wellRED podcast - Evening Skews - Week of August 25, 2020

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Well the god damn Republican National Convention was this week, as was the horror show in Kenosha, so yuns know me and Smart Mark had a lot to say. Enjoy. 

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I'm Trey Crowder and that's Mark Aegee. What's up, Mark? Hey, you all. Hey, Trey. Welcome back to evening skews. Tonight, the unbridled lunacy of the first. evening of the Republican National Convention, the infinitely more tragic but equally maniacal continued conduct of American law enforcement and a whole lot more. But first, as

always on the skews, we begin with a report on American dumb assery. A Lynchburg Virginia man has quit the same job like four goddamn times in the past two days. I'm talking of course about noted evangelical and former, we think, president. of Liberty University, Jerry Falwell Jr., who's been embroiled in controversy since it was revealed that the good reverend is a freak in the sheets. Now, we hear it to skews. We don't kink shame as a rule,

but when you professionally traffic immorality, you really ought to watch the dick and butt stuff. Mark, tell us what happened. Yeah, I mean, the problem wasn't what he was doing, really. It's that if a professor at his school or a student, God forbid, have been caught doing this, they would have been kicked out a long time ago. So just so people know, I'm not an impartial observer here.

I'm from Central Virginia. My family's from Buckingham County and I'm going to have to Max County School. The closest city is Lynchburg. And my family has a very one-sided rivalry, Hayden the Fallwells going back for several generations. Because Lynchburg is the closest city we'd go to see a movie, which is the best way to put it. Because, like, we couldn't even get decent movie. Like, okay, so showgirls didn't come to Lynchburg. I'm still mad about it when I was 16.

Yeah. Big fan of the name of the bell. Jesse was going to get naked in this movie called Showgirls, and the Fallwell's said in their more majority dipshit stuff, kept Showgirls out of Lynchburg. Anyway, that sums up how they rule the region with an iron. Right, exactly.

The Fallwells kind of rain over that part of Virginia with their Christian Morrack. That's the whole thing with them and it has been for a long time. Liberty University, which they preside over, has this very, very strict code of conduct. And among other things, it very clearly defines sexual conduct as only being appropriate between them one married man and one married woman. Shit like that. They're really hardcore. So that's the context. And then the son of the patriarch, Jerry Falwell Jr, who's been in charge for a while now, what has happened with him? Yeah, so he's out of his job because I got a couple of things happened the past few weeks. One, he Instagramed himself quite clearly drunk holding a drink with his pants on button and his arm around a woman who was not his wife.

Now the picture was pretty transparently a joke. He was making, he was teasing his wife's assistant that she couldn't button her pants anymore because she's pregnant. But again, he's holding a drink. His students are allowed to drink. He pretty clearly has a drinking problem, by the way. And so that his students did anyway, fast forward. but for about a year and a half has been his weird stuff around him and his wife and a guy who's keeps being called a pool boy or a pool attendant in Miami who they say they met on vacation

and then just started hanging out with this 20 year old pool boy a lot including giving him a few million dollars to open like a nightclub um so that's such a Miami fucking pool boy uh side pace situation there giving him yeah money to open a nightclub with Clearly, when a middle of age hanging out with a, with basically a teenage pool boy, giving him a bunch of money, it doesn't take a sex detective to figure out some weird stuff's going on, right? So, but he did not have for years. Anyway, so the guy apparently just going on the record, and Jerry knew that story was in the

work. So he gave a preemptive interview to a friendly outlet saying, try to do the, you know, we had trouble in marriage, we're trying to make it work, the reform center talk that usually works for guys in his situation. tried to blame on his wife saying his wife had cheated but he loved her and they were going to make it work right anyways says no actually um the article comes out and he goes no there three of us were all in the room together jerry like to watch and you know whatever makes you whatever whatever makes sure whatever spice of your marriage go for it i guess but um again uh the the good people at liberty university would let him

steal all the money you wanted to steal but this was too much a bridge too far so he's out of a job although he resigned and then tried to take it back and then resigned again today i mean he resigned yesterday early in the day. And then after whiskey o'clock, he retracted his resignation. And then he sobered up and resigned again this morning. I mean, what do you think that was just as simple as him just being like, ain't nobody going to tell me to resign to do whatever the fuck I want. Like going with the flow earlier in the day.

But then like you said, having a couple of whiskeys and then being like, I run this shit. I'm King Kong around here. I ain't fucking going nowhere. And then, you know, in the cold, sober light of the morning, realizing that probably wasn't going to work. or what i mean maybe there was like maybe it was negotiating the details of his maybe he wanted like a bigger you know a golden parachute or i don't know um but i don't know what levy had because it is i mean it is

it has a it has a board like his family founded but it's a non-profit so it doesn't like it's a non-profit it has a tax structure that doesn't leave him all powerful so yeah uh his uh His power was due to his political clout and leadership and reputation. And those things all took a hit in the last few days. And but like what he's done with Liberty, all right, a lot of big schools do this now, but he's basically turned Liberty into like a real estate like investment fund. So they've, Liberty has like 15,000 on campus students and 95,000 online students. They've turned it into like a degree, like a selling degree factory.

And they're taking that money and bought a bunch of land with it. Now, what Jerry's done with it is basically establish a kickback scheme where he buys, he'll like pay to have land developed. He'll pay, give sweetheart deals to his buddies in real estate to develop the land. And then he'll rent it to different set of buddies on the cheap for way less than the market value after Liberty is paid to develop it. And then I'm assuming that he's getting some sort of tradeoff. But like one of the people he gave a sweetheart deal to was a giant, I think, fitness studio or tennis courts for his wife's personal trainer who he said he meant to text he had he was

showing boudoir photos to employees he texted him he accidentally texted some to somebody his cover story was that he intended to send it to his wife's personal trainer that's what he said at the time because he wanted to thank him for all the good work he'd done getting his wife's body tight that's that's what he told the newspaper all right he's been an absolute embarrassment his whole goddamn life and he wasn't smart enough to keep it together like a lot of second generation you know, King Windsor. Also, man, the pool boys,

like it's just all so on the nose, you know, a 20-year-old Miami pool boy, like it's literally the plot of a porno movie. But that's like part of the whole thing for these people. Like I said, when you traffic immorality, you really got to watch this shit, because that's the thing if Jerry Falwell Jr. was a rapper, you know,

or a rock star or one. whatever. No one would give a fuck about any of this, uh, except for maybe the misuse of, you know, official funds, but no one would care that he's a cuck. But like, and that's, that's the other thing too. Like they're the one they being, he's a huge supporter of President Trump. They're very hardcore right-wing Christian conservatives. They make a huge deal about cucks, about being a cuck. Liberals are all cucks. They make a huge deal about the, you know, people's morality, the proper way to live your life and like when you do shit

like that you know you can't you can't get away with just whatever melts your butter you know like they fucking make their own bed and they have to lay in it now except obviously a lot of times they don't have to lay in it they just still get whatever the fuck they want but

they have to like right yeah make their bed and have yeah and watch someone else lay in it but they uh like I feel like this is another side effect of like the current age we live in with technology and social media and all that.

You know what I mean? Like I think these guys like this are still adjusting to the fact that like there ain't as many secrets anymore. Like people are going to find out about it. Like these guys have always operated this way, which is to say extremely hypocritically. But used to,

they didn't have to worry about that ever being a problem. But now it can be a fucking problem. You know, and I for one and all for that. Yeah, I mean, it's always been that like what you saw, right? Ain't that what his? Well, I mean, I would hesitate. Like, there's not even too much hypocrisy ranked up in Jerry Jr. Because he did run a Christian Wright college.

That was like branding for expanding. Like, if you want to turn your school into a profit online thing, all around the world, recruiting people to buy this from you is helpful. But Jerry Jr. is not a minister. His brother, like when, after his dad, I mean, to bat it up is a, the empire, his brother got Thomas Row Baptist Church, his brother's a minister, and Jerry took the business empire.

He outmaneuvered his brother to be head of the college because where the money was, right? So, um, I, okay, but you, but you, you said you don't think there's that much hypocrisy going on here with

no, no, there is. I'm saying I wouldn't, I'm not going to sit here and pretend that Jerry Jr. is necessarily a huge believer in the good book. Well, Yeah, right. Of course not. But like, he does, though, right? I mean, just by being the president of a college like Liberty University, which is notorious for that hardcore Bible thumping morality police bullshit, just by being the president of that, he is presenting himself as, you know, a follower of the good Lord and the good book and the way you ought to live.

sure just like like like but like if I play for the Cowboys doesn't mean I'm a fan of the Cowboys you know it's just it's a good paycheck you know it's like yeah but that dude I feel like you're like I feel like you're almost kind of letting him off the hook with that you're right about yeah the Cowboy analogy I get that they're not they're not fans of the team it is just a paycheck but it just it ain't the same with with something like this like they make they make their entire existence off of telling people how to live. And the way

they tell people how to live doesn't encompass watching a 20 year old pool boy, fuck your wife in a Miami nightclub or whatever. I'm not saying this, I'm saying he's not a minister, like if Jerry senior had been caught like this, it would have been like pure hypocrisy. I'm saying Jerry

Jr. is just in this for the money. I mean, Jerry's senior was too, but that's a whole different conversation. But my point is that like he's mainly a businessman. And what he was selling just happened to be salvation as opposed to in degrees as of oil or whatever. Yeah. Right.

He could have been the board of any other any other con artist type company. He was doing Christian. He was doing Amway. It just happened to be Bibles instead of like whatever else Amway sells. Okay. I hear you on I totally hear you on that, but what I'm saying is like you said, he could have been on the board of

any, you know, you name it. It could have been, you know, fucking whatever. post-it notes or cars or tires or whatever it's just any multinational corporation but i'm saying like if he was not this no one would give a shit about any of this you know what i mean like that's like like that's the whole point if he was just that kind of businessman it would be fine to watch a 20 year old pull boy fuck your wife in hotel rooms and buy him nightclubs and shit like that wouldn't be a problem my point is it like

The wing of the Republican Party he ended up in was actually a more natural fit for him. Right? Like the Donald, we'll come back to Michael Cohen and the pictures and stuff in a second, because that's where the real political scandal here is. But the, with, you froze for a second, if you know it or not. But, yeah, I'm going to. The, so like, like the guys, like the guys that are into, I don't know why all these guys, like, watching their wife get railed.

It's a very weird subculture they're in, but like, like, Roger Stone, is into that. That came out publicly a long time ago. He started posting ads and local news classified ads. Like asking for dudes to come have sex with his wife. It came out that Paul Manafort, same thing. That's what got him in trouble with his daughter's text messages got hacked. That's the reason his daughters were talking about him at all. And then when it text messages, you know, a murderer.

So the very weird subculture of sex perverts in this wing of the Republican Party. And the fact of the woman in a networked in a Christian college, is going to be, you know, perfect. But anyway, so think about blackmail the people don't, like, think about is, like, a lot of, if you do blackmail all right, the victim thanks you for it. Because what you've done is you've helped them keep their secret, right? And that appears to be with Michael Cohen. That's a church of Scientology works.

I live in L.A. so I don't get kidnapped for saying that. But, like, so Michael Cohen apparently helped Jerry Jr. get back to the photos. of his wife with the pool boy, and then conveniently endorsed Trump, had Trump come speak at liberty, and a bunch of students tried to protest and didn't show up. So, I don't know. Right.

Well, you're talking about it being a, like, prevalent in a certain wing of the Republican Party. It's that whole, like, you know, Doth protest too much situation with them. You know what I mean? Like, again, like, they're the ones who made Cook as a word and as an insult into a thing in the popular lexicon in America recently.

Like, they did that. And then, like you said, it comes out that so many of the prominent members of that part of the Republican Party fit the bill in a literal fashion. But it's just like going back years with the most homophobic, you know, members of Congress and high-level Republicans, the ones who were the most hardcore about the scumphant. about the scourge of homosexuality and that type of thing, all ended up getting caught, sucking some dude off in an airport bathroom or whatever.

Like, it just, it always goes down that way, you know. But, I mean, I don't know. So, all right, moving on in, again, much more tragic news. The police are still up to their old tricks. Kenosha, Wisconsin Police Department has continued. the everlasting tradition of making a mockery of the supposed slogan of American law enforcement to protect and serve when over the weekend they shot a 29-year-old black man named Jacob Blake

seven times in the back. Mr. Blake so far, thankfully, is alive. He has survived, but at the very least it looks like he's going to be paralyzed from the waist down. It turns out the Kenosha Police Department three years ago had agreed to purchase an institute a policy for body cams where they wore body cams all the time but then just never did that so none of them

had body cams on or anything like that as always happens with these cases the only reason anybody even knows about it is because a bystander or a neighbor in this case happened to catch it on video and that's part of the like I've talked about this before it I know it blows my fucking

mind the way like all these cops and all these cities, they know, they all know, they're intensely aware that every cell phone camera and every Twitter feed in this country is trained on them right now, right? And rather than like taking a page out of chapter one of the villains handbook and, you know, laying low for a while or playing it cool until shit dies down or whatnot, they just fucking just keep on about their business. If not, if not ramping it up. Like it's crazy to me. I know it's like it happens so often. It can't be surprising anymore, but I really think when you step back and look at it, it's fucking insane that something like

this, it's crazy that it ever happens. Like it's always inexcusable and it should never happen, but it is doubly crazy that something like this happens in the context of an environment that we are all living in right now, you know? And it just seems to me like it just, shows that like they still they still don't give a fuck man at all like because if they did I don't think you'd see stories like this at least in this moment yeah I mean that video is hard to watch for a lot of reasons but like you can count like 40 points in that 15 seconds where the officer could have made a bunch of different choices um I still haven't seen a good explanation of like what they suspected him of that they had their gun drawn in the first place

of a guy. The guy's wearing a wife beater and sweatpants. It's pretty clearly he doesn't have any weapon. They have their gun pointed at him. They showed up to a domestic violence call that did not involve him. It was two women arguing. It was a verbal confrontation that Jacob was trying to stop, apparently. And they had their gun pointed to him. He goes to get in his car because

when you're in a free society, if police don't have a reason to detain you, you can leave. You can leave, right. You can leave. There's the police are wrong so many, so many points here. I don't understand why when people, when you have your gun drawn and people are screaming at you, you know, like, oh man, maybe if I'm going to get rough, you guys should put the gun away and go with the taser, ton, my hands, using my words, like an adult.

And it just, and like, so, yeah, I saw defenders of the police being like, well, what if he was going to the car to get a gun? Why would he be going to get a gun? He has no reason to shoot the officer because they have no calls to arrest him. So I I did the whole thing makes no sense and I don't even know what to say about it anymore They're out of right I mean yeah that's kind of where I'm at with it too it's like I just I don't know what else to even say about it because it's the same shit every time like you were so there's always always justification comes out later they start digging up like what his criminal record was and and that type of thing and it's like you're basically saying that all all that first yes they didn't know that but even if they did it's like you're telling me that that just as a literal death sentence, you know, and I just don't know, that ain't it. I don't care if he was a drug addict or had a criminal record or whatever any of that shit.

He shouldn't have been, and he wasn't, again, the guy survived, but he shouldn't have been, you know, shot seven times in the back in the street. It doesn't warrant that kind of response. And I just don't understand what people don't understand about that. But it's a, obviously, it's an understatement to say. It's a widespread issue in America right now. And it's still an ongoing thing. The protest, I think, are definitely for sure making an impact,

but the opposition is still out in force too. In my home state, our state legislature in the state of Tennessee continues to embarrass the shit out of me. And as it relates to this subject in particular, the Tennessee state legislature has just passed a new law that is aimed at protesters. It's now a felony in the state of Tennessee because the law was signed,

it was signed in the law by the governor, Bill Lee, who's a piece of shit this week. And the law makes it a felony for protesters to camp out overnight on state property. And this comes after a couple weeks of protesters camping out in front of the state Capitol building. So they make it a felony to camp out overnight on state property and if you're convicted you can lose your voting rights and you can face up to six years in prison and it's such a clearly targeted piece of legislation you know that's just pointed at just protesters and again not fucking rioters and anarchist or anything like that protesters and I don't know again I don't know what else to say about it other than shit like this makes me sick and I just hate to see it coming out of my home state yeah it's so transparent if you protest

us in a way we don't like, we're going to take away your right to vote. Right. Right. And by the way, just for shits and giggles, let me read the text of the First Amendment to you for a second. Congress will make no law prohibiting the right of the people to peaceably assemble and petition the government for redress of grievances. So I don't really, you're gathering on public property, what your tax dollars pay for

to petition the government and redress of grievances. It's plain letter law that I don't see how this survives. any sort of court challenge. But yeah. They can threaten people. Right. And on a just in terms of like practicality of it, other opponents of the legislation like the ACLU have pointed out that this kind of just encourages like homeless people to go

sleep on somebody's yard or something, you know, like private property. Like if you're going to get a felony in six years in prison for sleeping on a bench in front of the fucking state house or whatever, then now you'll just go sleep on somebody's front porch or whatever. And I, like, that's not, I'm not worried about where the homeless are sleeping at

personally. I'm just saying it's another, like you break it down at every level and none of it makes sense, is my point. Well, as a person who's definitely going to end up living on the street eventually, I'm a little worried about it. I, I, uh, yeah, I don't, I mean, none of these are good ideas, strictly speaking.

leave anywhere good. And I don't know what they're, I mean, I know what they're up to. They don't think ahead for half a second. Yeah. And it's not just Tennessee, obviously. Obviously, it's all over the country. But one of the more egregious examples is also in your home state, Mark, in a Portsmouth, Virginia, which I don't know what part of the state that's in.

Is that also your neck of the woods or is that? That's down there. It's down to the ocean, like near Virginia Beach, kind of. But Portsmouth, Virginia cops are, they're, they're, wilding. They have arrested a whole slew of public officials who all happen to be black. And ostensibly, they've arrested them for felonies related to the destruction of a Confederate monument, which I guess did happen, but it's still not

justified. And all, it's like, these are a state senator, multiple officials from the NAACP, the local NWACP chapter, a school board member. upstanding members of the community, pillars of the community, not that it would matter if they were just regular people either, but I'm saying pillars of the community type people in Portsmouth, Virginia, all black, have been rounded up and charged with crimes by the Portsmouth Police Department over this type of shit recently.

So like, it could be a felony. It's a felony charge of injury to a monument in excess of $1,000. They got, yeah, they arrested three public defenders, too. I'm sure that's a coincidence. Then, like, then after people raise a stink about that, some guy got riled up on a Facebook group and found some obscure thing in a city code where a citizen can go to a magistrate and get an arrest warrant for a public official who engages in like an interference with the appointment of a city official

because the vice mayor who happens to be this daughter, of the state center who got arrested. The vice mayor and city councilwoman called for the police chief to be fired. And so he construed that as interference to the appointment of a public official. So he went to magistrate and got a warrant, which the police department and sheriff's department were all too happy to to enforce and serve. So this is like the city, local city version of a military coup. They're not even being subtle about it. It's crazy. Yeah. It is crazy. you know, again, the shit is insane. I just don't, like, I don't understand

that there's no one at the higher levels in organizations like that saying, like, hey, maybe not right now, should we be, you know, doing this type of shit. But again, they just, like, they don't see it that way. Like, they're the heroes.

We're the villains. And they don't, you know, they're going to keep doing what they're doing because they're in the right as far as they're concerned. But on to, I want to call it a more fun subject although it also is terrifying like everything in America right now

but it is at least easier to laugh at the first night of the Republican convention was something else man after Donald Trump Jr's speech the word cocaine was trending on Twitter globally

because of cocaine cocaine evita lockness monster lockness monster that you all treat trending because of the convention.

Yeah, where do you even start with all the shit that went on last night? So yeah, yeah, Donald Trump Jr. coming out there, looking and acting all coped up. He called Joe Biden the Loch Ness Monster of the Swamp and then tried to make that analogy work, saying he pops up every now and into Run for President, as the Loch Ness Monster is famously known to do, and then disappears for years at a time after that.

But his eyes were all red and like moist. They had moist eyes going on and just not a great look. And then his girlfriend, Kimberly Guilfoyle, who's the ex-girlfriend or ex-wife of Gavin Newsom. Ex-wife of our fine governor in California, Craig? Ex-wife of our governor in California, Gavin Newsom. Kimberly Gilfoyle had to go up there and upstage him by screaming like a lunatic about all kinds of shit. and that was sort of the theme of the night was fear mongering, high volume fear mongering, which is funny because that was some of their biggest criticisms of what the Democrats did at the DNC

was how now negative we were. Yeah, imagine that, being negative in a year like 2020. But they criticized the Democrats for being overly negative in the DNC last week and then come out, and they're literally out here screaming about Democrats. killing the next generation of conservatives, you know, through abortions or whatever, inviting Mexican

gangs to live next door to you, forcibly removing your guns, disbanding the police, all this wild shit. And I tweeted something about this earlier. It's like, what's funny about that to me is they also act like one of the major problems with Democrats

is that Democrats are, you know, for lack of a better word, Democrats are huge pussies. They're, they're cowards, right, that are weak-willed and lack the resolve to actually enact any change. They're too overly sensitive. They're overly sensitive snowflakes that can't get anything done. They save that, and then they come out here and are like, they're going to command the gangs and murder the Lord, you know, and it's like, which one is it, man? Yeah.

Crazy. Joe Biden is going to kill God. I'm not sure the mechanism. It's like a knife fight or leg wrestling. I'm not sure how he's going to do it. But yeah. Yeah, but, yeah, you had Herschel Walker, given it, giving a speech. Okay, that's another thing. I'm talking about hypocrisy. They, another big criticism was having Eva Longoria give the, or like sort of kind of

of MC, the DNC early last week. And then they open up with John Voight, you know, like, I don't know. Consertives are obsessed with show business to a degree. Like, I work in show business and I think about it less than they do. I've been thinking about why, and my only theory is that it's the only thing they don't control with pop culture because that's dominated by young people who tend to be more libertine and socially accepting until they get older. And so, like, more cosmopolitan, I guess I would say. So it's like they're just so jealous that like the dims get all the good celebs or whatever.

And it's like you control the presidency, the judiciary, half of Congress, 30-some state houses, most of the governorships, Wall Street, every corporate board, and social media, basically. And you're also, but you're worried that, like, Chance the Rapper might do a Hillary Clinton benefit or whatever. It's extremely weird. Yes, yes, it is. So Kimberly Guilfoyle, right? And this has been pointed out multiple times today, but she's on there screaming like a lunatic.

And I actually didn't realize last night until I read it today, but like that wasn't live. That was pre-taped. Her doing that. A lot of these speeches were pre-taped. And it's also like there's no one there's no one there who can tell her maybe to, you know, not do this. And I'm going to try to pull this up real quick, Mark. You can't hear it, can you? I cannot.

Yeah, well, sorry about that. Anyway, y'all get to drift. You know what she was doing. Oh, hang on a second. Hang on. Sorry, new software. I'm trying to figure it out. Don't let them kill future generations because they told you and brainwash you

and fed you lies that you weren't good enough. I think you brought up, you know, what she said and how she said. So, yeah, screaming about killing future generations because of our lies and this type of. Yeah. I remember that I'm not quoting exactly, but liberals want to control what you see in here. It's to control how you live. And four more years, it's only going to get better. And she does this weird, aggressive grin to an empty, young and empty room is always awkward. That's, that's nothing. I don't, that, yes, she holds their hands to the heavens and screams. The best is yet to come.

And I don't like, this is a thing we talked about before. Like, I genuinely, I can't make my brain understand the brain of someone who watches that, who isn't like a billionaire. Billionaires or whatever aside. Other than them, I don't understand the brain of somebody who, in this country, in this point in time, watching someone screams, hey, you ain't seen nothing yet. and not being fucking terrified by that. You know what I mean?

Like, I don't know how anyone with any kind of sanity could act like things are going great right now. You know, like, it blows my fucking mind. Whatever you think the reasons for our problems are, if you somehow blame the Democrats for the problems we have or whatever, okay, fine. I mean, I don't get that either, but, like, you at least got to admit that, like, shit is bad right now.

I would think, but apparently not. No, things are great and the best is yet to come. I guess you could see this as growing pains until like we, we, we, we achieve pushing back to a semi-apartheid state. I guess that's the promise. I don't, I don't really know. Anyway, I can't put myself in their mind. I mean, look, they're, I don't think every Trump voter is dumb. I think people vote for a lot of different reasons, but I do think.

think these people in charge of this are dumb and nobody wants to be it has it been the problem with trump from the beginning he didn't have a good campaign because no one of any sort of character intelligence wanted to be associated with him same thing when he got in the white house nobody he only got the dregs because no one wanted to be associated with him and the same thing with like you look at the convention speakers like 40% of them are like at the last name trump because nobody wants to speak on his path um they drafted tim scott and doing it who's basically the only sitting senator who would who would who's willing to because he doesn't have an election soon and they needed a black Republican to go up there and say cops are awesome

yeah and tonight and I don't this no actually sorry I guess this got canceled but anyway tonight was shaping up to be even worse probably will end up being even worse but in particular just talking about the lineup they had there was Mary Ann Mendoza was scheduled to speak tonight And again, apparently this just changed very late in the game. Yeah, kicked off of it.

She was tweeting out anti-Semitic conspiracy theories connected to QAnon. And I don't mean somebody dug up an old tweet that Trump people couldn't know it about. She tweeted it like an hour ago. Right, right before she's going on to speak at the Republican National Convention, this woman. And Mary Amp, she's like an angel. She's an angel mom. Her kid died. Her kid was killed by a drunk driver who was an illegal immigrant.

you know, I'm a dad. I feel sorry for anybody that's lost a child, obviously. But like, yeah, politicizing, making that, you know, turning that into a sort of racist dog whistling about immigration and whatnot is obviously complete bullshit. But that was the box she was set to check tonight. And mere hours before she was going to go on and check that box, she was on Twitter urging her followers. to watch this

or to investigate this thread about a QAnon plot about or a Q&N thread about a Jewish plot to enslave the world. Yeah. So that's what we're dealing with. Honestly, I'm surprised she got, I'm surprised

she got next. I'm not going to lie like that. I'm surprised that they actually said, okay, no, you ain't going to go on. Who do they fill that slot with? Well, they just fucking play Lee Greenwood for, you know, on long loop for like for 15 minutes or however long she had until the next spot. Like, who did they have in the wings as an alternate? But you could rock the stretch sign. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, look at Kid Rock. Give him to this. Do an extra five. Yeah, I mean, like, I don't, it's, it. I'm surprised they didn't push through because one thing Trump has figured out. and he's smarter than a lot of people when it comes to this stuff is like people have people who have limits to their outrage and people also have a pretty normal expectation for how things work so um if she just let her talk it would have been like a two

hour news cycle and people don't really grasp what it is or what's wrong with it you know no like maybe 12 million people are watching they don't she's not going to say anything about q-on on tv probably right they probably a dumb button if she does but like it was But like it would have been, it would have been some obscure story. Like, like, we're talking about earlier with the weird sex stuff. Like, if you have a, if you have a normal sex scandal, the media knows how to report on it. Like, if you caught having an affair, if, like, you were having sex with an intern or someone under aid, you already know, a live boy or dead girl thing, the politicians should say what ruins careers.

But if you're doing some weird sex stuff that the mainstream media just finds a little hinky and gross, they don't they absolutely have no idea to cover it you know what I'm saying so um like so that's why like like if that pool boy hadn't come forward fall well would have gotten off because no one it's like what do you what do you say about you know kuckery but how do you had the dc media has not figured out of report on qaon a way that doesn't amplify it you know um so yes well and speaking of qanon it's really gaining steam mark they're picking up picking up some other conspiracy theory communities who are jumping on board. Most notably right now, Bigfoot, the Bigfoot people.

And look, I don't want to speak for the entire Bigfoot community, all right? I'm sure there's some Bigfoot Americans right now who are not behind this. But prominent members of the Bigfoot community have come out officially endorsing the Q&OND theory. and thus supporting Donald Trump. And, you know, that is a pretty big blow. Can we see the video? Because it's pretty awesome. Yes, if you give me a minute.

Yeah, but talk about it for a minute while I pull it up. So before it's, Trey, one thing that's happening and what it makes Q so, the Q community is so dangerous, besides the fact that Facebook is working its dam just to make it a thing. Like Q Facebook pages have grown like sixfold over it since COVID started because people are home and they're bored and they're sad and paranoid and lonely. And so a lot of the different conspiracy communities are merging into a unified theory. And so like new moms join wellness groups to like maybe try to sell essential oils.

And you're drawing the anti-back stuff and then slide in a queue. And that's that kind of thing is happening a lot. So you basically can't be on Facebook now and not be urged to join a community that's going to turn into a Q fan page. That being said, the Bigfoot entry, this is a game changer here. I'm thinking about joining now. Yeah, I love how you referred to it as a unified theory. Like, that's what they're working to.

Which that's also, that's also what physicists are working towards is a unified to explain the physical world. But, you know, fuck what they're doing. These guys, they're. Maybe it meant like, like, so what's happened is like, you got like anti, like, so Marin County anti-vacs wine moms. are now in the same cinematic universe of conspiracy theories as 3% are like militia types, boogaloo boys, Q people, and they're all sharing theories and they've got their corpords and they're doing what you do with the crazy cork boards is your drawing connections. So if you're against, like, if you think Big Pharma is maybe a little too loose with what the

vaccines they give out to babies, and here comes somebody saying, actually, did you know the bill, that the COVID, COVID is just a cover-ups. and get us Bill Gates to microchip us. And then somebody else is like, COVID's a conspiracy theory. They're just trying to take Trump down, take Trump down using COVID because he's on the verge of uncovering all the pedophiles who terrified children before they kill them and eat them because the fear generates a chemical called, I can't pronounce it, androgram. Adrenachrome or whatever.

Yeah. So like, it's a fairly, it's a nice, it's a Rube Goldberg machine of a bunch of stupid things. but if you believe one, there's no reason you can't believe the next one. Right, right, yeah. Yeah, it's just people going like, yeah, you know what else, man. And then hitting them with this. All right, no one could stomach all of this, but here's some of what you're talking about.

John knew is what they refer to themselves as. Otherwise known as the Bigfoot Forest people, the Sasquatch, the Bigfoot. So anyway, if you read the Q&A in my second book, Second book. He has two books. You will see that Trump has said a few different times that they are assisting the white hats. Now, if you're wondering what the heck does that mean

assisting the white hats? Well, let's find out, shall we? Okay. New age of information. No, let's not find out. He shows a Q&Non, non-conspiracy video that makes no fucking sense. But it,

but it opens with him. Yeah, he's saying he's the official ambassador for the Janu. I think he's a day. Dejanu? Dejanu? Anyway, he's given. Forest people.

Yeah. Sam squatches. Yeah, he's given Sasquatches, like a Native American tribal name. Yeah. And apparently their chief has joined forces with, with Trump. And Trump has apparently announced

this several times straight as he put in his second book. That's a big endorsement, man. The chief of the Bigfoot people, you get, yeah, get Chief Orlock or whatever his name is.

We're breaking news here on the evening skews. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bigfoot has come out in support of Donald Trump. It's funny to think about, we were texting about this last night. It's funny to think about Bigfoot being like a bigot, you know, like being a right,

like it turns out Bigfoot's just a horrible racist. That's why he stayed in the woods this whole time, you know? Bigfoot's like, yeah, you ever seen a Jew in the woods? Exactly. He ain't coming to the cities. He's in the woods because of the Democrats' fair housing policies

made the suburbs disastrous. Yeah, unsuitable. That's why Bigfoot's keep to themselves is they just, they, you know, can't stomach Mexicans and homosexuals and whatever. But took all the Bigfoot jobs. It's all so, fucking crazy man but that's not like okay a quick

divergence because I was thinking about this we were talking about Mendoza earlier and she's saying right before she's was supposed to go on and speak at the R&C she's giving this she's encouraging her followers to look into this Q&on theory about the global Jewish conspiracy Jews run the world and everything and part of that was like talking about the

this well-established hoax among anti- semites about the elders of Zion or whatever that was part of it and she's like the elders of Zion are real you know you need to look into what they're going after and what I'm getting at is like I don't under there's so many things I don't understand about this but I like how does that square with Republicans and conservatives like general support of Israel the state do you know what I mean like that's always been wild to me that like being hardcore supportive of Israel is a conservative ideology in America, right?

But yet they also are the ones always screaming about Jews running the world and all this type of shit. Like, how is that even supposed to work? Well, they don't support Israel because they like Jewish people. They support Israel because they think they're going to bring about the end of the world and Jesus is going to come back. So, but the thing is, like, how complicit Israel's been in that. And that's because they like, Netanyahu understands this and is in favor of it. And like he's still, like, his biggest allies besides Trump or like Victor Orban, who's a big right wing like dictator in Eastern Europe who's like a big anti-Zionist conspiracy theorist.

But he also like, but he hates Muslim immigrants, right? So basically every state of Israel and American evangelicals have both agreed that hatred for Muslims outranks everything, including whether people hate them or not if you're a Jewish citizen of Israel. So I don't, like, it's all pretty idiotic, but like, it's weird. There's a, a bunch of like, Black Swan events happening to make everything so much worse at the same time. The FBI Twitter account tweeted out a link to their file in their elder protocols, the elders of Zion the other day. I wonder if you saw that. And conspiracy, in an anti-Semite conspiracy theorist went crazy, but it's just an automated FBI bot that in response to a Freedom of Information Act

request, when people ask for FBI files, the FBI once they clear it and a really classified information, won't delete it. And of course, they did research into this document that was a very popular among violent separatists. So it's just, but like, people took that as like support. It's like when Trump, when Trump said Q and on people love me last week at a press conference, the Q people took that as all we're right we've been on to something the whole time it's time to well he said it might be two different press conferences who can even keep up but the one I saw they asked him about Q and on and they said what do you think about Q&on conspiracy theory that your administration is helping to save the world from a global cabal of pedophilic cannibals or

whatever and Trump was just like is that supposed to be bad like we are saving the world and just left it at that so yeah I mean saving the world is a good thing Trey He's got, yeah. So, all right, let's go to the comments over here and see what we got. Steve Mosch says, breaking news, Melania caught on tape, bad-mouthing the Don and his kids. That's the book her former friend assistant put out, right? Yes, there's about to put out. But that's the thing, like, who can even keep up with all the different, you know, caught on tape, shit,

talking about Donald Trump, because I know just a couple days before that, there was the same thing, but with his niece taping his sister, his older sister, he's a judge, and his sister was talking shit about Trump and saying how awful he is, and she can't stand him. And now you got Melania doing the same thing. And it's like, has there literally ever been anybody that isn't currently under his thumb, like isn't currently benefiting from his reign? Who has ever said anything good about him? you know what I mean like every single time anything comes out from someone who like has been associated with Trump in the past it's universally negative even the people closest to him his own family none of this stuff hurts him because the people who like him one of the things they like about him is that he fucking sucks like it's not like like they think it's good that he's mean and dumb because it's like I don't know why but they enjoy it they enjoy it how much it frustrates people like you and me who are like look at this fucking idiot get mad about it because you know he's going to like he's costing us a year of our lives hiding in our houses because of a coronavirus and uh economic opportunities and uh you know what all the things that go along with that but they're like ha ha ha triggered the libs here's my couple mug up liberal tear they they they love that shit it's great but like right like he knows he sucks too by the way like this isn't like there was a pair of his biographers remember listening to on a podcast years ago we're talking about, they tried to get him to be introspective.

They were just asked him question prompts. Like, they literally asked him if he had a friend. And he goes, he thought about it and goes, like, what do you mean? Like someone I would like go out to dinner with and talk to. And they say, man. Now, when you say friend. Yeah. Did you elaborate on that?

He goes, well, then no. Like, he just doesn't, but there are people like that. I mean, some people just like, they don't have, they don't, they don't, don't care about any sort of human relationship. They mean, like, some of them are really high functioning. Like, I mean, the Kobe Bryant family famously was proud that he didn't have any friends. He was too busy playing basketball. But the, but the other one, this is the funny one, but they asked him who his ideal dinner companion was.

And he thought about it for a minute. And he said, a hot, broad, with a huge rack. Thought about it. It took him a minute to come up with that. Yeah. Giving her dead like one of those. It's like one of those things. Like who's your biggest hero?

Who would you love to talk to about your life experience? Yeah. Titties. Yeah. I mean, just for a minute, imagine him reading a poem and thinking about it. Just this thing. Yeah. Jamie Horowitz said, we're laughing about all this now, but it's actually terrifying.

Most of Trump's base actually believes this shit. And you're right, but you're 100% right. But it's one of those things we're like, oh, you got to laugh at it. you know, otherwise you'll fucking go insane. I actually think ridicule is probably the way to, like, the way, the way that the, you know, mainstream, uh, centrist reporters talk about this stuff, but it's sort of like distant amusement where they're not really familiar with it.

It's kind of like this cute, adorable fringe conspiracy theory that doesn't really matter. I think that is not helpful, but I think if you actually understand it enough to talk in their language and make fun of it and put how fucking stupid they are. I think it inoculates more people from signing on to it. Do that make sense? I mean, honestly, like, I don't have any other weapons

but roasting stuff. I'm a comedy writer on a Facebook show. I don't know what else to do. No, yeah. Well, I mean, yeah, also again, like, I think that just like when people take shit like that so seriously, which they all do. I think one of the best things you can do

if you're talking about combating it is just laughing in its face. You know what I mean? Like because of the way they look at it all, you know? Yeah. I don't know. Let's say here. People say,

Carrie Lee says, Mark's exactly right. They're trying to bring on the end of the world calls the rapture. Trading a drug. He's a rare southerner. He didn't get dragged to Sunday school for 18 straight years. So this stuff aligns him sometimes.

Yeah, that's true. Yeah, I grew up basically a religious. And it's always, yeah, it's weird. I mean, like, I don't know. I've been obviously aware of all this type of shit my whole life, but I haven't been, like, immersed in it and bombarded by it. Like so many of my, you know, fellow Southerners have been. And, yeah, it's just, it's wild to me.

But let's see here. Kathy Ann Crane said, I've never seen a vape like that. That's just a jewel. That's all it is. All the kids have them. They're very popular. Let's see here. All right.

Donnie Anderson says, Mike Pompeo is about to speak from Israel live at the RNC. That's why Mendoza. was removed she was the slide immediately before pompeo but they were they were both they were both planned to be there right because i know people were upset about so pompeo the secretary of state is currently in israel and is speaking at the rnc from there and they've made this whole show of saying like all the costs associated with him doing that will come from campaign funding and all that and they won't be like taxpayer dollars and whatever else but people are pissed off because it's

like he's doing this essentially in his official capacity as the Secretary of State on a diplomatic mission or whatever, speaking at the RNC and endorsing Donald Trump. Yeah, I mean, all these guardrails we have had to keep us keep things working where we do wink and nod and pretend that things aren't political. It's like the State Department's independent of political campaigns south of the fucking window, which is like a pretty clever way to solicit more foreign interference. Like if the state department would be on your side, if you, uh, and I hope the Trump campaign went. But yeah, they're there. I didn't really, I didn't make the connection between, um,

the anti-Semitic conspiracy theory and Paul Pato actually being in Israel right now. That could definitely be, uh, be a reason. But also as we just talked about, the, uh, state of Israel has basically formally endorsed and, intimate anti-Semitic conspiracy theories by how they pick their alliances abroad because being right wing is more important than not wanting to kill them. Yeah. Zahirizik said I hadn't heard about Melania talking shit about the Donald but yeah apparently that's coming in the next tell-all book yeah so a new one comes out every week so apparently

this woman who had a falling out with Melania over whatever was Malania's best friend like executive assistant I think I think she's the one to help plan the inauguration and a bunch of money went missing too that might have been part of the fallout was that she stole from the Trump's which you can help the Trump steal but you can't steal from the Trump's unless they get their cut first. She apparently recorded a bunch of conversations with Melania where she said that Ivanka sucks and Don Jr. is an idiot. No one likes him and she doesn't like her husband.

I mean, like everyone knows all this stuff. I mean, what's it going to do to make their marriage bad? Right. Right. Yeah, yeah. I mean, no one who, you know, might have their mind changed by any of that is going to give a shit about any of it. So multiple people have brought up Richard Spencer.

endorsing Joe Biden, Richard Spencer, the noted alt-right neo-Nazi here in America, officially endorsed Joe Biden. And Joe Biden officially renounced his endorsement and called him repugnant and said, no, we don't want your support or whatever. So that did happen. I don't, like, we were also texting about this a little bit last night. Like, I don't. It doesn't matter.

Am I supposed to get, right? am I supposed to give a fuck about this about what, like, I don't give a fuck about any of that dude's other opinions. Like, am I supposed to care about him endorsing Joe? Is that supposed to mean something? Also, I don't see how it does.

I don't believe anything he says. Right, of course. Do I think that he would rather Joe Biden be president? Honestly, do because Trump's presidency has not been good for him. Like, these guys need an enemy in power to fundraise.

and profit off of, right? Right. Like Obama. Like, yeah, like having Obama there for eight years gives them to something point to point at and scream about. Yeah. Which elevates their bullshit. Hate groups and the Obama years were the best years

that hate groups and militias had in years because of the paranoia around having a black president. And he probably won't. And like, look at Trump's, like, since Trump got elected, Richard Spencer has gone broke and his wife. has left him he's living with his mom who another right winger if i remember this story right is another right winger had a rivalry with uh like all right dude swat like had the swat sent to his mom's

house um so i'm saying is the inauguration day when richard spencer was talking about his pepe the frog pin and got punched in the face by a dude from black block that might have been the high point of trump's presidency for richard spencer right yeah yeah like yeah i don't know like i feel like a lot of people were treating it like that was indicative of something but this dude's whole thing is being he's a troll you know like he's a classic troll you don't feed the trolls like who who gives a shit what who he's endorsing or what he's saying you know very close college friends with stephen miller i'm surprised uh stephen miller hasn't gotten him a job in the white house right yeah uh let's see here let's see here

I'll see what we got over. Orion Erickson said, Trey, how stoned are you right now? I'm not stoned at all. The people think you're, the people think you're vapes weed, I think, is what's happening. If y'all think this is weed, it's not. Here's the thing.

I'm one of the biggest lightweights on planet Earth where weed is concerned. I live in California. I do fuck with some legal weed, but very, very, very, very lightly. Like, I'm the type that if I, like, I get like a five milligram gummy and I have to cut it into pieces.

to take it. That's the truth. Because otherwise, I will, I will commune with the void in a fetal position for eight hours if I don't. Like, that's like that with me. So I just can't, I got nothing against it, but I, it, it don't. Well, that is exactly why I take 10 milligrams before I go to sleep. But yeah, I got you. Right. So, people bringing up Kelly Ann Claw, Kelly Ann Conway, who is leaving, apparently. She's, She's taking her leave from Trump country. I don't know. I mean, my knee-jerk reaction to that is that she thinks a big ale is coming.

Like a rat off a sinking ship type of thing. Maybe that's not it, but that's where my head goes. Same thing as Richard Spencer. I don't believe anything these people say or do. Whatever's going on in her family is a tremendous branding exercise. That's one thing that's happening. Because if they successfully established a George, her, and the daughter, now Claudia, as voices on three distinct parts of political online, the daughter makes socialist TikToks

and tweets. The husband is a never-trumper who's making money on that gig now. And now she's well-centered to make a killing in mainstream Republican politics. if she can avoid the ugly downfall, if she can start getting gigs. She'll be on the board of corporations and stop lobbying, especially if Trump wins. So I don't know how much of Claudia's online presence is a hustle

and how much of it is a teenager going through a really rough time. And either way, I don't feel bad giving too much attention to it. And the part of me makes her think she's being honest and just going through a really rough time is she accused her mom of physical abuse. Yeah. So either way, that family needs some intense therapy, either because Claudia is being honest or because she isn't. So either way, it's bad.

Right. Well, we are pretty much out of time. I want to do a quick shout out here, even though I'm not a fan personally, but Mark's Dallas Mavericks. I've been digging what they're doing. Y'all should be watching the NBA playoffs. Fucking 21-year-old Luca Donchick, let me tell you all, this kid is something. else. He's no and they they tipped off an hour ago for all I know. We're down by 20 right now down by 20. That's all right. They've been there. They've been

there before. He'll bring him back down about the same time. That's right. So anyway, yeah, shout out to Luca and the MAVs. And yeah, if you ain't watching basketball, you should be. Shit's hitting. I lived in a, I'm not some like a fair weather fan by the way. I lived in Dallas for 11 years. That's when I became a Maverick. Right. So yeah. All right. All right. Well, that's it for another edition of Evening, Excuse. We'll be back in 48 hours on Thursday. We'll see you right here, same place, same time. Love y'all very much. See you by. Say bye, Mark. Bye, Mark. Bye. Bye. Popeye's family feast. Why has everybody suddenly family with Popeyes hits the table? Feed all those cousins with six pieces of our boldly season signature chicken. Two famous chicken sandwiches, two large mouth-watering sides, and four flaky biscuits. That's enough for cousin coworker, cousin roommate, cousin neighbor, and all his billion cousin kids. You've got all the cousins coming.

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I'm Trey Crowder. That's Mark Aegee. What's up, Mark? What's up, Trey? Oh, this is evening skews. As always, we like to begin on the skews with an update on American Dumbassery. And tonight's no different, except it is a little bit. bit different because tonight we're prognosticating a bit.

You see, we pride ourselves at being on the bleeding edge of dumb shit in this country. And thus, we felt it just wouldn't be right to name a dumbass of the day without first hearing the remarks that are soon to be made by President Donald Trump at the Republican National Convention in a mere matter of hours. So what you're saying is we're Nostra dumbassing. We're Nostra dumbassing. I like it. I like it.

I mean into it. Yeah, we just thought it would be. disingenuous, if not outright, irresponsible to name some other story or some other soundbite as the dumbass clip of the day when we know that the dumbass in chief is yet to speak this very evening. So, Mark, I know we're not, we're not Vegas odds makers or anything, but what do you think is going to be the dumbest shit out of his mouth here in a couple hours? Well, usually in stuff like this, he kind of sticks to the teleprompter, especially with no live crowd the chairman on.

Although they're doing at the White House, right? They probably make some employees stay at a clap room. So I don't know. What I've been reading is that they're expected to have like a crowd of like a thousand people there. Okay. I don't know. I don't know how they're going about who gets to come and who doesn't or how that's,

I don't know the details behind that, but I've read multiple places because obviously he's getting a lot of flack for that, rightfully so, especially after his Tulsa rally or whatever. It's less than he normally packed. into a small area. But yeah, from what I've read, they're expecting like a thousand people at this address at the White House.

So that's a good, dumb-ass start. Yeah, I mean, it is. I would say that I think there's like rapid testing now so they wouldn't have in Tulsa. So maybe it'll be fine. I don't know.

But they would lie about the results anyway, even if a bunch of people test positive because you can't have, like if 500 of those thousand test positive, it's not going to be enough to be a good crowd. So you've got to have the you get us somebody to fire the t-shirt cannons into, you know. Right, absolutely.

So here's one thing I'm wondering about it. Like, a huge factor for Trump or a huge thing he leaned on in 2016 was being, you know, an outsider, draining the swamp and all that. He's not, he's not part of the, you know, bureaucratic machine in Washington. and that was part of the appeal for him for a lot of people. Is he going to keep that up and how do you go about that when you have been the sitting president for four years? You just pretend?

You just pretend. I mean, it's all his hustle in the world. Like, George W. did the same thing. He ran as a Washington. He ran as a Washington outsider in 2000, even though his dad was president, his granddad was a senator. He ran as a, then he ran again as a Washington outside of 2004,

even though I've been a president for four years, presided over 9-11. Yeah, I don't know. It's a weird, it's a weird juke. I don't know. I don't get it. Well, I figure a lot of it will come down to emphasizing how much of an insider

Joe Biden is, you know, because he's a senator with almost 50 years of experience, whatever, and I feel like that's going to be part of the, part of the spin. I mean, they've been shitting on Biden the whole week, obviously, of course, they're going to do that. But I'm saying when it comes, to this particular dynamic, I think that's going to be a lot of the angle there.

It's like, yeah, he's been, Trump's been the sitting president for four years, but Joe Biden has been in government for half a century, and he was, you know, he was there for the preceding eight years, the worst eight years in American history, according to Trump and his ilk. So I figure it's going to be some of that type of shit. There's going to be that, but also when he starts freewheeler, I imagine, he'll imagine we'll talk about Kenosha, which I think we're going to get to later and I could probably talk about

Duke Kamala Bertha stuff even if it's just a brief aside. He can't help himself. Yeah, well that's right. So as part of the whole shit non-Biden and also talking about he's the ultimate insider and that type of thing, I'm sure they're going to keep up the rhetoric that they've already had going all week at the RNC where they talk about like obviously things are terrible

in America right now. Obviously to me but apparently not to everybody. But what they've been trying to do is sort of pitch this idea that things will only be even worse if Biden and the Democrats were in charge, right? And I'm sure that's going to be heavily featured about like the nightmarish dystopia that awaits us all if Joe Biden and Kamala Harris actually win. And part of that will be based upon the idea that they are such extreme progressives that it will just turn us into like, you know, a communist gay sex food stamp factory of a country or whatever.

But, um, I mean, the day after election day, I'm definitely going on and, uh, using the food stamps to buy gay sex. That's the number one thing I'm doing right after. Yeah, for sure. But what, but like the thing about that is, and it was the same way with Obama, too, for me, because I was a huge Obama fan when he was running the first time. I love Obama and I miss him every goddamn day. But, like, this thing, they don't realize that the beef most self-described liberals have with Biden, Obama, Kamala Harris, as Democrats, is that they're nowhere near progressive enough. Do you know what I mean? Like, they talk about them, like, these radicals. But for most of us, the whole issue is that they're too.

moderate in the first place. And I feel like, I'm sure a lot of them like do know that, but I feel like a lot of them also don't realize that. And imagine how freaked out they would be if they really did. Yeah, I mean, I don't, we, I don't know. We got like 100 years of brainwashing poisoning from like, like, like against any sort of left wing movement. The case in point, the NBA stuff, those guys went on strike. We don't have a vocabulary for it because labor movements when so crushed in America, they called it a boycott, which is like somebody at this point. It's using the language of consumers.

A boycott's when you don't buy a product. Right. When you don't go to work with. You withhold your labor. Right. Yeah. When you withhold your labor, that's a strike, which is what the NBA players are doing. But we don't have, like, we don't have a mental framework for it.

Like you try to explain to, like, say, anybody, at a regular American that like, even just 30 years of history ago that ObamaCare was based upon Mitt Romney's health care plan in Massachusetts, which was built upon a Heritage Foundation plan that Newt Gingrich put out an opposition to Hillary Clinton's health care plan in the early 90s. This is literally, ObamaCare is what Newt Gingrich proposed in 1994 as a market-based solution. So like Democrats govern like the right-wing parties in England and are treated as though their left-wing parties in North Vietnam. And it's pretty interesting. Yeah. Getting right back to that, but a quick comment about the mustache.

I get a lot of them. Larry Mears said, careful, Trey, that mustache is beginning to look like it belongs on a Confederate general. You know what, Larry, like, why not a Union general? We all know why. Because of how I sound, because of my accent. No, but you're right. I've been, the self-roast I've been doing about the mustache is that I've got a whole Confederate barista thing going on. I feel like that sort of sums up what I'm doing here.

And I'm just going to do this because it's an important fact check for me. The like 300,000 Southerners fought for the Union. You could very well have been a Union General. Yeah, even with this accent, Larry. Anyway, back to what we were talking about. Yeah, I used to have, like, at my old job back in Tennessee, and I worked with a lot of, like, you know, young professional Republicans, like not not redneck old boys from my hometown is my point

people who are like you know more articulate generally speaking about their arguments and things like that and this was during the Obama era and they obviously just hated Obama couldn't stand him and we would have we would have discussions about it and I would tell them like I was a huge Obama fan but then I would say like but you know look I've been disappointed by a lot of things about Obama too

and they would like seize on that as like right yeah you know what I'm talking about and you know it was like no no I mean in the exact opposite direction the reasons I've been upset with Obama is because he's nowhere near it hasn't been anywhere near progressive or liberal enough for my case you know and they think that he was like the car marks of American presidents whatever car Marx have been black yeah you're disappointed in Obama uh because he he drones too many Afghans and they're disappointed Obama, droning Afghans didn't make him erect. Right. Yes, right.

I feel like another thing that's going to come up in this speech because I already talked about it in a lot of the other speech so far has to do with law and order. They did the whole law and I mean, they always do the law and order thing. Law and order was a huge part of the campaign in 2016 too, and they're still leaning on it right now. Last night, Mike Pence was talking about the law and. law, the general lawlessness in American liberal cities like, uh, Minneapolis and Portland and Kenosha, he said,

but there's never any mention of like, what precipitates these protests or where any of that is coming from. Um, and like one, like just for example, there's been a lot of other protests in the past, in the, during the Trump presidency,

right? Obviously there were people on Trump side protesting the, the country being shut down because of coronavirus earlier this spring, but also other liberal protests, like the women's marches and the women's protest,

right after Trump was inaugurated like January of 2017, stuff like that, like, I mean, frankly, white people protest, white people on both sides, right? And people aren't getting

fucking shot at those protests. Do you know what I mean? Like, people aren't getting just violently put down at those protests and why not? Like, how do you explain that other than the obvious? I forget which it was either at Michigan or Wisconsin when the open up protests when

open carry people pushed past cops with loaded rifles and occupied a statehouse and were intimidating legislator to leave the building is the occupied the gallery with weapons, which is, you know, maybe you should. more restrictive gun laws if you're if you're if you if you if you if you if you don't be in a room with open care of people maybe you should pass a law that well you can't get carried guns into the state house and that none of those guys got shot you know exactly and so following on to that and kind of transitioning a little bit to talk about connocia and all that for a minute um there's multiple uh reports and everything about this

so at protested canosha after jacob lake was shot at the protest that resulted from that two three people were shot two people shot to death by a pro-Trump 17-year-old gun-carrying lunatic from nearby in Illinois. What was the guy's name? I had it pulled up here earlier. It's fucking... Kevin. I forget.

It doesn't matter. Help me out here. Call him Chud. Yeah, you're right. It doesn't matter. But anyway, so Trump guy who had Kyle Rittenhouse. his name. Sorry, that's my bag. It's all written now. 17-year-old pro-Trump guy on his

Twitter pages, he says, like, I'm just trying to be famous. He imposed a multiple TikTok videos of him and Trump rallies and things like that. He goes to the protest in Kenosha and ends up murdering people. And he has been arrested and he has been charged with murder. But there's multiple

reports and videos and stuff from the protests and that happened that shows the cops at those protests like giving him water but you know helping him along basically it's 17 year old with a gun right and the cops are like you know glad to have you thank thanks for being here

yeah I mean up using video to video of like police officers dapping up proud boys and doing like the covert okay signed at him and stuff like that which is I mean it's a big chosen aside and it's not the side of loan order by the way and I don't like the phrase makes less sense to me than it ever has in my life because it doesn't it's meaningless It just means you obey the rules so I don't have to, which is the weirdest thing.

Law and order aren't even the same concept because a certain, an ordered society tolerates a ton of disorder so people can speak. Like we, we have a ton of free society is to balance a ton of stuff, right? But you have, right now we have a open carry, right? You have a First Amendment. Now, those are in conflict, obviously, when someone, when he shows up with a gun to threaten people who are expressing the First Amendment rights. And the rule of a law enforcement officer should be to try to be trying to find a balance. Like be like, hey, guys with a gun, maybe you stand further back.

Maybe we keep these because the side's a little apart. So both sides can be doing what they're supposed to be doing in a free society, right? That's a lot of this is managing human behavior that can't be written down on a page as a rule to be followed. It's just coaching people through social situations, right? And that would be a functional role for law enforcement. this scenario, but instead they picked the side and apt the arm side up and two people are dead and the other guy got shot in the arm. And right.

Sorry. No, no, no, go ahead. Finish what finish your thought. Oh, it's just like people trying, I've seen a couple different, like TikTok, like not TikTok the app, but like try to figure out timestamp of what happened in what order. Because I haven't really seen a good explanation of what actually started the violence here, although it's pretty clear that after he shot the first guy, whatever precipitated that,

because people are saying you threw a Molotov cocktail over the slowed down the video show, they're throwing a paper bag with something in it, although one angle looked like maybe it was on fire, a flaming bag, or poo or something, I don't know. So he kills that guy, and then other people see him commit murder and try to do, you know, stop him,

which you're supposed to do with a mass shooter, right? The right wing has been saying, all you just rush them. And that's what we've been coaching school kids to do, is to rush shooters and mass shooter situations. So they do that. But people say, oh, well, they attack temps. So that's self-defense. That's the new spin on it now.

Well, who's not to be a vigilantean who isn't? Because he shot a guy and he took a gun to a place to defend buildings. And he's a vigilante who you support. But the vigilantes are trying to stop a guy shooting people. They deserve to get murdered because they're attacking a guy. So who's really... Right. And just to act like,

I don't know. I feel like a lot of them would be, were, you know, frame the argument as people trying to maintain law and order and then anarchist vigilantes on the other side and that's what's going on. And race doesn't factor into it. But what, but what,

what definition is you're shooting people in the head to stop a window from me of broken? Like, how is that maintaining orders instead of being more disordered, you know? Right. Well, it's like we talked about on Tuesday talking about Jacob Blake. Like, You people already, like what happens every single time the police shoot a guy.

They start talking about all the other things this guy had done prior to being shot by the police. But every time, so far, every single time, like, look, if a dude has a gun and is shooting at cops and he gets shot back, yeah, that's just what happens. Like, you know, you can't be doing that. It should be a last resort. But what always happens every single time one of these cases comes up is that it's like, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't care. I don't give a shit what else he did before that. It didn't, it should not, it doesn't justify being executed.

And Jacob Blake is not, he's not dead. He's alive, but he was paralyzed. But still, like, none of those arguments hold any water for me at all because none of those things should result in a death sentence. I don't care if the person liked meth or whatever the fuck. They shouldn't be shot over it. his dad said he's handcuffed to the hospital bed. The guy lost the ability to walk and his needs to be on life support.

Right. They have him handcuffed to the bed. Yes. And so another thing about this, like I said, that people try to frame it as though it's not, it isn't racially motivated. It's like, oh, no, it's anarchist and whatever else, but they don't bring race into it. The R&C, multiple speakers this week have explicitly stated that we don't have a problem with systemic racism. Nikki Haley was like, they say America is a racist country.

I'm telling you right now, America is not a racist country, things like that. She said that. She said America's not a racist country, and then she immediately pivoted to how much prejudice her parents' face and they first moved here

and how they overcame it to achieve the American dream. Right. But I just don't know how, watch this clip, I'm about to show, and me and you have both seen it, but for all the viewers,

watch this clip and look me in the face and tell me that none of this shit is racial at all. Mark, tell me if you don't hear audio. The thing is this isn't this is from 2018 this clip. You're right. You're right.

Still though, this dude is, this is the sheriff of Kenosha, and you're right, this clip is not related to Jacob Blake. This is 2018 when they had a spade of like shoplifting. When you listen to this clip, know that it's about five shopwifers got caught. Shoplifting. Yes, shoplifting.

And again, this dude is still he's the sheriff still this clip is old but he's still this guy but anyway

so listen to this and Mark if you don't hear anything tell me immediately so I can fix it all right here we go society has to come

to a threshold where there's some people that aren't worth saving we need to build warehouses to put these people into it and lock them away

for the rest of their lives let's put them in jail let's stop them from truly, at least some of these males going out and getting 10 other women pregnant and having small children, let's put them away. At some point, we have to stop being politically correct and I don't care what race, I don't care how old they are. If there's a threshold that they cross, these people have to be warehouse, no recreational time.

The redoubt is in the jails. We put them away. We put them away for the rest of their lives so that the rest of us can be better. Right, exactly. So, yes, people should be warehoused, sterilized, locked up forever away from the rest of society for shoplifting. And again, of course, like they always do,

he makes a point in the middle of that to say, I don't care what race you are or whatever, but dude, watch that shit and tell me that he ain't talking about, fucking black people. Yeah. Well, he's also like the extremely coded language when he says from getting women

pregnant and having small children, last time I checked everyone who has children has small children, but these are apparently especially small useless children these people are having, which is a real problem for society. We got to figure out. I don't know. Yeah, so I just like, I don't. And so

also, as a side note, that is, that's the sheriff in Kenosha. There also is a police chief, right? It's a city-county situation. And the police chief this week, when asked about the people who were murdered by written house by the 17-year-old, he said, here's what he said. He said, quote, everybody involved was out after the curfew.

I'm not going to make a great deal of it, but the point is the curfews in place to protect people. Have persons not been out involved in violation? of that perhaps the situation that unfolded would not have happened if it is the persons who this is not the action i believe of those who set out to do protests is the persons who were involved after the legal time involved in illegal activity that brought violence to this community so still very very thinly veiled straight up blaming the protesters for being shot by a 17 year old also the curfew has nothing

curfews are a pretext to give police license to beaten arrest right yes just for existing like right that's the only reason that curfews like that exist is so that if they have a curfew you don't have to be doing anything other

than existing after a certain point on the clock for them to retaliate if you're if you're if you're protesting and 759, you're a good citizen, 801, you're carrying your ass to jail. You're air vigilante, yeah.

And it's also like, here in L.A., our experience was as soon as they stopped having the curfews, there were no more confrontations. Literally, there's the curfew escalated conflict because police would, you know, put on the riot shields and charge into crowds. Once you stop in the curfew, the same 759 protest kept on happening until 11, then people went home peacefully. It's literally just the police charging into crowds to enforce an arbitrary curfews. And also, let's talk about a ridiculous it is to have a curfew.

It's like, we fucked up and shot a dude. We shouldn't have shots. Now, all your ass is up to go to bed at 805 p.m. It's fucking stupid. Yeah. Right. Well, yeah, and it's also like related to that. Again, like we alluded to it earlier, but they talk about like the burning of public

buildings and shit like that or looting and riding and windows getting broken and whatever else. But like, they never, ever bring up. why those gatherings even existed in the first place. First of all, obviously, you know, I've been to a bunch of protests here in L.A. I, there have been protests in L.A. where shit like that has gone down. I have not seen any of that ever. And regardless, even at the ones where there was fucking looting and that sort of thing,

98% of the people there are not doing it. But furthermore, no one would be. there gathering in any capacity if you hadn't murder another guy. And they never address the cause of any of these symptoms that we're all

seeing. The coverage of the shooter in Kenosha, the 17 year old Kyle kid, the stories still blend the protesters. It'll say stuff like 17 year old kid

arrested in connection with shooting deaths that happened at Kenosha protests that turned violent. It's like, well, who turned it violent and how was it connected? And what side was he on? And, you know, I don't know. I don't understand. I don't want to do the outside agitator thing and all that dumb shit because what happens here is everybody's vilifying their neighbors. Like their neighbors are some sort of like invading horde. And this kid, apparently, it was across state lines, but it was only like a, it was close by.

his mom drove him up to shoot people. Right, yes. His mom dropped him off for the murder. It's not too. It's so fucking everything is so ridiculous right now. But yeah, like he, so he goes up there with a gun thinking he's going to like help the police control this lawlessness or whatever the fuck. And then he gets there and the police are extremely receptive to him and supporting what he's doing and all this. And then, so, you know, why wouldn't he feel empowered to just to shoot some of these obvious criminals, you know, in this guy's mind because of the message that has been sent by the other side as it relates to all of this shit, you know?

Yeah, and I mean, the police aren't exactly, I mean, no. No police department in the United States right now, thanks to the war on terror, is underarmed. You see this random police departments in Ferguson, Missouri, in Kenosha, Wisconsin. The minute something goes wrong, they look like characters from Call of Duty or Halo. They do not need your help. The only thing you're doing, and this is how they used him, is you get to be more violent than they can while the cameras are on. Right. And they applaud the liability.

Yeah, another thing about that, I used to, as I mentioned multiple times before, I used to work for the federal government my old day job, to work for the Department of Energy, but still, as part of that, we had a lot of training, you know, the society we live in nowadays, we had a lot of, we had yearly training on active shooter situations, how to handle an active shooter. and law enforcement was always involved in those trainings and every single time they made a huge point a huge point in any active shooter training from law enforcement of do not get involved like if you are if you are present for something like that we don't we don't want you coming out with your gun

and trying to be fucking Batman or whatever Batman don't use guns but you know you get the point because, and this is obvious, like, we're not going to know, we see you with a gun trying to be a vigilante, we're just going to see a guy with a gun, you know, and you're going to get shot. All you do is complicate matters. They preach that shit to death when it comes to just regular active shooter

trainings, but then a white kid shows up to a racially motivated protest with a gun, and they're just giving him water and shit, and that's all fine. You know what I mean? Like, something's very fucky there, is my point. And it's pretty obvious,

it's pretty obvious what is behind it all. Yeah, it was two white dudes that got killed, right, or one of them was at least, I know.

Right. The guy got shot in the arm was a white dude. He apparently had a gun, but of course, one guy gets to defend himself with a gun, the other guy doesn't.

I don't know. Right. So, related to this, a rare story on the evening skews from the world of sports. Oh, before we move on, Fokosha, I did, like, just know, we've, like, feeling things are getting worse, but just know it's always kind of been this bad. Someone was reading Mixandland and supposed to screen grabs from it.

After Kent State, 58% of people surveyed thought that the National Guard was right to kill those four college students. And the local newspaper was flooded with positive letters. thanking the National Guard for killing those college students. And this one lady they interviewed said, she was proud of the guard and the person was like, well, your three sons were out there. And she said, well, if they didn't follow orders,

they should have been mowed down to. So yeah. OK, I didn't know any of that. I mean, like, I guess I'm not that surprise. But no, I didn't know that. That's crazy. And also like, I'm sure you can find plenty of people racist or well, not even right.

Well, I'm sure they're, people would also be racist, but like just hardcore conservatives, still out there today who, if you got into the conversation with the Kent State situation with them, would say basically the same thing. Like, yeah, it was justified or whatever.

But, I'm sure you could find those people, but generally speaking, the way we look back upon the Kent State, I mean, it's a matter, the Kent State massacre. It was a massacre. You don't you know what I mean? Like, the way it's like sort of taught and generally discuss,

outside of like extremist motherfuckers is like what a stain on modern American history this was, what a tragedy this was that this happened. And because what's all history works and progress works. You know what I mean? Yeah. We're going to be saying the same same thing about this shit. Yeah. However many years, 40 years later or whatever, however far removed we are from Kent State now.

People, a lot of their kids and they're allowed themselves about where they were at the time. what happened was we lost Vietnam, everyone generally conceded that Vietnam was a bad idea, and therefore the kids at Kent State were right. And so I agree with them, of course, obviously. It's just like, like they've been tons of surveys. Like if you ask everyone who was alive at the time, like 70% of people say they voted for JFK. But he barely won that election and probably had some cheating in Chicago to get across the line. And so they're obviously lying.

my friend, a funny version is my friend, his mom swears the first time she voted for president was for JFK, except he did the math and she was 16 in that election. And he was like, but mom, you couldn't have voted for JFK. She still insists she voted for JFK

and she was 18, even though she was born two years too late to have done that. So, right. Yeah. Right. Because I think, I think there's a thing in most all people that they want to be like, they want to have been on the right side of a thing, right?

But when you, but we try to make that argument to people who are, you know, super into law and order right now or, you know, whatever, pick your scenario, the argument of like, how are you going to explain this shit to your grandkids? You know what I mean? Like, you don't think they're going to be ashamed of you. And it doesn't make any kind of impact on people right now, even though thousands of years of history illustrated. that that's exactly what's going to happen. Like, it is going to be shameful in 50 years, less than 50 years. But like, your grandchildren are going to be ashamed of you for shit like that. And so what's probably going to happen statistically is you're going to end up lying about it to them.

Like, like you were just describing. So why not try to do better in the moment, you know, but people can't see it that way. I mean, we can't have any conversation in this country without like going immediately to level 10. Like, for example, like a fairly benign request after all these videos is like, hey, we need to do something to in a minimum have figured a way to get police to be less quick to pull the trigger, you know, in general, right? It seems like a fairly straightforward ask for good government purposes, because these are, these are people that are funny about taxpayers. Here's like just shoot less people. And then immediately people go, well, that's communism. I don't even understand how the two things connect.

We actually argued about, does anybody think police shooting more people is good? And, but you look at, but we do this with everything, man. Look at like, like I was reading about, um, we were talking about masks a week ago and I was looking at like the same arguments people had about seat belts in the 90s, that people were saying that that was a step towards totalitarianism to have, to have seatbelt laws. Is anyone going to stand up? right now and be like I would I said in 1995 or whatever that seatbelts were going to lead to authoritarian

communism and by God I was proven correct yeah yeah right and um yes I mean like it just you're 100 percent right that every everything to a little 10 immediately we're so polarized right now and that's such a huge part of it like I've people and I think people on both sides do this thing, but still, you meet someone who's on the opposing side from you, like in the macro sense, generally speaking, and we have this tendency right now in America to immediately place that person on the extreme end of that spectrum, you know what I mean, without actually talking to them at all. Like I go, you know, I'm from a very small town in Tennessee. I'm from the rural, deep south. I still go, back there every year when there's not a fucking pandemic going on.

And I still, I'm still friends and hang out with, uh, all the guys I went to high school with, you know, like a lot, we're still close. And a lot of us are fellow, uh, liberal rednecks. A lot of them are on the same side as me, but some of them are not. Some of them are more, you know, stereotypical in that way with their political

leanings. And we have these conversations, we're like, and it's like verbatim, an actual conversation, you know, one of my buddies I grew up with will come, you know, will come up to me or where they're on the lake or whatever and just be like i just don't understand why you think why you believe i shouldn't be able to own a gun you know like i'm like you know me like i'm a i'm a family man i got kids my i like to hunt you know like you know me tray i ain't gonna what's wrong with me owning a gun why do you believe i shouldn't be able to own a gun it's always like, I don't believe that, Kobe.

Like, I don't even a little bit believe that, you know? What I actually believe is, and start laying, you know, like, there are plenty of people in this country who shouldn't own a gun because they're lunatics or they're extremists or whatever, and it shouldn't be easy for them to, for these people to get a gun, you know, and actually, like, lay it out. And, you know, the guy's always like, typically ends up being like, yeah, well, I agree with that like we end up discovering we pretty much agree we agree on 95% of it where that particular issue is concerned you know most people they automatically put me in that at that other 5% or whatever

without even actually talking to me about it and again i think people on both sides do that but it's what leads to a lot of the bullshit we have yeah i mean so social media is as we do this show on facebook social media is a disease that leaves people unable to see humanity to anyone else. You do add it into camps real quick. But you actually talk to a person, you realize you do agree on 97%. You might rank your order of priorities differently, right? Whereas like if your kid got shot in a mass shooting, a school, gun control might be your number one issue. But if you live in a border state and work in a factory, stopping illegal immigration,

might be your number one. You know, it's like, but things get ranked in different priority orders, but people tend to agree generally on stuff. Like there was a great special Jordan Klepper did a couple years ago where he interviewed people in all different hands of the gun range of the gun debate and everyone generally agreed like 90% and the polling supports it 90% of people. Like there's a huge guy who like had 500 guns and makes his living doing like machine gun instruction who was like, yeah, I mean, why?

Why wouldn't I wait three days? Right. I don't want somebody who has five convictions for beating women to own a gun. Why would it be in favor of that? Right. There are debates are stupid and they're heightened by media apparatuses who make money off conflict, you know. Yeah. And, you know, like I'm saying people on both sides do it, but I mean, hell, I remembered another story about me doing the same thing.

my wife is from a different but very similar culturally extremely rural area in tennessee on the other end of the state her family's all you know they're rednecks and shit and i was back there the last time we went back there i was on the porch and her uncle shows up uh been drinking tequila right and i know this guy like him but he's like he's red as fuck it's her uncle orby his name's orby told me that ain't a red ass but he's sitting out there on the porch and he's knows I'm the liberal queer in the family or whatever and so he gets into guns right and he's like he's like look he he goes in this whole thing and he goes he goes the only thing wrong with buying a gun in the United States of America and in my head I'm like oh Jesus here we go but he goes

the only thing wrong with buying a gun in the United States of America is that it's too goddamn easy to do and I was like I did not see that guy's not where I thought you were going with that uncle but you know but and then again we had a conversation about it and pretty much agreed on most of it and that's how that shit tends to go if you actually see it through but you know like we said that's not the starting point a lot of people have all right so uh I did want to at least mention in the last episode a mirror two days ago we signed off talking about the NBA and how great it was how great the playoffs had been, like, from an entertainment perspective. I was like, if you ain't watching the NBA playoffs, you should be.

And then yesterday, albeit temporarily, the NBA playoffs got canceled because of these exact issues we're talking about. The Milwaukee Bucks, Milwaukee, Wisconsin is like, Kenosha is like a subway of Milwaukee. Like, they're essentially the same place. And the Milwaukee Bucks refused to take the floor yesterday against the Orlando Magic. They took a stand. And then after that happened, it set off the sort of dominance.

no effect where the rest of the players and the rest of the teams also took a stand and started and like you mentioned this earlier people were saying the players are boycotting the league but as you pointed out no they're not they're not boycotting anything they're on a strike they went on strike as a response to this uh the situation we have you know and like they're they're in the bubble down there they're not allowed to leave they've been there for like weeks at this point too much they feel yeah i'm sure they feel very very helpless right and like what else are they supposed to do um so they they took a stand and they ended up they had a bunch of meetings among the players they've ended up they're gonna they resume the

playoffs but like i felt last nine and thinking about it i don't know how you feel about it but i feel like i think you can make an argument in either direction because as far as just like the players go because there were, you know, there were a lot of players like, you know, fuck this, we're striking, we got to do something, and this is doing something. And of course, I respect and support that. But there were also a lot of people, and not just players, and us too, like,

Barkley, Kenny the Jet Smith walked off the set of inside the NBA in support of the players striking. So he was basically saying, like, yeah, fuck this. we're done, you know, we're taking a stand. But Charles Barkley and other analysts and other players, their position was, why not use this platform that we have, this massive platform that we have, to continue the conversation. You know what I mean?

And I personally, I think that's a valid argument too, you know, like you make your point, but I definitely think there's something to be said about, like, keeping the cameras on you while you say the right thing. Do you know what I mean? Well, I mean, I think they got way more attention than they've been getting by doing this big dramatic. For sure. So I think that this was a huge compromise position because they're going to, I guess,

restart basketball in a couple days. But I think we talk about this stuff tactically and strategically instead of like on a basic humanity level. Like people talk about like whether, how the point. protesters should be behaving. And the thing is, they're not organized. It's a community expressing rage. Right.

We're not thinking tactically or strategically or how it affects the election. They're fucking pissed. And they want you to know they're pissed because no one's listened to them for hundreds of years. Yeah, shut up and dribble. Yeah. So the buck specifically, not only from the area where Jacob Blake got shot, but they, Bucks players Sterling Brown

that plays with the Bucks two years ago he's in the middle of a big lawsuit because he parked in a handicraft spot at a convenience store. Cops rolled up he shouldn't have parked in a handicraft spot, right? This is one of those things where I'm not defending, give him a ticket, right? But he had his hands in his pockets.

It made the cops nervous. He had his hands in his pockets. So they tased him and beat him and cuffed him and arrested him, right? And so he's a little bit lost against them. Bucks had a player named John Henson. It was a big incident like three or four years ago. He's not with the team anymore.

But he was trying, he's a wealthy guy. He plays in the NBA. He was trying to go buy some jewelry at a high-end store, and they wouldn't buzz him in because he didn't look like a guy who could afford high-end jewelry. And then also there were Bucks players who played with Tabo Svelotia, who was a guy who was with the Knicks and got beaten by police and got his leg broken a couple years ago. So this isn't just like... And his career ended, right?

Like, he didn't play anymore after that. I'm not, I can't say. I'm not sure about that. I haven't heard his name in a broadcast for a while, so that tracks. But he was also suing him by PD. And there were guys on the bucks who were his teammates at the time. So it might, again, when I'm saying this might not be strategic. It might not have been a protest movie.

They might have been two fucking piss to play. Do you know, like, it might just been like, you know, screw this, man. the Kyle kid had just killed two people at a protest no accountability from the police. They're just like, I don't want to play. I want to make a big statement. I don't want to call the Attorney General

and fucking yell at him, which is what they did. And people like, well, what did it accomplish? Well, they were playing the Orlando Magic was owned by Betsy DeVos's family. And the DeVos family had to come out and support the magic also not playing. Yeah, yes. I mean, like you said,

it brought way more attention than they would have by just continuing to play the games with the messages on their jerseys and all that, which is also great. But it definitely was effective in that way. And people were like, well, what are they, what do they want to happen? What are the NBA owners supposed to do, you know, like shit like that? But you're talking about billionaires. In this country, you start taking money out of billionaires' pockets. And shit will happen, like undeniably. You know what I mean?

Yeah. We all, we live in a fucking plutocracy. The billionaires are the ones who control everything. And you start taking away their nut. And that's how shit actually happened. Now, we can affect change in other ways, too. But I'm saying, I don't know how you could even make the argument that something like that wouldn't be effective. But I also, I'm saying,

I'm not going to hate on any player or anybody involved in the NBA who feels the other way about it that I was saying, you know, what I was saying earlier. Like, the idea that we can, we've got all the eyes on us now from doing what we did. Now we can use that to continue the, you know, the conversation and whatnot as opposed to just going away. Like if they just went away, it would be talked about for the next little bit for sure. but I guarantee you it would not be talked about in mainstream media for the amount of time that the playoffs will end up going for. So I mean, I think there's something to be said for that argument too, but I think that what they did is commendable and, you know, I'm all for it for sure. I mean, they, not to get too deep into like NBA player finances and financing, but they risked a lot of money. and livelihoods and a lot of these guys aren't rich.

Like LeBron is, the NBA has his own wealth inequality system, but like LeBron makes $40 million a year and it's 10% of his income. And other guys are on like $800,000 of your contracts. And if you only play half the year and you take off 15% off the top and have to maintain two residences and you're only going to be in the league three years and you've got to try and stretch it out over to live on the rest of your life, while you also go try to get a job selling cars. It's a big difference in their life.

And they, they, I'm not. saying they're going to be poor, but they live closer to, you know, to check the check than we imagine they do a lot of them. Yeah. Right. And also, like, you know, they're, like, that's the thing. Again, a lot of people have this idea of shut up and dribble or whatever, like, they're just there to be entertaining and whatnot. But with the billions and dollars involved, like, and also all just all the kids that look up to pro athletes and stuff, like, these guys, not just in the NBA, but just professional athletes, they have a huge amount

of influence, you know, and a massive platform, like undeniably. And people want to tell them to just shut the fuck up and do their thing. But, you know, and this is true for a lot of conservatives, a lot of rednecks, too. You take sports completely away for these issues

for a long enough amount of time. And I guarantee you it would change some changing people's minds. There's a quote that has become famous on the internet, and I can't remember the source of it. I just see it parroted it a lot, which I agree with, which is that sports are the reward for a functioning society. It's a major league baseball player that said it,

but I blank a man. Who's something about COVID? But yeah. Yeah, but yeah, but that's, you know, that's fucking spot on, in my opinion. Like, you know, you want,

you want to be able to sit back and eat your peanuts and enjoy, you know, fucking gladiator shit, then everything else needs to be in place for that to happen. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I just, I was trying to look for it and I found it, but you want to know, like, one thing they accomplished. So the Rockets owner is a big Trump supporter named Tillman for Tita. He's a funny because he's like one of those flop-swet, half-broke rich dudes,

who's like, like, who's finances or teetering, you know, teetering pyramid. But all he also, his family made their money being in the Houston Mafia. So there's that. But he was forced to, you know,

Trump said his dumb shit about the NBA today. And he had to come out and rebuke him. This is a guy who's on CNBC basically every day talking about. He was like Landry's Steakhouse and a bunch of restaurants and shit,

the bubble gum trim factory and all that stuff. So like he had to come out and, um, what was this quote? He castes a rebuke. He says, you know, the human beings and they have the right to do

whatever they want to do. And we're partners in this and they choose not to play. That's their right. Okay. And it hurts them financially and it hurts us financially. And it hurts them all the other ways and it hurts us all the other ways. And that's just the way it is. And so I try to think of it as a apology, you know.

And basically it was cast as a rebuke of Trump who he was at the West like, you know, pretty regularly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But, but again, you know, just having said all of that, I'm thrilled on a, you know, selfish and personal level that the playoffs will continue. you because as I said Tuesday they have been hitting but yeah I'm all for them you like basketball too let's see yeah I like basketball um let's see what you guys are saying over here uh well yeah yeah yeah yeah let's see um while I'm waiting on some of these to come through uh something I saw earlier apparently

Nancy Pelosi said in a press conference that in her opinion Joe Biden should refuse to debate Donald Trump because she said that Joe Biden shouldn't legitimize his bullshit. She didn't say bullshit. I would not legitimize that conversation with him.

And I don't know how you feel about this smart, but I go back and forth on the idea that I don't think, like I think you were talking about like strategy or whatever. Sure, Biden, things are going correct for Biden right now as far as the numbers and all that go. So like you may not need it or whatever, but the other part of me is like, dude, if you can't, like, fuck him.

Like, he, look at how he talks about things and the way he argues. And like, you just, I feel like if I was in Joe Biden's shoes, I'd be chomping at the bit to take that motherfucker down me personally. Yeah, I mean, I guess the, I mean, I don't really know what debate to do anymore. I mean, everybody thought Hillary smashed him at all three debates in 2016 and he won the election. So I don't know how to swayed. I don't know if anybody's persuadable with that stuff anymore. The theatrics, I guess, matter more than the substance.

And so the risk is Biden says something stupid or he has one of his sundowning moments and flubs a bunch of stuff. Strategically, it bothers me way more that he doesn't have a single field office and no one's doing any door knocking. He's doing the same thing Hillary did, but didn't know operation of Wisconsin or whatever. So, all right, here we've got some comments for you. Look here. This one's from YouTube. by the name there. 1400 says, come on. No one likes

Nancy Pelosi. If her if her keeps being if he I'm sure I'm sure he keeps being basement Biden, he will lose by a landslide. I just don't like it just doesn't seem to be the case for me. Like if you and Tam Alex says punch back and I again on a personal level I agree with that but I feel like

If you're talking about strategy, you can't really argue with the way it's going so far. Like, if he's going to, like, bury himself and continue to do so, then fucking let him do it. By the way, he's doing a ton of media appearances, and he's doing, like, a lot. Like, he's doing, you know, online speeches and he's giving interviews to every outlet that'll talk to him. He's not, like, this basement thing is, like, he's not doing rallies, but do you want a 77-year-old guy traveling around a lot in the middle of a pandemic? right because if he if he if he ends up on a ventilator that's that's not going to help

yeah Cerberus the guardian of the river of hell if I'm not mistaken the guardian of the entrance of hell three-headed dog the three-headed dog the three-headed dog who guards Hades down there says the guy who wants to

debate knows he's losing you know that we're talking This is about Pelosi saying this about Biden. I'm not seeing Biden out here calling for the debates or whatever. But on that note, related to what I'm saying, I feel like if you get to a point where Trump is like calling you out for refusing to debate, I would fucking do it.

You got to do it. Like he, like, there's other people who are commenting like, I don't trust Biden's capabilities or whatever. But dude, like he, I mean,

you're right about what you. you said, Mark, I also agree. In 2016, I thought, I thought Hillary Clinton dusted his ass in every debate, but it didn't get represented that way. But still, man. All the reviews were like, the one was, the famous one was Chuck Todd saying she seemed too prepared or whatever. But that was, that was like going criticism, but the polling show like 70, 30, she won every debate.

It just didn't matter to anyone. It just didn't matter. And it probably won't matter. But I just, I don't know. Maybe it's like, maybe it's like the fucking redneck in me or something. And if it gets to a point where they're called, you know, like, it's basically insinuating that you're a coward for not debating him or something. Like, no, you can't have that.

Go out there and whip his ass. But Cerberus is right at the dynamic as old as time. If you, uh, um, Lisa Parker, I'd say no. Right. Well, debates move the needles at all. And no. I think that's kind of what we're saying right now. And I do agree with you, Mark, that it, you know, they probably won't.

Unless one of these old, old, p's his pants or wanders off stage and literally collapses. I don't think it does anything. But the, what service is they, yeah, the person who is losing wants more debates. There are two separate West Wing plot lines about this.

There's a go back to 2016 where Bernie wanted 10 debates and Hillary wanted two and they did three or four or whatever. It's always the dynamic. Yeah. Roger Thompson says, I think Pelosi was just cornering slash goading Trump to show up.

I mean, I, you know, I can see that too. He certainly hates Pelosi and he also, it's funny because I'm sitting here saying like, you can't let him talk shit, but obviously Trump had a lot of that in him too. Where, you know, anybody says anything remotely negative about him and he takes

extremely personally. So. On Twitter, he's a coward face to face. Right. Yep. uh, Tammy Smith rebuking with um earlier Tammy Smith. I love Nancy Pelosi.

I'm not a huge fan, but I like you, Tammy. Karen K.A. says, I can just imagine Joe, if they're shaking his head and saying, what the hell are you talking about, man? For two hours. You can't argue with stupid. No, but you know, you can try. Susan Carr, Mama Kamala will kick ass.

A lot of people are talking about the vice presidential debates. And we brought them up on here before. that you know and I said this last time too but no I would like to see that but also like Mike Pence is he allowed to debate a woman alone on stage like well his wife allow that does his faith allow that to happen you know yes we'll see uh best let's see here Lisa Parker the best option for a debate is for Biden to pick three points ignore any questions Palin style and well on though. Yeah, that's basically what they all ignore the question and pivot to what they want.

That's true. And they're judged on how artfully they do that, which is the bullshit part of the process. They'd be like, oh, great performance, didn't answer any questions. It's great for democracy. Right. But again, like you said, they do, they all do that. It's one of the things that infuriates me the most about politicians is that they have that inclination to just straight up ignore the actual question.

say whatever the hell they were going to say anyway. I'll do it right. Ask me a question like I'm a presidential candidate, Trey. Mark, what do you think about the situation with the border and immigration? Do you feel that it really is a problem with kids being put in cages or is this being blown out of portion? I, of course, disagree with the president about putting kids in cages, but the voters I talk to, they're more concerned with health care, Trey.

That's why I want to talk about my health care plan. You got it. Paul Covert says, Biden is doing fine. Just let Trump talk. And again, I mean, I think, I think there's a lot of validity

to that argument as well. I just don't think, again, just on a, like, not a personal level, but I don't know. Like, I don't like,

I don't like looking, I don't like appearing as if you are afraid to debate fucking Donald Trump, me personally. I don't think it's afraid. It's a, tell me who looks bad.

The guy who's thirsty as shit, chasing around and begging you to debate him. Right. We have one of our other commenters, and I've forgotten the name, but they said the person begging for a debate is the person who's losing. I was a three-headed hound.

Hellhound. Yeah. Apparently, and I'll be honest, I guess I missed this in the news cycle, but we're getting a lot of comments about this. Mary Freyley said Trump calling for drug tests, yes,

but do it fairly and let them know when it's coming. So Trump brought up, he said that Joe Biden should be drug tested before a debate or something. That's what a lot of people are saying over here. What? Do you know about that? Yeah, I don't know about that either.

But just as a general note, fuck random drug test. Trump challenges Biden to drug tests. Trump challenges Biden to drug. drug test before debate. Okay. What does he think he's on? Right.

I don't, yeah. Because Trump's the one with the rumored speed addiction. Do people know that? That Trump's pretty well documented to be a speed addict? Yeah, I don't, um, I don't know. It's like that thing with the fucking cognitive test or whatever, you know, or Trump aced it when like anyone could ask it who, doesn't have Alzheimer's and then was

demanding that Joe Biden taking and Joe Biden wouldn't dignify that. He would, you know, he laughed it off every time and he should have laughed it off. And that's how I would look at this situation too. Yeah, my problem with Trump isn't the European cold medicine

crystal meth substitute. If it was helping, if it was keeping awake 24-7 to be a good president instead of the live tweet and toilet it for him, I wouldn't give a shit. So like, I don't care about his drug problem. It's like baseball, man. Hit more Homer.

I don't care. Load them up. Let's end on this one, Mark. Joseph John Gonzales says, you two suck. I'm out. All right. Joseph,

you get out of here, buddy. We're getting out of here, too. But thank you all for joining us on another edition of you, Joseph. Thank you for joining us

on another edition of evening skew. We'll be back as always next Tuesday. See who's the dumb ass then. All right. Thank you all very much. See you. love you back