wellRED podcast - The Boys Talk Cracker Barrel (And Stand Up Comedy Greats!)

Episode Date: August 27, 2025

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They're the liberal rednecks that makes some people upset. they got three big old dicks that you can sun. Well, here we are. Here we are indeed here on Well Red. Drew is no longer with us. I believe he's finally succumbed, giving up the ghost. Drew dead. Yep, rest of his Drew.

Yeah, he'll be back from the dead, hopefully next week. Is this just the second week that he's, I know that all three of us, I feel like haven't been on here together on this show in like a month or something, but it's, we ran a rerun three weeks ago and then for the past two weeks it's just been me and you so yeah it has been a little drudeless just by coincidence but drew uh he'd be have the flu y'all remember the flu that's still a thing obviously drew's real old and decrepit nowadays so it's pretty serious for him he could end up in the hospital up here but uh um but yeah no he got he got the actual flu so that's why he ain't here today so you know i was about to say with as old and run down and as much of a sick old just decrepit dog that he is, you know, like one of those dog with like milk eyes and two teeth

that their teeth show over their gum, you know, loom dogs are like, and they're fidgeting and they've only got whiskers on the one side of their face. As much as Drew is that, he actually rarely is too sick to do the show, so I got to give it up to him. Like either the boy is just tough or I don't know

because like his heart's wrong. His organs can't be right because of the way his butt smell. There's no way his organs are good, right? Something in there is dying. Yeah, I don't know. It's weird because, you know, let's just get right into farts, I guess. If all of this, if Kim Coussito's listening to this, she'll have something to chime in on in a later because she's a fart doctor, obviously. But stuff that's like, like, hippie type shit and also like protein powders and stuff like that, they'd be making oftentimes your farts be worse, right? Don't you agree? Agreed. Yes. I've said,

this before. People go, oh, you must have to eat something bad. Your farts smell bad. And I'm like, no, actually, when I eat healthier, they're bad. Right. But, but there's a different type of bad. Like, there's a, there is, like, you know that like instinctually, I think I've talked about this before, but instinctually, we look to our own farts to tell us things about

ourselves. Like, it's a, it's an instinct we have. That's why we, I always know, like, oh, shit, I'm about to get sick because I'll smell and it's a sick fart. And there's a difference, but sick fart. but a sick fart is stinky and a protein fart is stinky, but I know the difference between that's a healthy stink and that's a bad stink. And I sell all that to say this, dude, Drew's ass smells like you pulled the hood off a car that's been in a barn for as long as anybody can remember.

And a possum had crawled up in there and died a week and a half before. And that's not protein. He do got dead possum, but that's for sure. it is very I mean that's a very apt description for those of y'all that have never had the pleasure of smelling durys but that's pretty pretty close I'm looking at your hat there I just saw one of the top posts on Reddit yesterday was about those little that little cord the road in the front of your yeah yeah people are like you know what is this some kids I guess or whatever just found out about them because then there was a big argument in the comments about whether or not they're coming back they're trendy again or whatever they're definitely they've been coming back do you because yeah I know you're a you're a hat man you're a connoissella so right so do you know what those are like what those are or what they're for those rose no i don't i'll tell you this i'll give you a little explanation and i assume you're going to tell me um i've never thought to look it up ever but i know that like now they're put on everything but traditionally they've only like i i remember when i was a

kid, Jasper Parnovic and Fred couples and a bunch of these older golfers. They're old now, but at the time they were the one, like all their hats had a rope on them. And so I always associated it with golf. But then also my papal had a bunch of them and I saw some like Army Navy type hats that had them.

And I was like, well, maybe it's a sailor thing because my papal was a sailor. I'm the son of a son of a sailor, rest in peace, Jimmy Buffett. But it's for, and so now I assume it's purely an aesthetic thing.

but I have to think that at some point there was a reason other than aesthetics that they would have done this. Was it for sweat? Man, again, I know you are a hat, a hat wearing son of a bitch. I know that you'd be knowing your hats, but still,

it only is going to have that impact on me because I was the one who read this Reddit thread, but what you just did was wild because you essentially just chat GPT to the entire conversation in the comment section of that Reddit thread, about, and I mean all of it. Like you literally, you literally covered every single aspect of it of like the discussion.

Because people, the whole post was a picture of a hat. If y'all are only listening, you know, like, think of an old school hat or like a trucker hat's got a little cord, a little rope on it. In front of like right there where the bill meets the hat, the dome. The front part. The front part of the hat part. The bill meets the face. Yeah. above a little rope up there.

Somebody posted on Reddit it was like, what the hell is this? And again, and in the comments, all these different people saying all these different things and you pretty much just covered

every single one of them. That's amazing. Is this a hack subreddit? Because I'm not on any of those. That's crazy that I'm not. No, there's a pretty popular subreddit called it's R slash what is it?

Where it's like, you just take a picture of it then. You're like, what is this thing? So this guy posted it on there. But anyway, you know, there are people to be like,

I think it's like it's a golf thing. It's like golf. People put like scorecards or like teas or stuff in the in the little rope or whatever. So it really was just a golf hat and then it spread around. And then there were some other people being like, was not just golf because like I, you know, I'm a fisherman and I'll keep flies in my little rope or whatever up there.

So it's like it's useful for that type of thing. And then there were. And then other people were like, okay, so that's all kind of answer. That just happened that way. sort of, uh, coincidental. What it actually is is it's vestigial, vestigial, you know, like our, uh, you know, our, our, our butt bones be vestig. Well, I don't know about the whole butt bomb. You know, we got little, you can't see our tails, but we still have like tiny little

almost tails hidden inside our butts, you know, because I've heard that from when we was monkeys and stuff. So we don't mean, some people, some people still protrudes a little bit, such as howl, shallow howls. Right. So that's, uh, that's a, that's called vestigial,

you know, stuff that's like left over. Used to be used to be useful is no longer useful, but it's still kind of around. We were like it's vestigial. What it originates from was like the evolution of hats, what hats used to be that would have been like a, a chin strap.

Like they show, they're said in the Navy and in the military hats, they give an example. They like, if you look at them and they, there's a like a strap in the same spot on some of these old Navy hats, but you could pull it down and put it under your chin. And they were like, that, that, that's for the wind.

How it, yeah, it's how it, you know, came to be a thing. But ultimately, everybody's like, but all that aside, now it's 100% just purely, uh, aesthetics, decorative. Just, you know, it just people think that it hits harder or it's nice, you know, nice little element to add to a hat to sort of set it off. So it's just a thing people do for looks now. So, yeah, you. Yeah, my only problem with this one actually is that it's roughly the same color as the hat. I think it should be more gold to sort of bifurcate it a little bit, create a little, you know, a break in the pattern.

But I do think that it gives it just a little extra, you know. Genesecois. Genesecois. But oddly enough, I have a Tennessee Titans golf hat that I really love. And I was thinking, oh, I could put my T's there, but it already has two slots on the side for which to put T's. So I don't. But yeah, I've never thought about using it for anything. other than it's just a thing that it hits.

Were you going to talk about that anyways? And I just happen to have this hat on. No, honestly, no. It's weird how often that happens, but I had, but I had,

no, I'd forgotten about that post and then I saw your hat and it reminded me of it. But no, what I was going to bring up because, like, hey, you know,

we pre-record skews now. It hasn't come out yet. By the time people hear this, skews will have already come out. But obviously, we spent more than 30 minutes talking about it. I've already put out a stand-up clip and I'm going to put out another video about it.

I've done a lot of talking about it. done a lot of talking about it. But the whole, you know, the great Cracker Barrel fiasco of 2025. The main thing I wanted to at least start with you about was, because I feel like it's, you know, kind of getting lost in the shuffle by a lot of people, but also I'm not sure where you land on this. And it has the potential to, you know, incite disagreement, which might hit for people. But where are you at on just there, like the food, the actual menu offerings at a Cracker Barrel?

I've said this. Where do you rate them? How hard do they hit for you? Insanely hard. And I've, but I've said this since the jump, but only really, but I'm judging them based on basically one meal.

So I don't really know overall how everything is because I've pretty much gotten the same thing every time. So I'll admit that like, unless you say no, Corey, the thing that you get sucks, then I'll be like I can't like I get pancakes. And they are.

And it's ain't just me saying this. There's a lot of people saying this, including a friend of the show, Roy Wood Jr., because we've had long conversations about it. They have the best pancakes in the world because they are both fluffy on the inside but crispy on the outside. It's unbelievable. It's unbelievable. And also, they do what a lot of restaurants don't do.

A lot of restaurants just throw you like cold butter. No, there's is already softened up. Ready to go. Not melted, but softened up. So you don't have to sit there and destroy your pancake with your knife and, you know, ruffle it up. The syrup is their own syrup. And it comes warm.

And I like that. I've always thought that I was more of a colder, a room temp syrup type person because that's how we had it at my house. But Crackerboro told me onto the warm syrup. And also they give you enough to where you can take a bottle home. And they're not stingy with it. They don't charge you anymore for the syrup. They're like, well, you need it. It's great.

It comes in a little glass bottle. You can use them. You can refill them with whiskey. Use them as little airplane shots. Fantastic. Love the pancake. So this whole thing that's been going on, I just, all I've said is, listen, as long as I don't fuck with the pancake recipe, I don't care.

I can care less. Yes, I'll admit that since I've been going to Cracker Barrel since I was a kid, with my grandmother, with my dad, now with my son. The aesthetic does a lot for me. I like that because it's been the same my whole life. And we have me and my dad go there every Christmas Eve. That's our tradition. We go there and then we get all our shopping done.

It's going to be a bummer that it looks more corporate inside. And by the way, that's all this is. It's nothing to do with it. It's all fucking corporate. Right. But as long as they don't change. pancakes. That's my been,

yeah, okay. Yeah, well, I just wanted to, because I feel like a lot of people aren't even talking

about the food, and I know you'd have strong opinions. But yeah, as far as the scandal itself, that's my, my take or angle on the whole thing, too.

I agree completely. It's like, it, like, it don't hit. Like, I don't, I think it's a,

it clearly is a mistake, but it's a mistake for, but it's not a liberal thing. It's yet another example of like, just the inshittification of everything. bland corporate minimalism Which is extremely conservative Republican, by the way.

Right. Yeah, it's fucking late stage capital. Capitalist dystopia type shit or whatever, which that's their other religions. Capitalism, some would say the primary religion is capitalism. But it's that. It sucks in that way. Like there's not, I've been part of the video

I'm about to make when I get done with you or I'm planning on making is about how like, I don't even really get how, like, it's hard for me to even wrap my head around how it's even supposed to be woke. Do you know what I'm saying? And change bad. And changes. That's actually,

it's actually a hundred percent. It's just changed, right? Pretty much what I end up saying, well, it's like it's changed. I feel like it's anything new or different that they do not like, right? Because if you,

you can change something. Obviously, you know, callow fries now. That hits for them. That hits for them. Right. It hits for me too,

for the record. Anything. Right. but anything new or different that they don't like, but it doesn't matter what the reason is they don't like it. If they don't like it and it's new, that means it must be woke, even if that doesn't make any fucking sense at all.

It's literally just that, but also it's like, was it just that they, the removal of a papal make something inherently woke? You know what I mean? Like you take a papal's make things less woke, I guess. I do think that subtracting the parol. Right.

In their brain. Yeah. I think people would have gone crazy anyways because change equals bad. But I do believe that a large number of them are so tinfoiled that they are only seeing it as they're taking a white papaw, which actually he's yellow. So possibly a Chinese papal. Yeah. That's what Mark said. Did he really nice?

Yeah. He does that he said, uh, yeah. Well, uh, well, I mean, like it's not, you couldn't have listened to this one. It's not out yet. Oh, right. So there's no way for you to have known that. I just need everybody to know. I'm not copying you.

No. But, yeah, but I just don't, but this is what I keep trying to like trying to get across. And I, the stand-up, what I talked about on stage this weekend, part of what I said, but it is just that like

the idea that these people genuinely believe, okay, whatever, change that don't hit is woke, the absence of a pap all, those things are woke, ergo, this is woke. even considering all that, the idea that these people believe that cracker barrel of all, like, places in 2025, post the last election in this cultural climate that we're in.

If you made it through Obama, you don't have to do it now. That crack. Yeah, exactly. It's the opposite now. I know. Like corporations. I said it right. Yeah.

I might need to throw in a reference to them doing that. Because in the video, I was just something about like, you know, performative wokeness is over. Performative patriotism is what's up now. You know, it's the exact opposite. So it's like... Well, you could do nothing. That's also an option.

You seem like the hit in this thing to do right now is probably just nothing. But if you're... But just the idea that fucking, again, in that, in the midst of that climate, as Cracker Barrel with the demographic they have, the idea that they were like, and I said this on stage, but then their board of directors are sitting there, it's like, listen, if we don't succumb to the pressure of the woke mob, it's so stupid.

Then we're never going to survive. It's like, it just blows my mind. Like, nothing about it makes any sense. And it's like, I don't know why I'm getting so spun up over them not making sense. You know what I mean? I know. It's this one, nothing makes fucking sense anymore.

But it's like, because this is South Park parody levels of doing things. Right. Even for them, this is, yeah, right. Because I'll make. I'll make this further claim. Okay, it is specifically because that is their demographic, this is even talked about or going so insane because,

hold on, I have a fucking alarm going off. I'll do it later. Cracker barrels changing not only their logo, but they're changing their store, right? It's going to be all square, just like a lot of other places are doing. All of them.

Talk about, did it, no one cared. McDonald's did it. No one cared. Pizza Hut. No one cared. No one cared. Okay.

Okay. So, let me fucking. fucking explained to you. And this is, you can get this. You don't even have to be smart. You just had to have watched a movie called the founder about Ray Kroc, the McDonald's, the man who created McDonald's, right? One thing you should know, it's awesome movie. It's surprisingly, I wouldn't consider it like a rewatchable movie like Shawshank and the Departed, yet for some reason I've watched it a ton. I just love Keaton. I just love him so much. The one thing

that Ray Kroc, and a lot of people took this, their business plan for restaurants and franchisees or whatever is that the the restaurant is ancillary you're in the real estate business right you're in the real estate business so if you're able to get one of these places zoned commercial right you own the land because if not you're leasing from somebody and they're making the real money even when your shit goes out so you buy the land then put your restaurant up there and then if the restaurant don't work guess what you can still sell the fucking land that's on the side of the goddamn highway right fast forward they're all doing that right But then they have, I guess, I don't know if it was just now had this realization,

or if it's over the years fucking with a bunch of idiots, not idiots, but people that only think in ones and zeros in a boardroom. Like, if your restaurant looks like a pizza hut or it looks like a McDonald's, like you're going to have to tear down the whole fucking plate. But if it's rare, you can put a hair salon in there tomorrow. You know, and like that has to be what's going on. That's all it is. So again, I say to you, this is not woke.

This is fucking exactly what you voted for. This is, they don't give a shit about you unless you are a shareholder. Are you a shareholder? No, you just eat the fucking pancakes. If you're a shareholder, they care about you. And the shareholders care about the fact that they can still liquidate some of that money in case foot traffic slows the fuck down because a generation of people who are going to Cracker Barrel are fucking dying and they're never coming back. That's what's happening.

They are preparing for the. ultimate end. But if you just let them pancakes sing, baby, you'd never have to. Yeah, Mark tried to go into this whole thing. I mean, with Mark being Mark, he also, he had numbers and shit, but about how, you know, they had been falling off a little bit like numbers wise recently, Cracker Barrel had. But like, he acknowledged that whole sector has been, you know. Everybody has, right.

Pretty much everybody, especially like fast, casual dining, like, chains, you know what I mean? Like people either, you know, don't have the money to do it or if they do have the money to do it, they try to go to like a place that actually hits, you know, as opposed to a like that type of stuff. Because they're the same price now. Right. And so that, yes. And so their numbers have been like flagging. And he was talking about that in the context of this. But then at one point, he took that and took it's like, you know, they were failing anyway. So they were desperate or whatever. And he was like, they don't realize, you know, that their demographic is nobody anymore or whatever. And I was like, well, buddy, hold on. I was like, look. I was

like I was like dude I'll tell you this if me and kate and the boys are back in Tennessee and we're all like in fucking you know somewhere outside of we're in Spring Hill at the you know going like Christmas shopping or something like that or whatever everybody's all together like it don't even get no question is even asked like it's cracker barrel right like it's going to be the same and good every time but it's also but just like that whatever demographic like my inlaws are like yeah cracker barrel is they shit they fuck with it you know like it's definitely a cultural thing i was like it doesn't have the same sort of like cult of personality cultural cachet that like fucking waffle house does or whatever

but like but it has a version of that i think with like you know country ass people or whatever like people i went to high school with the waffle house to cracker barrel pipeline is is true though like i i think i fuck with cracker barrel now in the the same as i used to fuck with waffle house because i'm not drinking now. Cracker Barrow is just Waffle House for people, for it not being 2 a.m. You know what I mean? Like, I still crave. I want cake, right? What I want for dinner is cake, but I can't do that because people look at me weird, but what I can do is have pancakes. You know what I mean? Yeah. So anyway, because I asked you the question, didn't answer. I, um, we've probably talked about it before, but I, like having said what I just said,

again, I go there a ton. It don't not hit for me. But I've always kind of thought that Cracker Barrel was a bit overrated by people. Having said that, I don't, I've actually, I've never had their pancakes because I'm not a, I'm not a big, I'm not a, I don't ever really get pancakes. I know this is, you know, man. You know you boys. Yeah. But I'm, uh, I just don't, I don't know. Like, if I want breakfast stuff, I want like some runny eggs and some bacon and like some hash browns and that type of shit.

Right. But I just with the pancakes. I just don't. I don't know. Like, it's not like I dislike pancakes. I just don't ever choose pancakes. Yeah, I hear you. Well, that's, by the way, that's normal, I think and should be.

I shouldn't be having pancakes a lot, but I do. Right. But so I've never even had their pancakes there, but I've had a bunch of their other stuff. I like, you know, I'll switch. I've been there many times and I've switched it up often. And I find that it's all, you know, it don't not. It's all fine. Right.

To me, it's like, it's just fine. Like, their hash brown casserole roll has. gone down in quality over the years. I still fuck with it because as a side, it's whatever, but used to. It was like, I felt about their hash brown casserole, the way my parents' generation felt about McDonald's

fries, where it was like, this is a place where the side is the main attraction. You know what I mean? It was so good and nobody else had it. And they just, I think it's, I mean, completely all frozen now. Like, it's never, so like, I'll agree with you. Like, again, I can't say to anybody

that don't eat the pancakes, I can't argue with you on any of it because there's a reason I just get the pancakes. That's the thing that hits for me there. You know what I mean? So like, yeah, man, their hash brown casserole has gone down in quality and I have to assume so has everything else. If their main hitter went down in quality, I bet their green beans are ass too, you know. Right.

But again, but what all, you know, again, talking about corporate and shittification, like what hasn't, you know? Right. What hasn't gotten worse in some way? Like literally everything has gotten worse. And like you said, that's because of capitalism. which is y'all's shit, y'all being the people that are mad at them for being woke. Like all these problems go back to-

farm raised, bitch, like what the fuck? Yeah, I don't know. People used to just, if you had a business that hit him was successful, and you like, there was an ethos that went along with that. You like, because you did the right, you had a good product and treated your customers well, and that's how that worked. Everybody understood that.

And then somewhere along the way, like during, you know, St. Ronald Reagan's era corporations decided that, like, just hitting. wasn't enough. You have to like, you have to literally always grow or fucking fire everybody and tear everything down. Like, it's not acceptable if you're not constantly expanding, which is like a nonsensical concept to me.

For a restaurant to do. Yeah, for anything. I mean, I know that like fucking Amazon or whatever, it continues in crutch. But eventually, I mean, what's the end game of that? Are you watching that new alien show on FX? No, because Amber's never seen any of the movies. and I want to. Me and my boys are loving it.

It's Tuesday. I forget it comes out tonight. Oh, hell yeah. We've been loving that fucking show. But it's set in a world of future earth where there are no governments anymore. There's five mega corporations and they operate as the governments of these. Right. It's like that's the end state of.

Right. We're there. We just don't say it out loud. At least in this show they're saying it out loud. But like, bro, Elon bought the fucking election. You know what I mean? Like, yes. Yeah.

Well, that's great. I do want to watch it. Amber's never seen any of the alien movies. And so I'm going to use this as an opportunity for us. And Bain, I think Bain's ready. He's two and a half. You know what I mean? I mean, I don't know where Amber will go with it.

But I mean, Katie could not have any less interest in it. It feels like a very like it's. Well, that'll be fine too because then I can jump right to the show. I mean, it's classic like alien. Like there's, I mean, there's a lot of like, you know, people getting ripped apart by space monsters and stuff. Which of course hits for me very hard. my sons too. But it's also like, it's made by the guy that made the Fargo TV show, which is one of my

favorite things. Noah Hawley. God damn, dude. He's, he's on my list of hitters. Right. Yeah, for sure. Man, that show, like, I actually rewatch Fargo recently, like the movie. And it's obviously one of my favorite movies ever.

I love the Coen brothers. But like, I kind of fuck would, like, I would rather rewatch the show. Like, the show is like a different. I mean, it's a little bit unfair. fair because there's only Fargo the movie is like, A, Noah Holly, part of what made Noah Holly so good, and I would argue so far he's doing a lot of this with Alien, the world of Alien too,

but he like really captured the fucking tone. Atmospheric tone and essence of the Cohen Brothers movies, which I feel like cannot be easy to do, but he really nailed it. No, people tried to do it for years. Well, so I'm saying, but they are. Sometimes the Coen Brothers can't even do it. They are them, you know, like they're the ones who set that tone with the first movie. So you kind of got to give them the fucking, you know,

I mean, of course. But also, that movie is just a 90-minute super tight, really kick-ass movie, but it's one movie. Fargo, the TV show, has like five seasons or whatever. And season two, Fargo, is one of my favorite seasons of television that's ever been made by anybody in any context ever. I guess what I meant was, and you know this, but maybe everybody doesn't. Like, Coens are like my numero uno. So this is just me giving very high price to the show that I would go, I might would rather watch season one. of Fargo, then watch the movie again.

Or season two. Yeah, season two is the, that's the Patrick Wilson season, right? Yes. Oh, my God. Yes. Dude, that fucking speech he gives in the goddamn car to, who's he talking to? Literally, my favorite, he's talking to Kirsten Dunts. That's where Kirsten Dunn's met Jesse Clemens, by the way.

They're all fire. Her and Jesse Plymonds play a married couple in that show. That's how they met in real life. Now they're a real married couple. But yeah, he's talking to her, and he just talks about like the links that a man will go to for his family, basically. Oh, man. And it's awesome.

It fucking, I think literally is my favorite monologue in the history of television. So you sent that to me before I'd seen the show, but I didn't have kids when you sent it to me. And I was like, I knew that it hit. Like, I knew that it hit. And then I, when we had banned and I was staying at home a lot, I had forgot that that was what the show was from. And I just started watching that show. And when it got to that scene, boy, I wailed up. I was afraid, like, I'm a huge puss.

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And we thank Hems for sponsoring the podcast. Skiu. Mm-hmm. You think Bermundi at this point, though, is like the hot semi-new fish? Or has there been a fish that has taken its place? Because we've been saying that for like five years, but I still believe it. You're right. Yeah, that's what I was about saying.

There'd have to be a new fish to come in and supplant. Well, I guess, no, I mean, no, I mean, you're right. It, like. But what's the new fish? We hear about fishes. Okay. but even if they ain't a new fish, you can't just stay the new fish. Like you can only be the new fish at first, you know, the hot new fish, then you become eventually.

Like, recently on the hot fish. Just a hot fish. You can stay the hot fish. Right. But you can't just be the hot new fish anymore. You're right. Even if there isn't someone that supplanted you, it's like on a recent episode of POA, our sister podcast putting on air, is that we got to talking about old abbots, right? In D.C., our favorite, favorite restaurant there.

And it used to, humorously, to me, it used to be called new Ebbets. And then eventually it was just called Ebbets and now is called Old Ebbets, which I would argue exactly how things should work. Yeah, right. Fair enough. Exactly. Like, I commend them for that particular evolution. Oh, it's funny. Speaking of putting on air, as I was about to say, like, I'm still in the habit, which is stupid.

And this is more about how time marches insanely fast without you realizing it. Often I refer to putting on airs as our new podcast. And that motherfucker is almost four years old. But in the scheme of my podcast in life, it feels new. Because we've been doing this one for like nine years next year, which is crazy or something like that. But yeah, but you're right. It's just now the hot fish, I think. Or unless there is a hot new fish in which it's the hot old fish.

but I feel like I would have heard about a hot new fish. Yeah, I think so too. Although I don't know. Maybe not. I feel like they got the hottest, newest fishes in, like, Asia. Are we talking about only in America the hot new fish? Do you know what I'm saying? Are we limiting it to America?

I feel like it has to come to America for it to officially be the hot new fish. Yeah, it's like you got to make it here, you know, it's like, like, because if you can't make it here, you can't make it. Like, yeah, Robbie Williams, you know, who's hot shit in England, but never, crossed over in the U.S. So, you know. You'd get us with the monkey, didn't you? Robben. The monkey. Yeah.

With the monkey. I never under, like, I don't know what they were. I mean, it's fine to just make a British, probably, but just to make a British biopic about a British star and everything is like fine, but during that period when they were like,

and I get, once they have it, they have the movie. They're like, no, this movie hits. We might as well try to sell it in America, I guess, but that was just funny how much of a no-go that was like because everybody in america's like what who what the fuck are you what is any of that you know uh and then they got like mad and defensive about it you know yeah oh they got so mad they were like oh you thought we meant america okay with your taste and it's like fucking scoreboard dude i don't know what to tell you but like you know we watched uh the fucking queen biopic that fucker's from over there it's not the english of it it's that

Robbie Williams just don't hit for us. And I'm not saying he don't hit for me. I like plenty of his song. It is wild, though, and I think about this all the time. I mean, he truly, he's massive there. And there's still just that disconnect, you know, like, and that can happen. Most of the time, if you are, actually all of the time, if you are massive in America, unless maybe it's like country music, sure, but if you massive in America, you got a footprint

everywhere else. You know, that's just how it be. But that's not the same. now don't you wrong I would be totally fine with just hitting in one place that'd be great yeah but it go

but like no that's wild I mean I thought like I feel like for him it's like because again he's as I understand it he's like you know he's one of their biggest

legends ever I mean obviously obviously we've all you know like the fucking Beatles and the stones and shit which are also huge here but like he's like

I'm not going to say he's with that I don't know where he ranks is he like a British like Michael Jackson well even Michael Jackson probably the biggest star on earth, but like just for England. I think he's

huge, man. Right. So, yeah, that's the impression I've gotten too. And it's got to be nuts to be that there, but not here really, but he's from there. So it's like, it definitely still feels like, you know, obviously hitting.

It's got to be more frustrating than anything. But like, but there was, I'm sure this happened more than once and also, I don't, I'm not saying these guys stuck around, but I remember once I went to see, I went to go watch a cage the elephant show in Knoxville. Yeah. Amber's been the way said it was fire.

Yeah, you've never seen them live anywhere? I've never seen them live, no. They're, it, that's incredible. Yeah, they're one of those bands. It's like they're live. So, like, we, I first saw them, of course, I first saw them, of course, at Bonneroo when they just had the one song out,

ain't no rest for the wicked, that first song of theirs. They had that one song out, we were all like, yeah, that song hits for us. We didn't know anything else about them, but we'll go check it out at Bonarue. and me and the whole group I was with were like fucking blown away by them. Also, they're from a bowling green Kentucky, which is less than an hour from where I grew up. So, yeah, so they hit for me.

But their front man, their whole energy is just bananas. But anyway, I already knew that. I mean, I haven't, you know, I haven't been to like a concert to hit. And I couldn't tell you how long. So it's been forever since I seen them. But I probably saw four or five of their shows over the years. And I went to one of them once in Knoxville. and their opening act was a band called Biffy Clyro, right?

And they were opening for Caged Elephant at, by the way, at a, oh, wait, okay, never, all right, well, part of what I was going to say about this is wrong, because I thought Biffy Clyro. Now, well, they're, so they're scultish, it turns out Biffy Clayroll. Makes a lot of sense. I thought I remember looking up at the time, and I thought they were like similar to Caged Elephant, meaning in terms of origin.

I was thinking they were an American band. So never mind. I was thinking that like, they were like one of the headliners at fucking Glastonbury, right? Right. Right. Because I saw, because I saw them on the poster and was like,

what? What? The fuck. Because at, you know, they opened for a cage of elephant at like the Valerian is what it was called. I don't even know it's still there. And I feel like,

not a fucking arena, not a huge place. Like this was years ago relatively early. And they were like, the whiplash of that got to be bananas, but I didn't realize they were from over there. So that's probably all in the game for them, the effort of trying to make it in America. But I tell you, I do think experienced at the beginning.

The darkness. What I was going for just now, but failed with Biffie Clyro is the Kangs of Leon. I'm pretty sure being from Oklahoma, that they popped first in England. in Europe and shit. And we're like doing arenas and shit like that over there before they actually hit in America.

And then of course, they did hit in America and became huge for a little while there. But they, it's just got to be wild. I feel like when it happened, like imagine if you got immensely popular in like Switzerland would love it tomorrow. Right. But that, yeah, it gets to be popular anywhere. But like, I don't know. Walking in your own country and nobody knowing who you are, but going internationally and

there's a mob would be crazy. Or actually, dude, fuck all that. We have this, we have this in comedy. Again, he ended up, like, hitting at a real high level, but for a long time, Russell Peters, who's Canadian, not American. But he, you know, you can't, like all Canadians, he doesn't, you know, he can pass for an American. He, uh, he can pass for a lot of things.

Yeah, for a long time, he was literally the biggest comic globally. But not here. And we do massive, massive shows in India and Asia and all. all like literally all over the world but not here and like that I don't know that's just again the hidden part of it hits of course but it's got to drive you a little bit crazy and like all these other people happens to wrestlers all the time Russell Peters did yeah that happens to them in like Japan and shit right and yeah Stan Hanson is like and he's super in real life he is a country boy Texas boy or whatever and that's the character he plays played on TV chewing the back of

bull rope like one of my it's how good he is is that two of my favorite matches ever are him versus Lex Lugar. And it's the only way a Lex Lugar match would be one of my favorites. It's a bull rope match with him. And he's so fucking good and he's so American and blah, blah, blah. But like nowadays, I've worked with him at conventions and like the lines, whatever. But not to me, I'm like, how the fuck are more people not here for Stan Hanson? This is crazy.

You know, he's an American hero. And I talked to his son and he's like, he's like, bro, I ain't even worried. And I was like, why he goes, you should see this shit when we're in Japan. he's like he might as well be goddamn old cogent and i believe him and i looked up and like sure enough stan hanson is he walks he can't walk around japan without people wanting him to put him in a fucking headlock and shit but over here it i mean sure somebody every now and then yeah i don't know it might depending on the person there might be some some people might kind of like part of that he seems to love it he leaned in and married a japanese woman and just moved

over there. Yeah, well, no, again, I know you like the hitting part of it, but I mean, like, sometimes it's like, you know, having success, but coupled with anonymity, depending on your personality and everything could be something that hits for people. So I just think of it more as like in terms of like being a draw or a headliner and like trying to sell tickets and like the idea that, you know, being able to sell out a massive fucking theater on the other side of the world, but you can't fill a club up where you're from or whatever would just, uh, I don't know.

I just feel like it would be wild to deal with psychologically. We've had a micro experience in it because I remember like, it seems like in my brain it was back to back weeks. It's like the well red tour went through Austin and sold out Austin City Limits. And then we went and played to 12 people in Buffalo, which was just different regions, but also America, many people would say is six different countries and, you know,

whatever. But like that was a like, how the fuck. What a wild two weeks to have. have in your emotions, you know. No, that's still, versions of that still, uh,

still be happening to this day. But, um, and yeah, it is weird. So I guess that's why I'm even, you know, framing this conversation this way right now is because I've,

my own version of experience with it. But there's also no rhyme. It's like you said, there's different regions, but it's like, uh, it is, it varies wildly for me in different markets and not always.

and not always in ways that I feel like automatically makes sense. Yeah. Sometimes, some of them do make sense. One that we've always brought up, we can move on to something else after this, I'm sure people don't give a fuck.

But like Huntsville, Alabama, I've always thought, I've always thought you would think, just if you know anything about Huntsville, Alabama, you would think that that would be like a fucking stronghold in terms of like markets or whatever for me.

Because I know some people like, people in like Portland, you know, be like, oh, a crush in Portland. And, you know, people in Oregon would be like, well, yeah, you know, for obvious reasons, you know, of course you hit harder here than in the South, but it's not, but there are other parts of the South where it.

North Carolina is like my best market ever. Nashville, Riley, right? Yeah, fucking Riley, Atlanta, Nashville, Austin, a lot of places in the South. So Huntsville is like fucking, you know, they got all that rocket science shit. It's like fucking, it's Alabama, but there's fucking smart people around and stuff and you just think it would hit, but it. And they're smart enough to not waste money on us. Right.

I guess. Yeah. It don't not. We've had good times in Huntsville and stuff. It's like, it doesn't not hit. But it's hard to sell tickets. Yeah.

Right. The people that come are great. And I love Huntsville. Some of my best friends live there. I go there more than just to perform. Huntsville rules. Not trying to say that. It is just a weird market for comedy.

And I know a lot of people that feel that way. It's odd. It's just, it's very odd. Speaking of comedy, I did have one thing I wanted to bring up. I was thinking earlier, and I should have texted you and tell you I wanted to do this

so you could think of some things. but fuck it who cares um i was just thinking about like specific lines in come like not full jokes not just like sort of tags that just really stand out to me and i think about them all the time even if not within the context of the joke and i think my favorite fucking line just the economy of words here and i think it's funny even if you say it out of context was it's in the the ron white tater salad story which is arguably the greatest fucking stand-up bit ever, in my opinion. Like, it and the machine and like all type,

for that type, a long story. And the funniest fucking line that sticks with me, and I think about it all the time, especially when, especially when like me and Amber argue, is when he says, I had the right to remain silent, but I didn't have the ability.

Yeah, right. That's such a fun. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, 11, 13 words. 13 words says everything about that fucking joke and it's so goddamn funny and I was curious if there's like

any lines that you can think of from like some Izard bits that like just the line sticks. Why did you say Izard? Because I know you like Eddie Izard a lot and he has a lot of lines like that. Yeah, okay. But we hadn't talked about that

because I don't know. You're my best friend, Tray, and I know you like Eddie Isard a lot. I know but what you don't know is I've spent the past few days like re-watching Eddie Izard clips like over this, over this weekend. I know that's what I'm saying.

Like you were bringing this up and I was going to, I was saying like, oh yeah, I was just watching, re-watching a bunch of Eddie Izards. Well, I've got the brining. I've told you. Yeah, right. Forever. I wore this hat so you could bring up your stupid shit.

I know, you, Trey. I'm trying to think like what really like counts though, because there's certain, some of them it's just like, I mean, I could think a ton from just Eddie Isard alone where it's like, again, but I'm not saying they all would work without the context. I think most of them probably. don't, but it's like, uh, well, whatever, just, just great tags, you know, um, there's one

where he's talking about, uh, how JFK, JFK had the very, he went to the Berlin wall or whatever and gave a speech and he said something like, it been, I'm Berliner, which supposed to mean, you know, I am a Berliner. He was like, but the thing that Americans didn't realize is it actually, and I'm not, I may not have this exactly right. He was like, I'm, Berliner is a very popular type of like pastry, like a donut there. in Berlin. So it sounded like he said, you know, I am a donut. And he's like, all the Germans there is like, what's he mean? I'm a done. He's like, and then the line is he's like, well, you know, he's, he's America. You know, he's a don't. He's a fucking donut. He's a fucking donut. You know, and

there was, there's a, there's a him as God played by James Mason. He goes, geezie, crazy. What on earth is that? Which is him talking to Jesus. That's my favorite 80-hazard line is is the is king or prince charles or whatever going a plumber what's on the earth is that yeah uh yes that's great and right after the jeezy-cruzy thing he's like holy ghost this is not an episode of scooby-do um and there's uh let's see cake or death obviously it's like uh do you have a flag no flag no country can't have one those are the rules that i've just made up uh fucking most, you know, like Mussolini, talking about Mussolini bringing fascism to Italy or whatever.

And he's like, well, most Italians are not fascists. You know, they're running around on Scoot is going, chow fucking, yeah, just, I mean, almost everything that motherfucker does, you know, we're talking about, there's no where he's tough because that's kind of almost like his whole style, really is, is that type of thing. I think that's why my brain goes to Ron White because, because like, I don't, I don't, don't think that any of us intentionally molded ourselves on Ron White, but it was impossible for him not to rub off because of when he popped off and who we are and how we sound or whatever.

And that fucking line, like, I think about it all the time. Like, it makes me so mad that I didn't think of that shit. Right. I mean, obviously, he thought of it way before I could have ever thought of it. But, like, that is such a perfect me line. And then I hear him saying, I go, I can never recreate that even in the aggregate. this is he said a thing that is so good and no nobody can ever say that again or have that fucking thought like it's just yeah there's so many of those in that story where i'm like god damn it i have

to like when i'm telling a story not even trying i'll have to go what is that a thing ron white said that's so cemented in my brain that that's just how you tell stories you know yeah he's there's another edy is or does a bit where he's talking about how and you know this is from dress to kill like 25 years ago but it's still true though but he was talking about so ahead of its time that special. How, insanely so.

It's like also like, well, I don't know. So much I could say about fucking Eddie is there in that special and everything. But like, I'll watch it about how American movies versus British movies, you know, and Americans all exploding and shit and British people's like,

you know, room with a view of a lake and a pond and stuff like that. And it goes into an act out of the British movies. Like British movies is sort of just, men opening doors and going, oh, oh, I'm, I'm sorry. What is it, Sebastian? I'm arranging matches. And I just, that's perfect, you know.

And then later he does a call back to that when he's talking about America movie, you know, Star Wars huge spectacle or whatever. He's like, I'm talking about mixing them together or whatever. And it's like, what is it, Lieutenant Sebastian? He's like, it's just the rebels, sir, they're here. and that's all he says and it's so funny and then the guy's like

oh what do they want you know he's like I'm not sure what it is but they've brought a flag and you know another great callback to the to the colonialism and flag bit or whatever but yeah no that special is just it's one of the fucking goats

and I feel like it gets like comedians definitely know it and know that it hits or whatever but I don't people in this country at least going back to the conversation we were having earlier I feel like Americans who fuck with comedy don't properly rate dress to kill where I think it belongs, which is among like, I mean,

some of the very best ever, top 10, easy, maybe top five for me. I could be wrong, but like the whole like culture now of, you know, goats or the goats or the Mount Rushmore, like we're such a, not that we've not always been obsessed with who's the best or who's whatever, but like now it seems like, and I think this is to our complete misery and disadvantage. We only talk about whoever we think is the top four or the top one. And like Eddie Isard

probably not one of those for me or for many people, but that doesn't mean he's not great. But I think we do that. We go, those are the four, everybody else sucks. Like, no, nobody else is good. And so because of that, like, there aren't enough people that talk about dress to kill or a good Catholic boy

by Richard Jenny. Like Richard Jenny, which he fucking killed himself, which didn't help. you know but like he had so many good back when they were putting that you could only get a special on HBO like that and and it would and by the way it meant you ruled it wasn't now like now like where they just think oh they've got a TikTok following so they might Richard Jenny was so goddamn funny but he rarely gets brought up because again unless you make that four or one cut we're like that's all we it's all we want to talk about you know what I

mean and I feel like so many of the true greats sort of just you know get lost um like Like, I personally don't think, not that he doesn't get his flowers, but I personally think Brian Regan ain't talked about near enough by not enough people because he's not on the Mount Rushmore or whatever. But like, I'm telling you right now, go watch any of his early specials. Brian, Brian Regan standing up, Brian Regan, the epitome of Hyper Bowl, and tell me it's not, a lot of people will go with him like, I'm sure that they'd say with Eddie is or like, oh, he just put on a dress and thinks that's funny.

Or, oh, Brian Regan just makes faces so he thinks that's funny. I'm like, no, no, no, listen to how sharp the joke writing is, how the economy of words, like I said, like, if you watch a Regan, if you watch a Regan thing, each one of his goofy faces doesn't make up for something that wasn't funny. It highlights something that was and takes it to the stratosphere. You know what I mean? It's not like throwing in the word fuck because you couldn't think of anything else. It was, this was funny. How can I put an exclamation point on that? And also, if you removed any word, it wouldn't be as funny. And if you added another word, it wouldn't be as funny. He would, is the perfect. He did it. Like, he figured it out. You know what I mean? And those fuckers should be talked about more.

Yeah. The other thing with Eddie Izard, too, is it's like, like you say, oh, people would, well, I remember one time some fucking dumb asses I went to high school with, like came by my house to see what I was up to. We're like teenagers at this point. They walk in. I'm watching some guy stuff. Let's go.

They walked in. I was watching an Eddie Izard special. I actually think it was Circle, the one after Dress to Kill, which I also loved. But Dres to Kills again, All-timer for me. But they walked in and saw that. they were just like, you know, of course, like, what the fuck? And what the fuck is it? You know, whatever.

And I was like, I was like, just listen to it for a second. It's fucking funny. And of course, they just wouldn't. But, uh, but, hey, that, in Dress to Kill in particular, it's also like, here's one of the things I was going to say earlier. The general consensus is, I don't mean, you've talked about before and largely agree. First of all, a fact is that stand up was, is an American invention. Stand up and jazz. Everybody said two.

I believe was the first one. American art forms. And so a lot of people still believe, and I mostly agree, that America is ahead of pretty much everywhere else in terms of stand up and always has been, and it remains that way, right? And so there's outliers, like Jim Jeffries has long since been an outlier, right? He's one of the very best there is, in my opinion, which is new special, if you haven't seen it, fucking rules.

But anyway, Eddie Isard, British stand up 25 years ago doing stuff that was miles ahead of so many contemporaries at that time because it also was this shit that he was talking like he was fucking smart he was smart and he was talking about i know you love this shit he's talking all these bits about history oh my god history religion and languages and all this stuff i would i'd love to be him but i can't because i'm not as smart as him right it's like uh you know you're supposed to you were supposed to disagree just kind of comically just like oh no chow you're smart sorry well no i mean i but i i i i i i agree with you about that in terms of myself too. I mean, like I'm saying, I feel the same way. But yeah, I don't know. Because we've also talked about before about how, like, I feel like, there's other British comics that do that and you hit over there. It's a whole thing.

I brought it up plenty of time over the years. But even more than him, like Stephen Fry, for example. Like over there, you could be an intellectual and a comedian and they're like, they go with that. But in America, we mostly are like, no, you're supposed to be. dumb. Like, honestly, Mark Merrin hitting real hard right now is a miracle, and I'm glad. Right.

But usually it's like you can be brilliant like Bill Burr is, but on stage you got to be like, don't fucking listen to me. I'm an ass. I don't know anything. I fucking failed. You know, like, we always have to present it that way because otherwise it's pretentious and people don't like it in this country. But like, in England, they can get away with it.

But Eddie Isard was doing that and hit in America at the time. As a fucking, what he called, an executive transatlantic. vestite. He was cross-dressing and shit while doing it and doing big crowds and shit. That dress to kill, I don't remember. I think he was filmed in D.C. or New York. It was filmed somewhere in America. I know that. And it, you know, huge crowd. So,

it's just, he's just wild, man. He was wild. Yeah, he is. And he's, he's one of the greats without question. Yep. All right. Yeah. Well, I have to wrap her up now. We can. But do you know what I have to do after we do this? What? I have to go to my first ever school open house as a parent.

Bain's going to preschool How already? It's a Mother's Day out thing where it's just on Wednesday, but it is preschool. You know, they do the thing. I'm not happy about it, but it's happening to me.

And I have to go and meet new people. Yeah, that don't hit. No, it don't hit. It very don't hit. So I just wanted to say that out loud to somebody who cares. Yeah. Anyways, where you're going to be? Via condios, baby.

Thank you. my next shows, I believe, are in, I think, upstate New York. I got like Buffalo and Albany and Syracuse and stuff, Hartford, Connecticut. And then there's also a run through Northern Virginia coming up soon, Alexandria, and Rocky Mountain, some other places. And then after that, there's like Milwaukee. I'm all over the place. Go to Trey Crowder.com. We got stuff booked all the way through, like spring of next year already.

There's tons of them, you know, South Carolina, Oklahoma City, me, Cho and Drew will be a Nashville. at Zanis together before Christmas like we always are. That's all on there. So go to tracrider.com and come save me, please. Hey, if you want to subscribe to my bonus stuff on my hero, or you want to get a cameo from me because the holidays are coming up and I stay booked during the holidays. So go ahead and get that out of the way, and you can forget about it.

Go to Corey Ryan Forrester.com. It's got all for you to do that. Thank you all for listening to The Well Red Show. We love to stick around longer, but we got to go. A tune in next week, if you got nothing to do, Thank you. God bless you. Good night and skew. Part.

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