wellRED podcast - Evening Skews - Week of December 1, 2020

Episode Date: December 8, 2020

We had a big ol time last week, laughing at Rudy Giuliani and his impenetrable squad of fartin' drunks, as well as Diaper Don, Bill Barr, and so, so much more. Just so much stupidity to go around y'all, and we get to it all. We also had a great talk with Iowa Democrat JD Scholten. And look out for our DECEMBER 8 episode, when we'll be joined by Andrew Yang! Skew? Skeeeew. 

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month of this godforsaken year. That's right. It's the first of the month of the. December 2020. I'm Trey Crowder. That's Mark Ogey. What's up, Mark? What's up, Trey? Happy Tuesday. Ooh, ooh, ooh. I'm with us as always. His producer Matt on the ones and twos, and this is evening skews. And we got a great show for you all tonight.

Got some vaccine updates. We're going to talk about what the hell is going on in Georgia with Republicans down there. Bill Barr had a hell of a day and some conspiracy funness. All that and more. But first, we begin, as always, with the Daily Dumbass Producer Matt, hit it. Now regrettably tonight for the Daily Dumbass, I have to return to the left. I say that, I assume it's mostly people on the left. And I say that because our honoree this evening is any one of you who felt it wise

to make fun of the president's diaper on Twitter. Why was that dumb of you? Well, because now he's about to delete the internet, and I hope you're happy. all right no more memes no more cat gifts all right and dare i say it no more skews that's right the fallout is going to be unimaginable over this incident and if you don't know what i'm talking about i'm sure most of you do around thanksgiving trump held a press conference where he sat at an inexplicably tiny desk which is funny in itself and in one of the angles from this press conference you could tell that and i don't know i don't know how to put this uh his butt looked dumb he had a dumb butt going on

looked a little swollen and odd. And of course, the internet does what it does. Yeah, you can see it there. And the internet was like, that's a diaper. He's wearing a diaper. And before you know it, hashtag diaper Don is trending on Twitter. He was weirdly incensed by this. And he took to Twitter himself to go on one of his patented tirades.

First, he immediately did his knee-jerk reaction of calling it fake news, he said verbatim. Twitter's sending out totally false. trends that have absolutely nothing to do with what's really trending in the world. They make it up and only negative stuff. And then here's a relevant point. He followed it up with a tweet that said, for purposes of national security, section 230 must be immediately terminated. What the hell is section 230?

Well, who knew before this? But it's a section of the law that states basically that any, this is what it says, no provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be treated as the publisher or speaker of any information provided by another information content provider. So basically, Twitter is not responsible legally for people calling him diaper done, and he thinks that they should be.

So he wants to tear down the whole internet from the ground up just because y'all had to make fun of how dumb his butt looked, and that's where we're at, Mark. Yeah, the Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act is what it's what it's it doesn't just remove them from responsibility and also allows them to send it allows them to do censorship and also removes the responsibility for doing censorship so it's a reason that Twitter can for example take down child child pornography or hate speech or death threats and shit like that be there gives them

a little bit of leeway it's what allows the internet to exist in its current form a lot of people you know updating it and change the language a little bit because, you know, they're turning, it was written at a time we didn't realize we'd all be living. 1996, right? So it's like the internet was the wild west. We didn't know what the hell the internet was going to be back then.

Yeah. So anyway, the main thing is Trump was never concerned with it until it made fun of his butt now. Yeah. So I want to ask you, because I didn't, I was too fucking drunk on turkey and stuff to make a diaper jokes myself.

but I'm not going to sit here and act like I was above it. There was a, but I didn't do it. And there was a bit of a backlash from even like other liberals on Twitter when this diaper done thing started going on, people claiming that it was ableist. It was uncool to make fun of someone wearing an adult diaper. And I would just love to know, like, where you stand on that whole thing. How do you feel about that?

I chose to opt out of thinking about it. It's one of those things where, like, everybody's probably right. I don't think people just because they, like my, I have a friend who had spine cancer, I think, and she's only like 37. She wears like a diaper because they left her with incontent. I don't think her feelings would be hurt by Donald Trump's butt getting roasted. That said, I don't know. I choose not to wait into it.

I can read other jokes. Yeah. In general, we were talking about a little bit ago, like they, the minute the left in Vincentianian social justice term or rhetoric, the right, immediately adopts it and uses it for more often. Like how Melania, remember Melania says she was the most bullied person on the planet? Yeah.

And it's like, no, fifth grader is your chubby. Right. Well, yeah. Yeah, well,

that's pretty much how I feel about it too. Again, not having even actively engaged in that particular online situation. I just feel like it's not, when it's Donald Trump we're talking about in his role as the president, I just feel like there's almost no way you can be punching. down, you know, it's like I don't, like, as far as I'm concerned, you'd say whatever the hell you want about him, you know, like, like it's fine and he deserves it. And I get the point of like,

yeah, but other people could be in a similar scenario and it will, you know, upset them unduly. And I hear you, but it's like I said, I feel like most people are not going to, um, necessarily equate the two things, especially if they hate Donald Trump in the first place, you know. I mean, like, it was funny. people, one of the things is like, well, he's not going to see it. Only your friends and family and neighbors who also wear diapers are going to see it. They're the ones who are being hurt by it, except he did see it. He clearly saw it. Right. Exactly. Well, that's the thing. Like, anything like that is clearly meant to piss him off, like to get to him. That's the point of a hashtag like that.

Yeah. And I'm just okay with that. You know what I mean? Like if the if the, if the rationale is trying to get him on one of his little, you know, fucking dumbass online soapboxes or get him ranting from the toilet at 9 in the morning or whatever. And it works. I'm all, uh, I'm all in favor of that, you know, because I don't think that people who go after Trump for like pretty much anything have any sort of ill will towards, you know, any other group. It's purely meant to make fun of him and piss him off personally specifically. And, you know, and like you said, in this

case, it clearly worked. So, you know, I'm pretty fine with it. I mean, like, I have a bunch of different minds about it. One, I don't want I don't want any decent person's feelings to be hurt by it by it. Right. Right. But also the person who works in comedy in the back of my brain, I want to be, I want to think that anything's inbound.

Although I don't really think it is. It's just like, I want to argue for it, even if I don't really truly believe it, right? And but I think sometimes people get to too out of control. Again, that punching down thing, one time I posted just two side-by-side pictures. Trump was in Europe at some like black tie

conference or a big gala or whatever. He was wearing like a tuxedo and it was like he's popping out. The cumberbone was sloppy and the tie was untied. And the angle he's standing, I thought he looked like, remember that old, the opera conductor from Looney Tunes? Yeah, yes. So I just did a side-by-side

photo comparison. No words, no joke at all. Just like these two things, huh? They look like to you? And I got a bunch of people saying I was punching down and like for calling the president fat and I was like I didn't say it I didn't make a sort of qualitative judgment about it I didn't call him fat I didn't say anything about it other than you looked like this cartoon character you're the one supplying all the loaded messaging to it

and uh yeah I just don't think you can punch down at the president I don't know I agree so a couple of honorable mentions for deadly dumb ass tonight Mark if you could sort of set each of them up the first one is uh Georgia Republicans for having two horribly corrupt candidates in the

first place this is an ad from David Purdue all right This is an ad, the screen grabbed from an ad from David Purdue. Throw it up there, Matt. Totally exonerated. No wrongdoing. This is how you know your campus. They're polling data on this must be awful that he's bringing up his own accused crimes in his

ads. Yeah, you would never, it's such, it's just, it's just a bad look. Like, why would you even be bringing it up on your own accord in the first place if you didn't, if it wasn't paved as being approved. problem. Imagine I came in the door and my wife said, would you do today? And I say, I'll tell you what I didn't do. Cheat on you. I bet you have a problem. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. It's like if you're going out of your way other than like policy statements or even attacking your opponent, but if you're spending like your money, your campaign dollars and everything on like clearly you've prioritized. Hey, just so you know, I'm not a criminal. Like he's leading with I'm not. a criminal. And it just,

that's the type of thing that, you know, it seems like a criminal would say in a highly profile situation like that. Yeah, I mean, everyone remembers Nixon

doing that. I'm not a crook thing. People forget, I think that's about Watergate, it wasn't about Watergate. It was some other financial crimes he was being accused of. Some of his brother stole some money

or somebody, or he gave his brother some money from State Fun or something. That was a precursor watergate. Anyway, when these guys tell you they're not crooks, you know what you should hear? Yeah.

It kind of sounds like you're a Brooke, maybe. Yeah. And the second, second honorable mention is, uh, uh, former Trump campaign manager,

Brad Parscale. Par scale. Yeah. Par scale. Yeah. Who's had his feelings hurt. Well, just you guys,

if you guys remember what happened to this guy, he was the campaign manager until he basically stole four million dollars, but they don't really have a problem with except as Trump, Trump was trying to steal the same money. And then the campaign wasn't going well after Tamp, after Tulsa when he had the big rally and nobody showed up to it. So he got demoted and basically sidelined, then was arrested for a domestic dispute where cops do him to the ground. And the campaign kind of quietly separated from him.

And here's an interview he did today with Fox News. Have you talked to the president lately? I've not. That's pretty hurtful, but it's probably just as much my fault as his. I love that family. And I gave every inch of my life to him. Every inch. What would you say to him?

keep fighting don't give up don't give up it's the country oh I'm so sad what is the fascist has been

has been betrayed he's been fired and accused of crimes by this family and he's still every inch of his life he's 6 foot 7 by the way

so that's a lot of inches oh shit really I would thought that just from looking at looking at that god damn that's a big old boy yeah he was a nobody

like an internet marketing guy with no real political background until he ran Trump's campaign. And then because they accidentally won, he jacked up his rates and he got a millionaire and bought like five votes using Trump campaign funds. Yeah, but his feelings are hurt now, Mark. So, like, be a little sensitive, okay? Let's keep that in mind. It's the old leopard, uh, leopard.

Leopard ate my face. I thought they're going to eat other people's face. It's not mine, right? That isn't mean. But it goes all the way down, man. Like, like, we're... Dude. Trump is the king of leopards ate my face.

If y'all don't know we're talking about, it's the thing on the internet where it's like, yeah, like Mark said, well, I never thought the leopards would eat my face. Yeah, the leopards eating faces party, but I never thought they would eat my face.

Yes, exactly. The woman who voted for the leopards eating people's faces party, I never thought the leopards would eat my face. You know, he's not hurting the right people, that whole thing.

And it's just like, that just keeps happening with Donald Trump. and yes, this guy is definitely a man who has had his face leopard eaten, and he just cannot cope with it. And I want to... That's a good segue away to the next thing. Yes, I want to segue from that into what's going on with Georgia right now. And now, I'm going to say, okay, as clip we're about to show,

it really landed for me. Like, I don't like, we're making fun of this other guy for having his face eaten by leopards. And this dude, we're about to show his name is Gabriel Sterling, who works for the Georgia Secretary of State, Brad Raffensberger, who we've talked about recently, who's like taking a stand against Trump with all his bullying when it comes to the, you know,

fair election results in the state of Georgia. And apparently, weirdly, Trump supporters are getting really out of hand. And Gabriel Sterling is pretty upset about it. So let's just play the clip first, Matt. You got it. It's coming. Matt's got... It has all gone too far.

Joe DeGeneva today asked for Chris Krebs, a patriot who ran Sissa, to be shot. A 20-something tech in Gwinnett County today has death threats and a noose put out saying he should be hung for treason because he was transferring a report on batches from an EMS to a county computer so he could read it. It has to stop. Mr. President, you have not condemned these actions or this language. Senators, you have not condemned this language or these actions. This has to stop. We need you to step up and if you're going to take a position of leadership, show some.

Yeah, pretty powerful stuff. The man's fed up with it. And again, I feel like this guy sort of falls under that same category because he's apparently a lifelong conservative Republican, that same category of having his face. of having his face eaten, but like, I'm just glad that this dude and his boss, Raffensberger and people like that, like, even still exist on the ride in this country, you know, like, good for him. That's probably as close as we're going to get to Mr. McCarthy, have, you know, decency, sir, sort of run.

And it's just, like, I've been waiting five years for somebody to do it. And it's like this, like, third tier guy who works for the Georgia Secretary of State, whose boss's wife is getting rape threats. And it's just like, this is, he goes on and the rest of his speech, talk about how he voted for the president. And he says, you need to disavow this rhetoric. It's like, man, where do you think this rhetoric is coming from? This is the guy you voted.

Right. I'm glad you're having some integrity in this moment. But like, this is all. He's been doing this the whole time. Like, this is his whole thing is this rhetoric. And, you know, you should have known that. But still, yeah, again, I'm just glad he's like standing up in the moment because like there were a whole lot of Republicans

when Donald Trump first showed up on the scene a lot of high profile Republicans when he first popped up who were very clear about really this exact thing like Lindsey fucking Graham said back then that the Republican Party would be destroyed

by Donald Trump if they made the grievous error in judgment of nominating him as their candidate, right? But obviously that ain't that ain't the line that Lindsey Graham walks anymore you know what I mean like they like this dude is actually even though I think

he's been duped and should have known it and fucked up for the past however many years at least in this moment he's standing up and saying this is not fucking cool because most of them don't do that and yeah he's not on that higher level and maybe that's why he's doing it or maybe it's just

because for the first time he has had to face personally the ramifications the ramifications of how this motherfucker operates, meaning Donald Trump, you know. But again, I'd rather him come around at the end of the day than not. And I'm wondering what you think about, like, like how, I don't know, what's the likelihood of him actually doing that, that being tearing the whole party apart one way or another?

Because it seems like it's maybe starting to happen in Georgia. Is that too optimistic? Like, how do you think that's going to be all pan out? I mean, who knows anything anymore? I'm through making predictions, because none of this makes any sense. It doesn't seem to be like a political result of elections don't seem to be tied to any sort of reality.

You know, I mean, the fact that Trump's vote went up after 250, like, we're not 400,000 people dead by inauguration day for the pandemic and every small business out of business. And he was within like 40,000 votes and spread over three different states of getting reelected. So, I mean, you think that Georgians, I mean, it would help the Democratic Party would actually make the argument to tie the unemployment increase and another stimulus check to the election in Georgia. I don't know why they haven't even bothered to say we will give, we will pass better unemployment if you vote for us. It would seem to help in my opinion.

Don't know. They're the experts, right? What I don't know. Right. But this whole thing, and we talked about it on. I think a week ago, that episode, we were talking about this, but this whole thing that, like, is reportedly going on in Georgia with, I mean, not reportedly, clearly at some level it is happening,

because that's exactly what this guy was just talking about. There's a lot of hardcore Trump supporters in Georgia who obviously self-identify as Republicans, who are, you know, frothing at the mouth and raging at Georgia Republican leadership for their failure to properly, handle this, which in their opinion means, you know, hand the state to Donald Trump or whatever. And they've threatened to, if you're not going to do that, we're not going to vote in the

runoff or we're going to write in Donald Trump, which apparently isn't even an option. But I'm saying, like, how, not that we should be some complacent in any way, but like, how big of a factor you think that's actually going to be? Because I've been a lot, I would think a lot of the Republicans in Georgia are, you know, Trump-type Republicans. Like, do you think this is going to end up being a major factor in the election? It depends on what Trump says. He's going to Georgia this weekend.

Right. Well, he already tweeted. He already tweeted something to the effect of, like, yeah, the election was fraudulent. We won by a lot and we'll prove that. But in the meantime, you should support David Purdue and Kelly Loeffler. He had a tweet about it. I wish I had the clip handy. I forgot to load it in.

but the, the, uh, the, uh, Ronovic Daniel was in Georgia last week. And she was talking, doing a press, open press conference talking to voters or rally or a little rally or whatever. And she was trying to convince them that they're like, why should we vote if it's our, if it's rigged it had already been decided? She's like, no, it hasn't been decided. It's like you can't, you can't tell the both things. The only samples have is, um, uh, wrapping the Georgia secretary of state said it right after the election that there were 24,000 Republicans who voted in the Republican primary. who didn't return their ballots for the general, right? Right. It's just like the thing with Trump and mail-in votes.

Like he spent all that time, you know, de-legitimizing the idea of mail-in voting to his base and then was shocked to find that all the mail-in voting was heavily favored to Joe Biden. And yeah, it's the same thing in Georgia right now. If you, like, preach to these people that the election process in your state is fraudulent and rigged and delegitimate. And then they decide to not vote because of it. Like, how the fuck do you handle that? And Loughler and Purdue have to,

it's a very thin and stupid line. They're having to tow right now with trying to act like both things are true. Like, you must come out and vote or else we're fucked. But we're not saying that the election isn't bullshit. Yeah. You know, and it's just, and that's what I'm saying.

like this is all because of Trump like Trump and Trump alone has painted them all into this corner I mean they're all complicit but like it's all because of him you know and if this type of thing ends up fucking them over like it already has in the general election

I mean it's reaping what you sow yeah and back you just keep going back to that 24,000 because if those 24,000 people who were heavily involved in Republican politics who had voted in the primary if they'd return their mail ballots for the general then Trump wins Georgia and Lafleur and Purdue

would probably clear 50% and there's no runoff, right? So this is going to be much bigger deal in that 24,000. So let's double it and say another 50,000 people who would have voted in the runoff don't. Now, you just got to get Democrats to turn out by making them enthusiastic for Warnock and Asoff.

And let's see, I don't know. The corruption charges seem to be sticking, which is funny. But the amount he's destroying people who loved him. is hilarious to me, which brings us to Bill Barr, I think. Yes, I was about to, yes, please, Mark. Bill Barr had a big old day.

Won't you tell us about it? So, he had a real half a loaf kind of day. So on the one hand, he appointed a special prosecutor. The U.S. attorney had looking into the investigations of Trump. They're investigating investigators who launched Russia again, right? So, yeah. So this guy is going to be, what's his name? St. The last name is Sart Thati, I can't think of his name right now.

But he's looking to crossfire hurricane, which of course, the dasturly scheme by which people noticed that there were a lot of Russian operatives around the Trump campaign and decided to like just keep an eye on it and took down Michael Flynn because he lied to him and all that shit. So that's what he did to help Trump to like make him feel good because that was the that was the sugar cube to chase the medicine. The medicine was that he was asked about election fraud. said there was not enough election fraud to have resulted in a rigged election,

which led to a bunch of fucking funny fallout. Senator Ron Johnson was asked about it and said, show the evidence that there is no evidence, and then we will believe you. You put that in our document that we keep about the show earlier, and I literally put weight, is that a real quote? Because I hadn't seen that. That's like just the amount of self-parity they engage in is unreal, because that sounds like some made-up veep shit,

the show on HBO to me. Show the evidence that there is no evidence, and maybe then we will believe you. Yeah. Show me the hole where there's no dirt. I didn't go to law school, but I'm pretty sure that's not how proof works. You can't, like, show me where the lack of, prove you didn't commit this murder.

Like, I don't know. I don't do that. Right. Well, that's been their whole approach to this whole thing, is like the hardcore people on the right is like you got to prove to us that this didn't happen. It's like no, that that's the opposite of how it works. You have to prove that it did happen. And right now you're one in 28 or whatever in official court cases on that very subject. I think it's one in 40. It's kind of, and though the one got overturned. So I think it's kind of like over 39 or something.

Right. And so anyway, speaking of Trump legal team, Giuliani put it in a press release, basically saying that bar is full of shit. and he's mistaken. And then somebody dug up basically some rock solid proof that Bill Barr is working for Joe Biden. Check this pick out. You got it, Matt.

Oh shit. That's a conviction right there. They were both in government in 1991. Fuck. Yeah, I got him. Which that's actually, so they've nailed Joe Biden to the wall. recently mark like the internet has got him cornered because not only have they proved that he

has interacted with bill bar before in his you know five-decade career in congress but they also have found out that uh joe biden is covering up for his ankle monitor with a walking boot which is i believe much the same that hillary clinton did like hillary clinton also had a walking boot at point and now Joe Biden has a walking boot and Mark you can't deny that that is some shady shit how about two old two elderly people somehow end up with walking boots when they're you know in a high profile situation no this is dastardly child blood drinking related behavior I would assume um uh don't worry about it Matt I see your message the uh so the uh the uh the uh the uh so it one side of We get accused to be an ageist from the show a lot.

And I'll just say this. One reason I'd like so many elderly people in the government is they don't break quite as many bones. Therefore, don't want somebody conspiracy theories. Because every time one of these elderly people in the government has a walking booth, which happens fairly often, Clinton had one, McCain had one. Now Biden has one because he cracked his ankle playing with his dog.

That since Pizza Gay, people think that there's proof that they've been arrested and are wearing an ankle monitor. Right. right so joe biden has now been arrested he's been taken down the cabal and uh it was it's it was a while what is what is there so if it isn't clear already like this is this is now realm of straight up conspiracy shit we're talking about the latest in q anonon stuff what is the rationale for like they've got biden penned but can't let that be known in the midst of a contested election right like if any of that was even remotely true in the midst of a contested election and they had like hardcore proof and they had taken him down for being part of the global blood sucking pedophile club or whatever why would they approach it this way by having him go out there and still do all his regular is he supposed to roll over on the the leader of the blood sucking pedophile club who is i assume lucifer is that one

What's, like, how is it even supposed to work? You're focused way too closely on the mechanics of it, and so the spirit of it. All right. So you're asking how it works, and the thing is, well, obviously it doesn't, but like there's a magical point, right? Trump and Q cannot come out and tell everybody what really happens until we get 30% of people who believe in Q and on. At that magic point, that'll be the great awakening, and then they can come out. tell everyone. Until then, they have no choice, but to do everything super secretly and hank cover everything up. And I'm assuming that Biden takes the presidency in January 20th,

the conspiracy theory will be that the leverage Trump has over him from his conviction. Trump's running a puppet presidency through Joe Biden. And that's what they'll believe. And what about Joe Biden? He goes along with it so they don't throw him into the gulag or whatever. Like that's why he would go along with this? When the boot comes off, they'll say he was found guilty and executed and replaced the body level or a clone. All right. I forgot about clones. Yeah.

That's my bad. I totally, I totally forgot. But it was a wild weekend for conspiracy theories. Yeah. So another aspect of this was apparently there was a big shootout in Germany over the weekend between the CIA and Navy SEALs. Because the CIA rigged the election using the super secret server in Germany. and Trump sent the Navy SEALs and Delta Force to confiscate that server. I've gotten a big shootout, which Gina Haspel said,

directed to CIA was personally at and she was killed in that shootout. She's been replaced by a clone now, too. So it's pretty much all clones from the top of the time. I'm a clone. You're a clone. We're all clones. Yeah, it turns out Michael Bay is a documentarian. This is all like, yeah, this is some straight up Michael Bay shit they're talking about here. And one of the main reasons we talk about this stuff is not because I want to give it, we're past the point of giving any merit.

Like if you start understanding the cohorts and stuff, you'll see your Facebook feed from your neighbors and people who go to church with and people who you went to high school with and stuff. Some people are partial believers, others are big believers, but you can't really talk politics without anybody with any large group of people

without having two or three people raised parts of this that they believe are true. And you can't even really decode what politicians are saying and with the president's retweeting if you don't really understand what they're talking about. Yeah. All right. So I'm going to use that to segue

in the next topic. There's an alarming amount of people who at least partially agree or partially believe in all this Q&N insanity, which is we've talked about countless times before. To me, is the most blatantly absurd and clearly false bullshit

I can imagine other than the flat earth theories. And there's a huge amount of people who at least a little bit believe in this stuff. So with that in mind, I'd like to talk about the forthcoming COVID vaccine. It's as of now, looks like the COVID vaccine could be available in as little as two weeks. Of course, only to high priority recipients, health care professionals, and people in long-term care facilities, people at the highest level of risk. And the rest of us won't won't have it available for a long time after that, which is obviously fine.

And there are apparently some side effects so far from what they could. tell in about 10 to 15% of people there are noticeable side effects but those side effects are the same type of shit you get from like a flu shot or any other vaccine your arm gets sore you feel a little sick you feel a little cruddy for about a day and then it's over and that's all they can tell so far both versions of the COVID vaccine that are coming out require you to have two shot you have to have it done twice about a month apart and they there's you know a fair chance that it will make you feel not great for about 24 hours. So with that in mind and the amount of people who believe that Joe Biden is a clone now

because of a vampire kitty diddler global cabal and whatnot, how worried are you, if it all about this country and people in it just fucking up the efficacy of this vaccine by just straight up refrauding. refusing to do it. Like a large, large enough amount of people who are like, I ain't doing that. Fuck it. I refuse it for all these reasons and whatever else they make up in their mind. Like, well, I mean, we'd be worried. Yes. Because the way the COVID vaccine is going to be implemented, it's good. It's good. It's if you were designing a type of vaccine to be open to a lot of disinformation, um, uh, there, um, it would be, it would be like this. Because what's going to

You need to get the first shot, wait a month. Get a second shot, and then you have two weeks until you have antibodies. And basically because the vaccines are going to be tested in this environment where people doing social distancing and wearing masks, we only know the vaccines and efficacy under these rules where people are social distancing wearing masks. It might work perfectly in a crowded bar where people are no eyes wearing a mask and people are coughing your face from the COVID-posited,

but we don't know that for sure. So you're going to get a lot of people who get the first shot and then get COVID and say, all the shot gave me COVID. you're going to get people who, you know, who die after giving the vaccine because they got COVID. All the vaccine, COVID was safe, but the vaccine killed me. You're going to get people who have antibodies, but not enough antibodies, maybe, who still get COVID instead the vaccine didn't work. It's all going to help, but the government should pay people to take the vaccine. So mail everybody, mail everybody gets it $1,000 and you'll get a lot more compliance, I think.

Yeah, that whole, actually, I'll admit, I didn't know until earlier today when reading up on it, that every existing iteration of the vaccine requires you to do it twice a month apart. And just that alone worries the shit out of me for all the reasons you already stated. I hear's just so many people in this country, I think, who, like, it's so easy to imagine them getting the first one, maybe, like, while being skeptical. And then in that intervening period, something, they could get a cold, who get, anything could happen. that convinces them that, oh, this is bullshit. They fuck me out, you know, and the only way to save myself is by skipping out on the second round or whatever.

I mean, who knows? Like, it's just, there's too many, like you said, it's so ripe for disinformation. There's just too many, like, variables involved. And I don't know what the hell else we're going to do outside of a vaccine, but it's just like, we're just so dumb about this goddamn virus in this country and a lot of other things. Yeah.

But this virus specifically this year, we just been so goddamn dumb about it in this country that I'm fucking really worried about about how this is actually going to roll out when it comes time and the time is coming nigh, you know. Before we continue with the COVID statement, programming note, Matt Matt's saying there are a bunch of comments about this breaking news about the part of the bribery for pardon scandal.

And we'll talk about that in the reader, I guess from the reader question segment because I got to read up point it for a second first because I don't know anything. It just broke up. This is a live show. If you guys listen to the podcast version. So, well, we don't have control over that.

But going back to us being really stupid about COVID. Today's COVID stats, like, there are like 1.9 million cases diagnosed in October and 4.3 million in November. So people have really gotten lax with their distancing. And I understand why it's fucking miserable out here. People want their families. They want to party. They want to make out with strangers. I get it.

But today, we had 2,500 deaths announced. Now there's some data lags because of the holiday weekend. So that doesn't mean 2,500 people died today. It could have been slow reporting. But 1.3 million tests today, 177,000 cases. About 100,000 people are currently hospitalized with COVID in the U.S. Some states are really bad. Like one in 500 people are currently hospitalized in like three different states.

That's not sustainable. And here's the crazy thing. People are still having swingers parties, Trey. Yeah, what? I understand you want to hug your grandma, but hold off in 40s. We have three separate stories from today about people going to warfee

in swingers parties during COVID. One, New Orleans, a swingers convention led to 41 COVID infections, people said, which those are just infections. Some of those people are going to die probably. Nashville found that Nashville had given a permit, a permit to a swingers convention. And then when people raise a stink about it, they told him to fuck off.

So they're moving to like Arkansas or something, I think. They're still going to have it. God bless them. And then this isn't an American, but I just want to give you a little relief. You're not the only dumb motherfucker was on the planet. This Hungarian politician, he happens to be a right-wing anti-gay dude, but he was caught, arrested at a 25 dude orgy. These are all-dudes mind. You're not 25 dudes and a chick that happens to.

But this guy was sneaking out the window of an all-dud orgy and had to resign. because he's the one that made it illegal to be gay in the Hungarian constitution. Literally sticking out a window. Like they caught him. He got the window of a 25 dude orgy. That's dedication right there. Like that's like. When God closes the door, Trey.

Yeah. The gay orgy opens a window. Yeah. That was in Brussels. So he traveled internationally to go to this orgy. He broke all kinds of COVID rules. Well, that's kind of what I was about to bring up. Like, I don't know.

I have no knowledge of this scene at all. I don't, you know, I don't judge it in an objective sense. I got no problem with gay origin. I got a problem with it. Of course, I know, I know. But, right, and I agree with you. I have no problem with it either. Me and Diamond and Drew Morgan or two or together

were once propositioned by a group of swingers after a show and, you know, unfortunately, had to refuse. But that's as close as I've ever gotten to experiencing it. And yeah, I'm totally fine with it as a concept. But obviously, in the era of a pandemic, seems pretty irresponsible. But my point is, you got this guy climbing up windows, right, to get there. You got these people relocating to 600 miles away so they don't have to miss their fucking dick and butt parties, right? Which I assume are like annual events.

Like I'm saying, clearly, if you are in this world, you know, it's like, I'm saying, I think their decision-making skills may be a little, you know, lesser than some people because it's like being addicted to heroin, maybe. You're just addicted to a lot of different holes at once. It seems like they seem very dedicated to making sure that this happens. I want to be just a quick clarification. The police raided the gay orgy. He was climbing out the window buck naked when they caught him. Oh, oh.

I thought, I mean, that's still funny, but in my, I thought you meant they pulled up to like a window or, you know, a building and like shined a spotlight and he was scaling the side of it. Yeah. He was like entering the gay orgy, but I mean, yeah, that's still funny. My question about the swingers is, so the premise of swinging is that a married couple is bored having sex with each other, right, that they got to find other people to trade off with. how much sex are you having in quarantine? Because I've got to be honest, it hadn't have been a real turn on it. Our households.

Right. You know, absence makes the heart grow fonder. The opposite is true, too. Yeah. Yeah. So, okay, like, maybe we could try to use this to lead into, because also, like you said, I didn't know about this emerging story about people bribing the White House for pardons,

but we did have something we wanted to talk about that could maybe lead into it a little bit Rudy Giuliani has reportedly spoken with Donald Trump about a pardon for himself the New York Times has reported a pardon for what you may ask well just you know

stuff just everything just a general blanket pardon which actually that's not unprecedented in American history there have been blanket undefined pardons given by presidents before probably the most famous in our lifetimes was Nixon was pardoned for everything he did as president just point blank but the other examples were President George Washington pardoning plotters of the whiskey rebellion

shielding them from treason prosecution so related to Revolutionary War and then later President Jimmy Carter pardoned thousands of American men who had illegally avoided the draft for the Vietnam War. So, like, you know, you can see, Mark, how pardoning all the draft Dodgers in the years following that very unjust war is very comparable to Trump pardoning Rudy Giuliani just for sucking at his job to an illegal degree or whatever. Like, it's so funny that Giuliani is like apparently so concerned,

about how bad of a job he's doing that he's like, I'm going to go to jail for this shit if I don't get him to do something about it. The Whiskey Rebellion and draft dodging were specific acts tied to a specific date and specific crime, though. I don't know how you can just pardon somebody for generally existing for crimes he haven't been charged with or even been investigating it. I don't know. I'm not a lawyer either, and I don't understand enough either. But to me, it seems like if Gerald Ford could pardon Richard Nixon for

any actions he may have taken as president, which is how I read this, then I feel like Trump could pardon Giuliani for any actions that he may have taken as counsel to the president or whatever. I mean, obviously, I think that's bullshit too, but I'm saying, like, I can see how they can make it work as dumb as it is.

Yeah, I mean, people are generally giving presidents pretty wide latitude, but this is going to be, like, the only thing I'm, like, Julianni is up to a ton of shit that has nothing and do with Trump. Right. We talked about international finance is a fucking quagmire of nonsense. He's been doing a lot of foreign consulting work, which, i.e. money laundering.

And yesterday there was a lawsuit advanced against Felix Sater, who was Trump's partner in building a lot of real estate, who also was a former cooperating witness as a member of the Russian mob. And so people are suing him, accusing him of laundering. money from a Kazakh bank through Trump organization properties and and Giuliani's consulting company is wrapped up in that that would of course be illegal along with being a lawsuit grounds for a lawsuit so I don't know how Trump would would phrase a pardon in writing that would cover that considering charges have been filed yet

and we didn't even know if anybody's investigating it to get the DOJ but I don't know but this I mean Bill Barr and he is a confirmation hearings was asked basically basically, if giving someone a pardon in exchange for something would be obstruction of justice, would be a crime. And he said, yes. So even like, even hardcore strict constructionists don't construe a president as being able to pardon people to cover his own ass, even though it has happened before. And you said, pardoning someone in exchange for something else, would that be a crime, obstruction of justice?

And he said yes. And that he was saying, pardoned, if Trump pardoned people to an exchange for them not testifying against, him. Okay. We've got to be a threat of justice. Well, either way. So Giuliani looking for a pardon. Obviously, Trump pardoned Flynn and Stone, the community sentence, whatever.

So there's some precedent there. And apparently a story has just come out that federal investigators are looking into a bribery for pardon scheme where it seems like there are at least two individuals who acted as lobbyist to senior White House officials without complying with the registration requirements of the Lobbying Disclosure Act to secure a pardon or reprieve of sentence for one individual whose name is redacted. So basically Trump's getting, or there's a possibility that Trump's straight up getting bribed for pardoning people. I think I understand these two dudes were, they didn't register as lobbyists and they were, and they were paid to take the case straight to the

president. I'm not sure if there Sam Trump was paid for it. I mean, it's all crooked as shit, but I don't really have. The investigation also involves an alleged offer by another individual to quote, offer a substantial political contribution in exchange for

a presidential pardon or reprieve of sentence. Dude, I don't know about you, but I thought for a while there, and hell, it still wouldn't surprise me that Trump was going to fucking pardon Joe Exotic. All right? Like, I halfway expected that to happen. just because Trump is Trump

and the world is the world that we live in in 2020 and so like... I mean, Joe did get railroaded, but that's the difference. Well, I'm just saying, like, that I was expecting that to happen just because of the high, you know, pop culture value of what was going on at the time

how zeitgeisty it was. Yeah. I really was expecting him to maybe do that. And I'm only saying that to say, the idea that he would be down for some pay-for-play pardoning action, where you can pay them enough, if the number's high enough and you can get a pardon,

like, I mean, it doesn't, it's not hard for me to believe at all. I mean, the way Trump's brain works, why would you not do it? The Constitution gives you this incredible power that has no check on it. You can use it any time you want. Why wouldn't you make a little money off using it?

Doesn't it? Only a sucker wouldn't, Trey. Yeah, you're right. I agree. Matt, let's throw some comments up there and whatnot. if you got them. While we're waiting on Matt to find some, another quick thing we're going to cover.

It seems like Trump is going to have... Trump, as opposed to being present at Joe Biden's inauguration, which is obviously the standard. Now, it's happened before that the sitting president has not attended the inauguration, but only like three times and like 200 years ago. But Donald Trump is not only not going to attend Biden's inauguration, but it's also planning to have his own thing

going on. There are reports that Trump might be throwing his official 2024 re-election campaign announcement on inauguration day. So stealing Joe's thunder mark.

I just want to say low end zone dance here, this is exactly what I predicted would happen like five years ago. Yeah. We're talking about whether Trump would leave office and I was like, he's going to whine on Twitter, he's going to skip the inauguration. He's going to because the pandemic, Joe's going to have a little small inauguration with nobody at it or maybe like cars honking like he did at the fucking

at his victory speech and Trump is going to be irresponsible and hold a big rally and say that obviously he's more popular and should have won the election because nobody went to Joe's Sleepy Joe's inauguration and yeah this is always what's going to happen when you talk about him destroying the party the way he does that is because I don't think he can be beaten in a primary so he's going to be the nominee in 2024, if he's still alive. Even if he's been indicted. Okay. Well, this, our first, our first view of your comment here is actually related to what you just said.

Queen Crusader asked, aren't any of you afraid that Trump has set the country up for a competent authoritarian? And yes, absolutely. I'm terrified of that. Like, yeah, the idea that the next Trump will not be a, like, cartoonishly ludicrous, blithering idiot. You actually have some level of competence because they do exist. You know, like I hate Mitch McConnell so much, but like he's competent.

And the idea that a competent version of Donald Trump scares the shit out of me. Have you ever noticed, Trey, that when we set, after our many invasions of other countries, when we set them up as democracies, we never give them the electoral college or the Senate or very rarely to give them presidents. We give them parliamentary democracies. where the people you vote for are actually in charge and control of things that can pass the stimulus because they're all one party's in charge of everything.

The reason we do that is we know our system of government doesn't work that well or the fact we've survived as long as we have is kind of a political marvel and political scientists would tell you a lot of reasons for that. But we have a lot of countermajority and institutions in our government, like the Senate and the Supreme Court. And basically what saved us this long

is our political parties weren't very eye at You'd have liberal Republicans in the North and conservative Democrats in the South. It's kind of a mix of stuff at different grab bags of issues where the countermajority and institutions weren't all on one party's side, right? Now they are. They're all on one party's side. So like something like the Senate's going to be split, even if it's split 50, 50, the Democratic senators will represent 40 more, a million more people than the Republican

ones or something like that. It's extremely imbalanced. And so like now that those are just sitting there, these arcane. things in our Constitution. Trump's keep pointing out, he's pointing out that state legislatures could just in theory seat electors and leave the voters out. That's like, that's just a checkoff's gun laying there and somebody's going to pull a trigger eventually. Yeah, well, first of all, Patricia Perring says, I fear that more than anything. Trump was a useful stooge. Yeah, yeah, I agree. But like you said, we talked about

on a show before. Like, if you really stop and think about, we're, we're talking about Gabriel Sterling from the Georgia Secretary of State's office earlier and commending him and whatnot. But it's like, it's really scary when you stop and think about it, how thin the line is between us and just the end of democracy at Trump's whim, basically. Like, we have these, you know, these few Republicans in key positions who are somehow maintaining integrity despite their party's direction. And like, if they weren't, I'm not saying that he would successfully take the election or whatnot, but it was. would be a much bigger shit show than it already has been. If Ruffinsberger was, you know, a fucking true believer type or whatever. Yeah.

If he was like Giuliani, for example, be a whole thing. T. Harper says, what happened to Mike Pence? He's been quiet. I mean, in my recollection, he was always quiet. Like, that motherfucker don't ever hardly say nothing or do anything. Like, I'm not, I don't know. I ain't missing Mike Pence. I think he's probably, he still wants to be president

and he wants to run in 2024 so he's just hoping like things will shake out in his favor somehow. They had a poll come out today for like 2020 but the primary was held today who would you vote for? And they didn't put Trump on it for whatever reason. But Mike Pence was, Mike Pence and Don Jr. were tied at 20%.

Oh shit. Nambo or Nambo Brian says Ted Cruz is the most frightening authoritarian. I mean, I don't know about most frightening. I don't know about ranking them on that level. But I mean, yeah, Ted Cruz is a fucking, you know, he wears people skin to bed for sure, in my opinion.

I think Tom Codden scares me more. Yeah, yeah, that motherfucker is scary. Tom Codden believed in authoritarianism. Ted Cruz doesn't believe in anything except that Ted Cruz should have a higher profile. Yeah. But also, like, the big distinction between all those guys, Trump has a cold of personality around him because he's good at doing television. He has 50 years practice doing television.

And if you go watch his old interviews, like the same way he storms out of interviews with Andrea Mitchell or whoever. Or Leslie, Leslie, belated for 60 minutes. I can't think of her name right now. He formed out a couple weeks ago. He did the exact same thing and exact same context with a CNN business reporter in like 1992. Like he's been around this playbook for a while. And his charisma doesn't work on me, but it definitely does for a lot of people. And the good news is Ted Cruz and Tom Cotton don't have any fucking charisma and they're bad at doing TV.

So that may be what will save us in the short term. Yeah, it was Leslie Stahl, and I couldn't remember it either. I had to look it up. Yeah. Comment from Virginia Scanlon, Noam will run, N-O-E-M. South Dakota Governor, right? Yeah, Christy Noem, South Dakota Governor, I'm assuming. I believe South Dakota has been in a very hotly contested race,

as far as I've watched it, one of maybe the very worst COVID state in the country recently and my and my home state of tennessee has been doing everything it can to come for that belt south dakota but yeah yeah um we gave her dumb ass the day once for shooting coronavirus with a gun remember that's right that yes that's right that was her yeah she shot she shot covid out of the sky in a campaign ad uh yeah she seems alarming to me uh but i yeah no this whole like the larger question of Trump opening the door for a competent authoritarian, and it's like also just the direction that Trump pushes what being a Republican is, right?

The direction he pushes that in is what fucking freaks me out. Because of all the, like, huge success that he's had, any, like, up-and-coming Republican or somebody's really making their name in the GOP, of course they're going to try to, they ain't going to emulate Mitt Romp. Romney or John McCain, you know, they're going to emulate this motherfucker and that's not good. The big thing Trump's taught people and I hope Biden uses this for good, like, but you can get away with a lot more than people thought before if you just ignore the noise around it. And like we're talking about the partons, nothing, nothing can stop him.

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um what were you saying uh wait but just like we're just saying like the lie what trump's proved is like you there's so much stuff you can do the only thing stopping you is because you all not to and uh hopefully Biden will use that to help people's lives instead of just running petty scams but there's no reason to respect the norms if they're not going to you know um so yeah we got another questioner from uh bj plaskett plaskett what are you guys What do you guys think about the Biden cabinet so far? Mark, can you start? Better than Obama's picks in 08, not as good as they could have been.

This mode of like to Trump and how that went, but like I just think about how horrifying it was when all Trump's nominees came through and I'm pretty happy with this. I'm sorry, guys. Listen, I don't know if y'all can hear me or not. I can hear you. Okay, all right. Yeah, we're getting error messages again, and I apologize.

But let's just, let's just fucking, it's only two minutes left to the end of the show. I agree with Mark. I agree completely. Better, you know, not bad, but could have been better. But as said, let's just get out of here because apparently our shit is fucking up. And I apologize. But we will be back on Thursday for another edition of evening skews. Thank you all very much.

We'll see you. Yep. Howdy y'all? welcome back today's Thursday December 3rd 2020 I'm Trey Crowder and that's Mark Aegee what's up Mark what's up Trey how was your day today I mean you know not too bad just trying I'm already thinking about not getting too much fatter over the next month that's what I'm trying to focus on you know because like I've actually been doing okay in the past few months especially compared to the beginning of the

pandemic but it's like the holidays I always really tough for me and as a fat kid American you know so I'm having to really like try to try to buckle down yeah I went about about blood work for my physical today and and and I'm about to find out if I got those good COVID antibodies I'm excited about it oh yeah it's the best antibodies to have right now that's that top shelf antibodies the COVID antibodies I say yeah that's the Don Julio of yeah all right well with that said let's do the damn thing as always we've got producer Matt with us on ones and twos and this here is evening skews we've got a great show for y'all

tonight's um we're going to spend a fair amount of time doing our level best to adequately express to you all the degree of ludicrous hilarious self-parity that the trump legal team aspires to each and every day in their search for justice where the election results are concerned i don't know that we'll pull it off It's a Herculane task, but we'll do the best we can. Also, depending on time, we've got some vaccine updates. We're going to talk about the future of cinema in this great country. And a little bit later, we're going to talk with J.D. Shulton. Iowa's own, former minor league ball player and would-be congressman.

He took on noted Nazi lunatic Steve King in the 2018 election and took it down to the very wire before ultimately losing. He re-entered the race of 20. 2020 and the man who beat Steve King and the Republican primary Randy Feinstra ultimately was victorious, but at any rate, J.D. Shulton knows as much as there is to know about fighting the liberal fight in middle America. So that's going to be a good conversation. I can't wait for that. But with all that said, as always, we begin with the Daily Dumbass. Producer Matt, get that graphic for us. You know, I got to tell you, tonight's Daily Dumbass is one of my favorite.

in the history of the program. I know it sounds hyperbolic, but it's true. She needs no introduction. You guys know her. You love her. Overnight sensation. The one and only drunk Michigan courtroom election fraud lady. That's right. Melissa Carone, or maybe Caroni, who's to say, probably not even her.

But I'm sure you've all seen or heard about this illustrious woman by this point. And this is one of those things, like with a lot of these. people there's almost nothing I can say as a comedian that would be funnier than the reality of the thing itself so with that in mind Matt let's just play some footage of miss carone please the pull the poll book is completely off completely off that pull i'd say that poll book is off by over a hundred thousand that poll book why don't you look at the registered voters on there how many registered voters are on there. Did you, do you even know the answer to that? No, I guess it's, I'm trying to get to the bottom here. Zero. Zero. There's zero. So my question then is if the, how many, wait, what about, what about how, what about what about the turnout rate? A hundred and twenty percent. Let's, let's let's let Representative Johnson ask his question. So the poll book number, there's two things that could happen here. Either the poll book number, if balance from, we're calling a multiple. multiple times there's two options option number one is that the poll book numbers are not going to

match they don't the actual not by thousands and thousands of votes that's that we see right now you take a look again take a look again option number two is that they essentially were were filling in names of people who didn't vote that dead people too so is that what's representative johnson ask his question and then when he's done that's why my question here is why we're not seeing the poll book off by 30 000 votes That's not the case. What did you guys do, take it and do something crazy to it? You know what? Now that I think about it, why don't I ask you the questions, huh?

That's a good question. I'm the one who knows the facts. I saw the ballots. I think these people in America want to know what your problem is, why you're okay with the dead people voting and the Mexicans voting and all these dead Mexicans that are voting on these ballots that I saw. and I'm trying to tell the American people about, and you're not saying anything.

So how about I'd be the, you be the wit, I'll ask you the, you know. You can keep going or you want. I was enjoying that. No, I want to, honestly, though, Mark, look, I'm having a good time. Everybody's had a good time with this. But I kind of think that people are being a little too harsh

on the Trump team where this is concerned. Because you think, like Rudy Giuliani, man, he's got to do what he could do. He's got to find witnesses. boots on the ground there who can back up his line of reasoning and a court of law. And of course you wanted to be, you wanted to be credible, you want to be knowledgeable. But look, man, at the end of the day, this is Michigan in December. They're going to be drunk.

Like, she's going to be drunk. What was he supposed to do? Find us, like, that would have been more suspicious. People would be like, you mean to tell me this chick's sober in Christmas court? Not in my Michigan. Oh, where'd they find her? I don't know. Yeah.

Either way, it's just, it's a good time. My dad's best friend was from the Upper Peninsula and moved down south, and he kept a good buzz all winter and had a ponytail. His name was Bob. So I feel like this is how those people live. One thing I hate about this is my brain is broken enough that I understand what she's talking about. Like the 120,000, 120% turnout is like he keeps getting referenced in the court cases. They've discovered this county called Edison County, Michigan,

where I'm 20% of the population voted, except there is no Edison County in Michigan. In fact, there is no Edison County in the United States. So, yeah. She just fucking, but she got off a whole box of Chardonnay and just went nuts in the legislature and I love it. Also, apparently Giuliani found her that day,

like the same day and just put her on there. But, like, they're just, obviously they're grasping at straws. They're scraping the bottom of the barrel when it comes to fucking, witnesses and what they deem an election frog case, which is not I have theory where he might have found her, Trey, because you know, you've never imagined where she

noticed it seems like she's straight out a central casting for a drunk, angry Michigan lady. Yes, yeah. So it turns out she's an actress and a model thrown up that screen grab there. What? Well, look at that. Yeah, that's her, that's her

actor's profile on you know, explore talent, which apparently some like you need to hire extras or actors in Michigan. Get yourself. They're learning. Man, they're learning on the right. They're taking a page out of our playbook, obviously. When there's a crisis, you need crisis actors.

If you're going to have a hoax, right? You can't have a major crisis without some crisis actors. So, you know, they're finally learning. Do what we do. We're going to fake a shooting. We go and get some, you know, Disney Channel wannabes and throw them out there. And that's how you do it. and now they're doing it, you know,

what's good for the goose is good for the gander, I guess. We apparently, according to those conspiracy theories, fuck up and use the same people over and never again because I'll find two people in their shooting videos who look remote and say that it's the same. Like they made a career, a sag card. So, like, it obviously,

obviously we're joking completely about everything we just said. But dude, how wild and hilarious would it be if this exact same lady turned up. and some other like Trump conspiracy thing in March when he's trying to stay out of jail or whatever. And they bring a witness out and it's this lady. Everybody's some wild shit, man. I want to do a whole like a whole like legislative hearing where she's every witness in different fat suits and outfits like the clumps.

Yeah, but you know what? Obviously she's drawn some criticism. But she's not without her fans. She went over very well in some places, namely parlor. Matt, you throw up some of those parlor takes. Look here. We got, is this chick pretty cute, or is it just me? We have what I think is three dudes and a lady on parlor.

The dudes, is this chick pretty cute or is it just me? The next one, this hot woman needs to run for office when the new Trump party is formed. I like that one because it's like, you know, like that's what we need, guys, is a hot woman. Why has nobody thought about that? Then the other, the third dudes, oh, I don't know about this one, says she would make a terrific speaker of the house. I hear there's going to be a vacancy. And the only, I assume, female voice in this peanut gallery says, she's incredibly credible truth, which incredibly credible is just a wonderful way of expressing. you know, the, well, the credibility level of Trump's legal team and their people.

But it just goes to show you, markets, whatever melts your butter, you know, everybody can find their lane, they can find their people and do well with it. Yeah, I mean, there is going to be a speaker vacancy once Nancy Pelosi goes to get mo. So that's going to happen, definitely. Yeah, we all have a lot to look forward to. I don't know if y'all notice that we were watching and we don't have like the screen grab of this, but it did happen. In that clip we showed of the drunk lady,

at one point Rudy Giuliani clearly like reaches over to her to sort of like rain her in. And dude, if that motherfucker is raining you in in these particular proceedings, you are off the rails. Because we've already talked about him leaking poop out of his face. It's not the only part of him that leaks. Yeah, you might think this is the most ridiculous thing

to come out of the Michigan courtroom. you'd be wrong because we have a co-daily dumb ass tonight, and it is none other than Rudy Giuliani's butt hole, the first daily dumb ass we've had that is an actual ass. I'm very thrilled to say. We got our first literal ass. Rudy Giuliani's butt hole. Matt, play that first one.

The answer. The answer that I gave you is they didn't bother to interview a single witness, just like you. They don't want to know the truth. Well, you probably know the... I am, uh, I mean, first of all, who among us is not known an uncooperative butthole? So I feel for him a little bit, but like, can I emphasize enough that this is not edited.

We did not put that noise in. Yeah. And I want you to pay special attention to Jenna Ellis's face, right? We're watching it again right here because she definitely heard it. Hit it, Matt. The answer. The answer that I gave you is they didn't buy. to interview a single witness just like you they don't want to know the truth well you probably know

the truth that kills me i mean i'm a sucker for any kind of far humor but my god this like what is going through like you know what i mean you're already in this position that to me it feels like if you have a work insane brain i feel like you'd spend all day thinking what am i doing here with this man and you know trying to accomplish this absurd task. But obviously, they don't feel that way. They're fully on board.

But then you see, like, the veneer break when Rudy farts a little bit. You know what I mean? Like, you can see her actually kind of realizing

what she's doing with her life at present. But Jenna, Dennis is that a hell of a come-up, though. I think she was just, like, a local, like, a county GOP chair

in 2016 because she's kissed Trump's ass to him, much she's going to parlay into a six-figure newsmax or Fox contract or whatever. She's done great for herself. So Mark said, and I agree with it. If you didn't say it, I was going to say it. Look, who among us, right, has let one slip in a court proceeding in particular,

or just any particularly embarrassing situation, right? Uh-huh. You know, you should not throw turds if you live in a fart house, right? And I get that, okay? but here's the thing that ain't the only time he farted in this very high profile super high stakes

presidential level court proceeding I swear it's true Matt play the second one what was the last part that last part is not you're attempting to seek a pardon

so why is it not part of that I will I will ask that he be disciplined for that First of all, first of all Hold on What was the last part? That last part is not You're attempting to seek a part

So why is it not part of that? I will I will ask that he'd be He'd be disciplined for that First Producer Matt doing us the service Of slowing it down, replaying it Just to make sure That none of you Patriots out there

Could miss the second Under the radar fart That did happen. You're saying here on the skews. Matt had to do as a Bruderfilm that part, and we appreciate it. That would always snuck by under the radar. Another funny thing about this hearing is the rules generally, are people who have to be,

witnesses have to be sworn in, but the Michigan Republicans intentionally, you know it's intentionally because Democrats tried to raise this objection. They did not swear originally on E.M. So he was free to lie without being illegal. And so you'll be pleased to know that that far was not technically on the record. well farts never lie mark they keep it real all right so

we had those written down for the daily dumbass but honestly the whole segment could be classified under that heading because there's so much more that comes out of this just Giuliani and his courtroom maladies but what they're in Michigan doing is trying to overturn the will of the voters right It's because they're doing stupidly late. So all these lawsuits they're filing,

the city of Detroit today, so these are crack and update, we'll usually call it that. So the city of Detroit followed their response to the Sydney Powell's latest lawsuit and basically was just like shrugged at it and made fun of it because they don't know what else to do at this point. You thought it's a screen grab,

a few lawsuits breathe more lies than this one. The allegations are little more than the fever ranting of conspiracy theorists built on the work of other conspiracy theorists, which is the point here. This is like a game of telephone where the first thing someone said was a conspiracy theory. So what's coming out at the back end of it is a bunch of fucking nonsense. And so you end up like they're just scrambling trying to make sense of all this. And one that really made me laugh is Fox News two nights ago. This is the guy who's gone viral on the right. He's a mailman who says he helped deliver

100,000 ballots, right? He's become a viral star. And so he's been going around doing the Fox news circuit. You need to see what this guy looks like for a second for those you were watching the stream. Yeah, it's Mr. Morgan, the guy on our left, screen right, and the hat is it is... Yes, and if you're not watching the stream, if you're listening to the audio

version, he's sort of like if and the guy who tweeted this, made a similar joke under it, but he's like if Turtle from Entourage was a, had just got thrown to it through a table while tailgating for the Buffalo Bills. Yeah. He's like drunken Midwestern Upper New York.

Take your pick version of Turtle from Montrose is what this dude looks like. And he is the second of two key witnesses, apparently, in Trump's defense. The first being, of course, drunk lady from earlier, Ms. Corone. So anyway, the Daily Beast bugging this dude's background. And it turns out he's not his first time on television. He's been on a travel channel before because he is, and this is true, a ghost hunter. all right yes that's like if any of you all were thinking look if any of y'all were thinking that it's unfair to just like look at this guy who's a witness and make fun of him because how he looks like look at him

that ain't no witness like we would have done that anyway but yeah just so you know he's a literal ghost hunter uh from way back so it's not just how he looks although mark i pointed out to you in the outline you wrote in there that he's been hunting ghosts for a while from what i saw of to this man he actually prefers the term shadow person he doesn't say it's not a ghost that's been haunting his family for generations it's a shadow person so the nuance there is important i think but we should pay him that respect you might be thinking like oh ghost hunting a lot of people believe in ghosts and ghost hunting maybe it's an excuse to get rid of your you together with your friends and go check out some basements but he's not just like ghost hunting he's not in it for the fun

of it he moved cross-country to escape a ghost that was living in his basement haunting his fam. This guy fled across state lines from a ghost which is weird because can't ghosts move too because the ghost not nobody getting the moving truck? I don't know how ghosts work. No, I think they're tied to wherever their trauma or their unfinished business

is. So like if this is the ghost of his great-great-grandfather's maid who the great-great-grandfather murdered in cold blood, I think she would be tied to the family estate although this man doesn't seem like the family estate type of dude. But you don't I'm saying. I think that's how I don't know the ends and outs of ghosts specifically,

but yeah, I'm not sure that the ghost can follow you across the country. I think it's a, it's a debated point in the ghost hunting community. But so, so this guy, make sure I get this right, Mark. This dude, like you said, USPS worker drives a mail truck, like one of the bigger mail trucks, I guess. And according to him, he drove, without knowing he was doing it. Like, he thought he was just driving a regular shipment, and according to him, he found out later that he had driven 30,000

fraudulent ballots from New York to Pennsylvania to help tip the balance in Pennsylvania is what he says happened. I don't know, man. I mean, yes, why does it even matter when he's also talking about shadow people haunting his aunt and stuff?

I mean, for sure, but I just wanted to be fair. I mean, like, look, let's take a minute as words. like if why would a guy who believes in ghosts be against dead people voting they should have that did not even occur to me and that is hilarious you're right this guy should be the last person upset about dead people voting yeah this guy knows ghost he's got friends that are ghost man he just really turning his back on him man that's not cool i got about four people and three ghosts

in my house we should get seven votes. Oh man. You really did it with that one. Oh, thank thank you. Glad you had to hit for you, Trey. The thing about this is like you think okay where they're lying, just trying to win, they don't believe their own bullshit, except the problem is some of these people are so high on their own supply,

they're fucking up their own lies. For example, all the voter fraud they've been catching is Republicans trying to do voter fraud back because they convince themselves it's really easy to get away with, and that's how Democrats do it and they're all in jail. So this is one dude, this Florida lawyers currently under investigation. He eventually did a Facebook live on November 7th, the day that Biden and Kamala were declared the winners.

He did a Facebook live tutorial for other Republican lawyers and advised them all on how to do voter fraud. Throw up the live stream, Matt, if you have the video. Yeah. So this dude did a crime on Facebook like they all do. They can't, they can't, they, they've been terrible obsequ. And to a reporter contacted him, like, hey, did you mean, did you actually register vote in Georgia to do voter fraud?

And he told her, no, he was joking, but that she went, looked. And he had already voted registered to vote in Georgia. So now he's going to end up in fucking jail. He's a lawyer. He's a lawyer, train. Right. No, I know what it's, I mean, we pointed out before on the show, like they're, their number one approach to combating voter fraud so far seems to be to engage in voter fraud. I don't know if it's some

kind of 4D chess move where it's like trying to prove how easy it is by doing it by committing crimes yourself or what? I mean, I know that's not what it is. It's completely lost on them that what they are doing is the actual illegal thing that they're pissed at us for not actually doing. but dude it's just again who can make sense out of any of it when it comes to what's going on in their heads but the fact that this dude's a longer like you said like that's and i'm sure everybody watching already knows this everybody goes through the same process i think at one point in their lives but i've and i've talked about this before but when i was growing up in rural tennessee and clay county tennessee as a when i became politically aware i was a liberal from the beginning and i always

went to college truly believing i had it all figured out mark I was like, yeah, there's liberal people, right? And then there's conservative people. And the conservative people see they're the dumb ones. Like those are dumb people and smart people are liberals. And that's how that works. And I happen to be from a place that doesn't have a whole lot of smart people and has a whole lot more dumb people.

This is what I thought at 18, right? And fully believed it, thought I had it figured out. And then by the time I got, when I got out of college, I took my day job with the Department of Energy in Oak Ridge, Tennessee. I went there and I met all these people who were like high-level engineers and scientists for the federal government who were like very, very intelligent. It was immediately evident how smart they were as soon as you started talking to them. One of those people like they say two or three words, you're like, this motherfucker, smart.

Kind of like you smart, Mark. And they were like that. And so many of them were hardcore. because one of those people was the first person I ever heard say the words about Donald Trump. You know, I think he'd mix things up and that's exactly what this country needs. And that was like the first time in my head that I was like, oh, shit, this might be a fucking problem because I'm not saying most of them aren't dumb, but like, there's plenty of actually like smart or competent people who are on that side of things. And they freak me out more because I can't. I can't reconcile all that.

I'm not sure. I mean, like, the only theory I've seen that makes any sort of sense for what happens to what's happened to baby boomers is all the lead that was on all their toys and their gas thing sort of came to home to roost. Right. I follow this Bob that follows Rudy Giuliani's Twitter account, what he sees on his line. And it's like, it's nothing but Qaeda on shit. Like Rudy Giuliani is hardcore. Like, this is a guy who ran New York 20 years ago. and he's full on lost, like, untethered from reality.

But all these guys, like, I've lost, I used to think people were automatically smart if they made it through law school. And look at all these people. Right. Like, in Wood, who's running the Trump's QAnon shit in Georgia, is gone completely off the deep end. Now, he's getting roasted by some sectors of the right because they think he's a deep state plant

to make a conservators look stupid because he donated to Democrats from the past. but this is a guy who he essentially is the guy who helped get Richard Jewel off he didn't get a character in the movie because he went crazy since now between now and then but like he uh he was more rich Richard Jewel's lawyers he outsmarted the FBI in 1996 right he beat them and now here he is running around screaming about like trying to convince Republicans to write in Donald Trump for Senate in Georgia where he can't even win because he's not he's not a resident doesn't make any sense

right doesn't make any sense to me either i think somebody who might have some thoughts on this whole dynamic we're talking about is our guest tonight who i mentioned earlier his name's jd shulton he's an american paralegal politician and retired professional baseball player from the state of iowa he was the democratic nominee for iowa's fourth congressional district where steve king is infamous from in the 2018 and 2020 elections this guy's head to toe legit talks to talk and walks the walk, man, goes around the entire state of Iowa and a Winnebago with his slogan on the side of it, just doing it for real. Everybody give it up for J.D. Shelton.

Hey. Hey, how are you guys doing this evening? Doing good, thanks for joining us. So I guess let's just start, since that's what we were just talking about, this idea of the despair, how it shakes out with people being intelligence or competency not necessarily being tied to what someone believes, right? You've been on boots on the ground in Iowa for years talking to people, and you see any kind of trends with that sort of thing,

or you get all kinds who believe all things? You know, there was a story of, we were at this event, and one of my supporters brought in his neighbor, and he's like, hey, you should really talk to this guy. He's kind of an independent guy And so you might want to vote Or try to get him to vote for you And so start talking with him

And everything was fine And then all of a sudden he just went down this rabbit hole It started with Cam Trails And it went another direction And it just You know we were just on two different planets And that's what the reality is Is we're seeing a lot of

Depending on where you get your news from It's just two different Americas and the misinformation and disinformation that's out there is something that is just jarring. Because if you come at it from where their perspective often, I think they feel like, I don't know, maybe I would view things the same way. But it's just, it's so drastically different than the reality and world I live in. Right. Well, I mean, Obama said in a recent interview, he was like, he's on his big, you know, promoting his book to her. he's given a lot of interviews. And one of those, he was talking about us having an epistemological problem in this country

where it comes to exactly what you were just saying, like people just who believe things that have no basis in reality whatsoever, but they believe them firmly and you can't talk them off of it at all. And, I mean, you just say you have firsthand experience with that. Like, what did you literally do when you were out there on the campaign trail and you ran into that type of thing. Did you try to get around it, change the subject? Or I mean, do you just like walk away from that person when you realize that they're that far gone down one of those rabbit holes like that? Well, I mean, it's tough to being a Democrat in this district.

There's 70,000 more registered Republicans than there are even Democrats in the district. And so any conversation I started with, I just played the odds and assumed they weren't a Democrat. And so I always tried to talk issues first or values for something, like try to find something that we can connect on. And the best person who I ever could have really connected with with my neighbor, who the caucus for Trump in 2016 has a truck size of Texas and 5A.R. 15s. And people would say, oh, like, you wouldn't connect or have too much in common. The reality is we have far more in common than we don't.

And that is what's getting missed. But yet when he goes down a certain path, we are completely gone and not even talking about the same thing. And so I think there's just for me, I'm still optimistic. I'm hopeful. But I think you see things like across the areas. And I'm really focused on a lot on trying to move the Democratic Party and the rural communities and be that bridge. And so for me, what I'm seeing and things like that, I just, I struggle with us getting hurt on working class issues and us being, you know, I'm a populist at the end of the day. And that's what the roots of the party in the Midwest used to be.

And I'm sure it was in the South. And you see kind of the fake populism on the other side. I mean, whoever thought a billionaire from you. New York could out-populize the Democratic Party. Dude, I know. I went, you know, fucking whatever name. Being typical of myself here, but this is true right after the election last time was the first time I was on Bill Mars show and I talked about that exact thing about how, like,

it still was blowing my mind even after he had won that, like you said, a billionaire Yankee guy had won over the hearts and minds of these rural Southerners. And when I first said that, the other people on there, including Mar, were like, really? You really think like it made total sense to them. And I was like, yeah, it's insane to me because I guarantee you if you would have asked any of these people before he got politically relevant, if you would have asked any of these stereotypically rednecks or conservatives in the Midwest or whatever, what their opinion of Donald Trump, because he's been famous for being a douchebag, you know, for 35 years. So they would have known who he was. And if you asked him, what's your opinion of Donald Trump, it would have been unanimous. Like he's a, you know, you know, carton bag and silver spoon up his ass, Yankee who needs his ass whipped and all this stuff. And it just will never stop being wild to me.

Like you said, he became their populist hero. His whole brand, he kept up in something news by being a dirtbag on purpose. He was basically in the backpack on the Howard Stern show. And he's like,

if they're like an Ocean's 11 team were like Beetlejuice is the leader, he was like the pervert one. You know, it was so weird. And I can never make, I've never been on to make sense of it, but like,

I think it's the basic dynamic where the information environment stuff is like everybody, everybody seems to have the vague sense that they're, uh, they're being screwed. Yeah. Right. One party in one information silo is telling them specifically who's to blame all the time. It's George Soros, whatever. And then you have like an overly, to my mind anyway, overly cautious democratic leadership who talks in these vague meandering sentences about giant systemic problems,

if they talk about problems at all. and when it's just like, no, pick somebody to be the bad guy. Rupert Murdoch, let's take Rupert Murdoch's money or whoever, you know. Right. I was listening to something earlier today that talk about like the vaccine and how it's going to get distributed just sets up for conspiracy theories. Yeah. And so that's, I'm really worried about that.

It's because you know that's all going to happen in the first hundred days and with the Biden presidency and all that. And so I, you know, It's weird because in all of this, after just coming off, fresh off of a loss for a second time, I'm still optimistic on things. Maybe I'm naive. Well, yeah, we were talking about on the last episode, so just on Tuesday, about exactly what you said, about everything about the way the vaccines work being set up to engender the conspiracy theories, all that type of shit. I agree with you completely.

I'm terrified about how that's all going to pan out. but going back to the other thing about, you know, populism and reaching working class people and all of that. I mean, you know, again, like I said earlier, you walked to walk with all that. You've went your rounds with that type of thing with Democratic leadership, right? I mean, you've ran into opposition at the top when it comes to, you know, trying to, it seems like they don't take it well when you try to imply that they're not going about things. right way. And by them, I mean the Democratic leadership. When it comes to reaching our people, for lack of a better phrase. Can you just talk about that for a little bit? Yeah. So there's two type of things. First, when I launched, like, nobody asked me to ran. I started from absolute

scratch. I've never ran for anything before. I was literally just so frustrated with things. I'm like, well, I either need to put up or shut up. And I decided to run. And my only goal, Winnebago RVs are made in the district. And so my only goal was really to raise enough money, to buy an RV, to get out there. And I figured if I could get out there and talk to enough people and meet them face to face instead of them viewing me as the character of what they want me to be, that have actually just describing what I want to be and what my vision for this district. And so through that, I mean, we were just this grassroots organic campaign that just grew and grew and grew, where the DC folks, the D-Triple-C and kind of the establishment,

didn't really like, this was a lost cause for them, this district. They hated Steve King, but they didn't think I had a chance. And then all of a sudden, we pulled within three, and we raised enough money to get noticed and all that jazz. But the system isn't allowed for people like need or run. The system is meant for wealthy people or self-funders and people who know a lot of wealthy people. And so I think one thing we showed was that you can do something different.

And then this time around, the second time I ran, they said the D-TROC said they're all in and all this stuff. But they want their hands in every little thing. They want you to talk to this person. They want you to hire this consultant and all this stuff. And it's all disingenuous. And it's like, no, we're going to run the same way that we did before. and we just went up against a wave that, the Trump wave that just, this is how bad it was. Well, we ended up rejecting the D-Triple C and saying, we don't want your help, but this is how bad it was.

My opponent did a push poll. A push-pull is one where if you just, a regular poll is just like, who are you going to vote for A or B? A push-pole is saying like, B is going to eat your kids and kill your jobs and all this stuff. And then what you vote for it? we ended up losing more than what the pushpole was. The wave came so big that we just, it was, and it wasn't anything the opponent did. There's nothing we could have done. It was the state of Iowa was so nationalized, Trump versus Biden, and people bought into Trump.

And it just blew away Democrats. Yeah. I'm certainly thinking it was a mistake not to, there's going to be a national campaign to not do more House investigations of Trump. corruption. Corruption seems like a really winning issue. Yeah, so you played pro ball in Saskatchewan. Is that way you fell in love with communist medicine? You know, shout out to the Saskatoon legends who only lasted

the half of the season. You know, I actually played a lot. I played with Moonstra. I played in Saskatoon. I was blessed to play all over. I actually played in Cuba as well. It was a visiting. It was 10 days of exhibition games.

I played against their top players. Yosmani Tomas, who plays in the big leagues, played against him before he defected. I wasn't supposed to pitch it that day, but ended up giving up a hard single after a night of maybe a rum or two. And yeah, no, it was great. And I got to play in Europe too.

So I've really, you know, I was blessed with it. baseball. It took me geographically. It took me a lot more places than the actual levels. Right. So you, after Steve King in 2018, 2020 thought about running for Senate. That's right?

You considered it? Yeah, I was considering it. You know, all of this is a weird world. Politics is a weird world. I was just looking at my options. But ultimately, I decided, you know, I couldn't run for Senate and watch Steve King walk and get reelected. And so that was ultimately, Mike Cig.

Yeah, he's a failed Confederate general guy. The, I just read that this is the newspaper. If you don't want to talk about what I don't have to, but like, so when you were considering it, Chuck Schumer's people try to talk you out a running percent, right? They wanted, they wanted to, what's your name said? Once they picked, they got behind a candidate, they wanted to try to clear the field. Ultimately, that wasn't my decision. that didn't

affect my decision, really. I just think I was only asking, because there was a lot you said in the article I read. It was a, don't believe in trickle down economics or trickle down politics. You know, every once in a while I come up with something. Yeah, no, it's a good line. I mean, it's just theoretically possible that maybe you know Iowa

better than Chuck Schumer, but I'm no expert. Right. I did, because the way they messes up, so whatever's going on with the stimulus bill in Washington, I don't know what they're up to. It seems like that Pelosi's trying to cut a deal for half, which you've got to got three months ago. I don't know why they're giving up now when they have a potential for a unified government and enjoy after January 5th. But who knows.

Maybe they'll be able to pass more and it's just a stock gap. But I searched Pelosi on Twitter to see what people are saying about her. And the most things people were talking about, I didn't know where to this talking point, but Republicans are running around saying that Democrats are focused on legalizing pot instead of passing a COVID-reliquit relief bill. I don't know how much that's based in truth,

but I do know there's no official messaging pushback because nothing else was out there. And then I saw this Ilhan Omar tweet from today. Because the bill that McConnell wants to pass, one of the main things it does to help restaurants is bring back expense account lunches, right? Right. And so that's pretty much a layup here.

That's so corporate, though. I mean, that's so corporate. So Omar's like, many can't afford to have lunch and are lining up to pick up food donations and Republicans are worried about free martini lunch deductions. I was like, okay, why isn't everybody screaming that? Why isn't everybody screaming that? I understand how we can't get behind things

are organized sort of resistance to, like, how things are framed. It drives me nuts. Oh, yeah, you're preaching to the choir. What's frustrating is what you mentioned about legalizing marijuana. A lot of conservative places have actually just passed that. I think it was Montana to South Dakota. South Dakota, yeah.

Yeah. And so, but this is the point. You look at what McConnell is, I mean, there's so much material there. Why aren't we hammering on that with the fact that, you know, well, he's trying to get legal liability for corporations. here in Iowa, we had Tyson Foods in Waterloo. Their managers were placing bets on how many people would get COVID. They lied to the translators and then said, oh, this is really not a big deal. And it's just, it's nuts.

And they're so corporate heavy. That's why, like, how does the populist message not work? Okay. Well, I mean, you know, you're, I mean, hell, you're asking the same question. It's unfair to me to even do this to you. But I'm saying you having been on the inside and, like, done. the damn thing. I mean, like, why isn't it

the layup that Mark pointed out that it should? Because it feels like it should be why it's insane to me that especially in the times we live in, that the Democratic Party has just so firmly lost the official position of

the party of working people, right? Or what, like, why? Why? Like, why doesn't, why isn't it as simple as that? Here's an example. One of the biggest things I've known for other than running against Steve King on my platform was standing up against monopolies, especially in agriculture, and really enforcing our antitrust laws. To me, it's a no-brainer. I've gone and talked to farmers who will never vote for me and ones who always vote for me and everywhere in between.

And when I talk to them, I bring up the same things about monopolies. And they're like, you're exactly right. And not one of them has even challenged me or said, oh, no, no, no, you don't understand it. And yet I'm the only person. Mother Jones wrote an article saying he's the only candidate in America talking about this or talking about the Stockyards and Packers Act in 1921. Now that gets a little into the weeds. But the reality is like how in Iowa, how is no other candidate talking about this? And the reality is that there's a consultant class in the Democratic Party that, like, for example,

The D-Triple C says, hey, you should hire these consultants. These consultants, I mean, they might have worked in Iowa before, but they don't know Iowa issues. They don't know how important the local newspaper, the local radio, and all these things. And we keep on hiring these same people who claim to know Iowa, but they get blown out of the water. And so, I mean, I understand that I've lost twice, so I don't have all the answers. But I see clearly where the party's going and where it's leaving people. behind and groups behind and a populist message in the United States right now. You know, there's places that are doing phenomenal.

Don't get me wrong. And so when Trump talks about Wall Street and all this stuff, you know, there are some people who are doing really well, but the majority of the people are not. And let's, I want those people. And so what I like to call the Dollar General Coalition, you know, I don't know where it is about where you are at, but like here, Dollar General is taking over all these small towns and the undercutting the local grocer. And then you also go into the major

cities and in the poorer areas, there's dollar generals there. I want to build the dollar general coalition. That's my goal. Yeah, I mean, the dollar stores, I think they're growing fastest growing businesses in America, I think, or like they open the most locations, it's pretty crazy, especially

because like they're not even, if you guys never shop in a dollar store, they're not cheaper. They'd say, it's, what they do is they sell weird amounts of stuff. You go in there and get a third of a gallon of milk for the price of a half gallon, right? And so it's like it's not even, it doesn't help it. It's like a, it's like a payday loan place for food.

And it's unhealthy. They don't sell fresh meat, fresh produce. And so like it just, it drives me so insane that like, well, and the thing is, if you want to relate it to the Georgia race, David Purdue, the guy run for Senate, he, he was the CEO for Dollar General when they, they had their big expansion. And I believe there's more dollar generals in America than Walmart and Starbucks combined. I just think about like the going by the Iowa meatpacking plant thing where they were taking bets. Like I'm thinking about how differently if the shoe was on their foot, like the Republicans control the house and the politics was the opposite.

There'd be hearing. I know that hasn't been proven yet. It's just an accusation in your lawsuit. But they would be doing hearings about it, nonstop framing it as why. Democrats are to blame for why you don't have COVID really. Right. They're trying to get corporate liability protection so your boss can kill you. And then not only that, but they're going to bet on it.

And here they're trying to give them business deduction instead of helping you. Speaking of betting on it, not that we're odds makers here, but you were talking earlier about your race. He's got hit by this Trump wave. Nothing anybody could do. We've also brought up the Georgia race. And I'm just wondering, you know, gun to your head, how do you think that whole thing's going to pan out?

because obviously it's very up in the air. There's this whole thing going on right now of whether or not the Trump effect is going to, you know, be in effect in Georgia with the runoff. Because they literally have people showing up and yelling at Purdue and Loughler like, what are you doing to protect President Trump? You know, like, I'm trying to be hoarded. No, I know, I know, right? I know. I'm trying to contain my just overwhelming joy about how all of that's playing out so far, because I'm still. I'm a liberal southerner my whole life, so I've been, you know, I know about like getting my hopes too far up.

But I'm just really loving how all that's going so far. But I wonder what you think about what kind of effect it will actually have, in your opinion. I mean, the see Fox News get turned as like, you see those chance that Fox News suck. And they, like, I can only imagine just like the character of seeing these alt-rights. folks along with like the whole liberal side just like yeah we agree right i mean you know i all special elections are about turnout and so if they can get people out whatever side can get the most it's not about persuasion whatsoever it's about can you get a hold of your people and get them to come out and uh that's what it's all going to come down to and and i mean both races it looks like it's

going to be neck and neck, but hopefully with this little issue with Trump and all that. Like, it's night and day. In 2018, when Trump wasn't on the ticket in the state of Iowa, 52% of the people who voted for federal races, we have four congressional districts. So all four, if you add all them up, 52% of them vote for a Democrat. And then we had this just huge wave and going in the other direction because Trump was on the ballot. And so when he's not on the ticket, there's opportunity to have persuasion and talk to people and say, hey, listen, this is what I'm trying to do. When he's on the ballot, it just, it seems it was just this or this, and there was no chance to even have that discussion.

I think about your chemtrails guy. And I really think, like, because this is going to be like 30% of people by five years. You got like, you've got to have like concrete ways to reach them. I think what you do is you go, like, well, if chem trails are going to make you sick, what you need is Medicare for all. all, right? There you go. Outside the box. Or maybe I should just bought one of those planes that spell stuff in the sky and just

have my opponent's name. That's funny. All right. Well, listen, J.D., thank you so much for joining us. I want to give you, if there's anything you want to put on people's radar or anything that should check out, you know, if you were a comedian, plug your shows. but the equivalent of what you got going on, if you don't let people know what to check out,

please go ahead. I just finished an election. I'm literally trying to figure out what I'm going to do next. It's one of those things. And especially it's weird. And COVID, usually you would take like a vacation or something to get your mind at ease. I'm at home.

I live by myself. Like my world is really weird right now. So just I guess the only thing that I would like to plug is, if you're in Georgia, go out to vote. It's the difference. It's literally the difference between just, stalemate the Senate not doing anything,

and everybody else trying to wait on them and getting things done for the next two years or just getting some things done. Absolutely. So on a day they passed one million requested mail-in ballots, which they only have $5 million total votes in the presidential elections. That seemed like a big number to me.

Yeah, I don't know how to interpret that. I don't know Georgia politics that much. I'm hoping that's good. I'm hoping it's good. Well, listen, it's been a pleasure. Awesome conversation. Thank you so much, Jay, David. for joining us and yeah thanks david shilton everybody no worries take care happy holidays

all right well producer matt we're going to throw some uh comments up there if you got them whatever you got for us uh so the first reader question let's let's make it to you you ask this question in the outline about obama bush and clinton said they'll get the vaccine on tv yeah so and you ask do you think that will matter to anyone what do you what do you think about that no well actually you know what yeah I think it will matter to some people but I think the people that it will matter to will be mostly like Q&on conspiracy types

who are convinced that these former presidents taking it on air they'll be convinced that means that it is truly Bill Gates mind control poison shots that they're giving out or whatever Like people that are at all reasonable about the possibility of even getting the vaccine,

I don't see it helping that much. Although it's like, I don't know, but I don't know. Every little thing like that, I guess, can help. There's a proposal. I think what it would really help is paying people to take it. And there's a proposal game of steam to pay people $1,500 to get it, which is pretty funny to me because it presumes there's a bunch of people out there who are like, I believe the vaccine is so Bill J. Gates can microchip me and give my child autism,

and I will not take it except for $1,500. I want to say real quick before we go on. Way, way earlier in the show, we were talking about the ghost hunter guy or whatever. I saw a company, because if you're not, like, producer Mac can scroll up and down between the comments and stuff, me and Mark, the comments fly by it. I'm surged, right? which bless y'all's hearts for being out there in these numbers but anyway I saw a comment when we were talking about the ghost hunter guy earlier but I didn't

catch the name and I just want to bring it up now in the comment said if a ghost can throw a vase it can throw an election and I think that's a yeah that's a fair that's a fair remark yeah I like it yeah I like it good joke so super G I assume from YouTube says jello shots Mark? I sure I'll take one what we do I don't know. I was just really hoping that you would know exactly what that was in reference to. If you don't know, then I certainly don't know.

I guess what you missed. Maybe they drunk Michigan lady? She's like like a jello shot type. She definitely does seem like a jello shot type. Although, yeah, I wasn't up on her particular drinking. Matt's saying some of the things are taking take shots maybe to like they're just placebo's to the full people maybe. Oh, oh, getting shots. They're getting their shots.

But there's Jello shots. All right on. I got it. Yeah, you guys are hitting. Look, we're just slow. Man, Mark, on here. Slow on the uptake. Yeah, I don't know.

Again, I remain very worried about the election, or not the election, the vaccine situation. And I don't think that, and you were talking about paying people to take it. I totally get where you're coming from, and I think that would be great, but I don't know that, well, but at the end of the day, they'll take the money either way.

I'm going back and forth on it in my head, even as we're talking about it, because I think plenty of people would see that and be like, see, there ain't no way. There ain't no way. They'd be offering to pay you to take this thing if it wasn't mind-controlled baby blood poison or whatever. See, I think we fall on this travicova.

We think the big problem is people who are conspiracy theorists and deniers, and I don't think that's the big. problem with COVID. I think it's people, regular people who make small concessions for themselves. Like you've seen the mayors and the governors. You keep getting caught telling other people to stay at home and then they go to a restaurant. Like 80% of people are doing shit like that. So I think with the vaccines can be the largest group of people are going to be like, I want to get vaccinated, but I want to be the second wave and wait and see how it goes, right? So paying people just makes them, I want to get that $1,500 for this month's rent. I'll go get

it now. It just increases the urgency. So I think that would be the idea of mine. Yeah, I'm with it. Tech fan says, okay, if Bill Gates is a bad dude, why do these folks use windows? Well, how do you know that, tech fan? How you know they're not hardcore Apple adherents, you know? You don't know. Yeah.

Yeah, no, I don't know. Look, what can you even? I think it's so weird. People are skeptical of anyone who seems to be trying to do. Like, I always want the record that it's bad to be. a billionaire and these guys are doing a lot of like money laundering via philanthropy because Bill Gates pledged to give away all his money before he died and he's got more of it we got more money now than when he took a pledge right but he honestly seems to be

want to do stuff like give you know other African countries better cleaner water and malaria that's stuff that saves a lot of lives and he's been invested in trying to find a AIDS vaccine and make better condoms so like I don't really care why he's trying to help, but he seems to be trying to help. Right. Tracy Martinson says, there is no scenario that they cannot invent a conspiracy explanation for, and you're 100% right, Tracy. I mean, hell, that's like, that's the beauty of conspiracy theories, right? That's the beauty of being a conspiracy theorist is when you can just make it all up, like you can twist anything to fit your, you know, complicated web of nefarious

subterfuge globally. You just take it a step higher, right? But QAnon's gotten all the way to being angels and devils in charge of stead,

right? So you just I remember there's an X-Files scene that always think about and laugh when it comes to this shit.

So the the lone government the guy that's run these like conspiracy zine, they meet the cigarette smoking man, the guy that runs

all the secrets of the FBI, they're hiding him. And they're trying to, they're telling them their theory about how the CIA controlled Saddam Hussein and whatever yada yada yada and it may be getting

smoking man laughs and he goes ha you think there is a Saddam Hussein. Right. It's always so it's just what it is. Okay. Well all right, this one here is an interesting comment as far as I'm concerned. This is from Andrea

or Andrea L. Manning who says, I'm on board if Dr. Fauci is on board and I'm in the demographic where vaccines have been a detriment to our health. I don't know. So, like, first of all, I'm glad to hear that because I'm just, I'm glad to hear the ultimate takeaway of I'm on board with it. But I just, I don't know, Mark, maybe you know what she's talking about, but like, I mean, I'm assuming she's a person of color and black people have been experimented on, in medical experiments.

Okay, detrimental to our, all right. I was just thinking about like polio and shit like that, like the global scale. But yeah, okay, all right, I'm with you now. I mean, yes. I don't think it, under current law, it's illegal to intentionally expose people to a disease

to see if the vaccine is successful. You just had a cut them out of the world if they get it. But that wasn't, that wasn't changed until the 1970s. So in 1970s, you could put a person in a drug trial, I'll give a vaccine and then try to get it. Yeah, I get it now.

that was my own, I don't know, narrow-mindedness or whatever. I just interpreted that as an anti-vax type of sentiment because that's, you know, out there nowadays. But no, yeah, right. Absolutely, yes. You know, basically if a black person is willing to trust in the government because of Dr. Fauci and the scientists involved who are going to inject something into your veins, then we all should because of what they have gone through in the past.

I agree. If it makes any, if. if this isn't cutting in line, I will volunteer to take it before you so I can tell you how it made me feel. That'll be my small reparations to that community. All right. Well, it's our time.

Thank you for joining us this week on Evening Scus. We'll be back next week, next Tuesday, December, whatever that is, 8th, December the 8th next Tuesday, it's going to be a good time. We may have a very awesome and special guest for you all, but I'm hesitant to say it right now because we're still trying to nail it down,

but just stay tuned. We may have a big old super hitting ass guest coming on Tuesday or next week sometime. So stay tuned for that. And either way, we're going to be having a great time here. Maybe there'll be more farts, more drunk people, more drunk people farting. It's December 2020, baby.

Anything can happen and we'll be here all along the way. So we'll see you next Tuesday. I'm Trey, and that's Mark and producer mats out there. Give it a...