wellRED podcast - Evening Skews Week of September 1, 2020

Episode Date: September 8, 2020

Well me and Smart Mark spent a lot of time goin in on the po-leese this week, as is custom. But still spared plenty of shit talking for the situation surrounding Pelosi gettin her hair did, the lunacy of QAnon, and much much more. 

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How do y'all? Today's Tuesday, September 1st. I'm Trey Crowder. That's Mark Aegee. What's up, Mark? What's up, Trey? Skew. This is evening, skew. use. Tonight, as always, we begin with the latest in American dumb assery, and this evening,

we once again, for those purposes, turn to our dipshit in chief, President Donald J. Trump. And before I can get into this, let me just say, I know, I know. We keep going back to the Trump well for our daily dipshit reports. I'm aware, but I feel like it's kind of like doing the Sports Center top 10 in the NFL season. You're going to have a lot of Patrick Mahomes clips. You know what I mean? Like, it's just. The guy's just on another level than everybody else. It's just the reality of it. And when you're talking about American dips shittery,

Trump is the Patrick Mahomes. So we're going to keep going back to it. Yeah. I mean, like he's a, he's a, the NFL is a quarterback's a good analogy because that's where the camera focuses. So even if a guy's being a dips shit in the defensive secondary, you're not going to see it, right? Yes.

And, you know, I love a good sports analogy, Mark. And tonight's edition, of the dumb assery is quite a doozy. Because it turns out, I guess, Trump also likes a sports analogy. He was on Fox News. He was doing another long-form interview, which maybe it's me,

but I feel like his people should probably tell him to stop doing those. And this one was with Laura Ingraham, the Fox News host, and they were discussing Kenosha and American police brutality and that type of thing. And this is what Donald Trump had to say

on the subject of police officers taking it too far. Mark, tell me if you can't hear this. In the meantime, he might have been going for a weapon and, you know, there's a whole big thing there. But they choke. Just like in a golf tournament, they miss a three-foot...

You're not comparing it to golf because, of course, that's what the media says. I'm saying people choke. People panic. People choke. Okay. So first of all, if Laura Ingram is, like, intervening to keep you from putting your foot in your mouth,

you are saying some wild shit. But secondly, like I said, I like a sports analogy as much as the next guy, but I feel like when the subject is systemic racism and American law enforcement and the brutality and loss of life that results from that, maybe pick a different reference point than the whitest, silliest sport on the planet, fucking golf. I want to go against type here and kind of defend him for a second. Okay.

Please do. He's uncouth. associate path. So he said this extremely poorly, but like he's also making a point that no one else will make about this. If you're not going to do systemic reform, right? If you're just going to do personnel reform, the main observation you should have is that guy should not be a cop because he obviously doesn't have the fortitude for it. He's like he's given the temperament for it. He's a choker. He's Chuck Knoblaw, forgetting to throw out of first base. If you can't talk a guy who's not armed into stopping to talk to you for a second instead of chasing him down, grab him by his shirt,

him in the back. So he's making a good point just in the stupidest way possible. And no one else would make this point because they don't want to, one, they don't want to tell people that their systemic concerns aren't valid, which they are. And the other side doesn't want to insult any police officer at all. They want to do the whole other job is so difficult that, of course, you know, you catch them on the world's worst day, which, you know, yeah, it probably was a pretty bad day I worked with this dude. But also it's their job to judge us when they run into us on our worst days, right? So. Right.

Yes. Well, also it's like, I mean, it's horrific, but it's also funny that he, like, the implication here is that simply arresting a black man for a thing is the gimmee putt. That is the layup of American law enforcement. Like, anybody should be able to do it. You should be able to do it in your sleep, you know, just arrest. arresting a black guy and missing that put or that layup and choking, that results in, instead of arresting him, shooting him multiple times in the back in front of his children. I mean, yes, but the guy obviously, like we've talked about some previous episodes. The guy, obviously, you screw up really badly. I'm not, I'm not, this is not a defense of the police officer.

I'm just saying, like, showing up to an alleged disturbance, perhaps a domestic where no one has a weapon and no crime has even been alleged. or you just have to get people to like maybe quiet down a little bit and get off the corner is a layup for police service. Right. Yes. It is a put. So like I like the guys screw it throw him in a trash can. I don't want to defend him any longer. I did it's just like like he made a point that I think no one else is making that yes, you can if these people are these dudes aren't bad apples. You just aren't cut out to be cops. Then get rid of them. No, but they want to defend them and say they're bad apples, but also we should keep them.

which is like a weird you know yeah now i hear what you're saying because yes there is this sort of underlying thing there where it's like he's saying this should be easy for a cop it should be easy for a cop to not do that to not shoot the guy and like who could argue with that i mean that's like objectively true i agree with you know for once i agree with don't trump completely it should be you and our manager to not shoot people right now at this moment it's a very capable to-do list item, you know? Right. But having said that, there's also, it's like, I don't know, I'm, you know, I'm a big sports

fan, you're a big sports fan too. When somebody chokes, that doesn't mean, I feel like, that they are, you know, not suited for the job or they're a bad player. It's like, well, they just haven't figured out how to win yet. You know what I mean? It's like, like, I feel like there's also this implicit, like, forgiveness of it when you say it's like, oh, it's just, it's choking. Like, oh, he had a bad night.

Like, Russell Westbrook last night in the NBA, he had a fucking bad night. He choked, right? But, like, he'll be back and he'll do better than the next time. And yes, I know Donald Trump didn't think nearly that far into the analogy he was making. But I'm saying, I feel like that that is still kind of how it's treated, whether it's the whole bad Apple argument or saying that they're, you know, classifying it as just a choke job,

which there's this implied thing of, well, they'll get it next time. You know, like, fucked up tonight. They'll get it next time. And that's, you know, that ain't it. Yeah. I mean, I think, look, I'm already given too much the benefit of the doubt, like three times here. But, like, maybe it means the yips, like where you lose, you're permanently unsuited for the job.

Like, try and blah, when you've got to throw out of first base. Or, like, he's talking about golf. There are guys who just forgot how to put because you get in the putting arena and you get that anxiety. You're out because you miss the last three and now you just can't do that anymore. You know, I mean, this guy, like, the police are very, very, like, like, Like there's a long article I read a few months ago about survey data on police attitudes about their own job. And they're really, really scared at work. They're scared.

And because they're taught that every time they go out, they might not come home. Statistics do not reflect that. Statistically, it's not one of the top 10 most dangerous jobs in America. And the ways cops get hurt at work are often hurting themselves. Joe Biden made this point yesterday, but more cops have died of COVID this year than died, you know, from violence at work. Right. Um, uh, cop more cops, cops die in car accidents. The cops get hit by other cops cars when they, when they, when they speed into crime scenes because they're amped up for a shootout when it's just a, just a small infraction because they're just what they do.

Um, so they shoot each other. You know, it's like so they're, they are, they are too armed up. They are too scared. Definitely. Right. Yes. I mean, that's that they are, they are, they're scared. That's what's behind so much.

They're like, they're jumpy. They're antsy because they're terrified. But you made me. think of something because they always talk about how they need more training or whatever but is that like is that a result for a lot of them uh of their training meaning like being trained to to be ready and prepared for any situation to result in you know your life being on the line or whatever like this is all coming off the top of my head i haven't i never thought about this way before because to like before my whole thing with it was yeah yes they are afraid they're terrified that's because

they're scared of black people it's because they're scared of black men you know what i mean and obviously i'm just talking about the shitty cops when i say this but like they pull a black guy over and they are afraid because they think black men are dangerous like inherently well but how much of it has to do with like sort of the training they get and everything also you know like they're trained to expect the worst maybe well we're talking about the training they do it they do way more weapons training than is reasonable given their job activities, right? Like their training is training for war, and they get maybe an hour or two of like de-escalation.

I know, I mean, like, people made this point before, but it takes more training to be like a hairdresser that does to be a police officer in the United States. And saying they're all like, you've seen these pieces about the warrior cop guy and the training. Most police officers in America are familiar with this very famous video of a guy getting shot,

a police officer getting shot and killed at a traffic stop. They've all seen it. Right. And they think that's what every traffic stop could be. Now, of course, I'm not saying it's a super safe job and they need to take precautions, but those precautions should not be drawing your service weapon when you approach a guy standing on a sidewalk and then chase him to his car and shoot him in the back. Right. Well, it's also like, and I wasn't in the military either. You know, I got a lot of friends who were in the military. But like, you know, when you're in the military,

when we, I had a lot of buddies that went to Iraq multiple times, somewhere in after. Afghanistan and whatnot. And obviously, when you're over there, it's a very high-stakes situation. You don't know who is or is not a bad guy necessarily. You have all these. And I know things also go wrong in that scenario. But I feel like a huge part of the training they get has to do with, like you said, de-escalation or not automatically taking a situation into that, you know, violent,

homicidal atmosphere because you don't know how it's going to go. But you're on edge, you're tense, you're anxious. You know, and I feel like are cops not getting that specific kind of training? You know, I mean, I don't know how to keep, of course you feel that way. I mean, you know, I get that, but that should be a huge part of the training they get is learning how to manage those feelings and not go into every situation assuming those things, you know. Yeah. I mean, there's a, there's a giant space between what you're off to do and what you do, right? Right.

And then what you're caught doing. So the thing about the military analogy is, one, they do have tighter rules of engagement than American police do. Right. Which is ridiculous. I mean, those rules of engagement are good. Those should exist, too, but it's absurd that they have much tighter rules of engagement in these, you know, foreign operations than domestic police officers do working the streets of American cities or whatever. It's fucking crazy. For example, a military police in American MP serving in Baghdad, if there was a big

protest, would not be allowed to use tear gas and rubber bullets to disperse a crowd. They just, they wouldn't. And if, and if a video went viral of an American soldier, shooting a civilian in back, he'd be in Leavenworth. He would not be, there wouldn't be, there wouldn't be no one saying, obviously you'd be messy message board moron saying he was just doing what soldiers do or whatever, but the military would not cover for them the way these police departments cover for for police officers. Of course, the

U.S. military is not unionized as a part of it. Right. How do you, okay, how do you square that, by the way? I don't think we've talked about this on the show before, but it's something I've thought about because, you know, I'm a just colossal liberal queer, you know, I'm

I'm Carl Marx in my hometown, basically, and I'm not an anarchist or anything, but I'm a pretty pretty liberal guy and like I love you know I'm super pro union I love union I think unions are vital and imperative

but like you just said this the situation we have with American police doesn't play out as often in the military in part because they are not unionized I feel a huge part of the problem with the systemic problems issues we have with American

law enforcement have to do with the police union specifically And how do you square those two things? Because in this particular scenario, the police unions are a huge part of the problem. But unions in general are absolutely necessary. Right. So like how do you reconcile all that? Well, one.

All right. So you brought up Karl Marx. I'll tell you what a socialist activist would tell you, right? is that police exist to defend capital from other from labor like if you if you if you from working people right so the police are huge jc penny will call if a bunch of employees decided to have a sit in and stop operations to get erased the they're they're they it's weird to have a union who's called to strike break other unions which is right where police sit right right um so that sort of makes them way different.

And also, like, they're not, I mean, I'm sure police have a lot of complaints. For one of them to be that they're underpaid seems not fair to me because compared to, like, they get paid in trouble with teachers. See, I always, I always bought into that. I always completely bought into the notion

that they were, like, massively underpaid, just like public school teachers or whatever. And I always thought that that was a big part of the problem. One of my favorite comedians on planet Earth, Roy Wood Jr., from Alabama is on the Daily Show. It's a buddy of mine and a brilliant comedian. He had a whole thing on one of his last specials about how we need to pay cops more

because then there would be a higher standard and everything associated with it. And I never questioned that. I was always like, yeah, they're public employees that completely checks out to me. But like you were just saying, in a lot of places, in a lot of big cities, everything, that's not really true. Like, they get paid pretty fucking well in a lot of places. Now, like if you make it to Sergeant LAPD, your base salaries are $130,000 a year, plus you get like another $100,000 overtime. Right.

That's before the $100,000 in pension and benefits you're getting. So your bet compensation is over $300,000 a year. Right. And then you can retire after 20 years with full pay and then go with your credentials. You can go work security for $100 an hour doing, I'd be doing bodyguard stuff. So I mean, like, so I'm not comparing. But it's not just, it's not just L.A., though, like, because, LA is not the best example to use, generally speaking,

because of how different and weird of a city this is. But that's not just true in LA, though. Like, I know those Minneapolis cops with the George Floyd case, everything, we're making great money. One of the, I can't remember if it was actually the main one or one of the other ones, but they sort of like absconded to their vacation home in Savannah or wherever it was when the shit got deep. The guy that killed George Floyd, you mean?

He had a, his actual address was in, he got also, in addition to the murder, he was going to prison for tax fraud because he, his actual residence was in Florida. He was declaring his residence in Florida where his vacation house was, where he actually lived, by the way. He was commuting from Florida to work his shifts in Minneapolis because he was moving them around. And its undeclared income was like $300,000, which is like where that's your, that's your undeclared excess income. So, right. Yeah. See, like, I don't, I don't know. I don't think there's too many public school teachers.

doing that shit living life that way. Maybe I'm not, I profile football, high school football coaches maybe. Right, yes. Other than that, it's not happening. I was one that I always drew that that, like, that connection between the two.

Always made that same analogy, you know, like cops and teachers are underpaid and that's where the issues, a lot of the issues we have with each of them come from. But yeah, that's not really true for a lot of police officers.

Yeah, I mean, the reason I'm referenced LAPD is just used as a stand-in for any big city department, because I'm sure there's like a guy who works for the Salina, you know, sheriff's department isn't banking like that, right? But to Roy's point, if the one thing you could do with, if you paid more is have stuff like college degree requirements, which departments that do aren't perfect, but they tend to be better than department. They kill less people and get less youth to force complaints if they've had to sit through four years of college for whatever reason. I don't know why.

Maybe it's because having to socialize with a bunch of people you didn't grow up around. Why don't your worldview a little bit or whatever? Yeah. I mean, I think it's that. And I also think it's just having to like, I don't know, having to meet certain parameters. Do you know what I mean? like going to college and completing it. Because I always heard that even when I was in college.

Like, ah, the degree and all that doesn't really matter that much to most employers. What they care about is that you finished a thing, that you were able to, like, get into and then finish a thing that says something about a person. And I think that a lot of, like, a lot of small time cops especially, and probably ones in cities too, like, I think a lot of times what happens, is they've, they've, they can't do much else. Do you know what I mean? Like they've like, they've fucked up other opportunities, but are able to, you know, get into law enforcement or, or whatever. And if you have like degree requirements and whatnot, you eliminate some of that.

It, like, it necessitates a certain degree of responsibility, you know, that I feel like, it seems like a lot of cops don't have the ones you fuck up anyway. And there, I mean, like, there are, one reason. police unions are bad and like i am pro you i mean i'm in a i'm in the i'm in a unit so um yeah uh police are almost impossible to fire for a lot of reasons and like at least pretty insane results um uh reason which is a libertarian uh publication i read because they're interesting even though i disagree with a lot of stuff they uh they report obviously but they they have a they have a running segment of america's worst worst cop um and it's a guy in florida and i'm going to try and um

Fine. Okay. This guy has been, I can't find the article around off the top of my head. So excuse me, I have a fledgly view details. He's been fired 17 times, right? He's been arrested a half dozen. During that span, he's been reinstated every time he's been fired. And he's gotten promoted to sergeant.

And one of the things he got fired for is they've literally caught him having sex on duty with a person he was arresting and they found cocaine in his car. Right? This guy is still employed making six figures. They cannot get rid of him. This guy could pull you over in Florida, right? So I don't have a, I don't have a perfect solution for why, um, why everybody else can have a union except police officers.

I'm just saying you got, there's got, the negotiations have to be, the city, the whole line is new negotiations to be able to have better discipline because it's a little ridiculous. Adjacent to this argument or, uh, the conversation we're having related topic is another thing I didn't think about too much admittedly before all of this, you know, came into the forefront publicly here in America

was the idea that if you call a plumber to come to your house or an electrician or anything like that they got to be licensed. You know, they got to have a certificate.

Dude, fucking sex shops have to be licensed. There's like a, there's like a dick and butt board for the state of Tennessee that has to license sex shops and they should. They should have to be licensed.

By the way. But like, you got to have to have. have a license to be a handyman or you know uh to to have a dildo store to be an electrician or whatever but you don't but you don't have to have a license to be a cop and like that's weird to me because you because like you know lawyers like lawyers can be disbarred you know uh doctors can be discredited or whatever the word is for whenever that happens to a doctor but like that can losing metaphor.

Why does that not apply? Yeah. Why don't we do that with cops? What's the problem with doing that with cops? If we could do it with fucking plumbers, we can't do it with cops? They do have like, there are, I mean, maybe it's not every state, but I know Texas because they live there has a,

a Leo law enforcement officer certification. You have to have that to be able to continue. But a lot of that just like comes with it. When you join the police organization, it means you get insurance in case you kill someone. So, right. But okay, how do you lose that? You know, it was back to what you were saying to me ago about them essentially having tenure or whatever.

If they do require them to have certifications, but you effectively can't lose it or can't have any kind of like repercussions that affect your certification based upon your conduct is, you know. Yeah. And you can't even get sued because of qualified immunity. Right. So whether they like have certifications or not, they de facto are untouchable. But anyway, so, you know, bitching about cost for 22 minutes. I could do 22 hours on it. But we open with Trump and the dumb shit he said, but he's been on one.

Like, I mean, not by his standards. He stays on one. But you were telling me earlier about. Because I haven't seen this because the tweets got deleted apparently, but he went on a Twitter tirade today as he is want to do about people saying he had a stroke and he was denying that he had a stroke or something like that. Like what happened with that? So a book's about to come out and excerpts being published, which has some reporter that covers the White House. This falls in category of you should have told us this shit when you knew it and not waited for your book in the mouth. but whatever. There's a, Trump was rushed to hospital months ago. And they tried to not tell anybody

about it. It came out later and like, oh, there was a routine. They said it was the first step of his routine physical, but it was like 3 a.m. It didn't make any sense. Nobody believed it, but they just, nothing ever came about what it was. The book says that Mike Pence on this night was notified to be prepared to take over the duty as a president. Now that could mean Trump's about to die. It could mean he's going under anesthesia. But they got him both the 20th for that. happen i'm not sure what was happening anyway that's all you know about it pitts was asked about it and did not deny it um so i'm not sure i think um joe lockhart said it on cnn and people were joking about on twitter that he had a bunch of mini strokes wasn't a big deal nobody cared because

nobody knows right but he went on twitter tirade denying that he ever had any strokes without citing any reason where it came from just like it'd be like if i were to announce right here on the evening skews that i have never um you know had sex with my neighbor's feet, right? And you're like, wait, Nordais, anything about that. What are you talking about?

Like, why are you? Obviously, that means I did it. You know what I'm saying? Right. So he was a, he'd allth protested too much type situation. And so he tweeted about like 10 times.

Then they were gone later about how he, how he would never have a, he's too strong brain to ever have a stroke, I guess. I don't know. Well, it's just like, it's like that thing we were talking about a few weeks ago about the,

uh, the mental competency test that he aced and was so proud of, you know, and was bringing it up and like, trying to say Joe Biden should have to take it to and everything. And everyone else is like you don't, why would you have to like, the only reason you're given that test is if people need to determine whether you are competent or not. I mean, we can't get to the bottom of this.

It is like it is really depressing in general that the election is going to be decided by who dribble is apples to out of their mouth at the latest. All right. But, yeah, so again, Trump said a lot of crazy shit. He went on the tirade about the strokes. He said the thing. He made the golf analogy about release brutality. He engaged in one of his favorite traditions, which is refusing to denounce another obvious villain or bad person. I'm talking now about Rittenhouse, Kyle Rittenhouse, a 17-year-old who shot the people at the protest in Kenosha.

We talked about him in the last episode. Trump was asked about him, and just like he did with Galane Maxwell and, uh, and the, the fucking the Nazis at Charlottesville and Roger Stone and you name it. He refused to, he refused to say anything remotely negative about this kid who just shot three people and killed two of them. And like, it's like we were talking about with Maxwell a couple weeks ago with this type of shit. I don't understand, like, even from a political angle, like,

you don't have to you don't if you're on that side of things you don't have to like harshly condemn his actions or whatever I mean obviously I do and I think that a person should but if you're a hardcore conservative you don't have

to do that but you also don't have to like just say oh to defend people like this you know but like he just he has this thing where he's just unwilling to criticize

people that are aligned with him in the, you know, in the public arena politically or whatever. I think, I hesitate to call this smart, but I think he does, he does because he's a low-information voter who just is responding to what he sees on TV. I think he innately connects with some, a lot of things people, like, think is bullshit about politics. But so I think it's dumb how politicians have to take stances on everything, although this violence is bad. I think it's a very clear layup to say, hey, don't shoot people, right? but like do you like do you sir do you want to denounce this guy be like I don't know him I didn't tell him to people why you that like it's like how everybody has to take a stance on whap or whatever it's like I don't like it's like it's dumb okay the Biden had to like people

asking Biden to denounce the people in Kenosha as if as if one they're out their own behalf of Joe Biden which they're not they the kid the written house kid probably thought he was there with that Trump that's a different that's so maybe Trump is a more of an obligation but like what is it you'd be like I never met the people throwing rocks in Kenosha I think looting is bad. That's a given. What are you talking about here? Well, but okay.

But so, like, like you said, it's a layup to just say, obviously, you shouldn't have your mama drive you across state lines with a high-powered rifle and end up shooting three people. Like, you shouldn't do that. You know, like, it's a layup. It's a layup to say, you know, something similar about Galane Maxwell. And you brought up Biden and, like, people asking him, like, trying to make him defend. the riots and shit like that and you said you know just say of course i don't of course i don't condone that but like but biden did he did say that he did say he said i he's like i you know i renounce any type of violence including looting like obviously that is bad and that doesn't

that's not him saying that's not him uh you know rebuking the protesters in my opinion that's him just being like, yeah, of course, of course, you shouldn't fucking break windows and burn shit down. And like, it's easy to say, and he said it. But for the record, though, plenty of super liberals on Twitter were pissed off about that when he did that. Like, people got upset with Biden for saying that thing. So, I mean, you know, people are going to get mad no matter what you say, I guess. But some of this shit, like you said, it's just, it's a fucking layup. It shouldn't be that hard.

You know, but I don't know, Trump just can't do it. I think the reason people get mad about it is there's only so much oxygen, right? And if you say five things, then people are going to pick up on the one they prefer to report on. And the actual message can get very lost really easily, right? Yep. So it's like if you don't, in my opinion, you shouldn't take the bait of saying something basic. It's just like if 10,000 people in the streets and, 40 other break windows and light of fire,

I'm not sure that diminishes the moral purpose of what they're out there for. You know, and for sure. I'm not sure how to, I'm not a professional political, you know, operative. I don't know how to frame things in a way that keeps people focused on the ball, the problem here. But I think people think that if you,

if you make the focus of your, of your discussion, it's like, if you make it, of course, police shouldn't execute people in the street. However, and do a thousand words on looting. It's like you're putting the emphasis on the wrong thing. I'm assuming it's the fear. Yeah. Well, I mean, you know, yes, it's a minefield.

You've got to navigate if you're going to get into politics. That's for sure. But again, some of these things are fucking layups, or they should be. And Trump misses the layups. He chokes. Some people just choke. You know, they miss a three-foot put. Yep.

But another thing that he's been on about is all this conspiracy shit. He's talking about written house and he wouldn't denounce him and the police brutality and the three foot putt and all that stuff and all that shit aside. He also went into this whole thing which he's brought up periodically in recent months. At least three times the last two days and then Barr got it on two. the idea that there are like Antifa operatives who are deployed

on planes to these American cities to go there and to break shit and burn shit and cause unrest and whatnot and he also said that Joe Biden like people are very shadowy

people are behind the Biden campaign and all this stuff and it's just like conspiracy theorist baiting bullshit that he keeps doing and it's just insane again to me

should be a fucking layup like these insane conspiracy theories that are becoming almost mainstream in America it shouldn't be hard and it also shouldn't be politically detrimental to say about these types of things like

clearly that is bullshit right but let's talk about an actual issue. You know what I mean? Like, it's crazy to me that this falls under the umbrella of, you know, like. But these things have always been, I mean, like, you go back from like how, I mean, not just McCarthyism, but the FBI thing in the MLK was a Soviet agent and the John Burt's society, thinking of the Communists and taking up the State Department.

And, you know, I don't know, man. It happens up like the whole, the Clinton body, like, there's a great book by Jeffrey Tobein called a vast conspiracy about, like, the plot to get to impeach Bill Clinton was hatched like six months before he was inaugurated. And, I mean, these guys were open about it. They weren't trying to, like, the whole Clinton body count thing and Clinton smuggling cocaine through Arkansas airport, it's like, if you really, if you want to smuggle cocaine, what you do is you take it through Arkansas with a podunk governor.

in the 80s, as we could do. All the Clinton body count murder board stuff. Like, this stuff is always with us. I don't understand why and why we can't get rid of it. But like, do you remember the congressman in, I mean, holy shit. The reason Linda Tripp went to Ken Starr and snitched on Monica for blowing Bill was because she had been convinced by right-wing radio that her boss was Vince Foster. And then his suicide was fake.

and she was going to be next because she knew what he knew, which she didn't know what that was. And there was a congressman who videotaped himself shooting a watermelon in his backyard and trying to demonstrate how Vince Foster couldn't have killed himself. These maniacs are always around that I hate it so much. Yes. Yes, you're right.

Yeah, conspiracy theories are, you know, timeless. They go back. But there's especially, there's there's especially um for for developed nation um that's ostensibly the most forward and uh you know advanced uh powerful nation in the world they're remarkably prevalent persistent here in a ways that i find incredibly depressing right okay well that well that's what i was about to say because you you know you started that out by being like oh these types of things have always been around and you're right they have but i feel like they're way more prevalent way more mainstream

way more acceptable now than they have been in my recollection, you know, and I'm also very disappointed by that. But, like, why? Why? Is that true? What do we do about that? Because, like, I don't know what to say to these people, man. Like, we mentioned it recently on here and talking about, like, QAnon stuff. You informed me about it on the show. Later that night, my wife was, I brought up to her, And she was like, oh, yeah, yeah, I know all about, you know, I'm on Facebook. I see all that crazy shit on there. And she was like, have you not, have you not seen any of the actual videos? And I was like, no.

And she was like, oh, my God, you got to see this shit. And she, like, she pulled up some of the Q&M videos that people, her, some of her Facebook friends had, you know, shared with captions like, unbelievable, you know, open your eyes, whatever else. And it's just like, I guess I don't know what to say to these. people because if you, I don't, I don't know how anyone can watch these Q&M videos and not immediately know that it is some crazy, outlandish, clearly false bullshit. Like, it blows my mind that anybody is roped in by that stuff. And let me say, like, I'm not, I'm dumb about that kind of shit. I can be gotten by conspiracy theories. It's happened to me before. When I was like 18, I saw this pseudo documentary on like Cynamax at three in the morning one night.

It was called What the Bleep Do We Know? And it's about the whole thing is about like the power of the human mind and how like you can control the world with your brain. And they had all these interviews and all these like. They got enough involved with Nixium and the, that ESP sex call, right? dude i don't know probably i don't know i don't know about it on e on HBO right now it's called the val it's pretty good okay but they but that yeah all this stuff they had all these like stories and evidence of like monks in you know Nepal somewhere praying for for a month about a particular subject and then it worked and it changed and the prayer worked and what like

all this type of shit like that about the power to control things with your brain and I saw that one night, went to my friend's apartment, you know, the next night, Saturday or whatever. It was sitting there smoking weed. And I was like, you guys, you guys don't know about this stuff? Let me say about this stuff. And I, like, went into the whole thing. And my buddy Jimmy, when I got done with him, he sat there. He looked at me for a minute.

And he was like, Trey, that is some of the dumbest shit I've ever heard. He was like, are you serious? Monks have brain. He was like, what are you talking about? And it was like, as soon as he said it, I realized, oh, yeah. That is dumb. But, like, then when I was 21 or 22, something like that, I saw the loose change documentaries, which are 9-11 Truther videos you could find on the internet.

I saw those, and those about got me. They didn't, but as I was watching in the middle of them, I was like, I can see where this is coming from. Like, I can be gotten by this type of shit. And I watched this QAnon stuff, and it blows my fucking mind. that people don't immediately know how ridiculous, stupid, and clearly false all of this is. You know, like, it's crazy. A good rule of thumb to pull yourself out of conspiracy spire was, one, to think about the motive

and whether that makes sense, because it almost never does, right? Like, all Bush did 9-11, so we could go to war in Iraq. It's like, we went to war in Iraq like three times before that. Nobody, we didn't need a reason. He's fucking do it. I don't need, like, who cares? two could me or any of my friends

pull this off no it has too many steps it takes requires too many secrets okay then no it's totally unrealistic like like Bill Clinton couldn't get away with a blowjob but only two people two people were in the room and knew about right so how the hell are you thick in the moon landing they would take thousands of people right

right yep me and you have talked about this before like I I thought this already but especially having actually worked for the federal government government, like, the federal government, they lack the capacity, they lack the competency to pull off some of these elaborate schemes that people are talking about. And the whole Q&O thing, like, Donald Trump is, he's like, he's like the secret fucking James Bond in charge of the only, the only ring of people who are fighting against this global cabal of pedophilic

cannibals or whatever. He's the, he's the guy. He's the fucking. the Superman of that movement and he keeps it under wraps. It's like, if you've ever seen him talk, have you ever seen him discuss anything? How could you possibly believe that that is true? That he's a secret agent. The narrative is that he's known about this pedophile,

uh, uh, child sex trafficking ring for 40 years. There's never gotten around to actually do anything about it because he had to set this plan in motion. A plan by the way that were relied upon him, You know, winning a 16-wave primary with 30% of the primary votes and then losing electoral college but barely squeaking by 80,000 votes in three states. It's not a good plan.

It had a lot of points where it could go wrong. So it's, yeah, it requires a lot of magical thinking. And anyway, can we talk about the Antifa Air Airborne? Yes. Yes. I was going to say part of the conspiracy theories, I'm pulling up the video right now. part of this whole conspiracy you know

fucking the conspiracy cinematic universe that they've woven has to do with Antifa and Antifa's actions and Antifa's like secret missions and people Antifa deploying

you know vans or buses or airplanes or whatever deploying like battalions of secret shadow quarters was the old the old video that's when Antifa was broke and just

that's when they were just starting out as a band you know that's when it was to sleep in the butt now they got private they got planes trade this video right here I think it's yeah

they just keep talking about all the shadowy shit Antifa is up to and they're different schemes and and strategies and motivations

and stuff like that that these people love talking about this shit. And this is one of my favorite results or favorite examples of that that I have yet seen. As always, Mark, if this audio isn't working, tell me. But here we go. It's water. And they have cans of soup. Soup. And they throw the cans of soup. That's better than a brick because you can't throw a brick. It's too heavy. The can of soup, you can really put some power into that, right? And then when they get

caught, they get a fire on it. For my family. They're so innocent. This is soup for my family. It's a fucking, all right. We're going to keep going with this. But yeah, it's like, a can of soup is better than a brick because you can't

throw a brick. Yeah, you can't. People throw bricks all the time. You know, who broke who breaks all the bank windows, you know, other than fucking liberals with bricks. Like, don't throw, I mean, don't, don't throw either of people. If I'm

recommending, if I'm recommending you to do anything, don't throw either of people. But if you're going to hit me with something, I'd much prefer the can of beans to the brick. Of course. Right. Exactly. Like, you, and then he's, and then, what do he say? He's like, he's like,

because you can't throw a brick rat, and then you hear this fucking boot liquor in the front row is like, yes, sir. That's true, sir. It's like, no, it isn't. I got, anyway. I mean, if you go to like. And you have people. Hit me with a can of beans because you get a concussion,

when you wake up, you got some beans, you know? Right, yeah. Coming over with bags of soup, big bags of soup. And they lay it in the ground and the anarchist take it and they start throwing it at our cops, at our police. And if it hits you, that's worse than a brick because it's got force. No, it isn't.

It's a perfect size. It's like made perfect. And when they get caught, they say, no, this is just soup for my family. And then the media is, media says, this is just, these people are very, very innocent. They're innocent people. These are just protesters. Isn't it wonderful to allow protesting? No. And by the way, the media knows it better than we do. They know what's going on. I don't know what's wrong with them. Oh, my God. That is a very silly clip, but it gives away the game when he says, these anarchists

are throwing soup at our police. It's like, well, they're them and they're must, but those people paying Texas too right so it's very clear yeah but it's just the whole like if you get he literally said the president of united states literally said if you get hit with this can of soup that's worse than getting hit with a brick it's like know it in what universe is like you just said hell at least you got beans after that but also like if i have to choose between getting hit with a brick and hit with a can of soup hit me with the can of soup like what the fuck is he talking about? Is it cream mushroom? Because that shit sucks.

That's the nice casserole soup. Oh my God, man. But I got to tell you, though, I do kind of think they might be on to something with this, Mark, with the soup specifically. Because, like I said, like people are bringing these liberal agents, these liberal provocateurs, they're bringing

bags of soup. Bags of soup to showing up with. And who is the biggest socialist who's like you know the godhead of these

young liberal socialist provocateurs Bernie Sanders right and I've said I have said on the record for years now

that Bernie Sanders is clearly the soup eating this son of a bitch I've ever seen in my life look at him and tell me

that ain't a soup eating motherfucker Bernie Sanders he loves soup so how else would these How else would these agents of liberal chaos have even gotten the idea to use soup? If not from the soup eating this motherfucker in the United States of America, Senator Bernie Sanders.

For sure. He's got a, my man hasn't eaten solid food in 20 years. He doesn't have time. It's too busy starting a revolution. Oh, dude, I, I've, I've bitched about this plenty of times before in other, in other avenues. But I don't think we talked about it on here, but I, um, I got. I pissed a lot of people off with that early on and this whole thing for me. Like after I first went viral and started to get a following and had people paying attention to me,

it was in the 2016 election. It was even before, like, it was before Hillary even got named the nominee and whatnot. And I voted for Bernie Sanders. I love Bernie Sanders. Okay, I always have. I voted for him this time too. But in one of my videos, I made that joke about him being a soup-eating motherfucker or whatever, which is just such a silly, ridiculous.

People thought of anti-Semitic or something? No, do people? I mean, I don't know what it, but it pissed people off. People were mad. People were like, okay, I'm canceling my book order. I'm unfollowing you, all this shit. Like, how dare you insinuate that Bernie Sanders eat soup? And it's like, look at him.

He's a fucking, he loves soup. Guarantee you he loves soup. But anyway, as one of his followers, you know, Yeah, he's been sending out these secret messages. That's what they don't know on the conservative side. If you're on the Antifa mailing list, which Bernie Sanders is in charge of, he sends out, you know, like a soup report every month that says, these are the soups I recommend.

This column is for enjoying yourself when you need a nice lunch. This column is for beaning a conservative width upside the head on the street. streets of Milwaukee. Yeah. You got to break. I mean, we need to do a weapons test to see whether Progresso is better than like, you know, Campbell. Yeah.

Weapons test. Yeah. Fucking bags of soup. And when you stop them, they say, oh, no, this is just a bag of soup for my family. This is just my family soup. Like, what the fuck are you talking? We're fucking Donovan McNab's mom from those Campbell's chunky. soup commercials when we were

kids back in the day. I do love his act out of us you know, regular person is like it's like it's very very Dickensy and it's like, oh, this is just soup for my family. Please, sir, I can have some more. No, I need this soup, sir.

Please don't take it. I didn't mean to hit the police officers. Just soup for my grandmother, please. Fucking ridiculous. Yeah, pretty perfect. All right, shit, so let's see what you guys

are saying, what y'all got going on. While I'm looking through those, trying to find something. Let's talk briefly about the polls. The RNC was last week, and there's been, I've seen a lot of headlines and stuff about the effect the RNC had on the polls and on the election.

If you look at Fox News, they're saying the Republicans are bullish. They're bullish after a big bump. A big bump. A post. convention bump that they got. But that's not, that's not really, it's not really played out, right, Mark?

Nah, it's like, I mean, the, uh, Biden's lead's been pretty static for like four months now. Nothing much changes it. I mean, like, really like, Trump needs to be within five to win. Because you can be,

he can lose by five and still win the electoral college, depending on, you know, um, where the how the votes shake out where, especially if he wins Florida. And Florida is always a weird, Florida results usually come in about three to four percent more Republican than their poll show.

Not really clear why that is maybe because there's so much military vote there. But they did mail-in. They don't show up in polls. But yeah, that would be the concern. But he's stayed between seven and like nine and a half points. Trump's convention bounce got the lead down to 7.1 today and like 538's polling average. So if that's if that's the best it gets from me, really, look, I said this in January.

It was weird to be having all these democratic debates. The primaries win. The election is going to be decided by whatever happens with COVID. I mean, it's just true. It's like, if nobody can leave their house in November, Trump's not winning. That's just true. Right. Yeah.

Well, yeah. I mean, that's been their thing the whole time. Like, as far voter suppression goes, it's largely a conservative technique in this country. And that's why. With every iteration, every version of it, going back to the fucking post-war South, you know, when it comes to voter suppression, it's because if those people are allowed to vote, the more people that are allowed to vote, they'll lose. Yeah. But, you know, fuck it, what are we going to do? Let's see here.

A lot of people digging the soup conversation. Well, the soup heads out there. Okay, let's see here. This one. Oh, it doesn't, okay, it doesn't show the whole comment. Jennifer Finch said, could you please explain why an all-powerful shadow organization would send their left-wing operatives on a mission via a commercial airline, commercial airline for your covert operations, where they then discussed their nefarious plans allowed in the presence of R&C guests on board. And then there's a foreign word at the end of that, and I don't do too good with foreign words,

so I can't read the last part of it. But yes, that's just, to me, that's just the, like, just the tip of the, this shit don't make no sense, iceberg, where it's, where, where the Antifa, you know, that vans and shit are concerned. That goes back to my thing about, like, the conspiracy there is fall apart. You think about the motive for a second. Like, wait, if you, say, George Soros, whoever is trying to, what, swing the election, that's what, they're trying to do a communist revolution by installing Joe Biden. That's the plan here. Okay, well, that doesn't make any sense. But second of all, like, wouldn't this money be better spent on swinging, like, state-level races?

You know? So, like, you drop 100,000 in a state legislative race. You can make the difference. But instead, you're going to fly 30 Antifa people equipped with homemade shields made out of half a plastic barrel. That's what they're carrying around. And using milk to drown out chemical weapons so they don't have gas masks. and that's what instead they're buying planes

they're air dropping antiv, okay, it makes sense. Yeah. Yeah, also like to do what, to accomplish what? Like, what is supposed to be the motivation for sending? The first civil unrest that everyone's seems to think helps Trump.

I think they're probably wrong about that. But like, if you can't have it both ways, you can't be like, all these protests and lack of law and order is going to get Trump reelected. And also, the left is financing these secret. I know.

Right. No, that's what I'm saying. Like, I don't understand how that's even supposed to work. Like, right. Yeah, like you said, to foment unrest. And that's what you're basing your entire re-election campaign on. I mean, that's what the campaign, the being the party of law and order and putting down said unrest.

Why would we keep, you know, push I mean like they I mean like I don't believe that's like that's going to help Trump get reelected one way or the other or I don't think the civil I think in large part the beginning the protest obviously moved people's opinions the beginning now I think it's largely like everything everything's baked in I don't think anything it's going to move the needle on the presidential election anymore with this stuff but the um but like who's bought into it seems to be the right wing malicious because they're trying to escalate it like patriot prayer and proud boys seem to think they're helping by making the protest more uh more heightened you know yeah yeah gray uh resnick sorry if i mispronounced that i'm sure i did said i don't trust any polls that's how we screwed ourselves last time so we're talking about the polls a minute ago uh i mean i hear that because i'm not going to lie i was one of those people like i did i did not think he was going to win i was like very confident last time and i'm not resting on any laurels this time around but everybody everybody's memory holds a lot about me like i haven't met a person who decided

I decided not to vote because they thought Hillary had it locked in. I haven't met that person. So I'm not quite clear when people say that. I mean, obviously it's swatter emotions because people were overconfident, but I don't know how it actually affected the result. But also, the polls were accurate. Like people, people, people, memory hold this. Like, they predicted Hillary will win by like two to three percent of the popular vote.

She did. Right? They did, but people get mad at the matter of the weatherman. if he says there's only 30% chance to rain and it rains. He was wrong. No, he wasn't wrong. He told you the 30% chance was going to happen. They told you at the time 30% chance to run up a win.

He won. Like, it wasn't, I mean, I don't know why I'm defending those nerds to do the polls. Who cares? You know what, screw it. You're right. Screw him. Don't believe him. Punch him in the head.

Well, Dumbledore Calrician, who is like a, yeah, like a Kennedy of the nerd world here, just like, royalty on both sides. Dumbledore Calarizian said, don't say that shit. We have to vote regardless whether he think he'll win or lose. And yes, I agree with you completely Dumbledore. For sure. Even if you think he's locked up to lose, run up to score.

Make it a fucking, like, make, because the real, I, look, I don't think there's any, I don't think there's any shot of him actually winning the vote. I think there's much less chance of him win the electoral college. There's a chance they win that toward college, but, you know, more so than the vote. But the danger comes if the results close, they can say what happens between November and January, it gets dangerous, right? Try to make it 10 points if you can. So the state, state, Republican state legislators don't start feeling frisky about what they can do to throw out the actual vote totals and reassign the electors. Absolutely. And I mean, I think he's going to start

some shit no matter what happens, but I think yes. Like, our motivation should be if we can at all to make it a fucking blowout so that when he starts his inevitable bullshit about questioning the results of it, it will hold a lot less water. If it's fucking, if it's real close, you know, it's going to be a fucking nightmare,

man. One reason I'm hesitant to critique the huge protests that they stumble into a little bit of a, you know, property destruction is like if that happens, and because the Constitution says the states get to decide how the apportioner electors, it doesn't, like, we've

opted to do it via elections. But nothing says we have to. The state legislatures in Wisconsin and North Carolina, who were very heavily Republican gerrymandered, even though they live in states to get more Democratic votes. They have Republican supermajorities. Very easily decided to figure out another scheme to say the elections tainted and they're assigning their electors to Trump.

So like literally the only thing that might stop them might be huge mobs outside the Capitol building, like Belarus right now. So I, yeah. Kathy Ann Crane said commercial airlines, don't screen for soup. I'm talking about why would Antifa use commercial airlines? Well, there you go.

It's more than three ounces of liquid, though. I know. That's what I was thinking. I was like, Kathy, I like the joke. I'm not sure if that's true, though. I think they do look for soup. You just knocked another hole in the conspiracy theory. Yeah, the TSA specifically was thinking about soup when they made that rule. It wasn't about shampoo.

Yeah. Let's see here. Mike Francisco says good one, soup Tifa. That's who we are. Cheryl McMillan Allen, hold the house, flip the Senate, vote blue, and take a carload with you. Yeah, that's what we've got to do. I'm voting five times.

Deirdre Cannon says, I still think people, I still think people are stupid enough to vote this guy back in because people are lazy, so sad. I actually do think, like, you said that earlier, Mark, you said, I haven't met a person who voted, who didn't vote. vote because they thought Hillary had it locked up. I can think of a couple people who, like, I haven't asked because I don't even want to, I don't know the answer and they might lie, but who I would bet fall under that category, meaning, like, I don't know, man, I absolutely think there were a lot of liberals in 2016 who did fully believe that he had no real shot at actually winning and who were not about that Hillary life and didn't want to hold their nose.

and vote and thought they could get away with that and thus sat at home. I really, I think that was a thing. And I think or at least hope that this time around, after we got punched in the mouth last time, hopefully that won't happen. I still think the primary problem was people not being inspired to vote for Hillary for whatever reason. I don't think we're doing some sort of like, first of all, like, if you're just voting for president, you're doing it wrong anyway. They're much more usual years.

much more important elections to your day-to-day life. Mayor, for example, school board. Right. Yeah. So vote, and even if you don't give a shit of the presidential election, even if you don't want to vote for Biden, still go vote. Yeah. Absolutely. Look at the editorial page for a newspaper

you a trust to tell you how to vote on those valid issues that no one can possibly understand because they're worded weird. And go vote. Absolutely. Okay. I'm clicking this, even though I already know I don't know how to respond to it. Dewey Duquesne says, Trey, what do you think we can do to ensure that as many of our votes get counted as possible?

I don't, I don't know, man. I don't know what you think about it, Mark. I mean, I'm very worried. What I've been worried about the whole time is some nefarious skull duggery on their side where the election is concerned. But I know that, like, states really run the elections, so hopefully that will keep some of that in check. But I mean, I don't know just as a regular person. I don't know how to go about making sure that they're talking about

tracking of voting machines. I don't have any solution to that or understand how anybody would guard against it, which is why we should use paper ballots probably. But the elections run by volunteers of polling places, sweet little old ladies putting ballots in boxes, county commissioners who are not in it for the money. And, you know, it's like if you, If they do something, it will be obvious because it require heavy-handed reaching down and it will be a thousand anonymous sources.

I mean, like, I've been to this debate before. People think there's a ton of fraud on the Democratic side. It requires, like, you can go through an, you can go county by county, polling place by polling place, and make sure the vote totals match up with the votes cast on a ground level. You would have to hack the Buckingham County, where I'm from, Buckingham County Commissioner website and do that for every county in America. and it's just like there's some upside to an incredibly disorganized society. It's not

centralized enough to control this shit. Right. What's the way to do stuff like fuck with the mail. They can control that. They can discourage people. What they can't do is actually control shit. Right. Like we were saying earlier, in my opinion,

generally speaking, they lack the capacity to pull off something like, like that and that's what i'm hanging my hat on every night it's hoping that is true what they're really doing for this i don't even think that the the post office was supposed to actually affect the actual mail what it does do is makes you feel already defeated so you don't even try that's what they want to drive down turnout they want to make you depressed and mad and sad think the battle's already lost yep and yeah it ain't it's not you got to show up fuck it got to show

up do the damn thing all right well uh let's get out of here i'll see you in a few minutes mark we're an outside outdoor socially distance birthday thing for a friend of the show Drew Morgan. If y'all follow me, you know he tours with me. It's Drew's birthday. How about that? Diamond Drew's birthday. Hey, birthday, Diamond Drew.

Yeah, you piece of shit. All right, well, fuck you. Yeah, fucking asshole. I'll see you there, Mark. And we will see you guys in 48 hours on Thursday's edition of evening skews. See you let you by. All right. Hey, everybody.

welcome back today is Thursday September 3rd I'm Trey Crowder that's Mark IG what's up Mark Hey yeah this is evening skews and as always tonight we begin with a dumbass report and I'm gonna go ahead and tell you with some of the topics we got lined up to talk about tonight

any one of them could have been contenders for this honor but there can be only one and for those purposes tonight we turn not to President Donald Trump but in fact to his arch nemesis the Democratic Speaker of the house, Nancy Pelosi.

And to be clear up front, we're not saying, we're not calling Pelosi herself the Daily Dumbass. We're saying that this story as a whole and everything related to it is among the dumber things happening in American current events. So what happened

was Speaker Pelosi got her hair did, a right that has been considered sacrosanct amongst mammoths everywhere since the dawn of time. But these are not typical times we're living in and in the age of COVID everything is complicated up to and including getting your haircut especially in the state of California where Pelosi is in the bay area hair salons have been closed down

by order of law since March and they only reopened on September 1st but importantly they reopened for outdoor services so imagine the outrage when speaker Pelosi was caught on camera inside of a San Francisco salon and also not wearing a mask. I know it's hard to stomach. But if you think I'm upset about it, Speaker, White House Press Secretary, Kaylee, Macananani, how are you said. McAlackie.

McAlaque was so disturbed by the footage that she made it the backdrop of her entire press briefing today. And let's say a little bit of that. Good afternoon, everyone. Two briefings ago, I asked, where is Nancy Pelosi? Today, I can announce we have found Nancy Pelosi. Nancy Pelosi going into her whole salon. We will be playing the video on loop for all of you to see during the duration of this introduction.

Holy shit, it's a new water gate. I like that we asked where is you, she was and then we found her like it's like that point when Paul Bremer came out, it's like, well you know, they called Saddam's like, ladies and gentlemen, we got it. Right. Yeah. And yes, playing it on a loop.

And it's just Nancy Pelosi walking through a salon clearly without a mask on her face. I have a lot of thoughts about this in general, Mark, but I've been talking for a minute. So why don't you get us started? What the fuck, buddy? This is not 30% Pelosi's fault, but she is really, really, I mean, I'm sure I guess there are parts she's done she's good at, like, like, like, uh, uh, ushering a bill through, uh,

you know, her chamber. But the actual optics of politics, she's terrible. Like, I mean, when she did, uh, James Gordon bid in front of 37 kinds of ice cream and quarantine stock, it was like a thousand dollars worth of gold like ice cream or whatever. She's like, just don't do that. It, it's always hilarious that we, like, we love to argue about hypocrisy in America. Like, yeah, Nancy Pelosi broke a rule by not wearing a mask and go and get her hair her hair done. Also, rich people do what they want. She has the money to buy, to pay the place to open back up just for her.

She's only coming contact with the hairstylist, which if long as water, both of them is wearing that out, it's probably fine. If Nancy Pelosi gets COVID, she's in a high risk group, it's her problem. You know, she's not, it's just like, I understand, I understand that people want to be like, well, how come you're breaking a rule there, but the slons are open to the rest of California. it was just the bay and they were open up two days later. It's like, I just can't bring myself to care. And it is really funny.

You know that Trump campaign's losing when they're resorting this shit like this. It's just so flailing. Yes. Well, okay. On that note, I get back to some of the details of the situation. I understand them a little bit later. But in particular regarding what you just said about like, you know, they're losing when they're focusing on this. I feel like this is almost always what happened.

Like, you know, is this. been pointed out a million times, all of Obama's biggest scandals from the right were just totally inconsequential little, like, trivial bullshit, like the tan suit or the coffee in his hand with the salute or

the mustard stain and shit like that. And then their scandals are, you know, treason and stuff. So, like, it's just it is, like, I do, I mean, I feel like if you're in her position, you have to be more aware of the situation than that, you know, like, dude, I haven't gotten a haircut

what I think all this shit's about. And not because I'm worried about what, like, people will say or whatever, but it's just like, it's, the whole situation is weird. And, you know, but if you're in that high, if you're under that much scrutiny and that high profile position, you do have to be more aware than that. But yes, what is the dumbest thing about all of this is how much of a thing they're trying to make out of it because they don't have much of anything else. And that's how it almost always plays out, in my opinion. Yeah. I mean, like, it's one of those things where, like, everybody's right and everybody's wrong.

Like, Kaylee McCaffrey or whatever her name is, is right. She should be in Washington. Like, she should be at work trying to pass a bailout bill. And she shouldn't be in a salon, but, like, this is what we do in America. It's like, they're not going to do anything. and she's pretending to run for re-election even though she's a shoe in. And yeah, I don't know. I don't know how to make sense to any of this.

It's all really, really dumb. And also, like, her response to this was basically, remember Mary and Barry got caught with the prostitute, turned informing on him and set him up, he got caught with a crack and he was like, the bitch set me up. Pelosi did the bitch set me up routine. She called the set up, which it absolutely was.

The owner of the salons apparently are a right-wheeler who turned the video over to Fox. But also, she said she's been going to the salon for years and years and years. So what does it tell you that the salon, who she frequents, pretty much hates her? Right. Well, no, yeah. So I was about to bring up the setup thing. And I was also going to say, like, based on what I understand about how it played out, like, it seems like a setup to me. But it still is like you can't, A, you can't let that have.

happen in my opinion and also be like even if it does play out like that like just again it's it doesn't have to be that big of a thing like I just feel like there's better ways to handle it but as I under is tell me if I've got any of this wrong as I understand what happened according to according to Pelosi is that she's frequented the salon for years she it during the pandemic has had people come to her house and and do her hair which is like totally legal and above board as long as you got a mask on and all this other shit. And then she caught once they opened, once they were about to open back up and she called to have somebody come to her house and the lady who turns out it's a huge Trump supporter

and hates Pelosi and everything basically told her, no, it's okay. It's okay for you to come in and we can do it inside. It's okay to have one person in there so it'll be fine. And so Pelosi was like, okay, cool, let's do it. And then that's what, and then immediately, then the salon owner immediately released the footage and just threw her under the bus and all this. But like, again, I'm not saying that you can't, you're the speaker of the house. If it's in, in your home state, you know, and the salon owner tells you, it's like, no, it's fine. It's totally cool.

Like, you can't just roll with that. But like, it was a setup. We're already falling into the, like, the whole point of it, like, as they do this is a dumbass. The day is the whole story is a dumbass. And we're falling into the trap and talking about like it's a real news story. No, you're right. It's just like 100% right. It doesn't.

It's a, people break rules, including elected officials. If Ralph Nader got caught not wearing a seatbelt, it doesn't mean the seatbelt laws are stupid. And you should, you should wear your mask. You should avoid going indoor spaces like salons. I don't care what Nancy Pelosi did, wear a mask and do better than she did that day, that moment. So moving on a little bit to some of the other dumb shit we've got lined up to talk about. Senator Ted Cruz is now retweeting Q propaganda, which is like, that's a hot thing to do on the right in this country. He might not even realize. So real quick, what he, what he's-

I'm sure he probably doesn't realize it's Q propaganda, but go ahead. Well, I mean, he's a, he, first of all, Ted Cruz is probably the biggest asshole in American politics. Like, he's one of the worst actors because he is smart enough to know that everything he's, saying is bullshit. But he's one of those people who like would be a climber no matter where he was born. If he was born in, uh, in the Bay Area instead of growing up in Texas, he'd be a huge centrist lib, try trying to remember speaker of the house in Nancy Pelosi's district. If he was born in 1997, uh, in 1975, uh, USSR, he'd be a communist party apparatchik. He just, he is a climber and a freaking nerd and dingus in a debate club moron. So he would be, he would be this guy in whatever society

he was in. He always runs against California. Every speech the guy gives. Right. Well, we should, we should like specify exactly what happened with him or whatever. The state of California who's yes, like one of the boogeyman of the American right

passed a new law that has to do with sex crimes. And why don't you explain it? Mark, what the law actually says. So there's been a giant gap that's kind of of unfair to gay people where it's like if you have sex with someone underage, vaginally it's less of a charge than if you do anal or oral, right? So we're not talking about like 50-year-old sleeping or 12-year-olds.

We're talking about 18-year-olds sleeping with 16-year-olds, which the way that law is enforced, it just depends on how mad the parents get because 18-year-old and 18-year-old and 16-year-olds. We all went to high school. We know that happens. Right. So anyway, they just passed a law doing that, which they're the right and the anti-California people and Q people took to be California just legalized men having sex with children. Right. Because the law, because the law just equalized the penalties for if you're having sex with someone underage who's the same sex as you versus if it's, you know, the opposite sex. And like you were saying, it's like it, it, that doesn't automatically mean.

50 year olds and 12 year olds or whatever. And it was just like a disparity in the way gay crimes were treated versus straight straight crimes. And I don't think it to. I don't think it had anything. I don't think it affected like old people have sex with children at all. I think it just because like states usually step these out in grades. Like it's like it's different penalty of having sex with somebody a little more than two years younger than you than you than areas for having sex with my 20 years.

All of them do that do that for, I think, fairly obvious reason. But. So I don't think it affected. actual pedophilia at all or anything like it didn't didn't do anything with those situations it's basically just a uh that statutory rate between like college freshman and college juniors um and so there so there uh a video from a twitter account called the right scoop says california just passed a bill reducing penalties for gay adults who have sex with quote willing same-sex minors ted cruz retweeted that and said priorities today's california's

California Democrats believe, believe we need more adults having sex with children. And when they do, they shouldn't register as sex offenders. This is extreme and very harmful to kids. Yeah. I mean, it's bizarre. I mean, like, first of all, they did the actual, the old way of thinking is very weird to me. The idea that oral sex should have a higher penalty than vaginal sex is a completely a different understanding of sex than every Catholic school row has.

It's pretty bizarre to begin with. But like as a cruise is always ranting about California. They're always like we're always latte sipping, soyboys or whatever, which is, you do nothing but yoga 24-7, which is hilarious. They lived in Texas for 11 years. People there do yoga. People there drink Starbucks. There's got to be a dozen Starbucks at truck stops between Austin and Dallas on 935 where you can watch construction workers in Timberlands and steel-toe work boots. get lattes because they're only $4 and they're delicious and they give you a caffeine boost.

It's not something just for the upper crust. It's ridiculous and it seems like it's stuck 20 years ago. But he's a, by the way, the dude went to Frickin' Harvard and he's rich. So he can fuck off. Right. But yeah, but yeah, California is very much, you know, it's Gamora. Like, they point to California all the time as this, like, you know, hedonistic utopia. We're just, everybody's just out here butt fucking and stuff.

which by the way, like rednecks don't butt fuck. Ever seen deliverance, you know? But, but yeah, California definitely, like I said, it's a boogeyman for them in a lot of ways. And, like, I know, we were talking about this earlier before we got on here. Like, if you, and I'll be honest, I didn't, I mean, I never really thought about it that way,

but I didn't realize this until I drove from San Francisco to Los Angeles once. But, like, California, geographically speaking, is a massive state. and there's the two primary population centers, the Bay Area and Los Angeles and San Diego, Southern California. And yeah, those are generally speaking liberal bastions, although you've got Orange County and places like that. But the whole rest of the state of California, though, is fucking rural. It's like farmland. You'll see a lot of pickup trucks with Trump bumper stickers and Trump signs and stuff like that.

Like, you know, it's not California as a whole is not the way that most people picture the state at large in my opinion. No, if y'all never been here, California is a farm state with two big cities. It's like the reason produce is so cheap here. And like people think everyone's like a skinny here because of Hollywood and some sort of like exercise fanatics. That's somewhat true. But also produce is super, super cheap because people come in from farm. Like farmers markets are farmers come into town to sell their shit, right? You drive an hour outside, 45 minutes outside of L.A.

And you're in the country. I mean, I'm like, you stop at a bar. They're playing country music. And you go to a vineyard for a wine tasting, which is a way to get drunk in the afternoon for fairly cheap. They're playing country music because a vineyard is a farm that grows grapes for you to get drunk, right? So it's utterly bizarre. These people that drive pickup trucks, get up, hey, everything we're familiar with. Well, also earlier this year when shortly after the pandemic first kicked off, there were two separate pictures that went viral at the time.

And one of them didn't have anything to do with the pandemic. It was somebody posted on Facebook saying that they called to have some work done on their house. And when the guy showed up, he was wearing a white power shirt and had a picture of this mongoloid fucking mouth breathing dip shit with a white power t-shirt on when he showed up to like, you know, work on. these people's satellite dish or whatever he was doing. And then another picture that went viral at about the same time, and this one was more widespread, was it was right when all the mask laws came into effect. And it was a guy in a grocery store who had been told he had to wear a mask.

And so the mask he opted to wear was a Ku Klux Klan hood. It was a full hood. He's just like fucking cut off t-shirt and shorts or whatever, otherwise with just a clan hood on his head. because he had to wear a mask. And both of those two pictures were in the state of California. One of them was in the northern part of California, but away from the city of San Francisco,

and the Klan Hood guy was in Southern California, inland, you know, Palmdale or east of there somewhere over in that direction. But, like, yeah, it's just, it's not what people think it is, the state at large. you know but I mean like we're not some like like weird super progressive island separate from the rest of America I mean like even when we talk about like LA and San Francisco being liberal like like where they're cosmopolitanly liberal they're they're fine with whatever choices you want to make in your bedroom and you know they're fine with brown people as long they don't live in their neighborhoods but like it's not like I mean the the LA protests are so bad because people hate the city council and the mayor and the police department because they're functionally right wing they the city council. council's run by by developers one of the reasons we have so horrible home problems because housing's so expensive because they keep driving up the price and we'll do fair housing and all that stuff so it's not we're not we're not some we're

far far from it well it's also funny because like with COVID and everything I had like a buddy mine that I grew up with back in Salina Tennessee who's a great dude and also a pretty progressive guy and everything he texted me last night, ask him if we were doing okay because he was listening to Joe Rogan's podcast and there was some comics on there talking about how things were getting really rough in Burbank, which is where I live. And like, I don't know specifically what they're referring to, but I just couldn't help but scoff at that because I was like, dude, Burbank is just as Norman Rockwelly as it's

ever been from my white trash perspective like compared to where I grew up and everything moving out here like it's a it's pleasantville you know like I can't imagine what they're talking about and it's funny because I talked to my buddies back home about like the current situation and like two of my good friends were back home have gotten accosted at the gas station because they had a mask on you know and and people like started talking shit to them tried to like start a fight or whatever because they wore a mask to the gas station and a couple of them had told me that and it's funny that like

I guess we just live in a time like specifically right now a time where everyone knows that everything is so terrible that like it's like a grass is always greener type of thing or something I guess I don't know but like the idea that

apparently some people that have been in this area for a really long time or like feeling like things are getting crazy and out of hand and they got to get the fuck out of here right now is just insane to me as someone who hasn't been here that long and hear stories from you know my hometown and whatnot i mean i think a couple things are happening i mean like they we like everything is surveilled now everything's filmed and everyone that can get their get their story out there so we have a shit ton of anecdotes but no one pays

attention to actual data right like when the um when the george poit protest first started there was a TV news story went viral, there was like a mile from my apartment. And what did happen was when I went back to dissect. So an Instagram

influencer tried to start a Black Lives Matter protest in Van Nuys, which is a suburb in the valley. Black Lives Matter people who actually run or organize stuff are like, no,

that's not with us. We don't know anything about it. Nobody go. So the Instagram influencer was like, okay, I guess the protest stopped. But by that point, a few people who wanted to do some looting had already

like cops were already on high alert right and so a newspaper a tv news truck happened to be there when a guy was trying to apparently steal some stuff from a liquor store and the store owner was out front with a with holding the gun but like like a like a like a long gun but down by its side right and not near the trigger just basically telling him to go away and it was like a mildly heated argument but then the guy left newspaper reporter was narrating this like it was the apocalypse one guy trying to grab some booze at a one store right cops roll up maybe the situation worse. They tackle the guy who's the store owner

while the other person runs away. But they were covering this. And, you know, this is half a mile from my house. What happened in Van Nuys is they smashed up one weed dispensary, one Verizon store, and that was it. But the coverage of it made it look like it was the 92 riots in L.A. And it was just, that story went mega viral. And I tried to tell people like, nothing happened.

It was, I mean, those stores, it sucks for the store owners. It shouldn't happen. There's people should get arrested if you find them. But also, like, it wasn't some big world-ending store. LA's not dangerous, it's fine. Well, and also, I mean, you know, to that point, I should also say, my buddy who I was talking to last night, I said all the shit, I just said to you a minute ago, I said that to him too, and he was saying, and he's not a bullshitter, he was like, you know, honestly, I feel

like it's mostly fine here. He was like, you know, no one has tried to fight me for wearing a mask, and I wear a mask everywhere I go, you know, so it's like, like you said, it's all, you know, a lot of that shit is just anecdotal or whatever, and people, you know, people, you know, create their own narratives and whatnot. It just is what it is. And like I said, just everything is mostly kind of shitty right now in this country for everybody for a multitude of reasons. Every public opinion survey shows that like over 80% of people are wearing masks regularly.

I don't know what, I don't know what regularly means, but it means they're not being assholes or obstinate about it. And like they, someone made this point of the day, but they all the tracking data they from cell phones like the coverage of those open up pro to the reopen protests and then it looked like it was like half of america right right but all the tracking data shows that like 98% of people were going out way less so who are they could be right that's just irresponsible to act like it's like some big thing is it makes good be roll video but that's that's just where we're at everybody like my thing is like when you see something happening be like is this actually a thing or is it just one

guy who got film you know right well it's also like i mean you just maybe sort of think about this. It's kind of like confirmation bias too a little bit because of like you said the people that are more likely to just spend more time out and about because everybody's

got to get out and do things you've got to do but like me personally I generally don't I don't go anywhere unless it's something that I need to do or need to take care of and the people that don't do that that are just you know running all over the place doing

wherever they want are probably the people that are more likely to not wear a mask where like people like you know my me ma back home she's 81 years old she literally hasn't been out of her house since this all started you know what i mean i feel like a lot of people who a lot of people who definitely would be wearing a mask if they were out in public are just not out in public you know what i'm saying so like that also has to skew the numbers a little bit if you go out somewhere and you who, how many people are wearing a mask or are not. But moving on to the next dumb thing of the day. Joe Biden put his foot in his mouth again,

despite having a mask on doing that. Joe Biden went to Kenosha, you know, because of all the shit going on in Kenosha. And while he was there, giving his remarks, I guess he was running a little long or the program overall was running a little long or something. And so as he's getting near the end of it, he said basically that he could speak at length about his plan to increase taxes on the wealthy. But if he did, quote, he'll shoot me. So I probably shouldn't do that. And now, like, and so this, like, and this is what, we talked about this before with Biden's gas on the show.

Like, you know, I wish he'd cut down on him and everything. But, like, this is so clearly a, you know, a situation where he's, he just didn't think about the shit that he was, like, he wasn't obviously trying to say anything malicious or fucked up or disrespectful. It just came out of his mouth without him realizing it. which is what happens with him so, so often. But yeah, he's using the colloquialism, you know, I was like, oh, no, I'd love to talk for hours, but I got to get out of there. They'll shoot me, you know, whatever.

But given where he was at in the context, like, you got to cut back on that shit, man. You can't keep doing shit like that. Yeah, I mean, I generally hate Gaff controversies because most of the time you can tell what the person meant to say, it's fine. He didn't mean it. He was right there.

He's trying to be respectful, having his heart in the right place. And yeah, I mean, so just like this mostly put this in here so you guys know what the rights can be talking about for the next week. Right. That employs his haircut. Yes. And then here's another one. This one's from Bill Barr, and I feel like you just said, it's like, oh, what did the person mean to say or what was like really going on behind the actual words that came out of their mouth? And, you know, obviously, I'm very biased.

but I feel like this one's a little bit different because Bill Barr was on CNN. He was talking about voter fraud and the situation with the mail and all of that. And it turns out the Attorney General in the United States apparently doesn't know a whole hell of a lot about it. So here's his comments. Or here's how it transpired. if you tried to vote a second time, you would be caught if you voted in person. That would be illegal if they did that. If somebody mailed in a ballot and then actually showed up to vote in person.

Attempting to commit crimes is legal now if you don't actually... You can't vote twice. Well, I don't know what the law in the particular state says, and when that vote becomes final. Is there any state that says you can vote twice? Well, there's some, you know, maybe that you can change your vote up to a particular time. I don't know what the law is. I'm not going to offer. He was saying test the system.

You know, if you know what he's saying, why you don't know. asking me what he's saying he doesn't believe in the mail in voting and you're you're the attorney general of the united states yeah well trump yeah yeah yeah the whole point is trump trump is he's done a huge flip-flop he's now urging people to go vote by mail he did a huge twitter thread telling people how to his followers how to vote by mail this morning what what trump did was try to point out he tried to he tried to tell his followers to go prove how much fraud there is in the system which there isn't by by voting twice or three or four times so So, yeah, much people are going to end up in jail for that because that's like a five-year prison sentence for you and attempting it.

Yeah. Yeah, I just don't, you know, I feel like it's not at all out of bounds to expect that the attorney general, given how big of a talking point it has been recently, would have a firm grasp of the laws where that type of thing is concerned. You know, he's like, just, I don't, you know, I don't know what any particular state says. It's like, no, that would be illegal. Sure. Do you say so. I mean, there's like examples of this, but they really do get out of their own supply. They've been, they've been saying this bullshit to themselves for so long, they believe it.

They just, like, voter fraud would, if it was really easy to get away with, would be the dumbest crime to commit. I'm risking huge prison time to get one extra vote for a presidential candidate. Right. So it doesn't benefit me personally in any way. I'm trying to get another person in job. I'm risking going five, 10, 15 years, 20 years in prison for an act that won't even have any material effect on the election because it's one vote. You know, so I have to vote 10,000 times and have to do it in a specific state for it to have any sort of effect on anything. Yeah, no, it's, it's ridiculous.

In-person voter fraud, if you're considering doing it, don't. It doesn't do any things. Right. If you want to swing in election, you've got to hack a machine. baby that's what you gotta do so yeah so all right moving on the next thing which is to me I mean it's also ridiculous but a little more serious something that's like bothered me for a while we've talked about it a little bit on previous episodes but is that the in my opinion the notion that Donald Trump hates the troops he doesn't support the troops he hates the troops

I don't know you know hates maybe a strong word but he clearly doesn't have much respect for him A story came out in the Atlantic that kind of detailed a lot of this. Because Trump apparently had said, among many, many other things, that they were having a military parade, and Trump asked his staff not to include any wounded veterans on the grounds that spectators would feel uncomfortable in the presence of amputees. Quote, nobody wants to see that.

He said, and it's, of course, he's been, like, he's got, a long history of this shit. It got all the stuff with John McCain, you know, where he's like, I prefer soldiers who don't get captured, you know, and he called him like a loser and shit like that. And obviously, recently, with the bounties, the bounty

situation and him just very much not giving a fuck about it. He went to a, uh, he visited Arlington National Cemetery in 2017 with John Kerry, or sorry, John Kelly, with John Kelly, who was then the Secretary of Homeland

security and would soon be his chief of staff. And John Kelly's son, Robert Kelly, was in the military and was killed in Afghanistan in 2010 at the age of 29. And while Trump was there at Arlington National Cemetery with John Kelly paying respects at his son's grave, he reportedly turned to John Kelly and said, I don't get it. What was in it for them? he just doesn't I don't know how

when they make such a huge thing repeated like they have full ownership of supporting the troops which is obviously bullshit I support the troops a lot of liberals support the troops but it's one of the things that like they own you know and it's like state their claim there

and when they make that just a foundational pillar of their whole ideology I do not understand how this continuously gets ignored by everybody. His habit of clearly not giving a fuck about the troops or the military, just outright disrespecting them. It's insane to me.

Yeah, when I read it, I was wondering if it was going to be a big deal because it popped up in my Twitter feed. And it seems to be like Jake Tapper's talking about it. So it's going to be a news story. but the I read it and I was like is this going to have because it's all anonymous sources right which is easy to dismiss

but the part that John Kelly was offered a chance to comment on the story about his son or his international cemetery and declined to which makes me think I don't know if it means it's real but it means John Kelly

wants you to think it's real because he didn't use the opportunity to tell you it wasn't true so yeah I mean it's just all this stuff sounds true I mean he's very obviously he's the

Trump is the the Iraq was going to generate a person like him at some point purely profit motivated doesn't understand why anybody would do anything if it's not for a dollar right and um yeah I mean the people on the left do support the troops who want to have actual health care and not be sent to die in uh land wars in Asia for no discernible purpose so yeah I don't know

I think it's going to be a big deal so you guys should go read it and decide what you think about it but like it won't I can almost guarantee you it won't be a big deal among his base or whatever because like I said it's not

this article does kind of again it's in the Atlantic and the title of the article is Trump quote Americans who died in war are losers and suckers because he's espoused those opinions on multiple occasions.

But, like, that's not new in and of itself. He's got, you know, a well-documented public history of doing shit like this and making comments like that. And it's never fucking mattered before because, you know, he went in on Colin Kaepernick when he took a knee in the NFL or what the fuck ever. So, like, I've just stopped believing that anything is ever going to actually be a big deal where his side is concerned.

But this to me is one of the more agreed examples of like, how do you, how do y'all reconcile your adoration of this motherfucker given everything else you purport

to be about, you know? Like, it's one of the most, it's one of the most fucking like revered stances that any of them take is the, you know, unassailable nature of the

American military. Yeah, but then he's doing this. When you talk about his support, like, we talk about the people of paying 45 on the side of their truck, I mean, they're not going to hear about this. And they don't hear anything is fake news, but you're talking about, like, I mean, he's on track to lose election in a landslide. So, I mean, like,

this stuff, the people that are voting for him are just doing so because they've been actualized it's for the judges or whatever. But like, like, he's, like, they pulled the, he's underwater among troops too so it's like and they have the same education divide where officers fucking hate him because they have college degrees and uh the rank and file probably get the news off uh you know uh facebook and bench appears podcast podcast they think it's great it's fine yeah no

yeah i mean you're right like i say like oh none of this shit ever matters because it's like i think i feel that way because these a lot of stories like this come out or instances like this that seem like just bombshells to me like like oh well i How can they possibly justify this? But he just keeps chugging along. But, I mean, you're right, like, gradually over time since he got elected. I mean, his approval rating and his support level and all that has absolutely fallen off. So clearly, this shit has had an effect on the more sane members of the American right.

I mean, he's never had a day pulling over 50% for his approval rating. He's the only president in history that we know of. Of course, they didn't have, you know, detailed polling in like 1820 or whatever. But the, I mean, like, also, like, we don't know how much, like, this story just dropped. We don't know what the second and third day developments are going to be. Like, if Jim Mattis, who's, like, worshipped by Marines comes out in two days and verifies that he heard some of this stuff. And also this stuff gets, people have different, like, get their information, different places and debate stuff. We're not going to see the closed military Facebook groups where this can get posted and debated, you know?

So, I don't, I don't know what's going to, I don't know what they're going to be saying on a veteran Facebook, you know, this. Right. Well, I mean, you brought up Mattis, who you're right. My buddy James is a Marine, and he had told me about the way that Mattis is revered in the Marine Corps. They've got a quote from him in this story about Trump. And he was talking about the thing when the protest first started where when Trump used. Yeah, he were an op-ed about it. Trump used people to clear out protesters with tear gas and stuff so he could go take his photo op or whatnot. And the quote from Madison is, when I joined the military some 50 years ago,

I swore an oath to support and defend the Constitution. Never did I dream that troops taking that same oath would be ordered under any circumstance to violate the constitutional rights of their fellow citizens, much less to provide a bizarre photo op for the elected commander in chief with military leadership standing alongside. So, I mean, you know, that seems pretty clear to me, how he feels about it. Yeah, that wasn't his op-ed, right,

that he wrote back when that happened. Yeah, so, I mean, like, if he, but if he confirms elements of this story, it's going to be, like, that'll, that'll take it from, like, the 20-minute, 25-minute block on Jake Tapper's show to the lead story on ABC World News tonight.

All right, let's talk about some COVID stuff for a little bit, because, you know, despite the protestations of many people in this country, it is still very much a thing, the pandemic. Robert Pattinson got it, baby. Yeah, Batman. Batman has got COVID.

Also, the only real-life superhero that I'm aware of, Dwayne the Rock Johnson, him and his entire family have COVID, or have already recovered from COVID. Yeah, he beat it. So that's good. That's good, good news, obviously. It's now that Q people are saying that the Rocks in the Petto ring. So that's a new development.

And I, like, you know, just like three weeks ago or whatever it was, you told me about Q for the first time, QAnon for the first time on our show. And I just can't, I just can't get over it. Like ever since the more, literally every additional thing I find out about it blows my mind even more that it is becoming one of the more mainstream conspiracy. theories that we've ever had in this country because it to me is among the absolute dumbest. It blows my mind. Yeah, I mean, there was a poll of the day that it kind of scared me, but I read the top of the headlines about it. They said 55% of Republicans believe in some element of QAnon, but the question was

praised very, very poorly. And it basically asked them, do you believe that there's a, that there's a, basically the question was phrased so poorly, even though it was ostensibly about Q&N. is since he asked people if they believe that there is a deep state that resists Trump's policies, which I think everyone kind of agreed that. I don't think it's there. I mean, not some, not some secret deep state. I mean, the bureaucratic state resists change. That's why no matter what president we have, we end up in the same wars. I thought you were going to, I thought you were going to say it had something to do with, because I feel like a lot of times with the comments I see

about it have to do with like, they try to frame it like, oh, liberals are just, um, they don't want to admit that there's a problem with like, child sex abuse or child sex trafficking or whatever in this country. It's like, yeah, keep turning a blind eye toward this real problem or something. No one is okay with children being trafficked for sexual purposes. Of course not. But that is a far cry from saying that, you know, Tom Hanks is a pedophilic vampire or whatever. Like, they're not the same thing.

It's fucking, like, yeah, the one thing is an actual problem. The other thing is clearly fucking ridiculous to anyone with an operational brain. Yeah. Just close my mind. If you want to keep up with this stuff, Ben Collins, is a reporter for NBC, covers the online disinformation. He's been real on top of Q for years. He's a good guy to track that.

And they gave him and his reporting partner, special on MSNBC on Sunday to talk about disinformation and how to talk to your relatives who've been radicalized by Facebook the last few months and try to pull them back from the ledge if you're if you're having trouble with your uncle who thinks that Tom Hanks is a drinks baby blood but uh also in COVID news uh the doctor at Penn State this is the middle of Big Ten time of opening up at football set up to 35 percent of Big Ten athletes who had COVID-19 now show signs of inflammation the heart muscle. So that's that's bad. Like they we don't only have a handle with the long-term effects of COVID are going to be like it's fairly apparent

that people are going to be dying even even after vaccines developed people are going to be affected and dying from these side effects of COVID in 2050. People that should have lived to be 75 we're going to have heart attacks at 52 or whatever. So that's not great. It's called a condition called myocarditis and causes heart disease, heart failure, and heart attacks and strokes. Although maybe it's a, this is a form people can recover from. Again, we don't, we don't know. Yeah.

You mentioned, you know, even with a vaccine, as far as the vaccine goes, the CDC has asked governors and health departments to prepare to distribute a vaccine as soon as November, specifically November 1st, two days before the election. A miracle, Trey. Right. the HHS secretary Azar has already come out and said that that November 1st COVID vaccine deadline has, quote, nothing to do with the election. And it's like, look, I mean, look, I want, you know, I want an effective vaccine as quickly as possible. Of course I do.

Everybody does. But like, I don't know, seems a little shady. The timeline they're laying out right now. I mean, they absolutely should be making plans. This isn't nothing to do with the actual efficacy of the virus. of the vaccine. That's just to do with logistics of distribution and making the plan for how to decide who gets first and making those lists and how to triage them and stuff.

Because you want to slow the spread quickly. You want to get it to like frontline healthcare workers, you know, nursing homes. You know, you want to go down the list. Like, I'm the only the last got to get it deservedly. I'm not that important. I don't run into that many people. But like, like, so like these should, people should be making those plans, but you can do it quietly and you don't have to time it for the election.

But this is all like, this is all reality show bullshit. your tease was coming up after the commercial break. You'd be like November 1st, it's going to be the most important rose ceremony yet, Trey. We're going to decide who gets a vaccine. So, yeah. Yeah. So that happened.

All right. I'm going to go to the comments over here and see what people are saying. And while I'm looking up some of these, Mark, we've got a little in-memorium section tonight. Don't you tell us about it? A writer I like a lot named David Graber. I might be saying his last name wrong, because I never heard it out loud.

I just read his stuff. But he died in Paris today. He was one of the organizers occupied Wall Street. He wrote a great book I like called Bullshit Jobs, which basically talks about how the, there were economists who thought that once we roboticized everything, we'd all be down to a 15-hour work week. Instead, our obsession with work has made us invent fake jobs

that don't need doing, and a lot of us work in them. Me personally, I've had quite a few, the jobs that don't need to exist. But we got to keep busy. Anyway, he wrote, one of my first. favorite pieces on Ferguson. If you Google David Graber, G-R-A-A-E-B-E-R, Ferguson and Gawker, you'll find the piece. But it's called Ferguson and the criminalization of American life about how cops spend most like 90% of their day doing administrative stuff, like busting people for

not having the right license plate tags and CPO violations and stuff. And it's a lot of how our city services get funded because no one wants to pay taxes. And that's what Obama's DOJ found in Ferguson when they broke down that apartment. The three quarters of full three quarters of the population of Ferguson had a rest warrants out. And they were all for, almost all for administrative violations like failure to show up for court for traffic tickets they got. And it was all a hustle. And we all live in that state now and the whole economy is based on extracting value from

people by establishing Byzantine rules that are, they're designed to be intentionally impossible to follow. So you can get fined. Like your bank, for example, makes all their money charging overdraft fees and penalties for different things you didn't know you couldn't do. And yeah. anyway it's depressing but it's a good read and he was a good writer and rest in peace david yep rest in peace david um all right so some of the comments over here john susa suzadale

john susadale says i'm a vet my dad my brother are both disabled vets and we're all leftist and i put that up there because like i know i mentioned my buddy james bane earlier uh was in the marine corps he's extremely liberal extremely progressive and i know that uh the military in general has that the same stereotype that the South in general has, which is, you know, that you're automatically a hardcore conservative or whatever. And I know that's got to be frustrating if you are not and you're in the military because, you know,

you're making the same sacrifices either way, obviously, and to get lumped in with the high kneeling crowd and all that has got to be annoying. I mean, I think, I mean, like, you look at like the, I'm Blank on his name right now, Pat, the guy played for the Cardinals, who joined. Pat Tillman. That's such a fucked up story.

Yeah. So he joined after 9-L.A. He quit playing football and joined the Army, ended up in Airborne Rangers, I think. And then he got killed by friendly fire in Afghanistan. The Army lied about it, trying to make a seem like he was a, he died. Anyway, he'd become a hardcore leftist who hit the war by the time he was over. He was against him. Right.

And he's been used by the NFL ever since as this. like, you know, Paragon of selfless military service or whatever. Like, they, you know, the NFL and the U.S. military are like this, obviously. They walk out with their, you know, camo

team gear on every October or whatever it is. It's a huge thing with them because they get a shitload of money from the American military. Yeah. But he was. His idea of service chain, the whole thing was service. It was like he joined because he thought he wanted to service country in the military.

Then when he got in there, he, he worked in. He learned that he thought the war was bullshit. And so it was like writing with Noam Chomsky to try to figure out how to get the word out so he could be upservice to his nation again. And then he died before he could do anything about it. Right. Well, yeah.

But no, the dude is a hero either way, regardless of how it played out. But it's almost certain to me that he would not be happy with the way the NFL has propagandized his story. his family has, I mean, straight up said that, but they don't get any play or any acknowledgement for saying it, but they're not happy with the way that the whole thing has been treated. I mean, I can imagine, like, you come out, after seeing the war close, you could have come out of it. You know, I always thought, like, people think that,

I mean, both sides want the war to be over saying come home, so the whole court right soldier is like, this let me, turn me loose so we can get this over with so I can get out of here, and the left is just like we should just leave. you know so all right and i know the whole comment doesn't show up and also i don't know jessica lends credentials but but we'll read the comment here jessica says chronic my myocarditis has been found even in the asymptomatic when evaluated by imaging with high sensitivity and specificity due to

the inflammatory mediators like a bunch of letters and numbers that i'm too dumb to understand but then she says but no one on the right seems to care and it's this idea like The whole notion of, you know, if you're not old or fat or got asthma or whatever, you know, then fuck it. You'll be fine is also kind of bullshit. Even like people in peak physical condition like college athletes can still see long-term health effects from this thing. And it shouldn't be downplayed by anybody for any reason, but it constantly is. Yeah, I mean, we're going to be like one of the reasons we need Medicare for. all is because we're going to need like there's we have no we have no way for once

COVID is over to schedule everyone to go get their heart check to see who has going to have these complications right there's a yeah it's going to be a national health problem Leslie Ward moody says does anyone trust a vaccine that's been fast-tracked for political purposes now I me personally it depends on the vaccine when it comes out and what everyone is saying about it what I mean by everyone it's like If multiple high profile people in the medical community or whatever are telling me that it's okay, and meanwhile, a bunch of people are refusing to participate in it, then I'm probably going to believe that it's okay.

Like, because I tend to err on the side of believing the actual experts in what they have to say about it. Yeah. I hear you. All these stuff is going to be, I mean, they're going to be developed by, by private labs and they're going to be peer reviewed. And if they're, look, the reason we all know about all these Trump scandals is because they haven't been able to

hide a lot of them, right? Like there's no, I don't think they could hide smuggling it out like, like a, a, a placebo or, or something poisonous to the public where we wouldn't have someone

saying not to take it, you know? So it's not just the FDA and the CDC and FDA people, like they've had people whistleblow and walk up the job and resign. That has already happened. but so. Yes. So Jordan Carroll Cranford says,

talk a bit about the herd immunity bullshit Trump is pushing right now. So Mark, what do you know about that? Well, I mean, that's basically the strategy Sweden tried and then UK tried and then back, walked back after the numbers came out about how many people they'd be killing. But,

I mean, it took 400 years, I think, for the bubonic Europe to give herd immunity from bubonic plague. So it's not like a pleasant process. kill the third of the population of Europe, I think. So, I mean, herd immunity just means compared Koresh Jones hit. No, sorry.

I tried to click on a different one and that got away. Are we ranking on Buzzfeed? That's my fault. I mean, Koresh is the least damaging of those three, I think. The, I mean, herd immunity just means like, like, but enough of, population has immunity to disease to prevent like group spread like when you're vacuum when you vaccinate population not everyone can take the vaccine or the vaccine is not going to be 100% effective so but if 85% of people are immune from it then it yeah then you know it doesn't

spread so like I think I think you need a population have for immunity is like 65% so some of the more lazy fair people are like let's just do that which means you know a lot of people are going to die before you reach that 65% plateau and also apparently a lot of we're going to have damaged disease hearts so yeah um The one I tried to click on, I was going to put this one up here in the meantime since I clicked on the wrong one. Eric and Opie says, veterans against Trump. And like I said, I know y'all are out there. The comment I tried to click on but disappeared into the ether right when I went to click on it said, it said something like libertarians.

What do you think? About them? Yeah, I thought we'd get into that a little bit. We talked at the end of the show a few episodes ago about, Bundy up in Oregon or whatever who came out for came out in support of Black Lives Matter and we were saying like holy shit

a libertarian who's actually apparently consistent with their views and like basically I feel about it when I first went out about libertarianism my introduction to it I was in college and it was like oh they think we should be legal and whatever it's like you know they think you should have actual personal freedom and at first I was like well shit yeah I'm down with that

but then when I found when I found out more about it and the fiscal parts of it and everything. I just think generally speaking, it's completely non-realistic for the most part. But as far as like libertarians as people go, as far as I'm concerned, if they at least seem to be consistent like that, then I mean, you know, whatever, I'm fine with it. But I feel like a lot of them that I encounter online and otherwise seem to be just as full of shit as anybody else is in a lot of ways and that you know so yeah i mean like when their principle they supply like like like like interesting ideas to the public you know uh debate like i read some i read a lot of reasons reasons a libertarian magazine i read a lot of their you know

criminal justice stuff because i agree with a lot of it that makes some really good points it's nice to hear a conservative sort of viewpoint on why like like uh why the the incarceration the carcoral state is bad and why we need to legalize a lot of drugs and why police overstep their, you know, like from a conservative standpoint I just find a lot of interesting. But like you got the only one in Congress is Rand Paul who just today said police should arrest first and figure out charges later. This is all because he got yelled at last week by protesters leaving Trump's RNC speech,

which people yelled at him. He was fine. Nobody touched him. I guess he felt threatened because people were telling him to fuck off and eat shit. But I don't know, man. that yeah um annette fox said the vaccine is being fast tracked but not for politics these scientists know they're doing 10 years of work in 10 months they're working their asses off to save us and i agree with you on that you know they also have a they mean like i'm not i'm not being cynical here but i'm just saying

they have a tremendous profit incentive the first company to get a working vaccine is going to make a trillion dollars and they're going to lose that trillion dollars if they kill a bunch of people with can get sued. So no one has the interest in poisoning everyone. So yeah, let's say here. I'm gonna go inside for you and put this up mark. I don't know. I'm not sure off top of my head what that is. You know what this is? Andrew White, what do you think of the people's party? Are you familiar with that? I am not. Let me look at that. We're going on this question. I'll look at it up to see if I have an opinion on it. A lot of people are talking about herd immunity him ever the general consensus is you know that uh it's dr it's cornell west uh it looks like yeah

okay i like cornell west i don't know the specifics of the people's party but he's always hit for me i remember quick and i never met him personally but i always remember this time i saw him on bill mars show years ago because michael moore was on there and they covered a uh and i like michael more's movies and he's super progressive and everything but you know he's from michigan and they covered this story of some fringe group in the South who was trying to get the South to secede from the Union again. You know, that pops

up every now and then. And Michael Moore went on this whole rant about he was like, you know, let them, fuck them, let them go. He was like, what has the South ever contributed to the United States of America, culturally or otherwise? Let him go.

We'd be better off without him. And Cornell West shut his ass down. And like, he named all these musicians and everything that come from the South. And he was like, that's, you know, that's just disingenuous to act like they've brought nothing to the table culturally. And I've just, ever since that moment, I've been a fan of Cornell West. I've always appreciated him.

Yeah, I mean, I hate all that shit so much. One, it's like, not only our families from there, but like you're, you're, in the name of your progressiveness, you're sentencing a bunch of brown and black and gay people in the South, fucking lives of misery without you guys. and they're back. And also, yeah, I mean, like NASA is in the south. We're not going to go through all of it. We made a whole series about it called South and Off, guys, if you want to go watch it.

That's right. But, you know, it's a, this is a dumb argument. And speaking of succession, what we were talking about California earlier, sometimes you'll see those movements to break California up into three states, and they always phrase it as the way to get California six senators. But the reason those are supported by Russia and conservative movements is because what happens, you get four conservative centers and two liberal centers. senators if you're lucky.

So that's why those movements are bullshit. Yeah. Trey can't read and listen. No, I know. I can't. I was telling Mark about that earlier. Like I... Lots of face touching when speaking. We got nice faces, man. They feel good.

Yeah. Also, I said before, like, you grow a mustache like this and not and not fuck with it. We are both. We're in our houses with just our families where we stay the majority of the time. I promise you, we follow all the rules. as well and responsibly as, you know, a person should. But yeah, I'm going to touch this, okay?

It's just, it is what it is. I don't know what to tell you. But, yeah, it's like Mark said, I can't, I just, I try, I try to keep engaged with Mark and also look through these and pick them out, and it's just, it's hard for me because my brain ain't that good. So can I run through this, just your crew story real quick before we go? Yeah. Yes, yeah, yeah.

So our fun nonsense story of the day, and this has absolutely no meaning behind it. There's no big cultural takeaway. There's just some weird hustler. This one was a college professor in New York, and named Jessica Krug. That wasn't what she was going by, by the way. She had some Latino name she was going by. But she was pretending to be a black Puerto Rican lady, even though she was a white Jewish person from Kansas. And she'd been doing this hustle for a long, long time.

She's a professor of African American studies, I think. She taught African American history. And she had gotten financial support from the Schoenberg Center for Research in black culture and wrote a book about her experiences as a black Puerto Rican lady. Anyway, it turns out, again, she's a straight up white lady. But she got busted forward and she wrote a big medium apology where she said, I absolutely should be canceled. I believe you must name power, so you should absolutely cancel me and I absolutely cancel myself.

Anyway, so literally just five days ago, she wrote an article in essence, Essence magazine, the magazine for black women about being a black Puerto Rican lady in 2020 America. And I want Trump to, sorry, I want Trey to play this clip of her talking so you can wonder how she got away of this for decades. Yeah. Yeah, I got it. I got it skewed up here. Here we go. This is, this is

the lady that Mark is talking about. I'm so, sold my fucking neighborhood to developers and gentrifies. I got a couple of things to say. I went, come on and tell me my time stops. Fuck out of here. It's been seven hours. Not only did I have to listen

to these cops and not just the but to be honest with y'all city council members, you pose in like you're opposing them for your sound guys for your social media. Just to be honest with y'all, I'm just being honest with y'all. Guys, that's what she does. If somebody tells you can't achieve something in America, you tell them no. You can do whatever you put your mind to. You can grow up white in Kansas and become a black Puerto Rican teacher of African-American studies.

God bless America. That's right, the American dream. All right. Thank you all very much. This has been another edition of evening skews. We'll see you next Tuesday. Love you, bye. Bye, go.

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