wellRED podcast - The Katy Perry/Ruby Rose/Willie Nelson Conversation From White Men U Didnt Ask For!

Episode Date: April 15, 2026

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I got a impression that I just thought of. Can I run it by you? Mm-hmm. So earlier I was thinking about how most, basically everything that we think of as sweet and innocent actually started out as like very racist. I know that we've talked about this, like old nursery rhymes and stuff like that. And I was thinking about the one, you know, any, many, mony mo. Yes. Yeah, I'm aware of the origin of that one.

Right. Well, I was thinking. It wasn't the tagger that they were. kitchen by the tool. No, it wasn't a taker at all. But while I was thinking about that, I was like, well, we need to, like, bring them back and, you know, like, definitely not reclaim them.

Definitely not say the old word. But I'm saying, like, if I wanted to, you know, make them more whimsical, like I was working on an impression of, this is Jack Black. All right. And again, if this sucks, just tell me and I'll cut it. But this is Jack Black doing any money money mo. Is that any, meanie mo,

catch a tiger by the toe. I mean, no, that hits. Does that sound like Jack Black? It does, yeah. Okay. Which is good. That's impressive. And I didn't know I could do that.

I was just a little high earlier, and I was just singing Eni Mini Moni Mo out loud the way we know it, and in my head the way it used to. be, you know. Sure. And I was like, I just started doing that. And I was like, can I do Jack Black a little bit? A little bit.

Hey, everybody, sorry if Trey just dropped off there and we're in the middle of something. There was a little technical difficulties. We're just, by the way, Drew, and this actually leads me into something organic I wanted to talk about. Because you'd think after all this time, we'd have our shit together. Like, this, it's almost been 10 years since the tour started and we wrote the goddamn. Actually, the tour was starting around now in 2016, and then the book came in June. And it's just occurring to me that, like, if we're going to do any type of, like,

live stream to celebrate it or special podcast episode, like, we are the ones that have to decide to do that. You know what I mean? Like, sometimes you forget, like, the cavalry's not coming. You know what I mean? And, like, we're just all in this together. It's like the other side of the indie coin is it's like you, and then like with bands that I fuck with that's like the greater better comp right it's like they have dude music inspires an insane type of fandom yeah that it's in this sweet spot where they're not

scary like right I mean and they'll just be like hey your 10 year anniversary's coming up and we're going to throw a party or whatever you know right I don't know Trey before you got to well actually well the time is crazy here as I'm going to have to edit it later but Me and Drew were talking about, it's just 10 years since we started. Like, the tour was beginning to form in April of 2016. And here we are 10 years later. And, like, it was just occurring to me that like, oh, yeah, if we're going to do any type of, like, live stream or like some sort of video or something,

we have to meet you and Drew actually have to decide that and do it. You know what I mean? Like, there's not. Which means we're not going to do. obviously not no obviously not no way in hell are we going to do that yeah I'm not going to do it

no I'll do it let's do it I'll do it let's do a live shoot trade turn your mic down because we're getting feedback in your real out anyway we should do a live stream we could do that I mean we could just all pick a hell it could be at the same goddamn we can just do an anniversary episode and we didn't have to do a live stream we can just do a thing

we're already going to do and just make it slightly thematic. Yeah, I think we could live stream it, though. Like, why not? Like, on a Wednesday night or something. You know what I mean? Like, do a live stream episode. It's the same hour of our week.

It's the same thing. We're just pushing it tonight. We're doing it live. And then we could take questions from everybody. Y'all are going to have to hold us accountable. I'm going to be with Gray soon, but it's actually in like almost six weeks. Yeah, I mean, it's whatever. Who cares?

We'll just wait till 20. We'll just wait until 20. Yeah, that's better for me anyway. 20. Oh, God. Which, oh, shit, I'm just now realizing that Well Red started on my 10-year high school reunion, which means this year's my fucking 20th. Oh, fuck my ass.

And you just turned 40. Boy, we all just turning corners and not hitting. Low on grease. Was it 40? I knew it was your birthday recently. I didn't know if he wanted to talk about it or not. I mean, you know, same as it. it's been. I've, you know, maligned publicly on here many, many times just the inexorable

march of time and I don't have for me and fucking all that. Nothing, none of that changed. I mean, don't, you know, I'm going to miss that three, obviously. It does feel like there's a big difference between 39 and 40, even though. Don't you think you have more authority now, though? No. You're Mike Gundy. You're in your Gundy year. Yeah, I know, yeah, I'm a man. I'm 40. I know. You got to, you have to live. I haven't sent that video. to anybody yet. This year you have to live every day like you're Mike Gundy. Mm-hmm.

You've already got the mustache. You've got to start the mullet. You'd get the mullet going. You'd make a great mullet. He just was a sick mullet, dude. Sick mullet. So the guy and this, I mean, this makes sense because we were all, we were all also roughly that age.

I mean, I was in high school even so he's older, but like the kid that Mike Gundy was fervently defending in that famous viral clip or whatever, he himself is now, he's, well, he's past 40 now. Because like I said, I was, that kid was a college student. That happened when I was in high school.

So he's got to be two or three years older than me. So that dude is, he's 42, 43 now probably. Something like that. Pretty wild. Don't hit. No, it don't hit. Drew,

now that you're here, I was trying to talk about this a trailer, but his computer blew up. I was thinking about that Willie Nelson song that I heard for the first time him and Orville Peck did it together. and it's about cowboys are frequently fond of each other or whatever. And I'm like, as soon as I see the title, I'm like, I know what this is,

and that's awesome, you know, Orville Peck and him are doing this. And then I find out that it was originally actually just a Willie song that somehow came out under my radar and is just straight up Willie Nelson doing a brokeback mountain song, and that's fucking wild. And on that note, I started thinking about other songs that if they were gay, would hit for me and I wrote this one for you guys. I want to see what you think. It's completely original.

Baby, we ain't got no place to go. I hope you understand. I've been thinking about this all day long. Sucking on your big old ding dong. Yeah. Baby, I just know it's big and black. I want it in my butt. Oh, yeah.

What do you think about that? Chart topper. Buddy, I'm fully in. This is a bit Andy and I have been doing on and on. I was lightly inspired by one of your videos. Me and Andy have been doing this as a bit on and off for years now, which is now that's what I call Gay Country Volume 2. And we've already got Whiskey Winners and Gold.

Whiskey Winners and Gold. My favorite one that I can remember right now, let me see if I can remember the two best lines. Why'd you come in here looking like that? Pants so tight I can see. ass crack. Dix's about as big as a baseball bat.

Tell me why'd you come in. You're looking like that. Dix's about as big as a baseball bat is something I'm really gruddles. I'm so fucking glad that I took the extra five minutes before we were about to record to put upload that shit.

Because that was, I did not know you had one locked and loaded. That's amazing. That's the only one I can remember. I mean, me and he'll just sing 90s country song. I mean, you know what? It was probably subconsciously inspired by whiskey weaners and butts, but, like, we will just start, like, we'll just across the house, you know what I mean?

And country is the funniest. But I do. Country is the funniest, but I do it with other stuff too. Any given song, if I get it stuck in my head or whatever, I'll inevitably in my head turn it into some version of something gay. Yeah. Yeah. Me and Robbie's big one was, I chime in with a, haven't you people ever heard of?

Fucking my goddamn. Like that's so much fun. That's just fun to think and say. Andy has a thing where hers is always like yearning. Yeah. Fuck my butt. Yeah. Well, it's not even fuck.

It's just like, God, I wish I could think. There's one she did of Riba recently. It wasn't recently. It's probably been three years. I don't even think we had a kid yet. But she did one with a Riba song. It was like, I was like, oh, that was good. You know what I mean?

It wasn't just like about sucking. Wieners and fucking butts. It was just like, why won't you love me, my loins yarn for you? She'll make them lesbian. That's why it's not. I said,

it just sounds like she's writing a whole new song. You know, it's a different thing. It's fine. Well, I'm going to say this before we move on too far.

That's a cover that Willie did. That song was written in like the 80s. And, you said it came in 2006. Is that what you said earlier? I looked at a, because I remembered, but I couldn't remember the dates.

Willie did it around broke back time. I was about yeah, because this is when broke back came out. But what's funny about that to me is also, that's around the same time

Willie was doing the Toby Keith shit too. So it's funny that like, like, people were turning, you know, and bro, sure,

picking a little bit there. He's like, I also got this gay shit if you guys like that. And right, no, we're going to go, beer for my men,

beer for my horses. Well, I think you can look at Willie through two lenses. You can look at them as just like a total, horse's not the right. where because his song,

songsmanship and his craftsmanship's like so undeniably great and his voice is timeless. But like, you can look at him as like, yeah, dude, he's going to do whiskey for my men and he's going to do the gay cowboy song because like he's trying to get paid. He contains multitudes. Yeah, I mean, this is the man famous for doing a festival just to pay his taxes, you know, but at the same time.

Or you could look at him like, yeah, the dude likes Toby Keith. He likes gay people. And he said, if I'm going to do a song with Toby. Keith. I wanted everyone to know I also like gay people. But I also want everyone to know I'll still fuck with a cowboy, Toby Keith. You know what I'm saying? Do you mean a guy who smokes a pound of weed a day says yes a lot? That's great. That's probably really it. Him and Snoop Dog have like a similar thing of like, you.

Very much. I mean, they're hit for each other. You're so talented. You're smoking pot. But sometimes you could, like if you wanted to really take a hard stance on either side, you can be like, fuck that guy. Right. But if you're being honest with yourself, you're like, he ain't ever really changed much. He's always said yes to the check.

Like, anyway. No, you're 100% right. That being said, you know, Willie and Snoop Dog for life for show. Like,

and that's kind of the whole deal. Sticking sort of in the world of music. I don't know if I wanted to. Lay down under in my boyfriend's booty. Sorry. I just started out. Go ahead, it gets hotter than a two.

By the way, Trey, we've already done the ad. I'm just saying this to save you from embarrassment later when you go. Oh, we got to take Bray. Okay. I don't know if y'all wanted to comment, take a minute to comment on the most, you know, important cultural issue of this moment in time, which is the Katie Perry Ruby Rose drama or whatever. Right, right. Corey had said as white men podcasters, we're obligated to speak on. We sure are.

We sure are. I thought you were going to say Donald Trump being Jesus. and healing Jeffery. Exactly. Yeah, right. Well, that's why Ruby Rose is a plant. That's the misdirect. But no, no, but guys, I'm not even doing a thing here. What? You don't know? Well, it's been in the thread. I know you don't, you don't, you don't scroll back in the thread. I was late for work. Can I say it? Can I say the thing? First, she, Katie Perry is like, so, you know, she's dating Justin. I think this is how it came up, but then Corey can, I'll let you say the thing. But I think this is came up.

She's dating Justin Trudeau now. Black or white Justin Trudeau. Right. Currently white. White fratty, Justin Trudeau, in fact, which I guess maybe

a little redundant, but like, I get, is Coachella happening? It is. Okay. They, I think,

is upon us. I have an announcement, but go ahead. They went to Coachella, the two of them, together. And there was all these pictures of them.

So Justin Trudeau's got a backwards cap on, and he's like, you know, he looks like a frat bro at a festival, but he's 50-year-old former prime minister of Canada or whatever. So those pictures are getting posted. People are like, oh, it's so wild that they're dating or whatever else, but that had come up.

And then I think people are talking about that. And in the comments of one of those, Ruby Rose, that's her name, right? Ruby Rose. Yeah. One of the most aesthetically pleasing human beings that's ever lived. Like, she looks as good as a, like, if she was a man, she'd be the hottest man. and if she's a woman, she's the hottest woman.

She was, remember that? Related. Yeah, androgyny. Yeah. Related. Potentially, Ruby Rose is a they. Okay. Potentially.

Okay, right on. You can look that up if you want. I'm like 98% sure. Go ahead. Ruby Rose, well, Corey. Ruby Rose. If ever there was a they, it's them because they look like both but hit. So like, I.

And Ruby Rose, when people were talking about Katie Perry, Ruby Rose got in the comments and said, Hey, everybody just sold the, world knows this happened. Okay, so she said, what happened. This is what I'm going to tell you. What I'm not saying?

No, you're fine. She said that Ruby Rose said one time she was hanging out at a club and resting on her friend's lap to avoid, this is the important part, to specifically avoid Katie Perry. Like she's laying on her friend's lap, pretending to be asleep to avoid Katie Perry. Katie Perry then, allegedly walks up, sees this, squats over her, pulls her panties to the side, rubs her pussy on Ruby Rose's face, and then Ruby Rose stands up in shock

and projectile vomits all over Katie Perry. Did I leave out of detail? The amount of money I would pay to have seen that. Oh, my God. And not even in a jackoff way. That's, I feel like that's relevant, because this was said to have happened in a, you know, a packed nightclub, an Australian nightclub or whatever,

and you're so right. So much of the world feels that way, I feel like. So, you know, and we live in an era of cell phones, but also it's a nightclub. It just feels like they're all great footage. Where's the pussy? Yeah, where's the pussy vomit cut? Yeah. We need to see it.

And I get, I don't know anything much about Ruby Rose. That's a one thing to make up. Let me say that. I remember Ruby Rose from oranges and new black and all that and the Magnum Open. the Meg. But, so I've looked it up, according to Google A. Idra, Ruby Rose goes by she, her. But she is like gender fluid and gender queer and all that stuff, too, I guess.

I knew that apparently she's one of, like, the most legendary lesbian thirst traps of all time. It has to be. She's unbelievable. So, but anyway. I'm obsessed. I know that, but I didn't know this about her. But according to Reddit and stuff, she's got like a track record of, of, saying real wild shit.

Yeah. So like. Like Terrence Howard wild shit or Kanye wild shit. I think it's like this weird. I think it's like this weird. Actually, no, she's in her own world, dude. Yeah. Yeah, I'd say it's this, the type of, you know, like Katie Perry fucking snail trailed her pussy on my face of the nightclub and I threw up inside of it type of wild shit.

Well, I don't know you classify that. But you had the inside of it? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That would be hard to fall. I'm not embarrassed about the amount of money. The logistics of the whole thing are weird.

Yes, it's. They are. I mean, she, Ruby Rose Plains should have been laying in another person's lap. What is that person doing? Right. The whole time this is happening. Like, and then again, like, also where is that person?

She dead now? Like, you know, it could be corroborated, you'd think. I'd write a book about that one thing. thing that happened. All right. Could I just say this, though? I've been dying to get this one off. This is a, God, this is probably pre-COVID.

If not, it's right out, probably pre-COVID. Met a gal in L.A. I don't remember where. Maybe just in Venice. Like, maybe at a show, I don't know. I know Andy met her too. And long story short, at some point I was following this gal on Snapchat. And I mean, like, three years it passed.

and then on her Snapchat, and she is as far as I know, not an adult performer. On her Snapchat, I 100% watched her eat Adriana Chetch's pussy in a nightclub. What? Now, Corey pokes it up because he knows who that is.

Now, obviously, this is potentially a nightclub that has a VIP section that Pussies get at. But the reason I'm very, bringing it up is I, for two weeks at least after that, searched Adriana Chetchich various versions of her name and whatever to see someone else post this on Reddit.

And I never found any version of it. So it is possible to get something like that done in public, I suppose. When this is before all that. Because she's not as famous as these two. I recognize that. but Adriana Chetich is pretty big. Dude, I know, I mean, yeah. And people would feel less weird about sharing it because there's...

Right. That implication. ...that implication. ...of her doing that. People who don't know this is a porn star. Porn star, yeah. One of the most famous of all time. Goaded.

I just, it is possible. I will say, though, Katie Perry being way more famous than her makes me still... Now, this was when they were 20... This is when they were 22, though, so, like, Snapchat and that stuff wasn't as big of prevalence. So, like, I'm correct. No, it wasn't. That doesn't make any sense.

They're not even the same age. That can't be right. Okay. Or maybe they are, but one got famous way earlier than the other one. That is definitely true. Katie Perry got famous. Because they're both 40. Yeah.

And the claim is that this did happen, yeah, like almost 20 years ago. I think we left that part out. I guess that's an important detail. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Yeah.

But, um... Actually, that's a huge detail. She's just now speaking up about it, years later. I'm not saying that doesn't mean it didn't happen, but that was part of it that she said, like, it's taking me that, oh my God, actually, this is the part that's going to be the biggest can of worms. She then said, it's taken me this long to speak up about it, and I kind of feel like woman on woman's sexual assault is actually harder to speak up about than man on woman's sexual assault. Then she said some version of like, I don't know if that's true. That's just how I feel.

Blah, blah, blah, blah. And like, I'm reading that. going, okay, well, I mean, you're obviously right to feel that way, especially if all this happened. And I've just never had to fucking think about that before. That's a new thought to have. You know what I mean? I mean, I get that because it's like, well, I mean, we've been, we've been pretty cavalier about the way we've been talking about it.

And we're all, we're three dudes. Right. I get the implication. Just like when a teenage boy fucks his teacher, nobody cares. Right. It's when women, if it's women a women thing, a lot of the response. is going to be, you know, the South Park app, you know, nice or whatever. Right.

Yeah. But Drew, I'd pay a lot of money to see a clip of that. But I just, to be fair, I'm mostly into vomiting. Now, that's true. Yeah. I thought I was about to defend you. But I admitted that it was a little of the other. Yeah, I just, but to me, it's just a, I mean, that's a, it's just a wild.

It's a moral conundrum. It's like I said, the logistics of it to me, you're, you can't put. You can't put. Like, I don't, that's, you know what it is. even a I don't doubt it or I do doubt it question. I've just been curious mostly the whole time or no, not since I found out the age time. I don't think Ruby Rose was Ruby Rose then. No. I mean is I don't think anybody knew. So like, do we know how she said to hide from Katie Perry? That's right. We know why she was hiding from Katie Perry, how they met what the background here is.

Again, this has no bearing on whether or not it's true. I just now want to know more. No, me too, now that you're saying it like that. I think everybody wants to know more detail. I think as men, it's hard for us to fathom being like, ooh, gross, Katie Perry's pussy. But, like, you know, if you're a woman, you don't want to have a pussy rubbed on your head. There's definitely certain, like, when she was in space. Yeah, but I'm just saying, like, you can't, yeah, right, but you can't be rubbing, you can't just go out rubbing your pussy on people's face.

No. I mean, but I thought about it. But at her point, I get that a hot chick might think she can. Yeah, right, right. Yes, okay, yeah, sure. And, but you can't. How do you get over the, like, she'd have to be, okay, imagine a lady. Well, you can, a lady sitting down normally the way you sit.

And Ruby Rose has her head in this lady's lap and her head is facing up and they're on some kind of bench or something, I imagine. Like, the physicality of straddling the face. Katie Perry's 5-8. With your vagina pulled out, again, while another person is just sitting there or whatever, it's a bit of a twistery situation in my opinion. You could brilop at it. You could brilopat it, pubic bone. And the other person, like, you could put the fupa. Right.

And the person who, assuming that, would describe it as this bitch rubber pussy on my face, when in fact it was just. You see what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like her pussy area. Yeah, the puca of the fuppa. Or you could just squat over a motherfucker, Tray. I mean, you'd have to straddle the other person's leg as well. I got to see this.

I want this Netflix document like... Look, look, look, look. 30 for 30? This is the bench. 40 for squirty. 30 for squirty. This is the bench, my arm. And here's the lap lady.

She's sitting like this. And I'm running out of limbs here. And I'm saddled them legs. But Ruby Rose's body is here if her head is laying here. So what you're putting your knee on her stomach? Like her head's a little raised because it's up on the leg. And then you just kind of, I mean, you know, dude. It's like a, you can get it.

You can get her ear at least. Yeah. But, right. I don't know. We're going to need a pussy sitting next part in here. You kind of, if you guys are, if we're running out of gas on this subject, you made me think of something that I had thought about bringing up before earlier when you were talking about Adriana Chetchik and it's not going at all where you think it's going. I fully believe everything about that, but you said you've tried so hard you can't find it. It's just disappeared now.

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about this old Amazon show. He kind of convinced me of it. Hatriot, right, which I've never seen. I'm aware of it. I know it's supposed to be good. But in my head, here's the reason I never watched that. I started to watch that show. And this is what I told them. I started to watch that show when it first came out and I heard it was good. And I was like, and y'all know that show starts with that scene of that little boy, that like five year old boy who has watched Mary Poppins and he goes up on the roof with an umbrella and tries to fly like Mary Poppins and a small child jumps off the roof of a building thinking he's going to fly. And I was like, and my kids were little at that time and I just can't fuck with shit like that. So I just turned that show off and said, fuck it. And Corey Mark were both. like that 100% does not happen in the show. They do push a Chinese guy in front of a bus in the first episode, which I don't think it's that. But you explain that and that meant that I think I've seen that. And then I, so then I was like, well, fuck, what was that?

Because that ever since Patriot came out like, I don't know, 10, 11 years ago or something. Yeah. And that whole time in my head, that has been that show. But they both know, they've actually watched it. And they were like, no, I promise you, that's not in that show. So then I was like, well, fuck, what is that in? So then I started Googling it every way you could think to Google it. And I, I mean, came up with nothing.

And as far as I could tell, that scene does not exist in media, like, anywhere, as far as I can tell. Maybe somebody listening will save me and tell me what it was. But, like, I remember it in my head, like, vividly. I described it in the thread, like, aesthetically and everything. Is it a black, black, like parasol type? Yeah. It's very Britishy in my mind. It's like a dour

West Anderson sort of aesthetic. I bet you saw something. Not quite that. And it's fucking up your description. I have one of these. I think Tray's a creative genius and he invented that scene. And the reason I think I've seen it is because it's like, yeah, why hasn't anybody done that?

It would be good. It's like, again, it's like, there's no dialogue. It's all silent. You just see this little kid, this little Britishy looking kid who's in this like. SUD on his face. Yeah.

Now, he's like a more. at least middle class type British, like a kid like that, but he's like, you see him doing all this cute little kid shit. He's like going around, he's putting on his little shoes, little shoe buckles and stuff or whatever,

and he's getting his umbrella. And it's all like, it's like precocious and straight, sweet, but also like I said, kind of whimsical. And then it takes this really dark turn when you realize what he's doing is he's trying to fly like

Mary Poppins and he jumps off a fucking roof. And again, in my mind, I saw that and I was like, nope, and I turned it off. I was like, that's too fucked up.

Okay. But I don't think that is real. So the first time you said it, this computer shows me my text. I got a text. In my defense, it was like sad and weird. It's fine. But I don't want to talk about it. So this is the first time I've really heard you say it.

That does sound familiar to me. But it also, but it sounds also like, it sounds like a general thing for a few different scenes. Like I bet you've seen some version of that multiple times of just like we show you. a kid doing something sweet and then you're not prepared for the fact that it's about to be you know dark or whatever um i have this one go ahead i have one from a scary movie or a scary series i don't know which one where this dude's friends

blindfolded him and then threw him in some sort of vat of acid to see what would happen to him and the part that got to me was him and he was he didn't get all melted and shit and fucking yeah yeah immediately screaming They're like, damn, I thought he'd turn into the Joker. He didn't turn to the Joker at all. And I didn't think that about it either. Who trusted him.

He was like, what are I going to be blind-coated? And they were like, come on, you know. And I can't find anything like that anywhere. I think that you saw something similar, maybe on a different show, and your brain is just like conflating things. And that's just how that goes, dude. It would be metal. Yeah, probably.

I know, but it was wild to me. Like I said, it's pretty vivid. and it doesn't, that exact thing, as I described it, as far as I can tell, does not, because I spent a lot of time Googling many different iterations of descriptions of that and couldn't find nothing. Are you telling me that I didn't see her get her pussy yet on Snapchat? Not see, I don't know.

I'll preface this by saying, I don't want you to get upset by this because I'm not accusing you of this. But it's what made you think of, Amelia was hilarious. I had a thing that didn't happen. Yeah. Yes. But it's what we think of it.

while right as you started and I didn't even defensive yet because I didn't pick up on what was happening I figured out that was awesome that was a fucking slow burn man that was like a Stephen Tom Ranch go I bet they were at a nightclub

at the adult video news awards surrounded by porn stars who don't care A and B have like an unspoken code of like we're not going to share this other people's content, dog.

Right. Yeah, yeah. Well, you know, that's the group of people who would see that and go, yeah, I'm not putting that out. So going back to KDP, the fact that she's saying it happened before she got famous, if they weren't surrounded by famous people, there should have been a video of it, dude. Yeah, it might not be the best. If they weren't around about famous and famous adjacent people, maybe they just know nothing. Maybe it's like a code, dude.

I mean, how'd they keep raping children kind of halfway a secret for 30 years? I was just about to bring up. There is that video, I guess, of, is it Justin Bieber and Odell Beckham Jr.? Is that what I'm talking about? What? Man, I hope that's right. She's not, no, no, no. Is this another Mary Poppins fucking dream that you had?

No, no, this is, but I'll say it. See, you don't even know what I'm talking about it. Most people don't. This you like can find. And it's not, there's nothing explicit. It just looks like really suspect and weird. Like, uh, but my point though is that. What about O.J.

jiggling that little boy's booty when the fucking NASCAR was, that was Michael Jordan. Not O.J. Simpson, the murderer. Did I say O.J Simpson? You just said OJ. Yeah. What about OJ? I meant MJ.

Uh, yeah. That was weird in a past. away. Yeah, I know, but it went away real quick. Wait, but tell me about this, Tray. So, this is so funny. I googled it in the top. There's a headline that's on IMDB.

I don't know if they do fucking, but it says, alarming video of Justin Bieber with Odell Beckham Jr. In a Party is just heartbreaking to watch for Candice Owens amid Diddy Scandal. But it is, it was, it's Diddy. That's what it was. It's at a Diddy Party. Justin Bieber and Odell Beckham Jr. are both at a ditty party, and there's a video of it.

And again, you don't see anything happen, but it looks like. It's like, you see two people, like, walk out of the same bathroom at some, you know, and you're like, you got to just went there and fuck, didn't you? You know what I mean? Like that. Wait a minute. Well, yeah. But is Bieber?

You could see people and be like, y'all just fucked. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, Bieber would have been a grown-up when Odell Beckham was hitting, wouldn't he? I'm, I don't, I do not know. Welcome to Wild. I thought when I brought this up I thought both the y'all would be like yeah dude that's wild right but I thought you would just know

what I was talking about this has got to be one of the otter listening experiences right it's just three because we started off by like yeah we've been doing this a long time we're getting older and then it's just us being pap-hauls about our memory just like no that happened sure it did you remember when it comes to sexual assault related or thematic

dude this is weird so first of all this is not that for me because I never I never actually watched it because I didn't want to. I've just remembered seeing it come up a lot. And so like, you know, on Reddit and shit. But like, I'm now Googling it and it's like I'm seeing references to it and stuff, but it's kind of like what Drew was saying. Because my whole point was going to be like, this is a wild ass video,

but it's out there. You can find it. But, I mean, you can't, though. You can't really find it. They'd be getting them scrub now, man. Yeah, right. It took them about three years for how to do that, but they've got it down.

That's a terrifying thought. I mean, you know, I guess good if you're just a chick whose tities came out on girls gone wild. Good for you. You got that scrubbed. I'm happy for you. You didn't be able to get that scrubbed because you don't have the clout and the money, dude.

No, no, no, I understand that. No, no, no, I understand that. All I'm saying is, like, I could see there being versions of, like, I'm glad that got taken down for this person's thing. But it's a slippery slope of like, but once, we start being able to do that, then we can scrub it from everything. You know what I'm saying?

Mm-hmm. Like, I don't know. Like, that's like, yeah, there's some people, it's like, oh, man, it's going to ruin her life. I hope they, but then I'm like, yeah, but it'll also save Prince Andrews, so fuck that, you know. I'm watching this show right now called The Capture that's all about, like, government-assisted, they call it correction, where they're using, like, face mapping to, and their whole deal on it in this show, at least, which I'm sure is based on at least something that's semi-real is they're like we're not planting false evidence we're just creating evidence

where we didn't have any evidence of it like we know that it happened we just have to make you see that it happened and it justifies it because these are fucking terrorists I'm aware of that I agree with you right this is a fictional show you're watching yeah yeah yeah it's called the capture

Ron Perlman's in it yeah Ron Perlman's in this motherfucker premise of it is these are good guys who make evidence but it's a good thing No, no, no, no, no, no, I'm not saying, no, it's the government. I'm telling, I'm telling you the governments, uh, the governments in this shows, that's what they're like, uh, excuses. That's what there's, that's their PR question.

But they're not the good guys, though. No, to some people, like, to, you know what I'm saying? But that's not, none of that is my point. My point is like, that technology is fucking, a hundred percent available. And like, that shit just scares the fuck out of me. Because I think this show came out like five years ago. we've made so many leaps in generative AI since then and like it sucks to watch a TV show. Like I know we watch a lot of TV to be like, this is so real.

The gritty realism, that's awesome. But watching that, I got done with it, thought it was well executed, but like I wanted to blow my fucking brains out. You know what I mean? Yeah, I'm reading about it. They're definitely cast as the bad guys. They, okay, I don't want to spoil it for anybody. but they are but then like you follow this protagonist girl who's trying to take them down the whole time

and then the goddamn season finale reveal is her being like I won't end because she sees the merit of it like she's what I'm I didn't want to say but show's been out for a while but like they are the bad guys but then you think that still sounds like they're the bad guys and they're showing you how they

there's no such thing as a good cop that's what I'm that's my new theory on it sure That's fine. You're the one instead of it, not me, but I, but I, but you convince me of it because I'm like, I don't know, dude. Like they're towards the end. This, I don't know. This, like Chris Nolan with the Patriot Act, you know, where it's like with the Batman.

If you really need it, it hits. But obviously, you know, only if you really need it. Yeah, the Batman thing, the opus or whatever. Yeah. Right. You know, yeah, again, Lucius Fox is like, this is bad. And at the end, he's like, yeah, destroy it. But it's like, but if we really need it, though, then.

And you can do it. And it's like, I told you all before about a movie I saw with fucking Michael Sheen in it, where he's like a domestic terrorist. And basically they torture and murder his wife and child in front of him to get him to tell them where the bomb is. And the movie's like, sometimes you got to do what you got to do, you know. Right. It's fucking weird. But anyway, it kind of sounds like that, but I've never seen it.

Yeah, I mean, that's how a lot of people feel about the A bomb. You know what I mean? Like, that's clearly how we all feel about the A bomb. Like, no, you should be able to have it. if you hit, you know what I mean? But like, because it, well, take it away from everybody who don't hit. Who decides who hits? We do, of course.

We do. We decide who hits. Yeah. Don't hit. Does you guys know that, does you know that the original version of all cops or bastard was a, Bastards was a French slogan and it actually translates to all cops are bastardized, which is subtle, but actually does in fact change the meaning quite a bit. If you think about that show you were just referencing where the allegation is not that that lady's a bastard by being a cop, the allegation is that if she will become bastardized, if she remains a cop, and I'm just saying it sounds like that's what happened to her.

Did you all three seasons? No, I haven't. And I only brought it up for the first part of it. I didn't mean to spoil it for anybody. I'll put it tag in here. No, I haven't. I didn't even bring it up for at the time any moral conundrum. It was just literally scaring me that I know this type of show.

is possible and can exist. And like, even though we think about it with AI and stuff, like watching a full season of what it would actually look like in the city of London if it took, you know, started taking place, it's fucking bugged me out, man, didn't hit, don't like it. Can't take it, brother. It's not good. No, it's real bad.

It's real bad. Well, here's a phone one. Here's an announcement since it's festival season. I just found out the day and it's wild because you know how these things go like you pitch a thing and then whatever whatever and it's not a huge deal but it is going to be fun if anyone's going to be at Bonaroo

I am going to do something called Wook Court on Saturday Is fish there? Huh? Is fish there this year? I do not think fish is there. Isn't aren't Wooks?

Aren't they fish fans? Or isn't that how that started? I don't know that's how it started. Now Wooks just kind of mean. mean, those festival kids, like... Dirty festival hippies. It's like they'll do ground score drugs. You know what I mean?

And like there's some negative connotations of like, hey, watch your purse around them, which is like whatever. But it's just, it's... Because as far as I know the term comes from, they look like a work at like seven in the morning when they ain't come down. Right.

Well, I remember once a buddy mine that used to work security at Bonner every year. He actually was like a, whatever, like a manager of one of the security teams or something. He always said anytime Fish was there, it always hit much less for them because they fans, but they got a lot of those types of fans, I guess. And he told a story about a Wook, who's the way he put it, but he meant Fish fan at the time, like just taking a shit in front and in the middle of a big group.

This is a great way to sell Drew's show. Yeah, dude. I'm glad. No, I get it. I feel like I get it on that. And I didn't even get to the time of day to do it, too. It's, uh, yeah, that's what we're going to do. We're going to take people to court for shitting.

Yeah, right. No, I mean, I feel like I get it. That hits. It says, it does say it originated in the jam band scene, uh, but I guess it wasn't specific to fish, but obviously they're a big part of that. I assume you pitched this based on your experience that we all saw you have, uh, taking these fellers and representing them after Bonneroo and Bonneroo court. Uh, well, I did pitch it partially because when I went to Bonneroo court on behalf of a friend,

And when I got in there, it was mostly Wooks because what I didn't know was Manchester does Bonnaroo Court Day on the same day. But all Wook Court is, the only concept is a festival court would be a more apt description, but it's a shittier title. It's just that we're just doing Judge Judy on acid. It's just that like, hey, do you want to come on Saturday because you've been fighting with your tentmate over, you know, this dude broke my bong and he won't buy me another one? This dude lost my, uh, this is awesome blanket.

And he won't get me another one. So we're doing it out in group camping. They have a stage out there. There's going to be bands and stuff all day on Saturday. I think we're at two or three. I'll announce it bigger, but I just found out that we got the green light. And it's, it, you just as a little inside baseball and you guys know how this goes. You'd like, hey, I want to do this and you know who to talk to and you talk to the people.

And you don't hear from them. And you're like, well, that's a no. And that's fine. Sure. Yeah, of course. And then you move on with your life. and then now eight weeks, seven weeks out, they come and they tell me about it,

which is enough time for me to pull the show off, but I also wanted to get a yes earlier because I was going to do some sketches because the origin of this was me like wanting to do a sketch. And I decided to wait on the sketch until I moved to Athens because there'd be a lot more comics

who looked, wooxed. Yeah, that I could cast. Anyway, so now I'm like feeling like kind of under the gun that I need to get some sketches done or whatever, but that's all good stuff. So here, Corey, here's some, from the R slash festival subreddit. There's somebody posted, can y'all help me understand what a look is? And here's some of the answers from the commenters.

This person says, a look is just a pile of drugs and dirt mixed together that has grown sentient. Wooks are the dudes who talk about spirituality and mindfulness and then break into your tent and steal out of your shit when you're not there. as a person says, I always like to think of them as like hippies, but without any of the ethics that people associate with being a hippie. Professional homeless music fans. So, yeah,

those are some of the... And these are obviously the extreme version. I think anyone at 5 in the morning who can't go to sleep is like, and you're at a festival, that's a wook to me. Oh, I was wooking pretty hard at Bonnery when I was there unintentionally. When wooking is not necessarily my nature, I will.

Well, wooking ain't easy. What I think that if, if, if, if, let's say in this were like a series, one of the cases would just be Wook, Juggalo, right. What is it? EDM kid. Like, what is the difference? Right.

Yeah. And the way I might do that one is like, is our friend a wook? Because my buddy Tommy Lee has argued with me and Brian that he's not a look four years and briml always hit him with like brother you showed up for a four-day festival with a pack of luncheables and a dream and nine hits of acid you was going to sell that you lost on day two right and uh what are you like a wook uh here's just one more because uh you know i think it kind of hits this person says wooks have often compared to the famed viet con which would which would catch American combatants off guard by attacking suddenly

and then just as suddenly, seemingly melt right back into the forest, never to be seen again. Comparably, Wooks often show up at music festivals in remote locations, despite not having a reliable means of transportation nor the money to secure one. Upon the conclusion of said festival, they are also often the last to leave the campgrounds, leading many to admit they are unsure if they ever really leave at. all and where they go if they do. So, and heroin. One of the first ideas I have for a case as a sketch is, um,

the bumper sticker clearly states, ass, gas or grass. No one rides for free. Is this an enforceable contract? Because this bitch ain't gave me none of the three all weekend. Right. It's, I put it here. It's my Facebook post disclaimer, you know.

Yeah. Those, those people. Yeah. Well, Wook Court, that sounds, I mean, again, I felt like I got it immediately because I'm familiar with the word. And I was like, oh, that's a good idea. I mean, especially at Bonaroo, you know, obviously. I'm just hoping people turn out. I mean, we're also going to have to go around and gather people, but I'm pumped about that too.

Well, that's, I think you're doing a show of Bonarro too. Yeah, I mean, I feel like. You can gather wooks. They're so easy to gather. I just feel like if you're, if I was at Bonaroo walking around and I wasn't like super into the thing I was going to do and someone basically barked at me. hey, there's what court happening over here? I definitely check it out. Yeah, for sure.

But again, they're the most easily gatherable group of individuals on the planet. They want to be gathered. They commune. They go to the gathering. They go to anything called the gathering every year. Yeah. They all have minimal resources, but if they come together, then they have all the resources. You know, like you just fucking pick ten of them and go, hey, I'm the, and you, we've always said,

tremendous cult leader energy, and that's what it is. I think I got cult number two energy, but I do appreciate it. And I have been, and I realize at some point in my life, I've been auditioning leaders on and off too. Like DJ comes to my, we're like, because you know, every time you watch a cult doc,

that's Johnny Ringo, buddy. I'll tell you what. And then often one, either two or one gets out of control, you know what I mean? Like two is tired of one and kills him, or one realizes they actually have all the power and kills two, but then it falls apart because somebody's going to have to actually

kill our enemies. I really just think I could have a good dynamic with somebody. I agree more charisma than me. You and Teets? You pulled off. Teets and I are both number two's actually. Yeah. If we ever found a good number one, we would probably rule the world.

Shout out Teets. Had a good week. I won't put his business in the street, but he had a good week. Hell yeah. Shout out our boy, Teets. Congrats. I couldn't, I don't even think I could be, like, in the world of the cult, Like, I was like, I'd be a follower at best, but like, I can't fucking, I couldn't even do that.

Like, two or three days and they're like, it's four. We got to fucking all do this thing. I'd be like, absolutely not. We're not doing that. Also, you just always got to suck the one dude's dick. Yes, I'm getting my butt fucked watching my wife get railed. Like, that ain't it. What?

How many mushrooms I got. How sweet the robes are, you know. Yeah, right. You'd be a good patsy, though. I could have a lot of fun. making you the cult leader in a situation where the goal isn't actually to start a cult, it's to have some sort of op going on while the CIA dude does whatever else is going on. Would that sort of be like the Mandarin in the MCU?

Like he was just a patsy terrorist that the CIA uses a head because he was a good actor? Because yes, I could do that. You can't think of anything I could possibly. That's kind of sort of, well, I don't know if I want to say it or not, because I still know. You know that Audible original thing that I've been working on for a decade? Yeah, yeah. Useful idiots.

There's a, there's, that's sort of adjacent to a type of thing that happens in that. But, and it's funny because the character in it, there's definitely parts. You, you started this by saying Cho would that big, Chow would be good for that, that particular character in that. I definitely pulled some things from, from Cho in real life for the character. The version of that happens to. Oh, yeah. Um, yeah. I'm a dummy.

Yeah. You obviously also contain all the things like Willie, but I am talking about the dummy parts or obviously as far as yet, right. Well, it's funny. I can't wait to hear it. I'm fucking pumped, dude. Uh, all right. Well, fucking where are you, smart people going to be?

What are you doing this week? Uh, Riley, North Kalina, North Kakalaki. Good nights. This is actually, I've not, you know, this is their like new. I mean, I say new. It's been, they've been there for a few years already now because time sucks. This is my first time at this iteration of goodnight, so I'm looking forward to it. And then Phoenix next Thursday for a one-n-eighth third, and then a bunch of stuff after that.

And Brooklyn, New York coming up real soon, too. So, damn, real soon. So, yeah, a bunch of shit, all at traycrouter.com. So check it out. I'll be at Wilcourt at Bonarue. We might change the name after Tray disparaged it correctly, accurately. What? I was just realizing that some people, like regular-ass festival kids might be like,

oh, we're going to go have a court about that dude who shit all over my car last night? I don't think I want to see him. But the works will. Yeah, I'm going to be in Bristol at the Blue Ridge Comedy Club, May 1st and 2nd. That's Bristol, Tennessee, Virginia. I'm going to be with Trey in Portland. That's all I can remember at the moment at the end of May. When I'm not chewing rocks or licking windows,

I'll be writing essays over at Corey Wrights for You.com. Corey writes for you. And as always, you can either pay or you don't have to. That's the dumbest business model ever. So it's very fitting to me. Trade, you're going to text to you when we get done here and be like, well, dude, you should see the character. based on Drew.

And he just sends you a picture of a half dog man, you know? And she's like, It's just an asshole with teeth. Well, on that note, real quick, that, DJ asked for that super old script that me and him, he came up with the story for it. Then I wrote the script like years ago. Yes.

And I found it since y'all and I rewrote it for the first time. And I got to the Drew character in it. And I was like, okay, I really, this was DJ, right? I'm hoping this was DJ. I was like, because I kind of feel bad about this. But I really do think it was DJ for the record. All the characters in the story and shit and that was him. And I just put it into like action script form and dialogue and stuff.

But yeah, I got to. I wouldn't, whose name is Drew. All the other characters have aliases. But then the character shows up just named Drew. That's what DJ move. That's 100% D. And I was reading it. Like laughing his ass off.

He is so mean to me all the time. Read it. Pull it up and read it. I didn't read it. Pull it up and read it. People will enjoy this. Let's do a live reading for the 10th anniversary. What would we do that?

Let's tease it and do it next week or something if we want to. Because I'll have to go and find it. We're not. I understand. Yeah, we will. I'm so excited. People will be Instagram messaging me about this. Thank you all for listening to the well-read show.

We love to stick around longer, but we got to go. Tune in next week if you've got nothing to do, go see Wookie Court with our boy Drew. Scoo. B. Art. We gonna get drunk and we gonna talk a lot. Dress-roof-Fat. What other rednecks

to talk about four in a bit? Laughing so hard that we end up falling out of our chairs. Sir, Trey, Sir Corey. Oh, what a pair. High-class topics with a redneck flare. Oh, we get drunk and we're going to talk a lot. Dress-ro fancy sitting our chairs.

Get drunk and we're going to talk a lot. Dress-ro fancy, sitting our chairs. Count your blacks over. That you think are nameless, faceless. Their families are getting together and plotting on you from the attic and basement. So even though Corey is. We're going to get drunk. We're going to talk a lot.

We're going to get drunk and we don't talk a lot.