wellRED podcast - DJ LEWIS RETURNS!

Episode Date: January 21, 2026

Our great buddy DJ LEWIS returns to chop it up with Drew in Cho and Trae’s absence  go to SqaureSpace.com/Wellred for a free trial!

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DJ, DJ Lewis. They, we look like the two most tired motherfuckers that's hip. Yeah, it's pretty early. I woke up at 4.30 and couldn't go back to sleep. That's my only excuse. That's a gnarly one. My son's a good excuse for at least two more years, but at least right now for me, in reality, not an actual legit excuse. Right.

It's just the panic, the absolute dread and torment of the fucking world, or is it just? Yeah, dude. Oh, yeah. It's everything. It's me. Let's start there. Let's start with our baseline. The bottom of the pyramid is Drew's personality.

let's put right on top of that ate too late I ate too late I'm going to wake up if I eat too late and then the next layer would probably be everything that's going on and then the layer for that that is my fucking doctor won't give me any goddamn benzos because the thing is

when you ask a doctor for benzos I think there's like a rule maybe where they're like well he asks for him he can't have them because I was like hey man I had my first panic attack in many years. My anxiety's through the roof. I got some flights coming up. I know how this sounds. Just give me four.

Yeah. One for each flight. I got two flights coming up. He's like, how about a boost bar? So I took one of those. Nope. Like,

what are we doing here? Anyway, sometimes I wake up in the middle of night and can't go back to sleep. And then I look like this. What's your... Yeah. Well,

Messi has laminitis. And like, so there's a whole lot of getting up in a morning and stretching out her tendons and stuff like that. Yeah. Yeah. So. Actually, I guess let me do this. I think everyone listening knows who you are. But on the outside chance, you know, Trey and Corey and Corey, they're very active in the world.

I think we get new listeners from time to time. Oh, yeah. And I'm not, maybe I'm bringing in new listeners, but they probably know who you are. But anyway, DJ Lewis is an illustrious comedian, rapper, goat farmer. and all around great man. Oh, thanks, man. And Nessie is a goat. It's funny because I imagine someone not knowing who you are.

You're just being like, you know, Nessie's got Linitis. I'm going to get up in a stretch every morning. And they're like, maybe he's got a wife named Nessie. That's kind of crazy. Yeah. Oh, Ness. She's a, yeah, but she's got Laminitis. So along with like the morning, just a regular,

morning chores of like feeding and like beating the fucking ice off everything. We have to stretch her tendons out because it pulls their tendons back and then they can't walk. You know, they go lame. Laminize. They go lame. So it's like a whole thing. It's a whole therapy thing that, you know, and then we just set her out in the field and then she just goes. But like, it's like it's a whole fucking thing.

But, you know, we love her, so it's okay. I was listening. but I also already knew all that. Okay. The audience, which is important. But if it feels like I zoned out, it's because I completely did.

I started adjusting my lighting. I think part of the reason, too, that I look so tired is I got these big fucking shadows. Anyway, man, I hope that, I hope you stretch you and that. So wait, is that what goat yoga is?

It's not just doing my thing. It's trying to prevent them babies from going lame. I don't. No, and actually, I'm going to be 100% honest. Like, I'm not with the goat yoga stuff. Like, you shouldn't teach the, you should, you have to teach some sort of space with a goat. You know what I mean? Like, you have to, like, because if they don't have that, that space between them,

if they don't have respect for you, then dude, they're going to be, they don't end up beating a fuck out of everybody. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah. Just let them jump on you and stuff like that. Huh? Is this an experience?

based opinion? Yeah, dude, I got one out there and whoop you fucking death and had a fucking UTI, right? So we had to wrestle this motherfucker down and like give it a and give it a shot.

But it's a fucking mad motherfucker dude. But I like that you explained it out because I think if we just

let our imaginations fill in the gap it would be like well yeah dj's a farmer he thinks it's ridiculous when people treat their animals that way because animals are for uh you know farm work and or eating and it's like well no let's go lives inside and he'd be giving them shots and stuff he thinks that's bad practice in general it's not on some pap all shit no no they're great you've been on any papaw shit lately have i been on any papaw shit yeah uh Just getting up the soil amended and just like doing Gary shit. You know what I'm saying?

Being full throttle Gary. The ground's real fucking wild right now up here. And so there's like a top layer of frozen and there's a bottom layer of like absolute mush. And that's just I don't know. But we've got our seeds coming in. So we got a few more beds put it put in. So pretty excited about it. Well, you better wait to put them beds in son.

and then you're about to get a winter storm. I know we might get it. I know we might to get it. Yeah. Also, I guess I should have said this. I mean, people have figured half of this out at this point. Trey and Corey are both on vacation. I think Corey might be back or was supposed to be back,

but is under the weather. So maybe send him a little message. They asked me to take care of it this week. I thought about doing it just alone because, you know, I don't want to bother nobody. And then, dude, it's so funny we were talking about the anxiety and all that earlier. I just kind of thought about what would happen if I talked to myself for an hour.

And I was like, yeah, somebody to do this with it. And obviously you and I talk frequently. We have a podcast called Gravy Baby with our good friend, Carmen Morales, the very funny Carmen Morales, who's also joined me on this show before when the boys were in Scotland. Check out Gravy, Baby. We got a lot of stuff. I'm sure we're getting to later about that. But yeah, we're about to get winter stormed right into the booty hole.

Are you preparing for that as a man living on a farm with animals who live outside? Oh, hell yeah, dude. Man, they're straight as hell. I mean, as far as the goats go, they're set up for that type of stuff and their beds and their houses and their shelters are like straw and are warm as hell. So, like, the wind doesn't get in. It's really the wind that gets them because they get pneumonia really. So it's like, yeah, yep, yep, yep, yep. But they've got deep straw beds and wonderful, wonderful doors and shelters and minerals.

They're straight. Yeah, I think we've talked before on here. I live on like a half farm, meaning that my in-laws are retired, grew up in Appalachia and have a little bit of money. And I don't mean that in like a disparaging way. just like it's not a real farm but like there's animals that will die if I don't go and if they do die

it won't affect anyone's life at all. I guess that's why I'm saying it's not it's not like for sustenance or anything like that. It's no one's job but yeah we're being prepared to be fucked in the booty hell too and I've got this balance this is an interesting

existential thing too father-in-law is you know he's on the tail end of it I don't want to, like, throw any bad juju in the world. I think he's got some years left, but not 30, we'll say that. Yeah. There's this thing with men, and I'm sure there's a woman version of it, too, but it's especially true of boomers, people of my dad's age.

On the one hand, I see him, like, putting wood in the boiler at 10 o'clock at night at 9-degree weather. And I'm like, why am I letting him do that? this. On the other hand, I'm like, well, if I start doing everything for him, he's retired, like, I'm not, like, it's like, I'm not saying this is what it is to be a man, but like, it's what it is to be Jim. Yeah. It's to take care of shit. Yeah. So it's like trying to figure out, like, all right, I'm kind of here to help take care of him, but part of that feels like letting him do some stuff. Yeah, for sure. But then it's also real convenient because it's nine degrees I ain't trying to go outside. I'm like, look, Andy, your dad is the kind of man who needs

autonomy. It just so happens that I get to stay inside when I argue that. Yeah, well, also, and I'm going to be 100% honest with you, like, this morning, you go out, check on everybody, you get their fucking, well, we have, like, heated, some heated water buckets, but like, if they don't have to leave the shelters, we don't want them to, but the water inside there, to do it and they pee and stuff so you gotta pull all that stuff out you don't want them just because you know it stays nine degrees until like 10 you know what I mean so it's like so it's like you got to pull all that stuff out of there and stuff and it's like I've got to the point where like I don't know what I would do if I wasn't doing that mm-hmm you know what I'm

saying so like it's part of your routine now right so like I don't know if he would know what would he do if he wasn't doing that? I mean, from what I can tell, scroll on his phone. Does he got the boomer scroll? Oh, yeah. They got it, man. Okay. They all got it.

I think I woke my mother and all up. Well, I didn't. We had to have the dog inside because it's so cold. And I think the dog woke her up because I woke the dog up. we have a our outside dogs dude this some bitch the Anatolia Shepard

like she's just lay doesn't give a fuck never even goes inside just fucking lays out there barks at every fucking noise I don't I don't know what

breed that is it's not one that's familiar to me I'm going to go back to my spot in a minute I'm closing the door on YouTube I'm sorry that you're getting this tour of my house what kind of books you got there

Well, I said my house. I'm actually at my in-laws. Oh, all right. Yeah, he's definitely got the boomer scroll. Oh, yeah, and that dog you got it. I've seen that dog. That dog's got a coat. That dog don't want to be inside.

No, not at all. Yeah, well, that's Jim. Jim's an outside dog. And when you let an outside dog inside, well, they don't get up to good. I'll tell you that. It's straight Fox News and the worst memes you've ever seen. Right. Yeah.

Pronal cortex, brother. I'll be, I've been trying to tell. I've been trying to tell the boomers all the time, man. You got to protect that amygdala, bud. You got to, you got to protect the cortex, man. Well, an old bit. You can't be getting fired up 20,000 times a day. That's not good for your blood pressure at all.

Your brain. An old bit from our podcast, Gravy Baby, but Carver-Ralice available now, wherever you want to get it. An old bit from that or maybe from the one before it. Pat-balls need to be a hard. That is a conclusion. You and I can't do a long time. They should be, by the way, he does that too.

He goes with his war buddies. That's what he calls him. That's his word. No, maybe he says Army. Maybe I change it to war. But they go have breakfast at a diner and it's like, yeah, that's where y'all is supposed to be. Because if you say all that wild shit there and then Dale goes, damn, and then he

goes back home and then he forgets about it because he's got his own wood boiler to deal with. But instead, you say that shit there. Dale goes back home and then Dale's like, damn, I got to talk to somebody else about this. Let me get on this phone with the letters. 19 sizes too big. My dad started watching his videos without headphones. I don't know when he stopped.

So now I'm just home and my dad will just be scrolling. And I'll hear like, do you know who Derek Stroop is? Yeah, yeah. Derek Strip's a very funny comedian in the Nate Bargotsie world. But I'll hear my dad like watching his videos and laughing and I'll be like, yeah, I did that same joke three years ago, Dad, but I guess you didn't catch that version of it. Real thing that happened to me, I often believe I live in a Matrix that was designed to torment me.

But yeah, you know, I'm trying to let him be him. Sure. You were talking about, you know, like, what would I do? What else would I do? I mean, what would you do? What would I do? Yeah, like, God forbid. I did. I don't want to put the bad juz you on you, but like you had to move.

Like, and then farming wasn't like a possibility. What would you do? I'd get up to some kind of scheme. Dog, I'd be scheming and dreaming, dog. Shark hands. Yeah, shark busting. Yeah, shark busting. You know what I'm saying? I've been saying that. Tray let me go on. News. They turn, I'm telling you, dude, they turn well-read podcast over to me solely. If you guys haven't watched Evening Skews this week, Trey's news show, they let me host, and I don't think I'm coming back. his producer, who's a good friend of mine and who is having me and you on later,

talk about short stuff that we'll get into in a minute, a little bit. So, like, you know, he's not mad at me. He's having me on his little auxiliary saying, but he was like, yeah, I got to cut some of that. Mark was like, the FBI is going to come to your door. I was like, dog, please let him. This FBI, imagine you wake up, you just see Cash Patel's eyes all the way up against your glass. If they're not blinking. It's crime time.

I've been saying it to everybody. And I guess to put that out a little bit. Guys, they're making, you know, in Minnesota, like, people are trying to, like, help families who've gone underground. I mean, that's what's happening. Families have gone underground in Minnesota to, you know, hide from ice and other people are doing their laundry or making them food. And I just trying to make that illegal. And so, like, my thing is, like, look, if they're making. helping your neighbor is illegal.

Then you're already doing crime if you're doing the right thing. Might as well throw some more crime in there. Do you know what I mean? I do know what you mean. Exactly. I'm picking up what you're putting down, but... It's not a great analogy, but I can't help but think about like, you know how like when you're at the bar

and you've gone a little too? Like you're like, oh, I got work the next day. I can only have one or two. And then you have four. You've already fucked workup. Why would you not stay for the band? It's like that. me this time you didn't fuck work up. Someone else did.

Yeah. That's a great analogy. Stay for the band. Stay for the band. Like if you're already doing the right thing and you should be, then you are going to be made illegal. That's what's, at first it was these people were illegal. Remember when they were calling them illegals?

Now you're an illegal. If you're just being a good person, you might as well stay for the band. And by that, I mean credit card fraud or whatever you like. Yeah, I don't know. man, fucking, like, once they make, like, doing the right thing illegal and, like, you're getting pardoned for doing the wrong thing. Like, you, what are you, what are we doing? What are you doing?

What are you like, what are you trying to follow? Feelings wrong. It's like, yeah, from my neighbor. Yeah, there's a, you know, like, you ludicrous had hos in different area codes. Oh, yeah, for sure. I'm allowed to do crime outside of mine. Yeah. Yeah, dude. It's righteous. It's righteous.

Just don't think there's any rules anymore, which is wild. Have you been watching Davos? Any of the Davos? Davos is genuinely pure evil. Yeah, which is wild. I mean, I agree totally. I think Davos is done. I think pretty much in like a couple of years it'll be like they're going to funnel all this stuff out. to Qatar me, and they pretty much already said as much. Like, they'll be having an Abu Dhabi or whatever. You know what I mean?

Yeah. But can you tell people who don't know what it is, what it is? At the World Economic Forum, it's where all the, like, you know, the leaders of the world meet and talk about economics and discuss. And they have panels. Dude, there's this panel with fucking Larry Fink. And, dude, he's just such a ghoul, man. Let's switch this out a little bit. One way, if you don't want to pause and research Davos real quick,

I bet everyone listening if they're online at all, which how else would they know about the Will Rip Podcast? Remembers a viral clip from like three, four years ago, a guy, I can't remember his first name. I think his last name is Bergstrom. He's an economist, a Dutch guy. He's got a funny voice and a little kind of half-Dutch accent. And he went viral at Davos.

the clip, it's like focused on him and he goes, you know, we're talking about all these ways in which to help people, NGOs, nonprofit, taxes. Why are we talking about taxes? And he goes on this, I would even call it a rant, this just like explanation of how we used to tax rich people. Now we don't. And then we're like, where's all the money? Why can't we help people? And we're at this World Economic Forum.

And we're not allowed to say that. the reason we're not allowed to say that is every one of you in here this is this was like the implication of what he was saying he kind of said it but he didn't go this far because the reason we're not on saying is every one of you in here is sponsored by these rich people yeah they're bringing you here to offer any solution other than taking their money yeah and he was never invited back anyway I think a lot of you probably saw that clip but it has changed I feel like it used to be the sort of almost typical liberal facade. Yeah. Like we're not allowed to talk about taxes, but we are here to talk about how we can funnel nonprofit money into AIDS research or whatever. And now it's go ahead with the Larry Fink. Larry Fink, by the way, is the founder of a planeteer.

I get all my. Black Rock. Black Rock. Okay, go ahead. Yeah, he's a Black Rock CEO. So like, yeah, no, he's just basically. he's like trying to argue I guess a historian

he's trying to argue against why the 38 trillion dollar debt that USN is like fatal you know what I'm saying he's like it's a good thing like it just doesn't matter he couldn't give a fuck less you know what I'm saying

yeah can ask a dumb question yeah who are we in debt to 38 trillion is owed to whom to everybody it. We're aware about it. We're a debtor nation.

We're a debtor nation. I know that. I'm aware of how that works. China? China? I've heard China. Is China at the top of the list? Yeah, I'm sure.

Yeah, of course. Yeah, dude. We'd be buying stuff all the time. We'd be prink money. Okay, let me say this then. I can't believe that I'm devil's advocating on Larry Fink. If you're Larry Fink, I get his point

in terms of like, well, yeah, we're going to war with him anyway. Why the fuck? No, of course. He didn't have a fuck. We're going to send a check? Yeah. We're going to attach it to the bomb? Yeah.

He was also the guy who famously said, it doesn't matter who you vote for. It's like, everybody's like, everybody's freaking out about this is going to be the end of it. It's like, no, rich people are going to be fine. But you was talking to rich people. You know what I'm saying? I wonder.

I wonder when that video got out if any of his comrades in his class were like, hey, bro, you ain't supposed to tell him that. Yeah. Well, they're saying it now. I mean, the guy from Canada,

he was basically up there, Mark Carney, he was basically up there, him and McCrone both. And a lot of people were like, hey, man, we're investing in China. And like,

the neoliberal fucking rules-based order, that was always a lie. He's like basically just saying, like, it was always a lie. It's time to take the sign down. We're not fucking pretending like we're doing this anymore. We do it with bullshit the whole time.

It's so funny watching people share that. Yeah, I know. Of Carney. And I'm sure there are people on here who've seen some of the clips of Carney and they like it because he's kind of shitting on Trump. But if you watch the whole thing, he's kind of like saying like, hey, this dude's like really what he's saying is, man, Trump's bad because he's fucking up the game we got going. Yeah. That's exactly it. Richies.

Don't you see how he's dragging us into war and we won't be able to exploit people if we allow him to do that? It's like watching poor people share that. Yeah. It's been funny to me. I get it to a certain extent. Like to a certain extent I get, I would much rather feel tired at the end of the week because I didn't get paid the appropriate amount for my 40 hours when I really worked 50 than I would get newt. Like I do understand that. Yeah.

Yeah, classic America The classic America, dude Classic, classic the West, I should say I mean, that guy's Canadian Well, yeah, for sure, yeah, no, no, no, yeah, yeah. Man, we got into it pretty quickly with Davos. I really thought we might save that, but here we are. Yeah, we're here.

Well, it's just been, it's been interesting watching everybody because it's like TPSA, dude, it's just, it's like, that's how, that's, all are, our entire the entire west like you know China will go up there and talk and they'll talk

about the investments that you're gonna make like this I totally while everybody else is this weird dramatic like confrontational

fucking speech it gets you know not to the point where TPSA was that last thing that they had where Eric and Ben Shapiro came out

yeah yeah like you're jokingly comparing Davos to TPSU because your point is it's clearly for the sound bite

like sure they're going to the WWE flashbang pyrotechnics. Yeah, well, yeah. But they are doing theater.

Yeah. Oh, my show. Yeah. There's something gut-rinchingly dark about that. Yeah. Yeah. Dark. Yeah.

Yeah. Man. What a world. I've been calling it. And I think I've talked about this on here, on Well, read before. It's the WWEification of our culture. I want to do, I want someone else to do. I want to read. I want to read a thesis on how Eric

Bischoff changed America for the worst accidentally. Eric Bischoff is not solely, but mostly responsible for the comeback of wrestling in America. And he wrote a book about his policy in terms of how they would do their storylines, and it was controversy equals cash. He figured out, he didn't figure out. I think a lot of people knew this in the wrestling business. But he figured out how to like make it a policy. We're like, hey, all we need is people talking about us. Hate is like, why are we afraid as wrestling that the news media is shit talking us? Who cares as long as they're talking about us?

Well, if you expand that into the algorithm, it doesn't explain, but it is like part of the structure of Trump. It's part of the structure of like the Roganverse. It's per the structure of so many things where it's like, hey, as long as they're talking about you, and it's an old thing, right? Like, what's the PR thing? Any, no PR's bad PR. It's that to the max. You know what I mean? Yeah.

Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely, man. Yeah. I mean, fuck, dude. I mean, dude, when you watch all this stuff happen, you watch about like, fucking Trump obviously doesn't give a fuck about, you. Europe, dude. He doesn't give a fuck about. No. Anybody, really, dude.

I mean, obviously, obviously, they're saying that, but like, it's, it's, it's wild that they would make these kind of proclamations against United, they're going to give up Greenland. What else are they going to fucking do? Like, what else are you going to do?

You're going to have to, you're going to have to give them. I would say make a deal. I mean, all Trump wants to do is walk away this as quote unquote, a winner. Yeah, right. No, I know. So you're going to make a deal. Right. Exactly. You're going to make a deal. If you're smart, you'd fucking make a deal.

You'd say, hey, listen, we need security guarantees for Ukraine or something like that. But instead, he's sending Wittkov from fucking Kushner out to fucking Russia to make fucking real estate fucking deals. It's fucking crazy. Like, what the fuck are you talking about, dude? Like, what the fuck is going on? What a tragedy. Oh, my God.

Dude, you know what I'm saying? Well, one thing it's laid bare for me. you know, there's that, you know, if you're on the internet, infamous drill tweet. In spite of what I said earlier, I was wrong. You do not, in fact, ever have to hand it to ISIS. And that's satire, everybody. At no point, if you don't know who that is, he did not hand anything to ISIS. He was making fun of how people tweet.

And that's like something you would see. Well, I'm saying that in the context of this. I think I've been giving it to the Republican Party. I've been handing it to him for many years on. They're sort of like, not consistency, because anyone whose father knows that that's not what they do. But there is a sort of circle the wagons type thing. Like, okay, going back to the Tea Party, like, hey, if you're not useful to them, they'll throw you away. But it does seem like with Trump, I mean, dude, was it France that leaked info to him, like him and three other people, and it got to

Russia the next day. I'm sure. It does seem like they have completely thrown out. And again, I don't want to imply that they have like morals or standards or a backmole. They have goals. Yeah. The GOP seemed to have goals. I found them to be very evil.

And then they would use people for those goals. It seems like with Trump, they're willing to change their goals. And that's genuinely has shocked me. I'm almost ashamed of my shock, though. Yeah. Well, it's just, it's a. It's surprising. It's just, it's, no, it is, it is shocking.

It is shocking to know. I mean, that's the whole thing about all this stuff is like, it is a, it's, well, dude, speaking of shocking in ISIS, fucking goddamn, fuck, Joe Osharar, whatever, who's in, uh, the new guy in, uh, in Syria. He's just like, let out, what, like 30,000 ISIS fighters out of the prison. Yeah, man. I mean, you knew that was coming on something. Every turn, dude.

I wonder, let's maybe if this break will get into how exactly that guy became the new guy in Syria. That might be an interesting conversation for us to have. Folks, our podcast today is sponsored by Squarespace. And we appreciate the heck out of scares. Let me start over. Corey, you can cut that. Folks, our podcast today is sponsored by Squarespace.

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That's rocketmoney.com slash well-read. Rocketmoney.com slash well-red. Yeah. The illustrious DJ Lewis. We are back. First of all, thank you again for being with us. it's funny we cut a break and I was like, we'll get back to that in a minute.

And now my brain's back ready to get back into it. And yeah, are we going to talk about Syria? I mean, let's do it. And then let's maybe go on some more lighthearted things. Dude,

if I was going to talk about Syria, I would say like this, man. I would say this. And this is Syria after years and years and years of sanctions, right, which works, right? I mean, we've been as well.

I mean, this is like old, but crippling. conversations, internal wars, and then trusting fucking Russia. Why do these people trust Russia? And it comes out, which we know that what? Well, what's their options? Just building your own air defenses.

Dude, it is like they, they have like had their, which I'm not a soddle. I want everyone to imagine DJ yelling at a 20 year old young man who can't stop. banging red flags who drain him of his bank account and his emotional fortitude and DJ going just jack off yeah just jack off just do it you don't have to bang them yeah I don't go ahead though sorry dude Yemen did it if you yet you human fucking human fucking look at them dude undefeatable fucking listen say what you want to about the hoothies right motherfucker don't give a fuck they all their stuff is fucking indigenous man they'll

fuck you up they you know they're gonna fuck you up everybody know they gonna fuck you up or they they're gonna fight like you telling me Syria couldn't do that now instead they got these air defenses by fucking uh Russia and Russia like put the cop over there like yeah you can fight ISIS with these but you can't you can't fight anybody else for them

and then they shut them down and just got got them to fuck up and put not to mention of if you're under sanctions like that right And you're in the Army or whatever getting paid like a can of beans a week. Fucking, you know what I'm saying? Dude, somebody going to come around and be like, hey, yo, we're going to run these HTS people up through here and these ice and you just, you know, whatever. You can go fuck off, whatever, join. Who cares?

Yeah, I have to assume they thought they could, you know, the equivalent of jailbreak their missiles. And that's funny to think about some dude who's like jailbreaking iPhones over in Syria. and they got him in there like can you do it to the missile and he's like nah man it's all in russian yeah well that's i mean that's i mean that's how it is with us dude like people use our air defenses and stuff we don't give them like the like in ukraine like it's the it's we give them the coordinates and all the stuff for it you know what i'm saying like we do that it's like uh yeah we have to be able to control where it's going to blow up it's exactly especially it's kind of like john deer the farmers where it's like uh you don't you know like you know

or buy the tractor. You're just licensing. Bro. Yeah. Right. Yeah. For sure. That's exactly like.

You got to build your own. Yep. Hey, you heard it here first, folks. Build your own rockets. Build your own rocket. Build your own tater gun. Just use a tater gun. If you don't think a tater gun, take out a drone,

buddy, have I got news for you? That came up recently on here where Trey was talking about how excited he would be. And of course, we talked about you. I'm trying to remember what it was. How excited. he would be for any sort of how much he would support any tater gun resilience he was basically getting at like if i saw a tater gun i'd have to know a lot before i decided i wasn't on that person's team like outside of them putting a swastika on the tater maybe that's not what you're saying that's how

i maybe i said that but like outside of putting a swastika on the tater gun i am assuming it's kind of like you're presumed innocent until proven guilty until you're proven not until you're proven fuckhead, until you're proven ice. If you got a tater gun, I am with you. Dude, you can get like a t-shirt can in it

and just fill it with a bag full of taters. Like a buckshot fucking russet, fucking... I'm glad you, I'm going to say, yet another example of them taking our culture and then gussying it up

and then acting like we're dumb rednecks and they're geniuses. A t-shirt cannon, what's that if not a tater gun for the Connecticut house line? Exactly, dude. I put a whole bag of russets in that motherfucker,

buckshot it's a dude. Dude, can you imagine? Got me a whole bag of russets. We're just, we, me, and hillbillies, we're just better than everybody. I'm sorry. Dude, yeah, number one.

Killing it. I bet there's some of the Westerners out there right now. Like, you think you invented the Tater gun, you pieces of shit. Y'all just were the idiots dumb enough to blow yourselves up on tape and made it famous. But Tators, where'd that come from? Idaho.

Right. Some Shorzie talking Northerner. Sounds like he's from Canada. Yeah. Sorry, but we invented the potato gun in 18.

Shut the fuck up. Yeah, dude. I mean, I went up over Taterguns. I was excited and I'm mad. Dude, it's going to be wild. Who secedes first? Will it be Minnesota or will it be Alberta?

You know what I'm saying? Like which... Gavin News loses the election. It'll be California. or were my two choices just those two. Like, what does California succeed to? The ocean? Themselves.

Get the fuck out. They are. They're alone the seventh biggest economy in the world. That, I mean, okay, well, if Hollywood dies, right, and fucking all the tech people leave, what happened? Why would either of those things, because they succeed, you mean? Like, then people would dip? Yeah, yeah. Why would they?

Gavin Newsom offers. both of them. Everything's free. You don't have to have unions anymore. Okay. Yeah, you're making a good point. All right. You need slaves?

Great. I didn't want to get rid of the homeless. You're right. You're right. Oh, you're right. Ah, you're right. Ugh. Oh, God.

Yeah. Do you think Trump will die during his fourth term? We're having a good time, folks. Here's the World Red podcast. It's funny. because when Trace started doing skews, part of the conceit was, not even conceit, this is what we all wanted,

was to do less politics on well-read. And this is just a coincidence, but basically as soon as, that was like kind of post-pandemic-y, it was just like everything was doomy and gloomy, and then things felt like they were going to normalize, and it was like, yeah, let's, and then, basically we said that

Trump made a comeback, Gaza started happening. You're talking the tail end of like burning cop cars. It was like it was just funny how like we were like, you know what? Let's step away from politics right now. It doesn't seem to be that important.

You know what really matters is sourdough bread. Well, it's got its place. It's got its place. Yeah, man. So. Can I pivot real fast? Please do. Okay.

There's a new documentary. There's a new Moss Man documentary out now. Let me, for people who don't know that I'm a Moss Man truther. And listen, my original, and I want to explain this, my original argument against Mothman, wasn't against Moth Man, it was just that the Flatwoods monster is a better, is a better cryptid. It's a better cryptid. I always thought that the mothman story was kind of lame.

You know what I mean? Yeah. So, and this is a theory not that is mine alone. This comes from a lot of people who do research and stuff like this. So, so the theory is, the theory is that Mothman was basically a Psyop that was created in collaboration between, between Union Carbide, the factory, and the CIA. And so basically what happened, what you will find in John Keels the Mothman Diaries,

is that the people were had, one of the visions that the people of Point Pleasant were having, where these dreams of the factory burning down, the Union Carbite factory. Well, they had all gone on strike, right? this is a whole separate thing that it's kind of mentioned in passing you can kind of get

if you go into other writings about the time in Point Pleasant that this thing was like going on Union Carbide by the way was making like drones before drones were drone to aerial stuff

gases weapons it was during the Vietnam War it was there was a war there was a war shit you know what I'm saying aviation you know what I'm saying and don't forget there was a lot of like World War II depots the explosives and stuff so it had always been kind of a hub for that type of activity right for so that's in Virginia too right it's not just in Virginia but and here's a big here's a big thing it is right on the corner of Kentucky and Ohio right like okay so

Check it out. All right. Can I just catch people up a little bit? Yeah, go ahead. I think everyone's aware of the Mothman. Like, there's a richer gear movie for fuck's sake. Mothman is an American cryptid myth, whatever you want to call it. It's not quite as popular or famous as Bigfoot.

I think most people know that. There's a lot of conspiracies around it for various reasons, but one of them is DJ's laying out is it had everyone who first started hallucinating it or whatever you want to call it experiencing it. had these visions of the carbide factory burning down. And it turns out that that particular company is sort of proven to be on, like, however you feel about conspiracy theories, it's been,

it's pretty open that they've been on some war shit and some government shit. And they're evil. They're like responsible for one of the biggest like workplace disasters in history, dude. Like there's an, look at the Wikimpedians. Furn terrible, dude. It's terrible. It's awful.

It's totally awful. So I think on top of, of like all the mk ultra shit that was going on you know what i'm saying and and this and what it wasn't going to 161 right dude here to go so they have this little place that's up there and they're able to while these workers are on strikes not just only distract the people there of of the town of the of the of the uh point pleasant the workers distract them but also discredit them from the the the growing labor movement that was anti-war labor movement that was going on. Do you know what I'm saying?

So you don't have because, dude, they were already scared of the South unionizing. Do you know what I'm saying, Blair, Mount, all this. So, you know, they was already scared of them getting the woke mine virus and picking up arms and shit. So, like, if this had of, like, come in, like, it just makes sense that they would, that they would create the psychological operation in this town and in this area. Dude, it is crazy because you'll find these little hints of stuff within this whole mythos. Like, Injured Cold was the smiling man who met this, which was part of the whole mothman, Point Pleasant mythos, right? So he's from outer space and he met this one guy.

I can forget his name. But he meets him and he meets this. He guys from, I'm from outer space and I'm going to take you to outer space and all that. So they described this guy as being a salesman, right? Not injured cold, but the man who meets injured code. They described him as a salesman. The only reason he was a salesman is because that was the work he was doing while he was on strike. It's the same thing with Betty and Barney Hill.

If you look this up, was a famous abduction case. They were a mixed couple. Barney Hill was massively like involved in the NAACP and this whole civil rights activism. So then they just happened to get picked up by a UFO one day totally discredited. You know what I'm saying?

Now you're a kooky loon. You're a kooky loon. This shit you're talking, you know what I'm saying? They were doing this shit. Okay. In conjunction. Let's tell people who they are real quick.

I think people have figured it out. just in case. Who that? The aliens? It's a CIA. It's also a Union Carbide. The CIA, thank you. Yes.

It's the CIA and Union Carbide together using weapons that they probably were making in their testing stuff, do it stuff. And that couple, by the way, what you're talking about comes directly, the evidence of that comes directly from release files. Yeah, you can listen to them. them talking to the psychologist going to put them in the hypnotize yeah i mean i've seen that i've read that and i love when people you know i know that some of the stuff can get pretty out there but i love when people are like what are you talking about and i'm like i know i also think it's crazy and wish it wasn't true but like there are there are documents that the cia literally did this yeah yeah but yeah dude yeah and then but hey now they're cool right guys

Yeah, never did. Yeah, Trump's CIA, though. They would never get up to some fuck shit. Anyway, get back to the carbide. Union carbide. Okay, Union Carbide. Well, yeah, that was a factory that was on that people were striking from. They just didn't want these people to join the anti-labor movement.

Okay, so all that's going on. Then you have these men in black, right? And this was the craziest. Like, people were saying, like, oh, you know, these men in black were coming in, these faceless people were coming on and they were intimidating if you were asking any question. John Kiel, the author of the Mothman

Prophecies, if you read anybody's read that book. More like Mothman scoffices. Well, he completely fucking spirals out into this paranoia shit, man. And it's like it's really interesting to see like

what I believe is the whole men in black and this whole like this strangeness that is occurring there is mafia related. How we got the mafia in it? Yeah, because the mafia was already involved in like anti-union actions and anti- They were brutal.

They're tied into the feds, the CIA. I mean, they were integrated. Is that how the mafia was involved in something? And so opi instead of just beat everybody up. Well, that was the intimidation. That's what they were doing. They were coming in and telling everybody, yeah, you look, you didn't see nothing. You don't know nothing.

What the fuck you're talking about? And then the people would go and they'd say, yes, we were visited by these guys. They were dressed in these suits and these hats. But I didn't see their face. Yeah, their face is kind of weird. I don't know. Oh. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. What do you look like? Couldn't tell you. Couldn't tell you. He was weird and he was mean, but, you know. A little blurry. Yeah.

We're just glad everybody's having fun. Okay, fast forward. Fast forward to now, this new documentary, right? The guy that made Earthworm Jim, do you remember Earthworm Jim? Yes. Yes. Okay. I can't believe Earthworm Jim.

Not Earthworm Jim. Not E.J. E.W. It's so fucking wild So he's gonna make a movie Right He's gonna make a movie About Mossman

They go up to Point Pleasant This is like in the 90s right All this fucking crazy shit Starts happening right All this like wild people are following people are mad Because we're walking around with cameras They don't know what's going on some of the cameras come up missing.

All this stuff is going. And I don't want to ruin the, I don't want to ruin it for anybody that wants to go out there. It's called Moth Man, the movie that was never made. But what I can tell you is that it makes the connection between Point Pleasant and that whole Wheeling area, all that stuff. It makes the connection between them and the Cleveland and Pittsburgh Mafias. they were definitely in there

they were definitely hiding guns there was a meeting point to where they could do off stuff that you could get you can get to right across the bridge from Ohio you could move this you can move that dude before 2003 when it became like the you gotta think about this

it just now became like 2003 is when it became the tourist destination that it is before that they didn't even have a sign dog you didn't even know you was in point you had no idea dude This was until 2003, you had no idea what the fuck was going on there. And, dude, they was doing some shit with some gambling machines.

Dude, there was this Hari Krishna cold that was doing all kind of crazy shit, dude. It was fucking, they was laundering money, dude. It is fucking wild. But anyways, it is the key that makes me believe that the theory of the Saia is right. And that's not to say that you shouldn't enjoy the Moss Man and all that. As a matter of fact, I think this whole story turned out great. for point pleasant i think at the end of the day do you know what i mean it really they really turned a bad situation into something really great that everybody can can can enjoy and be a part of

and like you have pride in the mothman you know what i'm saying it's really kind of weird you know what i mean the on that note the last thing i want you to do for the people listening who know what mothman is but don't know much about what you're talking about i think a lot of people are following and and sort of understanding what you're saying to some extent which is There's a big business there that has ties to weapons manufacturing, and there's about to be a strike. So the CIA and the mafia got involved to prevent that from happening because companies and the government want. But how does that connect to the moth man specifically? Well, they were just doing all kind of crazy stuff with flying drones because they were making drones.

These don't mean drones have been around for a long time. So like, I'm a man. So what basically you're saying is they wanted these people on strike to sound insane. So they did insane things to them to make them seem insane. And part of what you and others are basing that on is like, well, where did we get that crazy idea from? How many times we've seen the CIA do it over the years? It's like it's not in their top five, but it's got to be in their top 10 moves. Be like, hey, we got to describe.

I mean, dude, think about Martin Luther King Jr. was discredited. Well, he's a man-horre, right? Yeah. All those stuff about him having affairs. And I'm not saying he did or didn't have an affair. But, like, that was absolutely pushed by the FBI on the CIA. Sure. It's credit, Ham.

And then the couple you were talking about were literally, again, I can't stress this enough, literally abducted, made to believe it was aliens with drugs, relief so that they would sound crazy so that to ruin their work. Yes. It's like everyone says we learn all of our stuff from Israel and the Mossad now. But like, no, they should learn from us. They need to stop killing people in broad daylight and just. make them look nuts. Dave Chappelle had this big thing at the end of his special of like, I'm not suicidal.

If they ever kill me, you know, Israel did it. And it's like, yeah, or, dude, they'll just like get you on tape with some,

getting some trans pussy. And they're going to make you crazy, dog. Yeah. Like, I'm not a huge fan of Dave Chappelle, but like I am worried that what's actually going to happen is they're going to microwave his brain,

dude. Yeah. And if they tell him is really nuts. Yeah. No one would suspect the thing. Even his biggest fans would be like, yeah, I mean, he's been riding a line for a little while. Yeah, no. Of course.

Yeah, dude. For sure. For sure. But one thing that has come of all this that on like a weird positive thing, this is kind of a big transition, but it's fun for me. When I first started to kind of like be a little suspect of Dave Chappelle, one of the things that happened before even the trans stuff or maybe at the same time was like just shitting all over Anthony Bourdain. Yeah. Basically calling him a pussy. Yeah.

Well, now there's like at least two of his personal friends who say he did not commit suicide. Now, I don't believe that, but I bet Dave Chappelle does. I bet Dave Chappelle reads that and is like, oh, shit, they got Bourdain. Like, I think they're going to get me now. And that's a little fun for me that he is like, yeah, well, take it back. Yeah. It's really a double-edged sword because, like, you see, like, Candace Owens and all these people. Yeah, you're crazy.

You're crazy. But also, when you talk about stuff that's going on, it sounds crazy. I've been trying to figure out how to do a bit about that. I mean, I think there are people still right now, well-read fans who watch the news and think we're crazy right now when we have said nothing. But some facts, a little bit of speculation in every part of this podcast, we may be. to say, well, this is what I'm speculating, but here's why. Here's where they literally did this and we have them admitting it. It's just a hard time to be rational. It's a hard time to be rational. For sure. For sure. Because what's rational is completely irrational according to our programming,

according to our culture, according to our social contracts. Right. And those things are dissolving. And man, that's dark. On that note, a real quick plug. We're not ready to full on talk about it yet. But one of the things DJ and I'm working about on and with Carmen, and if you're interested in this, you should listen to Gravy Baby. It's our podcast that we do with Carmen. It comes out every week on Fridays. And it's a fun time.

We always call it good vibes for trash people. Instead of toxic positivity, we practice positive toxicity. What you will find there is people trying to tell you, hey, we're not going to be, you know, always get them confused, toxicly positive. We're not going to act like things are okay. We're going to be positively toxic until you to fucking man up and get over it.

And do something about it. And here's what we're doing about it, money where our mouth is. DJ and I have a thing we're working on. And again, we're not ready to fully launch it or talk about it. That DJ, sorry, that DJ and I have been working on for years, Carmen is now joining us, which is associated with mutual aid and kind of blending that with comedy and entertainment

as best we can. And if you don't know what mutual aid is, I have a very easy way to explain it to people who are new to it. I think most of you right now know what's going on in Minnesota. I think most of you're following what's going on in Minnesota. You're aware of the protests. You're aware of the lawyers. You're aware of the senators.

Some of whom are feckless. Some of whom do seem to be trying to do something. But the Democratic Party seems to be feckless at this point. But you also are aware of, I alluded to it earlier, people who are doing their neighbor's laundry while they hide because ICE is hitting laundry mats. I think you are also all aware of, I hope, people who are bringing their neighbors meals because they're hiding from ICE and ICE is going to the grocery stores. That is the type of action that gets loosely thrown under mutual aid. That is the kind of stuff that DJ and I have been into for a while and Carmen as well and we're trying to bring people who've been doing work like that.

Our buddy Warren, there's an interview with our friend Warren Tidwell on Gravy Baby. You can go listen to it right now where he talks about some of his organizations and how they've helped in storm disasters. When FEMA leaves but people still ain't in their houses yet, who's going to step up? Well, the community. That's mutual aid. It's called mutual aid because it's not charity. You're not doing it to like do charity.

You're doing it because you're a part of a community and one day you're going to need it. And that's the other thing people need to understand. We're all going to need each other going forward for Trump's fifth term. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. I agree. And I'm happy. I'm happy that, yeah, so hit us up.

If you have a mutual aid thing, hit us up. If you know anybody that, you know, that is a, And, well, we'd like to talk to you. We'd like to work with you. You know what I mean? We'd like to platform you. We'd like to let people know what you do, why you do it, and how you help people. And I'll be honest, that's all we want to know.

Yeah, that's it. We don't, you know, it's like we just want the recipe. We don't need the backstory. I'm kidding. You can tell us the backstory. Yeah. The backstory's good. Yeah, back story's great.

I was just trying to be funny. It didn't work. Yeah, I know. It's great. I thought you were. You killed it for me. Damn it. I like a...

You didn't like Mothman scoffacy. And I really... I had that in the hopper for like 12 minutes. I was like, damn, DJ's a real Mothman denier. He scoffs at the Mothman. Mothman, truth or the truth. I'm not denying. What I deny is that it's always been a worse story than Flatwoods.

I've never understood how that, how Mothman got more, got more, got more, credit than the Flatwoods monster because of the Flatwoods monster. Better PR duty of the CIA working for. That's exactly right. That's exactly right. All right. Well, I'm going to let you go. I've got a show with Corey in Athens, Georgia, on February 15th at the tell end of Heathen's homecoming.

I think DJ's going to maybe be in town. I'm going to beg him to do it and he's going to say no. Listen to Gravy Baby and look around you for mutual aid groups and go to one of their meetings. Yeah, just you don't have to start. Everybody wants to know, like, how do I start mutually?

Bro, there's somebody around you who needs help, man. They would love to have your help. You just start helping people around you. You can keep keyboard wariering, and I'm not telling you not to, but like start helping the people around you, you know,

because it's a harrowing thought to think, why is no one stopping this in Minnesota? It's harrowing. I don't know why, but they're not going to. Yes. And you can do something about that. And, you know, I voiced this on here once or twice, maybe more than that. I voiced it on our podcast a lot.

Like the helplessness, anyone with a soul and eyes felt during the whole Gaza conflict, it's not over. I don't know why I said it like that. But when it was in the news more, this feels similar, except that you can do something. Now, it's not what you want. want, a lot of us want to just like vote the right way and then someone with some power do something, but that may not happen. But what you can do is help your neighbors. That's all I'm saying.

Help your neighbors. Yeah, man. All right, DJ. Thanks, buddy. Thank you, bud.