wellRED podcast - Is He Dead?

Episode Date: September 3, 2025

This week Drew is still dead so Trae and Corey talk Trump’s absence, The Kennedy Family, terrible politicians, striving for success in this dumb industry, Panama City Beach, and more!  Drew... is at The Comedy Catch in Chattanooga, Tn this weekend! Go to TheComedyCatch.com for tickets!  TraeCrowder.com coreyRyanForrester.com

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Starting point is 00:03:09 They're the. Hey everybody this weekend our boy Drew is going to be in Chattanooga, Tennessee at the comedy catch September 5th through the 6th. And then the next day I'm going to be there for the 40 year anniversary, which is going to be a lot of fun. So go see Drew. That's the most important. Go see Drew. September 5th and 6th this weekend at the Comedy Catch.
Starting point is 00:03:30 But also, if you want to stick around, hey, the Comedy Catch still standing. After 40 years, me and a bunch of people, going to be like a red carpet event. Great weekend in Chattanooga. See y'all there. Love you. They're the... They're the... They're the...
Starting point is 00:03:46 ...way too much, but don't give a fun mix. That makes some people upset. said they got three big old dicks that you can sun. Well, here we are. What's up? Well, Red Nation, it's time for another Drew free episode. I fear at this point, soon people are going to start thinking Drew really might be dead. It's kind of a Donald Trump situation with Drew, which is what we're doing. We're taking the Trump approach. It's like, okay, they say he's fine, but where has he been?
Starting point is 00:04:22 No one's seen him for days. I mean, if you're only exposure is this podcast, at least. But much like Trump, Drew, is powered by. and thus shall live forever. So he's fine. No, he just had another thing come up. Apparently his,
Starting point is 00:04:39 his beloved canine family member is sick. I've had that dog for a long time, pretty much since I've known Drew. So he had to take the dog to the vet unexpectedly. He will join us if he gets back in time, but that may or may not happen. I assume you saw Trump just showed up again, just literally right before he started.
Starting point is 00:04:59 I knew that he, he was supposed to have a presser at two, like they announced yesterday, but, you know, I was like, well, I'll just hear about it from Trey, I guess.
Starting point is 00:05:10 So now I am. Yeah, it ended up happening at like 250 or whatever. So during that first 50 minute, you know, rampant speculation, which has been the order of the day for a week now. But then the press conference started and they just announced they're moving the,
Starting point is 00:05:24 the big announcement was they're moving the space force strategic command from Colorado. to Alabama where freedom still exist. Yeah, but people are, you know, people are going to be like also whatever. How do we know this is live? Is this pre-recorded? You know, it's funny how I'm like, now you've got Trump haters and stuff getting real into conspiracy theories and everything. Everybody's real susceptible to conspiracy theories if they need something to.
Starting point is 00:05:55 From it. They want it. Yeah, right, exactly. Because all conspiracy theory is, is like, it's confirmation bias. I presume because I've been thinking about that this week. Like, you know, obviously it's been like Twitter has been entertaining with all like the is Trump dead memes or whatever. But like I didn't put a lot of stock into it mainly because I was like, okay, you know, this was happening during the last administration and I thought it was ridiculous. So I can't now be like, I can't jump in it now when I was going when I was calling it ridiculous the time before.
Starting point is 00:06:30 you know what I mean. Don't get me wrong. With Trump, it was a little different because, like, this is the longest time in this man's entire life he has gone without publicly speaking or being on camera. And he's fucking 80 years old. So, like, dude, he is, one day this will be true. And it won't be too long. But, like, I was like, you know, I'm just going to leave the speculation to everybody else and just enjoy the memes.
Starting point is 00:06:58 because like, no, I don't, you know, but yeah, part of me, too, was like, I saw that picture yesterday. I was like, is that a mask? Is he a clone? And I'm like, what are you doing, dude? What are you fucking doing? You know what I mean? Yeah. Well, it's funny, like you said, like, oh, when that was all happening during the Biden administration, I was like, ah, this is dumb. So I'm not going to do it now. But it's like the same is also true in reverse, you know, like. Yeah, for them. Right, for them. They spent the whole time talking about how, you know, something was, Biden was clearly essentially a barely, mobile living corpse who had no place being the president and that the administration was trying to cover all that up
Starting point is 00:07:34 or whatever his ineptitude and shit and uh you know now they got a similar but with Trump and this is always true just pointing out at the time too with Trump it's harder though because it's like he's always been an idiot lunatic you know right so it's like harder
Starting point is 00:07:51 to tell when that type of person is deteriorating or whatever I mean my personal theory is that I feel like he probably just some regular, some regular old man papaw shit probably happened to him. Like he took a fall or something, something like that. Or they had some kind of papal procedure lined up that they didn't want people to know about. That something that just took him out of commission for a couple days.
Starting point is 00:08:15 And that would project weakness. So they didn't tell anybody. They just, you know, they just tried to pretend like nothing was going on. But it was never really like that big of a deal probably. And like they often do, they kind of stricanded it into being a much, bigger deal with the way that they handled it all is what I feel like probably happened. This is also why we shouldn't have pap halls leading the country. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:08:39 No, exactly. Right. Because you're right. It probably is a routine papal thing. But like there's a lot of routine papal things. And so you shouldn't be a papal in a job where like you kind of have to be on call 24 hours. That's not a papal job, you know.
Starting point is 00:08:54 Right. But like there is like there's so much what aboutism going on. And yeah, it does happen. on both sides. And like, it frustrates me when I see it because like, like, one of the examples, like recently has been like, you know, everybody on the left, me included, is like very upset about the Gestapo-like nature of ICE and how they're, you know, grabbing people who aren't even illegal immigrants and trying to kick them out of this country. And what I've seen on the other side is people going, you know, Obama, Obama actually deported more people. And I didn't see y'all
Starting point is 00:09:28 crying then and I'm like, okay, well, on the other side, though, why didn't that hit for y'all? Right, right. You know what I mean? Like, I hear you. You're right. You're, you're totally right. Like, liberals were silent when Obama was drone striking and doing all this. You're right. But also, why do you call him the open border communist czar if he was doing what your president is doing? Like, why didn't that hit for you? You know what I mean? Yep. Yep. Let me ask you this. Do you think it would or would not hit if Trump just like fell over dead right now. Dude, it's very Mariucci. And for those of you that are just now maybe tune into this podcast,
Starting point is 00:10:09 Mariucci is a term where something both hits and doesn't hit. At the same time, and the origins are from a picture of Steve Mariucci because Steve Mariucci hits, but a picture of him doesn't hit. All right, you're called up now. Look, the only way, in my opinion, that it would be good for him to die while
Starting point is 00:10:29 office is if it was just so concretely it was natural causes. He fell over dead and it was a heart and it had it can't but but no matter what it is that can't happen. Right. Because what you're saying is people will lose their minds even more and descend into madness and stuff. Dude, if he, yeah right.
Starting point is 00:10:50 I mean I agree I agree completely and like you said. And then JD Vance is president. Right. Exactly. Those are the two main things that I think too. dies right now, JD gets, what, two and a half years without question. Like, without question, no election, no primary or whatever. So realistically, the best thing. But then it's like if Trump dies towards the end, it's like almost like that's going to give whoever's running for Republican like a boost of 10 point.
Starting point is 00:11:15 Like it's, no, it's not good. Like, it would have been great if he died before he got elected this last time. But now, honestly, it's like he kind of needs to live because it sucks that he's in power. and the only way clearly to get him out of power is for him to die, but I really don't think people are grasping the ramifications of that. Like, that's not, it's not going to be good. No, I agree with you completely. And I had the same thought.
Starting point is 00:11:38 It's like the only way it would work is if, like you said, it was just in front of everybody fucking heart attack. But it's like, again, there's literally, you literally cannot conceive. Right. You literally cannot conceive of a scenario where they would believe it no matter what happens. Like, you know. What if him and Biden die on the same day? that would make them even crazier, I feel like.
Starting point is 00:12:00 I don't know what they would come up with, but just the sheer wildness of that would just propel them to even greater heights of lunacy, I think. Trump, Biden, Obama, and Hillary all have to die on the same day. And at least then it's like an even scoreboard. You know what I mean? And I'm fine with that. I'll sacrifice them.
Starting point is 00:12:20 I'm going to go fuck about them. You know what I mean? Well, bro, I got to be honest, if that happened, I'm going to start believing in some sort of, like, like Illuminati New World I mean. Me too. But it's like, but yeah, I don't know. But if everybody believed it, it would be better than if only 50% of the people believed it.
Starting point is 00:12:36 I think. Somehow, you know, like, it's not good though. It's not fucking good. Like the only, the only situation that is good is that somehow he's old and papal for the rest of his administration and doesn't get a lot of stuff done and goes completely lame duck. and then someone beats J.D. Vance. And even then, it's still not going to be good.
Starting point is 00:13:02 Like, like, this, this, Trump is, he's a symptom of a thing that was already brewing, right? And then he has taken that and turned it into an even bigger disease that it lasts longer than him. Like, he's set up something that lasts longer than him. Like, him dying is not going to end this MAGA movement. I mean, it's set, like, you've got J.D. Vance there. You've got the Stephen Millers of the world. You've got the, like, dude. That's all true, but I do kind of subscribe to the whole idea that, like, that those people, them being the way they are, and by them, I mean, the base.
Starting point is 00:13:40 Like, they need a, like, a real strong, like, figurehead cult leader, dude, mascot at the top. And I kind of believe, I kind of bind to that whole, like, as far as Trump goes, you know, you can't coach that thing. I mean, like, he's one of one when it comes to these people and appealing to them. And I just, I don't know that, you know, at least right now, like, yeah, they will all still be around and all that shit that led to it and the things that they believe in the, you know, the people in the shadows pulling the strings and stuff will all still be there too. But that, like, that deity at the top of it or whatever, I don't know that there's anybody ready to step into Trump's shoes right now. And maybe they'll just tear themselves apart. Because that's the other thing, too, is they all, a lot of them all also kind of hate each other. And they spend a lot of time like fighting.
Starting point is 00:14:33 That's true. He is the glue. Yeah, right. Yeah. No, yeah. Like when they all in fight, Trump can bring them all back together and go, hey, guys, focus on the mission. And without him, yeah, you're right. And like, there's something to be said about, like, you know, when they, those people you'd think,
Starting point is 00:14:53 like when they're not in power, they're so insufferable and evil trying to claw back to power that you'd think they'd be like at least a little bit better once they'd got in power, but they seem to just always be fervent and upset or whatever. So like, man, I don't, I don't, like, I really, not that I've ever had any type of answers. I've at least always been able to make semi-educated speculations based on my, you know, communications with people from my area and all over the country. but like, dude, to borrow a phrase that you say a lot, I'd sooner lasso the goddamn moon than try to assume what could happen if he died,
Starting point is 00:15:32 if he doesn't die. Like, we seem to be in a real tailspin right now that nobody, I mean, nobody, even the best political minds in the country can't figure out what to fucking do. Like, you'd think at least someone in the Democrats through the past 8, 10 years, could have figured out some type of stuff. strategy, but they just seem to be. Now, like, the most successful thing they've done is Gavin Newsom just parodying Trump. And, like, that's not going to last.
Starting point is 00:16:00 Like, that's a cool flash in the pan, little social media moment. But, like, another thing people don't understand. And this is why they didn't see it coming when Trump won the first time is that, for the most part, social media is not real life. It's not. Like, no one could understand how Trump could win because they were on their own little social media bubble in their own little fucking echo chamber. but out in the real world, Trump was making waves.
Starting point is 00:16:23 So, like, all the people who were getting so, oh, look, Newsom's putting up big numbers. This is great. It's like, my mom don't even know that's happening. My mom don't even know that's happening. You know what I mean? And that's the base. Like, yes, but that's 100% true because of the bubbles everybody lives in and stuff. But on the other hand, like social media and the Internet is a big part of how they've come together the way they have.
Starting point is 00:16:46 And that Trump has even has, but it's like you said, it's like two different. just everybody has their own bubble and they don't really get out of it. And that's been a problem since, you know, at least right up around the 2016 election and certainly ever since. But, yeah, I don't know. I'm watching a lot of, not that I've ever stopped, but I'm watching a lot of JFK stuff and reading a lot of JFK stuff. And right now I'm focusing a lot on John John, like John F. Kennedy Jr., you know. and because he, you know, obviously... He ever come back from the dead and saved the world from pedophile vampires or whatever
Starting point is 00:17:25 was supposed to happen? It's so crazy to me, though, to think the more I read and watch about him, because, like, you know, he was... People that weren't alive during the time don't realize, like, how big of a deal he was, like, how, like, he was, he was the George Clooney of not Hollywood. Like, he was just the it guy. And for the most part, he did seem to use his influence for the greater good. Like he genuinely seemed like a pretty good guy. I know he had his,
Starting point is 00:17:52 I'm sure he had his skeletons or whatever, but he seemed like a guy who was like, you know, he grew up knowing the government probably killed his daddy and his uncle. And then he had his mom die. And he knowingly was a very privileged person, didn't shirk away from that, understood the nepotism with his name,
Starting point is 00:18:11 but tried to do good things and was very cool and was very suave and was a huge progressive dude. So the notion to me that people think that if he was to somehow come back, he would be this insane right-wing dude. I don't get it. I never got that. The QAnon, like, the bowels of Q&ONN, the craziest reaches of Q&N that they somehow decided that he evolved, first of all,
Starting point is 00:18:36 just that anyone was going to come back from the, I don't remember. Were they literally saying he was literally dead and was going to return from the afterlife or that he had been like pulling up, pulling a Tupac Elvis situation? That's the latter, I think. I think the situation was like... Well, that's at least a little less crazy. I mean, it's still absolutely insane, but it's less crazy than a reanimated corpse or a ghost or whatever. But I never understood either how it was him specifically considering the political leanings of most of those people, as I understand it.
Starting point is 00:19:06 Well, he was friendly with Trump. But like in the, like in the sense that they were both popular figures in New York. like they ran in the same circles. They went to in like, and as ever, as everybody should know, dude, number one,
Starting point is 00:19:25 Trump has been a joke for 40 fucking years. But before he jumped into the political world, he was seen, I mean, he seemed harmless to me. It was just like, oh, yeah,
Starting point is 00:19:34 he's a joke, whatever, but like, you party with him. Who cares? He's got, you know, yada yada.
Starting point is 00:19:38 So like the idea that like, John John Kennedy and Trump in the 90s when they were hanging out at their Coke and Hookers party, were secretly talking about how they needed to infiltrate and, and, and, you know,
Starting point is 00:19:53 drain the swamp is ridiculous. Like, of course they were in the same rooms together. Like him and, like Stern, who was the biggest liberal on earth, him and Trump were buddy, buddy because it was good entertainment.
Starting point is 00:20:03 That was all Trump ever was. He was good entertainment. And it's like I've always said, like, if you can be a certain way and live your life and everybody can just be like, yeah, whatever. But the second,
Starting point is 00:20:13 you're that way and then you go into politics, you're up on a different pedestal and we're allowed to scrutinize you and, you know, whatever. But, dude, the two conspiracies, like, the original one was that, a, John F. Kennedy, Jr. was killed, you know, by the elite or whatever, and that he was taken down because they knew that someone this charismatic and handsome with the name that he had could end up taking over. They're like, the Clintons did it because they knew that Hillary wanted to run and he would take her down.
Starting point is 00:20:42 And then this next conspiracy theory with QAnon hinges on, no, actually. John John faked his own death to prevent them from doing that. And he didn't want to live this crazy life because him and his wife had just gotten married and the media wouldn't leave him alone. So he faked his death and so that they could go live on an island together. But the thing is, his wife didn't die and she's still around. You know what I mean? So that doesn't make any sense. It's all fucking stupid.
Starting point is 00:21:11 But yes, like if that was true, like he was going to be like, all right, now's the time to come back. This is what I'm going to do. Do you think that, though, people, like somebody had to, I'm using this term very loosely, put all that together what you just said, like on the cue boards and stuff. Do you think that that person just like comes up with it, like just like a writer, do it and like, you know, making up a store, like George R. Martin came up with Westeros or whatever. Or do you think that he like, that person, whoever that cue or whoever it is is like, also a lunatic who pours through all this whatever archival footage and books and weird dark web shit and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:21:52 And like they devise a theory that they do believe, but of course have no proof for because it's insane. And then they posit a theory and then everybody goes, that's it. You've cracked it. That's it. And then now they all believe it to be the gospel truth, you know. A mixture of both probably. I mean, because, you know, the whole like they feel. fake their death to get away from media scrutiny is such an easy jump to make, like, with anybody. And there's not one celebrity who died young that this isn't a theory in some corner of the
Starting point is 00:22:26 internet, from Andy Kaufman to John Lennon to fucking, uh, uh, Elvis, Tupac. Elvis, any of them. I mean, Elvis, there's a great movie about it, Bubba Hotep. I don't know if you've seen it, but it's fantastic. Bruce Campbell, right? Bruce Campbell, yeah. You can't die young as a celebrity and them not be like, they must have faked it to get away from all this. So, like, that's an easy jump to make.
Starting point is 00:22:52 And then if you're already in that headspace, the QAnon headspace, it's also easy to point anything back to the Clintons. And, like, you know, I give it up for the Q&O people. The Clintons have made it easy for it to seem like that. Like, and dude, fuck the Clintons. I don't give a fuck about thinking all. I'll die tomorrow. I don't care.
Starting point is 00:23:13 But like, I think the things that they say are like, oh, my God, this is a brilliant theory is just like, bro, any 10-year-old with a laptop could have reached that same conclusion. You just have to look at stuff and then throw logic completely out the window and you're there. Like, you can just say it. You can just say anything. Yeah. How did you, so you're in a whole JFK expanded universe. situation which includes John John, or you've just been on the John John tips lately?
Starting point is 00:23:47 It's the whole the whole universe. And I was just, while on prime, they, you know, they figure your motives out and they start suggesting you stuff. And one such thing was the American Prince, which was a three episode thing that they did on John John. I actually don't even know when they did it. It could be new for all I know. but it was CNN did it.
Starting point is 00:24:12 So, I mean, you know, I don't know whether to trust or not anything, but like I had to, I had to purchase it on prime. And I started watching it just as, you know, I'm not trying to construct any conspiracy theories of my own. I'm just for some reason very enthralled with that family. I think, you know, that's not uncommon. Obviously, a lot of America is. They were, and we've talked about this on putting on airs before.
Starting point is 00:24:35 Like, they're like as close to a royal family as we, really like ever had, you know, going from Joe to, and then John John, the era parent. And it is interesting to see all the tragedy in that family. I mean, you know, Joe Jr.
Starting point is 00:24:53 dies in World War II. John F. Kennedy gets shot. Bobby gets shot. John John's plane goes that like, you know, you start to go, is there a conspiracy, or is it just a classic case of,
Starting point is 00:25:05 yeah, when your daddy's got a lot of mob ties and then tries to exercise, his power, they're going to come after your children. It's pretty easy. It's also like kind of like a classic story. It's like the fall of the house of usher type thing. You know, like a cursed house of influence and wealth and shit like that or whatever.
Starting point is 00:25:27 I mean, I'm not saying there's like ghost running the show there. It's the real life version of that though. Right. And then you add it, you add in the Marilyn Monroe. and Joe DiMaggio stuff. And I mean, it's like the Kennedy is, the Kennedy family is like Americana personified, you know, like it is just like that is who we are as a people is wealth, extravagance, deceit, death, lies, destruction.
Starting point is 00:25:56 And then there's going to be conspiracies around it. And I'm thoroughly obsessed with that. I just hadn't, John John is like somehow the least, the least talked about it. I mean, of course, he didn't actually run for president or anything. he was just a good looking guy who got killed in the 90s. But the thing that interests me most about him is just it's that what if factor. Like what if this, what would our world look like if he doesn't go down in that plane? Like, does he become president?
Starting point is 00:26:23 Like, do we, do we have Obama? Like, does he run in 2004, you know, and beat Brock in the primary? Like, what? Was he secretly Trump's best friend all along? And now he's the leader of MAGA? I don't fucking know, man. Checks out that we got the variant of the multiverse where instead his brainworm-eaten cousin is the one that's still around and kicking in the highest levels of government. And that's how you should know not to trust Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is because the government didn't deem him necessary to kill, right?
Starting point is 00:26:57 He's not someone we should be listed. They never considered him a threat, right? Yeah. What about old Ted? Ted come up much in your research there? I just rewatch Chappaquittic, actually, which is our boy, oh my lord, the actor, hits for us real hard. I haven't seen that. It's a movie or a show? Yeah, Chappaquit, it's a movie. Right, which is about that incident where he, like, killed the lady and left her or, like, wrecked a car with the lady in it and run off and she died. And the thing that they had Jeremy Strong do in secession?
Starting point is 00:27:34 Yes, exactly. Yeah, exactly. Jason Clark. Jason Clark plays Ted Kennedy. He does it, yeah. For some reason, I know he's not Patrick Wilson or Matthew Rees, but those three are in this somehow same orbit to me that I interchange them. I put Jason Clark in the same. I put Jason Clark in the same orbit as Joel Edgerton in my head for some reason.
Starting point is 00:27:57 Is Jason Clark an Aussie? Is he an Aussie? He is an Aussie. Yeah, he is an Aussie. So I think that's part of it for me, but I put those two guys together somehow. Um, so it was, yeah, the, the whole situation took place, um, at a, it was at one of, it was either, I think it was Bobby's campaign they were working on or something. And there was a, uh, they had a, they had a party. It was like an annual party that they had every year for all the, to celebrate all the women that worked on the Kennedy campaigns or something like that. And the woman, Mary Joe, I wish I could remember her name by can't. To celebrate all the women that worked on the Kennedy campaigns. Meanwhile, they keep here like, all the, like, Rosemary moaning from the basement, scratching at the floorboards and shit like that.
Starting point is 00:28:40 Or fucking hitting it with a burn. Shut up down there. Yeah, right. Throwing fish heads into the basement. Fucking it, like, blew her away. Like a crawfish that keeps crawling up to the pot. So, that's fucked up.
Starting point is 00:28:57 It is fucked up. And that's an interesting rabbit hole to go down to the key, which it's not really that deep. They gave her a lobotomy and she was, mentally incapacitated her whole life. Right. Just because she had like opinions and was a woman. Essentially,
Starting point is 00:29:12 yeah, it's really funny because. That's JFK's and Bobby, that's their sister, right? So it was Joe that did that. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:29:21 Okay. Joe did that against his wife's wish. Like he didn't tell her he was going to do that. She was basically like, I would say with all we know now, she was like maybe high function and autistic or something like that. But really was like she was like she was, rambunctious and she would get argumentative and stuff.
Starting point is 00:29:39 And they were like, oh, women weren't allowed to do that back then. Yeah. So they were putting her in a home anyways. And then she had some big episode and the doctor was like, hey, we've got this new procedure. It's called a lobotomy. And it's where we cut her head open and Joe was like, say no more, do it. And they, they, when they went to scrape,
Starting point is 00:30:01 they scrubbed just a little too much. And that'll have. Is there, yeah, right, when you're scraping a brain. When you're poking a brain, you poke. But is there like even, like an acceptable amount of scrubbing to do inside a person's brain pan, you know? Not now. Here, right, I know at the time there. Because I've seen, I think I sent one to you at one point, I've seen like old compilations at medical hospitals and stuff put together way back in the day of like before and after footage of lobotomy patients.
Starting point is 00:30:29 And it's like, at the time, if you took someone that was like profound. profoundly disturbed, right? Like, and they didn't understand it. We still don't really understand a lot of that shit now. Like, hardcore schizophrenic, we understand it way better. But at the time, they had no idea. But someone who was just like, I mean, all fucked up in the head. And you get before footage of them, they look, you know, it's like disturbing.
Starting point is 00:30:53 They look wild and all fucked up. And then you give them a lot of body. And then afterwards they're like still alive, but now they're chill. You know, and by chill, I mean, they're just, you know, like they got a thousand yards there. They're a vegetable. And just droolibing. coming out but it like but in that context it's like well that that might be that might be better than than what they were before you know but like uh but obviously it's still super fucked up i'm just saying
Starting point is 00:31:19 like that i think is how it gained um popularity and then it was applied to cases like hers you know which is obviously insane the whole time it was just like is this person like in any way difficult right? Like, and it's like, well, just, you know, fucking scramble their brain up a little bit. And then we'll just sit them in that chair until they die. And it's like, that's not as difficult, right? You know, people did it. I think it appeals to our selfish nature as people and especially parents of that generation where it was like,
Starting point is 00:31:55 hey, look, they're probably never going to be that much of a functioning member of society anyways. But at least you could get them to stop throwing plates. Right. Ain't that better? Wouldn't that be better? Right. And I mean, you know, but yeah, they scrub up her brain too much. But yeah, the Chappaquitic thing was they, he was, you know, his story was he was just taking her home. She'd been drinking too much and he was taking her home.
Starting point is 00:32:17 The next thing you know, they'd drive off a bridge. He gets out and he can't, he can't save her or whatever. But the problem is, is that he waited like a whole 24 hours to report it, you know, which like automatically implies he took time to. get his story straight or sober up or whatever. Like it don't look good. And I mean, you know, that is 100% the reason he was never. I mean, he stayed in the Senate.
Starting point is 00:32:42 I know that. But like, I know everyone assumed like he would end up running for president too. But like that, you know, I guess that was back in the time. That was right in the middle time. We're like, if that had happened like 10 years before, no one would have ever heard about it. And if it happened 20 years later, he could still win because Trump did, you know. But he was right in that sweet spot of like, we better not, you know.
Starting point is 00:33:06 Yeah. What is he, he's just one of the other siblings. Ted was also their brother. Ted was, or is he like a cousin or something? I think he was a cousin. Man,
Starting point is 00:33:16 I should know this off the top of my head, but no, I think he was a cousin. I don't think he was a brother. So that storyline is a lot of them motherfuckers. Right. You know, Bobby had 10 goddamn kids. I did not know that.
Starting point is 00:33:30 Yeah. I know, I know that a lot of them, A lot of the ones that, I don't know how many of them are still alive, but I know a lot of them are still alive have publicly been like, hey, our brother don't hit talking about RFK Jr. Like, you're not listening to him. He don't hit for us.
Starting point is 00:33:45 And people are like, shut up. We know him better than you do. Right. Yeah. He says things that we like for some reason. But fuck, what was the thing I was just about to ask about? Oh, yeah, he was, he was the youngest, he was the youngest Kennedy. That's what he was.
Starting point is 00:34:02 He was the youngest of nine of Joe and Rose Kennedy. So Kendall in secession, that's just, I always knew it was like inspired by that or whatever, but they pretty much just did that in the show, Chappaquittic. Except for Kendall never says, like, well, no, how does that shake out with Kendall? Like, does he, did they ever, that he was driving? No, I don't think so. I think that, yeah. Well, Ted admitted that he was driving.
Starting point is 00:34:31 Right. But Kendall didn't. Yeah. Kindle just killed the guy and I think they said like he stole his car or something like that. Like Kendall never, Kendall never had to face any consequences except for like internally from all the people like, you know, uh, Chavonne, who was like, I know what happened. And I'll use this against you.
Starting point is 00:34:50 But with Ted, no, he, he had to come out and say he did it. He was just like, but I, but I, you know, I tried to save her. And then I was too shocked. And we didn't, we didn't know what to do, you know. and there was a party, you know. So I don't know. But we're probably better off somehow. But he still got to just be a lifelong Senate motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:35:13 Right. Which I'd say he's a pretty, that's probably a way sweeter gig than actually being the president, you know. Yeah, probably at the end of the day. But I mean, hell, you know, Strom Thurman was in the Senate until he was 100 years old. And he was a mumified segregationist with secret, you know, mixed race made babies and stuff like that that that came out publicly when they were like 75, which was crazy. But yeah, that motherfucker, like ran for president on the platform of like segregation hits. And, you know, I'm going to make sure that it keeps hitting forever.
Starting point is 00:35:53 And, you know, a fair chunk of people are like, Strom's the guy, Strom's the one. And, of course, you know, not enough. He didn't win. But it's just wild that that was a public platform back then. I don't know. It's not that wild. I don't know what I'm talking about. But yeah, it is wild, though, that after having done that in the middle part,
Starting point is 00:36:10 in the civil rights area and stuff, that he was still one of the senators for South Carolina when, like, we were in high school or whatever, especially when you had on top of that. And not only was he that dude with that pass, but he just spent every congressional hearing, Senate hearing just like, you know, you know, senator from South Carolina, you know. And used to, though, we used to save mummified corpses for the Senate and the Congress, you know, but now they're the president, which don't hit. But also what's funny about all that, like the Ted Kennedy, the Strom Thurman thing is like all the people who act like only to like politics just started being the most insane ran by the most corrupt fucking people. It's like, dude, the very second.
Starting point is 00:36:59 Like, if you read anything about the founding fathers, them motherfuckers were at each other's heels doing some fucked up shit. Like, the second anyone gets power. Or you could say the people who are attracted to power are those type of people. It's just that, like, imagine, like, think about Kennedy, man. Like, this, him, when he was banging Marilyn Monroe and all those people, this was at a time when for some reason, the press just would cover that up for them. Like, nowadays, the press would be clamoring to get that story out. But, like, this was a time in politics and in sports and celebrity when the press covered that up. So think about all the fucked up shit we know that these people did.
Starting point is 00:37:39 And then think about all the stuff that the press covered up for them. Like, that's the only difference is that it's like they weren't more respectable back then. It's just that the press was complicit in their insanity. Even the stuff with Trump this past weekend and just people speculating about what's going on. I saw some people on Reddit say, which of course did not fact check. So like, even like Grover Cleveland once, apparently, again, according to Reddit comments, had a like secret medical operation on a boat. And it was on a boat specifically to try to hide it from that time's version of the media.
Starting point is 00:38:13 So like, you know, they were doing shit like this, like even back then. And I guess apparently also it was it Woodrow Wilson maybe had like a mini stroke or something. and then essentially his wife sort of like acted as his like proxy with the rest of the government for like months until he got better. But the public never knew any of that. But back then, like again, with social media, no social media and that version of no TV and all that stuff. Like you, it wasn't a story. It's like the president hasn't been seen and forever. 98% of the country is like, I've never seen the president.
Starting point is 00:38:53 I've never seen anyone outside of my first. family, you know, like fucking read about them in the papers, but that's pretty much it. But yeah, so, FDR couldn't walk. And they hid that. Right. Right. They, I mean, eventually they didn't, but like, they straight up successfully hid the fact that the president was in a goddamn wheelchair, uh, which again, you could never now, you know, that because they're, we have a, but there wasn't, but there wasn't, I really think people don't. It's like we can't, not only remember, but we can't fathom a time that there wasn't a 24 hour news cycle. You know, and like there's a lot of, with this Trump thing, a lot of people on the right have been coming out. Like now that he hasn't been seen, they're talking a lot different about than they did with Joe Biden where they're like, you know, I don't want to see my president every day. I think it's nice to just pop it.
Starting point is 00:39:39 And like, the thing is, I do, I agree with you. It would be nice if there was just like a once a week roundup to get all the important stuff in. That would be great. I would prefer it if my president was too busy working on the free world to be in front of a camera. all the time. But that's not the way it works. Even before, that's another kind of ironic element of this,
Starting point is 00:40:02 is that like, I remember, because I said it, like even, I think it was a lot of people felt this way. After the 2020 election, in the early stage of the Biden administration, before it started being hardcore every time,
Starting point is 00:40:12 it's like, oh, you know, they've got him fucking hooked up to machines and the Oval Office, whatever else. Before all that, it was like, people,
Starting point is 00:40:18 it was, it was the thing people said. They're like, it's refreshing, not having to worry about what dumb fucking thing the president's going to do every day. Like you'll go, you'll go days, you'll go more than week without even thinking about Joe Biden.
Starting point is 00:40:31 And he doesn't come up. And it's like, and that's the way a president should be. Right. And then, but, you know, but then now it's like that argument is being used in a twisted way to defend the fact that Trump
Starting point is 00:40:42 vanished for a brief amount of time. But like you said, with Trump, that's completely totally out of character. That was the whole reason, that was the whole reason anyone ever even said that. Right. That's the whole reason anyone ever even said that about Joe Biden.
Starting point is 00:40:54 when they did is because of the way that Trump has always been. And that's what makes it all weird now, even though he's come out of the shadows. But, yeah, I'm almost at the point. I mean, I'm not really like this, but where I'm like, I don't even give a fuck who the next president is, as long as they're 50. Like, as long as that motherfucker can, you know, run a mile without having to. I know. So you might get your wish soon. I just, fuck, I know, man.
Starting point is 00:41:25 No, that's crazy. One way or another. Thinking about Kennedy, like, I'm, I'm only five years younger than Kennedy was when he got elected. Like, that's nuts. I mean, I know. Yeah, J.D. would be the first millennial president, but also the first, the youngest president ever, if, assuming that if Trump was dead or died soon. I don't know. If Trump, if J.D. just got elected in 2028, would he still become, would he be younger at that point than J.
Starting point is 00:41:52 JFK was when he got elected? If it's, well, JFK was, JFK was 43 when he got elected, I think. I think he would be because I think J.D. is literally my age, I think, which is 39. No, I think he is. Yeah. No, no, he's 41. So if he got elected, if he got elected in 28, he would be 44. So he would not become the youngest president I've ever had, which would, uh, for me.
Starting point is 00:42:17 Well, I don't, I don't want him to get elected at all, but I'm just saying. Either way, but I want him to have no record. Right. Yeah, exactly. I don't want him. Yeah. No records. Absolutely not.
Starting point is 00:42:26 Yeah, so, yeah, I'm, so like Kennedy was 43 when you got elected. Like, it's the age they like people, this is not, doesn't have anything to do with politics, but like, and I know like most of this is like me and you, we mean you talk about this all the time. We just are like sort of in denial about that we're getting old or whatever. But like I'm thinking about like fucking I'm five years younger than Kennedy was when. got elected. I'm two years older than Princess Diana when she died. I'm 10 years older than Heath Ledger's ass ever was. And I still like,
Starting point is 00:43:04 my body hurts and shit. Like that part of me feels old. And I'm sure that everybody listening is going to be like, yeah, we get it. My brain is still like I don't see myself as that. Yeah, I think that's what happens for everybody,
Starting point is 00:43:19 you know, like you just feel, again, like you said, physically, no, You get aches and pains. You feel older physically.
Starting point is 00:43:26 But like internally, you're like, I'm still the same person. I've always been. I'm still young, but, you know, even when you ain't really. Like, I'm more mature. I'm a way more mature person than I was even, hell, even a year ago. Right. Because I have a child and I don't do. But like, but I still have this like, I don't know if it's like a Peter Pan
Starting point is 00:43:45 complex or whatever, but like I still every day go, think about what I want to do when I grow up. You know what I mean? And like I already am. I should be, and I am doing, I am already currently doing the things that I dreamed of doing when I grow up, like when I was five. But like, in my mind, I've still got like 18 more chapters left. And it's like, no, you got two. You got two at best.
Starting point is 00:44:10 Yeah. But I mean, no, I feel you on that. I think something that's highly legitimate. It's like, you know, whatever, now we're going to get into our business. That's what I was about to say. Like I was going to say, this is getting into inside base. football stuff, but like, in like show business, especially like when I first, I broke through at the age of 30 and I was like, oh, I'm golden.
Starting point is 00:44:28 30's fine. 30's good, you know, but I'm 39 now. And I haven't, you know. That still is fine. It is still like fine, but it's like we've talked before by a lot of times people that like hit at like a high level movies and TV and stuff like that. You look back and they've been around doing shit for like a long time, you know. Right.
Starting point is 00:44:46 And I've been on the internet and in comedy clubs for a long time, but not really doing it. It just feels like, you know, you just start to think more and more. It's like, if I was going to fucking. I would have a, not I woulda, but like I'd be closer. Like if I was going to have like an Academy Award winning opus at some point, you'd think I'd be at least building up to that by 39. And I'm not. Like you think that sort of thing.
Starting point is 00:45:09 But then there's stuff like, and she ain't won no awards yet or nothing. But our home girl, Leanne Morgan obviously, like broke through and has, you know, like a big Netflix sitcom and stuff now. And she's 59 years old. And she's been doing it for. forever. She's been in for 30-something years, right? And she's a woman.
Starting point is 00:45:24 Yeah, right. I mean that in a, I mean that. No, I know. The industry is unfair to women. Yeah, right, exactly. But yeah, like, that's how. And she's,
Starting point is 00:45:31 the thing is, like, that you, we're fine. Like, that's how good she is, and that's true. But, like, she's always been that good, though. She has always been that good. And so, like, for so long, she was out there being exactly as hilarious and everything as she is right now.
Starting point is 00:45:45 And just, nobody gave a, nobody made the industry, didn't give a fuck. And then, but, but she found. turned it around, but it's like, so I'm saying it, I don't know. That story goes in both, that story goes in both directions where it's like, it's inspiring that it's like, you know, perseverance, war of attrition, you stick around event. If you're getting up, you will be rewarded.
Starting point is 00:46:05 This is proof of that. But then on the other hand, again, if you want the glass half empty view, it's like, knowing that she's just, has been just as awesome as she is right now for 30 fucking years. And it didn't matter that whole time, you know, is like just points. out how much of a dice roll and shit the whole thing is in terms of like it's not really a meritocracy. It did matter though because her the reason she's so good at 59
Starting point is 00:46:31 is because she stayed good for 30 years and she kept on it like there is something about that. It mattered for her and also I need everybody to know Leanne Morgan without all this current success was still a very successful comedian. Like she made good money. Yes, but she's like
Starting point is 00:46:49 Like she's still, 99% of comedians will never even have the success she had before this success she's having is what I want to say. That's true. But she definitely, you know, she's broken through into that more like mainstream area now at the age of 59, which is great and inspiring and she deserves it. I'm saying, I'm saying, you know, that there was a lot of time where it's like she deserved it then too. And when I say nobody cared, I mean the stupid fucking industry is what I mean. I don't mean that like it didn't matter to that. them or they didn't care, not like it didn't matter at all, you know, like she always hit that hard. And they, they were like, nah. And then finally they came around on it.
Starting point is 00:47:29 But very late than never. I know that the pragmatic brain inside of most people will just be like, well, that's just not realistic. But like, it is inspiring to see her do that and go, yeah, right, you never know and just don't give up. And I think the attitude that I try to have is stay so busy that you never. will even know if you didn't make it or not. Like, you know what I mean? Like, if I'm just, I just focus on being really good today and then like, eventually I'll die and I guess I'll get to heaven or hell or whatever and realize like, oh,
Starting point is 00:48:02 it never really happened for me. But like, if you just stay so busy and you keep going, like you, like, how do you know? Like, you don't dwell on it, I guess because like, that's the thing too. I dwell on it a lot. But I was, I was having a walk the other day and I was thinking about all the stuff you were saying. Like, oh, man, you know, I really hit a. I was in a Disney writer's room when I was 30, and I thought we were going to have this whole thing or whatever.
Starting point is 00:48:25 And I was like, I mean, it's okay to reflect, but like, how are you going to get any closer your goals by sitting here and making yourself feel like shit? Like, it's not conducive to anything. Like, it just makes you feel bad. And not to get all Zen or whatever, but like just put that energy into like working on the next thing or whatever. Like, it's just wasted, just wasted fucking time. And then you see Leanne. You're like, yeah, there you go. Like, I see this picture floating around all the time.
Starting point is 00:48:49 on Twitter, and it's one of those stupid goddamn thread that's like pictures that are so deep that you have to be a genius to understand them. And, A, they're not. But this one does stick out to me. It's a dude, and he's digging, like, he's got a pickaxe and he's underground and he just keeps digging and keeps digging and he gives up. But then you look at the panel and right, right on the other side of where he gave up was all these diamonds or whatever.
Starting point is 00:49:15 And, like, that is a good thing to focus on of, like, I. Because I, dude, I think about quitting all the time. Still, like, even in the midst of our success, I was like, I'm fucking done. I don't want. I can't. I'm not getting this. But then it's like, I would spend my whole life going, man, I'd be uncle. We'd be Uncle Rico.
Starting point is 00:49:34 And it's way better to be a dude who's still trying than it and not making it. Then it is to be a guy who gave up and never will. Like, you never will now. Like, now you know the answer. Like, you know the answer. I don't know the answer. I don't. Like, I don't know what they're.
Starting point is 00:49:49 I'll make, but then also people listen to this are going, what do you mean make it? You have. You already have. We would kill to do what you're doing. Like, you've written two books. You have two columns in the Atlanta Journal Constitution. You've written for television. You make a living like, I think you just got to, it's like you, somebody used to have a joke.
Starting point is 00:50:08 It's like you can have, you can have the body you want right now. You've just got to want a different body. You know what I mean? And it's the same thing with success. You just got to change your definition of what. what success is and you can fucking have it tomorrow. You know what I mean? Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:50:25 We got about 15 minutes left and there was one thing I made a note of that I definitely wanted to ask you about it. It's not related to any of this. I made this note a couple days ago because I was just like, I would like to get Corey's opinion on that. You may already know. But so PCB, right, Panama City Beach. You've been known about that part of Florida and that whole,
Starting point is 00:50:45 that whole world and stuff. It was there last year, yeah. and uh well apparently and i'm trying to find out if it went again maybe you already know but they've they're like they either are they have recently banned uh drinking on the beach there on spring break yeah okay is it so is it just oh right it's literally just during the spring break period so you can still do it any other any other time of year it's just the month of march okay uh right yeah because i drink on the beach when i was there okay so So that kind of changes it a little bit.
Starting point is 00:51:21 That makes it make more. I thought they, obviously, when I heard that, I knew they were doing that with like that in mind, the spring breakers, but I didn't know that they had literally made the ordinance only applied to the month of March, which is kind of funny.
Starting point is 00:51:33 But it's one of those things like, as an adult, you know, I'm like, good fucking call, you know, but as I like college kid, I would have been like,
Starting point is 00:51:41 what kind of fascist bullshit is this or whatever? But it's also like, I don't know how, that had to be a ton of money at the same time. You know what I mean? Like a ton that like the spring break, because I went to fucking PCB on spring break in college. Of course I did.
Starting point is 00:52:00 And again, looking back, I was like, what a fucking trashy-ass, you know, ridiculous experience. That all was, but at the time it hit for me.
Starting point is 00:52:06 But like, I could definitely see how people in and around there and stuff are like, this sucks. Please get rid of this. And I have to imagine the sandpiper beacon has just failed entirely since this happened. And also the Tiki Bar,
Starting point is 00:52:18 there. But, but like, what, you know, like that balance of, uh, it's like I grew up in a lake town and it's like everybody always hated tourists and shit there. But then, but it was also like, you got to have them. But you got to have them. And it's like that. Salina is obviously a microcosm of that phenomenon in like real tourist places. But it, every tourist place, it's the same thing. And Slina was the same way. It was like, everybody talked shit about them all the time. Fuck them. They don't have for us. But when they stopped coming as much, it was like, oh, this is really bad. Yeah. For the economy. Right. So I'm saying, how's that shaking out in peace? Are they trying to just like just replace spring breakers with, you know, more well-to-do, less trashy fare down there and just keep it all rolling? Is that what their intent is and shit? Like, probably. I think what it is like what you're going to end up attracting is like the they want a higher class group of individuals coming and higher class groups of individuals. It's like we've always talked about like you're not supposed to drink in Dubai.
Starting point is 00:53:18 you hit and then you can totally drink. And so probably it's that they're like, we want to get classy people in here and then like, yeah, they'll, they'll end up drinking, but it'll be okay because they're also not, you know, shooting shotguns at the kites and sexually harassing everybody. I don't fucking know. But like, yeah, I saw a video one time of like, I think it was like in Gatlinburg or something where they were like interviewing business owners, but they blurt their faces out and had them give their like real honest opinion on tourists and they were always talking about I mean, fucking hate them and blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, I hear you, but you would not have your business if it was it for those tourists.
Starting point is 00:53:52 Like, a place like Gatlinburg only exists because of the tourists. So it's a big catch-22 thing. And you got to think about like the cops in Panama City Beach. Like, like their incentives have to be weird because it's like that, inarguably that town not only is ran on alcohol, but like its economy is based on underage drinking for the most part. Like, not that they're serving, but like, you know, when we'd go down there, you go, you find a fucking hobo. You give him $50 and say, get me a 12 pack and keep the rest. And it works every time. And so, like, have an underage kid's drink, like, is completely fueling your economy.
Starting point is 00:54:28 But then you got to weigh that on like, yeah, but then they're OD on the beach and we got to deal with that shit. And I don't know. Like you said, though, as an adult, I'm like, dude, I thank God, you're saving lives. You know what I mean? And as an adult, though, also, I don't have to go down. just during spring break, so I can still drink on the beach. So you've been back down there recently, like there specifically? PCB, you've been there in, I was there in, I was there this past year, I think.
Starting point is 00:54:57 Okay, so you just, you never stopped going, huh? Well, we, yes, we went, we changed to Gulf Shores for a while, but then, um, we lost access to the place that we stayed at there and then just went to, yeah, I know for a fact I went to Panama City Beach because I had a dinner with Conrad Thompson's lovely parents and they have a place down there. And I would say that like I want to go like, oh yeah, no, it's changed. It's not like that anymore. But like we just, we very much stayed within our own group. And I also didn't go out to any of the like we know. We stayed on our own little beach. And then like we go get groceries and stuff. Like we're not going to pineapple willies, you know. Yeah. I mean, I've only ever been there
Starting point is 00:55:42 in college for spring break i've never been there in any other context so to me i as me now i'm like oh my god that is the last place on earth i would want to fucking because i just i only had that that right uh just don't go during spring break you don't have to you know yeah right yeah but but i didn't know even what it's like outside of spring break if it was still just such like you know again i just remember being just such kind of just like a you know sort of a white trash shit show North Florida or whatever. I don't know if you remember, but I was sending y'all pictures. Like, I would go on, like, I still went on my walk every day.
Starting point is 00:56:19 It's just that in this, instead of being in the park, it was in the sweltering sun. And I went, I was like, I'm going to go into Alvin's Island and see what fair they're, you know, selling to the people. And I mean, it was nothing but Gulf of America shirts and Trump's your daddy and all that stuff. But I went in there by choice, not because I had to. And then I just left and, like, I would just go to, um, I would just, go to like an oyster house that wasn't on the strip and it was mainly people my age or older. So it was like being anywhere. You know, it was like being anywhere.
Starting point is 00:56:51 It was fine. And also not going during spring break means there just wasn't. The people I mainly saw were like older people who have a condo down there. And I would rather hang out with those people. So that's fine. But I was always more of a fan of Gulf Shores because I think the oysters are better. They're meatier. They're, you know, whatever.
Starting point is 00:57:09 But now now if you went during like just a regular. time that wasn't spring break i think you yeah the trashy stuff still there but like if you just stay on the beach all day a beach is a goddamn beach you know what i mean right right do you know where people that are um you know would consider themselves more well to do where do they go in florida well is it just not florida there's got be somewhere in florida right multiple places i I would imagine. West Palm Beach. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:57:36 Yeah. Palm Beach, West Palm Beach, those places, the Marlago area, you know. Miami, I think, is still a mainstay for those people. Key West, obviously. There are these, like, a lot of those. I feel like in Miami to me feels like tacky, cocaine rich. Yeah. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:57:54 That's true. But they, yeah, no, you're accurate on that. But like, so used to it would be like seaside, you know. Seaside was the place that like. Which is where? Where is that? It's close to Panama City Beach. It's like 30 minutes away.
Starting point is 00:58:08 So used to what would happen was you couldn't afford to stay in Seaside. So you go to Panama City and then one night everybody would hop in the car and you'd go to Seaside. Right. And it was so neat. Oh, this is where they filmed the Truman Show. But now it, the word got out and it's the most pop. You can't even like, I don't want to go there anymore because the only, people are literally, it's so crazy. They're just going there to get a T-shirt.
Starting point is 00:58:32 Like it's an Exodus just to go get this T-shirt. shirt. You can't, it's a two-hour weight, you can't hardly eat. They had a record store I used to love going to. It's elbow to elbow. So now I'm like, well, there is no point in this. But like Michael Jordan had a house there and that used to be it. But again, when a place hits,
Starting point is 00:58:48 the word's going to eventually get out. Because it used to the whole thing was this tiny, cozy little town. And one we used to go to was Appalachicola. And it was like, yeah, it's like 40, 50 minutes from Panama City. It's got the best oysters. I mean, you hear Apalachicola oysters.
Starting point is 00:59:04 you, restaurants brag about those. Like if you get, even inland, they're like, oh, we get ours from Appalachicola. And then they had a hurricane, which fucked a lot of things up. And I think they've rebuilt. But, um, but eventually these little hidden gyms just, you, you can't be a hidden gym. If it's truly a gym, it's not going to be hidden for too long, you know. Right. So you know what it is?
Starting point is 00:59:24 I don't know these places because they don't tell us. Right. I think that's what I was exactly. I wouldn't know. That's what I was just about to say to the same thing. I was like, yeah, but you know these people are, because I, because I, because I, because I think, experienced this before where it's like I've like tried sometimes like not to I'm saying like very special occasion and very briefly I've been like sure be and Katie or whatever let's take like a nice
Starting point is 00:59:46 like a legit trip that's like for real kind of high class to an extent at least and I'll like I don't know what to do I just Google it and shit like that and now then I found the things like oh this this is and then every every single time that I've ever booked it and like showed up I've been like this ain't. It's just a bunch of other fucking idiots like me trying to pretend that they hit or whatever, like, you know, which is like that's exactly how the people who do it want to me. It's like, but I always think it's like, yeah, it's like they, you say hidden gems always the word gets out, but it's like they somehow, you keep it under wraps like legitimate, you know, it's like there was a 30 rock joke about that, right, where it's like Seinfeld and Alec Baldwin
Starting point is 01:00:28 talking about like something about which island did you summer on? And it's like this one that poor people aren't allowed to know exist or something like that. But it's like, I really think there is an element of that in reality where it's like, yeah, like you said, we're just like we're literally not allowed to know and they keep that from happening somehow. So you just, you know. Yeah, they used to do it by just pricing everybody out. But I don't think they counted on like sometimes nowadays real trashy people get money real
Starting point is 01:00:56 quick and then just go to those places. So I just was in wine country. And I did this thing in wine country. that to me, to my white trash ass, sounded like bougie as hell or whatever. Yeah. And got there and nope, not remotely. Like you said, it was just like, it felt like fucking,
Starting point is 01:01:14 you know, like Daytona City Beach or something, but with wine involved somehow. And I was like, what the fuck is going on? You know, I just, and I'm sometimes like, is it me? It's just that I can't tell. It's the universe dictates that I'm only allowed to go to these places, you know, but I, like, it's, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:01:32 It's weird. Not the last time I was in Charleston, but a couple Charleston's ago, I stayed at the Dewberry Hotel, which is a like $800 a night hotel. Now, everybody should know, I did not buy it. It was bought for me by my friend Leslie Jones. Otherwise, I would not be staying there. We stayed there was so nice. And I was like, oh, you know, obviously $800 is ridiculous, but like, I do get it.
Starting point is 01:01:54 I do get why you have someone that hits me to want to stay here. Well, I go down to their bar because they had a bar and that's where I'm going to go. you know and uh the drink the like just a cranberry vodka was 50 bucks i but i but i assumed that i assumed that and i yeah well you assume it's a lot but god damn 50 no i know but amber was like amber was like why are they doing this and i said amber the reason they're doing this is because they don't actually want me to sit in this bar and drink right that's why they don't and and i can tell by the way because i'm in there being me i had a fucking sleeve with shirt on i and how y'all doing turn and you can see the disgut but i just was like i did
Starting point is 01:02:31 what me and you do. I just kept fucking order them. And she was like, why are you doing this? I said, because they don't want me here. And I'm fucking, I'm doing it,
Starting point is 01:02:40 you know, which was stupid. But like, they do, the reason that they price those things is not because it's, it costs so much to make. It's because they don't want trash coming there and trash won't spend, but,
Starting point is 01:02:51 but they don't, they never met me and you, though. You know what I mean? We're that new breed of trash that kind of keeps fucking up wine country for everybody. Right. Which I, whatever.
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