wellRED podcast - Evening Skews - Week of December 15, 2020

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This week we get into all the latest from the electoral college and Georgia and insane idiots and more! All the big COVID talk, from the vaccines rolling out to the ostensible Congressional relief package we all so desperately need, not that anyone in power gives a fuck, of course. Some great Dumbass material for you, and we also had a wonderful conversation with Mueller She Wrote's Allison Gill! Enjoy!

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Yes, well, here we are. Howdy, everybody. Welcome back. Today's Tuesday, December 15th. I'm Trey Crowder and that's Mark Aegee. What's up, Mark? What's up, Shrey? Looking good, bud.

How was your show the other night? Show went good. Thanks to any of y'all out there who came to our virtual show, our online comedy show Saturday. I had a great time. I hope you did too. But yeah, what about you? What's up?

I was just, when you're doing your show, by the way, were you looking at yourself on Zoom while you're performing? No, no. Well, I mean, I could have been, but I had to minimize it so I wouldn't throw myself off. I'm looking, when me and you were doing this, I'm looking at myself and you because I'm worried of something messing up, but otherwise I'd prefer not to.

I was thinking about that because I was reading this article today about people whose lives were actually better this year during COVID. And one lady was a plastic surgeon they were interviewing. She her office had to be closed for two months at the beginning of the year. But overall, business for the year was still up 20%. And the reason she can figure was people look at themselves on Zoom. Oh, you got to look at yourself all day. Yeah. Yeah, I can see that leading to an uptick in plastic surgery business.

Now, I can kind of relate to that a little bit. I wouldn't say, it's not guilt, but I always felt a little bit weird about the fact that, like, I first went viral with the liberal redneck and everything and popped through. That happened in 2016, which to most people who agree with me ideologically, one of the, probably the second worst year in recent memory behind only this one. And objectively speaking, especially professionally, like the best year of my life. Literally my dreams came true that year. while America's nightmare began.

But I mean, you know, I was upset by that too. I had both things happening at once. It's not like I didn't care about the other thing. But yeah, it's a weird dynamic, man. No, I mean, there's a bunch of liberals of Trump who's 401Ks went through the roof because he took all governors and regulators off the economy and let, you know, the chemical pump poison in the water. It's good.

It's good, just a lot of people in the short term. And I don't need all you to do you really personal guilt over as long as you didn't vote for. work. Well, I appreciate that, Mark. Hey, me, Mark, with us as always, producer Matt, behind the scenes doing the things. This is evening skews. Got a great show for y'all tonight. A lot to talk about. The Electoral College has officially deemed Joe Biden, the president-elect of these United States, but will that be enough? Yes, of course it would. Yes, it's how it works. You'd have to be brain-dead to think otherwise, but some people are not convinced. We'll talk about that later. Also, the latest in Georgia,

maybe some bill bar stuff. We'll see what happens. and a little bit later on we're having a conversation with podcaster extraordinaire Alison Gill from Mueller she wrote among others. All that and more on tonight's evening skews. But first, as always, producer Matt, let's do the daily dumbass. Tonight's DD is any of you smart asses out there who made your minds up about the results of this most recent election without first hearing from noted money. wench Maria Bartaromo and, and this is important, her sources. She has sources. Matt, play the clip.

An intel source telling me that President Trump did in fact win the election. He says that it is up to the Supreme Court to hear suits from other cases across the country to stop the clock. This follows the high court's refusal to hear the lawsuit from Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton, challenging results in four swing states. This worries me. Mark, because I don't know if you heard, but this is an intel source. See, because sure, the other sources we've seen from the right so far on the subject of election fraud, yes, they've been comically inept, they've been drunk, they've been farting, they've been ghost hunters.

That is all inexplicably literally true. But this is a source of a different color here, Mark. This is an intel source. So should we be worried? I don't know if I need to reassure. anyone, but the Money Honey lady who talked to the VP of

Vanguard Mutual Fund for two hours a day does not have high level CAA sources. So I wouldn't worry about it too much. But I don't know, these people keep doing there. Trump doesn't have been rid of this scam his whole life where he does that reality TV thing where he teases upcoming events, right?

The keep thing and just stay tuned. Everything's the biggest row of ceremony yet's coming up, right? Everything's like that. And Intel source tells us that he win, just this future occasion has to happen. It never happens, but like January 20th is coming out on like a truck. And I don't know how long they can keep kicking this can. It's fun.

Yeah, I was thinking it's not that she's like directly involved with everything Giuliani's been doing, trotting those witnesses out there and whatnot. But I just feel like if the people we've seen, you know, if those are like the public sources, you know, the ones that they'll like throw on national television to back up their claim, imagine what this shadowy intel source is. You know, it's like probably a dude that like played a CIA agent in McGiver or something like that. And then his wife left him and he got super conservative a few years ago. And now he's been banging the Trump drum or something.

There's no telling. Well, I mean, somebody cosplay as a high-level government intel source is literally what Q is. Yeah, you're right. That's true. So, I mean, eventually it's going to realize when come crashing down around them. I mean, even Fox News isn't going to let Maria Barrauma go on TV and say that Trump's actually the shadow president and Biden's whole presidency's fake. I mean, who knows, maybe. All right.

Yeah, well, so that's her daily dumbest, but we got at least one honorable mention for you, don't we? Mark, won't you set this one up? All right, so you're talking about your guilt over the 2016. So there's an old expression that goes, look, when there's blood on the streets by gold, right, or by land, however it goes. There's always a profit to be made. So say the country's being taken over by a satanic cabal. You could oppose that or you could use as an opportunity to sell some pillows. Yeah, I'm really good, man.

Give him a hand clap and a special thank you to the co-sponsor that really help fund a lot of this. Mr. MyPillow himself, Mike Lindell. Amazing patriot loves this country, loves us. Loves the president and the president loves him. And I gotta tell you, I love his codes, right? I love his pillows. I love his sheets. I love his mattress topper.

And I love his codes because you know what? The cracking has been released. You are part of the cracking. So for the best deals to support this patriot, use the code cracking. At mypillow.com. We got to show him some love. He doesn't talk about a lot of the hell that he goes. I love that.

They're plugging it in there. Like, it's a podcast. He's doing up there on stage. Just like throwing out the promo code. Everything. Hey, you still got a side hustle mark, even when you're,

you know, bringing democracy to its knees or whatever it is, they think they're doing. Still got them. Yeah. The Cracket, remind you is the simultaneous raves, the deep state that we launched one of the deep state to round them all up

and execute them for the, for, you know, eating the children's brains and running the petapoc ball. So he's, you couldn't try to stop that on one hand. On the other hand, you can sell them pillows. So, but I've seen a lot of, you know,

release the Cracken. It's been said a lot lately. It's been thrown out there. But releasing the Cracken has like well-defined meaning, even amongst their maniac community, right? Which a meaning that is not actually happening right now. So had the goalposts move, what is the Cracken nowadays? It still means the same thing?

What do they mean? Do they know what they mean? I mean, they don't know what, none of them ever knew what they meant because they refers to it to the 2010 reboot of Clash of the Titans, right? Yeah. With the guy from Taken, Liam. Liam Mason, yeah. Yeah.

Which the plot of which is, um, hate, the God of Hell is trying to take his revenge upon mankind and he releases this beast called the Cracken to, you know, defeat humanity and is rapidly defeated and sent back to hell. So the Cracken isn't the good guy in the movie. So none of it never made me sense. Yeah. Yeah, the cracking is, yeah, he's like the, like the, like the, the righteous, you know, weapon of the, the God of hell or whatever, which sounds about right to me.

Yeah. Given what they're up to. We had another, I mean, I'll just, I'll just put this, I'll just put this out there for everybody. We had another honorable mention that me and you talked about, well, we didn't debate it, but I wanted to make sure of something. We had another guy we wanted to talk about up top. It's a man that works in the Trump White House who got COVID-19, and very regrettably, it cost him an arm and a leg. No, I'm sorry, that's not right.

It cost him a toe in a leg. It cost him a toe in a leg. Literally, he lost his lower leg on one side and the big toe on the other side from COVID as a result of working in the COVID White House. And of course, because this is a dystopia we live in, his friends and family had to raise money through GoFundMe to do any sort of paying off of the medical bills. And Donald Trump has yet to donate to that. So obviously, this guy's decision is really paying off as of late choosing the right horse to back there in the White House. Because if anybody's wondering, he is a hardcore Trump guy. And probably even now, footless and toless, I imagine.

still very much on the Trump train. You don't need feet on the Trump train, Mark. It goes on its own rails. It's like one of those little children's choo-choo's you're right around the mall. You don't need to just coast around it. I like that. Yeah, we debated whether or not to make fun of this guy,

and we came on the side that it's fine because he is still in favor of the policy. He's got 300 some thousand people killed. Right. Yes. That's why I'm okay with it, yes, is because he's on the side of, you know, those that have led to 300,000 people being dead. So I can't feel that sorry for him.

Also, his name, Creed Bailey, which I think Cree, his name being Creed is kind of appropriate because this is a very Creed type thing if you're a fan of the office, you know, just feels like if anybody was going to lose their foot on the office, it would be Creed. I thought he'd be like the band because he had, like, with his arms wide open. Yeah, legs not so much, but arms still wide open. But yes, all the best goes out. to creed bailing his family from us. I mean,

no, that's not true. I don't have anything specifically against this dude in particular. Like, I don't, I don't want anybody to give any more sick or anything, but this is the closest we're probably going to get to any comeuppets for all this stuff. It's one person in the White House being seriously ill from them. Right, because all the rest of them had the good sense, as we talked about it on the previous episode,

to be rich and powerful, you know. Okay, I'm about to take a detour here, Mark, but I hope this is interesting to people. It's not on our lineup, but it's reminding me of it. Those of y'all are watching that follow me on social media, and stuff. You probably saw a couple weeks ago or thereabouts. I posted a video

of my mama and my sister sitting in a parking lot outside of a dollar store in rural Tennessee talking shit right, as they are want to do. What were they talking shit about? They're talking shit about and my sister is filming the dollar store

from a distance from the parking lot. They have a sign on the window. My sister, she did a great camera work on this because it starts with the sign on the window of the dollar store that says mask are required at all times she starts there then she pans over and you can see into the dollar store and no one not anybody working there not the multiple all obese people who came in and out during the time frame of this video literally not one single person had a mask on right and she sent me that just as it she's like

look at this fucking shit and i saw it and we just got off the air here We just had a show, and I was like, I said, Paige, can I please post that? Because my mama and sister are even more country than me, and they're sitting there like, look, it's not a goddamn mask inside. I swear to God, this bitch and her kid's all up in my shit the other day in Walmart. And I was like, back the fuck up, you know, like, that's why I posted it because they were being funny. But I asked for permission.

They gave it to me, Mark, and here's what I'm getting to. It didn't, like, blow smooth up, but it blew up a little bit, and it got a fair amount of and of course it got back to the people there in rural Tennessee. I'm still not going to name the specific dollar store or anything like that, but it's middle of nowhere Tennessee. It got back to them that this video had gone viral. And some people came into the comments, lighten us up,

lighting me and my mom and my sister all up for being, you know, shitty, for putting them on Front Street or whatever. And one of the girls that came in there said that she works at that dollar store, and this is what she said, Mark, and this is the part that I won't sure, like, how should I feel about this? She got on there and she said, I hope you realize that thanks to people like you,

I now have to wear a mask for eight hours a day when I work at this very demanding job that, you know, like I'm in there working my ass off. And now because of y'all, I'm forced to wear a mask the whole time I'm in there and I hope you're happy. You think I should be happy? I feel bad for this lady

It does suck she has to work at her job We're in a mask all day But it's not your fucking fault The pandemic happened Blame also if you have that job You should have a mask Like you should be wearing a mask If you're in there doing that job

Or they're in there shopping Right? Like that's like She could be standing She only standing across breathing From like a couple hundred people a day It's like I can't wrap my rind around Look it's not fun wearing a mask

But I don't consider it some big sacrifice. I don't know. If they're wearing the N-95s, those can probably work for eight hours. I get that. But cloth mask, I don't get it. I can't write my mind around it. See, we, I know it's got, me, my mama and my sister,

and me and my sister is way because of my mama. We got this whole thing that white trash people or want to have about, you know, I don't know if you've heard this before, but see, Mark, snitches, they get stitches. See, that's how that works. But no,

My mom is a felon. She's been to, been to prison multiple times, and we're just very, we're not about that snitching life. And so it's been this weird thing that's going on with us. Like we,

I know, like, philosophically, morally and ethically and everything, I'm like, I hear shit like that and I'm like, good. Y'all need to be wearing a fucking mask.

You know what I mean? My uncle, who's, has major comorbidities and stuff and lives in that area, you're putting him at risk. So fuck you. Wear a goddamn mask.

right like that's the one side of my brain but then I have this other side it's like oh man I fucking told the man what was going on and the man came down on them or whatever and I don't I fall way more on the former side than the latter but I'm just saying it's a thing we've we've had to sort of grapple with I guess because we're like oh man was that fucked up you know should we have done that or not but then land on the side of fuck damn I'm firmly anti-snitching as well. The dynamics of why I'm opposed to snitching and why people are opposed to is it's usually someone getting themselves over or get themselves out of trouble by sacrificing a third party, right? Right. Like, throwing one of your neighbors, your brothers under the bus to the man to save your own ass, right? That's why it's looked down upon.

This is not that. This is a bunch of people putting other people in danger who are now not being punished and politely asked to stop doing that. It'd be like if you turn somebody in for drunk driving and their punishment was they didn't get the drunk drive anymore. Now they didn't go to jail. They didn't get a fine. They just weren't going to drive sober now. Right. You're right.

See, I'm glad I brought it up. I know you get me there, Mark. I appreciate it. That's why you're smart Mark, baby. Social media has like, like, what's the original snitching and content? It's really like, to quote one of my favorite rappers, Ben Stables, been staples, social media is just flash photography snitching. but like so

Instagram is just snitching. That's what it is. I don't know. All right. So I'm sorry to have derailed us there for a second, but it's popped into my head. It seemed relevant at the time. Let's talk about some actual news here.

As I mentioned up top, yesterday the electoral college officially voted for Joe Biden as the president-elect of the United States. And you would think like maybe, well, if you hadn't been paying attention for the past, I don't know, four years at least.

You might think that would be the end of it. But there's been a lot of chirping about the Republicans in Congress challenging this and how they might have some sort of legislative leg to stand on in which to do so. And they're rallying the troops to challenge this certification and somehow overturn actual election results and what's supposed to be a democracy. But even Mitch McConnell has reportedly told the rest of his peers in Congress, don't fucking do that. We're not going to do that. And far better for me to laud Mitch McConnell,

that's not what I'm doing. I think that that's just indicative of how ridiculous of an idea that this is, right? That they could even do that. They can't do that. They didn't have a lane. They didn't have an angle.

But they did see an angle in like performative outrage about the election, like to look like heroes to the Trump movement or whatever. So this makes me wonder what the polling looks like coming out of Georgia or just nationwide. about how clownish and buffoonish they look

at like this pickets charge type thing they were doing to try to save Trump that wasn't headed anywhere. It must have got awful if McConnell's stepping up now because he's not doing it for the good of the country or to save people's lives or anything like that. He's doing it to try to save his job, which is interesting. Right. And even he, so even he as part of this whole thing, he finally admitted what the rest of us have known for months now.

Matt, let's play the clip. He finally admitted. But our system of government has processes to determine who will be sworn in on January the 20th. The electoral college has spoken. So today I want to congratulate President-elect Joe Biden. The President-elect is no stranger to the Senate. He's devoted himself to public service for many years. I also want to congratulate the Vice President-elect, our colleague from California, Senator Harris. Beyond our differences, all Americans can take pride that our nation has a female vice president-elect for the very first.

But when someone as famously obstructive and partisan as this motherfucker is just outright saying it, like, what leg to any of them have left to stand on? And I'm not making a COVID joke right now. But yeah. Yeah. And if you're wondering if Trump handled that well or whether he's going to see Donald signaling that. that the party should move on and just try to win Georgia. Roll that CNN clip, Jake Taborman.

President Trump continues to deny that he lost, even retweeting a truly deranged suggestion on Twitter that state leaders from Georgia will soon be jailed for abiding by the law. They, of course, will not, as CNN's Caitlin Collins. So for the people listen to the podcast, the picture of the tweet had Braffensberger and Kemp wearing masks that were the flag of communist China.

So our boy is not going to relent in his campaign to get somebody shot. He does until somebody gets shot, he's not going to let up. I got a respected guy with goals. So this is an environment in Georgia. So it's just today McConnell's Superpack dropped $7 million on ad spending against Aosoph. So if you're wondering why they're worried, maybe why this happened today. yesterday was the first day of early voting in Georgia and it broke records it was it was like I don't know 25% more than voted the first day of the general election dude I'm not going to

lie that I mean that surprises me frankly even still even with the context of everything that's going on right now just because like the I mean you said it was more than the first day of early voting for the general election which I thought was like the most motivated either side of it had been in a very long time I was obviously hopeful about turnout in Georgia, but I didn't, I didn't think it, I didn't think it'd be like that. I didn't think it'd be like record shattering numbers. That's wild to me. I mean, it's not wild to me because they started actually promising stuff.

Like there's a big, one of Bernie's old advisors just, he did, went through a bunch of electoral analysis and was trying to come up with, like a three-word slogan you could say to get people to turn out for Democrats and frame what their message was. And it was essentially workers wages weed. Yeah, right. Worker organ and policies to like give employees a seat on the boards of corporations, which is extremely popular, wages, $15 minimum wage, and legalize weed. Guess what three things John Ossoff tweeted about in the last 48 hours.

So Biden was down there today, give a big speech saying if you give us two Democratic senators and will improve your life. So, like, that stuff, clear messaging like that, actually, when we hammered this drum all the time, but it actually works. Yeah. No, I mean, yeah. I mean, yes, you literally, you've been hammering that drum since I've known you, which I've always agreed with you. Like, why there's so many things that seem like layups.

And those, like, the Democrats used to be the party of the working people. Everybody wants more money in their pocket. Everybody wants to keep their job. And I know the Republicans harp on jobs, too, but it's always from the top down, you know, actually focus on the people. doing the jobs, you're going to get paid more, you're going to get taken care of. And yes, at this point of the game, almost no one has a problem with weed anymore.

It's just, and there's no, like, what is the downside of taking these positions? It's always baffled me that they drop the ball with these seemingly easy platforms, but, you know, maybe that's coming to an end. Like, maybe this is the beginning of the end of that. and that will just be the status quo now on the left in this country. I mean, that would be great. I feel like if you see good results from it, you should keep doing it,

even if you are seemingly willfully opposed to victory. If you somehow fuck up and win, you're going to keep the policies going, I would think. So I don't know. Fingers crossed. I will concede that I'm an outlier as far as anger goes. I will accept that. But this framing that everyone seems to believe that people,

like the Democratic Party establishment seems to believe that people love their insurance companies and love their bosses. It's just, it's sort of beyond me. But anyway, if you... Okay, well, hold, hang on real quick. Because, like, generally I agree with you. But, you know, you're from rural Virginia and everything. And I'm from, like, there's very much this idea, like,

in cold country, but in other places, too, where, like, there's one big company or employer that kind of is the town, like that everyone works for. Like I've talked a lot before, I'm from a town that had a big Oshkosh factory. And when the factory left, it devastated us forever and we've never recovered. It was a huge deal.

But there's definitely a thing where there's a lot of positivity and gratitude towards these like almost paternal corporations that some people have in certain towns. But I think especially with more and more them leaving and fucking off recently, you know, less people are as on board with that. But I do think there's a lot of people out there who, you know, people are company people, just for lack of a better way to put it. I mean, people take pride in their work. And they take pride in the work that built their towns and their communities.

But you're talking about coal miners. I mean, people marched up Blair Mountain with shotguns and killed Pinkertons to get help. 100%. Yes. You're right. So it's just like, I think people can say, You can be like, I believe this company can be better and it should treat my coworkers better, but I enjoy working here. And one way we could do that would be employees got a seat on the board and we've got to say in things.

We've got to push wages up and to get a share of the profits. Well, I mean, I've got a buddy that works for a factory in Tennessee and I'm not going to say which one. But I know that, like, it was a big factory that hadn't been there long. They just came in recently. And this is a few years ago now. And it was a big deal. And so they hadn't been there long. And they had a whole retreat for the employees.

about unionization because it was like a possibility that might get up that might get broached soon. The employees there unionizing and they had a whole retreat for all of them. And first of all, I always thought this was hilarious. He said the first thing that happened was a lady came in to the first meeting playing the role of the union lady. And he said they had a bunch of coffee and donuts. And he said this lady walked in and the very first thing she did was spit on all the donuts before she even started. talking. So like the demonization of unions is just hilarious.

It's a true story. But also it, but it was presented as just like, look, here's the deal. Y'all try to unionize. We just got here. We're going. We're leaving again. Right? Because that's the type of shit they pull. And I'm saying a whole lot of those people and I understand where their heads are at. They're like, why can't lose this job? You know what I mean?

They feel like backed into a corner with that type of thing. I mean, I know look, people do get frustrated with unions. I'm in one union. I think you're probably in two. they can be like homeowners associations, all right? They can demand things of you that are annoying and tell you have a little bit too much control of your life, maybe sometimes.

But if you resent people having total control of your lives, I have some news to you about bosses and corporations. So, but... No, I'm with you. And again, if it wasn't clear, the lady who spent on the donuts was not actually a union person. She was like the person sitting there to, you know,

represent that or whatever. But no, I mean, I'm with you. I'm just saying, saying I can understand the sort of fear that comes from people on the other side, you know, worrying about losing their jobs or whatnot if the union came in. But anyway, I've derailed us yet again. No, I do want to say, if you want to see what the flip side, like usually it's the Democrats doing weird confusing messaging and Republicans being clear. Democrats are trying to be clear in Georgia. And before we bring out, one thing Republicans resorted to, this is the current messaging

in Georgia today. See if you bring up that Reverend Warnock video there. That's pretty funny. You know, one of the things that they call him Reverend Warnock, we started calling him Reverend Warlock. Just kill, just a killer bit, man. They're always so good with the nicknames, aren't they?

It's always, yes, just classic. Sleepy Joe, Crooked Hillary, Reverend Warlock. I meant those bad that fucking ninsings, dude. Yeah, no, you're right. That one is cool. I would embrace that one. Yeah, fucking, yeah, I'm a wizard motherfucker. All right.

Listen, let's get to our guests and I. We're very excited to have her here. Allison Gill is the host and executive producer of Mueller. She wrote and The Daily Beans Podcasts. And works as an executive at Starburn's audio. Allison holds an MBA and a doctorate in health administration, having worked for the federal government for 11 years. She's also a successful comedian and writer and is a disabled Navy veteran

and graduate of the Naval Nuclear Power Training Program. Everybody, please welcome Dr. Allison Gill. Hello, Allison. How's it going? Hello, I made a Norma Ray sign, but I... There we go. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, absolutely.

Again, I cannot... We're good, we're good. But I cannot stress enough how pro-union I am. Just sharing some anecdotes there. So listen, Allison, I want to... first start by just getting right into it. Look, everything, the Mueller report, the Russia affair and that whole thing at this point, it's been talked to death and it lasted for years and it's been studied extensively and everything. And you were on the front lines of

looking into that, summarizing that for people and taking, you know, digesting as much of it as you could every single day through your podcast. So I'm wondering like now, where we're staying right now looking back at everything with Trump and Russia. in 2016. What's your kind of final stance on what actually happened? Well, I think everyone is probably sick to death of talking about the Mueller investigation. But the way that, you know, when we stand back and look at it, and we're only like a year out now, things are going to, you know, our view is going to change as we get further and further away from it and closer to the truth. But basically, Bill Barrow.

came in and shellacked the whole thing. Rosenstein narrowed the scope and then a federal judge, Reggie Walton, determined in court that many of the redactions in the Mueller report made by Bill Barr were inappropriate. And when he released those redactions that were supposed to be to protect privacy or, you know, for grand jury secrecy or whatever that weren't, they were actually just random redactions that he made. We found out they weren't very random. He was trying to downplay the role that Russia had in the 2016 election to go along with the way Trump wanted everyone to believe it happened, basically saying that, you know, Russia was a hoax, nothing happened, even though they had more than 100 contacts. So I think as more and more information

comes out, we're going to learn more and more about what was scored up and stymied and a lot of the things that weren't even investigated in that investigation. Well, okay, but let me ask you this, though. You got to give it up to the Democrats in this country, right? Despite all that, despite everything that happened, we managed somehow to flip the script

this election, and we stole it back. We stole this one. We did. They only thought that they knew how to fraudulate an election, okay? But no, we wrote the book on fraudulenting elections, and I think we just proved it in November. Am I right? We should be proud. We stole it with the cunning use of votes.

Yeah. And, you know, I mean, this was his plan the whole time to not concede and delegitimized the election. We saw the text messages back and forth between Don Jr. and Julian Assange. And Julian Assange said, hey, in 2016, in November, if your dad loses, don't concede. Say it's the correct media. Say it's a fraudulent rigged election. And he's been saying that. He said it before 2016. He's been saying it before And I's continuing to say it afterwards. It's always been the plan. So, I mean, here we are. And, you know, we, we had been preaching, I guess is one way to say it on the podcast. Look, don't expect Mueller to save you. Don't expect Nancy Pelosi or Mitch McConnell in the Senate to save us. We are the Muellers we've been waiting for. We have to vote. It's up to us. It's our democracy. It's our country. And we did. Yeah, no, I agree with you completely. I felt like almost. fetus or something at the time, but I just couldn't help it. I was, the whole time that was going on, I just could not believe that it would ever actually amount to anything as far as getting him out of office goes.

And the whole time I was like, look, I know it sucks because, hey, it's 2017, 2018, right now. But our one and only play is to just vote him out in 2020. And that ends up being the way it panned out. I wanted to ask you, though, you and I have something in common. we, before we got into this illustrious comedy industry, that we're at comedy and podcasting industry we're in right now, you worked for the federal government, and I did too.

Now, you're a veteran. I'm not. I'm a lowly civilian, former federal employee. But I used to work for the Department of Energy, and I worked for the Department of Energy when I started doing stand-up comedy in 2010, and I found out about a little thing called the Hatch Act, right, which we don't have to get into the ends and outs of it, but it made me very worried. It was basically, there's rules about what a federal employee can say publicly, as I understood it,

in the capacity of being a federal employee. So just to cover all my bases, I never talked about my job on stage and I also never talked about being on stage while I was at my job. And it all worked out fine for me. I ended up leaving the moment I could. But it kind of turned into a whole thing for you, though. Because you started the podcasting when you were still working there. And it became relevant to the Hatch Act and all these rules, right? You kind of got ran out of town.

Is that accurate? Yeah. Yeah, you got canceled. You actually got canceled by the government. So it's different. Yeah, by Trump. Bummer. Yeah.

Yeah, no, we actually have a lot more in common than I realized. I started comedy in 2009 and I started working for the government in 2009. Yeah. And the whole time I was doing. comedy and on stage, I didn't mention one or the in the other and the other and the other. But I didn't start getting political until 2018, the end of 2017, when I started the Mueller, she wrote podcast. Now, the government had never bothered me about my comedy career. They had never questioned me about it. And it wasn't until probably early 2019 when the podcast

was nominated for a Webby. We ended up winning. We were getting like massive press that they started to have a problem with what I did in my spare time. Now, I had, unbeknownst to them, I had hired lawyers to ensure that I didn't run afoul of any ethics violations, any ethics rules, and the Hatch Act. And I don't know when you left government, but right around 2019, right around that time, they sort of revamped the Hatch Act, not to just say you can't oppose or support a candidate running for political office, but you can't do as Trump personally. And I was like, why do you have to add your name on everything?

Why do you got to put your name on everything, man? It's not about you. And you're a candidate for political office. You're covered already. We don't have to specify in you. No, I left in 2016. And actually, before I left that job, in May or June of 2016, so Trump wasn't, hadn't been elected.

The election hadn't happened yet. I worked, the whole time I worked for the government, 2010 to 2016, it was Barack Obama. And now at the time, most of the people I worked with had worked there for years and years through multiple presidents. It was just a thing, you know, you work through multiple administrations, you go with the flow or whatever. I never had to do that. I only worked for Obama, and I've said before or under Obama, and under, I work for the Department of Energy, under actual scientist, the head of physics, at Stanford Laboratory, the head of physics and energy at MIT. Those were the energy secretaries that I worked under, right?

And right after I left and after Trump's election, the energy secretary became Rick Perry, who literally forgot that that agency existed publicly a few years prior. So like I always used to say, I'm so retroactively grateful to the Internet for making sure that I never had to work for Rick Perry. But I guess so my question is you were there through, you were there in the Obama administration, but then also through the Trump transfer.

And you worked for the Department of Veteran Affairs, right? But how was what kind of, you already talked about 2019, the Hatch Act and how that changed things, but how markedly different was it, like when the switchover happened? It was pretty terrible. First, Jared Kushner was put in charge of modernizing the department of Veterans Affairs because you know his vast experience with government agencies and I think he's a veteran too. So he came in and he told the VA, for every five rules you have, you need to cut two. And we're like, these are important rules because people could die.

And he's like, we got to do it. We got to do it. So we worked on that for a while. That was called the modernization of the VA. And they started working toward making the Choice Act was supposed to be temporary in the reason is because it leads down the privatization of the Department of Veterans Affairs, sending veterans to private health and providers at triple the cost with a much lower rate of quality of care and a much longer wait time for that. So that started going on. They started trying to consolidate

the contracts. And so it was a lot of that. And then of course in October of 2019, the inspector general for the VA came out with their scathing report about the accountability in whistleblower protection office at the department of veterans affairs it had basically turned in free it was built to protect whistleblowers and um go after uh appointees who were doing the wrong thing and ended up protecting the appointees and going after the whistleblowers and uh i remember right around that time i'd interviewed dr shalkin who had also been removed from department of veterans affairs by Trump because he wasn't going along with their privatization plans.

And he put that office together and he was so distraught that what that was meant for had been completely gutted and they were going after whistleblowers like me. Right. Yeah. Yeah. And you lost your job. Well, again, I mean, you know, you're doing well. You're out there killing it.

It's great. But yes, you were, I mean, you were fucking targeted for sure over that stuff. Mark, I'm monopolizing the interview. Please ask some questions. I was going to think, where are the free speech lawyers and shit like that happens to you? You know? I've got some great lawyers at Cater Parks Harris in D.C. who are helping me with my case for wrongful termination from the VA under Title VII for my disability

and for a violation of my First Amendment rights. So it's going to take years. but we're working on it. Yeah, I mean, it's nice that you've come full circle from doing a podcast about trying to hold Trump legally accountable and then just personally doing it. It's kind of like a nice career, Ordin story. Speaking of which, so the Russian stuff,

trying to talk about it before, I wouldn't say debate it because everyone sorted into their camps before anyone knew what it actually happened, right? You got Trump is saying a frame job. You got never Trumpers doing like Cold War cosplay. You got like centrists and liberals doing like homeland cosplay. And then you got leftist saying it's just it's just like, you know, blame deflecting for the DNC and the claim campaign.

And I fall born in camp of like something hinky definitely happened. It was crooked. I just can't wrap my mind around like international finance is such a morass. Like if you work in international finance. finance, you can't, like, move money without actually working for ISIS or the Saudi or the Saudis or the Saudis or the Siloara cartel or Russian mob or, you know, it's like it's just such a Iranian Revolutionary Guard. Yeah. Yeah. The Trump's got caught. Like you're referring to like they got caught laundering money for like, I think it was a hotel in Azerbaijan for

Iranian. Yeah. Yeah. Like it's like what Russia did was super blunt and they actually committed an out and crime by hacking the DNC. But like if they have been clever and just like, you know, spent a couple billion dollars investing in VC funds and because then hire lobbyists that the Saudis did, but it would have been much more kosher, you know. Yeah, that's true, but then they wouldn't get to build their big fun shiny internet research agency building. And a lot of that stuff is what got redacted from the Mueller report by Bill Barr that was improperly redacted, the scope and size of the internet research agency and the attack. on our social media were huge and he downplayed those because I mean I mean the reason is obvious so

there was a lot that went on you know there was collusion collusion is not a term of art in in federal criminal law but you know if you also like read Andrew Weissman's book and and actually you know read through the Mueller report they clearly lay out the reasons like for example they didn't charge Don Jr. and Manafort with crimes for Trump Tower meeting because first of all the Don Jr. was too dumb to crime. You actually have to prove corrupt intent. And they decided he was too dumb to be corruptible. And they didn't charge Manafort. And they could have because he wasn't too dumb to be corruptible. But they already had him on 18 counts of tax fraud, which is a way more black and white case. So that, you know, as a prosecutor, you go with the clear

victory instead of the, well, not too many people have, you know, done this election for. fraud, illegal, you know, U.S., what is it, defrauding the United States, conspiracy to defraud the United States charges are harder to make sticks. So they stuck with that. It's the only reason they didn't charge Manafort for conspiracy to get the campaign done. So you mentioned going for the, you know, going for the better odds, right? Kind of in that vein, I guess, also said earlier, I never believed that Trump was going to face any actual repercussions from this while he was in office. I knew it was going to have to come down the election. So I want to know

on that note, in your opinion, what are the odds that he will actually face like legal repercussions now? For any of it, I mean, because there's like hope out there that, you know, oh, there's all kinds of AGs just sitting on go. They've just been waiting on him

to get out of the White House, you know, to take him down. That's what's going to happen. They're going to take him out of there in handcuffs. He's going to go to jail. I've seen you know, optimistic lefties saying things like that. I can't can't make myself believe any of that either. I'm just going to be happy with him being gone. But do you think any of that's actually likely or plausible that that'll happen? Yeah, we put out a lot of justice porn. I'll tell you I'm guilty of that when, you know, when we were doing the Mueller

She Wrote podcast, the dreams of him being dragged out in handcuffs, but people guys in FBI jackets in slow motion. But honestly, I think he's going to try to pardon himself. I think that's one of the reasons Bill Barr is going away because Bill Barr, I don't think, I think he tried to get Bill Barr to write him an office illegal counsel memo. And this is all speculation. I don't have any proof of this. I think you got Bill Barr to try to write him an office illegal counsel memo saying it's, it's legal for a president to pardon himself. And Barr's like, no, man. And he's like, well, you're fired. And he's like, let me quit. I'll write you a nice letter. And so they agree. And so then, you know, now we're at the, at this point where today, the new,

New York Attorney General won one of her court battles to get documents about the Seven Springs of States, a lot of Trump org documents. And so she's doing a civil suit, but anything criminal can be referred to the grand jury in the Manhattan District Attorney's Office. And I think he can be brought up on charges, and those will be state-level charges, unpardonable. And I think that they will at least go for the Trump organization, probably the kids, possibly the president. But if he pardons himself, I don't know that anyone's going to challenge that,

though I think they should. But those federal crimes like the obstruction of justice, the clear obstruction of justice in the Mueller investigation won't be allowed to be prosecuted unless some attorney general or prosecutor at the Department of Justice is like, no, the pardon is corrupt. You can't pardon yourself. I'm going to charge him with obstruction of justice and we'll let a court decide if a president can pardon himself. that uh sorry i would say the uh that new york age i mean i think most likely what happened is he'll spend the rest of his life in and out of court defending himself from various lawsuits and maybe i don't think he'll actually see it um i don't think there will be a result

he's very good at saving off consequences by dragging his feet like that new york a g's suit today the hearing is it's pretty funny because it's taken a couple years to get this result but what the trump organization was asserting was um the civil suit you can correct me if i'm wrong ag but i think it's like over $21 million tax break they got. And by adjusting the value of a property, which the state is saying is fraudulent. But what they, they were trying to get this engineers report. And the Trump organization was asserting that they had engineer client privilege. And that took two years to tell them to fuck off.

Yeah, no, they were, they were, that was their argument. And it was, it was attorney client privilege saying that the engineers documents were necessary for the Trump organization. lawyers. And so that's what the weird road they were trying to take. And the court's like, there's no privilege here. And so they have to turn the documents over. But yeah, it does take a really long time to do that kind of stuff. And that's just one part of that investigation. The Seven Springs of States, basically the law that he allegedly broke there was it's called a, oh, what's it called, an assessment, an easement, an easement tax deduction. Meaning if you buy a giant property like Seven Springs and you don't develop it like you don't build a casino will give you a tax

break on the value of the property and he over really over bloated the value of that property and was using it for personal use those two things are against the law but you know if there's if there was a crime in there you know the civil suit is really just to you know probably try to shut down the trump organization or strip them of their business licensure or whatever but if there's criminal referrals in there. He could be charged with a crime and these are state level crimes. But, you know, we'll see. Some people might not want to take on that flag. And then you also have to remember, he's possibly an incredibly valuable informant. And he may make a deal to go after, I don't know, Firtash or Mogulievich or somebody in Iran or Erdogan. I mean, he could deal away

quite a bit of criminal information on other people the Department of Justice might want to go after. I mean, if you ever asked yourself why he's never gone to jail, I think he's a rat. Well, I mean, I could, if that, if he can do that, if anybody wants him to do that, obviously he will, you know, like there's no, there's no question that he will. So, I mean, yeah, it's very easy for me to believe that that could be an outcome. Also, I just think that like, and obviously I'm not, if he gets away with doing it, I'm not in favor of it, but I have to say there's something almost poetic about pretty much the final act of Trump's presidency being pardoning himself. That's like you almost have to appreciate it.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I mean. I mean, the funniest end of all this is him ratting on Don Jr. That'd be my favorite ending. So, A.G., listen, I want you to let everybody know, you know, what you're.

got going on how they can check you out, support your stuff if they'd like to. What's up with you? Thanks, Trey. Every day, Monday through Friday, we host the Daily Beans, myself and Dana Goldberg, and then with Amy Carrero on Fridays. It's absolutely so much fun. It's the most fun you'll have with the news. It's news with swearing.

So, like, if you like Maddo and you wish you would drop an F-bomb now and again, that's what we do. And then if you want to check out the Mueller, she wrote podcast, it's done. It's over, but all the archives are there. if you can just search for podcasts, Mueller, she wrote. Follow me on Twitter at Mueller, she wrote. That's where I tweet most of the time. And now that I'm out of the, you know,

I'm out as Alison Gill, you can follow me at Alice Gill as well. All right. Well, there you have it, everybody. Allison Gill, AG, yourself. Yeah, give her a follow, check her stuff out. AG, thank you so much for joining us. It was fantastic. We appreciate it.

It was great. Thank you. Thank you. All righty. Producer Matt, you can start throwing some comments up there. let's see what what what should you all what do we want from the people mark what do we want what we want to hear about from him about i was listening to um uh keel of episodes of alizon's podcast and there's something like to say to the rush the gate stuff the important part from the trump

campaigns end was like the the heck the emails going to get covered if the trump campaign doesn't make a big big deal about them so to get them on the front page the newspaper trump had to wave around the papers right at all the rallies to the carrot live. So, I mean, that was like, she said something on one of her last podcast.

It really stuck me. I meant to ask her about it, but one of the affidavits about Manafort said that he showed up late and left early and was barely ever ran campaign quarters. It was just like the exact quote, Manafort was not a hard worker, end quote. And everything they do is that level of scam.

Do you know, one of the reasons I could never wrap my mind around it being like high level spy craft is they're just lazy and fucking stupid. Like, Right. So, so what is, what do you,

what do you think? I mean, well, hopefully we'll actually know what happened, but what do you think the big secret? What would be the biggest secret that would come out of at the Trump administration that would shock you? Oh my God.

Well, this is not, this is kind of a cop out, but the, but the biggest thing that could come, that, the biggest thing that could come out of the Trump administration that would shock me is if he is actually.

leading the fight against the global pedophilic of cannibals. If Q was real. Nothing could ever, ever, ever, ever surprise me more than if that happened. Cia McKenzie asked for AG's pages again. I know Mueller she wrote on Twitter, but also Alison Gill on Twitter. The podcast are Muller, she wrote, and the Daily Bean. So if you look those up, you will find it. And yes, we're thrilled that she joined us.

You know when a, about your theory about Q, it would be shocking if Q was real. So you remember what? Do you not just think Claire wrote the jungle. He thought he was doing a socialist expose about horrible working conditions, but people were falling in meat vats, right, and getting ground up in a hot dog.

Yeah, yeah. And they were shocked about what was in their hot dogs. That was their concern was for the same. Yes, right, right, yeah. And that's why he got the FDA and shit. So it makes you think, like, if it came out that Q was real, that would mean the drinking baby,

a drinicrine or whatever helps you live work. I think if you're like, oh shit, we got to get the green cream on the market. Oh, dude, somebody fucking Johnson Johnson or somebody will be working on synthesizing and mass producing that

baby blood cocktail next week if it came out that it actually worked. But, well, I mean, you, because I have to imagine you've got an answer for the question you asked me, what would be the wildest thing to you if it came out? And I know I kind of cheated, but what do you think?

I think it would be like I mean nothing was shot nothing money wise was shocked at this point like if it if it came out that we were bombing I don't know what are the 17 countries we're at war in right now because somebody owed Jerry Kushner money that would not shock me would disgust me

but I don't know how would think anything could shock me except if we have turned out they've been competent this whole time that would fucking astonishment I know well that's kind of That's kind of what I'm saying too. Like I feel like almost nothing could shock me at this point for the exact same reason. So the only thing that would truly shock me is something on the other side of it.

Smoker Joe says the big guy takes communist bribes. It does though. Yeah, right. Like they found $15 million in secret bank account in China like a month ago. And then they've been giving Ivanka patents for all kinds of shit she didn't come up with like to bribe or with it. So that's like, I mean, it's it's, it's in bribery if you don't hide it. That's what that's the, that's the, that's one of the big questions to the Trump era. You just put your hand out and take money and don't, you know, don't sky.

Linda Orwell, Medina says, what do you think about Barr resigning? You think like, you think he was like fired basically? Does it even matter at this point? Because obviously he kind of pissed Trump off right before he left. But he said, hey, I'm leaving. And Trump was like, yeah, he's a great guy. It's fine. What do you think about all that?

Allison's theory is interesting about he wouldn't write because I honestly I'd be shocked if Barr wouldn't write the memo to say it's fine for President's Department of his long existing judicial philosophy going back 40 years is that a unitary executive theory that basically we have the President's King and can do whatever you want do whatever he wants so remember that famous the Frost Nixon interviewer where Nixon said it's not illegal if the president does it? The president does it yeah

that's essentially a Bill Barr believed so that would it would shock me if Barthaw the president couldn't part of himself. But as much as his name has been dragged through the mud, maybe there's one final thing he didn't want to be a part of, you know? Tim Trujahela says, I would be shocked if he actually gave his own money to a charity. We're talking about Trump or Barr here.

Either way, I would be, I would be shocked as well. Yeah. You know, so the Trump thing, or as far as Trump goes, all the money he's taking from people to fight this horrific injustice that he has faced with losing the free and open election uh apparently and we talked about this a little bit before a few weeks ago but like apparently like legally he only has to actually spend like 25% of that or something on the on the stated purpose so like that he's just it's the ultimate grifter is what i'm saying like it's the opposite he doesn't donate to charities charities

donate to him, baby. That's how it works in Trump world. But I'm saying, yeah, right. So he raised a big deal in 2016. There was in a fight with Fox where he skipped the Fox debate to drive their ratings down. Instead held like a telephone kind of thing to raise money for troops. They raised $5 million. And no one could fairly do with the money.

And reporters kept asking questions and attorney. He finally gave it like a million dollars each to five veterans organizations. Like after six months of people bugging him about it. He was just going to keep the $5 million. yeah right yeah right yeah like you're right yeah like you're saying you're that guy in that scenario why wouldn't you oh but uh yeah i don't know who you think's doing the christmas stuff mark like at the white house you know at the white house like someone like milania they're still technically there so is she doing the christmas stuff it's christmas time someone has to do the

christmas stuff or is there no christmas stuff at white house this year i think uh they the voter fraud grinch stole the christmas spirit from the white house house. Oh, the greatest crime. I couldn't find a video of it for the show, but today in the middle of his speech, Joe Biden shouted out Stacey Abram and he had a gaffer. He said she built the greatest voter fraud machine of all time. Oh, my God.

Are you serious? No, I didn't see that. I was just being that turnout, but this is going to be a fun four years because usually. Yeah, this is, like Chris Barry says, any love for Creed Bailey? who literally lost a toe and a half and half a leg keeping El Chitolini in the White House. We talked about him earlier. It was a daily dumbass honorable mention. I guess you came out a little bit late there, but that's all right.

Yes, we talked about Creed and his mishap. I have empathy for him. I do have empathy. I do have sympathy for him. I don't have empathy. Whichever that goes. But when you read his GoFundMe, it tells all his friends who are contributing. Willie Trump hasn't contributed

as far as you can tell for people contributing to his go fund media to try to help him take care of his family after losing his foot and his toe and he's telling people to donate to not talk about Creed's condition with the fake news media so that's all my fucking pity

all my all my right that yes I did not know that until you just said it but I was going to say the same thing like if he if he after all of that if he's still like you know, hardcore pro-Trump or whatever,

then I have zero sympathy for him whatsoever, you know. Michelle Miller says, Melania says, fuck the decorations. And I actually agree. Yeah, I mean, I don't give a fuck about what's going on with the Christmas stuff.

I'm just wondering if she was, you know, put herself through it or not. It is funny to me that for the first year or two, she did what she thought was a good job decorating the White House for Christmas. And then the pictures of it would go out and people would roast her for her. like vaguely fascist

Polar Express aesthetic. And then so she just felt so bad about, she tried real hard and couldn't make it good and everyone made fun of her. So she's like, fuck this, I don't want to do it. Yeah. Yeah. Nobody appreciates Malanya.

Or Malania. She'll be all right. J.R. Collins says, dig the microphone. Maybe you could do the entire show with a Russian accent. I think that would get old very quickly. But who knows? maybe i yeah mark mark would not enjoy many people many people would not enjoy it but perhaps the little part of it and just just because yes he's been doing his zoom improv classes and i don't

him testing up no i've been talking in funny voices since people even knew what zoom or improv was mark god damn it all right all right listen thank you guys very much for joining us we'll be back in 48 hours on thursday's edition of evening skews and it's going to be a good time i hope your hair. Thank y'all. Say you love you. Bye. Yeah. Matt. Matt, what I have, but we're... By his family feast. Why has everybody suddenly family with

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Prices may vary additional terms apply. Well, hello there, everybody. Thank you for joining us. Today is Thursday, December 17th. I'm Trey Crowder. That's Mark Aegee. What's up, Mark? What's up, Trey?

Happy Thursday, bud. Happy early Christmas. Yeah, absolutely. You got all your shopping done. You ready? You got everything lined up for all the important people in your life, Mark. Yeah, I mean, we got mailed some toys to the East Coast for my nieces and nephews. And got my mama.

a tray to drink wine in a bathtub. Yes. Send me the link to that. My mom will probably end of that too. I dig that. Yeah. Kate, I just almost didn't want to say this because I was like,

oh, I can't let the secret out or whatever, but like my sons are eight and nine. They're not, they're not on Facebook. They're not going to be watching anything or whatever. So we have this like, you know,

sort of white trash above ground pool out here or whatever, but it's obviously cold as, right now. So one of the presents for the boys is a warm pool, which actually means buying a, you know, heater, a heater for the pool, which Katie did. And she needed some PVC pipes for the installation. And she went to pick that up today at Lowe's while I was here with the boys. And she sent me a picture. She takes a lot of pride in like doing that type of shit. Meaning like somebody asked her, do you need help getting this in the car, ma'am? She's going to be like, no, right? She, you know, I'll take care of it. She, these,

big long-ass PVC pipes. She put them in the back of the Jeep and got them to fit. She got them to fit all the way up through there. And then she went back in the driver seat and sat down. And the windshield was not shattered, but broken. Yeah, she shoved them into the glass so hard that it. Got a little spider web action on the right side of the windshield there. And then also opened the box with the actual heat pump in it.

And it came dented badly. Like it arrived from the, so yeah, we're off to a great rollicking start over here. Very 2020, the shit that's going on with the Christmas shopping so far. Y'all's dynamic when she does something like that. Are you ever bring it up again or you just have to like take it? Yeah, no, I'm probably not. I mean, I told her like, you know, not to worry about it. I mean, I'm pretty nice about that type of thing because I break shit a lot and fuck shit up a lot.

And of course, she always goes in on me. but still, you know, I like to be the, I like to be the bigger person, Mark. No, I'm just, you know, I just sympathize with her when she like that happened. So, I mean, yeah, I tried to calm her down, let her know everything was okay. But anyway, yeah, and about a week out

and Christmas is just already going great over here, but I'm sure it'll be fun. So let's do this show, what you think? With us, as always, we got producer Matt Hildreth behind the scenes doing the things, and this is evening skews. Tonight, we get into all things COVID relief, both the actual vaccines that are currently rolling out

and also the supposed congressional relief package that may come at some point. Who knows? I mean, I feel like I speak for a lot of us when I say, at this point, I'll believe it when I see it. But we get the latest on that. Also, Joe Biden has made an historic appointment in selecting his cabinet secretaries.

We'll talk about all that and more later on evening skews, but first of all, as always, we begin with the Daily Dumbass. Matt, graphic. Tonight's Daily Dumbass is former Houston police captain Mark Aguirre, whose name I'm sure I just butchered, but I'm not too inclined to feel bad about it as he, it has just come out, spent the time leading up to the most recent presidential election, trying to butcher the concept of American democracy. Why? Well, as typically is the case with their side of this particular issue. He did it for reasons that would be comically absurd if they weren't so disturbing at the same time.

I'm doing a bad job of explaining it, so I'll just let the news explain it for you. Matt, show what this guy did. Two weeks before the presidential election, prosecutors say Mark Anthony Agiré drove an air-conditioning repairman off the road and held him at gunpoint. The former Houston police captain suspected the repairman was the mastermind of a voter fraud conspiracy. Prosecutors allege Agirre and a team of investigators worked for a group called Liberty Center for God and Country. The group tracked the repairman for four days, suspecting the man was carrying 750,000 fraudulent ballots in his work truck. Police say, there's a were no ballots in the truck just air conditioning repair parts and tools oh man i can't believe

that all they found in that air conditioning repair man's work truck was just some bullshit air conditioning repair parts and tools man these guys they're they're more on top of it than mr gire expected them to be i guess okay first of all i know that sounds super crazy when you just hear that and of course it is, but there's like more details that highlights the lunacy, right, Mark? It gets worse. Oh, yeah, for sure. First of all, a couple things that were in that story.

They followed him for four days. This guy had had no idea. These guys were just following him around as he repaired air conditioners for four days and apparently never figured out that he wasn't up to anything. Also, if it's not, if it's real quick, if it's not clear to people just from listening to what we've shown so far, I said former Houston police captain.

He is, but I don't want people to think that that is because of this happening. He was already, yeah, he was already long since a former police captain. Like, that was way in the past when all this shit started, just so everybody knows. He got fired for apparently in 2003. There was some, Houston police had some big fuck up

where they arrested 270 people at a Kmart, somewhat tangentially related to street racing, and it involved a bunch of lawsuits. He lost his job in 2003 related. to that. And since then, has apparently been doing sag gigs like this where he got paid $211,000 by the place called the

Liberty Center for God and Country, which is such a these places, they always have his name for that. It's like the Freedom Headquarters for Jesus and Big Titty Blonde's or whatever. Right. Yes, it's like a, yeah, it's like a Trump or MADLib the way they name their organizations. I just picked

from a, I can say, yes, the Freedom Center for Eagles and heterosex. or whatever, like just unite that type of thing. For not abortion and the Lord. Yeah, that type of thing. So, you know, got almost a quarter of million dollars from just all around air air conditioner repairman

and invent schemes. So what they thought would have, they thought they thought this, this air conditioner repairman wasn't just like a guy driving ballots around. He was the mastermind of this scheme that involved, basically, they thought the guy had 750,000 fraudulent mail ballots and was using Hispanic children to sign the ballots because children's fingerprints would not appear in any databases, right?

He said Mark Zuckerberg had given $9.37 million for ballot harvesting, which is incredibly specifically made-up number, right? A made-up number. Like, we were talking about this, but like at some, someone in this chain of dumbasses, someone in it knows that they, they, literally just made all of that shit you just said up out of thin air the mexican kids with they got like a they got like a dip shit riders room that puts this stuff together or something it's like yeah the mexican kids they don't have fingerprints and also the guy driving the van is the

mastermind and all this stuff and there's 900,000 of like and it's all just completely made up but then becomes the truth for this little like shitty stephen sotterberg group you know like from Ocean's 11 movies or whatever, that, but for dumbasses, like, how, I mean, how, why? I just can't wrap my brain around how something like that happens. He basically also, like ex-cop traffic accident with somebody, if he'd known enough to keep his mouth shut about what was going on his head, he probably could have played it off, like, oh, this is a traffic dispute. I just wanted to make sure it didn't escalate. So I was holding him here until you got here and could deflate this.

he probably wouldn't be facing any jail time. But instead, what he did was he told the cop about this fantastic conspiracy he was trying to stop and tried to get the cop on his side about it. He told the cop that you can be either be a hero or part of the problem. I just hope you're a patriot. So he confessed. This guy's a former police captain who fell for the oldest chick in the book, which is cops saying they're your friend.

They're just trying to help, right? And so he confessed. Yeah, but I could see former police captains being even more inclined to believe that to be the truth. Do you know what I mean? Like, you know, thin blue line and all that shit, even though he's not in it anymore, I could see them being even more inclined to believe that the cop is there to help them. Yeah. He also, the guy, they, they, the news interviewed on camera, the dude, the old white, old white man who's in charge of that. What was it? The, again, the freedom center for God. and Eagles or whatever that finance this. Again, like you said, almost a quarter of a million dollars they paid this guy for this caper. Fucking what?

But they, the news interviewed the guy that runs that organization that paid for all this or whatever. And they asked him, do you believe that the Democrats have, you know, stolen the election in Texas or defrauded the election in Texas? He was like, absolutely. I know they have. like, y'all like, they won. They won Texas.

I don't what I'm saying. You like, you won Texas. What are you, how is that even supposed to work? You think, like, if you can prove all the HVAC conspiracies here, that that means that in the other states that the Democrats actually won, you know, you'll get some kind of like trickle-down justice or something. Like, you all won Texas. What is this, what are they even talking about? And also it was obviously the Texas Attorney General who filed that big lawsuit about trying to overturn the results in key states.

I don't, Texas, Texas Republicans are just super fired up about an election that, you know, they covered on the home front. Yeah. And this guy wasn't out, some winged out all alone. That Liberty Center place was the chairman, was led by the county Republican Party chairman, a big-time conservative activist in Houston named Stephen Hots was the group CEO. Aguirreys allegations have shown up in a lot of these voter fraud lawsuits. The Republicans in filings, they were using him as a source. So it's like a human set of p.

to snake union so bullshit. But I just, I know he set up a go-fund me, too, Aguirre did. He'd raised like half a million dollars before he got arrested. But it's still the tallest guy around from this. conditioner repair man around for more than half a week and all they saw him doing was repairing air conditioners and when they saw that and they thought this guy's good man this guy's good this guy's bro we got some honorable mentions for you i would like to talk about the dick tattoo personally because how often do we get to talk about dick tattoos on the show mark um

I mean, yes, that's true. We could. But representative elect Lauren Bobert, Bobert, Bobert, Bay Bear, Boehbert. Yeah. Yeah, I should know it would have been like the dumbest version of how it would be pronounced. Bobert. Her husband apparently has a dick tattoo. How do we know?

Well, he's got a fun thing he likes to do. Just a fun little game. He likes to play is where he shows his dick to minors at a bowling alley and not coal miners. like the other kind. Did I get that right, Mark? Yeah. He was a, well, apparently what he did was he told the teenagers he had a tattoo. He did that pick up on his bit, the cheesy one where he was like, I got, I got a dick with your name on, Ted, your name on it, literally.

He got a tattoo. So it's not clear where he actually has a dick on his tattoo. It's kind of beside the point because what he was doing was a very horny pervertity. I know what you meant. but you just said it's not clear if he actually had a dick on his tattoo, which I bet he's got one of those two. I got a separate tattoo somewhere with like the Grim Reaper with his dick out with a Confederate flag wrapped around his skull or something.

But yeah, no, I can't believe that the husband of the, you know, insane conspiracy theorist lady is not on the up and up exactly. Also, if you've seen a picture of the guy, he looks like what you would expect, the bowling alley dick tattoo guy. to look like in my opinion. Yeah. Yeah, she's a Q&9 lady, if you guys don't know. It's just like at least two of them in Congress now.

Fun. Yep. Let's see what else. This one's on our side, this honorable mention, but you know, we try to be equitable. Yeah. Yeah, we try to be fair. Yes, Joe Biden, the gaffs have not stopped since he was elected president. Of course, I have it.

Why? That's what he does. Man, he makes gaffes. like, you know, somewhat troubling, but mostly just, you know, sensible chuckle-inducing gaffes. That's at least how I interpret it. Joe Biden referred to Chaston boot. Budigit, Budigieg. Buttigieg.

Buttigieg. Y'all know I am. We're pronouncing stuff. But Chastin Buttig's bootage, Joe Biden referred to Chastin as Kristen. in a recent speech when he was talking about Pete's nomination to the cabinet. And of course, it's like this is just, you know, he had a problem with the teleprompter or whatever. He just, he was trying to say, it's not like there's nothing actually shitty going on here. It's just he just often his words don't be.

No. He wants his words to be. You know, that's all it is. You guys supposedly have a stuttering problem that comes every now and every now. This is more of a, the only thing that makes it funny is, you know, him being old out of touch man and Pete and chasing being gay, right? Yes, I mean, that's true. Yeah, you're right. The only thing that makes it funny is, frankly, looking at it through a bit of a homophobic lens.

Yes. So, but, you know, Twitter did that before us. We're just covering the news here. It was the thing people pointed out. No, I mean, wait, I mean, hold on. if there's xenophobia here, it's Joe doing it. Well, I know he wasn't doing it, but I'm saying I thought we were in agreement that it's like the only way to interpret it as. Uncharitably.

Yeah, right, is to interpret it that way because he used a girl's name, you know, basically. Yeah, like when Joe was growing up in the playground, you'd call somebody a Mary or Nancy, right? Right. But it is, I mean, it's like the other day, like his gaps, it's, it's, it's. It's weird how on point his gaps are. That's kind of proof that all the, the dementia stuff is pretty unfounded because his brain's still working because he's making these connections. They're just like making, they just come out wrong sometimes. Like the day when he announced Stacey Abrams as the world's leading voter fraud expert when he met organizing.

He just does that. Yeah, right. Yeah, doesn't realize how things sound sometimes. All right. Well, let's get into COVID stuff. What do you want to do first? Congress, what's the last on Congress, Mark? Are they actually going to do shit?

We've been talking about this for literally months. Now the government is on the verge of shutting down potentially because of it. What's the hold up here? They're closer than they have been to passing a new round of relief because basically they're giving it. Nancy Pelosi's going to come down to the number that the Republicans want, which is about a trillion. But they still won't give them a. few minor details that they want. So the government might shut down this weekend because they can't pass any sort of funding

bill. But they still want the employee liability shields, right, which is only a couple hundred lawsuits have been filed about COVID, but COVID's only around nine months. But who knows how bad employers would act if they had liability protections? But I don't know how to judge how big of a deal that would be or should be. But what they want to do now is they want to add in a clause that eliminates the federal reserves ability to do emergency lending. So basically they want to handicap the Biden administration before they take office.

So they won't be able to be responding to economic crisis to put us on the deep economic pain so they can take the house back and send it back in 2020. What is the, what is the, like, what's the rationale for the Democrat side to agree to something like that? Just the optics of like the most important thing is getting the deal done. And that's why we would acquiesce yet again to shit like this. Do you know what I'm asking? Yeah.

Why play ball with that specific type of type of shit? Because like you said, it's clearly aimed at hamstringing Biden's incoming administration before it even starts. Like you said. You could look at a couple different ways. You could say that like if they care about the constituents, they do have a gun to their head because people are going to start houses. Right, right. Yeah. So that's the so the Republicans have that over them.

If you want to, that's probably part of it. Part of it's also naivete because they're probably thinking if they're the same Democratic Party that's been around the last 20 years, they're thinking, well, we can give them this because when we need to, when the Fed needs lending, earns the lending authority again, they'll just pass it. We'll just pass a bill giving it to them because they'll need it. Republicans do the right thing. And I have a hypothetical future. Right. But obviously, they're in good faith. They're just worried about the deficits right now.

They want to make sure we keep control over the deficit. well one thing both sides have already agreed on a bailout of sorts for the super wealthy in this country which thank god for that because i've been so worried because like with unemployment being what it's been and the situation we're in right now it's like who's going to create the jobs you know moving forward like if we don't take care of our super billionaires with these relief packages i'm just worried that there won't be any new jobs for people because that's where they come from as those super rich people, right? So it's a good thing that they're taking care of them.

Please explain what I'm talking about. So they included a huge reauthorization of the payroll protection plan, which is fine. I mean, like, I think half of the money went to 1% of companies last time around. It's very poorly administered, but, you know, the other 50% went to other people. So it's managed to help some people.

But what this do, whether they're giving people the loans that these big pass-through companies like like big law firms. firms and be accounting firms. They'll give them the loans. Loans are forgivable. All that's not even the problem yet. The problem is they're also making the loans tax deductible. So you're going to give the person a loan. They're not going to have to repay it. Also, they can write it off of taxes like they did repay it. So that that's going to cost $120 billion. So just just wait way government's supposed to work. Yeah. Right. And again, it's also just

funny that like that that type of thing is already mutually agreed upon, you know, what I mean, where the other, what they're squabbling over is whether or not your employer can fuck you over the amount of money that an actual regular working person would receive. But, you know, I mean, this is the sort of how it goes. These are the big law firms they go to work for, you know, when they all leave office or, I mean, when you see these big, these big law election cases, these are the firms that both sides hire. So we're giving tax breaks to political allies who also give them jobs and save their ass when

they get in election trouble or, you know, to get arrested for their own tax fraud, which happens a lot. Yep. So also in COVID news, Moderna's vaccine has now been approved by the FDA. So we've got two vaccines shipping out right now. Obviously, that's a great thing overall, but there's been some bullshit about it. People debating, you know, the efficacy of them. there's been some weird shit going on with Pfizer's vaccine where it's been cut the numbers have

been cut or they've claimed they've been cut of the amount that they're giving out to certain states or something like that. Back up for just back up for a half a second. Moderna's vaccine has been endorsed by an FDA advisory panel. It says like one or two more steps before it gets full. It was good news. There'll be more vaccines. So yeah.

So logistically, states have been told to expect X a number of vaccines. But then today, they got various reports. They were informed that, like, Washington was told that they were going to get 40% less vaccine. Then they haven't told they were going to get. Illinois said shipments have been cut roughly in half. Florida, Ron DeSantis, basically shrugged and said all shipments were on hold. They don't know anything about when they're going to get more. but what's really funny about this is the government said that they had Pfizer hadn't come through with enough doses Pfizer says no we have millions of doses they're either sitting in a warehouse and we haven't been told where to send them or we don't know where they are so 40% to half all the vaccine doses are somewhere in transit and nobody like it's like it's like a you know when your package gets lost in the mail I guess right right so it's like a like an

infrastructure logistics problem is what is happening or jared kushner sold it to saudi arabia i don't know i mean for the normal operation you'd assume it's just like a paper like a miscommunication or a paperwork error or you know something you something got lost in translation or they over promised and under delivered here it's like fell off the back of the truck man who knows i don't know where i'll say uh before we move on in the next I wanted to shout out to Trace Home State Governor. Yeah. What's his name? Bill Lee.

Bill Lee. Which is just kind of Billy, but stretched out further. So Governor Billy, we got there. Oh, Governor Billy back home in Tennessee. Yes, Bill Lee. Go ahead, Mark. Let me tell you what this fucking coward did. He's the worst.

So their first, Tennessee's first shipment of vaccine was only like a thousand deaths, right? They're going to get more in a couple days. Instead of just picking. what hospital to and vaccinate first, you know, just pick one with about 1,000 employees and just go vaccinate him. He was afraid to piss anybody off. Like, so they're going to wait until there's more vaccine,

enough to go around to start vaccinating people. It's basically like if you don't have enough gum for the whole class, you can't chew gum is what he did. But when you're an elected official, like you weren't drafted as governor. You asked for the fucking job, right? And the job when you're governing is to decide who gets resources.

Sometimes it's arbitrary. But you wanted the job, your job is decided who lives and who dies who get health care and who doesn't do it motherfucker do your job yeah I mean honestly he's so shitty I'm surprised he didn't just decide to give it to like

like pharmaceutical lobbyist in the state or something like that like you know somebody at the highest level because that's how shitty he is to win the SEC yeah yeah well we aim let's please not get into that

so I want to ask you sort of not a philosophical question, but a broader question about this subject. Obviously, especially if you're from the South or just rural America at this point, Big Pharma, you know, pretty major villain in recent years and rightfully so with the opioid epidemic and all that. They've actually been made to pay for it literally, to some extent recently, Pfizer and $8 billion fines and whatnot with all of that. They've been demonized a lot and again, rightfully so. Fuck Big Pharma.

but I guess my question is there's an op-ed the New York Times about this, about how successful this would be on the PR front for Big Pharma these vaccines coming out. Like there's a hope, apparently, you know, behind the scenes within Big Pharma, that this will be this big PR coup, you know, that they'll have this heroic card that they can play and sort of get them back in everybody's good graces. And the op-ed and the Times was saying, you know, that should not happen. But I'm wondering if you think that that's even on the table to begin with.

Like, could you see it even swaying public opinion to that extent? Like, should it? How much should we, you know, bow down before our saviors at Big Pharma for these vaccines coming out? I mean, I don't think their popularity is going to improve as long as people are getting charged $99 and a while. Right. And plus, we don't know. The bill for the COVID vaccines haven't come due. And also they haven't been rolled out without like, I mean, I'm not worried about side effects,

but they're going to be stories about side effects. They're just all right. So I don't think they're out of the woods quite yet. But to me, like, the thing is like, the frustrating part about this is like this was a big private private partnership with a bunch of people collaborating in a huge emergency where the federal government just promised unlimited funds to get to get across the finish line and we're found with you making a big profit. Just don't gouge us, right?

And it worked. We could do that with any other problem in society. a Green New Deal. To me, this proves that when America wants to do something, we can do it. Absolutely. Just like with,

you know, and again, it's been so long now and they've failed to do another one that it kind of dampens the impact of it. But like with the first round of the stimulus checks

and whatnot that came out that went to everybody basically right now. And so the whole argument for like that type of thing is impossible. You know, it's ridiculous. Who would pay for it? how would that work?

But whenever it's like genuinely needed because of an emergency situation, it came together again, the first round, relatively quickly and kind of just proved that it is possible. And then they've fucked everything else up since then where that is concerned. But I agree with you. It just proves, it illustrates that this type of shit is possible within the confines of our bureaucracy in this country.

It's just that everything else gets in the way the rest of the time. We put a dude on the moon in 1960 and brought him back. We have like, we have military might is like we have resources. We can fly a group of tanks to the other side of the world and keep them gassed up. And troops bed. Like, we're endless. We can do whatever we want.

We just shoot. Yeah. We went from Kitty Hawk. And the Wright brothers, and I just looked up the actual number, but the Wright brothers in Kitty Hawk, North Carolina, the first, you know, flight, man, flight. We went from that to the fucking moon in 66 years, which is insane when you think about it.

And then just kind of stopped with the whole space thing. But yeah, right, when people are willing to put money and resources and effort at a large scale into worthwhile endeavors. Yeah, it's insane what we can accomplish. We just never are motivated to do so on the macro scale. To be we, I'll be clear, like Germany had a heavy hand and created this vaccine. I think it was two Turkish immigrants in Germany who had the idea for the rough draft of it. But America has, that's human ingenuity.

America has endless resources. You know, like we can supply the world fixing these parts. We really, we just, we could, we just, we just don't want to. Remember that? There's a famous Spider-Man cartoon, uh, uh, um, um, con book strip where he's fighting the, he's, one of his villains to terror, that scientists who turn himself into a terradactyl. And the guy goes, it's, but Spider-Man goes with this,

but with this technology, you could cure cancer. And the guy goes, but I don't want to cure cancer. I want to turn people in dinosaurs. And that's. And that's. Yeah. Ain't that just the way? All right, so we mentioned earlier some historic news as related to Joe Biden's still coming together.

Cabinet, he has tabbed Representative Deb Holland, H-A-A-L-A-N-D, Holland, to lead the Department of the Interior. This is important and historic because Holland will become the country's first indigenous cabinet secretary. She's a member of the Laguna Pueblo and New Mexico. and she will become our first Native American cabinet secretary. And the fact that it's the interior specifically is also very relevant and poignant because the interior is the agency that is the umbrella over everything related to Native American affairs and the tribes and their lands and reservations and all of that and just American lands in general and drilling and that type of thing.

obviously it seems extremely long overdue to have an indigenous person be in charge of that particular agency. So good on them for that. Yeah. I mean, there was a cabinet, this is pretty much the cabinet department in charge of breaking all the treaties with the natives. So it's just a long time coming. And it's also nice.

I mean, it's not nice that it's just the one, but she's a genuine leftist who, the only one in the cabinet so far. yeah which is nice i prefer uh yep um yeah i don't know what i'm did i cut you off what you're about to say something no no i'd it's it's i'm trying to come up with a parallel of whatever it'd be like it'd be like if a um black panther activist got put in charge the fbi i that's not really a good comp either it's just uh it's just you know it's just cool like we've been to this

department to like oversee native americans and then just right had white people doing that for favor but I mean again you know like when it obviously when it was you know know early in the goings-on that was very much by design you know white people were there to fuck them over so somebody in charge of the like acquisition of and distribution of small-box blankets you know somebody had to do though a dirty way yes exactly um all right so only tangentially related but it did also happen this week in the past couple of days I hope it doesn't seem insensitive or anything, but it has to, you know, in talking about Native American or indigenous affairs,

the Cleveland Indians have announced that Chief Wahoo will be no more, and they will change their name following the example of the Washington football team. Once again, long time coming, especially when you consider Chief Wahoo, right? Like that, that elev, he, he being Chief Wado, really kind of elevates the, um, uncomfortable nature of the Cleveland baseball team's mascot situation, don't you think? Yeah.

I mean, if they, if they had, these guys hang on for too long and won't relent and they end up getting the worst case scenario for themselves. Like, if they had just, if they had just redrawn the logo, which you can quietly say it's for any reason in the world. You don't have to say it's for social justice reasons. You just, you, teams do logo redesigns all the things. time. You could have just drawn a different logo and probably kept the name Indians and everybody had been fine with it. Okay. I mean, I don't know, I don't know everybody even fine with it's

not right, but the logo is definitely the worst part. Right. Because I mean, I feel like anybody watching us doesn't need to have this illustrated, but still, you know, it's one of those things we're like, if you, if you, you know, Chief Wah, I can, I, Chief Wah who's always been the mascot, right? And he's just, they just is the mascot. The logo just looks like the way it looks, you know, so you just learn not to think about stuff like that or take it for granted or whatnot. But when you really sit back and look at like what the parallel to that would be, then it illustrates how absurd it is. We've got a couple of at least one or two graphics, right, Matt?

We throw up there of if they were the Cleveland crackers. Look at that. See? Yeah. Although, you know, honestly, I feel like there's plenty of crackers who'd be totally down with that. Just because of the dollar signs around it, you know what I mean? I mean, that doesn't hurt my feelings at all. Because I don't own a bowtide and I don't have any money.

So I don't think that's perfect. Yeah, but I've seen other ones out there where it's like, just to illustrate the point, people made equivalent Chief Wahoo graphics for like the New York Jews, you know, and it's like a caricature of a Jew like the Nazis would have drawn on propaganda posters in the 40s, or San Francisco Chinaman. And it's, again, well, World War II propaganda, except just for Asia. back in the day and it looks like that and there really is little to no difference there's no really defending the absurdity of that cartoonish logo but uh that's not to say that people haven't

done it mark people have defended it uh extensively there was a video went viral a couple seasons ago at the beginning of year where a bunch of fucking fat white cleveland idiots went down to a baseball game and we're just yelling racial slurs and whatnot at some native protesters over the subject of the name. So obviously people care.

They could have got like it's like one of those things. I could have gotten away with it if it hadn't been for you know in a horror movie when somebody's hiding and they're going to go away from the bad guy or the monster or whatever but then baby starts crying. This is like they could have gotten away with this right. They could have been like it's you know we don't mean disrespect. It's not racist.

just but then the fans show up with the face is painted red in headdress right yeah it's like you well you you're giving away the game here man i mean it's just we just they did i think the connection between this the kind of pick is like we just treat i mean there's not enough of them around to make much noise anymore because we've been so shitty to them yeah you know it's like it's it's sort of like yeah i don't know yeah no no i mean yes it's it's yeah, it's extremely fucked up, but true. Chris Rock had a line about that

and I think it's bigger and blacker and he's talking about which people are the most racist or whatever, or which peoples have had it the worst in this country or whatnot. And he says something like, and ain't nobody had it worse than Indians, but, you know,

we never hear Indians talking about it because they're all dead. He's like, they don't even have got enough to fill out a parade in New York because they put a feather on a Puerto Rican's head and be like, that ain't,

that's not polka. Kahana says Jennifer Lopez or something like that. I'm quoting Chris Rock here. But anyway, yes, no, I mean, it's... I mean, outside of Oklahoma and certain parts of Arizona, you'll rarely see two natives in the same room. Yeah, so I want to get on the subject of this, there's a native organization,

a nonprofit organization dedicated to fighting stereotypical native representations in sports called Not Your Mascots. So you guys can check that out, not your mascots on Twitter, doing fighting a good fight there. What were you about to say? I was going to say something Matt taught us before he came on. I didn't know is that

there's a movement of Native kids have sort of reclaimed the word Indian for themselves, but they call it but they spell it N-D-N. Yeah, I didn't. Right, I didn't know that either. Yeah, because I've wanted, like, I want to, you know, I want to call people

what they want to be called and not be a dickhead just generally speaking. Easiest thing to do in the world. Right. But, but, But, like, and so I feel like I've read and heard conflicting things about the word Indian, you know. I mean, I've, like, Indian versus Native American or because another thing, producer Matt, because producer Matt, I was from South Dakota. He's a white guy from South Dakota, but, you know, he's grown up in areas with large Indian or indigenous populations.

And he pointed out, another thing hadn't really thought about is, like, even when you say Native American, that's that's also defining them by the sort of colonial context of you know America and the like they were here before America was called America by anybody right so even that is a little weird and apparently the best thing to do if you know the tribe refer to the tribe by the tribe but if you're speaking generally again I guess it kind of you know it kind of depends but I like the Indian, the letters N-D-N, but pronounced Indian, yeah, that's for me. Glad they landed on that.

It's amazing, like, these are fights at all. I mean, like, literally, we're having these disputes that people get really heated over and get a lot of feelings because, you know, in 1692, one kind of stupid Italian dude didn't know how to read a map upside, the right side up, right? Yes. Christopher Columbus died thinking he'd found India. and because of that

right but uh Louis CK has that joke and one of his specials about how like we we being white people have known that they were not Indians like from the subcontinent of India

we've known that for a really lot like you know since not that long after we even found them we knew oh that's actually not where we thought it was so that would not be the appra, and just kept calling them that the whole time. The way Louis puts it's like, you got there, it's like, oh, you guys are Indians.

Like, no, we're not. We're not. We're not. We're not, Indians. Like, ah, you're Indians. And they just called them that for a bunch of years. That's not even, because like, only Christopher Columbus thought he found India. Right.

Everyone else called it the new world because he knew it was a different place. So it's just one dude even. It's just because one guy thought that. He convinced us to call them all Indians. yeah well once we decide to call people something we kind of like to roll with that mark us white people we don't like to have to call them something else other than what we wanted to call them it's kind of a whole thing with our people i don't know people fully grab like the house christopher columbus did not people didn't think the world was flat in 1682 people sailors

sailors literally watch stuff going up over the horizon for a living people knew the earth was route christopher lumbus thought it was small he thought it would be a short trip he almost got his men killed. When he finally accidentally bumped into to Hispaniola or whatever, he's a mineral on the verge of killing him. But he found a place and just decided this place I found

as India, everyone else knew it wasn't true. It's just like, it's just, I can't, we fight about honoring this guy who just absolutely sucks and we're still, we just pick, we pick a new word, call him whatever they want to be called. Yeah, that's like in Columbus Day, you know, which I got, you know, it's not like really, it's not like Columbus Day

is a huge deal for anybody on either side of the debate. But the fact it is a federal holiday, because I just work for the federal government, we got off work that day, is just absurd. And also it's one of those things. And Matt has put over here that a couple other states, including South Dakota, which was the first to do it, they celebrate Native American Day on Columbus Day. But like, that's a thing. Who, who is fighting tooth and nail to keep Columbus Day as Columbus Day? Do you know what I mean? I mean, sure, I'm sure, obviously somebody out there is doing it. But, like, who really good? gives a fuck about Christopher Columbus anymore.

Like, we can just, we can just get rid of that if we want to, Mark. He can go. It's fine. Who cares? Yeah, I mean, do want to dig their heels in. I mean, outside of Sylve from the Sopranos, he got real mad about Columbus Day. Right. I understand it's a point of pride for some people, but it's like, there are other Italian

heroes. We got, you know, they got boxers. Boxers, chef boy, R.D. That's another one. Mario Mario Huge hero in the Italian Rudy Giuliani Yes Rudy Giuliani

Mario chef boy R.D. You guys have plenty of What did we talk Was it on the show that we were talking about About out you right now if it wasn't on the show You're talking about how fun it is to make fun of Italians In your opinion like Italians are one of the funniest Italians are one of the funniest groups to make fun of

Because you still had to do it And they're emotional. Because there's no like, there's no like, I mean, I know that Italians are persecuted against in Iraq in the United States, but there's like, there's no like, there's no organized history of like, like, you know, genocide or slavery or whatever. So it's like one group you can get away with a little bit of roasted,

yeah. Yeah, no, for sure. But I got to say, I just, I love what they've done with, uh, noodles and stuff. Like I'm a, I shout out Italians, you know, they're some of their, some of the hittinist. Fatting is to be done. only because of Italians.

He contributed a whole lot to the fatten game. I for one to appreciate it. The patient, impressive. Amazing. Oh, yeah, there you go. Italians have done a lot of awesome stuff, y'all. Of course you have. That's the point.

You have lots of like untainted good stuff. You don't have to like defend a genocidal rapist who was also bad at his job. He wasn't a good explorer. He didn't discover anything. At least not what he thought he did. So I want to go, Matt, you can start. throwing up comments up there whenever you want to. I wanted to ask another kind of broader question

that we've sort of touched on before in recent weeks, but like, think about Georgia and what's going on in Georgia and everything and how that's going to turn out and we'll know more about what I'm about to ask when that actually, after the runoffs actually happened. But Trump, like we were talking about recently, he got a huge amount of votes,

he got more votes than he did before. But he also lost by, you know, a solid amount and the thing that Van Jones cried about, the repudiation he wanted to see and that I wanted to see that we didn't see, right? And I've been telling myself that Trump was like our rock bottom as a country, you know, and then we would, that's what we needed to snap out of it and come back. That's what I was saying throughout his entire tenure that I hoped happened. Well, I'm just wondering how, like, how much,

how much of a force is Trump, not even just Donald Trump himself, but like Trump ism and what he represents. Is it going to continue to be this like major force in American politics? Or like with the general election and now with Georgia come, like if they lose this one too, if they take a couple more else, do you think they'll like take the hint and go on somewhere and sort of recalibrate? Or are we stuck with this for a long time? The new class of people that got elected,

Trumpism isn't a political philosophy. much as it's an attitude. It's just saying, fuck you to everybody and everything all the time. Yes, right. And that resonates with a lot of people,

and it got a lot of people elected to Congress this time. Like, you got Madison Calforn, the, Corey's Clark, Marjorie Taylor Green, and the Lauren Bolbert lady we just talked about.

The house always has crazy bomb throws. So maybe not, but they're so safely gerrymandered, as long as that attitudinal thing is like super powerful in their primaries, If it gets them through the primary, they're going to win the general. How far that carries them up the ladder? I don't know.

I hope not far. I hope they're still trapped in the house for their whole career. But the thing about Trump's – Trump is 40 years of TV experience. He's good at the medium. He knows what works. And the rest of these guys are clumsy and they don't have that expertise. If, like, Pat Sajjak were to run – and he's a lot. he's a Trump huge Trump supporter if he what I didn't know that well god damn he's very right

wing I don't know if he used to tweet anyway it doesn't matter but like if one of those guys you know with two who's good on TV who can look you in the eye looks down and stare at the barrel of a camera and say something he does not believe at all that he knows not to be true but he knows it's bad and damaging just to win elections like trump can because if trump doesn't have that as a superpower And not everybody can do that. Like most humans have shame and empathy. Well, it's funny because I feel like you hear the opposite of what you just said get posited a lot, which is like, y'all just wait until the competent version of Donald Trump shows up, right?

Like the next Donald Trump is going to be him, but, you know, smart. But I hear what you're saying. I think it makes sense. That discounts the other side of what made him so popular to people, all that shit. just talked about. That's sort of like, I mean, he had his own certain type of competency that was very effective that I feel like is going to be pretty hard to emulate for most people, especially politicians, because most of them are very dry and boring and dull and everything. And I don't know. But here's the thing, like, he governs pretty, except for being so in need

of praise and people kissing his ass that he appointed a tremendously incompetent cabinet, except for that he governed as a standard Republican. And like, uh, uh, Adamar Cornblute says, smart Mark. Over under on Trump pardons.

Uh, a million. I wouldn't put it past him to do something like, um, I mean, it'd be cool if you just blanket pardoned everyone and, uh, who has a federal rug conviction.

That'd be cool. Um, that would be cool. Yeah. It's like, uh, was it, Was it Jimmy Carter that did that?

The draft Dodgers, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It'd be a cool troll move. Like, I'll think I'm racist because in his head, everyone in prison is black. So he'd be like, you think I'm racist? I'll pardon everybody. You know?

Yeah, I don't know. I just, what we were talking about with Allison on Tuesday, this idea of him pardoning himself or whatever or attempting to. I'm still on the lookout for that. That and Joe Exotic. I still think Joe Exotic, my favorite. be getting a pardon coming down the road. It just seems like it just

would be appropriate if one of Trump's last things was pardoning that motherfucker. I feel like it would just fit. Joe fought a lot today. I didn't read the article, but it's like if he fought a lawsuit because he's not getting closer to getting pardon, he's best trying to sue himself into a pardon, which is really funny.

That's a bold strategy. Suing, the suing is president of all time. No, he's not suing him, but still, yeah. I mean, it kind of makes sense. sense from that perspective you know what i mean trump that's the language trump speaks is lawsuits so go for it joe shoot your shot man now let's see yeah beth mcginnis says yes pardon joe exotic all caps i can't tell if that's sincere or not but we're going like it is uh michel miller said saw your show saturday night loved it and love you guys can't wait for the next one thank you so

much michel yes we had a good time glad you liked it just actually since you brought it up I'm doing a separate show tomorrow night. It's not a well-read show. It's actually I'm very much an undercard on it. If you guys want to check it out, it's from a group called the Comedy Resistance, and it's meant to raise awareness and funds and whatnot for the Georgia runoffs.

And we got Sarah Silverman, Zach Galvanakis, Patton, Oswald, Sarah Cooper, and me, and Fortune Fiveser and Dulcee Sloan, my old friend. So, yeah, that's happening tomorrow night on Rush Tix, too, at 5 p.m. Pacific, if you guys want to check that out, should be Star Studded. I don't want to speak out of a turn here, but I believe you can, it's like it's a donation type thing, you know, because, again, it's just like raising money. So look into it. If you want to donate, you can, and everything goes towards our efforts in Georgia, our being the left.

So, yeah, tomorrow night, comedy resistance on Rush Tix. Check that out if you want to. let's see here Tara Kilgore says that's a stellar lineup you're right I don't know what the hell I'm doing there but I'm looking forward to it I appreciate them having me uh no I mean I do it's a liberal thing centered around the state of Georgia who else you're going to get Mark?

Me you talking about the South and progressivism or whatever I mean who you're going to call right usually some way are the people So I asked if many other people, someone said, apparently we're having some technical issues, getting the comments to show up on the screen, producer Matt just told us.

Somebody said, is that on here? So it's, God damn it. I got a thing. So apparently we have a listener by the name of a viewer watcher, someone from Skews Nation by the name of Josh Rogers who just moved back from Brussels. And he wanted to let us know that.

Remember we talked about that? a politician from Hungary who got caught at the COVID rule violating all dude orgy even though he's a very anti-gated. Oh, yeah, yeah, like crawling out the window naked or whatever. Yeah, yeah. Apparently, the people of Brussels have put a plaque up at the drain pipe, he climbed down naked, and they refer to him as the Hungarian. So shout out the people of Brussels.

Yeah. Yeah. Yes, this is a good point. here Chris Barry says I'm pretty sure Dan Crenshaw fancies himself the next guy to take up the Trumpian mantle the Navy SEAL credentials and the

eye patch will definitely work in his favor amongst the 45 cultists to trust and believe yeah that yes I'm sure you guys know who he is but yeah that if you haven't seen his like Georgia propaganda videos and his other

he's got a whole propaganda franchise the extended propaganda universe Dan Crenshaw. They are something else. He loves to jump out of planes. He lands like Iron Man style on the hood of some Antifa hippies van and blows the windshield up and shit. It is wild, man. They imply he just like randomly does a random command of, random commando assault and two Antifa people just sitting in a car. Yeah, yeah. It's very wild. But yeah, I mean, it doesn't look cool as shit when he dumped up the plane. I got to be honest. No, dude, it's honestly, like, Like, they are the dumbest things imaginable, but like, they're not poorly done.

I mean, they're not, which of course, you know, I mean, these people out here spending a quarter million dollars having ex-police captains chase down HVAC repairmen and vans or whatever. Like, if they could give that guy that amount of money for that, they've got the money to pour into these, like, fake-ass Avenger ads they're making. But I mean, yeah, you know, production value on them is not bad, I got to say. Yeah. No, he's a good, that's a good point. He's definitely a decent on TV. He can he does any, and he's very cynical operator. So he could, uh, he could, he, he can maybe do it. I don't know, but we never had an iPad's president before. We know, we know, we know you have to be, you have to be kind of tall, fairly virile usually. And have a full head of hair, which is why Joe got hair plugs. I don't know, I don't know if you got to have two eyes or not. That's untested yet. This, uh, all right, also I was trying to. So again, because some, some people were asking me about to Claire,

or whatever if they're um the comedy resistance okay if you just google that or go to the comedy resistance dot com you will see what i'm talking about the show tomorrow night which is a an internet show with all those comedians i named and me happening tomorrow on rush tics so just yeah look up the comedy resistance and you'll find it that's what you want to look into so i want to say about that guy y'all know i had eye surgery a while back i why I was wearing the sunglasses and whatnot. Prior to having the surgery and I may have to have a small follow-up procedure, that's neither here nor there.

We'll see how that goes. But if I didn't have that procedure and get that fixed, the only thing I could do to fix my issue, because I had double visions, why did I have that, is wearing an eye patch. Like, that's the only thing I could do. And there was a long period of time there where I was, like, really thought I was going to end up in an eye patch.

Like, for medical reasons, I was going to have to wear an eye patch for the rest of the rest of it. of my life. And it's like, you want to tell yourself that that could be cool, you know, like, oh, no, I could pull it off. That'd be cool. That's cool. Eye patches are fucking cool. And it's like this dude, in trying to be super, super cool with the eye patch just pushes me even further in the other direction. You know what I mean? Like, you can't ever, you can't, you can't pull off an eye patch, man, it just can't be done because of obviously pirates and now motherfuckers like Dan Crenshaw. That's why I'm.

mad at him hurting us potential eye patch Americans out here. I got a question for you, Trey. When do you think you will get your dose of the vaccine? I mean, I'll get it pretty much as soon as I can, but if you mean like when I think that will be available, I mean, not for months, but I hope it's like, I don't know, April or May or something like that. I took the New York Times, like where you live, where your health conditions are, age, stuff like that, see where you're in the pecking order.

And I will be roughly around the 280 millionth person in America to get the vaccine. Yeah. What is it? Like 380 million total people in the country or something like that? Something. So pretty. It's like we're doing an alphabetical order in my name's like Yippowitz or something. So what does that mean?

Okay. But what does that mean timeline wise? If you are the 280 millionth person to get the COVID vaccine, as of right now the way it looks, when will you get it? Did it cover that? So I will be around the 8 millionth person in LA County when we have like, what, 11 million people here or whatever it is.

So, but the, so they'll have done half a million doses by the end of December and then start, start getting a quarter million doses a week. So a million a month. So if I'm 8 million, say a third of the people don't want to get it because they're scared or the conspiracy theorists,

I figure out I would get it in like May, March. Right. Yeah. So, yeah, like I said, April, May, something like that. That's my like trying to be reasonable expectation is, you know, neither too optimistic nor too pessimistic.

I figure somewhere around Memorial Day probably. Yeah, who knows? But once again, we say it every episode now pretty much because typically it comes up. Get the goddamn vaccine if you can. If you can, get it as soon as possible. Please make it easier for everybody. Let's hope the Moderna ones out and the other one, the third one or whatever, once they're all approved,

be coming out the same rate. That'll triple the rate at what you gets done. And we're all, we're all vaccinated by March, April. I was hope. Yes, that would be wonderful. Because then I can get back out there on the road and come see y'all wherever you're at. You're in Idaho? I want to come to Idaho. Man, I miss Idaho. Boise, Fun town. Bing Crosby, big thing, and I, and Boise, Idaho, Mark, I don't know if you know that. But I'm ready to get back there, ready to do it. So everybody gets your goddamn vaccines. We can all have some fun. I'm not a super I'm not a super like I don't give a fuck about going to the club and never have I'm not a super like big groups of people guy but I mean I miss just humans I guess I miss going out like the NFL playoffs are about to start and I was thinking last year the Titans had their little run and me and you and some of our friends were watching all the playoff games at like sports bar every weekend like I wish we could do that again man I'm fucking I mean I mean I mean I mean. It's it.

So let's fucking knock this thing out, man. Ruby Laguna says Madonna ruined iPaches too. You're right, Rubie. Yes. But the ultimate takeaway is they have been well and truly ruined for a time in memorial. So out of the question for me, unfortunately. Madonna also ruined a bunch of couches, I imagine, and the lies of a bunch of 20-year-old

Latin men. Yeah. And briefly, Guy Ritchie's career. He got it back together, though. All right. Well, that's about it for this episode. We appreciate just so you all know. We will be here next Tuesday.

Of course we will. A week from tonight is Christmas Eve, and no, we're not going to do a show on Christmas Eve. I got kids. Y'all got kids. Y'all got families stuff to do. But we will be here next episode,

which is Tuesday, December 22nd. And, yeah, we're looking forward to it. We'll see y'all then. Have a good one. Yep. Say you love you, bye. Yeah.