe, like, the country, I think maybe, but like, but to be fair, like the country are parts, like Baker's,

Baker's Field over those places, which like, that counts. No, I agree. That does count. Yeah, I get on that. But let me make sure I'm even right about that. But I was listening. Well, it's Western, right? Country and Western.

Yeah, right. Yeah, well, I was listening to Dwight Yocum, a podcast the other day because he's got a new album out, which is really good, by the way. And he did a song with Post Malone, which is really good. And he was a man, he went on and on about his respect for Post Malone. And like, I'm for Post Malone and everything he's doing. I know some people aren't, but I'm for it because it is, to me, it's genuine. Like, he's genuine.

Like, he don't have to be doing this, but he really does love country music. And Dwight was talking about them sitting down doing stuff for the album and how, like, blown away he was by, you know, Post Malone's knowledge. But, like, apparently when Post first started out, like, that's straight up what he wanted to do. Yeah. When he was, like, nine years old, his dad would drop him off at honky talks and he would play. It's just that then he started screwing around with beats and, you know, got popular. So I got mad respect for that. But anyways, Dwight was talking about like that Bakersfield scene and like how so much of it was because like families from Oklahoma and stuff would their dad would get a job working in Bakersfield doing like either oil shit or some machinery stuff.

And so like there just happened to be a lot of, I guess, expats from the actual South of Midway. A lot of Okies. but a lot of Oakey's, yeah. And so, like, it makes sense that that scene sort of, you know, became that way. Because, I mean, it don't get more country than Buck Owens. And, I mean, he's a Bakersfield guy. So, yeah, that definitely counts. Listen, this don't hit.

But in the interest of just reality, looked it up. Gary Allen's from, like, Los Angeles County, Whittier specifically in Southern California. L.A. County's massive, but it ain't Bakersfield. And it's on the border of Orange County, basically, that tells you anything. But also, he grew up Mormon to boot. So kind of a double. I'm glad his wife died. Double.

Jesus Christ. Is he still Mormon? That I don't know. It says he grew up Mormon. So he may not be actively Mormon anymore. I'm not sure. Also see if that's true because I now wonder if I've confused my 90s croners. That doesn't sound right to me.

I mean, his wife. A big part of being a country. Yeah. Well, his third wife. He was married and divorced two times first, but his third wife killed herself. And, yeah.

So it wasn't cancer. He's redneck. Yeah, she killed herself because he was fucking Mormon and from Whittier. I wonder. I think I'm confused. I think I'm confusing someone who's wiped out of cancer with someone whose wife killed herself is what I've done here, guys. I'm sorry. As long as you're, as long as you're from somewhere that has blue laws, you can be a country singer.

I feel like that's a big portion of it. That and growing up religious, you know. I mean, Mormon's definitely different, but like, I don't know. I go back and forth on those. It's like if someone, like country music is a genre and it's like, you know, oh, like so someone that's born in Los Angeles that loves country music isn't allowed to play it because they're not from Nashville. I don't agree with that.

What I don't like, though, is when they do the whole fake persona. Like just sing the song. You don't have to do the, you don't, you know what I mean? Yeah, here's the thing with all this, though, is like, and not all of them do this. and this may be why. You know, a lot of them wear baseball caps or no hats at all. But anytime you see people in Nashville in their cowboy hat with their West, I mean, Western wear, like, we don't live in the West.

There ain't no fucking cows in Nashville, not big, you know what I mean? So it's all borrowed and, you know, a little bit of, it's a performance. That's true. And I'm, okay, maybe not the wear because I do like nudie suits and I do like all that shit. But I guess like they'll lie about their background or whatever. Sort of like pop a doc, you know, they'll pop a dock it a little bit. And it's like, you know, just don't do that. I saw on an interview the other day that Eminem added actual facts about the actor's life.

Yeah, I saw that there. To the diss to get him to react. That was an interview with Anthony Mackey. Anthony Mackey himself said it. Yeah, and he was saying he was pissed. Yeah, right. He was like, and I was Matt. Yeah.

That's fucking great. You know. I went to Cranbrook. That's a private school. It cuts to him. He's going, damn, I did.

I saw somebody the other day lobbying for 8 Mile to have, somebody needs to adapt 8 Mile to Broadway because, you know, Eminem is only the T away from being an Egot.

Yeah. You think he could play yourself? Well, he won't even make movies if they don't do it in Detroit. I literally don't think he would come to Broadway. But he could sincerely don't think he would do it.

Would it count if he got it as a producer or something? Yeah. Yeah, it's based on if it was best play, it's his original work, so he would win it. But then I'm thinking, like, who could play him? Like, who could do that, you know? We'd have to find somebody. Broadway don't be, Broadway launches people. Broadway's like one of the last places people get discovered.

So we wouldn't need, we'd have to just find somebody. There's some little queer in New York right now. For sure. That's what I was thinking. Some of those theater kids, dude, they're out of this world. Got the hair. That already says the F slurr. Perfect.

Or let Devonsala do it. You know what I mean? go full circle. He's also 60. Mm-hmm. Yeah, him and him and they're both old as shit now. That don't matter.

It does a little bit. In Broadway, you can't see, it's not up close, you know what I mean? We could get a lesbian to do it. That's so true. Get Anna, Anna Taylor Joy. ATG. I don't know if she's a lesbian,

but she's got lesbian eyes, if that makes sense. She just has, she has like a elf eyes, fairy eyes. She's got the eyes of the page. They're all bisexual. She has me. That's where you're confused.

Joe Rogan did a whole thing about those people with those eyes, and that's a result of us devolving as humans and turning into fish. Okay. Well, I'm glad Joe Rogan. Well, I'm glad Joe's on the case. Yeah. Having eyes on the side of your head instead of forward because, you know, I don't know. So we're turning back into fish?

Right. We're turning back into fish. Like returning to the water? That's what the way. Oh, I thought he would have gone. We're turning back into prey route because we're not strong. Hey, this don't have nothing to do with shit, but I won't remember to say it again. You know how that meteor fin to hit Earth in like 10 years or whatever?

It's not. No. There's a 13% chance. I think it's lower than that the last time I saw it. What the fuck ever? When that meteor is supposedly going to maybe hit Earth, that is the same year that demolition man takes place. Nice.

Makes you think. Well, I hope West is not. It's still around to save us. Sylvester Stallone, one of the Hollywood ambassadors. Maybe he'll get a reboot going for the occasion. But now, God damn it, where were we just to? Oh, fish, yeah, going back to the water. You know, that's what whales did, right?

Mm-hmm. They came out. They came out and said, this don't hit about the land. Went back in the closet. It went back in the water. Yep. That's, which is a wild move. Do you have a picture of what a land whale looked like?

Like they got feet and. Yeah. I know what you mean, but that's like a funny question. He's like, yeah, I got a picture of it. Well, I just, yeah, we took one. You know how he'd be Googling. No, I know that you meant a drawing, but you said picture and it's just very funny. I'm thinking of how wild a lot of post.

A bipedal whale would look wild because they're very top heavy. I don't, I think, I don't think they look like. I think it's an ancestor thing. I think there's just cows, dog. What do you got, Trey? Was it cows? They were kind of, this, I mean, who knows how remotely accurate this even is thought to be. But here, this, it's more kind of what I was had in my head.

This thing over here on the right, see that. It's, you know, so it's, it's amphibious, but it's got legs, so it comes out on the land and stuff like that. That looks like the thing from that Chris Pratt sci-fi movie that was on Amazon, them things, the lightning, the things that, you know, remember them things? The Tomorrow Wars or whatever? White Spikes, right? White Spikes, right? Now, white spikes look way wilder than them motherfuckers.

They do. They do. Did that movie hit for you? It hit for me just fine. I liked it. My son, my boys loved it quite a bit. So I've seen it multiple times. But yeah, all right, well.

Joe D. Messina. Found out she's a Yankee's. getting a person, but that's okay. That's fine. Still hits for me. The song still hits for me again. I guess I'll agree with Tushar, I guess, and give it two and a half. It's a big time.

This is a mainstay for me personally in the Pantheon of 90s country. And I know I say that a lot, but, you know, it's a big long list of mainstays. And this one is definitely for me, one of them. Also, shout out to our boy, B.J., who covered this song for his country cover album, slippers, bangers, and certified twangers. He did. It was on volume two, I believe. BJ of America,

BJ Barham of American Aquarium covered this and crushed it. Crushed it. It did a lot of female, uh, female artists on that, which by the way, I've said like, you know,

women have been screwed over in the entertainment business for years and years and years and years, but they were well represented in 90s country and we were better for it. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Well, anyway, two and a half. Heart.

Okay. You know, you think about some other songs that I got to acknowledge are like, if not better, more obviously a classic. And you go, damn, don't you reserve three stars for? Bubba shot the jukebox. And I do, but then I think about like how happy I get when a song comes on and how I always sing it. And I don't necessarily sing along all the time. She's bubbly. She tricked us into thinking she's a Southern Bill.

not just with her songs in her fake accent, but with her personality. It's just a song that makes me happy. I think it's a love song. I don't give a shit about the man's perspective. If he didn't go with her, I hope he's dead. I think it's as good of a pop country song as there can be. I'm going three.

I couldn't agree more. I was going to go like two and two thirds, but then frankly, at first I was like I was going to go two and two thirds because I felt cheated her being, from Massachusetts and all. But she pulled it off so well that I got a bumper up there. And also just the fact that this was like an all or nothing thing for her. I get emotional about that.

And just like it's catchy as hell. The hook is awesome. It's a fucking earworm in the best possible way to three Earnhardt. It's fucking awesome. Only because you brought it up again. I thought of this earlier. And maybe I'm looking at it wrong. And I do appreciate that you've got to spin your own backstory and you get into an interview

and you answer a question a certain way. And next thing you know, that's the narrative. But like, I'm not buying, oh, man, it was so close to being over when Tim McGraw produced my, like. Right. But you might have been a little. It was literally her debut album. That's one of the steps. Yeah, that's like her debut album was produced by Tim McGraw.

And she was like 25 years old. So I'm with Drew on that. Yeah. Like I get that she might have said, if this doesn't work out, I'm moving home. Well, it's like, well, yeah, because you blew it. Yeah. I mean, that was John Ham's thing. Like, you know, that was going to be his last audition that he did.

And then he ended up getting it, which a very interesting story. But that's different. He didn't have to get that role. For sure, for sure. But do you know what, do you know what John Hamm did before he made it big? Yeah. Wasn't he like crew on porn shoots? He was the, and he was in charge of continuity.

Like, he would have to make sure that all, like, like if the cigarette ashtray was in the right spot where someone just came on it or whatever. Well, there's a lot of stories like that. And I'm not saying any of them are bullshit. People like those stories, but like Billy Gardell, very, very, very funny comedian has said that he was, he was giving up and leaving Los Angeles to go be on morning radio in Pittsburgh where he's from. He was leaving the, like leaving the comedy scene and all that. He was throwing in the towel. And he had one last audition.

and it was for Mike on Mike and Molly, the Chuck Lori show, and he got that, and then, you know, now he's been on TV. Now he has a billion dollars. Every year since.

Yeah. We do. We got zimped up and slimmed down too. Good for him. Good for him. I was about saying one of the few, by Drew. He did that in protest of Billy Gardell losing weight.

One of the few fats. Which is funny. One of the few fats that, a comedian that skinned up and still kept hitting at a high level. Like he's got a. But he's still, he's got another network. He still got a CBS show. Yeah.

Yes. So anyways, well, there you go. Trey, where are you going to be, buddy? This weekend, I'm in Lowell, Arkansas at the Grove. And then next weekend is the weekend, April 11th, Knoxville with Drew, who's now gone. And then April 12th, Chattanooga with Cho, who's right there. And then a bunch of places coming up after that. So go to Trey Crowder.com and come see me.

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came into this world on January 15th, 1929 in a modest little house over on Auburn Avenue in Atlanta, Georgia. The South was still stuck in its same old sorrow, sweating under the weight of the sun, and of course, its sins. Sharecroppers bent their backs in fields they didn't own, the same fields their ancestors had once been chained

Cotton still reigned king and Jim Crow was sitting pretty on his throne, guarded by pole taxes and police batons. The courthouse steps might as well have been altars to segregation, unmoving, unchallenging, and of course, understood by all. And it wasn't just the South. All across America, folks danced through life like the music would never stop. Jazz clubs up north, moonshined down in the hollers, stock soaring higher than a preacher's voice on Easter morning. Herbert Hoover had just taken office, all smiles and promises, but the floor was already crumbling beneath him. That same year, the Great Depression came crashing through like a hellstorm. Money gone, jobs gone, red lines stretching down the block, banks falling apart like knockoff Sunday suits, and out in Oklahoma, the wind started sharpening its teeth, getting ready to scrape the land dry.

The world outside our borders? That wasn't looking too kind either. Hitler, the failed painter with a broken heart full of hate, was sneaking his way into power while Germany unraveled. Britain was still stomping around Palestine like they owned it, planting seeds of unrest that would grow into generations of hurt. Stalin was locking up his own people and starving whole regions just to prove, a point. Meanwhile, back home, Charles Lindberg was America's golden boy with his head in the clouds, but the rest of us were being pulled into the dirt. Back in Georgia, things moved slow, but stayed heavy. Black folks in Atlanta's colored neighborhoods were packed into tight homes,

working their fingers to the bone, singing their children to sleep with church hymns and hard truths. The church wasn't just for Sundays. It was the school, the safe house, the stage, and the sanctuary. It was there in those wooden pews that young Martin first heard a preacher sing a sermon like a song, a voice full of heaven, his hands holding back hell itself. His daddy, Daddy King, was up there behind the pulpit at Ebenezer Baptist Church, preaching the gospel with the weight of a people's pain on his shoulders. That's the world Martin was born into, baptized not just with water, but with fire, fury, and a whole lot of of sacred hope. And while that baby boy lay swaddled and unaware, the world had no idea what kind of

force had just arrived. He was born into a country full of secrets, bootleg gin, bread lines, and back alley hangings. But one day, that same boy would stand tall and thunder out a message that would shake the ground. We can be better. We have to be. And Lord knows it was past time. And now for a more comprehensive breakdown, less poetic, of Dr. Martin Luther King's life. He was born January 15th, 1929.