wellRED podcast - WellRED Presents: BUBBA SHOT THE PODCAST: Midnight in Montgomery

Episode Date: October 29, 2021

It's almost Halloween. Do you wanna hear a ghost story? Because Alan Jackson has a darn good one for you. So if you're not too scared, meet us in Montgomery, Alabama, at midnight. Bring your drinkin' shoes, Hank is gonna be there.

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Happy Hallows Eve Eve to all you ghosts, goblins, spookies and scaries. Ghost stories in America have been around since as long as America's been around. I mean, been around longer than that. if you want to get technical about it. One of our first most famous cases was the legend that Benjamin Franklin's ghost was knocking around the streets of Philadelphia, I guess trying to get people to fly kites

and go to ghost whorehouses with him. I'm not sure. What I am sure of is that in the South, we have our own particular version of ghosts and ghost stories. Whether it's Appalachian ghosts associated with the mountains and mountain witches or ghosts in the deep south on plantations from the times of slavery or the civil war

wrapped in with our own dark and shameful history. Country music, the most famous art form from the South, arguably. Of course, has its own ghosts, literal and metaphorical. The ghost of Hank William Sr. casts a long and dark shadow over the business. Whether it's his own son talking about how he is treated differently, because of who his father is, whether positively or negatively, or young budding country superstars using the Hank Williams name and the Hank Williams story as an excuse to continue in their own addictive

and self-destructive behavior. The name Hank carries certain connotations. Today, on Bubba Shot the podcast, the day before Halloween, we are discussing a song that is quite literally about the good. ghost of Hank Williams. So meet us in Montgomery, Alabama, at midnight, because

we are discussing Alan Jackson's great dark tale about running into the specter of Hank. This is Bubba shot the podcast. Today we are doing Midnight in Montgomery, a song written by Alan Jackson

Jackson and Don Samson. First gentleman, let's do the facts. It came out on Jackson's second album, Don't Rock the Jute Box. It was released on 420, hey, 1992. It was recorded in 1990, which is interesting that it took him two years to get it out. It is a story song in the truest sense of the word. It is, I don't know, let's get into it. That's enough stats.

Guys, Alan Jackson Day, first one on Bubba Shot the podcast. first of all, I'm excited about that. The man's a 90s country legend. Yeah, I'm going to be the first to say it. He's definitely on the Mount Rushmore of 90s country. Am I wrong? Does anybody want to argue it? No, dude, if you try to act like,

I don't care who you are or what you're into. If you try to act like Alan Jackson, Donald Hood, you were full of fucking shit. You were full of fucking shit, dude. I feel like Allen Jackson's in that category of like unassailable. Yeah. If you're keeping it real. And you know what I mean?

like every head must bow every time must profess type of thing as far as I'm concerned. The thing with Alan Jackson too is that like I know a lot of people will probably argue at me and go well what about five o'clock somewhere and those people can suck my dick. But like he's argue, wait wait, I'm sorry, argue you like saying that that song don't hit so it proves something negative. No, no, no. I'm saying like what I'm about to say is this is that unlike a lot of 90s country stars who like did that thing where they're like, oh, we got to like change with the times.

and then they put out a bunch of stinkers. Alan Jackson never really did that. Like he put out stuff that wasn't necessarily his tippy top, but even the later stuff where he was kind of like, okay, I'm definitely just putting out a couple more so I can pay off this boat. They still hit. You know what I'm saying?

Like, I don't give a shit. Five o'clock somewhere still hits, except for like the very last part of it where they're doing the talky thing back and forth, which everyone does at karaoke. And by the way, if you do that at karaoke, you should be crucified, like upside down. I don't even remember that part, but I do know that Jimmy Buffett calls his bars at his branded resorts, the 5 o'clock

somewhere bar, and that everyone says that phrase, it's on t-shirts, bootleg ones, that them fellas ain't of getting paid on. Like, I don't know what you're talking about because I don't remember it. I believe you, if you say it's corny. But that song also is a banger. Like 5 o'clock somewhere is a banger. Well, you're a... you're a sensible person and not a moron. So, like, of course you think that.

But, like, I'm just saying, like, when you start stacking all of Alan Jackson's, like, classics, you're going to go, yeah, and five o'clock somewhere was, like, one that he did to sell some t-shirts and a restaurant. You know what I mean? I feel like it's, like, kind of iconic, you know, because, like, I, without even thinking about it, and I'm calling back to a past hit of mine here on a recent episode of the Well, Red podcast, I opened it up by being like, it's 9-11 somewhere. and everybody Which is the Middle East.

That's where it's always 9-11. Yeah, right. But I'm saying that's one of those Zy songs. You all are proven to my point, which is great. Right, but I want to go about,

what are you talking about that people do at karaoke nights that should be burst by crucifixion? What are you talking about? At the very, yeah, you'll understand why. At the very end of that song, that Jimmy Buffett and Alan Jackson kind of have like a conversive.

You know what I mean? Let's go. I'm going. Yeah. That shit. Yes, that. Like, oh, I'm gone, baby. It's always 5 o'clock in Margaritaville now that I think about that.

Yeah. People, a million times because I'll hear, that's a very popular karaoke song, especially for people to do that. And people do that at the end. They stay and they do the talking part. And it's the most annoying thing. Hold on. You're talking about just the person on stage who did the song. Also does the talk.

walking part? Yes. The crowd does it back to them or they just do it to? No, they're just on stage and they should have left and they stay and they do the talking part. And it's again, they should be hung up. Do they wait on the crowd? Do they wait on the crowd and the crowd ain't giving it to them? Or are they just like reading both parts like some kind of weird self-tape?

They're reading both parts often and it's very bad. And again, the things you know about unhitting things related to Jimmy Buffett is wild to me because it's Just been a lot of karaoke bars. Well, it's come up on this or well read before. People who hate on Jimmy Buffett. And I don't know who those people are. I know that like some people don't like parrot heads, you know, like old people who are kind of corny.

But like even that, you know, it's like, it's almost like, ah, you know, they're harmless kind of thing. So like, I mean, I believe you, and that does sound corny. But anybody who's trying to give Alan Jackson shit, because at the end of a world famous brandable song, he says he's been on Jimmy Buffett's boat. I'd have said that too. Believe me, if I ever get on a track with Jimmy Buffett,

I'm going to drop that I've been on his boat. If I ever get on his boat, I'm telling everybody. Well, the only point that I was trying to make is that Alan Jackson, not at his peak Allen Jackson, still hits really hard, whereas, like, we've seen what happened to Alabama. Right. I think what happened with Alan Jackson is that the cliche song, that he wrote wasn't a cliche,

but it got so big, and I'm talking about where were you when the world stopped turning. When that song came out, which is a good song. That's a better example, I think,

than five o'clock somewhere of like what detractors would bring up because I mean, South Park made fun of that song. South Park made fun of that song. Yeah, and I get why, but when something becomes the reason for the stereotype,

it's like, well, you've got to give it to them. You know what I mean? Like, you're inventing the cliche here. You shouldn't get blamed for it. For sure. And also, like, he, I don't, now I'm trying to remember back on that song, like, he didn't go in with like, I love the troops and fucking I hate Iraq. Like, it was just a good sweet song about a moment in time.

Like, I think he did it good. Yeah, it was fear and admitted ignorance. I think there was a line in there. I'm not sure I could tell you the difference in Iraq and Iran. Of course, he files it with, but I know Jesus. and I talk to God. Yeah, all right. Never mind.

Well, let's get back to the hits. 1992, fellas. 9-11 has not happened. Unfortunately, Hank Williams has passed. Unfortunately. I'm just going to clip that out. 9-11 hasn't happened, unfortunately. Your pacing could have been a little better on that.

Listen, I'm drunk as Hank Williams' ghost. Let's refocus for a second. We're going to bring the Indian outlaw in in just a second, and we're going to get into the lyrics. To finish your point that you brought up and to just have Trey extrapolate, yes, Alan Jackson is on my Mount Rushmore for 90s country. He would come close to being on my country music, Mount Rushmore, period.

I think I'm too partial to the outlaws for him to make the top four. But to me, the man's a legend. I think he is, him, Brooks and Dunn, George Stray, and Garth Brooks or I would have to like pick among those groups, I think, for my top 90s country person, or group. Oh, man.

He's definitely on the Mount Rushmore for me too, for sure. In terms of like, yeah, I don't know. I'm trying to think of who hits harder now in Jackson. That's pretty good a damn short list. You know how Brookin Dunn? Do you guys are aware that Brooks and Dunn's having a moment? right now. People are remixing them. They're ending up on TikTok videos. I want the reaction videos and stuff. Yeah. Yeah. I want Alan Jackson happen to. I don't know if you saw

this, but it's happening to John Michael Montgomery, too. That's wild. Yeah, but you know what it is. There's a trend on Instagram reels, which is like the TikTok of Instagram, and it's people seeing if they can mouth along to the Grundy County auction. And like they can't do it. Having his moment. Yeah. All right. Well, let's get into it then.

I'm about to read some lyrics and all that. As you guys listen and know, this would be the time if you haven't done it yet to go watch the video so you can hear the song and see the video. Oh, that was one stat I wanted to throw out there. The video was the CMA's video of the year in 1992. It's filmed in black and white under a full moon in an empty cemetery. and it's rad.

So go watch it now. If you haven't already, let's bring in the Indian Outland. Hey, buddy. Hey, fellas. What's up? Can you hear me? Yeah.

We were all waiting on each other to greet you. Sorry. Man, I love it. We're here live with me. Man, I love this song. I just watched the video like four times. Zero bitches. That's what I looked about it.

This is the first one, this is the first song you picked that doesn't celebrate. I mean, maybe the death of his friend was caused by one of the prior videos or something. There's bitches on the outskirts of this story, you think? How are the bitches involved, Tushar and Best of Gates? The road to this story is lined with bitches for sure, but they're not here. Tishar, you should name your album, Biches on the outskirt of Montgomery. Yeah.

But yeah, this is, this is, I like this one a lot for, I didn't know I could like a song like this, uh, in the country, you know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, this is like,

it's, it's, it's, you know, I like, you know, me, I'm,

I'm, I'm death guy, you know, I celebrate it, uh, or it's, so the video was like, the fact that it's only in a cemetery and he pulls up,

up and he walks and that's the whole thing it's um it's carried by not much visually but the lyrics are kind of i don't know i like the song a lot what uh hey you're from alabama what's uh what's the deal with montgomery what's the deal with montgomery i mean i'm in huntsville which is the opposite end of the state next to tennessee but we don't really fucks with montgomery I don't know really anything about Montgomery honestly thinking about it I've been to Birmingham and Huntsville a bunch I've been to Mobile once

I've never been to Montgomery I don't think they like our time especially two shares a lot of my granny's side of the family is from Montgomery and that's a country song opening right there

yeah and of all the members of my granny who are from different places in the south, the ones from Montgomery, first, like absolute first seed racist. Like if you were having a tournament, if you were having a tournament of my family and racist, they're number one seed.

They are Duke in 99, 2000. Like, they're fucking going to the dance. They're going to win it all. You know what I mean? They're going to the dance, and they're taking a white lady with them. You know what I'm saying? Corey, thanks for bringing racism up.

I did. My first thought when watching the video, from my racist lens was oh no bus in Montgomery pulling up to the thing are they offloading old slaves to this site?

Old slaves. Old slaves. Old slaves. Now I can get some new slaves. These old slaves. A bus in Alabama does conjure up images of racism and civil rights. But to most people positive ones and change

and Tushar's like, nope, Dead old slave. Uh-uh. Yeah, I know what's happening. But this one was a private, this is a private bus. It was definitely a tour bus, I thought, was the, you know, that was Alan Jackson's tour bus, you know. Yeah. All right.

Yeah, he says he's got, he finished the show Summers. He's got a show Summers else. He's in Montgomery. And he just gets in his buddy. Went to holler at his buddy who's dead. Let's do it. Let's get in a little. Hell no.

All right. Let's do it. That's funny. Go holler to paint. Don't hit. I wouldn't do that at all. God damn. You just were such a papaw.

I don't go to my papal's grave, dog. Dude, I don't even know when my granny's buried. Yeah, right. One of y'all died. Sorry, that's it. That's it. And you live on through fart jokes I make on podcasts and stuff. I wanted to share a clip, but not at the fucking grave site.

No. I want to bring out, I wanted to bring out this up later, but it fits right now. The fact that y'all have cemeteries is fucking ridiculous. y'all don't do that y'all don't have cemeteries we burn we burn y'all turn into trees and stuff no we literally incinerate the body and we have ashes that are spread somewhere

so there you say y'all do you mean Americans white people or the south because I feel like most of the three oh yeah that's what the rage against the machine album was what one of some of my own that was a protest

that was a protest that was no but we don't do it Oh, the famous monk burning himself in protest. You thought that's what Tuchar people just did? That's just, that's all right. Very brief, very stupid second. Yes, I was like, oh, yeah, I've seen y'all's funerals. Actually, yeah.

It's super lit. When you get to a certain age, you have to set yourself on fire in the middle of town square. Yeah. That's the version of the ice flow that the Inuit put their pitfalls on. You know, which is wild. On that, some people, like, cremation has become more of a thing where we are. Yeah, everybody, my dad, they didn't do no burial shit. And that's how everybody, like, that's how I'm going to go for sure,

I'll be turned into a tree. But, dude, just, I don't know if you know this about white people and Christians specifically. But, like, when I was a kid, it was told to me by grown-up people who had jobs and went to college that if, like, let's say, hypothetically, my uncle got cremated, they would go, oh, it sucks that your uncle's now burning in hell because they cremated him. That was me too for my uncle, Seth, on account of he liked dicks was wife. Right. But, like, oh, it's shame he's going to burn in hell for eternity, your uncle.

They cremated his dick and buried the rest. So my, my, my, Mama Dindin told my dad that he better not burn her because, and I quote, I can't stand the thought of how bad that would feel. Now, Tushar, you don't know. a lot of men my dating stories. She also, like,

would get mad at and argue with the guys from the sonic commercials because they were so annoying. There was a lot of things she just, you know, processed with being very literal

and cremation was one of them, but that generation was very into that. My question for you, because I've never thought of this. Very into what being stupid? Yeah. Love it.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, kind of. Dude, she also talked with Dr. Phil, like he was her friend,

and about him like to do them. Since we're talking about mamawes right now, Mama cat rest her soul, I brought up before and how her catfish hit real hard and everything. Gooder took her, didn't it? I do. Uh, just everything took her dog. She smoked a pack a day, drank a whole pot of coffee easily. It was just like, you know, eating nothing but grease.

So anyway, she was very stereotypical southern mamma in so many ways, but also she was wild as hell. It's funny, Rich. She was such a sweet lady from my perspective as a kid. Thinking back on now, I'm like, man, she was a lunatic, because, Because the last thing I'm going to say here is not lunatic. You just put all this together in your head. She thought that Obama was the literal antichrist.

I believe that to be true. But also, also went to her grave fully believing in the innocence of O.J. Simpson. I swear to God. I'm out of O.J. You've seen him around the ball? I don't know how that happened. That's how you know she really just didn't like Obama's policies. I guess so, man. But the other thing is, the other thing, we're talking about funeral stuff now,

she donated her body to science. How wild is that for a mammal from Savannah, Tennessee, who died 10 years ago, by the way, to donate everybody to science, but she did. Is this Christian science? No. I don't even know what that looked like. That's always been wild. Well, I didn't even know about that relatively recently.

we were on tour somewhere and we drove by something said yeah christian science church and i was like well that don't make any god damn sense like where they just they just bring a scientist in there and have a fist fight or what like i mean the two things don't hit for each other but no not christian science which is stupid just regular science i mean i guess you got put in a goddamn trash can at you two or something like that i don't know that's what they do up there the body farm you know i mean that's the closest science body shit to us. That's probably where she went. Some fucking future detective.

I don't know if your old hunter kid was just feeling your mamma's titties. I feel like I feel like a bunch of comedians who have like been on the road just taking years off our life. Like we can't really knock somebody for donating their body to something they don't really believe in.

For sure. To Char, I want to know, I want to get back to this Barian thing. Is that just a Western thing? I don't know. I personally, I think I should be cremated, but is that a Western practice? Yeah, I associate it with if you are Christian or just in, even if you're not Christian, but you know, you go, you die and your family has asked, how do you want to take care of this? And if you're Christian, it's a whole different supply chain, you know what I'm saying?

I agree with you completely that it's fucking stupid if you really just stop and think about it. I don't want to be buried. like I said, my dad didn't want, we didn't marry my dad. You know, I don't know what will happen with other people in my family or not, but it's like, it's totally pointless, really. I mean, it's, I guess the only case for it is for the people who are still living, which is this whole song slash video, is you can visit. Yeah, but again, that don't do it either.

Like I said, well, what happens is you guys, you guys reference becoming a tree a few times, Like when you're burned, they just hand you the ashes and you do whatever with them. Like I took, when my dad passed, we literally took it on a flight and spread it in a holy river. We? Hey, are you? Can you go to that river? I mean, would that be a thing? Like, go to that river and think about him or whatever?

I mean, that could be a thing if you wanted to. I mean, I don't know. I guess people can remember the dad however they want. But like, my dad felt the same way. It was just like, your remember. is just in your mind. You should be able to do that anywhere. Drew was present for this.

We spread my dad's ass ashes in front of the main stage at Bonaroo and like poured out some fucking PBR over him and whatnot and I recited a little poem that I read and Eccified a little bit or whatnot and then went and saw Jason Isbell and it was a very appropriate

ceremony for who my dad was, but also do what? The poet, wasn't it, Burns? I can't even remember. Oh, boy, man. I do not stand at my grave and cry. He read Nickified a fucking Scottish poem. It was awesome.

Yeah, but it was, um, anyway, but to me, I was like, okay, I did that. That, like, as far as his remains, that's what I did with him, and now that's over. Of course, I still think about my dad all the time, like you said, like, he lives on in my mind and my memories and all this stuff, and I talk about him a bunch and all that shit. But I don't need to go somewhere. I mean, I may go back to Bonnaroo again at some point in my life. No,

just put on Springsteen and fucking eat an edible. God damn. Well, that's what I'm saying. Right. I thought that was your dad for a second. I was like, shit. Yeah. Yeah.

I know. Well, that's how I look at it. So, like, I don't, you know. Dude, again, y'all know how much. This whole conversation by me saying, like, who goes to her buddy's grave? I don't know. Dude, y'all know how much I love my granny.

And again, I literally, I was at her funeral and at the grass side, but I don't, I was so out of it that day. I don't remember where she is and I have no fucking intention of ever. That's insane. Like, why the fuck would I, why would I go there? That's insane. I went to Memo Dindin and Papua Clems Graves for the first time. This, during the pandemic, just mom and dad was like going.

But I agree with y'all, but I want to make a small counterpoint just like for thought. The bird side, my mom's side of the family has a small plot where a lot of them are buried next to each. other and it's near my house where I grew up. There is a cemetery that's within walking distance. And it's like other people's land to walk basically anywhere else. So I walk there with my nephew sometimes or I'll be on the phone and want to get away from my parents because we're talking about business or whatever and I'll just walk that direction. And when you get to that part and then you get there, I don't give a fuck that their bodies are there. I don't think that matters. I think that's dumb, whatever, whatever. But being in a place.

it's fenced off. It's in one corner of the cemetery where there are all these acknowledgments of my ancestors and my people. I think that's really cool. But I think it would be just as cool if we just did that somewhere and it had nothing to do with the bodies. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, hell, I go to the goddamn Civil War battlefield every day and read their graves and shit. Like there's something cool. Yeah, I hear you. But like that's on your family's land. Is that what you were saying? It's right next to it. It's land they actually donated to that church. Yeah, I mean, I'd have to get in a car

and, like, call somebody and, like, find it, like, you know what I mean? Like, uh-uh. Yeah. I just, have you ever, like, I don't know, driving past a cemetery in precious, like, city land just feels so... Yeah, I have six to say, two sharks mad about the land. We put a fucking mustard farm there.

It could be mustard. Yeah. Fucking Indians and land. What is it? I'm telling you. I'm going from away, man. hilarious. I just remember that this is Bubbush got the podcast and not well read. We are off the rails. Yeah.

All right. Just everybody knows, I'm well aware it's the other end ends and also I was being sarcastic. Anyway. I'd like to imagine the person who didn't know that. Actually, when I end up in a cemetery. You can't spell racist with you can't spell sarcastic without racist, I don't think. It's in there, isn't it?

It's definitely in there. Yeah. Yeah. Where you go, baby. Anytime I was visiting my in-laws and they went to. some family members graves so I sort of had to go, right? Anytime I end up in a cemetery, I always do walk around and look at all the names and the epitaphs or what's the, yeah, epitaphs there. Epitaphs, yeah.

And they tell a little story and it is kind of cool, especially the ones that are from over like 100 years ago or even longer and shit like that, you know. That is kind of neat, actually, in my opinion. But I agree with you that the idea of it all is inherently kind of silly and unnecessary. And also, yeah, in like a big city where housing costs of skyrocketed and whatnot and you're dedicating all this land to the corpses of old, you know, Jews and Christians and just other types of white people mostly. Ah, hell, black people get married to. Too short, listen.

It's just things they're doing America. If they could afford it, yeah. Going back to the Indian versus Indian, Indian on Indian crime, didn't they have, you know, I mean, is that a racist trope or did they not have burial mounds? What, Indian on Indian? Native Americans, and didn't they get very upset when we built, you know, a whole fucking country on them? Or is that like a trope from a movie? I mean, you take over a people's land.

You're not going to give a shit about their bodies. You're going to build some shit on their burial grounds. No, I know. My point is they buried people, too. Yeah, but you don't care about their living version, much less who gives a shit where they're dead or... Fellers, I had no question in my mind if the American government or people gave a fuck about Indians.

All you're trying to say is they buried their dead, is all you're saying. I think they did. And I guess you're right. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I know the Vikings put them on a boat and shot up flaming arrow at it, you know. I think that was just like important people, though. I think they were burning a president.

The fucking Viking peasants got thrown in the trash like the rest of us, but... Think about it. to burn, bury or drown them. Like, a dead body is a not a good thing to have a rank. Yeah. All right, well, let's read these lyrics, shall we? Yeah. Now that we've covered how to get rid of the dead.

Midnight in Montgomery, Silver Eagle, Lonely Road. I was on my way to Mobile for a big New Year's Eve show. Stop for just a minute to see a friend outside of town. With my collar up, I found his name. felt the wind died down. And a drunk man in a cowboy hat took me by surprise, wearing shiny boots, a nudie suit, and haunted, haunted eyes. He said, friend, it's good to see you. It's nice to know you care. Then the wind picked up and he was gone. Was he ever really there? Because it's midnight in Montgomery. Just hear that whippoor will. See, the stars light up, the purple sky, feel the

lonesome chill. Because when the wind is right, you'll hear his song and smell whiskey in the air. night in Montgomery. He's always singing there. Great open. Good shit. I got chills reading it. With your choice of select sandwich, nugs, fries, and a drink, Wendy's $5 biggie bag is your go-to. Your nugget wingman. You're hot and crispy fry co-pilot. Just like us. We're like the bag boys. What? Bag boys, bag boys. What you're going to do? What you're going to do when we bring your

food? For a deal you can count on. Bet on Biggie and Cheez-Lis wisely choose windy spag boys back boys u.s price of participation may vary includes choice of double stack jbc or crispy chicken sandwich with four piece nugs junior fry and small soft bank third-party delivery pricing may be higher yeah man we were in the text group and we were going over which uh alan jackson song we were going to do and i i don't know who someone was like well i think maybe gone country's better but this would be a good better podcast and i was like i don't know if it's better and then i watched the video and as soon as the first verse was over i

was like dude this is one the best fucking country songs of all time fuck alan jackson like just period. Like, this song rules. And, well, I don't want to jump ahead and say what I'm about to say. So we'll just, I'll end right there. Yeah, let's do comments on the first verse or the opening for now. I think this song, this song, an homage to the ride. And not to invoke the name of David Allen Coe here, you know.

I was going to get to that. I'm not sure if it's an homage or if it's just one of those like, I can do it. They're both about Hank Williams and so what are you going to do type of thing. Yeah, there's a much. chestnut song that people think might be about him too. Let me find what it's called. That's what I was going to say while you're looking that up is that like it's such a thing now to where like almost everyone invokes the name of Hank and it kind of pisses

me off to a degree because it's like people are like, oh, if you want to just give your song Korea, I'd just mention Hank, you know, or Johnny Cash or Jack Daniels. But this is one where it's like this one and the ride are definitely okay. But because the song, it's not just a throwaway. mention, like, the whole song's about it, and it just rips. Yeah, so, too, Char, there's a song by Legendary Racist, David Allen Coe. So, yeah, you might want to check out some of his work, but... Dude, you would love...

But anyway, he's one of the racists as racist that ever did it, son. He's out there, I'm telling you. What was the song? You guys, some city we did. We literally can't say it out loud what the song is. I know which one you're talking about. I'm pretty sure we had to send it to you in Moore's Code. Not only, go ahead.

Just real quick, just listen to these, just the lyrics and I guess the video and not knowing him that well. I would presume that he wrote or co-wrote this, right? Like he did. Right. So I literally didn't look that up, but you can tell, by the way, he was singing it and what, and just the executes, like the lyrics itself, You can tell that he almost, every other country song we've listened to, when you tell me there's another writer and he had nothing to do with it or is the redo of an old song, you can kind of tell, at least I can, like by the singing and by the performance of it.

But this, I was like, this dude wrote this shit. You can tell. So, okay. On that, too sharp, since you presumably don't know it, I want your perspective on whether you think this is a direct homage to this other song. or not. Songs from 1983. David Allen Co.

writing is called The Ride. It starts out, well, I was thumbing from Montgomery. I had my guitar on my back when a stranger stopped beside me in an antique Cadillac. He was dressed like 1950, half drunk and hollow-eyed.

He said, it's a long walk to Nashville. Would you like a ride, son? Okay, I'm not going to read all of the lyrics, but a couple verses later, then he cried just south of Nashville and he turned that car around he said this is where you get off boy

because I'm going back to Alabama as I stepped out of that Cadillac I said Mr. Many Thanks he said you don't have to call me Mr. Mr. The whole world fucking song slaps by the way so fucking hard dude

But anyway too sharp I want to get fucking drunk Yeah. Nobody makes me want to get drunk quite like David Allen Coe, you know. Shoot. Yeah, but anyway, too sharp. So you can see the similarities. What do you think about that?

Yeah. That song happened obviously way after this song. No, the song I just read was way before this song. Oh, before. I don't want to bring up a like, oh, they're ripping them off type of thing. That's why I said homage, because, like, both songs do hip for me. But, like, anytime I hear this song or listen to this song, I cannot help but think of the ride also.

And I just thought, well, yeah, they, I mean, they say shit like, you know, the art just kind of goes into cycles and repeats itself, but literally by ideas, by kind of stealing. Even if you don't mean to steal, like, it's just in your head and this is a story that you grew up with or something. And it just comes out. I don't know if it's like that, but I can see, yeah, I can see the point. All right. Yeah. Let's do another one real quick, just in the vein of this becoming, like a. tiny tradition. And as Corey said, a lot of people will reference Johnny Cash, Hank,

but here's the song. I'm just going to read the chorus and one verse. The chorus first. I'm skipping the first verse. I swear he looked like old Hank. I wouldn't bet a wood nickel if he ain't. I got goosebumps and dizzy and I kind of felt faint. I think I've been talking to Hank. He said, I played that old guitar in a drifting country band, played coast to coast and a few foreign lands. Some crowds were big and some crowds were small. Somehow I hope I let them know I loved them all. I said, Your Mighty Skinny, he said, would you believe? It only took one woman to do this to me. But you got to bet your hat, son, and get out of the way when they start hating love and loving the hate.

And I swear he looked like Hank, et cetera, et cetera. Not as good of a song, not as legendary as the other two. It's called Talkin' The Hank by Mark Chestnut. He's singing as a duet with George Jones. It became a thing, for sure. And I don't know, you know, country music is an industry. You know, there's the art side of things you mentioned too sharp where it gets in your head and you don't even remember it's in there or whatever.

And then there's money. Then there's like, well, you know, you don't own the idea of singing to Hank. You know, you just own your song. Dude, a matter of fact, like, so much of the industry is propped up by that. And it's always been just so wild to me. Like, you know, especially because how long it took Hank to get put in the grand Grand Ole Opry and the Hall of Fame and all that stuff, even though it's like clear that he's one of the tent poles of the industry.

And it's also so bizarre. like all these grown men just constantly and still to this day, just singing about a 29-year-old. You know what I mean? Like, it's weird when you think about it like that. He does seem older, though. Every time I see him, I think he's 45. For sure, because them dudes back then, like, you would, like,

look at all the dudes that fucking Storm D-Day. There's a reason they have to get 50-year-old actors to play the 18-year-olds that did that year. That's what they look like in their picture. And also, Hank Williams died at 29. Let's talk about that for just a second. Yeah. You know, I mean, of like alcoholism, potentially or maybe a heart attack.

It was alcoholism in a combination of a, he had way too much B12 in his system. I know that, which possibly triggered a already something to do with his heart that he had. I'm pretty sure. I didn't know you could have too much B12. I need to make a note of that. How do they get too much B12? He was shooting it up. That's like a trick in the stuff of the tray.

People who shoot it up for energy. Yeah. All right, we've already gotten to some history a little bit, and obviously this song's about Hank. I want to go to this first verse and first chorus and just point out some lyrics that some people may know, some people may not, just in terms of honoring the history.

So in the song, it's midnight in Montgomery, and he's on his way to a show, he being Alan Jackson. It's a New Year's Eve show. Hank Williams was on his way to a New Year's Eve show when he died. Also, there's some other references the second line of the chorus,

just hear that Whipp or Will, is a reference to one of the, probably the most famous Hank Williams song, I'm Salon, so I could cry. Hank Williams, I guess, shadow over country music, and this kind of gets into your point tray about the song from David Allen Coe. We're doing a 90s country podcast,

and not only is the song about Hank, coming up soon, we're going to have lyrics. Hank wrote that he's worked, into this song. I just think it's really cool that he said it on the anniversary of Hank's death and that he's referencing Whippoorwill right out the gate. I really

like the fact that he said it on the anniversary of his death. Yeah, no. Does it. All right, let's get into the second verse. Well, I climb back on that eagle, took one last look around. Red tail lights, shadow moves, across the ground.

And off somewhere, a midnight train rain is slowly passing by, and I can hear that whistle moaning, I'm so lonesome, I could cry. Because it's midnight in Montgomery, just hear that whippoor wheel. See, the stars light up, the purple sky, feel that lonesome chill. Because when the wind is right, you'll hear his song and smell whiskey in the air. It's midnight in Montgomery. He's always singing there. He's always singing there. Well, Hank's always singing there. I don't know if this is, if you guys have already kind of mention this in some way, but is he talking about his own death?

Is that a thing? Alex's talking. Yeah. Visualizing his own? Yeah, or some. There's some version of this where he's like visiting his own death. I never read that into it, but

maybe. Well, I do a lot of gummies, so. Yeah. It's also a thing in art. He died at the hands of a whole. horror, two shards? Let's get to do that. The horrors come in to your analysis, too, Shaw,

because I think we're all waiting on it. Oh, man. So here's where we got specific Hank lyrics. Obviously, I'm so lonesome, I could cry. That's the title. But a midnight train slowly passes by, and I can hear that whistleblowing, or also Hank lyrics.

I don't know. I just, I love that ode to him. It's like, I don't even know what to compare it to. It's just, it's not just a song about Hank. Hank's in the song, kind of like he's in the video. Also, I want to say about this video, I love Alan Jackson so much, just hands in jacket.

Alan Jackson in this video looks like every third bass coach I ever had. Like he's just kind of, he's like kind of like, all right, bat, back, bat, back, bat back, all right, you got it. Like, he just, he looks so quintessential 90s, man. And he's talking to a drunk ghost. Yeah. God damn. I think him and Randy Johnson ever got drunk together.

I was going to say he kind of reminded me of Randy Johnson. It was the curlet. It's, yeah. Him and Randy Johnson have a similar aesthetic going on for sure. Both are sitting at the same time, dude. Yeah. Yeah. A tall drink of tobacco spent, both of them.

Yeah. The other thing I like, that's good. move ahead. Just about the video, it's black and white, right? Yeah, yeah. Yes, Tushar. How fucking high are you?

Is that just how pale Alan Jackson is? God damn. No, I just, I mean, there's not too many videos in black and white. It's a thing. Especially at that time, I would imagine. And country music. Yeah, this video did not cost a lot to make,

which I know with everybody. It's also, like, I imagine they got together with the director, whatever else they're like, hey, we want to make this like one of them artsy queer jobs. What do they always do? It's like, I got it. Yeah. Black and white, buddy. Black and white power.

You know they ate that black and white shit up. Hell yeah. So I might tell the bitches to stay in the trailer. Tell someone tell the black and white bitches to stay in the trailer. Both the black and the white bitches, no need for them. On this here set. I think I've done my job here. I think you have.

I want to ask this. We've referenced drunken ghost a few times, but I do think it's interesting that this old song is about the ghost of Hank Williams, because Hank's been dead a long time. It's the anniversary of his death, et cetera, et cetera. And he could smell whiskey. That's a little sad. That's like really, that's a cool image, but it's also a little sad

that this guy's memory, his specter, is also a alcohol. I think ain't that one of the. rules of ghost. If you die as a drunk, you've got to be a drunk ghost. You're a ghost. You know, you're not a ghost stink. Everybody knows how ghosts be staking. Well, your ghost's going to stink like fucking liquor

if you's old booze and corpse. You know, it's the ghost rules. I don't make a love. Alcohol was what killed him. Such a hammered ghost. Like, the ghost of Hank Williams ain't making a lick of goddamn sense, son. I love that.

I love the idea. of the afterlife and like things carrying over my um my my my father once after my first license i i told them i'm like i signed up to be an organ donor because i was like yeah why not who gives a shit wait do you all get more than one license we get what you said your first license is there like non like first state license you know you have to get a new license of trying move and i Oh, I see what you mean. My bad. Yeah.

And, like, he got mad at me. He looked at my license and he saw it as an organ. He got mad because in my next life, I won't have that organ. But they burned the body. Anyways, it's just ridiculous. Yeah, you won't be breathing either. Is that bothering? Yeah, he'll just be born dead if they took your heart.

You know, a ghost are always fucking opening and closing cabinet doors and turning knobs and shit like that? You're trying to get whiskey. They're drunk. Like, all these ghosts are fucking drunk. They're looking for the bathroom the whole time. Yeah, right. They don't know what they're doing. They didn't knock that book off the shelf.

They fail. That's what I'm saying. You're stumbling into shit. They're, you know, trying to figure it out. Yeah. They're also stupid and a ghost. Yeah, don't hit. I know.

Yeah. Ghost don't hit. No, ghost. In conclusion. Matt, well, let me ask you this. since Ghost don't hit. In the song, in the world of that song,

in the universe of that song, consider this a movie. It's not clear in the video. Did he see Hank Williams' ghosts? Did he imagine it all? Was it just a drunk guy? Well, ghosts aren't real. I'm saying in the universe of the song.

Like, like, you know, like Thanos ain't real either, but I think that you're able to imagine the universe. I believe that he saw him, yeah, because he smelled whiskey, for God's sakes.

I think in the song, he met, Hank Williams spirit or whatever. Yeah. Yes. I don't think he's imagining. And Hank Williams is just drunk as fuck, talking wild shit.

I'm talking about how big of a piece of shit his kids are. And just, yeah, I think he definitely mad at him. Because, I mean, again, he smelled whiskey, man. How else do you explain smelling whiskey in Montgomery, Alabama, unless there's a ghost? I mean, you're at a fucking graveside, and it's a sad place.

Yeah. And that is fucking sad, man. like you were saying earlier about like it's so legend like oh yeah Hank always drinking whiskey and blue it's like yeah man that's what killed him at 29 years old yeah and on that note slight a counterpoint um i think my man is exhausted being on the road i think he's emotional at one of his heroes graves and i think he imagined it because the actual interaction is super brief the song and the setup and the scene is long but someone takes him by surprise he sees him.

Friend, it's good to see you. It's nice to know you care. The wind picked up and he was gone. Was he ever really there? I'm voting no. Too sure? He dreams. Mostly to make it interesting.

He's dreaming? He's drunk on the thing. He's imagining stopping by. Yeah, they didn't even stop. He's on his way to a show. What are they doing in a graveside? Yeah, I don't know. I feel like, you know, most people think they've seen a ghost

afterwards. He's like, was the ghost ever really there? and of course the rest of us are like, no, you fucking shit, ghost ain't real and that don't hit. But if you're inclined to believe that, I think you add this ethereal element to the experience.

You know, it's like, you know. Trey, you're trying to cancel ghosts to Larry's. Yeah, you're all drunk, watching us masturbate and take a shit. Fucking turning our knobs. Don't hit. If I'm not mistaken, and Hank died in Bristol, Tennessee.

He was on his way to a show, but he, or well, he went to a diner in Bristol, Tennessee to eat, and then didn't make it to the show. So there's a little bit of trivia for you folks. He's from Montgomery, though, right?

Yeah. Yeah. And he's been, and he would be buried there, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he's from that,

what did you call him, top seed, racist community. Yeah, absolute. Number one seed, Montgomery. And now,

listen, if you're out there and you live in Montgomery, I'm not holding you, you accountable for how my family was because, you know, I know that everybody's not like that, but she, and again, man, let me tell you something. When my grandmother is commenting on how racist one side of her family is, my grandmother who, like, I mean, I've heard her say some wild shit about the Braves roster. Let's just say that.

You know what I'm saying? We'll just say that. if she's saying they're racist it's pretty rough stuff yeah on that note it is wild that people can't believe that people in the south didn't see it that the Braves themselves the logo

was racist yeah it's like yeah if you heard what our grannies were saying about the Braves we would never have thought about the logo yeah dude for sure and also like I mean when you put the Braves logo up against all the other ones by compared like all the other racist logos by comparison it's like well this one

looks fine. You know what I'm saying? This one at least it hits. Well, before this becomes an Atlanta Braves Apologist podcast, what was that line we said with? My granny's side, one side of my granny's families from down in Montgomery. I'm telling you, dude, you got a hit on your hand. They didn't put up with bullshit. They didn't like Dad Gummery.

They could not stand Dad Gummery and chicanery. There's, yeah. That's great. Dad Gummery. Yeah, that's all I had that rhyme. That's what Boone Howard majored in. All right. I guess it sounds like it feels like we're wrapping up, folks.

Any last thoughts before we were right? Yeah, so one thing, I pulled up Allen Jackson's Wikipedia earlier and just been sort of, you know, scrolling over it. Oh, yeah. I thought this was a fun fact and pretty wild and out of left field. So, you know, Alan Jackson. Jackson was from Noon and Georgia down here. Him and his wife moved to Nashville when he was 27 for him to pursue country music full-time. And I see.

God damn, he was married before he started hitting? Yeah, man. At don't hit. Hang on, no, no, no hit. From experience, I mean. Yeah, I was also married before I started hitting. Notting. No, he was.

278, 28, 85. So two years later. two years after moving to Nashville to make it full time in 1987, Alan Jackson cut an album title, New Traditional at Doc's Place in Hendersonville, Tennessee. But it is extremely rare and was only released in Japan. What? They love them.

I'm telling you, I've been saying it. They love a man in a cowboy hat. Evidently, that's just a wild thing. I saw a thing this morning they've gotten in the Cholo culture. They dress like them and listen to their music in Japan. They get the tattoos on their faces. They wear their hair the same way. They see walk.

Japan, wow. Alan Jackson, he had also on his Wikipedia, just the number of hits this man had. My God. Like, for example, fucking Mercury Blues. It's such an obscure, dated reference of a song because it's singing about Mercury, which haven't even existed as cars for 20 years now.

They haven't even been around. but that song fucking hits. That might be a cover. Well, either way, I'm just saying, like, that song, I feel like nobody thinks about Mercury Blues. I literally, dude, honestly. When you do think about it, you're like, oh, that song slaps. That's one of the first songs I think of when I hear Alan Jackson

because my granny was such a huge Alan Jackson fan and also drove a Mercury. So I'm a little different, but I do agree with you. Like, you could probably ask someone, hey, name your top 20 Alan Jackson songs. and they would name 20 really good ones and not and mercury blues wouldn't even be in there part of that is drew is 100% right and it isn't surprising when you think about the song that song is from 1948 that's awesome he did summertime blues too and that's a cover of like a 50 song yeah that song rules too because it's a very much a awesome man's song and that song is actually uh i didn't know it was a cover by the way until i was revisiting caddy shack uh as an older man and i heard that that song is awesome that song is actually uh i didn't know it was a cover by the way until i was revisiting caddy shack uh as an older man and i heard that song and I was like holy shit but yeah he does he does have a bunch of great you all got a favorite alan jackson's home honestly i think it might be summertime blues but i guess i guess if it's a cover i should pick a different one i think mine might be living on love i really like that song that song is awesome i think and on that note i write i like it's okay to be little bitty i love little bitty oh dude

when i was in a dude okay listen everybody out there first off i acknowledge now that this was rude of us but I was in middle school and this girl I ain't gonna say her name but we had she had, we was in gym class and toilet paper came out of her bra and we found out that she had stuffed her bra

you know, it was like we were like in six, six seventh grade and our net the next class we had was a music class and all we did in music class was do karaoke because the teacher was a piece of shit and me and my buddy went up there impromptu. I mean we wrote it a little bit before, but we're saying, it's all right to have little titties, like in front of the whole

fucking claim. As soon, it is so goddamn funny that Drew was like, you know what I saw I liked was little bitty and Corey's like, oh, that reminds me of these titty's this time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't worry about tities. And me hitting. That was one of the first, like, I had said that I wanted to be a comedian when I was like five years old, but that was one of the first like public performance of a joke that

me and my buddy row and buddy you talk about the fucking i mean my buddies were arsonio and in the back they were like oh shit she got little titties Alan jackson and tiny titties created the show yep it didn't hurt i'm gonna change my answer it's don't rock the jukebox because the line great song you got a heart broke hillbilly buddy what a line i mean it's hard for me to beat this song that we just did i love midnight in montgomery it's it's a You can't go wrong with any of them, but, yeah, he's great, too. Dude, also, man.

Chasing that neon rainbow? Oh, that's it. That's my favorite one. That's my favorite one. But also, dude, to get a little sentimental here, remember when tears me out of frame, man. Yeah. When he says, we broke each other's heart.

And now looking back, it's just a stepping stone to where we are and where we've been. I'd do it all again. God, dude, I'm telling you, the man is nothing but bangers. Undeniable. We fell apart. We even broke each other's hearts. That one just means, but they've been through it.

Dude, I listen to that song, and I can, like, picture me and Amber's divorce and feeling bad about it in retrospect. Like, I'm pretty sad about 20 years from now. You're looking back on the future,

feeling guilty. Yeah, I know. It's like... Another country song banger. Yeah. Yeah. Let's rate this.

What are you say? Wait, wait, hold on. Before we rate, real quick. Yeah, and I got a quick thing, too. Go ahead.

I want to quickly, I like doing this just because it seems, there always seems to be like a clear song with these countries, songs that with a rap kind of equivalent. And the one that comes to my head is Master P's Miss My Homies, and the whole song about, I miss my homies. I miss my homies. It's so, anyway. That is my great.

I just wanted to give Don, Samson, the co-writer, his flowers. This song was co-written by Don Samson. He also wrote a Bonnie Tyler song called Mom. He wrote Waiting on a Woman, which is one of the better Brad Paisley songs. I just wanted to mention him and not gloss over him. He's not as interesting, unfortunately, as far as for a podcast as Dennis Lindy, for example. But obviously a great songwriter.

I just wanted to mention that. I don't know. I guess I'm worried he's listening. We heard his feelings, guys. All right, let's rate it, too sharp. after that Master P reference, you've earned the right to go first. I'm going to go three, a full three.

Three Earnhardt's. No bitches, but they're all part of the same. I'm going to make t-shirts, three Earnhardt's, no bitches. Yeah. That's a great party. Yeah, I'm going, I'm definitely going three out of three Bubba's or Earnhardt,

what will you? I mean, it's, I don't know. How could you not? It's a fucking perfect song. I'm three out of three myself. I also really like the really long verses and short chorus, which is not, we haven't gone through that yet on a song. It feels like it stood out for its time and was a super duper hit.

I guess just to be a little bit different, I'll say 2.75 out of three, just because I think we talk about quintessential country songs, some of the other songs we will cover. If I'm going to give them threes, try to keep the scale meaningful. And you'll know them when we get to them. Would you also, would you also attribute some of that rating?

Like fancy, right? Surely I gave fancy a three out of three. And if I didn't, I'd rather actively change my rating. You did. For example, I loved this song. That was threes across the board. That's what I was, well, so like, that's a good example. I love this song.

This song is not on the level of fancy for me. So if fancy is three, I got to put this at least a little bit below it. It definitely is on that level for me. I fucking love this song. I agree with what you're saying, Trey. I guess I just consider it fancy, I guess, like off the charts, or it's just like one of those things where, like, you know, you can only do so much.

But I hear what you're saying. I'm wondering if you would be more apt to give it a three if it wasn't for the ride. Because I will admit that, like, it does feel like, it's obviously not derivative, but it's like, yeah, but you didn't invent this cool idea. Yeah, maybe. I don't know. I just farted the hits.

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