wellRED podcast - Is Kanye Crazy Or Sincere? (And More!)

Episode Date: April 23, 2025

This week the boys (Trae and Corey sans Drew) talk about Kanye West, Ryan Coogler's new movie Sinners, and a slew of other stuff! Corey has a new podcast called Public Domain Sleepy Time Theatre where... he reads you a bedtime story so you can sleep... this first season he is reading The Adventures of Tom Sawyer by Mark Twain and you can already get the first episode at WeLoveCorey.com before it's made available to the public! Corey will be at Helium Comedy Club in St Louis on May 2nd 2 shows only!  CoreyRyanForrester.com for tickets Go to TraeCrowder.com for tickets to see Trae EVERYWHERE! Start paying rent through Bilt and take advantage of your Neighborhood Benefits™ by going to joinbilt.com/wellred. Start your free online visit today at Hims.com/WELLRED.

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Starting point is 00:03:20 They're the next step that makes some people upset that they got three. big old dicks that you can sun Yeah, well, here we are, everybody, back once again. Doing well read. Drew came briefly back to the show and has a sense of sconded. Yeah. As he just want to do. Now, this time he, he drove nine hours to buy an unnamed Korean car from a dealership
Starting point is 00:03:50 outside of Washington, D.C. So I can, and then now has gotten stuck at that dealership. It must be just one hell of a deal, I assume. Oh, dude, it's a hell of a deal or Drew wouldn't be doing it. That's what I'm saying. By the way. There's a deal loving son of a bitch. He is a deal loving son of a bitch.
Starting point is 00:04:07 By the way, what's the farthest you would drive for a deal? You like deals too. Me, I like convenience. I like, well, you know, I wouldn't go almost anywhere for a deal. Like, I wouldn't, right, but like, no, no, no. I wouldn't either. I mean, I like a deal. Like if I, you know, when I'm at an antique store and I see something that I think the person
Starting point is 00:04:26 has undervalued, I get excited. But like, if I heard about somebody at an antique store in Kentucky that had a thing that I would not drive there just to get it. Right. You know what I mean? By the way, you know, this is the first time I realized, like, when Bare Naked Ladies saying, if I had a million dollars, they say, I would buy you a K car, a nice, reliant automobile.
Starting point is 00:04:50 I always thought that was like some sort of Canadian thing. I didn't realize it was a Korean car. When I heard K car, this is the first time I've ever heard. I mean, is it? Like, I mean, you know, I know K pop is Korean pop. K dramas is Korean dramas. So, I mean, or is that a specific type of, you know, car? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:05:08 This is only the second, this is the second time in my life I've ever heard the term K car. And the first was in the bare naked late song. If you Google and Wikipedia say K car may refer to a Chrysler K platform. So I guess Chrysler had a platform of models called the K series. And so it was K things or whatever. But I mean, but also like I don't even know what. So that's bare-necked ladies. When is that?
Starting point is 00:05:36 It's like the 90s, right? Yeah, that was on there. That was on there. I can't remember which album it was on. But it was before stunt, which was 99. So it's probably 96 or something. Yeah. Yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 00:05:47 It's 96. That ain't right. There's no way that's right. What? What? that this says Google says 1988
Starting point is 00:05:57 that's not right that's not no that Google AI shit fucking Google's like they sold out themselves they've burnt themselves with all this
Starting point is 00:06:07 not just AI but also the the ad the promos everything's the same it's horrible that the whole you're not really getting
Starting point is 00:06:15 information you're getting bought and paid for bullshit and the whole reason that they even got to be the default like they have one they have an eponym or whatever
Starting point is 00:06:23 it's called where it's like people say hey Google that Google that yeah like Kleenex or Band-Aid or dumpster Google has one of those which is complete Mark is one of them yeah dumpsters one of them yeah that's a brand name yeah but that's complete market
Starting point is 00:06:37 dominance is what that is unquestioned and they got that by hitting real hard at being a search engine you know but I mean they just fucking suck now I guess everything eventually just starts to suck like I mean I was about to say like
Starting point is 00:06:52 You just basically described Facebook as well. You know what I mean? Like Facebook started out and it became the biggest social platform because it was great. There was no ads. And I understand that like, yeah, you have to make money. Like a business has to make money to maintain or whatever. But there's a huge difference in making money and just being like we will just become completely useless for what it is that we are. Like as we are a search engine and we will take as much money as possible to be the now the worst search engine.
Starting point is 00:07:25 But like it's the default and it's on my phone and shit. And like I have it. I could probably change it to Bing, but I have it. And I don't know. I still use it too. I just use it and complain about it. But like. Yeah, no.
Starting point is 00:07:36 You right. But they, that is definitely what has happened. But it's also like, I mean, they built that empire. Yeah. Bill, billion, probably trillion dollar over the years empire. while doing it in a way that hit. You know what I mean? Like it's not like they were having trouble fucking coming up with money, Google.
Starting point is 00:07:56 Well, I don't know, though. Is it like, do you think maybe? I think they went beyond that. I know with a lot of tech startups and stuff, it's like venture capitalists and rich people prop them up because one day they'll make a profit. Right. But Google, I think they got, I mean,
Starting point is 00:08:08 we're talking decades. But how did they turn a profit without ads? Like actually turn a profit. I understand how the company could get money because all these people invest in it, but how did they actually turn a profit? Well, they did ads, but it just wasn't the way that it is now. Right, right. Like the search engine, the ad, you could very clearly tell what an ad is.
Starting point is 00:08:28 Right. And there's one or two of them at the top and it says promoted or whatever, but there was no AI bullshit that was incorrect. And all the other things were like legit sources. And so it was like, you know, that that's one thing. But now it's just like unusably bad. AI should be the defusably. I still use it. Well, AI is now the default too.
Starting point is 00:08:46 When you search something, it automatically comes up. Like I feel that should be something you turn on because like, dude, I mean, how many people? It's one thing. It's one thing to be like, okay, I'll go to chat GPT and look this up. Like you know that you're getting AI stuff, right? But like there's got to be millions of people who search on Google and don't realize that that's AI. Like they just overlook that and they just see the thing. And like, and like, right.
Starting point is 00:09:12 Obviously it's innocuous when it's bare naked ladies wrote if I had a million dollars in 1988. but like when it's uh you know does pete hegs us have a drinking problem no then it's like okay you're just spreading false information yeah no it don't hit i just want so i know this was forever ago now but the whole like how far would you go for a deal thing and i said i wouldn't go nowhere because i can more about convenience just so people know that works in the other direction too for me what i mean is like convenience is king for my lazy ass what i mean by that is so i wouldn't go any i would not go in not the very first extra mile would I go to save a dollar over the convenience but I also like let's say I was doing a show at some venue and they were going to put me up in a hotel and they were like
Starting point is 00:10:00 there's a Hilton Garden Inn across the street from our theater like right across street or if you want we will put you at the four seasons downtown or whatever you know it's like 10 minutes away or something like that yeah I'll be like just put me in the garden in because I'd I'm not going to be in there anyways. Right, right. I care more about being able to walk up. I just, the convenience part is what matters and it goes in both economic directions.
Starting point is 00:10:24 So I'm both cheap and lavish, I guess, in terms of whatever convenience warrants. Yeah. I mean, to me, like, money, the only reason money exists is to make you more comfortable. You know what I mean? Like, that's it. That's the only reason it exists. And so if I don't spend it on, if I, like, okay, it's fine to save a dollar here. and there if it's like, it wouldn't have been no big deal.
Starting point is 00:10:48 But like, yeah, dude, like, if looking for, like, think about, like, I go to Kentucky, right? Let's say I drive five, six hours for this deal. And even with the gas that I spent, even with the gas that I spent, it still turns out that I saved a buck, right? I still count those round trip 12 hours is 12 hours in my life. And it's like, what is my life worth for an hour more than that? Right. You know what I mean? Like I could be at home getting some work done.
Starting point is 00:11:15 Oh, speaking of which, I want to promote this really quick because I'll forget at the end. I have a new thing. You're going to laugh at it. But it's like the most positive feedback I've gotten on any new project I've done in a while. If you have trouble sleeping, it's public domain sleepy time theater. I'm doing it at we love Corey.com. And it's where I read in a calming voice to you works from the public domain. And the first season, we are doing the Adventures of Tom Sawyer by Mark Twain.
Starting point is 00:11:40 So check that out at we lovecori.com. people are loving it i had so many people comment they listened to it last night and fell asleep which is the goal so the how did you i mean how did you how did you how do you know that that would help people fall asleep because they're popular works of literature that are you know because i because i read it in a calming voice you know what i mean so that's all the matters don't any matter what you say it's well no my thing was like well if it's a banger of a story and you get like and grossed in it and then you know and that can happen that can happen but that's why i'm doing things that are in the public domain.
Starting point is 00:12:13 Well, number one, I'm doing things that are in public domain because I don't have to pay for it. Right. But my thing was like, I've been thinking about, and I listen, but for the record, let me go and shout them out. Sleep with me as a podcast that I've used for years and grace. I've fucked with it before. It's not like I'm revolutionizing anything. But the reason that I thought about it for like this, for this particular thing is,
Starting point is 00:12:33 number one, I wanted to read Tom Sawyer again. Number two, I was like every night when I go to sleep, I have to, in order to go to sleep, I either have to watch a movie I've seen a million times or listen to an audio book that I've listened to a million times. So it's like, I already know the story. So you're not going to. And so I'm like, well, with a lot of these, I'm reading people already know it. You know, but like also the pitch is like, even if it don't make you fall asleep, it's still
Starting point is 00:12:57 relaxing. It'll help you calm down. It's better than scrolling on your phone or whatever. And also as a benefit, like, even if you're like, I just want to listen to Corey, read Mark Twain and a sexy Southern voice, you got that too. And so chapters one and two are out at we love Corey.com. And I tell you, buddy, I'm over the pitch. I'm not trying to sell anymore.
Starting point is 00:13:15 But just to say, reading Mark Twain, this is the version I'm reading right here that I got from Barnes & Noble, reading Mark Twain, you really got to read ahead several pages before you start recording. Or otherwise, you're going to be editing a lot because, like, it's not as difficult as old English, but, like, some of the old Southern phrases and stuff, and I consider myself pretty learned in old Southern phrases. I yesterday reading chapters one and two I had to stop probably eight times to look up how to pronounce a word you know what I mean and then of course when I got to big gym and just the way that was my immediate impressing question just the just how are you approaching well in this word I don't know if this is the NIV version or whatever but so far it's just said colored and
Starting point is 00:14:06 negro right but I know does that have a date in it inside the book because you know Let's see. They famously did that, right, which was controversial. Well, I had said. Whoever had the publishing rights or I guess the public domains, so anybody wants to publish it, they like took the in-words out of it. I feel like that hadn't come up yet. I agree.
Starting point is 00:14:25 But listen, it might be that later he does call on that, because this is, oh, in chapters one and two, all you see of Jim, like Jim is more prevalent in Huckleberry Finn. Well, Huckleberry Finn is the one that everybody always talks about. Of course. It's the N-words and stuff. I was just in my head, I was like, there's at least some.
Starting point is 00:14:42 I'm sure that there are, because they've already said colored, mulatto, uh, Negro and all that. And like I was, it's funny you say that because I was talking on my stream last night.
Starting point is 00:14:52 I was telling everybody about this and I was like, I'm very conflict. Because so far it hasn't come up that it's been there. And I was like, I'm very conflicted because like, it, listen, it's a,
Starting point is 00:15:04 it's a put you to sleep entertainment podcast. So it's like is, why would I say it? But then I'm like, yeah, but it's the, context of it and artistic integrity like it matters and so far it hasn't come up and i just it's like you know sort of in a way it's like who are you right to say that to edit mark twain you know i mean i feel
Starting point is 00:15:24 like that's a valid way to look at it i mean i'm sure i'm sure it's a very divisive topic with people but you know sure and i don't it's like he's one of the goats obviously and it's like i'm going to decide that he he you know he ain't this word shouldn't be part of what he wrote or whatever it just doesn't It's like it just don't feel right to me. I've never been in a position to do what you're doing. Me either. Me either, but it's one of those divisive topics that like usually I like, especially in today's world, the type of divisiveness that we go through, it's every time I look at, you know, anything that comes out of Trump's mouth or anything that they put up, I'm like, well, it's very easy for me to know exactly which side I'm on in this situation. But I will admit this is one of those divisive things where I'm like, I get, I totally get either argument.
Starting point is 00:16:08 You know what I mean? I really do get either argument, but it hasn't come up yet, and I don't know, because again, it's like the whole book is a social satire of the way people were acting
Starting point is 00:16:21 and behaving after the Civil War. So when Mark Twain uses that word, it's not Mark Twain is not going, this word hits for me because that's how I feel about that. It's him talking in the parlance of the time, and I feel like, yeah, it's like I've always said,
Starting point is 00:16:36 like, if Quentin, you know, we bring this up all the time, if Quentin Tarantino didn't have Don Johnson saying it, that's a, that's, that's letting them off the hook. That's a, that's rude or whatever. I agree with that too. But at the same time, it's like, if the primary purpose of this is to put you to sleep, I don't want you to come to when the hard on comes out. And I think Negro's fine. Sure.
Starting point is 00:16:57 I mean, I'm not saying, like, I would never just walk up and call some man Negro, but I'm saying when you're reading, when you're reading something, because I remember, I don't even know if this is okay to say, but we read, we read Huckleberry Finn in like sixth grade or whatever, our teacher read it to us. And the way she edited it when she was reading it, she would say, Negro, which is like a combo of both of them. But it was her attempting to, she's like, I need you to know what it's softened it a bit. Well, yeah, she's like, I need you to know what he said. I can't, you know, I need you know what he said, but I can't say the word, you know, but I mean, I get it. It still is editing it, but it's also like that's a, you know, taking it pretty close to the same line.
Starting point is 00:17:44 But related to it, I actually was texting you about this earlier today. I had a, there's a bit on Trash Daddy where I talk about going on auditions and stuff. And I say, I was like, you could make a compilation reel for my audition tapes that would make Paula Dane blush, right? Me too. Which like is true, as you know. and it's like, that's always one where it's like, feels,
Starting point is 00:18:07 which I do a whole thing in there where I talk about getting a script. It's like, oh, this is a great director and a stack cast. This would be awesome. And I'm playing this guy. And then I get,
Starting point is 00:18:15 I get into reading it. The stage directions are like, you know, Billy Ray reaches for the knife on the nearby table next to the neatly folded clan robe. Yeah. And I'm like, God damn it.
Starting point is 00:18:24 You know, because even though I obviously assumed that was coming. I'm still holding out hope. It's like, maybe this, maybe he's one of the good ones. No, never.
Starting point is 00:18:32 So, but anyway, that story is basically, verbatim true and it's relevant right now because it's the movie in question was for that particular story with the neatly folded clan rover whatever is the movie centers the Ryan Coogler
Starting point is 00:18:45 movie that's out right now with Michael B. Jordan I audition to play one of the racist white people in that now I just everybody knows because I haven't seen the movie yet if you've seen it and they're like no that shit you're saying that that never happens in the movie that doesn't mean anything that don't mean the sides they give you to audition as an actor are not actual lines in the movie sometimes they
Starting point is 00:19:05 are, but oftentimes they're not, which kind of makes it funnier that I had to say like three hard or in words in this audition. If it wasn't even part of the movie, they were like, we need to hear how he drops it. It'd be funny if that was like a covert op to cancel you. You know what I mean? It's one of those things where it's like, you know, I knew it never crossed my mind because it's like, dude, some people, like, some people seem to have this like position, which I totally get in almost all context where it's like it's never, ever, ever ever.
Starting point is 00:19:35 okay to say it no matter what. Yeah. But it's like, it's usually never black people that say that for the record. Right. It's usually white ladies. But in a situation like this, it's like in my head, I was like, I mean, Yes, it is.
Starting point is 00:19:46 I'm a profession. I'm not, I mean, I want to be a professional actor. They're all professionals involved. Like, I have to, you know, part of me at first was like, I did because I'm neurotic. Part of me did start thinking is like, what if other people are editing it or something? But I mean, they're not. Yeah, right. It's like, they're not getting the gig either if they do that shit.
Starting point is 00:20:05 what the, right, yeah, but it's like, you got to say it. But then I'm also thinking it's like, what if they like, you know, then I say it and they're like, mm, a hell a little too hard for him or something. Yeah, right,
Starting point is 00:20:13 right, right. Well, no, but it's, but it should. It should. I know you should put stank on it.
Starting point is 00:20:18 I'm a fucking clansman. Yeah, I'm listening to play a clansman, you know, but it's like, but it is fucking, it is real weird, uh,
Starting point is 00:20:26 you know, it's an odd thing. It's an odd thing, but again, like, especially in a black directed movie, I'm going, that should be said.
Starting point is 00:20:36 Because again, like, I really do feel like if you start doing that, that's like gaslighting a whole group of people into thinking that people didn't act a certain way back in the day. And it's like they did, bro, that word, like they go, oh, well, that's how people talk back then. Bro, I mean, they still, I'm not going to repeat any of it. I'll tell you off Mike, but like, you know, I was at some extended family Easter shit this way. I heard some fucking shit that even I was like, God. And I'm a comedian who is like, I'm used to hearing this type of shit. shit from people and stuff. Even I was like, God damn. Like, not even, like, people still be talking
Starting point is 00:21:11 like that. And back then, it was like, not only fine, it was encouraged. And you could, this is, this movie takes place right after you could own people. So like, they're going to go from owning people to be like, I guess I'll say colored. You know what I mean? Did the, the people that were doing this at the thing you were at, are that you said it's, you went to an extended family gathering. Are these people you don't like see much? Like, you know, I only see him at things like this. Right, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:40 So, I only see him at things like this. Yearly or so, a couple times a year or something. A couple times a year. Yeah. And it was, again, wasn't it? Was this, when you, when they said it, we were like, that is so great uncle Randy or when you're like, God damn. So are they getting worse or something?
Starting point is 00:21:55 Because it wasn't funny. Like, it wasn't even meant to be funny. It was like. I didn't mean that so him like, no, you know, like that hit me. I just mean like, were you like, of course he said that. Or were you like, damn. It was a step beyond. Like even for these people, this person.
Starting point is 00:22:09 It felt a step beyond. Like it felt, that's all I'll say. What do you think about that? Like, are they worsening these people? I don't know that they're worsening or they're getting just braver in what they've always been. I think that's really what it is, is they're braver in what they've always been. Yeah, yeah. Like there was a time when they either, either there was a time when they didn't feel comfortable saying that, which I don't.
Starting point is 00:22:35 believe in or if now it's like they feel like so it's really funny because I think we've talked about this before surely but it's like these people act like Donald Trump didn't win you know what I mean like the way that they behave as they're like mad and shit as if they are still in some huge fight you know right and it's like that's how they thrive that's what hits the hardest for them as being in that position where they can pretend to be persecuted and look down on and stepped on and all that shit like that that's they that's they shit so my point right there yeah so my point is I can't decide if it's they now because of Donald Trump they now feel more comfortable saying it they're more free to say it out in the open or it's that they're saying they're getting more intense because
Starting point is 00:23:18 they're more scared now than ever that like because dude I see um you know racial cleansing fucking posts every day where it's like you know last year there were more uh mixed babies born in America than there were white babies. And I'm like, first off, no, there wasn't. I don't know how you're getting your data. Absolutely not. There absolutely was not. But even if there was like, you're already here,
Starting point is 00:23:39 they're not going to kill you. Yeah, that's a great replacement theory. It's the great replacement theory. Which is like a hallmark of, you know, Hitler. Fascist, all right, far right, like rhetoric and shit. It's part of how they get people is they like freak them out by convincing them that like you are being erased, you know, or replaced.
Starting point is 00:24:03 And somehow the Jews are running at all, but the Jews are choosing to replace good Christian white people with Mexicans and blacks and stuff. Right. Because that day hit for Jews. And there's, I don't know. But these same people also be like, you know, there's going to come a time if we're not careful where everybody just looks the exact same, just a blend of whatever. And I'm like, that would be awesome. That would hit. That would hit so hard.
Starting point is 00:24:25 Then it would just, then we would hate you based on what was inside your brain. That'd be so great, you know. It's also like you could still, if everybody was the exact, for A, I have no doubt that if we all woke up tomorrow and we're the same color, we would, we being human beings would immediately find so many new things to use to justify to hate each other. Of course, but at least it would be based on something. Right. But if you're, but if you're, if you hear that, you're like, what a damn shame that would be. because you want to be like, well, look, man, it's okay to have pride in your culture and whatever else. And it's like, well, you can still have a culture.
Starting point is 00:25:04 A culture. It has nothing to do with skin color. Where you're from, you know, there's still be different British people and American people are not going to be the same. People from Tennessee and people from Vermont are not going to be the same, whether they're all the same color or not, you know. Right. And of course, of course, rich people still going to hate poor people. And poor people are going to hate other poor people. But it might make it a little harder because now, usually. when poor people hate other poor people,
Starting point is 00:25:28 it's because of race shit. Yeah, right. Yeah, I mean, but anyways, like I said, like, I'll tell you off my, I mean, if anybody thinks I'm being a coward for not saying what it is, I just don't, I just don't feel comfortable. And it's, I don't want to, and that's, that's me saying this.
Starting point is 00:25:45 Think about that. That's me saying this. But it was, I don't know, and, you know, I know some people too would probably be like, why didn't you stand up and say something or whatever? And it's like, I just walked out.
Starting point is 00:25:56 out because I'd be the only one. And I know that's cowardice or whatever, but like, it was, dude, it was Easter and I just went and play with my kid. I ain't trying to fucking get no fight. I'm not going to check. Trust me, with the way these people think, I ain't going to change their goddamn mind at Easter. Right.
Starting point is 00:26:10 And I'm walking out is, you know, that's something. You know what I mean? I didn't storm out for the record. I didn't make a scene. Please don't think that I did anything brave. You know, sitting there and be like, oh, ho, yeah. Nervously, nervously laughing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:24 No, no, okay. Anyway, how about the dogs next year or whatever, you know. Before then, I will say they were just making sort of politically incorrect jokes. And I did sit there and just awkwardly laugh. One of them was a banger. Right. But then it was like, oh, no, come on. Those are just, those are jokes that is like.
Starting point is 00:26:45 Well, that's, and I would have done the same thing, but I'm saying that there's a scene in that movie. Senators. The remake, I don't know. guess who, which was the remake of that Sydney Poitier movie, Bernie Mac, Ashton Coucher is dating Bernie Mac's daughter, which a remake of a Sydney Poitier movie from back in the day. Guess who's coming to dinner? A race-swapped
Starting point is 00:27:05 one, I think. It is. Sydney Poitier was the one who's coming to dinner. And the new one, Ashton Coucher is. Which is, honestly, a way funnier idea. Yeah, no, that was a hidden way to do that. I'm sure it probably pissed people off because anytime you race-swap anybody, somebody's going to get mad. But that was a, if you're going to reboot a movie,
Starting point is 00:27:24 an interesting take on it, but anyway, especially all these years later. But anyway, there's a scene in that where, uh, they're all at the dinner table. And, you know, he's dating Bernie Mac's daughter. So his fiance is black and she like, like, tells him it's like, no, tell him, you know, you know, some good jokes. Yeah, whatever. And then he's like, no, I don't, you know, I don't do that. She's like, it's fine.
Starting point is 00:27:45 I promise you, it's fine. So he tells a couple black jokes. And I don't remember what they were, but everybody laughed. It hit for them. Bernie back, everybody's laughing and stuff. He's like, tell another one. Tell him. And it keeps going.
Starting point is 00:27:54 and it like escalates. Yeah. It gets worse. Yeah, right. And I'm sure the one that they said in the movie, I'm sure don't even come close to what your person said. Well, again, no, again, though, this wasn't a joke. It escalate. People are laughing.
Starting point is 00:28:07 Like, that, that, dude, if it's kind of like hitting for him, he's going to continue to push it a little first. You almost just can't. You know what I mean? Like, you got to, you got to up the Annie. You got to up the ante. And if you're doing that and you're heading for people, you're eventually going to take it too far. If you've got that in your repertoire. at all.
Starting point is 00:28:27 But yeah, I don't know. Were you alone with this person? No, no, no. It was, thank God, dude, because that would have made it way harder, honestly. It was a decently large group of people. And so when I got up to leave, it was like not really awkward. It was like it. It's also one, the best thing about having, well, not the best thing about having a kid.
Starting point is 00:28:48 The best thing about having a kid is unconditional love. But the second best thing about having a kid, you can always leave. You can always leave any situation ever and no one questions it at all. And also you can Irish goodbye parties. Anything. Like if you're anything. They're the best built-in excuse ever. For anything that you ever need.
Starting point is 00:29:05 That's very, very true. Literally, I could be in the middle of a conversation that's just not hidden for me and I could just go, oh shit and just like, Bain, you know, like he's running. It's awesome. It's so good. But again, like, you know, him like fulfilling me as a person and making me a better man and the unconditional love, I would put slightly above. Slightly above.
Starting point is 00:29:23 of getting you out of excuse with the heartbeats. Yeah, right. Yeah, but only. But I mean, you know. It's right there at it. Yeah. It is right there at it. It is.
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Starting point is 00:33:45 skew speaking of which conier sucked his cousins dick i can't hear you that is my fault sorry i muted myself and forgot i did can you hear me now i can i was just mentioning that conier sucked his cousin's dick i heard that yes it was a good time for me to be muted because like if you're only listening i was like yeah well also if you only listen it's like it's straight stoned into silence or yeah right exactly yeah like like what just yeah what i did not see that coming right yeah yeah waiting with bated breath to see how I respond to that news. Lip quivering. So, all right.
Starting point is 00:34:27 He just tweeted that. Is that in context and when it came out? Yeah, let me read the tweet. Let me read the tweet. It is, because I saw the memes first, as is how that works.
Starting point is 00:34:38 You know what I mean? Right. And then I was like, wait, what? So, yay, he put out,
Starting point is 00:34:44 he released a new song. He said, this is, this is, and this is his promo for the song, by the way. Mm-hmm. He puts the link out the song.
Starting point is 00:34:50 This song is called Cousins about my cousin that's locked in jail for life for killing a pregnant lady a few years after I told him we wouldn't look at dirty magazines together anymore. Perhaps in my self-centered mess, I felt it was my fault that I showed him those dirty magazines when he was six and then we acted out what we saw. My dad had Playboy magazines, but the magazines I found in the top of my mom's closet were different. My name is Yay, and I sucked my cousin's dick till I was 14. So it's like a dick-sucking Cousins Anonymous post. Right. Yeah. Also, I didn't know he was from the South.
Starting point is 00:35:23 I had to come. I knew he was from the South Side, but I didn't know. That even works in Chicago. If you're from the South Side, you'll suck your cousin's dick. So, all right. Here's the thing. So is everybody, is everyone believing this or not or what? Because he's obviously a full-blown lunatic.
Starting point is 00:35:42 He is. He says, if it's not true. Yeah, but doesn't he say all kinds of, He does. Sainly wild things to say that's like, why would anyone ever say what he just said? And he does. He does that all the time. Being a black conservative.
Starting point is 00:35:55 Maybe this will make the, the song. I mean, I'm going to listen to it now. I wouldn't have before. Publicity's good publicity. It's like, I got to listen to the cousin Dick sucking song from Kanye. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:06 I got to know. What if it's a banger? Then I'll feel weird about it. That's, you know. Dude. No, I don't know. I mean,
Starting point is 00:36:11 I guess I'm inclined to think that it probably is true because, yeah, why in God's name would you say? if it isn't, but at the same time, it is him. It is Kanye. Now, I will say this, like, if it was his girl cousin, I'd be like maybe he's just making shit up, but it's like... Right.
Starting point is 00:36:27 Okay, he's a full Trump, like, where's Hitler's shit, whatever the fuck? And also, we both know, not that it's great in the white community, but that in the black community, especially amongst rappers, homophobia is very prevalent, oftentimes to do with either the Lord
Starting point is 00:36:43 or just like, I want to be manly or whatever. this is a pretty damning thing to say if you're a member of both of those clubs. And I hate to be, but I also hate to be conspiracy minded. Because every now and then people were like, oh, everybody in Hollywood's paid to say all this stuff to distract you from what's going on. And I'm like,
Starting point is 00:37:03 I mean, is Trump about to invade Yemen or something? And they were just like, Kanye, tell everybody you suck your cousin's dick. It'll flood the headlines and we'll do all this shit in the background. Because Pete, Texas trial is today or something like.
Starting point is 00:37:16 Well, he'd have to, I mean, what a good soldier, Kanye is if he, you know, if he just rolled with that. You know what I mean? Well, you're always a good soldier. If you got a gun to your head and videos of you doing terrible things that would ruin your life. Although I don't think you can ruin someone's life that has that fan base. Right. Unless they admit that they're like, they suck the boys' dick. Yeah, it's funny to think that there's some, there's a non-zero number of dudes out there right now who are like, you know, up until now,
Starting point is 00:37:46 Kanye hit for me so hard. Right. But this. This is a bridge too far. And I know it's obviously a very fucked up situation all around because you're talking about two kids doing it and their cousins and all that. It's not just. It's very fucked up.
Starting point is 00:37:59 It's not just that it's like gay, but for, you know, like for these people, I think it's mostly just that it's gay. Right. Because like to me listening to it. Because he's saying they're the same age, right? Is that part clear? That's unclear, isn't it? It is unclear.
Starting point is 00:38:14 Because if he's like multiple years, older than his cousin and that's another level of fucked up. He said he did it until he was 14, implying that it went on for a while. So Kanye was obviously still underage when it happened, you know, um, bro, I don't know, man. But like the thing is like, yeah, like, yeah, did he said when my cousin was six, I started showing him stuff? When he was six. When he was six.
Starting point is 00:38:38 I showed him those 30 magazine. When he was six. Right. When he was six. And he said, my name is Jay and I sucked my cousin's dick until I was 14. So what if he started that when he was like 11 or 12? I was about to say, dude, because here's the thing, you know, the only way, the only way that it's like halfway okay is it's like if Kanye was seven. If they're both the same age, it's like seven years.
Starting point is 00:39:00 Yeah, right. It's a long time to suck your cousins. I mean, anytime. It's a long time to suck your cousin's dick. And that to me is a bridge too far. Yeah. You suck your cousin's dick a couple times and then you go, ugh. You don't do it for seven years.
Starting point is 00:39:13 I mean, again, though, it's a sad story. because they're kids but that's how I look at it is like if they were truly around the same age and their kids like no part of me goes oh my god Kanye's gay I go no he's a confused child that saw things you shouldn't seen and his brain didn't take it well and all that shit and that but like it being Kanye I don't know it's it's just it's just fucking crazy like just when you think this couldn't get wilder can't get wilder it's like he goes and does something like this goes and does something like this and like somebody was like
Starting point is 00:39:45 you know I posted I posted a joke on Instagram and Twitter about it which was you see what 50 cents said no what he said he said damn like the day this all happened Sunday I guess whenever it was he goes
Starting point is 00:40:01 he goes damn Nick's lost Pope died and yay sucked his cousin's dick I'm going to fucking bed maybe tomorrow be a better day It's so funny to me to think that 50 cent actual, like the Pope dying is as relevant as those two things. I thought the same thing. That's how you know he's a comedic genius because it didn't.
Starting point is 00:40:23 He put, he's like, it'll be funny. Right. He goes, here's two things that actually matter to me and one stupid. I don't have a third, but here's a thing that will work for that because it's a big thing. Yeah, right. He's not. I agree completely. And it's the rule of three.
Starting point is 00:40:37 He knows that. Right. Yeah, right. He knows that. Like innately 50 cent is one of the. funniest fucking people that hasn't dedicated his life to being funny that I've ever seen in my life. Like he's so good.
Starting point is 00:40:47 And I mean, sometimes he'll go a little too far. Sure. Of course. As you said, all the greats do. Even Ashton Cutcher and guess who? You know, you start testing the limits. Like he made, he made up, I can't remember what the post he made once was, but it was about gay people or something.
Starting point is 00:41:01 And fucking two chains commented on it. He said, cool it fifth. And he did. Like, he cooled it, you know. But anyways, I made this post. It only works if you know the John Mullaney special New in Town, which was I quote tweeted. I was like, excuse me, I'm black, I'm gay, I'm a Nazi,
Starting point is 00:41:21 I'm new in town, which really, which did hit for way more people on Instagram that I thought because I mean, John Mullaney's famous, but somebody was like, I don't know if I believe this because that motherfucker literally will just say any words possible, you know, to get attention. And I was like, I was like, yeah, you're right. which really sucks because used to he would just write words in an order that rhymed and get plenty of attention because he was so good at it. And it's like it is a shame to see like like used to.
Starting point is 00:41:52 I mean, Kanye always had that air about him. Like, James Chappelle even joked about it. You know, it's like the first time Matt Kanye's like rewind that shit, play that shit back. Like he's always been a dude that had that aura about him that like I'm great, I'm whatever. But he backed it up with bangers. You know what I mean? Now it's like he does the crazy shit so that you will now listen to his music. Used to it was like you listen to his music.
Starting point is 00:42:16 Then he did the crazy shit because he felt like the music justified it, you know. Yeah. I mean, didn't it like the, I don't know if I should say generally accepted, but a widely spread theory that when his mama died that he kind of snapped or began to snap. Because I don't, again, shit I've read on the internet that I did not fact check because that's how I operate. right. I've read before that like he his mama died as part of a surgery. Yeah. A routine surgery. A routine. Complication during a routine surgery that I think he like got for her. Yes, he did. Like paying for her to get, yeah, or whatever. And so,
Starting point is 00:42:55 you know, I mean, I could definitely see how that would fuck somebody up. But like, for sure, go to therapy for a while. But he blamed the Jews for it. I might say, don't turn into a Nazi. Yeah, right. I don't. Also, I mean, that was, that's got to be fucking 15 plus years ago now or something. I would imagine. But that's a right around the time he that's right around the time he snapped yeah and like but you know it really could be as simple as like that happened the doctor was jewish and conier started to believe all that like those old martin lawrence legend theories of like the the jews are trying to kill all the black people in hollywood and all this shit and he just was like it was confirmation bias for him and then he
Starting point is 00:43:29 fucking also you got a guy here Kanye west who like nobody in this man's corner is telling him no ever like he's just got people around him that sick of fans that when he says something it's like okay so like he's he don't have no objective grip on reality like he was fucking you know also in this time like the people he was surrounding himself with were the fucking Kardashians
Starting point is 00:43:50 like this dude's out there man he's fucking loony tunes why who am I this guy's out there man he's looney tunes who the fuck am I right now uh didn't he also just recently lose that uh that new naked chick of his Oh, did he? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:44:07 I lose as in, they broke up, I think. Yeah. She ain't dead or nothing. But she took her naked ass off somewhere. I think. I don't blame her because it seems like every day Kanye was like, bitch, put your ass in a garbage bag and come here. Let's go out in public.
Starting point is 00:44:23 A see-through garbage bag. Yeah. I don't know, man. You said something about Martin Lawrence or whoever, the whole like all the Jews in Hollywood and black people and what they're trying to do and whatnot. This is only. vaguely related to this because it has to do with like I don't know, homophobia and all of that
Starting point is 00:44:39 type of stuff I guess, but we might have talked with this before on here, sorry if we have. What are you think about that whole like sometimes black people in show business will talk pretty open well openly like on podcast and shit about how like you know about the dress right and like
Starting point is 00:44:55 the whole they're like eventually as a black man in Hollywood you're going to be made to wear a dress and if you don't play ball they'll you know fuck you. And if you do, you pass their test and they'll let you be one of their fucking,
Starting point is 00:45:10 you know, one of their chosen ones or whatever. And it's like, you know, just what do you think about that? Because usually, also, it's normally it's like in the context of comedy too right off.
Starting point is 00:45:20 Because I know it's like, it all goes back to Nipsey Russell. Or, yeah. Didn't, well, didn't Cap Cat say this about Kevin Hart or him and somebody said this about Kevin Hart where it's like, I think Kat made the claim,
Starting point is 00:45:31 I'm really talking about out of my ass now, but that like he was going to be some role in some movie. And he wouldn't wear the dress or whatever. He said no to the dress. He said no to the dress. That's a spinoff show on a and E. but it's about this on A&E, but it's about this subject.
Starting point is 00:45:45 But he said no to the dress. And then Kevin Hart said yes to the dress. I don't remember Kevin Hart ever been in a dress, but I'm sure, I mean, whatever. I mean, but also, but like, dude, Chris Farley also wore a dress. That's my whole thing. That's what I think every time.
Starting point is 00:46:00 At every time, the main thing I think as a comedian and comedy matters. I'm like, bro, you think that, you think Uncle Miltie got forced into it? It's like a drag, like you said, whatever you think about what this says about society or whatever. A dude, we did it in our fucking comedy central sketches. Put me in drag. I had a contractual, we have a contractual clause with Comedy Central. When we do a sketch, one of us has to be in the makeup chair for eight fucking hours. That's a rule.
Starting point is 00:46:30 Like, it's just a long standing thing. and trope in comedy especially where it's like put a dude in a dress you know and like and it'll be and it's like well I just don't think it necessarily has any kind of racial context to it but I thought I don't either I mean what the fuck do I know I mean I know that I've seen as many white men do it as I've seen black men do it I think the problem would be is that the problem would be is it seems more prevalent maybe in the black community because Hollywood over the years and the American public at large have only allowed so many black people to become stars where so many white people have. And then it's just like, so if, you know, if four out of the five big black comedians from the past couple of years have worn a dress, it seems like all of them have,
Starting point is 00:47:18 you know what I mean? But it's like Sandler, Farley, Phil Hartman, there's no one that's ever been on Saturday Night Live that hasn't worn a dress. Like, and again, and this all starts with like Nipsey Russell back in the 70s. He famously did this, but it was, it's kind of what made him popular. I don't think they made him do it. This was Nipsey Russell's idea. Like, I'm a comedian. I'm going to go and drag and play this female character. And I think it all, like, a lot of it stems from that.
Starting point is 00:47:39 But a lot of it also stems from vaudeville. Again, it's a trope because it's comedy is subverting expectations. And it's like, oh, here's a dude in a dress. And it's like that famous Tina Fey quote. It's like, if you want to make an audience laugh, you dress a man up like an old lady and push her down the stairs. But if you want to make a comedian laugh, you push an actual old lady down the stairs, you know? And I know that last part is only four comedians.
Starting point is 00:47:59 but the first part is true because it's like, like Kevin's, Kevin, uh, James in a dress would be funny to a lot of people. I don't know if it's right. It's cheap, whatever, but like,
Starting point is 00:48:09 no, I don't think it's a humiliation ritual for black people specifically. They, John Cena wore a dress like at the Oscars or something. They were like, no, he came out naked, that's right.
Starting point is 00:48:19 And they considered that part of some Hollywood thing. Right. Okay, but he's a white Hitler youth looking alpha male. Like so it's, it's not a race thing. I'm not saying Hollywood ain't fucked up. and don't do some of the shit.
Starting point is 00:48:31 And I'm not saying that they're not racist against black people. I don't think the dress has anything to do with it. I agree with you. And that John, say this about John Sina
Starting point is 00:48:38 then I want to pivot into John Sina, but that John Sina thing that happened, Katie told me, I don't know where she got this, but Katie told me at the time that that actually, a lot of other people thought
Starting point is 00:48:50 that he did, they came out naked because there was some sort of labor dispute happening with the costumeers, wardrobe. Yeah, at that time.
Starting point is 00:48:57 And that was him showing solidarity ready with them. Yeah. So, I mean, I certainly would roll with that.
Starting point is 00:49:02 I thought that was actually, I thought they, was it publicized? I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure. That's what he did. I don't know if it was, that's what he said,
Starting point is 00:49:08 but like, maybe, maybe you're right. I don't even remember. Maybe that's literally what he said. I think that was the point of the bed. Yeah, right. So all these people says humiliation ritual
Starting point is 00:49:15 just called that bullshit. Yeah. And it's like, do you think, I can tell you right now, John, John Cena's been working for Vince McMahon for for nine on 30 years.
Starting point is 00:49:26 There ain't nothing you can do to humiliate this motherfucker. Okay, that's the thing I wanted to get into with John Sina because I don't keep up with wrestling drama, but I saw that he, he like came out and, I don't know if it came out in support is the right way to put it, but he, he said like, hey, I'm never, I'm never going to hate Vince McMahon. Vince was good to me, basically, so he hits for me. Like, he said something like that, didn't he? Well, he said, he said off in recent days.
Starting point is 00:49:52 He said basically what, and he, and by the way, he said this before, um, you. Even after the allegations came out, the reason that it's way more publicized now is because John Sina made his return to WrestleMania and won beat Rick Flair's record for championships. He's got the 17-time champion. So it's more publicized now. But it came out, like, when all the allegations first came out, they asked Sina about it. And, like, I mean, I'll give him a little bit of credit because he was like, okay, right now, he's like, right now these are all just allegations. He's like, I'm not saying I don't take him serious. He said, but like, you know, it's a lot for me to process.
Starting point is 00:50:30 And all I know is the man that I know who I love and has always treated me great. And he's like, you know, until he's convicted or until this is proved true, he's like, that's how I'm going to remain. You know, I don't know what to tell you. And he said, he basically said the saying. He goes, you can't, he's like, you can't tell your heart what to think. He's like, and I love this man, you know, whatever. I'm not saying that's right, but I get it right. Because, you know, me and you've talked about this all the time.
Starting point is 00:50:56 Right. If somebody tomorrow came out with hypothetically allegations about you. Right. People would, would, allegations. Like not, I've seen the video and saw you do this shit because that's a lot different, you know. Even then though it would still take me a long time to be like, how do I, how do I throw away this, you know, not to get sappy on you, but this beautiful 15-year relationship with this guy that I love and know. And that's not the guy I know and all that shit. I'm not going to throw him away.
Starting point is 00:51:24 based on allegations, you know, proof, sure, whatever, but based on allegations, no, I'm not going to do that. Now, granted, bro, Vince McMahon did that shit. Right. But I don't, and he, I guess he could just say no comment, you know, he could, the least he could do was say no comment. But also, like, I don't know, man, he's such a fucking, like, dudes like Sina and the Rock, like, they've been working with PR companies for so long that now their brain just thinks in, PR, you know what I mean? Like, which is not, I don't know, man.
Starting point is 00:51:59 Like, I don't know what to say other than like, he was being interviewed about WrestleMania and then they threw this question in there and maybe he's just like, I don't want to fucking talk about this. You know, I don't want to, I don't know, man. What was the other? So, WrestleMania just happened, right? And it's like, wasn't there a bunch of shit going on? Yeah, there was a bunch of shit.
Starting point is 00:52:19 Drama and stuff. Yeah, so right before WrestleMania, Roman Raines was asked about. politics or whatever and he basically came out in support of Trump like you know I'm not saying I was always on the team but like America's prospering and blah which is you know what all this shit and it's like again it's like these dudes it's like yeah you are you're killing it like why wasn't a multi-millionaire that's headlined WrestleMania think everything's going great you know he's said that and then triple age they were asked him they were somebody asked him about Trump and he gave the most again just the most I've been in my own world for so long that I
Starting point is 00:52:54 cannot see the fucking outside. He goes, oh, man, he's like, you know, Trump, say what you will about him. He's like, love him or hate him. You know, he's a great character. You know, the guy knows how to get heat. The guy knows how to get heat. And it's like, sure can't cut a promo. He sure can't cut a.
Starting point is 00:53:07 And all of those things are fucking true. Right. But it's like, well, they're carnies, right. And he's like a carny president sort of. Yes. Yes. And it makes sense that they would see things in him that, you know. And he's a WWE Hall of Famer.
Starting point is 00:53:21 Oh, yeah, that too. Right. I forgot about that. He's a WWE Hall of Famer. and I have no doubt that Triple H likes him as a person. They've hung out or whatever. And, you know, it's just like Bill Maher, he's like, you know, when I met the real Trump. And it's like, okay, but the real Trump don't matter.
Starting point is 00:53:34 It's what he's presenting that matters. Right, right. No, you know, really in secret, he's a sweet guy that cares about people. And it's like, well, do that in public, bitch. Right. You know, so a lot of people do, not just Bill, many, many people say that about Trump. And so I do believe it, but it's like you just. I believe it, too, but that doesn't make him a good person.
Starting point is 00:53:53 But it doesn't make a different. Right, I agree, yeah. Like, I believe them when they say, I believe he probably is, I guess, because I've heard enough people say it in person, like he's charming and likable and you get along with him. Of course. Why would he be? Well, on this note, it's like, you know,
Starting point is 00:54:07 I feel the same way about Bill Maher. The brilliant Larry David. Yeah. Right. wrote that, uh, wrote an op-ed in the New York Times called My Dinner with Adolf. Right. He basically drew a pretty, pretty slick parallel. What a legend. Yeah, I know he's the man, dude.
Starting point is 00:54:22 And it was like he was the perfect. person to have done that too. You know what I mean? Because it's like, who gonna say shit about Larry Day? Nobody. And it also doesn't matter. It's like, right. He's, you know, but I mean, I've said the same thing for years, literally about Bill Marr. Like literally about Bill Maher. I was like, you know, the guy you see on TV is not really the guy you meet in person. He's very charming. He's very sweet. He's not condescending. He's blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And it's like, right, but that may all be true.
Starting point is 00:54:48 But the guy you show, who you show yourself as in public is who you are. Like, that is who you Right. Unless you're on a song, unless you're on. Having been around him multiple times, like, that also is not, he, it depends. I met him, I met him one time at a party. We smoked the joint together and he was really cool. That's what I always say. He was very cool. The other times I was physically around Bill Maher, it was like, he kind of was the way you expect him to do it. Either way it doesn't matter. My thing is like, but that, but to me, it's like, unless you are literally a character in a sitcom, I go, however, If you present yourself as, this is real time with Bill Maher, that means that's who you are, right?
Starting point is 00:55:27 That's real time with Bill Maher. Now, if you're like, I would, I would never be like, fuck Walton Goggins. Did you hear what he said as Uncle Baby Billy? You know what I mean? That's a huge difference. How you present yourself to the public may not be exactly who you are, but if you say horrible things and you mean it, then it is like, okay, I present myself as, I'm a dumb ass. don't give me wrong, but I present myself as far more of a dumbass as I am for comedic purposes, right? But I would never, like, but if you ever hear me start saying some Nazi shit, and I'm in secretive,
Starting point is 00:55:59 I'm just like, I'm just saying it to get people riled up. It doesn't matter. If you're pretending to be a Nazi for fame or clout, then you're a Nazi. Right. It's the same. You're still serving the Nazi's purpose, which means you're in their club, you know? Yeah, I mean, I've thought before, you know, arguably, because it's always a question with, like, people on the right wing in this country. It's like some of them, and I don't know what the ratio is, but they're undoubtedly, there is a split where it's like, you know, true believers versus just straight up grifters.
Starting point is 00:56:28 And it's like, I think it's highly debatable which of those two categories is actually worse. You know what I mean? Like, there's a part of me that like weirdly kind of respects the true believer. You know, I hate everything they stand for, but I'm like, but, you know, at least you. At least you fucking walk it, you know, like, and it's like, like, you like, you know, you're Congress. Marjorie Taylor Green, I have no doubt whatsoever. Right. That she is exactly the type of lunatic bitch she presents herself to be.
Starting point is 00:56:59 Dumb kind. And I weirdly kind of, I prefer that to someone who's like, who, you know, fakes not being a lunatic bitch. You're worse of a person if you're faking it. Because like, you know, and it's funny to bring up this guy in this particular subject, but like Ricky Jervais, who like has really took a huge swing to the other side. but like I remember one time he was on Colbert and Colbert's you know Colbert's a Christian which let me say that again Colbert the uh the host of a network television program is an out and about
Starting point is 00:57:33 God-fearing Christian and no one has a problem Catholic or is he a Catholic uh just we're that's out I don't know he's from the South Carolina so we could go either way which would be sort of weird but I still kind of think he's Catholic anyway whatever he's it's funny you say that because Catholic is sort of the Christian that Hollywood accepts. They're like, you know what I mean? Like if you're, like, when Chris Pratt, if Chris Pratt's just a regular Christian, so some people are like, ugh, but if you find out someone's a Catholic,
Starting point is 00:57:57 you're like, well, that's fine. They drink. I'm a, honestly, I'll sort of, A, you said they drank. But I think you could make a pretty good case for defending that position where it's like, no, I agree. But it's also like, Catholic, there's people who are almost like culturally Catholic. Yeah, culturally Catholic. Like it's like such a part of certain communities, cultures.
Starting point is 00:58:18 and it's ancient and all that. I mean, of course, Baptist is part of ours too, but it's like, but still, I kind of understand why people would think that. I mean, hell, frankly, I kind of think that. Bro, me too. If I find out someone's a Catholic versus finding out someone's like a hardcore Southern Baptist. I'm way more into him.
Starting point is 00:58:36 Well, the Catholic I can fuck with, you know, but. I just had a three-hour conversation with Kathleen Madigan yesterday. Right. And like, she's a hardcore Catholic. And like, it's, if I was talking to. Gaffigan, he's Catholic. Yeah, and if I was, but if I was talking to a hardcore Southern
Starting point is 00:58:52 Baptist, that conversation, I'll tell you what, it wouldn't last three hours. I can tell you that much right now. It'd be way different. But what the fuck were we talking about? We're talking about Stephen Colbert, Ricky Jervais. Stephen Colbert.
Starting point is 00:59:03 Ricky Jervais was on there and he was like, and Stephen was like, why don't, why don't you believe in God or whatever? And he's like, well, I just, I just don't. And he's like, but how? And he goes, and Ricky Jervis is like, okay, I want you to do something for me. Stop believing in God.
Starting point is 00:59:17 And he's like, I can. And he goes, okay, there you go. He's like, you believe in him. You can't stop believing him. I don't believe him. I can't start. You know, it's like this, I believe that he's not real.
Starting point is 00:59:28 And I can't, that's just my belief. And I can't change how I feel about that. You know what I mean? And so the people, now the people that are like, again, if you believe whites are supreme or whatever, you're still an asshole. You're still a huge asshole. but like if you believe it what am I supposed to do
Starting point is 00:59:53 like what am I supposed to do but if you believe it based on regurgitated talking point bullshit that you got off of a Ben Shapiro podcast you're a fucking idiot but like I don't know it's difficult man because like the people that down here the people that believe in God there's nothing I could ever say to them
Starting point is 01:00:10 there's no amount of wonderful homosexuals that I could introduce them to to make them stop believing that homosexuality is a sin. Mm-hmm. And that's dangerous, that there's a book that is unverified. You know, nobody asked GROC if the Bible was real back in the day. We didn't have GROC. We didn't have CHAPD to verify it.
Starting point is 01:00:33 And it's dangerous because they believe it. But I agree. Well, that's the main thing that should make the difference that they don't seem to understand or want to acknowledge is it's like it's not the same. It doesn't go both ways because you. You try to use your beliefs to, you know, you force them on other people. Right. I'm not doing that.
Starting point is 01:00:52 Like, and we're not doing that to you. Like, no one's telling you that you can't believe whatever you want to believe, but you can't use your beliefs to tell this person they can't be who they are or what they are. Because that's not, you know, you're right. You're, what is it? Your beliefs don't extend other people's right. Your freedom ends where other people's. Your rights in where someone else's begins. Right.
Starting point is 01:01:12 Yeah. Yes. But the thing is, though, they, okay, that's, I agree with you. 100%, but if you were debating one of those people, wrongly, they would go, well, yeah, but y'all are forcing your beliefs on us by making snow white Mexican and telling me that transgender people have to be in the army. And it's like, but none of these things are, what belief is that that Mexican should be allowed to do, by the way, I don't even know if she's Mexican, whatever, but it's like the
Starting point is 01:01:36 belief that what, what, what do you, that you're forcing your beliefs that what, transgender people shouldn't die, like it, they shouldn't die or they should be sent to camps or whatever. Right. Like RFK's like he just released a program today or something. It's like he's going to track autistic people. Like he's going to track autistic people like you do your kids on your cell phone. Like that's your belief getting in the way of my fucking freedom. My belief is that everyone should have personal property rights be left the fuck alone unless they are causing harm or starting a riot. Y'all don't believe that.
Starting point is 01:02:09 You believe like the things that they say is like the transgender person, the gay person, the black person, whatever, they're very, existence is political and therefore disruptive of our nature of life. Yeah. It's like all they're saying is leave me the fuck out of it. No one's saying, give me this, give me that. They're going, leave me the fuck out of your bullshit. That's what I'm saying. They're like, oh, you are forcing it down our throat.
Starting point is 01:02:28 It's like everything that you would use to justify saying that is just us telling you that you can't stop these people from doing these things. And also, what are these fucking people watching that they go Hollywood shoving transgenderism and gay shit down our throat? Dude, I'm currently watching like six or seven new shows that have come out or new movies. And I haven't seen one. Maybe there was a gay relationship in one, but it certainly wasn't forced. It was just like, oh, this person's gay and nobody ever said anything about it. I've seen no transgenderism shit. Because I'm watching explosive, like, mob shit.
Starting point is 01:03:05 And I'm like, I'm the liberal douche that you're talking about. And the media that I'm consuming ain't shoving nothing down my throat. And maybe you could say, like, well, you're just immune to it at this. point, but it's like, no, I look out for that shit. I look out for it just so I can be like, I can track it. I'm like, what do you all? But it's like, these people think that they have to watch Amelia Perez.
Starting point is 01:03:24 That's the main thing, too. I've not seen it. I've not seen it. I've not seen it. Right. Because there's, like, dude, Taylor Sheridan has 19 shows on right now for you. Exactly. Just watch those things. Right. There's more stuff. You know, fucking all them Kirk Cameron movies, all, whatever, all those like Jesus movies, like, I
Starting point is 01:03:39 hate, well, I've never seen them, and I never will. I just don't watch them. I know they want it for me, so I just don't watch them and fucking that, and that's the end of it. I can tell you something right now that I don't have backed up, but I can guarantee you I'm correct. 99 to 98% of movies that come out this year will not feature a transgender person or talk about transgenderism. They won't. They won't. And here's why, because those movies are trying to make money. Right. I mean, or it doesn't fit the story. It doesn't fit the story. Like, I'm writing a thing right now. And I'm very pro-gay.
Starting point is 01:04:16 I'm very pro-trans. I'm very pro-all-that stuff. And I'm writing a story and none of them are in it because I have no, they don't fit the story. And I'm not trying to shove something. I would have to shoehorn them in. And I agree that that's happened. I totally agree that that's happened. Sometimes, sometimes a show or a person will be like, they'll try to shoehorn in something for political point, sure.
Starting point is 01:04:38 But like, for the most part, no. Like, for the most part, no, not at all. Dude, there wasn't even a fucking gay. the only gay relationship in this season of White Lotus was two brothers jacking each other off. You know what I mean? All right. Well, no, no, spoilers. Oh, sorry.
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