wellRED podcast - Elon Sucks But Nic Cage Rules

Episode Date: February 26, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:19 It's just like you can just, it makes it easier to lose count of, well, your count, the count every month, how much you're spending. A lot of people don't even know how much they spend on a per month basis. I'm not going to lie, I can be one of those people. Like, let me ask you right now. Skewers out, whatnot, sorry, well-read people. People across the ske universe, I should say. Do you even know how many subscriptions that you actively pay for every month or every year? Do you even know?
Starting point is 00:00:42 Do you know how much you spend on takeout or delivery? Getting a paid chauffeur for your chicken low mane? Because that's a thing that we do in this society. Do you know how much you spend on that? It's probably more than you think. But now there's an app designed to help you manage your money better, and it's called Rocket Money. Rocket Money is a personal finance app
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Starting point is 00:03:49 You know Yes You're still Tending to your, uh, yeah, your shredded throat that you hide over there. Yeah, I think if we didn't have a job where I used my voice a lot, it would have long since healed, but since we do and I, yeah, I have. It's just, you know, it just is one of the hitner medicines for sure.
Starting point is 00:04:06 Oh, God. Well, I got, I got a hit, you know. Yeah. Doctors orders. Yeah. In 2025, it's one of the top. But if you go back, I don't know 50 years. I mean, hair wrong.
Starting point is 00:04:20 It's heroin and go, baby. Yeah, heroin, morphine. I mean, we shared a picture on putting on airs, our sister podcast one time of like, just this random little elixir. You'd just buy over the counter, and it was like, you know,
Starting point is 00:04:32 fucking, it had heroin, morphine, cocaine, I mean, just all sorts of shit. And they were just like, give this little fucker. He can go to school, and then he'll be back in the field in no time, you know?
Starting point is 00:04:45 And it's like, I'd fucking bet he would. Probably wrote some great Pink William songs, too, you know? I was going to send my wife. to the fucking Looney Ben for talking back, but I gave her some of this, and suddenly she let me put in her butt
Starting point is 00:04:57 and stopped talking back. She was fucking real quiet at first, and then happy. That's a pretty good club, though. I think she'd be all right. Lonnie Ben, Tulsa, it's a good room. I like it, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:08 I'll be there in July, June. Yeah, some hours. I almost had to make the depression kind of hit, you know, look for some people, having that, at least, tolerable,
Starting point is 00:05:19 because now, like, we're in a sort of depression, but every time we go to get fucked up, we got to, like, put a fence strip test in it. You know, like, their hits were, like, doctors regulated and, like, readily available. Or you could just go to the sody fountain and get you some cocaine. I don't know if people could afford it. That's true. I mean, yeah, but, dude, obviously.
Starting point is 00:05:38 So this is a quarter, which is also how much a house costs. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, no, I mean, it obviously didn't really hit. And the thing is, they didn't know what they had. just like the people in the 80s, like I'm like, God damn, they had qualoids. That was so great. But to them, it was just like, yeah, but Reagan, you know what I mean? Like everything sucks.
Starting point is 00:05:56 Like, well, I don't, you know, I think a lot of people, I mean, obviously. That were on quailodes like Reagan, yeah. Yeah, loved it. For sure. They're people having the absolute time of their lives right now. I want you to make no mistake about what's going on in the world today. You and I and some other people might be either an existential wreck or like a literal like what am I going to do in my life
Starting point is 00:06:19 because I'm trans or work for the government or both but there are people I know. Do you guys follow this guy? He used to be all gas, no breaks. I think Trace talked about him before he's a big fan. I know he's channel 5 now. Yeah. I had I kind of lost track of him after he had that kerfuffle with and he couldn't
Starting point is 00:06:37 call it all gas, no breaks no more and I knew he continued to do stuff but I haven't seen any of his stuff since then. I got him on Instagram. He gets real hard for me and what he's mostly doing lately is just interviewing people who are super excited about what's going on. Oh yeah. And on the one hand, it's great to watch because they're idiots. On the other hand, there is a part of you that part of me anyway that's going,
Starting point is 00:07:00 ah, I see with jealousy. Look at how happy this crazy Nazi lady. Oh, I think about Tray's, I think about Tray's bit almost every day, whether or not in real life or just like perusing the internet. I told you this, Drew, but I didn't tell Tray because last week I was dead. You might not remember this. I told you right at the beginning of our show last week in Athens. I'd gone out the night before and went to this bar. And while we were there, there was this, I couldn't tell how old, in my mind, I'm in this bar and I'm like, everyone in here is underage.
Starting point is 00:07:30 Every single person is underage. Because like 21-year-olds look like 14-year-olds to me, right? But then walks in this dude who's like 6, 4, 6,65, and I'm being, I know that's tall, but I'm being serious. Like, he was like, he looked like, he looked, and he had kind of gingerish hair, but he looked like if Conan O'Brien, instead of going to Harvard and writing the paper and becoming a comedian had been more structured
Starting point is 00:07:52 to be in the movie Top Gun, like he had a real fucking jaw on him, you know, and he was like a ginger, but that kind of, that good, freckly Irish war ginger, you know what I mean? Not the nerd kind. War ginger. A war ginger.
Starting point is 00:08:06 You've seen him. I must start saying that's what I am when people are. You are, you are. You are a war ginger. But anyways, he's got on a fucking leather jacket. He's just the coolest, like the coolest most striking, one of the striking, he's handsomest dude I've ever seen. And he walks over like behind me when I'm ordering a lone star or something.
Starting point is 00:08:21 He struck up a conversation. I start talking to him and I realize like, oh, this dude is young. This is about to not hit for me, you know. But we start talking. He was like a super endearing guy. He was very sweet, you know. And he's not immediately calling me an old piece of shit and calling me dumb. Or if he is, it's going way over my dumb ass head.
Starting point is 00:08:36 You know what I mean? So we start striking up this conversation. And we're talking about the world. And he's talking about like, you know, all the generations that were better than him like the silent generation and all this stuff and blah blah and he was like uh how you feel how you feel about you know my gender like how do you feel about younger people because you said you're like 37 and i got real emotional now i was on like a fucking fuck ton of mushroom so i was super in my fields right and i looked at him and i was like i was like man you know i you know i know it's
Starting point is 00:09:03 cliche for people that are older than you to like shit on the young people and shit on the generation but like especially talking to you man like i've always really believed that like your generation like y'all might y'all might really be the ones to fix everything and he got this fucking look on his face and he just put his hand on my shoulder and he goes buddy we're about to fuck shit up worse than you've ever seen in your whole life right and he meant it and it seemed like he meant it in this like like a good way you know what i mean like you know like you know what i mean and i was like oh god like yeah like a shake up the system type thing like nothing's ever been good we're gonna fucking like we're gonna fuck it up but like that's a good thing
Starting point is 00:09:39 so i don't know man you know like there's a lot of happy people for a long for a long time I just thought that generally, not because of anything specific about the generation underneath us, just because I thought it was just a natural order of things, the way things worked. It's just like younger people get a little better and more progressive. And also like statistically smarter and all this stuff is at humanity advances through the ages. So I was always a big believer. And it's like, I progress happens one funeral at a time. There's more people old, you know, people die out and youngans who got better brains about stuff come up.
Starting point is 00:10:11 We'll be all right. and frankly now maybe this is also the natural order of things is uh growing to doubt the generation after you is just a natural but like right but that was always my default state until we're not doubting them because they're being hippies
Starting point is 00:10:28 we're doubting them the opposite we've gotten older and I've seen them I've seen what they're out here doing and Alex Pete Keaton's I'm not I'm not super confident anymore but isn't it but in Gen Z being the shepherds of our future, anything like that.
Starting point is 00:10:44 You know, some alarming reports. Of course, it's obviously not all of them, but it's like, well, Drew, you're 50. You were alive. You were alive in the 80s when this sort of happened, like, the kids, like Alex P. Keaton was a show that was made because it reflected society. Like there was a lot of young Republicans because of Reagan, right? And Trump molded his whole Make America Great again based on Reagan, you know? Yeah, I was, I'm 50.
Starting point is 00:11:08 Yeah. I don't know, I don't even know what Alex P. Keaton is. I do, I have said on here before that one of my polysci professors told me in college, every piece of research we've ever done on every generation shows that they pretty much match their parents percentage-wise. And that the only hope we have of progress is just shifting the Overton window, redefining what conservative or liberal or progressive means. In other words, yesterday's conservatives think black people should use different water or fountains. and tomorrow's just don't want to pay taxes was what he was saying.
Starting point is 00:11:43 He's kind of the only hope. Right. I do think that with Gen Z, we are seeing a little bit of regress in the conservative side of things. We also maybe seeing some progress. You know, you said, you know, like, it's a weird thing because I think the way you phrase a tray was I don't have a lot of hope as far as them being the shepherds of our future. But they are. You may not have any hope about how it's going to go. Right.
Starting point is 00:12:07 I am, maybe because I'm 50, as Corey said. I'm just at a different place where I'm like, man, whatever they do, like, it ain't on me. I've actually worked on a bit about this. Like, everyone asks me, do you regret having a kid because of what's going on? People will be like, oh, damn, what a time to have a kid. It's the best time to have a kid. Sure. Because I don't have to do shit.
Starting point is 00:12:29 Y'all need to get in these streets and throw some burning bottles. I have done that. I have to be here with this. I would love to be with you guys, but he's got a nap soon. So 100%. I wish them all luck and I will help them. I don't mean to be like super flip about it. That's more for the stage as a bit.
Starting point is 00:12:47 But like, man, it'll be what it'll be. Right. And also by the time, me and your kids specifically are like our age and in charge of stuff, like we will be long dead. So it really don't matter. Well, we will be in charge of things soon, but not as much as other generations. Because we don't, it's weird. My theory on this, I actually love to hear y'all's thoughts on this.
Starting point is 00:13:07 There are way less millennial. like politicians, leaders of company, people with major power and clout at the age millennials are at, than generations prior? Without question. Is that, well, it's a fact. My question is, is that just a math thing? Like, people are retiring and dying later, so they're not giving it up? Or is that a capital thing?
Starting point is 00:13:33 Millennials own less, therefore we run less. I think it's both. And also, I think those two things are in. intrinsically linked because I think it all comes back to, you know, as any millennial, I'll just put it all on the boomers and say it was all their fault. But like they, they have stuck around way longer than any other preceding generation has and refused to give up power and refuse to pass the torch. And that's directly related to millennials have not amassed the type of wealth into their 40, late 30s and 40s that previous generations have. And so it's all just one big, you know, it never trickle down snowballed. all, you know, that we've been dealing with generationally. We're running the bars. All the shit, people pointed out before, but it's true. And I know, you know, I know we're the fucking, we're the biggest put, you know,
Starting point is 00:14:19 the people who raised us and gave us participation trophies talked about how we're the biggest softest generation. For accepting them. For example. Yeah, right. It's our fault. But anyway, I know that we are that. But at the same time, it's like, dude, the shit that we've grown up through and
Starting point is 00:14:34 around and seen. Like, yeah. In our childhood, like, you know, to. the fucking the obviously 9-11 and the war on terror and the war on drugs and the economic collapse and then just yeah the patriotic and fascism and all this just it's just been wild and a lot of millennials are just like you know what's that what's that what's that pro cigarette they like that fucking that meme of fucking ben affleck smoking a cigarette yeah whatever you know yeah they've we're that as a generation as soon as they clicked on it was already this and
Starting point is 00:15:06 so they are acclimated to it where we had to get used to it and we have the misfortune of remembering a time before and that that gives us hope that it could ever be that again and they don't have that hope they never had it exactly there you go but like uh you know that that phrase uh it's like there's decades when nothing happens and weeks where decades happen or whatever like it really feels like and i know it's because of the advent of the internet and like 24 hour news cycles or whatever but it's like i know it's not just that but that has that does there's no way that doesn't have a shit time to do with it because like there's a lot of stuff we just even even big stuff there's a lot of big stuff
Starting point is 00:15:41 that it would take some of us a while to figure out if we didn't have a buzzer on our phone tell us but like it feels like we've been living in that type of thing for at least since 2000 I mean you know what I mean it's fucking nuts yeah I do know what you mean um so like what you know obviously we don't know the answer we're just comics whatever whatever but like what's your thoughts on that as far as how's that play out. That meter's got a hit. But do millennials, I don't know, man, I think, personally, I think more people are just losing all faith in anything bigger than like the mayor.
Starting point is 00:16:23 When it comes to politics, people are like, look, it's fucked. Let's do what we can locally. And I think we'll be way more suited than that for that. Like, I really think that the time of the millennial in politics is coming, but it's going to be that grassroots style. It's not going to be. I don't mean to imply that we're going to, the next president's going to be AOC. I don't believe that.
Starting point is 00:16:43 I mean to imply that like what will shape the next 30 years, I think will happen more locally. Some of that's going to be real negative though. Some that's going to be like fucking brown shirt posseys rounding up Mexicans or anyone. Yeah. I mean that that fucking like avowed white Christian nationalist group who's trying to buy up all that land near my hometown
Starting point is 00:17:04 in the neighboring county where I grew up with like, the stated intent of turning it into like a, you know, not to tradwife utopia or whatever. Like they're just open about it. And they openly say like nobody, this country's only for white people.
Starting point is 00:17:23 And they also do make an exception for the descendants of slaves. And I assume that's because they're like, because we're going to bring back slaves. Right. We need to be slaves. But other than that, you ain't even allowed to live here anymore. And they say all this on a podcast.
Starting point is 00:17:37 podcast weekly and put out a newsletter and stuff. Are you saying they're millennials? I think that the main two guys are, I think. I pretty sure they're like our age. I think so. You'd almost have to be to start like no old person is going to start that. You don't start the thing when you're old. You've just been doing it, you know.
Starting point is 00:17:54 Well, people might find out about it, though. There's a shit ton of like Gen X stuff going on with this tech bro right wingism. I was about to say it's a startup, which that's us, you know. I think that's Gen X with us. us sometimes. With us being the little pigeons. I could be convinced either way. I mean, there's like Zuckerberg's definitely us.
Starting point is 00:18:14 I think Elon's X. Yeah. Fiel's X. I don't know what that much. Dude, he, he looked. Jobs's X. Sometimes I could see that motherfucker and sometimes he looked, I'm like, yeah, it could be late 30s, early 40s.
Starting point is 00:18:31 And then sometimes I'm seeing him and I'm like, that's a hard 50. I don't know. Which one we're talking about? Thiel, Peter Thiel. He looked, he don't look. A lot of them do look. They stay too, which is almost like when they're black. It's like, well, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:18:43 That's true. I think they also get a lot of, I know this is very stupid to say, but I think they get a lot of chemical pills, those types of people. They get a lot of all that. But I'm just saying, like, sometimes they'll come on and they will just look like a scab. You know what I mean? But then the next day, they'll look amazing. And you're like, what did you go to that? Did you get a one day sunburn?
Starting point is 00:19:05 Like, how does that fucking work? No, I don't know, man. Like, it's, it's all unfortunate. Kind of on that note, I guess, because you just reminded me, I saw this yesterday. I remember this being viral at the time. Where did I'm going with this? I, of course, spread from commenters on Reddit and maybe completely made up, but you know, that's how we're all around here. But you guys remember this picture?
Starting point is 00:19:27 You're talking about how wild they look and stuff, and I didn't know which one you were even talking about at first. Because, like, do y'all remember this picture that went viral of Zuckerberg a few years ago? Yeah, yeah, when he has the white. He has all the zinc oxide on his face, which like, honestly, respect. I mean, you got to care about your skin. But he just looks like a child of a person drew him. Yeah, or like he was, you know, just came out of the robot box or something. Like he looks bloodless.
Starting point is 00:19:51 He looks eyelidless, too. Yeah, right. It's very reptilian. He's never looked good in any picture I've ever seen. So, but anyway, what I read was that, and maybe, hell, maybe the opposite, maybe this was a common knowledge at the time. But what I read was that, like, it's believed that he, uh, he engineered that happening, uh, as a, like that photo going viral and everybody dunking on how he looks and shit like that. That he planned that as a distraction from him, like, buying up a shitload of land in Hawaii that he's going to use for evil purposes or whatever. So it's like, you're pathetic.
Starting point is 00:20:28 It's like Zuckerberg, Hawaii. Anytime you Google his name, Zuckerberg, Hawaii, you get a picture of that. in that story, but look how fucking wild he looks, as opposed to the evil shit that he was doing at the same time, and that that was part of his, like, an actual plan. Like a sad thing. And that's, uh, that's just wild. Egoless in that way, or has their ego in check?
Starting point is 00:20:51 It's, it's like a strange paradox of someone who has a big enough ego to want to be evil and rule the world. So much that they can like, because like, that's the opposite of Elon, right? Like, Elon has to believe that people love him. Yeah, Elon's never think this is a bad thing. I think that would be his downfall, whereas the shit like what you just described, that's like, because it sounds like almost Zen. Like, I don't care what people say about me because I'm too focused on world domination. And you know, Jesus Christ, what's going on situation.
Starting point is 00:21:25 Yeah, right. Right. Yeah, that's got his priorities in order. It's just, you know, that's a good point. The top of the list of his priorities is world domination. Speaking of Elon having to have everything. everybody like him, which like, God, dude, just talk about the, like, his, he, he, I've never seen a more cringe-worthy motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:21:41 And, like, the other day, like, he sort of, I don't know if y'all saw him on that CPAC panel where he sort of proved that the difference between Twitter and real life, you know what I mean? Like, where what he, like, when he's on Twitter, he's in, in arguably his biggest echo chamber. Because everybody follows him and everybody sees his shit and everybody likes his stuff and all these people are commenting. And I really think it is, like, inflated his sense of like, I'm fucking hilarious.
Starting point is 00:22:04 Without a doubt it has. There's no doubt. He gets on this panel and he's like, I'm going to say, I am become meme and people are going to lose their fucking shit. And he says it and no one does anything. And it's like, you see this look on his face of like, oh, wow. Like it certainly helped with the election, but like people don't, you know, people don't just follow me on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:22:25 He thinks that like sharing Edge Lord shit post memes that get a lot of like traction, a lot of which is like artificially inflated, by the way. He has people on his staff there that are like extrapolating the, you know, the purported size of his engagement and stuff. But he thinks that all that means that, yeah, like you said, he's super hilarious. That and the fact that fucking Rogan and Chappelle and people fuck with him off. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:51 Dude, I just remember that. I'm hilarious. And, uh, and then, yeah, so I love to see it that type of. I know. Because I saw that clip too and it's like, yeah, he needs a million more moments like that where dude, he's got some. something he thinks like this is going to absolutely crush and then everybody just kind of looks at him strangely because it was you know stupid and cringy like everything he says i'm sure y'all
Starting point is 00:23:13 well drew didn't because he's not on twitter the only reason i know this is because i'm on twitter and so i got an like a notification from the app or whatever so when elan took over he was like you know in order to keep your blue check or whatever you got to pay dollars and like i didn't give a mother fuck about the blue check but the whole thing was like you're you're you know that it's going to limit your reach if you don't and also So if you want to be able to post longer videos, you have to do this. And like, my whole thing was like, I'll do, if I can post longer videos, I'll pay, you know, whatever, as long as it's not ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:23:42 Like, that's important to me. That's a business decision. I'm just going to do it, right? Well, at first it was $8, right? They didn't went up to like $17. And I just kept kind of being like, all right, whatever. Then it was 20. And then like a couple months ago, it went up to 30 and I was like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:56 Oh, no, no, you about to lose your mind. This was like a couple months ago. And I was like, I'm going to let it go. for a couple months and I'm just going to like test my metrics and see I get a notification yesterday it's going up to $50 a month and I was like well no obviously no but like I'm not spending I don't spend 50 bucks a month on any fucking service you know what I mean but like my point is it's like nothing it's never been more clear that he is attempting to make Twitter a mechanism to where unless you have money your opinion doesn't matter because nobody can afford $50 a month
Starting point is 00:24:29 just to not have their speech uh fucking you know push down in the algorithm. I agree, but I think it's more of a product of every fucking advertiser abandon and shit. Sure, he's failing. He's having to do anything he can to make the... Two things can be true, though. Because I think he thinks that, like, his most devoted people on there will pay it almost whatever it is, and I think he's probably right about that.
Starting point is 00:24:53 He is, but like... Like, cat turd ain't paying shit, but like the biggest losers on there that are so involved in all that and love what Twitter has been. become, they'll keep paying it. And I think they're about how many of those are there and can they float a multi billion dollar? Right. That seems like there's a lot of them.
Starting point is 00:25:13 No, there is. What we haven't talked about is people who paid it up front have now gotten addicted to thinking that they hit. That is a powerful drug, but, you know, it's not as powerful as Heron, son.
Starting point is 00:25:29 Like, they ain't, he ain't, he ain't on the corner with the undeniable product he's gonna absolutely not and I mean I felt like to me it was just I felt it necessary
Starting point is 00:25:40 because like my job is like to promote I want people to see my shit I want to see my show yeah just now like but it went up for you went to 30 yeah but it was only 30
Starting point is 00:25:49 for like a month like that's what I'm saying is it went to 30 and then it jumped to like 50 and like if you still got a month if you still got a month do you still have time let I still have to yeah I canceled it but I still have like another month
Starting point is 00:25:59 so you said to check on there because it's possibility, I don't know how you're going to react to this. No, there's a lot of people that unfollowed me because I had the check. Because you know, when it was at 20, you could hide your check, and I did. I don't know how this is going to land for you, but it's a possibility that you could have just had all that without paying it the whole time, or that when you stop paying it, you'll still have all that. That's great.
Starting point is 00:26:24 Because the reason I say that is because I stopped a while, like a long time ago. And you can still post long videos? And I, well, for a while I couldn't, and I was having to edit Twitter-specific versions of my videos and stuff, which is what I was doing. But, uh, and but then one day I got on and everything was just turned back to normal. Well, that's, that's great. And they said that he had, they had, uh, went and a lot, because a lot of people were, because I was verified before. A lot of people were jumping ship at that time. Right. Like, I remember the one I saw, I think was, was Roy, because you know how much I obviously love and respect, Roy Wood Jr. Sure. He was like, I mean, I saw a bunch of people doing it, but he was.
Starting point is 00:27:01 one who made like a post about you know fuck this shit type of thing and I was like all right well I can't you know but do you know how dumb I am I didn't pay attention that I was like well this is what I had to do I so I turned it off but then after a month or two one day I get on there and I had a check again and I had all that stuff back again at the day I can't I even posted it when my check came back I posted on Twitter I was like just please don't yeah I'm not paying for this they gave me this this just happened right I don't I don't give a rat's ass about the check matter of fact again back when you could you could even when you had to verify you could hide your check i fucking hit it because i was like i don't want people to because people
Starting point is 00:27:39 would they just be like if you got a check i'm fucking i'm deleting you or whatever you know what i mean and i was like i just want to be able to post a three minute video that's it but yeah but so they i don't know you know and i don't know what's happened with it since then but i know that i always even though obviously my twitter whole thing is falling off a lot naturally I still post every video I make on Twitter and I still have. I can still, you know, I still have all that stuff and I haven't paid and will I be damn. I'm going to.
Starting point is 00:28:10 Drew's the only one of us with a moral fiber. He just actually left. Buddy, I finally had a good enough reason to go. We can moral fiber it all day long, but I changed it to gravy baby pod and put a fucking goat as the picture like, God, years ago. Yeah. I mean, Elon was involved in that part of my life, but I just realized. Twitter was rotting my brain.
Starting point is 00:28:30 And I also realized, and we've talked about this before, there was a moment in time, this may not be true anymore, there was a moment in time where a good friend of ours who struggles to sell tickets compared to Trey, like not compared to me, had more followers than Trey on Twitter, but was moving notes. And I was like, it's not even, I can't even justify what this is doing to me financially.
Starting point is 00:28:51 I certainly can't justify it in terms of like my life. So I just, even like pre-Elon, not to be a hipster about it or whatever, I just realized it's not that Twitter sucks for me. I will acknowledge people like Twitter used to be good. Yeah, it was too good. Like, it was a drug. It was good because I was like addicted to it. It wasn't fucking good for me in any way.
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Starting point is 00:35:33 Me too. Conair, Alzheimer, obviously. Stacked cast of sundry lunatics and stuff with appropriately 90s premise and just everything about it. So we watched that mean the boys and it hit, but I was watching it hit for them yes it did hit for them I was thinking about so Nick
Starting point is 00:35:54 Cage I don't know how much of this is like at a hundred percent accurate but what I always heard was you know what most people have heard I think because he's in everything he never says no and people are like well you know he got into a lot of financial trouble with the IRS and stuff like that and I always heard also you know yeah he made all kinds of money in the 80s and 90s but he blew it all on home castles and dynar soar bones and stuff right as as you do but that got me to thinking about like you read stories sometimes or hear stories about like some of these famous people and athletes, whoever,
Starting point is 00:36:24 that like, they make literally millions of dollars and some of them still, they still do sort of live paycheck to paycheck. And they give paycheck to paycheck with a mansion and a fleet of cars or whatever. But that's why they live paycheck to paycheck is because they just have all this. It's insane. Like I would rocket money how I have fucking stupid weightlifting app and a GIF app that I'm still like paying for. It's like they have.
Starting point is 00:36:48 A butler. Yeah, and boats and stuff that they don't. And it's just like... Imagine rocket money. You hit the button and it just says, you have a butler, dumb ass. Kill Jeeves. Yeah. But I just can't.
Starting point is 00:37:01 I'm so, you know, poor white trash and money dumb. I know that you ought not be that way. I know it's inadvisable. I can't wrap my head around like, because usually it's money dumb people that end up doing that type of shit a lot of times. Yeah. By necessity. You don't end up like that. ain't a little money dumb.
Starting point is 00:37:19 Of course. I don't. I guess I'm a different kind of money dumb because I would be so afraid of it going away. Immediately. Yeah, but I think it's always the biggest ego people who do it. You know what I mean? Like Brian Denehy, I don't think, had a butler.
Starting point is 00:37:37 I mean, granted, he didn't make millions like Nick Cage did, you know. I think it's biggest ego or lack of it. Like, I definitely think there's some people who are like, Yeah. Money comes when it goes. You know what I mean? It's all hit while I have it. For the record, I think Nick Cage is doing fine. So it's like, he's got rich family.
Starting point is 00:37:58 Well, that's true, yeah. And he's made all the, I've, the person I've always gotten is like, you know, he went through some tough times financially, but he's gotten his shit together and all that. And I don't want to put. Nick Cage is just, he's just obviously a wild ass some bitch. I don't want to equate him with some of these like, you know, because there's also like influencers and stuff like that who like,
Starting point is 00:38:16 yeah, rent big mant. and shit, you know, because like they got to appear to be, like they hit, because that's part of their whole thing is hitting, but they're kind of faking it and they're spending everything they make every month on all this stuff. It's like, I ain't trying to equate my man, Nick Cage, the fucking, you know, of course not.
Starting point is 00:38:35 With the goats with these people, but I just find it to be an interesting phenomenon. If I was one of those influences, but again, I couldn't, their brains are just different, but I would be like, every day I would be like, this will go away. This is insane. Yeah, right. What, like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:38:50 I got to feel like a lot of them influencers became influencers because they didn't need a backup plan. Now, not all of them. I'm sure there's plenty that come from working class families or whatever, but like, maybe not plenty, but there's definitely some. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:39:03 There's no river so long it don't contain a bin. But like, yeah, I do think some of them just aren't worried about it because it's like everything will be, it'll end up working out fine. But like, I mean, I guess there has to be that idea in some people's mind of just like,
Starting point is 00:39:16 this will hit forever. Like, it's kind of, Like with actors and influencers and stuff, it's like sort of you go, okay, well, maybe you could see why it would. But like, athletes is the one that bugs me out because it's like, dude, you know you only got eight years in the league. Like, you know what I mean? Most of the athletes, like their story is about bad advice. Like they were told if you do XYZ, this is exactly how you extend your money.
Starting point is 00:39:39 And it's like, yeah, well, you invest in restaurants. It's never been a good idea. Sure. Also, I just heard that I don't know, I'm not sure this is either. but, you know, we all remember it. One, one, maybe the biggest 30th or 30 was broke, right? Remember that was one of the biggest 30 for 30s? And I heard that that actually sort of like our boy Morgan Spurlock was supersized.
Starting point is 00:39:58 I mean, that documentary actually led to some change that a lot of that, at least American professional sports leagues after that came out. And it was, it was such a bad look that they started taking financial literacy more seriously with like those, like resources and stuff for rookies coming in the league and that type of thing. And I guess it actually has had like, worked or it has helped at least. Like it's not as prevalent of a thing. Of course, they're also making
Starting point is 00:40:21 fucking way more than they used to. That too, but there's also more opportunities for them after athletics than there used to be like, dude, imagine, like, do you know how many dudes in the 90s that like hit really hard? But if podcasts had have existed, they would have had such a more longevity.
Starting point is 00:40:38 Like Brian Bosworth, for instance. Oh, dude. Fuck yeah, Pete Rose. A gambling website. Yeah. Do eat Rose. Yes, man. But I'm saying like, The Hall of Fame.com.
Starting point is 00:40:49 Right, dude. Right. And like I think about a lot of those dudes who like, you know, they made a lot of money or whatever. But then it's like they retired. Those checks got smaller and like there were only seven broadcasting opportunities across the super station and everything. And a lot of them were filled. So they couldn't. They'd have to go on like a small market radio, you know, and be like the guy in small market radio.
Starting point is 00:41:11 And then you hope that you move up to ESPN. But even then there's only so many slots. And like now like fucking. You just make, and I'm not saying that like, that naturally you'll be, you still have to hit at podcasting and stuff. Like, I think it's possible that guys who were played for the Bengals and did Cincinnati area radio, maybe they made podcast money back then. Yeah, yeah, no, I'm not saying they bigger deal. But, but only one of them could. But only one of them could.
Starting point is 00:41:41 Like, and I don't mean this is a good, like, he's starting to make a comeback now, which really don't hit. John Rocker. Imagine John Rocker. Like back when all his time had come again, by the way. Of course he's back in the come back. He'd been lurking in the shadows this whole time. And he was like, it's time. But I mean, I'm just saying like that guy.
Starting point is 00:41:58 And this is all for good and for bad. But like John Rocker in the 90s when all that bullshit happened, if like Alex Jones had already had a pod info wars or whatever, John Rocker would have never missed a mortgage payment. It would have just went right into it. You know what I mean? Let me bring up something that you all touched on indirectly, but I don't think it's really been said.
Starting point is 00:42:17 Because what we're talking about is like athletes or influencers or actors kind of running out of money. And Trey, you said like, it's hard to wrap your brain around it because you're like, you're so money dumb that you just would be to, like, you wouldn't let yourself buy that many cars or whatever. I'm so money dumb that I'm like, I can't afford, you know, and I mean, I feel like, comics are better at it. But I'm saying I could afford, you know, I look at something. I'm like, I can't do that or I couldn't afford, you know, because. You're comparing the way they look at the future and the way you look at the future.
Starting point is 00:42:50 I think there's a large swath of these people who are incapable of looking at the future. And like in some ways, for some of them, it's their charm. If we're talking about certain rappers, probably certain comedians, there's certain kind of charming and childlike about people who just like, when they lose it all even, some of them will still be like, away it goes, you know, smoking a cigarette, talking about, damn, what a time we had. I'll make it back. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:16 It's so like it ain't money dumb or money smart or rich or poor. It's like a literal either refusal or inability or whatever word you want to throw at it. They're not engaging with beyond the present. And what's kind of crazy about that is both the Buddhists and many psychologists would argue that is a much healthier way to live. Now obviously not if you've got like three kids relying upon you for their future and stuff like that. But just in terms of personal health, like that's probably better. DJ Lewis could have gotten a TV show and came close to it a couple of times and got a fuck ton of money and then spend it all on land to take care of dogs and then and then and then whatever
Starting point is 00:43:57 else potato guns or whatever and I do believe he would still have the land and the dogs at the end and a couple of but I could also see him being like oh yeah we did buy a tank and blow it up I forgot about that but we raised $10,000 for the dogs that day yeah no I couldn't I couldn't agree I couldn't more with it like it but it i guess the more that's the healthier philosophy if you're going to be rich but like the healthier philosophy would be to just not spend all that dumb fuck money on shit and just still live within your means but like not worry about it you know what i mean i mean yeah right but that's another aspect is like what you do like an athlete for example you know like you said they know it's time limited and it's like they try to make enough money to hit forever even
Starting point is 00:44:45 once they can't, you know, physically do it anymore unless they got broadcasting, you know, uh, right. Opportunity will be fine no matter what. Actors and people like that. So like I just, the other night was reading about 80s movies or something. Something made me think of the, the Arnold movie, Commando, right? Which all-time classic, one of the dumbest hit-in-est movies of the 80. He kills an entire sovereign nation at the end of that movie.
Starting point is 00:45:11 Yeah. By himself. Pecks rippling the whole time. And one thing, me and Thompson used to always laugh about, and I guess this is common for most people that we're fans that movie growing up is like, no disrespect to the guy, great actor or whatever. But the dude that plays the big bad in that, the nemesis for Arnold, is like a doy guy in a mesh tank top. Like, he's not ripped at all at all. You know, he's kind of tall and like beefy, but again, in a doughy way. And it's just like he looks like kind of, he sort of looks like fat Freddie Mercury or something.
Starting point is 00:45:42 and he's the villain Freddy Ford Mercury Freddie Ford Mercury yes and it's like it was always funny so the other day I was like I wonder whatever happened
Starting point is 00:45:50 in that guy right so I googled him and like within the past few years at least there's might even been like presently
Starting point is 00:45:58 he put that check in Apple stock or something no no no no it's opposite but he's uh well he Zoom he goes to like
Starting point is 00:46:06 conventions and stuff yeah right because he played a villain in a few 80s movies I can't remember what the other ones but so to this day he goes to conventions and sits at booths and stuff like that and it's like and I just wonder because I feel like you have some insight into that don't you show because you know
Starting point is 00:46:22 wrestlers and stuff so I'm wondering like is that better than just like I don't know sitting at home well I was going to say being like a bartender or something yeah I mean it depends like obviously go ahead Drew well I just the back half of my last point so like the DJ thing I said he'd keep the enough money for the dogs because you're not a complete idiot and that's what he would want to do. A lot of times, though, you read these stories about him losing everything and then they just end up being regular people. Right. That's kind of what I'm asking. Right, but like, but the headline is always like, Ryan Leaf lost everything.
Starting point is 00:47:01 And now he makes $100,000 a year at this private school where he coaches football and teaches. And I'm like, it sounds like he's doing okay. I know. And he hit for a few years. So, like, there's a big part of each and I hear these stories about him. Nick Cage has seven houses and he lost all six. That's badass. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:47:21 I'm sorry, that rules. It does, yeah, because he's fine now because he's okay now. Yeah. The question about, but for me, this part of it is, it's related to what you're saying, where it's more like when the time comes, do you just walk away from it all and just live like a regular life versus, I feel like those appearance fees and all the type of stuff is a version of like trying to hang to hold on to the version not if you make more money well that's the question it comes down to for me and also like and also like yeah because with the wrestlers like
Starting point is 00:47:53 you know I've been to so many conventions and I've worked with some of those dudes like when I go to the conventions Conra's my buddy and often I'll volunteer to like sit at their booth and like it's not it's not like I'm ever in threat of having to beat somebody up but like basically what you do is you like you make sure the neck beard don't spend too much time there and you you be the bad guy so Mark Henry don't have to. Like, hey, buddy, you know, come on now. We got people at clubs. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:16 For us. No, we don't. We let people say as long as we want. No, we have a guy in the shadows that will kill you if you look at Trey in the eyes. And if he doesn't do it, I'll just do it. Right. We will kill you with fire. But, like, for some of the, obviously, I mean, it depends.
Starting point is 00:48:31 Like, I've seen some sad lines, you know, where it's like, oh, wow, I don't know. Because, like, a lot of them, like, their deal is like, you're getting a small appearance fee. And your hope is that you will set. enough personal pictures and stuff like that because you have to pay for all those or whatever that's what i wanted to know but they do get they do get paid just to be there but it's like a small amount and it depends on who the person is because there's some people's like staying is always going to get a big amount because there's going to be people who come to the convention specifically for sting and then spend money on a bunch of other stuff and then there's some people who it's like okay listen
Starting point is 00:49:06 you're not a huge draw so we can't give you a bunch of guaranteed money but what we can do is we'll give you a bigger percentage of your own like sales. So we're going to put you up here. And then if you, if people get here and they decide to buy a VIP pass to see rest in peace Virgil, then then you can have more of that money or whatever. But like some of them, you could definitely tell that they were like, goddamn, this line better be big, this better work out. And there were some of them where it was just like they, they were okay. They just wanted to meet. They really liked meeting the fans. Like Stan Hanson for instance. Drew, you might remember Stan Hansen from back in the day. He was the cowboy character always had tobacco coming out of his mouth he's huge in japan he's like a guy gin
Starting point is 00:49:45 you know over there and um he genuinely just like he enjoyed meeting people because i talked to him between people and he's like this is great he's like i can't wrestle anymore he's like but i still like people they come up and they tell me these stories of like i saw you at the coliseum and so many he goes and it keeps me young and like i appreciate these people because they've made me who i am but again there's some of them who like ted de biazzi was a sad motherfucker and And I only said that because he was a dickhead to me. And this was before the Mississippi stuff, by the way, which is why when the Mississippi stuff happened,
Starting point is 00:50:18 it was so easy for me to be like, fuck that motherfucker. Of course he's a dickhead. Mississippi stuff. He was involved in the Brett Farr? Yeah, yeah, it was Brett. So he was actually, DeBiase's son,
Starting point is 00:50:29 this is the only reason that Brett Favre has some sort of like plausible deniability is because it was actually DeBiasey's son who set up the whole thing. Like DiBiasey's son set up the whole thing and got Brett Fawke, he should not be able to deny it, Drew. Is that an Italian name? DiBiase, maybe. Sounds same spaghetti to me.
Starting point is 00:50:51 It seems spaghetti, yeah. Assuming it is, I'm going to say what I feel in my heart freely. That just sounds like the name of somebody who's going to rip you all. Couldn't agree more. It turns out that it's an actual minority's name. I apologize. And dude, DeBiase's whole thing was he was the million dollar man. He ripped everybody off.
Starting point is 00:51:06 Like, that was his whole character. But like, the reason that Farve had a little play. plausible deniability, aside from his brain rot or whatever, is that DeBiase's son was the one that orchestrated it all and then just approached those two about it. And some people were saying, like, yeah, well, they just sort of like, oh, signed off on it or whatever. But yeah, DeBiase was involved in that scam too, which, you know, again, couldn't be more in character of the million dollar man. I wish to God that they would have let me defend some of my clients back in the day who genuinely did not know that the fraud they were committing was fraud. I mean, just like,
Starting point is 00:51:38 What a thing? I know what you're saying, but it's like, well, I'm not defending it, by the way. The guy who told me to sign it and not to talk to anybody about it, including a lawyer, he said it was going to be fine when I agreed to defraud the government. Okay, you understand that I'm not defending Brett Farr, correct? But I've always felt like Drew and that, the guy that you're, this dude is talking about, the guy who convinced him to do that it, that should just be all him. Like, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:52:04 Well, it's like Rico, ain't it? It's like conspiracy. If you get, that guy's a conspiracy. brought in this dude, you know? So, right. It depends on what they did. If they lied to you, if they made it seem like it's going to be one thing when it was in fact another thing, that is absolutely a defense. But if it's just, I did this, but didn't know it was illegal.
Starting point is 00:52:25 There's three reasons that's not a defense. I didn't know I couldn't do that. Almost everybody would say that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. I forget the other two, plus I didn't want a ladybug jumped across my face and it stumped. Who jumped across your face in its tongue? A ladybug?
Starting point is 00:52:42 That's their neighbor there in Scott County. That's bug's wife, ladies' wife, ladybug, yeah. You know, bug, bug, bug. We had a guy named bug. You had a bug? No, of course, dude. There's a bug in my town and in Andy's town. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:58 Bug Ward, Rich, works on cars, in the racing, and then the bug here, poor, I don't know what he's into. Probably fine. Our bug, he found. I'm just saying, do y'all think, let's say you're one of the, I don't know, but I'm just assuming the guy from Commando again, I don't mean disrespect. I got what we wrote Commando. I'm just assuming that this guy, the conventions he goes to, I doubt he's the sting of these conventions. Of course not.
Starting point is 00:53:25 Because I don't even know who this dude is. So, like, and you said you've seen the other version of the other side of it, and it's like, and it's sad, right? And so it's like, do you, is that, so you get to go fishing. anytime you're at home as much as you want to or do wherever fuck you want. Then you go to these conventions and you sit there and you make a little bit of money and it's sad and people, there's not much of the line and it's sad or whatever. And it's like do all that versus trying to get a job at Costco and saying fuck at all. I mean, I guess it just like Drew said, it depends on if the money is the same.
Starting point is 00:53:59 If the money is the same at Costco, then I'd rather sit there and have people tell me I used to hit and take their picture with me, I guess. If it's a one-to-one comparison money-wise, I think I'm with Corey, but for different reasons, and it's just time to do with autonomy. You didn't give up. No, it's more like, have you guys had a boss? What's the last time you had someone telling you what to do? Every day, but mainly trade.
Starting point is 00:54:24 I mean, I haven't since, you know, 2016. Right, like, I don't want to work at Costco. Yeah, I'm not ever having a boss. Man, you're kind of annoying, but if you're annoying for 45 more seconds, I'll tell this guy to make you leave. Yeah. And then I'll go home and go fishing for three days. Versus like, you need to organize the tomatoes.
Starting point is 00:54:43 Yeah, I mean, I'll be organized my hands around your throat, you stupid bitch. Yeah, I mean, like, obviously at the Atlanta Journal Constitution, like, I technically, Constitution, yeah, I type, I don't say. I'm a reporter to the general consternation down there. Down there. I put the word on the paper sent then. I got my editor. thank God.
Starting point is 00:55:05 But yeah, but like, I have a boss there. Don't know who it is. I mean, I know the person that runs. Right. That's not really. That's the same thing. That's what I'm saying is like, yeah, and we've all had bosses like, you know, ABC was our boss or whatever. But like it is very much a different thing because like we're sent off to do our thing and we're independent contractor.
Starting point is 00:55:22 So that boss will only be our boss for not long for us, you know. That's the thing between I'm working for somebody and I have a boss. There you go. Yeah, true. And no, I couldn't do it. Like, I know that I couldn't do it. I'd take less money. I mean, arguably, for the last year, I did take less money.
Starting point is 00:55:40 I don't know. I'd have to do the math compared to being an attorney. I've taken less money to just be at home with my kid and just fuck a rent. Like, there's a lot of, like, money is important, obviously, but there's a lot more things in life that are more important. But, like, I mean, we've all had this conversation pre-hit. Trey, are you thinking about embarrassment? Is that like part of what you're getting me?
Starting point is 00:56:00 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was just about to take it there. But those people are at. the convention. Because I was going to say, they're embarrassing too. Corey said something a minute ago that made me realize, like, he's thinking,
Starting point is 00:56:09 he's not looking at the same way as me. When he goes, he goes, yeah, I think I'd rather sit there and let people tell me I hit for a few hours. It's like, you know, so he's like, yeah, that'd be cool,
Starting point is 00:56:18 people come up, you hit. I do hit. Rather than working at Costco, like, I'm thinking of the sad version of it. I'm thinking of the sad version of it. You used to hit.
Starting point is 00:56:27 You used to it. You now don't. And it's all, it's very, very, very self-evident to everyone here that you don't. hit no more. Think about this though. Think about this. punched in the face by that. Every moment you're there. Okay. Let's go
Starting point is 00:56:39 back to your other one, right? You're working at Costco and somebody comes up being goes, hey, do you have this in a size 30? Weren't you in a command though? And then he goes, yeah, and they go, I'm going to still need those in the size 32. Ain't that worse? That's a good point, because this just happened. I didn't realize how many things I watched this week or saw this week
Starting point is 00:56:55 were relevant to this one conversation, but I got reminded also about one of the guys from the Cosby show got... I feel so bad. for them, man. Did syndication money. Took a picture of some paparazzo or whatever, realized this guy working at Trader Joe's bagging groceries at Trader Joe's
Starting point is 00:57:14 was a primary cast member from the Cosby show. I hope that got a picture of it and posted whatever. And that, you know, it's like Drew was saying earlier. It's framed as just like, you know, lost everything. Yeah, right. You know, follow it, but whatever. And like people were, it went viral at the time. And everybody's just like, God, this is so sad.
Starting point is 00:57:33 it's or whatever, you know, and the dude. Sadder than what, him being on the street. And the dude, you know, like, and he just wanted to just, you know, be left alone and not in it. Of course. That super didn't hit. Now, again, in the era we live, I further read that because that went viral and it got a lot of attention, I think he has since booked a few different, like acting roles.
Starting point is 00:57:56 And his maybe, you know. He took the picture himself, his manager on Twitter. Speaking of wrestling, you know that happened to our buddy Tony Chivani. Like that literal scenario right there happened to Tony Chivani. He was working at Trader Joe's and somebody saw him. Starbucks. So after WCW and stuff like folded, like Chivani was like, WWE was the only wrestling game in town.
Starting point is 00:58:19 Like used to there was like TNA and now we're getting back to where there's a lot more. But like when WCW folded, there weren't any other jobs. And Tony was doing like minor league baseball. And I'm not shitting on him. He proudly tells the story. and he started working at Starbucks, but like Tony ain't got, Tony's never had an ego.
Starting point is 00:58:35 Tony's a great dude and he was like, look, man, he's like, they offered me benefits. I got a management position. And then like, yeah, somebody went there,
Starting point is 00:58:42 some, God, my voice is going in. Some wrestling fan took the picture and was like, God damn, Tony Chivani, you know,
Starting point is 00:58:48 working at Starbucks. Like, what has happened? Well, immediately after that, like Conrad saw it. They started doing a podcast together, making a good bit of money.
Starting point is 00:58:56 And then Tony got back in the Zite guys. And now he's been the head. broadcaster for AEW since it started. So like that happened. But Tony was like, again, like Tony never felt any shame for it. As you fucking shouldn't,
Starting point is 00:59:09 by the way, for like, because Tony, because Tony, like, he didn't waller in misery. Like, he immediately was like,
Starting point is 00:59:15 I have to provide for my family. My kids are in college. You know, I'm going to go get this job of benefits. And like, that part of my life is over. Whatever, you know,
Starting point is 00:59:22 but like, you know, that shit be, it does happen. And I hate that it's framed that way. Because like, that guy, you know,
Starting point is 00:59:28 obviously, does it suck that that guy's dream of acting went away with the Cosby show? Sure, but like, he's just fucking making a living? Who is more shameful? That guy for working at Costco? Or are you making a living taking his fucking picture? You're saying a shit. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, but
Starting point is 00:59:42 a more pertinent to Trey's question is like, for you personally, what feels better or whatever like that? Or like, you know, well, I mean, the obvious one in our field is like making that hard right turn. You know, start, start, start,
Starting point is 00:59:58 Start going online and promoting your Patreon where you're telling everybody about lasers and buttholes that the Jews are creating or whatever because you can make millions apparently doing that. Imagine if you couldn't, though. I know. Imagine the guy that makes the turn and it don't work and now he's a four Nazi.
Starting point is 01:00:13 Bro. Just me. Kill yourself. I think that for me, if I'm honest, like I agree with everything y'all have been saying, but just in terms of being honest with myself, manager at Starbucks, someone takes a picture. I can't believe the dude from the well red tours, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 01:00:33 I'd be like a little embarrassed, but I'd also be like, I got a family and I'm the manager at Starbucks. I wouldn't be on the internet. Bagging groceries, I do think bagging groceries, it would be like, wow, this picture and it going out and people's disbelief in it really is reflective of how much I suck. Like that would be what I, that would be the conversation. He's probably old though, right?
Starting point is 01:01:00 Like he's probably old, maybe. It would be the inner monologue. Because, dude. Now, to be clear, if I was like going to, like, they'd catch me a court in a suit. And I, you know, I'd reply. Yeah, I woped, I wop to fucking prosecutors' ass that day. But I do think also the ego thing, I do think it would hurt. What if there's a thing?
Starting point is 01:01:20 I remind you of a hard decision you made. Of course. Right. Or the time you gave up for whatever. Yeah. If it was made for you, what if it's like there's an element of shame to it? Because I guess in that same Reddit thread where I saw all this stuff. I saw that fucking Army Hammer, right?
Starting point is 01:01:34 Yeah. That he, like, he himself said that he's, A, you know, he's named Army Hammer because he's from the Arm and Hammer Company and family and they're billionaires, but they completely disowned them entirely and have nothing to do with them anymore. And also, you know. He had a weird king? All he did was talk about eating people. never did it. I don't get it.
Starting point is 01:01:57 So his family disowned him completely, and Hollywood's, you know, blacklisted, ever, whatever. And apparently he was a, he was a waiter on cruise ships. He was waiting tables on cruise. That's what he said. I mean, I believe him. And now. Honestly, respect. He also, again, did he say that, knowing that people would have talked about it?
Starting point is 01:02:15 Now it's back of the, because now he's trying to do a comeback to, you know, so I don't know. I'll be honest with you. The only way I'd ever tell you I worked as a waiter on a cruise ship is if I was a waiter on a fucking cruise ship. That's me, person. personally, but you know. This goes back to Zuckerberg. And I guess that is kind of what got us started here.
Starting point is 01:02:32 If you have an ego that desires these very egotistically driven things, but you are able to put it aside in terms of your image in order to achieve it, that is a type of craziness where you probably would eat a person. I bet he eats people. All I know is the only ego I have is like, especially now, is like, I just got to make sure that my boy has money so that he can live. And right now, comedy does that. even though I've taken like, you know, I've stopped doing several things that made me a lot more money so that I can.
Starting point is 01:03:02 But like, I mean, I don't, obviously, if it all dried up, I'd have to do something and like, yeah, I would sting, but I'd do it. And I wouldn't feel bad because now my ego is wrapped up and being a dad. But like, I don't know, it's like that when we used to pre-hit, Trey would always be like, when are you going to, we would always talk about it. Like, when will you know, like, what age will you be when you realize, like, I'm not going to make it. And I always said, I was like, I don't think I'll ever hit that eight because I won't, I'll always. just assume it's just right in the corner and that's just sort of my attitude is like you see that meme of that dude like digging you know and he stops digging and you see the other panel and it's like right there was the fucking gold you know what i mean and i do have that attitude but as soon as it gets in
Starting point is 01:03:43 the way of my kid being able to have a house i'd let it go you know yeah well on that heavy note i think it's about time we get out of here we're about an hour and everybody i can't talk so that hits but i want So as always, plug and stuff, come save me. Also, an announcement of sorts. I'll be in Austin, Texas at the end of March, which is very soon. That was, we messed up on my end and just are just now announcing that. So please tell all your friends and also, if you're just here in the Austin area, come to those shows because normally I would announce that way, way much further in advance.
Starting point is 01:04:23 But yeah, at the end of March, before then, I got Florida and many. Minneapolis and in the northeast, all of which can be found at Trey Crowder.com. And then in April, I'll be in Knoxville and Chattanooga. And Drew will be with in Knoxville and Chow would be with in Chattanooga. So obviously, those will be fun. So check them out. Come see us. Drew?
Starting point is 01:04:42 Listen to Gravy, baby, my podcast with the illustrious DJ Lewis and the wonderful Carmen Morales. She's going to be furious. I try to do the accent and fucked it up. She'll hear this. I'll be with Trey on the 11th, on the 12th. 12, I'll be in Nashville at the Lab and Zanis as part of the Nashville Comedy Festival. And that's it. I don't have anything on the books anytime soon.
Starting point is 01:05:04 After that, I'm kind of taking it easy for a month or two. Like Trace said, I'm with him in Chattanooga. And also, March 20th, I'm going to be at the punchline in Atlanta with my good friends, Good Cop, Radcop. Some of you, by the way, just saw us together in Charleston. I appreciate y'all coming to that show because I also announced that very last minute. So I appreciate y'all for coming. but yeah, March 20th,
Starting point is 01:05:26 Punchline Atlanta, Corey Ryan Forster.com, and go to we lovecori.com for my bonus stuff. I'm not singing, guys. If y'all want to, that's great. Otherwise, we'll get the fuck out. Thank you y'all for listening to The Well Red Show. We'd love to stick around longer, but we got to go.
Starting point is 01:05:41 Tune in next week. If you got nothing to do, thank you, God bless you. Good night and Skew. Skew. We're going to get drunk and we're going to talk a lot. Dress through fast, sex with family. putting on airs
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