wellRED podcast - People Sure Do Love Murder!

Episode Date: June 4, 2025

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but don't give a fun. They're the liberal rednecks that makes some people upset. They got three big old dicks that you can sun. Like legit, OZMPIC? Look, I don't know how it works. I just know that they, meaning like I don't know how you can get on it how easily or whatever, but I know that like weight loss stuff is one of their categories that they have. Yeah, you can get on it or like we go be pretty easy, Corey.

I'm going to be honest, I keep waiting on you to do it. I mean, I've lost like 15 pounds in the first. past two weeks, but I did it the old school way, and that don't hit. Well, you realize the way that works is it makes you, it makes it easier to do it the old school way. Yeah, because you don't want to eat as much. Right, but like, yeah. So there's no hits.

And when you do eat, it's, I think it's like not great. Honestly, I need that. Like, I need something to make heat and not hit as hard because like if that, if, if I can't, that's it. That's why I'd be fat. Because like foods, this is just. It'd be two seasons. It'd be two seasons.

It'd be two seasons. It really do. It really, really do. I mean, God, damn, son. It'd be funny if you got on that stuff and you didn't lose any way. And you're still, yeah, it is harder to eat it all now, but should just be two seasons. Nevertheless, he persists. It was a 10.

Now it's an eight. That's what Tracy Morgan did. I assume we're going, right. We're going to keep this in here. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, Tracy Morgan, he got on on Zipick and gained like 20 pounds. And he said his statement on that was I out ate the O-Zempic. You can't keep a good man down.

He's an OZPian. Stuff just hit. Hit too hard. The last time we, what did y'all do last week? I was in Salina. Did you? That's through it. I threw the dinosaur argument up.

Good choice. Yeah. Yeah. And we got to, it was, it was fun because there was a lot of people who were like, you know, very they were like, oh, man, if you're going to throw. a repeat up, this is the best one. But then there was a lot of people that like, damn, I didn't start listening to the podcast like two years ago and I didn't even know this existed.

And they were like, what the fuck? Yeah. Pretty wild. Yeah. By the way, apparently we can stop doing the podcast now. Like, Mark Marion just quit. And I was not aware you could do that. So.

Well, he quit one that hits, you know. I know. That's the thing. We can't quit ours until we know there will be an article written about it if we do. That's my thing. Right. Yeah. He's not quitting until the fall, right?

Like he announced the end, but he hasn't quit yet. He's like turned in his three-month notice. He's talking before, because I still listen to that show periodically when it's got a hitting guest on there. And he's talked before about like, you know, maybe being thinking that he might be about done. Yeah. Well, he's been acting a lot more. What is he 60 something? He's been in the game for a long time.

You know he's made a shitload of money. And he's just like. He just like retires, like, good for him. That's what people are supposed to do. But in entertainment, people don't ever. People don't ever do that. But that, and I don't know that he's going to do that. I'm just saying on the show, he's been hinting for a while at, like, just hanging it all up.

Like, stand up to say. He's not sure if he has anything left to say. He's had a ton of, like, not that he hasn't always, but the past couple years he's had, like, more actors consistently on the show than he ever has. And, like, he usually always talks to them, like, they talk shop about acting. And Marin talks about how he's really, you know, gotten into it. And he really, and I think he's good. Everything he's in, I think he's good. I kind of hope that's what it is, that he's, like, really going to start taking his acting career more seriously.

You know what I mean? Yeah. Could be that. The last time I was on here, so two weeks ago, I told you I was going to the allergist later, you know, because we were talking about me being allergic to. And as I always said, half jokingly, as far as I can tell, I'm a little. allergic to just being awake, being alive, reality, the air that we all breathe. That's what I think I'm allergic to. Everybody, you know, and I was going to this allergist finally, and Katie would say things like, you know,

can't wait to see what you're allergic to or whatever, you know, or if you're allergic to anything. And I was like, Katie, I know that I'm allergic to something. My fucking nose runs all the time. I have sneezing fits. Like, it's not just nothing, you know. So I went to the allergist and I got the little. pin print things that they do. And it turns out I am allergic to literally nothing.

But... I do it. I saw it coming a mile away. But here's the thing, though. The diagnosis that he gave me that he thinks it is, it's some big, some big long, very medical-sounding name that I've already forgotten. But what it means is the lining of your sinuses, the nerves and the lining of your sinuses are more sensitive and susceptible to everyday irritants, right,

that we all breathe every day. We all breathe every day. And the vast majority of people are not affected by because we're like adapted to it. So it's not treating. And grass. Yes. That's where I was going with that. That's where I was going with that.

So I was going to say, technically I'm allergic to nothing. But I think you can. could easily argue that in effect, I am literally allergic to everything, to being awake, to reality, all that stuff I was jokingly said. I am literally allergic to it all. So he's like, look, you passed all our tests, but we don't really test for being a huge pussy in the nose. Yeah. And I think you're just good a test. Yeah. My nose just don't hit. Shocker.

Labia. Yeah, but he, having said that, he did give me nose spray for nose not hititis, which I have. Does that burn? No, it actually works. It's, it's, it's still coming. This is still going to be Raven, I'm assuming, at the end of the day, when it's all sudden done, because it works, but I've only been on it for like a week, and it's like,

I'm already building a tolerance to it. Yeah. You get addicted to that shit, too. Like only a weekend. So that doesn't bode well. Like when I first got it and I sprayed it up there, I was like, oh my God, this shit works like a fucking charm. And it does. But I'm, you know, needing more and more of it.

And your genes were like, not on our watch, buddy. Yeah. And also, I don't know if I even said this or not, but the main reason I even went to that allergist is because to see if it was affecting my sleep, like my sleep doctor referred me to the allergist because, you know, I've got put on a sleep doctor who determined that nothing could be done about you? Well, no, I mean, that's why he sent me here was like, let's see if this is it. Yeah.

And if this ain't it, then nothing can be done for you, right? So what I'm saying is, I've gone and done this and I've gotten this nose spray that does work. It does treat my symptoms. So I feel like that's effectively treated and has been for more than a week. and it has made zero difference on the sleep problems. Will you do one thing? I know you are.

But will you do one thing? Would you try one thing? What? For my wife? Mouth tape. Yeah, no, I've actually been meaning to get the mouth tape. I really have. You're duct tape.

I'm going to go ahead and actually, I'm just literally going to order it right now. Because I just had an image. That was one of those where I was like, I saw somebody do it. You know, like, I don't know, I was camping or something. And I was like, I already wearing the Bain mask. It looks like kidnapping himself. It can't look much dumber. I've already got the big machine hooked up to my face.

I've got like a sleep mask on. I look insane. But I mean, it looked like it wasn't going to work. It looked like the most mammal shit, but like not the good mamma. The other one, you know what I mean? I tape the baby's mouth shut. Like, it just looked awful. But the first thing I noticed, Andy has halatose.

that you, I mean, she will make your eyes water in the morning. That shit went away night one, dog. Night one. Next thing I know, though, Andy used to sleep if you didn't set an alarm. She would sleep till one, like a teenager. Yeah, me too. And she was like, I don't know, I just, I toss and turn to a lot. After like three days, that went away.

She did say it was hard to get used to for a minute. Yeah, I would feel very claustrophobic-ish. I feel maybe that's not the right word, but. That would, that would fuck with me, I think. But yeah, with that, I, too, when my sinuses get real bad, my breath will be just so horrible. Because, like, apparently there's your mouth breathing all night. Exactly, for sure, because I found this out later. It's like the thing in gum that makes your breath hit the most is not necessarily the mint in it.

It's that you're lubricating your mouth and you're keeping the saliva going instead of it being stagnant. And I was like, well, that makes sense because I'm just drying my fucking. mouth out. One other thing that can be related to all that, have you ever heard any doctors talk about your tongue setting, like where it's play. I don't know if that makes any,

I don't know if I'm saying it correct. It like falls back in the back of your mouth and it blocks your mouth. Your tongue does. Yeah. Like a bulldog? Yeah. So did the doc look into that? Yeah.

Like is that where you've heard of it from one of those doctors? Yeah, yeah. Well, that I think that's like part of just what. sleep apnea is, is that that happens. And I have sleep apnea. I don't remember if I told you all this or not. Like, I do have sleep apnea, but he said I have the mildest form of sleep apnea you can have. Yet I have some of the most severe symptoms of it. Yeah. Which he did say as possible. He was like, he was like some people, he's like, he's like, yeah, people can have severe like, it might kill them any night level sleep apnea and have no daytime symptoms of it. He was like, we're at,

is you, you barely have sleep apnea at all. You must live. But you live forever in pain. You are just wrecked by it and just abjected you misery every day. To a lengthy, horrible existence. Yes. Don't worry about it. We can treat that with a machine.

And I came back a month later and he's like, the machine is working great. You still don't hit somehow. Like sometimes it just doesn't matter. I just had a vision of Trey trying to shoot himself. And the bullet bounce off his head. I mean like he just can't. He can't escape it.

You put it out like the Hulk. You mean like ADD? No. I don't know what, just a stimulant so I see no way that can go off the rails. Huh. Hey, I'm not sleeping good, Doc.

All right, here's an upper. No, no, no, no, no, no. Hey, right. Yeah. Dude, you should have just went to one of your boys. You're telling me that after all this, the doctors just be like, all right, dude, how about Coke?

You want to take it? Yeah, well, he don't know what else to do. He's like a 1800s doctor. I'll take it too. This doctor rules, man. God. Yeah, that myth will do it. Let's hang out with your doctor.

Yeah, that myth. This will be literally the first doctor I've ever had in my life who might give me something that hits. But I bet that whatever this thing is, he prescribes me, I bet it don't hit. But we'll see. No. It's time released. If you want it to hit, you're going to have to crack it open and shit, push it up. Yeah.

It'll look. four of them at a time. I hope he doesn't somehow hear this episode of this podcast. It'll, yeah, it'll be one of them that, like, when he finally looks you up,

God, that'd be so funny. Yeah. Because that's, that's the thing about doing Adderall. It's like, yeah, obviously the main reason you wanted is because you need to stay up so you can

work on stuff, but you still want that little meth buzz. You know what I mean? Like, you still want that little, yeah, I mean, I don't think it's going to be Adderall.

I think maybe there's stuff called medaphynal or whatever, which is like, uh, A Game of Thrones princess. Yeah, as I understand it, it's like, you know, it ain't like Adderall. That chick who could fill a peat in the bed, yeah. It don't hit like Adderall.

It's like, it just keeps you awake, I think. I like the things that hit is what I like. Listen, me too. But see, the things that hit, they get you in trouble. Yeah. Shut the fuck up for two seconds. I want to just go back that Corey, his baseline was, now Adderall's four staying up so you can work on stuff.

That was his bait line. He's like, listen, we all know that you abuse Adderall when you've been on a hard run and you need to get something turned in. There's no, like, you know, we all know, not like ADHD. Anyway, that really did it for me. This is like the time he said on stage without realizing why it was funny, the best way to be sober is to do mushrooms. That's what I've found. Couldn't agree more. Actually, I have a new one sincerely, and I'm blown away.

And I'm not even going to show the brand because we're not sponsored by them. but the best way to stay sober is by drinking fucking non-alcoholic beers is the way to go, dude. I'm loving these motherfuckers. Yeah, that and Topo Chico works, man. Bro, like, I'm telling you, I thought I was like, well, this will be a phase. But, like, it was like a couple weeks ago, I was just like, man, I really want a beer, but I ain't trying to get drunk. And I had it.

I was like, I'll have a non-alcoholic beer. And I've just been having like two a day. Like, that's it. But it's like, turns out I just like drinking beer. And, you know, getting drunk, a hitting consequence of that, sure. but like I still like it. Yeah. You got your bits about it?

I've been doing a bit about it. No, I haven't. No, I don't have anything about it. I mean, this guy was, I got one at a bar and this guy goes, non-alcoholic. You like that better? So the bit is like, no, literally the opposite. You fucking idiot. I like them too much.

Corey, how many calories are in those non-alcoholic? Wow, okay. Yeah. And like I said, I only have to. Like, there's no reason for me to drink seven. Yeah, is the best. Big brand. I like Coors Edge.

You can find Guinness Zero. It rules. Now, I'm going to say, I don't fuck with the IPAs. Athletics, pretty good with a logger. I had one last night at dinner,

and unfortunately, the one they brought me was the IPA, and it straight up just tasted like weed. Yeah, it's gross. But it was still better than having a walk. Because we were out, we had an anniversary dinner, and we were outside.

The weather was good. It was on a golf course. I was like, I can't drink a fucking water. Like, bring me a goddamn beer, you know? I get these ads. all the time for these sparkling mushroom drinks, but they're not, they're not like psychedelics. It's like Rishi or whatever.

And I would never buy that for my house. Yeah, I would never buy that for my house. But if I saw that while out, I would do that. Another thing is non-hard kombucha does it for me. I like, yeah, because it's fermented. It kind of got that stank to it. So they have to take it out, I guess. Yeah, I guess you're right.

Maybe we're just getting a little drunk when we drink kombucha. I do think most of these things are like 0.05, which is wild that alcoholics. You ever think that's strange? Like I got a friend who's like apparently a bad alcoholic. She's been sober a decade. She's a bartender though and she'll try the drink. Yeah, no. I mean, look, I'm not going to deny that if it works for her, it works.

But like I feel like that's dangerous. That's dangerous. Wait, what? Try the drink, but she's like me trying to drink. I've done the road with Fitzsimmons. He doesn't drink. Has it in years. He has that German non-outreference.

call it. That one's fire. If you can get it, I can't remember what it's called. It's got a white label. And it's unbelievable. Wait. I looked at it. It's like 0.5% alcohol. He has like three of them.

I'm like, damn, you just, you had a, I'm not trying to shit on him. It's working for him. I'm saying like that kind of blows my mind. Right. But that, you can't even feel that. Yeah, but yeah, but see, that would be the point is I feel like you would convince yourself. You feel it a little bit. You know, well, if I have five, you know, like just because, dude, I remember one time Isbel, like,

he didn't have like a meltdown or nothing, but like he had one time he accidentally, I think it was he accidentally swallowed some mouthwash or something. Yeah. And like he sort of had an existential crisis over like whether he did it on purpose or not. And he like couldn't decide, you know what I mean? And like he had to go to a meeting or whatever. Dude, I swear I remember it. He accidentally did and then looked at it and drank the rest.

Okay. Maybe that's right. But either way, I'm just saying like for real bad alcoholics, like anything with alcohol in it is. What did you say about you? You said you have an out real bad alcohol. that alcoholic friend who's a bartender? Yeah. That's wild.

And also, you said she tries the drink. What do you mean? She tries the drinks. Like, I've seen her mixed drinks, you know, and it's like, a lot of bartenders will be like, okay, that's right. You know, they put the spoon in it and they put it on their tongue. Right. Well, that's, yeah, I think you could do that sort of thing.

I didn't either. I didn't either, but I'm saying like lots of people. I mean, lots of people do it. Yeah. I don't think that. Maybe they're not as bad alcoholics as they thought they were because I feel like I would immediately just start fucking eating that drink like cereal with that. And y'all's hometowns, you guys have barking spiders?

I describe it. I thought that was a fart. It is. Thank you. Oh, nice. Okay. Dude, I like, I'd like to blow my mind. No.

I thought you were talking about a drink at first, and then I was like, wait, no, he means spiders. So, Corey, you don't, you'd never heard barking spiders? This sounds familiar to me, but not enough to be like, oh, yeah, yeah. We were coming back from a school function, walking back to our car recently, and I farted real loud. And Katie was like, Trey, whatever. And I was like, I was like, what? She was like, I heard that. And I was like, what, that barking spider, right?

I was like, just a barking spider. And she started laughing, but she was like, she said she never heard that before. And I was like, what? You never heard that before? I may have. And then I was wanting to ask y'all because I thought I was talking to Thompson about it. And he remembered. And I thought for a minute it might be like, Elt or something.

Like it was much more localized than I realized it was. But Drew's, you know, Morgan counties, we're both up here. Well, I'm not there now. But Clay County and Morgan County are not far apart as the crow flies. So it still could be. They didn't have barking spiders in Wayne County and apparently also not chickamauga so i'm still it's still heartbreaking fart huh did her family fart uh no not really but i'm boys at school farted yeah that's true also you you fart your

family farts and you don't we fart you don't know you don't know you don't know i know i'm just saying like boys at school hold on though let me say that i think i've only really ever heard my parents generation say it and like maybe us every once in a while Really? When I was in high school, all the redneck old boys all the time, right? You're at Barking Spider? After they'd fart real loud. Yeah, we would never blame our farts on something else.

You know what I mean? Well, I mean, it was understood that you had also farted. It was just a funny thing to say. But no, I never heard old people say it. Of course, he thinks there's guys who think they're getting away with it. Yeah, right now. You're right now. They didn't believe that.

Oh man farting I mean I guess I'm the real stupid one because I thought that's what you were about to tell me try I was like wait a minute that's not just farting that's really like a thing well I didn't want to in the event that you guys didn't have

that saying I didn't want to give it away you know so I wanted to make it sound like I was asking about an actual animal but you thankfully had heard the heard the idiom before which I think is very funny. Like actually imagine. Yeah, it's great. I'm going to start using it.

Well, imagine an actual spider that barks and it sounds like a fart. It's very, it would be very funny. Oh. Oh, yeah. Where do you? They've never been quite clean slated like that on this program. Yeah. I said something in my video yesterday.

You tell me, I know there's been like versions of this. for sure. But did I just straight up steal this like verbatim? I said, a man would be better off running ass first through a field of wainer weeds. Is that a thing? I love it. I love it.

I mean, I'd like to think you stole it from me, but I never actually said it. I would like to think that you just crawled into my brain and it was up there somewhere because that's fucking great. Well, good. As first into a,

run ass first through a field. Run ass first through a field. the wainer wades did you did y'all see that thing i sent earlier about it was Arnold Schwarzenegger and his son talking yes then I saw the weenie he saw your your butt and then I sent the weenie I'm fucking I wonder if there was like a cut part where he goes and then your brother jack you off right I was about to say

people who haven't seen it yet yeah I haven't seen it but I heard that the brother there's brothers jacking each other off I'm still kind of interested to see how the hell that comes about. We just watched the first episode finally, like last night, no, the night before.

But I, yeah, it's some brothers jacking each other off, but in like a, you know, well, I won't spoil it, but it was tasteful.

Okay. You know, as that goes. All right. It was brotherly. Yeah, it was pretty brotherly. Also,

I did not know that was Schwarzenegger's son until very recently. I did not aware of it. Yeah. Did you watch Jen V? Yeah, he was the main, he was the fucking golden boy. Golden boy, yeah.

I still did. I didn't even know when I watched that that was Schwarzen, but through watching that and then reading like the Reddit threads about it and stuff, that I found out then that he was Schwarzenegger's son. Jimby hit for you? Oh, yeah. I love it. Yeah, I love it.

The whole boys, the boys itself and Jimby, that whole world is like, I love that shit. Yeah, no matter how much. I'm a big, woke liberal queer and it's woke propaganda. So of course it hits for me. Of course. I do. I love it too. I've re-watched both of those probably two or three times, I think.

I got a friend who loves GenVee, but thinks the boys is disgusting. That makes it no sense. I know. That's what I tell her. I'm like, what do you mean? Like, Jim V was just as fucking gory and insane. I guess, you know, maybe they had just seen the boys episode where the dude runs through a dickhole.

And then or whatever. Which that was my favorite scene in the show. Yeah. The opposite of that happens in Gen V. That one girl makes herself tiny and jumps on a dick and like, rides it back and forth like a palm tree blowing in the wind or something. That's true. Remember that?

Yeah, I don't know if it's. What's your name? Little chipper. What's her name? The fuck. I can't matter. Little cricket.

Little cricket. Yeah. She made herself cricket sized and rode a guy's wiener. Did she sell percassettes? I think I grew up with a little cricket. A little cricket. I see, Pete Ridge. Dude, man, let me tell you all how old I feel, okay?

All right. Before you do, let me just go back on another thing. Real quick, Corey, this person you're talking about, have you considered, because this is something that keeps coming up with me since I'm living back here, that that person is really stupid. Well, it's Rebel from AW, and yes, I've told her to her face that sometimes she can be stupid. A lot. But yeah, I don't get, I told it.

My only theory was like, I was like, well, you know, Rebels are very positive, hopeful, person and at least the kids in Gen V had a future ahead of them, whereas in the boys, they're all broken old heroes that are just completely... There's definitely a lot of people like that. There's definitely a lot of people who, like, if the characters seem like they're too cynical, they're out. Yeah. My mom's a little bit like that.

But that's... Like, if the character seems cynical, she's out. Couldn't be more in. If the character seems hopeful, but it's a gnarly crazy show, she'll be like, it's kind of sweet. I can't stand hope most of the time. I hope. No, wrong me. now I'm a big you know that's my Game of Thrones hit for me it was all so so futile so many things in it you know uh

Gary, speaking of brother. What are you going to say, Corey? I interrupted you. I was talking to my mom yesterday, and I'm not going to name the business because I ain't trying to put nobody out on front street, especially because it's allegations. But around my area, there had been this business that had closed, right? And it was like, oh, what a bummer. And I've just recently found out from my mom that they didn't get their lease renewed or whatever because somebody found out that they was running drugs out the back of it. You know what I mean?

And like, my mom is telling me. me this shit and I ain't heard nothing about it. Back in the day, man, there was no illegal drug operation in my county that I didn't fucking know about. Okay. It was like, you know what I mean? Like, I just felt, I was like, God damn, man, I had a kid and now like nobody tells me where to pills is.

I mean, like, I'm glad I don't want to do them, but like I just felt so disconnected from my culture. You know what I mean? And my mom knew about it. You said how old I feel. I don't think it's age thing. Like, you know what I mean? There's some 50-year-old toothless pill billy.

still very plugged in. Yeah, maybe I'm just getting too mature. I think they are not telling you because you have a kid. I think that is accurate. I think that there are people in your life who are like, yeah, don't tell Corey. I wouldn't rat or nothing. I mean, I might not take them, but like I just like to know what's happening. You know what I mean?

I think you might take them. I do look like a gnarc now, I guess. It's not that. They're trying to protect you. Why are you not understanding that? You're taking it personally, and these people are just trying to keep you safe. Yeah. Yeah, that's what these guys are known for.

Yeah, keeping people safe. They've gotten older too, man. That's true. Speaking of taking stuff that hits, let's talk about Hems. What do you think? If ED's been getting you down and you want to be up, talking about your wainter getting up, staying there, you know what I mean? Well, if you feel that way, you need Hems to help you get your confidence and other things

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But like, speaking of brothers, I know you ain't jacking him off or nothing, but your brother's back around, right? And like, how's that going? How long did he end up being in for? And how's he like a Justin, you know. Furt near 13 years. It's a long time. Oh, man, let me think about what I do want to talk about and don't. I mean, it's like, look, compared to what?

you know, and I'm not saying it's an unfair question. It's like, how's it going? Well, it's fucking hard and it sucks. But I'm also like when I talk to people who have any sort of familiarity with this type of thing, there's like a lot of positives. Do you know what I mean? The most recent one that I don't mind talking about that was kind of wild. I mean, look, he's institutionalized.

Right. And some of that stuff is like kind of funny. some of it's annoying like some of it's getting permission to pee like in fucking uh chosha he doesn't i mean he doesn't do that but it's like kind of funny how like like he whispers a lot if there's other people around and then that like bothers people but it's like he's being polite because you know where he was you were supposed to whisper because there were no fucking walls when you're out on the yard um and then there's like stuff that's annoying

and then there's stuff that's God-awful. One that I don't think he'd mind me talking about. I don't really care about that, but one that I don't mind talking about, I guess, is so he's got tattoos that are not great. Oh, okay. That was the best way I've ever heard anybody put that. Yeah, because I'm assuming you don't mean quality-wise.

They're not like, well, that too, probably. I don't mean they're shitty. They're shitty and they're shitty. Yeah, right. And he's talking to me about it. And the way it came up was this other dude who had been in and got out before him from our town, came up to him and was like, what's up, brother?

You know, you got to go to a meeting with me. And my brother's like, can you believe he still wants to do that shit? And I'm like, yeah. Yes. Some people, do you think no one believes in that stuff? Like, what are we talking about, you know? And he's like, well, I can see if you get out and you, screw up your parole getting high because at least that's fun how you go screw up your parole going to a damn meeting like that and i was like

because he liked it he's proud of that they love it's right there in the tattoo he's proud so proud boy is he proud so but that was like an interesting conversation that was a hard thing for me too because we're talking about it and he's talking about getting some covered and like which ones and you know because he has various things he's gotten there and i'm talking to andy about it later and i'm like man, I just, I can live with he did that. I don't like it. And people say, oh, you got no choice. It's not true.

You have no choice. You have no choice if you want to be involved. Like, you have no choice if you don't want to just lay low. Like, you have no choice if you're interested in being a part of whatever, whether it's getting high, getting a bunch of cigarettes, making money, having access to cell phones and shit like that. Like, in other words, if you want to follow the rules and just keep you. your head down and go to the library.

No, like, it's a myth that you have to do that for, no one will fuck with you. But if you're running game and then you rip off the vice lords, they're going to kill you

if you don't, if you're not protected. Yes, but you didn't have to run game and rip off the vice lords. So I don't let it go, but I can, I can wrap my head around it.

But what I was struggling with, he was like, well, I thought about keeping the pride one, He goes, I believe in white pride. I believe in black pride. I believe in Mexican pride. And I was like, you see how you didn't say brown pride?

You see how like, but then I'm like, what comment, what argument am I going to have with this person? Do you know what I mean? We're still trying to teach him how to use an ATM card. Right. You know what I mean? Yeah. Or not an ATM card. I'm sorry, online, paying for stuff online.

Yeah, that's like, hell they, y'all didn't have 18. in 2012? Um, so it's very, so genuinely, super strongly. There may be a time where I have to be like, look, dude, you know, you do whatever you want, but I'm not going to have that around my kid and me not call it out. Like as a dad, I can't just let my son think I'm cool with that. I'm not. But then on the other hand, I'm like.

when do we have that? It's very strange. And there are sadder versions of that stuff that occur, and that's really hard. Sadder meaning like he's still institutionalized, so his whole thing is like, I got to get these damn tattoos covered up because what if I'm out with my family and someone sees it and says something to me, and then I lose my mind and, you know, end up hurts.

And I'm like, no, bitch, you got to get them covered up because that's crazy. You can't have that. If you're like having this wild scenario about why, no, you can't have that on your body because it's gross. Right. So that's strange. There are even sadder versions of that just in terms of like him relating to his children and stuff like that. So that's really hard. But then there's also like good stuff.

Like he doesn't know how to text. So he either sends me one word answers or long paragraphs. And he's funny. I don't remember him being funny. I guess he was always high. My brother, I don't remember my brother ever making me laugh. He makes me laugh all the time now. So it's, I guess,

around a lot of black foods in prison. Yeah. Well, I was going to say, I guess it's Yen and Yang, which is probably one of the ones we're going to get to cover it up. It's not awful, and that's good. He's struggling as anyone would, and that's difficult. And, you know, then there's like resentment and pain. And then there's empathy.

And, you know, it's going. It's going okay. Where's he saying that? Is he staying with them? He's standing with his son, Jake, next door. And initially, that was not the plan at all. But then his kids got very vocal about like, there was a plan of him going to, my parents have a cabin in Kentucky.

his kids got very vocal about like so you get out and you leave us again and so that was kind of relented upon but I think my mom's gonna like shoot him just because it's like he's there just kind of hanging out maybe instead of getting it covered up he could just get another word beside it

and people be like he just likes Reggie White you know what I mean like he's just a big fan yeah that's fine and Reggie Wide Pride really liked Wind I guess. Reggie wipe pride. Reggie's looking out the window. God, damn.

I mean, would you be, I know you said this isn't how it works. And I'm, I know, so I'm just kidding around right now, but like just a hypothetical. Would you join Nazis to keep your butt unfucked,

Joe, do you think? Oh, great. All right. I thought this is for everybody, but, um, so, and this is a completely binary

situation. It's like I either get my butt fucked or I become a Nazi. Well, no, I said join Nazis. So it's like because Drew was like, oh, you can pretend. Well, his brother was like, do you believe that guy still wants to do that or whatever? Yeah. So it's like, you could just be a prison Nazi. It's like how sometimes people are

like, it ain't gay if you're underway, right? Navy. In the Navy, right? It's like, you just it's okay to be gay in that situation. Maybe it's like, you know, in your head, you're like, well, I was just a prison Nazi to keep. keep my butt unfucked. I'm not a real Nazi. And in this situation, I can't, there's no other gangs that'll have me.

Like it's- I don't think so. All right. Yeah, 100%. You're sure I can't get in with a Mexican dude? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know.

I mean, if you were in on the outside, you'd be able to do that. Like if you came in, vice lorded up or whatever, MS-13, you know, and your nickname was white boy, but no, I don't think you could just join it. I'll say, I'll say this. think, I'd like to believe that I'd probably grunt through a couple butt fucks before making my allegiance known to the Nazi party. You know what I mean? I'll be like, let's see how, but I do think after a while, um, it'd get to me.

And, uh, also, honestly, after that happened to me several times, I might just legit want to be a Nazi. You know what I mean? You're going to say, what if it was the white's doing it? You're like, after it happened, had to happen to me a couple times. I might just be all right with that. I might just want to keep. That too.

Like, I've made... He's a white doing it as much. Like, and also, no, it wouldn't. That's not how it works. But let me say this too. Because I want to, like, elucidate a little bit here. What I think you would do, knowing you, and most people would do, is just, like, be a part of it kind of in order to get by. You don't have to get the tattoos.

Right. To, like, play for the team. You got to get the tattoos to be a cat. to be a captain and the starting quarterback. Yeah, and I ain't trying to do that. And that's where my brother, like, that's where I don't have a lot of sympathy for him. Yeah, I just want to be in. Like, you didn't do this to protect yourself.

You did this to protect yourself after you put yourself in danger because you wanted to be the man. See, I just want to be a regular 9 to 5 Nazi riding a desk. Like, I'm not trying to be no fucking team leader. I'm not trying to get overtime. You know what I mean? I just want to be employed. Nazi of the month, not me, never, you know. You're just responsible for all the N-Words jokes at the,

I could bring that to the table. I could be the jester for the Nazis. That'd be amazing. I'd be so good at that. I got all of them on lock. I mean, I isolate that. Isolate that. Yeah.

I mean, dude, I don't, and it's, it's probably different in every, you know, situation. But the other thing you got to realize, too, I mean, look, they're not Nazi. Like, they do do the swastika thing. It's strange. Ariens is the number one. Well, Aryans are the number one, whatever, as far as I know, in there. But it is odd because, like, like, a lot of, like, there'll be more than one black gang.

And if a race riot pops off, they will fight together. But otherwise, they're competing. Right. Like crips and bloods. My understanding is that's rare for the whites. And then those whites in there, who have a lot of white pride, claim it's like, yeah, that's proof we're better than them. And then other people point out, well, yeah, there's 18 of you.

You have to come to get, like, there's literally no other way you could survive in here. Right. So it's just, honestly, here's the thing that was funny. There's a guy who he served with who is out and has a podcast and has been on 85 South. I don't know who this guy is because I've never heard of this or whatever. But he was asking me about that. He was like, hey, it's got to, like, be weird sometimes to put yourself out there and, like, be a public figure and blah, blah, blah. But, like, is it worth it or whatever?

And I'm like, are you thinking about doing a YouTube? He goes, I don't know. He's like, I know that that guy lies all the time and get the way with it. And he said, and I also know that he does stuff that I was naive about. Like, that was a very interesting conversation. and he was like, some of the stuff this dude says, I really thought, you know, the guy's dad is still in prison. He's like, I would have locked up with Charleston White?

I don't think Charleston White was in Tennessee. That would have been a hell of a time. This is a white guy. Oh, okay. He said, I would have thought this guy's dad would have got hurt. Right, because the shit he's talking. He was out here doing all this. He goes, I guess I was naive.

And I was like, that makes sense to me, Dustin, like as somebody who's been involved in the justice system, but very differently from you. Because while you're in there, everything's important, everything's right there. But like, yeah, dude, they may threaten you, like, you get out. They don't, why would they care? It ain't affecting them. Right. So, yeah, I might try to make it. I know who this fucking guy is now.

I don't think he's going to want to do that. Yeah. Yeah, that'd be a hell of a thing if fucking, if fucking poop just started hitting harder than us on YouTube. I mean, you know, good for him. But hell yeah, I'd be all for it. I'm not, I wouldn't be mad. I, you know, I'm not going to lie. I'd be a little bit.

It hurt. Yeah, right. It would hurt, but I'd still be happy for him. Yeah. I told him how to do it. I was like, this dude's like, I was like, this dude's been big enough to go on 85 South. And he's like, yeah, I go, well, the first thing you do, start talking shit on him. You start pointing out everything you lied about and calling him a narc.

I was like, controversy is the way forward. Now that's 100% true. But shit, now I'm fucking, welcome back to Poop's Corner. Shooting the poop. But, uh, the poop shoot. The poop shoot. Yeah.

Oh my God. It's pretty good. That's actually pretty good. The poop shoot S-H-O-O-T. Oh. Poop shoot. Oh. I think bad.

Hell now I think you should start it. But like prison. content definitely would hit for people. Hell, I'd watch it. I don't, you know. Me too. And I'm sure there's plenty of it that already exists, but who gives a fuck? Everybody, everybody, there's tons of all kinds of everything.

Nothing new under the sign. Right. And anything you can name that hits on the internet, there's already a million different versions of it anyway. So, but you know, like, like that, you know, like that fucking ex-gangster guy, like Italian mafia guy who's always like, Sammy the Bull. Sammy the Bull.

No, Michael Franziano or whatever. Michael Franzian. Well, yeah, again, there's several of them. Right. Yeah. And it's always like, yeah, man. You know what I mean? He talks about what mafia life was like and that dude. He's a rat. Right. Yeah, exactly. But like, you just do that. But with prison shit. Yeah. He's to a prison cooking show. That's just his point sort of. It seems like most of the interesting stuff, you kind of have to break the code to do it. Right. And he's like, and I just, I just didn't think you could get away with that for very long.

but this is a this is not why I'm like this is a microcosm this is an example there have been many instances I think of this type of thing this is a perfect example of whatever it is about me like hold me back I absolutely

had the thought dude I know how to do all this but you have a fucking podcast in two weeks with graphics a platform like I know how to do the hash like we could start and I just thought yeah I just don't want to do that that's what I end up doing like that's what breaks me through is I'm just sitting here listening to my brother talk about butt fucking vice lords like I don't that's a lot man I'm I'm ready to click I'll tell you that much right now but yeah no I hear you so are his sons and dog you know what I'm saying I'm just making the joke I completely agree with you 100% but uh because yeah we we all have we have a tendency to attempt to monetize things that we probably ortoned uh Well, it was his idea.

Yeah, right. If he wants to do the poop shoot, you know. Not just monetized, but also, like, comedically. It's like, man, this, like, I could see as objectively how funny this would be to someone who isn't me. Yeah, right. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah. Well, you know, you can make like a documentary or something.

How about that? Yeah, there you go. Make it serious. Yeah, that's always worked for me. Right. Yeah, but it could, inconvenient poop. Either way you want to go. I'm not talking about any jokes related to that.

Sorry. Oh, God. Well, we're full of it today, ain't we? I'll tell you why. By the way, Jesse, that 50 cent, has reached out to Trump, or he's trying, he's attempting to reach out to Trump because he heard that Trump was thinking about pardoning Pete Ditty and 50 cents doing everything he can to make sure that that shit don't happen. Yeah.

And I believe he'll be successful because Trump just wants to be liked. Yeah. And if he finds out cool black people don't want him to do that, he won't do it. Exactly. Unless for money, unless for money. Yeah, somebody made the point because somebody had just asked him about Ditty or whatever. And he's like, yeah, you know, we might could do a pardon or whatever. And they're like, Trump is the type of dude's like,

literally you can ask him fucking anything you can be made up shit and he will answer back with like we're having people look into it like that was blanket answer to everything that was mark mark said it was it was mark wasn't it yeah yeah it is so true it's so fucking true like everything he can't he could never say the words i don't know what you're talking about or what is that like he just has to be like yeah you know we're we're looking into it a lot of people are talking about it it's fucking nuts um i would like to see how his people handled it if he did float you know if he tried to pardon p did he because i mean you know they're supposed to be the ones defending children against the perversions of the world

and i think they'd just be like yeah we did it he hits for us go fuck yourself essentially on white house stationary official official statement from the white house would basically say that that's what i think i don't know why they'd switch it up in any real way at this point you know. Yeah, I haven't, it's funny. Like, we have more, like, this Diddy Trial is not, it's obviously big. It's obviously a big deal and big thing. But I hadn't really heard, I mean, I've seen some transcripts or whatever, but it hasn't

really popped off OJ style, even though now, but it's funny because what we are, like, now we have more access to it than ever. And it's just like, I guess the world's so fucking crazy. And we have access to literally everything that the P.D. thing just sort of fits in there. That doesn't happen yet either, right? Yeah. Is it not wrong?

I don't know. I thought it was going on. I thought there was talk about Kid Cuddy was going to testify like a week or two ago. Yeah. And somebody, yeah, and somebody called him as like fucking young thug or whatever like was online, calling him a snitch or whatever.

Which is so stupid. He's a goddamn pedophile. Like, fuck you. Also, it's not even just that. It's like you're not, he's not, it's not like they were in league together.

And Cuddy is rolling over on him to save his own ass. Like, did he literally tried to explode him? Like, yeah. I don't, that's not snitching to me. That's not the same thing. That's not ratting. It's just, I'm with Bernie Mac on stage.

But I could be wrong. I'm about to look into it. Well, maybe you're right. But Corey, also, I think, I think another element of that is like, you know, and I'm not saying this is wrong. I get it. Like, uh, murder just kind of hits for people, sort of. I love it.

I love it. Or as like rape and especially parents. is like, you know. It's not as sexy. Not even close. It's, you know, that's gross and upsetting. But murders like salacious and fun, which is truly insane. Right.

Well, no, no, no, no. I get it. Right here. I get it, though. Quick update. Like right here, nine minutes ago on CNN, the exhibits admitted into evidence during Jane's testimony will not be shown on the video feeds for the public. That is a preliminary decision, I think.

Okay. Well, for the record, I think I understand why. It's because there's literally... Oceans and lemonade, those are called, I believe, but it's been a while. Sorry. There's never an excuse for sexually assaulting or pedophile stuff, but murder, I kind of want to hear both sides. You know what I mean? Like, it's, it is, there have been justifiable murders.

There's never been justifiable rape. You know what I mean? Am I wrong? No, you're right. Well, well, no. I mean, I don't know. I don't, the justifiable, like, people are obsessed with, or somebody talk shit.

People are obsessed with serial killers, though, is what I'm trying to get at. Like, you're right, you're right. It's not at all. It ain't even remotely and justifiable. In fact, it seems like the sicker, the better for a lot of people. They just love that shit. I don't know. No, but it's not even just that.

It's like I've always. Women especially love that shit. No, you're right, but I'm just saying murder in general, like you can openly talk about murder and nobody gets upset, but if you were openly talking about a rape, somebody like, oh, Jesus Christ, man. For sure, but don't you think that's a little weird? Not really. Why?

Because, again, like, I know that it is the way it is. Every murder ain't been bad. Every rape has been. You know what I mean? Yeah, but still, but that, that context is not applied to the specifics of the, like the. For the record, most of the time I've been on with you, I've been like, what's the different? Like, we're talking about murder. That's even more gris.

But I'm starting to just think about it. It's like, there's. victims of rape still walking around that can hear that. There's no victims of murder walking around that can hear that because they'd be dead. You know what I mean? They do be dead. I guess that's true. Yeah, their family, sure.

Well, their families are also victims. Sure. I'm just saying, like, some people that have got got or got got, but that's not the case for like a, you know. Yeah, but, okay, a specific like one-to-one thing, though, like, if there's like a serial rapist, right, you wouldn't I don't know maybe you would hell no I guess you because I mean there's probably been I'm certain people have done podcasts true crime style stuff about like fucking oh what's his name Jim will Jim will fix it um Jim Seville yeah yeah and uh Sandusky has had documentaries and stuff so like you know

that's not really true I was but well people don't get I don't know they don't treat those the same those those like if there's a documentary true crime thing about that type of shit, it's, like, treated with, like, kid gloves or whatever. Yeah. But if there's, no pun intended, but if there's, like, like, but if there's a documentary about, like, a motherfucker that, like, chops off teenagers' wares and then fucks their corpse after eating it and all that shit.

Going full throat. Yeah. People are just like, ooh, here we go. It's like, well, like, it's like, that's fucking weird. All right. I hear you, but, like, okay, so, like, imagine, imagine it's date night, right? and you're like, hey, let's go to the murder mystery show. Oh, yeah, that sounds good.

But imagine if you're like, let's go to the rape mystery show. I know. We have to solve a rape. That sounds worse. I know, but that's, but I'm saying it's weird that it does sound worse. The attitude is not just applied to fun, fake murder mysteries. It's also applied to Jeffrey Dahmer, who was real. By the way, and that's what makes it weird.

Like that. Just so you, yeah. Just so you know this. Like, here's the, here's the point that could bring you guys together. truly. Maybe it's not fun to go to a murder mystery show. Maybe that's not fun. I watched a murder mystery. I don't know. They do it. If it is universally fun, we've got to ask ourselves why. And I think the cop here, I think the comp here, tray, that does exist is like rape kink stuff, like a lot of women. and I do think and it's and honestly I think the reason there's not a rape kink podcast it's because of shame it's not because there's not an audience for well also there wouldn't be a

rape mystery because she could just go that's that was him yeah I was going to say that you know what he's gonna be the black guy every time yeah unless he's in a mystery brother DNA has yeah that can be many many there's a man really happened or is this lying I'm just There's a man and a woman who tore the country together, and she picked him out of a lineup, and she was like, I was certain it was him, and they dive into how the cops made her believe that. So, like, she was a double victim of another guy who got DNA. They found out it was him. And then he was a victim, and then she was also a victim of the cops basically abusing her psychologically to get her to say it was this guy. I mean, it's, anyway, whatever.

Is that a different duo that tours from, well, isn't there also a duo that tours where it's like a guy who he did do it? He tours with the woman who he sexually assaulted and they have like a show about it. Okay. Yeah. What? Yeah, well, Drew's the one who told me that like years ago. So I don't, but how does that guy? I wonder what their closer is, you know.

They have musical numbers or what? Like, fucking just heartbreak kids, scissor kicks or through the wall. Jesus Christ. I'm assuming. I don't know. I'm assuming the angle is like try to, right. I'm sure it's very, very serious. He or not get paid, though.

He or not get paid. But it's like a reform Nazi type of thing. But for that, all the rage. I'm assuming. But that's still, that's wild. But they don't, but the reform Nazi don't like, you know, go on tour with the victims of the family of the dad. He curbstop for being a Jew, I don't think. Like, they just go on Rick.

Lake and they're like, oh, you know, in Japan, and I mean, look, it's Japan. Yeah, about to say, boy. But there was a serial killer in Japan who went to prison, got out, and then became like a, like a star, like a TV star. He wasn't like a, he wasn't like a sitcom actor or nothing, but he would like, I don't know if he hosted thing. He would just be, he would like go on their version of the Tonight Show and that type of shit, like frequently and was like a tabloid fixture. and he's got there and do panel and shit as a, you know, welcome, renowned serial murderer, like, literally. So here we go. Independent Harold, I don't know, here's a story about him.

A rape survivor has teamed up with her attacker to talk about the assault. Fortis, Elva, and Tom Stranger said they had been in a brief relationship as teenagers before he raped her one night in her home in 1996. Here's the reasoning, according to them. They said they were speaking out in the hope of reducing the shame associated with being a victim of rape and to promote a discussion about the motivations of the people, usually men, who carry out sexual assaults, in order to better understand and combat the problem. They did a TED talk. That's what it was. God damn.

Please welcome to the stage. My rapist, everybody. But your... Yeah, right. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. He does the Conan string hip thing. Oh, fuck.

That is, well, we're not, this episode is not getting monetized. And I'm sorry to everyone for everything we've done. Yeah. But there you go. Might as well get out of here on that, I guess. Might as well get out of here. Hey, go to Corey Ryanforster.com. Grab tickets to see me.

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