wellRED podcast - The Depths Of Reddit

Episode Date: May 13, 2026

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They're the liberal rednecks they like cornbread, but sex they care way too much, but don't give a fun. They're the liberal rednecks that makes some people upset, but they got three big old dicks that you can suck. Well, here we are, just me and Cho. It's a Drulis edition this week. He's doing something else. We moved the time on him at the last second. He couldn't accommodate it. So he's not his fault.

I'm upset. He's not here because I got something for you right up top that I think that you and Drew would specifically find even more hilarious than me just because of your past affiliation with this human being. I don't know if you saw the headline, but it was said Lane Kiffin says part of the reason that he left Ole Miss was because of racism, right? No, I did not see it. Yeah, and I, dude, when I saw it, I was like, okay, this is just like somebody has made an AI article thing or whatever. It's just, it's funny. Against white people? So, no, no, no.

Okay. No, no. He meant that the state of Mississippi and Oxford was racist, and he himself just couldn't abide by it, basically. So he went to Baton Rouge, Louisiana. He says, this is what he says. at Old Miss Kippen says top recruits would tell him, hey, coach, we really like you, but my grandparents aren't going to let me move to Oxford, Mississippi. And he said that doesn't come up when you say Baton Rouge, Louisiana.

He said parents were sitting here this weekend saying that the campus's diversity feels so great, and it feels like there's no segregation. Obviously, what he means by that is by contrast, I suppose, to Oxford, Mississippi. And we want that for our kid because that's the real world. The next day, Kiffin added, I just hope this comes across as respectful to Ole Miss. There are some things that I'm saying that are factual. They're not shots.

I mean, to be fair to him, I was kind of thinking about this not long ago because the NFL draft just happened. And so something brought up that there was a draft day scandal like eight, 10 years ago, something like that, where an Ole Miss player, Laramie Tunsell, a tackle, who was supposed to be drafted like at the very top of the draft. That day, a video leaked of him smoking weed and a gas mask. Yeah.

And I feel like today that wouldn't even do anything. But 10 years ago, that made him fall to like the middle of the first round. He ended up going to the dolphins at like pick 14 or something, which would have cost him like a shitload of money. So that's still a little bit for him. But anyway, in the video, he's smoking, weeding a gas mask and behind him on the wall in his room. you can see in Larry Me Tumsel's a black guy

you can see the Confederate flag Yeah right And everybody was like There's a lot going on here What the fuck is that about? But it The video was like cropped in the full video The American, the Confederate flag that you saw

Was the portion of the at the time State flag of Mississippi Right Right right And he played at Ole Miss because for years Up until very recently The state flag of Mississippi had the stars and bars in it Yeah

And so I was that had gotten brought back up and I was remembering all that and I was actually thinking like, dude, it's kind of wild to me that they got black players to come and play there with, you know, all that going on like prominently.

Now they finally, they did change it like what, five, six years ago or something like relatively recently, but still it's been a few years since they changed it. But I was thinking like, because I don't know where, Laramie Tunsel might be from Mississippi, but I feel like if you're not from

Mississippi, I do feel like you show up there for a campus visit or whatever and there's stars and bars flying all over the place. I could say that. And if you're going to be a pretty big red and blue and white flag. Right. And if you're, if you're getting an offer from Ole Miss, it's likely not your only one. You know what I mean? Right.

You got choices. Right. It would be one thing if it was like either play Ole Miss or go to Jucco. And it's like, all right, fine. But that was in a separate article I read, he had some. had asked him to clarify and one of the things he mentioned was the amount of Confederate flags that were still up and associated with the program and also people's insistence on continuing with Johnny Reb like all the fans not letting that go or whatever and it just kind of and like you

know I know some people are going to say it sounds ridiculous but like yeah I'm I'm with you like if I'm a black dude I can't speak for him but I'm just imagining here and like I could go to not that Georgia and Alabama aren't racist I'm not saying that but like yeah I go on a couple visits and in one place I see the Confederate flag everywhere, it's probably going to go into my decision-making process. Right. Yeah, but the old Confederate colonel, Johnny Reb, Colonel, Colonel Reb, Colonel Rebbe, whatever, I remember that being a thing too.

Because I remember for a minute they went with the new mascot was the Rebel Black Bear. I remember that, the Rebel Black bears, which in Googling it, apparently that got replaced with Tony, the land shark? Yeah, the shark. Which is, do you know what that's about? Tony the land shark sounds like a New Jersey college. It sure does. It sure does. I'm just hearing lone shark instead of land shark. But I still don't, what's a land shark have to do with Mississippi?

Buddy, I couldn't tell you. I mean, I mean, you know, Joey Freshwater went there. Maybe they're going for a nautical thing. No idea. That probably would have been around the time he was there. Landshark is also obviously a famous Saturday Night Live sketch

also a very popular Jimmy Buffett beer who fucking knows all I know is like he wasn't even talking about like what their official mascots and stuff was he was basically just saying

like all the fans and thus the surrounding area regardless of what they said like hey we're not doing this anymore they were just like yeah well we are you know it's kind of like the Braves it's kind of like the Braves and the Tomahawk chop like dude the Braves organization

for years has been like, we don't want y'all to do it. But the fans just keep on doing it. And so, like, people get online and start shitting on the Braves for it. And I'm like, look, I'm not here to defend a freaking billion dollar corporation slash sports franchise.

But, like, they did all they can do. You can't stop. You can't go out there and lock people's heads off for doing a thing, you know. Right. Yes. Yeah. So, yeah, they got rid of all the iconography, I thought,

in an official capacity, but they kept the name Rebels, which at the time I was like, well, if you don't have all the Confederate shit, Rebel can be, you know. It's a fine thing.

Right. There's Star Wars, you know, associations or whatever. Rebel can be anything. It doesn't have to be. James Dean. If you get rid of all the Confederate stuff.

But yeah, but if all the fans and shit are still rocking the Confederate shit, which I'm sure they are, also, I mean, now I would have thought if it's like a kid from fucking Michigan or California or something,

you're talking to his parents, like, Yeah, Mississippi's got a real bad reputation, but I definitely would have thought that that would extend to Louisiana too. For sure. If you're talking about like California parents or something, yeah, I wouldn't have thought that they'd be like, oh, Louisiana, well, that's fine. It's all Alabama to them. But if you, right, but if you go there and you go to one campus and there's Confederate flags all over the place, you go to, you know, Baton Rouge and there's not, then, you know, I can see all that being a real thing. It's funny to talk about all that purely in the context of it was putting him at a competitive disadvantage, you know,

because that's how coaches process everything. Of course. That's how college football got desegregated in the south in the first place, because Alabama got their asses whipped by USC and Bear Bryant was like, we got to get some black guys in there. Yeah, good call. It's a good change. So anyway, Tony the Landshark.

All right. They had, I don't remember this guy at all. This would have been when I was in college. In 2008, they had a linebacker named Tony Fine, or Feene, F-E-I-N, Tony Fine. He was older because he had been in the Army and served in Iraq and then enrolled in college. And so he was a U.S. Army veteran in 2008 who was now playing linebacker for Ole Miss. His name was Tony. And he did like a shark.

His celebration was like a hand fan. Okay. He did like a thin thing. Yeah. So I guess he was, you know, Tony the shark or Tony the Land Shark or whatever. And he was like a good player for them. He was kind of iconic for that shit. He OD'd and died.

Oh, boy. And stuff, you know. Jeez. What are you going to do? It was in Iraq. It's, you know, you'll have that. You will have that. I just didn't see this, that coming.

Well, so that made it kind of something of a legend there. Of course. And that's why that's why they had Tony. the Landsharp but apparently so when I got rid of Colonel Reb they did the Rebel Black Bear first he only lasted three years didn't hit for people then they went with straight to black bear love that I know I feel like they're trying to you know they're over correcting yeah yeah but then it's a silverback gorilla you're happy now the but then they went to Tony the Landshark after that and he lasted only three it says since 2021 Tony the Landshark ain't been around either so I don't know what they're doing anymore but Sort of in limbo.

Yeah, they're sort of like the Daily Show. They just can't pick a host. They keep, you know, just rotating the ones around. I mean, you know, that's the thing of Johnny Rebel is like, if you, it's like, I don't know, man. It's like we've had this conversation a million times. Like the Rebel flag just on its own looks fucking badass. It's just all the shit that it means. And if you take away all of the shit that it means, then Johnny Rebel himself.

is just an old papal, I guess, in a hat, and which is, I don't know, that's fine, I guess. I don't know. But fuck, man, what are you going to do? I just, people always bring it up, like, you know, what would you do if your favorite sports team all of a sudden change their name? And luckily, I don't think bulldogs or titans are ever going to get canceled, so I won't have to really worry about it.

But I would like to, like, actually, I know for a fact, if the Braves all of a sudden they were like, look, man, we can't have anything to do with Native Americans. Americans at all, even if it's respected them or whatever. And the Braves had to change their name. Like, I mean, yeah, that would, I guess suck because I've known them as that my whole life, but I still feel like I would root for the fucking home team. Like, regardless, I'd just be like, yeah, we got new stuff now.

I don't know. Well, I don't think, I mean, were there papas in Mississippi that abandoned Ole Miss? Probably some, because there's plenty that did the Washington commanders and the fucking Cleveland Guardians. I promise you that. I've seen it. I mean, now they may have just been preaching.

really loud and then when it came down to it they were like, well, I still got season tickets. But there are people that were just like, I will never support this whatsoever. But again, there's I mean, there's still the rebels. Yeah, yeah, right. The mascot changed and the whole ass state flag changed.

But like with the Cleveland Indians, you know, they're the guardians now and it's the colors. Same with the commies, the commanders, same color scheme and all that, but you know, a whole different name and logo and stuff. So, well, some of those people won't take an inch, dog. Any type of concession is, you know, relative to treachery to them.

That is true. I also had a thing I was going to ask that I was curious to hear what Drew would say, and you as well, but, you know, Drew is the one who's not here. I saw something on where else Reddit. I thought it was, I don't know if you've been on Reddit recently, but there's a new, hot new subreddit over there. Okay. It's called Alignment charts, I think. Something about alignment charts.

So it's like there's an X and Y axis. Oh, yeah. And it's like, you know, like the last one I saw there was only four squares. It was like U.S. states. And it was like, oh, yeah. Seems and is. So it's like, you know,

same's liberal or conservative. Right. And then is liberal or conservative. So each square is like a state that seems liberal, but is conservative. It seems liberal and is liberal. So, you know, you get it. Right. I saw a big one yesterday.

It had all the different continents, right? And so for North America, then, you know, North America, South America, all the different continents. Although I don't know how the fuck they're going to do Oceania. That's pretty much just Australia. But anyway, which country embodies, I guess, each of the seven deadly sins, right?

Well, we're gluttony in North America, right? Okay, see, that's why I want to bring it up. It's interesting, in my opinion, because they made the rule ahead of time, because whoever, the O.P, the poster, can come up with whatever rules they want. And they made the rule for this one and said, no repeats. Like, each country can only have one. Right. And there were people saying, like, well, that's a good thing because if it was,

if repeats were allowed, America would be like almost all of these. The big seven, yeah. But I don't agree with that. And I'm wondering which ones, A, which ones you think. don't apply to America really. And then B, yeah, since you do have to pick only one,

pick just one. It has to be, because it's not just us. It's Mexico, too. No, no, no, no, no. You're sorry.

I'm sorry, I didn't make it clear. Oh, you pick the country. Each row is a different continent. Okay. So of the countries in North America, so everything from Panama up

and the Caribbean. Those are countries that you can pick for each of the seven things. Yeah, yeah, us, Canada, Mexico, Costa Rica, whatever. us for gluttony.

Okay. Which ones do you think do not apply to the U.S.? Do not apply of the seven deadly sin? Well, it's wild because there were some people trying to say like, oh, you can give the U.S. any of them, but I don't agree with that. There's part of me that would go like, oh, yeah, you can give a sloth because people, if I'm going to, if I'm going to give us gluttony,

then obviously we're a lazy bunch. But like, that's really not true. I mean, and not for a, not for good reason, by the way, but we are like grind culture central. hustle. Like we're, get done with your nine to five and start your five to nine. And a lot of that,

to me, well, a lot of it now is pure necessity because we are in late stage capitalism and it's fucking killing us. But a lot of it before that, it was just baked into us. Like that manifest destiny grind, the city that never sleeps.

And I'm not saying that capitalism wasn't influencing these, but these were all sort of became our style before, like when we were still, quote, great. You know what I mean? I agree. I think that in terms of sloth

across the whole globe, I think like us, Japan, us in Japan and China probably are like, I would argue, the three least stereotypical stereotypically slothful countries in the world. So I don't think sloth fits the U.S. and all. There's two more

that I don't think fit the U.S. whatsoever. Okay, so ring them off to me. I mean, obviously I've read the Bible, but I just need to sloth, pride. Yeah. uh, gluttony.

It's funny. You say you read the Bible, but for me, it's like, I've seen the movie seven with David, David, David, David,

David, David, different times. Yeah. But yes, what, you said pride, gluttony,

soft, greed, lust, envy, and, uh, wrath. Oh, envy, that ain't us.

Exactly. But dude, like, matter of fact, we're the reverse of that. We're just like, you hate us because you ain't us, exactly.

We're the least in this country on. Meaning that we have a lot of pride. We're definitely guilty of that one. Like, maybe the most of all time. Yes, right. Yeah, envy is the second of the three that I was like, that don't apply to us at all.

Because there ain't a single American who thinks any other, is envious of any other country. I am. I am. Americans, they're envious of like Sweden and shit. But if you had to amalgamate us into one person that represented America, that person, fuck you were number one.

100% without question. Yes. Yeah. All right. Number three. So there was, I said, obviously greed, yeah, that applies to us. Sloth doesn't, envy doesn't. What were the other ones?

Pride, lust, wrath, and which one did you not say? I'd say lust. What depends on how we're interpreting that. Like, we'd be lusting after oil, you know. I think lust is the one that I think, too, because compared to, especially, other Western countries. Yeah. We're like puritanical.

They talk about it all the time. Right. We're like prudes. We are. I mean, it's like a huge thing with, and so I, I don't think, I don't think less applies either. Yeah. So those are the three that I don't think apply.

The other four, sure, you can make a case for all. Without question. But wrath, bro. Come on. But like, which one do you think got it? At the end of the day, they only pick one. Gluttony. And it's the most upvoted one.

No, not gluttony. And for, what I think is a pretty good reason, because again, you've got to think ahead. Remember, you've got to think about what other countries are going to get these other things. It's like when people do that Snapchat thing where you do a top 10 and you've got to plan ahead because you don't want to get away the number one spot too early. I just can't think of a more gluttonous group of people. In North America, we've talked about it before.

Oh, Mexico. Yeah. Yeah, okay, right. Mexico is actually flatter than us. Yeah, they are. You're right. Which is, again, so wild. You've got to give it up.

Good Lord. Right. No small feet. Mexico. I mean, I know that they overtook us in fatness years back. I assume they've kept the crown. It was probably our fault. Either way. Mexico, yeah, we'll get gluttony. So what, which one do you think they gave us? It's close. Wrath? And I can't argue with it. No. Pride? No, the only one left. I can't remember what the other one was. Greed. Greed, yeah. I mean, Yeah.

Yeah. Greed kind of defines everything. Even the wrath, the wrath is like, because of greed. Because of greed. Yeah. A lot like fucking,

you know, like you said, the late stage capitalism, fucking manifest destiny, all that shit is all kind of comes back to greed. I mean, I mean, when you look at the fact that we're the,

the most developed world without, you know, proper health care, I mean, that's all because of greed. When you look at the fact that we have more people in prison, not per capita just at all than any country ever. That's fucking greed.

And yeah, we don't, people just don't be getting houses, even though we got plenty of them. And yeah, we suck in that regard. But God damn it, we're not jealous. So the only ones that have been, they hadn't done all of them yet when I saw this. I should check back in on it. But they gave pride to Canada, which I guess is a thing.

I mean, they seem. pretty. It's funny. They do actually. Yeah, right. But in a, I feel like with them, in a gay wave, well, I was going to say it, and this is the difference between the way the two countries are perceived, sure, they are very proud to be Canadian, but it doesn't feel like in a seven deadly sins type of way. It seems to have a positive connotation. Right. You know what I mean? When it comes to Canada, whereas like American pride, that is bad. Oh, yeah. Canadian pride is like, it's good, good for them. We're, yeah, we're happy that people think we're not. We're not. We're Nice.

Yeah, that's how the rest of the world sees it, I feel like. So they gave pride to Canada, greed to us, and gluttony to Mexico. And I don't know what country's got the other ones yet because it had not been finished yet. Yeah, I don't know much about the other countries. I ain't going to find. Of course not. We're American. Right.

Sloth. Like, what the fuck you're going to give Cuba? Right. Sloth has almost got to be one of them Caribbean countries, I'd think, just because they're islands. And so you picture people lounging around. Yeah. and I would argue. Jamaica, maybe.

I don't know. You know, they'd be smoking weed on the beach. I'm sure they're very hard workers. No, I was going to say, I would argue that. Official stereotypes here. I would argue that somebody. Yeah, I would argue that that's similar to the pride in Canada thing is like, yeah, you got to give it to them, but I don't find theirs to be like a sinful way.

Theirs has always been like, hey, man, El Aviv. Like, dude, yeah, we're going to get our stuff done. But at the end of the day, take a break, relax, you know, all that stuff. And like, yeah, because that's, that's why I picked America for the, for the, we couldn't be sloth because like other countries are constantly,

like when we go visit other countries, they're like, goddamn Americans just want to eat in 35 minutes so they can get up and go do the next thing. You're supposed to have a three hour dinner and stuff. And I'm like, we would interpret that as sloth,

but I go, yeah, but that's good. You should just hang around with your family and stuff. Nothing wrong with that. Yeah. Yeah,

I agree. What about just opening it up to the whole world with lust, strides probably what you think France or Spain? Yeah, I was going to definitely say lust is either France or like Brazil

or something like that. Uh-huh. Envy. Envy. On the global scale. Envy. North Korea. I was just about to say North Korea.

They got to be. That's what I was just thinking. I mean, I think that the people, I think that the citizens of North Korea, the ground level citizens, they apparently are so propagandized. They have no idea. They have no idea.

they don't know to be envious, but I definitely think that, you know, they covet what South Korea has in China and a bunch of it certainly seems that way. Yeah, dude, that's why Kim Jong-un actually the way he does. Russia, right, on a global scale? Israel. Oh, yeah. You're right. I don't know what I'm thinking. Israel definitely is, yeah, for sure.

Which is wild because they're so little, you know what I mean? David and Goliath. Yeah. That is a good one. Yeah. I mean, Russia. Russia got something. I know, but

I mean, what are you going to give them? Yeah. If you try, if we take it around the whole globe and go back to pride, you know, it doesn't have to be Canada. Germany? Right. I don't know. I think Germany, they,

I've always heard that Germany has like really, really good about handling a past shit in ways that the South and, like, Japan are not. Right, but they did famously have a lot of pride for a while. Oh, yeah, they did.

I'm just saying it takes... That got them bitch slap, though, so... It sure did. I'm just saying it got them a lot of points in the Winston Cup series. You know what I mean? Uh-huh. Pride. Here's the top all-time post on there, you might think is fun.

Conspiracy theory alignment chart, all right? One side, one axis is, sounds reasonable enough. Then the next one is pretty, sounds like a pretty big stretch, then crackpot and then bat shit insane, right? Yeah. And then the other axis is completely totally false, highly unlikely, unknown, and then actually true. So if I told you one that sounds reasonable enough but is completely false, what do you think got that? Sounds reasonable enough, but is completely false.

Oh, that the queen killed Princess Diana. You know what? That's a much better answer than what they came up with. Yeah, I'm really good at this. I'd give that to you. Because even before you said that, I don't really agree with this. It doesn't sound particularly reasonable to me. The one that won that one on Reddit is faking the moon landing.

No, it does not sound reasonable at all. It doesn't. It's the stupidest one. It's the dumbest one, dog. Stanley Kubrick and a whole crew of people in a soundstage. in LA somewhere, fucking fake that, and no one ever let that slip after 60 fucking years.

There's no way. They'll use it. People will be like, yeah, Stanley Kubrick, you know, they killed him because he made eyes wide shot, which exposed the Hollywood predator community or whatever. It's like, okay,

so they killed him because of that, but the government never thought to kill him for being involved in the moon landing. They let him live for all these years and coordinated it with all the people that were at Cape Canaver. and like dog like you dude i could tell you you can't trust a thousand people to keep something pointless a secret something pointless that it don't even matter if they tell or not let alone

something this wild you'd have to kill er one of them dude a thousand yeah if you've got i think i don't know 10 yeah 10 people less than that probably i mean again there's a famous thing from somebody right is it fucking ben franklin or thomas jay i don't know who the fuck it was but three people can keep a secret of two of them are dead. Yeah, or whatever. Accurate. It's like, yeah, but anyway,

I mean, I completely agree. I think the actually true column is perhaps the most interesting one. So sounds reasonable and is actually true. What are you guys? Sounds reasonable and is actually true. Oh, dude, the fluoride in our waters turn the frogs guy, hummy.

Of course. They put mass government surveillance. Oh, yeah. Edward Snowden, NSA stuff. Yeah, of course. Right. It's a pretty big stretch, but is actually true. I'm sure you know about this. It's a little bit of a deep pool, but it's definitely something you would be familiar with. I feel like it's a historical thing. Is actually a stretch, but is true. Sounds like a big stretch, but is actually true. Israel sunk the Titanic. The business plot. Do you know about the business plot? I do, but you're going to have to refresh me.

All these like captains of industry back in the Gilded Age right at the end of the Gilded the days, like during the Great Depression, uh, legitimately put a plan together to overthrow the government of Franklin D. Roosevelt of FDR and install a

Smedley Butler. Jals, that wouldn't have worked just because of his name. Smidley. Um, Butler. Major General Smedley Butler. They were going to install him as the, uh, like the dictator of America. Was Smedley, was Smedley going to tie Eleanor to the train tracks.

Right. Well, dude, I mean, they, again, it's fucking Wall Street fat cats in the early 20th century, right at the end of the Gilded Age where you're talking like the Rockefeller, like, fucking all that tycoon shit, robber barons and stuff led into this. It's those people who wanted to install this guy's a dictator of a explicitly fascist government, right? Like, I mean, pretty fucking wild. Yeah.

Obviously, it didn't work out. And that's what, I mean, obviously it was. based on real shit too, satirizing real shit too, but that, you know, the plotline and I think the last season of the boys, yeah, all those government leaders got together and they're going to install the homeland, but that was like, I think, at least partially based on this in real life. It's also called the Wall Street Putsch, punch. Yeah, that's a good one. The first season of, the first or second season of Pennyworth was essentially that, but in

London, which is, it's really fucking good. I don't know if they don't pay me to say this, but that show just keeps flying under the radar and nobody. cares or thinks about it, but it's fucking awesome. All right. Then there's sounds crackpot, but is actually true. I think they got a good, good answer here. Sounds correct.

The CIA killed Kennedy? Epstein Island. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, just the whole Epstein thing. Yeah. I mean, it is fucking wild. It's wild.

All of it together is wild. I publicly made fun of it for being clearly bullshit for a long time. And it's like, it's real. And then this one, I would argue that Epstein is wilder than this one, because I've used this one as an example before of stuff. It's like, yeah, is it wild? Yes. But it's not as wild as people act like it is, in my opinion. So the final one, bat shit sounds totally bat shit insane, but is actually true.

Well, you think they picked. Sounds bad shit insane, but is actually true. Let's see, something to do with Israel. No, it's something to do with the CIA. Oh, the CIA has masks that they can put on to make themselves look like different people. Okay, that, I mean, that is true. Yeah. They have, like, a staff of, like, Hollywood-level, like, prosthetics people, which that's pretty right.

I don't even think that they, I don't think that they even, I've seen interviews with those people on YouTube. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't think that that's, it's not hard to find. It's not a. conspiracy theory. It's not even a secret, I don't think. That's something I think they're kind of proud of. Project M.K. Ultra, right? Oh, yeah. Which, the Unabomber was famously part of it. And it's like, it was the CIA's attempt to learn how to control people's minds, right? And they used a bunch of different shit. They used LSD. They used shock therapy. They used hypnosis. They use all this stuff.

And basically, but I'm saying the reason I don't think, the reason I think Epstein stuff is wilder, than that is that like yeah that's fucked and that is wild and everything but in reality and it's i feel like it's so often the case where the government is involved the mk ultra stuff was way more like the men who stare at goats type shit yeah yeah it was like the manchurian candidate right do you know what i'm saying like they were trying to create the manchurian candidate of course but really they were just fucking dosing a bunch of people and you know making them bomb federal buildings. Underground rooms and stuff and fucking not really making much progress.

And then turning them out into the woods and expecting them not to bomb stuff later. Yeah, I'm a big Kaczynski apologist, as you know. Yes. Right. Well, dude, where he fucked up is like he didn't have to kill. The people he killed, I don't, that. He could have gone about that better. Yeah, he could have been Luigi if he just, if there weren't any innocent of

my stance and stuff. He had just bombed like the fucking head of the CIA or something, the guy that drugged him and shit and a couple of people like that. Yeah. If he had blown them up with bombs and then everybody found his manifesto and all this shit later, I think there'd be a lot of people today. Yeah. People probably be wearing his face on T-shirts and stuff, probably.

But he killed like college professors and shit, right? Yeah, I mean, you know, some of them were, I guess, assholes. But yeah, he ought not have done that. You know how they called him? I mean, I've definitely heard it before, but go, is his brother involved? His brother was involved, but it's, but the way that they were able to even get his brother, like, they didn't know who he was at all. So to get to his brother, they would have had to go this, we think it's Ted Kaczynski. Now let's go to his brother and see if we can form it was, uh, there's this guy and I can't remember his name, even though I've got a book that he wrote. He was an FBI profile or whatever, but he was like obsessed with the linguistics part of it and like really studying not only his manifesto, but like all the letters that he sent or whatever looking for, different ways to, basically this guy was such a good profile that he could read a sampling of your work and tell how old you were, what color you were, at what level you graduated of whatever.

And so anyways, he bulls it down to like, this guy probably went to MIT. He's probably this age. He was probably a professor. So they've already got this big pool of people. And the thing that gave Kaczynsi away was that he was reading a bunch of stuff from Kaczynski's, like his dissertations from college and he noticed that Kaczynski used the phrase to eat their cake and have it too, right? And a lot of people were like, oh, he got it wrong. And it's like, actually, no, he didn't. He's the only one that has it right. That is how the original phrase

went and people have switched it around. And then in the manifesto, that phrase was used exactly the same way. And it was so jarring that they're like that we've only seen this happen one time and it just happens to be one of these guys we were looking at. Boom, it's Ted Kaczynski. So him having to be Trey Crowder write about a phrase, even though everybody used it the other way is what got him called. Totally understand that. Relate to that very hard.

It's like, this is a funny sounding segue, but that's like on the most recent season of the traders, there's a, there's a guy on there who's like from Alabama and everything, and he's doing this whole kind of all shucks. thing right i'm just a country boy i don't know nothing yeah but he's actually really fucking slick uh and everybody's falling for it and he drops the he drops the act one time and nobody really noticed because everybody else was so pissed off too but it really hit for me to crack me up michael rapaport uh at the roundtable kept misusing the word commiserating right over and over again I'm talking about Rob.

He finally just like, he just could not take it. He could not sit there and allow him to keep misusing that word. And he finally just like, just pretty much completely dropped character. And he was like, that's not what that word means, by the way. And, you know, he had to like, he's like, you know, commiserating means like you're sympathizing with someone. You understand what because he was using it like connoisse. Conversing.

Conversing. Like, this guy's duplicitous. This guy's a conniving, commiserating creep. He was saying something like that. You know, I always, that's not how dude Michael Rappaport on that show, Shoo-Wing. I bet he's the worst.

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Back to the Unabomber. So, Hey, to combine the two, did you know that there's an off-Broadway play right now called the Tuna Bomber? No, I did not. Yeah, I've got to check it out. So I just don't want to just sort of gloss over us,

being like, yeah, Unabomber hits kind of. So, like. I was fine with it. I'll say it with my chest. Right. Well, okay, but he, so he said a lot of things. I'm just saying I feel bad for him. That's all.

And I feel like people remember, his whole thing was like the threat of modern technology, which he was like way ahead of the game. Bro, he was spitting, man. And the threat there, too, for the, or thereof to the environment, right? Like, we're killing the planet. Again, way ahead of the game on both of those things. But, you know, he thought. a lot of other

shit. Oh, he was a eugenicist too, I'm pretty sure. Yeah, right. Super racist, that type of stuff. Dude, if you swing it every ball,

you're going to strike out eventually, dog. You know what I mean? He killed a bunch of, like, basically, or bombed a bunch of, like, in my opinion, essentially almost random people.

Yeah. In addition to some that we're like, so it's like, you know, I'd say on the whole, Ted Kaczynski, don't hit. Sure. But he was a smart guy,

for sure, who, you know, again, was ahead of the guy. game on a couple of things. He had a couple of points. But a lot of it, yeah, the eugenicist, the racism. You're always going to lose points with me.

You know, is like, those are tough. No, it's really interesting because like the, when that manifesto first came out, some people in the government like to cherry pick it or whatever and was talking about like, see, this guy's a communist. This is how communist thinks. But then like later on in the thing, he completely dispels communism and leftism, And it's like, you didn't mention that part. Right. Right.

Yeah. It says at the end of his manifesto, Kaczynski predicted that with the rise of artificial intelligence, the mass of the population will become a useless burden on the system. And the elite would either keep them in a genetically manipulated state of subservience or eliminate them altogether. Yep. By the way, please go with B. Bro. Please eliminate me.

You know? Oh, yeah. Yeah, I think we're already pretty much there with the first one I felt with a manipulated state of subservience. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like this reality. Fast forward to be, yeah, I mean, there's no way to say Ted Kaczynski was a good person, but I'll just say this. Of all the serial killers, he's my favorite one. Like, he's the goat of serial killers to me.

Like, you know, you're already picking someone. He didn't want to just pretend that co-ed was his mom and cut her head off and have sex with it or whatever. Exactly. A lot of them, that's their motivation. Right. He had a moral code. It might not be cursed. Yeah.

And again, dude, again, like, he was treated unfairly by the fucking system. You know what I mean? Like, they did do all that shit to him. I'm not saying it justifies it. But as you said, you pump a dude full of psychedelics in a fucking basement, someone who's got a, what, 180 fucking IQ? I mean, that's going to have some consequences. And I bet you they're going to be mad at the system, you know? Right.

So this and this. here's the leftist part. This is the Wikipedia summary of it. He defined leftist as, quote, mainly socialist, collectivist, politically correct types, feminist, gay, disability activist, animal rights

activists, and the like. I had to be a disability activist. Right. Yeah, fuck, he hates ramps. Ramps are for pussies. Why, we got to waste all his taxpayer money on ramps. But anyway, he says it, He says he believed that overssocialization and feelings of inferiority are the primary drivers of leftism.

And he derided it as, quote, one of the most widespread manifestations of the craziness of our world. End quote. Kaczynski added that the type of movement he envisioned must be anti-leftist and refrain from collaboration with leftists as in his view, quote, leftism is in the long run inconsistent with wild nature, with human freedom, and with the elimination of modern technology. So that last part, I feel like I keep a misfire on that very last part, because all the tech bros and shit are driving us into the fucking,

you know, the futuristic tech dystopia are all like right aligned now. Right. If I don't even know what they are, they're like, well, transhumanist fucking microdosing weirdos and shit. But they at least buddied up to Donald Trump.

Some of them ran like a death cult. It's weird shit going on. Yeah. Yeah, I feel like Silicon Valley and like the Google people like that at first, much like Elon Musk was like, they were like leftist heroes, you know, in a way. Like they were,

I mean, yeah, definitely was. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know about left. But he, yeah,

he definitely hit for, I mean, Tesla. It was all progress. Yeah. I mean, Tesla and all his like saved the world shit he was on and stuff. Like dude,

all these people with Tesla's in California that now have a bumper sticker on them. Yeah. I got this before I knew or whatever like that type of. of thing. Like, yeah. Yeah, well, and it was also like Silicon Valley represented progress and stuff and like used to the people who were against tech were like the conservative people. You know what I mean? And yes. And it was progress and all that. All that shit. But then if you look at like all these Silicon Valley, they would be like, yeah, we donated so and so to John Kerry and blah, blah, blah. But then if you go back, you look at it's like they were donating to everybody.

They were hedging their fucking bets. And like to me, I now, I don't care. or who you donated to. I go with like what you're doing and what the the you know like what the consequences of what you're doing are and like all of them are, it seemed to be aligning themselves with fascists. So I kind of don't care how they felt about Beto O'Rourke in 2018, you know. Right. It does also note apparently that he, Kaczynski also criticized conservatives calling them fools who whine about the decay of traditional values and yet enthusiasm. support technological progress and economic growth. So one of the first enlightened centrist, Ted Kaczynski, I guess. A real Ken Bone. He was an narco-primitivist. So, you know, basically tear it all down, return to the woods, shit. Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, here's the thing. That ain't ever going to go. You know what I mean? No, no, all this stuff hits too hard. I'm trying to have air conditioning. To your house hits too hard. Air conditioning is too hard. But yeah, you're talking about how Silicon Valley and all that used to be associated with progress and was kind of generally left-lined.

And I was thinking it's related to something I've been thinking a lot about lately because the other day I was driving somewhere and I had my GPS out. And it just like occurred to me. You know, I was like, dude, this is fucking incredible. You know, and then I was further thinking that for a huge chunk of my like adolescence and everything up until like very. recently. There was all this technological progress and shit, and all of it was like rad. Yeah, so awesome. Like stuff would come, you know what I mean?

Like fucking, you know, the Xbox 360 was fucking awesome. The iPod was amazing. Manas. Might be the best one of the things you mentioned. Right. Smartphones. GP, free GPS on your phone and everything. Like that's crazy.

And all this shit was like improving people's lives at little. to no cost. It was wild. It was futuristic. And it was like, what a brave new world we're fucking, you know,

trekking towards. And then that is all just completely shifted on a fucking dime in the past five, 10 years or whatever. And now it seems like it's the opposite. Every new advancement, it's like, oh,

what the fuck is, how is this going to end up? And I don't know exactly what that, how that, I guess, look, once, is everything?

the corruption of money and greed and capitalism and stuff. 9-11. Yeah, but GPS and iPods and smartphones and all that shit was post-9-11. It was the 9-11 ripples. You know, it's all 9-11, dude. 9-11, all the way down. All the way down, brother. 9-11.

No, you're correct, man. Like, it really, it really did feel like that. Like, now when you think, now when you think about technology and probably for future generations until who knows, when we figure this out. Technology is going to have this scary, scary feeling to it and going to have this ominous, like, dystopian quality that they used to make fiction about,

but the reality was, like, actually, when we make new technology, things get better. Like, you know, even going back to the car, you know, like to, to us, the flying car is the thing, but in the 1800s,

one on the road was just as futuristic as the one in the air, you know, and that made people's lives better. Obviously, there's a couple people that didn't make their lives better, such as people who sold wagons for a living, you know, but you're always going to have that sort of cost.

But now the new technology doesn't just take one job away. It threatens to take all of them away. And, and even with that, dude, with me, the thing with that is that, in my opinion, would actually be totally fine.

Yeah, if they'd let us chill. If, right, if they would take all the wealth that supposedly would be generated by that. And instead of giving it to two dudes in fucking Silicon Valley or whatever, they had a universal basic income or whatever.

All the people that were displaced by this still get paid a salary, but don't have to work anymore. Now you can fucking grow a garden or do whatever the fuck you want. Back to the woods. If that was the plan, I'd be like, whatever, bring it all. That's fine. But we all know that is not at all how any of that is going to work. And that's what makes it so fucked.

Yeah. If it was on, if it was, we're headed towards like some Star Trek shit, you know, right. It's like they don't even have money. You just, you know what I mean? Like, right. No, everyone's just taken care of. You just do what you want to or whatever the fuck. Yeah, that'd be fine.

Thank you, AI and technology. But they're not going to do that. Yeah. When we were kids, we envisioned the future as the Jetsons. And now we're like, I think it's the Flintstones, actually. I think that's probably closer to where we're going. Shit, if we're lucky. There's a, there's a theory that the Flintstones actually,

isn't about prehistoric times and it's actually They live at the bottom? It's just the future. Of the Jetsons? Yeah, it's the future. Yeah. Right. But specifically it's because they were made dope by Hanne Barbera.

The Jetsons live in those at the top of those big poles above the cloud, right? Yeah. And then underneath the cloud on the bottom is the Flintstone. Yeah. And I've heard that. I mean, I don't, you know. Yeah. I don't know about all that.

It's an interesting idea. It is. And that Dino's not actually a dinosaur. he's just a bastardized dog after years of genetic mutation and inbreeding and shit like that. Yeah. I've seen a few movies sort of with that premise and stuff. I'm trying to think. Well, like the village is kind of that.

You've seen the village, right? Oh, yeah. M. Night Shyamalan. Scared the fuck out of me. Did it? It was, I was like a lot of people, because I was still like a teenager when that came out, and he was on such a heater. Yeah. And the marketing was like, I was like, you know,

And I liked the, I liked the twist just fine, but I didn't like that the monsters. And I get the, I get the conceit. The monsters are made up to keep people from leaving this fake town. Right. But I didn't like that they were just like

dudes in a suit or whatever. Yeah, for me at 15 years old. But there's also the Horizon series of video games on PlayStation, which are super awesome. I highly recommend. Everybody's like, it's so far post-apocalypse and everybody's like

people are like tribal again. They're like Indians. But it was a robot apocalypse. So there's all these old like there's robots stalking around all over the place but there's also like lasers and shit because of the robots.

But human being has been robot bombed back to the fucking primitive era basically. It's pretty fucking sweet. but yeah I think there's I think HG Wells the time machine

I'm pretty sure he does a few things in that book but one of them is the guy goes so far in the future that it's like basically that

it's primitive again and humans have mutated into something else some shit I don't remember yeah I can't remember the Guy Pearce movie that happened

and I can't remember of what they they're like more locks or something they're like yeah monster things I don't know

I like that movie pretty good it's all right i'd have to revisit it yeah guy pierce is my dog that was back when uh orlando jones was in stuff yeah did it ever occur to you at all when watching memento did you ever think anything about guy pierce's hair no i don't think so good or bad you remember his hair in that movie right it was blonde and stringy and kind of fight club clubby super blonde and like spiked up yeah that movie came out in the year 2000 i thought he looked all Yeah, I mean, I definitely didn't think he looked bad.

He's got all those tattoos all over him and that blonde hair. I thought it all worked, right? Yeah, and he's never looked like that again. Right, which is cool. And I know, look, this doesn't actually matter, but it had never occurred to me. You know, the movie came out when I was 14. I never once thought about it.

I don't even know if I knew that I didn't know anything about how making your hair be that way works. But like, it's essentially impossible for a dude with that condition. Right. to maintain that particular hair stuff. Because like nobody's hair just be like that. Like you got to keep your hair like that. Right. And he's losing his mind.

Right. He don't remember nothing about anything ever. So he's not going to remember like, oh, I got to get my roots today or whatever. Even if he looks in the mirror and his roots are showing up, he's not going to think like, oh, fuck. Then where does he find his hair bleach? Right. You've got to make a tattoo. Right.

Christopher Nolan's a fucking hack, man. That, that, that apparently was Guy Pearce's like this character decision. Guy Pearce was the one that was like, I think my hair should be like this. I think I should hit. Yeah, right. And Christopher Nolan was like, okay, that's fine. Whatever.

So he didn't write it into the script like that. But yeah, but it doesn't really make any actual sense. I just rewatch that movie like two nights ago. I've been thinking about rewatching it because I just watched that new Russell Crow movie that's essentially that. It's called sleeping. It's called Sleeping. dogs and it's oh it's yeah i mean and i like dude it's fucking russell crow and uh homie from

gladiator and uh and uh sons of anarchy with a scar on his face me you know what i'm talking about the irish smile yeah i know dude we follow each other on instagram and i know he he likes me i was about to say that he but my brain don't work i know yeah um anyways yeah russell crow comes out of retirement to solve this case that but he's going he has Alzheimer's he's he's getting Alzheimer's or whatever. And he comes out to solve this case and yada yada, I'm not going to say anything else. But I mean, if you, me saying it's a lot like Memento will make you go. Yeah, I think I know what happens.

But it's still a great movie. Dude, Memento's fucking awesome. Yeah, I just rewatched it and it was like it did, you know, hit for me pretty much just as hard as it ever did. I was still just as impressed by it. Like that, they totally get why Christopher Nolan became what it. It is kind of wild because it's like, in retrospect, it's pretty fucking different. than in a lot of ways,

because it's like, you know, it's a relatively small movie. Obviously, it's almost like an indie. It pretty much is. And like now he makes the biggest movies on earth. And he still puts,

you know, twisty shit in there and mind bendy stuff. He still fucks with that sort of thing. But it also is like, it's R-rated and seems like it. Like he started making big, and apparently he has said, he feels an almost obligation to make big,

huge tent pole movies because he can. Because he can. Because almost no one can. Right. He doesn't want those to die out. So he feels obligated to make him. And that's why he makes him PG-13 so the appeal can be wider. But yeah, there's a lot of, like, tough fucking language and shit memento.

And it's like, it's like, you know, gritty and fucking all that shit. But it's so good. And dude, Stephen Tobolowski. And he barely even talks at all. He doesn't hardly. Yeah. He has like a couple lines that it's almost like he's not miced. It's almost like an off cap.

You barely even hear him. Right. But also, dude. His stare into the abyss. But the lady that played his wife. in that movie. Yeah. I don't ever remember seeing her in nothing else.

She's out of this world in that fucking movie. The whole like Sammy, it's time for my shot. Yeah. Dude. Yeah, dude. Everybody came to bad. Brutal. And then all the multiple twist at the end of it,

say, those spoilers for a 25 year old movie, but it's like, Sammy, wasn't Sammy, it was him. He did that. He killed his own wife, basically. And now the John G is looking for her. He's killed a ton of them. Right. This crooked cop is using him to eliminate drug dealers and shit that he's stealing all the money from by convincing him.

He's there, his wife's killer, and it's all that shit all comes together. And it, obviously, the structure of it. It's just like, it's just nuts. Like, it's got to be one of the best scripts of the past 30 years. I feel like, like, it's crazy, especially when you consider how, again, the fucking thing is backwards. Yeah, right. And forwards at the same time. And all that comes together in a way that works and that you can follow.

it's nuts, dude. It ain't no wonder Christopher Nolan became what he did. And I'm also super glad that, like, as you mentioned, like, his first several movies, like, the, the, the, um, what they all had to have a twist and all the twists were great. But I'm sort of glad that he was like, yeah, I don't have to do that anymore. Because, like, we saw what, M. Night Shyam what happened to M. Night Shyamalan where it's like, I feel like you are, you're sort of crippled by that. You know what I mean? Like, you can't just make a good movie. You've got to have a twist.

and there's only so many fucking twists. You know what I mean? And of course, maybe Nolan's, oh my God, I've done too many, was Tenet. I'll never know. You know. Yeah. Yeah. Dead hit.

Does hit. I'm not, I'll say this quickly and then we'll leave. I've just glazed him so hard. I'm worried too. So far, the Odyssey stuff, it ain't really doing it for me. I'm not feeling hyped by it. And yet, you know, that don't. that don't necessarily mean anything.

But I remember like trailers for like Inception, for example, or even Tenet, which I ended up not even liking Tenet, but like the marketing materials for it. I'm like, this is going to be fucking right. I don't really get none of that from the Odyssey stuff so far. And it's not even all the anachronisms and stuff that people have pointed out, whatever. It just looks like it don't look as impressive as I feel like it should look. It should be way brighter and more color and grander and shit. It should feel huge.

and I feel like it does it. And I think that might be because of how married he is to not fucking with CGI. Yeah. You know, and I get that. But also, it feels weirdly modern. And one of the new trailers says,

like, my dad's coming home. And it's like, bro, that ain't how you talk in a historical epic. What is that? And when fucking Matt Damon's about to lead a big charge and he literally goes, let's go.

I know. That's what he says. And it's like, dude, what? I know. Fucking, ain't you ever seen Gladdy out of your ground?

The let's go a vacation of this. fucking world. And dude, listen, I don't give a fuck about... I'm still going to say the fuck out of it. Dude, I'm opening day, dog. Yeah, right. It's Matt Damon and Chris Nolan. I owe them that much. I really do. I owe them that much. They're allowed

to stink one on me. But like, and I don't give a fuck about the race swapping and all that. As long as you tell a good story, that's fine, but one thing, and it's going to sound like when I say it, it's like you have a problem with that race, no, I have a problem with Travis fucking Scott. It has nothing to do with... I don't mind if you have a black or

I mean, fuck, they had that in, oh, brother, where art thou? You know what I mean? That was already that. But like it being Travis Scott, like, no. No, dog. No, God. Imagine if DMX had lived and they let him do it, though. Yeah, that would have been fire.

That would have been fucking fire. Well, Travis Scott also in particular has the other baggage. That's what I'm saying. Astro world. It's not just about why you like this music or whatever else. It's like you couldn't have fucking ASAP Rocky or whatever. Like somebody that didn't arguably through negligence, get people killed at a concert or whatever, allegedly. But yeah, it's fucking, I don't get it.

But anyway, we'll see it. Yeah, we'll see it. And y'all should see me, by the way, on the road. I'll be on the West Coast this month, San Francisco, Portland, Seattle. Then after that, there's Florida, Wilmington, Spartanburg, a whole bunch of other places at traycrowder. com. Come save me, please. I'm at Corey writes for you.com.

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You got seven and not across the top. It's six and eleven across the side. So the top square is six, seven, and it's a gen alpha kid. right and then the top right square is six nine and it's that wrapper to cost you six nine then the bottom left square is 711 and the bottom right square 911 is a picture of former president george w bush that's utterly fantastic pretty fire all right that's it thank you guys for listening