wellRED podcast - BUBBA SHOT THE PODCAST: "Thank God for You" by Sawyer Brown

Episode Date: November 24, 2021

On a very special Thanksgiving episode of Bubba Shot the Podcast we are exploring Sawyer Brown's ode to gratitude, "Thank God For You." A song in which Mark Miller literally counts his blessings seemed perfect for this week.

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Happy Thanksgiving from Bubba Shot the podcast. Me and the boys hope that you and yorn have a good one. And we hope you're counting your blessings. I'm counting my blessings right now. I'm sitting here fully nude. Other than my vintage Bill Elliott cap, it's rad. We have an all-cotton-blin office chair. I'm grateful for that.

If it was leather, my balls would be sticking to it. Yeah, I'm counting my blessings, and we want you to be counting your blessings today. That is the theme of today's episode and song. Count your blessings. First blessing right off the bat, if you're watching this on YouTube, I'm filming this from the chest up. Yeah, you ain't got to look at all that gross stuff. So count those blessings.

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Out there listening It's Bubba shot the podcast First of all, the facts We are doing Thank God for you by Sawyer Brown A request made by Trey Crowder A man who usually Does not thank God for anything

Specifically existing The song was written and released In 1993 Curse God, by the Curse God. That's their second song. Sawyer Brown would not like if you curse God. I think they've gone full Christian now,

but we're not going to get into that much today. June 1993, this was the lead single from their album, Outskirts of Town. It was not Sawyer Brown's first album. As always, go listen to the song right now. This song did reach number one in the Billboard Hot Country charts and on the Canadian chart. They always include that in these Wikipedia's as if anyone gives a shit.

It was written by Mac Mac, Maconale. What a great name. He's got Aynne on it. He's a big deal, Aeney. Mac McInelly is a pretty big deal as a producer, songwriter. He's had his own, I think he's put out, I looked it up, 10 albums, I think it was, himself. He's had a few hits, but most of his success

has come as a producer and songwriter for both Jimmy Buffett and, I guess this is not a coincidence now that I think about it, Kenny Chesney. Two of Kenny Chesney's biggest hits were not just written by McInelly. They were actually covers. And one of them specifically surprises the hell out of me back where I come from, which we were probably doing this podcast unless it came out in 2000, which may have, by Kenny Chesney, is a cover, which blows my mind.

I think they changed a few lyrics with the East Tennessee. You know, I'm in East Tennessee. Yeah, dude, that song, shoof. I know it. Growing up where I, yeah, and Clay County, in that song was just like the anthem, the undeniable anthem. I never knew that was a cover either. That's wild.

Well, today we are doing, thank God, for you by Sawyer Brown. Sawyer Brown is one of my favorite 90s bands. If I'd have my druthers. So we were looking for a song that was a little bit Thanksgiving themed. And I had a much worse suggestion until Tray came through with this banger. We were going to try to work in Great Day to Be Alive, which is kind of a song about being grateful. But Travis Tritt put it out in 2000, so it would have been.

been cheating. Yeah, well, you found a loophole, apparently. There's a Daryl Scott song originally. Well, yeah, kind of like McAnally. Yeah, right. I never knew that either. But apparently the original Great Day to Bill out in 1997. But I do feel like even that would have been a little bit of cheating because the version

that everybody knows is the Travis Tripp version, which came out in 2000. I've been to Darrell Scott's farm on the outskirts of it because he's heavily involved and what's that, Hippie Jacks Festival. He lives right by where that happens. Oh, no shit. I didn't know that. That's back where I come from. Hippy Jacks is the neighboring county to where I grew up.

It's very close. Well, yeah, so what I was going to say is, he's tight with that guy, and all I was going to say is I've been to the farm that Travis Tripp paid for by making that song a hit because it was huge. Well, let's get into Sawyer Brown. My favorite Sawyer Brown song is definitely, Some girls do. This is probably my second favorite.

Yeah. And I brought up some girls do for a specific reason. I want to start with the video. Have you guys watched the video? Yeah, I finally did this week. I remember to watch the video. I found it humorous. It's a little homo erotic.

Yeah. When I watched it, I was actually on the phone, but I had it like geared up to watch. And so I just played it without any music. And that shit. So funny. At one point, it's like, okay, they rented out of space and they're just, you know, they're giving it at all and it's kind of choreographed and it's fun.

And at one point he gets a towel and he throws, he plays with a towel and he put a little like slats. He flips one guy in the butt. Yeah. Yeah. And then covers another guy's head. Yeah. Well, that's just classic locker room antics right there.

Nothing gay about that. That's homosexual. I would say most. I would say most. And you may be, you may be being ironic on purpose. I would say most locker room antics are homo or rob. It felt like the,

the editor just left in some bloopers as kind of a gag. Like, you didn't have to add those parts. And it could have held it on. I want to talk about his dancing. And then white, tight blue jeans. He's got the Springsteen jeans on. He's got a Philly shirt tucked in,

which he ain't from Philadelphia. Yeah, that was a wild. choice, I thought. You got to go Braves, you know, I would think. But, yeah, his, like, his day, I don't know, they feature

his dancing very prominently throughout the video. That's really all, it's clearly like they didn't have a huge budget for the video, that Tushar said. They rent it out of space. It's like lightly choreographed. They kind of just are in this space, jamming, and there's a couple of Wemmer's there just because the song is about

women's kind of. But there's two. Wormons, which we're going to get to. And he sings this song about both of them. Yeah, right. He just kind of dances around. And it's like some of it I was laughing at. And some of it I was like, you know, I don't know. I feel like he kind of toes a line between like, it's not like it's utter incompetence.

It's just like, yeah, but it's like, but the style and everything. It's both funny and like, like, you know, oh, okay. you know, you're doing, you're doing something. You're doing a thing there. A little chair move. He did the little chair move. He just step up on the top of it and ride it to the ground or whatever. Buddy, when he jumped up on that cooler, I about died.

I thought he was going to fall. Right. So it's like, this guy's like a frontman. You know, let's do it's a performer. You know? Yeah. Like, they were an old school sense. Everybody knows a white guy from Florida, and that's where Mark Miller's from,

who can dance a little bit. And I think he had like real 1998 spring break at Club LaVila vibes, in my opinion. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. He definitely had of all the people that, all the singers that we've listened to on the show. He was the one that I would want to like hang out and have a beer with. He would be just the best, it feels like he'd be the best time. No?

Lately, I mean, Christian, Scott. Christian, Christian, Christian, Christian, Christian, Christian, aside. Yeah, but that's the thing. It's hard to put the Christianness aside with most Christians. I don't know what's up with them today. Apparently Drew does and it's

unfortunate because you hate for anybody who rocks to ever find Jesus you know, but I agree. Also, like he took his hat off at one point and he's kind of balding. So I imagine he just straight bald at this point, but like that was also, that added a little element

to it. It's like I probably would have left the hat on, I guess, because he's been very you know, he's being very smooth and sexual and putting all his moves on display at one point and then just, I don't know. Him being like kind of impressive while also being funny, it really fits that whole motif when he takes the hat off and he's like also baldy. I think that this was, whoever came up with this being attempting to make that his thing was correct to do so.

All right, I have a theory that I've come up with on Sawyer Brown doing my research for this. First of all, if you go back to the 90s, men in country were getting away from the sexy for the most part. I mean, Brooks and Dunn, you know, they had a feathered hair and a tight jeans. Everybody had the tight jeans. Dwight Yon was sexy. But he was like Hollywood kind of. It was like, well, you know, Dwight went out to California, so he's allowed to have sex. And everyone else was kind of doing, you know, there wasn't no Kwanway-Twitty.

You know what I mean? Like that space was no longer occupied. Their other first single that they did a music video was some girls do. And I brought that up earlier for a reason, not just because it's my favorite song Your Brown song. The whole song is what you just touched on, Trey. It's like being impressive but also goofy. The whole song and video, and we'll do that one in a later episode,

is, you know, I'm not for every girl. A lot of girls don't like me. But hey, buddy. Some girls do. Right. And the whole thing was like all girls like you. You're a fucking country music singer who's pretty good looking on a video. But what you're doing, and we've talked about this before,

is making girls feel like you're accessible. You're the hot guy who's not too far out of reach. Well, I think they were-dudes, just like country boy dudes, feel like, you know, yeah, I can, I hit for some dumb chicks. I mean, that's why I use it as my walk-up music. That's exactly why I choose it as my walk-up music at Most Well Red Shows. Listen, I know what I am, but some people, they got a thing for guys. Some people are into it.

Did you find anything in reading about this about, I always, as a kid, up until, like, relatively recently, I always thought Sawyer Brown was just the name, Mark Miller's name. You know, like, no, right. That's just the name of the band, but it feels like a very, very. Okay. So before we move on to that, I just want to say that I think, I do think it was a specific decision. Before we move on to that,

to finish out this theory, I think they were trying to make Mark that guy. I think that this was all on purpose. This dancing, you know, that was what they were attempting to go for. I think they were trying to make him hot and like a, you know, what's the word I'm looking for?

A heart throb. I'm not sure at work. I think Billy Ray Cyrus came through and just obliterated the whole lane. but yes we're going back to their name I have read this before and I have forgotten

the answer but there is an answer that Sawyer Brown is the name of the band yeah it's not the name of any of the guys that are in the band it's just the name of the band which I didn't know forever I just always assumed Sawyer Brown was like George Strait or Clint Black

or whatever but it ain't I'm trying and I'm going to look it up because it's not in their Wikipedia, but I have read this before. He kind of looked like in the video at some points. He looked like Michael Keaton to me. Yeah, I'd say that a little bit. A little bit like generic white man face. He's got Michael Keaton, and as he's aged, he looks like Michael Bolton.

So they were Don King's Road Band, and Sawyer Brown Road is close to where they grew up. So it's a little bit like Leonard Skinnered, which is funny because they're from a similar part of Florida. Yeah, but I guess because it sounds, I never ever thought Leonard Skinnerd was like Robbie Van Zanzan's name or anything. You know what I mean? Did you say Robbie Van Zand? Ronnie. Ronnie Van Zand. Sorry, Ronnie Van Zand's name.

We should make a Robbie Van Zan character who's an illegitimate child of his. Yeah. Just Florida trash. He's got a skateboard and a meth habit. Well, we weren't recording earlier when I told you all that I had the COVID booster shot and I'm going to blame it on that. lest my father and papa returned from the grave and, you know, smite me for

shaming my family name for saying the wrong name when talking about Leonard Skinnerd. Anyway, I never thought Leonard Skinner was a dude. Like, I was surprised to find out that that was a person, even though he wasn't in the band, their gym teacher

or music teacher or something like that. Leonard Skinner was his name. It was a gym teacher, but it also became, was a gym teacher. It was a gym teacher, I don't know what the word is. You know how we say hits? Yeah. It became one of their things.

So that guy was a hard ass and it was hard on him. And he would say stuff it didn't make sense, apparently, when he got mad. So if somebody was doing that, they'd be like, he's going Leonard Skinner on us. All right. Yeah. Okay. So Sawyer Brown Road. Yeah, Sawyer Brown Road.

That's it. They were Don King's Road band. So Sarger Brown, probably that, presumably that was a dude. He was probably like the mayor of. that wherever they grew up at or whatever the fuck. I'm sure Sawyer Brown Road is named after some old racist, I'm sure. I was about to say a racist or a slave, dude, down there in the part of Florida that had plantations. It was either the guy who owned the plantation or like the guy they killed on that road back in the way.

Might have been a gator man, you know. That's good. It's a gator man. You know. Gator man. Down there in Florida, you got to have gator man. You got a gator problem. Who you're going to call to you, Char?

You're going to call the gateway. Got a plumber, electrician. He's a Gator. Who are you going to call? Gator, man. There's probably a company, companies, you know, using that term loosely.

Don't say that. The government don't know. Yeah, there's an outfit somewhere in the Everglades called Gator Busters. I'm about guarantee it. Yeah. Robbie Van Zant is the CEO of Gator Busters. Gator Busters.

And we're going to have a whole thing. We're going to have a whole series created by the end of this episode, boys. Well, let's get to some lyrics. We're almost 15 minutes in. We haven't even started on this song's lyrics. Well, I've been called a self-made man. Girl, don't you believe it's true? I know exactly how lucky I am when I'm getting this close to you.

It's high time I'm giving some praise to those that got me where I am today. And then we got the hook, and it's a great hook. I got to thank Mama for the cooking Daddy for the whoopin The devil for the trouble that I get into I got to give credit where credit is due I think the bank for the money Thank God for you

Now when I was little And this came out And I didn't know about love or none of that bullshit I thought he was literally thinking God for the bank Okay He says I think the bank for the money Thank God for you There's the last thing

I think he's like saying, I think the bank for the money, thank God for them. Thank God for you, bank. Okay, well, I mean, kids are dumb, so sure, you know. It's the phrase, it's the way, it's the way the rhythm of the song goes, you know. There's no end. It's a run-on sentence, God damn it. There's some real, like, real insights into our culture, I think, in the chorus of this song here. We've got Mama for the cooking, you know, because that's what my, that's all Mama does,

is cooking, clean, and everybody knows that. She does something else later. Yeah, right. Yes, you're right. And then Daddy for the whooping, you know, I wouldn't be the man I am today if I didn't get abused as a child by my father who was probably a drunk. Dude, that's so funny. DJ and I were talking about the Amish earlier on the end of the Abisket, listening to the Abisket podcast, and how old men, now that the Amish are in my area,

old men will romanticize what is just child abuse. They'll be like, man, they've got five, six-year-olds working in their sawmills. One of them ain't even got a finger. He don't even care. I'm like, what did you just say? It's the same thing with, you know, we do it to ourselves. Like, I got hit as a child. Isn't that wonderful?

Yeah. Dude, I used to, before I had my own kids, I 100% was like, you know, hell, it's good for them. Like, I used to think that until I had my own kids. And I was like, don't feel right, just beating the shit out of this. Which I didn't do. I'm saying so I didn't do that because I was like, oh, this is, this would be fucked up. I physically assault this small child.

And I just, I did a complete 180. Before I had kids, though, I was like, that's fucking bullshit. World's going to stuff. Like, you got, how else are they going to learn? God damn it. I got whooped and I turned out fine. All that shit. That's another reason you shouldn't have kids at 17 or 18 or whatever.

I mean, I don't know. I was 24, but. Yeah, but that's a big, that's a leap. Them six years there. Yeah, 1724 is a huge difference. But that's kind of the point. I'm saying I still very much thought all that shit, but having actual children change that. I think I thought it until I hit my dog.

Yeah. And it's like, if you can't hit a dog, you ain't, you shouldn't, you should, you know, if you believe in your heart, you shouldn't hit a dog. dog, then you should have been a kid. I also, you know, like, I've had so many country boy buddies who like swore by just whooping a dog's ass boy. I remember one of them. Why?

To train it. Like, they were like, that's the only way to train a dog is to beat its ass. They used to say, like, pain retains is what one of them used to say all the time while he was whipping his dog. Animal rules. Yeah, like just beating the shit out of it, dude. That's the only way they'll learn. All right, Tushar, I want to hear about, you know, they call that corporal punishment?

Is that the psychological phrase for that? Corporal punishment, yeah, yeah. India, what do you got? Corporal punishment, big thing, not a big thing? You guys beat your slaves, I know that. We have slaves. The abuse comes, I think, in the form of, like, when I would go back to India as a kid, I would watch my uncles treat the service.

like they would just get fed up and it would just be the same thing that you do with the dog eventually you're like god damn it how many times have i told you and so like there's a physical beating but that psychological beating is like it's it's heavy you know it weighs heavier in the air than the physical beating to some degree oh yeah what about children like parents children children children you you hit you hit and i think i think in india education is such a big part of like the economy. There's so many schools and there's so many people wanting to go to school and there's so much work to be done and all that stuff that it's a real business there.

And so I think the teachers there have like more power. Like, you know, here it's flipped in the last whatever 20 years ever since we were in school. When we were in school, the teachers had like paddles. Paddles and the parents would get them. They would also put names on the paddles or like I would like drill on. a hole into the panel for every child. Personalized it. Which made it hurt.

Wild shit. It's like the hits that you put on a football helmet, you know, the stars. Yeah. Yeah, that's where we got that. That's fucking so wild, man. But it's true. Like a serial killer. Yeah.

Yeah. But there's a certain amount of trust there, I think. In terms of, I think there's capital. I should know this, but there is like, you know, there's capital punishment in India so you could get death penalty but I'm sure there's a long crowded line everyone's all jammed up to get the murder the murder clip yeah to get back to the song real quick the one part of this that I love when anyone does is when you you blame the devil for bad things yes I was in it yeah that's the next part it's like that's also a huge part of the

culture. It's like all the bad stuff I do, that's actually the devil that's making me do that. But he's like, what hits about this is, he's being grateful for that. He's like, you know, all them kick-ass times I had, railing all them whores and getting drunkard and fuck and all that. Thank you, Satan, because that all hit for me. It's sort of the context in which he uses it, which is great, in my opinion. I do. It's also a trip in our culture, too, and I like how he sort of flips it a little. Yeah, right, for sure. I do wonder what you think, Drew, about the bank line, because I kind of feel like it's more of a trope in our culture to shit on the bank or hate the bank. You know, bank man is the bad guy or whatever. Like, it's, I feel like it's acting like the bank hits.

It's like, this is coming out of the 80s, I guess. And not only that is that he's closing it with, I mean, the reason that Drew thought it was, he's thanking the bank. It was the last thing he says. He didn't close with his girl or, you know, like any of his mama. He didn't close with any of that stuff. It was like the bank and then thank God for you. Well, he does close with his girl. He thanks everybody else for all this other shit.

And then the last thing is thank God for you. And he's talking to his woman. But again, in the video, there's two of them, which is funny. We'll get to that with the two of them. I do want to talk about this bank thing. I have a lot of thoughts. you are correct that there's a big trope of not trusting the bank, not liking the bank. Now, I will say some of that comes from like not being able to get a loan from the bank when the farm's going under

or not being able to get more time. So also the bank used to be a less nationalized thing, I think, in the South, or at least in people's minds. I don't know if it was ever true, but like Mayberry and that whole thing, it was like there was the town banker. and you wouldn't go in and it wasn't as formalized. He just, he, it was always he, had a feeling. You know, it was like, this is how much it makes and I'll work hard.

And it was kind of up to him to give you a loan or not. It wasn't quite as regimented. So I feel like it comes from that. Like the bankman is a neighbor who believed in me. And so I think him, you know, but it says bank. It doesn't say bank man. But secondly, there's a thing in the South, and it's happened with cops. It's happened with jobs, and it's happened, I guess, with banks.

Clearly, here's some evidence of it where we lost a huge part of our, these motherfuckers ain't to be trusted and they don't like us and we don't like them. There's a huge thing in the South, and it probably started in the 90s right now of being leery of unions and not trusted unions. There's a huge thing in the South of loving cops. And hell, I guess there's a huge thing in the South of being like, God the bank is exploiting us. I don't know. I mean, the cops think, you know, I used to have a whole bit about that.

That's definitely a true and disappointing turn of events. The union thing is too, man, right to work. Yes, I agree. Yeah, for sure, that too. But I don't, I don't, I feel like this is just like they needed another thing in the lyrics of the song. Right. And it's like money. Money is a good thing to be grateful for.

But he can't be rich on his. own. He's got to be a working man. Everybody's got a mortgage. It also does the lyrics do a kind of interesting thing. I give credit where credit is due. Then talk about the bank. So the bank gave me credit. Like it kind of, it's kind of really great like lyric structure in that way because it flows. But yeah, I feel like it maybe it was maybe thought of while writing be like, oh, what else? What else? Rather than this is what I feel or something. Yeah, right. I don't know what the prime mortgage lending market. was doing in 1993. I mean, look, dude, I haven't turned into a full-on communist yet.

I teeter ever closely every day. But, like, I could see someone, even, you know, a country person in a healthy society, like, yeah, I'm really glad I got this mortgage. I don't have $200,000 lying around. And this is a fair deal. I don't know. I'm just, I'm trying to, probably just what you said, Trey. It's probably just like, well, we need another line.

It just occurred to me that we haven't explained why Cho ain't here. So he's on his way to Iowa to be battered by the wind and need a shitload of corn or whatever. That's where all his in-laws are from and it's Thanksgiving week. So that's what that's about. I just felt like at some point we should address it unless people ask the question. Well, it is our Thanksgiving episode. We're talking about what we're grateful for. So, yeah, I guess we should have mentioned up top that we're grateful for Cho.

I wish he was here. Oh, I miss him. Shit. Can you guys hold the floor down for two seconds? I got to answer this, it's my mechanic. Yeah. Sure. Yeah, yeah, why not?

Go for it. Thank God for you. I love, I... Well, just what's your, I don't know, what did you think about this song and or the video? I don't know. The first time I saw it on mute was incredible. Yeah.

And then you added the lyrics, and it was it was just a good, it was like to feel good hearty thing, but every time he mentioned God or the devil or Lord, a greater plan, the next lyric is going to be,

I'm part of a greater plan. I'm like, oh, shit. Yeah. Relax. You know, so there was part of it where I was like, man, this guy really had me going at the beginning.

and then knowing now what I know about what it takes to film something. Yeah. Like if I was watching this through young eyes and I didn't know how things were filmed, the video is just almost sad. Like that was a sad day of filming to me. Like, you know, like there was something about it where like, oh, there's not even people there. Yeah, it was very shoe stringy, you know, not a whole lot to it.

They got a couple of ladies to show up. They put the band in there and had them, you know. Where would you listen to a song like this? Is this a family song? Like, this is everyone, because this seems like a family-friendly Disney song as far as country songs go to. I mean, dude, I feel like most of them were that in the 90s, especially. None of them were very, like, risque or anything.

really yeah i mean i'm not like gritty there's a pretty ones or like things about more about bitches than normal but this was about like god country basically like this was like yeah well there was a whole lot of that but i like so you know people used to listen to the radio like and this was my mom whenever i would be with my mom as opposed to with my dad because my dad hated country music but when i would be with my mom or with like friends of mine too because it was such a huge thing country radio would just be on and this song was just played on it you know what i mean like uh so just got a lot of air time yeah anywhere and everywhere yeah um but all that god and jesus stuff also super don't hit for me uh at all but it's like i just take it for granted when it comes to

this type of music because it was just all over the place with country music for so long i always uh I always have the rapper comparison. It almost came off as like a mace. Yeah. He was like Mace. Mace found the Lord and lost his hitting this in my opinion. That first Mace album, Harlem World, I know we're taking a bit of a detour here,

but that's fine because it was a 90s rap album. At first Mace album, Harlem World, was the fucking shit, top to bottom bangers. It hits so hard. Mace was like, oh shit this guy's going to be around for a long time and then he found the lord and stopped hitting immediately and ain't never really hit sense so you know what's that tell you whereas i feel like a lot of times artists they'd stop hitting and then adopt the lord you know what i mean like i think it's a way to

like cope with their failure or something yeah yeah or coming back to earth it's also a place to make money and remain relevant in that world. Oh, it's an in-built audience. Yes. And you have a name. So I almost feel bad for people who genuinely want to make it in the Christian music world. But how the fuck do you compete with Mace?

Yeah. You're already a fucking Christian rapper. The other thing that I noticed when reading Sawyer Brown's Wikipedia is, and I'm not surprised by this, they were like at the time, They were considered, I saw in quotes on their Wikipedia, like bubble gum pop of country music. Like they were like as poppy as it got back. That's why it was dancing. And they got criticized for that a lot and everything.

And I'm just saying that we go back to this argument all the time across all of the podcast. We've done it on well read a bunch. But it's like this was as poppy as country music got in the early 90s. And I feel like if you compare this to pop country today, day, Sawyer Brown is infinitely more country-ish, in my opinion, than fucking marshmallow. You know, or the other people that are fucking half-ass rapping on country radio today. You know what I mean?

It's just wild the way that it's... I wonder if that's why they covered George Jones. They have a really good cover of... Is it called the Racism? In the Racism. I wonder if that's why they did it. I can see that being... like a label move.

They're accusing our boys of being too poppy. Well, we'll have them cover the most country some bitch there is. Anyway, let's finish these lyrics. I assume you guys did not while I was away being told how much I'm getting fucking reamed by Toyota right now. Second verse and second hook, which he

switches a little bit. A strong heart and a willing hand. That's the secret to my success. A good woman, I try to be a good man. A good job. Lord, I know I've been blessed. I'm just part of a greater plan. It doesn't matter which part I am. Now, as the aforementioned Jesus stuff that don't hit for Trey, aside,

I do think there's a good message in this couplet verse, whatever I'm supposed to call it, where he's saying he's taking a little bit of pride, but the good kind, I've got a strong heart, and I'm willing, and that's the secret. I've got a good woman, and I've been blessed, and I know that whatever part I play, it's good enough for me. You know, there's humility, but also a little bit of pride there. But in the video, when he says the line, I try to be a good man, he sings that to the second woman.

And that cracked me the fuck up. It was almost like he was like saying to all the old boys out there. Look, dude, you've done your best. If you only cheated once, what the fuck, man. Good job. You've tried your best. For the record, two shards one that brought up. you were gone, he mentioned all these

jesus lines in this verse and was talking about how that don't hit and I was agreeing with him, but I just wanted him to get the credit for hating the Lord first. You got to give credit where credit is due. That's right. We think too sharp for the racism, that's why he's the one who said you. Yeah. Bull tide.

I think the part I like about the second he said, the part of a greater plan, my mind obviously, as my role on the podcast perhaps, was like, oh, this guy's giving a little nod to a little manifest destiny. You know? Hey, man.

The reason that's wrong is no good old boys know what manifest destiny is. It doesn't matter. It's in their blood, but they absolutely know it in practice. But I'm not sure they would hear that and think, eh, maybe. Yeah. Yeah. It's just what I thought. White people are coming about a greater plan

they're in service of it. Probably ain't something to hits for anybody else, you know, generally speaking. That's also true of Christians. Like when I hear a black Christian, I'm like, that's not going to hit for me. Somebody getting subjugated or oppressed or whatever. Yeah, you'll have that.

But it seems like on the subject of this verse and how sort of Jesusy it is, maybe they was always like that. Like you've alluded to the fact that they're all super, Jesus E now. But maybe they were always kind of into that. I don't know. I mean, again, this stuff was always part and parcel to country music.

I'm sure it probably still is. Jesus comes up a lot. So easily the least isn't part of the whole deal. But like, you know, I don't like maybe there's some indicators here of their future aspirations vis-a-vis the Lord. Yeah, I mean, I think that's possible. And I was just looking to see to make sure that I was correct. Don King, who they were, now not the, not the, you know, black Don King.

Don King, the country musician, who they were the road band for, for a long time. And he launched Don King Music Group. It ended up being one of the biggest studios in Nashville. I think they did a lot of, yep, Oak Ridge Boys. They did a lot of religious stuff. So they may even got their start because, you know, they were in that circle, that world. Yeah.

All right, well, let's do the second hook. Because he changes it up a little bit. Now, I don't know how you all feel. I really like it when they change up a hook just a little bit. But it has the same basic structure, but we've got different stuff. This time, we got to thank Mama for the teaching, daddy for the preaching, still the devil for the trouble that I get into.

I've got to give credit where credit is due. I think the bank for the money. Thank God for you. you gave mama a new job. Yeah. This reminds me of my parents. It's a little more credit than just, you know, making a casserole or whatever.

She's cooking and teaching and the daddy's whooping and preaching. Whooping and preaching. And the parents. Thanks still doing the same job. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, this is your parents,

how about that? I mean, this is a lot of people's parents, you know, at this time and of that generation and whatnot. That's what I'm saying. It's like it definitely fits. There's a bunch of kids that got hit with Bibles.

That's a fact. And it sure as hell ain't mine. These are one of them things. What did they hit you with a bomb? You hit with the Bible? What does that even look like? Well, I was making a joke about a preacher of beating the kid. But I mean, you know, it's a pretty thick book.

And I don't know if you know this. You don't bruise if you get hit with a book. We need to cover by Delia by Sammy Carshall in the future. Hell yeah. Because there's a line in there. about that. I just, too shard needs some more Sam and Kirchall in his life.

We got to get around to Samma Kirchall. It's never been true. My, ever since I've started to do this, I've said this a few times on the podcast, I think, but my YouTube suggestions are wild. And they're wild, but especially like after today because I listen to a few and then it'll just be there in my feed forever.

But sometimes when I'm listening to like the Carter 3, I'm in it, and the next song will just get into like the gambler, Kenny Rogers. Which is kind of like it's gangster. It is gangster. You got a no one to hold him, no one to follow him. That's a gangster ass song. It is.

It is. It's a Carter's three or part of the family. Yeah, yeah. I would like to hear a mashup of like ring of fire and, you know, I don't know, lick you like a lollipop or something. Oh, yeah, that would be amazing. Hit them up and ring of fire. Go ahead. If somebody has something, if not, I'll move on.

We can move on. Okay. we're back to another two-verse song and i got to say i again impining for a third verse i don't know if i've been trained to do that by the beginning middle end of western storytelling or that a lot of pop songs have three verses i'm not sure what it is but i'm not saying the story's not over there's almost no story here i mean to be honest we chose this one again because it is Thanksgiving and this is a song about showing gratitude for stuff.

Yeah, but the story here is admittedly a little thin. I mean, we've got the backstory. He grows up in a family where his dad's a preacher and his mom teaches him and cooks and he's got a woman and he's doing the best that he can. It's very relatable. This song is really being thankful to the devil primarily.

That's true. For giving you all these things. It's just about being thankful for just literally everybody. for everything. Like, you know, be thankful to both Satan and the Lord as well as the bank and your parents and these hoars. Shout out. What? I wonder if it created any controversy back then.

You can't be thinking the devil. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. Your name should be Sawyer White. But it's like, I think that like, like, I think that like, it's definitely implied that he's enjoyed the trouble that he gets into for sure. But still, like, what he's saying is, all the bad things I do are because of the devil, which I feel like most Christians,

it's one of those stupid things that they believe, you know? It's the best. The best loophole in the game. Yeah, I actually say that's one of the smarter things. Yeah, that's true. That or the next dumbest slash most brilliant. thing would be the confessions. You just got to say you're sorry and you're good.

Say you're sorry. It's fine. It's no biggie. That's a double-offord, though, because the fact that you have to be sorry for existing, which is a huge part of it is like real gnarly. That's a gnarly thing. Original sin is like a bad, like a black mirror episode. It's like, what? What are you talking about? Yeah, you got to sacrifice

my son to me because I'm mad, and I can't forgive you for what you did. The whole confession thing, is that just Catholics or is there other types of Christians that also do that? The confession thing is Catholics and I think the Anglican Church, which is a political offshoot of the Catholic Church. And the Russian Orthodox, which is also a similar thing. But in Protestant churches, there's a similar, you know,

you are saved by asking God to forgive you. And then like, dude, you're in. Like according to the faith I was raised in guys, I'm in. Like, I'm fucking in. Yeah, you got the... You know the owner. I know the owner's done, personally. Too sure.

He came in my heart. Yeah. We always ask about, like, this song and, you know, what the equivalent of this is in India or whatever. I mean, we kind of touched on, you know... Whatever, it's funny. Beating slaves earlier. Yeah, before you...

Before you... answer, the song that we're going to do next week, and we recorded them out of order. People are going to hear it next week, but we will have already recorded, you know, you guys get what I'm saying. There's like references to God in there, too, so it's not just like shitty Christians

doing it. No, no, no, I don't think it's, I think it's, I don't, what else are you going to talk about? Yeah, right. It's like, love, sex, God, yeah, you're right. But yeah, what's the like, what would the Indian equivalent of this song be like how would the you know because it's just gratitude the big part yeah i think

thank chiva for this thank whoever for that it's like it'd be a lot longer wouldn't it there'd be like 37 yeah one verse per arm versus yeah one verse per arm hey for finger um there's the uh i'm trying to think that i'm trying to think that the song isn't really patriotic. There's a lot of patriotic songs in India that are kind of, I think, in this line, I don't know specifically, but I'm trying to think of like a Bollywood song, and there's this one really popular song called Papa Ketete,

which is like my dad used to say that I'd be, it was just about his dad. So I'm thinking of songs that are about like moms and dads, but this one literally sprinkles the love everywhere, as you guys mentioned before. So there's, it's hard to pin it down to a song. But the themes are universal, you know. Yeah, the theme is gratitude.

It's like, you know, and I'm going to be honest, I like that. I think it's healthy to practice gratitude. And, you know, lots of religions or traditions tell you to do that. You know, that's not just a Christian thing. Now, the Christians will get real militant about it. You've got to thank God every day for the breath in your body and worship at his feet and prays his holy name. And I'm like, dude, he sounds obsessed with me.

That's weird. Yeah. I think I like the fact that in the South growing up, it was church was such a big deal for all the people that I knew. They would go to church and they would all know each other from there. And from an outside perspective, I was like, thank God these guys have church. It seems healthy. Things would get real violent real quickly if they didn't have that.

We've talked about this before on the Well Red podcast. One thing I didn't really realize or appreciate is don't get me wrong, there's a million churches in my tiny little hometown, Salina, Tennessee. But like growing up most of my thinking about, I used to talk about how Jesus was a big deal and whatever, but when I really stop and think about it, almost none of my friends actually. actually went to or fucked with church.

And I think it was like a, and their parents didn't either. And I think it's because like, you know, our town was. That explains a lot. Our town was abandoned by God and left to rot. So, you know, fuck him. That's not what any of them would actually say. But I'm just saying our town was ravaged by economic despair and pills and shit. And I know that's when a lot of people turn to the Lord, I guess.

But like, also almost every single one of my friends, except for literally one, no, two. My entire friend group all throughout high school and everything, two of them had parents who were together. All the rest of us were products of broken homes and whatever. And with, and I feel like I'm making the case for the Lord here, which is not what I want to do.

Because people hear all this, like, yeah, that's why you need Jesus. You kiss my ass. I don't help. But I'm just saying, like, it's, I don't know, it's weird and different in a lot of ways. As soon as they let prayer leave schools, that's when this country went down the way. God damn, football team started sucking Drew.

Everything went to shit. I know. Football team used to be good. And then we couldn't win a game to save our lives. So, you know, it was just top to bottom, not hits and Salina for years. God doesn't play favorites, but he does know who his soldiers are, Trey. Yeah. But, yeah, I don't know.

He still believes in you, Trey. Sure. He does. Yeah, I hit. They should. Never giving him a reason not to, really. Exactly. He loves your stuff.

Yeah. And he takes credit for it. He's like, what I'm made? This is like, so given what you just said, Douchar, what was their attitude towards you and what you were doing? Were you, like, were you to be saved and proselytized to? Or were they like, oh, well, he does a, he does an Indian. thing, you know.

How old were you when you go out there? Third grade. Did they, yeah, did they try to get you to go to lock-ins? There's probably two or three moments that stand out in my time. One, as an adult, but a few were when I would be over at like a friend's place and they'd have me over for supper and we'd be eating steak and I'd be eating steak for the first time and it would just become a this topic of like, you ain't never had steak?

So you go, you know, you go to the temple. they get really inquisitive almost, but it's, you know, the whole family's there, like brothers and sisters, like it's a whole audience. And I would have to kind of defend my Hinduism, which I didn't understand because it's all in a different language. It's thousands of things. There's, yeah, in third grade, we do these weird boojahs, which I literally still don't really understand, but they're just ritualistic things. Did they tell you there, you were going to go to hell? I think I got told a few times that I'd be I'd go to I'd go to hell and it was it was it was very matter of fact and almost like right it was like he's going to go to hell I'm like yeah it is what it is

that so it had no effect on no I didn't really because I knew it was all because I mean I'm coming from Hinduism where we go to a temple once a month and we'd walk around a thing and a priest would put a bowl and touch my head and it symbolizes power And then we'd bring fruits and the priest would do a little specialized prayer for us and then give us all fruit. Like, none of it made sense to me. And then the church thing, I actually kind of, I listen to, you know, you get exposed to church stuff when you're down there just by being around. Like the Lord and the he'll be there for us and all this stuff you over here. And I was like, that sounds fucking just as dumb as the other stuff.

Like none of the story doesn't make, the Jesus story doesn't make sense to me. It's just as ridiculous as any other story in our catalog. But my dad's point of view was always like, Jesus is one of the Hindu gods, and it's all the same. And there's no, you know, like, it's very like open, open-ended kind of religion. So I was kind of born and kind of a, you don't really believe in this stuff, actually. Yeah. Did you ever have any experiences with, like Joe Zimmerman has a great bit about a girl he was interested in. and he thought she was interested in him,

but she was just trying to save him. But I know that's the whole thing. Like the ritual of dating becomes wrapped up in the religion. Did you have anything like that as an outsider? I didn't. I mean, I was fat. It's like that.

I always forget. I don't know. I know you as a ladies man. I don't know if they're turned off by the Indianness or the fatness. It's very confusing. The fatness wasn't doing any favors. I can speak personally to that. Well, unlike Indian, it wasn't going to make their dad mad.

Right. I had one. Oh, go ahead, Trey. Well, I just think of, like, one of my favorite Simpsons jokes, and I know, like, I ain't taking a stance on Apu here. This was more about Christianity, but it's one of my favorite Simpsons lines, which I imagine reflects some of that.

attitudes that were that were pointed towards you about religion is there was the same word Reverend Lovejoy is like there's a whole community around and he's like and we can all come together as one whether you're Catholic and it shows you know whatever some character he's like or Protestant and shows another character and he goes or and it shows Apu and he goes miscellaneous and and Apu goes I'm Hindu there's one point whatever billion of us and Lovejoy goes well isn't that special. Like pretty, you know, I feel like that kind of sums it up a lot of,

it's like, well, that's nice. That's nice and all, but, you know, we've got the real Lord. We all know it, but good for you. There was a Simpsons episode. I don't know if it was, I don't know which religion they did it with. I think it was Hinduism, but Homer was like, ma'am, like a poo, when they were handing out religions,

did your family just go to, did your people just go to the bathroom or something. Did you miss the hand me out of the release? Damn, Houns is so good. One time in, so I was one quick story about being in the South, and this was in my late 20s. So like about 12-ish years ago, I was living in Huntsville. My dad had just passed, and I got a job at a local publicly traded company. I don't say which one, but they're out there, and they do like computer, you know, system router stuff. And while I'm there, everyone was the whole, you know, everyone who worked with me was just either mostly white and a few black people, like just the breakdown of it. And there was a few Indians here and there, but they're all

in engineering. And I was in marketing, like in the business side. So I was all the sea level people, they're all kind of like, they're all white. And there's this one guy who is in the first day. They're like, are you in the right place, man? Yeah. Yeah. The year was going to mystify. Bye. And one time this guy asked me to come to lunch. He was like, it's a, he's like, it's a church group that we meet for lunch in some conference room. And we're all part of the same church.

And we work in the same company. So we have lunch. So I show up. And we all have our salads. And then, you know, whatever. And then the guy who invited me just started the Bible reading. He had printed out bio reading. And now he tricked me.

He kind of told me what it is and I'm, you know, I'm me. I'm gum with it. Let's do it. Like, he's a nice guy. So I was like, he's not going to whatever. And he, and we had to read these passages one by one by line, like, while we're doing lunch. And when it got to me, it was just too awkward for me because there was one line. I did one of them.

I did one of the lines. And it was about anger. The whole thing was about anger. Like the passage in the Bible was like, I don't remember. which one and it got to me and I don't know if you've planned it that way but it was just like I don't want to say this out loud so I just didn't say anything and there was like 20 seconds of the most intense I mean the worst feeling you can have in a room you didn't say no thank you I didn't say nothing I didn't say nothing I was just like and I kind of looked at it and I kind of

looked at them and I looked back it was like a pure stare off it was an Indian outlaw stare off And I didn't budge. And they're like, okay, we can just move on. You can go to the next passage. And I was like, all right. But they don't mean, they're good people. They just don't mean. They just don't know that.

No, they think you're going to hell. They like literally are trying to do something that is very desperate in their minds. Yeah, but I can't undo that. I'm not. Yeah. There's nothing I can do there. The fire's already caught. No, you can.

You just accept Jesus into your heart. Too sure. Trey, I've asked you, I created this whole podcast to proselytize to both of you. Yeah, you know, honestly, that's another thing that I've mostly avoided somehow. I know that they'd be doing that, but I guess I'm just not worth their time or trouble. Just. Trey had a shirt that said genius, but it was spelled wrong. That was a joke.

But they didn't know it was spelled wrong because they were too dumb. So they just thought he was walking around with a shirt that said genius. on it. So that's why they weren't approaching you. That's a true story. That actually happened. Some of them got the joke and understood it, but some of them that were like, you know, they're like, of course you would wear that shirt

because they didn't realize that it was well-drawn. It's like, you think you're so hot shit, you think you're smarter and everybody else or whatever. It's like, it's fucking spelled wrong. I've been on the other side of that where I have proselytized. Only person I really did it to, though, was my grandfather. because as I understood the concept of hell

and that became very real to me at like nine or ten, the first thing I pinpointed, like almost like the next day was like, hey, mom and dad, what about him? And it was like, yeah, he's never made a profession of faith, as we call it. And so like I was on him, son. And that was like, you know, was he a bad person or he just didn't accept the Lord?

He just didn't go to church and he never really said that he like was a Christian or like believed in Jesus or any of that. He'd been to a bunch of wars. Way to annoy a war vet. Yeah. Well, I wrote him a letter one time and he cried. All I said was I just, you know, I hope you're in heaven with me. I was like nine.

But he eventually did, not because of me, but because of a cousin or mine. Like my grandfather actually like started going to church at the end of his life, making his peace, which what a way to do it, son. For sure. Just horror banging, whiskey drinking, Nazi killing. and then at the very end, my bad boys, see you on the other side. Both my whore banging and whiskey drinking pap balls respectively, two of them. Neither one of them got right with the Lord before their hearts exploded, but, you know, I don't give a shit because none that's real.

But like, yeah, if you're going to, you know, it's a solid way to play it. I ain't going to front, you know, my maimaw never went to church, and now she does, you know, and I mean, I get it. That's fine with me. Got punished her with a gay kid. you know. I had, yeah, I know. I guess they just sort of avoid that subject.

But I had, I definitely, I had girlfriends and stuff over the years who would like try to drag me to church with them. And I don't think that ever happened more than once. I would like eventually relent and go. But then I would be there and just like openly scoffing at shit the preacher was saying, like loudly in a way that everybody could hear, you know what I mean? Just like, like shit like that in the middle of the sermon. and they would be mortified

and then we'd have a big blow-up argument and then that would be the end of that and typically shortly thereafter also the relationship but they're having sincere efforts at saving my soul which again I guess says a lot about me and the quality of my soul which is fine.

I'm just one of the trash queers you know, you can't do nothing with them so why even try? Well that's the thing about it. You don't want people to bother you, but you want to be wanted. You know what I mean? It's like if a guys are catcalling a bunch of girls and being disgusting and then they just don't cat call

one. Like that can't feel good. You just reminded me, though. I did like, when I started seeing girls, I would involve them, but that was just, this is so goddamn funny. That was just because, like, I remember having sex to my girlfriend after church because mom and dad had stuff to do. It was the only time I could be alone in the house or there was dad had to like glad hand and, you know, kiss the babies and then mom had to clean up the church. And, you know, I had about, and we lived right next door of the church. I had about a set out of 30 minutes, son. I can get two off, you know what I mean?

Why, the good Lord in campus. That's right. Yeah. I had, my, my biggest proselytizing came from an Indian girl who was, like, Catholic from, you know, like, the whole group of people who are Catholic from colonization, pretty much. Yeah, Catholics got around for sure. Catholics got around and she would like, if I said like, God damn it, she'd be like, don't say that. The Lord and they don't say that.

I was like, God damn it. It's so frustrating. Yeah. Did she, did she tempt you into getting saved? She did not, but she did take me to church a few times, Catholic Church, and I couldn't get up for communion, which I thought was very rude. I didn't get that body. I didn't get that body in my body. And I thought that it was so, it's just so stupid.

Knowing what the church does as an institution, like, you know, they're like landowner, rapist people. Sure are. With great architecture. Great architecture. Good paintings, too. You know, I love God's old shit. Yeah.

When it comes to art, his old shit's great. At some point I felt like he sold out because all his new modern day shit. ain't it. Like, none of it works at all. God's NFTs don't hit. No, no,

any of God's recent art sucks, which is a shame because his old shit was like the best in the game. Yeah, now, yeah,

now listen, we don't agree with him murdering everybody on earth, but the art was good back then, you know what I mean? It was.

You got to separate the art from the artist, and his art was good. I used to have a joke back then, back of the day, I just remembered about some,

the line was something like they wanted, it was basically about how set, and having sex after church is what opened my eyes to how ridiculous it all was. Because I just found something way better. There was some line about God had my heart in his hands, but she had something different in her mouth or something like that. I've always said this.

I think God needs to be treated or religion needs to be treated like a walking stick or a wheelchair. Like when you need it for a little bit, go in there, re-center, use it what it needs to be but then eventually you don't want to be in a fucking wheelchair your whole life. A common sermon from when I was little was God is not a rabbit's foot. I got some kind of company.

Who's talking about it? All right, let's write this and go. Yeah, we're going to rate it. Let me first of all, it's Thanksgiving. I do like gratitude. Hey, I'm grateful for Sawyer Brown even if they did turn into a bunch of Christians. And I'm going to give this song

to Bubba's. I'll give it 2.2.2. Two, five bububas. How about that out of three? It's a fun little bitty, you know. What are you grateful for this week, Trey? I'm making you say something. Oh, Lord, not just, you know, being home with Katie and the boys for a weekend while also getting my fat on heavy because I'm going to do that because it's okay to do that.

So I'm going to be slaving in that kitchen boy. I'm a Trey baking his ass off, son. Yeah. I'm thankful for, and I kind of have to say this because that's my sponsor. sponsor, white people. And I got this to our large. What was your rating? I missed it. Two.

Too much God stuff. A little too much God stuff. It was also no story. That was my biggest thing. Oh, yeah. We said Bubles, but it is Earnhardt, isn't it? Yeah. Out of three, Earnhardt. Thank you, too, Schar, for keeping us straight. All right. Anyway, 2.25 Earnhardt. Okay. All right. podcast and that's right a show about country at it's high don't expect no shit from 2005 overshot the podcast and that's right