wellRED podcast - Evening Skews - Week of October 13, 2020

Episode Date: October 19, 2020

Me and Smart Mark have a grand old time talking shit about Amy Coney Barrett and the good people of Alaska. Not ALL of them or nothin, but trust me, once you hear this story you're gonna look at Alaska a little differently. At any rate, it's a good time! Check er out! Final note: Stick with us through the brief technical difficulties up top please. Tis but a matter of seconds and we are just so computerdumb. Thank ye. 

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Hello. Now he's back. Can you hear me Mark? Yeah, you were frozen on my end too. So we're back. Hey, I'm here. Now your sound's gone. Are you serious?

Now I hear you. All right. Ah, okay. Fuck the internet. And on that note, let's do the daily dumbass. I'm very concerned now that this just isn't working, given how it has started out. So hopefully we'll start seeing some. Yeah, it says the page is unresponsive.

If people can hear me, God damn it. If you can hear me, I'm going to try to restart this and hope it works. So we're going to leave and come back. I'm very sorry this is happening. I don't know what's happening, but I'm going to try to fix it. Do you still hear me, Mark? Yeah.

Okay, all right. Yeah, I'm getting an error message, so I'm going to try to restart the whole thing and hope it's okay. So I'll forgive the false start. I'll be back to this. People are getting comments, people saying they can hear us.

I don't know. Okay. Oh, they all they all just popped up at once. Okay, all right. Yeah, I was getting no comments at all on here. Yeah, sorry for this, y'all. I don't know. Technical difficulties.

What are you going to do? We might be screaming to the void trail. What's different? Yeah, you're right. I'm very accustomed to screaming into the void. So yeah, sorry about that. I hope it's okay now. So let's get into it, start the show. As always, we start with a dumb-ass report. And tonight's honorary for the second time is apparently yours truly again. It seems I owe America an apology.

Because earlier this very day, you know, a few hours ago, I, in a temporary but truly unfortunate lapse of judgment, made the grievous and unforgivable error of referring to a three-named woman by only her initials. I don't know what I was thinking when I called Amy Coney-Brett ACB. I just hope you can find it in your hearts to forgive me and that you believe me when I say I've grown as a man and as a human and as a father since that time. And I will endeavor to be better going forward. Also, I was hacked. I'm a good Christian, and I choose now to live as a gay man. No, look, I don't know what y'all

I want me to say. I know it's not all of y'all, but I got a lot of flack for this earlier, and I'm not about to go on some tirade about cancel culture and all this type of shit. I'm not going to do that. I still love you guys. But I just, I do want to say, like, come on, man, what do you want for me?

I'm sorry. I didn't mean to, there was no ulterior motive to me calling her ACB, okay, whatsoever. I was just literally just in the, interest of brevity, okay? Why use 15-letter when three-letter do trick? That's all that was as far as I thought about it. I didn't mean nothing bad. I didn't mean to offend or upset people by bringing to mind comparisons to venerable and deceased Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg. That's not what I was doing. And I, you know, I hope y'all believe that. But also, like I said, I'm not going to just go in on y'all,

but, you know, come on. Somebody y'all need to chill out a little bit. You know me better than that. I wasn't up to no bullshit. And I don't know what else to say. I mean, people are mad because they were trying to sell notorious ACB T-shirts, right, right, after RBG died. And I guess they, right, I guess it's been done on the other side. The other side is calling her ACB a lot. And people on the left have taken offense at that because they feel like it's co-opting the RBG thing or her legacy or whatever. Yeah.

I get, you know, I get that. I hear you. That, I wasn't. It's literally just her initials. Like, I, you know, I gave no thought to that side of it whatsoever. I literally was just, it was a simpler, faster way to get it out there into the world. But, Lord knows, I apologize. I've learned my lesson.

You guys taught me real quick. I don't really mind calling her Barrett, but I'm not saying Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. Every time I'm going with AOC just because I... Okay, but see, I feel like AOC is totally fine because, like, she's, you know, not a direct disciple, but, you know, because, you know what I mean? Like, they're on the same. She's, like, on the coaching tree of RGB, right? So it's AOC's apparently okay, but ACB is not.

And for the record, and we're going to talk a lot more about Amy Coney Barrett here shortly. But obviously, I'm not a fan. Believe me, we're about to go in on her in multiple different ways. But, yeah, I just wanted to, I just wanted to address, address this latest scandal. in uh in my professional life but um i also do want to show you guys though the other the other candidate we had for the daily dumbass before this all came up uh just because i just i don't know i enjoyed this i found this funny uh you never believe it who is it who else but the president himself so here we go in fact a point that they didn't report i've been i guess

three or four maybe now. Nobel Peace Prizes, can you believe it? Four, three. You're wondering the reason they have reported that's because the actual number of Nobel prizes he's won is zero. Zero. Can't even keep count with all the Nobel Peace Prize. He's won.

What was it? Three, four, four, three. Who knows? Can you believe it? What I thought was funny was he gave himself four and then he downgraded what he was giving himself to three. Like, you're going to just go with eight. or 23, it gives a shit.

Set the record. So let's talk briefly about him and that and his return to the campaign trail and everything before we get into the Supreme Court stuff. Like, he's on drugs, right? Some kind of, like, and I don't just mean like just medicine for the COVID stuff, obviously that. But he's on some kind of drugs that have like, you know,

drugs type effects, right? Because this is my, he's out here. He's dancing. He's talking about kissing people. he was, you know, the other day, he was talking about how, how, here's the quote, I feel so powerful. I'll walk into that audience. I'll walk in there. I'll kiss everyone in that audience.

I'll kiss the guys and the beautiful women and the, and the everybody. I'll just give everybody a big fat kiss. That's drugs talk. The people that, you know, like, mainstream news doesn't like been able to crack this one, but a bunch of people around him have said that he was, I mean, he was open about taking a bunch of of speed and diet pills in the 80s. He used to have a doctor to prescribe it to him. Now that became illegal, but there was a,

there was a picture that went viral in the campaign when he was still working out of Trump Tower. We had his drawer open. It was a bunch of European diet pills. Yeah. He was still getting the Ephedrine shipped in from Europe. So, and then of course, people say that either the Adderall and all that, I don't know anything about that.

I see it appears to be conflicting with the steroids in really interesting ways for his personality. Right. But also, and we talked about this before, like the general, Like, the angle he's taken to where he's coming from, though, is very much to be expected. Like, you know, as we said in the last episode, I knew, as soon as he contracted it, I knew it would end up being a version of this. Like, he'll, he will get over it. You know, he's the president.

Even though he's fat and old, he's the president, he will get over it. And when this particular motherfucker gets over this particular disease, you know how that's going to play out. He's going to be downplaying it, talking about how strong he is. Doctors have never seen the like, Mark. They've never seen an immune system like his. He's going to pass all the COVID tests from here on out. He's going to be demanding Joe Biden have multiple COVID tests. Like, who knows?

It's going to be ridiculous. And it already is. Yeah, I mean, a nurse made this point, but, like, he got crisis intervention treatment when he first started showing symptoms, but the rest of us could not get. Like, you, if you go to the hospital with real bad breathing, they'll send you home and tell you to come back when you need a ventilator, right? But he just got a little bit of a sniffle. and they put him on these Hail Mary treatments that are the best in the world

and literally no one else ever got. So yeah, he was probably always going to be fine. Although, you know, you guys making fun of me in a group chat, you know, for believing. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, you know, I guess he's not out of the woods yet. I mean, that's happened with other COVID patients. They seem to get better and then get worse.

So, I mean, where he's concerned, fingers crossed, I guess. I don't know. I'll see what happens. But I hadn't actually thought about it. this particular way until you brought that up just now. I mean, I had thought about the fact that he had access to all this other treatment. I mean, of course it is, he's president. But also, then him coming, him interpreting that in his mind as, yeah, I whipped this virus's ass, boy.

This virus don't want none of me. Like, I hadn't thought about how that is such a snapshot of the mindset of the Trump types in the world. That whole, like, you were born on third base and think you. you hit a triple thing, you know, like ascribing things that happened to you to your enormous amount of inherent ability and aptitude and whatnot when really it's just pure circumstance and it's just a matter of what you were born into. Like, of course, he feels this way about COVID after having that experience. It's how he feels about being a billionaire and being president and everything else in his life.

Yeah, I mean, we're all the stars of our own movie, right? He just takes it to a ridiculous degree. But it's like you ever watch I remember behind the music was big You watch it behind the music Every behind the music is the same moment Where somebody in the band goes And that's when I knew we were going to make it

Yeah Yeah It's like I looked at him right in the face And I said that's the number one record Yeah Gord's like you don't see behind the music About all the bands who said that And nothing happened

Yeah exactly Yeah You wouldn't be in a band if you didn't think you could make it Everybody thinks they're going to make it Everybody who gets COVID assumes they're coming out of it. Right. I've had when, like, me and the guys, Corrin, and Drew, whatever,

have had, like, sketch ideas and stuff before, like, funny song ideas. I used to do this thing where I'd stop it, I'd be like, hey, that's a number one record. Why'd you do that? Well, just so, in the event that it happens, I can say that I looked at you in the moment and told you that it was going to be a hit, because,

you know, watching the music as a kid put that idea in me. So, everybody read, everybody, right, Everybody write luck out of their own story completely. Absolutely. We only remember a bad luck. We don't remember the good look. That's so true.

Do you think that's like, I don't know, people want to, they feel like, people feel like acknowledging fortune or acknowledging luck is like the same thing as downplaying their own effort or like worthiness, you know? Like I feel like that's where that comes from and that's not, you shouldn't have to look at that way. Like some things you just got to have both, man. Like, it's just how it is. It don't mean you're not worth it. I mean, Trump ain't worthy. But I'm saying just generally speaking, I don't know. It's a weird thing with humans.

Yeah, I mean, there's a famous example and outliers that like all the top six richest dudes in world history before Jeff Bezos were all born in the same decade in 1850. They were just around for the Industrial Revolution, the 1850s, the railroad and steel and all that shit. If they didn't have been rich. Same thing. If Bill Gates was around the ninth year. 1920s he'd just be some nerd working in accounting firm or something. You know, it doesn't like, but everyone wants to be like, it's like if you will, if I'm lucky, then it means I'm not hardworking or talented or whatever, but that's not the case.

Not at all. You can be all three things. Right. Okay. All right. Well, let's get into Amy Coney Barrett in her confirmation hearing. Headline mark, no notes. Clean notepad.

She brought no information to the biggest meeting of her life. Didn't need any. and deserves to be lauded for it. Fox News is losing their mind in Fox News Twitter over the sheer brilliance of this woman who would dare show up to a congressional hearing with no notes at all, and then just knock it out of the park,

question after question like she did. This is how they view it. But of course, I know you feel a little bit differently about it, right? Yeah, I mean, if I ask you your opinion on something, but I know you have an opinion on you tell me you don't have opinion on it you're lying right right like she she's literally okay so here's a list of stuff a brief list of stuff she wouldn't commit to she said she doesn't have any opinion on global warming see um she she she uh she said uh she doesn't any opinion on a affordable care act

gay marriage anything about the election or abortion um she she she she clobobscher pinned her down and she wouldn't debate cloich her basically after it hang on hang on hang on hang on Hang on. Let's just watch this one. This is Klobuchar asking her about, well, you'll see, here we go. Judge Barrett, under federal law, is it illegal to intimidate voters at the poll?

Senator Klobuchar, I can't characterize the facts in a hypothetical situation, and I can't apply the law to a hypothetical set of facts. I can only decide cases as they come to me, litigated by parties on a full record, after fully engaging precedent, talking to colleagues, writing an opinion. And so I can't answer questions like that. Okay, well, I'll make it easier.

18 USC 594 outlaws anyone who intimidates, threaten, or attempts to intimidate, threaten, or coerced, and other person for the purpose of interfering with the right of such other person to vote. This is a law that has been on the books for decades. Yeah, so. Maybe she could have made a note of that, you know? So what you do there, the thing that's not a lie, but it's still bullshit, because Clochard essentially asked her, is illegal stuff illegal? And she said, I don't know, right?

Because the real juke here is what you do is you say, of course, voter intimidation is illegal. I'm aware that federal law exists. But when the case fund comes before you, you just define that as not voter intimidation. Like, yeah, I mean, they're standing 30 yards from the poll entrance. wearing a Confederate flag bandana and holding an AR-15, but who's to say if anyone would be offended, you know, intimidated by that? So that's the specific facts of a case she's talking about, but she just denied the law even exists.

She did like weird stuff like that all day. It was very weird. Well, I interrupted you to show that clip, but you were in the middle of listing off all the different times that she refused to just answer a question that had a definitive answer. Was there any more showstoppers on that list that we didn't get to before I cut you off. I mean, I know she did it over and over again. She wouldn't say that the president should commit to a peaceful transfer of power,

which she's just trying to, like, she's just trying to keep from making, getting an angry tweet from him. She, she said she'd never given any thought to disputed presidential elections. She worked on George W.'s legal team in Bush v. Gore in 2000. So, which she just admitted to stealing money in 2000. I don't understand what the point of that is.

Of course, you worked on a very famous case about disputed elections. I feel like, and I mean, I don't know what I'm about to say is, is obvious, I guess, but I feel like it's all of that stuff. You're like, what is the point of this? I think it's the same thing as, you know, why she didn't feel the need to bring notes or whatever. Like, she just, she knows what's up, you know, and she knows what's going to happen, is what I mean. Like, she's just not worried about it.

Like, I don't have to answer these questions. I don't have to be prepared, you know. We all know that I'm getting this job. my boy Mitch and then we're going to take care of it like I mean that's how I feel I don't know that's the impression I get from her with all this like why why go through the trouble of trying to like tiptoe around these divisive issues or whatever when you can just say fuck it and get the job anyway like I mean yeah why not I mean there's like an egg farm in the base from the federal society where they grow these ghouls and they know what their job is it's to do whatever they don't or say and right So like she doesn't need to know anything. She shows up and she goes, I don't have any opinion on that. When she gets in the court, she'll look at, okay, which guy, which side is the rich guy on here? And that's the one little win.

That's the whole job. She doesn't need to know. It's all motivated reasoning. And so, like, she doesn't need to have any understanding or any positions. We talk, Mark, talk a little bit about the cases, her actual cases she has ruled on in the past that involve, like, discrimination. All right. So this is going to be, all right. So here's a case she had a racial discrimination case where this guy had been fired after his boss called in the N-word.

And her opinion wrote, the N-word is an egregious racial epithet. You can feel a butt coming, right? Oh, she used the college butt, which is that said. That said, Smith can't win simply by proving that the word was uttered. He must also demonstrate that Colbert's use of this word altered all to the conditions of his employment. So you not only have to prove that you recall the inward, you have to prove that it hurt your feelings or made your workplace more threatening, which is like, seems you can't. But everybody doesn't assume she's racist because of this. But to me, it's like it's not only racist and sensitive, but she's just ruling on the employer side.

She's going to rule the employer side in any of these. That's her jobs to rule on the employer side. She had another racial case where it was a AutoZone was segregating its employees. And her ruling was essentially as long as they're separate but equal, it's okay, right? She just didn't want to rule against all that. We already have the, we've already, we've already had her cases on separate but equal. It's settled, right? Right.

Well, and on that note, she had apparently said before this also came from an exchange between her and Klobuchar, Klobuchar, where she was, speaking of separate, separate but equal, she has apparently in the past like on the record stated that uh brown uh brown v board of education is is uh super precedence right which i'm not a lawyer i don't but apparently this is like a legally accepted term amongst that that crowd there's the thing is like there's precedent and then there's super precedent and she was saying today that like we have established super precedent precedent for the unconstitutionality of segregation or whatever but the bit larger context of this was she was refusing to ascribe that same uh category to row v wade

like cloboblechar was trying to push her on it and say is roe v wade not also super precedent and she wouldn't do that she also she also wouldn't just say like yeah and fuck that decision she wasn't she wasn't like outright saying

uh you know that she disagrees with it or whatever she just wouldn't qualified in the same way. And the specific example that she used it for a comparison was, was segregation, right? But then at the same time, she has the case you just outlined with AutoZone in the past, you know, on her record as well. So yeah, a lot of red flags.

Yeah, and like this weird, the dance they do around abortion is like so weird to me because um, out long abortion is extremely unpopular. Like, it's something like, Like, depending on phrase the question, like, only like 30% of Americans are really solidly pro-life. Almost a super majority of Americans think you should be able to have an abortion up to the second trimester. The boogeyman they try to create where people are getting partial birth abortions is insane because who carries a baby for eight months and three weeks and three days and decides to get ready? You already picked out a name and painting the room by that point.

It's not being used for birth control. It's being used for like dire medical interventions if something's happening at that point. So, but like, it seems to me that like their actual, the way they think about business and regulation, employer discrimination law states and stuff is so unpopular. They pick one thing to like seem principled about, even if it's extremely unpopular because, I mean, even like, I'm firmly pro choice, but even I, when I talk to somebody's pro life, I risk the position seems principled. It's I can respect it. I don't want to do any elections, but it seems like a thing a decent person could believe. So I think they just wear that as a shirt so they can pass all these really horrible you know,

you know, anti-worker policies and anti-regulation policies because it doesn't make any electoral sense. I mean, that's why I think they would never actually overturn a robe because it'd wipe out the Republican Party for half a generation. Right. Well, also, I know, you said,

you had the statistic of only like 30% of people are hardcore pro-life. But also, you're talking about them wearing that shirt and identifying in that way. I had a conversation on someone else's podcast months ago about the other guy, the host, was super liberal, but his parents, and he's Hispanic, and his Hispanic parents were,

according to him, like, they were very, very, very Christian, very religious, and were huge Donald Trump supporters. And so the conversation we got into, I was like, dude, please explain to me how people like them do those particular mental gymnastics where Donald Trump is concerned. Like, how do they convince themselves

that he is the godly candidate because I just cannot make myself understand that? And the answer that he had was, it's abortion. Like, it's because he's pro-life. And so that, like, that's it. That makes him the godly candidate, and that's the end of the discussion

for my parents, the guy was saying. And I feel like there's probably a lot of people who have that same. That is like one of those things It's just such a wedge issue. You know what I mean? Like for something, you talk about single issue voters and stuff.

That particular one is just such a deal breaker for so many people that you can get a whole lot of mileage out of that one. If you're any kind of politician, you know? And you could ask him straight blank, do you get to ask him straightforward? Like, do you honestly believe that Trump hasn't paid for a few dozen abortions? And they'd be like, oh, yeah, of course he has. But he's like a vessel that can use. Like he's like, like, it would Steve Bannon and Colin? instrument they can use to achieve their objectives, which is just like, it's extremely cynical to me.

And I don't understand how you can be a person of faith and operate from the whole point about being a hardcore person of faith is you have first principles you adhere to. And don't operate that cynically, right? You'd think, but whatever. So I want to talk for sure about, because we're kind of, we're sort of in that area now with Tony Barrett, religion, right? And I know we talked about it before on the podcast. You were saying like I don't want to get into this whole thing of like talking about just her religious beliefs or whatever which I respect

But a lot of other people have brought have obviously brought it up on the left I'm about fundamental as she is fucking handmaid's tail type bullshit we talked about that on the show before But then something that I didn't think about because it's so far removed from my own personal life experience. I guess But was raised by Ilan Omar The from Congress who's Muslim and I probably butcher her name too but she pointed out she basically said try and tell me that if she was Muslim this wouldn't be the single biggest issue with her and her entire potential confirmation among the right like if she was if she was Muslim imagine what they would be saying about nothing else but her faith she's

like Sharia law would be trending right now she said and I mean I don't know about you but I've fully 100%. But the thing is, like, they do that shit all the time. Like, they, the blatant hypocrisy is just par for the course for them. But still, you know, that's 100% correct. Like, any other, any other fervent religious beliefs other than this one in this country would be a massive problem for them just in and of itself, completely on its own, would be enough for them to crucify it, you know, for lack of a better word.

her as a candidate. If you just took her actual, like, religious beliefs and pasted them into a document and did control, find and replace Christian with Muslim, it's the exact same beliefs. She would, they'd be screaming about Shariah Law. And, like, what's funny is, like, I don't know, people don't even seem to think about what Sharia law is or, like, even look it up. But, like, I used to work with a guy who had been, yeah, been Shariah married. He grew up half Syrian.

And what it was is like, I didn't know this, but like, you basically just say I married to you three times. I may be fucking the details, but it's like you can just say an incantation and you're married. And that's the way you could have one night stands without breaking the rules, right? So Shirai has stuff like that or you get, you can get a divorce, you can get a divorce next morning by doing the other incantation or whatever. I was watching a TV show last night. It was there was a drama sitting going to too deeply. I know how funny this says, but like this woman's spy to get out of a situation said she was in Iran. since she was in a one-night marriage and trying to cover up for some other spies that they were doing.

But Americans don't actually know this stuff. They just assume that Muslims are going to install Shariah law, which is very close to what's Kalia would want anyway. So it's very weird. This is just barely related, but it's a random memory that this has brought to mind for me that I want to share just because it pisses me off. But this reminds me of a thing I saw being passed around on Facebook a few years ago when Tim Tebow was at his peak.

of popularity the quarterback who played for University of Florida don't hit and and then later the Denver Broncos he was super Christian he did his Tebow thing he prayed to the Lord very very Christian all this and I this meme that I saw go viral amongst like people I went to high school with people on the right was like the top image was a picture of a group of Muslims praying at the like at or near the like World Trade Center site it looked like like somewhere in New York but they're praying peacefully, I presume, you know, praying for with very positive motivations and whatever else.

But it was like, it was roped off and this was allowed to happen. So the thing, at the top, it had a picture of all these Muslims praying in public. And it said, okay, so this is fine, but, and in the bottom image was Tim Tebow, like, praying in the end zone after scoring a fucking touchdown or whatever. And it was like, but this isn't. And like, who said it wasn't? Exactly. Of course it did, like, A, of course it was.

He was massively popular despite being a shitty fucking quarterback at the pro level. And B, can you imagine if a Muslim quarterback was tearing up the NFL and like getting down and praying to Allah after every touchdown or whatever? Can you imagine how they would be reacting to that, right? Like, it's ridiculous. But you can't, but I don't know, you can't point out that. types of things to them because I mean hell even if they were inclined to admit it it's like well yeah but you know this is a

Christian nation founded by Christians upon Christian principles so it makes sense that it's that way like they think that even though also completely not true yeah half the founding fathers are pagans yeah Christianity didn't hit for them there's that famous quote

for like the Treaty of Tripoli after the War of 1812 or whatever that starts out with them saying the United States is not in any sense a Christian nation or founded upon the precepts of Christianity. Like they laid it out in text formally for everybody, but we still have to live with this fucking, you know, God's country bullshit. It drives me crazy. Thomas Jefferson rewrote the Bible to take all the miracles out because he thought they were bullshit. Only thing anybody's ever done with the Bible that hit for me pretty much is that. He did his own

snatter cut of the Bible. Well, the thing is, man, and this has been, pointed out a million times, but like, that's what everybody does who fucks with the Bible. You know what I mean? That's what they all do, is just redact all the parts they don't like and highlight the parts they do like. It's just Thomas Jefferson had the balls to literally just do that and say, yeah, I'm keeping these parts. Fuck all that other shit. Yeah. By the way, I mean, Tebow's public image is very evangelical, and he was famously a virgin. I'm not trying to lose all our games, but, area listeners here. We'll skate through this real quick.

But his best friend of the team was Aaron Hernandez, who was a mass murderer. So, yeah. But he don't get me started on Tim Taylor. But the, you know, this is okay, but this isn't like, it's like the persecution complex. It's insane. I don't get the Tebow praise in his own. I don't, I have no, they can pray if he wants. He can kneel all he wants.

I don't give a shit. Dude, you're not like, you're not allowed to care. I mean, I wouldn't care anyway, but I'm saying the idea that that whole war on Christianity thing, like that they are persecuted is just so outrageous and asinine to me as somebody who grew up in the deep south. Like, dude, you're not, you're straight up not allowed to be uncomfortable because of Christianity or praying or whatever like that. Like, I'm not trying to, you know, no, we're the ones who are persecuted. I'm not claiming persecution from anywhere. I don't give a fuck. I'm saying when they do it, it blows my mind.

No one is less persecuted in this country than white Christian conservatives. Nobody. It's like the whirl on Christmas. It's just totally made up for like one target somewhere and asked your employees to try to remember to say happy holidays. And that became like a national 20-year-long scandal. I remember one time when I was in high school when I worked at a grocery store bagging groceries, this little community of Muslims in my little town that they were the I don't know what particular denomination or sector what everyone call it they were but the women were the full

hijabs right and I'm just bagging their groceries I'm not thinking and I go to hand in her groceries and go Merry Christmas and you know what they did what they said thank you it went on the page right because here's a thing it doesn't matter what you're actually saying what I'm trying to say is have a good time yes exactly you're wishing positive tidings yes to the other person. That's it. That's your intent, which is all that's your matter. So, but they're trying, but they're trying to fake persecution hustle all day to day where they, the Republicans in the committee were trying to pick fights about her faith. It's like, right.

You believe the disparaging about your faith and like no one's actually doing that. I know with that. I know that's what I'm saying. That's what started this whole part of the conversation was because they were doing that, which is what prompted Omar to say, just imagine she was Muslim and think what would happen then, you know? like she's not she's not being persecuted for being a Catholic or whatever the hell it is that she is like yeah this is a case in point example of that that persecution complex that Christians have like it I do really think I'm not and I'm not questioning Amy Amy Coney Barrett's faith at it at all but I do think that people are funding all this it's mostly about the money and for example the

the Koch brothers are famously personally pro choice right but 250 million and dark money has been spent to on a campaign to try to install all these judges and Shelton Edelson today we got some uh there's some few video clips floating around he didn't bother asking her any questions because there was no point to that obviously he just had a bunch of sharks pointing out the cash flow between all these different organizations to the federal society to the people who pick the judges and they're all the same people and they they can keep saying and install any company bear it's not about destroying the ACA or overturning row but all the people who are choosing these judges who work at the federal society,

written opinion after opinion after opinion, op-ed after op-ed after op-ed, that this is what should happen, and then the people who picked her. It's all they care about. And so, like, if you take the coconut brothers out the word, that they're pro-choice, and you've got to wonder why they're installing this lady,

and it doesn't do with Roe, it has to do with putting lead in your drinking water to make your kids' ears fall off or whatever. Yeah, I mean, no, I'm fully on board with the notion that at the end of the day, it all only comes down to money and capitalism for them. For the people at the top, the people actually pulling the strings.

They blow these fucking, you know, social issues, horns, trumpets and stuff just to get, but like, ultimately it's all about the money. Yeah, I mean, another story today, there's a, the Koch brothers, one of their AstroTurf organizations, it has national civil liberties something.

Maybe they'd say they're trying to sound like the ACLU, but they're absolutely the opposite. opposite. They got the Trump administration agreed to lift their half-ass eviction ban so 40 million evictions are back on and like literally their main their mission statement is to get rid of the Chevron doctrine which we talked about a couple episodes ago

about how the entire regulatory state rests upon that and there will be no intellectual foundation to keep drinking water clean or human meat out of your food or whatever if they are successful in overturn that. So that's the thing. Okay. A couple

more things at least before we get to the comments here in about 10 minutes. First of all, the Supreme Court, back on them, they've ruled to allow the Trump administration to shut down the census early, basically, which what that means is, wouldn't you know it? People of color, poor people will be the ones, are disadvantaged by this and the ones who are not counted ultimately. And again, you know, what else is new? But still unfortunate. Yeah. I mean, it's a, the thing is like, the only person who I'm not really clear of the dissent was written by a Sotomayor and she's the only person who signed it I'm not sure if anyone else I did the box explainer said two other justices

could have dissented but it wouldn't be I don't I don't really understand the Supreme Court works but so I don't know what K if Kagan and Briar were like even like at work that day but this is a transparent power grab to make sure white people have more representation and resources so it's all it is yeah and that and under the guys of it being COVID related, right? Like, that's the rationale they use. Like, well, we can't, we can't finish it. There's a pandemic going on.

And the court was just like, yeah, you can't finish it. There's a pandemic going on. It's like a war within the Commerce Department where like, because it was supposed to be completed in July and they asked for a bunch more time because of the pandemic. And the civilian, the political leadership was like, no, it's over. And so there's like an interval with like the bureaucrats like, no, we need more time. We actually want to do a good job. Yeah.

All right. And then the other thing, and I want, I want you to educate us all on this. So apparently this is supposed to be Trump's October surprise. There's been an October surprise coming for a long time. And that has shaken out recently, right? And it has to do with Obama and spying and that whole thing. And why don't you just bring us up to speed on that, Mark? so you remember the early days of Trump

Trump presidency when he was ranting and raving about like his Obama wiretapping him so that guy old Trump's head early days dude he still brings it up all the fucking time yeah and then the Mueller report like this is all

based on illegal illegal investigation now he sees things is for him or against him sorry I'm a dog's having a good time right here that's all right you can hear the uh So for context, you should remember that a counterintelligence investigation to try to track Russian influence in American campaigns. The goal would be to protect the Trump campaign from being infiltrated and embarrassed, right?

So that was their goal. It was not trying to catch the Trump campaign doing anything fucked up. They're trying to warn them that Russians are trying to draw them in and doing fucked up shit, right? So that's the beginning of it. The thing about this unmasking stuff where, you know, so. my understanding how this works is like when you when you have a some you you have a signal in it so signals intelligence is intercepted right you have a transcript of a printout of a conversation

between like the russian ambassador and person x right to try to keep this a political the uh intelligence apparatus will blank out the names so so there's no names in the report you just see the activity and then if you want to see who the person's talking to if it feels important the political official can ask for the person be unmasked so you know who the phone conversation of us. Now, the reason it's done that way is you literally don't know who you're unmasking until after they're unmasked. Do you know what I'm saying? Right. So definitionally, Trump Jr. and Kushner and Trump couldn't have been targeted by this because they wouldn't have known there were actually people on the phone, right? So the whole thing's bullshit.

Anyway, so Trump had this guy, I named Durham, this Durham investigation going on and another a couple others. And so today, one of them, but Barr announced he's not going to be charges related to the unmasking. And the guy who, the U.S. attorney was in charge of it, delivered his report quietly and then resigned and went off to do other shit because he was tired of it. It's all pointless. Yet another thing, fake thing blew up with Trump's face. And we can thank God that this guy didn't, you know, betray his country and try to frame Joe Biden for a crime. Right. But so, okay, correct me if I'm wrong on this. also it's pointless what I'm about to say, but I'm going to say it anyway.

The result of this should be that that is dropped, right? The whole, like, Obama spying on him and that whole thing. Like, he had his own guys looking at it, and they came out and formally said, yeah, there's nothing there. And then quit their jobs because I didn't want to do with the bullshit, which I respect. But, like, that's what should come of this, right? But, of course, it won't. Like, he's not going to just let it go away. And because it's a big nothing burger for them,

I'm sure they'll try to, you know, hide the fact as much as possible that these results even came out and just keep spouting the same shit over and over. But it's just another example of them having been essentially proven incorrect about one of their biggest dog whistle bullshit things. And you know they're going to keep blowing it, right? Like they're going to keep doing the same thing or saying the same shit. Yeah. I mean, we got three weeks till the election. Yeah. And like, it's crazy.

it's October 13th, right? Where's the October surprise? Buddy. It's so wild. It's so wild to me that it's like four almost there. Three weeks of the election.

Like 10 million people have already voted. Yeah, good. If you're going to drop the super secret thing that's going to like swing the election. Right. Buddy, come on. Pretty soon. Yeah.

Brief note, sort of on the subject of the election. I'm sure people are aware already, but because of Trump and COVID and all that, they're not going to have another in-person debate, which they shouldn't. Again, I hope to never see another debate featuring that motherfucker. But

what they are doing, the candidates are holding opposing town halls, basically, which I don't know how much preferable that is to the alternative, just because it's just them getting to just each do their own thing and just spout.

their own bullshit with no kind of resistance whatsoever. But that's what's going to happen this Thursday, which was supposed to be when the second debate happened. Biden and apparently Trump are going to have their own town halls. Is Trump going to talk to actual voters? That's what's going to happen at this? I don't know because the thing I saw was said that Biden has his like planned and is happening and it's actually at the same time the skew start.

We'll see how that goes. but that the Trump administration had basically indicated they were going to do a similar thing, but the article I was reading didn't have the full details on how, you know, he was going to go about it. But, dude, I have to assume that if it is some kind of town hall thing, if there's people there asking him, but he's holding on his own accord, like, he ain't going to get, it's going to be just softball city if he gets questions from actual Americans. Yeah, I mean, I don't I mean, all this happened

to remind everybody because they're supposed to have the debate that night and Trump refused to show up for the debate so Biden's like, well, I'll still show up and I'll talk to people. And I was like, okay, well, I will show up but to another place. Yes, that's correct. Yeah. So I'm saying, you know it's not like he he doesn't play by the rules in the debates.

You know what I mean? Like he you know it's going to be some bullshit. Whatever, whatever they end up holding. He's not going to be. taken to task by the people he ostensibly represents and the American electorate. It's like, that ain't going to happen. I can guarantee it. But either way, something will happen Thursday night.

So I guess we'll just see how it goes. All right. In about three, four minutes, I want to go to the comments and engage with some people, see what they're talking about. I think earlier when I was talking about Sheldon White House, I might have said Sheldman Madelson because I only know two Sheldon. You know what? You did. Yeah.

You did. But what's funny is, because I know in our note and our shared notes that we keep on the run up to the show, you had said Sheldon White House in there. And then when you got to it, you said Adelson. And in my head, I was like, I thought the other one was the accident. So it was Shelton White House? Yeah. Yeah.

So America has three Sheldons, right? You got Sheldon White House. He's the good Sheldon. Sheldon. Yeah. And then Young Sheldon. Young Sheldon. The boy genius from CBS sitcom.

Yes. Chuck Laurie's Empire. Absolutely. Don't we all just love Young Sheldon, don't we? Okay. Anyway, so in a couple of minutes

I go to the comments and talk to people and all that and that's good. But I have to ask you for your reaction mark to, frankly, the biggest headline of the day, which is that...

Carol Baskins won? Doc Antle, the true villain, according to Yahoo News, the true villain of Tiger King, Doc Antle, has been arrested on 46 counts of animal cruelty charges. And for people that don't know, I think you said it on a very early episode,

for people that don't know or don't remember, Mark is basically from the Doc Antle part of the world. So I just really want to get your reaction to this groundbreaking news. So, one, something pretty fucked up about our country where you can get in trouble for trafficking a bunch of big cats, but not his actual human sex slaves. Right. But so his big zoo is in Myrtle Beach,

but he's, when he was traveling around with his tigers doing shows, because he was, he's the Wrangler. Remember those 80s? There's Exxon Tiger commercial in the 80s? Those are his tigers, right? So he would do public appearances with them. A lot of Exxon's are still tiger markets,

at least in Tennessee. it's still a thing. Yeah, but I remember the commercials with the tigers are come running and all those are Doc Annal's Tiger. So I'm from Buckingham County, Virginia, where there's this yoga retreat, sex cult, called Yogoville,

where Doc Annal lived. He was actually to go look at Washington Post article about the opening of Yogaville by this, this yoga, millionaire yogi who like, you know, give the opening implication of Woodstock. Doc Anno lived there for a while. That's where he got into East

and religions and got certified as PhD and I don't know brain hallucinate uh moving things with mind or whatever anyway so then he left yoga he left yoga bill and started his own thing in Myrtle beach when he decided to get his own franchise sex cult uh so uh just truly weird guy um yeah good luck good luck doc not your real name yeah not a doctor right he's like what he's like a doctor of emotions or something I don't mean it was something equally ridiculous that he claimed to be a doctor of in that documentary but

Doctor of Astero Projection or some shit Yeah so it was like it wasn't far off from that it was something pretty close to that absurd So alright let's see what we got going over here What you guys are up to Uh uh

da da da da da da do uh okay sorry I'm still still looking is this guy Donna Denison from YouTube says this guy redneck Yuri Geller

he's not redneck at all in my opinion despite where he operates at he's like I didn't get redneck tendencies from Doc Antle and I mean that as a pejorative like the fact that he don't have him like I would respond to him more positively

if he did have some redneck tendency to me personally no I don't know where Doc's really he grew up the ponytail and he got a safari hat Bagavan Antples, we change his name too, by the way. Doc's just his nickname.

So is Bhagavan, by the way. So is Bhagavon, by the way. So I don't even know. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Mark, Christy Stofel says, what's a sex cult and how do I join? Well, cult's only coming two basically varieties,

sex cult and death cult. So don't pick a death one and you'll be in a sex one. There's not really a cult where people just kind of hang out and chill. you either give up all your money and die or you give up all your money and your sexual freedom. Here's a fun fact for everybody. Might be interested in this information. Gina Vermiliongillinger says,

you can be a doctor of the universe by paying the universal life church for it. So that's good to know. Could be worth it. Doctor of the universe. He's originally from Salinas, California, by the way. Okay. All right.

Let's see here. All right. You can't read the whole comment, but Christopher Xavier Lazzano on Facebook says, Trey, please get the word out that nursing homes are not helping seniors vote. I'm helping my mom in San Antonio, Texas, so much bullshit. No one helping them register or helping them mail their ballots. Only family keeping on top of the nursing home and asking for names, days, times, and it was done to help mom.

Obviously, it's purely anecdotal, but I completely, I totally believe that, and that is something that people should be aware of. so thanks for bringing that to our attention. Yeah, you know, I'm sure people are, we got some flack recently on an episode here, Mark,

for being ages talking about old people and Trump, but we clarified multiple times. We weren't saying they all like Trump. Of course they don't. And every American should have the right to vote. And I feel like nursing homes, you know, can fuck old people over in so many different ways. This certainly shouldn't be one of them.

Yeah, my great odds has passed in one. And they were not very kind of. her and my mom will go visit her and yell at them. Yeah. I'm assuming this is about sex cults. Liz Vinas says, boring here in California. That's all been going on six to 60s.

Yeah. And they murdered people too. Remember that, Liz? Yeah. California sex cults just murdering pregnant people and stuff. So that was a sex and death cult, Mark. They mixed the tooth. They conflated them.

Yeah, yeah. I mean, there's no judgment here about the sex staff. I'm just saying, like, Have the words that you want. Just don't take away people's passports they can't leave. It's one of those and I do this sometimes

and sometimes I question whether I should do this or not because I just rely so heavily on smart Mark here. I don't know what he's talking about, but I'm putting it up there anyway. Alex Walker says talk about the regeneron cure. You know what that is, Mark? Well, regenerons, that's the antibody cocktail that gave Trump, I think.

And he's been touting it as a cure. He did a little infomercial for it on his Twitter videos. And it turns out he has him and his buddies. I want a bunch of steak in a company that does it. But the doctors swear they gave it to him, and he seems better so far. Maybe it works. I mean, look, we all hope there's going to be a treatment that is a racist. I'm not rooting for the treatment to be bad.

If something legitimately did cure him, I mean, frankly, that's great if it means it can cure everybody else, too. You know, it's still good news. He's also, he's been saying that he volunteered, like, his blood was so perfect that, uh, that he volunteered to give his blood to make the cure. And he said, they did my DNA test and he came back USA instead of DNA. There goes my hero, Mark. There goes my. All right.

Lori Buchan says, Trache, you show us the rest of your t-shirt. Yeah. It's one of my absolute favorite t-shirt says all y'all in a rainbow font. And it's from the bitter southerner. I'm glad you brought it up, Lori. If people don't know, you should definitely check out. bitter southerner. What I've always said about them is that they're like, it's sort of like if my worldview was a website. It's kind of an online magazine. It's really, really good journalism,

great stories about the South, but not the stereotypical South, the other side of the South that people don't know about. It's very well done. Shout out to my man Chuck Reese, who's the editor-in-chief there. This is the third of these shirts that Chuck has sent me, me and Chuck are boys and he knows that I like this shirt. He's had to send me three of them because my fat ass keeps staining them with red wine or red sauce from lasagna or you name it. But I always have to keep one of these in the wardrobe because yeah, I love this shirt. Kind of sums me up, I feel like. I got one. Actually, you got me one. We did the, uh, whenever, in one of our Facebook video series is they sent us to the sponsor us. Yeah. I got a t-shirt out of

a deal. Sylvia Rossi from YouTube says, can you give me your take on how the anti- abortion stuff can justify the stem cell treatment that Trump took. Yeah. So the regeneron, I think he got a couple different things. I think this is still the regeneron that was developed using fetal stem cells from abortion. And pro-life people came on and said they're fine with it. In this one particular case, they're absolutely fine with fetal stem cells. Well, yeah, and that's what I was going to say.

Like, I mean, I hear where you're coming from, Sylvia, but that's like, again, that's part for the course for them. Like, you don't, they don't need to justify anything. Like they can literally, they can literally just say like, no, well, this is fine. All the other, all the other versions of that, evil, Satan, devil. This is fine. And like, they don't, they don't bat an eye. They just go on about their day.

It's infuriating, but that's how they operate consistently. Once you accept that, like, we can make fun of the hypocrisy all we want. But, like, once you accept that it doesn't matter because they understand what they're doing, they're in pursuit of more power. anything that gets them there is fine. So it doesn't matter what they said yesterday is different what they said today. It's what's happening.

Todd Arthiel said, and I've already lost the full comment, I lost it to the ether. I can only see so far back on the program we use. But says, on the nosy, they will steal and destroy ballots to substantiate all the bullshit, right? And I think he's just talking about

the idea of election fraud and everything they'll do to make sure that they can, you know, take this one home. and we talked earlier about Barrett and talking about intimidating people at the polls and her refusal to say, yeah, you can't do that. And just everything, every week,

more shit comes out that points towards election-based fuckery from Trump and his administration and his ilk. And I'm glad to have you, Mark, because usually you're often the voice of, you're like, look, it's going to be all right. We got it, we got it under control. But the shit worries me, man.

Yeah, I mean, shouldn't you shouldn't live in a universe where like you need to win in a land slide to barely win right right but that's the world we're in now like someone if you saw today at my home state of Virginia as a last state of register and somebody accidentally or accidentally cut the cable that shut down the state's like a registering registration center so yeah I mean I was assuming that was an accident because it wouldn't they did the state of the Democratic leadership they'll just you know extend the deadline or whatever if they need to. But they think about it like bizarre place we're at,

just the act of voting itself is political. Like like if you if you encourage people to go vote, everyone knows you mean against Trump. Right. Yeah. Yeah. But if you just tell people you're trying to restrict vote, everyone assumes that's pro Trump. It's very it's like we've always accepted this default status we're going to mean these voting wars forever. Which is another reason Democrats need to take back to paste that House Bill won, the one they wrote two years ago that's supposed to reestablish the Voting Rights Act, have national voter rights. voter registration self is voter

is vote suppression. Other countries don't register to vote. You're of age, you go vote. You don't need to do this extra step in between. It makes no sense. It's all fuckery. We can get rid of it.

Well, you're talking about the politicization of voting and everything. And I feel like that's mostly because it's been essentially prove. It's just accepted as fact at this point that the more people who vote, the worse, the chances Republicans have.

Do you know what I mean? like on a macro scale. So you're like going to say, go and vote. Make sure you go vote. Everybody knows that means against Trump. And the opposite is also true. But I think that's because that's what the statistics back up.

Like people are hardcore supporters on their side. They do vote. You know, and mass and everybody knows it. And it's the, you know, it's our side that has the problem with turnout. And I feel like that's been the case for a long time.

So people just kind of understand the dynamic inherently at this point. You know? But we talk about like the report. Republicans are benefit from voter suppression, but they could also just pick popular positions. No, dude, I'm for sure. I'm with you. That would be great. There's nothing, there's nothing inherently genetic about them getting Latino vote. Do you know what I'm saying? They can moderate their immigration position. And she's, thank you, Anna, for the correction here. Trump's using regeneron as a short cut in the name of the drug,

but it's regeneron, R-E-G-N-C-O-V-2, anybody cocktail. Yes, Anna Ledford and Nafee says regeneron is the company, not the name of the drug. And yeah, I put that up there to correct ourselves. Yeah. By the way, their stock price went up a bunch and the guy in charge the vaccine at the Trump administration who still works for that company who sold $10 million with stock. So that's cool. Stan Sugg says Trump was 100% on speed at his rally. Okay.

Mark alluded to this earlier. It's like people made the Adderall jokes and other speed jokes about Trump for a long time. I felt like this was different. This was almost like, this was some lovey-dovey shit. Like they put Trump on some kind of ecstasy or something. I don't know. Like, I think he was on,

it was a cocktail. It was a cocktail drugs that were interacting with each other in various ways. That's what I think. Because this was a different version of his brand of bullshit than we've seen before, to me. He's talking about kissing people. He's dancing and shit.

Well, I mean, like, the man has been living off nothing but McRibbs and Cokes for 25 years. insane. Like, at center of the hospital, he gets, he gets an IV that hydrates him. He gets shot up with steroids. He gets all the sodium flushed out of the system, and they make him eat healthy for three days. And he beats death? The man's feeling amazing right now.

He's just feeling himself? That's what you think? He's just feeling himself. You see his dance? Yeah, man, I did see his dance. Yeah, you might be right. You might be right. Maybe he's just feeling himself.

I mean, I know it's because it's public domain. They can't get anybody to let him use their music, but his commitment to the village people is hilarious. Do you remember that reminded me of an old-ass quote from him now, but his opinion or his belief related to exercise? Do you know what it is? Yeah, he thinks that the human body has a finite amount of energy. It's a battery. You've only got a finite amount of energy and exercising drains your battery.

And that's why you shouldn't do it. Yep. A real thing, the President of the United States believes to be true. Yep. And again, he's apparently healthy as a horse. 74 years old. So if we're going about your luck argument, the world telling him he's right. Man, I

think that Lewis Black had a bit about this, but I believe it. Like, I think everybody's health is almost like everybody's footprint. You know what I mean? Like, everybody's health is different. And I think some people are just like, just have it to where they can live like Trump is, and obviously I know it's the billions of dollars.

But I'm saying, like, I think something, something that would like, you know, kill you dead and three years of doing it, other people can do for 60 goddamn years and end up being fine and it's just a crap shoot of how it actually works out and then when you had billions of dollars and massive privilege on top of that this motherfucker can eat mcribs for 40 years and just be fine my my dad's granddad was like he was poor and he lived to be like 90 something or whatever we're living off nothing but bacon and beans didn't even know what a vitamin was yeah right

uh pee ribbon pee ribbon from youtube the comment just says i just enjoyed it i don't know if it's making fun of how we talk and how we said it or if it's in reference to another comment from someone else but the comment just says Aunt Tifa with a laughing emoji which I appreciate so yeah, oh, Auntie Tifa out there starting shit. That's what she's doing

Aunt Tifa. People people in your tell say ain't or your family Mark ain't like ain't Tifa. We say my wife makes fun of me because like we actually say aunt but that's very weird. I think it might just because my mom,

she grew up super red, as you would put it, and her parent had real bad accent. She got to college and went to be a speech pathologist. She took dialect training to lose it, so my mom talks like a Midwestern phone operator. So it's probably something she passed down to us was the correct pronunciation

that sounds really weird to everybody else. We say aunt, like flaunt. In my hometown, the black kids said aunt and the redneck kid said ain't, usually. you know or or aunt but yeah that's how that's how I recall but I remember people ain't ain't Faye ain't sandy there's some real some real answer mine shout out to them by the way they're great uh I don't know what this is about but Caitlin Cruz says crackheads for Trump

you know you think he's getting out to crack have vote I'm not saying no that way I'm assuming if they're voting if you want to go another way yeah I don't know I don't know either Randy Greer he sounds like he's from Salina, Tennessee, my hometown. I believe my dad went to high school where Randy Greer says rave Trump. And yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's the impression I got from him. It was like, rave

Trump is what we saw the other night. It was just slightly different than the version before. But I like your theory, though, Mark, it's like he ain't, he hasn't actually felt like a human being in years. And the other night after, you know, the best doctors in the world forcing it upon him,

he was just high on like, no, he was high on life a bunch of other shit too. But he was just feeling himself. That's what it was. Yeah. I'm trying to find the video of him dancing. So you can show it if you want.

Well, no, we're about to have to get out of here. Ted Bamer says, don't forget Wendy's, Mark. I don't know what that's about. I've already forgotten.

I don't talk about what Trump eats, I guess. But I thought this guy was just commenting on your diet, you know, Mark. Don't forget him some chicken. This is nothing to do with politics, but just the man has access to all this money. I know.

He has, he might just be on credit, but he can definitely eat wherever he wants, right? And he doesn't enjoy it at all. Everybody knows about the well-done steaks. He drowns in ketchup. He'll go to a fancy restaurant pay $100 for a well-done steak, drowning ketchup, lives off McDonald's.

Give me your money, man. Give me your money. He's just, he is in every way the worst. That's all it comes. He's just consistently across the board the worst. Look, I'm sure at least some of y'all like, well-done steaks will catch up. I can't, I'm sorry.

that's objectively wrong okay I mean it just it is what is you should not do that you can eat it just get a burger if you just get a burger just get a burger try to get a good one you know

and get a little look I got love for McDonald's I got two little kids but like fucking feeding feeding big Macs to the goddamn national championship team in the White House is some bullshit

like you gotta beat that tell them the anecdote about subway the first day you weren't poor okay very very briefly and then we'll get off here. I, like, I've had this whole revelation in recent years about my palate and how trash it is because I grew up poor eating potted meat and fucking all that shit, you know, as two chains said, I ain't never been comfortable hot dogs and pork and bean luncheables and that's how it was.

And I didn't realize anything about that until I got older. And then when I first went viral thanks to you guys, I love you, thank you very much. And one of the first things that happened in 2016 was I signed a deal with Warner Brothers. And right after, and I'm not, in my head, I did not equate these two things that just happened organically to me. But me and Corey and Drew were on the road. We stopped for gas at some big super truck stop. And I got the call saying, Warner Brothers is signing you to this deal. And then we went in there and we had to eat lunch because we were running late for the show.

So everybody got something. And I got a subway sandwich. And I've eaten subway for forever, $5 foot long. When my hometown salon, I got a subway, it was literally front page news. That's the truth. it's a big deal in Salina and we come out and we're sitting in the truck there and I got the call

that I was getting this deal from Warner Bros. And I had gotten this like Italian BMT or something was my personal favorite. And I took like two bites of it and I just looked at it and said to myself although they both heard me, I just looked at it and said I ain't never eating this shit again as long as I live. And I threw the foot long away because for the first time of my

life I realized like oh this subway is garbage. Like again I'm sorry for people like so. I still love sandwich I love sandwiches. I eat like Jersey mics and shit like that. Subway don't hit. I'm sorry, it don't. And I realized it for the first time.

Then I was like, this trash, why I'm doing this to myself? I don't need to eat this trash. And I threw it away. So, yeah, thanks for bringing that up, Marks. We put that out there and end on a capitalist note, I guess. It's not like you're eating caviar. You can just get like an $11 burger instead of a $5. Yeah, all right.

Well, hell, we love y'all very much. and we will see you Thursday and I'll try not to do anything stupid between now and then, but no promises. Love you, bye. Very good. Hey, hey, everybody. What's up?

Welcome back. Today is Thursday. October 15th, the aides of Spooktober. That's what it is. I'm Trey Crowder, and that's Mark Agu. What's up, Mark? What's up, Mark? Oh, not a lot.

Well, I don't know. There's some stuff going on for me today. I hope that you guys are actually seeing this. I hope this is going out there. As you know, we had some technical difficulties on Tuesday's episode. And then today, my primary computer, which is my wife's big fancy IMac, right? Like, I'm sure it's got actual specs and model numbers and stuff like that. I don't know any of those.

I just know it's like big and slim and looks futuristic and is made by Apple. So to me, all that means that computer good. That's good computer, right? So that's the computer I've always used, and it just has totally shit to bed today. So I've had to set up a whole other situation, which is what you guys are seeing me on now. I hope that it works well enough. I'm sorry for these ongoing technical snafews. Another quick announcement before we get into the show, as you are all aware, I'm certain we are currently going up against the dueling presidential town halls that have come to be after the second debate was canceled.

and I went back and forth and me and Mark both went back and forth and what to do about this. Like, I just, I didn't want to move the start time of the show again because I'd so recently moved it on you guys for the first debate. I didn't want to confuse everybody.

I didn't want to do that. But I didn't want, I wasn't going to just cancel the show either. So Mark and I are going to do, we're doing the show. We got some good stuff, but it's going to be another abbreviated episode like the one before the debates.

We're going to try to aim for about a half an hour get everybody out of here so you can go watch Trump, be insane. and Joe be, you know, sleepy or whatever is going on with those. I'm not watching. Or that. Hey, look, feel free to not watch it at all either. I just felt like, you know, we should adjust a little bit to account for that.

But with all that said, let's get out of the show, Mark. As always, we begin with The Daily Dumbass. And it's not me this time. Although if you've seen me wrestling with that apple all day, you know that I could have been a candidate, once again, fucking Steve Jive, man. But no, tonight's Honor for Daily Dumbass is

the head presidential journalist at C-SPAN, the esteemed political network that we all know and are aware of, right, C-SPAN, been around forever. Steve Scully is his name, and he is, he's C-SPAN's political editor

and one of their top presidential coverage guys since 1992. So, a long-ass time. Coming up on 30 years. he's been in this high profile, upper echelon political arena job, right? And he has had a pretty bad week. He was supposed to have been the moderator for this second debate that was going to happen tonight. And obviously, that's not going down now.

I guess he's been a little upset about it because he engaged in the folliest of follies a Twitter beef with the president. Donald Trump tweeted about him and called him a never-Trump. the gall, the nerve. Steve couldn't handle this, but he tried to take the high road. So what he did was he tweeted at Anthony Scaramucci, the mooch, you guys remember him? Remember him, Mark? Remember the mooch?

Yeah, he was a guy that, yeah, he's a guy that said Steve Ben and just wanted to suck his own dick, like that. Yeah, he was a communications director in the Trump administration a few years ago for a brief moment in time. And apparently, a homeboy of Steve Scully. Because Steve tweeted at him and said,

at Scaramucci, should I even respond to this? And they went back and forth a little bit. He kind of just, they got into some Twitter fingers. It's like teen high school fucking drama bullshit amongst these major political players. I guess Steve Scully

immediately regretted it because he claimed the next morning that his account had been hacked and pretty just like, you know, every athlete who's accidentally posted a dick pick or whatever has said. And then immediately after that said, I was, that's not true.

It wasn't hacked. I'm, you know, and then he gave one of those long-winded half apologies and said he just lost control or whatnot. And has now been suspended from C-SPAN. So basically, some CW drama type of Twitter finger bullshit is taken down one of this country's top political journalists, or at least embroiled him in controversy, and it was instigated by the sitting president. Now, I know none of that makes anybody bad. and I at this point. But if you step back from it and look at that in a vacuum,

it's pretty fucking embarrassing, in my opinion. The very fact that it doesn't make anybody bad an eye, that it's par for the course with our current, you know, political status quo that this type of shit happens. Yeah, I don't know. This guy's, I mean, I don't even know why it was good. Well, first of all, one big dumbest thing is going to Anthony Scaramucci for advice on something, right?

That's part of it. And then lying about it. about it, like, people always say they were act. It's so funny to me because no one's ever. And also, no one, no, literally no one believes that either anymore because everyone always says it immediately. It's a fucking cliche at this point. Like, yeah, plus, like, you're, you're anonymous, right?

The super, super hacker, hacker collective used to around, like, who we got to get? This guy named Scully, who no one, and no one's ever heard of on a channel, no one watches. It's really, really bizarre. But then when you hack it, what you do is you tweeted Anthony Scarimucci, like, who could possibly ever care? It'd be the dumbest scam to do, and that's why no one did it. And for him claiming it was stupid, it's he would understand how the internet works. And I just want to go on the record that literally everything ever put on the internet is because I would hacked. I'm not responsible.

Right. We're being hacked right now, you know? Yeah. That's what makes it so dumb to me is that, like, you just, I don't know how you hold that job for that amount of time. I don't get a fuck about C-SPAN either. but I'm saying objectively since 1992 been one of the top dogs there. I don't know how you hold

that job for that amount of time and then go out like this specifically like a you know like a spurned teenager or whatever like it's I don't know how that happens to a person. Especially

because he was only suspended for lying right like no one cares that he tweeted at Anthony Scaramucci for like something innocuous like should I respond. No one could possibly care, but you can't be on TV every night presenting the news and be a well-known liar. It doesn't mean, it's not good for the brands. You know, that's why Dan Rather was fired. Yeah. All right. So let's move on. Let's get into the nuts at both. I was speaking of nuts, Rudy Giuliani. Mark, tell us what he's up to right now.

Oh, man, who knows? So he's still trying to make this Hunter Biden Burisma scam will happen. And the newest moving part in it, and it's broke last week. We just didn't talk about it because it still remains stupid, but he claims to have stumbled across a laptop. Rudy Giuliani out there beating the pavement as an engineer here. Hunter Biden. Gum sheer Giuliani, man. Yeah. Just knocking on doors, hunting down leads, getting to the road of it.

So the story goes, Hunter Biden, I think, took three laptops into a repair shop in Delaware last year, right? And he only picked up two of them for some reason and didn't even leave a work The only reason I know these are Hunter Biden's laptops is because there was a sticker on one for the Bo Biden Foundation. So therefore, Rudy Giuliani investigated this laptop and he says found some videos that Hunter took of himself

smoking crack while having sex and also some emails, PDFs of emails, but that's how we all keep records of emails. We all keep PDFs of emails on our laptops that set up a meeting with Pizma. Now there's nothing, their email is asking for the meeting.

They didn't even bother, dumbing up emails that said they had had the meeting or booked the meeting or the meeting had any like malicious malevolent purposes just that they did their PDFs is what they gave to the media so there's no metadata you can't prove where it came from nobody knows and who gives this shit about hunter Biden I just can't bring myself to wrap my mind around what is it supposed to mean I know I know I know they're trying to allege that Biden like intervened in a corruption probe to um to keep to keep his son off the, you know, out of trouble, but I'd help him make money. But it gets everything about the story exactly backwards.

For one, there was a no-show job. He's not responsible for anything. Therefore, he's not involved any criminality because he wasn't going anywhere to do anything. He was getting free money. Two, the prosecutor was fired for not, like, the whole world wanted him fired because they're trying to clean up Eastern Europe and Ukraine, keep a, keep Russian influence out encroaching, you know, from the West. And so the problem with the prosecutor was that he wouldn't invest

investigate companies like reason. But that's what that's what he got fired for. Right. Yeah, it's all nonsense. Right. And it has been since the beginning. And that's why Michael, and also I feel like even like even on the right, like, they barely give a shit about this anymore. So I'm wondering like what is

what is, what do you think is going on in Giuliani's head? Like, do you think that like to him he is like he's like a private dick. He's out there on the trail hunting this down and he thinks he's going to uncover this big scandal and be like a hero to the people. And everything, like that he actually believes that?

Or is he just trying to, like, get back in the good graces? Or they just keeping him busy? Like, what do you think is going on in his drunken mind as he goes about all of this? What does he think he's doing? Oh, he's a true believer, man. He's got

that boomer lead poisoning that fucking up his brain in his 70s that's led a lot of people to become a conspiracy theorist. Like, there's a Twitter account that, like, reconstruct prominent people's social media feeds. You can click on and look at it at Julian on his Twitter feed, it's like half Qaeda on bullshit. So he really thinks he's trying to uncover the deep state cabal, a pedophile cabal or whatever.

Yeah, no, I agree with you. That's what I think, too. And that's like, I don't know if that's scarier or what, but it's, you know, it's funnier if you remove yourself from the terror of it of this guy being in a position of influence. Because, yeah, I also think he believes it fully and thinks he's about to be a hero of the people. And it's just so absurd. I've never seen like a guy like this the guy got elected mayor of New York as a Republican which is very hard to do because he basically destroyed the mafia in the 80s as a U.S. attorney.

I mean, he took the whole federal government dead in Rico, but like he took credit for it. He was the shining face of the movement to destroy the New York, the five families. And gets like the mayor. Then as the hero of 9-11, changed the law to get to give himself more terms. Just like couldn't. not have had a more glowing public profile, even though it was half a maniac the whole time, and then just completely through it all the way. Well, you know, it's like Harvey Dent said, Mark, Two-Face.

You'd die a hero, live long enough to become the villain. To become the villain, that's right. Rudy Charlie Anni. Anyway, his daughter wrote a piece today for Vanity Fair, begging people to not vote by Donald Trump saying how much she hates her dad, so. It's so funny how I don't know. I mean, I don't want to back myself in the corner because I can't sit here and name a bunch of them off, but obviously Kelly Ann Conway's kid

and now this one. And we're going to talk about another rebellious child very shortly and another story that involves some QAnon lunatics in it. And it's just funny how many like how many children of these people are publicly coming out and being like, you know, fuck my parents. I don't like, please don't

listen to them. Yeah. I mean, I guess that's sort of what teenagers do. But you know what I mean. Yeah. Teenagers rebel especially against their parents' politics. Like Ronald Reagan Jr. was a huge liberal. But like that's normal. But people,

I disagree with my parents politically, but I would never write a letter in a magazine calling them scumbags. That's a different thing. Yeah, right, exactly. That's what I mean. Okay, so I just teased the insanity story,

which we're going to get to. But first, let's talk a little bit about the forthcoming election. I don't want to put you on, put you on blast here, put you on the spot mark, but if you voted, we both live in California.

You can vote by mail here. I cast my ballot. what is today? I cast my ballot Tuesday night after the show actually. So I've done it. We filled out hours last night. My wife took them to the drop-off location today.

An official drop-off location. Actually, you know, we haven't talked about that on here, but people that don't know, in California, there have been multiple instances of confirmed fake drop-off locations that have been planted by, I know it's hard to believe since it's the left It's always trying to defraud elections. But this is actually, these have been planted by people on the right who are trying to trick people into throwing their votes away, basically.

And it's been, it's like a whole thing here. Like people are just putting up boxes in public places and saying, hey, you know, cash your ballot here. And they're not real. And that's pretty fucking crazy. It's an organized effort by the state Republican Party. and the state put out an injunction saying, hey, if I can cut this shit out. And they said, no. They just said, no, we're not going to stop.

I know. I can't figure what they're going to do with them because, like, there are official drop-off locations. If they're not going to do anything with them that's different, then you might as well have the regular drop-offs. So, but what's all, it's really funny thing to be doing in California where Trump's going to lose by 32 points or whatever. So, like, they're trying to shave the margin to 31.8. I don't know. So on that note, let's talk a little bit about the polls. I'm not going to lie.

I still get trepidacious personally whenever the polls come up, because, you know, I got punched in the mouth in 2016, and everybody like me did as well. The polls have been showing Biden with a comfortable lead for a long time now. So there's been a few articles that come out in the past couple of days saying that national polls still show Biden with a comfortable lead, but multiple swing state polls, like polls in critical states, are much closer than that.

And a couple of them, a couple of the swing states, Biden's lead is actually more narrow right now in the polls than Hillary was in 2016 in the same state. And of course, we all know how that ended up playing out. And I'm not like, I'm not trying to be apocalyptic or doom and gloom or pessimistic or any of that. I just like, I'm so worried, man. I'm so worried about this shit.

I'm not going to lie. It freaks me out. And as always, Mark, I turn to you to make me feel better. Can you do that? A little bit. Okay. So there's a few caveats, man. I was just reading up on this and I listened to a podcast today with a guy who was way more active.

Like so as far as people of memory hold would actually happen in 2016 to a large degree because they were so taken aback by the result because it just couldn't conceive of the universe where a game show host and no experience with coast of the presidency. But the national polls by and large were accurate. Hillary won the popular vote by the roughly the margin they predicted. The way it sorted out in the states was a little unfortunate for the claiming campaign. So the state by state by state polls were off, but also people learned from their mistakes, right? So the pollsters have changed their methodologies and are polling more diligently.

And the Democrats are spending more money in those states because they know they're not comfortably going to win there because they lost them in 2016. So there's some things are different. There's a lot of more voter participation drives. Something like, I forget the exact numbers, but like the like 97% of Travis County, Texas, which is where Austin is. Like 97% of eligible voters are registered, which is like a huge record. Harris County, Texas is blowing up. Like, there's a lot of weird stuff happening. It's a disparity between who's voting by mail early and who's going to vote election day is like huge by party.

So, like, I don't think anybody can predict what's going to happen because 2020 has never been before. There's never been a COVID-19 pandemic. There's ever been so much voting by mail. There's never been, just because of social media, there's not, there's never been an election discontentious, you know. But this guy who got it right in 2016, he still thinks Trump is. is going to win barely and it's going to come down to Pennsylvania. That said, his theory, he's a Republican pollster and he definitely wants Trump to win. Does he have a track record before 2016?

Like you said he was one that got it right in 2016. Is he a long-term pollster? Is he like, is he a track record beyond that? According to him, yeah, but he also is a prime, he runs his own company and he has a financial interest in bragging him up his wins, right? So, but his basic theory is that the, the shy Trump voter theory, right? Where people won't tell live polls that they're voting for Trump because they're ashamed of it. Which which is really fascinating to me because if you're ashamed of what you're doing,

there's an easy way to fix that in as to not do it, right? I think there were, and this is just purely speculative. This is just me just talking shit. But based on people I know in the South and everything, thing and how they operate politically and whatnot. I think that there was a whole lot of that in 2016

two people that were like, you know, fiscally conservative, like lifelong Republicans who weren't zealous and whatnot, who didn't like Donald Trump at the time at all, who were like a little embarrassed by him,

but still absolutely voted for him, you know, because they were never going to vote for Hillary Clinton and also, you know, not going to, How back can it be? The party, the grand old party will prop him up and it'll be fine. And, you know, they voted for him, even though they didn't really like him. But I feel very confident that was a pretty prevalent thing in 2016. I would like to think that most of those people who did that then just won't now.

I could think of a couple guys, and I'm not going to name them, it wouldn't mean anything to anybody. because they don't know them. But I can think of a couple guys that I used to work with that I knew pretty well that I would put into this category. And I know it's purely anecdotal. But the guys that I'm thinking of, they're not going to vote for Donald Trump again. Like they did that then, but it's gotten so bad now that they won't. And I'm sure there's still going to be plenty of shy Trump supporters or embarrassed Trump supporters who hold their nose and do vote for him. But he needs every single last one of them, right, to pull it off again. And I just, I have to believe that there's a good chunk of those people who fit that bill in 2016 who aren't going to actually do it this time. I'm not saying they're going to vote for Joe Biden.

They'll, that protest vote or not vote at all or something, but I don't think they'll vote for Donald Trump. Well, that's what's funny about, like, this guy was saying it, but also I've seen this in every other poll, too. It's like Trump's lost a shit ton with seniors and women, but he's getting like a quarter of a black vote and 35% of Latino vote. So it's like in battleground states. So it's pretty, I don't know, it's going to be a weird year, man. That's not where I was hoping that would end up at. All right, let's move on so we can get to a little. If you live in Pennsylvania and Florida, go vote, man.

Please, please. All right, let's move on so we can definitely get to some comments and stuff where we sign off a little early. A couple more things. I know we've teased in the description, and a couple times already we've teased this lunatic story from the Great White North and we're going to get to it. But before that, thank you.

Mark, didn't you have something you wanted to say about the esteemed senator from the state we live in of California? Diane Feinstein? Diane Feinstein is the worst, man. Just the worst. I don't know. There was a story last week coming up on these Amy Coney Bear hearings where, like, she, people were, Democrats who were murmuring anonymously that they're worried about her flunking the hearings because she's not, her heart's not in the job anymore. Let's put it that way. She's 87.

And so today she closed the hearings by thanking Lindsay Graham for his wonderful leadership and how great the hearings were. Remember three weeks ago when Ruth Bader Ginsburg died, people were saying burn this shit down if they try to install a justice. Now they're just acquiescing to it. That's not the main reason. Dying finds a number a couple years ago. Some kids came in her office and talked to her about climate change. So she basically told them to go fuck off and die from it. This is a woman who only became mayor of San Francisco because she,

she went in there when Harvey Milk was assassinated and a couple other people were killed she was the next one in line she was mayor of san francisco in nineteen eighty four when they had the democratic convention and she was trying to be Mondale's VP and she wanted to recruit you know saddle up the dixie crats so she flew a confederate flag over city hall in san francisco and had people arrested when they climbed the poll to take it down she's just bad man she's she's fundraising for a run in four years in twenty twenty four when she will be 91 years old 91. Can we please normalize retirement? Like I know millennials, our age group is never going to be able to retire. She's rich. She can go lay on a beach, man.

Let's somebody who wants to do the job and cares about her constituents, do the job. That's it. Now, look, okay, so the big thing that she's in the headlines for at present

is the Lindsay Graham thing you mentioned. She, like, she hugged him after the year. She hugged him. She thanked him very effusively. for his conduct. She gave him an actual physical hug. He wasn't wearing a mask. She's 87 years old. That's all that's what's in the news right now currently. And here's how I feel about that.

Look, I wish, I honestly wish that that kind of thing was more normal in the American political landscape. Like, I wish it was true that the two sides could be congenial like that while disagreeing politely on the issues and, you know, and still treat each other like human beings. that would be great. That would be ideal. But it's not. That's not the case. And it's because of them. Like, and so I was telling you earlier before we started, like to me, that kind of move hugging his ass after something like this is like a parody of the problem with the Democratic establishment. This like ill-founded belief that these people can be worked with, right? Or that like professionalism and respect actually still exist between. the two parties. It doesn't, and they fucking killed it. Like, you,

it's not going to be reciprocated. I know, you talk about the high road and all that shit all you want. Fuck the high road. Like, that's why we lose. It's capitulating to them. If they're not going to do it, then we can't do it back. Like, I'm done with the high road shit. I'm done with all that,

because it's never going to be reciprocated. And I just don't, I don't know, you don't, fuck that. We don't get nothing out of it. Like, that shit is over and dumb with. I hope we can get back to there, but until they get their shit together and start acting right, we're never going to be able to anyway. So fuck it. I'm not saying we have to be as fucking, just upfront, disrespectful and shit as they are, but we absolutely don't have to play this fucking lovey-dovey, huggy-wuggy, both sides bullshit. Like, fuck them. Fuck that.

I mean, it's not even that to me, man. It's like it's okay to play to win, right? You're supposed to play to win. And this contact, Graham was, like, he's gotten a boost out of these hearings on TV doing leadership and looking civil and responsible and whatever. But he is, slash, was in a really close race against Jamie Harrison. Yeah. And she just caught a campaign ad for him. Absolutely.

I didn't even really think about it that way, but you're 100% right. He's been actually threatened in his own race in South Carolina. He's been in trouble. And yeah, you're right. You know, you know that's going to be an ads that they have. You know, Lindsey Graham works with the other side. He's respected. He's respected by all sides.

I think it's harder to all, you know, whatever. Lindy, if you know, video clips of Lindsay Graham all over TV begging for money, it's because, like, Jamie Harrison raised like $40 million in the last month. Those are Diane Feinstein's constituent. When she contributed that money, she just flushed it down the fucking toilet. The same thing, like, like the act blew or whatever during the, um, because of R.G, since RBG dies, raised like $60 million or something to, which, what do you think people gave you that money for?

Like the money is trying to stop the ACB from being seated. Right. Yeah. Well, you said, I went on that whole tirade and you were like, to me, it's not even about that. To me, it's just like, look, it's okay to play to win. And that's not what this is. But that's like, that's why I said all that shit that I said is because to me, like,

that whole attitude is why we lose. is because they'll play dirty. They'll do wherever the fuck it. All they care about is winning, right? And we care about, you know, human being stuff. And I get that. I get it. But I've just got to a point where like,

I don't give a fuck as long as we keep losing. I don't care. Like job number one is to start fucking winning. And then we can worry about all that shit. But, like, I don't really go for, like, I don't care about the. the civility stuff from one angle or the other, man. It's weird how, like,

how childlike we treat these Congresspeople. Like, their job is to argue with each other and fight with each other. That's what their job is. They can shake hands out. We're just like, MMA fighters will kick each other in the head, then shake hands. I don't really care if they speak my... Right. You just be able to shake hands, like Senate cafeteria and still talk shit on the Senate

floor. If you can't do that, go get another job, man. There are other workplaces where you don't get called names. Yeah, I agree completely. All right, let's get into it, buddy. Got a fucking story. from the, apparently the Florida of the Great White North, Alaska. I'll be honest, I don't know a lot about Alaska. I'd love to go there.

It seems to be beautiful, but I've never been there myself. It's way out of the way, it's way up. It's dark all the time. It's cold all the time. It doesn't necessarily surprise me that people seem to be a little crazy there. But I didn't know that, Mark, until you sent me a story earlier today, not that it represents all Alaskans, but who we? This is some wild shit.

We called it into it. We called it the Florida of the frontier, but it's more like the, Florida Panhandle of the frontier. It's really the parts you think of a Florida, Alaska's all that, right? Just like the northern Florida. It's Jacksonville. It's the Jacksonville of Alaska of Canada. So this story involves an unhinged TV reporter, an anti-Semitic voicemail, a mayoral resignation, a news station parking lot fight, a Q&N headquarters diner, drunk cookies, a sex work embarrassed by her mom, and that's just the beginning of it.

All right? So last week, this TV news anchor, she does some Facebook promos for stories she's breaking at that night about how Mayor of Anchorage is a pedophile. All right. Maria Athens is her name. And she's an on-camera reporter in Anchorage, Alaska for the local network affiliates there. She's the Walter Chronkite of Anchorage. So she, so her boss rightly wonders what the hell she's talking about.

She's got a story that the mayor is a pedophile of the state cab, it's not the state cowgirl, the biggest city in Alaska. And so they go to her, it's like she doesn't have any proof of this, right? So it's like you can't air the story. She gets suspended. She gets in a fight in the parking lot with one of her coworkers. By the way, the boss she suspended, who has had a suspender and announced that her story has absolutely no substance.

She's apparently sleeping with him. That was anything to do with the story. It's when I add a little color for you. He also is the guy she got into the fight with, right? Her boss who suspended her, she got into a fight with him in the parking lot, and also in a sense come out that they had been, you know, getting it on prior to that. I didn't realize that was him that she hit, but sure, that sounds about right.

So apparently what had happened, there's this local cookie celebrity who makes cookies with booze in him, who had a product deal with Nestle. It's probably going away after all this. Because what the cookie lady told her was that she found out her daughter was a sex worker. Her daughter is a teenager, right? And her daughter had physically described one of her clients and her mom, and the mom decided that was the mayor because the two guys are both short. That's the extent of it. Right. So the TV anchor lady posts a picture of a guy

from the back is bare ass and says that's the mayor and that's the picture he sent to this underage prostitute's not underage as far as they know. They can they refer to as a teenager at some point, but I'm assuming that means 1920 or whatever. She's legal. But that's why she's calling a pedophiles, because she's saying he'd sent a picture of his butt to this teenage sex worker. But she had the picture of his butt because he had sent it to her because the two of them involved in his sexting affair, right? Yep.

Yeah. So the mayor resigns for having the consensual affair. He was term limited out in like two or three months anyways. He's like, fuck this shit, I'm out. Yeah, she posted, she teased this massive sexual scandal story with the mayor there in Anchorage. And then later that night posted as proof And she like hash tagged it like, what now, haters?

Here's the proof. And the proof was just a picture of just some dudes bare ass. You could in no way tell it was the mayor. But also, she, in the middle of all that, this reporter who, again, on-camera personality, been doing the job for a few years, right? In the middle of all that, she called the mayor and left a voicemail that is truly fucking insane. I'm going to read it real quick. this is the voicemail she called him letting him know that she was about to string him up over this

underage naked butt sex scandal stuff that she seems to have just created out of thin air and lunacy so this is the voicemail she left the mayor i just learned from uh emmy award-winning journalism that you are also a pedophile and like little girls and children and there's a website i'm so fucking exposing you i'm going to get an emmy so either you turn yourself in kill yourself or do what you need to do. I will personally kill you and Mara Kimmel, my goddamn self.

That's his wife, I believe. And Mara Kimmel, my goddamn self. You Jewish piece of living fucking shit. You have met your match, motherfucker. You have met your motherfucking match. I can't believe. I am such a good person, and I thought I loved you.

I fucking hate, I don't even hate you. I will pray for your Zionist fucking ass, you piece of shit loser. And I'm putting this on the news tonight. Bye. Have a great Friday. Motherfucker. Imagine, imagine, like, being a public figure, right? Going on the news, being a journalist on camera in a city, even one in Alaska,

and leaving a voicemail like that to the fucking mayor, like a super high pro. Like, how? Insanity. 2020 is the year of the meltdown, bud. But here's the thing, though. You might notice some like some Q&on themes popping up with absolutely anti-Semitism and calling a pedophile and all this stuff. So there apparently is a local celebrity diner owned by this guy who's basically,

the mayor was, to have some depth to this. The mayor was trying to, you know, stop COVID. And this one diner refused to do any sort of shutdown or shut down or stopped in dining service and gave the middle finger to the mayor. The guy's turned into a big Q&on celebrity. He's a believer. She left that drunk voicemail, I'm assuming drunk, in the parking lot of that diner. And the diner is called

Criner's Diner's Diner, which as Mark said, they refused to do any kind of shut down her mass stuff. They're, oh, fuck you, let the disease come. You know, they were true American patriots for standing up against COVID restrictions, which started the beef with them and the mayor, but before all that for years, this particular diner, Krinner's Diner, uh, French fries and French toast are called American fries and American toast because, quote, no French on our menu, just proud American classics.

Trey, you stand up for the anthem there. Uh, yeah. So anyway, that, that guy has become a, a major celebrity. People drive them all over last year to go with dining, go to his dining. honor to show their support for COVID-19. And the guy who owns the diner, just to wrap this story in a nice little boat, is the brother of the drunk cookie lady. You've got to mention the drunk cookie lady, apparently why her cookies got so popular was,

unbeknownst to her, she wasn't cooking them at a high enough temperature to burn the alcohol off. So, like, they were just getting everybody drunk as fuck. And everybody's like, these cookies are fucking great. And so that's how her cookies blew up. Is there a more American story than becoming super successful precisely because you have no idea what the fuck you're doing? I love it so much.

This lady, apparently, her name's Molly Blakely, and she apparently has a track record of that. Like, you hear all this, you're like, wow, that's a real lunatic there. She's been on TV before. She ran some hotel that was featured on one of those hotel rescue shows for being, you know, such a travesty of a business. and she was the person in charge of it. So like she's already had very limited, but still public notoriety for her lunacy before she got people drunk with cookies

and accused the mayor of being a pedophile because her daughter was a teenage ass court and she saw his butt once or whatever the fuck is happening with all of this. I just like that in 2020, Alaska remains a place that if you're a lunatic or a criminal, you can go out there and still strike a rich

with your world with your insane ideas. I love it. It's great. Yeah, man. It's fucking, but yeah, it all comes down to, like, it is, it seems to be a fucking, it's a Q&Non Psyop, Mark. Like, it's what it is. Like, it's this, these Q&M lunatics coming together

to bring this guy down. Anyway, the mayor may or may not be the mayor's butt, and he may or may not have had appointments with an escrow with a consenting sex worker, a barely legal age. And, or there's another short, out there somewhere his ass is on the news and he doesn't he's just praying they don't no one recognizes his bare ass so yeah um okay well let's see what uh see what everybody's talking about over here

we'll do a few days and we'll get out of here um let's see what we got who is doing belke Hernandez says who is doing the better town hall well we don't know we've been uh we've been sitting here doing this mark says he's boycotting it I don't blame him but when we get done I'm gonna probably turn it on and try to flip back and forth. I don't know why I'm gonna do that to my brain, but I'm still, I think I am. Trump hadn't started on a format, so I'm interesting what they were going to do.

Plus, like, I wonder if, you know, I mean, the NBC moderator is not going to do it, but a bunch of stuff came out today should absolutely ambush Trump with. Firefly 89 from YouTube says, wait, I'm confused. I thought the cookie lady was the source and the journalist left the voicemail.

That's accurate what you just said. If I made it sound otherwise, I'm sorry. What you just said is accurate. The cookie lady was the source and it was the journalist who left that insane voice move. Yeah, the cookie lady is the original source that, hey, my daughter was sleeping with the mayor. And then the journalist got mad because she was the woman scorned and decided to burn this guy's life down. And they wrap him into the pedophile cabal. Look here, Mark, Norman Hunt says you guys are in rare form tonight.

It sure beats the hell out of a town hall. well, you know, I really appreciate it. I feel like that's not the highest bar with the way, you know, that particular form of discourse has gone over the, you know, recently with this particular election, but I sure do appreciate it. Mark, I know you're not going to watch either one of them. Well, actually, let's see here. Sarah Marie says, I'm pretty sure it's his butt.

Yeah, I mean, you might be right. Like, it may be the mayor's butt, right? it may be legitimately the mayor's butt but but that doesn't change the unbridled lunacy of everything else about that story right well I mean hell

honestly it just amplifies the lunacy really if that is the mayor's butt well no no if it's not his butt and they would do no that's crazier but whatever it's fucking crazy in a way some crazy shit going on in Anchorage you know it's when cell phone camera

is in like i mean i remember when when the the uproar over snapchat and all this stuff like where people were so scared of all the sexting teenagers are going to do and it's ruining gen x and baby boomers lives the kids are fine with it it's the old people keep sending their saggy parts all over to play i never thought about that either but you are so 100% correct that's wild how that worked like the guy north come just this election cycle that mayor this like they they They, the senator. Going back to fucking Mr. Wainer himself.

Anthony Wainer, remember that? Like, he did it like three different times. Yeah, that we know of. I mean, like,

the one that got him sent to jail was like a 15 year old, right? Like, he was a real sick of. Yeah. All right, we got a comment here

from Chilton Cabot, uh, Chilton Cabot, that's I'm going to say it. Crazy long lines in North Carolina today for the first day of early voting. Anecdotal, but I love it, buddy.

I love to hear that. Now the numbers have been crazy. I don't know because of COVID, I don't know how to rank it because way more people are trying to vote early in my mail. So there's no way to, nothing to compare it to. But like, yeah, that's why the panic over the polls, like, I don't know how to, I don't know how to feel about it one way or the other because it's going to be weird.

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Scam likely says, please watch them so I don't have to, referring to the town halls. And again, I'm going to. Whenever we do wrap it up, I'm going to turn them on. I mean, obviously I can't watch them both simultaneously. I'll flip back and forth to see what happens.

But I did want to ask Mark, I fully respect your decision to just say, fuck it and not watch any of them. But if you, like, gun to your head and you had to watch one of the two, which one would you pick? I mean, Trump's dressing in the way, like. Yeah, right. No, Trump, you're sure to sit. You are sure to be infuriated for the next hour or however long it is if you choose Trump, right? Like, you know that's what you're doing to yourself is you're about to be. fucking mad for X amount of time.

I mean, it's not even about the politics of it or the lying. It's like I can't, I couldn't listen to somebody talking about sports with that, like, meandering conversational style with no real sentences and yelling all the time over top of people. Like it wouldn't, it just, it wouldn't, I couldn't stand it. You could be talking about the weather or, you know, trying to describe a book you read to me. And I'd still be like, I can't, I can't, this is stressing me out, man. Where did that Senate stop or end? And what did you mean by it?

I'm actually, I'm glad this person said this. M. Savannah from YouTube says, I wanted to watch the town hall with you hillbillies. First of all, thank you. I appreciate that. Secondly, that has occurred to me to try to do something like that. When the debate was, when the first debate happened, and we used to start at 6 p.m. Pacific, and it started at 6 p.m. Pacific, we ultimately decided to move the start time to show up until 5. And I'm glad we did, but I thought, I've tried to, I consider for a minute, like, is there a way we could, we could like watch it, like do a mystery science theater thing with the debate while live and everybody watching us? And I'm just going to be up front with right now.

I'm not sure the best way to go about that, but I can truly figure it out. We can look into it because we do our show on Tuesdays and Thursdays, and you know what the Tuesday here and two or three Tuesdays is? Why, it's election night. And it ain't going to be an election night like most of the other ones because of all the mailing voting and all that. Who knows what we will actually know on election night. But me and Mark will be here. And we do need to figure out some way to, I think, show things live while we're talking about it like that. So I'm glad you've brought this up, Savannah, because I think it's a good idea.

But we need to look into it. What do you think, Mark? You're not into that? No, I mean, that's the only way I could be able to watch is with somebody and making fun of it. Because my worry is people, their viewers will get mad at me for how much I yell at Joe Biden too. But yeah.

Frederick Belize says Mark, Trey, I ask this a lot. Have you had threats from Trump fans? I don't know about Mark, but I mean, I'm going back to, you know, I've been doing my liberal redneck thing for four years now. And over that time, I mean, yeah,

yeah, I've gotten a shitload of threats from conservatives. is mostly at this point they know they either don't know shit about me at all or if they do they know what I'm about and they just stay the fuck away from me which is more than fine with me

but early on they were going out of their way to send me shit threats and stuff talking about I mean everything you can just horrible shit talking about raping my wife fucking killing me killing my whatever just the worst shit you can imagine I've gotten it from people on the internet but you know fuck man

you're going to broadcast your opinions on the internet, you're going to have that. You know? Like, fuck them, but it's part of the, it's part of the game. There was, um, it's not nearly as bad as a year, it was a few years ago. Like, there was a moment early 20, in 2017,

where the alt-right felt really ascendant and were really aggressive. And, uh, before, social media companies, I guess, or at least trying to do a better job with, like, getting the Nazis off. But like, a bunch of people got in their head that I was Jewish somehow, became a meme somewhere and they would send me a bunch of anti-Semitic cartoons.

And I got doxed one time, but it was an old address. And I don't think the person who lived in that address got murdered, but I'm fine. So I don't know. Very, very briefly, I just remembered I'd actually forgotten about this somehow. Because it could have been something totally innocuous, and I just didn't figure it out. But right before we moved to California, we lived in Oak Ridge, Tennessee, and within a couple of months before we moved out here, but after I had gone viral, I was getting all these messages and stuff, we rented the house we lived in.

And Katie one morning saw a dude in a car. parking from our house taking pictures of our house and i don't you know it could have been maybe they knew we're i don't know if they knew we're about to move or something they're just posting some shit on craigslist or whatever but that was kind of that was kind of fucking freaky but other than that i've never had any kind of real life situation you know thankfully it's all been just internet stuff i think part of that might be because you know in my head there's been at least a couple of people who've seen me at the dollar store or something who I really do not hit for that didn't realize that I was a little bit of a bigger boy than that bargain for.

You know what I mean? You see me in person and it's like, oh shit, I thought you were six inches shorter than you are. Never mind, but I ain't trying to, you know, I ain't trying to start no shit, Mark. There was a, there was a period, man, where every time, like, I'd have an anti-Trump tweet or whatever go viral, I'd get a bunch of passwords and reset notifications for people trying to hack my shit. uh not thunder like now i've been i have been hacked a couple of times that has happened and i also have had as i'm sure many of you all are aware there i also had people who like impersonate me online

who are scamming people people take my name and my picture and they message y'all and try to get you to send them money or whatever and shit like that like i've had that type of thing happen and every time i'm aware of it i try to shut it down but it still pops back up every now man and yeah that's fucking weird too. Like I said, man, you know, I'm fucking, I'm out here doing my thing on the internet. The internet can be the worst, so it happens. All right, Mark, this is one of those that we

get pretty much every episode where somebody asks a question that I don't really know at all what you're talking about, but I trust internally. Oh, Mark will know. So let's say it. This is Clara Snow says, what do y'all think about Trump admitting to using U.S. Marshals as a kill squad?

So, remember last month or month ago when a left-wing protester shot and killed that proud boy in Portland. Yeah, yeah. A couple days, a couple of days later, a cop shot and killed that guy in the driveway. Yes. Okay, that's what he's talking about. Trump was to get at his speech today.

He had said some messed up shit in an interview before where he was asked how he felt about it and he said something about, like, you have to retaliate, you have to retaliate, which like, I don't know he's to hear this, but police aren't for retaliating. It's not what they're there for. And by the way, the retaliation presumes that, like, Trump's on the proud boys side. And then, you know, it's a gang war. New York Times had a pretty troubling article reconstructing the shooting that... They did admit a witness said that the guy didn't have a gun on him.

He was just eating gummy bears or whatever when he walked out of his house and they shot him without even warning him first. And the New York Times backed that up with a little bit of reporting that they pulled the trigger away too fast and they reconstructed the scene. And Trump essentially accepted that premise is. true today and celebrated it. And made it sound like he sent the U.S. Marshals there specifically to kill him. Now, when Trump talks, where you can't tell exactly what he's saying, he's not a very precise talker, you can make excuses for him or say he didn't quite understand what it happened or say that he's just being honest.

I don't know. Right. I tend to think that all of those things are a little bit true. Do you know what I mean? Like, I generally think, like, I'm sure he didn't really even know exactly what it was. was saying, but like he would say it if he did know. You know, like he, like he both means it and also barely comprehends it. I think he does that a lot.

He's not really a details guy. And so whatever, but whatever information he knows about this, no, he's not. He gets all his information from his Twitter feed and Fox News. So it's not like U.S. Marshall's reporting back to him. He probably saw the New York Times article and someone quote tweeted about how they've murdered this guy in cold blood allegedly. and then just said,

and the quote chief from Mike Sernovich, whoever probably just said, damn right. And that was his news. All right. So this, I'm very much assuming, goes back to when we were talking about,

you know, which town hall you're going to watch? T.S. Ferguson says, can I just sit in my kitchen and saw my own feet off? My favorite is an option. The kitchen,

because you think you'd do it in the bathtub, but now you just don't you give that little of a shit. You're just going to do it in the kitchen. I like it. Okay. Amanda J. Alselman says, have you seen the hassle people have had having Biden-Harris signs in their front yard? One woman said her sign was shot. Another homeowner got abuse from an HOA member.

We were talking a couple episodes ago about that guy, the Fox News personality, who predicted a, quote, lawn slide victory for Trump because of all the how many more Trump signs he saw on a road trip than Biden. signs. We're talking about some of that's confirmation bias. Trump people are more inclined to put a sign in their yard, I think. But I also think I think that a little bit is this thing right here. Like, you know, this is why, this is part of the reason why I think people are less inclined if you're a Biden Harris person to put a sign in your yard because you know how fucking dumb and angry the opposition is that you just rather not fuck with them than invite them to come into your yard and, you know, start kicking. and shit around. And for the record, my uncle, sweet, lovely, angelic Uncle Tim in Clay County, Tennessee has had people fuck with his signs. He put Biden signs in his yard and people have, nobody shot him or nothing like that, but people have taken them, stolen them, knocked them over, you know, whatever, that type of thing. I don't understand the yard signs at all. I don't understand why people put them up. I don't understand what people took them down.

I understand why 45-year-old homeowners turned back into teenagers doing like Devil's Night Pranks around yard signs. Yeah, not Uncle Tim though. Uncle Tim, he's got, you know. No, Uncle Tim's awesome. Uncle Tim's great. You're talking about other people. Yeah, yeah.

I'm not saying anything. It's one of those things where I'm probably the weird one. I don't, I don't, you want to talk about politics I'm talking about it with you. I don't know what a yard sign does or doesn't do. No, I'm the same way. I don't fuck with yard signs either, but I know how Uncle Tim is. You got to remember Uncle Tim's an openly gay man. in Clay County, Tennessee, and has been for years and years.

And he's been openly gay for a very long time. Like, he is very much a wear it on my sleeve, fuck if you like it or not, type of guy, you know? And I think that it's like he's, you know, to him, it's like a real statement, I think, to put a sign like that in his yard right in that town, given the context. But people that just slather them everywhere and put all the bumper stickers on the trucks and all this,

yeah, I ain't never been that. type either. Yeah. I didn't nothing about what I said should be construed as an insult of your uncle. I didn't mind. I know. I got a little defensive there. I shouldn't have. Let's see. Some of Navarius, L.A. from YouTube says, just make the town

halls into a drinking game. I feel like that's dangerous because like pretty much any rule you could make to apply to a drinking game using really either one of these candidates is going to get you fucked up. Do you know what I mean? Like if it's something that's prevalent enough for you to make it a rule, Trump in particular is going to say or do it enough that you're going to be

fucking hammered. You might have to go to the emergency room by the time you're over with. So you're taking your life in your hands, making this into a drinking game, I'm funny. Yeah, they both do that politician thing where they talk with the fourth grade vocabulary. Biden's is on purpose. And so they have the specific verbal tics where anything you put on a bingo car

is going to be hit a dozen times in the first minute. So water that drink down, buddy, if you're going to do that. Personally, for me, I've never needed a game to get drunk. When's the last time you played any kind of drinking game, Mark? Do you remember? It would have been my early 20s. Yeah, I mean, I can't remember the specifics either, but it's been years and years for sure.

I mean, I used to be all about a good drinking game, but yeah. Yeah, we used to love you. You were play asshole, the card game? Yes, yeah. Yeah, we played asshole. that was a very popular one. We used to play one that we called shitty, which I don't remember the rules of,

but I remember it just because it was comically just simplistic. It was so obvious that, and I mean, it was named shitty because it gets you shitty, but it was just like a, there were barely any rules at all. Like the rules were pretty much just like, you drink this too, you fall over and about die, you dumbass, and then after you go, I'll go.

And that was like pretty much, it was pretty much the whole thing. Yep. Let's see here. Randy's context from YouTube. I assume he's talking about bumper stickers and stuff. He says, I drive a beater. Do your best to it.

I respect that, Randy. That's a very Randy. That's a very Randy state of mind. And I'm here for it. There's a regular Randy. Yeah, fuck, do what you're going to do, buddy. Randy all day. I think I give a fuck.

How many Randy's you ever known give a fuck, Mark? Not many. No, man. They're like a Darrell plus 10%. Yeah. Oh, let's see. Aye, aye, aye, yeah, yeah. Makes me happy the yards every post. Okay.

Now this, again, as a lot of things we talk about, very anecdotal, but I find this interesting, too. This goes back to where we were talking about the shy Trump butter thing. Jennifer Hartthorn says, it makes me happy that in Georgia, where Jennifer lives, I assume, there are yards that have Republican Senate signs and a Biden-Harris sign. And yeah, I'm into that. I'm intrigued by that. If you're saying multiple instances of that, then that's what's up. But, yeah, we've become so polarized.

It's wild to me to think about people that are like down-the-line Republican Party voters for the most part. But that are not only... get it if they're like that and they refuse to vote for Trump. But that they are not only refusing to vote for Trump, they are so fervent about it, they're putting like a fucking Joe Biden sign in their yard. Like, that's wild. I don't know, I don't know

too many people like that. Yeah. 2020, man, everything's a sigh up. I don't know what to believe. Yeah. Okay. Tool, tool, or not tool, T-Cole, T-Cole 396 says,

I put up your signs to let other folks know that there are liberals in the south and to trigger conservatives. And I believe that is where Uncle Tim, that's where he comes from as well. And again, I understand that. Me and Mark live in California. I'm not going to, like, I don't, you know. Yeah. I mean, I'm just not a yard sign guy, but I respect the fuck out of both you and Uncle Tim.

That makes sense. If you live in an heavily red area and let people know they're not alone in their beliefs, that makes sense. Right. All righty. I know I said we're going to go early. We've almost gone the whole time. Well, now we're just going to fucking do it, Mark. Let's just finish the five minutes out, bud. We got carried away with the Alaska shit.

Yeah, I mean, I knew that was going to happen, but, you know, whatever. Nambo, Brian says, leave the signs up to identify where the assholes live. I'm into that. I'm like, that goes back to this larger conversation about, like, how vocal Trump has made racist and misconduct. misogynist and xenophobes, right? Like, he's empowered them to just very vocally state, I hate Mexicans or whatever, and the debate on how to feel about that.

And from the very beginning, I've always been one that's thought, like, look, those people think that anyway. They already think it. And if they think it, I personally would rather know that they think it. Like, I would rather them put it out there. So as Nambo says,

you know where the assholes are you know where the assholes live you know yeah i mean uh i think that that that take has been out there for a while but i'd rather like i'd rather deal with the people that are openly racist as opposed to the quiet ones but i think my experience for the last five years as trump gave people to not be pc anymore to just say the racist shit out loud i think that's been worse i think i'd rather go back to the part where they hide and everyone just sort of agrees that racism's wrong and uh people i don't i think it i think it's been worse in the short term like it's definitely made things shittier and harder to deal with the more insane but again like my thing is like all of that stuff was always there and was always present you get it out there and put it up

and out in front of everybody's faces just put it out on front street or whatever and then now we have to we kind of have to deal with it all one way or another and obviously i'm optimistic ultimately, and I think we'll eventually work through it, whereas in the alternative what you're talking about the way it used to be, you can go on like that forever. I mean, we did. You know what I mean?

Like you could go on for fucking 50 or 100 years acting like racism ain't real or whatever, you know, in this country. I know what you're saying, but like in the short term, like there's been an uptick and hate crimes and most people are actually physically hurt, you know? That's, yeah, I mean, yeah.

No, I mean, you're right. That ain't. That ain't it. I know you know you know you know you know you know you know you know you know you know you know you know you know you know you know you know you know you know I don't mean. I didn't mean. Yeah. Yeah. I just I just hope that the ultimate result of it is that we'll, you know, come out the other side better off eventually. But it's gross. I mean, we'll see what happens.

Uh, da da da da da da dat dat dat dat dat dat that. That that that. That. That. See what we got. Leslie. Hish tag says flush the turd November 3rd. Thank you. Leslie. I like that. put that on yard sign. Anna Ledford-Anafi says it's been really eye-opening in Washington State a lot more racism than

we really knew about. And I feel like that's probably happening all over the place. Like it wasn't that eye-opening in Clay County or, you know, rural Tennessee or rural Georgia, rural Alabama. But I bet you there's a lot of people like Anna, you know, from Washington State or Oregon or Colorado, literally any state, you name it, who had no idea that there was that. level of those types of philosophies and whatnot where they lived I think one thing to keep in mind is like being loudly that way is one way people recruit and people have

is not just racism has been revealed more people have become racist like it was kind of startling like the number of people who are against interracial marriage has like tripled in the last few years it's hard I don't know it's just it's hard for me to believe that there are like literally objectively more racist today than there were like when we were born in the 80s in the South but may but do you mean like more than there were in 2015 or like you you know what I mean that it's trended back up or from how it used to be like I just can't even imagine I know how it well I know how it was in my hometown when my dad was in

high school or let alone before that with my grandpa or whatever and it's just like even right now with Trump and everything it's fucking night and day, dude. Like, it's not even close. I think you're talking about the same level of that shit. I think, I mean, we're talking anecdotes over data, right? You're talking about yours to the town where you live. But like, like, I'm talking about numbers. Like the surge in membership and hate groups is like unprecedented right now.

It's scary because like you're talking about people being hateful, like hanging out your backyard with no real company. I'm talking about people getting together at rallies and meetings and planning shit, like kidnapping the governor at Michigan. Like so it's like. Yeah, but they're all dumb. They're dumb. They didn't pull that off.

but also like I'm saying I feel like that presupposes that the people like the people that are joining signing up for those causes and everything they they were already shitty racist assholes to begin with they're in a club now but like man you're you're you're ignoring like YouTube radicalization and the algorithms and all that shit and like like you're like you can read story after these are anecdotes too but story after story of parents being like one day hearing their teenage son rant about feminism that he's going to proud boy meetings like that that they'd be that kid wouldn't have been racist 10 years ago right he just wouldn't have been he would have been a kid in the suburbs hanging out playing video games but the video games went online and then he started watching youtube videos and now i'm not gonna now he's a blue boy yeah i know it's fair i mean it's fair to count 17 and 18 year olds but like i'm hesitant to do that like for too long because like you you you know people a whole lot of them won't remain that way and later will be very a very issue shamed of having felt because like you said it are like teenagers rebel and now a rebellious contrarian thing to do is to be a fucking proud boy or whatever i'm not excusing or defending it that's fucking

awful but i i'm still not i don't i'm not buying that that leads to like long-term you know larger prevalence of that of hate speak or hates because i think i think the same exact thing happens in reverse too like i think a lot of people who are not down with that will be more mobilized and more vocal and everything than they were before because in response to that type of thing happening like maybe but Kyle Rittenhouse killed a guy and has raised 500,000 over doing it so I don't I just don't I don't believe that that wouldn't have happened if there had been a go fund me and fucking 1988 or whatever and he'd done a similar thing like I just don't that it's getting worse there wasn't there wasn't there wasn't there wasn't an internet

That doesn't the point. I know. I know, but I feel like the internet, the internet pendulum, I feel like swings both way. I just, I don't know, man, I don't think you can, I don't think on a long enough time frame. I don't believe you can stop the march of progress personally. Well, on a long enough time frame, we're all dead, my friend. All right. Well, we'll see what happens.

All right. We said we're going to go short and I'm going two minutes over. But thank you guys for sticking with us. We really appreciate it. We will be back next Tuesday. well so who knows what will have happened between now and then all right say bye mark bye guys yeah