wellRED podcast - Popular Culture w/ Brent Weinbach!

Episode Date: June 26, 2025

Hilarious. Strange. Andy Kaufman Award winner. The very funny Brent Weinbach joins us today to talk all things comedy! Check out his latest special Popular Culture here: ‪@BrentWeinbach‬ To see Trae on the road go to TraeCrowder.com To see Drew on The Road got to DrewMorganComedy.com To see Corey on the road go to CoreyRyanForrester.com Go to Bilt.com/WellRED to start using your rent payment to earn points!

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which seems about right. Yeah, he's in the middle of nowhere, but. Wow. Here we are, everybody. We're back well-read. nation we're joined today by a singular comedic voice who's incredibly hilarious new special popular cultures on youtube right now brent weimbach brent thanks for being here buddy thanks thank you so much for having me and thanks for i don't know taking the time to i don't know watch it and stuff or

whatever man i turned it on last night the special and as soon as you spent your opening like six yeah it felt like six it's minutes or whatever in what i will call it a gold dodgers voice uh i was like this is for me i'm gonna love yeah and i buckled up be i just i'm a i'm a big fan of uh voices and accents and all that type of thing and and i'm not really any kind of absurdist at all in in my comedy but i'm always like marvel at guys who pull that off and you're great at it so it's very good man i really don't thank you thank you so I mean, I like your voices and stuff too. I just like silly kind of, you know, stuff, you know, stuff that, I don't know,

made me laugh when I was, you know, in junior high and stuff, you know. Where did you grow up at? I grew up in Los Angeles. Yeah, that's what I thought, yeah. And, but then I started comedy in the Bay Area, you know, San Francisco. Right. Like near Rooster T feathers and stuff, were you starting out there in that area? You were, yeah, rooster tea feathers was,

I would say kind of like a third home club for me in a way. Right on. I mean, there was a punchline of Cobbs and then Rooster T. Feathers was, you know, definitely one of my spots. And I know you were there recently. I was. And I just wanted to say quick shout out to everybody that came to the show. And also to the staff at Rooster T. Feathers,

we'd always heard that rooster T. Feathers was a great spot. And no one ever had any reason to lie to me. But now that I've actually experienced it, it was tremendous. and that would have been a fucking awesome place to come up at, like way better than what we had in the South. Yeah, those are three great clubs. I mean, I feel like all those have their own rep and their own rep for, you know, specific reason.

I mean, obviously, it's a bigger city, but it's not one of the, I don't know, in most people's minds like prime places. Yeah, well, and also, I guess this name Roussati Feather sounds kind of zany in a way that you would think maybe it's, yeah, it's like, I mean, that's fact, that's probably the zaniest title that they're ever. was for a comedy club, right?

Right. Actually, that place was a comedy club before Rooster T. Feathers, and it was called the Country Store. And that was a kind of a, I mean, that was an 80s kind of classic place, you know, Seinfeld and people used to perform there. And so it has a history. Oh, and also, apparently the first Pong machine was there at the country store. Really? Ever? So, hold on, it was named the Country Store.

It was named... And it was on the bleeding edge of technology in the early 80s. Yeah, yeah. It's not even just that. It's like it was named the country store and then they changed it to rooster tea feathers, which is also redneck. They're like, go harder. Yeah. Like, were the people that started this like from, you know, were they like transplants from the south or something?

I mean, I don't know who the people who started the country store were, but, you know, Heather took over the club. whenever she did. And then, you know, I think that's when it became Bruce to see feathers. But yeah, that first Pong machine was there because, you know, I guess, you know, yeah, Silicon Valley, that's where they made video games. Atari was there and all that, yeah. It's fucking crazy. Forget to turn off my stuff.

Did you, um, growing up, were you end the comedy always? And was it always like, you know, weirder stuff or zanier stuff or whatever? Like, um, yeah. Emil Phillips and... Well, I liked it. I like people who had props. I love... I mean, look, that's, I think, a big influence on me is 80s comedy.

You know what I mean? It's just, I love... I liked props, and I liked a lot of people... I liked people who did a lot of visual stuff, or visceral stuff, you know, that was just... Which is why I liked people when they did characters or voices and stuff. And, you know, like Charles Fleischer, I thought he was really... He was one of my favorites. Mark Curry and

and well, Dana Carby actually and Rowan Ackinson. Rowan Ackinson was one of my favorites. Dude, I was thinking about, I don't know if I brought it up on this show, but like how wild Rowan Atkinson is because like Mr. Bean, he got this character just over like Rover

and the motherfucker don't say shit. You know what I mean? Like how insane how insanely funny your face just has to be to be like, I have a character and he gets in silly situations, but he just kind of smirks at it. I think that that character was inspired by the Mr. Hulow character, if you're familiar with the Jacques Tatee stuff,

but he, you know, Jacques Tati made, he made this one movie that I really love called Playtime. It's one of my favorite movies. And it's a similar character who doesn't say anything, and he's not as, I guess, as big as Mr. Bean is, or as, as expressive, or whatever.

Or something, yeah. And, and, but yeah, Hulow, there's Mr. Hulow, or Mr. Hulow's holiday.

And, um, there's my, my uncle or Mononk. Um, but yeah, I think maybe that was kind of, Mr.

Bean was inspired by that, that guy, but Jacques Tati's character. Um, but, uh, yeah, I love visual kind of stuff.

Because, you know, taps into something that's, you know, non, I like that nonverbal response, you know, just there's something, you know, intangible. There's something kind of pure, pure about that, you know? Yeah, for sure.

And you're like a classically trained musician too, right? Like a jazz pianist and stuff like that. Like, you know. I mean, I have a background in jazz. I mean, I played a little bit of classical, but not as, I wouldn't say I'm classically trained, you know? I mean, I can't. I probably don't have quite the dexterity. of a classically trained pianist.

But I'm jazzically trained, though. I know, and really what that really means is I know some tricks to make it sound like I know how to play. But I don't really know. I'm not that good, though, really, you know. What about languages? Do you speak other languages? I mean, I took Spanish in high school for three years. And I took French in college for a couple semesters, you know.

Right. I know how to say some bad words in Tagalog. And I know, and that's pretty much it. And I, you know, I took karate class. Well, I took Korean martial arts when I was younger, so I know how to count a 10 in Korean. And I know how to, and also, it was in a Russian neighborhood, so I know how to do a, you know, I kind of know what, I know some words in Russian. Yeah. When you said, when you were going down the list of languages, you kind of know, you got to karate class.

I thought you were saying that like, you know, you know, the language of the hands in the Eastern. That's a sort of language. I know sign language as well. Because I took martial arts, I know ASL. Yeah, they go hand in hand. I'll tell you this. You just might as fuck off while you're karate chopping them. Yeah, exactly.

Yeah. Yeah. You know, my hillbilly ass thought until I was, I'm 39, I think I thought until I was maybe 34-ish that the Filipino language was pronounced tagalog, like almost like the, um, The cookies. The cookies tag alongs, the Girl Scout cookies. That's probably why I'm a fat kid,

too, and I always like tag alongs. I think when I saw the name of that language written down, I was just immediately my brain went tagalog. And I didn't find out it wasn't, that's not how you say it until. That's crazy. I thought that until I was 40. Yeah.

I mean, right now. Right now. I was about to say, I'm learning this in real time. But you literally, I found that out when I was 40 and I'm actually still, I'm 38.

So I just using to accept it. Yeah. I have a comedy question. Oh, yeah, go ahead, please. Well, I just have a comedy question, I guess, about development. What you do is sort of, I don't know how to frame it. I'm always nervous to frame what people do. Like, I might throw a word that's insulting, but it's certainly not mainstream in, you know, in many senses.

I'm going to say, it's not, I don't want to frame this the wrong way, but it's not good. Yeah, it's not very good. Well, it's great. But for most people, for most people, getting as great as you are, it takes a lot. a time it takes a lot of work what's the what's the failure look like when you're being that far out there it's like if i get up there year two and i'm like marriage is hard it's like okay i failed but i failed in the most typical way i'm learning the ropes i'm learning how joke structure works and then i'm going to find my voice and find something interesting to say is that what happened

with you and then you got into where you are or are you up there trying to be absurd but you don't have the chops shit. Well, you know what it was is I think, you know, I always liked absurd comedy, but I thought, I guess I thought when it came to stand-up comedy that I needed to be in the beginning, you know, this is actually even before I got on stage, I was just writing material, this is in high school. I thought I needed to sound maybe more like Seinfeld or something, or I thought, I thought I needed to be kind of more conversational or something, but then, But in college, I was, I listened to this, this radio show called, well, there's this guy named Joe Frank. He's this radio, radiomanologist.

And I don't know, he had this, I did a bunch of different shows he did in the 70s, 80s, and 90s and 2000s. And he had a really deliberate style in the way that he told stuff. stories and stuff. And he was very, it almost kind of sounded like some sort of noir narration or something. And that really kind of resonated with me. And I, that and along with just thinking about other comedians like, I don't know, Stephen Wright or, and maybe even Andy Kaufman, I thought that you don't necessarily, you don't need to be fake conversational. you can be more presentational and more deliberate in your act. And so, but particularly Joe Frank, when I heard that, I thought,

I think that's actually how I feel more, that feels more me in the way that I could do stand-up comedy. So really, that was a big click for me that made me feel like, okay, this is a way for me to approach this in a way that feels right to me. because out of forcing, for me at least, pretending to be conversational when I wasn't really having a conversation didn't feel that natural to me. Right.

And so once I kind of understood like what side of myself I wanted to project and how I wanted and what my voice was like, then I, that everything else kind of fell in the place a lot easier, you know? So really even doing my first open mic, I was really kind of trying to emulate Joe Frank and be just more,

presentational about things and that was just made everything else just be the way it was. So when it comes to development already kind of in my I mean I was at home figuring that out and that kind of fell in a place right at the beginning.

Of course it did I mean it'd be developed into something a little different but for the most part it was kind of the same you know. And then for the all the absurd stuff I think that I don't know just watching a lot of comedy

the stuff that I responded to the most and the stuff that I wanted to emulate the most was I realized it was all just more absurdist stuff stuff that just didn't really make sense in a cerebral way but made sense more in a nonverbal or kind of in a body kind of way

you know I just like to make sense in my body you know and just react in a way where I don't even know why this is funny but it just is. And so I just kind of sort of focusing on that, you know. I feel you. But I think part of what, and if this isn't what Drew meant when I'm curious about, because I think this sometimes when I see guys that are like,

who like really go for it. And there's different versions of really going for it. There's guys that are like super high energy that go into like an act out. And they're really giving it. They're all sweating up there and stuff. And then there's really going for it more the way you do, which is like in your special, you have that, I don't know. again, it's multiple minutes long where you repeatedly, like jokingly, karaoke Michael Jackson

songs and there's a funny twist on it that you're doing. But like, I feel like that takes an insane amount of balls to do that. And it's like a big thing. And it's like, yeah. And I always wonder like when you are trying something like something like that out and like it don't work or it isn't working. Yeah. How do you bail out on? Yeah. What is that like? Because I, anytime I've ever seen somebody who's really going for it in either way and it ain't working and they stick to it. It's like, I mean, respect.

I respect it, but it feels like bigger than a normal, like, regular hacky comic bomb like when I do it or whatever. I'll have bits where I've written it and I'll think to myself like, I'm just going to try that on the road because if I go do this particular bit is going to require so much

of me that doing it at a shitty open mic is just going to feel weird. Like, with nobody, You, they're like the vacuum of silence or whatever, but yeah, go ahead. Well, yeah, I mean, for that bit in particular, that is an easy bit to abort because, you know, it's, you're going song by song in it. Right. I'm going song by song in it. So, okay, if there's a couple songs in and nothing's happening, we can move on, you know, that's easy to move on.

But I do, I have definitely have some bits where if I get started with it, oh, shoot, I'm locked into this now. I can't really get out of this and just finish it out. Although, I don't know. I usually try to find some exit strategy if there is a way, you know, if there's a long bit that requires some kind of commitment. But also, I'm also kind of all for committing to something and just, you know, playing it all the way out and going down in flames because, you know, I mean, that's, I think one ought to be willing to do that, I think, to grow as a comedian is, as be willing to bomb.

I mean, I, and not, not, or not be afraid of looking stupid or just being, just being out there and just bombing and not, yeah, just, uh, not trying to look cool. I mean, I think looking cool, trying to look cool at least or trying to be, you know, is something that is going to, I think would hurt a comedian, I think. Um, obviously people look cool when they do comedy, but I think in the end, if you commit to something and you're confident about it, I think you'll look cool, even if you are bombing, I think. For a committee, yeah. People might not even know, as long as you don't call attention to it, people might not even know that they might think you're doing this intentionally. This is part of a thing. Yeah, I was going to say, you've sort of got a little bit of a fail safe in that what your

whole deal is weird and being, and I mean this is a compliment. And, you know, there's awkward pauses and it's meant to sort of confuse and be cerebral or whatever. So like, I could see where, you know, you're sort of bombing with a bit, but the crowd is like, the turn's about to come, you know, and you might could get them back or whatever. I wanted to ask you about, something like that, you know, and look, I don't even. Sorry. Yeah, no, yeah, I wasn't sure.

I, um, he probably doesn't know that he's frozen, so he's still talking. Right, right. Right. He's, uh, he's doing a bit right now. Yeah, he's, yeah, halfway through a thing he started. There's pauses in your act and. Yeah. Right.

Sort of like that, you know. Yeah. he's back now okay yeah yeah yeah could you hear you could hear us right i could hear you all the whole time which was really hitting for me yeah yeah um the uh the the i mean i don't i don't really intentionally want to confuse anyone i mean i just really want to make it as easy as possible and and and just i want people to just sort of react and not think too much just have fun you know just react you know just respond and laugh and just don't think i think actually when people think too hard that that can work against me.

But I just want people to... I shouldn't have used the word... I shouldn't use the word confusing. I guess what I mean is like, you're just... You're not completely set up punch the way that most people are used to hear in jokes. So they're, you know, they're waiting on something.

Yeah, that can be confusing, you know. And that... But I think that the trick that I kind of hoped to make people kind of, you know, embrace is just sort of... to not, don't worry about, don't even think about it. Just, just, just, you know, take it for the surface value. There's no deeper meaning to this.

It's actually as stupid as it appears, you know? But I think, but yeah, I think it's just a matter of, you know, going up and being willing to sort of just sacrifice a set. And, you know, if the crowd seems hot and thinking, okay, I want to try this thing and see how it goes. But I don't know. You know, I think confident. you know, just confidence.

Obviously, I think there's a responsibility to not be, try things out when, you know, if it's depending on the context, I mean, if you're being paid. Yeah, people pay. I mean, my goal is just to try to make people laugh as best I can. Well, also, you know, kind of being genuine too about it. Right. I was going to bring up, I read, I saw it on Wikipedia.

Is this true? You won an Andy Kaufman Award? Is that true? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was in 2000. seven for uh what like what specifically got you that um i basically i was able to uh it's it's actually a conga drum uh contest you know everyone gets their own little conga drum and whoever can basically do the best beat on the conga drum get wins the andy coffin award no i'm just kidding that's uh that's more

impressive but that would be yeah that seems like it could have happened yeah i guess that could have happened yeah uh no it's actually a wrestling contest and it's all women except for just one guy and then whoever wins. No, all right. So it's, they were doing it. They started in 2004 and it was, they, I guess it was just a way to recognize comedy that was in the spirit of Andy Kaufman. And I guess recognize, in my mind, comedy that played with expectation or, you know,

maybe was unconventional in some kind of way or maybe pushing some sort of boundary or something. And so, yeah, Susan Wong, I think, won it in 2004. That was the first one. And then it was Kristen Shaw the next year. And then Reggie Watts was the next year. And then I was the next year. And then they skipped a year. And then I'm not sure who won it after that.

But eventually Nick Vatterot got it. That's our buddy. Yeah. I love Nick. Man, you're in some esteemed category there, buddy. Oh, no. Yeah, Vatterot is awesome. And Reggie Watt and Shaw.

very Kaufmanie. Yeah, and they just, yeah, so basically it's the, it's the, it's the, Kauffman estate. And so some of his family members and, uh, his ex, uh, manager, George Shapiro. And, um, I think some other people, but that, yeah, there's a kind of a committee, I guess, that, uh, narrows it down to, uh, I don't know, something like 10 comedians a year. and then they'll perform at some sort of show, and then they'll kind of, you know, gauge it from that.

And I did the one, when we did it, when I did it, my year, that was part of the HBO festival that was in Las Vegas. Okay. But they normally would do it at the New York Comedy Festival. The reason, I mean, I saw it on there, and I was going to ask you about it anyway, but you just brought up a minute ago, you were saying, like, obviously, you know, you're different, you're your own thing comedically,

and you can be a little absurdist and silly or whatever, but you were like, but I don't want to confuse people, and if people pay, I don't, I want it. to be, I want him to have fun. I want him to laugh at it. And, you know, because like with Annie Kaufman, obviously, and everybody, you know, genius, obviously. And everyone knows that. But he also could was like openly antagonistic.

Yeah. To audiences a lot. That was like part of his whole thing was like, you know, pushing people, even people that paid to see him. And I just wonder. What a great thing to have. Yeah, what you think about that. Obviously, you don't do it.

That's something I don't relate. You know, that's something. I don't relate to about Kaufman is that I don't, you know, I don't want to push, I don't want to test the, I don't want to challenge the audience in any way or whatever. You know, I want it to, ideally, I want to just this to be as accessible to anybody as possible, you know. Right. I want to be as broad as possible, actually, but I think, but, you know, like I said earlier, I don't want to be fake about it, though, you know, I just sort of wanted to come from a real place, you know. Well, that's, yeah, I think it's a broad as possible. Oh, sorry.

No, you can go ahead. I think the phrase as broad as possible. I mean, I think almost every comedian in their heart of hearts is that. It's just that word possible. Inside that word is, for me, and not want to either blow my brains out or would prefer doing my law job or what, you know what I mean? Like, yeah, you want to be broad, but you just, you want the stuff that you're doing to be broad.

You don't want to have to change, you know, because I, and I think it's very frustrating sometimes because, like, I'll just tell my friends, like, you know, I find, comedians, we often find this out, you know, when we're trying a new thing is like a very disheartening thing to find out is things that I think are funny. It's just me that thinks that, you know, but you assume if you, if something makes you, if something makes you laugh, you're like, well, this is funny

and therefore people will like it. And it turns out it's like, no, that's just your bag. You know what I mean? That's not for everybody else. But, you know, part of the challenge or the puzzle solving for, for me is making inside jokes or stuff that I think is funny, somehow figuring out a bridge to make that a joke that everyone can think is funny or is making an outside joke, you know?

There was, there was this thing, my sister and I joke around a lot, and she's really funny. She's the funniest person I know. Mine too. Oh, yeah.

Me too, yeah. Really? You all have funny sisters. We all know your sister and she's hilarious. It's all my. Yeah. All your, yes.

Yes. Yes, we're all big fan of your sister. No, yes. We have, me and Corey also have hilarious sisters. Yeah, yeah. And. My brother kills. Oh, so you have a funny brother?

No. No. No. No. No. No. He just got out of prison. Yeah.

Yeah. I'm sorry. I did an inside joke. You could not do it, Drew. I don't blame me at all. You have to. Hey, I knew you were. That was for them.

Yeah. It's just so funny because, you know, yeah, I guess, either way, there's somebody's I mean, one of our siblings is killing. in one way or another, I guess. Yes. That's what matters. But the, we joke around a lot and sometimes we have certain jokes that we do that are just, you know, between us that are really, you know, they're really funny to us, but maybe they're not,

I don't know, I wonder how this would translate to an audience, but I do try. There was a bit that I had, it's on my previous special. It's called the Russian alphabet. And that was really just this thing that me and my sister were doing. And then I just did it on stage and it did really well. It was one of my strongest bits for a long time. And it wasn't even difficult to figure out how to make that something accessible to other people. I just trying to put it out there and said, this is the Russian alphabet and just went through it.

People didn't know the context that my sister and I knew when we came up with it. But somehow it worked anyway. And I don't know. I think there is ways to make something that's funny to you. funny to everybody else. You just have to figure it out, I think, you know. Yeah, I definitely don't disagree with that. At the same time, by the way, there's things I've tried to make that, that I thought were funny, and I try to make them accessible to other people, and it didn't really work. You know, I tried it a few times and thought, ah, this isn't really going to work, I guess,

yeah. I've got, I've got sort of, I guess, a two-parter here. I wanted to talk more about the Kaufman thing, but just I had a, wanted you to answer something, because I, before I did find out, because I read about you that you had won that award. But before that, I was just watching your special. And I thought to myself, this guy, not that you're like Andy Kaufman, but like in that genre. I was like, oh, man, he's really got that thing going. And then you did in your new special an impersonation to Elvis.

And now I'm like, was that a nod to Andy? Because when I saw that, I was like, oh, he's very aware of this shit. Like, he did that on purpose. It was a different type of thing, but it was still an Elvis impersonation. And I loved it. yeah thanks i i i i wasn't it wasn't a nod to coffman but um it that actually makes sense though you know um pretend it didn't even i didn't think about that but i guess that is kind of uh you know look the beginning of the you know like you mentioned earlier the beginning of the set is

the first five minutes or something or whatever is is a character which is kind of you know what that you don't set up at all yeah that's what i mean that's the best part you just start doing it Yeah, you know. When you hit the turn at the, because even I had heard your shit before. And when I started watching this because you didn't, there was no context for it, I was like, has he been doing a character the other times I've been? And this is how he really sound. You know what I mean?

It was fucking great. I loved it. But that's, you know, that takes a lot of confidence to go and just be like, I'm not giving any context for this. I'm just doing it. Then you didn't even give any context when you switch. That's what I was about saying. Then when you finally stopped it, when you went in your normal, you just, you just stopped

and went into your normal you didn't like acknowledge it at all you just i just i just i do voices and shit like that on stage too but i i can't imagine doing it like that not well i stick to like you know the british aisles and shit usually but uh but uh yeah actually by the way when i i i first heard the name well-read podcast i thought it maybe could have been a british podcast because uh you know it's like oh it's well read you know what i mean how they say well and it's well read it's well read it's well Listen to a podcast. Did you listen to a podcast? It was well read.

Well read. Oh, I get it. It was well read, mate. Proper reds, well read. The other thing I wanted to ask was you'd mentioned, I guess me and you have a similar story in the sense that you were writing jokes in high school. And I was too. Like, I knew I wanted to do it when I was, I think when I was five, I made the declaration like, I shall be a comedian. And then every decision I made up until then was like in effort of pursuing that.

Yeah, I mean, I also, I would do a robot. I was trying to do a robot joke too, actually. Yeah. You know, like do a robot impersonate. It's what sometimes wanted to the internet connection. It sounds like a robot style. You know what I mean? Yes, it does.

You're right. That was, you know, it's kind of. He's been talking this whole time. Oh, yeah. No, I didn't. No, I didn't. The great thing is, I stopped. I'm recording, Brent, since he recorded at his house, the audience will hear him.

So me and Trey will be laughing at your. and everyone else will be like, what the fuck is the truth? Because of the way Riverside works. Sorry, so I should just let it be. Okay, sorry, yeah. It's all right. No, I didn't keep talking, though. I noticed, but it was frozen.

What was the last thing you heard me say? That you, we were similar in that you started writing jokes in high school, and that was it. Yeah. So I always tell everybody that asks, it's like, I feel like when you first start doing stand-up, you're really doing an impression of whoever your favorite comedians are, even if you don't know. And for me, it was Seinfeld, too, but in like Mitch Heard. You know what I'm saying? But I was I was curious you mentioned Seinfeld and like was that because you actually really like Seinfeld or it's just because like Seinfeld is sort of the Jerry West logo of comedians and you thought well that's what that is.

You have to do that. Yeah, I think a little bit of both, you know, because it was, well, I liked Seinfeld and, you know, and I liked the show and but a lot of the comedy I watched in the 80s. You know, the way that people, you know, he's, yeah, he's kind of the, he's, he's the archetype kind of comedian. And, yeah, I kind of thought I needed to be like that, I guess. I just thought for some reason it didn't click with me yet that I could be more performative, like, or in a different way, you know. You didn't see Eddie Murphy and think, no, now that's who I am. well actually some of it definitely you know um you know anybody who was did act outs you know that's that appealed to me you know so eddie murphy i mean you know i mean i used to do impressions like i said mark curry was i i would do impressions of him um at school because um you know he had annual mr coogan was my shit yeah yeah he just his you know his

he did funny actouts and you know i guess he was a bit more absurd too i think i would say you know he was i feel like some of the comics from that era were being absurd and that word was not it was like we kind of comedy's still kind of genreless stand-up can be but like even more so then you know yeah well you know i think in general in the 80s people were just i think people were more silly and stuff and yeah they were probably on cocaine too but the There was a lot of silliness and stuff. And people, Harry Basil was somebody that did a lot of just fun prop stuff and costumes and stuff. And there was just a lot of, you know, in fact, maybe in the 90s things got a little less absurd.

You know, people got a little more real, you know, on stage. That's like the alternative thing with like runge and stuff. And I think getting music like kind of go hand in hand because it's like, of course comics were absurd in the 80s. Like, you know, they're fucking, they're going on right after. flock of seagulls with that weird ass hair and the cut off leather jackets and shit and then the 90s is like Cobain and Pearl Jam and it's all real

and shit. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I mean, that is true, but also there was so much that was silly about the 90s when you look back on it, in my opinion. You know what I mean? Think so many like 90 movies and like wrestling and like, and also Conan

it started in 93 and that, you know, I mean, that was kind of a big influence. I mean, that show was really absurd, you know, early Conan. Sure. Or just all of 90s, Conan was so absurd. But, uh, but, but no, I think that there was some maybe attitude of, oh, the 80s is corny because the people have these acts, you know, and then,

right. And then so there's this sort of, you know, abandonment of having an act and just sort of being real on stage or something, maybe in the 90s. And while I kind of like that 80s thing of, uh, I like kind of both, you know what I mean, being real, but also being real silly, too, you know, I don't know. It's kind of a mess. I don't think there's anything wrong with having an act, but I feel like a lot of those people in the 80s, and we've worked with some of them, they got their act, and then they were like, and I'm not not writing anymore. I have my hour, this is my act.

This is what I do. Yeah, that's absurd. Oh, that's, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's how they used to operate, apparently. People would say that guys would have the same hour for 10, 15 years or whatever, like back. then. I mean, there's probably some road dogs and stuff who are still out there doing that essentially, but that's pretty, that was always wild to me. I guess as long as you, yeah, I mean, I do kind of feel like as long as the audience is new. Yeah. It kind of makes the, the jokes new. But yeah, I mean, doing this. Do you not start to hate them? Like you as a commit, because I swear to God, and I'm not just like saying this in like a jerk offy way. If I get, if I got a bit that, I mean, we're talking, I feel like 18 months and Pat, like, at most, like definitely by 18 months, I'm going to start, oftentimes earlier than that, I'm going to start like, every time I do it, even if it's still working, kind of in my head,

I'm like, I hate myself for that. Like I start to. We go to the same cities a lot. That too. I go back to the same cities, pretty much yearly and stuff. And that's part of it. But like, I just get sick of, I can't stand to keep telling the same thing for like, I can put them away and then maybe come back to it a long time later and do them a little differently.

And that freshenes them up a little bit. But if they stay in the act for, you know, amount of time. I can't keep it up. Yeah, it can. That can be the case sort of for me. Although if somebody, if it is a fresh audience, it does renew the joke for me, you know, and it makes me be happy to tell it again because I just get self-conscious of people have seen it before. Yeah. That's one thing I, but, you know, I remember there was this bit I was doing and it was kind of, I don't know, I had been doing it for a while and I kind of, I don't know, maybe lost the excitement about it or something.

and then I was doing it this one show and this guy was laughing at it. It's so hardcore that I, it made me kind of remember what, why I thought it was funny in the first place or something. And that, it kind of re, renewed the excitement about the joke when this guy was just being really

responsive about it and stuff. And, um, yeah, I think, well, probably, you know, for you,

you probably have, you know, a big, I mean, you have a big following that's going to, you know, they're, they're, people are going to know your stuff.

So I think, it's going to be easier maybe to feel like you can't do it again. I don't know for me. I don't know. Nobody knows who I am. So it's, you know, I can,

I can just go anywhere and just feel like, oh, they don't know. They never heard this before. Wait till they hear this classic from 20 plus years ago. Right. Yeah. No,

I, but I, I do jokes that are pretty old sometimes. I don't, sometimes definitely if I feel like the audience doesn't know me and feels like, and it feels like it's a certain kind of room where it's, I know I can get this crowd going with this joke. I have no qualms about doing old stuff.

I'll do definitely, I'll do 25-year-old jokes, yeah. Well, hell yeah. Quick, uh, quick story on that. I was opening for Greg Fitzsimmons. Fitzsimmons is,

like when I was a teenager, I loved him. I mean, I still do, but he was like my favorite from that era from like those school, old school guys. It was like he was the smartest guy in the room full of bros,

which is kind of still the thing. Like, he's like the smartest Rogan sphere dude, you know, whatever. I mean, to me anyway. But I just, I love that about him.

He had this joke about seeing Ron Jeremy and putting gas in his car. Yeah, the gas joke. I know it. Yeah, he says, I knew it was him because at the end, he pulled it out and sprayed it all over the front of the car. Yeah, that's a classic. That's a classic. I mean, that joke, that's the joke that stuck out in my head in the 90s when I saw it on TV, you know. That's like how I knew who he was is from that joke.

Well, none of that. And the story about the principal writing him a letter when he ruined prom, they asked him to perform at prom. and he got a letter from Dr. Dave Thomas, not the Wendy's guy. Those are the two ones I remember. So I'm opening for him. And COVID, if I'm recalling, we were just out of that. And he's talking about getting his shot. And he says he got it.

He thinks he got it from Dr. Johnny Sins, the porn star. And he sure was him because when he pulled the needle out, he sprayed it all over his face. And when he got backstage, I was like, is it going to feel to him like I'm calling him out? or is he going to feel to him that I'm a huge fan and that he just made my fucking month. Like that he just, you know, like, I'm opening for a guy who was my hero and is my hero, and then that,

and I went ahead and told him, and it seemed to tickle him, which obviously tickled me. I love that. I have the same affliction, Trey mentioned of like, looking at myself and being like, what do you do?

And you sounded such like a robot up there. They can tell you don't like it. But I don't want, you made me really happy, like you made me full of like child wonder almost when you said, I heard a guy laughing and it reminded me of why it was funny. I love that. Like I hate how jaded we can become to our own stuff. I mean, our job really is to make them laugh. Yeah, totally. You're doing it as long as you didn't steal.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I mean, but you know, obviously sometimes jokes lose their magic. Definitely, I mean, that Russian alphabet thing I was talking about earlier, you know, that was my, that was my big joke at a certain point, you know? And I don't know, at a certain point, I don't know if it was me or something, but it just didn't start, it wasn't hitting the way it used to. And it just, I don't know, I lost the excitement about it. But that used to be the favorite for audiences and it was a favorite of mine too. But it just, yeah, I guess sometimes when you do things too much, it just maybe they need a break. or something like that.

I don't know. You just get in, maybe it just gets to wrote or something, you know. Yeah. Well, speaking of break, we're going to take a very quick one. Okay.

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You can do, you can make this as political or as not political as you want, but I wanted to ask you. You're from L.A. You're native Angelino. You went to college and started comedy and lived for years in the Bay Area in northern California. I just worry what your perspective is on like the, because I live in L.A. now and I've been here for eight years only, and I get annoyed at the perception,

the perception people seem to have of both of those cities, and they alternate. Like recently, obviously, with all the ice stuff and everything. Like, I've had people texting me from back home, like,

thinking I'm in danger or whatever, you know, like you, they think it's like fucking mad max out here or something. And then San Francisco has been getting that treatment for, and I've never lived in San Francisco, but I go there every year to do, do stand up.

and it's, you know, always lovely. But like, you know, they think it's just, the streets are filled with poop, poop and heroin needles and that type of thing. And it's like, and they think that all, California is a commie wasteland, right,

people back like where I'm from, think that and it's like, California's fucking incredible. Like, the whole state is just mind-blowingly beautiful. So I get annoyed at it and I'm not, you know, I'm a transplant.

I just wonder what you think, if anything, maybe you don't even give a shit about what people, people think. I never thought of it. But I wonder what you think. Well, you know, I've always lived, I live in places that I've always had perceptions of the place

that I came from in a way. So it's, you know, yeah, people have the, maybe people have a perception of California as a certain thing. But even within California, northern California and southern California, there's that same sort of thing, but usually the one, whoever the perception is about, that's usually, they don't care. But then the people who do care, the people who have the perception. So I guess what I mean is, okay, so starting out, moving from Southern California to Northern California, you know, for college and for comedy, people in the Bay Area really hate Los Angeles, you know, they have a perception

of it being fake or whatever and being, um, uh, whatever. a certain way. And, but people in Los Angeles think, oh, San Francisco is great, you know, or whatever. They think it's cool. They don't care. And then, but then, so then moving out further, people on, in other parts of the country or maybe the East Coast, they kind of hate the West Coast. They don't like California.

And they think it's lame. And California thinks, oh, East Coast, that's cool, you know, whatever, they don't care. And then I studied abroad in England and I live there for. year and they kind of don't i mean a lot of people have a perception of the whole country is a certain thing and meanwhile the country this country i think thinks oh yeah you know england's cool you know they got the whole well-red thing there and everything and um they're always talking about well-red yeah and um they that it's always there's always and then i and then i think it probably goes further than that, that people in the eastern part of the, the sort of eastern world has a

perception of the Western world, maybe. And it just keeps going. And then maybe I think people on Mars, creatures on Mars have a perception of Earth as being a certain thing, as being lame or whatever, you know, or not read enough, you know. Right. And then, you know, people on Mars are thinking, you want, you want well-read that go. Check us out, you know, this is what. This is what. Red. Our skin is red. They're going, this is well, red, mate. You know, they say mate there.

And I don't know. I mean, it probably goes further than that, too. There's gal, you know, there's probably galaxies. They're looking at the Milky Way thinking this same. Yeah, the Andromedons are like those fucking, you know, the Milky Way hicks. Those milk duds over there. Out there and the milk duds out in the hinterlands of the universe. I hate it when they say milk duds, you know, that's our word.

Yeah. they just um so i guess what am i what am i getting at here i guess i'm getting at is that uh you know whenever you go somewhere people have a perception and well they don't know what they're talking about yeah it is a lot of it is there's definitely an element of like you know i'm from a tiny town in tennessee and it's like it's definitely sort of that meme that people use some time for madmen where it's like they're obsessed with crazy as California and of course, you know, California is like, I don't think about you at all, you know. Right, right, right.

It's like that type of thing. Yeah, right. And I have gotten that only, only having lived in LA and not, I've always thought the whole NorCal, SoCal thing was fucking silly as hell from the moment I got here because, you know, it just, you know, as always, I think you're both pretty, you know, they're both cool. But also like I've gotten the opinion, I've gotten the impression like you said, it's always seemed to me like people in L.A. It seems pretty one-sided to me. Like, even when I go up there to do shows, they'll, like, jokingly, like, rag on L.A. or whatever.

And it's like, I really don't ever hear that down here about everybody down there's just kind of doing their own. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. Sometimes people just like to sort of, I don't know, hate on things that they aren't. Don't know. Different, bad, same good. Same good.

Something like that, yeah. But it's also not even. and here's the real secret. Things are all pretty much the same everywhere you go in a way. I mean, every city and every part of everything has the same types of people all there.

You know what I mean? Everyone's, you have the same mix of stuff. I mean, kind of. I mean, I don't know. I kind of find that people are all the same when you get down to it, you know? Yeah, I'm not trying to push us into like a political discussion.

But the San Francisco one is really funny to me as of late because it's like that's the current vanguard of the modern right wing in america is silicon valley and their money and their dark money is absolutely pushing all these strained like and again whatever we'd have to get into it but it's just funny it's like san francisco's full of all these communists i'm like well somebody better tell peter thiel that because i don't think he got the memo well to be fair all the uh far right moneyed overlords they all live in like blue cities and enjoy their you know spoils and the arts and culture and stuff there they're not fucking you know they don't live in

cookville and nothing like that you know they all moved to nashville lately or austin i guess yeah that's also true but uh yeah i mean uh people people are all there's a mix of everything everywhere people in los san francisco talk about los angeles being a certain way but there's definitely neighborhoods in san francisco where i feel like this could be i mean physically it maybe doesn't look like Los Angeles, but the people there are going to, you're going to get every type of personality, really. Mm-hmm. I mean, I mean, not that there's a set number of types of personalities.

There's just a, you know, there's, I mean, there's probably only maybe 10 personality types, right, or something? No, there's infinite person. But, yeah. Oh, seven personality types, yeah. And face shapes. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Face shapes. Yeah, yeah. What are the face shapes? I've always thought Sean Penn is from a template of a. of a person. I can't think of other, like famous people that had it, but I've known people.

There's people like, like friends I've had in my life and stuff that's like, I'm like, oh, you're of the Sean Penn archetype physically. I'm of the curly from the Stooges variety. And that's definitely a thing. I feel like William H. Macy is a thing. You know, he's a type.

I know, I literally know two dudes to look exactly like William H. Macy, which is insane because he seems very unique. But I think basically it's just like, Drunk? I'm not calling him a drunk, but he looks like a drunk. He does look like a drunk, and my two friends are drunk. Corey knows a lot of drunks.

Yeah, there's a everybody, there's only seven face and head shapes, but then depending on the color of the hair, the position of the eyebrows, it can look like a completely different person, but it's all the same template, you know? Yeah. Yeah, it is, it isn't weird how we all have the same stuff, and yet, just slight differences make us look so different. I mean, there's so much variation. Look, some people look like each other sometimes, but it's also weird how different people look. We having the same stuff, though, you know? Speaking of inside jokes and sisters being funny,

mine has, my sister, like, she has named the seven types of things you can be, but won't tell anybody what any of them means, but she can tell you what you are. Like hers are, people are either goonies, buttholes, butthole goonies, lunch ladies, lamb chops, and then there's another one. And everybody is one of those types. And she will, and she'll tell you.

And then there's another one. I can't remember the other one. Oh, you can't remember it. Okay. You know, everybody knows. Well, everybody knows. You just didn't. It's the title?

No, no, no. No, I can't remember it. But like, I think lunch lady, that's the easiest one to, to, you can figure, you know, like that one eat a Broderick bitch on Twitter that's all up Trump's ass. She's a lunch lady. You know what I mean? The leather face kind of. of dyed blonde hair, but I don't know what buttholes.

When she points one out, I can go, is that a butthole? And she's like, yes, you're getting it. You're slowly getting it. And then there's some of their hybrids, they're butthole goonies. And you can be a butthole lamb shop, but you can't be a butthole lunch lady. And so, is she describing a visual thing or is she describing a personality? It's a personality thing. Okay.

No, I'm asking to also. Oh, it's a visual thing. A visual thing. Okay. And what does she say you were? by the way. Yeah, what are you? I know that Pete Davidson, Pete Davidson's a, I'm a butthole gooney.

Gotcha. And Pete Davidson is a butthole, and I think it has something to do with the eyes. Okay. Because Pete Davidson's a butthole and also she said that James Franco was a butthole gooney. And I think you and James Franco are the same physical archetype. No, that can't be it. Mine's something about just my eye. Was I a lamb shop?

Was I a lamb shop? But that's the thing. That's the thing. You seem like a lamb shop to me. It's, I agree. I agree that I seem like a lamb chop, but I could also be like a male lunch lady, you know. Yeah, that's true.

Well, can, can, based on what you know of the system, can you tell us what we are or is that, I mean, do you want me to call her? I can call her. Yeah, I'll call her. She'll know me and Trey right off the top and you can send her a picture. Yeah, I guess you could say it. Is it a picture enough or does she to watch them?

Yeah, she might need to, I mean, depends on the picture, I guess, too. Oh, yeah. Can she, does she think? that pictures can change. Hey, can you hear me? You're on the podcast and I need you to tell everybody. First, I need you to explain what butthole, butthole gooney, lamb chop, all that, and the one I forgot is, and then I'm going to show you everybody and you tell me what they are. I just know when I see it. Told you. I like the Supreme Court with porn. Okay. Well, I'm going to show you the dudes on the podcast and you tell me. We'll start with

Trey. I bet say she knows what we look like. Yeah, go with Trey. Yeah, what's Trey? Yeah, what's Trey? I'll show them again. Hi. Hello, Kirby. You don't think he's anything? You can be nothing. He's the other one. Yeah, I'm just, just a blank template, yeah.

That was what the other one was, nothing. Nothing. That's what it was. Of course. Okay, what about Drew? Drew? Blood hole. Yeah.

We all saw a comment. She didn't hear y'all say that either about that. Okay, and now our buddy Brent, who you're about to meet for the first time. You have to be on the fucking microphone. I'm sorry. Look quick. Nothing? Yeah.

Okay. Me and Brenner the same. What am I? I forgot. I'm a but whole goony. Okay. What's James Franco? Yeah.

What's Pete Davidson? Right. Okay. I remember that one. Thank you, Kirby. Do you have anything to promote on the way out? Lunch lady? Did you have lunch lady?

Of course I added lunch lady. That's like Greg the Hammer Valentine. All right. I love you. Do you have anything to promote on the way out? She doesn't. I love you. I'll talk to you later.

I'll talk to you later. It'd be cool. she said, well, yeah, check out. Brian Whitebox special popular culture. Yeah, popular culture. It would be so great. It is, but personalities are like, like you were saying earlier, it's like, oh, we're, you know, so different, but such the same. I was at a show recently.

I say recently. Five, it was probably two or three years ago, but in L.A. That's pretty recent. Married couple of comedians were talking about their neighbor that, the, I can't remember if they had just moved away, but they had a neighbor, a married couple that they were living beside. And these neighbors were driving them crazy because they were talking about how nuts. wearing how they fly these big obnoxious American flags and they're super like maga me and all this stuff and like they're fucking everything's just real tacky in their house and they're loud and all that and i and i so i was like and they said their names were uh i think

it was the woman's name was candy and the dude's name was like jock or something like that and they had said all this they were just complaining about them and i was like i was like hey you listen i'm allowed to say this, I'm just curious. Are these people, would you describe them as being white trash? Is that what we're talking about here? Are these like, you know, trailer people, like white trash people? And they said, no, they're Chinese. So, you know, they were like Chinese rednecks essentially.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Next to them here in Los Angeles. And you will have that. You're allowed to be surprised by that and not feel racist. This is me telling myself that. Yeah. Well, because you just shocked me. Jock.

Yeah, no. Yeah, no. It's, you know, it shocked me too. That's the point of the story. And I know that plenty of Asian Americans have American names. It's just not usually job. It's also not, it's not, it isn't racist because they're, they're categorizing these people negatively. And my assumption was, oh, they're white like me.

You know what I mean? Like, I assume they were white. And then it's like, no, they're Chinese. It's like, I didn't assume that Chinese was bad. I assumed that white trash was bad. And then it ended up being that they are Chinese and also bad. And that can happen bad if you're, you know. Well, yeah, I mean, Jacques,

Jock definitely maybe is the wrench. I mean, because you just don't think, I guess Jock can just think. Probably wrong about that. It was something with a J but not John. So maybe just Jack, maybe Jack and Candy. Okay.

Yeah, Jacques just sounds. Not Jock either. J-O-C-K. Like a jock in high school. Like itch as in itch. J-C-H-E-H-E-H. Like J-O-C-C. My uncle Tim has a friend.

named J-O-C-K. And so maybe that's what I'm... Really? Oh, yeah. And that guy's... Wait a minute. Wow. Is that a nickname, Troy?

Hold on. It's a nickname. I don't, no, no, no. I think... He's gay. What? No, no, no. I'm not, motherfucker.

I think his real name is Jock, or at least that's all I've ever heard Uncle Tim Cullin. Of course, it could be a nickname where I'm from, and that wouldn't change anything. He's, he's... But I think that maybe his wife is named Candy, and that's why I said that. Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha. Never. The one of the Chinese.

The Chinese rednecks, the woman's name was definitely candy. Okay. I don't remember what the man's name was at all, but it also sounded like kind of redneck-e, or at least it could have been, but I don't remember what it was. Jock, yeah, I used to know there was a kid named Joffrey, Joffrey in my elementary school. And I think we thought of them as named Joffrey Jock's trap. And maybe, so maybe Jock's real name is Joffrey, but it's just some sort of nickname or something. So he was called Joffrey, year.

before Game of Thrones, huh? And then he was like a fully grown man by the time that show came out. He came out before Game of Thrones came out, yeah, big time, yeah. There's this black dude. I follow on Instagram and he did a post the other day about how George R. Martin just named everybody in that show black names

and it was fucking killing me. And he started talking about like, dude, if you met like Joffrey Smith at your fucking high school, you'd assume that's a black guy. And it's so fucking true about all the names, basically. Again, this is a black guy saying it. I'm not racist. Yeah, Calisi.

Yeah, we get it. Me and Trey are obsessed with, I mean, maybe Corey, too, but Trey and I've talked about it so many times. I have a joke about it. Just the concept of nominative determinism. Are you familiar with this, Brent? I mean, like, when I introduced it to audiences. Break it down?

So when I introduce it to audiences, I say the most simple way for me to explain this to you is, imagine a woman named Olga. Now, you all got the same visual in your mind. The fact that if you met someone named Olga, you might treat them differently because their name's Olga might affect how they act so that all Olga sort of end up acting the same. Right, right, right. And the comedy people do it like in a hackway like Kyle, they'll just choose the name as a punchline.

Right, right, right. I mean, yeah, Olga, with the thing with Olga specifically, that brings up two different images to me, you know? Okay, let's hear them. Well, I think of. One's got a wooden spoon, I assume. Yeah, one of them's got a wooden spoon. Yeah. It's a big one, too.

And she's kind of stirring a big pot, right? That's what I say on stage. So there's kind of like one Olga that's sort of a babushka type, right? Mm-hmm. But then the other Olga is just like a beautiful, a beautiful, you know, Russian model or something. Well, I just think of some sort of, I think of a Bond girl, you know, or something. On the Hay Arnold, Helga's older hot sister is Olga. Yeah.

I was thinking of the St. Polly beer girl type thing. Yeah. Yeah. I guess I was thinking, isn't there someone named Olga Curlianco? Yes, and she's a supermodel actress. Yeah. Yeah. So the concept isn't you hear a name and you think that thing and that's the whole

concept. The concept is because you do that, like do you treat a woman named Candy a certain way? And then does that make her act a certain way? Do kids name Jack get treated differently when they're eight? And then therefore they become Jack. They become the cool guy or whatever. Right. Yeah.

No, I think that's kind of, no, I think that's. That's kind of, that's a real thing, right? I think a little bit of it. All sound like baseball players, too. I swear to God. I can't remember the last time it was wrong. Maybe Justin Herbert, like, but like, typically with his hair.

He, his is like borderline, I feel like, but like with quarterbacks especially, it's like, I swear to God you can tell by their names most of the time whether they're going to work out or not. Carson Palmer. Like,

what is fucking quarterback. The only one who really kind of didn't that should have his Colt McCoy, which is the greatest quarterback name of all time. and he still was in the league for like 15 years real hard. And he played for 15 years in the league. And he was, he. Still count.

He played to leave was almost 40 and was like winning games for the Cardinals like two years ago. So, you know, he still did pretty well. But, but yeah, it's one of those things it's like I almost kind of half jokingly believe it. But I really kind of do believe it. The nominative determinism. Well, I bet. We probably haven't seen the effects yet. But with that whole thing Drew's talking about, I bet you in a couple years, there's going to be some chicken or egg.

with the name Karen. You know what I mean? 100%. I mean, there's genuine science behind the notion that what you tell kids they believe and then what they believe they are they become. So you have to be careful. Like, I have a two-year-old right now.

So my wife just sends me videos all the time from Instagram, Brent. But like, you have to be careful, like, it's important to say you're so brave, but you have to like, when you're frustrated when they're four,

you have to be like, you're always so whiny. You're always so needy, like whatever, because they'll believe you. And then now they think that about themselves. So they become. So it's a little bit of a stretch, but it's not a huge stretch to go, well, teachers treat kids

named Winston like they're smart and responsible. So kids name Winston become smart and responsible. My mom called me. Mommy's little gay boy. Here we are. Well, we have to think of some, what are the best names you can name somebody then to make them the best person they could be? I guess who Roscoe.

If your name is Roscoe, you will be the best person there is. I feel like Clark's a good name. It depends on what you want. I mean, again, like, if you're going for like a quarterback name or something. Right, right, right. Versus, like, you know, a lacrosse, a future senator type name. And then it's like fucking Langston-Maryweather or some shit like that, which I would never do. I'm just saying.

I feel like in the 80s or something. Yeah, Preston. I feel like in the 80s, maybe if your name was Zach, you're more prone to being kind of, you know, silly or something. or, you know, kind of like a Joker or something like that, if your name was Zach. Yeah, Zach Morris. Yeah, I picture Zach in that era as being, well, I literally just Zach Morris. It's literally just Slater's a badass name. The archetype.

Yeah, Slater was super Slatery. No doubt about it. There was Zach the Lego Maniac. Remember him? Zach the Lego Maniac? Yeah, there was that commercial. It was Zach, he's a Lego maniac. I'm Zach or I'm Zach, something like that.

It was Zach the Lego Maniac. I can't believe I don't remember that because I would have thought that was super fucking cool back in that time because I, too, was a Lego maniac. Bit of a Lego maniac myself. Damn, you should have been named Zach. Yeah, the Zaks I know cast a wide net. There's a, they're a varied group. One is like in undescribably amazing person. Like he's unbelievable.

You think he's one of those people that's so awesome and good that you're like, he must be a serial killer. And then the other one. No, no, he drinks too. He like, but like responsibly, you know what I mean? Like he has a couple and then he quits. And then the other Zach I know is like, without question, the biggest dip shit I've ever seen sucks would, you know, steal a baby's car, you know, whatever. If a baby had a car, he'd be like, fuck you. I bet if somebody did actual in-depth research, my money would be on the biggest finding where the groupings are similar is names that are less traditional.

So it would be, it would just be like, oh, man, all the candies are kind of horish. Like they have a phase in college, you know what I mean? Like, what's crazy by candy, by the way, is that candy sounds a certain way, but Candace, which is what it comes from is sounds fine, completely different, you know? Right. And I would argue that if you have parents who name you Candace and call you Candice, there's less chances of you end up being a certain way than if they called you candy. How about this?

The nine-year-old. Same exact name. If it's a girl, right? Nikki, if you use a Y, she's probably fine. Yep. You spell it with an eye or N-I-K, one or especially two-Ks. And an eye at the end, look out, bro. There's no one listening right now from a statement below the Mason-Dixon line that has a counter-argument to you.

Most of them have a scar on their arm. They're looking at it going, yeah, I remember her. If you got a Nikki and she spells it with 2K, she's, going to add a third K eventually in my experience. You know what I mean? Like they're they're a, they're a breed. All right. Well, listen, Brent, I think we've, we've, we've held you long enough. No, no, no, not all. I was just going to say it also brings to mind the what you name your kids and like what, what, what names mean, like why you name your kids a certain way because you kind of think you have an association or kind of want to treat that name a certain way too. You know, that's just a whole other

thing. Anyway, I don't want to that. No, if it's true, that's got to be why, right? Like, that's a huge part of it. Like, I named my son Jack because I imagine he's going to be a football playing senator or whatever. So I treat him a certain way. Yeah. All right. Brent, remind everybody where they can find you and check out the special and all that stuff. So, you know, you can check out my special popular culture on YouTube. And if you're watching this show right now, just after you're done watching it, go watch it next maybe.

Or you could save it for later or whatever, but do it now. I might as well get it over with, you know. Super funny. And to make it easy for you, I'll put the link in our description of this episode. Great. So popular culture is what it's called and saw my YouTube channel, which is YouTube.com slash Brent Weinbach. That's it, Brent Weinbach.

And my Instagram account is Brent Weimock comedy. And there's some clips on there. And yeah, I mean, you can see my old special ad free on Vimeo, which is called Unpopular Culture. Yeah, it was the prequel to Popular Culture. culture. It's called Peeling to the Mainstream. Appealing to the mainstream. I know it's kind of almost the same title.

But yeah, I mean, that's pretty much it, you know. You know, doing a show in Tulsa, Oklahoma on August 15th, I think it is at part of the Blue Whale Comedy Festival. Nice. Well, y'all go see him and Brent. I appreciate you being here. and I'm so sorry that I froze up several times. I had many things I wanted to ask you,

but it's probably good for everybody that I didn't. Let's do our plugs real quick, too. And then you can go to Corey Ryanforster.com to get tickets to see me. Tomorrow night, I'm going to be in Fort Worth, Texas, at Big Laugh Comedy Club, and then on to Lexington, Kentucky, and Charlottesville, Virginia. Corey Ryanforster.com for tickets, Trey. Yeah, Trey Crowder.com to check out my upcoming days.

This Saturday, I'll be the Uptown Theater in Napa, California, California, wine country. So get tickets for that place. Come to see me. And then after that, Largo in Los Angeles, July 9th. And then I, too, will be in Tulsa at the Looney Band, July 11th and 12th. Then the La Jolla Comedy Store after that. And then on from there many, many dates in the near future.

Go to Trey Crowder.com and check them out. And if you haven't watched it yet, watch Trash Daddy, there's a link to it on, on Traycrowder. com as well. That'll do it for me. Drew, what do you got? Yeah, I got a show coming up in Knoxville, Tennessee. The first time I've headlined there in almost two years, hoping for a big turnout. That's in July.

I want to say the 25th and the 26th. That's it. That's all I got going on. You guys know I'm staying at home with a kid. Listen to Gravy, baby. And I can wait to see y'all out there. All right. Show, sing us out.

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