wellRED podcast - Does Papa Roach Have The Only Pro S*icide Song? (Audio issue Fixed...hopefully)

Episode Date: January 9, 2025

    *As you can tell from the title, Trigger warning: we talk about sicide quite a bit in this episode... apologies in advance for those who wont be able to tune in. We totally understand an...d are sorry! *Also sorry for the audio problems on the first go round of this episode... this is the 4th time attempting to fix it and god knows what the problem is cause it continues to look A-Ok on our end. Love y'all" -corey What did we talk about? Aside from the Papa Roach thing I don't rightly remember, but you know who does? Our robot gal! Take it away, robot gal!.... Summary In this conversation, the hosts explore various themes ranging from kitchen injuries and culinary fears to the cultural impact of suicide in music. They share personal anecdotes about their experiences with injuries in the kitchen, discuss the concept of 'butthole knives' as a metaphor for anxiety, and delve into the physical sensations associated with nerve damage. The conversation shifts to the influence of music, particularly rock and country, on mental health and societal perceptions of suicide, highlighting how these themes resonate with their generation. In this conversation, the speakers delve into the complex themes surrounding mental health, suicide, and the cultural implications of humor in discussing these topics. They explore how music reflects mental health struggles, the generational differences in attitudes towards suicide, and the evolution of generational labels. The discussion highlights the importance of humor as a coping mechanism and the cultural shifts that have influenced how these serious topics are perceived and discussed today. In this conversation, the hosts delve into various themes surrounding family dynamics, substance abuse, law enforcement, and the representation of gender in video games. They discuss the complexities of reintegrating a family member post-incarceration, the evolution of substance abuse, and the often fraught relationship between communities and law enforcement. The conversation also touches on the portrayal of women in video games and how it affects player experience, highlighting the disconnect between player expectations and game design. CHECK OUT TRAE ON TOUR: TraeCrowder.com SEE WHAT DREW HAS GOING ON: DrewMorganComedy.com GET BONUS STUFF FROM COREY: WeLoveCorey.com SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS!: Cancel your unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster with Rocket Money. Go to RocketMoney.com/WELLRED today. Head to Squarespace.com for a free trial, and when you’re ready to launch your website, go to https://www.squarespace.com/WELLRED to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain. Eat smart with Factor. Get started at FACTORMEALS.com/wellred50off and use code wellred50off to get 50% off your first box plus free shipping. Download the DraftKings Sportsbook app and use code WELLRED. That’s code WELLRED for new customers to get $200 in bonus bets instantly, when you bet just five bucks.

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Starting point is 00:03:03 slash well read and we thank them for sponsoring this episode of the podcast they're the sure cut his fingers with a potato paler I've done that before you never done that I've done it not be bad it can be bad that made me very cavalier about it yeah buddy I don't know if you guys how you guys respond to pictures of like injuries. I don't want that. Don't hear from me. One of them, one of them's like, oh, that looks like it hurts. The other one, it's wild.
Starting point is 00:03:34 The other one, a little half moon out of the tip of my finger. You cut yourself two separate times with a potato peeler. Same two fingers going real fast. That's where I hold it. I got like a, I mean, you can like a cut on the middle. And then I got this right here. It even took off some of the nail. He went from the top of my finger through my finger and then out through my nail.
Starting point is 00:03:54 Yeah, you can like peel your finger, you know. Yeah, that's the thing. Like a tater. Like a tater. And that really don't hit. Don't have happened. I have also done that once a long time ago and it super didn't hit. One of the things I'm actually like, one of the skills that I could stand to do better at in the kitchen is my like knife skills and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:04:16 And the reason they're not that good is because I'm so frightened to like fucking cut myself that I never, I don't ever have the confidence to do that. you know what I mean like I can like I can I can cut pretty good but eventually I get so scared that I'm gonna cut myself that I'm like I'll just take my time I'm not on a fucking TV show here I was going fast because I'm an idiot yeah well it has to go fast
Starting point is 00:04:39 you're fucked with a mandolin not the instrument but the kitchen device yeah and I've about had some accidents there because I got a little bit too carried away they'll just slice the tip of your finger right off just probably I'll hit for people because it wouldn't hit for me. Yeah, I was going to say,
Starting point is 00:04:55 even people who are interested in kitchen talk are like, yeah, but this is giving me a butthole knives. Not cutting off your fingers, yeah. Hey, that's, I'm glad you brought that up, butthole knives. Because. From you. Yeah, okay, that's,
Starting point is 00:05:07 okay, that checks out. But I brought it up because Andy won't even talk to me about my finger and says it makes my butthole hurts. Okay. So, like, but apparently that's like a general, I guess something about our water or like the,
Starting point is 00:05:20 the, antibiotics that we were given as kids because like I hope if you talk to any old people about butthole knives they're like what are you talking about and I'm like you know when something like scares you or something gives you the ick and you it feels like a knife's going up your butt hole okay see I don't have
Starting point is 00:05:35 I remember having this conversation before I mean I guess it's just because I'm a pap all at heart but I don't have a fucking clue what you're talking about my anxiety thing relating what Andy said through the lens of chowness I I feel like tension in my lower gut which I could see that going.
Starting point is 00:05:52 I feel it in my gut when that happens. Okay, so for me, Trey, it's like literally right above my dick. It's like the very bottom of my ass. Yeah, underneath your belly button kind of. Right my asshole. I could see that. Couldn't you see that? Connecting to your butt hole?
Starting point is 00:06:07 Yeah. The belly hole's connected to the butt hole. No. Yeah, maybe. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know, but I don't, it, I mean, I know I get, there's also people say it's like, she would make you butt puck her. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:06:21 It's like, people clinch their assholes when something like that happened. It was like, ugh. You know, and you clench your butt. My nerves are wrong. I don't feel a fucking knife down there when that happened. That is like, okay. But that, I mean, that's like hardcore. That's like from the movie seven, you know?
Starting point is 00:06:41 Yeah. Well, it's more like, I wouldn't say a knife because that would insinuate that there was a blade on one. It's more like the, you know, the thing you used to sharpen your knives. It's like if that thing was going up. up your butt. Oh, yeah. You know, but still like a metal thing, but not like it's not cutting the orifices of my butt, but it just feels like something sharp is going up my butt happens when I get scared. And sometimes it just like, it's a, I think it's relative to a gas pain, but it's butthole knives. And my mom and dad are both like, what are you talking about? And all these
Starting point is 00:07:08 old people and me and my sister gets them. She gets butthole knives. Like we all know. And so I don't know, you know, I don't know what it is. Um, by be anxiety. Like me and my sister both have it and I know Andy B. got it. You know, it might be an anxiety thing. And also, you know, it skips a generation. Maybe. Or baldness. Like, you know, my nerves are fucked up. When I, when I touch
Starting point is 00:07:29 my hand right here, I feel it in my throat. Like, it feels like I'm rubbing my finger on my throat. Well, okay, let me say this. Okay, let me say this. I got this massage miss lady. Andy got me for like a gift for my birthday, I think. This lady did like TMJ massage. And I don't have TMJ, but I've always got tight jaws.
Starting point is 00:07:52 And I'm always looking for someone that will massage above my neck, whether it's my jaw or my head. And a lot of masseuses don't fuck with that or whatever for whatever reason. So she found this lady that did a TMGA thing. And I went there and the lady had a lot of different expertise, right? She did a lot of different types of massage. So I was telling her about it. And I was like, I don't really have TMJ. I just got this tight.
Starting point is 00:08:09 She goes, I'm going to try this thing. I'm getting there. I promise. In your neck, I don't remember what she called the technique. It was probably like half woo-woo, right? Like not rakey, but a step below. Yep. So we sit down, we relax. She like puts her hands on my chest and stuff. And then she's like, rubbing up through here. And she said, this is the vagus nerve. And she starts working it. And then she says, you're going to feel it roll. She hit the, she didn't even have the word done. And this wave went down my body through my left leg, back up through my face. All this relaxed. I started crying. In a hidden way?
Starting point is 00:08:47 Yes. But it was crazy because the next thing I know, she's talking to me while she's touching my right arm. In my head, I was like, how the hell is she reaching that far? I opened my eyes. She was not touching my neck anymore, but I thought she was. Yeah. Because she was touching me elsewhere, and it was like connected.
Starting point is 00:09:09 Yeah. So I know that that's not, you know, just Corey being, I mean, it might be like Taco Bell's palsy or something. I got some nerve damage for sure. Sure. But it happens is what I'm saying. Yeah. I got some nurse damage for sure because I've noticed, like, as I get older, like, my fingers just be going numb every now and then. Like when I try to tie, like, you know, like if I'm trying to do something that requires an extreme amount of dexterity, like Amber's like, hey, take my necklace off or whatever, my fingers would just be locking up. Like that, like, I would be the worst surgeon ever for that reason around.
Starting point is 00:09:41 This already doesn't hurt and it's numb. Your finger? Both of them. Yeah. Yeah. See, well. It's like bad wounds. Yeah, something's wrong with us. Ray, what's wrong with you? Nothing. It's January 6th.
Starting point is 00:09:56 I'm having a great day. Favorite holiday? Yeah. Favorite holidays? We got my eagle flag sharing on. Day for all patriots. We should change Patriots Day to January 6th, I think. Why not?
Starting point is 00:10:09 No, I would tell you what I was thinking about earlier. You know how I feel like it's like a cultural hallmark of our, or at the very least, it's like a stereotype of, our generation that we real cavalier about suicide. You know, yeah. How much responsibility do you think Papa Roach bears for that? So much. For so much.
Starting point is 00:10:32 Because I don't know where they got off. Making an absolute chopping banger about suicide when we were all in our formative years. But that's exactly what they did. And that song was on the playlist of my Peloton ride earlier. and, of course, that's one of those, like, that's not one that, like, you hear it again. You're like, God, damn, I forgot about this song. It's been so long. That one, like, you don't ever forget that.
Starting point is 00:10:56 That one sticks around. Yeah. So don't get me wrong. It's not like it ever really left. But still, it came on this one. I was like, God damn, the song fucking goes so hard. And then it's, it's just completely about suicide. Well, in my life tonight, chances are dynamite.
Starting point is 00:11:13 Dynamite. Dynamite. Dynamite. But he's like, dynamite. Dude, dynamite. That I might. No, it's dynamite. Right?
Starting point is 00:11:22 It is dynamite. Yeah. Chances are, dynamite. Jimmy Walther. I think it's a star that I might. Yeah. Kill myself. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:29 I think, I hope you're right. I want you to know that I hope you're right so bad. No, it's dynamite, bro. So one of you look it up. Here's my quick, here's my quick story, Papa Roach. There was this kid, Tyler. He was like. a goth type kid.
Starting point is 00:11:47 He transferred into our school in high school. We wore like a long coat, you know, a trench coat, got suspended for that. One day I was walking by him, and he goes,
Starting point is 00:11:54 hey, it's Tom Green. And I just started going, my bum is on the locker. My bum is on the locker. He was like, I can't believe you know who that is. I was like,
Starting point is 00:12:02 well, you know, he's Tom Green, dude. He's on MTV. And he's like, well, I thought you were a jock. Anyway,
Starting point is 00:12:08 next time we hung out, we were at a dance together. And he's like, you don't know this song. And he had told him to play it. And of course I knew every fucking word because again, apparently he thought jocks didn't watch him TV. And he killed himself. So that was the moral of that story.
Starting point is 00:12:22 Oh, yeah. Corey. Yeah. Drew is right. It is chances are that I might. That, okay, that makes it. It makes it way more sense. But like, that makes it less funny for sure, which makes it hit not as hard for me.
Starting point is 00:12:35 It's hilarious. Both of us all the wrong gang. Well, I've always thought. You guys dare me? You guys dare me? It's because it's such a funny. was thinking earlier today I was listened to it and I was like, God, that's such a funny lyric, you know,
Starting point is 00:12:48 well, in my life tonight, chances are dynamite. Like, it's just such a, like you said, it's like dynamite. Dynamite's just a funny way to. Me too. I've always thought this. It makes so much sense that Drew knew the true words to the kill yourself song.
Starting point is 00:13:02 Like, we've been full, but he had, by the way, this was my first thought when you brought that up because that was like, that was a huge song that we used to all sing. Like, I'm pretty sure we sang it in like,
Starting point is 00:13:13 our, one of our music classes in middle school was literally just you went up and sang karaoke while the PE teacher sat there and played Duck Hunter on his computer, you know? And we would sing that shit and nobody cared. And it'd be on in the car. And my mom was like fairly vigilant. We went to church. She was fair. They were fairly vigilant about certain things, you know.
Starting point is 00:13:34 That song never came up. This one's saying is like, this is how little mental health anyone gave a fuck. Like that song was on everybody's like, eh, what are you going to do? you know what I mean? Like, it wasn't even a concern. Like, if they had said one... I don't let the kids have songs about sex, they might fuck. But if they kill themselves, that's less kids, not more.
Starting point is 00:13:53 That's fine. Like, if he just said the word booty sweat in that song, it would have been instantly gone. But because it was just about killing yourself, it was like, ah, these rock and roll stars. But I did, I was thinking, like, I'm trying to look it up right now. It's not like...
Starting point is 00:14:10 I know my. There haven't been... Oh my God, I'm going to get put on a fucking list or get contacted by it. It's a song. Are you just Googling dynamite? No, I'm Googling like suicide stuff. He needs suicide. And I'm getting Google is giving me the, here's, you know, life means something.
Starting point is 00:14:27 Here's a call you can make that type of shit. Yeah, but it's AI. So it's whatever Reddit says to say. But like, yeah, there's. Do a back clip. It doesn't. Fucking cool yourself. Like the MASH theme song, right, was a, the TV show?
Starting point is 00:14:42 Yeah, Matt, which was the biggest TV show of all time. Yeah, ever, right. It's called suicide is painless, right? Yeah. And it's like, you know, suicide is painless. It brings on many changes. There's also what's the- Don't fear the Reaper suicide?
Starting point is 00:14:59 I don't know. I think that's more just like welcome death as a friend. Yeah, which is just badass, you know. It is bad ass. Yeah, yeah. That one feels different to me. Maybe I'm wrong, but I feel like Papa Roach is kind of badass. While you're looking for this,
Starting point is 00:15:13 my own, our Baroach story is, they went, they're like trying to come back, you know, and they were on TikTok or whatever. It was like, he said something like,
Starting point is 00:15:22 it was him and the video of the guy, and the song was playing. I don't, he said something like, do you remember where you were the last time you heard this song? And I had it cut to me. I'm over the phone
Starting point is 00:15:34 with a rolled up dollar bill pretending to snort pill. And I went viral and then my account got suspended for two. weeks on TikTok. I bet he's got grand roaches now. That's true. Yeah, probably.
Starting point is 00:15:50 Anyway, I just was thinking there was another, I was thinking there's been like suicide songs and stuff, I'm sure. Oh, yeah. But I bet most of them didn't like go that hard. No. They're like, there's, that was like a positive uplifting suicide song.
Starting point is 00:16:04 It was just, it was hard. You know, a head by a lot about killing yourself, you know. But I don't know. It's just a funny hallmark of our, of our formative years. Dude, Lincoln Park definitely had a suicide song. I think all theirs were like, oh, no, he just committed suicide. He just did.
Starting point is 00:16:25 And then they got somebody from Mossad to be their lead singer or some shit. They have one that's very, well, so, you know, as maybe the trashiest among us, of course, I fuck with Lincoln Park. You know, pretty hard. They, he, yes, he came a long time. Chester, Bennington. suffered with depression for a long time, finally killed himself. They hired a replacement about a year ago, something like that, and she turns out to be a hardcore Scientologist.
Starting point is 00:16:49 And they don't, as part of their whole thing, is that they don't believe in mental health or psychology or none of that shit. So it's like an insult. Weird look. Insult to his memory, which I agree with. But anyway. Also, I don't want to hear a woman saying those songs. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:02 Least of my concerns. I hear you, and I love Chester. It's close. Yeah, the way he screams, you could see a woman screaming. They love to scream. Did you see that Soundgarden got in? It's always sad because of like how it is outside or something. Did you see Soundgarden got a new gal?
Starting point is 00:17:21 No. I only know that. And I only know this because I've never heard them sing. I'm certain it's great because honestly there's not many situations where if you insert a black lady in music, it's going to be worse. Yeah, it's going to be like it'll probably, I mean, you can't be better than Chris Cornell, but like, hey, he's going to. got a one of one voice, absolutely get a black woman. But the only reason I know this is because they did a concert the other day. She kind of a bigger gal.
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Starting point is 00:18:09 Because, like, you know, I don't, crowd surfing's probably not as big a deal as it used to be with COVID and everything. A lot of women won't do it because they don't want to get groped. Groked, right. Well, yeah, no, she hit the flow. She will, you got any idea how many subscriptions you've got out there? I mean, you've long since forgot about. Maybe some of you paying twice for didn't even realize it.
Starting point is 00:18:31 It happens to me all the time. I just realized the other day I've been paying like $65 a year for this app that lets me put Joe's face on a monkey's body. So you got a lot of use out of that. You know, you get drunk. You get these apps. You make a picture of your buddy. And, you know, you put like your friend into a meme of a fat girl falling down or whatever you do with it.
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Starting point is 00:23:57 She hit the floor back to Lincoln Park. I was thinking of the Lincoln Park. So hit the floor. Y'all know that one? Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, you said they surely have suicide songs. I'm sure they do.
Starting point is 00:24:10 I think their biggest suicide song that I can think of is it. One step closer. Is it different? Yeah, is that one step closer to the edge and I'm about to break? I just assume that was I'm going to. Yeah, but then the whole bridge that song, shut up what I'm talking to you. That song went so hard for me. Yeah, dude.
Starting point is 00:24:29 Shut up. And dude, when they did. it with Jay-Z, my God. Anyway, I'm about to fucking snap and fuck shit up as opposed to kill myself.
Starting point is 00:24:40 But anyway, but the one about this definitely, I think killing, about killing yourself is called One More Light. But the point of that song or whatever is,
Starting point is 00:24:50 like the chorus goes like, who cares if one more light goes out in the sky of a million stars, who cares when someone's time runs out, all this stuff. And then at the end of the course, it goes,
Starting point is 00:25:01 who cares if one more light goes out. And then he pauses and goes, well, I do. You know, so it's, uh, it's gay like this. Gay about suicide. Yeah. It's like it's, you know, saying, hey, don't do it type thing. That's what I'm saying. That's what makes last resort like different is like,
Starting point is 00:25:16 you know, there's also Adam's song. Adam song's awesome song by Blake 182 makes me cry, bro. That song rules, but it's like, it's sad. It's so sad based on a true story. Most songs about suicide are sad for fucking, what's the kid rock, fucking uh Cheryl Crow that's by drinking
Starting point is 00:25:35 drinking herself to death oh my God speaking of which she put the bottle through my head and pulled the trick yeah that's Brad Paisley and Cheryl Crow right no not Cheryl Crowe carry underwood
Starting point is 00:25:46 I think it's Allison Krauss boys god damn is there are there two different songs here like Whiskey Lullaby the kid rock one is just about cheating and you put your turn your picture around so you can cheat on the person
Starting point is 00:25:59 Whiskey Lullaby about it is about a dude. But that kid rock song is with Cheryl Crowe, isn't it? Yes. Yes. But this one's without Lerick. Braddellon. Where he alludes to ending it all.
Starting point is 00:26:10 It's with Allison Krauss. And yeah, they drink themselves to death because the relationship went sour. That bottle to his head and pulled the trigger. Yeah. It's a good song.
Starting point is 00:26:21 It is Allison Krauss and Brad Paisley. Yeah, it is a good song. Yeah. So, anyway, drinking yourself to death is not. Does that really count of suicide? I mean, I guess it's. Well, we're way in on that, you know, some people just drink themselves to death because they just hit real hard for torn something here.
Starting point is 00:26:36 There are some psychologists that, yeah, that used the term like prolonged or slow suicide or whatever for people who like, they're not ever going to actually do one complete act, but they're suicidal in the sense of they don't care. They want to die and they'll just live their life accordingly. You know what I mean? Like they, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, so like. Right. I don't trust anybody who ain't done that for at least once. Because like some of those like overdoses or whatever,
Starting point is 00:27:06 I could say like, I don't know if they actually meant that night to die. I just think that they be taking pills a lot because they don't care if they die and that night maybe they took too many. You know what I mean? Right. There's,
Starting point is 00:27:20 uh, y'all ever heard Clout Cobain by Denzel Curry? No, I've never heard any of them words. That is a sick title for a song. Yeah. You don't know who Denzel Curry is? I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:27:31 He's a rapper. Maybe I have, maybe I do. I'll get all my rap stuff from y'all. So if y'all hadn't told me about him, then I don't. Doesn't he also have a, you know, that's, uh, no, mind. Anyway, I think it's kind of suicide, but he also, so it's like, it's a rap song and he goes, I just want to feel myself. You want me to kill myself.
Starting point is 00:27:51 Man, I've been on my own, Lord, I really need some help. I just want to feel myself. You want me to kill myself. Man, it's been so damn long. Dealing with the things I feel. felt but then in the chorus he he references suicide but uh like the doors that go up on a on a lambo or whatever do you know what I'm sorry yes he switches he says suicidal doors call it kirk Cobain suwo leather seeds like a bloody stain you know never heard that song it's a good time
Starting point is 00:28:20 I have it's pretty sweet anyway so I love the topic you've picked today and by the way you have definitely still proven through this discussion that like yeah I think that Papa Roach has the only hard pro suicide song that's what i'm saying i'm trying to think of every suicide song i can think of that comes to my and it's like i got the only one that like fucking fires you the fuck up like yeah they got the only one that works it keeps you from doing it dude yeah it's uh because even if it made you high like fuck yeah i'm gonna do it you'd feel so good you'd be like i can't yet song's not over play uh yeah i'm serious they're gonna send oh that's funny that this just came up 800 pound jesus uh you ever heard that song by
Starting point is 00:29:02 Paul Thorne it's not it's not like pump you up but it is definitely it's a really funny song about suicide kind of that in what way
Starting point is 00:29:13 what do you mean I don't remember I just I just remember that it's kind of a funny song about suicide but still it doesn't go hard I'm certain now that it's not funny
Starting point is 00:29:25 it's kind of funny yeah I will by the way I'm certain that you're missed like you were on pills and you like not because That would be the funniest outcome here. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:29:34 I don't remember it, but it's hilarious. Hold on. Hold on. Regardless if the lyrical content is funny, what I mean is it's at least an example of that third-eye blind song where it's like the melody is all upbeat and stuff, but the lyrics are, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:29:46 Like, it's not a sad seeming song. Like, it's in a major fucking chord and it's meant to be light. You know what I mean? Because like a lot of songs, a lot of Elliot Smith's shit that's suicide is... I thought of another song that's a bad. It's not about the person.
Starting point is 00:30:03 Far behind by Candlebox is about a suicide. Yeah, it is. That song fucking goes hard. It goes. It's... Candidate for suicide by Hank three. Do you think waiting around... It is also sad.
Starting point is 00:30:16 That song goes hard, but it's like sad too, where it's like, last resort don't make anybody sad. No, my, nobody sad. No, but no one's like actually on the verge of suicide. I don't think, like, in a bathtub with a razor listening to Popper Roe. Faint to Black. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:30:33 Yeah. Metallica. I mean, that's... Is it about suicide or just done? It says on this Wikipedia list that it's about suicide. Hmm. And far behind is another one like Adam's song where it's about the suicide of a friend. Right.
Starting point is 00:30:48 Like, last resort is about killing yourself. Right. Far behind an Adam song is about knowing someone who killed themselves. So that's obviously, that's, you know, it's pretty different. Stan? Uh, well, I mean, that's a... I mean, that's a whole other thing. There's one in there.
Starting point is 00:31:02 Yeah, but that's about a lot more than just, you know, he killed his pregnant old lady and himself. That's true. A lot of shit. Yeah. Still counts. It goes, though. That's a murder suicide song.
Starting point is 00:31:15 Sure. Another band. I think that's a ballad. Sure. Another murder suicide raps on the hit real hard, but not, it wasn't a hit. It's wild that Stan was a hit, but undying love by Nause is a real hit. Yeah, there you go. song from back in the back in the day but but like we just be joking again our generation and
Starting point is 00:31:38 stuff i'm sure the younger kids probably do too they'll i don't think uh joking about suicide whatever but we started that though i think yeah that's us we saw 9-11 and we were like fuck it everything's on the board jeremy by pearl jam yeah but again that's song the song hits real hard but it's like a bummer you know yeah that's true uh yeah we're We're not going to find one. Last resort stands alone. Here's how cavalier about it we are. When you said cavalier, I just started thinking about death by horses,
Starting point is 00:32:07 like trying to kill yourself suicide. Stretching it out where you get quartered. Yeah. But you do it yourself. What's the funny, or, can you only, anybody commit suicide? No, funny. It's like suicide memes is what I was thinking,
Starting point is 00:32:21 because the one of that I thought of you, have you seen the, I'm sure you've seen the one, the dude with the, it's like, it's a guy who keep, I think he's like, an Arab guy or a black guy or something, but he keeps acting like he's going, I haven't
Starting point is 00:32:33 seen it in a while. It's not that I can't tell those apart, but he, uh, he's like got a big smile on his face and everything and he's like acting like he's going to drink bleach and then act like he's going to jump off a balcony and act like he's going to hang himself and all that. Have you ever seen that one you know what you talking about? It's fucking hilarious. It gets me every time. I saw one that not long ago that was, it was a stitch, you know, where like there, it was a video and then somebody did a reaction to the video or whatever. There was this woman in her car on some, sanctimonious mental health rant as I've gone on many of times talking about how there needs to be
Starting point is 00:33:05 a fast acting. She's like, why isn't there a fast acting pill for depression, a way to get rid of depression really quick? And then it cuts to this girl who's standing in front of a moving train, just going, uh, eh, eh, yeah, you know. And also I call that ecstasy, I think, or in DMA, you know, they got those. They do definitely have those. And I, I guess we- bunch of Xanax, which I understand is what the train joke was. I mean, that's what I used to be doing. Yeah. Do you think we're so
Starting point is 00:33:34 maybe like if our generation obviously didn't go like with me, us specifically, we saw a bunch of motherfuckers die from the opioid crisis and we saw a lot of kids die young and shit because of all this. Like do you think that's why it is or it's just like we grew up
Starting point is 00:33:51 on the internet? Not we didn't grow up on the internet but because we got the internet the first of any generation. it was just meant to be. I think it's that. I think that dark jokes, it's like one of those things where they don't spread as much. Like,
Starting point is 00:34:06 I think a lot of people would have found suicide funny in the 70s, but it was like, well, we can only joke about it with a certain people. And the internet made everybody go, wait a minute. We all like it? We all think this is hilarious? You kind of want to do it?
Starting point is 00:34:20 Yeah. Yeah, that's another one too, is that all of us are like, all of us are like, I can joke about it because I might do it. You know what I mean? We feel very close to it. Yep.
Starting point is 00:34:32 Maybe we're sadder, though. We're definitely sadder. We're definitely sadder. I think it seems like every generation is sad. They're more apathetic, wouldn't you say? Like now. I don't know that when they were teens. But they created all the slacker shit, slacker culture and grunge and all that when they were at that age when they were young.
Starting point is 00:34:52 They're also doing heroin. Yes. I guess that's what I was thinking about. But it's more, it feels more. nihilistic cynical, apathetic type to be sad. Yeah, to be sad. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:35:02 I think it's like absurdism almost. Yeah. Like, well, it's the funniest thing I could do. We might be the first generation to care. That's our problem. It's definitely been a problem, yeah. It's definitely my problem. It's definitely what's been holding me back
Starting point is 00:35:17 and making me want to commit suicide. I mean, I think it's like backed up by data and shit at this point. Especially if you want to categorize caring as many like, on a political scale or something, caring about other types of people and that type of thing, i. being a progressive. I mean,
Starting point is 00:35:33 we're also seeing a bunch of stuff that said that we're the, our generation is, is literally the most whatever progressive. Including Jin Z, I think. Oh yeah, no, like by a lot. Yeah, because the pendulum swung back on. Well, see, used to, it went in that one direct, used to it trended that way gradually over time.
Starting point is 00:35:50 Every generation was more progressive than the one before it. Politically, the pencelsom. And the pendulum and swam back and forth, that's true. But generationally, that was always the cat. Every generation was more progressive relative to their time than the one that came before. But it was slow. Until us and Gen Z. Right.
Starting point is 00:36:08 We are more progressive than they are. But I think that the reason that it swung back is because it was always like a trickling thing, like a little bit, a little bit, a little bit. And then our generation like leaps and far. And then, yeah. And Gene Z was like, y'all are gay. Yeah, right. Well, yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:22 For sure. And also, Gen Z listens to their. boomer pap halls talk about how we're gay and they're like they are gay you know what i mean like they're raising them yeah that's true that's true and that's another thing too we are like and by the way not putting us up on some sort of pedestal like we just decided to do this it was a cultural thing i guess but like we're definitely the first generation of parents of dads to actually be like we're going to be in this just like the mom and be like super caring and stuff we did not raise gen z though Gen Z is Gen X's kids.
Starting point is 00:36:56 Yeah, for sure. We're raising Gen Alpha. So whatever's going on with Gen Z, that ain't on us. We're like our older uncles or whatever. Presidents. Like, we're not their parents. How upset do you think the beta kids are going to be with the name beta? They just throw that on them.
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Starting point is 00:42:02 bets expire 168 hours after issuance for additional terms and responsible gaming resources. See dkNG.co slash audio. Cho, you was this close to absolutely smashing that disclaimer at the end. Did I fucking heard? Now, you didn't fit. You just slipped on the word responsible. I don't know. You like fumbled the word. Oh.
Starting point is 00:42:26 I'm saying I was following along with you and like all them numbers and letters and all that bullshit. Yeah. And you were like, I was like, God, he's about to fuck. I just kept waiting on you to fuck it up. And I was getting progressively more excited as you continued to not fuck it up. And then at the very end. I was like, he's going to make it.
Starting point is 00:42:43 And then at the very end, you're like responsible. I literally got all the hard ones out. Yeah. Is that Gen Alpha is over? Yeah, the new ones are. Y'all's Babes is Jim Beta? No, Baines Alpha because he was born two years ago. It just started.
Starting point is 00:42:57 How do you even make the decision at a point when they're all still? Like, when do you say like, okay, Jen Alpha's over now? Well, I mean, my mom. It's supposed to be divided by events, not just numbers. I mean, my mother-in-law is like one year away from being a boomer. she's technically Gen X. But that's events. That's like an event.
Starting point is 00:43:16 The boomers were the boom and explosion post-war, and then the few people born after that for a few years who had the similar cultural experience. It's supposed to be cultural experience. That's why I always say old millennials like myself who were raised rural, I think we're closer to Gen X. Agreed. Because being rural, we had a similar experience.
Starting point is 00:43:35 I feel like I had a similar experience to my brother. Couldn't agree more. And also I thought that they were, and I knew this was like an unofficial term, but like during COVID or whatever, I thought they were calling all them baby's Zoomers because of, you know, like I guess we was all on Zoom and shit.
Starting point is 00:43:49 Like our whole lives were on Zoom and stuff. No, I think that's what it means is Zoomer. Well, I think it's just, I think Gen Z became the name of their generation. Don't ask me how that happened, but it became Gen Z and then Boomer and then Gen Z Zoom Zoom. I think that's all that was.
Starting point is 00:44:09 But yeah, it doesn't seem like we should have had another one. since then, like that should still be the ones. Gen Z? You know, like, Gen Alpha shouldn't. It's funny because apparently my sons are on, my sons are either the very oldest Gen Alpha kids or the very youngest Gen Z kids, depending on which thing you look at.
Starting point is 00:44:34 And it's funny because we were talking about that. So they us. And Bishop goes, well, we're, none of us are like on the border. I'm pretty sure the borderline of millennial in Gen X is like 81. It feels like it though culturally, I guess, what Drew said. I'm pretty close to being an old millennial, though. I think I'm considering an old millennials, but we're not, I'm talking about the dividing line between the two. No, I'm not that, but I'm three or four years from that.
Starting point is 00:45:01 I think my category is elder millennial. Yeah, I think we're all elder millennials. Yeah. But I think it's 80 to 84. So, I mean, what are me and show? them just regular regular assy millennials. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:12 And in their younger millennials. 80 to 84. Okay. Anyway. Anyway, when we were talking about that, about how they're either Gen Z or Gen Alpha, they're on the border between two generations or whatever. Bishop said,
Starting point is 00:45:26 Bishop said, well, I really hope it's Gen Z because I'm not loving what I'm seeing out of these Gen Alpha kids. He's 12. He's already over there bullshit. Yeah. He's 13 talking about nine-year-olds being stupid.
Starting point is 00:45:41 shit. That's fucking hilarious. Yeah. I love that. But anyway, yeah, I don't, I don't know. But yeah, beta,
Starting point is 00:45:50 well, that's what, you know, they've kept it. It's like there was, I wonder how they went from boomer. It's because they had the greatest generation. You know,
Starting point is 00:45:58 I mean, I get, yeah, but anyway, fucking, I don't know how they got away with that. But they went baby, and baby boomers like Drew said,
Starting point is 00:46:05 that's the, the, there's, the boom. It was a thing. It was a thing. It was a thing that happened. Right.
Starting point is 00:46:11 But then, like, then it went Gen X and then we would have been Gen Y, right? Yeah. But we weren't because of the millennium. Right. So they were like millennials, which makes sense. But then they just went back to Z, right? Gen Z, then they just went back to Z and A and now B. They're just going like alpha numerically.
Starting point is 00:46:36 But Y is 1,000? No. Y2K? Why means year. No, no, no. K is the thousand. K is the thousand? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:45 What's the Y? Year? Year. Year 2000. Okay. Yeah. And in Roman numerals, in Roman numerals, M is a thousand. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:55 So, Millennium. But anyway, but yeah, but I'm saying other than us, which you understand the reason why they went with millennial for us because of the new millennium. Other than us, the past few have just been just X, X, Y, Z, A, B. all they're doing. There's no, there's nothing special to it. Yeah, that is weird. Yeah. Well, it's just like us to demand to be special. By the way, elder millennial is 80 to 85.
Starting point is 00:47:22 Okay, well, I'm still not in that. Katie's old asses in that, so. I just realized, I think by that, I'm 99% sure if I'm doing my math right, then my brother is technically a millennial. By like four months. When was he born? Four months, because he's born at the very beginning of April. He also gets out of prison.
Starting point is 00:47:40 prison soon so really go i mean that makes sense we've known each other for so long now but when you say soon what do you a whole sentence what you mean about february this this year like super specific but yeah real soon damn well how are you feeling about that it's odd you know i mean i don't want him to stand there forever but i'm nervous yeah like i'm happy for him but i'm very nervous sure he deserved to be in there forever and i I think he deserves to get out, but I'm very nervous. You said you don't think you should be in there forever, and he deserves to get out, but you're very nervous. You mean like acclimating back to society or the family or all that?
Starting point is 00:48:26 All that. I'm mostly nervous for my mom and his children and his ex-wife. I'm nervous for him, some, I guess. I mean, there's a part of me he's like, well, fuck him, like, get it together or not. Yeah, but that's a big ask. I mean, that's especially considering when he went in and what he said. coming out to. Like, it's a fucking different game.
Starting point is 00:48:44 That's true, but he's not, he's never been, you know, like, my brother's as smart as I am and he worked for the railroad because he never had any interest. Like, he was a paramedic for a little while. That was the only kind of thing where he, like, felt like using his, I don't know what I'm trying to say, but even if he had never been in, the computer stuff would have barely affected him. He might get into online gambling. I could see that.
Starting point is 00:49:10 Right. But other than that, he was always Woods, you know. I mean, we had cell phones and, you know, like smartphones. I'm pretty sure when he went in and he didn't give a fuck. Right. Yeah, but they weren't like when he went in, they weren't as necessary. It feels like they're necessary now. Like used to it was like a choice you made.
Starting point is 00:49:31 And now it's like if you don't have it, you're like behind somehow. You need a cell phone. I don't know if you need a smartphone. I mean, he'll get into YouTube. He'll just be my dad. He'll be watching 100. videos on YouTube and then trying to tell me that fucking the reason the bees are dying is because of the trans community. If you don't mind me asking.
Starting point is 00:49:47 He's going to be stupid about it. I was going to say, like, if you don't mind me asking, like, what line of work you think he's going to, you know, jump into or whatever? I mean, that's part of like my nervousness, dude. We begged him, just as one example, we begged him. I didn't, but mom did, to get a degree. H-back while he was in there. And he just didn't. I mean, he's going to be a grunt.
Starting point is 00:50:10 If he can. Right. I don't know. I mean, this is part of the nerves. You know, there's one thing he used to be good at, you know what I mean? A couple of them.
Starting point is 00:50:19 Yeah. That's still very available. So that's part of why I'm nervous. If anyone's having a hard time reading through the lines, he can make meth and sell pills. Yeah. Mess back. He waited that out.
Starting point is 00:50:33 That's good. Right. Oh, it's back. Yeah, mess back. Not that it ever went anywhere. You know what I'm saying? Mostly with the gays, am I right? I am.
Starting point is 00:50:42 Yeah. That is funny how, like, meth now is like, it's jumped up a couple classes. Like, if you make it correctly, my understanding is it's still very dangerous, but, like, the stuff we saw growing up was because they were making it with, like, battery acid and stuff. So people were snorting along with a very hard on your drug. Like, imagine the hardest you ever partied, like, booze, cocaine. Imagine also that night you drink battery acid. Right.
Starting point is 00:51:09 I remember one time when we were in high school and football, I mean, meth was, pills were the new thing. Meth had been around. This dude came to speak to the football team about meth or whatever. No dude. And he's talking about like just telling you all the dangerous stuff that's in it to try to make you not want to do it. And he starts listing off all this, how you make meth.
Starting point is 00:51:31 And my goddamn buddy Bubba is over here at the end. He goes, you forgot red phosphorus. And he goes, you're right. I did forget red phosphorus. It was fucking hilarious. This is not exactly the same thing, but you just made me think of this. When I was in high school once, I probably told this story before, but it's definitely been a really long time if I have.
Starting point is 00:51:51 When I was in high school, they brought cops in. I'm trying to think of what the reason was. Like, I can't remember if something had happened. But they called everybody in the auditorium, and they brought like local cops in there to... Was it that one of the sheriff's daughter's... was dating one of your football players. No.
Starting point is 00:52:10 I think it was like the dangers of drinking and driving or something like that, like that type of thing. Like, listen, we've been hearing reports. Y'all need to get it together type of shit. And I, and toward the end of it, they asked if anybody had any questions, and I raised my hand.
Starting point is 00:52:29 They were like, yeah, right there. And I was like, hey, so is it true that, like, if y'all pull me over, and asked to like open my trunk or my glove compartment or something like that like I don't have to do that and they were like well yeah technically yeah yes yes that is true we are supposed to have a warrant to be able to do that and then immediately like five or six of the reddest ass motherfuckers it's good like their hands with it they're like hold on one minute what are you telling me are you serious
Starting point is 00:53:07 And it's like devolved. Derailed the whole thing. Deeriled it bad. Like bad. Like it got real out of control. Like they complete like it just everybody's like talking over each other back and forth. The principal had to like step in and all this shit or whatever.
Starting point is 00:53:24 It was it was it was really funny. But yeah, they didn't, you know, because of course nobody knew that shit. And of course they were abusing it all the time. Yeah. You know. I mean, they pretty much just do whatever they want and it really don't matter. Also, this was back in the days when, you know, a group of redneck children would hate the cops, which was a nice bog on era. Especially in Salinas, I mean, I know we talked about this a ton.
Starting point is 00:53:52 I'm sure it was that way everywhere. But, dude, in Salina in particular, because we were really overly policed because there was this guy who actually was like a real close friend of my grandpa. But still, none of this hits for me. but he was a he was a Tennessee State Trooper Tennessee Highway Patrolman pretty like high up in the Tennessee Highway Patrol but was from Salina and so he managed to get a like
Starting point is 00:54:19 whatever they're called an outpost or a station or whatever of the state troopers put in Salina which is absurd. So stupid. We even got fucking highways right. There's no reason for there to be a state trooper fucking station in Salina but then on top of that
Starting point is 00:54:37 the local police presence was like we have way more cops than we ever needed and couldn't keep the school open because the county was so poor but what fucking had two times that's where I'm at right now by the way two times as many cops as we ever needed
Starting point is 00:54:52 so we were way way over policed in Salina and they took a lot they would get bored they just fucked with teenagers a lot right and of course you know a lot of teenagers were drag racing and selling pills and fucking But you don't need a bunch of cops to get them to stop doing it.
Starting point is 00:55:09 Right. But like they were just, they fucked with us all the time. There wasn't nothing else to do in Salina, but right around town and shit. And there was always some cop fucking with you for some. Like every, just everybody hated the goddamn cops in Solano. When I was growing up there like universally.
Starting point is 00:55:24 And it's just so, you know, I've told this story before. It's so wild to me that all those same dudes now or those guys that I grew up with, their kids who are now driving got like blue line Punisher stickers. on the back of their trucks or whatever. Is it still like heavy cop, you know, there?
Starting point is 00:55:40 Like, are those kids being fucked with? That I don't know because, you know, I hardly ever go back and I'm not out and about when I am. I'm not sure if it's still like that or not, but it used to be. I don't know about the kids here, but I've been pulled over five times. We got a lot.
Starting point is 00:55:57 Since I moved back in April. Dude. And most of the, I'd finally switch my tags over, and that seems to have helped a little. I think a lot of it was that I had California plates. I'm not kidding. There are 12 cops caught cop cars in this county between here in 2009,
Starting point is 00:56:17 where I drive to go to Walmart. It's about a 10-minute drive. I see them almost every time, usually more than one. It's either sheriff or police. This is one of the smallest counties in the state. It is, I mean, Brian talks about it. Brian works here, but lives down in Morgan County. He's like, dude, I don't, somebody called somebody or something.
Starting point is 00:56:38 There's no way they should. It's like what you just said, Trey. It's something like that. But people don't seem to mind it. And I see him pulling people over all the time. I think maybe it's that like I hang out with Andy's family. And then like I don't have any friends here. So I just meet who they know.
Starting point is 00:56:54 Yeah, right. And they don't fuck with the rich people. That's my only theory. Yeah, they probably don't. Yeah, I mean, where we, where I live, like, we got the Chickamauga cops, obviously, but then the town over is the county seat. So we've got Brownie County, which is what we call the like the county sheriffs and stuff. They're running around.
Starting point is 00:57:14 And also there's a fucking Georgia State Patrol outposts right there. So like in this little area where not shit goes on, it's just fucking, it's smoky everywhere, dude. And like art, dude, chikamaga cops like not that long ago. Like they got like brand new Dodge Chargers or whatever. And I'm like, and dude, like, art, where we? we live is so small that by the time you get that charger up to max speed you are out of your goddamn jurisdiction you know what i mean like there's no fucking reason whatsoever but then meanwhile it's like well the town can't afford this and afford that and i'm like why the fuck do we you know
Starting point is 00:57:50 like it makes no goddamn sense but like dude back in the day i mean i've told this story before but i literally choked a cop out in a pool and it was met with great acclaim from everyone like even the adults we're like fuck yeah fuck that guy you know what i mean and Like, because I know some people that I, some of my buddies I've talked to about, that I've been like, dude, we used to hate the fucking law. They'd be like, yeah, well, then I grew up. And I'm like, your daddy didn't. He hated them back then, too. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:58:15 Like, it wasn't just the kids that hated the cops. Like, everybody hated them. Man, it's so weird, too, when you think about the money aspect. I don't, like, that is. So the only crimes I can think of that have made the news beyond the local papers in the last, in years here in this town, is a cop body cam footage going viral because he was really mean to a homeless lady
Starting point is 00:58:41 and laughing at her. In Onina? Yeah. They got homeless people? I feel like this came up with you. She was like passing through, which is why the cops got called. I mean, it was a bore.
Starting point is 00:58:52 Like it made news, you know, because he was just mean. And then the other time was a sheriff deputy shot another sheriff deputy. He claimed an accident, but that sheriff deputy was going to run against him. as his daddy.
Starting point is 00:59:04 This was like a famous case. That's a podcast. Yeah. I think there's a podcast about it and stuff. So my point is like the cops are doing the only famous crimes here. Everything else is like some dude beating his wife, which is bad. But that's also a cop most of the time, statistically. So like what I'm saying is like we have all these cops. There's no reason.
Starting point is 00:59:27 They're not getting extra arrests. They're not doing anything except tickets. They are doing more tickets. You've always gotten one of them. Doge, man. They got to take care of these fucks. We had a cop. This was a couple years back.
Starting point is 00:59:38 I don't even know if he's still a cop here anymore, but there was a, like, they claimed there was some sort of standoff. This fucking guy wouldn't get out of his car, and then he finally did, and they thought he was armed or whatever. And anyways, there were shots fired, and this cop got shot in the leg,
Starting point is 00:59:53 and it was like this whole big old thing. Well, come to find out, the cop accidentally shot himself in the fucking leg. And was, you know, the butt of, of all the jokes in the town. Because he was all like at first was just like, you know,
Starting point is 01:00:07 they were like wounded warrior, caught in the line, purple heart, and turns out he just pulled his gun shittily and shot himself in the thigh. I try to say what's funnier, is if he knew he did that and let people believe it,
Starting point is 01:00:19 or if he also thought somebody else shot him for a few days. I'm sure he did. I don't know who did it, man. He was fucking crazy. We was in a full-on fight there. Dude, I had a buddy too.
Starting point is 01:00:31 This motherfucker, he got shot, like 12 goddamn times by the cop. This was like seven years ago. He gets shot like. You're a 50 cent. Kind of. He gets shot like it's Confederate money.
Starting point is 01:00:43 He got shot like 12 fucking times by the cops because he had a warrant out for his arrest right. And they come to his house and he comes out with a gun. And I'd heard that. And then he was in the hospital for quite a while, didn't die, you know, like quite a while. And I was like, well, that's the end of that. And I kind of hadn't been paying attention that much. It's like seven years ago.
Starting point is 01:01:03 Dude, I seen the other day on Facebook, this motherfucker got married, looks great. Like, he's cleaned his fucking life up, you know, but like got shot fucking 12 goddamn times. And you will not believe. At once? Yeah. Yeah. It's wild. It'd be so much funnier if the answer was no.
Starting point is 01:01:20 No. No, they came back a week later. Got his ass again. Yeah, shot him once at court. You know, something. But, dude, he. But still, I'm just saying it's wild help. I think I talked about that on this.
Starting point is 01:01:32 and I'm not mentioning names because I'd like genuinely like the guy. We were friends in high school, you know, and I don't know what went down. You know, listen, I'm certain that he deserved to be shot at least once. I don't know. But like when that happened, everybody in town was all the sudden overreaching cops, whatever to fuck for this one specific, you know, thing. And it was very interesting. I remember people got mad in Knoxville years ago because a cop choked out a white,
Starting point is 01:02:02 brat boy at UT. Like, it would, you know, he orton of it was stupid. It was bullshit. But like, it was wild. The response was swift. Like, that cop got fired. Of course. You know, it got handled with, or it got handled very quickly, you know,
Starting point is 01:02:19 because it was like some dealership owner's son who was, you know, and Sigap at UT or whatever it was. But, uh, but I ain't no telling how many black people, they stayed shooting. I don't even know. didn't even make the news. Drew probably knows, but. I had a thing I wanted to ask you, this is way off topic,
Starting point is 01:02:38 but I just need to know. So I've been playing a lot more video games lately. I used to when I was a kid all the time, but then I sort of, you know, fell off or whatever. But I've been playing a lot more lately and super enjoying it. I got a PS5.
Starting point is 01:02:50 I'll be playing all the, you know, Last of Us, the ghost of whatever to fuck, like the hidden games and stuff like that, I've been playing Witcher or whatever. And I see this online discourse and it just blows my mind
Starting point is 01:03:01 because like, let me ask you, Trey, have you been playing a video game recently and you thought to yourself, God, I can't enjoy this because I don't want to fuck this lady that's on the screen? No, I've never wanted, I'm not just saying this. I've never had any, even the remotest of sexual attractions to, uh, computer generated or hand-drawn women. Like, meaning. Save for Jessica Rabbit back. in the day.
Starting point is 01:03:32 Even that, I get that the way she's drawn, I get that like, if Jessica Rabbit was real, she would be an insanely intractive. Yeah, actually, if she would. They did that. They did a mock up of like what she would actually look like. And it's like, no, you wouldn't think that. She'd look like an alien. Well, if you, if you, whatever, if you made the real life version of her.
Starting point is 01:03:54 Yeah, Joan from Madman. But, uh, anyway. Um, but like, like all that draft. Japanese fucking cartoon porn and stuff. Like, you know, you can find like Lois Griffin getting gang banged and stuff. Where? Link.
Starting point is 01:04:10 You trust me, you can find it. You never been on a board side and seen it. Yeah, I'm just saying that. I'm just hitting. Where, wait, Lois? But let me, send me the link so I make sure I never watch it. But all that stuff has existed for a long time, cartoon porn and stuff.
Starting point is 01:04:24 And then CGI generated, computer generated characters with big old titties and stuff. I've just never. it ain't never made my wiener move at all at my whole life. Like even as a kid, even as like a horny ass teenager playing video games, like Lara Croft, I get that Lara Croft is hot. Right. But I never like, she never gave me a boner. It wouldn't, it wouldn't ruin your experience of the game if she was flat-chested.
Starting point is 01:04:49 Like, you're there to shoot people. I'm saying, I never, I feel like to even care about any of that to begin. Well, actually, no. I don't know how to, I know I'm all over the place. I was going to say I feel like to even care about that to begin with. You have to want to fuck these characters, which I never have. So I don't get it. But a lot of that is just motivated by, you know, how much they hate,
Starting point is 01:05:11 wokeness and they're, like, they're, you know, white dudes who think that, you know, they buy into all that red pill fucking man-manosphere bullshit and also play video games. And the two things get, you know, linked up together. It's when it's like they make a fucking, you know, they change the protagonist of a video game series. to a woman who's like not nymphie. You know, she's like, kind of hard around the edges and actually has armor that covers up her cleavage on this stuff.
Starting point is 01:05:41 And they see that and they're like, this is what, this is what wholeness has done to video games. And they, they do that with movies and shit too. It's not limited to video. They do that with everything. With movies,
Starting point is 01:05:52 it's at least is a real person. It is a real person. And I could see somebody going like, half of my enjoyment is the eye candy. Like, whatever, I think you should. just enjoy the story, but at least then I'm like, okay, whatever, you know.
Starting point is 01:06:04 But like, it's a fucking video game dog. Like, I'm mostly playing Batman. He got a mask on. Like, what does it even fucking matter? Like, we're just trying to murder motherfuckers and hit and cast spells. Like, what, what, I don't understand. You don't understand people wanting to be turned on while they're entertained? I don't get what you don't get.
Starting point is 01:06:26 Okay. I, but watch a porno. Like, go, you know what I mean? Like, if they all the sudden took all my favorite pornoes and replaced the actress with the ugly bitch, I'm upset about that. I'm sorry to try to out nerd these nerds a little bit.
Starting point is 01:06:44 And I've seen other people make this argument. But like, I'm more into the immersion. Me too. The story. And I think that it breaks immersion. For example, I play these games the Horizon franchise. Horizon Zero Dawn.
Starting point is 01:07:01 Oh, they're awesome. Horizon Zero Dawn and Horizon Forbidden West. And the protagonist of those games is a woman named Aloi. And she's like, she white, but she like an Indian because it's way in the future and white people are Indians now. It all makes sense in the context of the game. But anyway, so she's wearing Indian stuff hides and shit like that. She got face paint, war paint and all this stuff. And like her tities ain't out or none.
Starting point is 01:07:27 that stuff. If they were, that would bother me because I would be like, why would she be dressed like that? She's a huntress. Right. Who has to go to these far north lands with snow and she needs to be wearing fur. It's stupid for her tities. That would bother me if her tities were out. Right. These other guys are the exact opposite. Anytime a woman is in a video game, the tities better be out or they don't want the bitch to be there. It almost would never make sense for them to be. good looking in a video game like happen you know like in a zombie thing or whatever it's like the good looking lady's not gonna make it that far you know who is though the ugo that's had to fight for everything in her life you know what i mean yeah but also just bad ass is not like i don't know i don't know
Starting point is 01:08:14 that ain't true you know like what's her name uh she's been every badass latina for the past 30 years michel rodriguez oh yeah yeah yeah you right you know i was going to say in movies they do this all the time I mean, you guys kind of brought it up where like, you know, it'll be set in the old West where motherfuckers had one tooth and they all had malaria, but everyone's hot. Right. So, like, the immersion thing, I get that argument, but either it's kind of bullshit like you'd get used to it because you get used to it with movies or culturally, movies have just trained us to suspend our disbelief in that very specific way. because, but here's the thing about that. Ugly actors often don't make money as the leads. Sure.
Starting point is 01:09:00 In TV shows, they can, if you put surrounding by hot people and you make a dude. Thanks, Steve Bishimi, shout out. Or Kathy Bates. What? Kathy Bates. Hey, she's cute. Yeah, well, she just, you know, I mean, she's like, she's a big old gal. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:16 You know, but Kathy Bates ain't ever been a sex. Look, dude, Kathy Bates rules. Don't get me wrong. But she ain't a sex symbol, you know. I'm not saying. that I think the immersion argument makes sense on paper. Like, I'm going to get lost if you make this chick hot. But I don't think he actually carries.
Starting point is 01:09:32 If they just did it across the board in the industry, I actually don't think that would carry water. Sure. But either way, the point of the game to me would be to shoot the dude on the horse and get the gold. But it's also, there's other things, too, where it's like, even the ones that are, like, I know y'all saw it because somebody threaded it the other day. Hey, it was the Witcher one. No, not that one.
Starting point is 01:09:52 GTA 6. There's a GTA 6 trailer And in the trailer There's a like A bikini clad Latina I guess stripper She's like
Starting point is 01:10:02 Very scantily clad And you know She's curvy as hell She obviously Again computer generated So I don't actually want to Bying this You know it's supposed to be hot though
Starting point is 01:10:14 But you know She's made to look hot And she's in a bikini Very sexualized And these dudes that we're talking about Rip that apart Because they're like Who Wants to be
Starting point is 01:10:23 a fuck of fat Puerto Rican. That's what they said. A fat Puerto Rican. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Also, she's objectively not at all fat.
Starting point is 01:10:36 Like it's not in 1999 anymore. It's not like heroin. Although I guess heroin chic is coming back in. I don't know. But I thought Sidney just saved this from one way. I know. I don't. But I don't know what the fuck is going on out of these streets.
Starting point is 01:10:49 But I'm just saying they, even that, she is a very feminine. sexualized video game character. Even that, they're like, look at this fat, ugly bitch. Like, they're just, they just do that. They just don't hit. With every, they just don't hit. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:11:04 Yes. I'm sorry. Well, there you have it. All right. Well, come see me on the road this weekend. I'll be, I got two straight weekends coming up in Washington State. I believe Tacoma's this weekend and Spokane's next weekend. So Caleb Sinan is going to be with me, both of those.
Starting point is 01:11:21 He's a very funny guy. So come see it. go to Trey Crowder.com. We've got a bunch of other dates after that, including Santa Barbara at the end of this month. So make a hit. I'm going to be in Nashville the 22nd. That's a Thursday at 10 p.m. auditioning for Netflix as a joke fest.
Starting point is 01:11:40 They didn't tell me not to announce it. So I'm saying, hey, if you're in Nashville and you're free Thursday and you want to come by, dude, it'd be rad if 10 or 15 of you came and made that audience a little bit skewed towards your boy. I cancel my Atlanta shows because of that. I do have one in Marietta the next night, but anyway, whatever. Corey. I'm not on tour right now, but you can go to we love Corey.com and see all of the entertainment I'm putting out.
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