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Episode Date: August 30, 2021The song on today's Bubba Shot the Podcast needs no description. It barely needs an introduction. So hang on to your hats and tell your grannies to douche, it's Joe Diffie Day and we are rocking it ou...t. We are covering the seminal 90s country song and video from the undeniably king of goofy 90s country. Strap in for Diffie's incomprable 3rd Rock from the Sun.
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by july of 1994 the american people had experienced in back-to-back weeks two separate but equally
important vehicular incidents that would set the american cultural zeitgeist ablaze and
change the course of popular sports and judicial history.
Both involved jealous marriages rife with adultery, betrayal, and intrigued.
Both involved the titillating possibility, if not probability, of dirty, dirty cops.
Both, unfortunately, involved death, mayhem, and national tragedy.
But both luckily created videos we can use as reference points,
not only to a place in time, but a place in our lives.
Not only where you were, but who you were on those fateful American days.
That they happen back to back?
Is it fate?
Is it happenstance?
Or is it simply a coincidence?
An expected occurrence in an internal scope of possibilities
while we float on this blue marble, two spaces removed from a dying star?
By the time Orinthal, James,
Simpson, stopped that white bronco, gave his hair samples, and was officially arrested.
One Joe, Logan, Diffey was setting the charts ablaze with a song so intriguing, so
in-depth, so quintessentially 90s country that I sometimes find it harder to believe that
it exists than I do the outcome of OJ's trial.
Third Rock from the Sun is arguably the greatest country story song of all times.
and is undoubtedly the best music video in the genre by a country mile.
In fact, before we get started, go take a second and watch it.
And come back to us, because today on Bubba Shot the podcast,
we are doing Joe Diffy's masterpiece.
Third Rock from the Sun.
Thank you for joining us.
Bubby Shout the podcast, and that's right, a show about country.
Cadet it's high.
Don't expect no shit from 2005.
podcast and that's right.
Yeah, I was going to say, we just, ladies and gentlemen, we just watched the video for
Third Rock for the Sun.
And so it's a time capsule.
I mean, if I didn't know, you know, if I didn't know this song, didn't know anything
about it.
And somebody said, what year was this song came out?
And they gave me three still pictures, any picture from that music video, I would have
been able to know that it was between 92 and 97.
No doubt.
But not if it was the sheriff.
Or, I completely agree with you.
but like, were they not going for some kind of period-piece aesthetic in that Joe Diffy video?
Yeah.
Yeah.
The teenagers that show up, they're James Dean, like, making teenagers.
And that's like, why we didn't, teenagers, my older cousin BJ did not look like that in 95.
They were going for noir.
Right.
So they were.
They were like doing a thing.
But I could still tell that it was people going for noir in the 90s.
Yeah.
Like, I could still.
I understand the new.
I told I sent Tushar the video so we'll have plenty of time to talk about the video because I think the video this video is art
separate from but also with the song. Let's just focus on the song for now
guys we're talking about
a Shakespearean level of craftsmanship. We're talking about one of my favorite songs. We're talking about
third rock from the sun by Joe Diffy. I'm trying to pull it up because I had it.
But 1994 in July, it was a summer track.
Of course it was.
Third number one single on the Hot Country and Singles chart.
Was it written by our man?
No, no.
We'll get into that because there's a really great thing about one of the songwriters
that I cannot wait to talk about with y'all.
But first, let's just talk about the song.
So we opened up at this bar and old girls walking in one hip out of the time.
And I know I already said, let's talk about the video later.
But one way the video really, to me, whoever directed that video, missed some.
I'm curious your thoughts on that.
In the video, the girl walks in and the sheriff calls his wife.
But then she rejects him.
It's just like, he's just like calls her as soon as he sees the hot girl and he's like, I'm not coming home.
Right.
But he definitely.
You're beating off in this bathroom of this bar.
Right.
Well wait up, honey.
I got some beating off to do.
He's definitely
fucking her, right?
Yeah.
I mean, that's the way
the song makes it sound,
but you're pointing out
that you're pointing out that
she rejects him in the video,
like, turns the way.
Okay.
That's what,
yeah,
it's what I'm arguing.
I don't buy it
that she rejects him.
I think that the implication there
reading between the lines
is she walked in,
some stuff happened
that we can't talk about
on country radio.
They yada yotted it.
They yada yotted the fucking
well he ain't fucked her yet right he's right right he wants to and it's funny because like
it's just how confident and self-assured this man is like a hot woman walks into a bar he immediately
he's a sheriff he he immediately right the song doesn't say that though for the record that's true
we're conflating a lot of the stuff with the video here the song you don't know who the guy is it's
just a hot woman walks into a bar and then a guy sees a hot woman goes to the pay phone's like
hey Sheila I ain't going to be there tonight
It is the sheriff
You don't know that yet
But it's absolutely the sheriff
In the song up until this point
Unless we were watching the video
We wouldn't have known
You wouldn't know that
But it still is the sheriff
With that attitude
But my argument, Trey is not that he's already having sex with her
I'm saying that he's already
In my opinion he's already getting somewhere
That's my take on this opening stanza
She walks down into smoke
He's one end up at a time
Like a broken field runner slipping through the line
when he calls his wife, either he knows her or, in my opinion,
like some things have passed between him and now he knows he's getting somewhere.
But it's possible that what you're saying is true,
this man just believes in himself that.
No, I think you're right, actually, probably.
Is the line one hip at a time?
One hip at a time.
That's so fucking, no, no, I get it.
That's just so fucking good, man.
Like that, I put that up there with expressions such as,
as she's got, this is one of my favorite, I'm sure y'all know it,
she's got legs that go all the way up and make a ass out of themselves.
That's one of them old boy, old boy sayings about a woman's legs that just,
they don't make them like that no more.
It's, it's for me.
Is it a saying?
I guess I assumed it was.
Well, I mean, it's, I'm hearing it now for the first, like, I'm just now realizing
that, but like that's, that's about to be a saying for me,
she walked in here one hip at a time.
That's fucking awesome.
I could see a woman, like a Christian woman saying,
about a flusie.
Came in here,
welcome him shorts on one hip at a time.
Dude, it's funny you say that
because, like,
as terrible as men are
and as misogynistic as man are,
and we are,
no one on earth
dogs a woman more than a southern woman
who she don't hit for.
You know what I mean?
Like, if a, if a girl down here,
if a church girl down here
knows of a girl who's had sex
with one other,
person aside from her husband.
Ooh, Lord, they're about to get ready to rise.
Meema, dude, me, ma'am, when I was talking, I was talking to me on the phone yesterday.
She was talking about Uncle Tim having a run in with, you know, an anti-masker at the grocery
store, whatever, which is every goddamn day, apparently.
But, like, I ain't, I ain't going to say that.
I mean, make up a name real quick.
Whatever.
It may, she said a real name.
She was like, she's like, yes, he was down there at the family dollar.
And that old, that old, uh, Cathy.
That old Kathy McGee, you know, whatever's like, walked up to him.
wearing some pink sweats or whatever and she's like you know her and normally me mom i was like you
remember her i'm always like me mom no i have no fucking clue who that person is usually but i actually
do know this woman because she was always running around town and all that shit and and and uh
but maybe i was like oh kathy we get you remember her and i was like yeah yeah i mean i go yeah she's a
hoar and i started i started cracking up laughing and she was just like what no she is she's a
horror, tray. Town horror. Everybody knows it. You know, whatever.
The hard are on the whore. The town bicycle, everyone
gets to ride. Remember that one? Yeah, or the town
pump, either one. God, damn.
I think that's a saying. Maybe,
like, I think it was. In my head, it was, but maybe
they invented it. Maybe they invented that turn of phrase. It's very,
the images there.
I want to move on to the, we can go back to it.
calling her sister up, before we go,
let me, before we move on to the second stanza,
let's talk about the setup of the second stanza,
calls her sister up and cries to get over here.
Now, my mama had six sisters,
and my dad had three.
I grew up around,
and I had so many female cousins.
I grew up around Southern women.
That line is so perfect.
Like, as soon as she got on the phone,
she knew exactly what her man was doing
and why he wasn't coming home,
and she just calls her sister and says,
get over here and hangs up again and just waits on her. That's such a 1990s thing to do.
It also brings me back like it puts you in the frame of mind of like it, what a relic of like
if you're, if you need to get a hold of someone back in that day, you've got to use the establishment's
phone. You know what I'm saying? Like so like, like, how much this dude, dudes back then could
finagle in such anonymity because like there was never a cell phone check in. You know what I mean?
Like the woman couldn't get a hold of him at all the time.
You could always be like, oh, some bullshit came up.
And I'm, you know, I would have called you, but like, there wasn't a pay phone.
Like, it reminds me of when my dad, when my dad's dad died, the way that my mom was able to get a hold of him is because she knew he was at Chili's because he went to Chili's every Monday with his boys.
So they just, she just called Chili's and there he was.
But like, that's almost like hearing that.
I mean, I was going to say that's what they used to.
to do, right?
No, I know, no, I know.
It is.
They would just call the business phone.
Call the bar, yeah.
Like, hey, rob in there.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The mayor does that at the end.
No, I know.
No, I know.
It's like, it's so wild.
It's so wild to think about.
But back then, like, people did just always know where you were because that was important
to be knowing that shit.
Yeah, man.
When I was, uh, when I studied abroad, when I studied abroad, I didn't have a cell phone
and all my American friends got one because they're used to having them.
and I loved it because even when they had made different plans
from the plan we made the day before,
somebody had to meet me where they said they were going to meet me
to tell me in person that the plans had changed.
But then I would be like, well, we're already here.
Let's just go to the bar and get hammered.
Just me and you.
So me and Kenny would get drunk when everybody else said cancel plans.
It ruled.
Yeah, and that's another thing too that a lot of,
I've told this to people, younger people,
and they just like, I guess flat out didn't believe me,
that like most people in my grade didn't take to cell phones.
Like it was not a thing that hit for us because whenever we got our cell phones,
literally like we always could talk to each other.
We was in class for each other.
All it meant was like now that our mama could check in on us.
And like that didn't hit for us because there was no more like the sheriff.
There was no more just being able to fucking go do whatever you want and be like,
I don't know.
I don't know what to tell you.
It's like now you could have checked in.
So like the sheriff's, you know, a relic of another time.
Well, it's like so many great pieces of art.
If this happened during the cell phone age,
this song will be 20 seconds long and not hit his heart.
Let's go to the second stanza because I have some,
I've always had some confusion about this.
And I think I just kind of came up with a theory,
imagining y'all telling me I was dumb.
But if I'm honest, so the second stanza's sister, sister's going,
you know, tells her boyfriend I'll be back in a while.
He wants a beer, the store's just a mile.
Now, the whole thesis of this song is that one event
can lead to all this chaos and craziness.
but to me the chain's a little weak here because I don't understand
the boyfriend going the store seems unrelated to the other events
or is it that since the sister's gone for the night
now he's decided he's going to get drunk
yeah I think it's that I didn't know that you're but first so
yes right we are in agreement that's what this song is about it's like
Joe Diffrey's singing about the butterfly effect basically like
yeah for sure it's just yeah
The good one thing leads to another, basically.
Yeah.
But yeah, so the sheriff sees a woman calls his wife.
Wife starts crying.
Wife calls her sister.
Get over here.
Now the sister's out of the house.
The sister's boyfriend's like, shit, I'm going to get lit.
He goes to the gas station.
He goes to the gas station, leaves his car running because he leaves it running,
some nairdew whales, some teenagers, loitering.
Teenagers in their loitering, am I right?
Loitering in the parking lot.
See this guy leave his car running
And so they decide to steal it
And they drive off in it
And he wouldn't have been there
I guess the point is
He wouldn't have been there getting that beer in the first place
Had his wife not or his yeah his woman not left
For the evening
Making him think well goddamn
I guess I better get my drunk on
Yeah
Every decision we make my friends
Makes a huge difference
Now the line
They scream into the night
Let's get it over
The driver tells his buddies got one life to live.
They scream into the night.
Let's get it over with.
Even as a young man, that struck me as they're trying to die?
Let's get their life over with?
Yes, but, and I'm not just saying this, because I can remember, this was the line that stuck out to me the most in this whole song.
Because this song came out when we were kids, we were like, what did you say?
94.
So I was fucking eight years old when this song came out.
I can remember hearing this song.
What he said?
I was 10.
He said Mark was 50.
He's not even on this podcast.
Mark wrote this song.
This is his first,
this was first co-write.
But I can remember that line was lying that stuck out to me.
I remember him saying like, you know,
teenagers said,
got one life to live.
They scream into the night.
Let's get it over with.
And I remember his eight years.
I was like,
they're going out to try to die or whatever.
And I remember still in my head thinking like,
man, that's fucking cool.
Like that's why.
Yeah.
Like, it's just like, team, I was like, they don't give a fuck, man.
Teenagers, they just don't care or wow.
Which like, I think that is the literal point of the lyric in the song.
For sure.
That's what he's getting at his teenager, you know, you know, fuck the world.
We're going to live forever.
Or die tonight who gives a shit.
Either way.
Either way.
So then we've got the first chorus, which I'm going to do real quick.
And then we're going to let two show our hand.
And this is why we say it's a butterfly effect.
So cause and effect, chain of your.
events.
All of the chaos makes perfect sense.
When you're spinning around, things come undone.
Welcome to Earth, Third Rock from the Sun.
And welcome to Bubba Shut the podcast, Tushar.
That would have been a lot smoother if I'd already hit the button
and we weren't now waiting on him.
Just clip it.
It'll be fine.
Bandin outlaw himself, ladies and gentlemen.
Two-Shars saying.
Pound-p-p-pown.
Oh, shit.
He looks like Tim McGraw with that sweet band Dyke's got going.
That's right.
looking good tosh what's up what's up guys yeah hell yes hell yes go dogs go dogs
you up we just got to we're just going through the lyrics and we haven't finished yet and we
just got to pass the first chorus so we're in the third stanza in the second verse
carry on gentlemen all right so the kids gunning the gas the car swerving I mean you guys
We all know where this is going.
We were just talking about Tushar.
The kid's screaming the night, let's get it over with.
It seems like they're going out to die.
Mm-hmm.
And then when you go out like that and you steal a car, this is what happens.
Kid guns the gas, car starts to swerve, heading for a semi-trek, it jumps the curve.
The truck, trying to get out of the way, hits a big boy in the Shawnee's parking lot,
and it flies through the air, and it takes out the bank clock,
and the clock strikes a light pole and the transformer spark
and the lines go down and the town goes dark.
Now, I didn't growing up, Trey, you were just talking about your thoughts at 8.
I can remember at 10.
You didn't know what big boy was.
I had to ask mom and dad.
Did they just run over a fat guy in the parking lot?
I really thought that's what it meant.
I thought, baby Huey, Uncle Mark's friend, he's a trucker, always eats at shone.
somebody like that. Evertown's got one and he got run over at the Shoney's. I really thought.
I thought the same thing too because, yeah, I mean, I, dude, I didn't know until I was
adult the relationship between Big Boy and Shonies because like when I was a kid,
they were, they were separated. Like to me, the only Shoney's mascot I ever knew as a kid
was that goddamn bear, you know, that bear in the overalls or whatever. Like, that's all I knew
Shoney's breakfast. So like, I had no idea. And then like one day it clicked and the first like literally
the first day that I heard
that Shoney and Big Boys was a thing,
this song came immediately back to me.
And I was like, oh, shit, that's what that was.
And it was, I'm sure whoever I was around
looked at me really weird for having this.
Holy shit.
You didn't know?
No, I, here's, I both did and didn't know.
Because, like, for whatever reason, my,
I'm just out thinking about this for the first time
because it doesn't make sense what I apparently thought happened.
But my dad had had, like, when he was young,
younger. He had like an old piggy bank for, and it was a big boy, like a big boy, a big boy
that Maid had. And they gave to me like when I was like a baby, like too young to even
remember getting it. And it was like sitting in my room and that was my piggy bank was a big boy.
For no reason. I mean, I was a fat kid, but they weren't making that joke because I didn't
know yet because I was still baby. But anyway, that might be they did. They were like, he's going
a big boy. Anyway, I had that. Which one of your relatives stole it?
Yeah, yeah. My mom hawked it at some point right around.
sure. But because of that, being in my room, I knew what Big Boy was.
Yeah. However, I did not know. I don't think until this very moment that it was also, so Shoney's Big Bois was the same thing.
Yeah, it's like Carl's Jr. and Hardee's. Oh, they didn't even split. It's like in one part of the country you're called Shoney's and another part you're called Big Boy or something. I think so.
No, I think maybe that's the case now, but I think that the name of the restaurant was Shone's.
Joni's Big Boy.
Yeah, that's true.
Like, you know how, like, Jack Daniels is an apostrophe as, but nobody really thinks about that.
What he's right.
Here's why I'm dumb is like, I knew what Big Boy was, and I knew it was like restaurant
related.
And obviously, he says in the Shoney's parking lot, but I never, I didn't know they were related.
So it's like, I guess I thought like, oh, big boy, he'd just be in restaurant parking lots.
He's just hitting.
Yeah.
Yeah, he's just hitting.
He's just hitting at the Shoney's there.
He's like a seal of approval.
Why wouldn't the big boy want to go to Shoney?
Yeah, right, exactly.
Yeah, like the Michelin starts.
Like, yeah, they just got their big boys.
That's the JD power of restaurants.
Right, the big boy.
I guess I thought something like that because, yeah, I did not know they were related.
But I also, I knew when they said Big Boy, I knew what he meant.
So I knew what Big Boy was, I didn't know they related, but never questioned.
That's dumber, I think.
Yeah, I know, right.
Makes no sense.
Also, let's not.
Let's not sleep on the lyrics.
Oh, sorry, Tushar, we can't hear you, but to get close to the mic.
Yeah, or turn your mic up a little bit or get closer to it.
We can hear you, but you're like really, really low.
All right, carry on.
I think my mic's fucked up.
It's not all.
You may have your computer mic plugged in instead of your regular mic.
Also, your mic isn't facing your face, I believe.
You know what I are.
Too Shark does this on purpose because he's trying to single-handedly undo Indian stereotypes.
I was about to say, if only there was a type of person that really,
really can help us out.
No, he's literally trying to do that.
Well, I was going to say, call myself.
You guys couldn't hear him, but what he said was let me call myself.
Well, I'll talk about this next stanza way you try to figure that out, brother.
Taking out the bank clock, causing Transformers to Spark and the town going dark,
that might still go on in small towns.
I haven't lived in one really in a long time.
But that feels very much like something that happened in my childhood.
It fucking snowed, a tree fell down, and now everybody, the next four neighborhoods ain't got power for two fucking days.
Yeah, for sure.
Oh, definitely.
I mean, I would imagine.
I bet insolina that still happened.
Because, you know, when I was first getting out of high school, going into college, my summer job for two summers working for the Clay County Highway Department.
And that was a big thing, was like having to cut trees out of the road, like when it would storm and trees would fall.
And like, if they landed on something, some wires or some shit, it would fuck the power up.
and it would take a while.
For a while.
Yeah.
No, that's what I'm saying.
It took, because, like, you know, we don't hit or anything.
Right.
In Salina.
So you need people that hit to fix that.
So, you know, you'd just be shit out of luck for a while.
And I'd be surprised if it's any different now, like, if that same thing happens.
Now, we didn't have a bank clock, though.
I think of a bank clock is like a, I think like back to the future.
Back to the Martin.
Yeah, I was about to say that big ass thing.
We're like it.
We're like a bank clock.
Really?
Okay.
Because to me, it feels like a, like a, like I,
you know, 50 small town America relic type of thing.
Oh, I completely agree.
The bank clock.
Did y'all have a clock, like a, what am I trying to say?
Do you all have a bell that went off every hour?
We did.
That didn't hit.
Well, hold on.
I just realized something.
Now I know why the video's noir, which we'll get into,
hopefully too sure you've got a chance to check it out.
This whole song is set in that time period.
See, I think that maybe it is.
is right.
Yeah, because at least the video is.
Big Boy and Joni's was already split up.
It is, but that's weird, right?
I agree with you.
That is weird.
We were talking about, like, I think it's a period piece.
But they don't ever say it.
But they, I know.
So, like, why?
Like, why is the whole thing set in the 50s, which I believe that it is?
Like, I think we're in a grave.
I think it is set in the 50s for some reason.
Is it like that's when, you know, Americana, like, became part?
part of the, like, really crystallized?
The only other theory I have, the only other theory I can come up with is that
hitting a big boy in the Shoney's parking lot was such a great image that they just,
they just, right around it.
It's like, fuck it.
It's now set in that time period or whatever, you know?
Too sure are you back?
Can you hear me now?
Yeah.
We did it.
Yes.
I love it.
I love the specificity of Big Boy.
I didn't know if there was some kind of deeper,
like this is the Waffle House,
you know, like that connection,
but I did realize it was like,
that is such a visual storytelling thing.
You know exactly where the hell he is.
He's hitting this big-ass thing.
Even if you're not watching the video,
which does it even show it?
I don't remember does it actually show the hitting of the Big Boy?
No, they didn't have the budget.
A real missed opportunity there.
As Drew said,
they didn't have the budget or the licensing or,
something like that. Joe Diffey,
rest in peace, he'd just come out. He didn't
have Billy Bob love Charlene money
yet. Right.
Sure.
He's new Sharps. Yeah, I get that reference.
Go on. For sure. Yeah.
I was just about to say that. Yeah, you're right.
All right. So, waitress calls the cops.
She says she saw it all. Swear as a giant alien
landed at the mall. Even when I was 10
that reminded me in my cousin Amanda
and her mom, Aunt Barb.
I was like, that is some Aunt Barb
cousin Amanda shit.
Get the police on the phone.
There's a giant alien landed at the mall.
Right.
Cop rings up the mayor, says there's panic in the streets.
We hate to wake you up, but we can't find the chief.
Best part of the song, in my opinion.
Some people may say this is a cheap trick, but I don't care.
It's like a callback or something.
I love it.
Mayor says, use your head.
If he ain't in his car, he's hiding from his wife down at Smokey's bar.
Too sure.
The man who started this was the sheriff the whole time.
Yes. Yes. Corrupt. This story is about corrupt cops.
Yeah.
Most corrupt cops. Why do you think it's cheap, Drew? Why do you think it's a cheap trick? Maybe?
I don't think it is, but I think that it's like a callback. Like some people, it's like, oh, it's a secret. You hidden. It's like, no, that's rad, I think.
Yeah, well, number one, those people, they weren't going to get down with this shit.
They're not down with Giffy?
No, they weren't going to get down with this shit anyways.
like, no, I think that's, that to me is what makes the song so great.
Like that, like, ain't that just the way it is?
The thing that you need to help was the fucking cause of it the whole time anyways, you know?
I mean, that, that's just, that's the South, baby.
Welcome to small town America, especially in the 50s.
Too sure.
Because we're at this point here, real quick, before we go to Toshar, because every other
episode I've done this, and I never plan on doing it, I just end up doing it.
Because it always is.
Have you looked up to songwriter?
Yeah, well, hang on.
not, no, just, I've always read the like Wikipedia synopsis of the song.
And this one is much, much longer, but I still think that it hits.
Just keep in mind, this is a Joe Diffy song.
So yeah, it's a little bit longer, but it won't take too long.
All right, this is what says.
An elaborate story begins in a small town with a woman entering a bar, quote, one hip
at a time, parentheses suggesting her attractiveness.
And initially, unidentified married man decides to make advances on her
and phones his wife at home to inform,
her that he is parentheses falsely working late.
Instantly suspecting that he is cheating on her, the jilted wife phones her sister to ask
for emotional support.
The sister's boyfriend then departs to a nearby convenience store for some alcoholic
beverages, but leaves his vehicle running while making his purchases.
This, in turn, leads to several teenagers stealing his car and going on a joyride that culminates
in a spectacular crash that causes a power out of the entire town and appears to an observing
waitress to be a UFO. The story comes full circle when town officials cannot locate the police chief
who is revealed to be the man at the bar who's attempted adultery triggered the chain of events
in the first place. The moral of the story is that as stated in the chorus, quote,
when Earth is spinning round, things come undone. Welcome to Earth, third rock from the sun.
I don't know if that's the moral of the story, but then stating the moral of the story,
by just listing the lyrics from the song.
But it always hits me these like novelty country songs,
broken down.
In a Wikipedia style,
like it's just very matter-of-factly and whatever else.
The moral of the story is don't be a whore.
You know what I mean?
Like, that's literally like if there wasn't a whore,
then none of this would have happened.
Or don't be whoring.
Yeah, I think she just walked into a bar, Corey.
I meant the guy, by the way.
Men can be whores.
I should have said philanderer.
You might be right because let's now, we'll get into the video because that's fun.
But let me tell you all one thing about this songwriter that has blown my mind.
There are three listed songwriters.
The only one with a Wikipedia page, I looked up the other ones and they're good songwriters,
but there was nothing necessarily super special about them.
The only one with the Wikipedia page is Tony Martin.
Tony Martin has 15 number one hits as a songwriter,
including Third Rock from the Sun, just to see you smile by Tim McGraw.
You look good in my shirt.
He received his bachelor's degree from Brigham Young University in 1986.
He had an emphasis in journalism, and he worked for the Daily Journal in Chicago.
This is a Chicago journalist and Mormon.
Wow.
He moved to Nashville to work at the Tennessean because his song, Baby's Gotten Good Bye,
was recorded by George Strait and 88.
He just was writing songs as a Mormon.
George Strait picked one up
almost immediately
and then he's like, I guess I'll move to Nashville.
Actually, you know what?
Now that I'm thinking about that,
maybe listening to this song and thinking about this song,
it does sound like a really talented outsider's perspective
on what this, you know what I mean?
Yes.
Like, because it's so over the top.
But in my mind, I'm like, yeah, fuck it hits.
But it's like, this does kind of sound like
what a Chicago Mormon would write a.
about, write a country music song about.
And I think that the big boy and the aliens landed at the mall,
all those details that you couldn't get as an outsider.
I think that's where he leaned on Whipple and Glenn Martin.
Sure.
Yeah, that actually makes sense.
Greenbaum was the other.
Glenn Martin is that guy's dad.
He also was a connected Nashville songwriter.
So a little bit of nepotism going on.
But I assume he was a Mormon too, unless he just married a Mormon,
too shard.
Don't hit.
Sam, Wayne said shit to you.
What's up?
What do you think?
I mean, I fucking loved it.
I'm liking country music more and more.
It's working.
It's working.
Gentlemen, it's working.
Whatever you're doing.
Because I usually listen to these type of songs,
the whole genre of country music,
and kind of in my head,
since I don't know it that well,
just bucket it all is the same.
And this one is,
when I listen to it,
was clearly, I just knew this from growing up here, but I was like, this is honky tonk.
Oh, yeah.
And it's different than the other songs that we've listened to, which, by the way, YouTube
has really picked up on my weekly.
The algorithm is working.
So I'm always getting these things.
But like, Joe Diffy, and it looks like, if I, I've never met Drew's dad, but it looks
like what Drew's dad would look like.
Yeah, once upon a time.
I'll go get a picture in a moment.
You're saying Joe Diffy looks like what Drew's dad would look like?
Yeah, in my head.
Joe Diffy looks like one of my aunts, actually.
Yeah, his mustache ain't big enough, but it's close.
Yeah, you know the aunt that smoked four packs of cigarettes at Christmas and brought a jello salad?
I got to say, in looking over the Wikipedia, I'd forgotten about this.
Cletus T. Judd had a parody of this song, and it was called,
called Third Rock from her thumb in reference to a wedding ring.
Yeah.
And that's pretty fucking good.
Cleetus can be hokey, but that's fucking good.
Yeah, that's good.
Shout out to my man, Barry Poole.
Yeah.
Okay.
Can we talk about the video?
Sure, and I think this is relevant enough because too sure I'm talking about what
Joe Diffy looks like.
And obviously in the video, you see him in all his glory.
are there any like mainstream country guys guys especially right now who you know can rival the
death and aesthetics like they don't know they're pretty boys now and everybody knows it
are there any left that are popular that were you know that look like somebody's fucking aunt like
no morgan wallin is definitely a heartthrob but he is from union county Tennessee and has a mullet and
like wears cutoff t-shirts.
He's the industry's answer to anti-Pretty boy,
and he's got a mullet,
but he's definitely not chubby, you know,
like he's real good-looking.
Yeah.
He looks like Joe Diffy's friend
who finishes the fights, Joe Diffy starts.
Is there anyone, to that question,
is there anyone who rivals,
did he write this?
No.
No, no, no.
No, that Mormon, Chicago,
been dead.
Yeah, and I think you're saying, does anybody write anything like this?
Brad Paisley's...
Yeah, who's the modern equivalent to this guy?
Brad Paisley writes some goofy stuff, and Blake Shelton writes a lot of sort of lighthearted
stuff, but I think...
There's a guy named Paul Thorne, but he's also not mainstream.
I think he may have got...
He wrote, he wrote the mainstream, most mainstream song, I know that he's gotten out there
is he wrote 800-pound Jesus for Sawyer-Brown, and he's constantly writing stuff
like this. But yeah, mainstream-wise, it's kind of all just like either super sad and serious love
songs or like, get in my truck, put your jeans on, baby. We like beer. There is a guy who went
viral and is getting some play for a song about his old lady cheating on him. And it's like,
she's getting dick down in Dallas. Oh, it's a hit. That song does it. You ain't heard of
no. I thought we'd group chat, group text about at some point. You may have it. I miss it.
Yeah, Dick down in Dallas.
That is.
I'm in this in this style and it's pretty good, which I want to say,
Tushar, do you, have we ever introduced you to, are you aware of an artiste by the name of Whaler Walker Jr?
I think I've heard you guys talk about.
Oh, that's what you talk about him a lot because he fucking rolls and we love him.
You definitely need to check out, oh, whaler.
Yeah.
Yeah, especially now that you've gotten the baseline to understand for the jokes are launched from.
You have a frame of reference kind of now a little bit?
It's great.
Yeah.
Phenomenal.
You know all that racist David Allen Coe stuff that you love that you think we listen to it?
We don't.
It's the same level of funny as that minus the racism stuff.
Oh, where's the fun in that?
There's some sexism.
There's some sexism.
Oh, dude.
There's a great amount of sex.
If I help you.
Yeah.
All right.
Let's talk about this music video.
It was directed by a gentleman name Roger Pistoli or Pistole.
Ah, Pistoli, yeah.
It says that the title's ripped off of Jimmy Hendrix,
but that it's somewhere between Smokey and the Bandit and Back to the Future.
That's what the video is going for.
I think that's pretty.
I think they came close to that.
Well, you nailed back to the future on that bank clock,
but yeah, I would say more like, yeah, I don't know, man.
Like, I don't see, it's more like Chinatown for a minute, you know.
It's so funny you say that because Drew didn't say,
but I'm looking at the same place where he's looking,
that's from a unfavorable review of the song in Billboard magazine.
And she, Deborah Evans Price, the music critic,
that's what she said.
Oh, my bad.
quote, her twisted plot falls somewhere between Smoky and the bandit and back to the future.
So like the song don't hit for her and that's what she said.
You told Corey that without him knowing the context and he was like, to me, it's more of a Chinatown.
It's good.
I love the video.
It's bad like all 90s videos, but there's a real weird comedy element to it.
Like the sheriff is very boss hoggy.
Absolutely.
The wife has her hair up and rollers and a face mask on,
and she at one point puts the phone, like, over her head, again,
as if she's in a 40 slapstick comedy.
Right.
Yeah, she reminded me a Miss Lipsky in the mask, his landlady, or whatever.
Yeah.
Yeah, very much the stereotypical, just, you know, distraught woman who just wants to have her red wine in the tub and be left the fuck alone.
but she wants your husband not to cheat on her too
Tushar any thoughts on the video
I mean the video
seemed higher budget than a lot of the other ones we've watched
whatever that's worth
there was a green screen action
he was on a globe at one point
that shit was great
just picturing them shoot
that whenever the hell they did and whatever
town it seems hilarious
so on that
note like I feel like there's
a thing with them types of fellers
those types of musicians where it's like
really all Diffy
is ever doing at any point in the video
is just kind of standing there like
singing right
he ain't he ain't busting no moves
he's just sort of static
with a guitar strap around him
just singing and I think
the directors and the label and whoever else
had to find ways they're like
to jazz it up a little
yeah right they're like well it's called
third right from the sun maybe we just
you think he could stand on a globe
we get Diffy up on a globe
and then that's always but but in a
field in the same way
that's always crack me up
whenever there's a music video that's like a
like because some music videos are
just the band singing
you know and that's fine but like
when it's like a high concept
music video but then they always have
to cut back to just
the singer just in a barn
playing the guitar it's like
Why do you even like, why not have Joe Diffy play the sheriff?
That would hit so much harder.
I think it's because they can't, the ones who end up doing that,
the musicians end up doing that in their videos,
I think it's because they can't really do anything.
Right.
You know what I mean?
Right.
And they have to be there.
He can't pull that off, but they have to be there.
So they just have him just sing the song.
And like you said, they cut back and forth to it.
And yes, I've always found that funny too.
It's very much a trope in music videos.
And I remember there's a Billy Joel.
song, one of his huge ones, but I can't
remember which one it is, but one of Billy Joel's biggest hits.
And in the video, a lot of people
are, yes,
Mr. Blood. That was a solid
contribution from Mr. Buck.
That's a, that's the fucking
gas from the song. I was watching a pop-up video
and it was that Billy Joel song
and there's all these dancers,
background dancers and stuff in the video
or whatever, and it said
the little fun fact, they,
Billy Joel couldn't do none of that shit.
So they put him up, they had him standing on a like movable trolley.
And they were just sort of like wheeling him in and out of this dance formation while all these people dance around him and stuff.
And that's what.
Somebody got a union rate for that.
You remember when two chains broke his leg, but he still did the show.
And they had, they had him choreograph.
And he's in a wheelchair and they had the choreographer move him in the wheelchair to the beach and shit like that.
Yeah, but that's rad.
All right.
course that's right. I mean, I think the Billy Joe
thing's rad, too, which is different.
Too shard everyone who's watching on the
YouTube. There's Joe Diffy over my
shoulder. There's Doug
Morgan. Dude, that looks just
like you're out there. That's fucking crazy
how much y'all look alike. Yeah, man.
He even looks
like kind of pissed off and like he don't want to be in that
picture. You know it wasn't
for him. It wasn't.
It wasn't for me, though. Look at me.
Yeah, that was the last.
one wasn't it? No, there was
like another year. Right on. Good
for you.
Toshar, what, you about to say something?
I was, the other scene
of the video that I loved was the
scene where the dude got his, the boyfriend
got his car stolen. Yeah.
And it was just shot
like, it was the laziest
way to shoot
a car, like, you know, because it was
from far away and then it just showed him
going away. It was a single shot
and it could have been eloquent
and kind of funny if they wanted it,
but they're like,
ah, just just shoot it, they're driving away.
Okay, we got it.
It's a wrap.
What about those teens, though, man?
You like those teens?
The Teenagers and stuff in the car?
They were like 40.
Teeny teams they had there.
Teeny teens.
Yeah, although to be fair,
knowing that it's like a period pace
and all the stuff,
all the like cinematic elements of the music video
are meant to be set in like the 50s or whatever,
Corey's pointed out a million times before,
Or like in the 50s, dude, teenagers, they'd look 40.
Yeah.
People just used to look old.
They'd been smoking a decade.
Right.
Yeah, for sure.
Since they were nine.
Well, all right, Tushar, a lot of times at this point,
you and I or you and Trey are arguing because you've insulted our heritage and our culture.
But today, it seems like...
It's about to come up. Hold on.
Okay.
Hold up.
This might not spark anything, but I did feel like the theme of the song, which is, we're on the third rock from the sun.
Shit happens.
It's chaos.
It almost is anti-religious, if you're like, is it purposeful.
Like, you don't have any control?
I mean, what would another version to look at this as saying you commit sin, think,
bad things will happen, but this turned it into like pretty much karma, which is another way
of thinking the same thing, right? So like, it was just interesting that, I don't know, what are you
knowing what we know now that it was written by this devout Mormon apparently. I doubt he intended
that, but I actually totally hear you though, and I agree with what you're saying, because it seems
like it's like there's no such thing as divine intervie.
or whatever. Everything is just chaos.
You know what I mean? Like, we're just on our own
in space and
wild shit happens and it's chaotic and
there's nothing anybody can do about it.
You know, it's like, praying ain't going to do shit.
I mean, for the record, I guess it's possible
that he went to BYU and
ain't a Mormon now. It says on his
Wikipedia page that he's Mormon.
Okay, I was about saying because it's hard for
because it's like, but he hits,
you know, like I don't. They often hit, man.
Yeah, sports.
Let me, okay, we have talked about that before, but I
I want to ask just in Tushar, this question probably hit for him generally, is everybody at
BYU, a Mormon, and specifically, are the black people Mormons there? Because they did, I didn't know.
I didn't know they had black people because like, I thought that was like part of it.
I thought it was too. I've heard before that like they literally wouldn't let black people in until like
the 80s or some shit. But also when I think of like the whitest whites who've ever whited, like
The ultimate in whiteness,
I don't know.
And what's the ultimate white move, bro?
So the ultimate white move is to colonize folks various different ways.
And the way they've infiltrated Pacific Islanders, Hawaii.
Oh, right.
And they've done it locally with like,
because they the ones that, ain't they the reason that pineapple icees hit?
We get them?
I think that was the doles.
And I don't think the dolls, yeah.
I don't have the dogs are Mormon.
I don't think the souls are Mormon, but maybe they are.
Do you remember that guy who played a BYU basketball getting kicked off the team?
Oh, no.
A black guy?
Yeah, it was a black guy because he was living with the headline was he'd had sex with his girlfriend.
Yeah, I do remember that.
But he was living with her was the proof that he was breaking the rules or whatever.
I'm pretty sure that guy was a Mormon.
I just, I did not know.
I know. I knew that, like, because watching college sports, a BYU game comes on, they'll have some black players here and there.
And I always wondered, I was like, so are they Mormon? Are they all Mormon? Because, yeah, I had no.
His name is Brandon Davies. Let's see if he's Mormon.
How do black people get took by that particular racket?
Yeah, he's Mormon. Mormon thing. He's a Utah native. I mean, I got a figure just for college, you know, like,
a basketball. Why wouldn't you, like, do that? Like, you're going to go where you get drafted, I guess, or not drafted, but like,
recruited, but...
But he's from Utah. He's a Utah native, so I don't know how long he's lived there,
but, you know, I mean, it's a huge religion.
I didn't even know they had black people in Utah.
This is a surprise to me.
I'm sure he's one of 18.
I'm sure they didn't want to go there either.
Right.
Right. There it is.
I also like how the men, like, all the men in the, in the song are just having a good
old hooting hauling time.
Oh, yeah, it was the 50s.
All right.
Women
Yeah
are just in a shitstorm
And dumb
Like
They are
They are
Like they're either like
Hysterical
Because of a man
Or
They're like
Saying it was a UFO
And you know
Right
Like god damn it
Sandy that was a
fucking big boy
Not an alien
She's like
I saw
I know what I saw
You know
He was adopted
By Mormon
Okay
Well there you go
I think you got to think that like, you know, if we're being period accurate here, Toshar, like if it's knowing this song is set in the 50s, what are they going to do?
Have the women like talk, contribute?
Yeah, they weren't allowed to do nothing back then.
I'm not asking for equality.
It's perfect the way it is.
Yeah, yeah, right.
Yeah, you're like, we're getting into that.
We're getting into that hole.
Well, what would you have Quentin Tarantino?
Right.
Yeah.
Zero edits here.
Yeah, it's a Mormon.
Right, from country music, set in the 50s.
Yeah, dude.
Oh, man.
You anybody got any part in thoughts?
You know, this is probably, I'm not going to say it's my favorite 90s country song,
because there's ones that I like, that I think are genuinely great,
like genuinely great songs.
There's some Sammy Kirschall ones that I think are generally great.
But this one, it's so fun.
You know what?
We were saying, is there anybody like him to do?
day, yeah, two chains. Joe Diffey is the two chains of 90s country.
Two wallet chains.
Exactly.
Two chins.
It works.
Yeah, one of my parting thoughts is just that I want to suggest, maybe not for next week,
but I just want to throw out there.
You just mentioned Sammy Kershaw.
I would like to nominate Vidalia by Sammy Kershaw.
Absolutely, we'll be doing that.
I know that we've just done Sammy Kershaw, so maybe we need to, you know, go down the row
a little bit of everybody else, but I just
remembered like, God damn, what an underrated
tremendously great story song that is.
This era, man.
We brought up cocaine and rhinestones as this being not like that,
but also like that.
I'm going to listen to that again.
We could just do the whole second season on Sammy
like he's doing with Stuart Jones.
Yeah, that's fine.
Trey?
It's for me.
Parting.
Pardon words.
Hits for me.
Joe Diffey.
Put it on T-shirt.
Hitch for me.
Tishar.
Any other?
My closing thoughts, you know, I like to racialize things.
I wish there was, I wish there was in the outro of the film,
the guy who got his car stolen, the brother is sitting,
and the sheriff's finally getting his shit together,
and he's like, okay, what happened here?
And the brother's like, it was like, four black men stole my car.
And then part two.
two.
And then part two is that's the night the lights went out in Georgia.
Hilarious.
Oh,
yeah,
Tuchar,
you're going to have to hear that one.
Okay.
I'm down.
Keep them coming.
Yeah,
baby.
I can't wait to see your YouTube,
Bollywood meets 90s country.
Bollywood meets Hollywood.
We should do a crossover at some point,
at least like a crossover segment where we want to bring a Hollywood clip.
Yeah.
Yeah,
I'm for that or like a whole movie.
I mean,
here's the thing.
I tried that.
makes fun of our culture,
it's hilarious.
When we make fun of his,
it's hilarious and racist.
That one in particular
that I've shared with all of us
and me and Tushar have talked about it.
It's awesome.
I think that just straight up
fucking rules.
So I'm not going to say any,
if we did that one,
I wouldn't say anything.
Can we do that?
I think honestly,
it would be the four of us
talking about the latest Bollywood hits.
Y'all would hit in India.
You would have a whole gathering over there.
Really?
Well, that would fucking rule, dude.
I think it'd be really fun, too.
Well, I mean, I kind of would like...
We got to get past this, don't eat cows thing, but we'll figure it out.
I'd like to go over and hit.
They got, they put taters in their curry.
I mean, I could live for...
I could make it a week without a cow.
I'll eat the fuck I have a goat.
Oh, hell yeah, bro.
Go to it.
There's chicken.
There's lentils.
All right.
Is chicken, hey, is chicken tiki masala?
Is that y'all?
Yes, that's...
Yes.
But isn't that like the...
Pizza, spaghetti, is that Italian?
Right, but I think isn't chicken teakomassala, like, I'm trying to think of a...
I thought it might have been Thai, I don't know.
Bastrodite.
No, wasn't it like...
Indians in the UK for, like, something that would hit over there or something, I thought?
Or is it like an actual traditional...
You know, like Chinese food in America is like...
Yeah, like sugar chicken ain't from China.
That's what they make to hit for these whites or whatever.
Well, it does.
hit.
Oh, it does it?
Chicken teka masala is almost like a restaurant or hotel meal.
You never have it at home.
Right, right.
So it's just one of those things where there's a different version of chicken you eat,
but it's rarely that version.
Well, I'm a huge fucking fan, so it makes sense that that's the wide-ed-up British version
of some shit, but it's real good.
All right, this is what we're going to do next week or whenever in the next future,
we'll all get the same Indian food and we'll have a review of something Indian.
Hell yeah.
You got to pick it, though.
I'll pick it.
I'll run the show there.
On that note, is this thing, this happens sometimes in Thai places and always with Indian.
When I say medium spice, there's either no spice.
It's like they hear my accent and they're like, he says medium, but he means nothing.
Or they try to murder me.
No, it's not they try to murder you.
It's like, or they listen to you, turned around and just gave the thing that's already made because they ain't making new shit for you.
That's fair.
That's totally fair.
I ain't hating on that.
I thought, well, maybe this is medium.
I want something in between medium and nothing.
See, I've, and I mean, I just have a different tolerance for spicy stuff than you do,
so that's all that explains it.
But I feel the exact same way except with hot shit.
Like, any time it's like Thai or India or something, I like to order hot, but in my head,
I'm like, because even with hot for me, it's either it's like, they mostly sell to white people,
in which case it ain't hot at all because white people can't handle it.
Or it's like, oh, this is like hot for them, in which case, yes, it lights me on
fire.
Yeah, if it's hot for them, dude, I can't fucking handle that shit, but I hear you, like,
my spice has gone up a little bit and, uh, and I can handle a little bit of it, but like,
man, I used to go to this Indian place with my buddy Shrey, Monty, uh, as y'all remember.
And I would be like, yeah, I'll take, I'll take the hot and he would, he would look at
him like, white people hot.
Like, don't fuck this motherfucker up.
You know what I mean?
Had your back.
White hot.
Yeah.
White hot.
All right.
out.
All right, everybody.
Appreciate it.
Cool.
See you all next time.
Corey.
Yeah.
I don't expect no shit from
2005.
Overshot the podcast, and that's right.
