wellRED podcast - Was Drew Right About Jellyroll?

Episode Date: February 4, 2026

Has Drew been right about Jellyroll this whole time? Were Corey and Trae too stupid to see it? TraeCrowder.com CoreyWritesForYou.com CoreyRyanForrester.com DrewMorganComedy.com...

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Starting point is 00:01:59 They're the They're rednecks They like corn bread But sex They care Way too much But don't give a fuck Next that makes
Starting point is 00:02:12 Some people upset They got Three big old dicks That you can suck My brother-in-law owns a big winch But hasn't mounted it yet Right
Starting point is 00:02:24 So you know There's issues like that My dad used to have a winch on his Jeep But he doesn't have him on any of his current vehicles. So, I mean, you know, it's like everyone at least knows about them. Everyone in my high school, well, not everyone in my high school, but especially if you had a Jeep or something like that, they would always get winches, yet not only would they never use them,
Starting point is 00:02:52 they never even attempted to put themselves in a situation where they would have to use them. And it seemed like just like, what a wild just accessory. to have. What a very expensive accessory to have. Yeah, the Carhart jacket of trucks. Yeah. And a lot of people and I used to own an old busted
Starting point is 00:03:14 Cherokee and I would go 4 by 4. And a lot of people would have a winch that was really small and they would be like, well, if I get stuck, I'll put this around my tree, around a tree and get myself out, which is true. Right. You can do nothing else with those small ones. You cannot pull someone else out. Right.
Starting point is 00:03:31 but the dude who rocked up refurbishes Toyota's was genuinely thrilled and had a very, very badass winch that he personally welded into his car and a custom weld at his shop. I mean, this was like he was, he'd moved the Knoxville and I don't think that accent was Southern, but he was an old boy. Shout out Jake. Yeah, he got winched out. Well, I got winched from off the bank, you know. And the picture I sent didn't really do it justice. Everybody who sold the picture was like, oh, we'll get that out. And then they saw it and they were like, we got to have a winch.
Starting point is 00:04:08 We can't get that out. It's crazy. It like got hung on a ruder. It would have flipped into the ditch. Yeah. No frill-necked dinosaurs showed up to spit in your face. Did they? No.
Starting point is 00:04:20 Okay. Excellent reference. Took me a minute. Yeah. Dennis Nedry, he's winching his Jeep out of a situation when he gets spit in the face. And then drag it. You got to keep tend. on them and all that.
Starting point is 00:04:32 Yeah. Speaking of Jurassic Park. iconic moment. Just because this is semi-organic. I just watched the show Untamed, which is that Eric Banna joint on Netflix. Yeah, where he's like a park ranger.
Starting point is 00:04:46 Yeah, he's a park ranger. You and Katie watched that. I'd already completely forgotten that we'd ever even, you know what I mean? It's just so many different goddamn things now that like things just come and go, bro.
Starting point is 00:04:57 Yeah. It was good. Yeah, no, it was definitely pretty pretty. good, but I can, it's not like, oh my God, you know, like, hold, knock my, I do recommend watching it, like, it's good, but it's not like, you know, when I watch Department Q, like I went around recommended that to everybody. It knocked my dick in the dirt. It was awesome. But Untamed is good. And I love Eric Banna, but Sam, and you might remember this or you might not, but Sam Neal's in it. And like, I, Sam Neal has apparently gotten to the point in his career where he's
Starting point is 00:05:27 just like, yeah, I mean, look, my American accent. sense just also going to sound Scottish, whatever. Like, it doesn't matter. Like, there were moments where it was like he wasn't even trying. And I was like, but I'm for a bit, but, you know, I enjoy him so much. But like, it wasn't that he, he didn't sound Scottish or whatever. He just didn't sound like any American ever. There's no accent.
Starting point is 00:05:52 Whatever it was he was trying to do, that one doesn't exist. And it was, it was hilarious to me. it's weird how there's people who I don't know it's hard to put your finger on as an American what makes like a bad generic American accent but you can't not hear it
Starting point is 00:06:12 like if someone's doing a bad generic American accent you're going to be like this person's not really American but even if you can't really it's kind of uncanny valley right it is I don't know what to say is wrong but it's wrong right right like even if someone's doing a bad miswit
Starting point is 00:06:28 Midwestern or a bad Southerner, I at least know what they're going for, but with him, I don't even know what area he was going for. No idea. You watch Silo? Yep.
Starting point is 00:06:43 Jora Mormont is in Silo, and he's American in that, and he sounds weird. And I love that guy. I mean, he does a great job as an actor, but he just sounds weird to me the whole time. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Remember Vikings, Bjorn, Jorgon, Fulgin?
Starting point is 00:07:04 Yeah. Bjorn, York, Bjorn, Fulgin, yeah. Yeah. The guy who played Ragnar's main son, not the evil one, but the blonde one, who's now trying to be a country star. You know about that? I don't. Actually, I watched part of the first season of Vikings.
Starting point is 00:07:17 Didn't not like it. I just whatever reason didn't stick with it. Oh, it fucking ruled. It got a little weird at the end, but like the two, three, four seasons were badass. Anyway, I thought it was very interesting because that dude, it was like a British show ostensibly. That dude is a Viking. I don't remember where he's from.
Starting point is 00:07:36 But he was pretending to have a British accent while playing a Viking. Right. Well, there's this dude, there's this German dude, Alexander Drayman, who's a German actor, and he is the protagonist of the show,
Starting point is 00:07:52 The Last Kingdom, and the character he plays... Yeah, I know this one. That's what I was going to bring up next. The character he plays is like, half Viking half Saxon. He's like a Viking raised by Saxons or whatever. And that guy who's a German actor, he does this, he clearly like made up his own accent that's like a combination of
Starting point is 00:08:13 British and Viking shit. And in my opinion, he, it's, I like it a lot. Nails out. I can tell that's what he's doing. And I feel like he, you know, pretty much nails it. And so, and I don't even know what he sounds like in real life, probably all Germany. I would have made. Germany. I've looked it up because I was also very intrigued with what he had going on. Did I freeze? No, no, no, no. I just thought there was more to that.
Starting point is 00:08:38 There was, but then you both were looking at me like, that's just my face. I always looked at that. Well, then I looked up like him talking, you know, another English, like, that is the only time he sounded like that. And he would do the tagline, destiny is old. And it was like, what is that? It almost sounded South African.
Starting point is 00:08:58 I think that's why I kind of looked at up. up, I was like, this is Afri-Connor. And it kind of makes sense. And I often wondered, was he kind of copying them? Because that is Dutch people who learned English in Africa from British people. Right. Two generations ago. It's actually their grandkids.
Starting point is 00:09:19 Yeah, Vickers van der Weaver is who I always think of the protagonists of District 9. Yes. All-time, all-time sci-fi movie. that guy's wild um nil bomb camp also south african uh and came out the gate with district nine which is just absolute fire and then like you know never really got back there it's wild how that can happen the probably most prominent example is m night shaman who had multiple like he came out the gate like swinging at a real high level and then just is that just like you can't follow up your own hype or something you know what maybe i mean you also might be like you got so many good ideas sometimes i think it's like when somebody has a great album, their first album, and I'm like, damn, I wish you to have three bangers instead of seven because I bet the next one sucks and it does. I mean, like, I don't want to disparage it because it is a good album,
Starting point is 00:10:12 but there's no bangers on Jid's album. I mean, it was just up for a Grammy. It's very technically. It's not J-I-D. It's either, but it's J-O-K-K. But, I mean, it was up for a Grammy. It's a great album, but everyone who likes them It's like, yeah, the first one was way better.
Starting point is 00:10:32 Speaking of the Grammage, Drew, do you see your boy's shining moment? I was about to bring this up. Which boy? I just want to hear Drew's response. Jelly Roll, of course. Oh, buddy. I think I texted y'all, can we bet on what jelly roll is big announcement, which way it's going to go on Calci or one of those stupid websites that are proof that we are descending faster than we want to admit in a dystopian nightmare?
Starting point is 00:10:54 And if so, I should be able to get odds at the time I called it. right right because he's about to go full maga in my opinion i mean he's going to try to thread the needle but like yeah i don't know why i don't i mean i don't know obviously it's never mind i was going to say i don't know why you do that if you're like a mainstream successful artist like like you know the rock is never going to probably never going to be overtly political in either direction but jelly roll i mean fucking the rock is obviously a tear above jelly roll you look at like but then i thought about obviously in our field, like Joe Rogan and all the biggest comment, you know, no one's bigger and they're all, you know, you know, firmly right wing. Well, all those things are related.
Starting point is 00:11:38 It doesn't hurt your career. Obviously it doesn't hurt your career, but what I'm saying is it was always like conventional wisdom. If you're mainstream successful, you know, you don't, you play it down the middle or else you'll lose people either direction you go. But in thinking about it, I guess with the fact that there's no monoculture or anything anymore, that's, not really necessarily the case. What I was going to say is I think at this point in his career, the rooms he's trying to get in, like he's always going to be the side show on the voice. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:11 He's like, and so it's a choice. It's like you can keep trying to go up from there as the aging former rapper turned with the or you can just like be like, I think I've tapped this out. And in comedy, the analogy would be. Andrew Schultz or Joe Rogan maybe a better one. It's like they're never going to let you host a Grammys dude. Right. So leaning in is the only way to gain to grow, like new fans or whatever.
Starting point is 00:12:40 You're going to lose some, but you're going to gain some. But you're also just analyzing it from a strictly like, I don't know, the industry point of view. Career perspective, yeah. Well, I'm still going to stick career, but like I do think this will eventually move him into irrelevancy. but he's going to make a shit ton of money. My thing on it is the way that he positioned it when he said it, and I don't have the exact quote in front of me, but I'll paraphrase a little bit.
Starting point is 00:13:07 He's like, he tried to do the all shucks thing, and far be it from me. That's his whole thing now. I know, I know. You can only do that so much. Exactly. And that's my point is like as someone who like, I do all shucks on stage when I'm trying to get away with having said something.
Starting point is 00:13:23 And like it is a cheat. It's a whatever. And I understand that. but to sit there and say like, guys, you know, I don't even, I don't even really follow politics. Like in my home, it wasn't this and this. And it's like, hey, we remember seven months ago when you testified in front of Congress. And it seemed very much like you knew what was going on. And you, so what it seems like is you're all shucks.
Starting point is 00:13:48 I don't pay attention to politics unless it's something that affects you personally, in which case you will stand up and you will sound very artistic. and you will not care how many fans you lose. Now, another thing that strikes me is he goes, I don't know anything about politics. It's hard for me to say one side or the other, but I promise you in a couple days, I will make my voice loud and clear, right?
Starting point is 00:14:12 In other words, oh, I'm going to talk about it. Right now I don't know anything, but somehow in three days I will, which to me just is out loud saying, once my PR team writes me this thing that I'm going to say, I'll say it, but now is not the time. And I'm with you, like, it feels like he's about to go just completely full MAGA because right now just doesn't, with the particular ice stuff, it seems like, I mean,
Starting point is 00:14:42 even Republicans are looking at it going, guys, this is bad, this is not a thing to sit on the fence about. I just don't, I still go back to the comedy discussion aside, because comedy's always been like low man on the totem, Paul in terms of entertainment and like, you know, the hit in this comedian is not anywhere close to the biggest music stars or actors or anything and never has been. But so like I still think in music because you think about like Mark sent yesterday the lineup for the Turning Point USA real American Super Bowl halftime show, right? It's the show they put together in protest of Bad Bunny doing the Super Bowl halftime show. This is like, if you're a patriot, watch this instead. And it's Kid Rock who is, without a doubt, Kid Rock is the biggest name they have in music who's like full-blown MAGA.
Starting point is 00:15:35 And then it's like Brantley Gilbert and fucking Lee Bryce and some chick, Gabby, something another. Lee Bryce has got to be the most fucking centrist name I've ever heard in my fucking life. But what I'm saying is. You also talk about the We Trade Delivered that is exactly how they pitched it when they created this. Kid Rock fucking Bramley Gilbert Lee Brock chick yeah
Starting point is 00:15:58 we'll find a chick somewhere but like I'm don't that's like they're that's the best they can put together right in actual MAGA world
Starting point is 00:16:06 and like dude those guys ain't kid nobody takes kid rock seriously outside fucking the MAGAS I know that he still does plenty big enough shows and stuff
Starting point is 00:16:15 but like it ain't the same it's not the same as fucking red carpet at the Grammys and you know fucking headlining new Netflix shows and doing all the, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:16:25 I still feel like if you're in that space going full-blown MAGA is like, I think, I think it's still bad. Like, even though that is a grift, I don't think it's a grift if you've already broken through to the level that he has. It's only good to do it. It don't hurt you.
Starting point is 00:16:39 Exactly. Yeah. If you don't otherwise hit, it can make you hit for them, which is right, which is enough, millions of dollars, which is enough.
Starting point is 00:16:45 But if you do hit, I think it hurts you still. I don't know why he'd do that. I hope I eat my words. He does. He definitely got him some Democrat teeth. And the size up is Republican. I hope I eat my words genuinely because like Corey was talking about when he went in front of Congress, we lauded him.
Starting point is 00:17:03 I know I did. It was great. It was. I mean, it was like, hey, that's an interesting and kind thing you seem to be doing. And thank you for using your platform for it. Right. But I just, to me, it's like the writings on the wall. He's going to try to thread the needle.
Starting point is 00:17:17 He's going to try to like, he's not going to go like full blown to Tray's point. I don't think he's going to be hateful the way Kid Rock is. I think he's going to try to be like a bridge. I mean, think about everything you just said, but imagine you were trying to pitch the opposite. To him or his manager or whoever, what you'd be saying is, look at what these idiots,
Starting point is 00:17:39 how much money and fandom they're getting, and they ain't got half the appeal as you, brother. You're the bridge. Look how many people were upset Charlie Kirk died. You're the bridge. These people have convinced that, dude, there are many people I know around here who pretend to have known what Charlie Kirk was about before he died, probably didn't. Who, like, genuinely think he was this very reasonable, debate me, calm guy.
Starting point is 00:18:08 Right. Like, we act like he didn't often pine for the death of his enemies. And I just feel like that's like he's going to try to actually be that. Yeah, I mean, there's been a ton of people. lately that I've seen online like these Walter Madison, Maderson people, I know I just got his name wrong, but he does good work. Is it Masterson? Yeah, whatever. We all know that guy. He does really good work,
Starting point is 00:18:38 where he's been going up to people and like, he's not like wearing a maga hat and like red, white and blue, but like he's very much just seeming like he's a regular journalist that doesn't have any type of bias. and he's just reading people quotes that Charlie Kirk actually said. Right. And it's blowing. And they're like, guess who said that? And they'll say somebody else.
Starting point is 00:19:01 And they're like, that's actually Charlie Kirk. And they're like, oh, well, you must be taking that out of context. And he's like, okay, well, let me give you the full context. And they're like, yeah, well, you know, what are you going to do? And like, no, most of these people didn't know. They just like, they've seen the propaganda of like, dude, I swear to God, dude, if I see one more Charlie Kirk right next to Martin Luther King, Junior meme, I'm going to
Starting point is 00:19:22 fucking lose my goddamn mind. Like it's unbelievable. And then those same people who they won't hold Charlie Kirk accountable for all the terrible things he said, but then they'll look at Martin Luther King and go, yeah, well, he cheated on his wife. So therefore, everything he said is null and void.
Starting point is 00:19:38 I was just about to say, shout out to Erica Kirk, though, because she's doing the Lord's work over there and making it, you know, harder to defy the whole thing. I'm saying like fucking he's on such a pedestal and such an angel and everything that, you know, they want her to be like fucking Coretta Scott. Carrita Scott, yeah. And she's just not having that.
Starting point is 00:20:03 She can't, you know, she can't stop fucking popping bottles and all this shit that she's, I don't know. I've really enjoyed Erica Kurt getting her group back. I don't know about everybody else. No, it's not. I mean, I enjoy how many people turned on her too. as far as our boy the role, you know, I know that this like is brought up because I said what I said
Starting point is 00:20:27 and it made Page Mad and that was so funny. So all those years ago, but the truth is, and I'm not disparaging you guys for bringing it up, I'm also like have really, really intense jelly roll fatigue. Am I the only one who's like, this dude is a fat rapper who sings country music now? We've already got Post Malone, who he's going on tour with, by the way.
Starting point is 00:20:46 Like, why do I give a fuck? Well, he's actually, you know what's funny? He's sort of played both angles that you can play as a fat white redneck, whereas like, when he first started popping, I feel like the left was like, look at this guy. He's from the South. He's damaged, but he's a kind soul who's talking about rehab and stuff like that. We can use him. That's really great.
Starting point is 00:21:13 We love a good white guy from the South. and now he's going to do the complete fucking opposite, which is, hey, now... He's not going to do the opposite, in my opinion. Okay. Going to act like he's going to be... He's going to couch this as like, it's our time to come together,
Starting point is 00:21:31 but it is definitely going to be under the umbrella or with the foundation of like, this is what Charlie would have, that kind of thing. Yeah, yeah. I'm telling you, he's not going to go full kid rock. He won't be hateful or any of that, but he will be like a,
Starting point is 00:21:44 now is the time. This is what I've said. said I was getting ready to say, we've all got to get past this. But it's going to be a nothing burger, and it's going to be very, very coated with a lot of right-wing stuff. And completely backed, by the way, by, and this is what I really think is going on. I think he's working with, what's the Nashville, Shapiro's Media Company? Daily Wire, right?
Starting point is 00:22:09 The Daily Wire has an event in Nashville called Freedom America or some shit. I think he's either going to speak at that. or he's going to get with like the Candace side. I don't know if you guys have been following the right wing. There's been a big, there's been a big split with the online landscape over Charlie. Oh, yeah, it's been awesome. I think he's just going to try to play the sort of like awshucks thing.
Starting point is 00:22:31 But awshucks, we should all go to church. I was basically, you just now brought up, I was going to say, well, we hadn't even talked about like the Jesus part of it all, because that's his like entree. That's like what he's really doing, right? So far. I mean, the bulk of that accepted speech was just him very,
Starting point is 00:22:46 very fervently praising the Lord. I don't know if it's because it's just how much I just don't care for the Lord or what. But like, dude, people always seem borderline psychotic to me when they get like, like I'm really put off by it. Like it makes my skin crawl, like when people get super into the Lord in public. And I can't put my finger on why. Like I said, maybe it's just my own personal biases. But, uh, I don't care for it.
Starting point is 00:23:10 It gives you a built in, um, sort of get out of jail car. sometimes, like they, no matter if they do something horrible, they can always be like, you know, I know the Lord will forgive me, or that's just my journey or whatever. And like, as you know, like most of the time when, and I know, I'm pretty sure that Jelly Rolls been about the Lord for a while. But if you see someone, a celebrity, all the sudden get super lordy Russell Brand, it's kind of like something's about to happen. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:23:38 Right. Yeah. But yeah, like with him, though, it's like the rehab thing, the addiction thing, whatever, a lot of people end up in the Lord's arms. And then they relapse. But so I don't fucking... The reason I brought it up to you and called him your boy and stuff is not because... It's because, like, you called it.
Starting point is 00:23:58 Yeah, I did. A while back on this show, like you said, you were like, I'm telling you all right now, a turn is coming. And at the time, I was like, ah, hell, everybody likes to tell you all, don't they? I said the same thing. And you were like, yeah, for now. So I'm just sort of giving you your crissue. credit, you know, because you saw it coming.
Starting point is 00:24:17 Well, you know, and what I was about to say relates to that, and thank you, you're a country music singer now. That's what you do. And like, let's stop talking about him like he's a product. Let's say all this is at least 80% real. You know what I mean? And I say 80% not to disparage him, but to be like, if you're an entertainer, you are going to go put on a show.
Starting point is 00:24:34 I mean, Trey has sleeves on right now. Like, let's not, I'm not trying to call him fake. I'm saying let's say that everything he does is 80% comes from this place of like who I am, who I want to be as an artist. country music genuinely in the Jesus now loves stand-up comedy and his friends are Andrew Schultz and Joe Rogan right right at some like giving him the biggest benefit of the doubt he would try to get them to like let's say let's say it was about ice see that what is going on doesn't actually line up with their supposed views on small
Starting point is 00:25:07 government do you understand what I'm saying like that's his home I mean it's like the opposite of how we kind of grew up, I guess me and Corey, of like, damn, we don't fit in here. For him, it's like,
Starting point is 00:25:17 he's found the place. He almost has to be right wing dog. And to some extent, this is an insult to the Democratic Party. The fucking porn star, ex-porn star girlfriend having Jesus-e country music singer ain't going to be welcome by the Democratic Party unless they lead with,
Starting point is 00:25:33 by the way, Jesus loved gays. Right. And again, it's not enough to just think that. You have to like lead with it for that to even be something interesting to, when I say the Democratic Party, I mean the powers that be, the people who pay your bills, to enter into that machine. He's entering into the Nashville machine. The Nashville machine
Starting point is 00:25:53 wouldn't know what to do with him if he weren't, at the very least, interested in having a conversation with the right wing. Well, and I think that's what makes him so attractive to the Daily Wire because I think they're looking at this from the perspective of, Every single person that works for the Daily Wire, Ben Shapiro, Candice, all those people, like, by their entire, this is intentional, their entire concept is to be combative and to say things that are going to get clicks and rile people up or whatever. And a lot of people, even that agree with them fundamentally are like, I'm so tired of this, you know, he said, you know, us against them, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:26:38 So they look at a jelly roll who can like, under the search. have their same beliefs and spit out their same talking points, except for coming from a place of love and understanding and trying to have a conversation and stuff. And they kind of need that for their brand to be like, oh, well, if Jellyroll can see it both ways, then it's fine because he's not on here just trying to get clicks and just trying to start arguments and end in everything with prove me wrong. You know what I mean? That is literally what I think is about to happen. Yeah, I will say this. If he is surrounded by the right people, and super super duper smart he might pull it off in a way that we people like us kind of respect right but
Starting point is 00:27:17 that would be genuinely impressive for anyone to do that to enter into that world to be doing events that's my prediction i think he's going to do that daily wire event right like the timing lines up he's going to announce it in the biggest clearest loudest voice you ever had you know what i mean maybe i'm wrong um what was i going to say oh but just you know to be around that and do it that way would be uh genuinely now to make them perceive you as that would be pretty simple and it makes you a lot of money right yeah he's i've only just i've seen like clips on social media he's one of the host of the new star search right on netflix yeah then and again because of that and what you were talking about tray of like damn is you really going to go work for kid rock
Starting point is 00:28:06 i think this is going to be a very like let's all come together thing but it is going to be coming from someone on the right side. And by the way, if that's sincere and he pulls it off well, it might be, I mean, I'm not going to call it good because I don't want everyone believing that, like, you need to listen to God first
Starting point is 00:28:24 because that, like, gets rid of abortion. You know what I mean? There's like, I have non-starter policies that I just can't, like, change. But it would be nice if the right kind of did take that turn into sweetness. I don't, you know, it won't work. He will not succeed in that.
Starting point is 00:28:41 but if he means it, that is sweet of him. Well, again, I haven't watched the other, but I've seen people, like, on Reddit and on the internet and stuff, say that on there, too. He very often turns it into, like, almost a full-blown, like, sermon situation. He gets really jesus. See, like, on that show, too. He's a great preacher. That's another thing that's, first of all, by the way, and I'm not saying they straight up, I know that they, the producers of that show, like, at, I'm not going to say they straight up asked me to be on it. They asked me if I would be interested in being on it.
Starting point is 00:29:09 And I said no, and I'm glad that I didn't now, especially, because I don't want to be, like, ripped apart by jelly roll on Netflix or whatever because there's no way I would hit for him. He would only rip you apart to see if there was nougat on the inside. Yeah, but that's, I'm saying that's another thing that I find surprising. I feel like for a long time, Netflix producers and people like that would have been like, hey, bro, love you, but like, can you chill with some of the, the Jesus stuff.
Starting point is 00:29:41 You know, like... They finally realized how much money they could make by not doing that. I don't know why it took him that long.
Starting point is 00:29:47 But like, dude, they finally gave... Leon Morgan has deserved a show for 15 goddamn years. Yeah. They're just now figuring it out.
Starting point is 00:29:57 I heard someone say this. I think it was the trail bill. Hey, we're canceling Roseanne. That's fine, but y'all do understand she gets replaced by another 10 years of cops.
Starting point is 00:30:06 Mm-hmm. Because there is money to be made by doing programming for people who are interested in that. Dude, fucking, what's the Ashton Couther's show? The Ranch? Yeah. It was like in the top five on Netflix, every year it was out.
Starting point is 00:30:22 Yeah. They just figured out that people do want, enough people in America do want that. Well, I mean, Landman, the whole Taylor Sheridan sphere. And by the way, those are, they're kind of different because, like, I mean, look, I'd be fucking with them. That's what that is, brother. It is libertarian porn, yeah. But like I can, it's still good, like it's, like the ranch to me was unwatchable. But Landman's not unwatchable.
Starting point is 00:30:48 But you're right that they have figured that out. And like also there's been a huge boom in like what I call airport library book shows. You know what I mean? Like just the, hey, what it? Like they figured out like John Grisham, you know, like, yeah, he does. He's very middle of the road. but like he's got it figured out these procedures or whatever. I think that it marks at this in the thread yesterday.
Starting point is 00:31:14 We were talking about it in there. But with that, I think it's like they realized that like, uh, fucking middle aged and up married couples who just, you know, sit on the couch and watch shit after the kids go to bed. Like those show,
Starting point is 00:31:27 because you're talking about like that, you know, it's all, it's all her fault or whatever it's called and the beast and me and the new John Bernthal one and all the, and fucking untamed to an extent, all these like murder shows with like they anyway they realize it like couples can watch that there's like shit in it for like the dude but also the girl yeah right and so and that's the
Starting point is 00:31:49 appeal of those so they're just fucking pumping those out and like the elevated super elevated versions that like david fencher's gone girl which was from a you know like an airport book right just gas uh i'm saying straight gas so yeah you can like that shit can go hard I mean, me and Katie watch a bunch of those, you know. But yeah, they definitely, they realized a formula there for sure. I think both the authors first and then, and then, you know, TV producers later. And I just think that what this is is them like calling their shot, them meaning him and his camp. And I hope there's, I think there's probably some sincerity to it.
Starting point is 00:32:29 Like I said, if you do believe in Jesus and you're singing country music, your home is going to be among some right-wing people. Did you see when he went on Theo? there's a guy who's done it. I mean, maybe that's, if you want an analogy, he's going to try to be Theo. It is very obvious that Theo is right wing. But what, like, sweet, like, it's not your fault, Theo? Do you know what I mean? Like, Theo's like a fucking, uh, insane rat king, hilarious dirtbag guy who is, who I know is also like he's, you know, I'm just listening.
Starting point is 00:33:02 I'm sweet. I'm folksy and all this stuff. I know that. Undeniable hilarious. Right. That's what I'm saying, but Theo is entertaining in a way. I'm talented as an artist. Jelly roll, as a musician.
Starting point is 00:33:16 And Theo's like, yeah, you cry a lot. Murdered me. Right. Yeah, but I'm saying jelly roll, I don't, to me, I don't see him having it like that as a, you know, talker and interviewer and stuff. And you have a special talent in my opinion. But I'm not talking about it. But that's because Theo's medium is podcast.
Starting point is 00:33:39 Joe's medium is 90-second clips of him crying in front of Congress. Right. Tell him people believe in him. That's true. He needs to be in doses. And in medium is, and speaking of medium in doses, that's the size he almost is now. He's on Ozzympic.
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Starting point is 00:37:22 you know what I'm like that are basically like if a gas station bathroom learned how to do autotone. I did not mean to be so. There will be a promise. Because we know some of people in his camp. But I just think that honestly, now that we've talked it out, he's just trying to be the space. I don't mean he's trying to beat Theo. Whatever space that is that Theo, dude, I got hardcore leftist free Palestine friends sending me Theo clips.
Starting point is 00:37:48 Theo had, dude. Super broad appeal. I love Theo. I love Theo too. While having Trump on. Yeah. While saying you should vote for Trump. That is exactly what Jellie Rose is about to try to do.
Starting point is 00:38:00 That's the difference. They try to be that. The difference between Theo and. like all, don't you're wrong. I don't agree with Theo having Trump on. I don't agree with him saddling up to all those dudes. I don't agree with none of that. But the difference between Theo and the Andrew Schultz and the Rogans or whatever is Theo never once tries to come across as if he knows what the fuck he's talking about, like at all. Like he is clearly there just for the jokes. Now, I don't know what he's saying when the cameras aren't rolling.
Starting point is 00:38:29 Has that not been outside of addiction, jelly roll's whole fucking personality? Kinda, yeah. I mean, I mean, I'm just saying like, and also, but again, though, like, when's the last time you actually, because we all know that Joe Rogan used to be a good comedian, and I've laughed at his stuff, I've defended his stuff. I cannot think of a single Joe Rogan stand-up Joe. I think Joe Rogan has an excellent actor. Whatever.
Starting point is 00:38:52 Whatever, regardless, regardless, regardless. But Joe Rogan, when's the last time you heard a podcast clip and Joe Rogan made you fucking laugh? Hardly not never. You could, if you sent me right. now the ranked 200th funniest thing Theo has ever said on his podcast. I bet it would still be one of the funniest things I've ever heard in my goddamn life. Like he at least puts comedy forward with everything. But what is your point in comparing that to Jethro? I mean, are you kind of saying Joe Rose not as good of a singer as Theo is being funny? No, no, I'm saying the only, the reason
Starting point is 00:39:25 I think that your friends don't mind sending you Theo stuff, whereas they wouldn't send you others that Theo never, all of those dudes have these guests on and immediately start acting like they know what's right and they have this opinion. And Theo doesn't. He just lets him talk and makes the jokes. Like Theo's, he is changing the climate. And I think people like Theo making J.D. Vance look human helped get those people elected. But like he's not on there just kissing their asses. He's just trying to be funny and therefore his clips are funny and he's more easily digestible. But two things, being funny around someone is kissing their ass, unless you're making fun of them. But two, I mean, I'm not super sure what your point is in terms of jelly roll.
Starting point is 00:40:14 Like, everything you said about Theo is true. I wasn't, I like, keep this focus on. But I wasn't. No, not at all. I'm not focused on Joe. My whole argument is he's trying to be Theo in that space. And everything you just said, I'm like, yeah, I think that's what he's going to. going to go for it. I was only responding to the fact that your leftist friends send you Theo
Starting point is 00:40:32 clips and I was suggesting why that was. That's all I was saying. Yeah, I feel like I know why that is and I'm trying to say, I think that that's what this guy's trying to do. And if it's sincere and he pulls it off, well, if he, look, if he, I'm just telling you right now, if he keeps up all the Jesus stuff, your leftist friends aren't going to be sending you fucking jelly roll. Theo talks about the Lord every, podcast. He's just funny. Well, dude, John Fuglesang just wrote a book about the Lord. John Fugle Seng just wrote a book about the Lord and like, and obviously
Starting point is 00:41:07 you're saying it's not the same. You're argument there is that he can't pull it off. I actually agree with you. I'm talking about what the goal is here. And you guys are like, he won't be able to do that. I thought we know. John Fugle's whole thing with the Lord is like highlighting how wrong American Christians have it. when they talk about the Lord or whatever. That's not the same thing.
Starting point is 00:41:30 No, it's not the same. Jelly Roll does the same shit that my new favorite person, Fernando Mendoza does, which is just fucking, you know, all glory to God. He's just, it's just God hits, God hit, love God. So I'm going to cry, fucking love God so much. I'm like, dude, that fucking that sucks. Yeah, but when I'm saying it, like when Theo talks about the Lord and church, like Steve Harvey hits talking about, he cracks me the fuck up when he ain't put a do knob on that.
Starting point is 00:41:55 Like, that shit's funny. But just pray. Amazing all the goddamn time. What I'm saying is somebody mentioned earlier about the let like considering Jesus himself was a complete leftist. It would behoove the Democrats to like lean into that and shit whereas they don't or whatever. But like if more people like Fugel saying, more comics would even if you're lying, talk about living your life for the Lord and sharing Jesus quotes or whatever and admitting that like, oh actually we do do that. Like I don't like when people use the Lord and then do something. some non-lord shit, you know, but it would be nice if we tried to take back Jesus, considering
Starting point is 00:42:33 Jesus would be more inclined to hang out with Bernie Sanders than he would fucking Trump, is all I'm saying. Yeah, and that's, I mean, yeah, I agree with all that. But, Drew, earlier you said when you're talking about Jailorough, you're like, I mean, we've already got Post Malone. So post Malone. He did some Ozzy Osbourne pretty good the other night. I don't know if you heard it.
Starting point is 00:42:54 He, what's he, what's up with him now? because, you know, I don't keep up with music and shit like that. But over the years, at first, when Postmodern first come out, I was like, well, I don't care for this. But then over the years, I saw all these, like when he bought that magic, the gathering card off that nerd kid and all these like things, all these moments, interviews and stuff. And he seemed like a, in a jelly,
Starting point is 00:43:15 a old kind of way, seemed like a good dude, like a nice guy who's not a narcissistic, ego maniac or whatever. And then I even started kind of fucking with some of his music a little more. Yeah, me too. for a little bit. Sunflowers my jam. Yeah, that sounds great.
Starting point is 00:43:31 But he also is like pivoting lately, isn't he? That's why him and jailed. He pivoted like two years ago, maybe three. Right. Which unfortunately just means going to country. The thing about that is I know that he's from Texas
Starting point is 00:43:42 and he tried to do country first and it didn't work. So I feel like you can make a case that he always wanted to be a country person from the very beginning. But like, and he thought, you know, he thought he couldn't. So he tried something else.
Starting point is 00:43:55 And then that hit. And then he went back. to his first love or whatever. Like trying to air with blues. Is any of the politics shit, is any of that? Is he doing any of that? Or is it literally just? I mean, I don't, like, again, this started because I called it with Jelly Row.
Starting point is 00:44:09 I do not keep up with this shit. Yeah. I'm like, unfortunately, I'm fucking eyeball deep in the Epstein files. And even that, I'm not wanting to be. I just almost feel like I have to, weirdly. You know what I mean? but like, I don't think Post Malone's made. I think he's tried to remain as apolitical as possible.
Starting point is 00:44:32 But again, when you're in rap, you kind of have to be a certain way. And when you're in country, you almost have to be. There are exceptions, but it's like unless you're going to climb a fence to fistfight, whoever, I don't even remember who Zach Bryan tried to fist fight, like you're just going to be on the bill. Post Malone, oh, Post Malone's doing a show with Kid Rock. he is. You think Beyonce's going to do a show with him?
Starting point is 00:44:58 Everybody always harkens back to when they talk about things like this. They're like, oh, well, the reason Johnny Carson was great was because you never knew his politics. And Elvis, you never knew his politics and all these people, and you never knew their politics or whatever. And it's like, well,
Starting point is 00:45:13 if you look back at some of their personal lives, their tabloids and stuff, I think I could probably gather what they were, you know. But I don't think that people can just fully understand that like look man with social media and with especially with all the stuff going on we don't really live in that world right now where you get to be a political and have everyone respect you because honestly nothing pisses me off more than someone who can look at every single thing going on right now
Starting point is 00:45:45 and remain a centrist like it's almost more of a crime to me than when you stand up even for something I don't believe in. It's like this all warrants giving your opinion about it. And I know that maybe you didn't sign up to give your opinions about thing and maybe you don't write it in your art. But like, you just come off as an aloof asshole when you go, well, both sides this, both sides that. And we don't live in the Johnny Carson world anymore. Yeah. I do think that, I mean, I know this is not what you're saying at all. But I've seen some clips of like, athletes like Wimbledon or something happened. Everybody's getting asked about it right now, pretty much.
Starting point is 00:46:27 Of course they are. No matter what you do. And I saw, there's this like, I think he's Filipino maybe. I don't know. Sorry. Some kind of Asian child of immigrants who's a tennis player got asked about it and wouldn't say anything. And there were some people being like, you know, what is this about?
Starting point is 00:46:41 And other people being like, well, dude, fucking, you know, you might not want to put a target on his fucking, you know, Tita's back or whatever. and all you hear about people like black you know people of color Minneapolis like won't leave their house and shit like that so like I think that it you know very much depends like there's you know some people might stay out of it because you know they're safety afraid yeah right yeah yeah as white yes and white people be stepping up right now in my opinion but I don't have white people get we I don't think I think what
Starting point is 00:47:18 Corey just said was true for you. I don't think the world, like you don't respect those people, right? But I'm about to give you an example of someone who has remained completely neutral, who I think it's because their views probably align very right. And that doesn't mean they support ICE. It's just like they know that that's their fans. And he hasn't,
Starting point is 00:47:41 not only has he not lost a goddamn fan by remaining neutral, he is the biggest stand-up in the world right now. That is Nate Bargotsie. Nate Bargazzi, we know, is pretty right-wing-leaning compared to, like, us. Yeah. But he's not talking like he is. So my point being, like, I do think there's an argument to be made against what you just said in terms of, like, you might not respect people who are remaining neutral right now, but I think America still.
Starting point is 00:48:12 Yeah, they do, for sure. I think centrism, and I think centrism right now is almost to a moment. man or a right winger in this moment. Sure. There's a ton of people, as we know, people that even with shit is insane, apparently it doesn't matter how insane shit gets. There's always going to be a ton of people who just will not engage with it, right? No matter what, they like, they don't want to, they don't want no part, you know, they don't vote.
Starting point is 00:48:40 They don't know shit. They like proudly don't know shit. They want it kept away from them. There's a shitload of those people. And all of those people, any kind of entertainer. anything that they consume or whatnot. They're very much the like, I like this until politics got brought into it.
Starting point is 00:48:55 Like the last thing they want is for a comedian that they like to even mention politics, you know, and a ton of those people probably fucking love Nate and, you know, guys like that. So they're probably the biggest cohort of Americans, really, is those people. It's just at a certain point, it does feel like, you know, being a centrist and oh, I don't talk about that stuff or whatever.
Starting point is 00:49:16 I think it's two different things. me personally, I think there's people, I don't think that everybody in the group that I just named as a centrist, I think a lot of them are just apathetic or almost afraid, even, and so they're not like, a centrist is like, to me, someone who is at least somewhat engaged with it and makes the decision to play the middle as opposed to like, I don't know, I don't do politics, I don't do politics. That's fair, but if you, if you, there's people I know who won't say anything about publicly and it's like, I know in real life, they're against ICE and they're against all this stuff,
Starting point is 00:49:47 but they wouldn't say anything publicly. And to me, silence is saying, I mean, I'm at least fine with it. Like, I don't have a strong enough opinion on it. Like, being silent is, like silence is sort of siding for the oppressors, in my opinion. Like, if you don't say anything, it means I'm apathetic to it. It doesn't matter. And therefore, I'm just not going to say anything, which to me means you're siding with the bad guys. That's how I feel.
Starting point is 00:50:16 I know I might not be right. You think either me or Drew is going to fucking argue with that. Of course. Yeah, who the fuck would argue? Of course we agree with you. Well, I'm not here. I felt like you just got a little sanctimonious towards me and him about that. I didn't think that at all.
Starting point is 00:50:31 Honestly, I felt like it was like almost like a, uh, it was a little awshuck. I think it's because he's trying to be the jelly roll of the left, dude. No, I didn't say he's going to be the jelly roll of left. You got a little awashy at the end. Fucking, of course that's cowardice. My only point was I don't think. people agree with that last part. I don't think people would call them cowards.
Starting point is 00:50:50 I think a lot of people agree with you, but they're like, but I get like, Brian Regan don't do that. Yeah. This goes back to the very beginning of this podcast, but when we brought up jelly roll and me saying, like, that's the conventional wisdom and has been for years, is that if you want to be at that level,
Starting point is 00:51:08 at that mainstream, let Nate Bargat hosting fucking network CBS Christmas specials and shit every year, right? You don't. You just don't do it. And it used to not be like that, though. Like used to.
Starting point is 00:51:18 What? No, I'm saying. You started this by saying it used to like Johnny Carson and everybody. I know that. No, back then, but I'm saying there was a while in the 2000s, like the Obama times is what I'm talking about. Really, there was a time when it was like, you and hell, people said it all the time. It's like, unless you were sidling up to Democrats, you couldn't get any work or
Starting point is 00:51:35 whatever. I don't like you being openly Democrat didn't hurt your career at all. A lot of people would go, yeah, I don't agree with their politics, but their movie was good. Like, it has shifted. Like, during the Obama years, you would never worry about that. And you still would get to host the Emmys. You still would. But now it's different.
Starting point is 00:51:52 Do you know why? Who are you telling? Do you know why? I showed up out here thinking, like, well, I got it. I know. Do you know who did that? We're finding out. Ricky Jervais.
Starting point is 00:52:03 Epstein. Epstein, yeah. Epstein and a lot, like, a lot of those emails, they're literally, like, he had a meeting with the founder of 4chan the day. Paul Paul yeah politics started
Starting point is 00:52:18 like he literally was like we've got to get American politics and culture back to tribalism is the only way we can take advantage of these people the way that we want to and so speaking of not
Starting point is 00:52:29 wanting to be silent and being silent as a coward it is very clear to me at this point that our entire system is rotten anyone who enters it with like a good heart will have no power
Starting point is 00:52:40 and can't get it and it's I'm over that I mean that's why I do I don't know if Jelly Rose is sincere guy or not I haven't met him but if he is and he is trying to this fucking let him but if he's working with those ghouls
Starting point is 00:52:54 and the Daily Wire that's what they are and not just because I disagree with what their politics are because they don't even have any. They're just trying to make money It's a great. Do you see that with John Christ talking about going to Tucker Carlson's Christmas party? No I almost felt sorry for him.
Starting point is 00:53:11 It went super viral and he was talking about how like What do you say? He's talking to his producer and he's like, I'll tell you this. They're all friends. You know, you think this was in the height of the split inside
Starting point is 00:53:24 that alt-right world over Charlie's death where Candace and her camp were like, someone murdered him, this is bullshit, and at the very least, they're making money off his name. And the other camp was like, this is an opportunity
Starting point is 00:53:36 to get TPSUA, USA behind J.D. Vance and all that. And then she was like, that's fucking gross. and also y'all killed him. And then he was like, yeah, they're not mad at each other, none of them. I'm at the party. Tucker is yelling about how some people in the GOP are letting Israel destroy the party.
Starting point is 00:53:55 And then the same people he's yelling about her at his party and he's hugging him and they're laughing. And they're just doing it to make money. This is their new conflict where they, it's wrestling beef. It's quite literally professional wrestling. And the heels and the baby faces, yeah, they can't be seen riding around in the same car together. And it's still real. to me, he was like, who's sad? That guy hates me, boy.
Starting point is 00:54:18 He fucking hates me. The real to me guy or Chris? The real to me guy. The real to me guy. You didn't say that? I think you were maybe dealing with getting your car out of the car. Oh, my guy. I remember reading that I was dealing with my car.
Starting point is 00:54:29 I was, I was, yeah. He fucking got into a fight. It's still real. That guy? Like two days ago. This is, yeah, this is a very,
Starting point is 00:54:39 this is a very quick, files. Go on. This is a very quick story, but like, I was working on my wrestling show that I'm helping write and produce or whatever, and we were at a fan cast, and that guy was there, and they were like, Corey, you need to do some man on the street
Starting point is 00:54:54 stuff with him. And I've been, and I've been up front with the entire production team. I was like, I'm not, that's not a skill of mine I have to do man on the street stuff. I don't really like it. I said, but if you need this for me, I will. But my whole thing is like, I'm the comedian, and that guy's otherwise boring. He's
Starting point is 00:55:10 known he's known for that thing and he was a nice enough guy but anyways he were sitting there talking i review him how how much does it mean you to be here blah blah blah blah blah and then he brings up abdua the butcher for some reason and he goes so i was hanging out with abdul of the butcher not long ago and to which i just quipped real quick i said did he stab you in the head with a fork and give you hepatitis c and that because that's the thing abdula the butcher did that's the thing abdil the butcher did well i the guy immediately goes literally literally yeah yeah he you, yeah, like, knew he had Hep C and did a bunch of blood shit. Did a bunch of blood stuff on the mat or whatever.
Starting point is 00:55:45 And like, and the guy fucking immediately, he takes the microphone off and goes, fuck you, this interview's over. And I'm like, immediately. I mean, I'll show you the footage immediately. And I go, I go, whoa, whoa, I was just, and everyone around is going like, dude, he's a comedian. He's just saying he goes, he goes, you will not disrespect have to deal with a butcher. He was a good friend of mine.
Starting point is 00:56:04 He is a, and I'm sitting there. And I can't quit. I don't even know what I'm saying, but I can't quit hitting. I'm just making fun of him. some of my, I'm like, are you fucking serious for me right now? And he's like, he's like, I don't want to fucking talk to you. And so anyways, JBL has
Starting point is 00:56:17 to come over there and break it up and be like, guys, we're just shooting a segment here. Like, everything's okay. And anyways, I took the mic off and then went to that guy and I said, hey, I said, I am very sorry I offended you. I didn't know it was going to go like that. And please
Starting point is 00:56:33 understand that I didn't say that to get a rise out of you for TV. Like, I was like, we're not going to show this and we're not going to. I was like, we're not going to show this. I said, I can't stop you from being mad at me, but just to you know, that wasn't what I was trying to do. And anyways, it ended or whatever. And yeah, we, but yeah, you just happened to bring up that guy and we really, and at one point, it kind of looked like he was starting to bow up a little bit. And I was like, this seems like it would be like hitting a kid. Like, I don't know. It's real to him, dude.
Starting point is 00:57:03 It's what I do. It was funny to cry about the moves being fake and then get mad about the disease. being real. Right. I know. It was weird. And I thought he'd have a better, well, it's not even that I thought he'd have a better sense of humor. It took 0.2 seconds for that to come into my brain and out of my mouth. You know what I mean? Like, I wasn't thinking. I just like, he said, I'm doing the butcher. I thought of a rib. And I said it. And that's all there is to. And I was like, God, I wasn't, that wasn't planned. I didn't come here to piss you off. It's just, it's just very funny to me because of how raven it it, that that guy like takes it all real seriously, which is, you know, real on brand for him.
Starting point is 00:57:39 He has one thing. But he was a sweetheart, and we made... And he lives by it. And we made up. We made up. I don't think that, you know, we'll ever share a drink together or anything. But, like, he apologized for going... He's like, I'm sorry, I should have...
Starting point is 00:57:52 But I apologize to him, but, like, they're really good friends and, you know, whatever. Well, him happened. That's proved to me that Abdulah the butcher deserves all the flak he's getting. Is that one of his greatest friends in the world is the guy who's got famous for crying as a 40-year-old about... That ain't true. I bet. That guy just said, but that dude, that's even funny.
Starting point is 00:58:11 You will not disparate, well, dude, I was him yelling, you will not disparage, Abdulah the butcher. Reminded me immediately of that, that line from that old sketch we did in that group of awful sketches where me is that
Starting point is 00:58:22 British professor got very upset and yelled, I will not stand idly by while some daft pilock, son is the good name of Chingi. Cheeney, yeah. That sketch was so good. We got to redo it.
Starting point is 00:58:35 Chingi is the Abdullah of the butcher. Right. That's what I'm saying. That's what immediately made me think of when you said that guy actually said that unironically. Speaking of rappers and MAGA finally got to see exactly what the Nikki Minaj stuff was all about. Because, you know, usually when somebody just all the sudden flips Republican in this day and age, we know it's like, oh, they're going to come out as a sex pest or yada yada, yada, something, yada yada, yada. Well, Nikki Minaj just recently was given her gold card from Trump granting her citizenship. ship, by the way. And I don't know if you know this, but a lot of people in Nikki Minaj's family are registered pedophiles. So, um, Nikki Minaj got her gold card. She is now a citizen so everyone can put to rest why exactly it was that she all the sudden started sidling up to Trump. Am I saying
Starting point is 00:59:24 sidling correct? Yeah, I think so. Okay, right on. Siding up to, yeah. Yeah. It'd have been known they're fucking kids, dude. I don't know what to say. Right. Well, I was going to ask, I know we don't have a lot of time left, but the, the Q&N part of all this is like, brother, wild to me, because on the one hand, I feel like, when I first found out about Q&N and everything, I made so many, on so many podcasts,
Starting point is 00:59:48 and I made videos and stuff talking about how insane and stupid it all is. And so much of it, I mean, still is and was, part of it was that fucking Donald Trump was the Captain America of the whole situation. Part of it was that JFK Jr. from the fucking dead. And so, like, a lot of it was,
Starting point is 01:00:04 was still, very, very, very stupid, but like the underlying foundational thing of this like shadowy global cabal of fucking billionaire pedophiles or whatever, that ending up being true. Right. And them not dunking on people like me because their main guy is like part of it is just such a fun. And then and then people being like, and I wonder this too. things are so crazy it's making me for like a conspiracy theorist
Starting point is 01:00:38 I start wondering like was fucking QAnon like a sciop to make it It's in the files It is The whole thing For the beginning You know
Starting point is 01:00:46 It's in the files It's literally in the files I mean you said that Epstein Met with the 4chan people And that's where this came from Yeah he also met with that dude That everyone thinks is Q Who was always
Starting point is 01:00:58 Who was already we knew he was me I can't remember his name Him and his son It's in the files It was literally There's a term for it in the CIA world, Epstein's probably pretty clearly a massad, if not agent. Asset.
Starting point is 01:01:13 There's even a term for it in that world where you show people a version of what you're doing, but it's murky and insane so that when people see what you're doing, they're like, we already wrote this off, dude. We already wrote this off. Well, especially if it comes from that particular type of people. I wrote it off immediately, I was like, these fucking dips. I've had so much. I've been, this is what I've been wanting to get into.
Starting point is 01:01:36 So three things. One, Andy said a similar thing to me yesterday. And I was like, how do we know? I keep seeing online a version of this. Why are they not dunking on us? Yeah, right, yeah. How do we know that? Because the only reason I knew what Q&M was saying in the first place
Starting point is 01:01:54 is because of people like yourself dunking on them, deservedly so. And to some extent, Alex Jones. Outside of Alex Jones, I didn't know who anyone was from that. world other than people talking about them, right? And then they started to make the news, et cetera, et cetera. Surely to God. Surely to God, some of them are doing a victory lap right now, Trey. Sure. I have to believe that. Number two, these people have very, very, very weird brains. They don't actually want to be right about the thing that's old. Right. They're already moving on to this is a conspiracy to take down Don because he's getting like they're nuts. It's a blind squirrel,
Starting point is 01:02:34 situation. Right. And then the third point, I've already made it because I got too hype, and this is to me the final biggest point, though, was like, QAnon itself was part of, like, the cover up.
Starting point is 01:02:46 Right. That's in there. And I know I sound crazy. And I'm sorry to pat myself on the back here. No. I put a bit out that I did at our show in Nashville. I opened with this. What's up?
Starting point is 01:02:58 How's everybody doing? How's it going? Remember when those were innocuous questions, you weren't afraid of the answer? Anyone else feel fucking crazy? The most insane person in your life in the last eight years was right. And I don't want to look them in the goddamn eye right now. Your friend from community college was like,
Starting point is 01:03:18 yo, there's a global pedophagaball around the world. And you're like, please get away from my children and stop talking to me. But it turns out they were right. Right. But it's their guys. There's this. See, I feel it's our guys too. Or at least, I know.
Starting point is 01:03:30 For at least a lot of them, I think, that it was like, they were right, except they kind of weren't, because I think for a lot of them, the most important part of it was that it was specifically and exclusively and only a left-wing pedophile ring that heroes like Donald Trump were trying to combat. Right. And when it comes out, though there is a pedophile ring, they don't really care about that much or that part as much as,
Starting point is 01:04:04 the other, but they didn't really care about kids being diddled. They cared that a fucking rich, powerful leftists were diddling them. And now that, and I know that some of them are. For sure. But that, but I just can't believe that's completely true. I don't think it's true for all of them. I think it's, I think it's definitely true for plenty of them, though. Okay, but the top people in Q&M were in on it is what I'm telling you.
Starting point is 01:04:25 It's like a reverse. Like that was part of it. But let me finish this point. The top people in Q&M were in on it, the cover up, like, they were part of this. So I'm saying the people right below that, how do I know they're not doing a victory lap? On what universe would I follow them? I just can't believe that. And I know you're like, yeah, sure, some of them.
Starting point is 01:04:47 I think it's a lot of them, but it's not getting algorithm traction. Also, Q&N got more and more kind of mainstream, right, on the right wing. So there's been a lot of like right wing people who maybe were not like full blown or their main thing wasn't Q&N, but we're still like Epstein. files, liberal pedophiles, whatever, they're still about that, who have, like, publicly tried to backpedal and downplay it and fucking how old is 15 really and all that type of shit? It's like, there's been plenty of that. Like, because for those people, it was just the pro wrestling, my team, your team, part of it. It was never about the actual kids.
Starting point is 01:05:21 But for the hardcore, true believer nutbag Q&N people are right. I mean, you're probably right. I'm sure there's- Okay, two things. I want to give Robbie Sloat credit for the coolest, funniest point, which was like... Who's Robbie Sloat? he writes for the day of show. He's my buddy. He's the rap for the day of the show.
Starting point is 01:05:36 I don't know if he still does. He's my buddy who's a comedian in New York. He also, well, it doesn't matter. I'm going to butcher it. I tried to find it. It was basically like, hey, Q and On, you remember how you're like,
Starting point is 01:05:50 there's a whole pedophagabal ball running the world, and Donald Trump's going to be the one to take it down? You have no idea how right you were. Right. Or no, Donald Trump's at the center of it, of taking it down. That sort of monkey
Starting point is 01:06:03 Paul, you know, it's probably offensive to say this, but that like gypsy curse of like Donald Trump is responsible. I thought that that's. Yes, the monkeys. For Alex Jones, it's very much been a monkeys paw curling situation. So I looked it up. I wanted to know what he was going to do with it. He's literally saying, told you so, but they're lying about Trump. Right. Right. It's all true, except for this part. mind-blowing to me. I don't, like, as a business decision or on a human level, I really, I can't wrap my head around that. The second thing I wanted to say, well, how funny would it be if in a week Jelly Row comes out and says loudly, proudly, and clearly, 14 should be the age of consent, and that's the only politics he wants to get involved. Finally, somebody says it.
Starting point is 01:06:56 Yeah, that would be wild. Okay, well, fucking existence is a nightmare. That's it. I guess for this week's episode of Well Red. So, plugs. Come see me on the road, Birmingham and Atlanta this month, February. And then Denver and a bunch of other. Drew, when are you in Denver and March?
Starting point is 01:07:16 Do you know? I am in Denver and March. That would be the last weekend. Okay. I'm there, the aides of March. I'll be in, well, I've been, whatever. I'm in Colorado in the middle of. the most of Trey Crowder.com.
Starting point is 01:07:32 Treycrowder.com for all the tickets. Comedy works on the 13th and 14th and then Steamboat Springs on the 15th. So that'll be fun. I'll be in Denver two weeks after Trey. Yeah, well, keep going. I'm done. Treycrouter.com.
Starting point is 01:07:49 Corey and I have a show in Athens to Georgia on February 15th. There are only like 20 tickets left last I checked, which was two days ago. So if you're interested in seeing us, Mike Cooley, frontman, Cofront Man on the Drive-By Truckers is going to host. I told him to tell some stories if you wanted. I hope he does.
Starting point is 01:08:03 If you're interested in that, come through. If you're not, I really don't know why you'd even listen to this podcast. I mean, that's unbelievable. I'm mad. I can't go to the show. Me too. That's February 15th. Let's see, March, 27.
Starting point is 01:08:14 I got Denver. The weekend after that, first weekend of April, I'm in Bristol, Tennessee. That's about all I got right now. Yeah. Sorry to everybody. The show I was supposed to do in Asheville this weekend was postponed due to the weather, so I hope everybody is safe. Postpone Malone. I hope everybody is safe, and obviously those tickets will go towards when we announce the new date.
Starting point is 01:08:38 I've also been saying something wrong for a while, and it's been brought to my attention. I will be in Atlanta at the punchline March 29th. I was saying the 19th, but it's the 29th. I'm an idiot. So March 29th, I'll be at the punchline in Atlanta. Come see me and Drew, February 15th at hinder shots. It's going to be a blast. And as always, Corey writes for you.com. That is my substack. Thank you all for this week.
Starting point is 01:09:05 You got me up to number 15 in the bestsellers. Only seven away from Dave Barry. I'm coming for you, Dave Barry. We have a feud that only I know exists. Corey writesfor you.com. Daily diaries, daily essays, audio stuff. It's a lot of fun.
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