wellRED podcast - Nathan Evan Fox Joins The Boys To Talk Music, Art, And Community!

Episode Date: June 17, 2026

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Okay, I never know if you're going to play the thing or not, because sometimes you do play the thing. I sometimes do like to keep you on your toes, stay Crowder. But then, yeah, I don't know. And then, anyway, hello everybody. We're here. The disgust. Here we are. The disgust you have for me as a person.

Here we are, all three of us. I am going to be a fourth today. Mr. Nathan Evans Fox will be joining us shortly, about 15 minutes from now, a little less. A wonderful musician that I was not aware of, I have early on set Papaw. Yeah. And so I haven't. But I know he hits because y'all said.

And I know that his, his philosophy and everything is also in line and on brand. So I'm looking forward to that. But before then, I mean, and I don't know if you want to talk about it with him here or not or whatever, but I want to Bonnaroo update. Yeah, let's do it.

And in particular, how what court went? Because you've been talking about it on here. Not like obnoxiously. I'm just saying you've been plugging. it and bringing it up on here for a while now. So I'm curious how it actually transpired. Yeah, man. It was the most fun I've had on stage in like five to 15 years.

It was awesome. Everybody who came out who's listening, thank you so much. Dude, it was awesome. I was worried about turnout more than anything. Obviously, you don't have to advertise when you play Bonneroo. Like, you're really just bragging because people are already at Bonneroo. You don't have to sell tickets. But we were out in the walk into your thing.

Right. And we were out in the campgrounds at 11 a.m. I actually think if you're going to do it that early, campground is the only place to get a crowd. Yeah. We were in group camping. The groups came out. We had groups come there with their case.

And then the people who weren't involved in it wanted to see it. I think I explained it on here, but just to review, we were doing court style case comedy, but Bonneroo themed. We had a case. where these girls from Ohio put their buddy Isaac on trial he was a real true good time Charlie except I don't think he'd ever had the blues this dude was like yeah permanent yeah and he was he was like dumb and good looking and he was just like and happy they call those himboes he was a real himbo and I guess two monitors go two days before they were all supposed to leave together he was like

oh I'm not even coming back to Ohio to get you guys I was working in Arkansas and I'm just going to stop in Tennessee and wait on y'all. And even while they're on stage, he was like, I just don't see what the problem is. Yeah, that sounds like a show move to me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Especially what you just said in his defense. I don't even get why you would care.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, the only part of this that's not me so far is that you said he was, he'd never had any bad times and seemed to be in good spirits. But other than that, yeah, I'm relating. Really, he was really hot, so I feel like, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, that reiterate that before we move to. Yeah, well, and that also, I think that has a lot to do with the other one for the most part. For sure. But they were all hot, and that's, you know, not relevant except it is because they definitely flashed the judge in order to win their case. Not that they needed to. Me and the judge, Corey Perry, my boy from Nashville, comedian Corey Perry, I was the court jester. Instead of playing the judge, I'm the jester because that allows me to do whatever I need to do. in the future it's going to allow me to have guest judges,

which I'm eventually going to get Andy Frasco, and it's going to be awesome. Oh, dude, that's the best possible person you could get. I know, and Bonneroo's already said they want me back. We had a bunch of people come out, though. That case was fun. The real, robust people had a real fun, real fun case where I guess a guy had left their bus in disarray,

playing Dungeons and Dragons in the middle of Bonaroo, and they were like, you're in here playing nerd games, and you leave my bus in disarray. But his attorney didn't show up, So I stepped in as public defender and got him off. My man. Your boy won the case. Your boy can't be beat.

My man. They were basically accusing him of, like, ruining their bus and cockblock. And, like, you know, you've been here for three hours. I can't get laid on my own bus. And then I brought it back around and was like, and you put this game on why? And he was like, I was trying to impress a girl. And I was like, so who's the real cockblock here? The married people who don't want my boy to get any.

And we had a lot of fun with that. We insulted the crowd. I opened with 10 minutes. That went well. Man, we just had fun. My favorite thing was this fucking look interrupted and was like, I got something to say to the judge. And then he came out there with a giant inflatable duck and was like, this is our son. We made him in chambers three years ago.

And you won't answer my phone calls. So I'm suing you for custody and all this other stuff. And then punishments were fun. You know, we made people drink Mallor. I swore him in on this giant dildo called. the cock of justice. Nice. What color?

It scored a beer. Black, surely. It was alien, which I did because I felt like real. The dick of justice. Yeah.

But someone, two people pointed out separately, and I haven't looked into it, but I think it's true. It was alien colors. It was like purple and green. I do think it was just a horse cock. I think maybe you're not allowed

to sell horsecock, but it was definitely a horse cock. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Seen enough of those to know. I trust your, yeah.

Um, grew on the horse. It was so fun, though. I also, one of the punishments was you got to slap the bag, but instead of pulling out a wine bag, I pulled out a giant bag of confectioner sugar that looked like drugs. Yeah. And I made a key out of cardboard.

That was a big hit. Snorting sugar is fun. You might people snorted sugar. I've done it. No, I did not make them start sugar. The only real punishment was drinking malort. And this one kid chugged it. No, no, no, no, no.

And he wasn't even on trial. He was our guest. That's hilarious. Just a fucking Chicago loser. I want to shout out Jersey and then we can, I guess, move on. No, I have some questions. I do, I do too. Let me shout out Jersey.

Jersey was our guest. So when the judge was put on trial, we had to get a guest judge, of course. I had met this kid, Jersey at a beer exchange where he had showed up with two Bush apples. This is a, sorry, a craft beer exchange. That's relevant. Yeah. There was a craft beer exchange. 150 people show up with a Bush apple flavor.

Yeah. Yes. That's a new thing. Two bush apples. Yeah. And left with 12 craft beers and his bush apples. My man. So I was like, brother, you're the look of the weekend for me.

I want you to come to this thing tomorrow. And if I have time, I'll give you an award. Well, then we have this surprise thing where they put the judge on trial. I'm like, fuck it. You can just be the guest judge. Well, I guess I had mentioned to him because he was asking me what it was, that I was swearing people in on a dildo. Yeah.

Not only did he step up and be the guest judge. chugged the Mallort when no one asked him to. Yeah. He also brought his own dildo. Like when I guess what I said that, he pulled a tentacle out. Was that, oh, yeah. Was that he was on the flyer that he had to bring your own dildo, or is this just a fucking enterprise and young look?

Dude, he's just an enterprise and young look. I guess he thought it'd be funny. He was probably playing on throwing it. I mean, dude, the other guy knew Corey, but like, I didn't tell him I was bringing him up there. Okay, so people, these, like, did people have to like sort of sign up for this and you knew what these cases were going to be? Okay.

And what you let them do that on the internet on social media ahead of time or at Bonneroo the days before? We had a thing set up. I was going to pass out stuff probably with just the link to the thing. But it had filled in enough by that time that I didn't want to overdo it. You know what I mean? And I even had to put some people on like a wait list or whatever. But it ended up working out pretty perfectly. People were also allowed to do petitions.

Like one guy didn't have a case. He just wanted the court to declare that King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard are allowed to come to any Bonneroo and play because there just happened to be one of those bands that's been canceled a bunch because of the way, like they just keep missing it. Right. To the point where the last time Bonneroo got rained out, King Gizzard was supposed to play five sets.

And then all five of those got canceled. So that was fun. We had another petition about day passers. And I got a shout out, Saxon. constant the comedian buddy of mine a wook buddy of mine and comedian buddy of mine from Knoxville who did a case about

damn I'm so tired my brain's slipping out of it. I don't know how you're standing up right now daft punk you know the lies stray it's you know it's been a while but you know there's always like a dude there's a secret set oh yeah you can't miss it they still doing huh he was like not funny jokes old

what are we doing you're breaking my heart and, you know, Judge Bollary tradition. I don't know this one. Can you fill me in? Because I'm the least book of us off. There are a secret set. Right.

Like this year, Cage of the Elephant came again. And I missed it. So you want to hear about it. Right. But people lie all the time. Yeah. And so, but there weren't,

the only two, like, comics and people running the show or whatever were you as the court gesture and then the judge. People had to be in their own. And constantly helped me a lot. Your own lawyer or. So Saxon, I just want to shout out Saxon. Saxon helped me a lot, probably more than Corey.

I don't think Corey would mind me saying that. Corey kind of showed up on 30 minutes of sleep and could barely talk. But he did absolutely crush. As soon as he said to those girls, I need you all to meet me in my chambers. They got their tits out, which was nice. I think you've met him. Maybe not. But anyway, yeah, so like the real robust people,

had attorneys and witnesses and everything planned out. And then one of the attorneys didn't show, and we really didn't need to or have time to get to their witnesses. And again, I appreciate them being so organized. But Charlotte and Daniel are who owned the Real Rubus and do the Real Rubust podcast. She was his lawyer. And she did a great job presenting and asking him questions. Everyone else, I just kind of let them act as just witnesses.

You know what I mean? Right, okay. Just like, get up here and talk. Swear in, what happens? The real room. Okay, do you have anything to say for yourself in defense? Help me out. Again, you know, I'm a papal.

What is that podcast? What's the real rube bus podcast? Yeah, the real rubez or the rubez podcast. Right. Corey, do we know these people? Do I know them? Okay. I don't think so.

Okay. It sounds like you do or not. It sounds like something I'd like. I was just shouting them out. They own that bus that I'm sure you've seen because it's been there for 15 years. Is it the colorful one? It's blueish purple and it's got like rainbows on it. I think I told them Andy's first post-Bonaroo profile pick was in front of their bus before we ever knew.

Okay. So it's like they take a bus to Bonneroo and they've done it every Bonneroo like since the very beginning pretty much and that's their thing. And when they and they have a podcast about Bonneroo shit. Yeah. And they're from Huntsville, Alabama. And they got you. They've come, I think, to at least one of our Huntsville shows, and they've come to all my Huntsville shows.

That's awesome. They were probably the entirety of our crowd in Huntsville, and we appreciate them coming. Really do. But yeah, they were great, and a lot of their crew came. And then, of course, a lot of Corey and Saxon's crew came. But then a lot of people have wandered in because group camp is full of people who want to do stuff in the middle of the day.

Yeah, well, that's the other thing I wondered. You know, like, barred, you know, like in the camp. Like, I figured, because I feel like you could. get people to to come to that. You said 11 a.m. because you can't sleep in because of the sun. The show's inside.

I haven't started yet. You're on a ruse. You're fucked up. Even at that time, you want to be fucked up at that time. And it's like a show in the campground at 11 a.m. And there's a theme.

It's like a party. Right. You don't have to know any of the people or nothing. It's like a, yeah. You said it's like a theme thing. I mean, I passed up. I would have gone to that.

Yeah. Yeah, I passed out flyers. I hung them up while I was hanging them up. People were walking by like, like what the hell's at? And it's also, it's a good elevator pitch. It's a judge Judy style, course, though, but it's Bonneroo theme. Yeah.

And what I would say to people, if they still weren't in, and we kind of ended up having a custody case, although it was over a quote unquote child that was a blowup duck. But I would be like, you know, like custody of the nitrous tank. You know what I mean? You've been had them in two days. It's my time with our son, the nitrous tank. And people would get it immediately. The only, honestly, the only negative, and this is on me, but it's because I was just

doing everything. I brought my nice camera. My plan was for my nephew to film it. He was MIA at that time. And then I just completely forgot. Like if I had brought it over there, there were plenty of people who would have done it. I just didn't bring it over there.

I was carrying the judge's table and all that, which was just a table and a tote stacked on top of each other with a weed tapestry. Some people got some clips and some people got some pictures, but I would say on the production side, that was literally the only negative. I think that had we got more of that,

I really think I could get almost any festival to agree to let me come, even if it's just for like a free ticket, because everyone who went out of blast, everyone who's there gets it, gets what it is. And dude, you know, festival culture is full of large groups, you know what I mean, like doing stuff, year after year after year. They had beefs, real.

and fake, but more than anything, they wanted to get on stage and pretend or seriously yell at their friends. I've had a good time. Oh. Yeah, good segue there. Speaking of festivals and shit. What's up, Nathan? Hey, y'all.

I noticed that I'm just going to come out with it. I've been curious. Drew, I said some things that could have incriminated me to you on camera about what court and the things that they deserve. And I'm glad that those things have died. Also, nice to meet everyone. I have to meet you, too. I did not put those out because I was worried that it would get into the wrong hands.

You have a stellar reputation of being a lover of all groups, and we may find out soon that Wooks have something wrong with them, and then it's not their fault, and then I wouldn't want someone to then retroactively make it that you, Nathan Fox, have said those things you said about people who are otherwise actually mentally. handicapped. Well, having, once you explain to me what wooks are and having seen what I know to be works at various points in my life, absolutely should be a protected class. And it is not their fault at all. And I love them. And that is exactly what Nathan Evans-Fox said to be on camera. He did not say

that it is the only arena in which he is for corporal punishment and the death penalty. So I do feel like he's already on board with what you said, Corey. He definitely didn't. say put them all in jail and set them on fire. He didn't say, well, I was going to say, except for some of them, which I would easily gas, uh, without blinking. But yeah, I wasn't going to say that last part. Uh, well, yeah, so that's, that's the tone of the today's episode. We're glad you're here with us. Uh, Nathan, anything, yeah, anything you need to promote before you incriminate yourself further. Yeah, what don't I have to promote? I got a record out, uh, heirloom. Yeah, it's great. Uh, it's, everybody says it's my debut. It's my, it's my, it's my, it's

record is just the first I haven't like fucked around on. And I have a book club going, which is great. We love one of left. The anti-confederate book club. I'm a member. Yes. It's honestly low-key dope. Yeah, anti-confederate Southern history.

There's a lot of history of the South that, you know, a lot of people have worked to suppress of like really radical resistance to the Confederate folks. I tell folks at my shows, no matter where I'm playing, they all live in the South now, the way the country's going. And so it's time to tap in on the ways that folks have been doing it. And so every week, I'm just going to keep going with stump speech. Every week we interview or I interview, there's not much we to it. I interview folks who are activists, artists, or organizers in the South who are doing some cool work while we also read these books.

So it's not a do nothing book club. It's about like getting you plugged in with folks who are doing cool shit. Well, that's awesome. Let's work our way backwards in. Let's start there with the book club. I was reading, and by the way, I think I said this to them before you got on there. I have had about 40 hours of sleep in the last 10 days, it feels like. So I'm just on pure caffeine at this point.

But I was reading some of the stuff from the book club and watching some of the videos. It really feels like it's in lockstep with what I know about what you're doing at your live shows too, just in terms of, like you said, telling people we're all the South now. I know you're doing seed exchanges and all that. I guess the way I would phrase this is like, have you always been this rad in terms of with your, well, rad in terms of being awesome, but also radical, in terms of your career.

Like, the first time you went on tour, were you thinking about this kind of stuff, or were you just like, man, how much merch do I got to sell to make my gas money? Yeah, I mean, I've always thought about this kind of stuff, but I never, I mean, if I'm being honest, like, the long answer is that I think part of the propaganda of being born in the U.S. is that a lot of the art that we consume hasn't really developed a good poetics

for how to talk about things that are of political importance. So like I can sing a hundred songs. When I was in seventh grade and I was learning guitar and I was writing my first songs, I could sing songs about Jesus and I could sing songs about girls. And that was never hard. That came pretty organically because of my socialization.

Sure. So I was always thinking about this. But it took a little bit more life experience. to just get the rage fully, like, crystallized in my belly, like, I can't shake it. And then also just took a lot of, like, how do I say this thing? Because, I mean, from being honest, like, so much political music is so bad because either white guys will come on and, like, satirize what's going on, which doesn't do anything other than kind of get your feeling offline.

It doesn't get people organized. Or they'll just say things that are on the nose. And so then it doesn't feel artistic and doesn't get all the kind of unction that comes with it. So it's always been there, but it's taken. the better part of probably 10 years to kind of come to a way of saying it that like that feels right. That feels like it sits in my vernacular and isn't just like sticky and algorithm bait. Well, damn.

I mean, we're thoughtful and kind of kind of, well, that gets added to answer. I mean, in terms of the algorithm thing, I mean, I have to disagree with you both about being satirical and on the nose. Those are two of my primary techniques that I utilize. But I'm not a musician. So, you know, maybe that makes it a little bit different. Yeah, well, I was trying to start a beef with you right here. Yeah.

I did think there was a little, I don't do any of that Dre Crowder bullshit. I live on the nose, but that's right, right. That's my wheelhouse. But do you, okay, you want it to be organic and authentic to you or whatever. Do you also have any kind of part of you that wants to like, like, do you care about it, being straightforward to the people that listen to it and then those people calling you, you know, a fucking commie and gay and all that shit.

Yeah. You know, that you like care about that? Do you try to like Trojan horse it at all or you just fucking throw it out there and let them deal with it? No, I mean, if we're talking about all this stuff, I mean, I think, I mean, part of this is also you see the ways that like, I mean, we're reading this, this anti-confederate book club stuff. And you see the ways that folks have been willing to kowtow to red scare bullshit. it ends up meaning that like it it holds back the message and the movement. And so I don't really care what people call me. And I'm I'm pretty open about my commitments.

In fact, I would rather weed out people who want some ambiguity. I think a lot of people, like I've had a lot of people who want me to kind of like country bear jamboree for them and be their hick. And, and I don't want that. Like I tell folks like if you want the fruit,

which is the songs and you got to take the root, that sounds very sexual. I love it. Yeah. Straight down to the road, son. straight down the route but like you know the things that i that like that informed my music are like my grandmama who practiced a lot of like real hospitality and i would like to see the everyday communism that she practiced at her table extended to the rest of the world and also comes from

stacking tires in a windowless michelain factory and also comes from working as a hospital chaplain for years and years and seeing people killed by social murder like i've i've touched a lot of grasses i've touched a ecosystem a biodiversity ecosystem of grasses um and so so if you want if you want to like get something off of me it's not going to be like a tourist transaction where i'm going to ye haul for you like you've got to know that there's commitments to it and if it ain't for you that's fine i'll just keep singing songs for myself right so hell yeah so that's awesome so to double down i guess on that theme or to push a little harder or dig a little deeper then to the road would you say you're not about bringing people in then who are a little on

the fence or would you say like well no i'm just going to keep being great and eventually they'll come to me. Or do you just, again, not care? I'm genuinely curious because, you know, a lot of people that we look up to are proud of the fact that their fans, it's like this weird paradox of like, if you've been a fan for 10 years, you should have figured out who I am. But they're proud of the fact that some fans started with this one song

that was about this, I'll do the drive by truckers, that was about this incestuous family. And then they got them around on the song that was about the history of the South of Alabama and their governors, you know. And I think that's legitimate. How do you feel about that? I mean, whatever works. I just know what works for me. Like, I know that when I try to be coy, I end up coming off as a little anxious and weird. You know, like I, like I've got enough, like, I'm lightly, I'm always kind of lightly off putting.

Like, there's always going to, when you're with me, you're just going to be microdosing a little bit of like, I can't fucking stand this guy. And so it's on his truth. And so to like lean out of that, the weirder it gets. It just gets like squirrely. So I'm just like, this is what I am. Other people can do all the other shit. But, you know, I mean, my thing is I'm not going to tell you can't like my music. If you don't, if you disagree with me, I'm just going to make sure that you know that, like,

you like something that is the product of something that you didn't think you could agree with. Because, I mean, like, I think beliefs come after community and they come after feeling and all of that. So, like, your beliefs can be one way. And then you have a couple of experience. and you have some friends and it changes. I think the entirety of the American political sphere right now has proven to us that beliefs come after a fucking lot of things. I mean, even some for myself.

Obviously, I'm talking about some of these people don't seem to have any beliefs, but even some for myself, I semi-jokingly said the other day about that guy out of Maine. Like, I don't give a shit if he beat his whole fucking family. I need someone to get us out of what we're in. I didn't mean that, but I was sort of looking at like, man, maybe my beliefs in some levels are as strong as these other beliefs. So I respect the shit out of that.

Seriously. Yeah. Yeah. Let's circle back to the album. I found out about you the first time when Okra and Cigarettes, The Hillbilly Him, went, I guess, viral. It went viral in my world. I don't know how the algorithm works anymore.

I saw it having no idea who you are, but, you know, it wouldn't be hard for the algorithm to know that I'd be into it. Right. Yeah, what's Okra and cigarettes, for God's sake. Was that, like, the first song from this? EP, or was it just the first one that got traction? Now, I had this record done. Like I had, I was already talking to, I'm signed with a little kind of indie label for your record.

Shout out until they, until they fuck me on something. And then I'll drag them. But so far it's been good. Shout out to them. We like them. But, no, I had the record like completely done. We were talking to them about getting the record as it is set up. And then that song took off.

That song wasn't going to be anything. It was like, I thought I'd post this little snippet I had written and get 300 likes. and that got 54,000 likes and then I had to write the rest of the song. So we actually kicked a song off the record to get that on there. So I had been writing the better part of this record since like 2021, 2022.

That's awesome. So it's called Aeroom. You've touched on this in a couple of interviews, but let's circle back to this. There's this theme of what you get, what you inherit. And I think you've done a real nice job both on the record and speaking about it about kind of

speaking on what we inherit that's bigger than and more important than a house or money. What was the inspiration for that? Yeah. Well, I can't help, but like, I just, look, another plug for my. Do it, baby. Sometimes they just write on. That will help me plug. See, there we go.

We'll do a little slot. Substack, I was saying on my substack, like, I write autobiographically. And so, like, you know, you get these people in these writers rooms in Nashville. And they're like, I have a song idea. let's go execute it. And that's not what it is for me. For me, it's more like, I've got, like, a lot of clutter in my brain.

I say it's like American Pickers, and my brain's full of, like, old smokehouses and shit, and I've got to go organize things. And so, like, I write based on what I'm living through. And so writing for me is almost like therapeutic. It's like organizing what's going on in a life. You get streaky that way, too. I feel like I do the same.

And there will be, like, weeks where I go, I'm the most prolific human being that has ever existed. And then for three months after that, I'm like, why did you go into this field, you idiot? You don't know anything. I'm in the ladder right now. I'm dying of drought and I beat myself up for it. It's how it goes. I've just learned to be patient with it.

Like, it's just a season, but you just want to fucking, you know, run through a wall. But, yeah, like, I went through this season where I became a dad and I lost my dad within the span of a year. Yeah, I had that happen. The idea of inheritance. Yeah, it's, I mean, it, it, it, I called it like a fun like, of like, like, generations. Like, you don't. Right.

Everything that you thought about parenting, everything you thought about your family, everything you thought about being new, like, it's all subject to critique. It's all coming up. And so that's where that came from. Yeah. And like, one thing for me as, as an artist, artist is like, you know, I think part of the thing is like, especially for white folks in America, oftentimes we're told that like politics is impersonal and abstract and it's out there.

And the truth is that like I can tell you for a fact that a lot of the intergenerational stuff that I've inherited is because of Uncle Sam, because of the conditions of work and of war that we've had to sort out in our family. It's the PTSD that my granddad brought home. It's the ways that my grandmother had to, you know, she got kicked off of a military base because she was a quote, hysterical woman when her kid died. Like it's it's the fact that like my grandmother who I grew up next to on family land always told us we were a bunch of outlaws and and uh, everyone except for me upheld that pretty well. Um, and so and so for me like thinking about family and inheritance is always like a starting point for for experiencing the world and seeing the ways that like power sorts itself out

in everything, including our family systems. So like this record is really personal because it's about grief and it's about becoming a father, but it's also about, you know, I, like, I say this to everyone, and I've said this to my therapist a hundred times to make sure she understands. Uncle Sam is the ultimate patriarch in all of our families. Right. And so, like, taking that seriously, too, you know. It's interesting to you say that, because I've never really considered that, but, like, my grandfather was in Korea.

And, like, my dad didn't serve. I didn't serve. But my grandfather was in Korea. and he came back with some shit. And he was a very cold and distant, distant person. And then he raised my dad sort of that way. And there's always been this undercurrent of just sort of,

you know, going on. And I never realized it's like, that's fucking Uncle Sam's fault, you know? I thought I should just blame it on our jeans, which, I mean,

we're not doing great. But like, you're right. Like, of course that's what that is. Like all that bullshit that just goes down from one generation to the next. And then you just got to make that. decision like, am I going to download it to the next motherfucker, which is, you know, my kid.

I just had, I had a kid around the same time. And it's like, no, I guess not. And, like, unpacking that's, that's wild shit, man. Y'all, I, you know, everybody loves a good dad bod. But for the love of God, I had a child three years ago. So at this point, my dad bod is just turning into a slub. You know what I'm saying? And I'm needing to get back in better shape.

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Like, here's the other thing, y'all is I was a hospital chaplain for the better part of 10 years. So I was going between making music and literally helping people die. I was not converting people on their deathbed. We get it. You're a good dude. I'm a great person. We're just fucking chuckle fuckers. We get it.

I'm here just to show these comedians some morality here. You should. Hey, for the most part, we as a culture of comedians need it. I've interacted with your kind of, you make musicians look like, you know, altar boys. It's incredible. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, I mean, you know, I also, I've looked at, like, I've been with people in grief and trauma, and a lot of it is like you're coping, like, all of the ways that we interact with the empire

affect our coping. Like, it really does. Like, the ways that we, you know, if, I don't think, like, privilege is such an overused word. but like I think of privilege more is like points of non-resilience because you've had to learn dominance rather than like how to bounce back like if you can't master something how do you get through it and like all of these things end up impacting the ways that we just experience the world on like unlike just an affective level um which feels like what I'm trying to do in country music you know just get I can get you I can get the vibe judged up well it seems to be what

a lot of people used to do in country music and then somewhere along the way that I don't know what it was. I mean, some people point to fucking 9-11, which I don't think that was the greatest day in country music, but it couldn't have just been all 9-11. I don't know what happened. So I'm glad people like you were doing it right because I'm a, you know, I'm a big, not to gush, but I'm a big fan and a card carrying comrade of the substack. Hell yeah. Thank you. I'm glad somebody's reading. Well, yeah. And on that note, like double-double, what you said in the, relating to the substack, you wrote that thing about the only thing you quote will get

lathered up about in terms of country beefs is that, is what Corey was with touching on, which is, you know, you're like, basically you were saying like, look, what's authentic, what's not, trap beat versus vocals, I don't care about any of that. Are you carrying water for the empire? Are you carrying water for the people around you and the community? Are you carrying water for the man, however you want to phrase it, whatever you're most comfortable with? you know some people say empire some people say the government some people say the man some people say

right wing whatever it is versus for your people well how i mean like you feel like you did that innately and then later you academically were able to frame it that way or did you have to get that framework and then be like this is the artist i want to be yeah i don't know i mean i grew up like i tell people i grew up socially feral um it's pretty true like i grew up real right wing at the end of a dead end road real like real weird fundamentalist Christian. Like everybody will try to be like, oh, you were Pentecostal. No.

Oh, you're evangelical. No. I was something so much weird. Trey, we don't even know shit about this. We've only told you about Pentecost. Yeah, dude. This is,

and I've read some of the stuff he's read about this, and I do remember some of these kids, but he's right. This is weird even for me and Corey. So you got no shot. Like we were, like we were closeted from the Southern Baptist because they thought we were possessed by the way,

but we didn't tell him all the stuff here. Good Lord. And I think it's the one thing that they were right about. right it probably is yeah like we were like having out of body experiences gold dust appearing on us um you know exorcisms and tongue talking that stuff's kind of boring and entry level people believed in like uh teleportation you know like all kinds of i'm back in i say it's like the woo woo yeah the teleport public transit yeah well you seem to be describing acid there

for a second which sounded cool well that's the thing is like it was it was less christian and more like woo. Yeah. Like it was, it was just Christian work. It was like fundamental. See, y'all could have got me.

You know what I mean? I was in the, I was in the fucking like, oh, we can't have drums, but it's okay to this. And, but if you to introduce some fucking

deep purple on my ass, deep purple Christianity, I'd been all about it. Yeah. Oh, we had so many Christian drum circles. No joke. We'd be playing stuff in 118, 8,

like weird time signatures. Snakes? Yeah, yeah. No snakes. No snakes. Again, I'm with you. No snakes.

Okay, gays? Gays? Like, right, no gays, but also how, because again, so far to me, because as they alluded to, like, I didn't grow up in any kind of church despite being growing up in the rural. Yeah, yeah, utterly godless. And yeah, I know that the snake handlers a little bit, whatever, Southern Baptist and shit like that. But to me, like you said, it's more woo-woo than churchy. But I'm, you know, it just sounds like a hippie type of church to me, which I would.

would think would be more at least somewhat progressive. And so what I'm beginning at by saying gays is like, was it like that except also they were super fundamentalist about a lot of the more socially regressive shit at the same time, weirdly, or no? Yeah, I mean, it was, it was weird because like, I never had a problem with women in church. Like, because, you know, we'd have women get up with the microphone and they'd be their church and they would be drunk in the spirit. And they'd literally just be acting drunk for like four hours on stage.

um i don't know my wife so like there was some of that they need a lady in tarsen because she could make so much money doing that right now yeah i mean i'm sure we could i'm sure we could i'm sure that it's evolved enough where honestly some of this stuff has been mainlined a little bit uh anyway that's a whole other right thing that's how i grew up um but i also grew up on family land you know like i i grew up with the story of my family with the things that they experienced because of Uncle Sam. I also grew up next to my grandmother, who was the most generous person I've ever met

and also the meanest person ever met. She knew why the two go together. Like if you know Mountain, you know that you have to do both. So like I grew up with all that. You know, I worked some shitty jobs, whatever. And so I always kind of was like, I'm fine with saying that shit ain't right

because we were always so weird that having an outside perspective never really scared me. But none of that. that stuff really took. And so I did like, I, you know, I started to read like anarchist stuff. I had a little Ron Paul moment. Don't judge me. It was so weird. We all did. We all did.

Because I grew up, I grew up saying George Bush was the burning Bush in church. Like I was shouting and hollering for George Bush to invade a rock. So, but then that kind of like online me into like, just like, what else could I read? And then I got into Marx and stuff. And then I went to seminary. You go to seminary. You go to like a progressive seminary. and nothing will radicalize you more.

Okay. Because they're looking from a lens of like thousands and thousands and thousands of years. They've seen empires come and go. Right. And for them, what's important is, you know, like the ways that we've built community. And they all, you know, now I'm not religious, but I'm really grateful for, for the ways that I saw religion done really well. And the ways that gave me a starting point in an alternative framework. Right.

Well, what about the politics part? Like, do you even have a, do you have, do you have, do you classify your? yourself with any particular, you know, like titles politically now or like, yeah, which are what you what you're what you're what you're what you're what you're trying to get you are you a fed right now. I mean I tell people I'm a communist like you know I'm a communist with country music tendencies. Um, yeah, I like I I want the abolition of the value form like I want I want all that stuff. I want the complete abolition of of racism and of capitalism. Uh, I really love the history. of like communists in the south. I love the history of like maroon and freedom seeking communities

in the south. I love all that stuff. You know, at the, at the end of the day, I want the abolition of the government too. But we're going to, you know, there's no order of operations there. In this vision of yours, do we get to watch them burn? And is it on free public access or do we have to have a Paramount Plus subscription in order to watch? The revolution will be, will be subscribers. It'll be streamed only. That's a great t-shirt. The revolution will be subscriber-driven.

Yeah, you got to get PBS Plus. No, it's definitely going to be just like live stream. I think I might just do it on my TikTok just from my phone. But yeah, we're going to watch that shit burn. Watching that plantation burn a couple years ago? Yeah. It's so good. So good for my soul.

Now, I hear you. It was a beautiful house, though. Oh, no. I know. I'm fucking with you. Corey grew up in one of those houses. Yeah. Well, I mean, it's not as good as those, but yeah, it's nice.

His house has a name, or his parents' house had a name. HGTV came there and filmed it and talked about their civil war ghosts they had and stuff. That was two separate things, right, Corey. I'm sorry, I'm conflating two different moments from your household's history. Hilariously enough, you know, I'm pretty sure I told you this, but, like, at the time when our house was on HGTV, I had been actively trying to be a comedian and get on television, and they came and filmed our entire family. and they cut all the scenes with me and them. And so my entire family got on TV before me.

Couldn't use that as a credit. You couldn't even use that as a credit. You could barely see me climbing through a like a little tunnel. Trey, I want to see if you agree with me here. I'd bet dollars to donuts that they just couldn't put what everything he said. Right. He was churning out without a doubt. Without wild shit probably.

Yeah, for sure. Yeah, for sure. He was off them between like telling them that the ghosts were fucking each other. Right. And then being like, don't skip over the slave quarters, mom. I don't act like we didn't murder black people back then, you know, just between the two of those. I was 15, so yeah, or no, 16. So, yeah, dude, 100% a lot of that was going on.

But, yeah, but anyway, it might have ruined your comedy career to have a record of the things you were saying to HGTV. It very much. Great point. Yeah. Oh, dude, I'm very thankful for any footage of me that was taken during those times that's been extinguished and lost to the sands of time. Thank God for that. so because y'all had to see nays and dance and speak tongues and i'd like to see that well because you got the christian drum circles and all that shit like what about your musical education

because again what i'm used to fucking churches in my hometown like core i grew up with people that weren't allowed to listen you know to anything cool what i thought was cool you know yeah uh but sounds like maybe you might have been or did you find a bunch of shit like that later like what was your sort of musical upbringing um yeah whatever you want to put it well Well, so I wasn't allowed to listen to secular music. So I could only get stuff at the Lifeway store. Yeah, been there. And so, like, I remember getting caught listening to, like,

Leanne Rhyne and Shania Twain and Alan Jackson on the radio. And it was like, you know, it was like getting caught masturbating or so, like it was really like the fear of the Lord went through me. Yeah. Leanne Rimes, dude. If Leanne Rimes is sending you to hell, you got a fucked up religion. I'm telling you. I mean, we know Shania Twain sending us to hell.

Of course, she's Canadian. Yeah. Yeah, she's Canadian. Yeah. all Canadians are Jezebel's. I heard an 85-year-old woman call Amy Grant a whore one time because she broke up Vince Giles' marriage. I mean, the man has golden pipes.

Like, I get it. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, my God. So I wouldn't love to listen, nothing like that. But I loved it. Like, it was always kind of around. And so I would listen to like Southern Gospel AM radio.

My mom always had stuff on. I grew up in West North Carolina. So there's like always bluegrass. like stuff's kind of ambient but then you know I'm also listening to Christian music like which means that when you just grow up angsty and weird you just end up listening to like really intense Christian hardcore which was having a big moment when I was in high school

like underwood Norma Jean the chariot like all that stuff so that was cool and then I also started to sneak out and listen to like stained on the radio yeah hell yeah brother I'll let yeah they're back call them now. You can listen to the staying guy now if you're a Christian and it's fine. Aaron Lewis is, he's top

tier grifter, blesses. Bro. You said Bruce Springsteen tricked us. I sent this. He said born in the USA was a trick. Yeah. I one of his, I don't know why, but one of his songs popped up in my

like Spotify shuffle the other day. Because you're like, butt rock. And it's, that's right. Yeah, right. My DJ was like, yeah, you, because I do, dude, fucking stained rules you know they're like I guess you would like his later shittier stuff and bro when it came on before looking down

I swear to you I thought someone was doing a like this is Aaron Lewis spinal tap type situation I was like I was like this is a fake thing and I looked down and it was it was him and like I can't even repeat it was just imagine if someone

said hey you guys have three minutes to write the most try hard fucking just on the nose grifter right wing shit I think we would have come out with something way better it's unreal I don't know I don't know what's happening man it's been a while since the white man was treated fairly yeah and that's true but it's weird

it's weird over a sea cord he's he's like he's like if Marjorie Taylor Green like sun-oed Jesse Wells, you know? Yeah, that's like this weird cross-up. That's a very apt. He's so stupid. Yeah. My brother was in a couple rehabs,

and I was young enough that I had to go with mom to drive him and go see him the summer that came out. So I can just remember, like, trying to find anything in, like, rural Tennessee pop radio on the way to Buffalo Valley rehab. And that song getting played on the hour every fucking hour. and being like on the one hand this song kind of sucks but on the other hand if you are going to see your brother in rehab a song about how long it's been since you've been sober is kind of sad yeah a little bit yeah yeah so what about i mean so that also obviously that has to like extend to movies and shit like that too because i like i grew up in my dad's i grew up in my dad's 90s video store and my mama was a fucking drug addict my dad was like a fucking you know like a party guy fucking denim jenum jes and jacket, you know, long-haired rock and roll redneck dude. So like my childhood was fraught with a lot

of bullshit, but like I got to watch die hard and listen to DMX and shit like that. And I've, and as an adult looking back, I've been like, I mean, I don't know that I'd trade that. For like a happy home. Yeah, for living with Michael Orr's adoptive parents, fuck that. But not being able to have any of those hits, you know, I don't know that I'd take that back. But anyway, so what, like, you're just cultural evolution or whatever did extend to like film and shit like that as you got older in pop culture and stuff or there was some definitely like this is the new age agenda this is the game the agenda and uh all that stuff the free agent getting in there how we grew up was like the closest thing to the sacrament So I think in some ways, like the protection around music kind of makes sense.

It's kind of like if you're Catholic, you don't want people fucking with your wafers. Like nobody's going to be bringing, you know, like nilla wafers into the altar. I think it's kind of similar. So, you know, I had some of that. Like, there was always a kind of like concern about what's behind the scenes. But by and large, like, we're able to do all that. But I will say when I turned 18 and I quit, I was in a cult when I was 17. It's really, it's a long story.

But when I was set, when I was 18, I just kind of quit. everything cold turkey in October 2007. And I just started and like it was like, Molly Cyrus was really taken off on her like chaotic arc. It was a great time to just enter into culture. So like and BuzzFeed was like not complete slop at the time. And so I was just like on the internet. It's like consuming.

You mean the party in the USA era or the wrecking ball era? Like party in the USA had just come out. Yeah, dude. That was a fun time. Yeah. It's so funny. was kind of falling apart. And I appreciate this for the record.

But in the like hipster zeitgeist of what we live in now in terms of talking about culture, it's really funny for a man to say full-throated. Yeah, 07 was such a great time to enter the culture of America, especially music. Because it's like, yeah, you mean like the Kings of Leon

and their first downfall was the top rock band? Rap was great. Did you get the hip-hop? That's not all we had. It was a great time, Drew. I've acting like that. Dude, 07 fucking rules. Why are you ashamed of the fucking aughts in our history? Dude, the a-alt are the greatest. I've said it before with my whole throat, and I'll say it again.

Every morning there's a halo hanging from the corner of my girlfriend's four-post bed is one of the fucking best lyrics in the history of the goddamn game. Yeah, dude. I can't help with it. The dude looks like Gaffieri went on Ozympic. That's not my fault. He's the best artist of our time, Mark McGrath. Yeah, I mean, dude, the aught's, like, I'm sorry, but great art comes from resistance.

and we were we had George Bush you know and that's what nickel back was what you get nickel back and Dan Cook from yeah that's right that's right great resistance fire TV and all that yeah yeah I loved it they just play so many CSI episodes I loved it they'd be like welcome back to a thousand ways to die and it's just a fucking a thousand pound lady falling on someone's head it's awesome fuck yeah man the internet as you said you pointed out the internet was wild back then. Wow. But it was wild in an authentic

way. Like it was like you said BuzzFeed. Like even if something was shitty, you knew a fucking shitty human did it. You know what I mean? Like it was like yeah, that's a guy's a piece of shit. It wasn't a prompt or anything. Like everything was authentic and it was the Wild West and

then fucking hell man. God damn. Where has all the nickelbacks gone? Where's all the nickelbacks gone? Where have they gone? The Grizzly Man song? Yeah, yeah, exactly. Where have they gone?

They left us. Man. We treated it like shit, too, frankly. Those heroes of the aughts that were just trying to warn us, protect us. Yeah. Dick Cheney outlived them all. They were peak of Iraq War Corps. That's the thing.

Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Yeah, because that, but and also the best soundtrack to recruit you to go in the army without question came from that time. Well, listening to Colby. play made me gay you know what i mean like cold play was so i remember my dad was afraid of that hyper masculinity that was around all that stuff when i heard my first bright eyes song yeah yeah i was like you know i was transfix yeah and and that stuff made me like such a soft boy gay you know like whatever that was going around then because it you couldn't take that to iraq you know you couldn't put that in combat boots

dude it's so funny you bring that up because i think you just crystallized something for me that for like 22 year old Drew or whatever that time period was where it was like I just couldn't vibe with any of that shit I still can't I hate what I call soft straight boy music like I can't vibe with it at all but in terms of what I wanted it all you know was was like I rack war fucking propaganda like I think that's about the drive by truckers were such a fucking water to my thirsty soul where it was like fucking don't be what I would say that don't be a fucking pussy but also don't be a fucking you know hateful piece of shit. Drew, I thought you liked like Bonny Var and shit back then. You didn't fuck with Bonnie Varr? That's how you say it right. Bonnie said Bonner.

Bonnie Viour. Andy wanted me to go to iron and wine. Yeah, that guy, I remember that guy. I was like, I think I said something like, I'd rather go to the fountain at Bonaroo and squirt the water up my asshole than go to iron and wine at fucking Bonaroo. No.

How close the ass drugs are you on? Ray La Montaine. I like Rayla Montane. I like Rayla Montain. I did. I get in a Rayla, Ray La Monta. Rayla Monta.

That's sadness. Sad ain't the same as soft trade. Rayla Monta. You know I love the national dog? That's my fucking favorite band. That's sad. That ain't soft. I know.

I said. I said I hear you because you know I like the national. Rayla Montane is the melody thing. I don't think it's that they're like being sweet or heartbroken. I think it has literally has to do with the music. I want someone to like have a drumbeat and then very hardly saying that they're sad

about their woman who wrote their heart. I remember. That's because you're from the hill. I've talked about those. There's a thing that all these stupid West coasters mess up when they start messing around in the music is they make it all mid-tempo and wandering.

And the truth is there's always like a little punk energy. This is what the early agents got right. The early agents was my shit, dude. I was like, who the fuck is this? Go ahead. Yeah. Because they understood you have to like drive somewhere. You got to get to a point and you got to feel like you're kind of come. Because the thing they don't talk

about now, I'm just coming on y'all's podcast to stump about my stuff now. Come back next week and just talk the whole time. We won't do shit. I'd love that. Great. I'll do it for free. I love that even more.

The thing you don't talk about is like hillbilly, and this is what Roger Miller understood, hillbillies are actually kind of crazy. Like, they're always about to fall off the rails. Like I was in, listen to this, I was in group therapy today. That's a red flag when men do it now. It's really kind of horseshoe theory. But like, the thing that I've been trying to convince me, I don't think people understand is like, from where I come from to where I am,

I don't know what's real half the time. And so when I look for a friend, I'm like, I need you to remind me what reality is. That's what you can do for me. Don't glow me up. Just tether me. Make sure I'm not, just tether me. That's all I need. That's the thing that like all these West Coasters,

I'm looking at you rivers and roads, heading a heart bullshit, saying you wish you were a slave and your big hit song. What the fuck is wrong with you? I'm sure they changed. This man is spitting for me. They ain't changed at all, dude. Those people fucking suck. I'll say it right here right now, dude.

I think they changed like even worse than that. I don't know. You know I ain't listening to nothing new in years. No, the head in the heart. That's your time at the head in the heart. They didn't change. Yeah, they got that song. They literally say something about it literally,

the lyric is literally, I wish I was a slave. And then it's to an age old trade or whatever. It's like that, like luminaires. I don't know where they're from. But Denver, Colorado. Worst fucking concert I've ever been. I know.

I was with you. It was incredible, incredibly bad, I mean. Like, I couldn't believe how bad it was. But yeah, anyway. I don't wish I was a slave. I'll go ahead and tell you that much right fucking now. The last seven minutes of this have been so validating.

Not only are you like making me feel seen and agreeing with me. You're also high. You're telling me why I am the way that I am. Damn, that was great. Well, hey, we've only got a few more minutes. If you have anything to plug in terms of a tour, obviously check out airloom. I always ask this question to do. Is there also a place you prefer?

prefer people to get heirloom and how do you want that to go down you know yeah uh look i always love it when you buy merch i really do um because that goes straight to diapers and child care amen um by buy like honestly buy CDs by vinyl um that money doesn't even go to me um please avoid Spotify if you can go to title if you got a stream um but like listening to an analog i i don't write I don't write records just for them to be chopped up and put on playlists. Like listen however you won't. But like if you really, if you really want to buy in, like, they're, literally on my record, I wrote the first song while I was continuing to write the last song

and the entire record loops back into itself because it's an airroom. Like in the way that there's a kind of cycle to it. So I write a record as a record. If you really care about me and my art, which I'm very precious about, obviously. Like, please do that. Listen to it, analog. you know, do something where you've got to, like, actually sit down and do it. I would say do that for any artists.

I think that's just the best way to listen. Well, I can tell you this. I'll do that for my next listen, but I, uh, evilly did listen to it on Spotify the first time. And, uh, but I just want to give people a little, a little tone of, this is, this is what really did it for me the other day is I threw on airloom, took a low dose of mushrooms. And I went out to, uh, historic Civil War battlefield. And I just walked around. The album, I think, is like 43 minutes long or something. it worked out for like a full couple laps for me and it was beautiful and I loved it.

I really enjoyed it so much. So thank you. Yeah, mushrooms at your own discretion, but I find that it enhances almost every experience. That reminds me of something I want to say, Andy got me on, it's the worst named platform of all time, but it's called, I think, COBA's Q-U-O-B-U-D and either they're great at marketing to me or they are doing it correctly and they also have quality you can like use a little bit more memory and you can hear a pretty good version on your phones i've been meaning to like tell people that um so it's it's a it's a streamer but it's good yeah yeah there i mean no streamers perfect but cobus is the best um i will

say i have a very niche bone to pick with them pick um the guy who blew up on ticot in 2020 for c shant yeah his name nathan yeah it is oh yeah i've seen that before and it pulls every time and we keep trying to get a hold of them and they just like kick you to another chat room and so you go in and it's a Scottish guy and like some like whenever the Cuban shirt version of Scottish clothes which is not the worst thing in the world. It's not the worst thing in the world and he does look better than me but yeah they're like they have no clue who I am and they're like this guy's this he's Scottish and it's like no it's not in the same accent and I am going on tour yeah I'm doing a bunch of I'm if you live in the US I'm probably coming to you uh starting up in July hell yeah with I'm touring with mama's broke. the Montaels, my buddy Noah Gunderson, other people. I just did a big tour with Carsey Blanton. She's a real one. She's a real, real one. Oh, yeah.

Do you have the tour dates, you keep them at your website or something, or is there a site for that tour you're talking about? Like, what's the... My website and my band's in town. And I'll be posting about it on all my stuff. And if you want to hear me, yap. Nathan, what's the website?

Nathan Evans-Fox. You go, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I've had it. Nathan Evansfox.com. I'll have it linked in the description to this episode, and you can grab it along with all of his marks.

If they want to find it, they'll find it. Sure. This must be on the radio in the morning. I mean, the guy just spent an hour making it. Yeah. Yeah. Well, tell us, where it's there? I've got it a little better.

Absolutely not. You guys haven't been there. You don't know. Oh, anyway. Well, that sounds fun. Out there on the nebulous internet, People can find it all and they'll enjoy it. Yeah.

I'll link it. I'm a good boy. Or he'll do it. We appreciate you coming. And hey, that substack too, I don't know the actual URL, but it's Nathan Evans Fox and comrades.

I'm a paid comrade. That's right. And I'm a paid comrade. I enjoy it. And I'm hoping to be able to actually like actively participate in the next book thing. I've been a little busy and lazy and fat. But I've been keeping.

To read. Too fat to read. Torrey Ryan Forster, too fat to read. It's an anti-capitals book club, which does mean just it's too fat to read. Well, dude, we appreciate you, man. Thanks, buddy. Appreciate you. Yeah, thank you.

All right. Now, for our plugs here, right? I'll be in, uh, fuck. I'll be in Spartanburg and Wilmington this weekend, San Diego next Sunday. And then Lowell, Arkansas at the Grove in July. and then a whole bunch of places this fall, all of course, at traycrowder.com. Fellers.

I'll be in Athens, Georgia on the 25th for the kickoff party of Ath Fest. I'm also supposed to close on a house that day. So if you come out and see me and I look like I'm in a bad mood, don't talk to me. Something awful has happened, but I should be in a great mood. I fully expect to be officially an Athenian that day. Nice.

I've got New Orleans and all. August, although I might have to move that. Anyway, it's all there. Listen to Gravy, baby. Me, DJ and Carmen, are getting up to a lot of fun stuff. Oh, hey, me. Corey Wrights for You.com. That's my substack.

Listen to putting on airs. And listen to Weekly Scus. I don't know if Trey already said that, but that's it. Yeah, Corey rights for you.com. Oh, June 24th, I'll be at the Comedy Catch in Chattanooga, Tennessee for the sequel of the Muslims Are Coming Tour. Corey, real quick, before you sing us out, just so I don't forget to say it. You should do the fake Aaron Lewis character thing because you can sing and stuff.

I should do that. That should be one of your guys. And I've been making beats since wrong. Jerry Mandor, but for that. That's great. I can put my MIDI keyboard to use. I'm going to fucking do that this afternoon. No little Nathan would be satirizing the thing and that don't hit for him.

And you'll make it very on the nose too. I'm going to do everything Nathan said sucks. And I'll probably have a lot of success. Because that's how comedy works, but you know. Yeah. All right. Thank you all for listening to The Well Red Show. We love to stick around longer, but we got to go.

Tune in next week if you got nothing to do. Thank you. God bless you. Good night and skew. Fart. Fart. But.