wellRED podcast - WellRED Podcast Thanksgiving 2024

Episode Date: November 27, 2024

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Starting point is 00:04:16 No theme song for all this week. Dude, I'm sorry. My brain's all over the place since we're having to record all these early. Yep. Here we are. It's just me and Cho. We get a double jokes of me and Cho this week. if you don't, if you listen about this and POA,
Starting point is 00:04:32 because Drew is, they have sconed to parts unknown as his want to do. Now, this one, this one is not Drew's fault. We normally record on Tuesdays and, uh, couldn't this week, but he was like,
Starting point is 00:04:44 well, fuck you. I can't record on Monday. So we were like, well, guess you just get to not be here then. You know how I've told you there's, how that's how that happened.
Starting point is 00:04:52 You know how I've told you there's like certain words, uh, that make me hungry or just if I hear a Chinese person talk, I get hungry. Like I've told you I have all these like weird trigger. Obscond is a huge one for me. It does sound like a nut base something. Well, I just always want to scone.
Starting point is 00:05:10 Yeah, I just always want to scone when I hear that. And when you get in like that mood, there's certain foods that's like, sushi's definitely one of them. It's that when you get in the mood for that particular thing, nothing will satisfy other than that. Like a lot of times when I'm hungry, it's like throw anything at me, I'm good. when it's like a sushi hungry or like a, I want a scone or like a cheese Danish,
Starting point is 00:05:35 I'm like get everything. You've seen me go after a waffle house like I was a grizzly bear. Yeah, I don't get, I'm trying to think the last, it's not that I don't get cravings or whatever I do, but not like, uh, I feel like you,
Starting point is 00:05:49 again, I feel like you go through like spells. I do go through spells. Like again, I've seen you have where you're like, I'm on primarily a pancake based diet. present. Yes.
Starting point is 00:06:01 Or it's like, you know, most of my meals are pancakes. Or you've been like, I feel like right before you got gout, totally by coincidence. And the run up to that, you had eaten nothing. But I thought like steak and eggs every morning for like, yeah. Yeah. For like months. Oh, yeah. I, dude, I would eat.
Starting point is 00:06:18 There was many weeks where, and this is coincidentally. I can't do that. Like I, like, I, that, no matter how hard something hits for me, I, like, I just can never do that. because I want, I want different. Like I want, I'm mixed up. Like, even though I love steak and eggs, obviously. If I had it two days in a row, I'd be like, oh, I don't want that again for at least a week. I want other things.
Starting point is 00:06:42 I'm less like that now that we have bane, so we like do switch it up. And like, Amber has actually started cooking lately, which. Congrats. Yeah, it's great. But I don't know. I've always been like that. Like, also, a big, big huge thing here to mention that my, gout and me living on that diet was purely related to that's when we started hitting.
Starting point is 00:07:06 You know what I mean? Like, as soon as we started hitting, it was the first time I've ever had money in my bank account that I didn't have to look at and go, okay. So here's how much I need for, you know what I mean? Like it was like, I was free. I was comfortable. And in my brain, making it always meant steak every day. And so I did it.
Starting point is 00:07:27 And then fucking work. I'm going to a shoot and got gout. You know what I mean? Yeah. But yeah, I don't know. I'm fixated on that. It's weird because, by the way,
Starting point is 00:07:36 please understand that I'm in no way diagnosing like all those people on TikTok too. However, from every single friend group that I have on a weekly basis, I get sent videos and articles about autism and them being like, just you, bro. Just you, bro. And no, that's true.
Starting point is 00:07:59 You know how I know that's not true? Because in our friend group, it's Drew that everybody says is autistic. Yeah, yeah, okay. Aside from that friend group. And yeah, it's only because we have one that's like clearly more. Even more. You know what I mean? But like, it's really wild because I was like, I never like bought into it because I was like,
Starting point is 00:08:14 bro, but then I started realizing that like my outgoingness, like you know me. Like I really would rather be home. It's like, oh my God, that's masking or whatever. But a big thing is like having safety foods. And like when you get on a food, it's like, this for every. and like going on streaks like that. But also there's a huge crossover between autism and ADHD. So I'm like, you know, I don't know, guys.
Starting point is 00:08:37 Like I'm pretty just super ADHD. But anyways, yeah, that's a me thing. And I don't hit at it. Now, hey, we're going to be in Nashville, Trey. We should go ahead and tell people. Yep, December 12th through the 14th at Zanis in Nashville. Holiday homecoming deal, just like it is every, every year.
Starting point is 00:08:59 year a little bit earlier this year but still going to hit me choe andrew all will be there this is also the only time of year that we are together so even if uh you're not special yeah so even if you're not in nashville proper if you're close enough driving i know a lot of people are i posted about it on blue sky and i had several people that were like just got my plane tickets you know what i mean so like do it it'll be fun get those tickets at tray crow crowder dot com along with all of tray's days Yeah, make a hit. So do you like, how, are you looking forward to this Thanksgiving? Yeah, I love Thanksgiving because we do it different.
Starting point is 00:09:37 Thanksgiving does hit, obviously, but like, you know. Do you mean like politically? Yeah, well, just around the election and stuff. A lot of people were like, a lot of people were like, after the election, I saw a lot of people on Reddit and shit just being like, man, this Thanksgiving is going to be wild. and I remember a lot of people saying that in 2016 too. I'm immune to that. Right, but why?
Starting point is 00:10:02 Because you're so used to it? No, because a lot of people don't know this, but on Thanksgiving, I go to Iowa with Amber's family every year. The reason I love Thanksgiving, so I've always loved Thanksgiving, but because we basically did a thing where it's like we were just trying to switch up Christmas and Thanksgiving every year for us to go up there. But the Iowa people had a great idea. they're like, hold on, how about during Thanksgiving, y'all just come up here during Thanksgiving
Starting point is 00:10:29 because it's not as cold and we'll do Thanksgiving and our family's Christmas at the same time. So I get Thursday Thanksgiving and then Friday, the girls get up and they do their Black Friday stuff or whatever. And then we have Christmas that night. Now, it's not just because of that. I'm not saying like, oh, because it hits so hard for me, I can just take all the Trump stuff. every single family member of Ambers is either completely apolitical
Starting point is 00:10:58 and have been like they remind me like their family reminds me of how it used to be in the South they get in the garage they start drinking the last fucking thing
Starting point is 00:11:07 in the world they want to talk about is politics because politics don't hit to talk about unless you're an analyst or whatever they all they want to talk about
Starting point is 00:11:16 is how many deer they've killed how many ducks they about to kill and how hitting the neighbors homemade slim gems they just made and sent over our they drink Bushlight, it's fucking great, none of that gets brought up.
Starting point is 00:11:29 And they're either that or on the other side on Amber's like mom's side of the family, not Amber's mom, she's a Republican or whatever, but her dad, he fucking hates Trump and is a, he's a Democrat. And the reason, I mean, the reason is because he's a, he's one of the most decent men I've ever known and he's amazing and I love him so much.
Starting point is 00:11:49 but also he was a postal worker his entire life. So he's very pro-union. He's just always been a Democrat because he was very pro-union and stuff like that. But he didn't get down with like, dude, even if Trump had been pro-union, he wouldn't have liked him. Like, I remember in 2016, like before MAGA really set in and everybody was making it their personality, he was already on the fuck this guy. He's a clown. He's embarrassing the office.
Starting point is 00:12:15 He don't like people that talk mean because he's a real sweet guy. That was like a non-starter for him just that Trump was mean. This is Amber's mom's dad. Yeah. So, yeah, pap, all. Yeah, her papal. Yeah, yeah. He's not.
Starting point is 00:12:27 So anyways, my point is, but he don't talk, like, by the way, it's great because he knows. He only talks about that to me. Yeah. You know what I mean? Because he's read my book. He knows the deal. And I was, dude, when I first met him, I didn't know any of this. And I was terrified because our book had just come out.
Starting point is 00:12:44 And I was going to meet her papaw on a farm in a house. in Iowa and I was like oh god and dude he we immediately hit it off we're very much alike he's the sweetest guy and he he's one of those people that politics aside wouldn't have liked trump just because he's mean and this guy's super sweet what about when all the other feller is talking about stuff like kilt and whatnot what what what do you contribute to those conversations I cook it what yeah what what are you in the garage yeah are you in the kitchen with the no no no no where you belong.
Starting point is 00:13:17 I don't, I don't stay in the garage as long as I'm sure they'd want me to, but that's purely because I don't drink on these trips. Like I just, why? I never, I don't really, I never drink when I'm on vacation. Like,
Starting point is 00:13:29 I like to just relax and feel good. And especially now that we got Bayne, I want to have the energy to take care of him. You are one of the most nonsensical people that I've ever known in my life. I only drink when I work. I only drink when I work. Because you, you like,
Starting point is 00:13:41 be just, well, I mean, I always forget your three hours ahead of me, but like, yeah, you know, we'll wrap up a podcast recorder and you're well on your way to
Starting point is 00:13:50 because I'm working tore up and then by five o'clock my time you're like threatening to kill people on Twitter and stuff like that because I've been working drunk on a Wednesday yeah yeah but you'll do that but then you're like oh I don't drink on vacation I don't because you know why a vacation is supposed to be the opposite of work it's a vacation from your normal life and if that's
Starting point is 00:14:16 my normal life. Like on me and Amber's honeymoon, we were in fucking Barbados or whatever it was for seven days, free drinks, all that shit. I didn't drink a drop. Amber was hammered the whole time and I loved watching her get hammered. That was great. But I read a book a day. That was my, like, when I don't have to work and stuff, I like to truly relax, you know, and I can't really relax
Starting point is 00:14:36 with alcohol. See, that's also why, because I think a lot of people, it's like, toes in the sand, beach chair, Pena Colada or Margarita or something, watching the waves come in, is like at sunset, is like the pinnacle of relaxation.
Starting point is 00:14:56 It does hit. And also people being like, even outside of that, just like, I'm the type of person that I need a drink to like calm me down. I hear you. One drink will call me down. If my nerves and shit is not hitting a drink like levels me out.
Starting point is 00:15:14 Or like, it relaxes me. I don't know how to put it. It relaxes me. And so, you know, to be like, well, I can't really, but you just, it just turns you up. Yeah. Your brain, all your wires is wrong is what I'm saying. I know, dude, I'm autistic, I guess. Your brain is wrong.
Starting point is 00:15:32 Why are you, yeah, you got, you know. I'm never going to deny this. You've never heard me lobby for me being correct in the way I do things or my, like, I know it's wrong. It's just, that's just how it is, dude. I can't help it. But like, so to me, like I hear you, you know, if I was super stressed, one shot of whiskey would definitely take the edge off. It's just that I'm going to have two. And then that makes, because I, you don't have severe anxiety like I did.
Starting point is 00:15:59 We talked about this. Like you have depression. We share that. I know you've dealt with anxiety more lately, but. Well, it's been better. I went through about an 18 month period where I had crippling, I thought it was going to ruin my life level anxiety. Yes, you did. Yes, you did.
Starting point is 00:16:14 I think knock on wood that I have since gotten it under control and it's been better for a long time but I spent 18 months having I'm pretty sure just about the worst type of anxiety that a person can physically have yeah you did it was really bad
Starting point is 00:16:33 and I feel bad for you but like me I've had since I've had it my whole life like I know the things now I mean it took me fucking 35 years but now I know the things not to do to make it worse. And alcohol is a huge contributing factor.
Starting point is 00:16:49 And it's not while I'm on drunk. It's the hangover. It makes me super anxious. And the anxiety blisters into depression. And another huge reason is I noticed when I would go on family things that like I would drink with the family the night before. And then the next day, I was so depressed. I didn't want to leave my room.
Starting point is 00:17:09 And it sort of fucked my vacation up. And when I'm anxious, I'll be the first to admit it. I'm not fun to be around. I've got a hair trigger. I can be an asshole. And so now I just like as a, as a, you know, a help not only to me, but also to everybody there so we can have a good vacation, I just stay away from it. I relax.
Starting point is 00:17:27 I'm like all, I'm more about the family and the kids now. And like, and I'm not trying to like pat myself on the back and be like, I've grown so much, but like I enjoy hanging out with the kids and stuff. I don't mind if everybody's drinking while I'm in there, you know, playing Pokemon or whatever. like that hits for me. Plus, by the way, somebody gonna have to be sober enough to go to the goddamn hospital.
Starting point is 00:17:49 You know what I mean? Like, I get worried about that. Everybody drunk and there's kids around. I'm like, somebody got to not be drunk. Yeah, well, I don't, I mean, I don't, I don't consider the holidays a vacation
Starting point is 00:18:03 necessarily, but like, I go to my in-laws every year for Christmas, and I love it. And I don't ever drink there either, but the thing is, Nobody does. Like, I've talked about it before, but like I've, like, I've always kind of marveled at those families who, uh, they all get together for holidays and just get blitzed. And it's like, on the one hand, it does seem like it would be fun.
Starting point is 00:18:31 But on the other hand, I do think that's where a lot of the like domestic disputes that have. Yes. Probably originate. It's because they get. But, but like my whole life, even, dude, my dad, my, my dad and both my papals. big drinkers, you know, come from a long line of sinners like me or whatever. Right. But they, but never family events on, and then dude on my mom's side of family, fucking, it was pills.
Starting point is 00:18:56 It was fucking crack. Right. Yeah. Wild as hell. But at holidays, though, everybody just pretended they didn't do none of that. Do you think that was like a, um, a, always. That was just a nod of respect to the ones who did. Yeah, me, ma'am.
Starting point is 00:19:13 Yeah, yeah, the me-ma. That's what I always thought. It's like you don't do that. You just don't do that shit around me-ma or mama-cat. And my mama's mom, a mama-cat who didn't, she didn't fuck with none. I mean, she smoked a pack a day, but she didn't drink or do drugs or nothing.
Starting point is 00:19:26 So it's just like, yeah, yes, that is what I've always thought. It would be disrespectful to me-ma or whatever to do that. But either way, like, I've never had that experience. Every girlfriend I've ever had up to it, including 15 years with Katie, their families were the same way in, like, I've never, I've never even been to a family gathering that was like that. I dated a bunch of orphans in my life. I've never, like, I've never even had the opportunity to do it.
Starting point is 00:19:54 So my holiday getaways is very, very family oriented, whole, and wholesome too, which I do love. I, you know, I make gingerbread houses from scratch that the kids have a gingerbread decorating contest for them. I'm so into that. And we put, we make all these little holiday games and all this. stuff and I love all that too but I'm saying I'm not opting to not drink that yeah yeah literally no one is drinking the whole time and that's always been for me I just like I've gotten a lot more tenderhearted about family since I a obviously since I had a kid but even when just when
Starting point is 00:20:30 Laura James was born and she's seven now and also going to therapy made me just a tenderhearted dude I fucking cried insurance commercials I'm a stereotype but like I don't get to see that side of the family a lot and a lot of them are getting older and you know and it's always that count when we lost grandpa rich last year like it's always that countdown of like i might not ever see these people again because they live in iowa and like again not trying to sound any type of way but like i really try to just be present and just enjoy that and there's so and dude like everybody got three or four kids there's just it's a menagerie of kids running around and like i just have fun with that like they're all wanting to throw ball and all that stuff it's almost like even
Starting point is 00:21:08 if i wanted to drink i wouldn't have a chance to because i'm too busy running around like just being the fun uncle and i love that and me and like brum bane is like my shadow like he goes everywhere i go even if his mama's in there i mean he loves his mama obviously but like he's my shadow and um i'm just always i'm so a dd that i'm like i have i can't give my brain any more excuses to not pay attention to what's going on and when i'm on alcohol it's like well fucking what you know whatever so like that's just like i don't know if i told you but like the other night i fucked with a weed gummy for like the first time since Bain was born. And it was after I put him down, because I was like that, it can't be before then.
Starting point is 00:21:49 And I put him down. And as soon as that weed gummy hit, I turned into Daniel Plainview. And I was just like, I've abandoned my boy. For sure. I've abandoned my child. Absolutely. Yeah. That spell of anxiety I had, it ended weed forever for me, I think.
Starting point is 00:22:05 I haven't. I don't blame you. It's not worth it. I haven't fucked a weed in any capacity since it because. while that was happening, it was just completely, a complete non-starter. Like when I had, when I was having that anxiety real bad, if I had any amount of T-HC whatsoever, it would trigger a full-blown panic attack. And like I, so I just stopped and I haven't ever gone back to it.
Starting point is 00:22:26 Like I don't, so I don't, I mean, I haven't fucked a weed at all in, I mean, months, really. So even though I got the anxiety under control, generally speaking, that's the thing. It's like, I'll still get like, I'll still get some anxiety. every now and then about a certain thing. But now I can, and I know, I know, you know what it's coming. Like, that ain't it. That don't hit. You shouldn't do that.
Starting point is 00:22:48 Whatever. But now I can have like, as an example, I can take like two, I can have like two drinks or something. Don't let people tell you that ain't it. If that works for you, it works. That will, typically that'll work just fine and then I'm okay after that. And also, even that happening is like once a month or something. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:07 As used to, dude, when I was in the throes of this. I mean, I had, there were multiple times where I thought I was going to like just try to walk off the stuff. Like I had panic attacks on stage in front of a room full of people where like, it's rough. I didn't move. I'm anchored to the mic stand because I'm shaking violently. So I can't let go of it. I can't move it. I'll just stand there like a statue, deliver my line.
Starting point is 00:23:33 And it's like still getting laughs. I think it hit for people. But inside, I'm tortured. And that happened multiple times or plenty of other times where it was like, like came to the verge of that, but not quite. I mean, it was like a living nightmare for a while there, but then it got better. But, uh, so I'm happy for that. But the way, yeah, I just don't, even before all that happened, it was like, what was
Starting point is 00:23:58 the best case scenario for me with, like, even before that happened, I would still, the void would show up. risk reward is not. So it's like, but what was the good version? Like, what happened? Like, you know, the foot. The late night snacks or not been eating anyway hit a little harder before I went to bet. Like, why even?
Starting point is 00:24:17 Well, and for the people, I know that weed affects different people differently. Yeah, there's people listening to this going, what do you mean you had anxiety and you couldn't fuck with weed? That's the thing that helps. That's what,
Starting point is 00:24:26 that's how Katie is. We help Katie's anxiety. I'm saying everybody's different. So I don't, it should be legal. I support you doing whatever you want to do. If it hits for you, then that hits for me just fine.
Starting point is 00:24:37 But it, for me is the, I'd almost rather fuck with any other drugs. you can imagine. Yeah, me too. Than too much marijuana. And that's the God's honest truth. Well, do.
Starting point is 00:24:47 Like, if you, if you told me right now, like, would you rather, like, take a, like, little bit of heroin, you know, like, a reason, you're definitely not going to OD, but it is straight up heroin versus what you know is too much weight. So, like, for me, for me, too much is 10, 5 is too much. Oh, bro. Let's say we're like, I'm taking 2.5 and gone to the moon. My brother? Right.
Starting point is 00:25:11 They were like, you know, a 25 milligram weed gummy or heroin. I would be like, give me the heroin. Speaking from experience. No doubt about it. That will impact my life less negatively than that 25 milligram gummy, no doubt about it. And there's people out there that take 100 milligram gummies at a time. Robbie takes a thousand milligrams at a time. Yeah, it's just, no, not only do I, first, I can tell you from experience.
Starting point is 00:25:36 Yeah, take the heroin. I mean, as long as you've in this scenario, you know you're not going to get addicted. or whatever, which luckily I didn't. But, yeah, it's going to be better. Like, I'm with you. And I think what it is, this is a two-part thing I'm about to say, because you have just said something that transitions perfectly into a thing I wanted to talk to you about.
Starting point is 00:25:55 I didn't think you were going to bring up hair when I thought I was going to have to. But anyways, I think what it is with me and you, this is it for me, at least. Like, all you hear is the stories of people taking weed to relax. it makes them happy at part. All you hear is that. And we've heard it so much
Starting point is 00:26:14 that even though we have data that proves that's not true for us, we still, every now and then convince ourselves, it'll work this time. It'll work this time. Like it's Einstein's definition of insanity, but we fall for it every time we're like,
Starting point is 00:26:29 it'll work. Because every now and then there is, it has just purely hit for me. But I'm talking 1% of the times I've taken it. Anyways, on heroin. Do you mean ever, though? like, because my thing is that like, before I had children in my late teens and early 20s, we'd hit so hard for me.
Starting point is 00:26:49 I never freaked out on it. It hit more back then, yeah. I never freaked out on it. I never had a bad experience. I would just listen to it, put on headphones and play like slash guitar solos and almost have a seizure from hitting so hard. No, it did used to hit for me. And like, we had a buddy, Chris, you know, my buddy Chris.
Starting point is 00:27:05 Yeah. He used to freak out even back then. and all the rest of us were like, bro, what the fuck is your deal? Right? And I was just with him last weekend. And because we got brought up. He coming to Nashville? No, I was in Cookville watching the.
Starting point is 00:27:17 Oh, is he coming to Nashville? I don't know, maybe. You know, he got two little kids and everything, but I want to know. But anyway, I brought this up when I saw him last weekend. I was like, dude, by the way, I apologize for anything I ever said to you about weed when we were in our 20s or whatever because I fucking get it now. Yeah. Exactly. I'm exactly the way now that you used to be back then.
Starting point is 00:27:41 But he never, he was always like that. He never had a hitting, but that's why I've always thought it was hard for me is because my introduction to weed and my first few years from weed, it ruled. I loved it. Right. And it was just hard for me to say goodbye to yesterday. Now it was different back then. In that way.
Starting point is 00:27:58 Well, they made it way crazier over the years. Plus I moved to California where it's even another level. And, you know, but either way, I've always thought that's what made it so hard for me is because I did used to hit and then it just stopped it and I couldn't I couldn't accept that for a long long time but I think that I finally did I think that Denver experience might have snapped us you know what I mean when we took too much and also when we were in the hotel that room that night and the only person who could save us was Rory Scoville special yeah yeah anyways uh no I feel you it it's not worth it to me anymore really. And I'll be honest, though, the, after I freaked out about Abandon and Bain,
Starting point is 00:28:40 like, it was a low dose and like I ended up just kind of calming down and it was whatever. But it like, it wasn't enough of a great feeling to justify any moment of freak out. You know what I mean? Like if any other thing had does that to me on the regular, I'd stop trying it. Heroin. So I don't know if you heard your boy, uh, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., our, uh, uh, current national advisor of health, the chief health doctor, the doctor of America. Secretary of Health and Human Services.
Starting point is 00:29:13 Secretary of Doctors. This is after he's done being labeled that. He's said some crazy shit. Like, he's always said some crazy shit. Normally, however, it was about, you know, chopping the head off of a whale or drop kicking a dolphin in its pussy. And like, none of that has to do with, like, the health of this country. So it's like, whatever live your life.
Starting point is 00:29:33 He was just on a podcast where he was. They were asking about his fucking ADHD, how he has extreme ADHD. And they were like, man, how did you achieve so much having it that bad? And like, you know, in college and whatever. And he was like, oh, simple. I just did heroin, man. Like, it just calms me right down. He's like, he's like, I'm telling you.
Starting point is 00:29:53 And I'm, maybe, obviously, I'm just seeing a clip. And maybe at the end he was like, don't do heroin. But he, the clip I saw was him just really extolling the virtues of heroin as it retains to ADHD and how it can focus you and calm you down. Now, I can tell you this. I've done heroin. Calm me down 100%. Get some work done.
Starting point is 00:30:18 The fuck you talking about. Right. I'm talking about, I'm listening to Deep Purple. I'm fucking nodding. Yeah, just nodding. And then at the very end of it, when I realized, oh, you've done heroin. Who the fuck are you? I turn on some Jeff Buckley, think about killing myself.
Starting point is 00:30:33 You know what I mean? Like, I'm not right. in an essay. Granted, many, many artists have. But, I mean, you know, you would not, I mean, you, you, you, you got the hardcore ADHD and he says that that's what that's for. So, I mean, if you say it don't work that way, then I, I don't feel like any, who, what, I mean, did Kurt Cobain hit on hair?
Starting point is 00:30:52 I guess he hit on heroin, right? Yeah, but see, what I think is. He must have, because I was trying to think it's like, who do we ever know that is, have we ever known that has hit harder or hit real hard while on heroin, Mitch Hebbberg? But I don't know that he was on heroin. heroin when he performed. You know what I mean? I definitely was.
Starting point is 00:31:08 Yeah, you're right. He probably was. I mean, I'm not saying all the time, but I mean, I've heard stories. But we also don't know. The thing is, we don't know that they hit harder on heroin because we never saw him not on it. Right. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:31:19 Like, I, dude, when my career, like, not, like, obviously you really helped firestart my career. But when my solo career really started taking off. When you stopped doing all that heroin? No, it's not just that I stopped doing all that. that heroin, I got completely sober. And like, I genuinely used to believe like, oh, you're funnier when you're drunk and you come up with funnier ideas when you're drunk or whatever.
Starting point is 00:31:44 But it's just that I'd never not been drunk. And I got sober and I was more creative than ever. Well, what's funny about that is that that actually, the same exact thing happened to me. Like, because I remember Thompson was the one who pointed out to me because I didn't even really think about it that way. But we did Downton Fabi in early 2016, right? and I um late 2015 early 2016 and I uh as that which was a weight loss challenge and as part of that I um I stopped drinking like for the first time ever ever and and I and then I drank arguably more
Starting point is 00:32:19 yeah right and yeah and you lost real bad because you didn't take it all seriously which you know is to be expected I guess but I but it hit real hard for me and I didn't go back so like I stopped and didn't drink it all for probably, I don't know, four-ish months. And I was like, I think I'm done with drinking. And then in April of that year is when I went viral and quit my day job and everything started. And that happened when I was, and then as soon as that happened, I was like, fucking, I'm a rock star. Let's get a hand.
Starting point is 00:32:49 Yeah, right. Yeah, me too, bro. Fucking bottles, boxes of wine every night and all that shit. It's like, pull it up. Gained 40 pounds in seven months. Literally 40 pounds in seven months. Me too. And I was already fat.
Starting point is 00:33:01 but like, so I threw it all away immediately. Yeah, but I didn't even think about, like, the health part. Right, I threw the health part, but like, but that didn't even occur to me. I mean, it was Thompson who like pointed that out to me. He was like, dude, you know, I just think it's so crazy. It's like, I feel like it can't be a coincidence that like you stop drinking, you got sober, whatever, and then all this great shit happened. It's not a coincidence at all.
Starting point is 00:33:25 I was like, I was like, we, what are you talking about? It's not a coincidence at all. I guess that is technically true. but it's well I've already I've already quit all that so I've quit the quitting I've quit the being sober no dude it's 100% true but it backfires on me because I've done this multiple times throughout my career because as you know me and you the level of hit that we're at our hits come in bursts and then we ride that out and then we are in no hit land for a while and then there's a burst right and for me at least since you know uh co-ecoise
Starting point is 00:34:00 or whatever, I've leveled up several times and every single time was because I took like four months off drinking. But what happens is, just like you said, you took off drinking and then you get this great thing and how do you celebrate? You drink and you're like, I did it. Pop, pop, pop, and then you, and it's not just like, it's twofold, really. When you're not drinking, you have way more energy and thus you have more hours in the day than you used to. You're like, We all have the same 24 hours, sure, but when you're a drunk, you got let the time you're drinking, you're fucked, and then the time you're recovering, you're fucked, right? So you gain more hours during the day.
Starting point is 00:34:39 But also, I think a big part of it is that voice that tells you you suck and nothing will ever hit, I'm not saying he's not still there when you're sober, but he's way louder when you're drinking. You know what I mean? Way louder. I do know what you mean. I know exactly what you mean. But you know what?
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Starting point is 00:38:37 All right. Make a hit. Make a hit. So heroin. Yeah. Did you have more to say on that or were we? No, I just thought it was funny.
Starting point is 00:38:47 I did have one. I had one other thing before we just started talking about Thanksgiving foods if you want to do that. Because I kind of would like to. All right, wait, hold on. This is quick. Is it about, okay, go ahead. No, it has nothing to do with anything. I have a nothing to do with anything either.
Starting point is 00:39:03 Well, good. Say that afterwards. Okay. No, this hasn't, I just had this book on my desk. I bought it because it was 75 cents. It's the secret book of CIA humor, and I was like, well, that has to be. I'm like, there's no way that book should be that big. You know what I mean? But I came across this that seemingly has nothing to do with the CIA.
Starting point is 00:39:22 It was just hilarious and raven to me. They're talking about pickup lines, right? It says, dating is getting tougher. Women are demanding cleverer or at least more sensitive opening lines. I've been talking to a lot of single women, and they've offered the following top 10 worst pickup lines that they've actually ever heard. Some of these are running the meal, but a couple, really. Matter of fact, I'm moving number seven to number one because I want it to be at the end.
Starting point is 00:39:52 number 10 I'd like to drink your bath water like we dude it's so funny to me because like we say that about women in private you know what I mean when they wouldn't hear it
Starting point is 00:40:05 I didn't know dudes was actually going up to women and saying I'd like to drink your bath water I mean I feel that way about all these pickup lines there was a stay in them there was a period of time on the internet back in like the early 2000s
Starting point is 00:40:20 whatever like pickup lines were like huge. Because of the artist, that guy or whatever. I feel like it was even like, it was more like they were like, it was like a Chuck Norris joke type thing. Remember Chuck Norris jokes? Like he doesn't do pushups, he pushes the earth away from him or something like that. Like those pickup lines were also like, they were like, and also the sex moves we talked before about like the donkey punching and all that.
Starting point is 00:40:43 Yeah, oh yeah, those were huge. That era, but I didn't, um, right, anytime I've been. Do you ever know about the Adobe Hut? I don't think so. Is that a move? You couldn't have because my buddy made it up. That's where you come in a girl's face and then throw dirt on it so it sticks. Okay.
Starting point is 00:41:02 Yep. That would have fit in nicely in that era. But anytime I've been confronted with the idea of dudes using these in real life, I've always, every time I've been like, wait, I thought that was just a thing that we were hitting with. Right. Like, you actually thought. Old men did it back in the day. You actually thought you was supposed to do that.
Starting point is 00:41:22 that or to say that. You know what a great pickup line is? Hey, how you doing? My name's Corey. Exactly. That's the only one that really matters, I feel like, or works. Number nine, a classic. If I could rewrite the alphabet, I'd put you and I together. Yeah, yeah, hold on. Are these these are pickup lines that CIA agents use? No, no, no. This is for some reason in the secret book of CIA humor. Well, they have to seduce people. That's part of what they do. I mean, according to the documentary series, the Americans that I've watched and other espionage things. That's I guess you're right. A big part of spy work is that you have to seduce people to be a good spy.
Starting point is 00:41:57 That might have come before this. That might have come before this. I'm not actively reading this book. I just saw it right before we recorded and I opened it and this was the page it was on. You know, like so. Yeah, maybe they are talking about that. Because it's fun. It's funnier if it's like if this is part of like CIA training or something.
Starting point is 00:42:15 Like if they, because they have to seduce the wives of fucking attaches and shit like that. Yeah. Because they have to do that, if they're, like, trained in seduction, and this is part of the training. It doesn't seem like that. They tell them these pickup lines or whatever. That makes it even funnier to think about it because these are terrible. I just flipped back, like, before this section and, like, no, this just comes out of nowhere. So it's like, it's just a book about CIA jokes in the middle of it.
Starting point is 00:42:43 It's like, hey, here's how you can get some pussy in a funny way, by the way. Well, no, this is actually how to not get pussy, because they've said they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they. polled women and they said these were the worst. You know what I mean? Okay. So number eight, let's have breakfast tomorrow morning. Should I phone you or nudge you? Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:43:05 I mean, that's not bad. Okay, I'm saving that one for the end. Excuse me. I seem to have dropped my congressional medal of honor. Do you see it anywhere here? Jesus Christ. I mean, enough women said that? if you yeah that is funny though there's no way well for i'll it's so ludicrous that it's funny
Starting point is 00:43:27 yeah but also like you know if you're one of the few people that have one of those i feel like that probably works every time oh yeah dude if i walked on the moon you best believe my pickup lila be i'm one of the few people to walk on the moon want to see my butthole you know what i mean yeah so you keep it simple like that you know they don't have to be you know overwritten these things excuse me excuse me you have lipstick on your teeth that ain't it
Starting point is 00:43:58 I mean I guess it shows the woman that you hair like you're like hey I don't want to let anybody sounds like a precursor to negging to me yes I agree four except bet your teeth don't hit trying it out of here
Starting point is 00:44:13 I've had a woman use that on me yeah right well our teeth don't hit they don't hit um say is that your toothbrush I see in your purse? Creeping.
Starting point is 00:44:25 By the way, my buddy made one up, which was this. My buddy Kelly, he's really funny. He said, and this is a spin on a classic. He said, hey, is that a mirror in your pocket? Because it looks like you have two pockets. Nice. That's funny. Explain the toothbrush to me.
Starting point is 00:44:43 Say, is that a toothbrush I see in your purse? I assume it would be like, that means you're ready to roll. Like you brought your toothbrush out, which means you can stay at my house. Yeah. Okay. Number three, I'm the best and the worst thing that's ever happened to you. Okay. I don't know about, all right.
Starting point is 00:45:05 I don't do. By the way, all of these are extremely, and they never mention these in the dating shows or in the dating, like, successful tips for dating things. Every single one of these is contingent on what you. you look like. Of course. That's all it did. It could make it work with all this shit.
Starting point is 00:45:24 There's, I think it's, maybe the Tinder subreddit. There's some subreddit that's about, like, dating. And they have, uh,
Starting point is 00:45:32 they have rules. They have, like, rules for date, success in dating that's, like, posted to the subreddit's, uh, wiki or whatever.
Starting point is 00:45:40 Yeah. And rule number one is be attractive. Yeah. It's true. Rule number, rule number two is don't be unattractive. And rule number three is C rules number one and two or something like that.
Starting point is 00:45:50 It is 100% like that, bro. It's like, yes. And people will post screenshots on the Tinder subreddit of like that same crazy shit or whatever. And it'll work or whatnot. And people will be like, well, I see this guy follows rule number one. But it's like an understanding that like, you know, if you hit to look at, you can get away with all most of the thing. And if you don't hit to look at, you have to be genuinely rizzed out of your
Starting point is 00:46:18 mind, which is like, is a, you know, they is people like that. Of course. Jelly roll. You know, like, anyways. Yeah, and the thing is like, I'm, I'm, listen, I'm a feminist, I'm woke, call me gay, call me a liberal, you can do all that stuff. However, like, bro, if an ugly man just look at a woman on a subway a second too long, it's sexual harassment to some of these bitches. but if it's a good looking dude he can come over there and touch your leg
Starting point is 00:46:51 and it's fine and I'm not I'm just, that's how it worked by the way, this is how it work with women too like if a goddamn like ogre of a woman was like coming and whispering my ear I'd be like, get the fuck off me bitch but if a really hot lady was I'd be like listen we can't go no further
Starting point is 00:47:07 but keep doing this this hits for me where do you put yourself on that spectrum of uh... I'm just well dude here's the thing first off I would never regular. I would never because you,
Starting point is 00:47:18 you know, you'd be having Riz or at least you did. No, I never would stare at a woman. I never try to pick up. Every last pore of you at this point because that's what happens.
Starting point is 00:47:27 Yeah. After we got married children. It just evaporates in the Aether forevermore, but you used to have Rizze. I did. I mean, in high school I was actually attractive.
Starting point is 00:47:39 Right. I was attractive. But then as soon as I started doing comedy, as you saw immediately, I got busted out my mind. but I always exclusively dated really hot women and I was poor, right? Yeah. And it's because, yeah, I did have Riz and like it's a cheat code if you meet them at the comedy club where you were just funny.
Starting point is 00:47:57 Like that's going to buy you at least two months of like they're still on that. Like this guy's really fun. But no, I was Rizzed out of my goddamn mind. I mean, I wasn't hideous. I was just fat. And also I'm nice. I'm a nice guy. And I'm not, I try not to be creepy.
Starting point is 00:48:12 Anyways, number two, that's a lovely blouse. it would look better on my floor. That's a classic. I've heard that in a bunch. And then this is number one actually, but I'm changing number seven to number one. This is number one actually, which this just stuck out was hilarious to me.
Starting point is 00:48:30 Your eyes are like two vapid pools. What? Vapid. Vapid don't hit. That's back to negative. Also, I didn't even know pools could be vapid. I thought,
Starting point is 00:48:41 like shallow? Is that basically what that means? Two shallow? because you want your eyes to be deep, don't you? Yeah. It says vapid means offering nothing that is stimulating or challenging. Just two shitty pools. Pool pieces of shit eyes.
Starting point is 00:48:55 I just remember one time before I got together with Katie when I still had some some amount of Riz. I did. Chin strap. Yeah, chin strap, which played. I did. I do remember using like a full blown pickup line like this. once.
Starting point is 00:49:15 Sure. Okay. But it was off the, but it was like, uh, it was bespoke. It was a bespoke pickup line. Oh,
Starting point is 00:49:21 you made it up. That was off the cuff. But also, I'm sure she got it a million times, but I'm saying, I met this girl randomly once that like, uh, she was like at a hotel I was staying at or something.
Starting point is 00:49:32 She had a name tag on, right? And it said, her name was Sonnet, like S-O-N-E-T-E or whatever. And I said something like, uh, sonnet, huh?
Starting point is 00:49:44 I bet you get compared to a lot of summer days, right? Nice. That's weird. And that was didn't know what the fuck you was talking about. No, no, she did it. It hit for her. Oh, really? Yeah, we went to a bar later that night.
Starting point is 00:49:56 By the way, I didn't mean that as like women don't understand Shakespeare. No, I didn't. It's just the one. I don't appreciate art or literary. They don't know how words were. The women that fucked us back in the day are. The women that fucked up. You know, every single ex-girlfriend of mine is a full-blown maga lunatic now?
Starting point is 00:50:13 That's what I'm based. Yeah. It's so funny you say that. That's what I'm basing this on. It's so funny you say that. I was just talking about that on my Patreon video that I made today. Like right before I got on here with you, the Patreon video I made, I was talking about how before Katie, the girl I just talked about was like a one night. It wasn't even a, we just like, you know, hung out at a bar or whatever years ago.
Starting point is 00:50:34 She wasn't a girlfriend. But before Katie, every girl ever actually dated, every one of them is a full-blown maga lunatic. like you said. Well, I mean, I guess I don't know that for sure with all of them. Yeah, you do. But they do. Now, the one that I think probably isn't, she also is apparently real bad off on drugs and was suspected to have been abducted and killed, but then turned up fine and it was just some elaborate plot or something. I don't know, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:51:06 I don't think she liked that. Lunatic. Yeah, there you go. Just take the magaparte out. She was a sweetheart, though. We don't have to, you know, hell. be fair to all them girls, if I voted for Trump, so would Amber. So, I mean, yeah, she's just one of them.
Starting point is 00:51:19 So luckily, luckily the things I've told her to believe she agrees with. So anyhow, by the way, that's a joke, guys. It's not, but I'm going to say it is. Here's my number one. And I'm going to give a little context to what I think it's talking about so that it hits harder. I assume that this is to be said when a man's looking at a woman's dress. or maybe has felt her dress or something because all it says here is
Starting point is 00:51:46 nice material, want to fuck? Yeah. The material I remember in that era, maybe it was just like Bain's big brother, James, had a book of pickup lines or something maybe. Maybe it wasn't a like popular thing on the internet.
Starting point is 00:52:06 Maybe we were just exposed to it. But when I was like middle school age, me and Thompson and Bain and Cory Barlow and all of us, like I think yeah there was either a book or a website or something that had all these pickup lines listed on and we used to read off and like laugh about and stuff. Yeah. And
Starting point is 00:52:22 most of the ones you just said were definitely on that list, including it wasn't material. I just remember it was like nice nice dress want to fuck was the right was one of them. But yeah I don't know where those all. I think that one would get you further frankly. I mean it just as with everything depends on how you look and depends on the warmer. And I had a buddy that was in the military
Starting point is 00:52:42 that when he was on leave, you tell me how you think this plays in today's context, because I still feel like it's mostly fine, when he was on leave from the military, so he was like pretty shredded. He wasn't, he was sort of a short king,
Starting point is 00:53:00 you know, like a manlet. But he, but was like, not full blown of money, but he was like, he was ripped and in very good shape and a good looking dude, just like, you know,
Starting point is 00:53:12 sort of minimal. But he was in the military. When he was on leave from the military, he would, he would, the first day he was on leave, he would send out what he called the covenant, right,
Starting point is 00:53:24 which was this, which was this like paragraph that he had written up. And this was the era, all the different women. This was the era of MySpace, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:34 So this is like pre, this is, he's putting in work is what I'm saying. He's like pre-tender and all that type of shit. He was like getting on my space. MySpace for like girls in the general area or whatever and he would DM them the covenant which said he didn't call it the covenant in the thing. We just knew that that's what he called it.
Starting point is 00:53:53 Jesus, don't do that. Yeah. And it just, it basically all that did, it was just like, here's the deal. I'm in the army and I'm, you know, looking to fuck something and I don't ever want to see you again or talk to you because, hey, I might get killed in full. lose you next month anyway and I'm not really looking for a fucking full time you know like I'm here briefly I'm going to be gone I want nothing out of this but if you'd like to hero if you'd like to get bored out then here's how you can find me yeah and like that that I know for a fact that that
Starting point is 00:54:29 worked for him at least a couple of times it would work now like a lot of people think like good like the climate like oh the climate has changed women be like this women be like that and I always like to say to those people you're right that that that's the popular notion that we see on the internet. But those women that don't like that always exist, and I promise you, even in the air, and I'm not saying this is good or bad,
Starting point is 00:54:51 I'm just telling you what's real. Even in the era now, we're past the Me Too era or whatever, there are still some downright, dirty sluts that just want to be fucked in the ass and have you talk shit to them. I'm not speaking from experience. I got buddies out there that are divorced.
Starting point is 00:55:11 And I, like, again, Like these maga lunatics or whatever, these type of women, they don't give a, a lot of them don't give a fuck how you talk to them. Like in other words, some of them think it's a man's right to do that. You know what I mean? And the thing is like, the way he's doing it, though, I think is kind. Because like any woman who's not in.
Starting point is 00:55:32 Anybody who's not interested can just be like, not into it, whatever. But there are definitely women who were like, oh my God, I just got out of a bad relationship. I just wanted to get dick down. and I didn't want the guy to catch feelings, and I know you might get killed in Fallujah, so this is perfect. Like, people need to understand that, like, women and, like, women like to fuck.
Starting point is 00:55:51 Like, I think that it's been beat into so many people's head that, like, women don't like to fuck. But it's like, there's plenty of women. Yeah, but there's a lot of dudes that we don't need to be telling that too. I know what I'm saying. I know that. There's a lot of, there's a whole lot of dudes out there that, like,
Starting point is 00:56:05 who don't really need to know or understand that. Well, no, but it would be nice if some of them knew it because they're these married guys. That'll just make them even matter, you know what I mean? Because they still won't be getting fucked. Right, yeah, that's true. And if they understand it, like, no, actually women do like this. But like, not with you, then they'll shoot up even more schools or whatever. But I don't know how it was for you, but like in the South we were almost kind of like not out loud talk, but it was like it permeated just the subconscious or whatever that like sex is a thing for men that women put up with and we'll let you do sometimes.
Starting point is 00:56:36 Yeah. You know what I mean? Right. And I think that's because like in the old Southern Baptist tradition, it was. It was like men didn't even know women could get anything out of it. They're just like, get on there, you know, for 30 seconds. Your mama show does care about your schooling, boy. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:56:51 Right. That's just how men didn't know that women could experience pleasure or enjoy things. Like fucking sex or not, just any of that, you know? Right. So, yeah, no, but yeah, you're right. That is how it's sort of taught. The other thing I'll say about my buddy that he, uh, that probably helped his numbers was and, you know, respect.
Starting point is 00:57:15 He was all, you know, I know you heard this. He was always, he was a bit of a chubby chaser, my homely, like he was always right. Yeah. Oh, dude. That was fish. That was kind of. That was kind of his wheelhouse. And, you know, he knew, he knew what he was about.
Starting point is 00:57:34 You know what I mean? And it did work. Dude, as they always say, if you don't think your dream will come true, change your goddamn dream. You know what I mean? Like, first off, let me go ahead and say this. Ain't nothing wrong with that. Yeah, as Shannon Sharp said, if she ain't too 80, she ain't a lady.
Starting point is 00:57:53 Yeah. 210, I'm going in, Skip. 210 I'm going in, Skip. They ain't nothing wrong. I remember I heard a female comedian. I can't remember one time, but she weighed, she was like 300 pounds. She was talking and she goes, yeah, I'm 300 pounds, but there's some good pussy under here. Yeah, I've got a gut.
Starting point is 00:58:11 some good pussy under this gut. I think that, was I don't like the queens of comedy or something like that? Might have been Monique. Yeah, but it definitely seems like Monique. Lou Nell? Maybe one of the two. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:58:27 I don't know. Young ladies are hilarious. There's some other big old funny black ladies out there. It could have been any of them, I guess. I remember, I think, wasn't Lou Nell. What was the kind of hot one? Sonia or something like that? Some more.
Starting point is 00:58:40 Some more. some more, some more. She was definitely on the compilation. Yeah, she was, she was like well built and stuff. But I remember one time she had this bit and it was, somebody was filming her in a parking lot on the way to the show, and they were asking her to tell a joke or something like that. And she goes, all right, I got one.
Starting point is 00:58:57 Everybody talks about Viagra and Aphrodisiacs and stuff like that. Men always want to know, is there something I can eat to get me hard? And I'm like, yep, my pussy. I remember one of her bits from that special too. which was just her talking about the double standard in Hollywood about how it's only ever, you know, titties that they show and pussies and stuff
Starting point is 00:59:18 is like the problem's not new, just, you know, she wanted to see some dicks on the screen. Hey, they're doing it now. She said, she said, I want to see Wesley's Nestle. That's what she said. I want to see Wesley's Nestle. I want to see Denzel swell. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:31 And then there was a few other tags or punchlines that were about black actor penises. But I can't remember what they were. But anyway, yeah. All them girls were killers, man. She was a fucking killer. I loved her back in the day. She's still touring, but I just, I don't see clips of her anymore.
Starting point is 00:59:45 But she's a goddamn killer. But yeah, no, I mean, again, I think your buddy, like, he's far from being a creep, like, because the thing women hate more than anything is when a guy don't act like it's that way when it's that way. You know what I mean? Like, he's just saying up front, this what I want. And I guarantee you, if they had to come back with, like, no, he wouldn't have been like, oh, come on, bitch. Let me I mean honestly I said he did pretty well with it
Starting point is 01:00:13 But dude The batting average was probably 175 or something That's all you need But he sent so many of them That you know You miss 100% of the shots You don't take my brother
Starting point is 01:00:23 Right Yeah But yeah with all these pickup lines Like back in my day I went through some tears And it was never pickup lines It was just Talking to a person at a bar
Starting point is 01:00:34 Who nobody was talking to Being left at 3 a.m. Yeah well that too but I'm just saying like just strike up a conversation and be charming. Like you don't need a line like just hey how you doing. And by the other, and I don't believe in the whole like as soon as you made him, let me buy you a drink.
Starting point is 01:00:51 I don't believe in that. And the reason I don't believe in that is because immediately the woman knows you have no interest in anything other than her looks. Because that's all you're basing it on. Hey, can I buy you a drink? It's all about the looks. Get to talk to them for about 10 to 15 minutes. But isn't buying somebody?
Starting point is 01:01:08 They're supposed to be an ice drinker that? or ice drinker, icebreaker that's meant to be like, are you cool with us talking more? I mean, I guess you're right. And if she says yes, then it's like we can continue this. I guess you're right, but I always feel like it puts the woman in a weird position
Starting point is 01:01:24 because like she's probably scared to say no. You ever had a girl like try to force you to buy her a drink, like at a bar? Oh, yeah. And I'm, what I'm talking about is, dude, one time I was standing at a bar. I'm with Kate,
Starting point is 01:01:36 I'm like married by this point. I'm just with somebody at a bar. watching the game or something like that. And I'm, it's busy. And I'm standing at the bar waiting to order a drink from the bartender. And right here beside me is some drunk thought, you know, who she ordered her drink or whatever. It doesn't even said a word to me, by the way.
Starting point is 01:01:54 She's standing right beside me, but hadn't even acknowledged my existence, nor I, hers, and I had no interest in doing so. But she ordered her drink from the bartender, and I was hoping I was next. And he hands it to her and he tells her what it is. And she just goes, she just put out his tab. It points me. Absolutely not. I was like, I was like, me?
Starting point is 01:02:09 Hell not. Yeah, you don't mind, do you? And I was like, I was like, fuck, no, don't do that. I was like, no, you know. And, of course, she was like, eh, same way. Like, you know, she got all pissed off. Like he was going to fuck her anyways, or if it matter. And I was like, no, I'm not.
Starting point is 01:02:21 I don't even, who the fuck are you, you know? But anyway, so like, that type of shit also does happen. Yeah, I used to go to. That kind of almost happened to me and Drew at a, when we were watching the playoffs last year in a sports bar. This chick came up and I think was Angling for that type of thing. It's happened to me a lot. up with Drew's baby and that pretty much fixed it. Yeah. It's happened to me a lot and I think it's because I'm fat and they think that I'll
Starting point is 01:02:45 just be into that like, oh, she's paying attention to me. Like not knowing that A, I'm happily married. Or even before I was happily married, B, that like I can get stuff. Like I know that I look this way, but like I got away, you know, it's whatever. But like I used to actually have a bit about that based on this bar that me and my buddies used to go to where I would like sing when we had like a little acoustic band or whatever. and so women were constantly doing that because they, you know, they assumed I got free drinks or whatever. And it's one thing to be like, start talking to me and then be like, hey, buy me a drink.
Starting point is 01:03:16 That's one thing. But to just, I don't know you. And then you come up and you're like, hey, get me a drink. Yours are free, right? It's like, get the fuck out of my face. And I had a bit about it, which I know it's not right. But the bit was that I said that at every bar like that there should be what I called a cunt tax, which is that women had to pay a dollar more for all.
Starting point is 01:03:37 of their drinks and it went into a jar and at the end of the night it went to the twice divorced dad who was super miserable having a bad time he just got all that for all the years that he had to go through that that's like his social security benefits you know what i mean right i don't dislike the premise but like there's no way to do it without seeming like you just hate all women i used to do a bit because i got married at an early age and everything i used to do a bit when i was probably 25 or 26 and was already married about being the single guy Avenger or something like that. Yeah. I would just go to bars and just like put those bitches in their place.
Starting point is 01:04:15 Hell yeah. You know what I mean? For my single buddies that couldn't do it. You know what I mean? Like because that, you know, like, you know, I remember I had some line that quoted that dude from Lord of the Rings or whatever. It's like, your pussy has no power here. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:29 Something like that. Yeah. But anyway, it was stupid and misogynist, but what are you going to do? I remember one time we were in Knoxville and we were with Rick at that, what was that bar that we did karaoke? Bull feathers. Bull feathers. We were at bull feathers. And now that I've thought about it several times and I can see the whole scenario in my mind.
Starting point is 01:04:49 And what it was was an older woman trying to hit on me. But I did not, I didn't go with it at the time because I've just have such a, I'm such a defensive person. I went on stage and I sang, uh, my way by Frank Sinai. and I got down and this older woman came up to me and she's like, how do you even know that song? That's like before your time, honey. And instead of being, and what I said was,
Starting point is 01:05:15 well, luckily for me, they recorded it, you dumb bitch, because I was just whiskey drunk as hell and she immediately ran. Because you're like, that's also, that's your inherent defensiveness.
Starting point is 01:05:28 Yeah. You have about every fucking thing. Everything. Everybody's out to get me. So I knew that was coming. That's hilarious. But turns out I could have just bang this old broad, I think, because I can remember her face, but yeah, I couldn't have it.
Starting point is 01:05:40 Anyways, Trey, let all the people know where you and us are going to be now. Next week, first weekend in December, I'll be in the Bay Area in California, Santa Cruz, San Francisco, and Sacramento. Then after that, December 12th through the 14th, May Cho and Drew will be together. Well-read. Once again, we ride Zanis in Nashville, December 12th through the 14th. Come see us. and this year out December 21st in Chicago, Illinois at the Den Theater.
Starting point is 01:06:08 But I've also already got a ton of dates up and posted for 2025. So go to Trey Crowder.com for all them shows and come and say, man, make a hit. It'll be fun. Yeah, come see us in Nashville, Treycrowder.com. And thank you to everybody who came out to the Don't Tell show in Johnson City, even though I was not allowed to tell. But I appreciate y'all because I got to run my new hour and a half, so I'm going to take a third of that and do it.
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