wellRED podcast - Cho Misses Out On a Stirring N-Word Discussion!

Episode Date: February 25, 2026

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I consider it customary. I may be the only one it does, but you know, start off by shit talking the absent member. Corey's like... I've said this, hold on. I've said this every time you've done this, and then I stopped saying it. Y'all never do this about me, and it hurts my feelings.

I don't think that's true. It's always shit talking, because it's always the same version of, like, he's off naked in the wood butt fucking somewhere or something. It's not like, because often we don't know what you're doing. You often just don't address it, and then if you do,

it's way later in the episode. And I'm tired of pretending like it doesn't bother me. And I mean, I know the reason why it's like you guys have your own little podcast that you do together or whatever. about how you love rich people or whatever the fuck it is. But like, so he's just like, but there's no acknowledgement up top. Trust me.

I listen. All right. Okay. Now, do I give up after a minute and a half? Yeah, sure. Well, it definitely eventually happens. But you know why Corey's not here today, right? Well, I know he's somewhere like out of town.

Right. Well, I don't know the specifics. And that's what makes it funny to me. He's, um, he's at the University of Arkansas teaching a class. And so give me a talk. I didn't know that. I didn't know that. I know, but I think it's, but he's there for like days.

So is it like a seminar? Is that, do universities do that? I don't remember that being a thing. Well, they do like conferences and then they would have like packed in type situations. That would be, I could see that. But what's funny about the ravenness of it where Corey is concerned is like he's mentioned that he's going to do some professorial stuff. But he's not like just fully. explained it. And in my head, I always think, you know, he's wanting us to ask him to further explain it, you know.

That's funny, because I definitely would have. I thought it was like you are, it's wrestling, it's K-FAB. You're not not doing that, but you're just going to like have to stand up, half talk about what it means to be a political comedian in this climate for a politics class or a communications class. Right. And asking about it would make it seem less, you know what I mean? Like the mystery and the academic aspect to it sounds a little better in my head. Right. Then what the truth would. I thought he didn't want to.

I thought it was like, like a throwaway, don't ask me about it. What's funny is because I feel like stuff's going on. It's one of those two, I feel like, and they're both like equally raven in my opinion. But I projected what my motivation would be if I didn't explain it. You are actually analyzing the show, and I think you're right now. You have convinced me. Well, I just, damn it. Well, now that you say that, those are definitely two things that he does, you know, each and separately.

So it's, and two things that a lot of people do, you know, to be fair to him. But he's, you know, prone to that sort of thing at times. But yeah, yeah, but that's what he's. They flew him in yesterday and he's there for like days because he's not doing POA this week either. Like I think he might be there all week. And so that's what I'm saying. That's the part that's like weird about it to me. But it's like the way my psychology works, I could have asked him all this, but I just, you know, of course, patently refused.

The moment that I think that that's what's happening, I'm like, well, I'm not doing that. You know, but now that I think about it, I wouldn't have. if I think I'd have been the same thing. But it's like he did that thing, you know, like the other day in there, in the group chat, he posted a picture of himself holding a picture of himself. Yes. Now that I did what you just did. I was like, I'm not asking what this is.

Right. But Mark did, and Mark did it in a way that it hit for me or whatever because, you know, it was very marquee the way. He's like, what the fuck even is this? What are you, like, he inherently made fun of the whole thing? What he said is, this is, this is your. your Dorian Gray. But instead of the painting aging while you stay young,

the painting gets more and more handicap mentally. Yeah, right. Yeah. But anyway, and what's funny about that is I did know that that had happened, but I wasn't putting it together because his dad came to Atlanta to take pictures of me because he does mine in our website. He took website pictures of me that same day. I think I lost Drew.

I'm going to, I want to vamp because I did as much as I'm, you know, ragging on Corey, I want him to, it's funny because he won't listen to this. This is for the audience. Y'all listen right now as Drew is gone. There he is.

You back. I was going to say, I don't want to Corey to have to edit anything, but also I don't know that he'll even listen this far. But it's funny to be like shitting on him and then also like try to be considerate and make it to where he doesn't have to edit anything. But his dad came to Atlanta to take pictures of me for the website. and I got there and I just mentioned Corey and his dad,

you know, who of course is like, you know, a Trumpian boomer and everything, but a lovely guy. But he was like, he goes, I just brought Corey up and his dad goes,

yeah, he did some damn thing for all the screaming liberals in Walker County earlier today. I think there's about seven of them. I don't know. But anyway, like they had him come down there do something. I don't know.

you know, just such like, just such like, you know, derision or disdain or whatever. And then, but that was the, I didn't put together that those were the same, uh, events. But yeah, Corey's, Corey, a college can ask Corey to do anything and he'll do it. So if anybody's out there, listen, if you're associated with a college and there's something you would want him to do, if you frame it in the context of it coming from the college, he will say yes every time. Yeah, he's got a real, uh, people get to be. believe in me thing going on. Right.

Well, he's always been weird about college, you know, like from the get-go and wanting to be. He's admittedly, openly, very insecure about, you know, people thinking he don't know stuff specifically because he didn't go to college or whatever. And I don't have any of that. But if there's any colleges that want me to do something, I'll do it too, but for money. I was about to say, far be it for me because I don't ever say no to pretty much anything either, but not for those reasons, just because I just because I just. don't i just kind of like yeah well i guess but yeah i mean yeah i don't mean a lot of money

there's uh i'm hoping to do something with the law school soon and then if i can i'm going to try to spend that into more things but um yeah i've got something from my own law school over the uh pandemic but i was like out of my mind and then some of my friends were on there like my my good left is about halfway through i literally told everyone there that i kind of hope they died i think they should be murdered legally And they were laughing. They were laughing. But I was like, legally, legally, we should change the law.

And when we make the law the way we should make it, most of you probably would be guilty of something that requires death. Yeah, it's like that. I don't know if you've seen it in this comparison might not have for you, but that made me think of there was a thing that went viral where Jerry Seinfeld was given some award by like this, the conference of American ad ad executives or something. Like it was advertising. And he just went up there and just spent. the whole thing, just absolutely roasting their existence, professional, personal, and otherwise, and just saying, like, your scum and shouldn't exist, basically, on the night that they honored him, which is very, you know, druidistic.

Yeah, that's Larry David. Yes, very much, so. Larry the David guy. Larry the David guy. But, no, Corey, and I've told the story here before, but, like, early on in our relationship, and I know you were there because he, like, Corey said something about, and he, keep in mind, Corey's like 24 when this happens 24 or 25 but he says something like you know I've always thought like you know one of these days eventually you know I'll I'll I'll go to UGA or whatever

and I like Scott I was like I thought he was fucking around and I was like oh you're serious I was I was like I was like well damn now I feel like fucking sank a coffee when he laughed at you'll Brenner for thinking he could live in Buckingham Palace one day and uh in cool runnings that I said, but that, so, um, Corey's like, no, you actually probably could have made me feel better about it. So you compared it to that. Yeah, I know, I made it like worse, but I thought of that, you know, that hit for me.

So I brought it up. But, uh, you know, I like to bust his balls about it. But I also, in all sincerity, I've tried to impress upon him for years. And it's like, dude, it doesn't fucking matter at all. Like, you know, you're a comedian. Like, I shouldn't have gone to Kyle. I don't regret going to college, but it doesn't, it didn't do anything. at the end of the day, really.

I mean, so, you know, like, you were always going to be a committee. You started comedy when you were 16. It makes sense that you didn't go to college. It would have been a waste of money. There's a whole growing idea now that, you know, college is a fucking scam or whatever. So, you know. Yeah, I don't know, man. I don't agree with that either, really.

But it depends on the college, I think. But it's also like he could get into UGA right now, you know, on the application, a link to the book. You know what I mean? like, do you have a video that expresses who you are? That's like a thing that's on college. Yeah, here is me on fucking Comedy Central. And then they let him in.

But I think it has more to do with, and this is like true of a lot of people with a lot of different things. It's like the feeling that you have and whether it's based on how you feel about yourself or how you think other people feel about you. You know what I mean? It's like I don't think Corey wants to go to college. I think he wants people to not judge him for not. I'm not saying anyone is, but he's thinking that they're. are. Right.

You know what I mean? I know exactly what you mean. I think that's probably... Like I've been thinking about trying for a late night for the last year. But like it's really hard to get on late night television. And to do it, I'd have to like change a lot of the jokes that are even close to me. But I'm also like, yeah, but it would, wouldn't it like make it seem worse? And I'm like, to who?

So... I guess my law school friend, I don't know. You know what I'm saying? I'll talk about it. It's like I'm imagining the same kind of thing. Right. I know I'm a great comedian. Well, I'll talk about it publicly.

It might be dumb of me. I don't know. But it's like, but it also, it is. Whatever you're going to say, don't. Unless you said no.

No. I just, yeah. So you say you would think, I mean, like I did relatively recently, like last year, but,

and I got like asked for like a submission or whatever. And when I got asked through my managers. So I'll just not say which show, but you can figure it out very easily. But I think you were going to say you were about to do one. No, no, no, no. But I got like a request through my management for a submission. And when it came in, I was like, I was like, I don't think I want to do that. And they were like, why? And I was like, because they, I was like, because I, the booker, he, he knows who I ain't. He's seen me. He seen me live

multiple times. I've submitted things before. It, like, I've been through all this. It'll be the same shit. I was like, I don't understand the point. And of course, they were just like, well, it's just, you know, whatever. It's just a thing you do or whatnot. So like I did, and then it was the same thing all over again. Because like you said, it was like, I didn't fucking say a bunch of cuss words and stuff, but I had, you know, been in there about

my papal being racist and I referenced the N word in it. Like I say the words, the N word, which I want to get to that later, but the N word just in general discussion. But I say, you know, I reference the N word and I say the N word in it and stuff like, and even

that type of shit for somebody's late night shows is just like they just ain't going to do that and I know that but I'm not going to not do that so it was like so why are we just wasting each other's fucking time but I still did though just because they asked and then so and then of course after that happened again I was like that's the

last time I was like I'm not doing it again but I probably will at some point yes I have auditioned live in front of one specific booker a couple times where they or he doesn't select the comics the club or the festival does.

I'll just leave it at that. And this year, I have a weekend booked. And I've been on the fence about it. It's the same kind of thing where I'm like, less, because they didn't even ask for me. The club is like, they're here looking for new talent.

You are at the top of our list. Do you want to do this? and I'm like why? So I have this joke and I'm probably just going to put it out soon about the Amish Ginger Frying

my hometown. That is a perfect example of like I think they would do it for an established comedian. I think they would do it if every other joke I had fit what they're looking for and it was the edgiest one.

Right. But it, it's in fact my and there's a there is a victim of this joke you know what I mean like if I was saying anything other than Amish it would be a no go for sure but then there's this part where I talk about

and this is the crux of the jokes I guess I am going to give it away I'm basically saying the Amish are what rednecks accused Mexicans of for the last 30 years and then I go down a list of things racist things people say about Mexicans and say that's who the Amish is I don't know if they do it.

I think there's so many, you know, it's like I am saying racist stuff, but I'm doing it about the Amish. It's like an ironic thing, sure. But also, I'm doing it in the voice of a redneck. That, it's not even political. And this is another problem you're going to have, too. It's like they're not trying to do that. That to them is a corpone, even if you're converting redneck comedy. I know.

And yeah, I don't. But then. and no shade, but then I see Dusty Slay on there. Right. And I'm like, all right. It's not just that.

You know what I mean? It ain't just the accent and the goofiness. Well, what I tell myself is you said it, you said the word of me again. Like I, I think we both try to be like, you know, at least a little subversive or whatever.

And I just, they don't, that ain't, late night ain't about that generally. Kimmel likes it. I've often thought Kimmel would book you. And I think, and I've often thought Colbert would book you if you tried hard because, uh, just because he would like it. But it would like, you know, you'd have to get over that. Like, you have the clout. Like, I think Colbert would book me if he knew who the fuck I was. You know what I mean? He wouldn't care about any of that. Anyway, this is my thoughts. Yeah. So speaking of the N-word. There's a big cultural controversy right now. Were we speaking of the, oh, you were talking about it. I said in the bit that I submitted, I said the N-word. I said the words, the N-word.

Did I ever tell you that story about when I went on Karen Hunter's show on Sirius X-N, which is like a very popular show on their, you know, Urban Channel, their Black channel on there. And she played a thing I had just did, like a rant video I just did, where somebody, it was about Trump, I think it was when it got that NBC executive reported that Trump used to say the N-word all the time or something like that.

So in the video, in the rant video, I'm talking about Trump saying the N-word and how, you know, his popularity is going to skyrocket when this comes out or whatever, like, you know, being a smart ass about it. And then she cut the video off at a certain point. And then she goes, and then she's like, anyway, and then he says it and the video ends.

And then she, like, introduce me. me and I was like you said to end word that's how it she didn't mean it to sound like that but that's exactly how it sounded so I was like very awkwardly the way that I am I was like I was like hey thanks for it so I feel like I have to say just so everyone knows

she just said and then I said I didn't say the I didn't say the in word and then her and her production everybody started cracking up because they realized what had happened but anyway um at Larry the David guy yes but at the Bafters

uh which is the British Oscars this week. They had one of the nominees for a bunch of categories. And I feel like at the end of the day, the producers and director and everything of this movie have probably got to be loving this, I would think, that they, that, like, you know, an indie darling, Oscar-baity type of movie,

as I take it, about Tourette's syndrome. Kind of the first of its kind. It's called, I swear. And it's about a real dude named John Davidson, who has Tourette's. And there's a bunch of different kinds of Tourette's, but this dude has the kind that you think of if you watched like crass comedies in the 90s,

which is to say he yells out wild shit all the time and can't help it. And the movie's about his life, but it's not a documentary, like an actor plays him. But the real guy was invited to be, not just invited, but to be like the guest of honor at the BAFTAs and everything.

And he's there. And people know he's there and all that. but then later Michael B. Jordan and Delroy Lindo from Senors were on stage. I think they were presenting another award, another BAFTA. And while they were up there, that guy screamed out very aggressively as people with Turence and were want to do the N-word, except he actually said, you know, the actual N-word, hard R and everything. And everyone in there heard it very clearly. And there's been a whole lot of debate and discourse about that sense about racism, abelism, and everything in between.

And I just thought I'd, you know, start there. Yeah. Yeah. First of all, he's British. Like, every time they say law, it sounds like they're saying lore. Every time they say saw, it sounds like they're saying sore. It might not have been the hard R. Right.

Yeah. They can't even really do a hard R. Right. Right. Right. So, you know, let's just start. No. Also, genuinely, I had a very deep.

moment ironically rectified by DJ sending me something about this event no clue what a BAFTA is probably did a racism just saw BAFTA award Michael will be Jordan what's the other guys Del Roy Lindo Delroy Lindo is one of the blackest men in Hollywood very much so yeah and I just thought the BAFTAs were an award ceremony that had something to do with like BET and I had just never heard of it because I'm in my black American film. Black American film and television. Black American film and television association. I was like, someone said the N-word at Bafta.

Well, if it was a white guy, they probably beat the fuck out of him. And you know what? That's fair. That should be, you know what I mean? Like, I'm not saying you should say the N-word, but if you do it, you get beat up, then I think that's good. Like, I don't think you need to lose your job or anything. So I just was like, what?

If you are, even if you have Tourette syndrome. I didn't know that part. I'm saying, like, you guys had kind of brought it up and I hadn't been paying attention. And then DJ sent me thinking. I'm like, why does anyone care that someone's at the N-word at the Black American film? And tell? Of course they did. Right.

Like, they said it the whole time. I honestly thought, oh, it got caught live. And now we're pretending we care. Do you know what I mean? Yes. Like, I honestly kind of thought Michael B. Jordan accidentally said it in a cool. away on live television. Right.

And then DJ sent something where the headline was in, like what he sent. I didn't have to click it. You know what I mean? I was like, well, when I first saw it, it was presented without context. Someone screams the N-word at Michael B.

Jordan and Delroy Lindo at the BAFTA. And I do know what the Baptists are, though. But that's how I first saw. It was like on the top post on Reddit and that's all it said. Someone screams the N-word out of me. You're like, holy shit. But then in the comments, people are like, okay, well,

here's what. happened and then so like early on it was definitely being purposefully I think willfully presented without context by a lot of people I just thought it was very funny and kind of not like me to just just like assume all the context and then kind of move on my life but then y'all just kept so I was like all right I got to look into whatever this is and then I found out okay we're about to wait into some waters where I'm none of the things I know I I meant to say that when I started this it's like you know there's two white guys we got to get into all this obviously two white guys without.

Well, if you're just asking me my take on it, if you do that a lot, my first take was if you know that about yourself, why the fuck are you going out to a live award ceremony? Then I found out because you have a movie there. Right. And I'm like, if it's ablest of me to say you shouldn't go enjoy those things,

then I'll take it on the chin. I guess I'm ablest. I think if you scream stuff like that out, you should know that about yourself. But if you have a movie there, then you have a right to be there. And so apparently what happened, that guy's since put out a statement.

That's nothing to that I just kept, seeing a lot was like, look, this dude could at least apologize. He can't help it, but he could say, like, look, I realize that's fucked up and I'm sorry. But like, I just found out this morning and I don't know when, but he put out, he, I mean, he did. He has. He put out a statement saying, I feel horrific. I always feel horrific. Please. You know, there's no intention. It's my disability, whatever. But also, he said, he addressed kind of what you were saying. He was saying, I don't, you know, I don't ever get to do these kinds of things ever because I don't put myself in these positions. But the Lafta's like, again, invited him as like a guest of honor that night and also

ostensibly made like, you know, concessions and stuff for it and like, and like told that people were made aware. But he basically made it sound like he was reassured by them. Like, no, no, no, no. Everyone will understand. It'll be fine. And, you know, and then. And so he kind of, I guess, almost reluctantly went.

And then this happened. It was exactly. I'm sure what he was terrified of anyway. And, but because people said that. Allen come the announcements were made people were told that's not the only outburst he the lady that presented the award for best children's film he yelled out you know fuck yeah or something like that and he think yelled like cunt or so he yelled other things at other people but he's British cunt's different it might not have been cut but he definitely he said other

he screamed other insulting things at other people who were on stage that night it not that wasn't the only incident but this is another part of it and I don't this I don't know how you defend it. As far as the BBC goes. Yeah, this part's indefensible. Those other incidents were all cut out and were not aired on TV and also not one of his incidents, but someone else on stage said free, free Palestine. And that was cut out too, which is so raven.

But they edited. Somebody left it in on purpose. They edited these other things out and didn't. Or they are a troll? Right. Yeah. Like someone, like someone left it in knowing it was, I don't just mean on purpose. I mean like someone was like, uh-huh, fucking.

And it was either like, I'm tired of woke shit. They actually are a racist. Or they're just like some weird troll. Yeah. Because to cut all those, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, no, it's crazy. I know that part is fucked. So like the BBC deserves all kinds of shit right now.

But like, you know, I'm surprised they haven't pinned it on somebody. I don't think the dude does. But obviously, I don't think that, you know, I don't know. There's just been a lot of... Well, I don't know if this... I didn't have this person's permission. I know we were going to do this. So I'm not going to say the name.

A black comedian who I like, who I'm friends with who is very funny. There's a comedian with Tourette's in Knoxville. And I've seen her once or twice at Open Mikes when I was really like... I was going out to open mics when I first got back here. And I asked one of the guys who produces a lot of the don't-tails. I was like, hey, you're always asking me who funny women are in Nashville, who funny women are in Asheville because you want to put a woman or two on every show. but you feel like you've only got three or four here.

You know what I mean? Like trying to be a good dude but not book the same three women all the time, right? Why are you not booking this woman? She has incredibly funny jokes about her syndrome. And yeah, she does the same ones every time I see her and all that, but she's killing at an open mic. And he's like, oh, she says N-word all the time, dude. Can't trust her.

Can't put her up on this or that. And that guy you're talking to is a black guy, you said? That's a black guy. No, I'm about to get to that part. Okay. But I'm like, are you serious? I'm like, she has that one. Right.

And he's like, yeah, dude, and it's happened before. And he books for don't tell. And he's like, I just, I can't, you know, imagine don't tell comment. You know what I'm saying? And I'm like, yeah, I guess I get it. But damn, it almost kind of seems fucked up. Like, this is right into this version of it. When this thing happened, a black comedian at an Oxville, who I'm buddies with, posted this.

There's the local comedian with Tourette syndrome who went into a fit at a show, just spewing inwards left and right from the back of the crowd. She tried to stop, but that agitated her condition more, and it got very aggressive. The words were leaving her mouth hard. She did her best to get up and leave without disrupting the rest of the show. Afterwards, she messaged me and apologized. She apologized for not being able to control herself and for disrupting the room. And you know what happened next?

I accepted that, and I moved on. people have their shit and sometimes they can't control it sometimes they apologize sometimes they don't i just wanted to share and that was it right that was the whole commentary obviously she doesn't speak for all black people obviously she doesn't speak for all black comedians but i read that and was like yeah i think simple as that's right but then i understand there's a conversation and i guess this is the point of this movie of like so you have to feel bad for something you can't help and it's like well first of all welcome to earth baby doll Right. I feel awful about stuff. I can't help all.

I mean, I think, I mean, they do feel bad. They feel bad all the time. Right. It's not like they don't feel bad about it. That is the affliction. That kind of is the disease, right? Yeah, right. If you just spouted off things that never made you look embarrassed or dumb or, or racist or whatever, it would still obviously be a disease that can be disruptive. But it actually would, do you understand what I'm saying? Mm-hmm. Like at the heart of this, we can try to raise awareness. We can try to make the world aware that some people can't help this and then maybe they'll feel a little bit better.

But to be honest, the disease is that you say fucked up stuff. If you just were like, rainbows, puppies, dogs, everyone would be like, I don't know. I kind of like that guy. He's fun at parties. To be fair, a lot of trolls also think people with Tourette's are fun at parties. I mean, if you cut out the N-word part, if he was just saying, fuck you to children's award winners, I would have thought that was hilarious. Yeah, I know. Well, that's what I said.

in, you know, like Rob Schneider movies 30 years ago or Tourette's syndrome was hilarious because that's just all it was. But again, they do, again, there's some version of it where they don't, they yell things, but it's not, it isn't offensive, but it's still like super disrupted, like just like scream in like at a funeral, just screaming like, oh, I'm yams or whatever the fuck, you know, like that type of thing. And that also is not going to hit for people.

I think you can play a person with Tourette's because you feel like they feel more than most people. Not as much as they do, but more than most people. It's like, I can imagine your acting coach, Trey, is there anything you can tap into where you just felt horrific in public for something that you feel like you couldn't help and you just wish you could explain to people,

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Indeed we do. And we're back. Never left. Some might say, yeah, I've seen a lot of people to say that have actually seen that movie saying, like, it is insane how ironic this is like considering this is exactly what the movie's about,

essentially. Like not the specific circumstance, but everything that's unfolded since or whatever. He yelled at the real Michael Jordan. Yeah, right. Like the real Michael Jordan. It's hilarious. You don't count Michael B?

I mean, he is B. Yeah, I mean, he's got to know that. He had to put the B in his name for a reason. Yeah, I know. Yeah, he's not, uh, Michael Jordan. He's not the. He's not, right. There's like probably five names on it.

Madonna, Hitler, LeBron, Michael, Michael Jackson. I was about to say the only reason, and what's wild is they're about, you know, the existence of Michael Jackson. I'm not the standard of Michael B. Jordan. He is a legitimate movie star. Yeah, right. But he is what? The 10th most famous movie star in the world right now?

The 15th? Now, I'm sure he's very aware that he don't compare to Michael Jordan, Michael J. Jordan, right? It's Jeffrey, Jordan. But it just, that was just funny. The way you said it made it same. like, you know, I don't know, he's the fake Michael Jordan or whatever, as opposed to just he's B. He's Michael B.

He is definitely. Michael B. He is definitely Michael B. Jordan. That is true. And again, I want to make it very clear, only compared to Michael Jordan. Right. Compared to me, compared to his, like, most black stars. Who's more, who's more famous than him?

Will Smith, Denzel. Is that it? Kevin Hart, he's more of a. Comedy guy. They're going to be a movie star. No. It's been like two movies. I'm talking about movie stars.

I'm not just talking about black people, Tray. Yeah. Well, speaking of black comedian movie stars, Jamie Fox, you know, I don't know if you saw. He said that basically that he just wasn't buying it. The guy said that I could tell that guy meant that. He meant that they wasn't, you know, this is all. Well, he's basically trying to say like, I could tell that he didn't mean to say it, but that this is how he's It lives in his heart.

Yeah, right, exactly. But I don't, I don't think that's how it works. I think it has to be your fear. Right. It's, you say, like your fear of doing that. The worst possible thing you could say, and then you say it. Even with like, you know, it doesn't mean that you both believe it or feel that way at all. It's just like, what is the worst possible thing?

And you don't, they don't even process it that way. It's just like, that's just how it like works, I think, you know. Yeah. It's like in truth. But then I saw. You have an intrusive thoughts, right? I'd be having intrusive thoughts out to ask. It's like, there's escape, you know?

Like, they can't contain theirs or whatever. Yeah. But I also, I mean, it's interesting, man, because I've seen some people make some points of like, you know, hey, like, that doesn't mean we, like. That it's just cool to do. You want us to just, like, not care. Like, you want us to apologize for being upset by it?

We didn't know any of the context when it happened. Right. Now, you said the dude did make an apology. right? But then I've also seen like I saw this person I think I sent it no Mark sent it to us

just a minute ago and I sent it to someone else someone was like I'm just going to read it because this is too much yeah if I had Tourette's my tics would be shouting

trans rights vote and Black Lives Matter because I'm a good fucking person it might be satire right yeah right but when I saw that I was like

All right. I'm trying to understand every side of this, but this kind of just makes me want to be on the dude's side. Like in front of this person, fuck this person. Yeah, right. No, for sure. That's like. And then on Jamie Fox,

I saw a comic that I thought was pretty great. It was a comic strip, so me delivering it won't hold the weight. But it was, it showed Tarantino. So I almost sent y'all that to the group chat. But anyway, go ahead. He's like,

he's like, what's up my? and it's bleeped out, but it makes it look like he said N-word, hard R. And Jamie Fox is like, what's up my M-word? Please put me in Django, too. And then the next panel is like, it's just like, you know, person with a handicap. I didn't mean to say that I'm really sorry, but I said it in Jamie Fox being like, get the fuck out of here. Right.

I thought that was pretty, I don't think that Quinn Tarantino, I think Quentin Tarantino is a boomer. I don't know what, I think he's Gen X, but I think his mentality is a boomer. I think that he's the kind of racist where he thinks black people are cool. and as long as he thinks they're cool, he can say whatever he wants. I think, yeah, I think that's pretty. So I think it's, like, unfair to be like, Jamie Fox, why would you fuck with a guy like that? But if you're going to fuck with a guy like that,

right. I don't know if you get some slack. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, that, do you say, have you seen the, the original web comic that that is, that main template is based on or whatever?

It's, oh, no, I thought, I thought, okay. Well, that guy, well, the guy you taught, he took, he, he, he, Photoshop pictures of Tarantino and Jamie Fox onto the existing characters. But the top panel, it says, or whatever, it's like, it's a visibly handsome guy and a nice suit saying to a woman at work. I know that. Something like, hey, that's a very pretty dress or whatever.

And she's saying like, you know, I thank you. I appreciate that. And then the second comment, it's a fat, ugly guy saying the same thing. And she's just yelling security or harassment or something like that. so yeah um but that's what's your take on that on that when i was when i was describing the original thing i was like i don't know that i should have brought this up um i mean look it's an undeniable fact of life but it goes like both ways like it's their study after study is proven it's just like people that are attractive like other people just like other people just

just treat them better generally or whatever. Like you just, and again, in both directions, it works in both directions. But like if you're, if you're super good looking, you're going to have in a lot of ways

a generally easier existence or whatever, I think, uh, because people just, and people don't even think about it. They just do. They see like a beautiful person, you just like smile.

You know, he's light up or whatever. You see a fucking bridge troll and you're like, uh, you know, you have to, to fight that every day. But, yeah, I mean, I've talked on here before.

I've talked on here before, like, we will go on tour, and if I'm in shape, I get treated better by strangers than if I'm, like, 20 or 30 pounds heavier. I was trying to find, I don't know where I wrote it down at. I know I've written it down. Maybe I've recorded it, but I've been thinking about this bit. I don't know what I want to say about that part. I think it makes, like, it's like, oh, women, they'll let a good look at, oh, context matters. Like, I'm not saying it's cool that you are a fat, ugly bridge troll to use trace phraseology.

I'm sorry, man. But, like, also, welcome to earth. Like, yeah, dude. Oh, why would she let that? Because she wanted him to. You're not allowed to want a hot guy to flirt with you and then not want an ugly guy to flirt with you? of course, there the context is she should just be like, no, thank you. You know what I mean?

It shouldn't be like, ooh, I'm calling HR versus whatever else. I get that. But the part of the joke I do want to get to, I don't know what to do with that part. Here, we'll make it, is this anything? That's also true for mansplaining. If you are, if you actually know what you're talking about and you're not a condescending prick, women very welcome you telling them stuff. It is in fact why dumb asses mansplained.

They're trying to mimic what they've seen another guy lead to getting a date. It's mansplaining because you don't know what the fuck you're talking about and you're a condescending prick. Because people will be like, oh, and it's mansplaining just because I have an opinion. It's like, no, it's mansplaining because you're fucking full of shit, dog. It doesn't, well, I don't think it has to be wrong. I think another version of it that I've talked much about over there. about how I've been very guilty of it, but not, but not towards women, just towards anybody. I think another time when it counts as mansplaining is when, like, the other part, like,

people know, like, the condescending part is important, but where it's like, you're, you're explaining something that doesn't need to be explained. And it's like, the assumption is that this dumb broad doesn't understand it. And you have to explain it to her, but she's like, no, I know, I know all that. And that's also mansploid. And again, I've done that so many times in my life, but it's not based on gender with me. It's just a problem. Yeah, I remember thinking people were stupid.

I can't believe I can't find this note. I'm looking, anyway, like, because I remember more of the bit now. I remember one of the lines was like, like, my wife likes it when I explain stuff to her. Because it's stuff she doesn't know that I do, and I'm nice about it. That's a good relationship. Sometimes she's like, and I don't remember the example I used, just something. I know actually I think it was maybe it was a little mean I think I said something like sometimes I have to talk her I have to talk her out of falling for a multi-level marketing scheme and then that very same day she has to explain to me why apologizing to someone at work even though you're not sorry will benefit you in the future Drew because I don't know how that works right that's just how relationships works we explain stuff to each other yeah I think that most people maybe not people that are insecure about being double masses, I'm not sure, or if they just kind of suck, maybe not.

But I think most people like to hear people who do know what they're talking about, talk about it, especially if they're, like, passionate about it. Do you know what I found that like I can listen to almost anybody talk about anything, whether I have an interest in it or not. If they do and they're like a legit expert on it, it's just automatically interesting, even if the subject at hand I could give a fuck less about. Yeah. But I don't know how many people agree with that.

I mean, I feel like that's what, like, fucking TED talks and shit are. That's how they got popular and stuff. But I think what it is, I don't think this would be part of the joke is like, if you get accused of mansplaining, it's your fault most of the time. Because you don't know what you're talking about and you're acting like you do. If you get accused of being a creep, it's proof that you're ugly sometimes. And, like, it's not your, you know what I mean? It is your fault if you're being full of shit. You know what I mean?

Yeah. Like, you don't know what you're talking about and you're pretending to. that's on you. But this woman doesn't want you to hit on her because you're ugly. That's not entirely your one. I think that those guys, the in-cell ones, I mean,

the one who go down a bad pass, that they just refuse to see or believe or whatever, even though they just, they're like, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Just fucking, I'm a fat,

ugly bridge troll and fucking women are shallow and all this stuff, so it doesn't matter. That's just not true because, like, there's tons of dudes out there. It's like the Jim Jeffrey bid, except I'm not going to do the rest of it. He's like,

they're fat, studs, you know? Or, wait, no, he does the opposite. He says there's fat, ugly sluts. There's no fat ugly studs. But that's not, and that is funny, but that's not true. There are dudes who, and I'm not just saying because you're rich and have a sweet car or whatever.

If you are, like, confident, and especially if you're fucking, if you're funny, but there's other things that you can do, confidence is the biggest one. If you know stuff and only explain the stuff you know and then you're humble about the stuff you don't. Yes, all that. Like there's other things you can do because women, it's because women are not as shallow as dudes are. Like they can look around just aesthetic stuff and be attracted to guys for other reasons entirely.

And these bridge trawl dudes, the ones who suck, they also don't have any of those qualities. And some of those things are things that might be attainable. They just won't do it. Like their attitude sucks. They don't try. And that, you know, and they don't realize that that's probably the bigger problem.

then they're, you know, not hitting facial structure. They're not hitting facial structure. And on the one hand, that never works. Like, it's not like a thing that works. But on the other hand,

it's gross. Like, it's so backwards from like, it's a literal lie because what you're saying is like, no, but I was nice. Why are they not? And it's like,

okay, but you're describing evil. You're describing manipulation. Fucking worm. You should be nice to people. Mm-hmm. And then you should be interesting. And if you are,

some woman will be like, have you seen his hands? They're so fucking sexy. Because that's the other thing they'll do. They'll like fetishize a part of you after they've decided you're an interesting person. Yep. Yes, that is true. But every dude has known multiple other guys that are like not conventionally attractive, but that, you know, do pretty well, as they say.

Or who pull as they also. I don't know if they still say those things. Those are probably outdated phrases. Yeah, or you'll see a dude who is like, is like decent enough looking. There was this guy in South Africa named Colin, and he wasn't a bad looking guy. So it wasn't like, I can't believe you're getting the date. He would make out with multiple women every night we'd go out.

And it was unbelievable. And finally, I had to ask a woman. And I was like, hey, listen, I'm not, it's not even like I'm going to write this down. I'm just so curious. That dude, I'm not shocked. he's kissing women. I'm shocked he's kissing hot ones in four a weekend.

What is happening? And she said, he is safe without being too safe. And at the time, I was like, well, that doesn't mean anything. I'm going to go kill myself.

But as I've gotten older, but as I've gotten older, I'm like, oh, that's what it is, dude. He's interesting enough, but without like seeming like a prick

or whatever, like they're comfortable around him. She basically was like, yeah, like he seems like it's like a kind of little brother. character and then the next thing you know his tongue's down your throat and she's like in this important part and then if you're like okay that was enough for me he goes cool and it's done with

you know you're not like you don't have to then fight him off it's not a guy if you let him kiss you then you have to like get him the fuck out of your room later that night right anyway yeah i'm 40 i don't care about any of this anymore other than comedy the man's playing thing does get to me i do the reason i do i mean brought this was brought this up a lot And I mean, boys. Yeah, but I say you will. I think you, you'll get back into it, I would imagine, or maybe you just want. They might, they're, I have teenage sons now.

They're 13 and 14. And they are exhibiting zero signs of any of that. I don't want anybody to mistake me. I just worry about it every day. Yeah, dude. Well, like ignorance. So, you know. Yeah.

There's, dude, there's so many situations. Not so many. There's like two or three situations I can think of them from my youth. of like, it's a bad read. You know, I meant nothing by it. I'm not talking about like, yeah, dude, I didn't know you weren't supposed to hold them down. I don't mean that.

I just mean like, I just mean like situations where I'm like, oh, I wish I wasn't ignorant about how that probably felt for her in the moment. Oh, yeah, without a doubt, bro. Fucking, I was in college and the aughts or whatever in that era. Yeah. It was right before the end. It was right before we learned. Yes, absolutely.

It was grad school when I was like, oh, some of the people I used to hang out with, probably should go to prison. And like a lot of those moments in time, it was like, you know, at just a fever pitch because it was reaching a, you know, a boiling point at which time then, you know, people, society learned. It was like, hey, maybe this stuff isn't cool. And the reason it got to that point is because it was like, you know, really right out of control, dude.

Well, it's the beautiful thing in the internet. There's a lot of fair complaints about, like, it flatlining culture and all that. Music sounds the same and all this other stuff. But like, dude, we needed to be public, like, what am I trying to say? Across geographically, we all need to be having these conversations and go, wait a minute. Right. This isn't really rare. Oh, we've got to do something.

Because let me say this too, in case anyone thinks I'm like a former date rape. than I'm not. Also, let me say, though, like, you did know some things were the line. You didn't need anyone to teach you. Yeah, you're right. I don't want to be missing because sometimes people like, like, oh, it was a different time and it wasn't. But, like, there were definitely, there were things. People, there still were lines.

The lines drawn as clearly as they should have been or whatever. There were also problems. But there were things that you could be a fucking creep back then and, you know, and it would be a problem or whatever. Like a man there was this dude last I heard he was GM of like a B or a C room comedy club in fucking Florida that his grandparents own or something but he was on my football team we had the party house my senior year well my long story short my doors unlocked I'm like who the fuck's in my rooms I was like oh he's in there with old girl and I'm like did wouldn't we just like cleaning up her puke a minute ago when they were like yeah I was like no fuck that you know I was like beating on the door beating on the where he finally answered like, what the fuck, dude? I'm like, what the fuck?

What? Get the fuck out of my room. And he's like, oh, okay, fine. We'll go to forces room. I was like, fuck that. Look at her. We look over. She just fell back on the bed.

Right. I was like, you get the fuck out of my house. Yeah. And then me and my buddy carried her home. But I just remember being like, oh, I didn't need a seminar for that. Fuck that guy. And I told him that. And he was not welcome there and blah, blah, blah.

But then there's like plenty of other things I don't know what man, just like Show your tit! Show you just like Yeah, yeah. You're just like, hey, you know, the sixth time you yell that, she probably hated that, you know?

Right. You know, it's like, oh man, we're just having fun. Yeah, right. Yeah. No, I mean, I remember, and you know, I was, when did Austin Powers come out, like 98? Something?

What? Just the context of what we're, saying. No, but for real, though. So his whole, you know, he's a part of the whole joke with that character is he's a, you know, a coxman and everything. And Elizabeth Hurley is the female Lee at the height of her powers,

you know. And there's a scene in that first movie, 1997. So again, I was only 11 when that came out. So I'm a child. I'm years away from drinking beer or anything. But I remember, like, looking back on it as an adult, I'm like,

oh, yeah. So he's like, you know, There were still standards. People knew stuff. There's a scene in that movie where she like comes on to him and he shuts it down because, you know, he's like, you'll drunk, you know, you'll drunk baby. It wouldn't be right or whatever. And as an 11 year old or whatever, like going through puberty and stuff and just saying it, she's just trying to like kiss him and everything. And then he stops. And you're sitting there going like, what?

Why the hell would you ever do that, you know? But. That was the goal. Right. But in, the reason I laughed so hard, great pull. What I thought you were about to say is, I mean, dude, Austin Powers came out. I was walking around parties like, do I make you horny, baby? And that is not cool.

I don't know why that's what I thought you were about to tell me. But that's kind of a point. And you acted like him. Because that's kind of a point is like that move, those movies were a lot of that, obviously, type of thing. But they still, those movies and that character had a like moral compass about. it or whatever. So as far as like there were still, there were lines back then and people sometimes like they're just, there weren't, you know. And then you think, because one thing I'm referencing on stage right now, this is different. This is, I'm not going to bring up Epstein

shit with four minutes left. But also in that same vein about how things were different with all that years ago, I'm referencing a thing right now where I say, I'm talking about all this Epstein stuff is making people reevaluate where they stand on things. There's a lot of the hardcore Trump fans who's loved this guy for years. They see all these Epstein emails and they're like, damn, I have to reeval where I stand on this now. And then they go out back and scrape the kill your local pedophile bumper sticker off the back of their truck, you know?

And they're like, I'm going to have to get some pro pedophile merch, I guess. And then I say, I don't know, I guess I have to call up Uncle Randy and see if you still got any of those old, if there's grass on the field play ball shirts that he used to wear in the 80s or whatever. and everybody like laughs and groans or whatever. But what I'm saying is, though that type of shit, you know, that and jailbake magazine and all that type of stuff

was like just out on Front Street for a long time, you know. But there were still people who were like, you shouldn't fuck. If it came out, though, that Trump was only banging 15 year olds and older, yeah, there's a lot of people who would openly be okay with that. Now,

that ain't what's in there. Right. Because they know that. and they had released that already. They'd be like, hell, what are you going to do, son? Grass on the field. That aside, without having to get into that, just an idea for a tag or something to do slightly differently.

Maybe just say that about scraping off the local pedophile thing. Maybe just a tag of like, I can't get it off. All right, highlight local. Make local. We're only killing the local ones. Yeah, right. Because I saw one of those the other day, I'm like, I don't know.

I do want to kill my local pedophile, but I think we need to go bigger than local right now. I kind of think this is the problem is we're all trying to kill the local pedophile. We kind of need to kill the national ones. Yeah, no, exactly. Well, all those guys that have those bumper stickers and stuff for, you know. I know we're at a time, but I have to bring this up because this literal thing. Andy has been shopping for murdering pedophile merch.

And we were talking about how funny of a sketch it could be. That other people make that she just. just going to wear she's she wants to buy yeah she wanted to buy like a fuck pedophiles type shirt right well because they had been previously only marketed to conservatives right the font is always so terrible and he was scrolling on her phone being like mean there ain't no pretty murder of pedophile shirts not surprised at all they all got like skeletons on motorcycles and shit on them and like flames and flags and eagles and skulls and stuff and all that type of super cool shit and it's like that uh we called it a back the blue font yes absolutely these colors don't run perfect font name back the back the blue font yeah

i know exactly what you mean grunt core is the name of that oh okay i didn't know it has titled at grunt core grunt core okay and i was also saying like it's good but annie you could probably get them for half off now that there's no market for it on that side of the aisle and i was just like man, there's something there, sketchwise. Yeah, my favorite one of those, I've sent it a million times and brought it up before, too, and I still don't know. I assume it's like a joke, but there's so many like generators for T-shirts and they pump out wild shit and who the fuck knows. But my favorite one of the grunt core things I ever saw was during the Colin Kaepernick thing. And it was a man shirt, very man-fonte or whatever.

And it said, the only time this patriot takes a knee is to suck a hero officer's dick. So good, dude. and that's fucking hilarious. But anyway, I think we're out of time. Thank you all for listening and watching, whatever the case may be this week. Come see me live. I'm in, uh, what,

Chicago next? I think Chicago and then Denver and Steamboat Springs. I don't know who lives there. I don't know if anybody lives there, but I know if you're tourist and then there, whatever, if you're in Colorado, come see me in Chicago too.

And then a bunch of places after that, all at tricrouter. dot com. I think there's an Air Force base there, right? Oh, I don't know. I mean, I know it's a ski town for sure. Yeah, well, I'm huge in the Air Force, Air Force man and their family. I feel like it is the local heat. Like when I'm in Denver, if anyone makes a swinger joke, they place the swingers in Steamboat Springs. Okay. That they have springs there and one, I was looking into the hot springs because Katie and the boys are going with me. And like, there's two main hot springs. And when I was looking into one of them, I was like, oh, this is like a sex thing.

And it very much definitely is. Like you just look at the website and it's definitely a sex thing. But the other one is going to. Yeah. So, yeah, when you're in Denver, you'll hear people make some joke and then it'll be like, it's like they don't even have to explain it. You know, that's where the perverts live. I think I do have quite a few swinger fans and say that that type of thing maybe. So, yeah, maybe it's not a bad market.

We'll see. I will be in Denver. I'll be in New Orleans, Denver, Bristol, coming up in March and early April. In that order, I'm pretty sure. You can go to Drew Morgancombe.com for tickets. I have not posted them yet. A few people hit me up on the Denver show.

We're like, where the fuck are these tickets? And I'm like, let me message Ben Kronberg. And I keep forgetting to do that. I should do that. Check out gravy, baby. We've got a lot of cool stuff going on there. We've been interviewing a lot of labor organizers and mutual aid organizers

and just talking to people who've been doing the work for years that is just going to be so important going forward. Everyone's looking around going, what do we do? These people know some of the answers because they've been doing it already.

And we're having a good time and we're going to start raising money soon for what we have kind of tongue-in-cheekly called Sharp Bus, where we're going to create a mutual aid first response type vehicle where we take food to, you know,

people who are like working on a fucking flood or whatever's going on. and we also do comedy. So check us out. Gravy, baby. All right. That's it. Thank you all for listening to the well-read show.

We'd love to stick around longer, but we got to go. Tune in next week if you got nothing to do. Thank you. God bless you. Good night. In skew. Fart, butt. Fart, butt, click.