wellRED podcast - Evening Skews - Week of November 17, 2020

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Here we are. Welcome back everybody. Today's Tuesday. November 17th, 2020. I'm Trey Crowder. That's Mark Adjue. What's up, Mark? Trey, happy day 14 of election day.

That's right. And here we are. We're still alive. As always, we've got producer Matt behind the scenes, pulling the strings for y'all. And this is Evening Skews. We've got a great show for you tonight. We're going to have a status update on Trump's increasingly futile attempt to litigate away the truth slash deny Joe Biden, the White House. How's it going? Not going great. We'll get into the details shortly.

We're also going to talk about the very bold, apparent strategy of the, very bold, apparent strategy of the, American GOP when it comes to combating what they view as election fraud. What is that strategy? Well, as far as we can tell, it seems to be, doing election fraud. So let's talk about that. We're also going to have a wonderful conversation with our good buddy fellow comedian and rant into the void er, Mr. Brent, Turhune, all that and more on evening skews tonight. But first, as always, we begin with the Daily, dumbassery. Matt, roll that graphic. So tonight's a little bit different in that we have. We have, a whole lot of honorees at once, a whole lot of people clumped together, but not nearly as many as they would have you believe. I'm talking about, of course, tonight's Daily Dumbasses, every attendee of this past weekend's million MAGA March.

A misnomer, if ever there was one, first of all, as we've all since found out, nowhere close to a million people. Secondly, as we've all known for four years and counting, they do the opposite of MAGA. and thirdly the event was less of a march and more of a stumbling, bumbling, bumbling, red-faced, out-of-breath, waddle of denial. There's a lot of dumb things about the Million Maga March.

One of my favorites is summed up by this picture. Matt, if you can throw that picture up there. Yeah, they're not above making pop culture references like the rest of us. This one is a reference to Amazon original series. The Boys! Me and Mark happen to be super fans of this super show. But in case you don't know much about it, Mark, please explain what is so stupid about that picture.

The show is a satire of fascism, like a better way to put it, and America's dissented into sort of pseudo-corporate Christian fascism. And the main bad guy is a guy named Homelander, who's essentially an evil Superman, who that person is dressed as as Donald Trump. So the person, somebody watched the show, liked it, didn't give a satire, didn't know who the good guy was, made Trump the bad guy and thought he was the hero.

So it's pretty much a true duck in a fucking dumbassery. Anyway, watch the show. It's good. Right. Well, it's funny. Like, it's so, they are so on the nose so often without realizing it, you know? Because, again, if you watch a show without spoiling any, like, specific plot points, he's supposed to be this ultra-American, like, pitch-perfect patriot superhero, right?

is Cape is an American flag, but really, he's a fucking monster. So, like, too, obviously all of us know that Trump is not the perfect all-American leader, but they think he is. So them posing Trump as Homelander actually completely totally fucking works. It's just that we know that they don't mean it that way. Like, they just mean it straight up as he is awesome. You know, it's completely lost on them the layers of hilarity surrounding it. I mean, on the show, Homelander's a rapist.

Yeah, and more. All he's all kinds of things. Yeah. Like bad things. But this is America where murdering people is objectively cool, right? We love killing people. Right? What this is.

Right, but well, again, I mean, Donald Trump and the pussy grabbing and stuff. Like, you have women, women at Trump rallies with shirts on that say things. like Trump grabbed my vote and I liked it. You know, like it's, again, it's all, it all fits other than Trump being a sorry fat sack of shit and homelander being an Adonist. But outside of that, most of the rest of it plays. It's just that they don't realize the degree to which it plays. I know that a lot of pop culture is not for them because artists tend to be a giant

communist, right? But it's just like there's this phenomenon. and we talked about a YMCA where YMCA is not for conservatives. They love that. I don't know if we showed the video, but we were talking about it amongst ourselves. The one of the, I think it was the Philly protests where these Trump supporters are dancing

and singing along to killing in the name of, right? Which is raging against the machine song. It has like a total four lyrics all about how about cops or racist murders. And this woman is dancing in the middle street screaming not even like fuck you won't do what you tell me which is like the lyric most people don't know but it's the

lyric about those those that workforces that some of them burn crosses or whatever about cops being racist she's screaming that the middle of the street while wearing a blue lives matter flag all right just doesn't get anything like no

like even just the net that's one of those that like I don't know how you can know anything about the thing itself and not understand that it don't make that it ain't for you if you're a bootlicking Trump supporter and what I mean is like the name of the bank rage against the machine what machine do they think is being raged against I guess the media the lame stream media fake news that's the machine that should be raised against how do they

interpret the line some of those who work forces are the same who burn crosses what does that mean in their brains they just don't hear that What do they, what do they hear, Mark? Like, I don't get none of this, man. How does any of this work? There's only, like, three different lyrics that song shouted over and over again. I remember the, I got the one she was screaming over and over again wrong.

She was doing those who died or justified for wearing the badge. They're the chosen whites. I don't know how you hear that. Oh, okay. All right. But it's like, it's like, she hears that. She's like, well, yeah, they're the chosen whites. Yes.

I mean, actually, when you put it that, way, you know, like if they, like if they somehow only, it's just like with them in like Bible verses, they just cherry pick that one part while ignoring the entirety of the context surrounding it and the rest of the song. Yeah. I mean, hell, I guess it kind of does make sense. But you can't do that though. You can't, you got to listen to the whole song. The band's entire au revoir, Mark, Mark, is not, not that. It's like the Bible verse right before like two verses, before the one of Leviticus about how man should not lie with man. The verse goes something about how if your brother dies, you're obligated to get his wife pregnant

unless she gives you a shoe and some ceremony. And why can't you get that one instead of the game? Right. I want to do a shoe ceremony, man. Come on. All right. So going back to the Million Mega March for a second, like we said, been hotly debated, hotly debated the actual number of people who showed up.

Kaylee McAnanana went on Twitter and said it was over. over a million people. It's called the million Magamarch. I don't care who you are. It's nowhere close to a million. But the estimates do range though from like, what I consider to be reasonable estimates from something like five, six thousand

to like 12,000 to 15,000 at the upper limit. Is that? I think the park service one was 12,000. 12,000. Far cry from a million. So I feel like you may wonder, especially if you're a Trump supporter, you may wonder like, how is that possible?

How did we fall so incredibly short of the goal here when it comes to attendance. Well, former, Delbert creator, former comic strip extraordinaire, Scott Adams, has a theory about how they fell so short.

And we're going to show you the clip, but I want to say, as a preamble, before we show the clip, that Mark and I have a bit of a differing opinion on exactly how to interpret this clip. But with that said, Matt, if you could play Mr. Delbert's explanation, for the million mag of March, that would be...

There was a million mega march yesterday in D.C. I don't know that they hit the million mark. Might have been closer to it, 10,000, something like that. Still a lot of people. But I feel as though there may have been three to five million people there. And I say that just because a lot of Trump supporters like to wear camouflage gear. so I don't know if they're going to show up on photographs. Could be, there were 10,000 people who weren't wearing camouflage gear,

and that's all we could see in the photographs. So, you know, could be wrong. There was a million, million, MacMarch. All right. I don't know who should go first here, but like, look, I was already somehow aware that the Dilbert guy, because, you know, I mean, I'm not a huge, Dilbert fan, but hell, I used to like

Dilbert. Dilbert was fine. And I've since become aware that the Dilbert guy's a big magad dude and whatever. I knew that already. But let me just say, I'm not trying to like go out of my way to defend this dude. I genuinely believe that that

was a joke. But he doesn't, he's a comic strip guy. He's not a stand-on-stage comedian. His delivery is off. Plus also he's part of a group of people that are not known for their like, you know, prowess when it comes to self-awareness or sarcasm, and I get all of that. But, dude, even considering how dumb they be, that has to be a joke, man.

That has to be a joke that was just like not delivered as good as it could have been, delivered a little too dryly or something. Yeah, I mean, we didn't agree about this over the weekend, but after rewatching it several times, I'll come around to your viewpoint. I do think maybe he was joking, but he's been a dumbass for so long. I just don't want to let him up the hook for it. Do you know what I'm saying?

Right. Well, and that's the thing. It's like, but that's what happens. That's what I'm saying. That's what happens when you are part of a cohort known for that level of dumbassery. You know what I mean?

Like people aren't going to know that you're joking. On one of our last episodes we put up, and I'm not even saying he was joking, but one of our last episodes we put up that clip of Pompeo talking about, yeah, it'll be a totally seamless transition into the next Donald Trump administration. And it's like, was that a winking thing?

Was he just like being like, but it's impossible to know because it's impossible to ever tell when these people are being serious. It's like segueing a little bit into the next topic, you've been sending me all kinds of like snippets from the court proceedings with Rudy Giuliani in Pennsylvania and Donald Trump's like election fraud cases there. And they seem,

fake. Like they're so stupid. They seem like jokes, but those are not jokes. So like, how do you ever know? What isn't is not a joke? But I do think that Dr. Dilbert here, who again, fuck him aside, I think this was a joke.

I think the main lesson here in my personal life, I try to give everybody, extend everyone the benefit of the doubt constantly because it's just a healthier way to live than to assume everyone's trying to harm you or hurt you or is out to give you or it means to insult you. but these people have been arguing in bad faith for so long.

I just don't want to give them any, I'm not giving them to doubt anymore. So fuck them. Every stupid thing you say, I'm not making excuses for it. Right. I mean, yeah. No, I agree with that completely. Yes, that's what happens when you operate the way they have for this amount of time, you know. So, I mean, yeah, no, I'm totally with you on that.

So as I sort of teed up, let's talk about Trump in Pennsylvania or just around. Trump is now 1 and 25 in his post-election lawsuits. One in 25. He's reaching Hugh Jackson levels when he coached the Cleveland Browns. They were 1 and 31 and 1 after two seasons there, and Trump is approaching that. He's approaching Cleveland Brown's level of futility. Here's the thing about that record is like one of the losses was an appeal of the win.

So either 1 or 0 and 24, depending on how you want to count it. And the way Giuliani's hearing went today, I bet you it's about tomorrow there'll be either one for 26 or 0 for 25. But like, isn't it? I remember even like in the heat of the election, like I think on election night, they filed their first lawsuit.

Yeah. And it was, so I remember it being sort of accepted. It was like, oh, they're just, they're throwing shit at the wall, whatever they can litigiously to see what, to see what sticks, just to try to gum up the work some or whatever, right? So like, of course, you know, none of them are working out.

They were never well-founded to begin with. They lost one of the, they lost to suit a court case today, five to two at the Pennsylvania Supreme Court. But five to do doesn't sum it up because five people found against the Trump campaign. Two people said they wouldn't, the two dissenters were saying they wouldn't even have taken the case. And then one of the dissenters said if they had decided the case, they would have ruled against them on the merits, not understanding with the five. So they faced him with 0 for 3 in one court case.

Right. And again, how bad is it? Well, let's just get it straight from the horse's mouth. This is one of Trump's Pennsylvania lawyers, one of his central lawyers in the state of Pennsylvania, on his own radio show, talking about the cases. Mack, you play that the cliff. Twitter, in my opinion, there really are no bombshells

that are about to drive. drop that will derail a Biden presidency, including these lawsuits. And I really don't want to get into a discussion on any of these pending lawsuits filed by the Trump campaign or the state GOPs. And I will say that some of them have merit, certainly like the lawsuits filed by our Pennsylvania Republican Party, led by our great Chairman Lawrence Tavis. Several of the other lawsuits don't seem to have much evidence of substantiating their claims. And yeah. Oh, yeah. And at the, at the, at the, at the, at the, at the, at the, at the, at the, at the,

shit, what, he says, I don't think it's, God damn it. We had a quote earlier. He says, uh, at the very end of that, he says, I don't think it's going to work out. Basically or something like, he's like just straight up says it ain't, it ain't going to happen. The important takeaway was before this guy was on Trump's payroll, he was saying. court like some of these cases might have some narrow merits on a few ballots here or there or like election rules but none of them rise to any sort of level that they're going to overturn the

election like not even remotely close like they're arguing like one of the cases about was about excluding two mail imbalance right so like i think biden's up by 60 000 votes in infestimating it so another thing that's happened in pennsylvania is he's had trouble holding on to lawyers there i assume because no one wants to work a case that they cannot win No one except Mark for Rudy Giuliani, who has become Trump's point man in Pennsylvania, the only one who will step up to the plate and fight for the president. And that's what I was saying earlier when I was saying you were sending me all these like quotes regarding Giuliani that seem fake.

They're so stupid and funny. Here's one of them. Update. This is a quote from Dan Zach on Twitter. Update from U.S. District Court in Williamsport, Pennsylvania. one of the Trump campaign's last stance. Rudy Giuliani, I'm not sure what opacity means.

It probably means you can see. Judge Brand, it means you can't. That's funny because that's not even like a legal term. That's just a regular vocabulary. But like for lawyer, like our buddy Drew, we're joking around like like,

so there's a legal term called strict scrutiny has to do with like how to apply constitutional law, right? So the judge, Judge Brand is guys, and he was like, what standard review should apply in this case? Giuliani says the normal one. Judge says, are you saying the strict scrutiny should apply?

And Giuliani goes, no, I'm asking for normal level of scrutiny. Normal scrutiny is not a fucking legal term. Right, yeah. That is too much scrutiny. I'm saying if we could we could just lower the scrutiny dial a little bit. Giuliani is also, during the course of this, claimed publicly to be a member in good standing of the DC Bar, which has been disproven. soundly by the DC Bar's

fucking website information available to anybody. Like, it's all just so farcical, man. So, so Giuliani tried to, they tried to ask, basically try to verbally file a motion and the judge

snapped at him and said, you should write this down. That's what lawyers do. They write. The whole thing was a fucking clown show. And I wish we could communicate the level of humor from this. But like, it's hard to translate without like having a bow ton of yellow all degree. Yes, but also it, Giuliani, total clown show,

the whole thing's a clown show, but especially everything involving Giuliani and Pennsylvania in the current pending case. Mark, tell the people how much you got to pay to get that level of clown show on your side. What's the going rate for a clown like Rudy Giuliani

to represent you in a farce? Trey, he is charging the Trump campaign, i.e. Trump's stupid donors are getting conged. $20,000 a day. $20,000 a day. He showed up. Insulted to your face by the judge and make a laughing stock of the entire profession in front of the world.

$20,000 a day. This is a guy who made his rep. Like, first of the way, showed to court not carrying a briefcase. He didn't even, he didn't stay. Obviously, he didn't prepare it all. He didn't bring any papers. He had no idea what he was going to do. He was arguing stuff in the briefs that had already been like that when the campaign refiled,

they basically surrendered on some stuff. It's called Red Line. They basically strike out parts of the brief that they don't want to argue anymore. And he, forgive me lawyers watching. I'm not I'm stressing this wrong. But he was still arguing points that already conceded on because he was way behind the case. He's just like doing, like, because basically the dynamics been happening is what the Trump campaign says on TV is like flagrant bullshit. What they put in court papers is ground in reality

because judges don't respond to like cable news talking points. But he was trying to do cable news talking points in the courtroom and it did not go well. And this is the guy who made his bones, his reputation, destroying the mafia. Taking down the mob, yeah, right. Which I know he took credit for all the FBI's work and some politicians do and he might not have had that much to do with it.

But let's take him as word of him know that he's single-handedly defeated the Italian mob. By the way, his dad worked for the mafia. Let's take it as word. how fucking stupid it makes the supremaculate look super accurate about how fucking dumb those guys were right yeah um so if you're wondering how they could possibly afford to pay and i know no one is wondering this but if you're wondering how they could possibly afford to pay rudy juliani twenty thousand dollars a day well it's because of all the

american patriots out there who are doing their part and helping out in uh helping the president defend himself against the scourge of election fraud what am i talking about well the official election defense fund if you go to don't Trump's website, you, American Patriot, can get the opportunity to donate to the crucial mission of defending the election. So here's what it says.

I'm reading this straight from Donald Trump's website. President Trump needs you, you is in all capital letters, to step up to make sure we have the resources to protect the integrity of the election. For a short time only, all caps

here. All gifts are 1,000% matched. This part is underlined and in bold and in caps. Please contribute any amount immediately to the official election defense fund to claim your 1,000% match. If you're wondering what that means, it means nothing. I know that there is a way to do that math, but there's no math here. This is literally just a thing they put on there. And you could Google, pretty much every reputable source says it's literally just a thing they say like whatever you donate we'll match it a thousand percent match it from where from who for what you know it's all just like yeah straight up

literal lies and real quick here's what happens if you look further down the form you fill out your name you click the amount you want you fill out your information and then there's two other very important paragraphs that says this is a message of president trump the democrats want to steal this election There's fraud like you've never seen. We need your help, right? A whole paragraph. But this also is a checkbox that you can either select or deselect, but it's automatically selected.

And at the bottom of this paragraph in fine print, it says, please make this a weekly recurring donation until December 14th. So if you don't go out of your way to uncheck that box, whatever amount you put in, they will take out every. every single week until December 14th. It's this like, it's like this is, did they get the girls gone wild guy to run their election defense fund site?

Like this is fucking the most blatantly grifty bullshit. I can imagine and they just lap it up, you know, because they get to be, they get to be in the Trump 100 club or be joined the first family circle if they donate enough money and shit like that. It's fucking absurd. Yeah, it's the Columbia House, uh, 10, 10 CDs for a penny of a, but like like 60% of the money is going to like in Trump to

to, uh, to pay off campaign debts, which were incurred renting Trump property. So it's basically going on base going in Trump's pocket. Like if you want to know they don't believe their own bullshit, it's that they're not using this to actually using the funds to actually contest anything. They're just paying themselves. Um, it says it says that on the page too again in the fine print at the bottom. It's like the first 60% or whatever goes to relieving the campaign's debt like Mark just said. And then if there's anything left, and that's up to 2,800. So if you donate, basically, if you donate less than 2,800, none of it is actually going to the election advance funds, which is a completely erroneous usage for it anyway, obviously.

Yeah, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, is supporters and guys are paying for legal bills to overturn the election or paying off that credit card. Yeah, so in about five minutes, we got Mr. Brent Thurhune coming on here. So before then, let's get into some of this fraud versus fraud stuff. So obviously, the Republicans are alleging just wanton, rampant voter fraud, election fraud in this country. And it seems like what they're doing to prove their point lately is committing a little bit of election fraud themselves. In particular, Mr. Lindsay Graham, who is essentially trying to bully.

the Secretary of State of Georgia into just straight up throwing votes out if they come from the wrong place and then acting like he didn't do that. And if he did do that, it was fine and all this silly bullshit. What's this all about, Mark? So he called up Georgia's Secretary of State, who is a Republican, by the way. And he was never thought of as a soft Republican. He won, he won his seat in a heavily jerrymandered election. I mean, I heavily like voter suppressed election. He has no problem with voter suppression. But the problem with voting with voter suppression is you do it in advance the election

and you use some legal cover for it. You don't throw votes in the backhand, right? So Lindsey Graham called him up and apparently on the telephone, asked him what the rules were as far as like if some signatures hadn't been verified or a couple ballots, could you hypothetically throw out every mail-in ballot for that jurisdiction? Yeah. So that's what he was trying to, he was trying to talk to Secretary of State into doing and the guy told him to fuck off.

And I got to, like, even though I wouldn't, I wouldn't agree with this guy about anything in normal time, I admire. Brad Raffensberger is his name, by the way. Brad Raffensberger. He stood tall and got some pretty fucking off the pressure, including death threats that the president's chinned up against him and some meat.

This is the guy the president loved on Twitter until this week, right? He'd always be on Twitter. Yeah, like you said, he's very much a, a, like, classic 2020 American, Southern American Republican. He's a Brian Kemp. type dude, Brad Raffinsferger, the Secretary of State in Georgia,

but he ain't having none of this bullshit. And I mean, yeah, you've got to respect that, in my opinion. So then people, the Secretary of State fucking put him on blast in the newspaper, saying this asshole is trying to give me to do massive election fraud to save Trump's ass. And Lindsey Graham's cover story was, no, actually, as I say, as the chairman of the Intelligence Committee,

a sitting senator, I just have a really concern with election. fraud. So I've also called the Secretaries of State for Nevada, in Nebraska, and Arizona. And then one of the secretaries is, like, this is the lie. He didn't call me. His story is rapidly falling apart. So, um, hey, Matt, can you show up this screen grab from the Graham exchange for the reporter? Uh, it made me laugh because it's funny. Um, it's the one, uh, it, uh, shit.

Hang on. Here, here, my, I'm going to send you the link real quick, Matt. but also I want to say, Mark, quickly, tell them about the thing where it seems like they suppressed their own winning votes in Georgia. And then we'll circle back to this link. I just sent you, Matt. So the Secretary of State is on a war pack because Donald Trump's made his life a living hell. And he made the point that, like, there were 24,000 registered Georgia Republicans who voted in the primary but did not vote in general. And that's very strange behavior because people have voted in primaries are more committed voters than people who vote in general elections. especially in presidential years, right?

So he was making the point that these 24,000 people, unless they died between the primary election day, the most logical conclusion is the president talked them out of thinking their vote will be counted if they mailed it in and they just didn't go vote. He lost the election by, mind you, by about 14,000 votes in Georgia. So basically, by running his mouth, he fucking lost Georgia. And that's just endlessly funny to me. All right. So this is an exchange between Lindsey Graham and a reporter on this whole subject we've been talking about.

If you can throw that up there, Matt. So after getting caught lying about secretaries of state, here's a common secretary of state. Here's what a reporter asked him. I'll just read it to it. You don't know. I don't know. I, yeah, shit, hang on. Here we go, here we go.

Question. Why is a senator from South Carolina calling the Secretary of State of Georgia anyway? Graham. There it is. Graham, because the future of their country hangs in the balance. Question. Does it though? I just remember it fucking made me laugh. I love any version of

does it though or is it though or whatever. Like I just, there's almost no example of that that doesn't hit for me when people give it. My bias right now in favor of anyone who dials down the temperature of rhetoric because like it doesn't, nothing's really

this high stakes? I mean, it's high takes to get Trump out, but in normal politics, it's like, does the future of the republic hang in the balance? Trump doesn't even win the election if he gets Georgia. So none of this fucking matters. All right. Well, it's about that time. We've got a guest for y'all tonight.

We love this guy. Again, I'm sure a lot of y'all know him and loving too, or perhaps despise him depending on how good you are at reading sarcasm and irony and the like. This man is a fellow comedian from the great state of Indiana and is known around the interwebs for his hilarious rant videos but they're a little different than the way I do it let's just show you guys an example

this is Brent Terhue doing his thing play that video man if we have it you know I'm getting a bunch of calls and text so I figured it'd just be easier to jump on Facebook and let everybody know but I'm fine thanks for asking Um, yes, that was my boat that went down on Lake Travis during the Trump boat parade. And I, I don't know what happened. I just think we had too many maga flags on the boat. I never thought I'd say that, but we had too many maga flags on the boat. The wind picked up.

The current shifted. Couldn't tell it was port and what was starboard. A bunch of other nautical terms happened. One thing led to another and I was in the water and I turned around. She was gone. The SS Magaritaville is gone and I love that boat. She was my personality and then flags would be lower to half mass tonight if they hadn't been lower to the bottom of the lake earlier today.

They had to fight to get me out because if I'm not going to wear a mask, I'm damn sure not going to wear that life jacket. They kept throwing at me. I just kept saying leave me. leave me I'm gonna go down with her obviously I'm I'm here I'm safe I'm on dry land and I'm still going down with the ship so I just wanted to hey guys what's up brother how's you guys can you guys hear me okay yeah yeah yeah okay cool right dog I'm well thanks for having me absolutely thank you for being here so um

You know, I think that video is a great example. I think of like, now obviously to me, it is and has always been obvious what you're doing with your videos. But I actually think you do a really good job of like, I don't know, tow in the line just enough to successfully fool a whole lot of people, which you have always done and continue to do. Am I right? Yeah, it's surprising every, some, you know, every video there's, there's like, if I'm talking about cartoon characters getting their guns taken in Disney cartoons or whatever, I'm like, nobody's going to think this is real, but surprisingly somebody always does. And then there's the boat one where it's like, if you're not really paying attention, you don't realize, you know. Well, me and Mark were actually talking earlier in the episode about how like these people, the hardcore mega types and everything, they've made it. way harder, I think, to tell what is and is not real.

Because we were talking about, like, these quotes from Rudy Giuliani in court defending the American president when it comes to election fraud. And they sound like jokes. Like they don't, or Lindsey Graham having a conversation with, like, a high-profile journalist. And it sounds like a joke, you know, from like VEP or something like that. But it's, but it's not, though.

It's all real. So do you think that that like, that whole general climate plays in to you and your videos and how you go about it and the way people respond to it? Yeah, definitely. I think, you know, it comes from, you know, initially Trump and it trickles down because he's a guy that seriously says terms like lame stream media.

Yeah. You know, and you're like, that's the president that says that. Or, you know, people will say soy boy or beta male cuck. and you're like, I mean, those are new insults and they don't mean anything to me because they don't hurt in the first plate. You know what I'm saying? So like it's hard to, it is hard to parody somebody that's like already a parody. So you have to like tow that line. Because at a certain point, if I don't have a certain amount of jokes in there, then I'm just kind of repeating what these people are already saying, you know?

Right. Well, so kind of on that note, like you talked about Trump and what he says. I don't know if you saw it, but on Sunday, he tweeted something about John Bolton, right? Just completely out of nowhere. I mean, he had a, John Bolton had basically shot down the idea that the election was stolen or whatever. And that's why Trump was mad. But it seemed to just come totally out of nowhere. And this is verbatim word for word what the sitting president's tweet about one of his administration members was.

It says, John Bolton. was one of the dumbest people in government that I've had the, quote, pleasure to work with. A sullen, dull, and quiet guy, he added nothing to national security except, quote, gee, let's go to war. Also, illegally released much classified information.

A real dope. Like, that is so wild that that's Donald, that that's the president of the United States saying, I know he's done that type of thing forever. It don't make it any less wild, though. Yeah, he's one of the dumbest guys I've ever employed. Can you believe that, guys? I mean, in his defense,

Trump's one of the dumbest guys we've employed, so it's a perfect circle. Yeah. It is funny to me, though, like, like what Bolton had said they got him mad was basically Bolton made the joke. Again, with guys, you shouldn't be joking about things shouldn't be joking about. He said that it was the most immaculate crime ever committed if it was voter fraud. And after this good at rigging elections, we should hire them at the CIA.

To which my response is, fuck you, John Bolton. His joke is we should do more coups in South America. A piece of shit. All of them suck. This is the human embodiment of like the Godzilla let them fight me. I don't care who wins. They're both assholes. But they did it was like as soon as like there was like this sense of relief online with Trump lost. It was like, oh, we can go back to be funny again. And social media got fun for a little bit. Do you know what I'm saying? And it's like, I hope

like, because there's a phenomenon and you're a victim of it where people take you seriously and get mad at you and you just troll them by playing along with the bit, right? But there's this thing where it happens where the right wing is taken like, like the word woke was never used not as an insult. It was a reemployed by

like black people making fun of try hard rappers like common who would rap about how women are beautiful flowers need to be respected or whatever. They make it part of them for that. And the Wright takes it and says everyone's trying to be woke. No one was ever trying to be woke. No. It was always an insight.

Yeah. They were just trying to be a kind person. Yeah. Like you're being insulted for being kind and having empathy. So Brent, what was the, and I know, you know, whatever, it's most generic question ever, but I'm still going to ask it. seven inches what's the origin story of this guy

of the truck rant guy out of this yeah come about um it just came from people burning nikes and jerseys and their backyard so and that was like a bunch of people recording themselves but seriously and then you know being like i was a cold season ticket holder but not anymore and then you're like you know you're just going to be at the game

next year. Like this doesn't go any further. Or you've already paid for the jersey. Why not wear it or donate it? But no, you have to burn it. So I went to Goodwell and I bought like a Simba stuffed animal because that's for the lions, of course. And like I had a pair of red high heels and stuff where it was like, I'm like, I'm done with these. And it's just a pair of high heels, like so, but never made mention of it. So that's where it came from. And then I, for some reason, like people thought it was real. I was like, I think people would think this is funny because it's obviously a joke and then they just didn't realize it was. And I was wearing Nike's the whole time in the video, which is my favorite part. Well, I was, I was going to ask you that if you thought,

if you thought that it would be taken, like in your mind, you're like, if you thought, I'm about to fool a bunch of motherfuckers with this, or if you, if that never entered your mind at all, you're like, obviously this is a joke. No one can fail to us to understand it's a joke. I'm holding up fucking high heels and wearing Nike's the whole time. And so I understand it was the ladder. Like, it took you by surprise how many people took you completely seriously, which again continues to happen to this day. Every video you put out, you get taken seriously by a fair number of people. Obviously, plenty of people at this point know and dig you. They get what you're doing. But still, every single video, you get some people that just take it at face value, right?

Yeah, it was never like the intention of like, oh, I'm going to, you know, to steal a term punk these people, you know, like it was never that. And then, you know, I just kept doing it because then you'd get insults of, you know, if you ever wanted to know anything about yourself, just post a video on the internet because they'll let you know. So I had no idea I was fat, apparently. Nobody knows more than me, internet. But like, yeah, it's one of those things. then it just becomes funny to me if you insult me creatively because I love a roast. So it's one thing for you be like, you're fat. I'm like, there's no creativity.

But if you're like, you're a fat turd who should cut my grass or then I'm like, okay, that's a little more fun. Dude, somebody asked Cory Ryan Forrester, who's our senior Georgia correspondent here on Eveningiskees, and also the buttercream dream, our viewers, they know Corey. He posted a buttercream dream video the other day and somebody in the comments asked him if he had an only flans, like the Mexican dessert, flan or flan, only flans. And he gets that type of shit all the time. And it's, you know, it's funny because like the internet giveeth and taketh, man.

A lot of those comments are like just, you know, make you want to scream. But every now and then you get one like that and you're like, you motherfucker. Brett was just named one of Variety's top 10 comedians to watch. so fat or no fat, you can take that all the way to the fat store, baby. That's right. I have an account at the fat store. They know me. I have good credit there.

And I know it's like maybe still too early to really even tell, but like has the election and how it's gone so far? Is it at all impacted your online presence and the way people respond to you? I mean, now you get a lot of, oh, get over it. You lost type stuff. So then then you get people. are like, what are you going to do now as, you know, as far as the election's over now, like, like, as far as like, oh, now you can't be funny anymore. What are you going to get a job at Amazon or whatever?

But, yeah, so it's, you know, this is not over until January 20. And even then, that guy's not going away. Yeah, these people, you know, overnight aren't going to go away. And there's always going to be a guy that's going to rant in his truck about millennials getting a trophy or something, you know. So no yeah you know do people have asked me the same question over and over again to like what are you going to do when Trump's not around anymore and I'm like well when I when I first went viral and showed up on the internet first of all I've been doing comedy for six years at that point but secondly Barack Obama was the president and no one was even taking Donald Trump seriously yet like he had like just started his campaign and no one was even taking him seriously so like you said that guy the guy we are both making fun of in different ways the guy guy, you know, hollering in his truck or whatever, that dude's been around since time immemorial and that dude ain't going anywhere. So, yeah, there's always going to be something for us to make fun of. We talked last week about how Trump ruined comedy, but I keep seeing people have the take,

like, well, what are late night writers going to do now? And I say as somebody who works in that area, fucking, I would rather write about goddamn anything than Trump tweets at this point. I cannot, I cannot be more sick of it. And by the way, Brent's a funny guy. Did you take that same skill of being funny and make fun of something else and it'll still be great. Nobody, there are a few people who are Vaughan Meter style fuck. And Trey loves that guy's story. Do you want to tell Vaughan Meter story, Terry? I do very quickly.

This is a story from comedy history here, if y'all never heard it. In the 60, early 60s, there was a guy named Vaughn Meter who became like very, very, very famous nationally because he was a John F. Kennedy, impersonator. That was his whole thing. And, you know, so sort of like Sarah Cooper, but in the early 60s. I wasn't going to name call checker, but yeah, go ahead. You know, it's an obvious parent. And I'm not shit talking Sarah Cooper. I'm just saying it's an obvious parallel. And he was hot shit man all over the place. And then obviously John F. Kennedy got assassinated. And the day John F. Kennedy got assassinated, Lenny Bruce was doing a show at Carnegie

Hall. And a lot of people didn't know, like, is he even going to still do the show? What do we do, American tragedy. The president just got shot, right? But he still did the show. Show went on. This is the day John F. Kennedy got assassinated. And Lenny Bruce walked on stage in the first words he said was, well, Von Meaders fucked. Which again, really landed at the time because he was hugely famous. And yeah, I just I just love that story. But yeah, like Mark said, it's not that, it ain't that kind of thing. Yeah. You know. I do, you guys remember, like, the guy that was like, a really good Bush impersonator.

You know, there's, I'm sure there was a couple. I think is whatever. Yeah, like, and then there was like an Obama guy and there's a lot of Trump guy. So I'm wondering at a certain point, like the Obama guy looks pretty much like Obama. So now like do you lean into it and keep doing the Obama gigs? Because every day they're going to be, you know, you look like Obama, right? He's like, yeah, I know. And I'll scream at you for $30 on cameo.

You know, like that kind of thing. it's got to be so weird to look exactly. Like, did that guy look like Kennedy, Trey? I don't actually, I don't know for sure. I've just, I've always read these stories. Oh, look, there you go. Look at fucking producer Matt on top of it.

There you go. Michelle Keelan over here says they used to ask the same question to Lewis Black about George Bush Jr. Or, you know, George W. Bush. And yeah, it comes up every time. I just love those. I mean, this isn't about politics, but I love those show this stories.

people have bet it all in one thing. Like, dude, the guy who wrote the Monster Mash, it was he's been around show business for a long time. This was one big hit was Monster Mash. And he couldn't get anything else to take off. So the next year he made a Monster Holiday, a Christmas song. He just went right back to that well. I fucking love it.

Mark's told me that story before, Brent, and you tell me if I'm wrong here, that is the opposite of the way it should have worked. Like, it shouldn't have been Monster Holiday. It should have been Christmas Mash. Yeah, yeah. And then Easter MASH and then July 4th Mash, whatever, not Monster Thanksgiving and, you know, whatever. Like, you know, I think he was fundamentally flawed with his appearance.

So Christmas Mash in your scenario is something about like Santa and the elves. Santa and the rainier. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That makes more sense. Okay. You want me over for that.

All right. Hey, producer Matt, start throwing them comments up there. You're going to stick around, right, Brent? Yeah, man. I'll hang out. All right. Anything y'all got for any of us or for Brent? or just for the world at large in the situation,

just hit us with it, and we will talk about it. If anybody doesn't know, Brent is an Indiana, lives there in Indiana, so he knows all about this shit. Who's your, Mike Pence and I? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, the middle finger of the South is my favorite description for Indiana.

That's pretty accurate. It is. Because you get, like, people are like, oh, you sound Southern, which to me I don't hear it. But then, you know, I'm from the Midwest, so you go farther north into Michigan. And you're like, that guy's from the south. And you're like, no, he's from, you know, Grand Rapids, Michigan. That's, you know.

No, I mean, you know, like to me, I don't think you have a Southern accent at all. But I totally believe you, and I know what you mean by that. James Fox says, Monster Mash is a song. What the actual fuck? Yeah, we know James. That's what we were saying. Does he not know? We were saying, Mark was saying, the Monster Mash guy tried to capitalize on Monster

Mash by making Christmas Mash, Easter Mash, New Year's Mash, and all this other stuff that didn't pan out. Monster Holiday, if you guys don't look up at song. Yeah, sorry, I said it backwards. Yeah. Monster Holiday. Bobby Picketts, he are in the Crypt Kickers. Yeah.

Yeah, you can't really. I guess it's like a sequel. You know? You got to make the, you know, what do you call it? The follow up? I do love when something hits big and then the, like, the question is, is that guy going to do with something? Is he going to make Home Alone 2?

Or is he going to make something else? Yeah. Yeah. It's always Home Alone too. Zachary Kern says, Brent, thank you. Your shit is a fucking bolt of sunshine. How about that, Brent?

You're welcome, Zachary. For everything. No, thank you for, yeah, listening. The SS Maga Ritaville was inspired. I like to take the talent on the neck. Maga Ridaville is such a great name for that fictional boat that sank. That was wonderful. I told Mark when that happened, we talked about that on the show, that sinking boat parade.

Whatever. I'm from a lake town in Tennessee, Dale Hollow Lake and Clay County, Tennessee, and I grew up going to that lake and everything. And, I mean, I was fucking poor white trash. My family never had a boat. I was in and around boats my entire life growing up. I still go back and go out on that lake every summer when there's not a plague going on. And Clay, buddy, there's Trump flags flying. Some of the dumbest motherfuckers on planet Earth go out on that lake in, and they are

legion, right, on Memorial Day or whatever, and I have never seen some shit like that, meaning them, like, fucking sinking themselves and you go full Titanic with it. And like, you can't get dumber and drunker, I would have thought, than some of the people that I have seen playing redneck yacht club out on a lake. So, like, these people in Texas, my God. Or the, just the trucks with the flags, because I went to, like, a meetup. They did a Trump train here in Indianapolis, so I went to the meetup in a movie theater parking lot. And you just see, you're like, that flag is as big as the truck.

Like, yeah. How was that not a hazard? Which it is, but how is nobody say anything about it, you know? Oh, shit. I got something I want to ask you. But first, Mike Spiker, Mike Spilker says, I got to ask, is that really Brent's basement that he records in? It's my compound.

It's parts of note. Actually, this is actually kind of, it's become like an office type area. But it looks like a hair salon because the lady we bought the house from did hair. So there's a sink right. right over there. If anybody needs their haircut, I will be happy to do that. But for now, it's my basement. I got a question for you, Brent.

You're talking about flags on trucks. You're from Indiana. What is your perspective, or can you explain Confederate flags all over the state of Indiana? Because, I mean, I've seen them. I've seen a lot of them. I went to a fucking one-day country music festival in Indiana. because Chris Stapleton was playing, but the headliner was Hank Jr.

And buddy, this is outside of Indianapolis, ate up with Confederate flags. Yeah. So what is that about? I don't know, because you go anywhere. It's just like that mentality,

I think of like, and it's not even a Southern thing anymore. It's just like, I'm kind of, I want to be racist, but not say it type activity. And it's not just flags. It's belt buckles and tattoos.

The big boss man from wrestling has a Confederate. flag tattoo, which, you know, maybe back then meant actually the South. I don't know. I don't, I never met the big boss man. I never had the pleasure of, uh, being arrested by him. But, uh, you do know this, Brent, because you're a big wrestling fan, but what, you know the big boss man's actual name? Ray Trailer. Ray Trailer. I just always appreciated that when I found out. Mr. Trailer, the big boss man with the Confederate flag on his, on his arm. Uh, hey, on that note, Brent, that's that. Jason Nicholson wants to know if Brent could wrestle one WWE star, who would it be?

Hi, Jason. First off, I would, I don't know. My favorite is maybe The Undertaker or Mick Foley. So McFoley was like three different characters. So probably that. But also, I can't turn down an opportunity to get a Stone Cold standard from Stone Cold. That would be a framed photo on my wall. Hell yeah. You joined the ranks of the American president. Many other luminaries. Well, let me ask you as a big wrestling guy. What are your thoughts on this upstart smart mouth motherfucker The Buttercream Dream? What are you think about this guy? So you just all talk, all bluster, all smoke, or is there some real talent there?

According to my comments on Twitter, people think he's me, which is not a compliment to Corey, by the way. They're like, oh, did you shave? I'm like, no, that's a completely different guy. Just you put sunglasses and a hat on somebody. But I love the Buttercream Dream because I love, it's that old wrestling style promo, but about politics.

It's really funny to me. Yeah. He put out a video, not a Buttercream Dream video, just a random video on a, or somewhere around Election Out, he was, it was CNN coverage at a polling center in Georgia or something. And the reporter had a mask on. And so he's reporting on like the state of, you know, know the vote count there but you can't see his mouth moving at all so corey took a video of that and then he talked over the dude not as the buttercream dream just as himself he's like listen these motherfuckers

working their asses off down here god damn and it got it got some heat it got shared a lot whatever and there were a fair number of people in his comments he posted it originated the video posted himself and there a fair number of people down there that were like i know trey crowder's voice anywhere I can tell Trey Crowder's done a video, he did whatever. At first he like played along with it. He was like, yeah, thanks Trey for hook him up with it. But finally he was like, he was like, okay, listen, it's me.

That's me talking. But yeah. I mean, I'll read next time like to them, I guess is the point. But I wanted to say like the Yankees flying the Confederate flag thing. It's like so weird to me because usually people bandwagon the other way. Usually when you have a victory, other people jump on it. But here's a bunch of people who won trying to jump on the losing side, right? Like, an example of this is funny to shit to me.

And as a native Virginia, I should be on the other side of this. But like the first Minnesota regiment captured a Virginia battle flag in Gettysburg in 1863. And ever since then, Virginia's been trying to get it back as an artifact. And Minnesota keeps telling my home state to go fuck themselves because they got a fair and square in a war that we started. I'm like, yeah, that makes sense. the hell would you want to be on the losing side? Doesn't make any sense. Because they're going to rise again.

Yeah. Also at my neighborhood, I just, when you were talking, Mark, it reminded me of, there's a flag in my neighborhood. It's one of those, you would have bought it on eBay, but it's the rebel flag that transitioned into the American flag, I think. I used to have a bit about that. Oh, yeah. It's like, show me crazy, man.

I was like, reping the Confederate, flag while talking about being a true American is like opposing gay marriage with a dick in your mouth. They're diametrically opposed, you know? But yeah, no, that shit has always driven me crazy.

And I was actually about to bring up a similar point that David James has said in the comments, he says, it's not hate it's heritage. I never understood that coming from folks residing north of the Mason Dixon. I'm not trying to get it. The whole thing, I'm just saying I know from Leonard Skinner to my goddamn daddy and other people, I have known and met people who genuinely love the Confederate flag

for rock and roll and like Southern reasons who like, my dad was not racist. He loved Leonard Skinner and he had an American flag in his bedroom until he passed away. That's bull. He passed away in 2013. I believe he would have taken that flag down by now if he was still alive. and my me-mom has taken it down since then.

Because my dad wasn't racist and it wasn't about that, you know, it really wasn't. But that's why I never understood people in like Indiana or Maine or Colorado or, I mean, wherever, like, rocking the Confederate flag, you know, because like it's not a legitimate argument to begin with. I'm not saying it is. It's not. But you remove even the semblance of a legitimate argument, right? when you're on the other side of it. Well, and even,

I forgot that this even happened. The high school that I went to, it's called Ron Colley High School. We're the Ron Colley Rebels. And we were on the news for the wrong reasons a couple years ago for letting some gay counselors not technically be fired, but just not have their contracts renewed.

And I remember just being in grade school before I went to high school and you would see that Southern gym. general type guy. And now I think they totally downplay it and I think you're going to switch the mascot or whatever. But the Roncalli rebels in Indianapolis, Indiana. Well, I think we've talked about this on the show before. But let me ask you what you think about it. I think you're talking about them downplaying it. In my opinion, if the mascot isn't a fucking Johnny Reb in a gray uniform with six shooters or whatever and you don't play up any kind of Confederate

whatever, the mascot rebels is fine because it could be fucking Star Wars, you know, you could be galactic rebels or whatever. Like just the word rebel by itself isn't a problem, in my opinion. It's just when you add all that Confederate iconography on top of it, as most places who are the rebels are want to do, that's when it becomes a problem. Even like the word rebels, I mean, in pop culture usage, they mean like, you know, rebel out of cause. Like, it means like a teenage punk guy on a band, right?

The thing of it as South tried to take it to be like, cool. Right. You make you call it an insurrectionist. It doesn't sound quite as cool. Yeah, their reasoning some people says, oh, Pope John Roncalli, he was a rebel in the church. So, you know, I don't really care either way. But because, you know, it's just like when NASCAR says, you know, we don't allow the Confederate flag but go look in the parking lot and see how many, you know, references to that there are.

So hopefully there won't be in the wrong colleague. You also a NASCAR guy in addition? No, no, not at all. I like wrestling. I had to, you have to choose between the, I don't think you have to. Listen to this. No, first of all, you definitely don't have to choose between the two. There is a massive overlap between the two fan bases.

Anyway, Kevin W. says, I'm in Calgary. and one of my co-workers has Confederate flag stickers on his truck. Again, like, what else can that even mean? Like, I don't know Kevin's coworker, but I assume if you asked him, are you racist? He would be like, no, of course I'm not racist. But what else could that even possibly mean in that context? You know, like, what are you rooting for?

You're Canadian. Like, I don't... It's become an international symbol. Like, people like the Nazi flag is illegal injure. Germany. So Germans fly a Confederate flags a lot. And as a substitute. So I told you what you need to know about it. Yeah. And it's not even like what you believe. It's what you can believe something, but then if the rest of the world perceives it as something else, that, are you going to be the guy that's

going to flip it or are you going to just be like, okay, maybe I shouldn't. Right. All right. Well, that's it for us. But Brent, real quick, if people, I'm sure most of these people already know, but tell people where and how they can find you and check your shit out. You can check me out on onlyflans.com. Brentcomedy.com and links to my Facebook and Twitter and Instagram and YouTube, all that stuff on there. So that's where I hang out. My man. All right.

Brent are here and everybody. I'm trying to ask Mark. Give it up for producer Matt. We'll see you on 48 short hours, 47, I guess, on evening skew. See you. Bye. Thanks, guys. See you.

Thank you, bro. All, Heidi, Heidi, everybody. Welcome back. Today's Thursday, November 19th. I'm Trey Crowder. That's Mark Aegee. What's up, Mark? What's up, Trekk?

With us, as always, is producer Matt, behind the scenes, doing the things. This here is evening skews. We've got a great show for y' all tonight. A little bit later in the show, we're going to be talking to Kentucky's own, the singer-songwriter S.G. Goodman, who is not only a brilliant musician, but also in this recent election cycle, fought valiantly in her homeland on the front-line. in opposition to the Fuck Turtle in Chief Mitch McConnell. We'll talk to SG about how that all turned out,

not only in Kentucky, but in the rest of the South, what the future might hold and a lot of other fun stuff. Before that, we've got an update for you on the dumbest coup attempt in history, currently centered in the state of Michigan, and what's going on with Fox News, disinformation, and what the future might hold for all of us. All that and more on tonight's evening's skews.

But first, as always, we begin. with the Daily Dumbassery. Producer Matt, hit that graphic, baby. So, tonight's Daily Dumbass is a little bit different because I don't have a name for you. I can't give you a specific name for this person. All I can give you is the title or the position that they hold. Tonight's honorary for Daily Dumbass is,

whomever was in charge of applying Rudy Giuliani's human skin suit prior to his big press conference in Michigan today. Now, as we all know by this point, The present-day iteration of Rudy Giuliani is not a living human being, but in fact a mass of fecal matter granted sentience and the ability to be bumbling and racist by the Koch brothers so that he might distract from the truly disturbing elements of the Republican leadership. Now, they're pretty shrewd about this.

The Republicans, they realize that it's hard to engender goodwill, even amongst a base like Trump's, when your instrument is a talking turd mountain. So what they have typically, what they do is they put Rudy in a human suit before he makes public appearances. And look, yes, it's 2020, but we're not all the way to the future yet. It's an imperfect technology. They do okay, but there's still some flaws. You typically, Rudy's skin suit appears to be kind of droopy, kind of shiny, little glistening and whatnot.

But at the very least, they can usually keep it from leaking the fecal matter that is his actual substance from any kind of porous. holes in the suit but that was not the case today producer Matt throw up some of them pictures there so people can see them look at that mark clear evidence as you can see the shit the bull shit the different types of poop that is Rudy Giuliani leaking out the sides coming down the side of his face now this is upsetting and such a key moment for for this organization right how do they how do they address this mark I I so Rudy Giuliani has spent two-thirds of his life under TV lights and somehow decided today to,

New York Times did a, it called up a TV hair makeup person to ask him if that was hair dye or what. And they're like, no, it looks like what he did was he took mascara and tried to blend his graying temples and sideburns to match the rest of his dye job that was done professionally. And that's what was his ring in his face as mascara. Now, I don't know why he thought that would lend more credibility to his legal argument. arguments. Message for another day. Well, that's the thing.

It's like, we've talked about so much recently. How hard it, not this, okay, what am I trying to say here? So much of this seems not real, right?

Like everything involving Rudy Giuliani sounds and seems like it's from an episode of a scripted TV show, like a, a spinoff from VEP or something, about Rudy Giuliani. Like we had all the quotes last time of like, I don't know what that means.

I guess it means you can see. And then the judge is like, no, it means you can't see. And all those different things that's been going on with him. Yeah, ninth grade vocabulary word opacity. Yeah. Yeah, opacity.

And then you put the, the capper on that of having mascara or hair dye running down his face while he's like going on this ludicrous, nonsensical, utterly fact-less. this tirade at the peak of all this stuff. And it's like, people say this a lot, but I swear to God,

like if you had a show like that and you tried to write this into it, I think there'd be plenty of people to tell you like, that's too much, man. Like, that's, that's too much. We get it back off a little bit. That's too much. I'll tell you what, Tray. The American myth of meritocracy is dying fucking hard.

Because what it essentially boils down to is he like, well, these people cannot be. stupid because they're in charge. Therefore, they must be doing something smart. I must know something we don't. I'm here to tell you, they're doing everything they can, including letting mascara run on their face on national television while they rant about essentially alien

conspiracy theories. They're fucking stupid. And you can just accept it, and the life's not fair, and we can all pick up and move on and try to make it more fair. Because that's what, that's all it says. It also is like, I always wonder, when I see things like this or things like this happen. I always wonder, like, what do the people

on the inside of their organization or their side of things. What do they actually think about all this? Do they really believe all this? Or is it just kind of bullshit they're saying? So, Matt, if you could pull up that clip from... This is Donald Trump's official YouTube live stream

of the press conference where this happened with Rudy Giuliani, if you have it, Matt, where you can hear them talking about it. They didn't know their mics were on. at once all for Joe Biden. That's like flipping a coin 186,000 times. And it lands on.

He fucking Rudy's hair dye dripping down in his face. There is no reasonable explanation for the up shoots. Straight lines up. I'm not even talking about. So that was the, that was Trump's official YouTube channel. The guys who run into his official YouTube stream forgot to mute themselves. They, so they, this, like, they understand how,

embarrassing and everything he is or how laughable he is in this situation they clearly do or he wouldn't have said it that way right yeah that's like that's more concerning to me do you know what I mean like that means they are and I'm not saying all of them I think some of them are true zealots and true believers right who are blissfully unaware of this type of thing but a large number of them are self-aware to a certain degree and still you know, line up right in line on and, and go to bat for these motherfuckers. And that upsets me more, frankly. Well, I mean, okay, so the blonde lady who was over Giuliani's right shoulder in that press conference.

She spoke first. It was Jenna Ellis, all right? And CNN yesterday dug up what she was saying in 2016, which is she called him on her Facebook page, an idiot, borsh, and arrogant, and a bully. His comments about women are disgusting, and he said he was, quote, not a real Christian. Okay, this is what she really believed in 2016. And you know, she probably really believed it because she wasn't really a public figure.

They didn't she had like a local radio show in Colorado. But one of the reasons, she's a good example. One of the reasons these people are so committed to Trump is they're elevated way above their actual abilities and merit and status. And if front goes away, so does their new life. Right. Right. These are dumbass mediocrities, and like, their whole status is based upon kissing his ass. And that part of that is because of how much he has burned through people willing to work for him, right? Like, it's been four years, and he fires anyone who does anything even remotely against his will or that upsets him personally.

And, like, they probably weren't, you know, they weren't sending their best, Mark, to begin with. But after four years of this kind of attrition at his behest, at this point, it's got to be people like that, right? Like people that aren't ready for it. Like you said, mediocrates. I read earlier that Giuliani's personal, like, press secretary, not McAnney, Giuliani's personal press person is a 20-year-old who, they've since found out, lied on her resume about being related to the governor of Virginia or something like that,

which wasn't even true. and that's still who holds that role. So actually, I guess it was heard that it had to apply the human suit and let the Pope through earlier. But either way, that's what they're dealing with at this point. There's a guy who's like an internal

Trump's 2016 campaign who is now the deputy under secretary of defense and his wife's a federal judge. So Kissing Trump's ass has gotten a lot of people really far, really fast. But like one thing that's fun to think about at that press conference, which was a disaster.

We're going to talk about it more, but like, who's not there? Right. This is what's left. This is his super... Right. The only rats left on the ship. Yeah. I mean, even Jay Sukulal is not there, who's defended Trump's old presidency and has been his biggest legal defender.

He's gone. He's a, because he has a life to think about after Trump. He's not... Whereas Giuliani, like, Trump's his biggest opportunity left. Okay. So you said it has a life to think about after Trump. That kind of leads into something I want to also talk about. And we'll start it with a clip, still sticking with Rudy Julian.

So, producer Matt, that clip from the same press conference where Giuliani talks about all this proof that they have, but the circumstances surrounding it, if you could throw that up there. With here and uncovering more by the day is the massive influence of communist money through Venezuela. We're going to have that clip in a second. I think he's a, yeah, they're totally a proof clip, Matt. First, let's go to Kristen Fisher. She's live at the White House. Kristen. Well, that was certainly a colorful news conference from Rudy Giuliani, but it was light on facts. So much of what he said was simply not true or has already been thrown out in court. And, you know, Giuliani, he opened by making this really bold and baseless claim that a lot of this alleged nationwide voter fraud that he's referring to all came from one centralized place. He called it a nationwide conspiracy.

And yet he failed to provide any hard evidence to back up that one specific claim, especially when... Yeah, so he waved around a stack of affidavits that he said were from people who observed voter fraud, but he wouldn't let anybody look at them. And he couldn't tell their names because they would get harassed, which you cannot file anonymous affidavits in court. So, yeah, he basically said, we've got hundreds of these, and this proves it all. but I can't show them to you because it would upset these people or whatever. But that

whole clip there is what I was talking about when I said leading into life after Trump and all that. That's from Fox News, right? And look, I'm not, I ain't giving Fox News no fucking you know credit anytime soon.

But I'm just, I do think it's wild lately what's happening with Fox News and how this all is working. out or seems to be working out like ever since it seems to me like ever since they called arizona before anybody else did and trump jumped on their shit about it but they stuck to it and whatever and now you got this is on fox news and you've got this reporter coming on there and saying like look this is all completely baseless like there's nothing to any of this right and i feel like that's wild kind of given fox news's recent track record like it seems like

you're talking about this guy earlier you said he has a he has a career to worry about post-Trump. So he has to like cover his own ass here. And like that Fox News, they're not going away. So it seems to me like they're trying to distance themselves from Trump a little bit or from Trumpism. But Trumpism has catapulted them so much recently, right? And you've also got these new upstarts. We talked about Newsmax or one America network that had become like the new Fox news. And I'm just wondering what you think all this really means with Fox News. And I'm, news and also what the future of Fox News is going to be if they really do kind of distance themselves from Trump or whatever.

I mean, well, business-wise, I mean, one of the reasons everybody kisses ass so much is Trump has the ability to tear the Republican Party in half at any point and also tear Fox in half at any point. Anytime he breaks them. But you're talking about Fox's daytime programming. Fox's nighttime programming, which is way more popular, is still full and to sucking Trump stick. It's like,

like, Channing. Was that, was that clip not, that wasn't from Hannity, that clip we just watched? I thought it was. The,

the banner was promoting Henry later. Promoting Hannity. Yeah. Not, okay, my bad. So, so on the show where they're trying to be honest,

they're still promoting lies later. Right. So, so, um, uh, so, I mean,

it's, it's all very crazy. Fox's ratings have been going down, which is good for, you know, everybody. But it's still like, these conspiracy theories

like one of the problems they have is because they can't really decide what their theory is like so these Dominion voting machines were hacked at first now they weren't hacked they were always installed to be used to rigged elections for Democrats

but it didn't ring anything down ballot and then it was that the Clintons owned you know Clinton's and George Soros owned Dominion now here's the theory of today is it played the Dead Sidney Powell clip Matt? Yeah, Sidney Powell, who was the one standing standing up there with Giuliani during this. With here and uncovering more by the day is the massive influence of communist money

through Venezuela, Cuba, and likely China in the interference with our elections here in the United States. The Dominion voting systems, the smartmatic technology software, And the software that goes in other computerized voting systems here as well, not just Dominion, were created in Venezuela at the direction of Hugo Chavez to make sure he never lost an election after one constitutional referendum came out the way he did not want it to come out. We have one very strong witness. Yeah, so there you have it, Mark. Yeah, there you have it.

who died in 2013 rigged the 2020 election. All right. That's what they're down to. And the stuff they're playing with, and like you, mainstream audiences have a hard time like, like understanding that this is all QAnon stuff, right? This came out of the,

the, the, the, the eight-com fever swamp shit. And you've got, and you've got very mainstream Republicans toying with these ideas. And I don't know if they fully know what they're doing.

It's like Jenna Ellis, after the press conference was over. Right. So inside the Q's cinematic universe, all right? Trump has conducted all these military tribunals. Like Obama been convicted and executed, what you see on TV is a body double, all right? Same thing with Nancy Pelosi, Hillary Clinton, yada, yada, yada, yada.

So he's waiting for enough people to have their minds open to queue their third eye or whatever. And then at that moment, he can spring the trap and announce what he's done and what's happened. And so really, Q's already been success. What they're waiting for is the announcement so the public can see the truth that they were right all the time and their kids should start talking to him again. All right. That's essentially what's happening. So the moment when all this happened, because they're so pop culture addled too, they call them that release the Cracken. All right?

So they've been calling for Trump to release the Crack and announce that he actually is already president for life. And has all been a sting operation. And Jenna Ellis tweeted Giuliani and Sidney Powell have released the Cracken. All right. This is President Bush's main election recount spokesman. There it is. Yep. Jenna Ellis, Rudy Giuliani and Sidney Powell, release the crack in all caps. And like you said, that's just straight up Q&on rhetoric, which as we've said many times on the show and cannot say enough. The entirety of Q&ONR rhetoric is some of the dumbest shit you will ever read or hear about in your entire life. And it's just becoming more and more mainstream.

Although, like, you know, the fact that they don't, like you said earlier, like they don't mention the fact that it is that, kind of makes it seem to me like they're like, like, they're embarrassed of it themselves or something, but they still need to use it. Do you know what I mean? Like the fact that they don't just openly tell people, hey, this is QAnon shit, but still put it out there anyway, I think is also telling. Yeah, I mean, you never tell. I mean, like, Senate Republicans did not really think that Obama was born, wasn't born in America, that his birth certificate. But they always, but they'd always be like, you ask them, do you think Obama's birth certificate,

who's faking? It's like, oh, I think there are many viewpoints out there. And, like, they like to keep these people in a coalition, by being vague. And that's why you'll see, like, Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio tweet about child sex trafficking and being a problem, but not actually, you know, go into it any further. But just so everyone understands who all these characters are,

Sidney Powell was Mike Flynn's lawyer. It's spent the last few years getting laughed out of court for conspiracy theories in his trial. And the person they were saying was going to be their main witness about election fraud in this case is Lynn Powell, who literally has Q hashtags in his profile. He was the lawyer who represented, remember that kid from, I think it was the Kentucky private school who went viral for laughing at that old Indian guy? Yeah. Yes. And then spoke at the

Republican National Convention this year. Yeah. He represented that kid and the only reason he wasn't that press conference is because he was in Georgia testifying and that for a witness on how the election was stolen and getting allowed to court there, but not being able to answer basically questions.

So, all right. So this whole thing that we've been focused on so far, this one press conference that all of this that 20 minutes of stupidity has come out of uh and then some but this press conference was um in service of them trying to win back michigan even though biden won michigan by 150,000 votes. This is all about Michigan. And it seems so far that, you know, they're not like with all of their other, uh,

lawsuits so far, they're not making too much traction with this. But Mark, we were talking before we came on the air, it's like, it's, it's, kind of disconcerting when you really look at it because it seems like it's really this like thin line of just a few Republicans like high level or in important position Republicans who are kind of still at this point standing out in front of this and saying no this is bullshit like on our last show we talked about the Georgia Secretary of State Raffensberger you know and him actually taking a stand despite his previous, you know, political tendencies or whatnot. And that's also what's happening in Michigan. You have the, the Michigan House Speaker Lee Chatfield,

the Michigan Senate Majority Leader Mike Shirky, and they're both Republicans. And they seem to not be like playing along right now, which is like, that's great that they're not, if you're on our side. But it also is kind of worrying because it's like, Like, there's not really that many people standing between us and a full-on genuine coup attempt, and these people are Republicans, right? Like, yeah, right now, so what happened? So, first of all, let's tell about how stupid this is and what they seem to be trying to do, because the courts aren't going to save them.

They seem to realize that at this point. So they're exerting a ton of pressure on a few key elected officials that have any Republicans. like so julianne was there to talk about a lawsuit they had already dropped but he claimed they had won it because what happened was they were trying to stop the certification of Wayne County which is Detroit their votes so there was a meeting a couple of days ago where the two Republicans refused to certify they got yelled at and called racist for a couple hours then they certified it then so Rudy they filed this lawsuit to try to overturn it the two Republicans to it had changed their amount twice now claims they want to they want to they want to take their votes back and decertify

after getting calls from the president all right and they so but you can't there's no take back these in election certifications so it doesn't matter whether they want to decertify or not they already certified so what this goes like but statewide they're supposed to certify on Monday that's another board with two Republicans and one of the Republicans has already announced he's open to delaying the certification until they can conduct an audit. All right. So that leaves one Republican,

who if he changes his mind, they won't be able to certify the vote. And then what happens next is Joe Biden to get off his ass and file his own court cases to make them certify, or we just stay in this fucking limbo, hellish limbo. But it's also worth pointing out how fucking stupid this is, and this is all just political games,

because Michigan has 16 electoral votes. He needs to flip 37. Right, right. So he could have Michigan. It doesn't make it fuck all different. difference. Yeah. But if they can,

but if they can conduct an audit and find some examples of fraud to point to or to make false smoke about, then they can claim the whole election was rigged to try to put that same pressure on, uh, uh, official all over the country in close states like Arizona and Georgia. And that might admit that in theory.

If they can, yeah, if they can like bring the first ones into the fold who are in these like parallel positions, then like, it'd be like dominoes falling or something. They think. If one state doesn't suffer an immense amount of pain,

here comes three or four behind them. Right, right. So we were also talking about earlier, like you asked me, when we were talking pre-show, you were like, you know, where are the Democrats in all this? Do you think it's a matter of like, and Joe Biden has said multiple times publicly,

like, look, we won, count the votes, the votes will tell you we won. We won, I'm going to be the president. That's it. That's all you need to know. Which, like, on the one hand, I think is fine, but on the, it's like, I don't know, are they taking for granted that this is all just going to be okay? Or is it, like, I have to imagine behind the scenes they were working really hard to make sure no bullshit goes down. Or do you not think that's true? Like, because it's, all we ever hear about are these Republican officials who are in key positions and where they stand on all this and everything. You know, like, what's going on with the Democrats behind the scenes right now with all this? this shit, do you think? Behind the scenes means nothing.

This is a political. So, like, if you're not fighting it out loud, you're not fighting it. Like, you're one party convinced the entirety of their base that this election was fake and the president's not going to have any legitimacy. And the other side's just like watching flicks.

But, well, but I mean, I mean, as far as that goes, they have said, I mean, they've all said publicly, like the votes were counted, we won. We won. This is all baseless. We won. So like, and I know

Trump is still keeping his shit going, trying to make something happen with claiming it was stolen and the fraud and all that, but I'm saying like, I don't know, what are they supposed to do other than that, just keep reiterating it, be more like forceful verbally when they talk about it,

counter sue? Like, what are they supposed to do when some shit like this is happening? All right. All right. So, one problem with not making a big public stink about this is all these all these coward politicians are only getting pressured from one side right so yeah they're totally relying on their spine um you can be doing press conferences where they scream at the top of their lungs the president stealing the election and this is a coup nobody's doing that nobody's doing that but brian we have we can't get his name what's his name rothlisberger raffensparger raphan or raffinsparger yeah in georgia georgia georgia georgia secretary of state is cell phone number got, she got doxed and people have it. She's getting tested nonstop death threats.

And because he's not afraid he's certifying the election results. He could have not done that. He could have succumbed to pressure. And then what? What's next? Because like you need to relieve some of that pressure on him by making it look like he has no fucking choice because he's getting pressure from all sides. But he's just all alone out there on a flank when nobody coming to hell.

and it's it's it's not good politics it's just not and it's it's the same thing what do you think their rationale is for the current tag like just trying to ride it out like just let it run its course because they're so confident in the outcome or yeah just let let them the lead and the uh institutions uh save you and but like you're your football fan right how's pre-event defense go yeah terrible Probably not to lose. Yeah. And you probably not to win, in my opinion.

Yep. Yeah. I mean, but it's like the, I mean, there's a long-term problem here. Like, the information, like, power boards a vacuum, right? Yeah. Information abhor's a vacuum. All this information is flood in the zone is because there's no, it's just,

you have mainstream reporters, you have crazy reporters, you have crazy sources, you have crazy resources and then everybody else is gone home. Yeah. Right. So. All right. Well, it's not just us who's going to be discussing this lunacy tonight. Let's go ahead and get our guest in here. So S.G. Goodman is a singer-songwriter from Hickman, Kentucky, not Hickman County. It's important distinction, as I understand it.

S.G's debut album, Old Time Feeling, was co-produced by Jim James of My Morning Jacket and led to SG being deemed an artist, you know. need to know by Rolling Stone and you know what I concur so but that said let's get S G Goodman right in here everybody hey what's up how's it going doing good how you doing pretty good yeah this is Mark SG I co-host Mark AG Mark that's SG there can I see you where are you at right now I'm in my kitchen yeah it's dark over here So western Kentucky, I'm in a little town called Murray, Kentucky. Yeah, yeah.

Murray State, right? That's where Murray State is. Yeah, go racers. Go Golden Eagles. I'm a Tennessee Tech alumni, alumnus. Tennessee Tech alumnus. They're in the same conference, everybody, the OBC. Yeah.

Murray State and Tennessee Tech. But I've done a show Murray State, and it was a good time. So I mentioned earlier, I know from things. you and I have done previously and also just I think I would know this just from reading about you if I didn't even actually know you you're not the biggest fan of Mitch McConnell right as a Kentuckyan I mean you know let me put on my Kentucky Colonel hat for this but I would I have to say no yeah so you and you actually you didn't just like you ain't like you know me and Mark just bitching about stuff on the internet or whatever.

You actually have boots on the ground action going on there in Kentucky. You had an online music festival trying to just do what you could to push them out. They had Amy McGrath going against him. It didn't work out. I was just wondering like what you, I don't know, how you feel about the great state of Kentucky as far as all that goes today. I mean, I feel about Kentucky is different than how I feel about Mitch McConnell, you know. like right after the election I was like

had to take a long hard look in the mirror and say did I really really believe this place is going to change did I love you and I summed it up to somebody's like my uncle at the table and he's going there and you love him you know he's crazy but you're going to drive him home anyway because you want him to be safe and

that's kind of how I felt after you know seeing the margins of failure that I would argue that Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer delivered us with handpicking a candidate in Kentucky that Kentuckians didn't want to get behind. So, you know, now that the race is over, I can speak a little bit more candidly now that I don't have to throw my support behind someone who I myself didn't support in the primaries. Right. So I think, you know, Kentuckians have made their decision and made their decision for the world, unfortunately. And, you know, we're going to continue to pay, but it doesn't mean that we can't still, you know, fight against initiative he's starting.

But, you know, it definitely is a blow. I mean, saw it coming. That's why I tried to dedicate all my time to raise an awareness. Right. trying to speak some truth out there. But, you know. Well, something that I noticed about what you just said is, you know, you're just, you're like, look, Kentucky has made their voice heard for the whole world to hear,

unfortunately. And you're upset about it. And I understand this because I'm a Tennessee and like we're, it's the same shit in Tennessee as right now as far as all that goes. Yeah. Yeah, oh my God. Nightmare. But anyway, you're upset about it.

Clearly, you're not happy about it. But you're saying, look, that's what happened. That was the outcome, right? You're not, like, disputing the fact that that happened. You're not sitting here saying, I just don't believe that Kentucky is actually voted for Mitch McConnell again. And there's obviously some bullshit going on. You know, you're like, I don't like it, but it's what happened. Yeah.

And you know where I'm going with this. I think I do. It seems like they cannot do that. It's not that hard of a thing to do. It is painful on a personal level, but it's not that hard of a thing to do if you're a rational human being to admit defeat in this way, right?

Exactly. In the same way that Trump won victory, you know, was victorious in 2016. He's a loser now. And that, because that's the way our system works. But also, the common sense of people who don't realize that people aren't disputing the Republican senators that won.

Right, right. So, you know, when that happened, there were states that voted for Joe Biden but kept their Republican senators. Now, where's the fraud on that? That makes no sense. So it's a little disheartening, but, you know, a lot of people are just, you know, sore losers. I don't know what to tell you.

Well, let me ask you this, because, again, I'm from Tennessee, and I had the same thing. You were talking about like having the wrong candidate or whatever in there. And as a Tennessee and we had a Senate candidate Marquita Bradshaw from Memphis

who, you know, I felt pretty good about, well, I felt pretty good about her as a liberal from Tennessee. I did not feel great about her prospects just because I've been from Tennessee long enough, you know,

and I know how that goes. Yeah. But I'm just wondering, how you feel about this is a broad question here what happened in Georgia Georgia like turning blue

and how much you think we can glean from that for those of us from the other southern states who didn't do that like is this a glimpse into the future possibly like are we still moving in that direction because I've always remained hopeful

and optimistic that on a long enough timeline we are but I'm wondering how you feel about that if you think that really means anything for the rest of us? I think it definitely does, but unfortunately, you know, what happened in Georgia specifically, there was a lot of first-time voters or people who haven't voted in a long time because they, one, didn't feel like anyone was representing them. So, you know, we see the numbers now. We can break down the, sorry, y'all, my cat's playing a little.

here on my piano. That's all right. Let her play it. I told Mark before we got on here earlier, I was talking about how me and you've done a couple Zoom things together. And I was like, typically she's got dogs and shit running around or just animals. And it's like, so it's always a good time. My dog is over here in this chair.

But my cat, the funniest thing is he's deaf and he can't hear that shit. So normally that would scare a cat, but he's just that he does it every day. and I kind of enjoy it, you know, musical. Yeah. But anyway, back to what we were speaking on, what I'm personally fearful of in the next four years is all the people that the Democratic Party said they were going to represent and do something for,

that they're going to basically not deliver. They're going to back away from some of the progressive things that they latched on to in this election because they know that the party is shifting. And what's going to happen is, if you're saying that you are going to, you know, fight for black lives or whatever and then you don't deliver, that's going to be a real hard argument to make in four years.

So I think if you break down the demographics of the people who showed up in Georgia, we're going to have to hold those politicians feet to the flame in order to keep that electric for progressive momentum in the South. So I think it's a mixed bag as far as what's going to happen. Hopefully, you know, the Democratic Party won't be full of shit and deliver and start, you know, Now, we'll start actually money where their mouth is, but I think it is hopeful, you know, even here in Kentucky, if you break down the demographics and things in a minute level, even we have a shift in certain circumstances towards progressive initiatives. Charles Booker, for instance. You know, I feel

I haven't heard of yet, but I believe that helps in the foot of getting behind him instead of Amy McGrath because he was not just the man of the hour, but he's a man of the people. And so I believe

in that. But one side note, back to the Republican conspiracy of a faulty election. Do you think if the Democrats had that power that Mitch McConnell would have won? He's the worst one. Right. He's worse than Trump. No, no, 100%.

You're right. I think it was the first show after the election. We do a daily dumbass at the top of the show every night. And it was the dumbass that night was the American liberal because we were so stupid as to not have stolen the Senate while we were stealing the presidency, you know? Because of exactly what, it makes no fucking sense. Like you said, if we had the capacity to do that,

why in God's name would we leave Mitch McConnell and his ilk in power? I mean, yeah, nothing about it makes any sense. Exactly. That's, I mean, yeah, the lack of, the lack of common sense. But, you know, what's troubling? is for the next four years and probably, till we're old,

we're going to hear stories about how the Democrats took the election from Donald Trump. I mean, I even have family members posting online asking for people to write their senators, to stand behind Donald Trump, and also to give money to his legal fees.

That's crazy. We talked about that on the last episode. Did you know, SG, this is actually very exciting since you brought it the subject. Did you know that right now, if you donate to Donald Trump's legal defense fees, your donation will be matched by 1,000%. 1,000% it will be matched by some phantom force in the ether. They don't explain.

So, SG, if you donate $85, well, they'll donate, what is that, Mark, 8,500. I'm number dumb. They'll donate a shitload in your name. So, I mean, it rates like that, SG, really, you can't afford not to donate to his legal defense. Wow. You know what I mean? I know I had a family member actually post this thing. She gets messages.

She's not a Trump supporter, but she gets messages from his campaign just to keep her eye out. And one of them said, we've got proof, but it was just a portal to donate. There was no proof. And that's another thing with what's going on in Georgia. I would speculate,

and I think pretty wisely, to say that the Republicans right now, are going to still stand behind Trump's crazy ideas that he didn't, you know, went or that he won this election, because this is really the last opportunity for the RNC to raise a shit ton of money for everything that Trump has lost in his campaign. So it's just something wild to think about, you know. Yeah.

I mean, I want to talk at least a little, well, first, I want to talk at least a little bit about music. But, Mark, did you have anything come up that you wanted to ask about before I do that? I was trying to figure out where I'd heard of Hickman before. Tyler Childers is from Hickman, right? Childers? It's a different, it's a different area, Hickman Hall or something. So I'm from, yeah, so we're actually very far away from each other where we're from. I'm from the most western tip of Kentucky right by Tennessee on the Mississippi.

River and he's like he lives out closer to Lexington out in the boonies I'm pretty sure okay I was just that was stuck in my head I was like where I know Hickman from but out yeah I was like they put in the water down there to make the all this uh huge Americana artists well actually okay on that note I wanted to ask um because I'm not a musician but I'm a huge fan of that whole genre area of music and always have been. And I was just wondering how you feel about what kind of musician do you consider yourself to be? Like, would you say I'm an Americana artist?

What would you say you are? Do you even care? How do you feel about all that? I don't care. Because here's the thing about getting into it, how you feel about yourself doesn't really matter. True. Unless you're like Sturgle Simpson and have to remind people every day, you know, I'm not

down in them or nothing, but that you're not something. It's just like, get Ben. They're going to call you what they want. So I don't care. Americana is basically the genre where they throw people that they don't know what to do with. It's basically this genre where they're like, you're not going to probably make it on top 40 radios. Right.

You know. But you got a twang. I would always tell people out here, out here in California when music comes up and they ask me, do you like country music? And I'm like, yeah, I do, but probably not the country music you have in your mind when you ask me that question. And Americana comes up.

The way I always describe it as just a fan is I'm like, well, as far as I can tell, Americana seems to be country music, that's good. You know, if they think you have like artistic merit and like you said, not a lot of commercial viability, at a massive level, then that means you're Americana. But if you are commercially viable and have a twang or whatever,

well, then now you're country music. It's country music before country went all to snap beats, right? Exactly. And something that, like, a lot of people don't realize, and honestly, I was unaware of, too, until, you know, I put this record out, is radio is a real sense. Radio, one, is kind of monopolized,

but the way it works is a lot of DJs, your song is picked for the radio, unless maybe you're a crazy superstar or something like that, but by the BPMs. So it has to have a certain momentum in the song, which is why you're hearing country music today going straight up hip-hop because they're trying to get a massive radio signal.

I mean, that's not the whole thing, but also, you know, they're writing songs for radio charts. So I want to give you an opportunity to talk about how people can follow you and all that when it comes to your music. But I want to lead into it talking about you've got a new song out, right? Which side are you on? Is that, is it related? It's got anything to do with the old? Which side are you on song from way back in the day?

It mostly is the old song. So written by Miss Florence Reese of Harlan County, Kentucky. Right. And the last two stanzas, I wrote myself just to kind of give my own story to her message. But the first two lines, I mean, I might skip a word or change a little word here or there, but that's her deal made popular by Pete Seeger, you know. Yeah, about minors, right, the miners. It was about the Cold War in the early 30s.

You want me to tell the story? Just real quick. Oh, yes. So anyhow, get this shit. So Ms. Florence Reese's husband was a union organizer. And there was a sheriff in town, J.H. Blair, who the coal companies had kind of co-opted to work for them. And his job was to send people in and tamper down any union efforts in the co-campers. So they sent in his, he sent in his thugs to Ms. Florence, Reese's house.

house after her husband, but he caught wind of it and left out. But they went in and like terrorized her house and her kids. And the only thing, the story I was told was the only thing left on the wall was a calendar and she took it down and she pinned that song. So. Hell yeah. Yeah. And that's in keeping with a lot of the themes of the rest of your music, You got the way I talk, which I really appreciate. I know what you think. We hear the way I talk. And you kind of, I don't know, you just talk about a lot of the same shit that I've, you know,

thought about and felt my whole life. And so how can people, you know, how can they find you, support you, whatever they want to check it out, let them know. Yeah, well, I mostly interact myself with Instagram. So I'm on Instagram. you can just look up S.G. Goodman and then S.G. Goodman Kentucky, maybe. Let me just double check. I'm terrible.

I don't even know. Oh, it doesn't say to me. I think I'm S.G. Goodman. I mean, I know I'm S.G. Goodman. I just don't know the tag. I'm sorry. Shit. Okay. Anyway, I am on Facebook, but I don't really, I mean, y'all know that it's, it's, it, people are so mean on there. I just try to post as little as I can and get off of that.

I use it for Marketplace, though. I mean, I love a good yard sale. I have missed yard sales this year, but there's that Marketplace on. Yes, my wife is all over those all the time. I love it. I love it so much. Okay. I was just sent, I guess I am S.G. Goodman.

You are, yes, S.G. Goodman. So, but, so you can find ways on there. My link tree has where you can buy my album. I'm on all the streaming sites. But I encourage people if they're interested in my music, buy a record or a CD at your local record store, support a local business. That's great. And a new thing that I'm starting since my band is so,

broke, I really don't know if I want to do a Patreon. I'm just going to set it up where you just send money to my Venmo, but I'm going to announce tomorrow, I'm doing a country tarot card reading. So if you want to support my band in COVID, because Lord knows two of them got kicked off of unemployment, and I'm no sugar, mama, so I've got to figure out a way.

but 100 card tarot If you want an example, I did my first ever reading, it's on my Instagram TV thing or one little TV box, you can find that but I guess that's where everybody can find me.

Hell yeah, well if you want some spitting the hard truth in a beautiful way music or spitting the hard truth in a mystical way tarot card readings in the way you look up SG Goodman SG. Thank you so much for joining us tonight It's always good to see and talk to you and your cats and dogs.

I always like it. Thank you, Howard, and my rating Cajun and Dew. He says, thank you so much for having. All right. Right on. Thank you. Have a good one. All right.

Well, producer Matt, start throwing some comments up here, whatever if you got them. We'll close this thing out. Yeah, I've got a lot of very impassioned views on country music and all that just. as a fan. But I think she's got the right attitude. I think what she said is 100% right. Like, who gives a fuck what I call myself? Because they're going to call me something regardless.

So why does it even matter? Yeah. Go ahead. Oh, yeah, putting things in categories is the thing humans do that sometimes doesn't make any sense. Yeah. James L. Johnson says, tarot cards in Baptist Control, Kentucky.

Good luck, L.O.L. Okay, you know what? And SG's gone already. but I'll tell you my experience with tarot cards. I've had one tarot card reading in my life, and it was in Clay County, my hometown. I was 19 years old, like the year after I graduated high school, there was this lady that lived out on Arcott.

They said, Arcott's a road, but you don't live on Arcott Road. You live out on Arcott, right, in Clay County. And there was this lady out on Arcott, who was a psychic who did tarot card readings. and she was like she was she could have been that little lady from poltergeist mark you remember the little the little woman from poltergeist the mystic woman she uh she looked and sounded a lot like her and i didn't know she was a big deal but i guess in that region she's kind of a big deal because i then when i moved to cookville and it would ever come up people would be like oh you're from you're from

Clay County, you're from Salina? Did you ever get read by Miss, whatever? And people would drive to Clay County to get tarot read by this woman out on Arcot. And I tell you this, and look, I'm not a believer in that type of mysticism necessarily or whatever, but I'll tell you this. I'll tell you two things that she told me that I remember. She probably told me 18 other things that I don't remember that didn't happen. But two things I remember she told me. the first one was she told me that my grandfather was going to die within six months time and he did but i didn't you know no i didn't do nothing with that information because i didn't believe it to be true and the second thing she told me was uh that i was going to be famous one day so big swing and a miss on that one

she whiffed on that one hard but uh yeah you know i don't know i don't know i'm just saying redneck present from Salat. Well, yeah, without a doubt. But anyway, there's some, you know, I don't know, I'm just saying, Redneck Baptist, they can get down with some tarot shit in my experience. Actually, on that note,

we've got another comment from Green Acres Bloom from YouTube says, there's nobody more into mystical stuff than Southern Christian kids. Thank you for that, because you just backed up exactly what I was saying. In my experience, that is true. People ate that shit up, man.

my dear sweet son of this deaconess mother in the in the 90s when coming off the back of the Titanic Panic and people were still thought you know that we're still being taught that like kiss stood for kids in Satan's service night yeah yeah yeah yeah there's a few that they were telling us the yoga was you know un-Christian at that time too anyway so um there was a thing about Harry Potter books how like we people were burning Harry Potter books because it's teaching children to get into witchcraft right yeah so my mom was like, oh, word, I'm worried. She said she went to read Harry Potter to see it was going to get kids into witchcraft. She had reading all seven books or whatever. We just loved Harry Potter. Yeah, yeah, Jack A. Rally, man. She'll grab you by the horn.

Gray Resnick from, I think, YouTube says, did you see Congressman Sherrod ripping, ripen, did you see Congressman Sherrod ripping it on the Republicans? I did not, Mark. Do you know what you're talking about? I saw a clip yesterday in the Senate floor about masks or something, and Ted Cruz called him a... Ted Cruz said he was virtue signaling for yelling at Republicans for not wearing masks

because they were all said the senators are sitting far apart, but there's staff sitting right in front of them, but I guess they don't count as people. So they don't, you know... Yeah. It's a producer Matt says he asked the guy from Alaska for not wearing a mask. He went into the Alaskan congressman for not wearing a mask. I like Chirot Brown, man.

Yeah, I do too. I don't agree with him. He's a little too centristy for me. I've been a couple issues, but personally, he's an entertaining guy. He speaks his mind, which is a breath of fresh air in the modern Democratic Party. Yeah, 100%. All right. Jeff Bridges.

Oh, my God, Jeff Bridgett. Big fan. We're both big fans. I'm so honored that you're here tonight. I'll look for a Mouski t-shirt today. Yes, the dude himself, everybody, Jeff Bridges, the one and only. Says, I just checked out your music, and I love it. me and Mark don't make music.

I know what you mean. You're talking to SG. Just checked out your music and I love it. I'm in Louisville, Kentucky and I love to see a local make it. Yes, everybody, make sure you check her shit out. It's very, very good. There's a whole lot, well, no, there are. There are a whole lot of really good, genuine, fucking country-tight people.

I only say that because Americana is a thing. But, like, I'm annoyed by the existence of the genre. for reasons I've already talked about. But since that is what everyone refers to it as, there's countless wonderful Americana artists out there that people need to check out who are giving the real side of the South and rural America and all that and not all that fucking Luke Bryan, Nashville, country radio bullshit.

Full beard never broke my heart, right? Brooke McLean says, grassly tested positive. He's like 90. Yeah, they just keep testing positive. Seems like. Weird. Weird how that works. People that don't take it seriously.

Keep getting it. Yeah, there's like 10 Republican congressmen have it right now. And they're all pretty old. I know they get the best treatment. Statistically, one I'm not going to make it. Something you said earlier, Trey, I'm going to tell you one, you want an argument. So I guess Tucker Cross,

just now roasted Sidney Powell and called her conspiracy theorists. So maybe the article. I think it's coming from up high at Fox News. Like I think they're getting like direction to start pivoting or something. And like from where I'm standing, I'm like, I don't know how that's going to work out for y'all because I don't know, I feel like I don't know all that many like people that would watch Fox News that are reasonable enough to stick with.

Fox News while all the zealots go to Newsmax. Do you know what I mean? So I don't know how that's going to play, but good for them, I guess. Yeah, there's an open. Eric B. says, why can't Congress push a relief package already?

That's a great question. A question that's been valid for fucking four or five months now or more? Because they can't do shit. The main answer is they don't care. And two, I wouldn't sign it because he's going to punish us for voting him out.

Yeah. He's a, he's a, you know, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, uh, uh, uh, hell have no fury like a, uh, Trump scorned, you know? Yeah, man. Um, yeah, I don't, uh, they're not, I don't, uh, they're not, I don't expect anything to, like, happen or get done between now and the time Donald Trump leaves. office in my opinion. I don't see it. Oh, actually,

real quick, it's completely unrelated, but I just remembered, I wanted to make sure and say this tonight. Today is November 19th. Yesterday was Ma Ma'amaw's 82nd birthday. So I want to give a big happy birthday to my Ma'am. I talked to her yesterday, she said, among many other things, she said to me,

I wish somebody just knocked that old so-and-so's head off. And she was talking about Donald Trump, and I was like, Ma'am, I don't know if you have to do the so-and-so. if you're going to, you know, or actually I guess maybe it is a good idea trying to keep the FBI off her back. But anyway, she's holding it down up there in Clay County, Tennessee at 82 years old. So happy birthday to my me-mom. Happy birthday, me-mo.

That's right. Let's see here. What else we got, Matt? You got anything else for us for we head on out of here? Somebody has asked an interesting question of comments. will they will they because the government's going to not be funded anymore if they don't pass a spinning bill by 11 right so how how how how how how how but hurt is trump i mean dude i like there's been what two actual government shutdowns in the past four years or something like that that each last like a certain because i remember when i used to when my old day job was working for the federal government and i remember we got shut down for a little while and that was

fucking act of the worst shit that was Obama years. That wasn't Trump because I never worked under Trump's government thankfully to you people. But anyway, I'm just saying it's happened before in much more much less

turmoil than we have right now. So yeah, it seems like a distinct possibility to me. But usually they keep that, the government shuts down, but they have enough, like there's like essential personnel and stuff that they can keep on the job and whatnot even when things

get shut down, you know, that like, I don't think we're all going to die. What they do is... What they do is they label everyone an essential worker. Yeah. But... Yeah, pretty much. So, you know, it's like the office jobs in the federal government

that are like the people that work have energy don't go to work. We will end on this one. Until next Tuesday, Scott Pascal says, does Biden indict Trump. Now, real quick, Mark, I want to tell you, I saw an article, it was an op-ed, can't remember if it was

the Washington Post of New York. It was some big publication. There was an op-ed in and it said that Joe Biden should pardon Donald Trump because, and the reason they gave, and he was like, and Democrats should applaud it. And the reason they gave was

because accepting a pardon is admitting guilt in a way and you're never going to get him to admit guilt otherwise and also it wouldn't necessarily keep him from being prosecuted on some of the state level charges so we could still get him anyway

so it's trying to get trying to get him to admit guilt while still opening up things for some or for you know another avenue down the road. I ain't with that at all. I'd love to see. I throw the fucking book at him as far as I concerned but what do you think Mark should Biden do it? Will

he do it? Will anyone do it? What will happen with all that, you find? Well, in general, elite impunity is a horrific disease in our society. And it's like, for example, the biggest type of theft that happens in America by far, it's not, you know, stealing checks or robbing people or stealing from the store that's wage theft, right? It's people not paying people for work they did. And it's not a criminal violation. The only only recourse is to go to court and sue never get in trouble for it.

That should be absolutely against the law to have people work for you and not pay them, right? That should be criminal violation. That's sort of like impunity for people with money is like across. Like Nixon didn't get in trouble for Watergate. Nobody got in trouble in parted for a rant contra. Bill Clinton didn't resign when he should have for all his bullshit. Nobody went to jail for torture. Nobody went to jail for the financial crisis.

At some point, we got to figure out a way to send a message to future would be bad actors that there's consequences for fucking around. And I think with that question was asking to, is there a article yesterday where it said, like, Biden essentially said he wouldn't meddle in the Justice Department, and people took that as him saying that Trump won't face consequences. And I think that's

bullshit. I don't think that means, I don't think one means the other. There's already a bunch of investigations in motion that Biden wouldn't have control over, which is fine. I don't want the president personally prosecuting people, but there should be criminal consequences for committing crimes. They just saw there's like

the New York State, New York, state investigations have expanded to some tax fraud around consulting fees that went to Avon. So, like, there's going to do stuff that has nothing to do with the federal government that absolutely be in trouble for because if I can make a crime, I'm going to jail. What makes them a lot more special than me? And I don't want to give me the answer. A lot of things, Mark. But, all right, well, there you go.

You heard it here. You heard it here last, everybody. We'll see y'all on Tuesday. We're not going to have a show next Thursday. Obviously, it's Thanksgiving and everybody be thankful and all that good shit. But we will be here Tuesday with none other than renowned Kansas journalist, Ms. Sarah Smarse. It's going to be a good show. We'll see y'all then.

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