wellRED podcast - Evening Skews - Week of November 10, 2020

Episode Date: November 16, 2020

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They're the. Burner, no, no, no, no. Yeah. Here we are. That's right. Welcome back, everybody. Today's Tuesday. November 10th.

I'm Trey Crowder. That's Mark Aegee. How you doing, Mark? What's up, Trey? What's that? Oh, nothing, just dealing with some more technical bullshit here in the Crowder household. That's why, you know, y'all think the first time you guys have seen the window unit air conditioner background, which I don't have a problem with. It's just not my ideal setup.

I come over here whenever everything goes to shit in the typical setup that I have, which is what happened today. But it's going to be all right. We're here. We're going to have a good time. Um, this is the evening news, everybody. Go ahead, Mark. I was a Matt, a producer once to say it said the wall unit AC is like it's the redneck version of

fireside chat. So yeah, no, I, I, I kind of like the, uh, the wall unit AC being behind it. Because, you know, trash is a big part of my brand, at least the way I see it. So I ain't trying to hide from it or nothing. And, you know, it gives a nice trash vibe.

I think we got Steve McNair over there, still throwing touchdown. in heaven and and yeah we got it we got we got a show to do and despite the bullshit that I've had going on at my house today is still gonna be a good one so as always well actually first let me tell you what we're gonna talk about tonight we're gonna talk about the latest on SCOTUS and Obamacare and the election and it being stolen and all of that and we're gonna spend a lot of time talking about Dems in disarray the current state of the Democratic Party

It's so funny, only this party, I think, like, could get, you know, a pretty major victory kind of in hand, and the headline is still how fractured it is and the proper way to move forward, you know? But that's just the way it is, and we're going to talk about it. You got AOC and the squad versus the old guard, and we're going to get into all of that. But first, as always, we begin with the daily dumbassery. Hit it, Matt. As has often been the case recently, we have a few different honorable mentions for you, people that, ones that were candidates for the Daily Dumbassery, but there can be only one. And for today, the official honoree for Daily Dumbass is everyone in this country who was worried

about a seamless transition from one administration to the next after the election. It's going to go fine. And if you don't believe me, here you have it straight. from the horse's mouth and in this case the horse is Secretary of State Mike Pompeo. Play that clip Matt. There will be a smooth transition

to a second Trump administration. Well, there you have it, Mark. Everything's going to be fine. It's going to go smooth. There's not going to be any bumps in the road, no obstacles, nothing like that. It's going to go just fine. Totally smooth transition into, as the Secretary of State has told us,

a second Trump administration. Okay, now, I don't like... Is he just troll and is he fucking? around here. I feel like you can never tell with these people. Was that him sort of like, is that tongue in cheek or is he lit? They got clipped out of context because the rest of it was like, you spend the rest of time talking about like how the official party lines. Like this isn't over until December 12th, the electors are seated.

We're still in it. But this is why we need a constitutional amendment for bidding politicians from telling jokes for penalty of death. because right yes yeah how the sad down shit is and like back when people said

Trump would be good for comedy I want to travel back in time to kick him in the dick because this is the worst time for comedy um uh yeah sorry

it's like like it's been the worst because like we want to be talking about clown decks and shit but here's this hair fucking state um

uh making wise cracks about a coup attempt while we have to serious and explain what's actually happening. The universe is on fire, and it doesn't make any sense. I want to be a clown again, Trey. I want to be a clown.

No, yeah, yeah, you're right. I think we've talked about this on the show before, but just as a brief aside, that whole idea that Trump has ushered in the golden age for stand-up comics and comedy in general and everything, because you know, how could he not? Lord, you got

material for days, you know what I mean? I've never been into that, and I'm still not because there's a lot of reasons like number one you know that the self parody aspect of it all like it's hard to make them funnier than they are in their

sincerity which is exactly what we're talking about with pompeo right here you know what I mean like you can't you can't even tell they're so ridiculous that everything seems like a joke when it comes from them and when everything seems like a joke how do you make jokes about it you know plus Lord God what has

been said about Donald Trump and his ilk at this point, right? So, yeah, no, we've, we've got some work to do. I don't want to talk about him no more, Trey. I want Donald Trump out of our collective brain space because, like, it's, I mean, for a narcissist to successfully make himself the protagonist of reality and be the conversation in every field, every day, you can't talk about sports without talking about him. You can't talk about, he weighs in, he weighs, he goes to rallies and rants about Oscar,

the Oscar nominations. Like, fuck off, man. Leave something along. I'm with you on that. Obviously, I think I was talking to my wife last night about how I think, and I'm not saying that I expect this to happen at all. Really, I expect the opposite. But I think the absolute best case scenario for all of those of us on the left would

be if he just actually fucked completely off for a while. Like we've, or forever, we've alluded to it on the show recently. He made all these jokes on the campaign trail about, uh, you know, if I lose, y'all will never see me again. If I lose, my children will never see me again about just disappearing into the ether. And I don't believe he actually will, but that would 100% be the best case scenario to have actually happen, as if he just went the fuck away, right? Because otherwise, it's going to keep being what you just said.

Like, we're going to have to keep talking about it. It's going to continue to be a whole thing. And everybody is tired of it, you know. but while he still exist and does his thing, you almost can't talk about him. So what else he's supposed to do?

I was laughing because I just had this mental image that when he just steals a bunch of gold out of the National Treasury right in a briefcase. And then when Air Force One is flying him home to Florida or wherever he wants to go after the inauguration, he jumps out of the plane, disappears like D.B. Cooper. that'd be a it's kind of what that happened i would i for one would know that he was dead because he ain't got the he couldn't pull that off that's not a that's not a simple move mark just diving out of

an airplane db cooper he had some training i think nobody knows that well but that's the thing it's like all but it's complicated though because even that dude can you imagine and i'm not neither one of us expects that to happen but like can you imagine if he did just like actually disappear right now like if for and that was it like can you imagine the Q anon dog and the way they've all become conspiracy theories and that it would be so bad or if he died right now I don't want that either because look he'd turn into a martyr a wall martyr that's what he would turn into if he died right now and that ain't that ain't that there's like there is no

there is no like objectively desirable outcome where Trump is concerned for us other than him just being completely healthy and all of that but

just saying fuck it and living on the golf course for the next five years or whatever I'm gonna call it right now he's going to do a big rally the day of the inauguration yeah and call it his counter inauguration.

Right. And announces Canada seat for 2024. And completely fuck over all the people that spent four years kissing his ass and they could run in 2024 like Marco Rubio

and Tom Cotton and Ted Cruz. And that part's going to be funny. It's going to be bad for a country because if I know anything about a media environment, they're going to cover his rally on January 20th and televise him and keep televising him.

So we're stuck in this hell because I don't really care if he goes around doing a rally as of course COVID. And also, and all, you, everyone will continue talking about it. Like, you'll have to continue talking about it. Yeah. You were saying earlier, you know, and I just would like to stop. I wish he would just disappear, but not literally, because I don't want to have another bone to QAnon or Q or whatever.

Yeah, I mean, it's, it must be people joke about him dying or whatever. He would be a martyr and be conspiracy theories like the rest of his distance. The rest of our life. Exactly. that it yes exactly JFK and I'm I'm not I have no desire to get into all the JFK conspiracy theories and all that

that was never my bag particularly but that that has sustained cultural relevance for what 50 plus years now going on 60 years what actually happened to JFK and all that if that happens to Donald Trump

if any version of that happens to Donald Trump he'll never go away. And I can't even stomach the idea of that. So yeah, I don't want that either. I wish he would just say fuck it and give up on his own accord. Got a sweet life. Just go enjoy it. Somebody made his point, but like, like, it's funny because we retroactively assign

importance to events and then create conspiracy theories around it. Because, like, other presidents were shot and didn't die, and there were no conspiracy theories around them. Like, Reagan got shot, Reagan got shot too. Nobody thinks the CIA was behind it, right? It's just because he didn't die. Nothing changed, everything was fine. And anyway, Q hasn't posted since the election,

and Q and now people are going fucking nuts. One lady killed herself because Q hasn't posted. You see that? She shot herself. Okay. I feel like maybe there were some other things going on there, but I don't know. Well, there's other things going on all of them. Yeah, yes, right.

Yeah, of course. Of course it is. So actually, you know what, since you've gotten into Q and on, I want to go into one of our honorable mentions for Daily Dumbass today. But before we do that, before we get off of the Trump family, the first honorable mention is Trump's son Eric, who remains hopeful despite recent events. Illogically hopeful, in fact.

Matt, you throw that screen grab up there, what Eric Trump tweeted. Look at that. It was from this morning, one week after, the election, Eric Trump, Minnesota, get out and vote. 835 on November 10th, one week after the election, clearly what happened here is he had scheduled a bunch of different get out and vote tweets aimed at different states and whatnot. And this one somehow, he booked a week later than he meant to, which is just like, frankly, I mean, dude, you know, hell that could happen to anybody, but it's hilarious that it happened to this person, in particular.

particular in this context. No, it's not, it's not an individual stupid mistake by the Trump family. No, I know.

So speaking of it being like, it's just so perfect that that particular thing happened to that particular person in this way. Let's talk a minute about the way

Saturday unfolded for Trump and America, right? So Saturday is more... Yes, all of that. Golfing, golfing, all of that.

So Saturday is when it officially got called finally, but most of the major news networks, AP, CNN, anyone who's actually like credible. It got called for Biden on Saturday. And in the midst of that, A, Trump was apparently golfing when it happened, which is just chef's kiss. But an even larger chef's kiss was that they had a press conference planned and scheduled for Saturday. before it got called, they had already scheduled the press conference for Saturday at the four seasons in Philadelphia, Philadelphia, hot, you know, a hot center for the election at the time, and the votes coming in is where a lot of the action was,

state of Pennsylvania. So they were going to have a press conference at the four seasons in Philadelphia, but not the four seasons hotel chain. I can understand why anyone would think that. No, this was the president's seasons. Yeah. This was the four seasons. landscaping company

Four Seasons Total Landscaping located in a strip mall in lesser Philadelphia between a dildo store and a fucking, what was the other one Mark? Crematorium. Crematorium. It's just like, you can't I put out a video a day where I made

the joke where I was like, God damn, I don't know, maybe there is a god and he just also hates Trump. But like, you can't that's so that's just so perfect. Everything about that is so incredibly

perfect that it's hard not to believe that it was scripted whether it's God or we're in a simulation or some shit is going on because that is incredible. The fucking four seasons lawnmower

store between the Dildo Emporium and like you know we burn Trump supporters hair shop or whatever like it's just Yeah, that's not a good backdrop for a presidential press. Got very serious presidential press conference about the elections being stolen. And that just got funnier today, by the way.

We'll come back to that a second. But they finished what happened today. So it appears like they always tended to have it there, right? Because for two reasons. Wait, really? Yeah. I haven't heard of it. Okay.

Yeah. So there are two reasons why. But they miscommunicated to Trump. So he assumed it with a fancy, nice hotel. But of course, that's what he would assume. But two reasons to have it there is one, they couldn't have it in a busy section of town because they kept having trying to have press conferences, and they got shouted down by people dancing around them and calling them stupid.

So they didn't want to be embarrassed. So they picked a remote section of town. And they picked that particular area because it's like the furthest most exit off I-95 in Philly. So Giuliani could get in and back to New York. an hour and a half. So that, but they asked the total, the total law, they did, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, they had up there. He was like, ah.

That was like, that's like, there's no, like, there was invited. It, I, look, you are always on top of this shit. And I trust you. But that is so hard for me to believe that they actually did intend that the whole time. They did, did they not, but first of all, the fact that it shared. is a name with a large hotel chain. Did they not vet the neighboring businesses where they were doing it? Like, there's just so many things that make that seem like bulls. It seems so, you know, Occam's Razor, right? It just seems so much more likely that they tried to book the four seasons and ended up at the lawnmower store or whatever, which has the same name.

It's the perfect Trump thing because no matter which way, it was, it was stupid. No, you're right. I mean, if that is true, if that's 100% true, that's actually what happened. That's no less hilarious. I mean, it's arguably more hilarious, really. It's just, it's just that, it's just that's hard to believe, man. They made themselves like, I mean, it's, if it's not stupid, it's lazy because they made themselves look like idiots to save Giuliani an extra 45 minutes in a car. But, but anyway, that got even stupid or more funny today because the purpose of press conference was to have a guy who works to the postal service say that he saw a bunch of

people illegally backdating later arriving ballot oh yeah right over the edge yeah the day when it was coming to getting close to the point where he was having to go under oath and say that shit he officially recanted but between then and now he made $130,000 on a go fund me so I can't stop smiling lightly man I don't know what it is just I do know what it is I know what it is I know exactly where it is, but it's like everything about it. It's just, it's so perfect. So much of it is so perfect, including I want to get to, this is the longest we've ever spent in the Daily Dumbass section,

but that's not really a surprise, in my opinion. But I want to get into the last honorable mention we have for Daily Dumbass, which is all the people who are fleeing, from Facebook and Twitter right now for the meaner pastures of parlor where they can really speak their mind without being censored by snowflakes on the left who just want a safe space for themselves no that ain't going to happen anymore not at not at this safe for them space it's not a safe space It's not a safe space. That would be gay.

It's a space where they are safe to say what they want, but not like in the way that liberals like safe spaces, because that's communist. But that's what they've done. Here's how I found out about it. The way I found out about it was I woke up, my sister's couple times zones ahead of me. I woke up a couple days ago in the morning,

and I had some texts from my little sister. who had taken some screenshots showing me that my ex-girlfriend from back in the day, who my sister never got along with at all, that she was joining Parlor and recruiting other people on Facebook to join Parlor. And I didn't, I hadn't heard about it all yet. I didn't know what that meant. So she sent me that and I was like, okay, what is that about? And I Googled Parlor.

If you Google Parlor and the Wikipedia page, the first thing that comes up, I'm going to read it to you verbatim right now, because keep in mind, this was my introduction to what this even is. Parlor is a United States micro-blogging and social networking service launched in August 2018. Parlor has a significant user base of Trump supporters, conservatives, and Saudi nationalist. And it just, again, it's just all so perfect. It's just a chef's kiss existence we have lived in for the past few days because that's just, it's so funny. Between that and them making a safe space for themselves to get away from our safe space or whatever the hell, and you can't even really properly verbalize the level of irony involved with this whole parlor thing. But again, as I've said a million times, they are immune to irony.

so it checks out, but Lord, it's funny. I mean, it kind of gives the game away when you, what are those three groups have in common? The Trump supporters and Saudi Nationalists, I'll tell you what they have in common. It's not a fondness for the star of David, right? So that's pretty much why they went there. Around that time in 2018,

when Twitter started cracking down on the out and out, like the people that would send like a Holocaust propaganda cartoons, at me got all got bad, me and you got banned. They always thought I was Jewish for some reason. I guess they think Agee is a Jewish name. I don't know. But people, I've been accused of being Jewish many, many times

as well on the internet and otherwise people. Yeah. People thought I was some sort of like covert operative who was engaged to like spread liberal propaganda in the rural South or whatever. And for some reason that meant I was a Jew.

Like Jew was just thrown into that. You know, this guy's a liberal New York Jew who was hired to, you know, do what I already said. But yeah. Yeah. I mean, I'm going to be doing this shit anyway. So if Mossad wants to cut me a check, I'll take it. Sure. But to be, it's hard to be serious about something that's ridiculous, in my opinion.

But we talked about this on the well-read podcast this week. And Drew pointed out, and I mean, he's right. He was like, we were all laughing about it. me and Corey, and we had Brent Turhune on this week, and we were all at, so check that out tomorrow. It was a good episode. Love Brent. That's great.

Yeah, Brent's awesome. But we were all joking, laughing about parlor, much like you and I just did. But Drew said, he was like, look, it is funny. It is ridiculous. But also, it's just going to further that whole, you know, bubble existence that they have, where they just throw different versions of the same. illogical, non-factual, bigoted bullshit back at each other and just stir each other up further in a way that nobody needs, right?

Like, the problem has been Facebook and Twitter, according to a lot of people, when it comes to them living in a bubble and thinking things are true that aren't true. And nothing is going to solve that about giving them an even more racist version of the existing social media platforms. Well... That was Drew's tale. And I'm just wondering how you feel about that. Well, it's

One, I mean, like, we'll come back to the user base is doing, but as far as the actual website, I don't think it's going to last long because one, social media sites rely on advertising. Now, what kind of advertising is Parlor going to get while they're posting all these, like, Holocaust never happened. Real quick, my wife has her own conspiracy theory going right now where Parlor is concerned. My wife, Katie, is from Wayne County, Tennessee. eat up with this exact type of person we're talking about.

So so many people she went to high school with this stuff have been joining Parlor this week and been posting about going to Parlor following me on Parlor. And she showed me a collection of screenshots last night. And she said, she was like, I'm not, she was like, I know this is anecdotal. I know that this is just, you know,

a small sample size that I've seen. But look at this. And she showed me a screenshot of all these people from her hometown who were first, talking about join parlor follow me on parlor and then two days later the same people were independently of each other posting has anybody else been getting a lot of robocalls today like i've got i've gotten like 30 robocalls today and i was just wondering if that's happening to

anybody else in the comments some of the other parlor people are like me too what is going on and you know it's obvious what katie's theory is and Lord, I hope she's right. In my experience, she's literally always right. But I mean, as far as you guys are concerned, too, I hope she's right. And it's because of what you were just saying, there's got to be something in it for them. Yeah, that's not a conspiracy theory. That sounds like a straightforward way to monetize the platform.

Right. And that, again, that's so, that's so great. But another problem the users haven't figured out anything. So all these people are mad at social media companies because they, this is they love to focus on obscure laws like sovereign citizen acts and shit and weird clauses they think they figured out like they've hacked the reality and they can like now they control everything but so they're obsessed with section two 30 of the communications decency act now i don't have a understanding of it i can give you the broad strokes about i think it works but it's basically the reason the internet the way it is and my facebook and twitter and instagram and parlor can exist is because if you're a platform you are free to moderate your platform as much as little as you want via your own terms of service and you're not legally accountable for what people write on it, right? Right. But the problem is,

do file a bunch of lawsuits at Twitter and Facebook, and you do have to go to court and spend a couple thousand dollars to slap away all the nuisance lawsuits. Parlor, their terms of service, according to one lawyer, a First Amendment lawyer I was reading, the user indemnifies them from any cost from a lawsuit because it probably doesn't have any money, right?

So all these random parlor users, if anybody follows a lawsuit against a parlor are going to have to pay thousands out of pocket for tweeting a Holocaust meeting. So you could in theory, if you were George Soros, you could just sue every parlor user into the fucking criminals.

Which if Joe has a sense of humor, he would be the monster that they assume he is. But, you know. That is hilarious. It's funny. But I'm just continually, shock about how extremely online conservative boomers are like imagine like our fathers being obsessed with what means they get get taken down yeah right it's just like come on man go outside

like go talk to somebody look at a cloud i don't know what you're doing yeah no you're right um okay well we've i've been having a great time mark but we put some things in the description and he's them up top that we need to get to. Yeah. We're running out of time. So, all right. Quickly, quickly, let's talk about

Obamacare and the Supreme Court. Seems like, and oral arguments don't, are not always indicative of how the decisions actually go, but it seems like based on oral arguments that the Obamacare is probably going to survive again.

Yeah, so this is a really funny series of events because basically, even though there's these federal society ghouls, like they don't, don't like bad lawyering. They love motivated reasoning of their own opinions, but they don't like people coming to them with it because it makes them look stupid

if they decide on their favor, right? So a few years ago, the old ACA lawsuit where Chief John Roberts saved Obamacare by labeling the mandate attacks, right? That's that it was constitutional. So when Croserdas took the house in 2017, what they did was they passed a law

zeroing out the mandate, right? So if the mandate is, zero has zero enforcing power. They thought people would stop signing up for Obamacare and also be unconstitutional. So that's what the premise of this lawsuit was, was that Obama care is unconstitutional because you can't have a tax of zero. So Congress doesn't have the authority to regulate, you know, in the insurance market. So the problem is you can't make a, Congress can't pass a law.

It's purposely unconstitutional because it breaks everybody's brains, right? The premise of democracy is Congress is trying to do things that are constitutional. So essentially you had you had the conservative side being like, huh, a trick worked, huh? And you had the Democrat, the people trying to preserve it being like, this wasn't a trick. Congress could not have intent.

Like everyone's ignoring the reality, which is that Republicans were trolling when they passed the law. And the conservative courts were like, this trick's not going to work, bro, because we can't assume Congress is acting in bad faith because the whole thing which strict constitutionalism is, we take you guys at your work, right? So they passed a law with a wing, get a nod, and it's not going to work.

And we won't get an opinion, but it looks like this particular effort to destroy Obamacare is not going to work. They come back with another one. Yeah, and I mean, how long have we, how long have they been throwing all of this various shit at the wall where Obamacare is concerned? I mean, it's been what, I mean, it's been 10 years, right? Wasn't it? Yeah.

Like 2010 or so when he finally when he actually got it through something like that. Yeah. It's been 10 years of them actively trying to undermine it, dismantle it entirely. And a lot of that was spent when they had all three branches of the government in hand and still couldn't do it. I used to use that as a justification for the hope that I still felt for the future because it was like, this is the degree of. competence we're working with here on the other side is that they have something they all ostensibly agree upon they have all the power to ostensibly and they still can't get it done they still can't figure it out uh but the thing is go ahead they had 59 votes in the senate

for they had 60 votes in the senate total they had 59 votes for uh uh medicare buy-in so i mean close thing to single payer we're probably ever going to get. And Joe Lieberman fucking pulled out the last minute to make it, so they couldn't, didn't have 60 votes. But Joe Lieberman's the reason, almost cost Democrats, his son's the reason almost cost Democrats to runoff in Georgia for one of the

Senate seats. And also Joe Lieberman came out today and said it's fine that Trump is contesting the election. So fuck Joe Lieberman. All up and them. Heard that. No, fuck Joe Lieberman.

But yeah, what I was about to say is, like this is the degree of incompetence we're working with on the other side. They've got all the power. They have the same viewpoint. but they can't actually get anything done. But look, here's the deal. Don't take that to mean that I have much more faith for our side of the political aisle,

which is one of the major things we wanted to talk about tonight. Like I said earlier, it's so funny. We had, I mean, we didn't at all have a victory in the House. We lost seats. And then in the Senate, you know, all the pollsters, everybody projected these, like, as a potential for a blue wave and we're fighting for our lives to get even the slimmest of

majorities in the Senate and that depends entirely on Georgia. So as we talked about last Thursday, I don't have the utmost of confidence in it. So even after this historic victory of getting more people voted than ever have for the candidate that won, it was a Democratic candidate

and we pushed out fucking the worst president in history as far as I'm concerned and that's all great. But now we're in a position where Democrats are engaging in one of their absolute favorite activities in fighting and being upset with each other and disagreeing about the proper way to go about things with actually that like disagreeing is fine

but the finger pointing in the like unwillingness to find a way forward in the party that's supposed to be the progressive one is some shit that I just will never understand and what I'm talking about is a lot of the candidates that lost were the more milk toast, not, they were like half-progressive

Democrats versus, you know, full-on AOC, the squad type, full-on progressive Democrats. Yes. And AOC, in particular, is given an interview where she has critiqued a lot of the big Democrat methodology, pointing out that apparently the DNC

and all the Democratic leadership have never even attempted to ask progressive candidates who win, like AOC herself, for help and advice with the party at large, which is just, that's insane. And she's talking about organizing, not talking about policy, right? So it's not even, this is a tactical critique,

not a spiritual or a political one. She's saying that like, and just to back up for a second, like the swing district, like the centrist, candidates have lost would tell you they're centrist and they lost because they're in swing districts, whereas AOC is in a safe district. So that would be the response to that. They're probably at least partially, if not significantly correct, but we'll come back to where I think they're mistaken in a

minute. But what she's saying is like, where can your ass is progressive candidates are ousting all these democratic incumbents because we know where your weak points are. We know where the small holes in your death star are. And all we want to do is to tell you how to fix. those and defend them and maybe find holes in their desk are and you won't even take the phone call or take the meetings and she was saying that like the centrist candidates that took her and organized ground like grassroots campaigns and how to spend on digital one and that that does nothing do with the green new deal or Medicare for all or any of that that's just where you spend your money and so and this reporter this reporter from Australia was like yeah she's right man

I tried to cover two swing races in the House in Florida in 2018. And I went to all these different Dem Congress field offices. No one could tell me who was in charge. I couldn't even, no one could tell me where to get a yard sign up at one and one. I couldn't find a copy of the schedule for public appearances. There weren't public appearances. It's like they're not trying, they're not doing the stuff necessary to win elections in 2020, which is to be spending more on Facebook than you're on TV, right?

That's why they love the Lincoln Project so much. The Lincoln Project does old school stuff, like cut ads and just sit back and relax and rake in money. But like, that's not how anything works. You've got to go door to door and shake people's hands and say, hi. I'm the local candidate running for office and you can trust me because you shook my hand, right? I know the pandemic, they thought it should slow that down, but Trump was on the ground and Biden wasn't and look at the effects.

I mean, I think, you know, and Doug Jones just lost. But in the midterms, I was talking. about Doug Jones has been an example of illustrating that you can win in these areas, states, districts, whatever the case may be. You can win

in those as a Democrat if you just, you know, illustrate that you give a shit or you just try. Like there's so many races in so many areas that the Democratic establishment just writes off and they put no effort forth in them and of course you lose.

And in this election, that's what Stacey Abrams proved in Georgia, you know? Yeah. Like you can't. Of course, if you just give up, essentially, and put forth no resources or effort, and like you're saying, like putting in the work in these areas, of course you're not going to win, but that doesn't mean that you can't. Like, and then they fuck up further, I think, when they do the whole trying to play both sides thing.

I know I've talked about it on the show before, but like I said, in the midterms, a huge thing for me, because I'm a Tennessean, was Phil Bredison's race. Because Phil Bredison had been the mayor of Nashville and then the governor of Tennessee and was like well regarded. And I knew that. And he was a Democrat running and I thought and Marsha Blackburn is a succubus lunatic on the other side, the Republican candidate. And I thought Bredesen had a really good shot. But he very much did that play both sides of the aisle, very moderate Democrat. I can work with both type of thing,

up to and including basically endorsing Brett Kavanaugh, when that was going on, saying that he would, you know, vote to confirm him or whatever, right in the midst of all that. And then Phil Bredesen got destroyed. He got worked by Marsha Blackburn.

And that was sort of the end of that whole methodology for me and as far as I'm concerned. Like after that happened, I was like, that shit don't work. You don't, all you do is fail to energize anyone, really, when you do that. You're not getting the other side and you're not convincing the fringe elements of your side that they need to show up and vote for you, you know? Yeah. This, you're talking about like people trusting you and getting to know people.

Okay. Here, Matt Hilbert, who was, it produces our show for us. We're rural organizing. And he sent me this polling data they did. I don't know if you have a screen grab up in Matt, but here's how he phrased it. It says, as a progressive who has spent years working on the rural vote, this is the graph that keeps me up at night. Only 34% of rural white voters think Joe Biden cares about them, but 59% of rural white voters think Donald Trump cares about them. This is why Democrats live.

Now, that is just a matter of time and effort and spending and shaken hands. It is nothing to do with policy choices. And on the actual politics of it, like, it's hard to say that, like, it's hard to say that, like, Biden lost Florida because of overly progressive men. When they passed a $15 minimum wage, exactly, 60 to 40. Like here's some other electoral.

And the felon voting thing in the previous elections, you know, like they supported progressive policies in the state, but he lost. So here's some other stuff that happened this election, an election where, again, that phone call that leaked last week where they're screaming about,

too much talk about defunding the police and the Green New Deal. of the 93 House co-sponsors the Green New Deal who ran on his first seat in Congress's lower chamber in 2020 only one lost. Florida passed a $50 minimum wage because we just talked about.

Montana, South Dakota, Arizona and New Jersey legalized weed. Colorado passed 12 weeks of paid family leave. Arizona increased taxes on the rich to fund education. So when your policy positions

are winning and you as a person or losing, it means people do not like you personally. do not trust you and your party's brand is dog shit. So what, they need to do some real soul searching leading into Georgia. But see, I agree with,

I agree with you completely. But I think it might be easy to interpret what you just said as saying, these people think you don't give a fuck about them or whatever, so they don't care about you. But I think that a lot of these types of candidates we're talking about who try to tow the line in, you know, typically red areas running as a blue candidate.

I think they try to attempt to, again, play both sides or pander to those on the right. I think they're making an attempt to those on the right where they're from to be like, hey, look, I can play ball. I could play ball. It's going to be fine. But the problem with that is you lose a lot of your people on the left

who don't feel like you give a fuck about them. Because, you know, you don't make. make any real effort to illustrate that. And I'm not saying, first of all, I'm not a fucking political scientist. I don't really know what the fuck I'm talking about. But I think the numbers are there in the past couple elections to illustrate it. I'm not saying that if you embrace progressivism as a Democratic candidate in the South or any red area. I'm not saying that you'll win. But I am saying, by and large, if you as an up-and-comer try to do the other thing, where you try to be everything to everybody,

you will lose, I think. So you might as well not do that. You might as well, you know, if I can put your money where your mouth is and stop being half a liberal and go for it. I mean, like, they, people, voters, when you're talking about trustworthiness and stuff,

voters know that Democrats are bullshitting them when they try to back burner issues that know they believe in, but they don't walk about it. right so the correct way they also they make this category democrats brains are stuck in the 90s but as a party but they they the one thing they don't understand is voters like balls right they like so if you're right if you if you if you if you're honest about things you disagree with them about you're like yeah I disagree with you own guns all right we'll talk about that later but I want to help you get health care and we'll have the fight about guns

the next election you can vote me out after you get health care if you know um you could you could do that route Or like also like they make this category era where they think that like swing voters are centrists, but they're not centrist. They're low they're low information voters who listen to the loudest person who sounds like they know what they're talking about. So like John Ossoff could run in Georgia, he could run as an out-and-out communist if you smoke cigarettes or motorcycle jackets in his fucking ass. It's like it's just like this timid bullshit. It doesn't fool anybody and it makes it smart. And like, let me just look at this. clip of John Austoff real quick this interview he did yesterday if you have it handing that.

I hate this. Matt, you're out there. Yeah, anyway. People want to know what kind of person they're voting for, but I think they also want to know what policies that person supports, what you would do, what you would vote for if you were elected. Let me just do a speed round with you. Okay. I can. Do you support the Green New Deal? No. Do you support Medicare for all? No. Do you support D.C. statehood? Yes. You support Puerto Rican statehood?

Yes. Do you support defunding the police? No. Do you support abolishing ICE? No. Do you support expanding the Supreme Court? No. Do you support ending the filibuster?

Maybe. Okay. Tell me more. It's not just a question of yes or no filibuster. What I will consider is the implications in the long run when the shoe was on the other foot. Okay. Like, first of all, disclaimer. up top. I'm going to go to bad

hard for this motherfucker in the coming months and Lord I hope he wins and I'm going to like do everything that I can which is nothing basically but still I'm going to do everything that I can to attempt to help him get elected which is why I say I do not believe

that that is the right approach. Like you're basically sitting, the takeaway from that is you're sitting there saying I don't stand for anything really. Like what? And who is supposed to respond to that? Like, I don't, I don't understand that strategy at all. You know the big kitchen table issue in Georgia right now is Puerto Rican statehood, Trey.

It's like, but one of the reasons we're hoping the guy wins is because we don't believe him, right? I do not believe that if, that if a bill came up to, it wasn't labeled Medicare for all, it's significantly expanded Medicare, but he wouldn't vote for it. I assume he would. that's why I want him to win. So if we don't believe him, why? It's just like, like,

Kamala Harris today had a tweet that was like, we believe health care is a right. We want all people to have access to Medicare. But they don't believe in Medicare for all. So essentially what they're saying is, I'm against Medicare for all, but I want all people to have Medicare. Now that's the only,

that's the kind of shit you can come up with. You went to like two years too much college. It's bullshit. It doesn't make any sense. Well, and there's just also, there's this other mentality of that extreme. And Matt, you start throwing up, pulling up some comments and throwing them up there. Let's talk to the people. But there's this other mentality of, like, that hardcore progressivism is what scares a lot of people so much,

what scares the opposition so much. And that's why we need to avoid it, right? But if you look at all the, not all, but if you look at a lot of the swing state ads, and whatnot. They're not focused on the progressives. They're not focused on the squad and AOC and whatnot. They're focused on Nancy Pelosi, who's the opposite of that. Like, they don't invoke the name of, and I know AOC has become a boogeyman too, but that's kind of my whole point. It, for the people that they are targeting specifically, it's just Democrat, it's just noteworthy Democrats in general. It's an AOC doesn't scare them more than Nancy Pelosi does or

whatever. They hate them both equally. Also, like AOC's profile is not under her own control. Like, Cortez is famous because Fox News made her famous. And they made her famous as a boogeyman because their business model is making your

granddad horny and angry and she's pretty and she's a socialist so she does both. Right? Mm-hmm. All right. Charlie Hill, I think from YouTube, says, for Dems to win in the South, especially Texas, you got to show up at least look like you're trying and i agree charlie you're right that's what i'm saying like you gotta

because dug again doug jones just lost but in 2018 and yes he was going against a goddamn child molester but still it's alabama y'all deeply red and but there was a huge movement because there was opportunity there fucking charles barclay and everybody else is on the ground in alabama really putting forth effort in that election and he won it because like charlie just said You have to appear to actually give a shit or you have no chance at all. Yeah. And like in Cortez's point in that interview was like, like you may be the Green New Deal and defund the police or whatever did scare a ton of voters.

But you don't have the proof to show it because you didn't actually try to get elected. Like her example was like, well, Connor Lamb lost. He spent like $2,000 the last week on Facebook while she was telling people to spend $200. You know, so like it's, you can't just buy $2.000. Another thing I feel like, people listening to us right now, Mark, who might want to contradict us or might want to throw out a counterpoint. I feel like they might say something like, well, look, what about the presidential primary?

You have Bernie, a true progressive, and he lost to Joe Biden. And now Joe Biden's the president. And you're right. But in my opinion, you know why Bernie lost? It wasn't about the progressivism thing. It was because Joe Biden did this work we are talking about in the same. South in the black community to a degree that Bernie

didn't in states like South Carolina and other southern states and that's why Biden won not because of the moderate versus progressive thing in my opinion he won because he put the work in in a lot of the states that mattered and I'm not saying Bernie

neglected all of them but that you know you got to you got to allocate resources and a lot of the South got neglected by Bernie side I feel like and that's where Biden fucking roared back from behind on. So I don't know. Okay.

Pat. Pat Safe Harbor. Pat Safai-Habor says, 45 is a populist. People want someone who gets them. They think he does. But they just want someone who talks to them. I agree with that too.

Like that, yeah, you're right. Because he lied. He lied. about everything he said, but he at least attempted to pretend to give a shit about a lot of these people, a lot of these demographics in the 2016 election that no one else was even pretending to give a shit about. No, every election cycle, you'll have Democrats propose like a refundable tax credit to help truck drivers learn a code, you know? Very, people love,

people love being told that. Yeah. Yeah. Now, my grandpa, my maternal grandpa, my mother's father, was a truck driver his entire life. And now look, he's been dead for 15 years now. But just, I always think about him when I think about all that. Let's teach him to code stuff. And I love my grandpa. He was awesome. But he weren't about no code in life.

You know what I mean? Like he fucking, he was a goddamn truck driver. That's what he did. And he was good at it. Took pride in it. bought me all kinds of toys with his truck driver money. He was a good man, but he wasn't trying to learn no fucking C++ or whatever they're talking about.

I remember my grandfather always asking me if I was learning computers. I don't know. Computers, yeah. Putting him on one would have helped much. But before we go on the next comment, I want to shout out Natalie Morrow Nichols, one of our regulars, who she tried to, I remember our toy tray, she tried to mail us lucky hats, but they got sent back to her.

whatever for election day. Instead, she took the money and bought sandwiches for people in line to vote. So I wanted to thank her. That's awesome. I know Natalie's wonderful. I know Natalie is. She's great. I didn't realize that the hats had gotten sent back or whatever. What happened? The address didn't work. They got returned to send her. I don't. Is that what happened? Because I got that address from my wife. I asked her to confirm it for me. So did she give me the wrong one? We're going to blame it on her. Hey, look at this. Mark, Sonny. Renee says yes love Mark's new wallpaper. Thank you. I dig it myself. We got our new apartment decorated. This is the office.

Probably the other wallpaper is in the kitchen. So you'll know whether they're in the office or the kitchen depending on the wallpaper. Right on. But yeah, I don't, I just went, the thing that's annoyed me the most about Democrats as a Democrat, the thing is annoyed me the most about being a Democrat. The thing is annoying me the most about being a Democrat for a long time now is the the like the cannibalization

or whatever and I get where it comes from it comes from this like high standard that various factions of like liberals want to hold all liberals to or whatever which I feel like is admirable in the abstract or whatever but it just ends up

fucking us all over at the end of the day it's not just that like if if one of the ways in which are politics isn't symmetrical, the Republicans are actually a political party. They almost all believe the same things. Democrats are our coalition of a bunch of different interest groups that not only

do not necessarily believe the same things, sometimes believe the opposite things. In a parliamentary system, AOC and Rashida-Salib would be in a different political party than Nancy Pelosi. In the British context, for example, they'd be in labor, and Pelosi, I think, would be in the liberal Democrats.

You're kind of blown. in my mind right now with that. Because I never thought about it that way because I used to always just say like, you know, look, you could say what you want about conservatives, but they fucking stick together, right? Like they, they are on the same team and they know it. It don't matter what you do. If you got an R next to your name or if you identify as one of them, they will go to bat for you. And we don't do that. And sometimes we shouldn't, you know, for fucking, you know, I don't care if you're a liberal. If you sexually assault somebody, you've got to go. Like, I'm not saying otherwise. That's not what I mean.

breaks the entry. Yeah, I know, yeah. I've taken a stand here. But, but, though, I hadn't thought about the way you just put it, but I mean,

I guess you're right because I think about, I don't know, is it true that there's no more like subtlety amongst conservative policies than that? Because the one difference

I can think of immediately is I think a lot of like rich people or people with a lot of money could not give a fuck less about all of the different abortion, gay rights,

whatever. They don't give a fuck about none of that. They literally only care about the money. But then you got people who aren't rich. And it seems like they mostly have all the same opinions where abortion, Black Lives Matter, defund the police, yada, yada,

are concerned. Yeah, rich people don't care about what the abortion law is. They'll be able to get an abortion no matter what anyway. So it's a much simpler coalition. Whereas opposed to the Democratic side, you've got like, I don't know, unionized guys. for petroleum companies and environmentalists in the same political. You've got you've got like cosmopolitan people that work in finance and you've got socialists

who want to regulate the finance industry. Right. So it's just like these are groups are diametrically opposed who have to work together. It's weird. It's weird because I guess I never thought about it because I'm one of those I'm one of those supercomies who like, you know, falls on the liberal side of pretty much all of those disparate issues. You know what I mean? but you're right though yeah you got union workers in detroit or whatever versus environmentalist

in Portland or whatnot who are both liberals but there's a lot of difference in between them so yeah that's true that's interesting the pharmaceutical industry is based in new jersey heavily right where Cory Booker is a senator and they might be fine with gay marriage but they're not going to be super cool with social medicine you're saying it's just like yeah yeah no you're right you're right Tanya Delaney says Stacey Abram and several African-American coalitions were a big part of voter turnout. Yeah, absolutely 100%. I think we talked about it on the last episode, but it cannot be said enough. Yeah, this win is on black people.

I mean, like, black people fucking showed up. If you, again, I know we talked about it last time, but if you look at the demographics and the turnout numbers and whatnot, all of the other demographics, not just white people, but all of the other demographics, not just white people but all you know Latino and whatever else they might have been 60 40 65 35 for Biden or whatever but black people black men was like 85 15

black women was like 92 8 for Biden over Trump so I mean black people are the ones who turn the tide also you look at the black cities that ended up being the difference in various states like Detroit and Michigan and Atlanta and Georgia and Philadelphia and Pennsylvania. And I mean, yeah, it couldn't be clearer that we wouldn't have shit if it was right people. The margin of Biden's victory in those two states, Minnesota and Detroit, a heavy chunk of it came from Rashida to leave in Ilhan Omar's districts where they were knocking on doors and spending more on digital.

Again, this is a tactical debate. It's not to do with politics. You can say, well, they talk about defund the police too much or whatever. Maybe they do. Maybe it turns off a lot of suburban swing voters, but they work. They do work. I see over here on the side, Shannon Hack, I'm sorry, I forgot your last name. Because now, producer Matt's here, I've got to just look at the comments as they scroll by very quickly, and I can't put them up there. But Shannon Hack said the Native American community in Arizona also showed up. And yes, absolutely shout out to them too. They had like a 76% turnout in one reserve and then went right back from COVID lockdown because they were in the middle of

outbreak. So shout out to them. We had another commenter just, oh, here we go. Nicholas, Nicholas R. Lee says Smart Mark should really be known as sexy Mark and we all know it. Let me tell you

something, Nicholas, you don't know. You think you know, but you don't really know. You need to spend time in this man's personal space and his aura and see what he really projects in the same room. And then you'll know just how sexy he is. Man's ripped. shredded. He's got it all. He puts it out there to the world.

And you're right. It's just that sexy Mark don't have that same, like, assonance flavor to it that smart Mark does. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I'm not sure what I make my hate more. So thank you and fuck you both. I appreciate it. Thank you, Nicole. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. Okay.

Why do all the guys ripping off welfare couch, shit and fellers in my county in Tennessee vote for Trump? Somebody said. Because they think they deserve welfare. Exactly. I've literally known people in my personal life who were like hardcore, conservatives, Republicans, or whatever, who were on food stamps, who were on welfare.

And the only justification they needed was, well, I need mine. Like, look, I need mine. they don't and that's so fucked up but i mean that's just that's the mentality that's how it works yeah which sucks i mean there is a not to say it's the same thing but like her and vulva democracy was what uh germany was it's like it's to my social democracy but for only the whites and so Melissa may say can we talk about which cabinet position stacey abrams is going to get if she flips the runoff blue i don't think she even had to deliver that prize to get something.

I think she deserves it already, and I think the Biden administration will feel the same way. If she does sort of deliver both the Senate seats, I don't know. I think they'll give her almost whatever the fuck she wants, or at least they should. She's a lawyer, right? I don't know.

I don't know. I see no much about her personal background. What her blood is before. I see someone over, I see a lot of people over here saying she should be chair of the DNC, which, yes, that would be. I think we would all be infinitely better off if that happened. As far as the most efficacy we can get out of Stacey Abrams' awesomeness, I think that that is the job, chairwoman of the DNC.

Are you saying you don't want to, like, so, because after Robbie Mook ran Hillary's campaign to the ground, he took over the DCCC. So how to Congress, let's give Robbie Mook a third shot, the motherfucker who can't win an election with spotting him 40 points. God damn it. Yeah, she, yeah. No, I mean. It's an author and an activist, so I'd give her HHS or a HUD or something.

That'd be good for a better one. Yeah. All right. Well, that's it for us. On this edition of Evening, thank you all so much for being here. It'll only be 48 hours and we'll be back and maybe we'll have more stuff to Chef's Kiss too. It's such a change of pace the past couple episodes from the ones before it and I for one doing it.

So we'll see what happens. Yeah. I'm sorry. That's Mark. What's up, Mark? Yeah, there he goes. Give it up for producer Matt everybody. Thank you all.

We'll see you next time. We're not going to click leave. If you didn't see the text message, just click leave. Yeah. We're not going to closing credits because Matt's having technical difficulties, but see you guys Thursday. See you all. Well, here we are. Welcome back, everybody.

Today is Thursday, November 12th. I'm Trey Crowder. That's Mark Aegee. What's up, Mark? What's up, Trey? We got producer Matt behind the scenes, pulling the strings. as always, and this is evening skews.

Got a good show for you tonight. We're going to talk about the new Fox News. If you guys didn't know there was a new Fox News, well, there is one, and you never believe this. It's even dumber.

We're also going to talk about the current state of Trump's concession. Will he, won't he? Who's to say? Certainly not us, but we will pontificate about it. Maybe we'll get into some COVID talk and some other miscellaneous fun topics for y'all,

and then we go to the comments as always and it's going to be a good time. But first, as always, we begin with the Daily Dumbass. Production Matt, let's hit it. So, as has been the case in many of our recent episodes, there were numerous potential nominees for the Daily Dumbassery, but there can be only one. And tonight, the official evening skews Daily Dumbass is

anyone on the left who, casually disregarded allegations of voter fraud in this country, particularly in states like Michigan, without first considering sandwich vans. What does that mean? Well, I couldn't possibly describe it. So we'll go directly to Trump administration whistleblower Melissa Corroney, who had this to say on Fox News on the subject. the workers with food for their shift. Well, they only had enough food for one third of their workers. So that is the reason why they were claiming

that these vans were brought in. But these vans did not have taken out of them. And the vans that showed up, they were supposed to be filled with food. What did they have? have been to them? Do you know? I never saw anything being brought out of the vans. I know that whatever was being brought out of the vans was being brought out of the back of the vans, but I was not allowed over in that area. So as a Midwesterner, I have a lot of experience with

sandwich vans. I know the exact amount of vans it takes to feed X amount of people, and these vans were clearly not sandwich vans. Okay, I assume they were ballot vans. Perhaps they had illegal immigrants in them. I'm not sure. But what they did not have was sandwiches, ergo voter fraud. Clearly, Donald Trump remains the president for four years. Case closed, buddy.

You heard it here first. This is so funny for a lot of reasons, but you remember that famous scene of office base when they're cutting their birthday cake and, uh, the nerdy cat, the camera of the character's name, the one he stills a stapler at the end. He keeps passing cake and there's no cake and he's furious

and that's basically why he decides to burn down the building about his cool worker. Yeah. Essentially her being like, I didn't get it my sandwich before Antifa's behind it. I assume there were no sandwiches

in those vans since I did not receive a sandwich. But I don't, what is? What? Like, yeah. What? What is this supposed? I saw some vans pull up after there had been a food shortage. I didn't see sandwiches come out of those vans. I didn't see it, although I do admit I was not allowed in the sandwich van area. But from afar, with my gaze, I did not observe sandwiches coming out. of these vans and therefore Donald Trump's a president like that's pretty much it

right that's the whole thing yeah it's like the only old thing about absence of evidence is an evidence of absence or whatever it's like that but like with sandwiches and i i can't but the steps of this like she is as much she got vetted by lou dubs people right somebody yeah the american people have to hear this i mean as much as it seems like fox news has has a sign-up sheet you can go on and say whatever nonsense you want. Like, the only anger had to send you the video clip of her. They disguised that woman's voice.

And like she was deep throat and interviewed her live on the air about, I forget what she claims they've seen, but it was ridiculous. She saw the, yeah, Laura Ingram, they had a deep throat like that classic. They are a silhouette. You can't see anything about them other than they're a silhouette and their voice is being modified. and they said they saw someone get like thrown up against a Biden Harris van or something like that where they were like just piling ballots out the back of it or some shit because like of course you're going to have the you know illegal voter fraud the illegal ballot van you're going to put

the official campaign slogan and logo and designation across the outside of it yeah but yeah they did the whole interview deep throat style and everything, and that's not the only one they've done either. They've had a number of people on Fox News this week in that deep throat style of interviewing and all of them

have sandwich van equivalent stories to tell. I guess some of them, you know, you're not willing to put their face on it. When you're up to no good, you really want to write doing crimes inside of your van. Like, it's like the mystery machine from Scooby-Doo. Right. These people, at least

they make a little relieved. They think that that's how it's how crime works. They probably aren't committing a lot of them. That's good. Yeah. All right. Well, so we've got as, as usual,

we have some honorable mentions for you for the Daily Dumbassery. The first on the list of honorable mentions is Senator Rand Paul, who has a firm grasp of how COVID should be treated in this country moving forward. Matt, play the clip. protecting them. But the other thing is, is we have 11 million people in our country who have

already had COVID. We should tell them to celebrate. We should tell them to throw away their masks, go to restaurants, live again, because these people are now immune. But Dr. Fauci doesn't want to admit to any of that. Dr. Fauci is like, oh, what was me? Until the election occurs and now maybe he'll be changing his attitude. But the bottom line is there's a great... Well, there you have it, Mark. We should be having a I didn't die party nationwide in this country. I got it and didn't die. My aunt did, but I'm here for Taco Tuesday.

Yeah, you got a stainless appetizing night, buddy. So Rand Paul, first of all, is a doctor. Yeah, apparently. He went to Duke. He went to Duke Medical School. By the way, Duke turned out Richard Spencer, Stephen Miller, and Rand Paul. So they should probably take a few years off in basketball and focus on some of shit.

He went to Duke Medical School. He also had COVID, so he knows what he's saying is bullshit. You don't, do, there's no, people have gotten COVID twice. It looks like. Nobody knows anything right now. It's a novel disease. It's fucking wild. But like, he knows, he knows the research shows that it's definitely possible you can get it twice.

So they are not immune as it, as it were. Also, fun little random politics, but he, he created his own board to certify himself for as an ophthalmologist. Right. Which is the most repulatory. Republican senator thing in the history of Republican senators. Yeah. I don't know you could do that, Tray. I'm going to create my own.

Well, you can't. You can't unless you're in a position like he is in. But also. I can't just send $15 off him coming out to my office. The other thing about this clip is that it sort of sums up that general mentality that their side seems to have about COVID, which is like, if you, are fine, fuck everyone else. Do you know what I mean?

Like the reason they hate, like with masks, they refuse to wear masks because it doesn't protect you from the virus. It's like no one, no one has, no one is saying no one has ever said that wearing the mask is for your benefit. It helps everyone else. So if everyone wears a mask, then that helps everyone else out.

But they just can't see the logic in that. And this kind of like sums it up. where it's like if you if you are okay which as you already said there's no reason to believe that that's actually true either that you're completely all right if you've had COVID and survived it but either way is if you are okay then fucking throw a party who gives a fuck about everybody else you know get out there do your thing yeah it just makes the misery it's like a metaphor for like teaching people to lay gratification right because you can go to that party but the pandemic's going to be longer right

Right. So you can go to Cheatheed me if you want, get your fried ice cream, you know. But it's just going to, like, I heard this interview with this lady who was very upset the president lost his election. And she was, she, she, she, her small business, a small business that went under and her kids are super depressed sitting at home. And all that is terrible. I empathize with her. But she's blaming, like, like, your small business would have went under anyway because people, other, the 70% of people who don't want to get it,

you can't drag them into your business. Do you know what I'm saying? You can't make people go to movies in restaurants and shit. So yes, you go to the pizza, CC's Pizza Buffet or what? You're going to be there, one or five people in there, and CC's pizza is going to go out of business.

So I don't know. It's just all very stupid. They want to drag everybody into stupid with them, is I guess the strategy. So speaking of dragging, or dragging people into stupidity, COVID our other Daily Dumbastery nominee is

the passengers aboard the first cruise ship to sail the Caribbean since the beginning of the pandemic. That happened if you guys missed it. Sea Dream 1 set sale from Barbados on Saturday for a seven-night voyage. Four days into said

voyage, guests were told that a passenger had tested positive for the virus. Now, Mark, listen, because I imagine we're going to get into some anti-cru ship rhetoric here. I I just want they're out there. As a white trash American, I have been on multiple cruises, three of them, in fact. And so I feel like I can say that getting coronavirus on a cruise ship is like the third least entertaining thing that could happen to you.

You know what I mean? Like, I don't know what you were expecting to happen on the first pandemic cruise ship, but getting the virus is. near the top. I have a, I've never been on a cruise myself. So I can only hypothesize. And from how urgently people wanted to get back on cruise ships to catch COVID, it must be the most amazing experience.

And I've always assumed it's not. It's not. I mean, I don't want to be very similar. It's one of those things that like seems cool. If, you know, again, if you're a white trash American like I am, but then you get out there and you're like stuck on this boat with all these other Walmarters the whole time and eating the same stuff they tell you as prime rib

which is really like beef roast or something like that it's probably not even beef I don't know what they put in there but yeah and then you you know the comedy shows the like Jeopardy games they play RIP Alistaback by the way and all that is all just to distract you from the from the fact that you're stuck on a boat in the middle of the ocean

with, you know, all of your aunts that you grew up with, basically. And again, I didn't just go on one. I've been on three. I chose to go back. And honestly, I had a really good time. I'm sitting here shitting on it because I'm just trying to make jokes. But I had fun because that's, you know, that's what they're there for. I got, we got, me and my wife got drugged on one of the cruises we went on.

That's a fun fact. That is actually true. Actually, a lot of people that were with us think that we just got really drunk. but no that's not what happened I've been drunk plenty of times we got doped with something

and it came out way later that the I think we were in it was a Playa del Carmen we were in in Mexico and the area we were in it was in the news later

that they had tainted alcohol they were serving to tourists and I think that's what we got a hold of but either way if it hadn't been for my brother and sister-in-law, I guess me and Katie would be in Ply Del Carmen to this day because we drank the specialty margaritas, which were in like a Kool-Aid pitcher, so like, you know it's

legit. And I was totally fine before I drank the margarita. And the next thing I know, I woke up eight hours later in the fetal position in our cabin. So, yeah, I'm just saying there's a lot of dangers when you could go on one of these cruises and now you just had COVID to the list and it's like just another box you can check on your big Caribbean cruise you go on. This is how I learned you're a higher level of white trash than I am because we couldn't afford

big fancy cruises when I was a kid. I'm not talking about when I was a kid. See that's what like this was all two of them were my ex-girlfriend, my college girlfriend who's on parlor now check her out on parlor. And the and then the third one was with my now wife and her sister. them and that was like in my head because I grew up like you did in my head like cruises were like fancy people shit so when I got in college and was able to people like yeah we can go on a cruise for whatever amount of money I was like who look at us

yeah out here you know I mean you're doing the thing but now I know that's was from Gilligan's Island I was like oh millionaires go on cruises yeah yeah all right I always thought I mean like everything I about cruise to learn from Lifetime movies where you like you do as you take the new wife on a cruise so you can shove over the edge of international water yeah so uh we mentioned parlor we mentioned my ex-girlfriend ban on parlor which is true we talked about parlor at length on tuesday but and i put out of liberal redneck video about parlor on tuesday but in both instances i we neglected to mention something that has since become one of my favorite facts about Parlor, which I did not know at the time, but I've since found out about, which is if you all don't know, and again, self-parity, I'm aware, but I promise you this is true. On Parlor, instead of retweeting something, like the equivalent of retweeting something,

is called echoing. You echo things you agree with. And I'm not sure, but I assume instead of, like, forums or pages or that type of thing, they have chambers as well on parlor. So you can echo things in your chamber where the last bastion of free speech is concerned. Yeah. Yeah, the echoing thing is like in their terminology, if you ever see people online, use somebody's name and they have three parentheses around it, we're calling that person Jewish. That's their... Okay.

You mentioned that, but appreciate it. before we went on the air, I don't like, okay, what? So you're saying if someone, if someone who isn't Jewish, uh, types out someone's name and they surround it on both sides with three parentheses. Yeah. That's labeling that person as a Jew and the, and that practice is referred to as echoing or that's an echo.

If you look at it in print, it looks like an echo, like, like a cartoon echo. So yeah, they call those echoes forever. So like this is like, this is them doing a pun about their weird dumb code they invented to try to get around Twitter's speech policy. Which, so the reason they did it was an anti-Semitic pun, you're saying. Like that was the play on words they were doing. But they did it without, apparently without while failing to realize that it was a very obvious. self-owned regarding the echo chamber nature of their platform. Yeah.

It's what happened. It's the three main things about the all right, right? They're hateful, stupid, and trying to be funny all at the same time. Right. And lacking, and I know this is covered under the umbrella of stupid, but like just lacking in self-awareness to such a degree, you know, like I don't know how that hasn't occurred to any of them. And of course, Trump is on Twitter now, or excuse me, I'm sorry, Trump is on

parlor now and he's got so many well they're not tweets what are they called on parlor fucking screeds slurs he's got some parlor slurs anyway where he directly says like election was stolen echo if you agree

um I mean they like they they so parlor's been around for two years now and there's a bunch of big mass exodus of the social media where a bunch of people announced that they're leaving and going to Parlor, they have all their followers to come with them. And then they always come back because to spread your message, you need to have people

that aren't already invested. You're literally preaching to just the choir. You know, it's like, so it'd be like there were no other pews in the church except for the choir. That's basically what it is. So they always have always. Okay. So speaking of both Parlor and preaching to the choir, there is a new Fox News out there

because we all know Fox News sucks now because they called Arizona early or whatever. So a lot of the hardest of the hardcore Trumpers are abandoning Fox News in an exodus, it seems like. And where are they going besides parlor? Well, there's a station for that. It's called Newsmax, Newsmax TV, whose viewership has exploded to the tune of like 800% since the election. Now, there's still around like 800,000 but million viewers. But before that, it was 50,000 to 100,000 viewers on average. for their prime time shows.

So it's exploding currently. And I'm just wondering, Mark, what you, and so, remember that it's just Fox News cranked up even further. Like, if you go on YouTube, if you go on Newsmax's YouTube, and you click on their trending videos, I'm going to read to you the headlines of these videos with no added, no editorializing or anything. These are just the headlines of the videos.

Keep your eye on Arizona. Dot, dot, dot, dot, and Hunter Biden. number two donald trump made me made me vote republican for the first time now i'm fighting for him and that's a black republican who's saying that uh from the screen grab number three Mitch McConnell calls out Democrats on the Senate floor number four Trump calls out Fox and Rick Gates reacts number five the maskless Biden jamboree continues number six you won't believe what they're doing in Pennsylvania number seven fraud in Philadelphia.

Number eight, Trump released his statement after Biden is projected as the winner. Number nine, Trump's legal team responds after racist call for Biden. Number 10, Kim Gilfoyle sounds off on Fox News, Democrats, and voter fraud. And then there's 30 more, and they're all equally ridiculous. So that's what Newsmax is all about.

And again, they're exploding in viewership right now. Oh, oh, also, I don't know, Matt, if you have a screen grab of this tweet, I'm going to throw up here when I was reading about Newsmax earlier. It was a tweet from Alana Stewart, who is like Rod Stewart's ex-wife or something like that. But it says, I'm watching Sean Spicer's show on Newsmax right now. People like Chris Wallace on Fox News Sunday have ruined Fox News for me. I don't know what they're thinking over there, but it's sure not working. conservatives just want fair unbiased reporting so there you go that explains the explosion of newsmax recently just it's more fair and more unbiased than fox news mark that's why they're going there

yeah i mean like the this the the danger of this stuff is um reality eventually asserts itself and it becomes more painful right so like like for example if you just got all your election news in 2016 from that New York Times needle that had like it was like oh Hillary 99% chance to win that was of course that people like that out of context that was after um when she was still ahead in florida and the needle goes like that all night so it was just like it but anyway you just got all your news from that needle when she lost you would have been like your whole your whole reality bubble would collapse right um and they did kind of happen to liberals in 2016 but like so you're watching they still think trump's going to be president in january 20th no that

I do. Yeah, 100%. It's not going to be barring some awful, barring the end of America. So it's just going to be more and more painful. So I feel bad. So directly related to what you're saying, there's an article on CNN business about Newsmax, and it's written by Brian Stelter, who's a correspondent for CNN business. And within the article, he talks about this, I don't know if you call it a theory, or whatever that he's had, but he's like tracking how Donald Trump supporters are going through

the five stages of grief, right, which is denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and finally acceptance. And right now, they're just at the denial and anger stages. But according to him, it's like, we'll see them go through the rest of them. But that's kind of hard for me to believe because I feel like those first two do a whole lot of heavy lifting for these people in general. Denial and anger seem to get them through. most of what they need in their life, right?

Like I feel like they don't often move on to the further stages. So can we really expect that where Trump is concerned? I know you're saying like this just makes it worse when reality does set in on them. But these people seem pretty good at keeping reality at bay to me. So like what should we really expect as they go through this process? Will they ever accept it? it doesn't I mean what does that mean

what does that mean what does that mean when I say will they ever accept it I mean like true like just admit okay he lost that makes me mad but he lost there wasn't cheating or whatever like to me

that would be acceptance there was no fraud my guy lost I don't know how you would define acceptance of this scenario well I mean in their view Trump can't have lost because Trump doesn't lose, right? So.

Right. But that's denial, though. The it's stolen from him thing doesn't even fit in that narrative because if it's stolen from him, that means he got out maneuvered, not smart. So that doesn't fit in the worldview either. So. But that's all just denial, though, what you just said. Like, that's all just different shades of denial for them.

Yeah, I mean, they've been denial and anger since Obama was elected in 2008. I know. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. I don't know that they're capable of going to the further steps in the stages of grief. I think that like denial and anger is sort of like that's their wheelhouse. That's where they live. You know, like I don't see them going beyond that, let alone all the way to acceptance.

I mean, it's hard to know, man. We've never had a cult of personality around a politician in America like this. So like this isn't like a president of losing election. And this is closer to how Los Angeles felt when co-cons. always helicopter crashed you know it's like it's it's it's it's a it's going to be really i mean i'm honestly if you told if you gave me this set of facts like two weeks ago i would have predicted that people had gotten killed i would have assumed that some people had gotten up a few buildings and i know one q-on-on guy tried in philly caught him before you get to get out of his car

but it's I don't know that on that note on that note okay does that hey does that come down to the competence that they have or what but um I think it all further going further this idea of the stages of grief for them and will they ever land on acceptance I feel like a lot of that has to do although I'd be skeptical they could get there regardless but a lot of that has to do with whether or not Trump himself ever, ever actually concedes, right? Which he's still, of course, refusing to do. And lately, more and more prominent Republicans have come out and said that he should, although not nearly enough.

But in case he doesn't, they have people standing ready to make some shit out of it. Like, related to what you just said, I would have thought someone would have been hurt by now. militia leader Stuart Rhodes says he has men stationed outside of DC ready to engage in violence upon Trump's command this guy is the leader of the oath keepers militia

and let me read this too this from an article on Media Matters the oathkeepers militia which comprises former law enforcement officials and military veterans and is described by the Southern Poverty Law Center as, quote, one of the largest radical anti-government groups in the U.S. today. But as their leader Rhodes has recently made clear,

the organization's purpose has, weirdly, for some reason, shifted recently from opposing the government to instead acting as a pro-Trump vigilante group that is willing to violently support his unjust attempts to stay in power after losing the 2020 election. So that's what we're working with here. Obviously, the threat of violence is still not out of the way. But, like, I don't know, fear is probably not the right word,

but how worried are you about all of this actually amounting to something? I have a lot of stuff on the right. You can't tell what they mean, what's a hustle for cash. You know, it's like, because it's all wrapped up together. Like, eventually the both keepers raise a ton of money after he said that. yeah and you at least uh i mean when you had your eye surgery and he looked like a bad asses and there he's that rocking eye i guess eye patches do you make it look like a badass yes i didn't say it but this guy this guy wears an eye patch there

he is look at him stewart roads he wears an eye dude it's honestly this kind of sucks for me because of what i went through recently with my eyes and having the surgery for people just so y'all know, I had that surgery because I had double vision that needed to be surgically corrected. The only other thing that I could do when my double vision was like really pronounced or really acting up was wear a fucking eye patch. And I only did it in my house because I was like, I can't just be walking around wearing a fucking eye patch, but I had an actual medical reason for why I needed to wear an eye patch. And so that just, that, that, prohibits me from going in on this

motherfucker to the degree that I would like to do, but I'm, I just, I cannot believe that, you know, I look, Mark, I need my eye patch, okay? This guy he don't need his eyes are just lazy. His eyes are lazy. His eyes are lazy. They don't work.

They just want to have a government handout eye patch, whereas I need it my eye patch, you know. Yeah. I mean, no, but it is ridiculous. I think, These guys are being really loud right now, but I do think for a lot of people,

I mean, like the lack of actual violence and, you know, it feels like a fever might have broken a little bit. Like I sent you guys the other night, that screen grab about like posting in Q&on forums has gone through the floor. Like it's like, they're, it's less popular right now than a diaper fetish, the diaper fetish board on each two.

So that's good. That is good. That is good, obviously, but it also seems weird to me. Like, how do you explain that? Because I mean, I would have thought, obviously, they're all insane and it's all ridiculous, but I would have thought that they would explode with fury

over the concept of their hero, the guy who is the glass, line of defense against this global cabal of pedophilic comedies or whatever him facing being voted out of losing the position. I feel like

you would think that would make them rage harder than anything before. So I'm glad it's falling off a cliff but I don't really understand why though. Like... Oh, easy. Because this isn't...

You're thinking of in terms of like an actual political fight among humans, but there's a lot misses his rep. They think the scripture foretold that Trump was definitely going to win. So if he lost... Oh, oh, that's one of our prophecy things. Yeah, yeah. But haven't they moved the goalpost on that multiple times already?

Like, it seems weird that this was the thing that finally stopped them from doing that. Like, I figured they would just... When's the last time a prophet of the apocalypse has ever been deterred by the apocalypse not happening or the opposite in this case I guess but whatever the smaller the smaller group of hardcore people is definitely going to lean into it harder but I'm saying the larger people who casually followed a death called about aliens and that's both I don't understand that either I mean I guess that's what I'm saying I don't understand it's wild to me that there are

people who casually followed the alien pedophile death cult or whatever That seems odd, but I guess they were. Like, imagine dabbling in that, you know? And then the election happens, and you're like, hmm, I guess they're not drinking baby blood, okay, or whatever. Like, I don't, what is that? That's crazy, obviously. I mean, it's like, like, it's like, like, the Empire of Japan.

They thought the emperor was a God who couldn't lose. So losing the war. war was like an existential religious problem for them. There's even like the famous case that's guided, there's a Japanese soldier in the jungle had been surrendered to the 1970s. Right. So there's going to be that guy in the Q&I movement. But the overall island.

Wait. Okay. Okay. But going off of that, though, going off that analogy, because yes, I've heard that before, too, that basically the atomic bomb essentially killed their god pretty much. Like, Japan culturally is almost entirely atheist or the equivalent now because as a direct result of that is what I've heard.

Like, it made them lose faith, which, like, of course it did. But what, like, going back to what you were saying earlier about this all making the truth harder to accept for them when it finally does set in, you know, like, I just still can't see. This is not the equivalent of a fucking atomic bomb. Nothing is. This election isn't, nothing is. But I just, it's hard for me to see them, them being the hardcore Trump people, ever losing faith, I guess is what I'm saying.

Like, or reality ever setting in, you know? I just don't, I just don't see it. And I don't know what that looks like. I guess they will all be the Japanese soldier in the jungle until the 70s. know, which is Trump is still their president for the next 40 years or whatever? I don't know, but I just can't see

them coming to terms with it. Yeah, I don't know. It's going to be interesting. So, speaking, talking about him conceding, the idea of him conceding, like I said earlier, a lot of high-level Republicans have publicly come out and stated that Joe

Biden is the president-elect and it needs to be accepted by Donald Trump. People like, George W. Bush, Carl Rove, Mike DeWine, Maryland Governor Larry Hogan, Massachusetts Governor Charlie Baker, Maine Senator Susan Collins,

Lisa Murkowski, Mitt Romney, Ben Sassy, and more. I feel like a lot of these are the kinds that, the Republicans that were already kind of sort of on the shit list of the hardcore people on the right all ready. Do you know what I mean? Like in recent

years, so it doesn't really mean all that much? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's a like Trump's already leaking that Trump doesn't mean any of this and it's all just theater for his base so you can be seen fighting for them. But the funny part to me is it works on

liberals too. They're like they're being driven insane by this mental image of a coup happening. And we're in theater, man. Stop doing performative stuff. It's probably everyone insane. but yeah I don't I wish he would

concede but I don't even know what that looks like he's the guys never said I'm sorry in his life never once never said he's sorry never admitted to being even a little bit wrong about anything and something on this scale yeah I just I also cannot conceive of it so I would be stunned if that

happened let's tell you a brief aside here Mark I just we've never talked about this before on or off the air and I'm just curious where you think George W. Bush rightful falls in history with the list

of like Republican presidents or whatnot like what should his legacy ultimately be and I ask the question because like

George W. Bush has been times have gone a lot easier on George W. Bush in recent years because Trump is so terrible

that it makes him look so much better in retrospect which like I think that's objectively true as far as I'm

concerned as a Democrat he's objectively much preferable to Donald fucking Trump but that doesn't mean that he was good I mean he was president when I was in college and I hated that motherfucker

I hated him and I'm just wondering where you think like how that should all ultimately shake out you know when history is written or whatever well I mean we're going to I think do you have an accurate take on this we have to look forward 100 years and see if America

still standing and what shape it's in because Because I think on paper, George J. Bush was a much worse president than Donald Trump. Like Donald Trump hasn't killed nearly as many people as George B. Bush did. Right. They were still in, um, turned us into a, we're still in wars he started. We're still living in his economy with that we're, you know, restruct everything upward, change for the labor laws. It's just, Trump's, I'm not saying Trump is good by any means, but he just didn't, he just

more ineffectual, right? He just didn't, yeah, right. Getting out the attention span to do any worldwide calamities. Right. But the stuff he did do, like the hollowing out of the entire federal bureaucracy, is like, what wars are we going to be in 15 years from now? We don't have a State Department. You know what I'm saying?

Like, that's the stuff we don't have the information to play out. They're both fucking terrible? I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. All right, so let's move on. Let's talk about COVID for a little bit. Not that any of our listeners need to hear it, but it is very much still a real thing.

And in fact, you know, scientists, doctors, experts have been saying this for forever that this would be the case. But now that we're moving into wintertime, now that we're moving into colder weather, it seems to be exploding, which is how these things work. It's not surprising, but it is true. and what is that going to mean for how the country in particular states respond to this? You know, I live in California, but I'm from Tennessee, and I know that, you know, in Tennessee, things are still open. They're at half capacity or whatever, but we're still opened up. We seem to just be continuing to move forward with our heads in the sand, just moving forward regardless. what would it take for that to change, you think,

or is there any hope of that changing? Like, is there a number we could hit that would make it fucking make a difference? And I mean, as long as, for most of the rest of this winter, Donald Trump will still be the president. A lame duck president, but still, he'll still be the president for most of the rest of this winter. So is it just going to run rampant, run wild,

because he can't be arced to give a fuck about it? or what is going to happen. Yeah. I mean, it's kind of funny because, I mean, it's not funny, but if he really, if he really did want to win in 2024, he should be passing huge bailout bill right now and send everybody, he should have to the Treasury to Males off $2,000. Absolutely. I mean, why not?

But, yeah, I mean, it's got to, what should have to happen is they should send everybody a couple weeks pay and we all stay home. I mean, actually stay home this time, not like the 40% lockdown that we had where like professional class people like us work from home while people bring us stuff and be pecking plants were still operating and, you know, some stuff still open and it's never, as much people complain about lockdowns, we've been living, we've been living in like this lukewarm hell for a while where it's just like we didn't actually do it. And so we're suffering for it. And I don't know how we change anything. I mean, Trump doesn't have the attention span

and try to govern anymore. He barely had it to begin with and out of his loss. He just feels bad humiliated and he's not doing shit. Mike Pence went on vacation. He's in Florida. The chair of the coronavirus

task force. Lazy fucks, man. The party of personal responsibility and hard work is the laziest sex that I've ever seen in the life. So related to that, what kind of, Joe Biden and his administration

are not going to be able to even attempt to do anything or even get started on doing anything until inauguration day, right? Because I'm talking about the transition. They're very actively obstructing it so far. A large number of high-level Republicans have also said that that shouldn't be the case that, you know, Biden should have access to these security briefings and stuff, which is how transitions normally work.

But that's not what they're doing so far. And I imagine they won't do it the entire time. So pretty much there's not going to be a transition. It's going to come down to inauguration day. And then Joe Biden's just going to come in from ground zero, basically, the day after, because Trump will make it the case. That's one upside of Biden's team, as they've been in the executive branch before. They already know where the light switches and the bathrooms are.

Right. And how to staff the government. So it's not like, it's not elected a straight up senator who wouldn't have any idea how to be an executive. So that's one upside. That would be inviting. It's just like this is all just so depressing, man. First of all, all the people that COVID would disappear the day after the election, take a fucking battle. Yeah.

We have had record cases every day this week. Between November 1st and November 11th, cases doubled from 75 to 150. Hospitals are already at capacity. It's everywhere. There are no spare doctors to move around like people from people. from all over the country went to New York to help out when they had it real bad one in 1,500 people in South Dakota is in the hospital with COVID right um uh Utah's complained about how other hospitals over capacity doctors without borders is sending help to America

they usually help you know state um the only good of COVID news besides we haven't talked about that do we talk about the vaccine on Tuesday no no so if you i'm sure you guys have heard about it but with the vaccine front because he weren't even sure that we could have a vaccine, but it looks like it's definitely possible and it's effective. And it's the type of vaccine that everyone is working on. So it's possible we'll have like eight or 10 versions of an effective vaccine in the coming months. And they're hoping to have 25 to a few million doses to be able to roll out before the end of year. All that's very good. All right. The other bit of COVID news that's good is Jared and Ivanka had their kid to take their kids out of school after all other parents told them to fuck off because they weren't playing out.

So I'm not happy. I feel bad for their kids, but yeah. Yeah. Just like they, I mean, Jared and Ivanka are stupid, but they're not that stupid. They've been not wearing a mask on camera to try to make Trump look tough and not like a hypocrite, right? Yeah. So their kids have lost access to school. schooling so they could stroke their dad's ego.

Yeah, somehow I feel like those kids will be just fine one way or another. I'm not saying they'll get a good education, depending on how you define good, but I'm sure they'll be just fine. Matt, if you're able to, buddy, start throwing some comments up there and let's see what we can get to here. This may be a larger conversation, but while Matt's looking through him, I wanted to ask Mark where you stand on the high road debate. Actually, hang on, we'll see.

James Farley says, people don't want a shutdown, but also won't wear a mask. How the hell do we get a handle on this otherwise? I mean, I'm not a doctor, but I don't think that's possible. It's got to be one or the other or both, and there's no other way to do it. if so we appear to be the best and worst of both worlds because if COVID was more serious people would take it more seriously right if it was it is very serious but I'm saying if it was like if

toddlers drop dead of it people would be yeah yeah it appears to be that that that right on the nose of being bad enough or most people don't want to get it but not bad enough where idiots won't still go to Daytona beach right right so um But I guess that it's good that the death rates down to under one. You know, they've done a good job of cutting the death rate. The early intervention treatments are doing better. So that's good. But like the problem is people don't want to get sick, even if you tell them it's only like a double flu.

Nobody wants to get the fucking flu either. We just got, we get flu shots every year because we don't want to get the flu. So telling people to go to Dave and Busters because they're only going to get a flu is the sales pitch you think it is. So I don't mean, I don't think there's anything that can be done this point. There's no there's no there's no posse coming over the horizon. The cavalry's not coming, right? So be safe out there.

Dancer question about high road stuff, Trey. Yeah. I lump all this stuff in with like the election was just called five days ago. People have been waiting four years to get their jokes off. They're getting jokes. So I lumped it in with all the, the, all the yelling about cancer culture, most of the yelling about cancel culture stuff and whatever. It's like being made fun of and teased is not. violence.

You're adults. You can give out and take a little bit of being. 100%. Just, yeah. No, I'm with you.

It's like we're not, we're not fucking persecuting them or anything. We're taking a victory lap. Fuck them. They don't like the whole past four years has been a victory lap for them. Like they don't,

you know, like they made shirts that said they'd rather be Russian than liberal and shit like that. And like they don't, ah, just miss me with that shit, man. Like they've had a completely different approach to it. But yeah, you're right.

Just like enjoying a victory is not the same thing as like actively trying to fuck up their way of life, which by the way, they were doing on their side if you are, you know, black or a minority or anything like that, you know, then they were actively fucking up your day-to-day life, which we're not in any way doing. No one's coming for their goddamn guns. None of that shit is happening. fucking Ben Shapiro was talking about how people were being uncivil to him. He literally sold mugs on his website that said liberal tears on it. So you could drink out of a liberal tears month.

Right. Exactly. Yes. All right. Mark, this one's for you, Mark. Ron Gilchreast asked, what are your thoughts about Trump's moves at the Pentagon? Well, so he fired the Defense Secretary. Mark Esper, forget his first name,

and it's the oilist and he fired, he put Devin Nunes' old chief of staff, who was working for the National Security Council and his deputy, Undersecretary for Intelligence or whatever, they just did some reshuffling. So it depends what you ask. If you ask, you know,

liberal Twitter, it's 100% a coup, right? They're going to order tanks in the streets, which that's not, I don't think that's going to happen. And then you ask the Trump supporting nationalist right, it's like, like Alex Jones, thinks that it's because Esper Woodney in the war in Afghanistan and Trump's bringing all the troops home by Christmas, which he may or may not do because, I mean, thank you if you do, but, but the third thing that people suggested is that all the intelligence records for whatever happened in Ukraine and all that shit. Like, that's what the Nunes,

Nunes's former secretary is going to obsess with trying to like with controlling. So it might be deleting some records of doing some cover up shit for intelligence. That middle theory, about oh what he's doing is he's trying to get all the troops home by Christmas. Like you said, thank you if you do. That would be wonderful. That's so, I just literally straight up cannot believe that that would be, that ultimately it would be an altruistic Christmas spirit move

from Donald Trump's administration. If that happens, my mind will be fucking blown. The rest of those, though, I could see. I need to prep for this by saying, I can't stand anything about the dude, but he, but he there was a story that came out like a year ago. And then with a framing was Trump dangerously wanted to leave Afghanistan. So the whole national security team brought him to the Pentagon, you know, put him back foot in a place where he's not

empowered to have the would do one of those power boom meeting things where they calmly explain to him why they needed to stay in Iraq and Afghanistan. And he was like he's basically been ordered him to figure out ways to leave for three and a half years. Yeah. And I'm Um, it was presented as like this dangerous dummy won't listen to experts. But if the president has been telling you to do something for three and a half years and you're just right, that's fucking dangerous, right? That's about the D.C. They're saying to do it.

Like Obama or tried to close Gitmo for eight years and couldn't get one single prison closed. Yeah. So I mean, it, I'm not, we fucked up by electing him, but he was president. If he tells the war, says the war should end. It's, should end, right? Uh, I mean. I wish the wars would end, but at the same time, I'm like, I feel like I'd be hypocritical because I'm the same guy that's like,

if Trump wanted to nuke fucking wherever, nuke China, I would be like, oh, they can't let him do. I know he's the president, because you know, the president has the full carte blanche authority to just nuke whoever. That's how it works. And the old time, I've been like, well, they can't, I know he's the president, but they can't let him do that. which I do believe by the way

but I guess I'm just saying because I feel that way about it it's hard for me to sit here and be like yeah he's the president if he thinks it it should happen if he thinks it for long enough despite the fact that the subject at hand is something

that I agree with you about no yeah but like the thing is if you're a patriotic martyr would you do is you stand up and take your lump so you make your case publicly right that's what that's the thing that sucks I mean Edward Stodin lost a lot

credibility about fleeing to Russia, right? So like there are people like the guy who stole the Pentagon papers. Like people have done patriotic sedition before. You know, if Trump orders you to launch a nuke and you think it's the wrong move, you stand up and say, no, sir, I will not do that. And then you go to go testify in front of Congress to make a case. Right. So like, if Mark Esper doesn't want to leave Afghanistan, he can resign in protest, and go testify in public about why. But this is not the way to do it, you know what I'm saying? Yeah.

And I mean, you said there's a guy, a Russian guy, I just Googled it because I remember hearing it before. His name's Stanislav Petrov, who no one knows that name, but this dude might have literally saved the entire world. Thank you, Governor. Yes, because it was a situation like we were just saying, he basically got, as far as he was concerned, he got in order to launch nuclear weapons, to basically

start World War III and just decided to dismiss them as a false alarm, which they were, but he had no way, he had no way of knowing that. But he just did it because he refused to end the entire world.

And this, all of Trump's presidency I've hoped that whoever is in the equivalent position for our government would do, the same thing if Donald Trump tried to nuke the world because I've been very afraid that he would nuke the world or attempt to. So

yeah, it happens. So I don't even remember the story a couple years ago about the Air Force guys who were in charge and manning our nuclear missile silos got caught cheating on their tests to get approved to get in their jobs and being drunk on duty. So I'm saying

is we might be doing a worse job maintaining our nuclear arms operations, women doing worse than a failed Soviet state. They still run on old MS docks. Like, they use floppy bits in our nuclear fucking weapons systems. Yes, no, you're right. Yeah. Just because it's like that's how it was when it started and why change anything.

That's the way we've always done stuff. It'd be hard. Mark, it would be hard to change that stuff. Anyway, Robert Ria or Raya says, the orange stained king is going to burn the place down if he can. Yes, I wouldn't put it past him, but I also think it's possible that he'll just, like, be dejected enough to just kind of,

and also he's so incompetent in so many ways, that he might just kind of fuck off in his sadness, without successfully pulling off any kind of hugely detrimental coup-type maneuver before he does. Not that he wouldn't. Not that I put it past him. I just think that, you know,

we might be able to avoid that. I mean, the level of Trump's operating at is petty scams. That's what he does is what he knows, right? It's what he's good at. So like installing himself as a dictator with a patchman fan base is not really a wheelhouse. What isn't his wheelhouse is say installing loyalists to the defense department so he can fast track weapons sales to friendly regimes whose governments are going to loan him money after he invest in his properties. He's out of office. That makes more sense than other stuff.

Like they just like they just sold a bunch of high level weapons to Yemen, I think. No, sorry, to Qatar to using Yemen. that whole peace deal that was a couple weeks ago essentially was just a cover for this and so if you told me that you told me he told me the DODs run tanks out in the streets

to keep up an office and that's probably not happening but if you told me there's some stealth bombers to Azerbaijan to us they can finish genocide in Armenia I'd be like yeah that sounds about that okay yeah since you brought it up because I'll admit my ignorance up top of it here and leave that up there Matt I'll get to in just a second

but you said your top you said the peace deal the recent peace deals were just like a cover for making these big arms sales in Yemen or whatever because I've seen I have seen people on the internet conservatives on the internet tried to make like a reasoned argument for Trump prior to the election and one of them had to do with his like resume in the Middle East like we've got unprecedented peace deals he's bringing troops home and whatnot and I don't have I have a million other arguments against him but as far as that one goes I don't really have much to say

but I'm not surprised to hear that it's just a cover for some military contractor profit pocket lining stuff. But you're saying that's what it was? Yeah, they opened some direct flights between like Jerusalem and the UAE. It means like it's there's some like opening trade stuff. I don't see how selling weapons to maybe it makes them feel safer relative to Israel because Israel has a very strong military. I don't have that. But all this step is like, anybody that tells you anything about the Middle East, you can just ignore it because nothing makes sense.

Right. Yeah. It's a serious, like, an eight-sided shooting war with a mix of 40 different alliances and we're partnered with both sides against the middle. So, like, nothing makes sense. Scott Bryan says, Cohen, I assume that's Michael Cohen, predicts he leaves for Christmas and doesn't return. I hadn't heard that, but it wouldn't surprise me if he went, what does leaves mean? Like, like, Mara Lago? Because if you went to Mara Lago tomorrow and didn't come back, it wouldn't surprise me at all, you know?

Yeah. Also, like, you know, who's going to do the fucking Christmas at the White House? Because it's not going to be Melania, Mark. She's not doing the fucking Christmas. Not this year. Someone else can do the fucking Christmas. Let Joe Biden do the fucking Christmas. Oh, they won't let her in the door.

I don't care. let the she has Mexicans, right? Let her Mexicans do the fucking Christmas. You know, so. Do you see the First Lady's office? They put out their Christmas announcement. They literally said

this is, please come enjoy him. First Lady Melania Trump's final Christmas in the White House. It's like, so Melania's conceded. Really? No, I didn't see that. I'm not at all surprised by that, though. There's so many great clips out there of Melania.

This is not me taking Melania. aside in any way because she also wore the jacket that says, I don't give a fuck to you. It's not what it said, but it is what it said. So fuck her. But there's so many great clips out there of her, like, just not fucking with Trump at all. Like,

him just trying to hold her hand or whatever, and she don't want nothing to do with it. She's so clearly disgusted by him, but that's what you get when you marry a fucking rich orange toad. God damn it, you know, it's your own fault, but still, I enjoy them. She had her own money. It was the

Not as much as him, obviously, or whatever access to the credit he has. But, like, the dude must be charming. One-on-one? Well, dude, he, man, I don't, like, it's a specific type of charm that works on specific type of person or something. Because I'm clearly immune to it because I could not be more revolted by him. But, dude, he's charmed the fucking pants off of millions of people in this country and around the world, including people who, and I've talked about this before, I would have never believed in a million years

would be Donald Trump fans. But he, you know, he got him. Have you ever seen... Oh, Kathy Ma'am says, Trey, you're such a great Melania. Well, thank you very much. I appreciate that, yes. Have you seen that... Have you ever seen a picture of her dad, Trey?

Melania's dad? No. I just don't want to mad if you can throw it up. He looks a lot like Trump. So she might have some daddy... Oh, my God. yeah no i'd never seen that before but you have fucked me up with this because yeah you're right he does well that's unfortunate for the world they're about i think i think they're about the same age too so you got something going on all right well i'm still having fun out here in america

they ain't they ain't fucked everything up just yet so we'll uh we'll see what they do between now and next have for this edition of Evening Skews, but we'll be back next week and we'll continue having a good time. So I'm Trey, that's Mark. Give it up for producer Matt, everybody. And see y'all. See y'all soon. Well, you love you by.