wellRED podcast - Jimmy Swaggart Is Dead, Diddy is Screwed, We Are All Gonna Die!

Episode Date: July 2, 2025

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Starting point is 00:03:05 And we thank them for sponsoring this episode of the podcast. They're the... It's good. Jimmy Swaggart died, so... Yep. They're the liberal red next day like
Starting point is 00:03:19 cornbread but sex. They care way too much but don't give a fuck. That makes some people upset But they got three big old dicks that you can suck That's what I heard What are you, uh, what, like, where are you at on? I mean, obviously, I know he don't hit.
Starting point is 00:03:42 You mean like in the, like, Mount Rushmore of televangelist, where does Jimmy Swagger it fall? I guess so, yeah. I feel like, um, I mean, obviously none of them hit for me. But if you're having to like rank them in terms of, you know, their greatness to the genre, I mean, Swaggart's up there, and I think that, like, his name alone is one of the best ones. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:04:05 Like, Jimmy Swaggart, that to me sounds like if I was to make up a televangelist, I would have done, I would have gone with Jimmy Swaggart. You know what I mean? What about you, Drew? I mean, it's close. I don't know if I got him in the top four or not. I'm thinking about it. I mean, if we count Billy Graham, he's obviously the goat. You know, he was sort of a different thing.
Starting point is 00:04:27 I think it's Graham Oldstein, Tammy Faye, and then it honestly might be Benny Henn. Yeah, Benny Hens up there. T.D. Jakes is a sleeper. He's OLA, outside of L.J.C.C.C. Definitely on the list. Didn't the hilariously named Oral Roberts basically invent prosperity gospel, though? And he's got a college named after him. That's what I... He's not a televangelist, though. Isn't that what we're doing? Well, I guess, but he's kind of predates that a little bit, don't? He's like, He's such an OG that he only know this because, yeah, I fall well.
Starting point is 00:05:01 I only know that about oral Roberts because I'm about to be in Tulsa again and a couple. I think he's from Tulsa or somewhere in Oklahoma. And I went there and found that out. And so I Googled it to learn about him or whatever to see if I could, you know, anything to say. And that's how I found that shit out about him. I didn't even know that stuff. But he, I remember I read, he said that he was struggling early as a preacher and all this stuff.
Starting point is 00:05:25 and he prayed to God and, you know, asked him what to do or whatever and said, and I'm paraphrasing, but that a 100-foot-tall vision of Jesus came to him and said, again, paraphrasing, stunt on these hoes. That's what the 100-foot-tall Jesus told. I spake unto thee, my child, stunt on these hose. And he went and got, this part is true. I mean, he did say he had that vision. And also he then went and bought and he couldn't afford it, bought a brand new Buick.
Starting point is 00:05:59 And it's back when Buick's hit, like a big hit in Buick. And he said, you know, the Lord blessed him for that. And he knew he was on the righteous and true path. And that was the beginning of prosperity gospel forevermore. I always thought it was funny too. I'm sure y'all probably had this. But like, you know, he wanted to spread his gospel far and wide. And he had a huge ego and all that wanted to be famous.
Starting point is 00:06:20 And it's like, on the one hand, I bet if he'd known that like, you know, kids in the backwater of Salina, Tennessee, 50 years later, were wearing hats that had his name on them. Right. Or whatever. They would have, he would have been very excited, but maybe less so if he knew that they were exclusively wearing those hats for, you know, blowjob joke purposes. Oral, oral Robertson, uh, Moorhead State. Morehead's, obviously. People had a lot of those hats back in my day when they found out about those places because they sound like, you know, wiener jokes.
Starting point is 00:06:53 man yeah i think so he's definitely up i mean you know when it's like in comedy like uh go ahead i don't think oral can be on it okay because he wasn't actually on tv well it's to me it's like walk with me on this one it's like ben franklin or somebody it's like okay the dude was too he literally wasn't a president so we can't put him on mount rushmore right i think for me it's like yeah without oral roberts the mount rushmore of telemarketers doesn't exist but he wasn't a telemark, sorry, televangelist. I said telemark because I literally just got a spam call. Well, there's also, there's also like, you know,
Starting point is 00:07:33 I can't remember the dude's name, which sucks because I've read, I've read the book The Comedians a thousand times, and Cliff talks about the dude who basically, we've decided, like he kind of invented stand-up, like he was doing vaudeville, and then he just started being a monologist, and it's like, you go, well, stand-up wouldn't exist without that person, but, like, there's no way he's better than Bill Burr. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:07:54 So it doesn't really matter. But like I feel like if you're going to go like the ones that have the most name recognition that just, you know, get the people going. You probably got Swagger, Jimmy Swagger, Jerry Falwell. And I'm going to obviously not just to be woke, but I got to throw a black guy in there just because the name is great. Creflow dollar. That's one of the most fire names in the history of the world. And then go ahead. I was just say we're doing numbers.
Starting point is 00:08:21 Is TDJ is bigger than Creflo? Oh, yeah, for sure. T.D. Jakes is definitely bigger than Creflo. And then again, Billy Graham was not really a televangelist. Like, as it, I'm just like, as we know them now, like, Billy Graham was more, he would do like these revivals. And I'm not saying that they wouldn't put them on TV, but he didn't have, like, a church that he was there every, every week. And also, he was, like, respected by presidents and kings, whereas I don't think, like, I don't think any of these other motherfuckers. were like Pat Robertson and shit, you know? I don't know, man.
Starting point is 00:08:59 Who's broadcasts and where I think I think you need to put some respect on Billy Graham's name. Then he's the goat. I mean, then he's without question the goat. But like Pat Robertson, he was doing more small screen stuff, I'd say, but like he was in everybody's home. He got syndicated. You know what I mean? The 700 Club definitely an argument for Pat. And I think Fallwell is the good one too. I just, I don't think Swagger's on my
Starting point is 00:09:23 top four. I mean, we're literally talking about the top four that's got to be partially named recognition, partially numbers they did. Yeah. I mean, it's going to be mostly name recognition, right? Because that's kind of the point.
Starting point is 00:09:39 I realize that if you do Mount Rushmore, like in sports, you're arguing over who's the best, not who's the most famous. But fame is a big part of it. It's a big part of it. They couldn't possibly be there if they weren't super famous. I'm going to add Falwell to mine. I'm going to go, I'm going to go Graham Falwell, Tammy Faye.
Starting point is 00:10:00 Mm-hmm. But see, that's interesting putting Tammy Faye up there because she was, you know, she's sort of like the, I mean, she's like a Scotty Pippin or Steve Kerr. She's got a musical. Right, yeah, that's true. I mean, yeah, she is definitely a five-point dumbass. But then I think most evil. Kenneth Copeland?
Starting point is 00:10:20 Kenneth Copeland, yeah. Kenneth Copeland is like the Bill Lambere of Televangelist. you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't even believe in demons, but he, like, literally looks like an actual demon or like he's possessed, but it's comical how cartoonishly evil his, like, face be and the faces that he makes, like, it's wild.
Starting point is 00:10:40 Benny Hinn's sort of Larry Bird because he's a fucking, he's a brown feller who's also Canadian who's made it in this game. You know what I mean? I really like that analogy. Thank you. Can I say, too, as far as the demons? I believe in, he's a,
Starting point is 00:10:56 demon. And I believe in demons the way I believe in like, well, sociopaths. You know that's not a word anymore? I did not know that. Yeah, so it's not in the... What do you say emotionally, emotionally handicapped or whatever?
Starting point is 00:11:11 Well, no, they're psychopaths. And then if they don't qualify for psychopaths, most people, psychologists now put on the personality spectrum disorder of either narcissists. Yeah, NPD. Or what's the other one? Borderline. BPD. Borderline.
Starting point is 00:11:26 Borderline, thank you. So my point is, I don't, I no longer, I know that sociopaths aren't real because the people who make those words up decided it's not a thing anymore, but still believe in them. Those are sociopaths. They've done that. Right. So like, demons aren't real, but I knew what the people who believed in that meant. Yeah. He's that.
Starting point is 00:11:46 Yes. Yeah. He is that. Dude, that video of him when that lady asked him about his plane, like, I, I've watched it a bunch and like, I'm, it's like his eyes. go black dog like there's there's a change in him when that happens you know i do also i think he's a psychopath i do think i think he's a psychopath i think that like dude i mean i think billy graham might have been a sweet dude maybe i don't fucking know a lot of people like him but like i feel like to get to this level with what these dudes do and the fucking cognitive dissonance that you have to have but also
Starting point is 00:12:19 like these do a lot of these dudes aren't dummies so like i i just think you have to be a borderline psychopath to hit that hard in doing this. You know what I mean? Like, we know how hard it is to hit real hard as like an actor or comedian, but like, do you got to do a different level in this? Because, again, you're sitting there preaching about Jesus, while you got a billion dollar jet or whatever, knowing that that's fucking bullshit. Yeah, but that's part of the brilliance of, like, Oral Roberts and the ones that came up with
Starting point is 00:12:48 and figured out how it hits. That's why I said they're smart, yeah. It like, you know, it really exploits. what is apparently a fundamental characteristic of the American populace, you know, which is like, it's telling predominantly Christian, you know, Americans that like, no, no, like Jesus wants you to hit. Like, there's never been a group of people, generally speaking, who were more open to that concept than Americans in the past 100 years or so or whatever, like American desperately, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:21 the idea, because it's like they want to believe in Jesus, but they want to also. hit and people that are keep real about Jesus right well you know he wasn't really down with that and I'm like that's how you got like you know supply side you know Reagan Jesus that you know everybody loves so much man
Starting point is 00:13:38 it was the undeniable on what's the word I'm looking for inevitable conclusion of manifest destiny yeah manifest destiny is like God wants you to have this country and these resources because you're white and Christian
Starting point is 00:13:54 And it was America's version of, I mean, I genuinely didn't mean to get into this, but I don't care that I am, of like what's going on in Israel right now of like God's chosen people. It was the American version, Manifest Destiny was the American version of you are the chosen people. Well, that kind of had to go there. Like we had to give up Christianity entirely or morphed into that, which in saying that still, it was like genius to be the first one to exploit that. dude i've been seeing some people you know because of like our our immigration uh fiasco we got going on i've seen people uh when asked about you know people make the the notion of like well you know we're all immigrants we all came here and stole the indians land and now i'm starting to see people literally not not trying to be ironic at all they're like i don't understand why people keep saying
Starting point is 00:14:46 we stole the indians land there's a huge difference between stealing something and conquering it we conquered it. And I'm like, well, dude, I could make the argument that Bonnie and Clyde conquered some banks. You know what I mean? So like, what's the fucking, what's the fucking difference? It's like, no, it's not stealing so long as you murder everybody when you do it. Yeah, well, I mean, they just, they need some kind of justification for that very apparent hypocrisy. So I guess that's just what they've landed on. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, I just don't see. Because what else is there? I just don't see why you can't be like, yeah, that was really wrong that those people did that. But we're here now.
Starting point is 00:15:24 We didn't do it. And we're here and we got to live. And so, you know, we'll try the, like, I don't see why you have to. Well, they want to be able to ship out their, like, children and stuff, too. I mean, the immigrants' children, you know, people that were brought here as babies or kids or whatever. They also want to be able to send them away. So, you know, they also need desperately to believe in a myth that serves their own current worldview. I think it's something that keeps coming up for me.
Starting point is 00:15:52 it came up to me weirdly with my own brother who was kind of like making fun of this guy who now that he's out still wants to be involved in some of the white supremacy gang stuff he's like what was this dude on about and I'm like you think people don't believe in stuff like just because you didn't so I'm getting at that with this of like they need to believe that their ancestors were good I don't know why I don't know why it bothers them so, but they believed in their whole life and their heart that America is the greatest country on earth and that its foundation was laid through righteous indignation towards British monarchy and evil and nothing else. And so that's why they pretend like slavery wasn't bad or didn't happen in some cases. And that's all this is too, in my opinion. It's like conquering and stealing. What's the difference?
Starting point is 00:16:49 I've decided one's good. One's good. I've decided one's acceptable. Because in a conquering, you know, you had a choice. Like stealing, it's like, it's almost like they're saying, well, stealing's cowardly. You do it in the night. What we did was march in here and, you know, and of course, that's not what happened. I mean, literally our immune system is the only reason it happened the way that it did.
Starting point is 00:17:13 I'm not saying through technology, we wouldn't eventually did it anyway. But as we moved west, there's plenty of writings where everyone was like, I don't know. it seemed like people used to be here. We don't know what happened. We'd already blanketed them to death. It's just so hard for me to wrap my head around the thought process of those people. Because I'll have some of my conservative buddies or whatever. And they're like, oh, you just got white guilt or whatever.
Starting point is 00:17:35 I'm like, dude, no, I don't feel guilty at all. Like, I don't feel guilty. I understand. Right. But I'm like, I under. Every time someone throws white guilt at you, they would feel it if they believe what you believe. Of course. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:48 Because like, I can't believe it. I'm like I'm white. I'm very like, I mean, this could sound bad if you just clipped it out. Like, I'm thankful for that. Obviously, if you look around, it's definitely the better one to be, right? But I didn't choose it. And I do my best to not, uh, uh, not acknowledge the fact that it is an advantage. And I feel that's the part they're going to clip out, Corey. I do my best not to acknowledge it. Well, well, well, I think it's rude not to. Like if you go, the people that go, the people that go, oh, no, there's no such things. is why I know what I'm saying. You said you don't acknowledge that it's true.
Starting point is 00:18:24 Oh, right, right, right. My bad. But like, I just don't get why. Like, it's so easy for me to be like, hey, man, the people that looked like me back in the day did some really shitty stuff. I wasn't there. I just happened to be born, you know, but like, I'm not going to feel bad, but thinking, but like going so far as to say, there's no advantage to this.
Starting point is 00:18:44 And like, I don't know. It's fucking crazy. Like, yeah, you're right. They're the ones that feel bad. and they're projecting. Yeah, man. That's all the internet is. It's just projection.
Starting point is 00:18:55 My favorite one lately is, you know, you just support Palestine because it's like hip or cool. And it's like if you listen to those people who are saying that, almost every time if you look at how they've acted on social media, you kind of realize, oh, that's why you would have supported Palestine. And if you ever switch teams, it's why you will. And that's what you're projecting on to me right now. It's all the internet is.
Starting point is 00:19:19 It's not great. Anyway, thanks everyone for following us. Well, I used to circling back to the preacher stuff a little bit, I guess. I used to think that about, and we've talked about it before too, about like, you know, Christians, when they would say to me over the years, things like, well, you know, but without the Bible, you know, how do you know not to like lie, steal, rape, kill people, all this stuff, whatever? And I was always like, I just, because you just don't, like you, because that, those. things are bad. Like, just the golden, I don't want to be raped and killed, so I'm not going to rape and kill somebody else.
Starting point is 00:19:55 Like, I don't need the Bible to tell me that. And I always thought it's like, does that imply that if you didn't have the Bible telling you that, then you would do those things? But I know, and it does seem to imply that, but I've heard reformed, Christians or whatever you want to call them over the years of shit, say, say things like, you know, that was just the thing they'd always been told as a Christian growing up their whole life, that that's how it worked or whatever. and that they like remembered a moment where it occurred to them, you know, like, oh, right.
Starting point is 00:20:25 You know, I guess you don't have. They just never really questioned that it worked that way. And then one day they were like, oh, yeah, I guess you don't have to be told by God not to do those things. You just don't do them. So it's like, you know, maybe they're not all just temporarily restrained rapist, murderers or anything, Christian. I mean, yeah, I don't think that. But the people who's the people who use that. is an argument it feels like they are you know what I mean the people who say it that loud it's like
Starting point is 00:20:53 damn it sounds like you really want to you know me and Andy me and Andy were actually talking about psychopaths the other day don't worry about why but there's an interesting thing on reddit if Roscoe kill a bird no there's an interesting thing on reddit though where people will go in there and claim to be that or claim to be they used to claim to be sociopaths and then they'd be like ask me anything and there's like an interesting aspect of that with like there are people who claim that they have none of that, that they're psychopass, they have no guilt, they have no shame, they don't care.
Starting point is 00:21:22 And they're like, I don't kill because I don't want, like, it just doesn't, I wouldn't feel bad if I did it, but I don't want to do it. It's messy. I might get in trouble, like, et cetera, et cetera. And I think that's more akin to what
Starting point is 00:21:36 those people have probably, some of them deep in their heart of hearts, think, Tray, or feel is like, no, but the things I do want to do, I need a book. to tell me not to. So, no, I wouldn't be raping and killing, but I'd be doing, I'd be stealing. Like, the thing, like, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:21:52 If it weren't for the book, yeah, they do. But I'd say with it, it's because of the law in America, not the Bible. Like, if there wasn't a law against stealing, it was only in the Bible, then they would do it. You know what I mean? Fair. Yeah. Because there's plenty. We sin all the time.
Starting point is 00:22:09 Like, people, like Christians, they'll, in one breath, they'll say every sin is the same. but then the other is like, well, as long as it wasn't the Ten Commandments, you're good. And it's like, no, you do all the other sins that the Bible tells you not to do. So, like, what's the fucking difference? It's just like with every, it's like so many people. It's like, you know, the only good abortion is my abortion. Like hardcore pro-life, you know, women and stuff for people that pay for abortions for their rich daughters and shit. But that's the only justified.
Starting point is 00:22:36 People that are on food stamps, like, I need my food stamps. I'm not a lazy piece of shit. It's like that with, you know, the sins you're talking about. like, well, my sins are like, I can rationalize them. Those are justified. But other people are going to hell. Right. Raw.
Starting point is 00:22:52 Yeah. Raw. But you're talking about people going on Reddit, be like, I'm a psychopaths, and here's how I handle it. You guys both, y'all both watch the TV show The Expans. Yes. I haven't finished it, but yes, I love it. Read the books, too, I did.
Starting point is 00:23:06 And the, uh, the character, one of my all-time favorite characters in all the fiction is from that series. And it's Amos, because Amos, his whole thing is he, He's like, he's a sociopath or psychopath, whatever, but he knows it and he knows that that isn't good. So he like has to have a moral center to guide him. Like he keeps himself around good people because he understands that about himself and he wants to be good, but he can't help that he's broken and he knows he's broken all
Starting point is 00:23:33 shit. It's just, it's just brilliant. I just fucking love that. The actor rules too. The act, West Chatham or Chatham, I'm not sure how he says it, but he's the fucking shit. That performance is all time. goaded for me as the kids say but I don't know
Starting point is 00:23:47 I assume there's at least some of them like that in real life maybe who know they have that and like want to be better yeah I think they're not I think they're not psychopass I think they're probably BPD or another thing but there's definitely people like that I mean according to unless there's just like people who are cosplay as that on Reddit like you can find people who like claim that
Starting point is 00:24:11 and they'll say things like well I'm motivated by the notion. Like it, they're almost like, sometimes I think I'm just a more honest person. Like, I'm trying to be good because it gets me stuff. It gets people I admire to like want to fuck with me.
Starting point is 00:24:26 And then you go, well, damn, is that kind of how a lot of us, like, do you know what I mean? Like, where's that line of like,
Starting point is 00:24:31 right? I just want to kind of be honest versus, well, if I lie and cool, good people find out, they won't fuck with me, you know? Right.
Starting point is 00:24:41 I'm just, I just, I want to be a good person because it seems like in society that's what's revered. And it's like, well, however you get there, you know. Yeah, but that's even seems less and less true now. Right. That's very, you're very correct.
Starting point is 00:24:54 Well, that's bad. That's very bad. No, I know. Yeah. Yeah. That's kind of like a place I'm at, like a meltdown I'm having. I don't know how to explain what I'm trying to say with our continued support of Israel where, well, you guys saw it because it was in the thread this morning, me and Smart Marker going back and forth.
Starting point is 00:25:10 And he's like, yeah, this is for resources. but every genocide has been for resources. And I'm like, well, it seems like we used to keep three degrees separation between us and the abject murder. And now we're not doing that, and that's got to be worse. Like, there was a certain hypocrisy to overthrowing and planting coups via the CIA and killing a bunch of people in Third World South America for their oil. And that's evil. And I'm not backing off from that. It seems like, though, trying to hide that was,
Starting point is 00:25:43 at the very least good for numbers. You know, well, we're going to kill less if we have to cover it up. Because it, you know, even if it's still is evil and hypocritical, by having to cover it up,
Starting point is 00:25:55 that takes resources and effort. If we don't cover it up anymore, we just say, uh, nah, it's not what you think. That's like way less energy. Well,
Starting point is 00:26:04 because by covering it up, the insinuation was like, we know that the majority of the people who elect us will not like this. And now they're like, actually the majority of people who elect us this hit for them. Well, to be fair, to be completely fair,
Starting point is 00:26:17 I mean, look, don't be wrong. I'm all moral decay, be happening for sure. But like this particular genocide, there are a lot of other, obviously, like, mitigating factors to it that make people more inclined to be on board with it. There's the whole, like, Christian end times fucking
Starting point is 00:26:33 shit where it's like this hits for them that it's happening over there. There's, ever since 9-11, the Islamophobia and stuff in this country where it's like people just don't, people are just kind of on board with you know, doing whatever over there where all the Muslims are at because they want to kill all us, you know, we're told. So fuck them.
Starting point is 00:26:50 Like there's a lot of, so it's like, it's not your just garden variety genocide. It could be any genocide in Americans still might not give a fuck. But with this one, there's like other elements to it that make Americans like want to get down with it, you know, or more. Or at the very least not care. Yeah, right. Or more. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:08 Yeah, exactly. So it's just a perfect storm of, uh, you know. shitty genocidal factors, I guess. I don't know. Yeah, genocide don't hit and we've said it. I guess I'm just saying that like making evil people
Starting point is 00:27:23 pretend to be good is still a good thing. Yeah, we definitely lost that. Oh, dude, like, on whatever scale we're talking about that is like the fact that they just have to spend energy tricking us is good. Right. Like the whole racism thing with Trump and all that, like for you know, for most
Starting point is 00:27:39 of our younger lives, people, plenty of people were super racist, but They, like, knew they had to pretend not to be in public, or they'd be ostracized because where the society wouldn't stand for that. And now they know that that isn't. In fact, they'll be celebrated for, you know, being that way publicly, especially on the internet and stuff. So, and that's led more people to do it because they want to hit on the internet, too.
Starting point is 00:28:02 So it's like propagating and spreading now. And it's, yeah, it's a very, very, very bad thing that I don't know the way out of. I sent y'all one of these things, this fucking piece of shit, Benny Johnson put but there was another one I didn't and I wanted to mention that guy she would man what he was there at which I just found out about alligator alcatraz today and it was because I was on the internet and saw him he's there at the grand opening and they're treating it like it's a fucking kid rock bar and grill it's like he's there all the all your you know everybody from the peanut gallery's there and they're all tweeting and stuff and it's like this celebration and he
Starting point is 00:28:38 he does this video where he shows this hat that he got for alligator alcatraz he's like this And he said, this prison has merch. How awesome is that? And I've, dude, there's been a lot of, like, obviously, this whole thing is sickening. And I'm not saying that this is particularly more sickening than anything. But for some reason, this is the one that really actually made me physically sick to my stomach and finally be like, oh, God. Like, this is, how the fuck do you, are you posting a picture of prison merch and thinking somehow, history is going to shine great on me? This is going to look awesome.
Starting point is 00:29:13 I mean, ice itself posted an AI image of alligators wearing cute little ice hats. And it sounds like, these are our new, welcome our new deputies, everybody, the alligator. And so that's them being like, doesn't it hit that maybe alligators will eat people that we've, we forcibly remove their homes and take it? They're like, sell up. Well, Helen, even this morning, like Trump got asked about. So are you, is the implication that people might get eaten by these alligators? He's like, well, you never know.
Starting point is 00:29:44 Maybe it's like snakes are fast, alligators, you know, we got to teach them out of run. You run like, you don't run like this. You run like you do the serpentine thing or whatever. And it's like, so I mean, yeah, they just, it would hit for them to, for Mexicans to get eaten by alligators, apparently. And just the ones that are women and children, you know. Right.
Starting point is 00:30:03 To be a little dark about that, I saw that. I found Trump still oddly refreshing. Oh, he's hilarious. Well, not just, I don't mean it was funny in this. particular instance. He has been very funny before. I didn't think that was funny. It was more like well kind of what you were saying, Trey. It's like the flip side of that coin about how you used to have to pretend. I was so, I'm so sick of people who just want blood who were just like pining for torture and evil to say like security and justice and law and order and safety. And it's like
Starting point is 00:30:42 Trump's like, you know how we make America great. We get a fucking gator to chase a Mexican and put that on TV. And it's like, weirdly refreshing that he doesn't even hide that. But it's weirdly refreshing to them because they felt shackled by the inability to say, I want a fucking gator to eat a Mexican. And they've had to say all these words like safety, border control, whatever, whatever, whatever. That's why they like him. They're like, God damn, that's what I've always wanted to say.
Starting point is 00:31:12 and we should kill all those people. No, I agree with you. I agree with you in so many regards. Like the other day, for instance, when, you know, Trump was asked on like the White House lawn, he was like, you know, what's the deal with Gaza? What's going on over there? And I'm paraphrasing, but he said something.
Starting point is 00:31:28 He's like, you know, you've got these countries that have been fighting for years. And frankly, they don't know what the fuck they're doing. And like, a lot of people blew up over that. And I was like, honestly, that's the best thing he could have said, in my opinion. Like, that was not that bad because I would, like, to me, that's how you should be talking about this situation instead of like,
Starting point is 00:31:45 the Democrats are like, what language? I was like, yeah, but at least he said, I mean, like, that's how it be. He didn't just go, this is unconscionable. You know what I mean? It's like, I don't like the guy, but like, I ain't mad that he said these countries don't know what the fuck they're doing. That's the least of his crimes. Well, what we're saying is he's telling his truth.
Starting point is 00:32:03 Right. Right. Democrats are owned by APEC and they're desperate for any way to critique him without losing that money. Right. Everyone should die, including me. I hope they dropped the bomb. Y'all, summer is here, and that means more sun, more light, more time to do all the things that you couldn't do in the winter.
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Starting point is 00:34:07 Tell them how good it is, right there. Right there. Speaking of Trump, I wanted to bring something up to y'all real quick, just asked if you'd heard about it because it got passed around on TikTok and stuff,
Starting point is 00:34:22 one of my patrons pointed out to me. And it's just like, y'all ever heard that story about, it's true, about how there was like a novelist in the early 1900s who put out this little novella about a ocean liner
Starting point is 00:34:34 called The Titan, which was Smith said to be unsinkable, and now these rich people on it, and it hit an iceberg, and it sunk, and that was like two years later, Titanic happened. Have you all heard the,
Starting point is 00:34:43 it's not new. It's been around for a couple years, but that, but for Trump. The medicine man, Trump one. Yeah, an author from the early 19,
Starting point is 00:34:52 late 1800s, early 1900s called Ingersoll Lockwood. Oh, yeah. Who wrote, who wrote the, uh, Barron Trump novels.
Starting point is 00:35:00 Uh, it was literally the character's name. Um, and it was like he was, uh, baron Trump was like this, little rapscallion, right? He got into all these misadventures and stuff and said that he lived in a gigantic building
Starting point is 00:35:15 named after himself. He often bragged about his massive brain and he had a pon shant for making personalized insults for people he didn't like, right? If I can sleep a Joe and Meatball Ron and all that. And it said, and obviously, you know, dumb ass Ron Bolton. Yeah. In the 80s, Trump, the pseudonym he used was John Barron. He later named his son, Baron Trump.
Starting point is 00:35:41 And then that same author wrote another novel that doesn't have the Baron Trump character in it, but it's another novel by the same author from the same period called The Last President, in which New York City is riven by protest following the shocking victory in a presidential election of a populist candidate who later brings on the downfall of the American repubes. public. That's good. So, yeah. And so, you know, the way the internet be and all that stuff, apparently what some
Starting point is 00:36:11 people have done, to me, it's just like that story about the book, that, that Titanic book I said earlier where it's like, that's wild, you know, ain't that wild? I'm a good episode, you know, and I don't really have anything else to say about it, but like people on the internet, because this is, it's becoming even more so on the left now to it's like everyone has to make everything a fucking like conspiracy theory all the time or whatever, you know. And with this one, it's apparent that, you know, the Trump family, that they literally have access to an actual time machine. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:42 That they are, you know, time travelers. And I don't know, you know, the motivations or whatever, what they're, you know, where they're going when they get finished here. They don't look like a catcher's mitt. Yeah, no shit. Nobody broke Jesse Owen's leg before the Olympics. You know what I mean? Maybe they try. There was a, this is not that, but it's a similar thing.
Starting point is 00:37:04 there was an episode of, I think it was either Twilight Zone or Outer Limits. I get the episodes confused sometimes because they're very similar. Both hit real hard. And it was like in the Old West, this this dude named Trump comes to the, comes to the city. And I think he was actually from like the East Coast or whatever. And everyone fucking loves him. And he sells him this like tonic and it ends up being snake oil or whatever and like hypnotizes and kills them all or some shit like that. There's a couple things like that.
Starting point is 00:37:32 But again, yeah. Like with the whole, go ahead. Here's the list of things the Simpsons have predicted. Right. Yeah. President Trump, 2000. Yeah. They had Trump served president in 2016 and then in 2021 for whatever reason.
Starting point is 00:37:52 Right. Disney buying Fox. Faulty voting machines. The Siegfried and Roy Tiger attack. All right, that one. I don't know why that's on the list. We all predicted that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:06 Right. that tiger went tiger the Ebola outbreak the higgs boston the horse meat scandal yeah nice the horse meat scandal whatever that is the nsa scandal a fiefa scandal there's a lot more but some of them i'm just got a list and the list it's like unclear to me what they mean apparently it predicted camilla harris running somehow well right now there's well it's been wrapped up i think but there was a controversy in Hollywood, like very, very recently. There's a new horror movie coming out with Dave Franco and Allison Bree called Together. And from the like posters and stuff, it looks like these two love.
Starting point is 00:38:53 It's like a body horror movie where two people start to get fused together into like a mutant beast thing or whatever. I don't know. But anyway, those two together, I'd pay a lot of money to see them fused. So apparently, shortly after the marketing stuff for this came out, a guy who had made a movie before that didn't get, it was like a little indie horror that didn't get seen came out publicly and I don't blame him in retrospect, but apparently
Starting point is 00:39:19 I don't remember the name of the other movie from like 2020 or 2021 or something like that, but there was another what very micro budget indie horror movie with literally that exact same premise. Not only that, but they
Starting point is 00:39:34 that script at that time got offered to Dave Franco and Allison brief. for the leads, right? And they didn't do it then. And apparently in a climactic part of the movie, they both those movies,
Starting point is 00:39:51 because the new one, well, I was going to say it's in the script, but it's filmed. It's about to come out now. So people have seen it. But they literally use the same obscure spice girls song, apparently, from like 30 years ago, right?
Starting point is 00:40:05 The exact same song at basically the same point in the movie. And so this dude, you know, they have stolen this from me, you know, like they saw it, whatever. And, but it's been proven since because the guy, the guy who wrote this one, he originally wrote the script because it takes fucking forever to get anything made, even if you ever do. He originally wrote the script and registered it with the WGA. So he has proof that he wrote the script in this iteration, like two years before that guy
Starting point is 00:40:35 wrote the other one. So he couldn't have possibly stolen it from him, but it's still that similar and like that many and it's like... I'm a little suspect of the proof, man. Well, I mean, I don't think the WG... This dude, it's not like he's like a big play. If the WGA was like fabricating shit to exonerate this dude falsely or whatever, I mean, that'd be a pretty bad look for one of the biggest unions in Hollywood.
Starting point is 00:40:58 Like, they were a weird thing to do it on. First of all, how would they get caught? And it wouldn't be for him. It'd be for money coming from somebody else now that the movie's already made. See, but now I'm what you're saying. Everyone's a conspiracy theorist. But my... Like, I have three, there's two parts of this theory,
Starting point is 00:41:13 and then there's a separate theory. So it's that, in my mind, or it could just be like, somebody went in and did that. Like, what's their system? Right. Yeah, for registering things, yeah, I don't know. Yeah, dude, I've seen Mr. Robot.
Starting point is 00:41:29 You can get into stuff. I mean, that's a much simpler evils on one side. It's just like, you know what I mean? Get a hacker to go in there. There is a script from this dude, because he's been around forever, you know, you go in there and you change what was registered.
Starting point is 00:41:45 Plug that one in. Yeah. And then my other one is, this dude stole it, the guy who, the hit dog's hollering. He stole it and was like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:41:54 but I stole it so long ago. Maybe I can get away with it. Right. No, that did, yeah, but imagine though if you're that guy and you didn't, but then people started to think that. Like you, you were convinced you had your idea stolen
Starting point is 00:42:05 and it's been a much hitting, this movie's probably, it's definitely going to be much bigger. it's getting rave reviews and all this stuff. And seeing that if you're that other guy, but then also if it ended up people being like, actually, I think this motherfucker is the one who stole it. And you get, like, I would lose my mind.
Starting point is 00:42:21 Yeah, you talk about it to be a movie. That has happened to me on a smaller level with jokes, at least twice. I've been accused of stealing my own joke. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I mean, I've been accused of stealing my whole, like, thing. Like my, you know. Right.
Starting point is 00:42:40 It's happened to me with just like memes. But yeah, right. Yeah, oh God, I would lose my fucking absolute mind. I did. That does sound good though. I like body horror movies and Allison Bree's hot as fuck. So I fucking, I don't, I have no ill feelings towards Dave Franco as a person, but as a concept, that whole thing just disgust me. Hey, there's a volatility to his talented, more talented and hotter brother.
Starting point is 00:43:09 Let's just take Dave. there's no one else around. I cannot believe Dave Franco. He's fine. He's the most fine motherfucker that's ever been fine. And again, no ill will towards him. I just, it's such to me obvious nepotism and name recognition. You can tell me there's not someone hotter and a better actor than Dave Franco who do that.
Starting point is 00:43:30 But now, in this particular, in this particular, I've never seen Dave Franco in a serious role. So I don't know. But like in the comedies he's been in stuff, I've always enjoyed him. but yeah, you might be right. I've never really thought of him as anything other than just like a player in the Jonah Hill world. I'm not suggesting he's bad. Are you telling me you've seen him in any role and thought this dude should be opposite Allison fucking Breed? No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:43:53 No, that's not what I'm saying. I agree with you now that I, like now that I'm thinking about him in a leading role, I feel like. But every time he's been in like a Seth Rogen vehicle, I have enjoyed him. But yeah, no, I'm with you. I want to be very clear on that. I also didn't really care for James Franco in serious stuff. Like I also just wanted him next to Seth Rogen too. Like both Franco's, I kind of need just next to Rogan.
Starting point is 00:44:16 That's kind of what I want them to do is just be near him. But yeah, no, I mean, I agree with you. Holly was trying to put him next to the other Rogan. I think Dave Franco is a real burgeoning Casey Affleck. That's what I think. Hey, that's fine. That's fine. That's fine.
Starting point is 00:44:30 Future Academy Award winner. That's okay. Casey Affleck did win an Academy Award at some point, right? Casey Huffle did for me. No, he's great. Yeah, I know. That I was being a smart ass. Casey,
Starting point is 00:44:39 like, it's like, imagine if Ben Affleck had that, we had all that talent. I put it in an ugly dude, so it's believable that he's a whiny piece of shit. Dude. I mean, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:48 I mean, yeah. I know Casey did some horrible things, allegedly, but he is a fucking. Oh, that's right. I did,
Starting point is 00:44:55 but I'd forgotten. It's weird how some people like, it just, Shannon Sharp, where did that go? Sticks and other times it doesn't. For no, I say no apparent reason,
Starting point is 00:45:04 but is it, I was going to say, does it come down to like, the right publicist or PR, team or whatever work. But it's like all these people are super rich. So why wouldn't they all have anything?
Starting point is 00:45:14 Why wouldn't they all have the good team if it's that? Sometimes it's look, man. So the Shannon Sharp thing, I'm going to explain that from a lawyer's perspective. One of two things happened. She was exaggerating, clipping, you know, clipping one part. It was some kind of kink thing and she's lying. She just wanted money. She got the money and now it's gone.
Starting point is 00:45:32 Or she was telling the truth, but she also just wanted the money. She got the money. Right. It's gone. Then sometimes you run up to a victim, you know, I don't want to frame it that way because it sounds like the perpetrator is the victim. Sometimes a victim is like, screw that. I don't want it to go away.
Starting point is 00:45:46 So I think it's just luck, man. Right. But then there's people like fucking, uh, Indian, Randy, who am I trying to think of? I was his and Zahari. Aziz and Zari where it's like, that's just bad luck. Like, maybe some racism. That was timing for him. That was timing.
Starting point is 00:46:03 He was also kind of annoying. I think the people who needed to defend him, the people who would, like the edge lord types were like, nah, fuck that guy. You know what I mean? Yeah, that was unfortunate. Because if I remember correctly, it just seemed like they had a weird date. They had a real weird date where he was like very weird and gross and aggressive.
Starting point is 00:46:21 I've said this before on this podcast, so we don't have to rehash it. His problem to me, at least partially, was his whole brand. He literally had just put out a book called Dating as a Feminist. And so this kind of guess is what I was just saying. The people who would defend him and what he did on that date weren't fans
Starting point is 00:46:37 of his. Right. Yeah. fans turned on him because he had built this thing. Betrayed them. That's also what happened. I mean, obviously, much lower scale, but he had a little moment at the time,
Starting point is 00:46:47 but that's what happened to all, uh, Kielstein. Jamie Kills was a similar thing. You know, he, uh, I don't even remember exactly what all the allegations were with him or whatever,
Starting point is 00:46:54 but when it happened, it was like 10 times worse because his whole thing was not doing that, you know, being a super woke feminist and shit. And that was his entire following. So those people, of course, and that was that.
Starting point is 00:47:10 And then like the legions of skank fans were like, fuck that. No, yeah, I don't blame me. Drew, speaking of you being a lawyer and stuff, I did want to ask you this because I just saw this thing in the Diddy trial. And I don't know what to make of it. So I wanted you to know. The headline is Diddy's trial takes dramatic turn two hours into deliberations as jury sends note to judge about a disobedient juror.
Starting point is 00:47:33 So two hours in this is from Yahoo News. So two hours in the process, the judge gets a note. note from the foreman reporting that one of the jurors was unlikely to follow the instructions that the judge had laid out. What in your mind does that say? I'm sure it could be a lot of things. It can be a lot of things. There is someone in there who's vehemently disagreeing with everyone else. Whether or not that is, hey, the judge instructed us to do this this way, and you're saying things like, well, I read on the internet. Right. You know, or someone's just bucking up and this is the foreman's way to try to get them in line.
Starting point is 00:48:12 So that's like the range of, what's definitely happening is one person is going against the group. Whether this foreman is actually reporting behavior that is against the rules, like, guys, please let me just show you what I found on my phone. Right. Which would go against instructions.
Starting point is 00:48:29 Of course. That'd be like the worst one I could think of for all parties, because it would be an instant mistrial. You have to start over. Yeah. Victims would have to go through it again. you know what I mean? And all the way to,
Starting point is 00:48:41 this dude just won't vote the way we want him to vote, and so fuck him. And then in the middle, you know, it's things like, I don't know what all, I haven't followed it. They're very specific jury instructions.
Starting point is 00:48:52 Here's a lighter one. The judge told us to ignore that piece of testimony. And he can't. Because the question was asked him properly. There was an objection. It was sustained. Well, he referenced it.
Starting point is 00:49:04 Right. And he's like, I don't like that the judge told us not to, worry about that. That makes me uncomfortable. Don't y'all think? And then this, you know, you got to snitch from the foreman, which, you know, depending on how you look at it is a good or a bad thing. Okay.
Starting point is 00:49:17 Well, all right. Like, is there any scenario where it's like, oh, did these people got to this motherfucker? Like, is that a thing? Okay. Because that's where my, like, that's where my conspiratorial brain immediately went like, oh, diddy's people got to him. But then you're saying it like that, it's like, well, Occam's razor, it's probably just what you said.
Starting point is 00:49:34 Well, my brain went to, just because it's a very common thing. Jurers wanting information they're not entitled to. And then a certain type of mine, I have this type of mind. They would never let me on a jury, especially because I'm a lawyer, but even if I wasn't, as soon
Starting point is 00:49:50 as you're told, like, ignore that or don't consider that. A part of these like, what do you mean? Why? I think that every time I see it in a show, they're like, strike that from the record. I'm like, well, you can't strike it from my fucking brain. I heard it. I don't give a good, God, damn, whether they asked it wrong. Lawyers know
Starting point is 00:50:05 that, and they'll pull some shit. I've pulled some shit before. Right. They're like, I know that it'll get, exactly, but it's in their head now. Yeah. And the state will pull it all the fucking time. I mean, the state does it, the state does it when they walk them in. Dude, all right,
Starting point is 00:50:21 Luigi's lawyer, the sweater vest, I can't begin to tell you how smart that is, but also if we're all going to highlight how smart it is, how we all then have to look at when a poor-ass motherfucker gets marched
Starting point is 00:50:37 in an orange with the handcuffs on and the jury sees him like that that that is a signal that he is a criminal, that he has done this, that he is dangerous, that he is scary. So yeah, constantly attorneys are putting stuff in front of
Starting point is 00:50:53 the jury's minds in their, in their brain, you know, sometimes appropriately and sometimes inappropriately. And, you know, you get a guy or a gal who's somewhat aware of that. I could see it, but dude, but it could be wild. I mean, it could be wild. Who gets to make that
Starting point is 00:51:09 decision on whether the perp gets to walk in in street clothes or orange? The judge, I mean, if you raise it as someone on the defense side, it has to be raised. I was about to say because I would never want my person. When we're talking about actual trial,
Starting point is 00:51:26 often usually, like a lot of times we'll see on TV someone getting sentenced. Right, they're arraignment or whatever. And they've already, like, if they're being sentenced, that means they've been found guilty. Sure. But a lot of times the defendant isn't in regular clothes because the attorney has demanded and the judge has correctly decided,
Starting point is 00:51:46 well, I'd hate for that to be the reason. This thing goes all the way to the end and then we get appealed or whatever. Just let the fucker put on some khakis. Yeah. Man, I've, like, nowadays with like, you know, people having cell phones and the internet being such a thing, like, I can't imagine the dramatic shift
Starting point is 00:52:06 in having to keep, your jurors in fucking line like that has to be a goddamn nightmare well yeah i wanted to say two things and i'll touch on that with one of them i wanted to say to going back to what you read i mean it's possible this person's just like won't stop hitting on people that'd be hilarious you know um he gets charged with sexual assault in the fucking jury jury yeah um he's like man can we want you in the mood or what hey can we watch that clip with her titty's out one more time i just want to make sure i I got it. Got it.
Starting point is 00:52:40 The other thing I was going to say, I think I forgot it. Never mind. Oh, you're talking about keeping them in line. We got to keep in mind that a lot of those instructions or questions, the actual question is like, have you seen anything that has caused you to make up your mind or swayed you so far?
Starting point is 00:53:00 Ain't that the whole point of court? My point being like, you can sequester the jurors and you can tell them they're not allowed to have their phones. But unless it's like a real, real, I guess, problematic situation. Like, you're allowed to know that PDD got arrested before you get on PDD's jury. Like, it's not like you, like, we need to find 12 people who have no idea who he is or have no idea what the allegation is. It's a question of, has it actually, like, swayed you so far? Right.
Starting point is 00:53:33 Now, no one can answer that honestly about themselves. Well, also, too, is it like, is there a way where it's like, you know, we really don't want to hung jury because we want to get the fuck out of here. And this guy's giving us problems. You know, we want to wrap this shit up. And this guy's asking too many guys. That was what I was on the other end of that spectrum. Yeah. Was the foreman is going to the judge and saying, this dude's breaking the rules and he's not.
Starting point is 00:53:56 Right. It's very possible. He's just like, I've got an opinion that's not y'alls. Right. Yeah. He didn't do it. or he did because that has to be
Starting point is 00:54:06 surely to God everybody's leaning guilty in this thing yeah and it's definitely like a worry for the state and a lot of times it's the only goal
Starting point is 00:54:17 of the defense is just get a hung jury right yeah right once or twice eventually you're going to get a better deal so like
Starting point is 00:54:25 I don't know what the what are the statistics like off the top of your head you think in like how many times like if there is a mistrust trial blank out of 10, it ends up going the other way because of that. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:54:39 The other way? What do you mean? Well, like, everybody thinks that all this. He's definitely guilty, right? But then they get a mistrial, and then because of the mistrial, shit happens, and they end up getting off the hook. More often than not what happens is that if there's a mistrial, you probably will get a better plea offer than you got before the first trial.
Starting point is 00:54:59 Is that just because they don't want to have to do the whole fucking thing again? I mean, I wouldn't. it, but it's also like, we'll need to do the witnesses. Right. The witnesses, I mean, I would assume a lot of times the suspect or whatever, you know, the person on trial, like, it just feels to be like no one would want to have to go. But I mean, if you feel like, oh, this version of the trial ends with me in jail for life, then you might be amenable to the idea of giving it another go.
Starting point is 00:55:27 But generally speaking, I would imagine most people don't want to do that. So a lot of times there's a better offer tendered. And then in smaller cases, like, dude, in misdemeanor court, if I beat one like that, yeah, it's never coming back. They're not going to refile. They're going to tell themselves as prosecutors, well, he'll be back. This motherfucker won't be able to help himself. In a big profile case like this, I mean, dog, they got to run it back if they can't get
Starting point is 00:55:53 them to take a deal, in my opinion. But they may not feel that way. They may feel the opposite for that exact reason. They may be like, all this profile. all this money we've spent, imagine we get beat again. What do you think a plea deal in this situation looks like? Like what would they be offering, did he? At this point that he would take or just like where do I think their heads are at?
Starting point is 00:56:15 Both what they would offer and maybe what he would take? He would probably take something where he could pretend like he just did it to get out of it and he doesn't have to go to prison. Right. Oh, so you think there's a scenario where he gets a plea deal where he don't go to jail? I'm not saying that that's a scenario. I'm saying that's what I think he would take. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:56:35 It depends on why this got fucked up if it gets fucked up. If they slam dunked it and they just can't figure out why one person was going not guilty, I bet they run it back, dude. Right. I haven't been filing it much, but that makes me think the prosecution is doing an okay job. Because there's nothing the media loves more than the shit on an attorney. It's kind of wild that in the age we live in with, I guess it's because there's 24-hour news and there's so much in the fucking world going on
Starting point is 00:57:02 that, you know, I really haven't heard that many things from the Diddy Trial, whereas, like, OJ, when there was like, let, you know, no fucking cell phone cameras and no Twitter, it's like you heard every day. That's all you heard about shit. But I guess there also wasn't like... Do you not think the OJ trial, fallout shows and movies aren't a big part of why that is the case, though?
Starting point is 00:57:24 Both in terms of the court and the prosecutors taking direct control over it, but then also, uh, his lawyers, you know, like, Diddy's lawyers probably have a lot to lose if this thing gets played out too much in the media.
Starting point is 00:57:37 Diddy certainly has a lot to lose. So my guess is for competing reasons, for competing interests, everyone's a little bit motivated not to redo the OJ trial. Yeah. And then in terms of the media, yeah, dude, he's not as big of a star weirdly.
Starting point is 00:57:56 Yeah. And it's not as, well, like, it's not as big of a shot. like everybody's always assumed Diddy was a piece of shit but OJ was like the darling you know right right and then also think about who all's been implicated
Starting point is 00:58:08 and who would be like and you know if you're a mid-level reporter you can see that and be like damn Kevin Hart you know like this is exactly why we need to be reporting it right but then you know you're that you're that guy's boss at TMZ and you're like yeah but every time we do this it's calculated. Right.
Starting point is 00:58:32 Because we want access. Speaking of Kevin Hart, did you see where Dave Chappelle slammed fucking DJ Khalid for being silent about Palestine? What? Yeah. Oh, is Caled, is Khaled Palestinian? Caled's Palestinian, which is the biggest one I've ever seen. Without question, sorry. God, damn, man.
Starting point is 00:58:59 What? The fuck needed two tents. Yeah, man, I was not, I did not expect. He was hiding a bag of flour in his chin. I did not expect Chappelle to, we'll talk about DJ Khalid, but also take that stance. Chappelle's been on that stance since pretty early on. He's really tight with Mo Amir, Mo Amr. I don't know if I'm saying Mo's last name, right, who has the show Moe on Netflix.
Starting point is 00:59:28 And he has, I mean, dude. I feel like even like, like, writing them, maybe at the tail end, but definitely in the crux of the Dave Chappelle, Zytheist moment he's been having. I mean, it was almost like, this isn't true, but it was almost like, trannies are weird and free Palestine. Right. And it's, but that's a great point, but like, because like most of the people I know who were like, hell yeah, Dave Chappelle speaks the truth, trannies aren't real.
Starting point is 01:00:00 they are also very pro-Israel and so you'd think that they would really be shitting on Chappelle for this whole thing but I guess that's just how much they don't like trans people as they're willing to forgive. I think that smartly the people who make something like that news chose not to make it news
Starting point is 01:00:19 when Dave Chappelle came out as that just like Theo. Theo should be getting absolutely grilled less right now. I think that... What did he do? Theo's been all over. free Palestine, this is a genocide, what the fuck are we doing? I think very, very intelligently, the media machine that usually goes after Hollywood when they do that is like bad move.
Starting point is 01:00:46 The more people who know that Theo Vaughn and Dave Chappelle are on that side, the worse it is for us. Right, yeah. As the, you know, machine. It's a great point. ever. I'm going to sound very anti-Semitic, I think, if I keep going. Like, I say words like the machine and I'm like, it sounds like, I didn't even consider that. I mean APEC or whatever.
Starting point is 01:01:07 Just as one example, the main one. Yeah. That's what I think. I think there were meetings about it. I think there were some things written. I think for the most part it was like, we don't want it even in the news cycle that Dave Chappelle feels this way. That's my opinion.
Starting point is 01:01:22 Yeah, I saw a thing yesterday where the dude that's playing Jimmy, Olson and Superman. Apparently when he was reading his sides for that, he thought he was auditioning to play Superman, which is hilarious looking at him. But anyways, I was reading the comments and somebody was like, yeah, I'm not seeing this movie because that guy's a Zionist, you know. And then somebody commented, they're like, that guy's a Zionist. And they were like, yeah. And they're like, oh, fuck, I won't see the movie either.
Starting point is 01:01:47 And I was like, man, I just got to not read about people because I feel like there's a whole lot of movies I wouldn't be able to see if that's the case. You know what I'm saying? That's certainly part of it. By the way, I just remembered it was one of his S&L monologues. Chappelle? They Chappelle, like, pretty defiantly, kind of did come after a quote-unquote, the Jews.
Starting point is 01:02:10 Yeah, you're right. I don't remember if he made that a Palestine thing or not. Maybe he did, but I remember him being like, look, they do kind of run Hollywood. It was that kind of thing. And I think it was like not too long. after that, he connected it to that.
Starting point is 01:02:27 Yeah. As I recall, it is hazy for me for a variety of reasons. Speaking of which, me and Bain last night, I decided to show him the Patriot for the first time, and people have said it before, better men than me, but say what you will about Mel Gibson, but the son
Starting point is 01:02:41 of a bitch knows story structure. You know what I mean? God damn. Oh, yeah, that movie rules, dog. I've seen a lot of people lately talking about now that Mel Gibson's on like President Trump's Hollywood Ambassador thing, they're trying to act like that Mel Gibson and never hit.
Starting point is 01:02:57 And boy, it is just really hard for me to watch people embarrass themselves like that. You know what I mean? It's so dumb to do that because it makes it harder to just shit all over
Starting point is 01:03:06 I've forgotten his name. Any of their other quote unquote celebrities because they have so few with any time. James Woods or whatever. But even like James. James Woods hit.
Starting point is 01:03:15 I know. I know. That was the next sentence. Kevin Sorbo. But the next, yeah, right. Sorbo,
Starting point is 01:03:20 but like the next sentence that was about to come out of my mouth is like, Woods is lesser on that thing. And so is John. void but both of them are fucking awesome act like dude john boy was this dude anytime that motherfucker in a movie and he playing a bad guy sign me the
Starting point is 01:03:33 fuck up but like it's it's stupid like oh i remember what i want to say the other reason that didn't come out that hard with chappelle is you got competing racism there that's true you got to understand about a solid and i mean huge chunk of american support for israel just comes from a sort of either evangelical notion of like this is the best way to make the bible come true and those are god but like
Starting point is 01:03:55 they're anti-Semitic people. Right. You know. And then they just love the Israeli government. And then there's just like a finance. There's a lot of like right wing type people who are like, those are our allies. And here are the reasons why that I've been taught over and over again. And, you know, so we got to support them.
Starting point is 01:04:13 It doesn't come from like. So in other words, they weren't like defending the Jews when Dave Chappelle went after. But that also does some of those people that. Some of those people who were like, there are allies, it has nothing to do with anything other than their allies. And I'm like, well, brus, so is Canada. So is fucking England. And y'all constantly shit on them and are like, fuck them. They can, you know, what would they be without us?
Starting point is 01:04:38 Like, it ain't that. It's also, man, if in that worldview, and this is not one I share, but if I understand that one correctly, at some point we got to ask ourselves why? Why are allies? Was it not because they upheld certain things you believe in? Is there not been proof after proof after proof that's no longer the case if it ever was? Like, allies shit is a negotiation. I was about saying, it's a two-way street. What the fuck they ever done for us?
Starting point is 01:05:06 Yeah. I mean, yeah. Okay. Sure. That's the dark part of this is that we are all so fucking evil. Yeah, right. Yeah, Mossad has helped us out quite a bit, I'd say. Right.
Starting point is 01:05:18 We are evil. Also end on this note. Happy birthday, America. Look at you. Oh, that's right. I'm off this weekend. I'm off this weekend. This is a holiday weekend.
Starting point is 01:05:29 But next Wednesday, July 9th, I got a Largo show in Los Angeles. Please come out to that if you're in the LA area. And then after that, I'm in Tulsa, Oklahoma, then the La Jolla Comedy Store, and then Des Moines, Omaha, Kansas City, St. Louis, Austin, and Indianapolis. Then a whole bunch of other places after that,
Starting point is 01:05:50 the near future, Treycrouter.com. Please come and save me. me I'll go ahead. I will be in Knoxville, Tennessee, July 25th. I will be in Denver in August. I'm about to announce that. I'm also, I just want everyone to know, I'm going to go back on the road. I love my son and I love my wife, but I need to see the people.
Starting point is 01:06:11 Difficult. Not in the next week or two, but in the next month or so, I'll be announcing next year's tour. I'm already talking to Chattanooga, Louisville. Anyway, I'll announce all that. Yeah, I'm back on the road. I'd like to thank everybody that came out to the show in Fort Worth, Texas. That was very, very fun, had a blast.
Starting point is 01:06:29 I will be, I'm off for a minute. I will be Louisville at Comedy Off Broadway, August 14th. Lexington. Lexington, what did I say? What did I say? You said Louisville. Lexington, my bad, my bad. Lexington at one of our favorite comedy clubs, Comedy Off Broadway, August 14th.
Starting point is 01:06:46 And then right after the next day, I'm in Charlottesville, Virginia. You can get those tickets at Corey Ryan, 4th. rooster.com. Also be on the lookout. I've got a new podcast about to come out called Public Domain Sleepy Time Theater. It's where this season we're reading The Adventures of Tom Sawyer by Mark Twain. You can get all the episodes that are already out. We're already up to Chapter 20 at We Love Corey.com. That's where you can get them ad free and all that good stuff. It's a blast. Thank you all for listening to The Well Red Show. We Love to Stick. Oh, listen to Putting on Air's Gravy Baby and Weekly Skews. We love to
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