wellRED podcast - wellRED presents: Bubba Shot the Podcast - DON'T TAKE THE GIRL

Episode Date: September 7, 2021

wellRED's Daddy was takin us fishin' when we were 8 years old That's right! At the suggestion of the Cho we are going a little heavier today and diving right into one of the darkest but also lovingest stories in 90's country - "Don't Take the Girl" by Tim McGraw. Join us on this 90s Country journey through fishing trips, the picture show, and the birth of a first child.

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They're the. Bubby shout the podcast and that's right. A show about country at its high. Don't expect no shit from two thousand five podcast and that's right. Kenny Rogers or M. Martha Washington. I guess Martha Washington, I think you look like fucking Mozart, dog.

Okay. Or maybe Beethoven or one of them. You look like an oil painting. Yeah. Of a wild, it doesn't, is that supposed to be your like magistrates wig? No.

Okay, I was about I say, because I'm not getting that from it. No, that's in the mail. That's on its way. This was supposed, can you, I'll give you five guesses. and in those guesses, no,

it's something really, really important to me. It's one of my favorite things that this is related to. One of his favorite things that involves silver hair or something. You ain't ever going to get it, though. You ain't ever going to get it. This is supposed to be fucking Luke Skywalker. What? I know.

I know. It's supposed to be Luke Skywalker. And for the record, I know. For the record, I'm happy with what has happened. Yeah. Because this is actually going to really hit for me in my Poldark videos. But like, it was supposed to be Luke Skywalker. Yeah, no, you're right.

I never in a million years. You look like the last Jed. But anyways, I just wanted y'all's opinion because I just pulled it out. All right. You drinking? Me? I was asking Trey because he was hitting a jewel. I didn't know if you jueled when you weren't drinking.

yeah not nearly as much but yes um i do no i'm not drinking i did just dirt any kind of like that counts okay i must say any kind of you know hitting at all yeah i picked the jewel up it ain't just drinking drinking it makes it heavier than anything else but any kind of head change makes me grab the reach for the jewel so this past i just dirted so that's probably what it does this past Saturday was the first time I've ever drank where my body was 100% detoxed from nicotine completely. And I didn't even get the urge. It was very weird.

Yeah. Yeah, I can't even imagine. I know. I mean, even in bouts where I'd quit smoking a little bit, if I went back to drinking, boom, there it goes. But like. Yeah, that's what I was about to say.

That was always my, that's always what got me in trying to quit smoking. But I mean, and you know how I bet. Since I've successfully quit cigarettes, and just move to this. Who cares? I don't even care.

Right. Like, I don't even feel bad about this. I don't give a shit. Right. I mean, do your thing. All right. Well, whatever. You know, we start whenever.

Yeah. Bring two Shahr in. About 15 minutes or something. All right. It is March, 1994. And the second single from what's got to be one of the seminal 90s country. Right. One of the Seminole, at least.

Mm-hmm. For sure. By Tim McGraw. The name of the album is not a moment too soon. And today we are discussing, Don't Take the Girl at the Suggestion of the Show. So Chalma, let you get started. Man, so I'm going to give you a couple feelings that I had

just when listening to this song for the first time. Now, I'll admit I'm real high. And I started listening to this song. And like, I don't know about you all about it. Except for the first time. I'm sorry. Do what? You said, I'll tell you what I felt when I listened to song for the first time.

The re-first time. Okay, all right. For this party. I didn't know if you were taking it. I didn't know if you were taking us back to Choldhood. Childhood. No. Choldhood.

I don't remember being seven and hearing this for the, I mean, I know that I heard it a lot back then. Right. I thought that's where this was going. And I was like, wow, this about to get wild. Then you said you was high. And I was like, I don't even know what this back would be. No, when I was seven, this song was, was fairly ubiquitous for several years.

Absolutely. I've got a relevant story about that. Okay, yeah, because it just kind of was always on. And because of that, when a song is like that, even if you grow up with it, you kind of take it for granted and you don't pay much attention to it because it's just, it's always been a thing. Listen to it now as an adult for the purposes of this

and also being high, I'm damn near a Christian. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, I really, like, I don't, I guess this is a testament to how good the song is, but like, I don't know, I don't have kids. And I, I've never thought about missing Amber if she died, but like, I've never thought, like, I know I love her, I married her, but like, I married her in like a very 2000s kind of way. Like, hey, we're all here. But, like, listen to this song, man, like, what a fucking emotional ride. But it's song took me on.

I know exactly what you mean. except it wasn't so recent for me, and I do have kids and shit. So, like you said, we talked about this briefly on the well-read podcast recently, but then I got a phone call and had to cut out in the middle of it, but about that whole thing of like, ubiquitous songs when you're a kid, you kind of take it for granted, you don't really think about it. And I was talking about Jules' song,

you were meant for me in that moment, because, like, it was ubiquitous so much so that I know every word of it to this day, because it was on all the time. All the time. But I never thought about it, and it came on a show, shuffled 90s playlist while I was like cooking dinner a couple weeks ago. And I about broke down in the goddamn kitchen. I was like, this song is fucking devastating.

But that's it, but that's a different podcast, but it really is though. That's, you go right one in a van. That song fucking rules. Anyway. So I know exactly what you mean.

And I did that with this song with Don't Take the Girl by Tim McGraw as well, but years ago. So like you said, ubiquitous we were kids, I do remember being seven and with this song because I lived at Southern Oaks. It's sort of like the projects in Salinas. It's like poor people housing in Salina. Lived there with my mom and lived at the house of my dad.

And at Southern Oaks, there's a group of little trailer babies there all around the same age, five to nine or ten. And we've decided you can say trailer babies, right? I don't get, I don't give a fuck. You've got damn right. I'm going to say trailer baby. I just wanted this. Yes.

Yes. People have tried to tell me before that that's a hateful word and I shouldn't use it. And it is if I say it. They could kiss my fucking aunt. Right, I am a trailer baby. I'll say trailer baby all the fuck I want to. Anyway, it was a group of... My best friends are trailer baby.

Me too. I've got fans of your trailer babies. Yeah. But I too am a trailer baby, so yeah, I can say it. Anyways, a group of us trailer babies age like five to eight or nine or so, something like that. We used to do a little karaoke club type thing in the backyard with like a little boom box, you know, like a small little CD player boombox thing.

Yeah. With like popular. country song like take our mama's CDs out there put them in and like sing along to these country songs and rush all the dust off of them. The only one that I, yeah, the dust, yes. The only one that I remember is this one, but this one was super popular. Group a little poor white trash kids in Slime, Tennessee just singing this song badly multiple times a day for a very long time and other songs too.

But anyway, so yeah, ubiquitous. Always remembered it. sung every word at the drop of a hat my entire life, but didn't really listen to it for a very long time. And then a few years ago, I don't even remember how it came back up, probably same way as Jewel, came up on a 90s country playlist on shuffle or something. But it came back up and I heard it while drinking as a married man with two kids who were like babies or whatever at the time. And it fucking leveled me. Like, I mean, leveled me. I'm pretty. sure I cried.

I started, when they were real little, I used to sing like lullabies to the boys, but just like songs that hit or whatever. I didn't put that much thought into them, but this got in the rotation. I would sing this to the boys at night after I listened to it again for a while because like, yeah, it just like when you

said, I'm about a damn Christian now. Yeah, I know should be like the part thing where he prays to God, I don't pray to God, fuck praying. Right. I listen to this song. But I got it. Yeah, right. Yeah. It hit me right here. And, you, you know, Yeah, this song is... It actually...

It literally reminded me... It doesn't have anything to do with this song, but that emotion reminded me of the last time that I actually prayed to God like that. And it was in a similar situation. A person... It was my dad dying of a heart attack. Yeah, right.

And it was in one of those moments where, like, it's like a... I hate the phrase, there's no atheist in a foxhole. I hate it, but I understand the phrase because when you're in that moment, like, you know, if a dude has a fucking gun on your girl, you don't believe in anything and you believe in everything. You know what I mean? It's just so, so it kind of, reliving that through that, it's a very powerful song.

Well, having said all that, last thing I'll say that, sent it back to you, Drew, but for the show, having said all of that, this is very, very much a departure for Bubba Shot to Podcast. That's why I wanted to do it. You said that. You said that yourself. So is that, is that, that's the end of it. you just want to be like, hey, let's shift gears and try a different type of thing out, because this is very, very different tonally than the other ones we've covered so far. There's part of me that's like, that was like, well, don't, I mean, why would you want to not go have fun and talk about fun songs? But at the same time, I did think I was like, let's switch it up.

I know that there's a lot to cover here. And this song is, it's a deeper story than what most critics would think for. country music at that time. You know what I'm saying? Like it's actually, it's got a lot of heart to it. It's sad. I just thought it would be not,

I'm, you know, I thought we'd hit talking about it. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it was never my intention to not have sweet songs or not have deeper songs on here. I didn't think Tim McGraw

would be our first one. Well, I want to read what the songwriter wrote, but let me offer a little bit of, I think we've been in agreement about every song, every time. I'm going to be honest, the relisting on this one for me, it didn't do it for me,

like the way you guys were describing. And I thought of this. You've never loved. Well, I mean, that's funny, but. You didn't sound like it coming from you. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Listen, Andy's fine, guys.

Yeah, Andy's fine. Y'all know that I think Andy's fine. You guys know that. We all know that. Right. She's fine. Well, that's what's confusing about y'all loving it. Y'all know he's talking about a woman, right?

Yes. Okay. I just want to make sure because he's talking about your kids. The mother of my children. Well, that part was a joke. What I was going to say is. But here's the deal, Drew. He's also not talking about Amber.

You know what I mean? I can get there. Well, what I was going to say, that is. I believe that there's a sweet woman out there worth defending at a movie theater. I know I'm not married to her, but I know she exists. Can I take it a little deeper future real quick? Because I don't know if y'all know this. And obviously everything worked out fine.

But both times with both boys, there were complications in the delivery room. for Katie and the and the and the and the boy bishop and benton both times their heart beat slowed way down and shit and it was like it ended up fine but it was extremely fucking terrifying and so yeah i just got a whole uh crazy yeah worked out totally fine everything's more than good but that's another element for for me i guess i just yeah this song hits me right here well what i was going to say is one of the ideas that led to this podcast or one of the events was when we were all crying over a jamie john Johnson song at the same time in a car separately without realizing it. And so like, you know, that's it. Crying at a song. If y'all trying to tell me I don't cry at songs, I'll cry right now. That's fair. I'll write a song about y'all saying that and cry.

But for me, with this one, I remember even being younger and like asking my dad, like, so his friend's name are Jimmy Johnson and Tommy Thompson. Yeah, the alliteration was. It was just very on the nose, in my opinion. it's it's saccharin it's uh yeah yeah you know um yeah what are the other words for that cloying is that a word it's uh yeah it's a bit much for sure if i heard this song when i was older for the first time i'd probably think the same thing yeah yeah but i if we've talked before the power of it i liked it as a kid without without knowing getting all that right yeah but i did

like it yeah and then coming back to it later with all that other shit i've already talked about and re-listening to it, and it just, yeah, just floored me. The first part where they're excluding the girl hit. Yeah, that's where Corey was crying. God damn. Tell her she can't go fishing. All right, before we bring two sharing, I want to tell you all one thing,

get y'all to react to it without him, and then we'll bring in the Indian Outlaw on the first song we've done from the album, Indian Outlaw is on. I want y'all to hear what the songwriter said. One of them's name is Craig Martin. And he says in the video in 2017 that he's come home one day. He'd been recording and he was sitting on the couch. And she said she was going to make him a homemade pizza.

And so he's sitting there playing his guitar and things ain't good. He thinks he's fixing a loser's recording deal. He ain't had a hit. They're living in a one-bedroom apartment. And he looks over there and she said she's going to make him a homemade pizza. And she's gotten getting one out of a box. And he's kind of laughing at her in his head. Like she thinks that's homemade.

But, you know, it's the thought that count. And he said he had there. and he really looked at her through the window and just thinking about how much he loved her. And I was kind of talking under my breath to God. And I thought, you can take this record deal or the publishing deal. All my stuff. Just don't take her. Don't take the girl.

And that's his story. And that's really sweet. And then he goes, and we end up staying together for 17 years. I mean, I did have one terrible brain cramp one time and I messed up. But other than that, it was really good. I mean, you know, when you get a number one record, you say what, you and your winger will do. Don't take the girl. girl leave her right there but i'm gonna when that grammy takes your dick out on a date see what

happened oh let's bring in the indian outlaw oh too shard how about it buddy oh my god plug your mess in and we'll we'll keep talking while you do that he's probably not even there probably what's he here because i don't he's here area okay what's up hey buddy i was looking good with the hand back miss he yeah it's a You look like you'd be on the, a coffee bag. That's a different kind of brown generally. But, but you're not wrong. You're not wrong.

I can see it. I actually didn't mean it like that at all. It's kind of the hipster element. And I'm real. It was the hipster. But I'm so glad I said it. Now, racist Burger King, the double down. Yeah, right.

He would be standing by a donkey with a sack of boons over its back. Jesus Christ. Well, I meant the hipster thing. But I get it. You mean his glasses and his facial hair and his hat. No. And his flannel, really. I'm saying.

I would say, I would say when comedy starts back up, I know what my merch is. It's going to be bagged at a coffin. Well, it's funny, too, because you do look very, like, handsome. but he didn't say working in a coffee shop he said standing by a coffee bag no he said on a coffee bag the mascot too charles be the mascot for the coffee coffee's very hipster and also he's brown it works two ways i only meant it the one way but it damn sure worked both ways who was who was the guy there was a guy there was a mascot for a who was very racist i remember puncher you remember what i'm talking about the columbian guy by a donkey wasn't he like yeah the

Colombian guy, he'd ride it, he'd hold a dog. Juan Valdez. Okay. One Valdez. It was, I just want to make sure. Hey, my people's coffee is real good. You know, Indian coffee. All right.

I just want to make sure everybody knew I was referencing like an actual thing when I brought in the donkey and just made it even more racist is what I'm saying. Oh yeah, it was Juan Valdez. Yeah, him and that donkey, they drew them. I like the cartoons. Don't that kind of look like, too, Char, that cartoon? Like, I mean. It honestly looks more like Curly Bill.

Maybe we're looking at a different cartoon. Well, his face is white in the cartels. Like, look. Yeah, that's the one I'm looking at. You can't really say that. Yeah. Yeah, I can do that. That's a compliment.

I'll take it. Look, man. I thought you looked nice. So replace the donkey with an elephant. Obviously. Yes, it goes without same. A few edits. Just a few edits.

Yes. A few small edits. God. Okay. Here we are. Mercy. I can't get my Zoom to come back up so I can stop my screen share. There it is.

Ah, man. Too-Shar, what's up, buddy? Welcome to our country music podcast where we're trying to undo stereotypes about our people. Okay, well, I should be helpful in that regard. Right. I have a prediction that this is the first one, Tushar hates. Yeah, me too. I think so, too.

I agree with your prediction. Let's find out if we're right. Too Sharr. Do you hate it? Think about it. Yeah. I wouldn't say I hate it, but it has been my least favorite one so far. Because it's not.

It's interesting. Yeah. You've never heard this one either? Like all the songs we listen to, you've never heard them before, right? Never ever before. Yeah, you're probably kind of disappointed in us, weren't you? The rest of them have been real silly and fun and out there or whatnot. Yeah, my bad.

He's like, God damn it. No, no, no. He's trying to make me cry. No, no, no. Just, you're crying in my coffee. I think your goal, your goal is, I'd imagine, is to have like a well-rounded sample of country music. And this is. Every white guy.

It feels like it touches a part that none of the other songs even attempts to do, which is cool. I like that. It came off when I first started listening to it. I thought it was going to be one of, of those like for some reason i'm always making this parallel to rap music or rmb with this music because i'm racist and i'm like no white people what's the black equivalent and this guy reminded me of like genuine almost like his like almost sex tim mcgraw has been called the genuine of country music yes that's his uh that's his indian name um he wrote indian outlaw or

he didn't write it he's who put out indian outlaw by the way your theme song it's the same album. Same guy, same album, yeah. But I think the R&B thing also probably comes a little bit, man, from the music itself. That's a legitimate comparison to certain aspects of country music. Well, there's more violin in this one. There's also the fact that both Tim McGraw and Genuine, known for getting in jeans. Absolutely. In them their genes.

Getting in them their jeans, yes. Tim McGraw and Genuine have that in common. Tim McGrawls got another song called I Like It, I Love It That's kind of like the pony of 90s country I would agree with that Yeah like obviously nothing compares to pony But I'm saying

That song really hits It's uh It was going for the same type of thing I think You know Yeah I like it, I love it I want some more of it Yeah the Christian version

Talking about that ass Yeah exactly So I like the song in terms of like What it gets into It gets a little like I'm obviously looking at it for a comic purpose, but it's like a little like ambler alerty. It gets a little weird off the bat

where it's like what is happening. Like they're going fishing with a bunch of kids. They're going fishing with a bunch of kids and he wants to keep one of them. There's a moment of like, what are you even talking about? What do you mean keep her? So it's funny. I totally know what you're saying because like nowadays, for sure,

if a, if you're, if a dude in rural, Tennessee is taking his son on a fisher trip and the neighbor girl walks up with a fishing pole. Yeah, it should sign up for debate. And the dude just goes, right, and the dude just goes,

yeah, get in the truck, honey, and just takes her and leaves and doesn't talk to anybody and just goes to the lake all day or whatever it comes back. Like, yeah, that's a problem. But like... A crime even. A crime, absolutely. But in like in 1994, maybe don't see that long ago.

This was like, nothing about that was even a little bit weird. in my opinion back then. It was almost like the dad feels like he's going to be an asshole if he doesn't take the little neighbor girl on the fishing trip. Yeah, and nobody said keeper. Also, there's maybe some subtext that's missing.

Like, you know, they knew, like, it could be understood that like the neighbor knew that they were sitting their daughter down there. It was an arranged thing, and Lil Johnny is just now finding out for the first time. That's true. That too, yes. Yeah, I've definitely always interpreted that way,

but either way, the word, the phrase keep her does not. He said, we can't. We can't leave her behind. I know you don't want her to go, but someday you'll change your mind. Too short, do you just think every time a white man is like looking to take a little girl anywhere, it's kidnapping? It's a little bit. That might be a city thing. You know what I mean?

I think that's a city thing. Yeah, I think it is. I think that's a city thing. I can see if you grew up in a city, the idea that a girl could just show up and go with you and your dad somewhere without a phone call being made is fucking weird. For sure. Yeah, I agree. But it wasn't. I think even, probably even in our hometowns in 2021, it's probably weird now.

Out where my sister lives on Old Bethel, I guarantee you there's a stray girl walking around with a goddamn fishing pole right now. And like if she just, you know what I mean? Like, that's just happening. And somebody will pick her up. Yeah. No, we used to, too sharp, before you got on here, I was talking about living in basically the projects of my hometown with my mom and all us trailer babies playing together. and we were like, I was like seven or something. And every morning we'd all just like, just leave and we'd just go do whatever.

We did too. All day long until, until sundown, no phone, no phone, no one ever checked. No one cared. Nobody cared. No one had a clue where we were or cared at all. And we would come back 10 plus hours later as like seven and eight year. Mal nursey as ultimate. So thirsty.

Yeah, right. So thirsty. Yeah. So all I've had is kind. It's nature. Dude. Drinking that creak water. I remember my aunts because my aunts was my neighbors.

All my neighbors were aunts and uncles being mad at me that I was thirsty. And even at eight being like, that's a fucked up thing to be mad at me about, Aunt Lisa. Stop coming in the house. I need water, bitch. It's 88 outside. They really, for real, did just think us getting water was dumb as shit. They're trying to watch their stories. And then you keep having to dip water.

Dude, literally, like, I know this is off subject as fuck, but, like, literally it took a kid in Texas dying of a heat stroke on the football field before our coaches would be like, all right. I remember that kid dying because I was in high school playing football to it. And coaches were mad as fuck. Like, second string in, I guess. They were like, fine. I remember Coach McElhaney, who I love,

but he had to give some sort of speech that was, just like, well, you know, now because of all this, well, we have to, we now have to give you guys the option to get water if you get thirsty. And they thought we were just going to like take advantage of it. And like, I mean, yo, I went to get water when, but you know what? I needed to go get water that whole time. Dude, I swear to God, I'm not making this up. After that same kid died that you're talking about and it was a big thing,

we showed up to practice that day. And our coach came out there and he's like, well, boys, y'all just turn around and go home. it's too hot to practice football. Guess that's how it works now, isn't it? Can't practice football when it's hot no more? And he's like, I'm just kidding. That ain't how we do things around here. You'll get water.

You'll get some damn water. But we're going to have practice. It's like a child has lost. It was the beginning of the PC police movement right there. This is bullshit. And then how bad did y'all get y'all's ass whip that Friday? Oh, so bad. Because of the water.

That's why, you pussy. Yeah, making us pussy's drinking all that water. Well, anyway. Did your coach shift to like two years later? Because that happened, I was probably a freshman. And our coach was like, yeah, God damn it, I guess you got to have water. And by my senior year, he totally was acting like we was the ones that wouldn't drink water. And now that was his problem.

No. I can't, you boys need to drink you. I've been telling you all to drink your damn water. It's like, you've been telling us to drink the water for a year. No, that wasn't us. They never cared about water. They actually carried over. that carried over into the NFL

where like people are just dying of brain damage and they're like next season big trades I don't think the water conversation was bad I was about to say I was about to say dude yes that that was another thing man

with high school football back then they literally used to when we do drills blade with your hand yes yeah he'd be like we ain't into this goddamn drill until somebody lays some fucking lumber out here goddain like literally

until two until two children fucking ram their skulls into each other so hard that one of them's ears bled the rest practice was not over and y'all you all are like what's wrong with Drew why has he got so many

issues no we know yeah I know exactly why they switched me to defense in college and I was like Jesus fucking Christ this is fucked up your brain is mush boy oh it's mush Speaking of mush, Brian, I guess we should get back. So back to the song.

So this is what I liked and I thought was really sad about it. It was like the journey of a woman or girl through life through the eyes of a boy and a man. And he loved her the whole time. So it was like almost like a beautiful. I'm sure you guys already talked about that stuff. No. But like it was a it was almost romantic from a, it was almost romantic from a, a general male perspective.

You run into these like creatures and then they, you fall in love with them and then they die in this like horrible ending. And you're just like, what the fuck? How do you make a song about that? It's kind of tough to pull. Let's just say it's tough to pull off, although I didn't love it. So, okay, I want to come back to a couple things you said. First one is, no, just so you know, no, we haven't talked.

Really all we talked about was our varying opinions on the song. Me and Chobo said, revisiting it as adults, it got us, in the fields and just devastated us with its, uh, with its beauty and sadness, too, Shar. And Drew said, yeah, it didn't hit for me when he circled back to it. But, uh, I just thought it was a little cheesy. It is definitely. And I said, if I heard it for the first time as an adult, yes, it's saccharine, cloying, cheesy as hell, all that shit for sure.

But having the nostalgia factor too, I just really like this song. But enough from a songwriting perspective, it also does that thing. So the song's called, Don't Take the Girl. first verse is about an eight-year-old boy meets eight-year-old girl and he tells his dad don't take her with us this is our fishing trip don't take the girl as in i don't want her to go right and then the second one they're 18 their high school sweethearts a mugger attacks them and this time he said dramatic laugh yeah and this time he says uh he's saying to the the robber the assailant he's saying take my car take my wallet take my watch take whatever you want just

just don't take the girl. And then at the end, they're 25, having their first child, she starts to have issues with it. And he prays to God. And he says, take my breath, take the heart from my chest. Just take me, do whatever. Lord, but don't take the girl, meaning don't let her die. I dig that like, you know, I'm sure there's a name for that in songwriting,

where it's the same phrase, but like, different meanings every time. applied, like reapplied every time. In battle rap, they call that the flip. Right. That's a very different thing. Well, there you go. And you're supposed to do it to the other guy. It's when you do it to the other guy.

And you take his place and do it. And then the second thing you said too sure, you were like, it has this super sad ending. Do you all, I think this is one of those like sort of like the ending of inception type endings, I think. Or the video. You decide. Have you seen the video? I definitely have seen it, but not, I don't remember it. The director of the video, as I recall, chose that she lived.

Okay. Oh, really? Do you think that makes it canon? Like, is that official? Man. Because the songwriters don't have anything to do with that. Right, especially when they don't, they're not there. Like, Tim McGrath didn't write it.

It would be one thing that Tim McGrath written a song, and then he was there on set and obviously he had some. But he didn't. Hey, that's, now that's from memory. Let me make sure. Now, for the record, like, hold on. Wait, what? What, what? Too sharp.

What did you say? well you said is that in canon what is that i've not haven't really said that can't c-a-n-o-n not like a canon you fire but like well what does that mean like of a story the official canonical version would be like like in star so like in star wars i watch star wars rebels which is a good show but none of that stuff can happen in that that's not actually true to the actual story the canon like the star war's canon is official you know what i mean yeah okay so like official yeah record of the thing is the can of the lyrics i've never known something that tushar didn't know this is the i know ever happened congratulations thank you he thought it was a printer we were talking about

you got you got something about the canon m 5700 it's good model uh it's some problems out of for the record i like i choose to believe that because of the genre this song is in that the writers like, I want people to think she lived, you know, like I want it to have a happy ending, but I sometimes like to think she's dead. Dude, she's dead, dude. I'll take the negative answer. The music video does not make it clear. I was wrong.

My little eight-year-old mind needed it to be that, but. It's funny, because I think that, I think that as a kid, I, I mean, maybe I'm misremembering. I don't, but I feel like I took it for granted that she was dead. But now as an adult, I'm saying, I think it was. definitely intentionally, like, you know, check your own ending type of. Right. The answer is up to the listener type of thing. It's still not 100% clear, but I think

this music video killed her. The adult in me is like, well, she died because there's no God. Like, that's how that would go. Yeah, also like fucked his story. Come on. Make it happen. Well, yeah, definitely. Yeah, right. What for sure

didn't happen was God killed him and saved her life. he can't do that. That would have been wild. God just showed up. Okay, motherfucker. You could have asked for it in a way different way. You know, like while we're wishing for stuff,

maybe you get to live too, but that's not what you said. Yeah. Deals a deal, motherfucker. I make the rules. Hey, but at least the Celtics are going to win this year, right? Oh. Did you?

Also, just so. you know, I just made that baby gay. And when he grows up and dies, he has to go to hell for that. Also, I did that. But that's where you'll be already. So that's fun. Oh, anyway, country music. I like it.

Yeah. That's my God. That's my version of God right there. That one checks out to me. Did you guys know that Blanco Brown? That means white, brown. White Brown. White Brown.

Well, his first single The Get Up was released in April and has over 50 million. He is a black country music singer who mixes it with R&B. So he might call himself White Brown on purpose. He remade the song. Do y'all want to do a blind react to it? Yes. Hold on. He's into R&B.

And Tushar called Tim McGraw Genuine. That's amazing. Dude, I thought this was, okay, before you play that, Yes, I do want to do this. A couple things real quick. That, we said, Blanco Brown, I was like, okay, this is one of the other songwriters from the, that sounded to me like a 90s country songwriter. Like, definitely a white dude whose name was White Brown for no, you know, for some reason. I'm way more excited about what actually Blanco Brown is.

The second thing I was going to say, y'all remember, it was absolutely a thing in this era for R&B and country to share love songs. Yeah, Insink and Brooks and Dunn did it. Brian McNight. Dude, every boy's to men hit. God must have spent a little more time on you. That Brian McKnight one and the guy wrote it and dedicated it to his dead wife. What was that? Brian McNight.

Brian Midnight Power. Jesus Christ. Any time or back at one of those two? No, it was a lot darker than that when you think about a dead wife. Y'all remember all for one? Oh, yeah, yeah. And John Michael. Oh, yeah.

Group. Yeah, they had one. What, fuck, what was it? I swear, right? Yeah. I swear by the stars and the sun. I don't know why I'm doing the Aziz version. That was the R&B slash country song, the one show set.

There was a bunch of them. It was like the thing. God must have spent a little more time on you, Alabama and Insink. Yeah, you said, yeah, that's the one I was talking about that you said earlier. The one I'm high, I'm sorry, is back at one. And I'm high. Back in one son, that was my jam. That song still hits.

I guess it wasn't Brian McKnight. What was that country? Go ahead. I'm just saying when Brian McKnight goes up like two whole octaves there at the end, that really hits for me. Yeah. Dude, that song rules. I fucking love that song.

There was a huge boys to men one too. I know there was. At least I thought, I don't know, maybe I'm not, I'll make love to you. Remember I'll make love to you? Some country motherfucker did that song too. Anyway. Probably radical flat.

Man, I got to find this one. I can't. I'll find it later though. The Blanco one? No, I've got the Blanco one. There was a song that a dude did. It was really sad. Well, anyway, it doesn't matter.

Here we go. I'm going to share it. I got to make sure I share with Sam. Yeah. So this is Blanco Brown covering. Don't take the girl. No, I think it's a duet. I'm pretty sure.

I've never heard this either. With Tim McGraw? I think so. Well, this is about to be one or two things. And I looked at up. Blocko Brown is a R&B slash country artist. Yes, and he has produced Pitbull and I had it pulled up in a go. And fought them.

Chris Brown. He's produced Chris Brown and Pitbull. Sorry, it was right there. Boy, it was for sure. You got me good with that. Oh, hell you're So bad That was not so bad

Was it? This is like an explanation video? Yeah, of what he does Like he's singing to honkies like See, that wasn't so bad, was it? Was that him that On his daddy Was taking him fishing

Another thing I just remembered This ain't the first time That McGraw's done this. Tim McGraw- Nolly had a Nelly song He did. Too sharp, what about that? On Nellie's album.

I forgot how weird Tim McGraw looks as an old man. It's because he's got professional. He's got teethies. Yeah, because he's ribs. His dad is how I know we got. He looks like letter Kenny Chaston. Yeah. Yeah, Barbie.

He looks like Cowboy Ken, Kendall. Cowboy Kendall. Kendall. Cowboy Kendall. Got it. Yeah. I was like, who the fuck is Cowboy Candle? I thought you had a date cut for me.

I'm gonna be honest. I was that impressed. I'm underwhelmed. I'm completely underwhelmed. Louis C. Caj's my guitar. Go forward a little bit. This is like a crescendo or something.

I'm gonna be real. He sounds like when black kids on TikTok make fun of country music. I mean, it very much, it's a weird song for two men to be stinging at each other. Right. Like, without guitar, just standing there, like, arms barren. It's a bit, I was listening to Sam Bush this past. I was listening to Sam Bush this week, and he's got this song on one of his latest records that's the, the hand might killed country music, like, as soon as the artists in the front where they're not

playing their guitar anymore. They've just got a hand-mind. And ever since I've been listening to that, I'm like, I'm no more when I see a man just standing there singing, I'm like, you don't, you don't. But what's funny about that to me is like a whole lot of them, maybe they've stopped by now. But for a while, it was a thing, I get, maybe because of that sort of opinion people held or something, it was a thing for them to stand. They wouldn't even play.

They would stand there with a guitar around them. Yeah, not play it. And not fucking play it. Like, play like two chords when the song starts. And then just stand there holding a guitar but just singing the whole time. It kind of hits for me. You like that better than just the absence. You're like, listen, give us a little something.

It kind of looks cool. It's like they're like, I can't be bothered to get to this right now. I'm too busy hitting. But I do have it in case I really need to hit. You know what I mean? My favorite thing about this podcast is we get 90s country and 90s Corey. Just fucking two sharp belongs on a coffee bag and men aren't aren't not sing to each other. God damn it.

I have regressed a little bit in this episode. Also, what about them pit bull fight? You all know who does that. That was a redneck thing. I know, you hit. I can see how all of it could have gone the other way. He's got an album out called Honeysuckle and Lightningn Bugs. I got to say it's a great fucking album's name for a country album.

For sure. I will say if you haven't seen the video, you must. And the second part when there's an assault at the old picture show. Yeah. Guess what ethnicity

the attacker is. It's some vague. Is it the one I picture it to be every time? No, actually. I don't know if you can pull it up. By that, by that, I mean, what I think in 94 country

would have done. Right, yeah, yeah. It's right around minute, like right before minute two. Actually, no, I can see it being an... Ready? Yeah. It's cool. Up.

Scary. I think he's white. I think it's just dark in there. He was tan. I don't know, man. Give it a second. Did he have a kangol on? Hold on.

Was it too sure? That was the end of that bird. right? So, yeah. Yeah, he doesn't come back, don't it? Yeah, he comes back. He comes back. They always come back.

Oh, he's black. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's a black dude. God. That's a black dude. Damn. Damn it.

Come on, man. By the way, that's a perfect lesson right there. Can we get one more look at it, Drew, real quick? Okay, no, no. You want to go back and look at it? Roll that beautiful bean footage. We can zoom in if you want, but that's a perfect lesson of why ID's don't work in fucking court most of the time.

We're like, what is that guy? I'm not even sure. It's he's a black guy. Yeah. Go back. All right. I'll go back. Had he been a Hispanic guy, is there any doubt what Corey would have said just a second ago instead of roll that beautiful bean footage?

The mode, the mode Corey's in today. Hilarious. Yes, I'm putting this one off on you. Yeah, right. Right, right, right. Your shitty idea is now something I would have said. Yeah, yeah. I mean, actually, I don't know now.

Is there another shot from earlier? Can we please just go back earlier? It's the back of his head earlier, but I'll go back. Because this is kind of important to me. Yeah, enhance, please. Yeah. Enhance. Fucking enhance, Drew, hit the enhance button.

I don't know how to make it bigger. Hold on. What am I doing wrong, boys? You just tap the keyboard a couple times while saying enhance. Enhance, yeah. It's like you ain't never even saying. Command. E.

Manchi. Actually, Tushar, for real, what is it he can do to enhance? You can't do that. I know. I know. Look at him. He's doing it. That's a black guy.

That's a black guy. I don't know. I don't know if it is or not. Well, this certainly is a jury of his peers. So we're going to go with black guilty. That's the point. That's the point. We're saying earlier in the verse when he first shows up, we only ever see the back of his head.

I'm pretty sure. Let's look. Yeah, I'm not convinced just yet. Out. Well, my computer's freezing. There we go. Yeah, further. The point is he's not white, clearly.

I don't know, man. Well, if they did cast a white guy, they definitely cast the darkest white guy with, like, the biggest features that they could on fucking purpose. Well, I mean, only white dudes shoot people in movie theaters, so it's not correct. Yeah, they're getting mugged outside of it, though.

Oh, right. But, yeah. Well, then it's fine. No, I'm like, I'm not surprised. That's, I think that's the best thing. This makes a lot of sense. Yeah, I mean, I did a real good job of not letting us know. But why would they, like, I know would they make him ethnically ambiguous?

Yeah, as opposed to just, I know it was a completely different world then, but I just feel like. Hold on. Now, let's look at it. I don't know, dude. I don't know about that. She looks a little turn. on. I think he's black. I love this podcast. Yeah. I just saw a different angle that made me kind of reconsider. I don't know. Yeah, there's a, there's a, there's a Eastern European thing going on too.

I know it's a completely different world and nobody gave a shit back then or anything. I recognize that. I just still feel like I don't know. They would have had to go out of their way to cast a black guy in this role. In Nashville. In country music, in the country music world at that time. Yeah, it's almost It's almost like which racism is it? Maybe it's a white guy in blackface. They didn't want to hire a black guy, but they obviously wanted to depict reality. Jesus Christ.

Yeah, you meant their reality. Well, I guess we're never putting this episode out. Too sure. Yeah, we've been on one this episode. We, that's mostly been Corey. I haven't done nothing wrong. And then you throw it at, Corey. And Tushar's always the.

way. Too Sharr just brings this out of us and he knows it. Everything that I said, I can defend and I was, whatever the one, and whatever the one you thought that didn't hit, I meant the other one because all of them they could go either way. And I, whatever. It's Tooshar's fault. It is.

It is too Shar's fault. Too Sharr makes us this way. And he knows it. Like, that's what he. And if he fails, he just pretends one of us has done it in public all the time. that's my favorite game that he plays, screaming white power in our accent, and then looking at us,

like you can't believe we did it. Right. Well, that sums it up. Thanks, fellas. Love you guys too. It's a good joke. Let's,

let's wrap it up here before something worse happens. So I like the song, fine. It is in that vein. You were talking, out wanting to do different types of songs. The sad country song, the heartbreaking country song, I mean, that's a cliche that that

genre has earned. And this is an attempt at a throwback at one. I think it's a little cheesy. I think you do too. Yeah. I would say it's slightly cheesy, but it's a crazy story this guy got away with telling. Like it spans a whole lifetime. There's death.

There's, I mean, like, this is a tack. Like, it's, yeah, it's an interesting story. And I just like that they casted a minority in the middle, just to be funny. Minority in the middle, that was actually a pilot that CBS tried. Middle-ish. Early 2000s, yeah, didn't really work. Don't take the girlish. And then they flipped it.

Primish. What about Tushar? Did you notice, I was one of the answer you about this, Did you notice that he didn't offer his life in exchange in the middle part? Like he was like, God, you can kill me, but he did not tell the mugger. Kill me, buddy. Because he didn't want to have to deal with childbirth. Yeah, he was just like, here, dude, take the money.

But he was like, yeah. Yeah, he still wanted to live before he was married. Y'all, what if the baby was the black guy who attacked the middle part? And that's what they left. out, man. Who's sure is a Tim McGrath Truther. I can't wait to do Indian Outlaw with you. God, that we're going to have to wait like 20 episodes at least.

It's so funny that that's on the same album as Indian Outlaw. I had some bangers on there. That's wild. Yeah, I didn't know that that would be a thing. It's a possibility. Hushar, we told, I'm sure we probably have. I know I've told the story multiple times, definitely on our regular podcast, but that at least the anecdotes,

that I heard was that Tim McGraw's entire career hinged on Indian Outlaw. Have I told you that? The story goes is I heard it on like a VH1 program or CMT program. I don't know if it's true. That Tim McGraw kind of like finagled his way into a meeting with some big country music record executive. You know, he kind of lied his way in there. He wasn't supposed to be there because he was a total fucking nobody and had no prospects. And he went in there and played that guy.

Indian outlaw and that guy signed him on the spot was like you're going to be a star kid or whatever and like it the way the story was told it's like he's in the lobby sweating bullets you know now you're supposed to be there and he knows it all comes down it all comes down to this song and and and knowing that story and knowing in my head that that song was Indian outlaw how half Cherokee and Choctaw how hilarious would it be if they had given him a contract and then taking it back like right after that. I can't wait to do that song. I cannot wait to do that song.

Too sure, another thing you may not have known about Indian outlaw. Lord Tim McGraw is that his dad is professional Major League Baseball pitcher Tug McGraw, but they were estranged. So it was not a situation where his daddy got him a contract. Like he, so he had everything riding on

and outlaw, including proving to his dad that he should have hung around. While his dad was not giving a fuck, banging whores and drinking highball whiskey in a hotel lobby, but they had a reunion and it made for a good song. Yep. Which song?

It was a, oh, damn it, what was that Tim McGraw song he dedicated to Tug McGraw when Tug died. Wasn't it the 30 years one? With my next 30 years? Live like you were dying. That one. Oh, that was a Tug McGraw tribute. Yeah, the whole video is Tug pitching and going through cancer and then dying.

That's. Can I say some thing? Yeah. Can I say something? One of my favorite names is probably Tug. That's good, isn't it? Because there's always like, what does that mean? With Indian names, or at least are like Hindu names, there's like, there's always a meaning to the name.

What's to Sharma? It means like the morning frost, calmness in the morning. I get the, I get the frost part. The cold morning. Cold, yeah. Cold, gray, you don't want to get up or you want to sleep in? Well, a lot of English names, like if you trace them back, there's meaning, but American names, anything that came, came about in America. No, son.

My daddy was a boat. She likes pills. That's what it means. That's what, yeah, my name means, according to Drew also. because I have a white trash name and it don't mean anything. It's what her mom was snorting off of. What his mom was snorting pills off of.

Yeah, nowadays you name your kid after someone who was named after something. Like you just like the name. But yeah, like Corey don't mean. I was apparently, there was a little kid went on Johnny Carson and his name was Corey. And they were like, that's cute. And there you go.

Yeah, but I bet Corey has meaning in like Gaila. or something. It means hollow. Really? Yeah. Gaelic. And it means dweller in. It says dweller in or near a hollow.

You're holler. Holar. Holar, Corey. Yeah. There's a big huge void right in here. Yeah. I believe Trey started as, it's like junior, but for the third. If you're whatever the third and like the nickname for that was Trey, but then it got

bastard. I think your parents wanted to call you, they wanted to call you tree but just misspelled it. I mean, they literally misspelled Trey,

so yeah, it's not that far off. They decided on Trey and spelled that wrong. So, you know, sure. It's,

uh, oh my God. Drew is literally a Druid name and it means strong and manly. Oh my God. No, it's downed.

Yeah, it does. You're making it. I'm reading it right now. Uh, sorry. You're typing it on Wikipedia right now. Yeah.

Sorry, pill snort. Tushar, what's the, is there like an Indian equivalent to tug? Like, are there Indian names that are old boyish? Yeah, there's some, like, Randy. Oh, he froze. Look at how he froze, too. Yeah, look at him. He'll come back.

And the poor casts. God damn it. Yeah, all we heard was poor cast and you froze. Yeah. You're talking about poor people, so I definitely want you to circle back. because I imagine it'll be good. No, but like there was this kid in India and he was one of our servants because you get servants, even if you're not that rich, because it hits over there.

There's some way to go around. Yeah, right. And one of the guys' names was Balti, which is bucket. It literally is the noun for bucket. And it was the first time I'm like, yo, hold up. That is just apathetic name. It was just like, all right, I was going to call it something. Yeah, mob bucket.

You had a slave name bucket? Yeah, he did. Drew does mean strong and manly, sure enough. You didn't think I was going to make it up? That's what I can go with? Yeah, yes for sure. It also says this is a very funny line right here. There have been Drew's in several iconic movies, such as, two examples, such as

deliverance and steel magnolias. Oh, God, that's, yeah, that's it. Too sharp. Bucket. Did he have any brothers or sisters or anything? Like his brother... Yeah, his sister whore. I like Turlow. His brother, his brother, master's wrath.

Oh, that hit for me. Oh, man. Too Sharr is but a humble mustard farmer. Don't take the girl. Don't kick the bucket. Too Sharr, are there any country songs you do know already? Any at all from any era? Can you name a country song?

You used to make Bucket listen to David Allen Coe. bucket list bucket list I miss my slave that's what you called his to do list your slave to do list like working on my bucket list for you day yeah starts off

rub my goddamn feet yeah break the coffee with my on it in here God Jesus Christ wait what was the question are there literally any country songs

you know oh okay before you met us fuck so if you pull I mean I don't know I guess I don't know them by name but like if there's a lot of like

Dolly Parton songs Shania Twain Gart Brooks anything that's in major pop culture I would recognize and be like yeah I know that song I can sing along Did you say Garth Brooks

Garth Brooks Garth Brooks I remember Chenaya Twain being one of them that I really like and like but no one outside of maybe

Garth Brooks yeah we will get to Shania if we don't self-cancel this podcast that's it for me

guys I'm out of juice I'm out of energy last thoughts anybody no I think the song the song gets the song gets

two out of three Earnhardt's for me okay I'm gonna give it one and a half yeah I guess I'll go with two as well because it really, really hits for me, but not in the, like, kick-ass way that we're, you know. It's the only, it's the first one that hasn't gotten three out of three Dales.

Yeah. Too sharp. How many buckets? Give it a goddamn, how many buckets? Out of, how many buckets out of four? Three. Three buckets. But I don't know, how many do you have?

Jesus Christ. I got, I got backup buckets. Yeah. Bucket's on buckets. My buckets got buckets. Yeah. He keeps a few buckets. His bucket literally did have buckets.

Oh, my God. I'll give it two. All right. Just because a girl died. All right. Thank you all for tuning to the last episode of Bubba shot the podcast. Just want to remind everybody that we are in Raleigh, North Carolina this weekend. Go to will red comedy.com for tickets.

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