wellRED podcast - The Mad Trapper of Rat River (and also things suck and do not hit)

Episode Date: January 29, 2025

Trae tells a super hittin story of a Canadian feller who lived off the grid and defended himself against a bunch of Mounties like something from a Jason Statham movie. Then Corey and Trae spend the rest of the episode talking about how much shit sucks Go to TraeCrowder.com to see Trae on tour  Go to CoreyRyanForrester.com to see Corey on Tour (Atlanta and Charleston coming up!)  Corey and Drew are doing a special show in Athen's Ga on Feb 16th that will be hosted by Patterson Hood of The Drive-By Truckers! Live at Hendershots.. tickets here: Drew And Corey and Patterson Hood In Athens!

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that you can suck. Like your bowels. Like my bowels. Not too loose, but not too tight. Speaking of my bowels and then being loose, hey, me and Drew are going to be getting loose in Athens, Georgia, baby. I was wondering what we were doing there, because I knew what you were going to say.

Oh, I'm going to have diarrhea. I mean, for sure, I'll have diarrhea, if not during it, but as a result of it, heathen's homecoming week for the truckers. we will be closing that bitch out with a comedy show February 16th at Hinder Shoots. Correct, Drew? I believe it's called Hinder Shots. I believe it's a coffee and then bar.

It's a coffee bar in the morning bar at night. So I think it's like a play on get a shot of coffee or espresso, get a shot of liquor. And Henderson is the last name of the man who owns it. Pumped as hell. They reached out. I mean, not everyone like Patterson did personally, but they were like, hey, we got a hole here. Why don't you do comedy? Our buddy Jared was like, I'll talk to Patterson about it.

And then he was like, Patterson wants to host. At first I was like, dude, Patterson's going to be like, please don't put another thing on my fucking plate. And instead, he was like, oh, we're trying to eat dessert. So it's going to be rad. Me and Corey are going to co-headline. We're going to have Gilbert Lawlin come up, do some time who Patterson loves. His new specials out.

I told him I mentioned that, by the way. It's called Georgia Bread Iraqi Born, hilarious man, who is Georgia Bread, but Born in Iraq. Yeah, the 16th. If you all out there saw me in Atlanta, whenever that was fairly recently, two, three months ago or whatever, that was Gilbert on that show.

If y'all saw him there and you know that he hits and it's funny. Oh, nice. So, yeah. So if you saw him there and you know he hits and he's funny. And also, if you didn't see him there, we're fucking telling you he hits and he's funny. It's going to be a good time. Come out and see us.

Come early. Go to a trucker show. Come hang out for homecoming weekend. Stay another day. I'm going to go to a wrestling show the next day. if I can get tickets, heard it sold out. I bet I know a guy, though.

Yeah, for sure. Yeah, come see us and the tickets will be, I'll put the link up here in the description of the podcast. For the rest of my dates, you can go to Corey Ryanforster.com, coming at Charleston, Atlanta, and some other stuff.

But it's, yeah, it's going to be a fucking blast. I can't wait. And by the way, if you want to come see us in Athens, you better get the tickets quick because, like,

we sold like a third of them within like 30 minutes of us post, of Drew posting it. So fucking. we'll see you all. Yeah, if I'm selling a third, imagine what I have them now that Corey posted it today, losers. So hurry. It'd be funny if this is the first time someone's finding out right now

and it already sold out and we're just berating them. Yeah, that hits from me. Where to go, idiot. Yeah. All right. Here we are, though. Great plug. Trey, plug your shit while we're already doing it.

Since we're plugging stuff, okay. Well, next weekend, I'll be in Salt Lake City. Then after that, Kentucky, Louisville and Bowling Green. and then the Carolinas, Charleston, Riley, Charlotte, and then a bunch of other places after that, to go to traycrouter.com and come holler at me. Also, keep your eyes peeled in March. I've got a special coming out on YouTube called Trash Daddy,

but it's still a little ways out. I'll remind you this again. It was supposed to have already been out, but then the shit with the fires made some of the people that, it was supposed to come out like right then, like right when that happened. And a lot of people don't work. Yeah.

Didn't you already wait once to? Yeah, well, no. I mean, kind of. Before we ever set a date, initially, I wanted it to be way earlier and it got pushed for various reasons. Then it was supposed to be right as the fires happened. And people were like, nobody's going to pay attention to a special. We can't put this out right now. Then I just wanted the next available date, but it's going to be on 800 pound gorilla's YouTube channel.

And they already have a bunch of specials like scheduled to come out already. Like they filled their calendar. So the earliest I could do was March 13th. So if y'all listening didn't know any of that, but I don't know, I just felt like saying. I saw Drew's face and I felt like saying it because people, if they've been paying attention, they know that I've been talking about it for a while now.

Well, it was supposed to have already had been out, but the world conspires against me, as y'all know. So it'll eventually happen. Speaking of terrible things happening, you just reminded me of something I wanted to bring up. You ever have like, you go back and watch a movie and you just, you know, certain events make you notice something

that you wouldn't have noticed before. And like I was watching, I threw on, you know, the movie Downsizing the Matt Damon movie where everybody gets time in. I've only ever heard bad things about that movie. It's not the greatest movie ever, but it's like fine. I throw it on at night when I'm just kind of,

you know, just want something on. Like I would never be like, everybody, please see downsizing. But dude, I don't have like a wild genre shift in that movie? I've never seen it. This is just things that I've heard. People are like, that's like two separate movies.

and one of them was kind of cool, and then it got weird as hell, and I don't know why they did that, and it's fucking, I couldn't, you know. There's definitely an element of that to it, but it's like, it's like stupid, silly, sci-fi and then kind of existential or whatever, but the premise is just that, like, this Norwegian scientist has figured out a way to shrink people to about yay big, right? And the reason that they're doing it is like, hey, this is going to help, like, there's a climate disaster or whatever, and we can really reduce our carbon footprint because like during the demonstration he brings out like a garb one garbage bag and he's like this

is the trash for this entire community of small people for a whole year like it's just one you know so everybody's on board with that but a lot of people are like dude fuck all that it's just the the financial benefits like my $125,000 in equity is worth $12.5 million when I shrink so like a lot of people just use it to retire early right anyways I'm watching it and of course there's like an element of like people being like, you know, being like racist or bigoted towards these people. Like, y'all shouldn't have a full vote. You don't participate in this economy. And like, of course the dude is, the main guys that's doing that at a bar is played by this fucking redneck maga guy screaming at everybody for wanting to get small. But anyways, they have this

scene where there's all these political pundits talking about it, one of whom is already shrunk. So she's got this tiny little desk and they're having to film her in a different way. And I never noticed this movie It's so like aside from these scenes It's kind of all played as a joke And even the pundits part are like played as a joke Except for this one line for this black dude Who's on CNN

He's like it's like a cutaway They're like well you know the the effects on our economy Like people aren't spending money And you know property values going down Because all these people are moving out And now their house is just sitting there And then he goes not to mention All the Israelis shrink in the power

Palestinians and then it just fucking cuts away. And I was just laughing my ass off because I was like, what a fucking hardcore joke in the middle of this innocuous thing. Which, you know, not that the Palestinians and the Israeli people has not been a hot button issue for years, but I don't think it was as hot of a button when downsizing came out. Oh, I don't think they had a road debt in there today.

That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. Like, it's, yeah, right. Yeah, it's like, uh, South Park, I believe, I'm not mistaken. I think the only thing that South Park has ever apologized for was going after my close personal friend Al Gore for the climate change stuff with a man bear pig and all that,

like a relatively early episode of South Park where they made fun of him for thinking global warming was real. And I think that is the only thing they've ever like officially apologized. They did like a whole episode that they aired where they like, you know, we're like, hey, we were wrong and dumb about this. and we're sorry type of thing. They brought Man Bear Pig back for imagination land and sort of did a thing on it, of course.

I don't even remember the episode. I always thought they were just kind of giving him shit for being such a, like, douche about it, which, I mean, I'm not saying he is, but I get that that's like some people's opinion, like, oh, this fucking rich guy, now he wants to tell everybody how to live. Did they literally say that him believe in global warming

or imply that it was, like, not true? I think that was kind of the whole thing, because, like, man, bear pig, I mean, it's been so long, since I've seen it, but it's like, you know, that's a, that's a ridiculous thing to be, like, worried about, doomsday prophesying about or whatever, you know, but anyway, yeah, I don't know, South Park, they wild, they do have, it's like, you know, they kind of have, they're like, we all think they are, nihilist, cynics. Nihilis, libertarian, they're probably libertarian.

Yeah, but, like, they don't, they definitely, they're not like, they're not left, really, and they're certainly not right either. Oh, they're libertarian. I didn't know you meant politically. They're pretty openly libertarian, although I think, like, most people who are smart as they've aged, they've backed off a little. I think Doug Stanhope has a thing he wrote about that, about why he's no longer libertarian that I think's the most, like, honest and intelligent and funny thing. And he basically was just like, yeah, I looked around.

I grew up. I assessed people, and I said, that won't work. Yeah. But I think they're absurdist in terms of, like, their philite. And to me, because the difference to me in like nihilism and absurdism is like, what's the point? And absurdism is like, well, enjoy yourself. Like, it is all bullshit, but we might as well at least laugh about it. Otherwise, it's pointless and I'm miserable. Yeah, I feel like with those guys, they're like, I know kind of what a lot of people are, which is like, I think they are

socially liberal, but are also so extremely annoyed by what that means to most people. And like, how a lot of those people behave and put their self forward. They hate celebrities. Like that's been their whole thing forever. And that's why they don't do interviews that they're like, we want to make stuff,

but we don't want to be celebrities because we fucking hate celebrities. So like, I think they just hate all the like phony activism of it. But when it comes down to it, they do want all of those things. Like to come to fruition, they're just like,

ugh, don't say it so gaily. You know what I mean? How old are they? Probably 55. So they're solidly genetic. Oh, yeah. They're definitely Gen X for sure.

They're the most Gen X people ever. Yeah, I would agree with that. Yeah, I would agree with that. I would look forward to the day where the standard typical, at least in my head, Gen X right winger, is as right as we go. And I would say, and this is, you know, offensive, I guess, but this is South Park. To me, I would assess their outlook is let the faggots get married. And like that, like, because it's like in my point being specifically like they say slurs. they want a boat,

they want to be left alone, and they think everybody else should be too. But again, you know, as you grow up, it's like, yeah, but sometimes the government

has to tell people what to do because people are idiots. Yeah, that's like that much of libertarianism hits for me too. Do you know what I mean? Like I remember when I first learned, I've talked about this before,

but I think mostly on skews, but like, with Irvine, but like when I first learned about libertarianism, it was in like college. And I was, you know, I had a gay uncle,

was in favor of gay, people getting married and did not think I would literally ever live to see the day that that happened. Like that was my belief at that didn't, you know, in like 2005, 2006. I was like, that'll never happen in this country. But it should. And also that weed should be legal. That'll never happen either. Thought that too, you know, and all this stuff.

And when I was introduced to libertarianism and it's like, yeah, the government don't have to tell nobody to do any of that. They need to stay out of all that. I was like, and we should all pay less, you know, less taxes or whatever. And at 20 years, I was like, fuck, yeah. That sounds rad. But then for me, it didn't. take 30 years or whatever to think it through and be like, well, but I mean, you can't do that

with everything. Right. You know, you need roads. You need to disallowed chemical companies from poisoning water supplies. You need to work that they do, not just make them pay a fine. It means nothing to them. You need to do some of this stuff and some of that stuff has to be done by government. And government's got to have resources from somewhere.

So, you know. Empower. You're right. You can't, so you can't just straight up do that. But yeah, a lot of that, some of the stuff, some of the more social aspects of it or whatever, I'm like, hell yeah, brother, fucking, I'm down with that, you know. I'd be down with a version of it where, like, we were allowed to kill the Dow Chemical people. Like, they start doing that to a community, and then the community murders all of them.

And then everyone goes, yeah, all right. Well, there's just, I've never had an argument with any of those people that didn't end with them, basically. just inventing a new form of government because it's like, I'll be like, I'm like, okay, they're like, you know, the government shouldn't do this and tell us, and I was like, okay, what do you, you know, I was like, what about roads?

You know, what about trade? And they go, we can privatize all that. And I was like, okay, so you're telling me that a company is just going to randomly be like, hey, we got it. We got the roads, right? And they're like, yeah, sure. And I was like, okay, well, how are they going to get the money to do that? And he's like, well, we'd all chip in, you know, like, and I was like,

So tax, so you're just now, so what you're suggesting is that private corporations become the government. I got to tell you, we have that already. Like, you don't have to wish for that. We have that. Yeah. Yeah, the, uh, yeah, the private. And it's like, well, you know, they could do tolls, right? You could have a road company, a private road business that you put tolls on.

If people want to use it, they got to pay you to use it because it's a service and that. But like, there's no way, there's just no business model that makes sense. No corporations ever going to want to do that. Just taxes with more stales. Also, corporations aren't going to every four or two or six years be beholden to an electorate, electorate, whatever you fucking say that word. So like, you know, and obviously that's not working out super great for us lately. But imagine, you know, if Dow Chemical and Raytheon got together and they were like,

hey, we can just make them do whatever we wanted. Right. What's stopping us? literally the only thing is the government and then the violent wings of it, whether it be police, jail, or the army. So, yeah. I've also met a lot of, like, hardcore conservatives. I don't know if they would even say they're libertarian, but they hate taxes.

They love, you know, rich people and all that stuff. And they hate regulations. I hate big government and whatnot. And I've had conversations with them before where it's like, I'm like, okay, so you think that like poor people or the homeless or whatever, like we should just let them die and gutter, like we should just allow them to die. And of course, like, no, of course. And it's like, well, so what, how does that work? And the people in the south, a lot of people that met would be like, well, you know, that's where the church comes in. I've heard that as a matter too. It's like,

that's what the church is for. That you don't make government for that. The church will do that. And it's like, well, what are the, you know, any churches. We're not doing it now. Right. Right. Exactly. We have churches already. And, you know, they don't pay taxes. It's like some of the mandated church. And then they will get a, We'll get a group together that makes the church do that. And we'll give that group power. We'll vote on who goes into that. It's ridiculous.

I'll tell you what you do. No, that's what you do. It's like, yeah, every, so every community has a church, right? Every community has a church. So I can say there's a big government. We just have a community, right, where everybody in the community takes care of each other. And there's not even really that money. It's just that you provide this service and I do this and I grow the vegetables and you do this in this community.

Communion, communism, I think, is what they want. Now you're getting there. Either way. But I'm saying either fucking way, no matter how much the libertarians try to spin their thing, if you go off this direction, it's capitalism. And if you go off this way, it's communism.

Which neither one of them things they say they want, but there's no way to get what they want without implementing one or two of those fucking things. Well, you could convince me to do local communism all day long. And the only role of the federal government would be to make sure no local communists decided black people weren't allowed in their community anymore.

You can convince me of that pretty easily. Oh, me too. I'm just saying. Communitarianism, I think, is what the academics call it. Yeah, well, no, me too. Like, I see the, but I'm just saying, like, they don't, there's libertarians, it's almost like there's, it's not, they just want to fuck a 15 year old and smoke weed. Like, that's their whole thing.

I also think. That's why it made sense when you were 17. Exactly. You did do. Exactly. Yes. I do think maybe if you're, a if you're a lone wolf type feller and not not necessarily full like manifesto persuasion lone wolf but just you know kind of a mountain man type guy off grid homesteader prepper type bear grills not kaczynski and you want to be a libertarian and the government stay out of your shit and you have the capacity you have like some land and the capacity to achieve that and also you leave you leave other people completely out of it or whatever like have that that nobody's agree

with that. And if you're doing that and somebody fucks with you, you know, that don't hit for me. You don't hit. As a matter of fact, I just heard this story about you guys ever heard of the mad trapper of Rat River? The Mad Trapper of Rat River. I feel like I have in law school. Is this a law school thing? I don't know. I mean, it's definitely crime is involved, but it's Canada though. It's not a Mary. It's Canada in the 19th. Canada in the 1930s. So coming out of the Great Depression and stuff,

which was global in nature, I reckon. So people are a lot of Wait, can I pause? You just wanted to talk about this, and I want to give you your flowers. You already had this teed up, and then you pretended like this is some liberty, and that is genuinely, genuinely beautiful to me. Corey, play the applause. Yeah, you know. Well, I mean, you know, it did work.

Yeah, that's my point. My point is that it worked. Unlike earlier when Corey was like, speaking of my bowels. Look, man. He was some, they think Swedish dude. who there was a lot of people that you know got during the Depression people ended up in all kinds of

different places so this guy I think was some Swedish dude ended up in the northern reaches of Canada where it's mostly you know first nations Inuit people primarily and also some like Mounties Canadian Mounted Police and stuff and in like the

early 1930s and so we're talking like Arctic Circle shit like do those people get pissed if you don't call them native Canadians like is that a movement up there Well, I think up there they say First Nations, I think is what they say in Canada. So anyway, in like the early 30s, way, way to fuck up there in the Great White North. One day some First Nations people showed up at the regional Mounties office, right? Which was like the only one for hundreds of miles and some tiny little settlement of 400 people in the middle of the fucking tundra.

And they told them they're like, hey, some white guy keeps fucking with our. traps or animal traps and stuff. You know, we set them and he goes and checks them or he fucks him up or he takes the kills. He does all, you know, and that don't hit. You can't do that. Right. And we think he's staying in this cabin out by the lake, right? So the Mounties went out there to this cabin by the lake up in the tundra in 1930s, Canada.

And they went to knock on the door and like, hey, Royal Mounted Police for his here. And then he just starts firing shots, right? He just starts shooting out of nowhere. Don't say a word. Just start shooting. Is this hells moniker again that you called him the? The mad trapper of Rat River. And then he wings one of the mounties,

the mounties like, oh, oh, fuck. You know, like they didn't see. Yeah, he, he either. Yeah, like they didn't know. They did not think that was about to happen. Of course. So they like retreated. Like, we got to figure out what to do about this motherfucker.

And then they like, you know, regrouped, tried to go back out there. And he was gone. He had left. So they put a, you guessed it, a posse together. but the, you know, a frost posse. Usually when I think possees, I think like sand, dust, tumbleweed posse. Yeah.

This was a snow posse. I got to go. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, I'm missing your snow posse thing. I'll explain you all there. I got to go. Okay. I love you.

I hope everything's cool. A snow posse and they round up a snow posse, which includes some of those First Nations people and all the Mounties they got in the area and they go to track this motherfucker down. And it lasts like. at least weeks, I think, right? And they get into multiple skirmishes with this one dude, like they'd catch up to him, and then a firefight would ensue.

He would escape again and then go on the run. And this became like, this like captivated. So he's just Mel Gibson from the Patriot, like one dude, ghost. But he wasn't even fighting a war, whatever he was just wanting to be left alone, basically. I'm just saying in terms of skill,

like this dude's taken on. And also, I don't think he was, I'm sure, at least, I can't remember. I'm sure at least a couple of these dudes like ended up not making it, but he wasn't just like slaughtering them left and right or nothing.

Right. He was like, don't come at me and I won't do anything to you. And any time they'd get close, he'd fend them off and keep running. And this became like a big, the name I referenced him with was, that's what they called him in the headlines and shit,

because it's captivated the young populace of Canada at the time. Radio was relatively new. And this was like the O.J. Simpson, you know, chase in situation for 1930s, Canada, they got like enraptured in it. And it was like,

I think it might be to date the longest manhunt in Canadian history or whatever. They finally got a shot off that hit him, shot him and killed him or whatever. But they still to this day don't know for sure who he was or what his name was or where he came from. He was like, they did kill him. You just said that?

Yes. The First Nations people had gotten the impressions somehow that they, when they first reported and they were like, there's this white dude. His name is Albert Johnson, right? So that's whatever I was calling him, Albert Johnson. but then later on they realized that was a pseudonym or an alias and they still don't know i think

through the equivalent of like 23 and me type stuff is how they even know that he was a swedish dude because through that whole thing that whole process that weeks long process he never said a single word to anybody like not even like not even like hey fuck off leave me alone like nothing he never spoke a word he would just run from him set up shop shoot at him for a minute get away and then, you know, and then do it all again, which is pretty wild and unsettling, but he obviously, you know, was a bit of a lunatic. Well, yeah, I was about to say, I need this movie and I think Tom Hardy's the best to play the guy.

Tom Hardy would be great. It's a good casting choice. I agree with you completely. But it was like, also, I said it captivated the populace in a, like, Jesse James kind of way, like, he hit for people, you know, like, people were like rooting for him to get away, you know, because like coming out of the Depression on that shit. it related what we're talking about it. There's a general distrust of authority.

I was actually about to bring all this stuff. So, you know. I was about to bring up Clyde Barrow and like that whole, that whole phenomenon when like everyone is, I mean, dude, Luigi. Luigi, I know,

right. Yeah. Like, right. It's all very relevant because we're going through the same type of shit again, now or at least it's starting. Um, I really don't want Luigi to just disappear.

I mean, because I saw some people saying it's like, you know, you notice how they took Luigi completely out of the news cycle as soon as they realized that he hit for people. I mean, they did. But then I saw other people saying it's like, well, I mean, the thing is he's sitting in a cell awaiting trial. There's not really anything to cover. It's not like they're not going to cover it when the trial does get here and everything.

And I'm sure that's true. But it's just I just don't want him to lose steam or I don't want him to remain an icon is what I'm saying. No, I agree with you. And like, you're correct. It's like he's sitting in a cell. And also it's like, don't forget where we are. This is America. and like, yeah, that's a huge news story.

But like, I'm not saying we have a Luigi every week, but we have captivating news that continues to happen all the time. Especially when Trump is the president. That's what I'm saying. Like, we can't stay on Luigi while the Constitution is under attack. Well, while we're talking about invading Canada and all this type of wild shit. But, you know, Trump and him, that's like openly their strategy, I think, coming from Steve Bannon, I think is who it originally.

but they flood the zone. Like them doing this shit they're doing right now in the first week or a couple weeks of the it's like on purpose. It's purposeful to keep to get the exact effect that you are describing. It makes it impossible for people. They do some crazy shit. People are like, what the fuck is this? And then before you can even talk about it, they move on.

A new thing has happened. Yeah. And that's like, that's the whole deal. Like they know they're doing it. If you, uh, you know that the project 2025 that Trump was like, like, I don't have nothing to do with that shit. Like, if you lay Project 2025 over what's happening right now, it's like an exact match of like all the tenants of it.

So it's like, he might not have had anything to do with it, but he sure loved it when he read it, you know? Yeah. Or, I mean, or he's still just, he's just rubber stamping shit that like, you know, people around him bring to him because they've complimented him a lot. And he was like, this guy's brilliant. So I'll just do, you know, he says this will hit. this will hit. He don't even fucking know what he's doing.

Well, dude, we, he's not drawing up explanation you can get, you know what I mean? He's not drawing up these fucking policies. Like, he's not, like, dude, even it, like, okay, even with me not calling, saying that Trump's an idiot, it's like, he does not know he's

still relatively new to politics in the sense of like most dudes that run for president have been in the game for a long time. Like, he doesn't know how drafting a bill works. He doesn't know all the red, like, He doesn't. So somebody else has to do it.

And then like you said, he just... Yep, go ahead. That sounds great. That's racist. Love it. Yeah, right. And I do lean more towards that just because I just think, I just genuinely believed it. I just really do think he's too dumb to be that, like, competently nefarious.

Right. Do you know what I mean? Like, I get... He's mean. He's still to blame regardless at the end of the day. But I think it, I think that is the version of it that I lean to is that, yeah, like, you said it's like he's just he's just saying there being like yeah that's fine love that any old dipshit can be mean but like actually implementing things devising these

things yeah right like doing things where it's like you look at this and it's like i pull this string and these dominoes fall and stuff like no that takes like actual scheming and strategic strategy that like i said even if he is a smart real estate guy this is a brand new type of like there's all sorts of different types of intelligence which is why i'm like i'm you know when we call someone blanketly an idiot. Like we're like, oh, that guy's a fucking idiot. I'm like, well, he's an idiot in the thing that we're talking about right now. But he has his, like, Einstein was a fucking, like, I bet he wasn't a good party planner.

I bet he'd look like a fucking dip shit if it was, if it was up to him to set up a 16th birthday party. But when he's in his, when he's in his click, you know, he's a fucking genius. I think that Einstein, I'm probably going to get this wrong because this might be one of those Mark Twain, Abraham Lincoln type situations. but I think Einstein would very much agree with you because I think it was Einstein who said some version of you know there's countless different types of intelligence if we judge the intelligence of a fish

off its capacity to climb a tree we're going to judge it to be very stupid indeed or something like that which again I don't that might be a fake quote I don't know either way it's good it's still true though yeah right. It's still true like yeah I'm like when you like don't like you know again they'll be talking about all these dudes

in politics right now that are like that dude's a fucking idiot and I'm like I agree that he's unqualified to do this particular thing and he shouldn't be there but in his thing he is a smart person so it's different and that's the that's the scary part is like

you can appear to be a smart person if you're talking about the thing that you know more than anything but people will go he's just a smart person period therefore we should trust him with this and it's like no he's just like if you talk to me or you about comedy for four hours and you just apply that across everything, you'd think we were fucking geniuses,

but we're not. We're idiots. We just know this one thing real good, you know? Yeah, Chad Daniels had a bit about that years ago. But he, I mean, they're now, they've been divorced for a long time, but his wife at the time was some kind of PhD and something, some real impressive PhD holder. He had a whole bit about actually, she's kind of a dumb ass outside of that one thing, which always hit for me. I don't remember any actual jokes, but it was him. So you know, it was hilarious but embers cousins or doctors i assure you that aside from the human foot they don't know shit you know what i mean yeah i don't know i'm sorry it is wild time well i don't have anything to go ahead with it's just uh but yeah things things do be wild they do be it's one of those deals

where it's like i keep telling myself it's like ah that won't you know it's like a grandstanding it won't actually shape up that way but then it's like i don't know it might though and if it does then it'll be wild indeed yeah What am I even talking about? Hard to say. Could be a bunch of different things. Or just all of it. All of the same time. I was about to say, just don't expand on that and you'll look. And it's accurate. Yeah. Right. Exactly. No, I mean, I feel the same way. And like, I think there's a lot of people that have just totally forgotten how his first four years went because they keep, they keep just going like, well, he can't do this.

And I'm like, yet, yet there, yet he persists. You know what I mean? I'm like, I know, I know what you mean is like, legally he can't. And it's like, right. But that doesn't. matter. Like he, you know, there's that. Well, in his first term, there was still some naive, you know, semblance of an understanding that that was true. Like for a while, but there was still in the first time, we were still, we were still like, okay, but he can't do that. Right. Someone's going to actually stop him from doing this, right? And then after, after all these years of that never happening,

and not only that not happening, but the opposite of that happening, right, i.e., the highest court in the land, basically saying he can do whatever he want. After all that has happened, this many years later, yeah, I don't know why you'd even waste your breath being like, well, he can't do that. It's like,

who the fuck is going to stop him? Like, yeah, you know. There's that old meme where it's like, it's like America is just going, but a dog can't play basketball. Whereas, and then the dog just is dunking over everybody. And like,

yeah, I mean, that's why I argue that this term has been, has been like way worse and like way more depressing. Because like, like you said, when he first got in,

there was this thought of like, okay, look at it, this is so stupid, everybody's going to realize this was a mistake and we're never going to do this again. And now it's like, bro, we've had eight years to sit in it. And most, and a lot of, most of the voters still was like, I'd like to sit in that for longer. I know, but now already you've got a lot of those people, me and Mark talked on skews this week and also the video that I'm hoping to put out touches on this a little bit. But like, there's already tons of examples of people who in this first week are posting themselves like crying on social

media and stuff being like, I'm a Trump supporter and this is ruining my life. What is he doing? Why is he doing? You know, it's like, I'm a Latina who voted for Trump and my friends and family are being deported. We're living in fear. Why is he doing this when we supported him? And it's like, he fucking told you. He was going to do that. Like he, that's like the number one thing he said he was going to do that. It's either that trans people are eggs, right? And you can't do shit about eggs, which they completely stop caring about. But like that, he said he was going to do that the whole time. And it's like in their head, they're like, well, but I'm, no, he said, was going to deport violent criminals. I'm just a Mexican person. It's like, that's the same thing to them. Right. Like that you are Mexican equals criminal to these people. I don't know how you somehow don't understand that after all these years in this country or dealing with these people.

But it's like we're seeing all that like dude, I said the other day in our group chat, like the subreddit, Leopards ate my face. Bro, if you could buy stocks and a subreddit, that one right there take you all the way to the moon because it's fucking, it's about, they're going to be eaten over there because I all these people that are like, I'm Maga, I love Trump, but what is this? What's he doing? He was supposed to do all those terrible things to everybody else. Not to me. He's doing it to me. And it's like, yeah, you, you don't have a stand. You are everybody else. You don't, you don't have for him. They don't give a fuck about you. It's like, we've been trying to tell you that for years,

but it's like, I don't know after what we were talking about after the first go round. I don't know how these people are still left who are surprised by this, but they are. that are out there and every day a new one realized like, wait, he's a liar and he's fucking me over. It's like, where do fuck have you been this whole time? But like, yeah, I don't know.

It's nuts. You know, like, I've talked about this for years. I know we both have where like, yeah, there is a lot of people. And I excused him on the first go round. I definitely don't excuse him now because like, you've had eight years to look into this shit. But like on the first go around, like, there definitely were people who never got,

They don't even have a Facebook or a Twitter or whatever. Like they literally just see Republican and Democrat and they're like, well, this is, you know, who I am, whatever. And so they didn't see the comments he made about like they're all rapists or they just didn't see him. Like they weren't paying attention, whatever, right? And they're like, I've seen not just Mexicans be like, I thought he was going to take everybody away, not me. I've seen Mexicans be posting like they didn't even hear any of it. They're like, whoa, whoa, hold on. I voted for this guy because I'm a conservative in the tax.

He's trying to deport a bunch of people. And everybody's like, yeah, he said that the whole time. And they're like, I just wasn't paying attention to, you know, all that shit. And it's like, I just don't know how you know that he ever says anything. If you don't know that he's saying at least that. That, right. That's like, again, that's like the number one thing that he said. That's Hotel California for that.

It's the whole thing for them. This whole election was built around that one thing. How do you know even that he's really? running or anything about him and somehow not know that he wants to do that. They literally, they literally hear that he's like all these violent criminals, these rapists or whatever, we're going to get them out of the country.

And they literally think that he means we're going to be very selective and only, and it's like, no, like it's, to them, it's a bunch of bad apples in a barrel. Like you got to get rid of the whole barrel because like, yes.

And, you know, I guess to their credit, it's like, yeah, I mean, if you were trying to. out violent criminals who were illegal immigrants, technically it would be easier just to get rid of all of them than it would be to look into each individual case. Like, that is true. And again,

you voted for it. I don't, but I can't, like, I'm trying to think of like the liberal equivalent of buyer's remorse where it's like, Kamala wins and someone's like sitting there fucking crying, like, I, I voted for Kamala, but I didn't actually know she was going to bake a cake for my bulldog daughter's wedding. I had no idea. only thing I could think of would be continuing to support Israel and stuff. But the thing with that is, those people, like, did know that

beforehand. Like, me. Like, the genocide don't hit for me. But I still voted for... That was a big reason that not a lot of people voted for him. I know. And now Trump is saying we need to clear out Gaza completely. And he sent 2,000 more bombs to Israel and all that. And those people on the left are making shock Pikachu faces right now. Like, we weren't screaming at them for months. That's exactly

what would happen. But anyway... Yeah, because, like, that still is not analogous. Right. It's still not analogous because like I was aware of that and that did not hit for me, but I was like still making the choice. So even if she had, if I voted for and she won and then she did that, it wouldn't hit for me, but I wouldn't be like, well, where did this come from? You know, I would be like, yeah. I mean, we all knew this was on the table and it don't hit. You know, that's what I'm saying. Like being shocked by any of it. I don't. I don't know, man. No, I mean, I don't get it either. But, you know, it's where we are. And it's not like, I hate to even say this because, you know, I say this being a white male, straight, straight white male. So I'm like, obviously any, any type of effect this whole thing is having on me is purely from an empathy point of view. You know what I mean? Like, purely from an empathy point of view. Well, I mean, for now, I do be wondering sometimes because you be running your mouth publicly as I do.

And that could put a target on my or your back. That's true. That's true. And I welcome it. I welcome it. It could get real for either of us, depending on how far this goes. It sure could, but right now that's all hypothetical. Like, all the actual stuff that's happening is happening with people that aren't me.

And I'm so jealous of those people who literally do not have it in them to think about anything other but themselves. Like, those people are fucking crushing it right now. But I'm not blessed with that. Like, I, so I'm saying, like, me, a person who like doesn't have to wake up in the morning and worry if my aunt's going to be fucking put in the back of the truck, I'm warning. I'm worn out after eight days of just this shit. Like I'm one and I don't know what like I, you know, we're political like unfortunately because I never, I know that you didn't seek out to be this and I didn't seek out to be this. It's just that 2016 was kind of wild and with our accent, we felt the need to be like,

we should probably let people know that that ain't us. You know, that's that because people have always just like, what was your like? How did you get into political comedy? I was like, I didn't even know I was doing it. I think that I could probably speak for Trey when I say that. We had no intention of being political commentators. It's just that. In 2016, when all of this country was trying to blame Trumpism on people that looked and sounded

like me, we felt that it was either important to let everybody know that, hey, it's not all of us, or at least we thought it was important to let everybody know, hey, that ain't me personally. Like, you know what I'm saying? And I just, I don't know what to fucking say right now. Like I have no idea because none of it matters. Like I'm, and I've never been like,

um, I've never assumed anything I did helped anything other than help people get through their day. Like I've never, you know what I'm saying? Like people always say about us like, oh, you're, you're needed. We need you so much.

You're help people like you are helping. And I'm like, we're not helping the fucking calls. We're helping you be able to go through this shit and then digest it in a funny way. And I, and I think that's like my purpose on this earth. and that's all I do. I've never changed the vote,

but I've changed someone's attitude right before they went to bed. But I'm finding it hard to fucking even find the tiny little wriggle that I can take from any of this shit to make into a satiric point for humor. You know what I mean? Yeah, I've been, I mean, I stopped to, you know, do these podcasts that I've got in the middle of the day, but I was in the middle of, you know,

got another video of mine that I'm going to be putting out, and it's kind of just a rundown of some of these things over the past week, just try to get to as many of them as I can. And I've definitely, I mean, I've about gotten through what I think I want to say. And it's like definitely less joke. There's still like jokes and things that are meant to be funny, but it's more just, it is more just like exasperated and pissed off than it is like funny, you know, which oftentimes those hit more for people, but it don't hit for me.

I want to be funnier than that. But it is harder. But no, it is hard. Yeah. It's also, it's just, again, with the whole. dump of information thing. It's just hard to do so many like different bases. I feel like a bunch of things are getting cut out.

And even to get to what I feel are like the main things or whatever that I want to at least touch on, I got to blaze through it, you know, and it's just, yeah, no, it is hard for sure.

I've said this before. I've been open about this, at least on my Patreon. I have, but I don't care to say it now. I had my stupid, naive self, I thought going to,

I didn't, I was not writing it off the possibility that Trump could win. I was not assuming. Kamala Wood because I mean I got punched in the mouth of 2016 I knew it was on the table but I was hoping obviously that Harris would win and in my head I was like if she does then maybe finally we all as a people can like move on right from this stage of the American experiment right the MAGA Trump stage we can begin to move on from that and if we do then I intend professionally to shift into being more just, you know, a funny, verbose country feller and not any kind of political

commentator or whatever. I started making those like food videos, right, which I'm going to keep making them, but like stuff like that, more stand-up clips and things of that nature and less political shit because I was, and I was like, and people will be okay with that because it's like, yeah, we're all moving past it. Right. And then obviously it went the other way. And when it went the other way, now I feel like, well, I can't not do what I've been doing

now you know what i mean like i have to you know that's the shit's crazier and it's ever been and look around it's like there's a bunch of people tuning out but also i've had plenty of people tell me it's like i'm tuning out of everything except for y'all except for the skewniverse or whatever because i can handle listening to you guys talk about it or just but it's like which i don't know i appreciate a lot i appreciate that too but i was so ready to like just put all this behind not not just me but all of us and then it didn't go my way and now i'm definitely i'm you know I never, as soon as that happened, I was like, well, all right, time to redouble my efforts, I guess, and dig back into what I've been doing because I know how to do it and, you know, people are going to want me to do it and that I'm going to want to want to do it probably because I'm going to want to be pissed off. But it is definitely, it's hard to keep, none of the, one of the main things people keep saying to me is like, how do you, how are you not like falling apart, basically, you know, right?

Or just complete exhaustion from all this stuff or whatever. And it's like, that is definitely hard. Because more of that I'll be reading, I'll be reading on Reddit, you know, to get. get an idea of what I want to talk about and look at what all this happens. And at multiple points in just the last seven days, I've been like, dude, I have to put this down. I can't keep reading this shit. Like it, you know, it like gets to me on that level because it's like, no, me too. You know, and also working with Mark, smart Mark, you know,

there's just a lot of motherfuckers out there who sound like to know what they're talking about who basically say like, oh, it's over. It's over. It's over. We're done. You guys don't understand. There ain't no coming back from the we're all fucked. And it's like, I can't read.

And I cannot let myself. so believe that shit. So I started seeing that shit. And I'm like, I got to go look at football news and my teams don't hit. So that depresses me further. So I go play video games and get fat. I find something to make me forget it. But yeah, it's tough.

I was about to bring that up where it's like usually you jump into your text threads with your buddies to like, you know, lose yourself or whatever. But we're our main text thread is with smart marks. So like we get it on fucking all sides. And I've been, I've felt the same way where like it's like never been more important. to keep up with the news. I know that, but it's also like, okay,

at what point, though, do I put on my oxygen mask first? You know what I'm saying? For like my wife and for my child. Like, I'm aware of, because you get,

you, you, you, you, you, you like, it's a very thin line between, I'm taking a moment for my mental health and just,

hey, I'm white and it don't matter. So I'm putting my head in the sand because I can have a good time and like, lose myself in football. So, like, there's like that fucking balancing act.

And I felt like I've been laying on my fucking, and this would be a great thing for Republicans would love to clip this out and show me as the weak beta male that I truly am. I've been just fucking laying on my dog bed just like staring at the ceiling like I just don't. Like I read the and I'm like what it what's the point like is I can't make it funny. Should I even try to make it fun? Like what how fucking what life are you living that you look at this despair and think to yourself. how can I make it funny to pay my mortgage? And it's like, yeah, but that is what you do. And like people, it hits for people when you do it.

Like, they want you to do it. And then I- Because if they're going to deal with it anyway or cope with it or interpret it anyway, like they'd rather do so in a way that at least they can like crack it hits to like a laugh at or whatever, you know, and I would, yeah, right. I try to make, like, and I know you do too. Like, I always try to make stuff that I would like, like that, you know what I mean? Like that's, that's my goal.

is like, I always tell me, it was like, I'm, I'm not really making it for y'all. I'm making it for me and I hope you like it. You know what I mean? It's sort of like that Rick Rubin approach where it's like the audience comes last because it's like you don't think about the audience, you think about yourself and it turns out if you make something true to yourself, it will hit for people. You know what I'm saying? But like I, you know, the past four years like doing putting on airs just felt so right, you know, and I loved it. And I still do. Like, and I look forward to recording that tomorrow because that's like, the last fucking refuge that I have. But it really did feel like we were turning this corner of like, if we can just keep this motherfucker out, it's just all this from now on. Like we've broken through and we don't, like obviously we're still going to be politically conscious,

but we don't have to be coming at it from a keep your gloves up fucking, you know, position. And it just, but I'm with you. Like as soon as he got elected, I found myself like more active on Twitter than I have been in the past four years and more like,

more like I got to do this, I got to do that. And it feels like, I don't know, like, we, we obviously, we talk more shit when we're coming from a defensive point of view, whereas I feel like the other group talks more shit when they're coming from an offensive point of view. You know what I mean? Yeah, definitely. But I don't know. I mean, hell.

Nothing hits. The main thing I just tell myself is like, but then I have doubts about it. I'm like, yeah, but this feels different than anything in my whole life. But I would tell myself, it's like, look, things get wild. wild shit happens people say wild shit all that most people's lives day to day at the end of the day generally you know the world keeps turning life goes on type of thing uh but then i also think like the only way for any of this to end or to either reset or just end forever either the good ending or the bad ending the only real way for that to happen is for things to fall a completely apart

first uh you got hit bottom right and that the idea of living through that that obviously super don't hit for me. I don't want that to happen. And I'm worried that it might be a necessity in either outcome, meaning like that's the thing that knocks some sense into us as a country and as a people. Or that's the thing as I think they're going for, the thing that allows like Elon and all his boat buddies to finish consolidating what's last of the wealth that they don't have because everything will be cheap after everything falls apart. and then they just, you know, run the world as they see fit from that point forward. And there's nothing anybody can really do about it. So anyway, but either way, it requires a pretty bad thing to happen first that I don't, I don't want that to be the case. I don't want that to have to happen. So I don't know, sunny disposition over here.

I'm well read today, but what are you going to do, you know? It is what it is. They just put out a video. Somebody filmed Sturgle at one of his latest concerts, and he's up there in his fucking, in his military garb, which really hits from him. me because that's not stolen valor you know right he allowed to wear camo and shit unlike a lot of these country fucks and sturgeona was basically saying a version of what i've heard you say a bunch and what i prayed for prayed in my head is true a bunch where he was like guys i know it's dark out

there i'm very aware he said and he basically was like but i have to believe i have to believe that all of this is because those he i think even said he's like this whatever this view of masculinity toxic masculinity that these sons of bitches has. He's like, I have to believe that it's overall dying and that these are, they're clawing for survival. Like this is the last, the last, the death throws, the Hail Mary of something that will go away. And he's like, but we're going to have to see some shit first.

Right. Well, as you know, like you said, that I also have said that for years, that was my hope as well, that that was the case. one thing that I have to admit that I've been thinking lately in recent months is like, yeah, it never really occurred to me that they might win, though, when I said,

you know, like this is the death throves of that ideology and they're lashing out. This is their last gasp effort to keep from losing. And I always thought, but ultimately they will and we'll get past it. It never really occurred to me that like that might work.

That they might be successful, that the hell Mary might be caught. Right. it could be. Right. And it's like, and if that happens, then fucking, then what? You know, so I don't know. I mean, I think, I think like, I don't know any other way to put it than like, it's like in those movies where they're like, how do you know this is going to work? And somebody's like, because it has to. Because it has to. And it's like, if you don't have that attitude, like, if you don't have that attitude, like, if you don't have the attitude of like, we're just going through some shit and we'll see it through the other side. If you don't have that attitude, then like, fucking blow your brains out, right? We may as well just all fucking shit. shoot ourselves. You know, so like, I can say all this.

I think it's going to be fine as long as we keep, you know, there's less people, and then people are like, I don't think it's ever going to work out. And I'm like, if you really don't think that, then just fucking jump off a bridge. Like I would, if I didn't believe, you know, a little bit.

It's like we have to, dude, it's like how I feel about every time I see a zombie movie and all these people are running around, like the world has ended and it's run by zombies. And they're just like digging holes to stay in for one more day. so the zombies and I'm like if I ever got to that I'm just ducking my head up and let the zombie eat me you know what I mean so but I don't feel like I'm there right now because if I was I would just dude I'd just quit and just be white and just be like well you know which I've said we've a bunch of they feel like a bunch of comedians are doing that right now where they've just like they used to have these ideologies and now they're just like oh no I think Trump and them are going to win so I'm just going to be on their team and just break in all the money and just sell all my people. people down the river and just enjoy it while it last because what's the point of life,

you know? Right. But see, those people, I'm saying, and I'm not normally this guy. I'm not even saying that I'm predicting that this will happen, but I feel like those people that have made that decision to be like, fucking, I'm just going to get mine and not worry about it and fuck other people. I'm just whatever. I'm not going to let myself worry about that.

Things are all right with me and I'm hitting just fine. If you're hitting hard enough, if you're huge and super rich, whatever, yeah, you're going be fine. think a lot of those people who have that mentality are underestimating the possibility of like genuine collapse. Right. And that it will affect every. I don't care if you're straight white male with a pretty good job.

Like if it gets as bad as it could possibly get like, you're going to be fucked too. It's not just going to be the, you know, the alphabet people and the blacks and the browns and all that if everything falls apart. Like the only people that will really be all right will be the ultra. ultra, ultra, ultra rich. So, you know. And I think a lot of people still think, still thinking I do too sometimes or at least I tell myself, it's like, yeah, okay, but like that, that, that, that, though, I mean, that, we're not,

that that can happen. It's like, I don't know. Yeah. I'm not saying it will and I hope it don't, but I think it can. Well, because we got to understand the definition of exponential and AI is exponential. Like, A.I. Like, dude, like, AI doesn't grow like, any other technology, like the wheel.

You know what I mean? Where it's like the wheel was invented and then it was a long time before it got to the car. AI is not that way. It's like AI's here and it grows by a millennia overnight because that's the way exponential shit works. And like, yeah, you're right. Like obviously the first jobs that are going to be taken are the fucking call center shits or whatever.

But like it won't be long before that's middle management and there goes your fucking, boom, you go. There's the white person that's like, I'll be okay. No, you're not. Like, it's over. Yeah, but it's also just, I mean, dude, fuck AI. I mean, yeah, AI is also is a part of it. But I'm saying, like, as one example, and I don't even Mark said they don't even have the manpower capacity to do this. But like, ice and the border patrol, they've started rounding people up, just like he said they would. We talked about it earlier. Well, I've seen articles where people say, people have said, like, you know, if they are successful in that, if they do what they say they're going to do, this. This country will literally run out of food in two days. Yeah. So, like, that's what I'm talking about. Because also people say all the time, it's like, you know, people don't realize that the vast majority of us are, you know,

three missed meals away from complete and total anarchy or like a country or society. Like three missed meal between today and tomorrow, enough people miss, you know, three meals and society just crumbles. And it's like, if I come home and you get rid of all the immigrants. I'm thinking bad things. I'm saying like everybody wants to get rid of all the immigrant. but if they literally do that. And then it's like, and also because of all the trade war shit,

everyday goods go up by 60, 70%, at the same time that all these industries fall out from underneath us. And also even medical and science stuff is being halted because they're pulling back the federal grant funding and that's already happening and all this stuff. And it's like all that shit could cascade, I think, very quickly. And shit could really hit the fucking fan. But the biggest one in my head is the immigration.

thing. And again, even Mark said, he was like, look, dude, they don't have enough. They don't have the manpower. They don't have the resources to, even if they stay seriously at this, they can't literally deport everybody with the manpower that they have. And so hopefully that won't have. But I'm just saying

everybody treats it like, oh, this is what we want. This will hit. It's like, no, it won't hit. You just don't realize that it won't hit. And we're already seeing that with some of these things. But it could get a whole lot worse. But also, like you said, like, I mean, could be a, benefit of that is like they start doing this shit and then what happens happens where it's like they're not able to shove the food up the pipeline to get here to ultimately make the Sam Walton's of the world billions of dollars and those people go hey this wasn't a good idea

stop doing that yeah that's that's another thing too that I've yeah that I've thought before and everything even in the first Trump administration where it's like I hate to depend on our billionaire saviors to you know keep this from happening but I'd But I, yeah, that is a good point. I do think they won't. I think that most of the most rich and powerful people out there do not want society to collapse because they make a lot of money off it continuing to run. And I think when they realize like, oh, this is getting out of hand, they might put it back together to an extent or, you know, at least slow things down possibly. But again, there's some people who think that some of the richest, like the tech pros and stuff, that they want everything to completely fall apart.

Like some Marcus Crass's shit. So they can buy it all up afterwards because they know they can, Is that where there's blood on the ground by? Yeah, right. Yes, whatever that. I know the saying you're talking about. It's crassist, though, right? That was his whole thing.

But his whole thing was like, shit would be on fire. He'd show up with a fire brigade and be like, I'll give you this money, which is way underpriced, and I'll buy this off you right now. And then I'm just let my firefighters to put the fire out, but I own it and it's mine. Or me and you can both stand here and watch it burn to the ground

and you don't get a single goddamn thing. Right. And so the person would be like, okay, I guess I'll take that over nothing. so they'd sell it to him for way less than it was worth. He'd rebuild it. He became a richest man on there. So, yeah.

Yeah, I mean, I think it was disaster capitalism or whatever, just vulture stuff. Yeah, it was like Roy Wood or somebody, I think, somebody I respect on Twitter. Like, as soon as the fucking California fires started happening, they were like, Oh, it's going to happen for sure. They were like, look to who starts buying up all this land immediately. And that right there, those are the biggest pieces of shit on earth. And, like, they love it when this happens. Like, they can't wait for this to happen.

happen. Right. And by the way, if they can't wait for this to happen, it means, and they're these rich people in charge of stuff, if they can't wait for stuff like this to happen, then it stands to reason that they would do everything in their power to make sure that it continues to happen. You know what I mean? Like, why would those people ever vote for any type of legislation that would prevent something like this when things like this are how they get, they further their areas. B&B monopoly or whatever the fuck it is, you know? Right. That's brutal, man. A lot of, brutal. I'm glad we hit for everybody. Questions. A lot of things.

Yeah, right. Yeah, I cheered everybody up this week, but, you know, what are you going to do? That's where we're at. You come into our heads for a little bit every week and this, uh, where our heads are at. I'd love it if somebody came into my head right now. Yeah. Anyway, we already did the plugs earlier, but I'll just remind you go to traycrouter.com and

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