wellRED podcast - Evening Skews - July 23, 2020

Episode Date: July 28, 2020

This is the audio from the July 23 edition of Trae's new political internet talk radio show, Evening Skews, wherein he and co-host Mark Agee discuss everything from Trump's stupid brain and the stupid brain test he's so proud of, to the Right's fervent hatred of AOC, to defense spending and everything in between. Evening Skews is recorded live from Trae's Facebook page every Tuesday and Thursday at 6 PM Pacific time. From now until we decide something different, the audio from these shows will be posted here on the WellRED feed, alongside the regular every-Wednesday dick-and-butt spectacular that you know and love as the WellRED Podcast. Enjoy. 

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So cancel your unwanted subscriptions or reach your financial goals faster with RocketMoney. Go to RocketMoney. dot com slash well read today that's rocket money.com slash well r e d rocketmoney.com slash well read and we thank them for sponsoring this episode of the podcast. Hey there. Well Red Nation. It's Trey. Heidi, howdy. How you doing? I just want to do get on here and let you know what you're about to listen to if you should so choose to listen to it. It's a new little project of mine called Evening Skews, wherein I talk about all the crazy bullshit that goes on in our crazy bullshit country on a bi-weekly basis.

Is that bi-weekly? Is bi-weekly every two weeks or is that twice a week? Either way, I do this twice a week. I do it every Tuesday and Thursday, and I do it live, record it live, on my Facebook page. So all my lovely Facebook followers can interact with us. I do it with my co-host, the venerable Mark Agey, who is a former journalist, current comedy writer, and obsessive news junkie. He's one of those people that's always up on both the regular news and also whatever crazy conspiracies the internet is up to at any given time. He just seemed like the right guy to dive into these waters with.

And so far we're feeling pretty good about it. It's pretty straightforward in terms of format. whatever kind of shit has gone on in America we just we get into it

we talk about it break it down from our perspectives and we get some comments from the audience and interact with

people and all that good stuff but we've been doing it for a couple weeks now we've had four or five

episodes so far I do believe and we're pretty happy with how it's going and the response has been pretty positive

so I wanted to open it up to more platforms than just only on my Facebook page. That way people can listen to it, you know, if they don't want to fuck with Facebook.

I sure as hell don't blame it if you don't want to fuck with Facebook. So I want to put it out in a couple of different avenues. So we're taking the audio from every episode from this point forward and releasing it to begin with right here on the well-read podcast

channel. So the well-read podcast will still come out every Wednesday. Nothing changes there. Come to us for all your all your butt and donkey basketball and bullshit like that needs we got you covered nothing's changing on the well-red podcast front me and corey and drew but also every week um at least for the next little bit i will be posting the episode the audio from the episodes of evening skews and then eventually may move it to its own channel may not it just kind of depends you know depends on how it goes but um if you ain't

into this shit if you're here for the uh if you're here for the butts and the donkeys that's fine i don't blame me just listen listen to the well-read podcast when it comes out and skip right over this bullshit but if you want to hear me run my mouth about topical goings on with my buddy smart mark then um well then here you go this is a show for you evening skews this is the first one to be posted as a podcast and it was recorded on july 23rd was july 23rd edition of evening skews and there will be more to come. I sure hope y'all enjoy it. All right.

Let's get started. All right. I'm laboring under the impression that we are live here. So welcome back to evening skews, everybody. Trey Crowder here with Mark Agee and a little mashup we had going there. What was that, Mark? Nappy Roots. Yeah, Nappy Roots matched the cover Dixieland Delight.

And I always dug it. Yeah, yeah. Trello musical intros here for that dead air with that three minute period we're not sure whether we're on Facebook or not. I'm still trying to find the damn actual page right now.

It's so ridiculous that it is this difficult to do this. But just so you all watch and know, every time we actually go live, I have to then go and find the actual video on the page. It doesn't take me directly to it. So I'm sorry that I open every show

like an idiot, but I'm just, you know, I'm trying to get better. But we're here now all got queued up now and uh mark tonight tonight we're starting with a uh fun little video let me get it get it shared here i don't know you know who couldn't enjoy this let's see share the sound too here we go yes i said to the to ronnie jackson i said is there some kind of a test and a cutie test and he said there actually is and he named it whatever it might be and it was 30 or 35

questions the first questions are very easy the last questions are much more difficult uh like a memory question it's uh like you'll go person woman man camera tv so they say could you repeat that so i said yeah so it's person woman man camera tv okay that's very good if you get it in order you get extra points. Okay, now he's asking you other questions, other questions, and then 10 minutes, 15, 20 minutes later, and say, remember the first question, not the first, but the 10th question, give us that again. Can you do that again? And you go, person, woman, man, camera, TV. If you get it in order, you get extra points. Extra points, Mark. Who doesn't like extra points?

The extra points think it's so funny because like whether or not you have dementia is sort of past, fail, right? Yes, right. And that's the, that's the, so everybody doesn't know what to unpack here. Obviously, Trump's very proud of himself, proud of the score he got on a test that he had taken. And that test is the Montreal Cognitive Assessment exam, which is, a test given a screening test intended to assess cognitive impairment or early dementia. It's not an IQ test. It's not an aptitude test. It's meant only to determine whether or not you have the basic minimum cognitive requirements to be a competent adult. So any positive score on this test is not indicative of supreme, stable genius intelligence. but just rather that your brain isn't literally riding. But Trump has bragged publicly on multiple occasions,

now at least three times publicly, about just how much he knocked this test out of the waters. He scored a perfect 30 out of 30. And according to him, everyone present told him that's very rare. It's a very rare person who can score a 30 out of 30 on this test. But that is not true. the opposite result would be much more rare.

I mean, I'll give me a little bit of credit. I went and looked at the test and my first thought was, some of these would take me a minute. Like, draw a clock where it's 10 minutes after 11. That might take that. I don't know. I might miss that one. I didn't think about that one for a minute because I haven't looked at an analog clock

and so long, you know, I don't know. Maybe I need to turn in my driver's license. But the whole thing is, so funny. I always wonder what like normal people think Trump's talking about because the whole thing started people online make fun of him for having dementia and he sees it and gets mad about it and goes out and says

I do not have dementia and so everyone who's not you know spending all day reading Twitter doesn't even know what he's talking about except here's a man randomly proclaiming he doesn't have dementia but like he's self-owned into this because he talked about it so much the reporters started writing stories seriously

questioning his mental health because he's doing it backwards. You don't, you don't take a dementia test because people aren't worried you have dementia. So he introduced into the conversation. Exactly. That's the whole thing. The fact that like even taking this specific test at all in the first place is not something that I feel like most politicians would openly brag about, but he cannot help but openly brag about everything. This included. He had an interview with Fox News is Chris Wallace. That's where that's what that was from. And Chris Wallace had also taken the test. And he said in the interview, Chris Wallace said, let's be honest, it's not the hardest test.

And Trump responded, well, yeah, the first few questions are easy. Sure. But I bet you couldn't even answer the last five questions. It gets much more difficult. They get very hard the last five questions. Some of those last five questions that he's referring to include naming the time and place that you are in, as well as repeating a series of words you were asked to remember earlier, which is what he was talking about.

And according to Chris Wallace, one of them was, identify this picture and it's an elephant. So, yeah, it's not trigonometry, advanced calculus. It's,

even his example, his example of the five words was so funny because he listed things he was looking at. Looking at, right. Yes. It's like brick for anchor man, you know,

I love lamp. Trump is the I love, Trump is the I love lamp president. He's like, it could be anything. It could be anything. Let's just say like, it's a computer.

sun mirror door camera that type of thing yeah yeah per person woman man camera tv where things are all right in front of his face and the uh i don't know the whole i love i love the reporters during all this stuff because like like he's too he's doing it again because when he talked about it on sunday which was totally unnecessary uh that went viral because it looked bad because he was like the question's so hard and chris was goes it's count it actually count backwards from a hundred by sevens and he goes well you couldn't do it and Chris Wallace goes 93. 93. It's like you just subtracted seven and it made it look dumb and I went viral so he comes back out again and goes no no the credit test is actually really really hard

and then the reporter has to stand there they kept cutting back to the reporter trying to look supportive and not concerned and also not amused but it sees all three and the whole thing's silly yes the whole thing is silly the other another minor part of it is he is now for some reason maybe his brain is the reason, started saying that he took it recently. I guess because he thinks that people can't try to like, you know, have a gotcha moment where they're like, oh, yeah, but you took that test two years ago.

So maybe you should take it again because now he started saying that it was definitely within the last year. While also saying he was administered by Dr. Ronnie Jackson, who hasn't been in that position since 2018 when he actually took the test. So it's like he's not. he's like incapable of not lying and being wrong about at least something at all moments in time.

Right. Like, yeah, he's trying to challenge Joe Biden to like, to, I guess to take the test at the same time side by side and compare the test results, which is right. So,

so bleak, man. Yeah, no, right. Exactly. Exactly. That's what I was about to say. Like, man,

what a horrific, uh, scenario to envision just as an American, our two presidential can, and it's not like this is a set up thing that's happening or anything, but just this is what Trump wants to happen. The idea of our two presidential candidates squaring off in a public dementia test is just, well, that's 2020 in a nutshell right there. But again, it's not like, it's not like Biden doing this or anything. It's just all the shit that Trump is talking. Yeah. And like Biden or whoever writes his tweets essentially, You read the subtext, the response to this was like, yeah, it's not about whether I have dementia, bro.

It's about 140,000 people dead and everybody losing their jobs, which is the subtext of that is like, it doesn't matter if I have dementia because I'm a figurehead for a bunch of competent middle managers. So, yeah. Right. And you said, what matters is all the people sick, dying, and everybody losing their jobs, but try explaining that to not just Trump, but also the GOP Congress, because not moving any faster on that new recovery plan and don't seem overly concerned about it. Here's a tweet from Manu Raju that says,

GOP senators did not talk about their recovery plan at lunch, but did discuss the eccentric menu that John Kennedy put together. Kennedy said they had alligator sausage, bell peppers stuffed with beef and shrimp, and crab bisque. Quote, it's very tasty and it will make you regular. that's nice to know yeah it's not going to be regular rent it's just it's such a it's such a like things like this always blow my mind because it's like i don't expect better from them i really don't like as people but i'm always kind of shocked at the lack of like awareness when it comes to how

something will play in the public sphere like you're a public figure and have been for years how do you not know any better than to just openly engage in a moment like this? It's such a Marie Antoinette, let them eat cake thing, which if anybody says, I know that's a miss. She didn't actually say that. That has been made clear to me. But in principle, it's the same kind of idea, you know, let them eat alligator sausage is what they're saying. Yeah. Yeah.

And their proposals are like, they did turn down Trump. Trump's idea, all he wanted to do is a payroll tax, which really only helps people who are currently working and only a little bit, payroll tax cut. But they're talking about cutting the $600 a week to $400 a month. So I don't think they have any idea what things cost. There's like, there's like a real downside to having your entire government run by 75 year old millionaires. Right. Absolutely. But wait, well, no, I refuse to give them credit for almost anything. but I did find this very weird. They did accomplish something.

They don't only eat alligator sausage and talk shit, apparently. They passed a big defense spending bill, which of course I did. So the only bills that can ever get passed. But this one is a little different because this defense spending bill has a nice little nugget written into it by Elizabeth Warren, which requires, the measure would kick off. a process forcing the Pentagon to scrub names, monuments, and paraphernalia honoring the Confederacy and its leaders from military bases and assets over the next three years. So it's your standard defense spending bill with the budget and all that, but it includes an earmark that requires the

Pentagon to go through the process of purging the names of Confederate generals and leaders from bases and all of our, you know, military operations. So, you know, small. all victories, taking where you can get them, right? Yeah, and the only reason bases are named

after those dudes in the first place is because they, uh, the rush to World War II was so fast, they need a local support to get defense spending bills passed

to get the, to get the bases built quickly. And, uh, Republicans at the time were slightly more hesitant to go to war than, uh, Democrats because they had like,

uh, you know, the, the Charles Lindberg, America First branch, which is kind of like Hitler and also just didn't want to spend money in another world war in Europe. Uh,

and so, like putting in their hometown and naming it after a local luminary such as Braxton Bragg who not only was a sliver and a Confederate but also a terrible general who only got his ass kicked. So it was like no reason to name the Ford after. I mean, no one even cares with a, none of the dudes doing basic training there and know who Braxton Bragg is. No. I mean, dude, honestly, I'll be honest with you, I didn't. I got a lot of bodes that joined the military. A lot of them were at Fort Bragg. Fort Bragg's a very prominent military base. And I didn't know until this.

I mean, I'm not surprised. It's a military base in North Carolina. But I didn't know who it was named after. I didn't know the backstory. I didn't know it was that asshole. So like, you know, just name it something else. Yeah. One funny part about it to me is it passed at 8416, I think.

It's 86 to 14. I was actually just about to ask you about what you think about that. Because, yes, it didn't just pass. It passed overwhelmingly. It passed in the 86 to 14 blowout. in the Senate and also this bill, particularly that measure of this bill, had been openly opposed by Donald Trump, right? But it passed with a veto-proof super majority.

So what, how much can we read into that, Mark, in your opinion? Like, how much does that mean? He voiced his displeasure with this piece of legislation. And even with the GOP-controlled Senate, it passed by a massive margin. Does that, how much does that mean? I mean, it's not a very popular fight right now to be on, to be on the wrong side of to, uh,

right, defending those guys and the names of the forts, especially because the army and the defense department's already said they want to change them. And, um, they're going to change them anyway. All the bill would do was remove funding for those bases if they didn't change

them. So it's not really going to matter, but politically like Trump had threatened to veto it, uh, the whole bill. So they probably, they probably just made a veto proof to try to save him from attack head saying he vetoed him.

military pay raise in an election year? Yeah. So you don't, I figure it's probably something like that, something a little more just explicitly political, where it's like, you know, it's a defense spending bill overall. We don't need to be, you know, getting locked up over something like this in terms of optics. And if it's going to pass anyway, then it should pass with a veto proof majority just to keep him from drag. Just to keep him from getting this mired down and some bullshit over it.

But like, do you think there's any kind of element of them, them being the GOP in Congress and in power, sort of like mentally moving on from him? Is that wishful thinking? Like, do you think they're starting to ride him off at all or giving less of a fuck about, you know, his positions on things or threats he makes or anything like that? Or is it just this bill has its own reasons?

Yeah, I mean, You can't really read too much. You'd think for their own job prospects, they'd want, I mean, obviously they want them with us fight to go away because they don't want to have to have it. And also, like, we talked about last show, I think, but them not being in any hurry to save the economy seems like they're kind of like telling them to screw off.

But a lot of them are up for election, too. So I don't really understand what their move. It doesn't seem to be based in any sort of reality, which might be a problem. Right. Yes. But again, the end result is still seemingly a positive thing. Of course, even in this, you know, but this is true with any defense spending budget we ever passed.

There's looking at it from my perspective, still quite a bit of bloat in there. Go ahead. Oh, sorry. Yeah, there were like, there was a significant push to try to cut their budget by 10%. By Bernie Sanders. Yeah. And I think they got, what, 30 votes for that? 23 to 77 vote against.

Only 23. That's depressing. I mean, like, look, we got a military. You give your numbers, and I want to say something after that. I was just talking about the bloat that is still in this. There's $9.1 billion in the bill to buy 91 Lockheed Martin built F-35 fighters, which is 14 more than we're even requested by the Pentagon. And I guarantee you approximately 91 more than we are in desperate need of at this moment. That means there's going to be 91.

and I'm ignorant about actual airplanes, but y'all understand what I'm saying here. This is going to be 91 F-34 fighters, again, I know that's not how it works, that are sold off or put in storage or somewhere that are still perfectly operational. And also $21 billion for seven new warships for the Navy, which is an increase of $1.4 billion from the Navy's request.

So even the military branches, which, you know, make opulent budgetary, request in this bill we're given in excess of what they even asked for. So, you know, pretty part for the course. They love jobs programs, but only when they're run by the Defense Department. Right. It's a, I mean, the F-35 is, you can go read the history of it. It's absolutely, it's been in development for like 40 years.

It's a waste of, waste of everybody's time and money. And like the whole concept of a joint strike fighter is just because we don't need fighter planes anymore is to go, they turn, fighter jets and the bombers. And so, like, we have, the B-502 still work perfectly, by the way,

but now we've got a billion-dollar stealth fighter jets. They drop one bomb and then fly back. And, like, the whole design of the military where, like, the Navy has its own army. That's the Marines. The Army has more boats than the Navy. The Army has its own Air Force. So the Navy of its own Air Force.

The Air Force has commandos. So the Air Force has infantry. It's like, we only need one of these. ranches really. I don't know what you're all doing. I should also say the measure also includes a 3% pay raise for the actual soldiers for the troops.

And, you know, so I'm all about that. I always wondered why Democrats don't run what actual people first, national. The fact, like, if we're going to live in a hellhole where we can we can only invest money in the Army, you should at least like try to steal

some of their votes by being like, we're putting pause on weapons development systems and we're going to invest in people. So new GI Bill, all you guys are getting 40% raises and we're giving you better base housing, better health care, rebuild the VA, you know, paying for college again, all that kind of stuff instead of an F-35. Ace Woods commented, we can't afford to feed everyone or give everyone health care, but we can waste money on big expensive toys. We won't really be using what the actual fuck. And I mean, yes, I agree with that.

It's always the thing. It's like anytime any kind of like welfare program ever gets proposed, they always talk about where's the money going to come from, how we're going to fund this, you know. But every single time, well, maybe not literally every single time, but in most of those instances, you could fund the entire program in excess with just a fraction of what they, you know, spend on our defense budget every year,

which is something like 20 times the next closest. country or something like that. But that's always been a complete political non-starter, at least in recent history. It's kind of funny, like, how Americans have this vague sense that we're the best and we're the most powerful, which we are. But we don't have any sense of the scale of it, really. That like when the reason other countries are afraid of us is like, like, we were able to invade Afghanistan from 6,000 miles away.

Like, we can, we can fly. a bunch of MRAPs over there, drop them off, keep them fueled and keep the men fed. That's an amazing military logistical feat that no one else in world history can do. Like, China could not invade us. They have like one aircraft carrier. You know what I mean? Like they couldn't get people here. And they're the second, they're the other most powerful country in the world.

And I don't like, it's just, we're able to be scared by the weirdest boogeyman that the fact, like, Iraq was the, in 1993, whatever, was the third most powerful military in the world. And we beat them in like three days. Right. Yes. Yeah. It's completely superfluous. Jim Gray said, let's compare the amount the government has spent on corporate welfare to individual welfare. Another great point. It's completely true. Everybody that opposes welfare seems to be completely okay with corporate welfare. You know, the majority of Walmart employees are on food stamps. So it's essentially the government paying the salary of Walmart's employees. for them, which means Walmart is on food stamps. And Walmart, speaking of the military, I don't know if it's still true, but when I was in college, I did a case study on Walmart. And at the time, the number one largest employer of human beings on the planet was the U.S. Department of Defense.

Number two was the Chinese Department of Defense. And number three was fucking Walmart. But yet they are essentially on food stamps, which is ridiculous. I would say this. real quick. Richard J. Sarki's senior said, so what's the over under on beard strokes tonight? Yeah, we both do that a lot, huh? Yeah, yeah. If you got one, you got to stroke it. I'm going to set it at 100 and you can safely take the over, I'm saying. I'm legally forbidden from going to my beard guy, my man. I can't, I got nothing but to grow up this easy top shit. A couple weeks ago, I found out my wife,

Trimit. She used her dog grooming kit. I was a very good dog. my buddy what I was going to say is like we're talking about the jobs programs that's what all this defense spinning is is corporate welfare it's just like I understand

there's a reasoning I mean I don't think we need as much national defense as we are but there is a logic I don't know I disagree with it but trying to keep Lockheed and bowling all these companies in business between wars

for when in case we need them but you could just in theory save a bunch of money by paying them to do nothing and just be at work ready to go and not actually make anything and save them parts at least. But, you know. Terry G. Lee said,

apparently they're going to, apparently they'll try to use their new toys on peaceful protesters. Frank Ropeppy said they will be sending those F-35s to Portland next. So on the last episode, we talked about the situation in Portland with the, the paramilitary secret police, the Trump stopo. They sent up there abducting regular protesters all that. I made a liberal redneck video. about it yesterday, but in between then and now, they've officially announced they're going to deploy those, that same force to Chicago, right? And then presumably insert liberal American

city here after Chicago. The forces they're using, I mean, this isn't sustainable because they're not that big. They don't have enough to go to every city. And, uh, federal law enforcement it's too big but it's not big enough to like put boots in the ground in every American city it's just it's just not um and uh the F-35 attack in Portland's funny

because it's like you need a stealth you need a stealth joint strike fighter to get past antifa's air defenses I guess yeah yeah which is just like um a bunch of crows with bottle rockets strapped to their backs where there's some guys in his rooftop

farm he's got a pigeon coops up there. That's Antifa's Air Force. Like, I got it. Antifa both does and doesn't exist, right? Right. There are people who call themselves Antifa. They're no sort of organized group because, hypothetically speaking, let's say you're a person who thinks America is defending rapidly into fascism has to be resistant violently.

Do you put your name on a membership list of such an organization to fight back against it? I think not, right? Right. So what it is is a series of like Twitter accounts and Discord channels or whatever where they announce places people should go if they want to fistfight Nazis. And also, a lot of those Twitter accounts and places on the internet have since been proven conclusively to have been operated by, you know, hardcore conservatives, alt-right Nazis, whatever, just to, you know, keep people afraid of Antifa.

Yeah, right. Antifa, yes, you said it. It both does and does not exist, but it does not at all exist in the form in which they always talk about it, right? That is all complete bullshit. And the reasons conservative hate them, conservatives hate them and want to, you know, paint them as a violent group that

should not be listened to or respect it. Because a lot of what they do is online. What they, like anonymous is like the online arm of Antiva. And mostly what they do is hack subscriber lists and donation lists

for like white supremacist groups and then cross reverence in with people who work for police departments and school districts and out people who work in public service jobs who are out and out white supremacists. That's why they hate them is because they're getting a lot of Nazis fired. So where the

Trump stopo is concerned, do you think there's, I've seen online commenters hypothesize that part of what they want to happen is an escalation of violence, people like getting more

outwardly violent against these paramilitary troops maybe resulting in somebody getting shot or killed the idea that that would be a good thing for Trump or that that's one of their end games with this is to have that happen so they can then stoke the fires of fear even more

also justify like, see, that's why we're there because they're crazy and violent when obviously they're inciting the violence to begin with. Like how much of that you think is a factor in what they're doing right now? That's the insanity of it.

It's not working. Like they've already ran the play. They've already ran the play and it's back. It's now they're running it harder. It's like a very football coach mentality. It's like I know we're down three touchdowns in the fourth quarter, but if we just keep running the ball, we'll eventually get back in it.

It's like they're just, this is the political version of doing that. And I don't see the public's already made their mind on upon this. And they think that police have overreacted. And that's, that's pretty firmly entrenched at this point. So, uh, I don't know, I don't know what would change. Somebody would, they have to be like organized, like organized, like, organized terroristic violence. Like, like a, like something like would happen.

communist factions in Europe in the 80s where they started blowing up cop cars and stuff. It had to be like that. Right. I think. All right. So moving on, a little bit of movement

in the whole Jeffrey Epstein, Gisland, Maxwell, you found out how she actually pronounces her name. What did you say? It's Galane. Galane. It's one of those weird average names

that has extra letters in it. So in the, it's Jeffrey Epstein, Galane, Maxwell, debacle. A federal judge has ordered that a number of documents, civil court documents related to Galane Maxwell will be unsealed next week.

They waited one week to give Maxwell's lawyer's time to file an appeal to the decision. But the judge said that the public's right to see the documents far outweighs Maxwell's right to avoid being embarrassed by their contents because apparently that was a big part of Gilane Maxwell's lawyers' arguments to keep the record secret because they said, quote, this series of pleading concerns to compel Ms. Maxwell to answer intrusive questions about her sex life are extremely personal, confidential, and subject to considerable abuse by the media. So essentially, her lawyers are saying, like, we're worried about the damage this could cause to Gilane Maxwell's reputation in personal life if these documents are unsealed.

It's like, I got some bad news for y'all, buddy. And I know lawyers have to argue something. But like this one in particular is just so ridiculous to me. Like, yeah, you think this is going to make her look bad publicly? Oh, wow. Have you Googled your client? There's way worse stuff out there about her. Right.

Um, the, uh, yeah, I mean, this, it's, this, those whole things, both evil and a farce, right? Right. Uh, so, um, they, I mean, the government's been fighting this role. It's going to be really embarrassing for the Department of Justice because they really, they, I don't know people remember the origins of this, but like, the, uh, local authorities in Palm Beach, West Palm Beach, I think had Epstein dead to rights for like, like, uh, assaulting 27 girls, I think. And the federal government swooped in, the U.S. attorney swooped in, filed a superseding

indictment of much lesser charges and gave him one year in prison than he got out to protect whoever. That's the same. Trump made that guy as labor secretary, that U.S. attorney. Yeah, well, Trump also, Trump talked about this thing with Maxwell. He talked about Gilein Maxwell specifically recently. and he literally said, I just wish her well, frankly,

and said that he's met her numerous times over the years, and he wishes her well. And a remark that was roundly criticized by a number of people, including Mooch, Anthony Scaramucci, who you may remember from his brief stint as the White House Communications Director a few years ago,

and Mooch tweeted, she has the goods on him. He is signaling, please don't talk. I don't know how much you can read into almost anything that Trump says, but just, again, as any kind of politician, I just, I don't know how you don't arrive at a more reasonable response to a question about this like, you know, the world's most famous pedophile supervillain who's still alive and in the public eye, how you don't come up with a

better response to her situation than, yeah, I wish her well. Like, it's not hard to not say that. Yeah, it doesn't even connect to the subject matter anyway. I'd be like, how do you feel about John Wang Gacy? It'd be like, Aloha. Right. Well, they, they, well, the White House spokeswoman Kaylee McKinney told Fox News that she clarified and said, no, what the president was noting is that the last person who was charged in

this case ended up dead in a jail sale, and he doesn't want that to have to have. happened to Maxwell because he wants justice to be served in court. And I'm sure that is in fact exactly what he meant by that. Yeah. Yeah, why not? I mean, I don't think people, I don't know what, but don't talk thing. Like, it is, it's such a, I feel like he'd have a better way to get a message to her. I mean, he could just have his lawyer call her lawyer. You know, I don't, I don't think he needs to go into the, right. I mean, the smart move from somebody who wanted to get away with it, would go in to go in the press room and blast her, but through back channels, Taylor, don't worry about it. I got you.

Yep. So moving on here to the GOP's absolute favorite woman in America, her Royal Highness Miss AOC, she had a little run-in with GOP opposition this week when Representative Ted Yoho, a Republican from Florida, had an altercation with AOC on the state. steps of the Capitol building because she had said, well, Mark explained this place. All right.

So like so many things in our country, so much of our discussions dominated by whatever weird meme is dominated, is on rare media that day. So crime rates are up in the last month in New York. Now, one month is not a trend. No one knows whether it's because of the arrest they make as the protest or whether more other crimes are happening because of the protest or whether police are doing that Ferguson effect thing that kind of go on strike and don't do their jobs to throw a fit or no, but anyway, people are talking about how crimes up in New York. So AOC made the point that, well, also as a terrible recession going on and crime always goes up when people need food to eat, basically. And Ted Yoho responded to this by when he passed her in the halls of Congress arguing with, with her about it briefly and then called her a fucking bitch. Yes.

So that became yesterday's big flap. Because we don't talk about actual issues in this country. We talk about interpersonal soap opera type, you know, reality show stuff. And not because anything she did, it's not her fault. Just that's what reporters wanted to talk about yesterday. So Yoho eventually went on the floor of Congress and did that as a father of daughter's thing about apologizing the American people for his language,

didn't really apologize to her. So she gave a big speech today where she basically said, I don't care about your apology, but here's why it's what you did. It was wrong. It's a bad example. And we're Congress people and we should behave better and that women are treated like shit. She phrased it much more eloquently than I could. But it's just like, I don't understand. This is a weird thing where like, do you remember like two years ago, whenever it was when Roseanne's life got in big trouble for being obsessed with Valerie Jarrett or whatever?

She said she had a joke about Valerie Jarrett looking like a, she compared her to a Planet of the Apes character. Valerie, I had to look up who Valerie Jarrett was, but Valerie Jarrett is very popular in right-wing discourse as a left-wing person. She was in Obama's White House because she's a boogeyman on Iran policies. They're obsessed with her.

And Roseanne, being a Jewish person, is a big Zionist. So that connects that dot. But like if you turn on like Fox News, they're talking about AOC like 12 hours a day. Buddy Amon, who was conservative, would randomly text me like twice a week's stuff AOC said that he thought I was stupid. Right. Be the most junior person in Congress. She's the youngest one of the youngest people. She just got elected one term.

She has no actual power except other than to Rose Pelosi on social media. That's it. It's like weird. She puts them on tilt so easily where this. guy who's been in Congress a long time is doing something he knows would get him in trouble. Yeah. And just can't resist it. Right.

Okay. Well, a couple things. Serve him back just a little bit, his whole apology as, you know, as a father of daughters. You know, you shouldn't do. Like, fuck all that. Like, I don't know how old his daughters are, but he's been a father of daughters for a long time, you know, and still opted to call her a fucking bitch in public. So obviously, that's bullshit, which everybody already knows. knows, but also it goes like that thing I was saying earlier about these guys and like the alligator

sausage and what Trump said about Maxwell and all this. Like, I, like, I don't understand how you don't, even if you are that asshole and they all are, I don't understand how you don't know any better than to not fucking do that in public. And it, and it, and it, and I, that's what you said. She just, they just lose control over her. She gets them so insanely riled up. and heated, like, they just lose control of themselves. And I think it's a few, I think it's a, I think it's a, it's a combination of things with her, all of which are, you know, pretty obvious. She's young.

She's a woman. She's a person of color. She's outspoken. She, they all, they, all those things, they're not into any of those things. Like they're, they're upset by any one of those things. You combine all those into one person. It really gets them going. But also, and I know how this is going to sound probably, but like sincerely, I think also they're like afraid of her.

Because I think they see her as like a representative of, you know, maybe what's coming. Because I remember when she was running for office, they, and it went viral. It was a pretty famous thing at the time. On Fox News, they had this graphic that outlined all of AOC's policies. And the point of it on Fox News and to Fox News's audience was like, look how much of an insane socialist, lunatic this girl is.

And every single bullet point on that list was something and I was like, yeah, it's a great idea and that's absolutely what we should do. Like it was completely reasonable if you're any kind of progressive. But they're terrified of her, I think, because I think they're worried that she, you know, represents the possible future.

They're all dying off and like this is what's coming is this and I think it I think it freaks him out. I think she scares them. I mean, it's just not worth living in a country where everyone can medicine tray. It's really just the worst possible world to live in. I mean, she's a very effective communicator for for left from politics in a way that like Bernie is, but his time's probably past. and so she she's good at she doesn't she doesn't care about money so she can't be bought so that makes the Democratic establishment mad at her and she doesn't care what you know

guys like Ted Yoho think of her so it's like right and a lot of people in the comments are saying you know yeah they they're afraid of her you can't be you would not be this vocal about AOC if you weren't afraid of her. Lynn Boyd-Burchfield said he didn't apologize. And you're right. I thought, we didn't mean to imply that he did apologize. He gave a like bullshit like kind of half-ass, not even an attempted apology, but like doing something. But you're right.

He didn't apologize. And again, what he said was bullshit anyway. So trust me. Yeah. I mean, AOC's whole thing was like, I'm not waiting. for your apology. I don't care. I don't need it. I'm aware they didn't apologize. I don't sure how to describe what he did is like filibustering, basically. It's that thing I'm well equating with how to do as a dude where you say, I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings kind of thing.

Right. But not from actual. Yes, right. No, it's not, I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings. It's usually, I'm sorry if you've got your feelings hurt. Yeah, yeah. It's your mistake. Right. It's your, it's your thing. And Louis, I think there's some, that some, that some had a bit about that, but yes, it's right. The implication is that it's your problem. It's unfortunate that you allowed your feelings to be hurt, but... Yeah. I'm sorry for you that your brain's so bad and weak that it got his feelings hurt

by the very correct thing I said. That's the implication. Stacey Bryant commented, It's nothing new that middle-aged white men cannot take an attractive young woman who also has brains and isn't afraid to use them at point blank range on Twitter in front of everybody. Constance Ferrari said, you left out that she's gorgeous. I don't know how it matters really, but there's an element of jealousy if you're talking

about conservative female news people, but like conservative female public figures. She is objectively pretty and that obviously factors into the attention. she gets into a significant degree. I mean, Fox News, the whole business model is built around. They have glass tables so you can see their anchors' legs and stuff. So they put her on TV because they can both make your ground. They can make your grandpa both horny and angry. And that's sort of like their target.

But like there's a thing. When she put out the Green New Deal, she made a joke. Like she tweeted it out was like, it's going to take it. It was about, you know, trains and fuel emission standards and green jobs and all stuff and then like she was like it's going to take us a bit longer to to uh get rid of airplanes and cows l-o-l and first step of that was they told their base that she's really going to try to ban planes and cows they actually started they actually started the seeming to believe it they really think she's going to go around and euthanize the cows and not letting me get on an airplane i don't

yeah they took our cows you can take my cows when you prying from my cold dead fingers god damn I'll be sitting in my yard, Gordon Macaule, my R-15 all night every night. They're going to take our cows. That's such a cartoonishly stupid thing for them to have gotten scared

about, but also very much in line. One more quick thing and then open it up to the commenters, see what they've got for us tonight. World of sports, sports are back in America. Obviously, NASCAR versions of golf have been around for a little bit, but the NBA just fired back up, also the MLB

recently. The NFL is still digging its head in the sand act. I'm like, yeah, it'll be fine, even though they don't seem to have any actual plan for how it's going to be fine. So I want to ask you just generally how you're feeling about all these separate attempts to open back up during the pandemic by the American sports organizations, Mark. But before you do, though, I want to, just because I enjoyed this, I want to show everybody, one of the factor of the MLB's playing. What they got, this is really exciting. Cutting edge technology

they've got here. You guys are going to love this. Even the way how far technology has come. We've got the wave. Got virtual fans doing the wave. It's like

those are like 2006 computer game characters. No, that's the that's the, that's the thing is like every child in America who has a video game console has had this technology on every standard sports video game for like 15 years. But Fox Sports is like, look at this, you guys aren't going to believe this. Look at it. They do the wave. It's like, you know,

it's, I don't know what they're going for. Trying to make someone feel more normal. most of them makes is like way more creepy. It's like just stands be empty. We all know there's a pandemic. We all know there's aren't real people. It's like plus it's creepy. It's that thing where it's like kind of close to reality, but it's a little far.

They made fun of this in 30 rock, but kind of polar express, that style of animation was like really close to being human, but also really far off because the eyes are dead. And it's a. Yeah, the uncanny valley. Yeah. So what do you think about the prospects of these,

different sports leagues actually getting through their season during COVID-19. I think the NBA bubble is actually going to work. I mean, working, like, I don't think they're going to have some massive outbreak where they're going to have to, like, shut down because they're doing what the government should have done.

Right. Disneyland and Orlando and New Zealand. Everybody's getting tested daily. And they're quick with contact tracing and with test results. and they're all, plus they're all young tipped-top athletes. They're typically not the people that are really affected by COVID in the first place. So I know what Major League Baseball is doing. They had like a big player test positive today and he's out for a couple weeks now.

And he's not symptomatic, but their testing protocol takes two days to get results. He was around his team for two days when he'd gotten it. I think he tested on Tuesday and results came back Thursday. That's not fast enough to stop it from spreading. But of course, that's not a contact. sport really. So at least outbreaks should be containing within teams, I would assume. I don't know. But they're still traveling. That's the thing is like

they're going to be, they're playing the actual home stadiums. Right. And then there's football, which is either going to fall apart immediately due to the pandemic or like lie somehow. And that like they don't have it. And a lot of those guys have underlying health conditions because they have to be artificially heavy to play their position. So you got a bunch of offensive linemen with sleep apnea and heart problems who could actually have serious complications from COVID.

Yeah. Yep. All right. So what do y'all got for us also? As a reminder, man, the two well-read guys, Corey and Drew,

are doing a live online comedy show where you can watch us on your computer with your pants off, whatever, do whatever you want. And if you're, You're into that, and if you're not, it's fine. You don't have to tell me how I'm not into it. You're not into it.

That's just okay. I'm going to pin a comment with links where you can get the tickets for that. Anyway, so we'll see what we got going over here. Let's see. I don't know if you know about this, Mark, so I'm not sure if I do. Acewood says, looks like the Ohio House speaker had some situation with bribery and money laundering up to $60 million. But, yeah, poor people are the problem in this country.

Yeah, what they did was, this is the rough beats the story. If I get some details wrong, just go read the news for yourself, but basically the speaker of the house, before he was speaker of the house, that he tried to push through a billion dollar subsidy for a nuclear power plant.

It didn't go. So what they did was they put $60 million in a super pack from to spend and get self-elect. ticketing elected speaker. So then they get pushed the bill through. A voter ballot initiative overturned it. And then they tried to read it. Anyway, they were pushing too hard for it to get their 60 to make sure they get to

give their 60 million. So they ended up getting everybody going to jail. That's fun. Yeah. We got some funny baseball comments over here. Stacey Lynn said, because you said you were talking about baseball and you're like, look, these are young tip-top athletes. They're not generally the most at-risk group.

I met NBA players. I will back Stacey Lynn up here because I remember as you were saying it, I also, I thought it was during the baseball part. So Stacey Lynn commented Kirby Puckett was an amazing baseball player, not a tip-top athlete. Yeah, you're right, Stacey. John Crook would definitely have died of great. I would die for not saying, not saying he wouldn't. Mark Bender commented, did you notice that Dr. Fauci even social distance the baseball he threw on the first pitch? hashtag science.

Yeah, if y'all didn't see it, it was pretty rough. He threw out the first pitch at the Nationals game. And, yeah, he hooked it a little bit. It wasn't close. But as you pointed out, we were texting about earlier, and you said, you know, it's a 79-year-old man. We can go easy on him. It's still funny, though.

Yeah, I mean, he's a 79-year-old nerd. So he probably, you probably would have thrown that way when he was 22. Okay. I'm going to drop. If anybody hasn't seen it, I'm going to drop a link. to the video in the doctor. All right.

Yeah. Okay. David, David Strolls commented. Obama didn't brag half as much about winning a Nobel Peace Prize as Trump has about passing that dementia test, which is, that's accurate.

Obama hated winning that Nobel Peace Prize. He didn't want it because he got it just for not being Bush. It was like his first year in office. So Stacey Atwell said, thanks for talking about Portland. it's crazy here. I wonder what you think might happen if these stormtroopers

head to other cities. We covered that a little bit earlier, but then she said, also, who are they hiring who's taking this job? Are these failed police recruits? And my understanding of it is, I think at least so far,

they're existing federal agents from a select number of agents. It's Department of Homeland Security, U.S. Marshals, and the border patrols, the last I saw. So like you were saying, like they're not, it's not really that,

they don't have that many of them readily available. So if they did want to roll them out to a bunch of other cities, they would have to do some kind of recruitment initiative or bring in law enforcement from elsewhere or something, which I mean, they could do. But as of now, that's the deal. There aren't that maybe we're not arguing about the recruitment policies.

And it was pretty, I mean, it's funny in that way that things are funny now, where it's just so, so ridiculous and sad and dark. But the, so Border Patrol, on if you remember, under Bush surged a lot. They, like, tripled their funding and their staffing. and they didn't have any actual standards. So when they actually implemented them, when they started doing stuff like a lot detector tests,

they started weeding out like 70% of the applicants because they had severe criminal records for stuff like human trafficking and drug smuggling. They found somebody who'd actually ransomed, kidnapped people in like Papua New Guinea or something. So like those people, those people were getting through before the start. So, yeah, you're to correctly observe.

They didn't have the highest hiring standards, that was Border Patrol. So I've a few comments ago and I've lost it now as I'm want to do when we get to this part. A commenter named Claybourne something. I don't, I can't remember the last thing. I'm sorry. He said, who is this other really smart guy? That's smart Mark Claybourne.

It's a smart Mark Agee. He doesn't like to be called that, but it's true. Now, Mark Age. I didn't know you guys. I didn't know. I'm in the well-read extended universe in their podcast as a. as, but this is very relative because it's like, I know more facts than Corey. Right.

The buttercream dream. Mark is a former journalist and current comedy writer and buddy of mine. So, yeah, that's him. Before I forget, I wanted to, we were to my military spending a buddy matter from high school used to be in Air Force. He was stationed at Malin Home, Idaho. I don't know this about how budgets work, but if you don't spend all your money, get less the next year, right? So this military base had a golf course.

So at the end of the year, they had a bunch of money left over. What they did was they built a second golf course. Yeah. Because they didn't have anything else to do with their money. So I'm imagining by now, this is like 20 years ago. So by now, half of Idaho is probably golf courses. Right. Yeah.

No, that, you know, as I mentioned on the last episode, my day, my old day job was working for the federal government. And that's the thing across the entire federal government. I'm sure most governmental operations. Like you said, if you don't spend the budget you're allocated, that means next year your budget's going to be lower. So they never allow that to happen. Where I worked, the, like, facilities budget, they would spend everything that was left, like, re-painting or re-blacktopping the parking lot, which had just been done the very prior year to that and shit like that, you know.

So, yeah, that's how you end up with all these bloated governmental budgets. It's a goddamn shame, but it's how it's how. it works. All right, I'm going to ask this question. Mark, Michelle Minich-Spenser commented. Yes, please. Your thoughts on the Lincoln Project. We're talking about before we started taping,

because Trey asked me, I had insinuated that I'm not a fan. And I'll just say this. Like, as individuals, like, let's talk about what they're doing versus who they are for a second. First of all, Killinghamwe's husband, George Conway. I know he tweets a bunch of anti-Trump. stuff. But I don't know how a husband and wife could actually disagree that much and still stay married, even though I know they're Catholic. And whatever their daughter was doing on Twitter,

it seems like another part of this game. But if you have a brain that works, it was always apparent that Trump was going to be bad for your brand, right? So it seems like a fairly straightforward thing for political algorithms to be like, okay, you have to work for Trump in the White House. I'm going to be anti-Trump. So I'm still viable in politics after your career. crashes and burns. Because I don't people know about Kelly Ann's career, but it wasn't going well before Trump.

That's why he reached out to hire her after everything else fell apart. She was like the last table scrap. The last campaign she had run, I think, was the guy who, I think it was Missouri Senate who lost a landslide after saying that women have a whole way,

have a whole way to shut that thing down talking about rape pregnancies. Right. So that was her legacy before Trump. So anyway, that's George Conway. Then you got Rick Wilson who would tweet jokes about Trayvon getting killed. You got their video,

videographer just a video ad guy just had to resign because people dug up old tweets where he was pretty, seemed pretty horny for the idea of wishing he was the guy who killed Michael Brown instead of the Darren, what's his name, who did it, and in Ferguson. So their politics are not mine, let's put it that way. What they're doing?

Sorry. Is it fair to say that you just very much get the impression that the people behind the Lincoln Project, whatever they're doing with the Lincoln Project, you think that the actual people behind it are at least a little bit full of shit, is what that's what you're saying? At least a little bit. And I guess I'll offer in their defense, even though I don't want to, that they've certainly cost themselves and sacrificed a ton of money in the last few years

but being never Trump people. Except for George Conway, he's still getting paid, them both getting paid coming and going. And it's not a bad lane to be in, to be like, we're the people who can make really aggressive mean attack ads from Trump

at Trump from the right. If you want to give them money to do it, it's your money, I guess. But my thing is, like, their ads aren't going to convince anybody of anything. They're just, they're good at trolling Trump. They've made him misdirect some ad spending in D.C.

Just to, um, Trump running ads in D.C. is politically, he's not going to win D.C. No, it's like 90% Democrat or something like that. Yeah, yeah. So, well, okay, but that is like, I didn't know,

we were talking about this off mic, and you told me a lot of shit that I didn't, I didn't know it already. I knew that George Conway is Kelly Ann's husband. I didn't know, like, the background of these people that run it. And I'm not like a huge Lincoln Project fan, but I had previously just sort of appreciated their, the lane that they had, like you said,

the sort of space that they feel. I'm personally glad that it's a space that's being filled. And I agree you're not really changing many people's minds with ads like that. I think pretty much any ads like that are not going to change many people's minds. But if it is resulting in even something like Trump misdirecting some campaign spending into a wasteful avenue, you know, then that's still cool with me. Obviously, all that shit you said about what the things they have said in the past, and stuff. Something that's pretty bile, and I don't like the sound of it.

But as far as the face of the organization and what they seem to be attempting to do, I'm generally on board with. I would just urge you guys not to give them any money because what they're doing is paying themselves to make these little ads that get a bunch of views on Twitter. And if they can trick Trump into tweeting about them, then get mainstream as like CNN Airplay because they have to cover Trump's tweets. but other than that, I don't know what's not really doing anything.

Way Way Wood elf commented, the Lincoln Project is dangerous. Right now they look good, but they're already campaigning for 2024. Take this seriously. Yeah, I mean, next year, the money you give them this year will next year be running ads about how Pelosi's spending too much

on social programs. So, yeah, give your dollars elsewhere. Right. let's see here um stacy lynne back again said we can boost

Biden while they cream Trump I approve and a lot of other people have had like similar thoughts and kind of what I was saying like if they are at all an effective tool to oust Trump then you know okay um but yeah sure it doesn't mean we got to just lionize them and you know

yeah I mean uh uh Soviet Union was a big help ticking down Nazi Germany. Right. Yeah, it seems like a lot of people are, uh, feel similarly to you, Mark, as far as Lincoln Project concern. AJ Nestor said,

don't donate to the Lincoln project. If Biden wins, they're going to turn their guns on us immediately. It's just a group of Republicans making Trump attack ads. That was from Stephen Lewis. So yeah. They actually,

the only thing I'll say that might actually not be their money make a move because like, but the real move here is like, because they've already established their brand as the anti-Trumpist wing of conservative so like they might just just turn their eye on like Rubio next and then cruise and then like that that might be there uh it's not a bad lane to be in because they're going I mean they've already made like two million dollars off this in the last couple months like

they're going to it's a good griff while I let go of it right all right all right all right well we are out of time that's it for this edition of evening skews I'm trey crouter it's it's smart mark there smart mark aging getting a lot of love in the comments and uh thank y all for watching and we'll see you next tuesday so you bye hey guys the papyes family feast why has everybody suddenly family with papas hits the table feed all those cousins with six pieces of our boldly seasoned signature chicken two famous chicken sandwiches two large mouth-watering sides and four flaky biscuits that's enough for cousin co-worker cousin roommate cousin neighbor and all his billion cousin kids you've got all the cousins coming even the ones who aren't really your cousins

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