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Episode Date: February 19, 2025

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It's going to be coming at you fast and furious this week. Drew is absent. He's apparently his computer exploded and his phone is dead as as often happens in these these trying technological times of ours. Cho is with me in body and spirit, but not in voice really, Cho. Not really. Did you all hear that? Could you even hear that?

Can you hear him? I think my microphone is good enough for them to hear me. But it seems really bad. He's not method acting as like. like a sensual romance novel narrator or something like that. He just can't talk. So it's a good, it's a good affliction to have when you're,

you know, going to record a podcast. Yeah, right. Yes. Also, we got, are you think that's going to be better about tomorrow?

Because we have a POA tomorrow. I hope here's what I'm thinking. So I was, I was thinking that I was just going to come on here and tell you two motherfuckers. hey this is what I sound like bye you know see enjoy record tell me when you're done right but Drew's a piece of fucking shit

he lives in a fucking trailer park with a bunch of dumb asses so of course that can't fucking happen right so the only thing I can think is like dude yeah tomorrow you know what I'm gonna do take 90 fucking milligrams of amphetamines and drink fucking whiskey

like a pirate and yes I don't do it. I think pirates prefer rum. But yeah, but that'll that will be interesting. I will tell you, you probably had this experience before too,

but I, one time, because I, you know, I'm dumb as fuck and everything, obviously. We started like touring heavily, and I just went out

and just was going out and doing 45 minutes or whatever of stand up every night and we're doing a lot of shows, multiple shows of nights, sometimes everything else. And my voice started fucking up on me. And like,

people at the venues and the clubs and stuff would be like, What are you doing for that? And I would be like, what are you talking about? What you can do things for that? What is that made? I was like, my voice just don't hit.

I've just got to have a not hitting voice now. And they were like, no, there's things you should be taking care of your voice. If you use it professionally, you know, like there's exercises and warmups you can do. There's tea specifically for that. You can drink and home remedies and all this stuff. And I was like, well, first I'm hearing of that. One time, this is what I'm getting to. I went to a, I was doing a thing for attention media as we used to do.

And I was doing a series for them and we were going to shoot the whole series in one day. And I came back from one of those runs and I had lost my voice on the run. I got back on Monday. We were supposed to film this on Tuesday in Hollywood. And I get there on Tuesday. And I told them beforehand, I was like, look, guys, I'm sorry. I didn't mean for this to happen. But my voice is fucked.

I sound like, you know, I sound a little bit better than you do, but it was still pretty bad. And they were like, well, you know, if you, and I told them, I was like, I'm down to try to push through it, you know, and they were like, well, we are too because we got a schedule. So let's give it a shot. And I went there and like, we tried, they made some tea and we did some stuff or whatever. And it's like, and nothing was really working. And they're all, this is their job. They work at this. It's a startup. But they work there and it's the daytime. And it finally, it was like everybody was dancing around getting a bottle of whiskey, right? But nothing was like working and we all wanted to get it done. And I was like, I mean, shit, you know, it's worth a shot. And they were like, yeah, so somebody went and bought a bottle of whiskey and brought it in there. And I'd be damned. That like that fixed it right up pretty much immediately. Now, it came back later with a vengeance, obviously.

But that doesn't matter. Right. But see, that's so the issue that I'm having is that I know that would work. And I know that would work right now. Yeah. But I would never heal. I would just keep fucking doing that. Yes.

Like what I need to do is not talk, drink a bunch of tea, stop drinking milk, you know. Like fucking, you know, my gut, correct. Yeah. From Dreamgirls or from years. Because she's a professional singer and she's like, yeah, I care about my voice. And I'm like, me and you, we won't even, we won't even take Sudafed on the road. we're just like hey guess it don't end

yeah one way you can maybe make a hit is you could do a cover of the whisper song by yin-yang twins that's true hey how you doing liberal queers let me whisper in you hear

tell me some stuff to Democrats don't want to hear like we fucking suck it politics we ain't gonna win every type body going to die that's all I got yeah there you go dude those motherfuckers are so funny

like they're so funny the yin-yang twins they're yes yeah no shit like you forgot I think sometimes you forget because it's just like oh yeah they got good shake your ass music but it's like no but also like if you're trying to laugh your ass on they also real funny

well again it was just you know a different time but I mean I guess you know Trump's trying to bring that time back I guess uh apart but you know you would think I thought comedy was coming back. Right. But all the news today is about fuck Tom Hanks for telling a, you know, joke on Saturday Night Live. I can't believe he did this racist character eight years ago.

Did you see this? No, I don't know what you're talking about. I knew that the SNL 50 had happened, but I ain't seen literally nothing from it. He brought back. Oh, yeah, that was, that's a classic. It's a classic. It's a classic. Everybody loved that.

Everybody loved that. And it wasn't even, like, funny. It's not that he don't want to shake hands with a black guy. It's that he's afraid the black guy's going to rob him. Right. That's funny and should every all, right? But no. Because they say Trump,

he, Tom Hanks for some reason, represents every Trump supporter, even though Keenan doesn't represent every black person. It's very weird. It's very telling that they're upset about it because it's like, I usually don't get upset about things unless I know they about me.

Right. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Well, to be completely, fair to that last statement. You also often interpret many, many things to be about you. And then proceed to get upset about those things. That's very true. That's fair. We're talking about this day-to-day life stuff, though, not like performances and whatnot. It's funny and not surprising this has happened.

I'm saying what somebody talks about, blue-haired, insane liberals. I'm like, they ain't talking about me. I don't get my head. I don't care. It's funny if this has come up again already, because last, what you were texting me yesterday, some stuff that your buddy had sent you, I guess, some screenshots of last, early last week, I went on Pierce Morgan show, which is like political Jerry Springer or whatever, and it's one of those, I'm just

like, I'm not really into that whole thing at all. But, but, I wanted you to go. But I don't, I also can't say no to stuff. Of course not. Your career's in no position. Right, exactly. You're not in no position.

I say anything. Yes. No one is calling but Pierce Morgan. But Pierce Morgan, yes. A fucking phone. So I went and did it. And one of the things that he talked specifically to me about, and it hit for me, I was glad because I felt like I was ready for it. But like right before that happened, like last weekend, Chelsea Handler, I guess, hosted like the critics' choice. Some award show, but not like, not the, you know, not the Oscars.

Right. Or the Golden Gloves or Emmys, I don't think. I think it was one of the less. Spirit. which makes it, which makes it funnier, in my opinion, but, uh, but she had hosted that and she said on there. Right. It was the critics choice board.

So like, again, that makes it funnier to me because it's like, he's paying attention to that. Who gives a fuck about the critics or their choices? But on that, while hosting that during her monologue, making various jokes, she was like, I don't remember how she put it. And also, I would not have even have gotten this joke if I didn't have the other context, because I've never seen or heard of this movie. There's a movie called Anora, right?

Yeah, I didn't know either. It's one of those... Animated. I don't think so. It's one of those critical darling. I fucking hate those now. I'm so glad. I'm so glad that I have a child.

Well, apparently it ended up winning best picture at said Critics Choice Awards. But I think it's about a... So she said something like... I mean, I'm going to get it wrong, but it was something like... it's a great year for representation and media. You had something, something for some people. You had Amelia Perez for the trans community.

And you had Onora for Melania Trump, right? That's what she said. Now, I didn't know because I don't know anything about that movie, but apparently Anora is about prostitutes, right? Or at least a prostitute, right? Again, I wouldn't even have got it. But that's what she said. So one of the things they asked me about in that show was,

was that and they're like he and the conservatives are like incensed about it right it's so disrespectful to say about a first lady and you know it's just like something it's like can you imagine someone saying something like that about like a Democratic first

lady in that kind of setting or whatever and I Star-Lary Clinton's a fucking cut I don't know if this setting is what you're talking about fuck her I hope she dies in one of these Delta planes I said a shoo wait don't and literally don't get me started on the Delta planes crashing.

I don't really mean that. I'm a diamond medallion, Million Miller. I'm pretty concerned about that. But anyway, I said, I started off by saying it's like, well, as a comedian,

I can tell you most comedians would agree that conservatives tend to be very thin-skinned and easily offended. They're not good at taking jokes or kind of, they're overly sensitive if you ask me. And me, as a comedian, I'm a huge free speech advocate. I believe in the First Amendment.

And I think you should be able to make jokes and not be, you know, and not be persecuted for or whatever else. And then he, he, he, he goes, he was like, it was, there's got to be, you know that list of logical fallacies that they have where it's like, you know, confirmation bias, the Gish Gala, straw man argument, whatever. I'm assuming this has to be on there. I just don't know what it's called or if it is and it should be. But what he then started doing is he was like, he's so narrowly defined his like, gotcha that it was like, he was like, okay, but give me an example of a time that a conservative comedian. made a joke like that about a Democratic First Lady

on a national award show or whatever. And I was like, well, I don't know about that, but people said all kinds of shit about Michelle Obama for years or whatever. And he was like, okay, but he kept naming those same three criteria. And I was like, I can't tell you a specific example of that. God damn it, was it Tim Allen at the Emmys? What are you? I can't talk.

I can't talk. I've been waiting on you. That's what I texted you that he can't talk. He's lost his voice, like, legit. legitimately, but, uh, I thought it was, Drew is here. Drew is here, everybody, but, um, I don't know how, but it's intolerable.

I know. I don't want to be it. Stop it. Like, it's awful. Like, you would think if somebody was, you know what I mean? Like, quieter is better. Yeah. He did leave, but I don't know how, whatever, we'll figure that out.

I think he left, he just walked away from the computer. I'm just, he's the host, so I'm concerned about it uploading, but I'm sure he's got a plan for that. I'll message him while you continue. Although he will have to turn it off, though. But anyway, whatever. Well, figure that out later. Anyway, I was saying that because he brought up that Tom Hanks is getting shit on today.

Did you know that? Did you know that? Did you know that? Because he played a MAGA character who wouldn't touch a black person? Yes, but it's that he just told me all this. I didn't know any of it. But the MAGA character is a reprisal of that character from that very popular sketch that he did years ago, the Black Jeopardy sketch or whatever, that everybody loved at the time.

and now he's redone it. And now they're like, yeah, it's racist against magas or whatever. And it's like, uh, and, um, so anyway, then I was talking about how just the week before that Chelsea Handler should have happened and he asked me about it on Pierce Morgan. And it's just the whole, you know, I mean, it's been pointed out a million times, but it's just so funny when that, you know, every, everyone at this point and realize everybody who isn't them realizes that the people that talk about like, Snowflake, and, you know, the super sensitive left and all that shit.

It's like no one is more hair trigger easily offended than conservatives are. Like, as long as you're being openly racist, whatever, they're like, yeah, you should be able to say whatever you want. But if you start making like Jesus jokes or a really relatively tame Melania Trump joke apparently or whatever, then they get furious. But it's also like if you get rid of, you know, they announce that thing. Any scholarships that help black or brown people are now gone. And like I understand that you can make an argument that that's not racist, not one I agree with, but I understand they exist. But then, but then like hear a joke about MAGA being racist and go, where are you getting that from? It's just genuinely insane.

Like, again, you may not think that that move is racist, but you pull that move and then that joke comes up and you go, what? I know hindsight's 2020. I'm not trying to like money, money, quarterback yet. But I think what I'd like to see, and genuinely, you're one of the people who could do it, both in terms of getting the opportunity to be in a space with Pierce Morgan, but then also get asked a question like that and then like your character or whatever, both the one you play on the internet and your character. I wish you'd just be like, I don't know, man, I think you guys could be in pussies.

This is a boring conversation, Pierce. Like, genuinely. Like, no offense to you, big guy, but like, what? Yeah. But like, let's make a list of things. we should be discussing about our country, whether it be at the international or national level, at this exact moment. Is this it?

The award show? Right. And people being a pussy about it? Yeah. I didn't call him a pussy and I should have, but I was trying to, I mean, I was saying it's like a version of it's bullshit that you shouldn't get offended by any jokes or whatever. And again, I kept bringing up the First Amendment and all this. And then the two conservative women, it was two liberal cracker dudes, me and another white honky live. Lib-Tard, and then two women, conservatives, one of which was black.

So, you know, they're really making an effort over there with how they structure things for that show. And he asked me first, because I'm a comedian, and I said all that. And I feel like because of the way I framed it, maybe they would have said this anyway, but I don't think I believe it. The two conservative women, when he got to them, both were like, well, actually, I, you know, I agree with Trey. I also think the First Amendment is good.

dude. I feel like it kind of disarmed him a little bit. But anyway, that also undercuts what I was going to finish with, which was like, we keep arguing logic with these people. And it's like, that is the issue. And I do think that's oftentimes the truth, but I'm glad that I was wrong this time. Yeah. Corey is still here in the chat, or at least he was a few minutes ago. And I don't, I think he was talking about the old Tom Hanks case. He just sent a message to the chat in all caps that says, conservatives loved it my mom loved it i think he's talking about the tom hankstangstang

which yeah everybody everybody loved it he's not uh he's not his mom's not watching pierce he's he's so he's still here yeah no he's talking about the tom hankstang's thing but he said he said i'm still here i'm well enough this is what's been whispering now i was talking about time i don't know this is kind of funny i'm gonna keep up you know if he chimes in every now and then it might it might have for people but i so I have a thing that I've been avoiding telling you guys in the group chat for a minute because I'm

so embarrassed by how pathetic it is, but I'm going to say it in front of everybody. It's going to be disappointing after that preamble. I've just really been hating myself for this. I really, really fucked. I mentioned it very briefly last week

right after it happened, that I had got those new shoes and gone for a run. Yeah. And I was like, God damn, my legs hurt today. Yeah, they've been fucked up ever since. Have you been a doctor? I've been limping. So, fucking Katie keeps, she, and everything I've Googled seems to support it.

You know, I'm doing the webm-day thing, whatever else as you do. But it's like, yeah, it's, you know, you got really bad shin splints and led to inflammation, which is still there, and there's nothing they can do for it. And she's got a friend who's a, like, a exercise. What is, what's the word? Like a, I don't know. Kinesiologist? Kinesiologist or something like that.

And she told her friend and her friend said like, yeah, they can't, all they're going to do is tell them to rest, rest them and ice them and all that stuff, which I've been doing ever since. But I had shows this weekend. Dude, I was limping all over the airport. I've been just laid up on the couch with ice packs on my knees and shit. It's like I'm 78 instead of 38. And I just keep going back to literally all I did was I went for a jog.

And I've been basically out of commission for a week since. It's like, I just, I just hate. It's worth going to what Corey said, which is many fans came up to him when we were at the trucker's weekend, saying, Trey's really going to give himself bonespurs so he don't have to tell his wife she was right. Hang it. Okay, maybe I'm misremembering. No, I'm remembering it now. I got it.

Yeah, that is what's happening. Yeah. She told you them things are bullshit, not to go do them. Yes. Now, here's the thing. again, I brought this up last week by being like, don't y'all hate it when your wife turns out to have been right about something? I already acknowledge that she was right.

But it's just a confluence of dumb things in addition to the, it's the new shoes. I was trying to go harder that day on purpose than I had previously. My legs started hurting early, and I was like, oh, I know you just push through that. That's what you do. David Goggins, is that his name? I guess.

You made so many mistakes. I don't have that dude's voice in my head because I don't listen to him. I do know who he is, but I didn't do it for David Goggins reasons. I literally am just dumb and fat enough that I was like, when my legs started hurting while I was running, I was like, well, this is just because I'm not used to it. I'll just push through it and it'll be fine. Well, that's David Goggins is what I meant. Push through.

No, I know. I know that's what you meant. But I just want people to know it's not because of David Goggins is because I'm just stupid and fat and dumb and don't hit. and it just, and so all of that just made it 10 times. Because the other thing is, even when it was happening, and even when I got done, I was like limping back home, I was like, I know I've heard of shin splints. I know it's a thing.

At that point in time, I thought they were, like, getting a cramp. That's what I thought shin splints were. I thought it was like, yeah, this happens. I'll go home, I'll chill out for a couple hours, and it'll go, if that, and it'll go away. It's like a cramp. It sucks for a minute, but then it goes away. no, it can like, they can last in some form for like weeks or months.

Now, the way that's supposed to work is that it only, when I say last for weeks, you shouldn't feel it when walking around or just sitting. It's if you try to go run again, they'll flare back up. So don't go for a week? I'm at a week now. The stuff that I read said that like three to seven days,

and they are, it is getting better, but it's been rough. I'm sorry, but it sucks. It does not really, but it's also like, you know, I get tickled at futility. Yeah, and it's like the futility of being our age and trying to be in shape and also go. Right. Your wife's advice.

It's just like, this is just an exercise in futility. Ironically, you were trying to exercise literally, and all you did was exercise futility. Yes, yes indeed. But I've read all the things where it's like when it could be something that's worth. or more serious and what those things are and what they feel like. And I don't match any of that shit. It seems like textbook inflammation or whatever in the way that it works. But Corey said it sounds extra silly because of how my throat is,

but I'm laughing very hard at Trey's misfortune. Yeah, I knew it would hit for y'all and everybody. That's why I was meant to start with it. And then at the beginning of the show, I was like, you know what? I'm just not going to bring it up. I'm going to continue to hide this from the world and everybody. And then for some reason, I decided to say it anyway. but yeah, I don't hit.

Because it's like, because I don't think I'm going to go. I don't, I think I'm running just, I said last week, running didn't hit for me. And I was like, I'm going to get into it now. Kind of maybe it does hit. Then this happened, it's like, no, no more running. I'm just getting my fat ass back on the bike where I belong. Yeah, running don't hit.

If you ever move on from the bike, you've got to go to a pool. Right, but that, I got to go to a place for that. Sure, sure, sure. Running's over. It's all on top. really don't like going to a place. No, I know, yeah. Warm up.

You can, like, run the warm up, you know, run to, like, oh, I'm on vacation for a week. How am I going to get my heart rate up? But, like, to run to stay in shape, like, because you need to run, like, an hour, you know, or 30 minutes. Yeah, you're too old for that, brother. Yeah. Or on a treadmill, but treadmills don't hit because it's like,

that's the other thing I was on concrete. That's another problem, like concrete or asphalt and sidewalks and that shit. It hurts. It's worse. Can you run on a trail now? No, I mean, no, not really. I don't like it because it's insane. It's boring.

It's, yeah. No, it's insane. It's a thing insane people do. Like, if you neutrally, if that wasn't already a part of our culture and someone just introduced it and you looked at it for a minute, everyone would be like, what is wrong with this person? Cho just said, I love treadmills. I find that. That's not a cookie brand, Cho.

It's a thing you get on. I'm about to say, I know that, Joe, I know that you be walking. Oh, never mind. Okay. Yeah, treadmill farms. Did I text him? So, we were in Athens all weekend. I was there from like Wednesday on.

I saw the truckers every night with the last night. Of course, that was the best night, according to literally everyone, including Patterson. Me and Corey had a show on Sunday. Thanks to everybody with him out. I texted Corey, I think on Thursday. and was like, I was pretty down the shroom hole. I was feeling really good. I had a great night.

The show was incredible. And I was texting Corey and I said something like, you know, this is even so much more fun than I remember to have been. Like, it's unbelievable we get to do this or whatever. Then on Saturday, he was like, I can't, you know, hey, I'll see you tonight, whatever. I was like, I'm on kid duty. Not going to be there. Meaning the concert.

And then I took Roscoe over backstage to be. meet everybody just briefly. And he was like, what the fuck, dude? You're here? And I was like, oh, I was for a second. And I was like, I didn't think you're going to be here today. I was like, what? What are you even, what are you even talking about?

So suffice to say with the treadmill thing, you never know what you're communicating with Corey in person or face to face. When it's via messages as it is now, there's too much going to be lost in translation. Yes, indeed. indeed. So that all hit, I imagine. Man, I thought it was incredible. Like, here's like an example. On Friday, Patterson played a new song and he messed it up.

And he was like, afterwards, I was like, great show. And he's like, oh, that was, you know, as you do as a performer. And I was thinking that night, I was like, man, if that's the worst thing that I see or that happens this weekend. I mean, for me, it was one of the best weekends I've had in a year or three. our show Corey and I show went great we were at this little venue called Hinder Shots on Sunday it's hard to get a venue to let you play in Athens because you're not allowed to sell beer unless your sales are 50% food he's defending himself and you're letting yeah Corey says I'm so fucking furious that Drew left out so much goddamn context and I'm too

ill to jump on here and screaming him he's done this on purpose by the way I don't like I don't you know what I'll read it type it out and I'll read it I didn't leave any context out. I wasn't trying to make you look bad. I was just saying your communication skills are lacking. If I am actually more communication skills, let's hear it. I hate my ass. So I think this is fun. I think that people think he was hitting me with like what's the fuck dude. I thought you weren't here. And I was like, no, I've been here. I told you that. Go back and look. And he was like, oh, my bad. So if I'm wrong, then why did he say, oh, my bad? All I'm saying is that communicating you with you via written form, it doesn't always

work and I think you're proving me right because you are screaming at me to get ass cancer when all I'm doing is relaying the story. Anyway, our show was rad. Here's how rad Athens is, you know, if you catch it at the right time or whatever. And I've had many magical nights and moments in Athens. Hey, it's Hope Drew has it. That's Corey's new movie. I went to a bar after our show that does surface.

It's the only way they can be open on a Sunday. And Patterson was like, I'm going over there with Dave, and he was pointing at Dave Barbie. Dave Barbie is their longtime producer. He's in the van sugar. He worked with R.E.M. He's, you know, behind the scenes, a big deal or whatever, and a great guy.

It's always been friendly to us. So I was like, yeah, I'll go. I invited some of the other truckers. They're like, I don't know if we're going to get there. I get there. I see Patterson at a table that's full. But some of my friends are right beside him. So I'm like, whatever, I just sit here.

And then Patterson comes and talks to me, and then they call him back over for a picture. And I take the picture just to like, you know, there's a couple of my friends and whoever. It was Patterson Hood and Dave Barbie. I don't remember his name, Something Shelley of the band Sonic Youth, Michael Stipe of R.E.M. Oh, shit. Yeah, Abe Partridge was probably the least famous person. He's someone, I wouldn't know by his look, but back with Bitter Southerner first started doing those year-end lists, he had an album I was obsessed with.

Actually, I don't know what he looks like because he's a cartoon on his own album. Anyway, that was like my last night in Athens was fucking Michael Stipe and a slew of other world-class hitters. Michael Stipe, by the way, I would describe him as effervescent. Okay. It would kind of, you know, it's bubbly, like he just floated. I bet he weighed 80 pounds, but like a healthy 80 pounds. Right, yeah. And it looked like he was wearing a blanket that I mean, probably a super vegan, right?

See, let's just. If he's not Applied, playing an existence level of vegan Yeah, like even if he

eat steak, the steak was vegan. Yeah. The cow. Because he made it. Yeah, right.

It was effervescent, man. Just floating, floating around with, you know, some twink, if I'm honest with you. Corey just pointed out

all cows are vegan. They're vegetarian. Yeah. Throw the other word in there, he called me. You can't bring the group, you can't bring the C? I told you.

You're poor. in communication. You're texting like this is a group thread, but this is the podcast. You can't, you just type out the R word, and then we're going to censor you for you. This isn't a group check, Corey. We already did. Do you see how bad at this yet? Yeah.

He's, okay. He said, all cows are vegan. Say that I said, I don't give a fuck. I can't believe he's being overly defensive. So this hits, I think we should just do this every now and then. That's my opinion. I'm glad you guys. I completely disagree.

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domain. That's squarespace.com slash well read to get 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain. Squarespace, they hit. We appreciate them. Sponsoring the podcast. Yeah, I'm back. So yes, while you guys were hitting harder than you've ever hit before, I was just filled with misery and rage and futility because I couldn't walk anywhere without limping terribly or get up and down steps or none of that. I was like, I tried to make it funny to the audience by, um, just talking about all this up top. And I somewhat succeeded, but then like adrenaline kicks in when you're on stage. Because I was like, dude, I'm going to have to mart marin it and sit on the stool the whole time.

Like, I'm not going to be able to just stand up there. But adrenaline kicks in, then you're fine. Then after the show, adrenaline wears off. And legs are just on fire. But I just spent the whole time in my hotel room, putting hotel ice in trash bags and placing them on my legs and stuff and taking all kinds of Advil. hoping to not get swept away by the floods that were besieging Kentucky at that time. I also was in Kentucky where it was flooding heavily and I had to drive between Louisville and Bowling Green, just torrential downpour the whole way.

Thought for a minute we might have to cancel the show because everybody kept getting emergency alert saying, do not travel. It's not safe to travel anywhere because we're all going to die in a flood. So, yeah, it was just a real hitting weekend. I will say Andy Bashir's wife and staff and some of them came to the show in Louisville and hung out afterwards. are very cool because I'm a they're fans it turns out and uh you know it's mutual so that part hit and the show's both hit and I appreciate everybody that came but everything around it

did not meanwhile it would be it'd be funny to put like a a montage or a super cut together of like you know me and then y'all like cutting back and forth between me and y'all over the course of of that weekend but it's funny you say that because um the promoter, who's our buddy Jared, was like, he was like, you know, he kept trying to get us to not pay him or whatever. He was like, no, I just wanted to put this together. And I'm like, yeah, okay, man. You just tell you what, you can pay me next year when we do it again and we'll make it a tradition. And I said, well, you keep this up.

Eventually, Tray's going to get jealous and have to join us. And he was like, I don't know if I could afford him. Definitely not here at Hendrishots or whatever. And I was like, yeah, he's going to get real jealous, though. You don't know how shit of a weekend he's having in Kentucky right now. Yeah, it was awful. But it's not the state of Kentucky's fault, but, yeah, didn't. It ruled, though.

I mean, you know, he reserved seats for the truckers to sit together with their people. And I wasn't paying attention. He just did that on the first two rows. But he wouldn't have to do because no one would have sat there in the first fucking place. Well, now, here's the thing. I say that hits, but if I'm being completely honest, I don't, I would not prefer that really. I didn't prefer it. It was surreal.

Having people that you even know, let alone people who like you respect and who hit for you in sight while you're doing a comedy show, you know what I mean? Like I wouldn't get my little sister in the front row. I mean, that's just. Mike Cooley, Patterson Hood, who laughed more? Oh, man, that's a tough call because I would,

I mean, you want to say Patterson, but I feel like maybe it's Cooley, Because I'm asking you. It was coolly. And it was like, wow, there were like a few jokes where I was like, man, my fucking Patterson Lavin of that? That's really funny. Right.

And then there's no time that you'd double over. And I was like, that one? Double over on that one? Yeah. Okay. Another thing I want to ask you about because I'm fascinated by it every time it comes up. And I think I've sort of talked about this before, so sorry for it's repetitive, but I think and hope it's been a while.

Y'all know I'd be on Reddit, fucking with Reddit. Every now and then I get exposed. to some YouTube shit through Reddit, right? And it's always just so wild to me, realizing there's this whole fucking ecosystem on YouTube of like

for some reason it's all messy and dramatic. You understand? Like I've, you know, I'm on YouTube and I just doing my little thing and nobody else fucks for me and I exist in a bubble on YouTube as I do in my own stuff. They go after each other. Which is all the time. And it makes me It's like... It is. It's weird.

They all, YouTubers always have drama and beef with each other and they're always like blowing each other's shit up with like exposing each other and usually for some pretty wild stuff and it's always like I'm just like man is everybody

why does it seem like every big YouTuber is a fucking lunatic why does this always happen they are a fucking lunatic I know but I don't I don't get how or why because you know like I be we do internet stuff

I think a lot of podcasts are also lunatics probably, but not on the level YouTubers are. It's just weird to me, but the whole thing is weird. There's whole channels just dedicated to like documenting

YouTube drama. Like, they're not even active participants. They're like journalists or ESPN- talking head analysts, TMZ, but for YouTube drama. And those channels will have millions of fucking subscribers

or whatever. It's all, it's just wild as hell to me. What part is wild to you? Because essentially we're just talking about is the Hollywood machine, but as created by people who had a platform that they could throw their own shit up independently. Mr. Beast is just reality television. There's comedy on there. And then this is, now you're talking about TMZ.

Is it just wild are you the level of it or how they go after each other or what? All of it. Also, just a lot of these people's popularity to begin with, frankly, is another thing that's always wild to me. you know what I'm like I'll find out it just I you know I'm like what I just don't understand what it even is that they do

that has hit for people to begin with a lot of them and now they have massive followings and then also they're like suing this other guy who also does a thing that I don't fucking understand what it is or how it worked and I just find it all confounding is what I'm saying the whole of YouTube

culture or whatever you want to call it is just you know, I'd sooner lasso the moon. It's all agreed to me. I can't say that I find it all dumbbounding, but I definitely identify with the thing you just said. There's definitely channels on there where I'm like,

how. But the document, the drama of already popular people, that makes as much as to me as anything ever has. You know they had that with comedy too now? Did you know that? Oh yeah. Joke World is one I follow. And I was watching it, I saw a clip today

and I'm not for a lot of what they do because a lot of what they do seems very well it doesn't matter I don't know why I opened with the critique maybe I just got self-conscious that people think I'm following joke world sometimes I'm hate watching but I saw something they post a day

that was funny and I was like damn that's the level you gotta get to where people are just doing your clips for you I know without you paying them like they're just like check this out isn't it funny when he said that because joke well joke world

because I know who that is too Some of them are more like focus on drama and shit. I feel like usually, I mean, Joke World does some of that, but he like, he'll watch all these comedy podcasts and he'll take like the funniest clips from each one and put them into a montage together.

And it's like, that's so easy to see why that hits. And you're right. It's like that should hit. And I think it does hit for the podcasters. He does that for as well because, you know, it's just driving more shit to them.

It's just like getting them fans while getting himself followers. And it's like, it seems like a symbiotic relationship. Because a lot of these podcasts are hours, long. These stupid fucking podcast all these idiots do are hours long.

And, uh, and you know, taking just group chats the whole time. Yeah. Take and then, you know, just taking just the hit in this parts and put them together. That's, you know, I can see how that's a public service. So, but some of them it's all about like, dude, you, the hours and hours of

hours of like YouTube documentary coverage of like the downfall of Brandon Shob or whatever. for example. He's so fun to hate. He's crazy, dude. Yeah.

Like, yeah, it, I don't know. He's so fun to hate, though. Elephant Graveyard is a guy, I follow, who has, he's got a lot of different stuff, but he's done some of that. Is he the one that had the Joe Rogan YouTube video review of his last, latest, but that got real big. It was all over Reddit. That's how I saw it. It was on Reddit, like front page of Reddit. He's funny.

Right. Yes, that guy's another one. I'm saying there's tons of them. It's wild. Yeah, it's high school stuff, right? Like it's very strange. And even like getting back to the rap thing, I'm jokes. I try to get Caleb Signing to do it because it made him uncomfortable.

For years, I told Caleb Signing, I just want you to be my nemesis in comedy. Like, why won't you follow me on the internet? And mostly I would say to him because I knew he hated it. And I knew he didn't know if I was serious. We've gotten each other a little bit more. And he's like, come around on joking with me. Me and Riley Fox used to do that at the Knoxville level. We were fake nemesis in the Knoxville comedy scene.

But people are doing it for real. real through proxies though because there's still a thing in comedy unlike in rap where you can't talk shit unless it's like in this like calm measured I mean the Shob that's a perfect example for people who don't know and I'm sure people don't care but maybe they don't care about

the YouTubeness of this Shob had a thing with Bobby Lee and it was all about Bobby Lee's X and Shob just like not just being really disrespectful or whatever but they would like on their podcast front face and just be very like measured but then

then they would have these proxies, people like you're talking about, making it into a full-on beef, the equivalent of a rap beef. I've kind of wish we, I mean, we're the best shit talkers other than maybe rappers. Why won't we talk shit? I mean, I think it's because we're afraid it'll make us look petty, small, bitter. Like, it's almost like, if you talk shit about someone who the world sees as less famous than you, you look petty. But if you talk shit about someone who the world sees is more famous than you, you look bitter. So I guess I do get that But I guess what I'm taking a very different view than you

I'm almost going like I get why exists I want more of it But I want it to rest I want to see Tom pop up Looking down the barrel of a fucking camera And telling me exactly what he thinks about Whoever it is in this business he hates Yeah you know that I feel completely differently

On a personal level about that I would I have a like I would never Kind of approach I wouldn't either But but I don't know Well here like the thing you tried to do with Caleb, it just...

Well, didn't really try. I just kept telling him I wanted to. Well, just for a fun, like, bit or gag, if we were both in on it type of thing, I would maybe do that with somebody else or whatever if I thought the idea was if it hit for me. But, like, just as far as, like, purposely starting, like, a beat...

It just depends on how real it all is. Like, if it's like, if they both understand, if both parties of the beef understand, this is hitting for both of us, right? It's mutually beneficial. But also, fuck you, though. I don't want to do that. That would stress me out.

And I would find that upsetting. Yeah, I guess you're right. I mean, I was mostly hitting because I do want to see Tom Papa talk shit. And I thought he was one of the funniest examples. I wouldn't do it either, really. I mean, me, it would be more about the thing. I think it would be more about the thing that I said. I mean, I even feel that when we are talking about someone kind of bigger than

comedy like Chappelle. I mean, I feel like we have the right and almost we should discuss his specials in the context of him and the stuff he said about trans people. But even then, I'm like, man, it's coming across like I'm bit. Like, no matter how I say it, it's coming across like I'm bitter. But then I see, there's this guy, I think his name's Giancarlo or maybe Gianmarco. How will fuck up his last name. Do you know what I'm talking about?

He's relatively young. He's starting to like go viral a lot. Yeah. Serisi? Yes. Jim Marcos. Jamarco Sirese. I thought you knew that guy for some reason.

I think he would. He stays going in, dude. Yeah, he's funny. And not in a, but he does it in a way where it doesn't feel petty or whatever. Like someone will be in the Zite guy, so he'll just have a take. Anyway, going back to it. I think YouTube's for teenagers for the most part, and I think there's your explanation for most of me. Yeah, I think that you're right.

It's funny, because I've learned that lesson in my. myself many times and then still get fascinated by it where it's like almost always the question to the types of questions that excuse me the answers to the types of questions I was asking earlier is often it's children or teenagers or whatever right to me because I'm 38 right and I just don't get it but yeah teenagers love drama it is high schoolie they love drama I mean everybody loves drama or it's like a human thing you know fucking try a rubber neck and look at a car crash type shit but uh but especially people of that age and they just get. And it's also like a lot of its focus on like the Roganverse, right, which is like a huge cultural sphere of influence right now. So it's relevant in that way. And they, it seems like they pick, there's like good guys and bad guys.

Do you know what I mean? Like Shane hits for everybody, right? And me too. I love Shane. Thank you's awesome. And then there's, and then they just rag all over. poor Bert, dude.

But, you know, Bert, who we know and met, and he was always such a sweetheart, in my opinion, he gets so much shit from these motherfuckers all the time.

Just calling him a fat drunk who's going to die, you know, and it's like, I mean, we do that. We say that to Corey's face at least, you know.

It's just the whole thing is, is nuts. Yeah, I wonder sometimes it's like, I don't hit hard enough to be on these guys' radar, which I think. think like hits for me, right?

Because I'll sit and I'll think like if in the future, if I just am on YouTube and get some video recommended to me about how fat I'm getting or something, you know, how I'm falling apart at the seams and someone has documented all the clips where

and put together a montage showing me exploding and fucking being all sad and injured and pitiful and stuff. It's like Trey Crowder's really letting himself go type thing. Like the people do that. They do that for other people who do what we do just with a bigger spotlight or whatever than we do. And it's fucking wild. Well, I'll say two things. One, I don't think they turned on

Bert and Tom. They turned on both of them until they started like being that that bit. Tom started doing about hating poor people and then eventually Burke came around. That's definitely what happened with Tom. Yeah. And then, so like I, to some extent, I feel like they, they're probably cool with it because it's like, yeah, we knew this was going to be almost like, yeah, this was the plan. Get your name and algorithm, say something controversial. You know what I mean? And I think that that's smart from a PR standpoint,

but just lame as fuck. Like, it's just lame as fuck. And related to that, and this is easy for me to say, I have different goals than you and the very different personality. You're like, dude, you play theaters and no one makes videos about you getting fat. That's my dream. Like, that's right there.

You know what I'm saying? Like, T. Bone Burnett wants to hang out with you, but like some blood-sucking ghoul who rapes kids, but it's going to put you in a movie, doesn't. That's, for me, yeah. Yeah, you're right. No, that does hit. Playing Madison Square Garden would be rad

in terms of, like, your goals, and you set out to do comedy, and you got good and big enough to do it. But then I think about who's done it recently, and other than Byrd, I don't respect them very much as comics. They're fine. None of them are bad.

like we've talked about Schultz before. I think Schultz is a very serviceable stand-up comedian. He has some bits that have made me laugh very hard. But the fact that he makes so much more money than, well, Tom Papa, I bring him up again, who is phenomenal. It's just kind of not for me. Yeah, evidently, it's not for me either. But speaking of Burr, he was all over the head ones this week.

Because he said that billionaires should be put down like rabid dogs. And that got picked up all over. the place. So very on brand for him, keeping it hunting. I mean, especially on that subject, he's been saying that type of shit for as long as I can remember. But it's very particularly relevant at the present moment.

So, yeah, he's he's, he keeps it, he's a, he's sort of a shining beacon in this, in the current landscape of comedy that we're all living in and dealing with. You know what I mean? Because he's like,

he's totally separate from all that but still hits for a lot of the same people that those guys hit for, but he clearly don't fuck with it in that way. And he's just, again, it just keeps it real while also being one of the best comedians in terms of comedy out there. Well, it goes back to what I was saying, too. I mean, again, I think I'd rather, I think I'd be happier. I don't know about rather. If you gave me the choice, I think I'd choose Burr. But I think I'd be happier in the position you're in, just in terms of my own personality. But Burr's, at this point too where it's like he's clearly

got enough money and esteem and respect in the industry that he doesn't feel like he has to I guess dance much so it's like there's enough like money and fame or cloud or whatever you want to say that's given him this freedom but then at the same time

he is sort of unknown enough to be that guy right like it's not we talked about Tom Hanks up top there's something about someone's super rich and famous and powerful, doing anything that feels distasteful

if they're doing it about people much poorer than them or whatever. Of course, to your point, Burr's not really doing that. He's kind of more doing the Bruce Springsteen thing where he like is the voice of the people. He's not. Bill Burr is not a working class man, but his content always has been in that voice

because he used to be. Because he came from him. Right. Which I think is, you know, that's fair. Oh, yeah. It's been a while since we've talked about it. but Tyler Mayhen Coe really set me on the path of righteousness on this. We say authenticity in art.

All we mean is sincerity. That's all we ever mean. No one gets mad when David Bowie pretends to be from outer space, but there's nothing authentic about that. But he's being sincere as fuck. So, yeah, Bill Burr is a sincere person. And you know what? That happens with cancel culture, too.

A lot of times people do or say the wrong thing, and the reason they can make a comeback is everyone can go, yeah, he meant it, and then he realized he was wrong, I mean, Burt is actually the perfect name of that. He's got fucking jokes about hitting women. And then he's got, like, interviews later, he's like, yeah, I probably went a little too far. I was just trying to explain.

You know what I mean? I don't read. Yeah, well, that was his, that was always how he approached, with all that shit the whole time, his whole, his, like, caveats at all was like, you don't, you shouldn't, I'm a fucking idiot. I'm not an expert. I'm just an asshole running his mouth or whatever.

You know what I mean? Like, you don't, which is, and I think, so it's why. and no because so many comedians i always felt like one of the central defining characteristics of someone who even wanted to be a comedian or was a comedian was like you know you should i feel like i have an almost pathological aversion to taking pretty much anything what i deem as too seriously taking anything too seriously you know and it's like that's to me that's a big part of being a comedian i feel like or it was and now i feel like so much of

the comedy world and so many comedians like they're image brand persona, all that stuff. I'm not saying that wasn't always popular to people. Like famous, you know, like ones that were legitimately famous, of course, had PR teams, all that stuff. But it's just people take themselves very seriously. So many of them are like cool and try very hard to be cool and all that type of shit. And it's just all, I find it all strange, you know.

And the whole, then not in America at least, there used to always be like an every man aspect or you should at least try to pretend to be one for the most part. And that also isn't as much of a part of it anymore for so many people. It's just, I don't know. Shit just changed a lot, which I guess shit always does. Well, it's also maybe a semantic question too, because I can totally imagine someone being like, what do you mean you don't take your stuff seriously?

You have very serious topics, Trey. But what you're talking about is like, because it's funny because a lot of people I think who would, who fit what you're talking about would look at what you do and be like, this guy. Takes himself. takes it all very seriously. No, what if it saves, like, oh, he's always talking about important stuff.

That's not what I do. I'm just a comedian. But they take themselves so seriously. It's like they don't see the forest for the trees type situation. And honestly, I think Burr arrived at where we're at, not on a personal level, but comedically because he saw his friends, who claim not to, you know, like,

want to pick a side or claim to hate people who, like, bowed to the left or whatever, suddenly become friends with Elon Musk. Right. And it was like, who the fuck do you think you are? Yeah. Like I heard Stobb saying the other day, Stavro's saying the other day,

something about how like it's a real bad sign for the culture, just the impending death of American culture that he was including himself. He was like that me and a lot of these other comedians play arenas and are this famous and have these followings or in these plays. He's like, that never should have. been allowed to happen. And the fact that it is happy, he was like, and it will course correct eventually. But this is all fucking stupid and shouldn't be.

Not opening a joke is all about how you got to stop listening to comedians. And jokes about how I used to have a serious, important job. And because of that, I now know other jobs aren't important, one of them being this one. It's just, and one of the lines I do, and it's true, this is kind of what I think Bill saw and got very over and I'm very over it. is people saying we're the last bastion of free speech. Right. And they can't define or spell the word bastion. Like, you've never said the word bastion in your life.

Right. I'll give you $4,000 if you can define it right fucking. And like to a man, I don't think any of them who've said that, seriously, not, you know, unironically, could. If you ever hear someone say, stand up comedy is the last bastion of free speech, asked him to define the word bastion and then tell me about it and I'll give you $20. That goes for everyone out there listening. Listen, not the shit on the guy, although I know for personal reasons he deserves it maybe a little bit. I heard Uncle Laser say that.

I want you to rerun that sentence back that I just said. I heard a guy who goes by Uncle Laser say that stand-up comedy was the last bastion of free speech and the most important art form in America. He parents Bill Burjokes, almost word for word, and his whole bit is that his snake-skinned boot. are too fire for the world. And I'm not going to say, there's something wrong with the guy acting like or thinking that

he is what the future of American thought is. Yes. I've heard of that person, but I don't know him or know who he is with the way you described that was very funny. So, I mean, just the name and the boots and everything. And I acknowledge...

Well, dude, one of the preeminent thought, he's not a comedian, but one of the preeminent thought leaders on the right is named cat turd you know what i mean yeah like i mean it's everything's and if you're laughing right now remember we keep getting beat by him and that you're listening to the well-read podcast and telling us all the time how we are important voices for the future of the country and i and on that note i would acknowledge a certain amount of what might be perceived as hypocrisy all right we had a gentleman come up to us late and it was a great meeting you this weekend dog and he was talking about how important

we've been to him just like in making him feel sane because he had to move in with his right-wing in-laws because of a person. Anyway, no, that I get. It's not a situation where I'm trying to say that, like, you're not going to identify with things or the comedians aren't talking about important topics. It's that when people start listening to them as far as, like, thought leaders for policy, rather than what we do better than a lot of people, I'll acknowledge this, is something you already felt. we set it in a way that is sound biteable and makes sure to validate it. And that is an important job. And some of us are very good at it. And I guess that's what I'm getting at with Rogan or people like him.

Even Chappelle, all they're doing is validating people who already hated trans people. They just gave them two lines in order to say it quickly and to feel like it's okay to say. Yeah. That's not all leadership, dude. That's validation. And when it comes to hate, it's gross. Yeah, you know, shouldn't listen to us, but come see me on the road as soon as you possibly can. Treycrowder.com, I'll be, you know, shitty legs and all.

I'll be in the Carolinas this week. Charleston, Riley, Charlotte, I believe in that order. And then Florida next weekend. And then after that, onwards from there, Drew will be with me in April in Knoxville. And Cho will be with me that same weekend in Chattanooga. So holler at us. all that's at tricrouter.com and make a hit what you got, Drew? Yeah, I got that show with you the night after I'll be at Zanis in the lab,

which is, I think, April 12th. And that's it. I don't have anything on the deist. I'm about to go on a little bit of a stand-up sabbatical and then pick it back up heavy in the fall. Yeah. Hits. All right. Well, that'll do it for us.

Pray for Cho's voice of my shitty knees, everybody. Thank you all for listening to The Well Red Show. love to stick around longer, but we got to go. Tune in the next week if you got nothing to do. Thank you, God bless you. Good night and skew. Skewy fart, butt.