wellRED podcast - wellRED Presents: BUBBA SHOT THE PODCAST - "Fancy"

Episode Date: September 21, 2021

Riveting. Timeless. Transgressive. Progressive. Iconic. When Bobbie Gentry penned the incomparable "women's lib" country song in 1969 she likely had no idea that a venerable superstar by the name of R...eba MacEntire would record it two decades later. Drag queens. Single moms. Poor kids. Bad bitches. Whores. Church ladies. Everyone loves "Fancy" and we do too. Let's go. *Apologies for the drunken technical difficulties toward the end. We had one chance and we let you down.

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Starting point is 00:03:29 anyone who had been on those steps would surely have died or at least been horribly maimed. At the top of those steps, having just narrowly escaped, her demise was one Reba McIntyre. Now, Ms. McIntyre was only at that point one month removed from having beat COVID, the deadly disease raging through the world right now. If you go back to 1991, you will also find that a case of bronchitis, prevented Ms. McIntyre from getting on a private jet in which her entire band died. This young woman, beautiful, classic, wonderful country singer, continues to escape death. And you may say, well, the song most appropriate by her to capture this type of spirit that she has is I am a survivor.
Starting point is 00:04:23 And that would be a good guess. But for me, I think what most of the most of the same is, The host captures the spirit of Reba McIntyre is the song she chose to cover because she loved it so much and had to fight not one but two producers to get on a record. And that song is Fancy, which came out only one month before that fateful plane crash. The song embodies her spirit and embodies the idea of getting through and making something good out of every situation. Today on Bubba Shot the podcast, we are covering
Starting point is 00:04:59 not one of the best story songs in country music or in 90s country, but one of the best story songs in the history of the world. Fancy is the type of song where your mama would sing it, even though it was about a whore on her way to church, and your cool gay uncle would sing it and wink at you at all the cool parts. Fancy crosses all type of person. Black people love it, gay people love it, of course Southerners love it, Christians love it. It is truly a magnificent song, and today we have truly a magnificent episode because we are drunk.
Starting point is 00:05:38 Welcome to Bubba Shot the podcast. Let's get fancy. Bubba shout the podcast, and that's right, a show about country at its high. Don't expect no shit from 2005. Well, here we are. Oh, wrong podcast. It was 1990. All right, anyway. Do you have it in your mind?
Starting point is 00:06:00 You got the... No, I ain't wrote it yet. It'll be in there, though. You'll be here. All right. We'll have to already heard it, I believe. Here's what I want you guys to know before we get started. Reba McIntyre wanted to record the song we are covering today.
Starting point is 00:06:12 Fancy. It's a cover. It was first, it was written and recorded by Bobby Gentry in 1969. In 1984, my birth year, good year. Reba wanted to record it, and her producer said no. He said, we're not far enough removed from that version. You're new. You can't be a cover artist.
Starting point is 00:06:33 Six years later, she's got a new producer. She's a international superstar or a burgeoning one, and she's got a little bit more power. So in 1990, she puts it down on wax. The song itself had already been in the top 30, and it was a pop crossover, one of those 1970 country pop crossovers. There were a few of those.
Starting point is 00:06:51 Made to the Billboard 100 with Bobby Gentry. Rebas went to number eight on the country charts. Shards, sold way more copies, obliterated that one. And I would say in the minds of many Americans, our generation, kind of replaced it. It's the definitive version. I did not know it was a cover. 100%. Yes.
Starting point is 00:07:09 I got to look up right now. You said it was number eight on the country charts in 1990? 91. She recorded it in 90 and then it ends up coming out in 91. I'm looking up right now. What was above fancy? Yeah, I used to be one of those like hipsters that like. need to know.
Starting point is 00:07:26 Whenever somebody would cover something and it would be, even if it was great, I would, if I knew the original version, I would always go, well, like, no, it's not better because nothing can be better than the original.
Starting point is 00:07:38 No matter how good it is, nothing can be better than the original. And I've since like, especially with songs like fancy, I've since gone like, well, actually, that's not true.
Starting point is 00:07:47 Like, to me, like, for instance, the song, what's the one by the band, uh, that they covered Bruce Springsteen,
Starting point is 00:07:54 uh, Atlantic, Atlantic City. Like to me, I'm like, I love the Bruce version, but like the band. Way better. Way better. What are you going to do? And also with keeping in line with Bruce Springsteen, like, revved up like a deuce,
Starting point is 00:08:11 like, you know, BTO did that better than him. I thought that was. I disagree with that one. I thought that was Manfred. It was Man for Man. It was Man for Man. It was overly produced, but I still feel like, ah, that's kind of the definitive version. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:08:24 Shnade O'Connor, nothing compares to you. you all due respect to Prince. I fucking love Prince, but like you go, that's kind of her song now. Dude, you know what I'm saying? If I'm reading this right, and I'm not. You go to the billboard?
Starting point is 00:08:38 These are the peak. I can't find the one that's like, it's hard to figure out of it. You have to go by a month. No, it's just, it's just what they peaked at. So Fancy only peaked today. I can't find what was ahead of Fancy, but like in the year of 1991,
Starting point is 00:08:52 Reba had two other songs at least that got to number one and Fancy only got to number eight. That's crazy. Falling out of love and for my broken heart forever together by Randy Travis got the number one. I have some theories as to why. First of all, the radio wouldn't play it a lot because it's just a woman and it's like a positive
Starting point is 00:09:10 prostitution message, which we'll get into. Secondly, the radio made them cut out, and this is wild to me, the last verse. And the argument was, I think, in this wild, we don't want to, we'll have you a song about prostitution, but you can't make it. But the last verse is can't be a celebration. A, the best verse and B, the least like gnarly.
Starting point is 00:09:31 You know what I mean? It's only positive. But that's the one. They wouldn't let her do it. But like so, so what you're saying and like this is like I'm wrapping my head around this, they're going, we can have a song about prostitution. And selling your kid into prostitution. Right. But we can't have you be successful in that. Exactly. That has to be. That has to be. This, this song has to be a tragedy. Yeah. And like, I mean, I can wrap my head around someone going like, look, man, We can't sit here and glorify prostitution.
Starting point is 00:09:58 I can wrap my head around that. But like... It is not a glorification song at all. Dude, if you listen to the fucking lyrics, it's not a glorification of it. Not a little bit. It's also just such bullshit that like saying that like no one could have this experience whatsoever. No one could have ever got out of either of these situations. Let's go over that as we go through the verses, as we always do.
Starting point is 00:10:19 Real quick, wrapping up. And I know you've got big opinions. I'm sure, Trey. Yes. Too sorry to, too. about just real quick with covers. I think Ben, Harper's, Strawberry Fields Forever's better than the Beatles.
Starting point is 00:10:32 Fuck, I lost the other one. Fancy's better. One of the best cover. This is a little more obscure, but one of my favorite cover songs of all time is, uh, uh, Jeff Buckley's version of Hallelujah is better than Lerner Cohen.
Starting point is 00:10:45 Yes. And I love Lerner Cohen. God rest is all. Oh, dude, Jeff Buckley's version of that is the definitive version. Johnny Cash is hurt. That's a cliche. Absolutely. But, uh,
Starting point is 00:10:53 but, uh, This is a cliche, too, but Ryan Adam. Walk of Life. Shooter Jennings does a cover of Walk of Life by Dyer Straits. And it fucking rules. It's great. Do like Dyer Straits version of that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:05 There's also the Atari's who are a one-hit wonder. They do a cover version of Girls of Summer. By Don Henley. By that. And it fucking slaps. And for the record, I love the Don Henley version, too. But the Don Henley version was like back in the 80s when like, and this happened to country music too. Back in the 80s, I think everybody was just like super on coat
Starting point is 00:11:24 from 79 and they were like, we have to overproduce every fucking song. Like every song, we have to strip it bare bones and then add horns and add synthesizers and all this shit. And it all has to sound the exact same way. And Don Henley's Girls of Summer sound that way. And then when the Atari's did it, they did it punk. And you actually, when the Atari's did it, you actually heard the lyrics for the first time. Yes. Because they actually did it punk and it was great. Well, Pearl Jam. We were out on read on my...
Starting point is 00:11:54 My dad is hard. We hadn't driven very hard. I used to have a bit about that. Yeah, I'm not going to do. Straight ahead. What is the fucking name of that song? Oh, where. Oh, where.
Starting point is 00:12:08 Yeah, but that's not the name of it. Will I leave this world? No. Last ride or something. Last kiss. Last kiss. Last kiss. Also, our boy, hi, Carl, I don't ever want to grow up.
Starting point is 00:12:18 Yep. That's a Ramon's song. And I don't know that, too. When he did it, I genuinely thought that was his. Because it's. fits perfectly. Hayes let, I think it was Fred Eaglesmith, do Drunken Poets Dream.
Starting point is 00:12:30 Or was it? No, Ray Wally Hubbard. No, they wrote it together from what I hear. Well, that's fine, but. Because Ray Wiley Hubbard does a different verse on it than Hays does. Okay, but Hayes recorded it first, so I've always considered Ray Wiley's a cover. And I think it's better.
Starting point is 00:12:43 And I think Hayes would say that too. It did better. Maybe, I mean, Hayes was the one that I like. I like. Yeah, I mean, I like, I heard Ray Wiley?
Starting point is 00:12:50 I heard that one the first time. He's an older man. I just got a rougher voice and it just sounds dirtier I will say this. When I heard Ray Wiley's version, he does. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:13:01 but I'm wondering if too I have a question in on this. I mean, cover songs. Right Adam's Wonderwell, Oasis stopped doing it when they heard him playing.
Starting point is 00:13:07 That's how good it was. For Fancy, how the original, why is this one better? Is it from lyrically is from production? I'm going to be completely honest with you. I have never heard the original.
Starting point is 00:13:17 Yeah. But this not, let me tell you something right now. You seem pretty certain. Let me tell you some right now. The fuck, fuck. Don't not fuck 90s country.
Starting point is 00:13:24 90s country aside. This song is one of my favorite songs. Of all time across all genres. It was. I love this motherfucking song. I relate to this song. As a matter of fact, too short,
Starting point is 00:13:37 we'll talk more about that letter. Now, as far as what you're asking, I have heard it. I think this one's better because Reba's voice is a little richer, but it's also nostalgia for me. Part of the reason we didn't know the other one
Starting point is 00:13:47 is this was when we were six and five, seven and five before. You're right. At air time. And then it's classic. It plays for the next 10 years on country radio. And we didn't hear the other one. So this is the one that's beating our head for that nostalgia or whatever. But also it sold more copies and it had the iconic video, which if you're listening right now or watching on YouTube, go. Ooh, I got the birds. Go watch Fancy Reba McIntyre right now. It's a full movie. It's incredible.
Starting point is 00:14:15 She takes some creative license, which I appreciate. Like, there's nothing in the lyrics that say she's a movie star. and that driver's like, that driver's like, I'd say, yeah, I was like to say, like watching that video does kind of like, when you watch that video,
Starting point is 00:14:28 you start filling in holes in the song, and you're like, okay, like, oh shit, I didn't know that about them. And so like that video kind of, like now that you go back and listen to the song, it sort of informs all that stuff,
Starting point is 00:14:38 which is different. And I maintain that now, like, again, even though Bobby Joe Gentry wrote the song, it can evolve over time, and now that song means more. And now I go,
Starting point is 00:14:49 okay, she actually, went out and did all these other cool things. And like that, to me, that's what makes a song cool. It's a living piece of evolving art. Yeah, absolutely. And she made it her own. All right, let's get into it. You ready? Let's do some
Starting point is 00:15:02 lyrics. I remember it all very well, looking back. It was the summer I turned 18. We lived in a one room, run-down shack, on the outskirts of New Orleans. Can I just say right here from a poetic standpoint? This is borderline perfect in terms of the number of syllables.
Starting point is 00:15:18 Oh, yeah. Bobby Gentry's on. I was best to say we did mention that Bobby Gentry also wrote the original. She didn't just do it. She wrote and recorded. So, I mean, you got to give it up to that. Dude, by the way, at that, at that moment in country music for a woman to do that is literally insane. She also did the bill. And please let me say this.
Starting point is 00:15:37 I don't mean that it's crazy that a woman was able to do that. I mean, it's crazy that a woman was allowed to do that during that time. I mean, she borderline wasn't. What was her time? 1969 is when this came out. That's another reason this version is more popular is like, you wasn't getting airplayed because Bobby Gentry had a whole thing with a song about the birth control pill that did Loretta Lenn end up recording it? It was Loretta Lenn that ended up recording it.
Starting point is 00:16:00 And what happened back in those days was, so there was a thing called Paola that was going on, which basically the record producers would come in to, the radio stations made your song. Like if these Nashville radio stations didn't play your shit, you're not getting your shit played. There wasn't no internet to be discovered on. It's like when you're going to. I don't know if you know this, we didn't have TikTok. But I'm saying back in those days, It was like when you walked into a restaurant and they were like, we don't have a table.
Starting point is 00:16:22 And you shook their hand and gave them a 50. They're like, oh, we have a table. They would do that shit at radio station. Radio, fucking radio, terrestrial radio DJs used to make so much fucking money. And the thing is, they were loaded. It was a huge fucking boys club back then. So, like, all the dudes would come in there and they would get their shit played in, like, all the girls, like, they didn't have that fucking bandwidth for all that shit.
Starting point is 00:16:45 So, like, the guys would just keep getting their shit play. And not that, like, some of them songs weren't amazing. Especially if you're writing about birth control pills and making it anymore. They didn't want to hear that shit. They didn't want to hear that shit. Like they were just like, no, we're talking about going to the honky tongue. We're not trying to challenge anybody, especially from a goddamn woman. I mean, let's not like any of that ever really changed or is any different now.
Starting point is 00:17:05 We're talking about country radio. It's still very much of that. That's always been true. But to be fair, she had a pop hit on her hands because the pop people would play it because it was the 60s in women's lip. And so on that side of things, Bobby Dutcher got it out and actually had a decent, pop hit and then that made it get on the country charts and it did okay but that's right let's get back to it but it was a different time though where like nowadays if you put out something that was challenging to something that would go viral in a way but back then it would just get smashed to the fucking
Starting point is 00:17:36 ground if they could but that's what I'm saying they tried to smash her and she got on the pop charts bobby gentry man she was the son males all right here we go I remember it all very well looking back was it summer I turned 18 we lived in a one room run down shack on the outskirts of New Orleans. We didn't have money for food or rent. To say the least, we were hard-pressed. The mama spent every last penny we had to buy me you dance and dress. So immediately right there, what we've set up is that this is a hero story.
Starting point is 00:18:05 That it is one of these situations to where people can't even comprehend this, but that sometimes when people hoe, it's not that they desperately wanted to hoe. Hold on. We didn't even got into the hoe in yet. I'm just, okay, what we're setting up right here is, what we're setting up desperation. What we're setting up right here is we don't have a fucking thing else to do. We are sitting here and we can't, we have no goddamn money. It gets so much worse.
Starting point is 00:18:28 Of course it does. I'm saying like what you're talking about getting that, getting laid out. All I'm saying is like immediately in the first verse, we're setting up this story of like, I'm immediately on your team. I don't give a fuck what you're doing. You're in a desperate situation.
Starting point is 00:18:46 Whatever it is, you've laid it out. Poverty strict. Everybody, well, I will say everybody, but like there's country fans at least are hearing this going like, what'd you do next? You know what I mean? Like you got to, are you selling dope? Let's go. All right.
Starting point is 00:19:00 Mama washed and combed and curled my hair and then she painted my eyes and lips. And then I stepped into a satin dancing dress that had a split side clean up to my hip. It was Red Vail the trim and it fit me good standing back from the looking glass. There stood a woman where a half-grown kid. It had stood. That's fucking great. Now, let me ask you this. Great.
Starting point is 00:19:22 When we saw these lyrics earlier, okay, she just turned 18. Can I tell you that that's actually amazing for the time that Bobby Joe Gentry was writing that song? I know. And I say that because during that time, 1969, when Bobby Joe Gentry wrote that song, that line easily could have been 15. And it would have changed the fucking song. Even though it starts out with that line in my head, I always picture it as younger. Even like, I knew she was 18. it says it right there.
Starting point is 00:19:49 Of course. But you think of like a 15 year old or something. At that time when Bobby George Ginger was writing that song, if she had a said 15, everybody in the world would have been like word. You know what I'm saying? Like, because like 18,
Starting point is 00:20:01 18's a very now age for a woman to come of age. Like it was very different back then. Like we've heard all the goddamn stories of Jerry Lee Lewis and all these fucking like horrible things. Like, yeah, she married. He married his cousin. She was 14. They were like, ah, his uncle was cool with it.
Starting point is 00:20:17 What's, wild about that. Well, whatever. We don't want to get signed-tracked on that. But that kind of didn't hit for people even then, but go ahead. Yeah, but it was accepted for sure. All right. I think right here... Did I do a bad thing? Nope. Not at all. I think right here, before we get into where we're going, let's let's let's let the Indian outlaw comment on where we're at as a story drawing us in.
Starting point is 00:20:40 Some of the poetry we didn't get to. We're also, we know where we're at. We're on the outskirts of New Orleans. We know that we're poor and destitute. We're in a one-room shack. and then Mama has spent all the money on one dancing dress that we now made her know, made her look like a woman. And that's some good foreshadowing. But I don't think it's obvious upon First Read, if you don't know where this is going, where this is going. Yeah, it seems that she was a third party in this thing where she's, her mom is just pushing her, pushing her into this thing. And she didn't know what she was getting into.
Starting point is 00:21:10 It almost seems like a marriage situation. Right, right, right. She's forced. It's an arranged prostitute. Right. well it ends up potentially being that I think it is that probably arranged in the Constitution world
Starting point is 00:21:21 but I'm saying at this point in the song it could be a marriage it could be you know what I mean a debutante ball that you gotta get ready for and meet a man it's also yeah it's a little glorified she's glorifying what she went through she's not saying it in a way that's like oh my poor me she's saying this is what happened
Starting point is 00:21:37 it is what it is yeah well and she gets back to that later about people judging it which I think there's another reason the fucking radio wouldn't let that third verse him, but let's... Speaking, when I was a kid and everything, I thought it, like, was a debut top ball situation. You know what I mean? Just like go find a man at a debut top ball,
Starting point is 00:21:56 and she found a rich man. I thought there was a man already set up. I thought her mama gave her to an old man. I'm not going to lie to you when I was a kid. All, like, I didn't think none of that shit. Like, and, like, when I got to be a teenager, I heard it again, and I was like, oh, shit. But, like, the first time I heard it when I was, like,
Starting point is 00:22:14 seven or eight, like I thought, I just heard, here's your one chance, hands, and I'll love me down. Oh, you mean, you didn't know what any of it was about? Well, when I say, kid, I mean, like, in high school. I'm sure when I was seven or eight, I didn't. But it was one of those songs that, like,
Starting point is 00:22:27 later blew my mind when I got older, like that song aged with me. Because, like, the song hit for me so hard when I was a kid, but, like, the song hit for me is like this anthem, you know, like, I agree. Because it's one of those things were like, it's got an anthem vibe.
Starting point is 00:22:39 I agree. That's what I'm saying, like, you don't have to know what's going on to, it's one of those songs where you don't have to know any of the lyrics to know this song is a banger because it's so fucking good because when I was a kid, I would just see people like, here's you won't chance for it. And I would just hear that and I was just like, well, women would be like, that's about me. Yeah, right. Get your shit in. Get your shit, girl. And then like, I got like a little bit older in high school and like the, I started like, you know,
Starting point is 00:23:00 smoking weed and stuff. And I heard that song and I would, and it like, informed so much of my shit from my childhood. I was like, oh my God. And it made me respect at the time because I didn't know that it was Bobby Joe Gentry thing. I was like, fucking shit, Reba. My God, you're fucking way more awesome than I thought you were. Well, also the music video, I remember my opinion that, oh, she's giving her to an old man, was informed by that music video. The music video is iconic and goes along with it.
Starting point is 00:23:27 And that's another great thing about 90s country. For me, is music videos had just started, and I was very into them. Like, that was how I consumed my stuff. My parents were old. I watched music video. CMT, baby, country music television. All right, let's, uh, the Indian Equipzig. of this is your dad pushing you into med school,
Starting point is 00:23:44 like the early years. Putting a white coat on you in front of a mirror when you're a pudgy 16 year old or whatever. Signs Olympiad. Give me for what I do. But if you want to make it, you got to make some Jews. Sorry. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:24:06 That's more of a show business thing, honestly. Yeah. Here's a stethoscope that costs everybody in our town. You don't want to have to take all these calls from people that don't have their computers work. I get it. I understand. Well, next line. I understand.
Starting point is 00:24:26 I just know what you're going through. Here we go. Well, okay. Now we're to that hook. She said, here's your one chance fancy. Don't let me down. Here's you one chance fancy. Don't let me down.
Starting point is 00:24:39 Mama dabbed a little bit of perfume on my neck. and then she kissed my cheek. And then I saw the tears welling up in her troubled eyes as she started to speak. She looked at our pitiful shack and then she looked at me and took a ragged breath. She said, your paws run off and I'm real sick and the baby's going to starve today. God damn. That's what I'm saying? We're in a Western right now.
Starting point is 00:25:02 You know what I'm saying? Like this is not like when I get breath. Now that you're hearing this, you're like, like, you think it's CPD or whatever that is? Maybe or cold. Like, this is definitely Bare minimum taking place in the coal mines of Kentucky. But this is New Orleans. In the Shat.
Starting point is 00:25:17 The coal mines of New Orleans. I'm just saying where my head's out. The movie. With all this, my point is, my head is going, like, I think about this differently.
Starting point is 00:25:28 No, like, there's so many people that would go, like, you're fucking shipping your daughter out to be a horror. Fuck you. But, like, she lays it out so well to where,
Starting point is 00:25:38 like, look, she's crying. And she's, Like, listen, I don't want this to be the thing that's happening. But we can't fucking eat. We can't have. So you're going to have to go sell some of that sweet, sweet on the side.
Starting point is 00:25:52 Well, but it's not, that's the thing that's wild about this story. And it's not clear here in the video. I remember as a kid, like as I was piecing it together, again, I thought she'd given her way to an old man. But I was like, but that's so y'all can eat. Why? I mean, I'm jumping ahead a little bit. Why's mama got to die and the baby get being giveaway and all that?
Starting point is 00:26:10 And it's like, oh shit. She wasn't even doing it to save herself. It was literally, this is the only way I know to get you out of it. And it was almost like, and that actually changes the entire tenor of the song. It's selfless. Because, again, the first time I heard this song, or first time I, as an adult and I was like trying to decompress this song, I'm like, this mom sucks. Like, she's just trying to make a buck. But then you go through the song, it's like, no, the mom's not making anything.
Starting point is 00:26:35 The mom's going like, our fucking life sucks. This is the only goddamn way you have out. It almost alludes to if she wasn't sick, she would be doing this. Yeah, right. Simply put, I would do it if I could. And her face looks like smokers' lung, but yeah. All right, here we go. This is one of my favorite parts that I've missed as a young man.
Starting point is 00:26:56 She handed me a heart-shaped locket that said to thine own self be true, and I shivered as I watched a roach crawl across the toe on my high hill shoe. And it sounded like somebody else it was talking asking, Mama, what do I do? She said, just be nice to the gentle men, fancy. They'll be nice to you. And that's where, if you're listening
Starting point is 00:27:18 closely to the lyrics, this is not an old man or a debutante. It's them. But it's them. It's a bunch of dudes. It's hoard them. Yeah. Which for the record, we here on Bubba shot the podcast are very sex positive. We're very sex. We're very sex. Work
Starting point is 00:27:34 positive. Yep. Love horrors. Love them. Support them. Very pro-horre, yeah. Very pro-hor. But there are, like, there's a lot of them that, like, just that's not what they decided. It's what was decided for them. So I've got to, just since we're on this lyric, I'm just going to talk about myself for a minute.
Starting point is 00:27:55 So I used to. He used to be a whore. Let's put our lights down. Like, Crowder, everybody. I used to have this bit where I would talk about how white trash I was growing up and not really. how white trash I was. And I was talking about my first college girlfriend was rich. She was a rich girl.
Starting point is 00:28:17 But she wasn't. I just thought she was rich because, like, her daddy owned a body shop in Nashville or whatever, which was rich to me. So I was talking about how, like, when I was getting ready for our first date, I was in the bathroom, and I was singing. It's like, I was in the bathroom like, here's you one chance fancy. Don't let me down. And then I was, I said, just be nice to the sorority girl.
Starting point is 00:28:38 fancy. They'll be nice to you. But they weren't. No, they were. I'm good. Chinstrap played. Chinstrap played. I just mean sorority girls are usually mean, especially to a dude who's one of them. No, they're not. No, they're not. They were mean to me. What does
Starting point is 00:28:54 chin strap mean? I had a chin strap beard. Oh. Oh, no. Oh, no. All of them was nice to you? Yeah. My sister was also in that same show. Oh. See, my experience was the one you're hooking up with and one of her friends was nice to meet. the rest of them.
Starting point is 00:29:09 Now, the Degis, they were pretty, it was nice. But, uh, the Dollar Generals. But so I'm saying, I always, and there's another line later, but like, just having been such poor white trash, we're all kind of horrors, comedians, you know, anyway, I'm just saying, I've, I relate to this song, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:29:24 Absolutely. Had to get out of that. I got out of that shit. What was I going to do? You know who relates to it? I don't stay. That's what. You know who relates to it super hard in my experience,
Starting point is 00:29:32 uh, hanging out in Nashville with Teets at a lot of gay bars with, um, uh, drag shows. is drag queens, and you ain't fucking lived till you've seen a drag queen crush the fuck out of this song. For sure. Oh, I bet. Oh, dude.
Starting point is 00:29:47 I used to go to drag shows. Especially in Nashville, dude. Karaokey shit in Nashville, whatever, is wild. Because everybody's fucking sang there. Before Lady Gaga was a thing. Like, now that Lady Gaga is a thing. And I mean, I hadn't been to drag show in, like, a long time. Well, that's not true.
Starting point is 00:30:04 I got my butt finger to the drag show. But, like, Lady Gaga is still, like, a mainstay. drag shows as it should be it's fucking great. But when I first started doing comedy, I opened for a lot of drag shows and Fancy was definitely a thing, like you knew
Starting point is 00:30:20 someone was doing Fancy. And they would wear a red wig and they would go up there and they would fucking murder. And what was always wonderful to me is that I had so many of my straight, like not that I'm not straight, but like so many
Starting point is 00:30:36 of my straight, you know the, you know the like we're straight but like there's our buddies that are like straight you know what I'm yeah they're straight so like when I first started doing comedy we would go to this place called Alan Gold we would go to Alan Gold's and it was down the road from the comedy club and it was the drag bar and all my buddies I would be like y'all just need to come to Alan Golds with us and they would just be like wait that's the drag bar right and I was like yeah and they were like that's where the gay people hang out and I was like and also me and they were like no, I'm not, I'm not going on that.
Starting point is 00:31:10 I go, do you know that you don't have to, like, walk into the room and suck a dick, right? Like, it's cool. And then I would- You do on Wednesdays. And I would convince them, I would convince them to go, and they would finally go, and they would get there, and they would realize that there was $5. Long Island pitchers. Like, it's the cheap, like, every drag bar I ever been to has the best drink deals in the world. And then they would get there, and they would drink those pitchers, and they were like, oh, this ain't, this ain't that bad.
Starting point is 00:31:38 And then the show would start. And like almost every fucking time somebody would start doing it. Like there would be a drag queen doing fancy. And all my fucking redneck buddies would just get fucking so into it. And would end up like kissing one of the drag queens on the list. And I didn't do it. They were just like, yeah, come on her. I'm like, you got it.
Starting point is 00:31:58 Because we just get so drunk on long on ice teeth. So like that song was like such a part of the redneck, uh, fucking drag queen subculture that like kind of. intertwined. It's a very important song, is all I'm saying. It's very important. That was a beautiful story. Thank you. So much for telling it. Because it made me very happy. Thank you. I want to imagine your friends making out with
Starting point is 00:32:20 them. And then like the next day you did it too. For the record. You did it too. What I'm so proud of is that so many of my redneck buddies still to this day go to drag bars because they're like, they'll be like, mine, I'll tell you like, here's the deal. Like, you ain't got to do none of that stuff.
Starting point is 00:32:36 But like, them quires are a good time. Dude, I'm telling you. They don't rape. They're good kisses. Dude, I'm fucking telling you. I'm fucking telling you some of the most redneck house-built motherfuckers in Chickamauga. House built. But they do.
Starting point is 00:32:50 They build up. But those dudes are like every day with a hammer, they're like, I'm telling him, man, I'll go up. God damn gay bar. It's you, dude, for my money, $5. Pitcher a goddamn long on ice tea. Kiss a dude that has tities. Well, that's what I was going to say. This is a very inappropriate.
Starting point is 00:33:08 appropriate phrasing, but this is the porn category or whatever. Chicks with Dix is like a huge porn category for straight men. You know what I'm? I'll be, I'll let me tell you right now on this podcast. I've jacked off many a times to four titties. A chick with a dick. To a chick with a dick.
Starting point is 00:33:23 Four tities. I don't care. Yeah. There's four tities there. There's plenty of tities and I'm like, whatever. The tithes are nice. The dick's fine. Like most of the women you've dated, we need to move on.
Starting point is 00:33:33 Whatever. I'm just saying I've jacked off to some trans shit. Yeah, of course. Hell yeah. Whatever. I'm sex positive. Yeah. I got, uh,
Starting point is 00:33:40 what if you not jerked off to? Very little. There you go. That's actually not true. He told me. I definitely jerk off to my wife. He was miced up once and there was like sound people there and he was also drunk. It was late at night and he thought he was just talking to me for getting he was on the mic.
Starting point is 00:33:59 He was like, it was like, hey, Amber sent my pressure to tweeted earlier and I jacked off to it. That's pretty sweet, right. I jacked off to it. I've jacked off my wife, too, isn't that wild? That's adorable. And they're over there laughing. The crew's over there laughing at shit. He's like,
Starting point is 00:34:18 he's like coming out straight to you. Listen, I still love her. Listen, I still love you, but. I can't wait to clip this out. Key West, first time I've ever been to a drag bar, was not quite, I was comfortable, but not this drag queen just stuck her hand in the back of my pants and touch my butt hole.
Starting point is 00:34:40 Well, that's... And I stood straight up and then I sat back down because she threw me down. Yeah, because it's like a puppeteer at that point. Yeah, she made me talk. All right, here we go. Back to the horse on. You ready? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:52 She said, here's your one chance, fancy, don't let me down. Here's your one chance fancy don't let me down. Lord, forgive me for what I do. But if you went out, well, it's up to you. And don't let me down now. Your mama's going to move you uptown. Now, this is the first time we've had the full course with the hook and the mama. and all that.
Starting point is 00:35:08 I think it's very powerful. I do want to go back to some imagery. We didn't skip over, but I just want to point it out. I feel like, and I shivered as I watched a roach crawl across the toe of my high hill shoe. It's such a beautiful,
Starting point is 00:35:22 fucking image of the destitute she was coming from and where she was headed with that high heel. Right after that, when she says, it felt like somebody else was talking, asking, Mama, what do I do?
Starting point is 00:35:34 That's just so, like, evocative. You know what I mean? Like this song could have been a play. Right. You know what I mean? That's one of those, that's one of those instances where like it's a three and a half minute song. But like if you take this song and you give it to the best screenwriter, whoever, like Tennessee Williams, this could this whole thing could be a play. And that is so much of what, like so many 90s country songs that people shit on that we love, you go back up for a fucking second and look.
Starting point is 00:36:06 and look at the fucking story that these people are telling, and tell me that if you walked into a goddamn theater and heard this story verbatim, but without the music, you wouldn't think this was a goddamn compelling story, and that line right there informs all of that. Hell yeah, it does. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:24 And one thing we skipped about the drag bars, according to my friends, and there's no database, Fancy is like one of the three most common drag queen names in the South. Of course. There you go. All right. By the way, did you know...
Starting point is 00:36:37 What's number one, Dolly? I think it's... Some say it's Dolly, and some say it's either Dixie or Trixie. Hey, did you know also, and I learned this, listening to Dolly's America, that, like, the South has the highest percentage of LGBTQ people in it? How do they measure that?
Starting point is 00:36:56 Fuck, I don't know. They're probably asking pap-alls. Yeah, they're all gay. that was really good they're mine you fucking figured it out that was good in a survey of pap balls turns out the south has the highest
Starting point is 00:37:15 concentration of queers in the whole although I don't know a papal would absolutely tell you that that's California you know what I mean like where's all the queers at but they would only ask the papal about where he's at how many gays are around here everybody my whole family you've seen these kids got done yeah my papal
Starting point is 00:37:33 you've seen my grandson Drew Yeah. And that's all funny. Guy is a day as long. That's all funny and I believe that. But at the same time, hearing that information, I have to go, all right, why would that be true that all these people in the South have come out? Yeah, they were like, there's just a bunch of queers.
Starting point is 00:37:50 I can see it. It's more suppressed. But we leave too. We do leave. But I'm saying like, I have to think that it has something to do with what. A lot of letters in that now. I have to think it's, it has something. to do with what Dolly and what Reba and what a lot of people have done to people's identity in the South.
Starting point is 00:38:11 Dolly and Reba, let me think about this so I don't misspeak. Celine Dion's probably up there. I think Dolly and Reba are probably the two most common white lady covers or examples of drag queens. Dolly's the biggest, I mean, oh, but. Dolly is definitely the number one. I don't know. Dolly and Cher are the two biggest gay icons that have ever lived. Whitney Houston.
Starting point is 00:38:33 I don't know that. I'm pretty sure I do. Of gay? Yeah. Okay. Of drag queens. Okay, sure. But I, but I, like, this is, like, I'm just saying, like, these gay people were talking about what?
Starting point is 00:38:46 You just really put some steak on it at that time. These gay people were talking. They were talking about how, like, actually, like, if you look at the percentages of, like, the homosexuals in America, it, the percentage of, there's so many of them in the South. Really? And coming out. And I have to imagine. Oh, new coming out. If that's what it is, I now understand it.
Starting point is 00:39:11 Because they're only just now doing it. They would come out other places. You don't have to come out. You're just out. In other places, if it's a recent thing, then in other regions, they've been more comfortable doing it. Only now in the South are they comfortable coming out. Yeah, it's awesome.
Starting point is 00:39:28 I love that. And like, if you can point that. He's trying to make a sweet point. And we're like, no, hold on. No, but I believe. No, but I, but I'm saying like, if you can point that to songs like Fancy and people like Dolly, like it really makes me under, it makes me go, my fucking lifelong endeavor into loving country music is worth so much more because of how much these people mean to other people. And that's like, because I've just always been like, I hear country music. I get drunk.
Starting point is 00:39:58 This is great. And like you hear song like fancy. And that's, when I hear fancy, I go, fuck yeah, here's you want. and I want to get drunk. But like there's people hearing that song that are very different than me that takes so much more from that. And then they go, I can fucking tell my parents that I'm gay. Like, that's amazing. Or I can tell my parents that I want to fucking suck dick for money.
Starting point is 00:40:21 That's amazing too. You know what I'm saying? Sure. Am I wrong here? Well, I just don't know like the connection I'm trying to make. I know I do as far as like the Dolly and everything. I don't know that a gay kid listens to fancy and goes, I can tell my mama, I'm gay.
Starting point is 00:40:38 I guess what I was, because of fancy. I guess all I was saying was like, it's the power of feminism, too. Like, and I was equating feminism to homosexuality, which is probably wrong. But all I'm saying is like,
Starting point is 00:40:49 all I'm trying to say is that these songs that we grew up loving and we grew up thinking were just pure country music that we love to hear at honky talks. Turns out the gays like them too. All I'm saying is that they're more important, than we gave them credit for. And this song in particular is more important than I thought it was. That's all I'm trying to say.
Starting point is 00:41:11 Is that like our genre that we are sitting here trying to make comedy on is actually making waves in people's lives. And that's amazing to me because it gives me the thought of, hell yeah, I should have been listening to this shit all along. It's rad. Yeah. Fucking I. I mean, yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:31 You're mad at me right now. We just, you know, yeah. We can go to the... I have had too much whiskey. Well, I mean, I knew it was rad. It is rad. All right. Yeah, do your thing.
Starting point is 00:41:43 Do your podcast, true. Do your podcast that I'm a guest on. Go ahead. Damn, I'll just... That was heartfelt. I lost my place. I meant it, though. I truly meant it.
Starting point is 00:41:58 And no way am I making fun of you. I don't know what to say. You should mean. to make fun of me. Well, that was the last time I saw my mom. The night that I left that rickety shack, the welfare people came and took the baby mama died and I ain't been back.
Starting point is 00:42:17 That's the line. Now, let's pause right here because, and I genuinely love this about the song because the song is about Fancy. Bobby Gentry wrote it from the perspective of Fancy. She sent the baby away. and killed Mama and said I ain't been back. Just in two cup,
Starting point is 00:42:37 one couplet, two lines. That's a lot. I'm not to sound like Corey. I'm just going to preach on it for a minute, but God damn. I'm sorry. No, no. This writing right here, that's really, really, really incredible fucking writing in my life. The whole goddamn song.
Starting point is 00:42:51 Naming her fancy is amazing. It's like when Kanye said, I couldn't afford an elect, I couldn't afford Alexis, so I named my daughter Alexis. Yeah. That's the same shit. I think this is better, but yeah. We get better. It is better, but I'm saying, like, that's a thing.
Starting point is 00:43:07 You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm going to name my daughter fancy. It's her. We're living in a goddamn shack. I'm going to name my daughter fancy. He's also shitting on the woman. You couldn't afford a car, so you named your daughter, Alexis. Okay.
Starting point is 00:43:18 When it all falls down. It's all about this woman thinking that capital, anyway, it don't matter. Conyers was pretty fucking good. Too sure. I feel like we haven't heard from Indian Outlaw in a minute. I mean, that last four lines is fucking, wild. It doesn't, it hits you.
Starting point is 00:43:37 I want to go back to what you guys are talking about in terms of like inspiring people to come out. Like I don't understand. Maybe we can get to the end of it, but is this appeal to alternative lifestyle people because obviously fantasy has such a shitty life and she got forced into it? Is that it? Is that is that, is that? I have a theory.
Starting point is 00:44:03 I think it's like three things. First of all, Riba is a southern female icon. So in the drag queen culture, you know, that type of music, Celine Dion, Whitney Houston,
Starting point is 00:44:15 Dolly Parton, that those are, you know, we're going to be looking to Riba anyway. Here's a song that is very female empowering. So that's right in line with what drag queens often want to do.
Starting point is 00:44:27 It's got a fucking killer hook. Amazing hook. One of the best hooks in country music history. Fancy, you know, I mean, it's a great name. It's right. So that, and then exactly in my opinion, what you said. The story of this song
Starting point is 00:44:41 is, bitch, I made it. Right. Started from the bottom. You look at Lizzo, also becoming a gay icon in the drag community. Like, bitch I made it is like fucking huge in that world. Right, right. Against all odds. Yeah, and I think it's because of what
Starting point is 00:44:57 you said. You're already marginalized. Right, right. But I don't know. No, that makes sense. If I knew Corey was going to do that soliloquely, I might have had a gay person on to talk about it. Well, I'm sorry. I'm sorry that I even said that. What?
Starting point is 00:45:10 Well, I'm just saying, like. Drew is the one who brought up how popular it is at drag shows. And then you took that ball and rum with it. I sure did. Bring it right up my own ass with it. Which is what you do with your balls when you're trying to do. But like, the video does kind of do different things to the song. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:45:27 100%. So, like, in the song, you don't necessarily know that she's coming back to her town. She's a movie star. Like all this shit. That doesn't often happen with whores. You know what I'm saying? Which part?
Starting point is 00:45:44 They come back to her town? Now she, like, the way that her driver is talking to her in the fucking video. Oh, become a movie star. The way that her driver is talking to her in the video is not like you're, you're a prostitute and you're coming back to this town. The way that the driver is talking to her in the video, is that you he's literally talking to her like she's fucking
Starting point is 00:46:04 you're right about that yeah I'm saying he's talking to her like she's uh Sharon stone Julia Roberts like oh you're a famous person so like in the song nothing in the song informs you of going like and I stopped being a prostitute and I ended up being a movie star but if you watch the video
Starting point is 00:46:20 the video definitely makes you think oh she ended up being fucking Julia Roberts but the song does change the shit the song does on its own make you think she made it. Of course. But there's no indication of how. But not made it, but not made it out.
Starting point is 00:46:37 No. She could be. But, okay, first of all. Which again. First of all, I don't know about the video. I don't know the video. I didn't even think. First of all, I know you said it's iconic.
Starting point is 00:46:49 I believe that. I did not remember the video. We watched it before we started this. And I didn't watch it all the time. I didn't even really think about that until you pointed out. But now I'm sitting here thinking like, yeah, I don't know why they did that. I know why. so much different.
Starting point is 00:47:02 I know, and I don't think they should have. But, but she's, she's aristocrat. I could see someone, like she was, one of her dudes was like, a producer. Some really famous guy or something like that.
Starting point is 00:47:16 She was on, she was on red carpets and shit like that with this guy, you know what I mean, and got, and got, became a thing for that reason. I think, I know,
Starting point is 00:47:25 but that's not, that ain't a movie star. I'm not talking about, her becoming like an actor movie star, that don't make no sense. I think the reason. That's what the video would have you to believe. No, he didn't say,
Starting point is 00:47:35 did he say like, I love all your shit. He was, yes, he did. What do he said? He does all of everything you've been in. Yeah. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:47:42 At the beginning. Never mind. That doesn't, that don't make any sense, I know it. Here's why she did. I'm telling you, here's why she did it.
Starting point is 00:47:49 She did it because she needed to make the story a little bit more palatable for CMT and the audiences. If she's just in the video, a madam or whatever, and now she has women under her, they ain't going to let you do that. And then also she wanted to make it about her.
Starting point is 00:48:04 Reba wanted to be a movie star. He also says, I like your songs. But dude, it's a, she's a singer and a fucking movie. It's an example of like the video. So it's like if Reba McIntyre had lived this life as an 18 year old.
Starting point is 00:48:17 Yeah. Like that's what the video is. If you just watched the video, well, but in the video her name is fans. If you just watch a video, it changes the entire fucking song. Because in the video,
Starting point is 00:48:29 I didn't even think about it. I didn't think about it, but I agree with you. In the video, like, she clearly, like, is doing all this prostitution shit, and then she meets some dude and then turns out. She's Hillary Clinton. There you go. She's Hillary Clinton. Or, like, or what the fuck ever. But, like, I'm just saying, like, in the video, it very much changes the song of, like, she ends up being a Hollywood actress that has made it and her face is on billboards.
Starting point is 00:48:58 Because he mentions that shit. I've seen everything you've done. I see your face everywhere. And now she's coming back to her hometown. So she's not just... I don't know how I feel about all that. It changes the fucking song, dude. But to be fair, like I said, I didn't remember the video at all.
Starting point is 00:49:13 You know what I mean? But let's talk about some famous stars who did sex work. Okay. Who do exist. Cardi B. As far as we know, she was just an exotic dancer. Megan the stallion. Megan the stallion.
Starting point is 00:49:26 Megan the stallion. Uh-huh. My bad. I said the. it's the lady gaga was a stripper hold on there was one more i wanted to find of course channing tatum yeah oh yeah he because that was magic mic
Starting point is 00:49:40 was based on his shit right brad pitt did it yeah and by the way i'm not sitting there's not a goddamn thing wrong with it it's just not the video it's just that if you listen to the song you take whatever you want from the song and then you watch the video it changes the fucking song rosam bar was a
Starting point is 00:50:01 prostitute. If you meet motherfucker what? No. No. Roseanne Barr was a truck stops, right?
Starting point is 00:50:09 Prostitution is a business. I think it should be legal. Well, that's different than she did it. Roseanne Barr revealed she used to be a prostitute to earn many before making it in Hollywood.
Starting point is 00:50:19 And she told Vanity Fair she has no shame whatsoever over being a sex. I mean, first off she didn't have any she didn't have any customers, but she was a prostitute. I thought her whole,
Starting point is 00:50:28 I thought her whole thing was like Maya Angelou, which is crazy. You know, shut up. Angello. Was, I don't know, a prostitute
Starting point is 00:50:37 and brothel manager? Where the fuck are you reading this from? Which does she describes candidly in her 1974 memoir gather together in my name? Huh. Huh. Well, shit.
Starting point is 00:50:47 Well. Okay. Back to fancy, I guess. Here's your one chance. Where are you going to say you, too sure? I was just going to say back to the verse that in the,
Starting point is 00:50:55 in terms of what you said earlier, this is the hero's journey. That bird could not be caged. You know what I mean? I think whatever's next. That was my angelia, right? The cage bird. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:51:06 Okay. I'm smart, everybody. Corey knows why the cage bird says. I need the cage bird. Yeah. And it fucked. I was saying, like, the cage bird sings and fuck. All right.
Starting point is 00:51:16 That's, that's, my husband. What? She said it. My angelou. She said it. She said it. What? I was saying, when it comes to her, this fancy being a hero, this.
Starting point is 00:51:31 is the bottom. She's basically described, family died, I left, baby got taken away, her sister got taken away, and I guess on to the next verse. All right. Well, but the wheels of fate started to turn. I mean, that's what's great about the writing too. It's like, yeah, the wheels
Starting point is 00:51:47 were turning. What was I supposed to do? It already had happened. Right, right. But the wheels of fate had started to turn, and for me, there was no way out, and it wasn't very long until I knew exactly what my mom I've been talking about. I knew what I had to do and I made myself the solemn vow that I was going to be a lady someday, though I don't know when or how. But I couldn't see spending the rest of my life with my head hung down in shame. You know, I might have been porn born just four-wide trash, but fancy was of my name.
Starting point is 00:52:16 Hey, I got too excited. That fucking line right there is top five song lyrics of all time for me personally. One day, if I'm going to have a houseboat with that quote, it on the wall when you walk in. I thought about it. I thought about it. I don't even like, I'm not going to lie to you and say that I identify with that shit, but like even as just a regular motherfucker from the South, like that shit, like just as an anthem,
Starting point is 00:52:46 that shit right there when she goes, I may be poor white trash, but fancy is my name. Like that gets me pumped up. I could run through a fucking brick wall with that line, dude. God damn right, bitch. You fucking tell them what's up. I'm going to spend the rest of it. my life and my head hung down in shame. I might have been born just plain white trash.
Starting point is 00:53:03 But fancy was my man. It fucking goes so hard. It goes so hard. You know I'd love to hear talk about that if he's aware of it. Have you ever heard Big Boy talk about how much he loves Kate Bush? No. He loves Kate Bush. He has owls.
Starting point is 00:53:18 I would love to hear him talk about the lyrical aptitude of this song. I guarantee you that Big Boy has heard this song and loves it. Absolutely. And I'm sorry. I'm glad you repeated it because I got. got so excited and josted it up and I've flubbed it a little bit. That's on me. So good.
Starting point is 00:53:34 No, it's not so me. All right. She said, here's you one chance. Fancy, don't let me down. She said, here's you one chance. Fancy, don't let me down. Then we're going to get into that third verse and we're going to get to it. But I guess let's go back.
Starting point is 00:53:43 We focused on the best line in the song, hands down, one of the best lines in all of country music. One of the best lines on music. But, man, there's a lot of power in making myself this solemn bow that I's going to be. I also love that. Eyes going to be. I's going to be a lady someday, though I don't know when or how. I think, Tushar, maybe a little bit. And we don't even just have to talk about, like, gay people or any person who's been through anything can really identify with that song.
Starting point is 00:54:16 I mean, she's talking about, it's all about her mom. And it's basically what her mom maybe couldn't be or couldn't provide her. And what her mom had to do. and what her mom had to do, but she's a reflection of what her mom was maybe wanting to be originally. And so it's just like a, you know, same thing. Dad wants you to be a thing because he never could be the thing. You think her mom wanted to be a prostitute? I think her mom wanted to be someone who's notable and, you know, whatever the beginning of that video was meaning to do.
Starting point is 00:54:51 She doesn't know anything as a young lady what prostitution is, but she knows what being a lady one day? Being a lady is, yeah. Her mom put that in her. And this is the path to being a lady. Right. And her mom didn't. All right. I had some minor difficulties there.
Starting point is 00:55:08 Hopefully they don't become major difficulties. But we were just talking about how they cut off this, the last person he said. And then we got cut off. In New York Town House. They're trying to do it to us. And she ain't done bad. Like charmed if she ain't done. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:25 Charmed. Oh, and I was doing a question about the book, which I don't know if this is on there, but in the book, I failed to be. give Bobby Gentry credit that I didn't know. I didn't hear her. And I also say, in my blurb about the song of my head, that she got her a diplomat, not an aristocrat. And though we said many times from the book that we did no research.
Starting point is 00:55:47 No. We did no reading for that book. No, I'm reading the book. No, you're already writing that book. That's actually so true. Like, during that book, I was like, yeah, here's what I think. Yeah. I did.
Starting point is 00:56:01 I remember I talked to an ATSU professor. About redneck? No, the pills. I got some actual, like, numbers and shit with the pill. But that's the only thing. I did some research for the gun bar, to be fair. What is that? That's just bullshit.
Starting point is 00:56:15 It's like doubles. That don't have anything to do with it. I'm sitting there in a quick time right now. Okay. So let's just keep going. Let's go. God-bain. We're on quick time.
Starting point is 00:56:25 I don't know what the fuck is. This is some healthy hotel bullshit. Wasn't it after the metal man to be in up the street. The morning later, I was 40th Street in a fire and hotel sweet. I'm charged a king of congressman and an occasional aristocrat
Starting point is 00:56:38 when I got me in Jordan Manson and I'm not in New York Townhouse flat and I ain't done bad. You're sure. I ain't done bad. Now, in this world, there's a lot of self-righteous hypocrites that call me bad and criticize Mama for turning me out no matter how little we had.
Starting point is 00:56:53 Now, I'm always wondering right here. Turning out. I've always heard that from rappers. Is that a real old term for, you know, being married a prostitute? Yeah. I thought it was from the 2000. No. No, turn them out.
Starting point is 00:57:05 Mm-hmm. Yeah, that's hose. I knew that. I thought it was a new phrase. I thought it was a hip-hop phrase. I don't ever heard it. I can understand why you think that, and I probably did too, but like, yeah, that's just like, turn them out. You can turn that girl out?
Starting point is 00:57:18 Yeah. But though I ain't had nothing, but though I ain't had to worry about nothing for nine on 15 years, well, I can still hear the desperation in my four years. in my poor mama's voice ringing in my ears, she said. Here's your one chance fancy don't let me down. Oh, here's your one chance fancy.
Starting point is 00:57:39 Don't let me down. Lord forgive me for the way I do. But if you want out, what's up to you? They don't let me down now. The mama's going to move you up town. And I guess you did. And you know,
Starting point is 00:57:56 it might have just been like adding a word to make it fit around. the container or whatever that was called. But I feel like the guess in that last line, it's like this song is about her realizing, damn, I did this, but Mama did this too.
Starting point is 00:58:12 I got me out, and the song is about me giving me out, but Mama did this. She said she was going to do it, and she did it. It's almost like an immigrant story. Damn, yeah. Or someone trying to come out.
Starting point is 00:58:25 Or any major struggle that your parents or someone, who's what you've got you threw you into it's almost just like there's nuance to that entire thing like yeah yeah well i'm just saying like everyone wants to go like oh you're a you're a prostitute you're this you're that you're just someone who like there's so many people nowadays especially like with the advent of only fans and we're living in a different world where people go like oh you want to just show your butt hole because you don't want to work yeah you know but there's There was a time.
Starting point is 00:59:01 Listen, listen to me for a second. We've all that listening to you. Listen to me for a goddamn second. I mean, the fucking computer shut down. I'm going to go tired of guys. All I'm saying is there's a lot of motherfuckers in Brooklyn. By the same, righteous hypocrites are calling bad. There's a lot of motherfuckers in Brooklyn who were like,
Starting point is 00:59:20 motherfucker, can you fall or can you rap? You know what I'm saying? And I'm not saying that's right, but that's what they were saying. Like, do you want to get out? and in Appalachia there was a lot of motherfuckers at this time that was just like, man, look, you'd be bored. I mean,
Starting point is 00:59:36 I'm just... I don't think that was one of them. Yes, it was. Are you kidding me? That's what this fucking song is. The song was about that happened to one person. But I don't think that was ever like a common way to get out. I think it was like a... My way to get out, I agree with you.
Starting point is 00:59:52 It's a way that survives. Yes. There you go. But that's what I'm fucking saying. In Brooklyn, it would be more equal to selling drugs. But my fucking point is, my fucking point is, is that there's some people in this situation where it's not that they were sitting there going like, I don't want to get a regular job. They were going like, I have to do this to get my family through. Was that Cleveland? Cleveland, yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:18 I don't want to get a regular job. I paid it. I ain't. Come on, you don't want me to have to sell my butthole. That's nasty. That's nasty, Peter. It's the stanking hip. No, but I'm just saying.
Starting point is 01:00:39 All I'm saying is like there's nuance to all that bullshit. There's a lot of self-reches. And there's certainly that's going to buy. They're size of these people no matter how little they had. That's exactly what I'm saying. That's what you're saying. That's exactly what I'm saying. Well, it is exactly what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:00:54 It's also exactly what to the song. I know. But motherfuckers don't... Well, I'm trying to tell the goddamn audience that shit. I'm not trying to explain it to you, motherfuckers. I know that you're smart. I understand that shit. Don't have that audience.
Starting point is 01:01:11 Don't that mother's an audience. Well, would y'all not... You all have no ideas about fancy? Motherfucker. I was trying to make a good point. You're doing a guy that, hey, hi. He's had two pines of whiskey, folks. of whiskey folks.
Starting point is 01:01:28 I'm saying I was heard of you. You are brushing. Nothing you said was false, nothing you said was boring. You are murdering. You know what I'm fucking saying? You're as good as the song fancy right now. All I'm saying,
Starting point is 01:01:40 you are just saying. Yeah. And in conclusion, fair. Be self-righteous. Fair. That's fair. That's fair.
Starting point is 01:01:51 We're going to kick out of the law. You're right. You're right. Scraming. Well, well read. Comedy.com W-E-L-L-R-A
Starting point is 01:02:01 Comedy How are you in this fuck out? Oh, my right. Oh, we can. Yeah, that's fine, too. Do you not want people to come to say that sort?
Starting point is 01:02:11 I do. Am I wrong in that too? I was just laughing then you did it. I was just barely I just laughed. Well, we don't need, hold on, we got a rating. You got to do a lot of things.
Starting point is 01:02:21 I didn't remember what the scale is. Is it three-earn-harts? I give it. Buddy, I give it. three Earnhardt's and a fucking Dale Jr. They said. Three Earhart's, a Dell Jr. and the Richard Patty Basset, Bay City, Pover.
Starting point is 01:02:33 There you go. And then, Earnhardt, you go. Yeah. What do you say it? I'll go with what he said. It sounded more. It sounded like more. I really like a song.
Starting point is 01:02:47 I mean, this is the first time I ever heard it, saw the video. It is, when you go line by line, it is a fucking tail that, that you know what's going on you're like wow this is it like people go through fucking shit yeah yeah yeah like you really start to get yeah god forbid somebody opinion on this song he compares to the only fans but not the way you expect not the way that we get god forbid a son of a bitch like felt something like too sorry I want to know you're sex of shit like your fucking you're just an absolute garbage motherfuckers like
Starting point is 01:03:25 I'm just trying to have like a fucking like moment. You're just like, yeah, you're going to be the lured to the fucking song? I'm like, yeah, you mean the reason we do this fucking podcast? Oh, yeah, goddamn. God forbid I sit here and like dissect that shit with my own. Okay, but you spent eight minutes screaming about how sometimes people that whore and sell drugs don't have a lot of options. Yeah, and people need to understand. I was getting somewhere.
Starting point is 01:03:51 I was getting somewhere. And you didn't let me get there, Trey. That's what I'm saying. Like, you just fucking let me get there. You have never once let me get there. Ever once you're like, shut up, Cora. Y'all, you're like, don't let him get there. That's why he has to jack off to his wife.
Starting point is 01:04:11 Don't let him get there. That's a callback. Don't ever record it because if that didn't get picked up, y'all don't know why I said that. Well, that'd be picked up when you have a hot cat. Too sharp. I want to know. If there's any, you know, positive, prostitute stories in your...
Starting point is 01:04:29 Andean world. The Andean world. Yeah, there's a big one. There's a... There's a lady or I guess... Anarcha, lady, is she's like the... She's the king's... ...concugion.
Starting point is 01:04:45 But she turned into something great. Yeah. Bunch arms. Yes. Yeah. Joe. Hey, Joe, looks like he lets you get there at Friday. Well, that's it for me, I think.
Starting point is 01:05:15 We're gonna be in Minneapolis. This? They say up. Washington, D.C. is coming up. Irvine, California. Huntsville, Alabama. Hounsville, Alabama. Go to Wilroyconny.com for tickets.
Starting point is 01:05:31 I will be this, nope, I was in Portland last week. You missed me. Do you for it? Fancy's little baby sister, I'm about to start the best. So yeah, let's get out of here, see y'all. Love you. Bye.

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