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Episode Date: September 13, 2021In 1988 Jerry Jeff Walker walked into the Million Dollar Cowboy Bar in Jackson, Wyoming and heard the house band play a song so riveting, so catchy, and about a subject so intriguing that he had to re...cord it ASAP. Five years later Confederate Railroad felt equally compelled to lay down the hit and authoritative treatise on the subject of: Trashy Women. Trashy Women is a classic/ quintessential 90s country hit. Campy, fun, and as true as the Gospels. Dive on in with us on this week's Bubba Shot the Podcast.
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The year was 1992.
Cho was fat and happy sitting on his granny's knees watching the Braves.
Trey was sucking down enough mountain dew to be the spokesperson for diabetes and I was a perfect.
Little Angel. It was also the
same year that Confederate Railroad
put out their self-titled second
album, Confederate Railroad.
On that album, they had six hits,
the first of which is my favorite song by
them, the Queen of Memphis. However,
nearly a full year later, a B-side off that
album came out as a single
that had already been recorded by Jerry
Jeff Walker, was written by a man from
California named Chris Wall, but
would go on to be what I think is
the defining song of the band
Confederate Railroad and one of my favorite country music videos of all time. Today on Bubba Shot
the podcast, we are discussing trashy women, a song and a topic near and dear to my red
ass heart. Boys, what's going on? How we doing? You know, I didn't know until you mentioned it that
this was a Jerry Jeff song because I think it's very clear that this is the defining song of Confederate Railroad
because to me, it's like, this is them. Danny Shirley wrote it. There's,
There's no other band that could have ever done.
And by the way, huge Jerry Jeff Walker fan.
Can't wait to check that out.
But like, yeah, dude, this is the shit right here.
Yeah.
Well, it's crazy.
I looked into the backstory.
The legend has it that in the million dollar cowboy bar outside of Jackson Hole, Wyoming,
Jerry Jeff Walker was posted up on a small, what they call it when they're there for
like when the musicians there for a one.
Residency?
A small residency, like a two-week residency there.
And the opening bands were just a rotation of locals.
And the bartender, Chris Wall, went up and sang with his band and played that song.
And Jerry Jeff Walker was like, you're coming to my room as soon as it sets over tonight.
And you're teaching me that fucking song.
And also you're moving to Austin.
And he did.
Nice.
Jerry Jeff Walker ahead of his time.
Oh, way ahead of his time, dude.
It did okay for Jerry Jeff, but it didn't do that great on the chart.
I mean, I was going to say clearly because I'm a, dude, I'm a Jerry Jeff fan.
Like, I'm not going to sit here and say that I'm a super fan, but like I'm a Jerry Jeff fan.
I'm familiar with a lot of his work, and, like, I didn't know that.
So it clearly didn't do that well for him.
Me, me neither.
I never knew it either.
And I'm just off top.
I'm a massive fan of this song because I very strongly relate to it personally.
I, too, like my women, just a little on the trashy side.
I'm a trash man myself, so I feel like I'm allowed to say that.
My wife's a huge piece of trash.
Yeah.
Yeah, Katie is, like, I don't know.
She's trashy.
She knows she's a little trashy.
I mean, you know, we openly talk.
She knows who she is and where she is.
where she's from. She's from Wayne County, God damn it.
But I don't even think I would qualify what's going on in my life.
Yeah, well, we talked about, you know, like always, of course, you know, I'm a long,
I'm a long married man now, but I'm saying back in, back in the day, a woman walked up
and sort of smelled a little bit like cigarettes, you know, or something like that.
It smelled like my buddy's garage or something. Just anything like that.
I'd always, you know, got me excited, had me feeling confused, you know.
Do you remember when they used to wear, like, neon bras?
Oh, yeah.
And they would, like, want you to see, like, one of the straps.
And, like, they would constantly be like, oh, I don't, I'm sorry.
It's like, yeah, yeah.
Oh, you didn't want me to see it.
That's why you made it neon bar sign pink.
I know what you're doing, Chelsea.
Got them made their, cut their own denim shorts off.
And one leg was a little bit shorter than the other one.
You could see one butt cheek, which for some reason,
the only time that one butt cheek hits harder than two butt cheeks is when you can only see the one through jean shorts because you know that's a mistake butt cheek you know what i'm saying the accidental butt cheek the accidental butt cheek yeah when i was younger when i was like a boob of butts yeah yeah of course when i was uh like teenage years fucking jamie presley who you know is angelic i mean she's gorgeous objectively gorgeous but she was literally like the very top of my list because she had a pinch it for playing these kind of trash trashy whimmer
you know, Joe Dirt and shit like that.
She was like sort of Hollywood's go-to
hot white trash actress.
And yeah, she was
Numero Uno for your boy for a very long time.
Dude, that scene...
We need one of them. We ain't have one of them in a lot.
Yeah, I agree.
No, we haven't.
That scene in Joe Dirt when she's just like
chewing her gum and like twisting around.
Like, that's the only thing that does it for me
that nobody's neck it in.
Right.
I could just, you know...
Well, you're just like, well,
Right, that tip.
I could just go with that.
You know what I mean?
I could just go with that.
Isn't that the same scene where it cuts to her son at some point during that
montage?
And he goes,
you see my girlfriend,
you cheat yourself.
Yes.
And then it cuts back to her and she doesn't have the gum anymore.
But she's just like licking a corn dog or something like that.
Like that movie rules.
Can we pretend it's a 90s country song and talk about it one day?
We can because I want to tell Tushar,
my theory that it is just slumdog millionaire.
It's the same fucking,
plot and it's even got Kid Rock in it.
And Bollywood Kid Rock is in Slumdog Millionaire.
He's going to tell me I'm wrong.
I would recommend everybody go watch the Trashy Women Confederate Railroad music video right now.
Do it right now.
And look, and look, guys, before you do, yes, there's a lot of stars and bars, all right?
You're going to have that.
That guy who comes out as the host of the talent show,
in the music video.
His stage name is Stonewall Jackson.
Yeah, as Cora said, you know, you'll have that.
You'll have that.
They're still around and they're still trying to fly it.
They got dropped in 2019 from a county fair
because they would not not put up the rebel flag.
So I want everyone to understand.
I feel like if you're Confederate Railroad, like you're kind of married to it at this point.
If you've been called, if you've had Confederate in your night,
name for 30 goddamn years or whatever.
Like, well, you guys.
It's going to end your heritage. Hey, how about
this? My bug man is best friends
with their goddamn late singer.
I heard all about them. I know.
I know you have some personal stories about them and I
definitely want to hear them, but I think we should just go ahead.
Yeah, for sure. Let's get the Indian outlaw
out here. All right, let's bring in Indian outlaw.
Let's start bringing down the
lyrics. It's funny we're going to bring
in the Indian outlaw, which is
a reference to a very racist song.
And I'm about to say, guys,
this song rules, but I don't endorse the views
or the other antics of Confederate Railroad the band.
Neither does anyone else have well read.
Yeah.
Well, yeah.
Hey, look, they didn't write this.
Yeah, there you go.
There's too, Shahr.
What's up, baby?
I endorse all the racist undertone.
The Confederate Railroad.
I know you need someone to do that.
It has to be you.
Just if it must.
Yeah.
How are you, buddy?
You're getting better at the bit of making us look racist.
That one was subtle.
He's always been pretty good at it, in my opinion.
It's just a natural.
Also, listen, it ain't that difficult, I feel like, in a general sense.
We're out at a bar or something, you know what I mean?
Especially people don't know us.
It's pretty simple to make other people think we're being racist.
That's what I'm saying.
That route, he'll say something like, white power, and then look at us like,
I was about to say, like, you're right, Trey.
It is easy, but that doesn't mean that Tushar isn't still.
like put the ball on the
tee and swinging to the fence.
It would be super simple, but like
he literally, for those of you that don't know
on this podcast, Tushar, we'll
just, we'll just be at a bar and he will
just, while we're sitting there, he'll just scream
white power and then duck.
That's not true.
He doesn't, yes, it is.
He just looks at us.
He doesn't duck, he goes.
I can't believe y'all.
Me?
No.
And that
I say what? Zinfandale
or something.
It's a little more witty than that.
Well, yeah, that move you just pulled was way more,
you know, it required a lot more skill than just yelling.
God damn, man, Indians are even better at racism than us, y'all.
Yeah, of course.
We're the best.
What's up, buddy?
Well, speaking of the best,
do you have a pension, first of all, for trashy women?
Is that something you generally are into?
Drew, you know the answer to this.
I don't.
I love myself at Trashy Woman.
Yeah.
I do know.
I just wanted to hear you talk about.
You like them all.
I'm a fan. I'm up against a system that is the opposite of trashy, you know, where the arranged system is trying to find someone who is, like, suitable in the same cast.
Well, that's how we want to marry, not fun.
fuck. Right, right, right. So this
is about who you want to. Yeah,
exactly. This is a
song about horse. Yes, I mean.
Fundamentally, it's a
class song about
horse. Yeah. You mean prostitutes? Or you're saying
there's a euphemism for easy women.
The euphemism for easy women. Yeah, yeah.
Well, I don't know if, I don't,
I didn't take trashy women to mean that
necessarily in the context of this song.
I don't either. I think to me
it's like what that, it's like,
like, I mean, you know, a little on the trashy side.
Right.
Of course, a lot of the lyrics, the way they describe these women, make them sound a whole lot on the trashy side.
Yeah.
But the idea, like, you know, no, good girl, my ideal woman, good girl who's, you know, just got a little bit of a trash factor going on.
Yeah.
Which is how I've always felt, you know, and who I married.
Yeah, I mean, this is going to be.
That way, she would agree with me, I think.
Yeah, me too.
This is going to be a stretch, but I think it's a very feministic song.
I think it's a pirate woman.
to fucking dress trashy if they want to.
Oh, yeah, I do too.
I'm sorry for even saying what I said earlier
because, hell, I married a complete
drunken ball of trash too,
and I wouldn't have her any other way.
But I do kind of feel that way about this song
and about songs like this.
A lot of people go the complete opposite way,
and they're like, oh, you know,
like feminism means that every woman is a lawyer
and a doctor and blah, blah, blah.
It's like, you know, feminism is about doing whatever the fuck you want,
and I don't know if you know this,
but no one on earth does more exactly what the fuck they want
than the southern trashy woman.
You know what I'm saying?
And they might not in their heart believe like,
oh,
I'm not a feminist.
I don't get down with any of that shit.
But like this,
I feel like this is a very empowering song.
I'm glad that you brought that very true fact up, Drew.
All right.
Well, let's get into the lyrics.
Thank you, buddy.
Let's get into these lyrics because on the surface,
this is not much of a story song.
But one of the reasons I chose it is it absolutely is.
It's just that.
that it's all contained, in my opinion, for the most part, in the middle verse.
But let's start with the beginning.
And it goes back to this guy's childhood.
He was raised on a sophisticated kind of style.
Tasting women and music drove us folks half wild.
Mom and Dad had a plan for me.
Debutant's in 70s.
Tushar, debutante's is our version of what you were talking about arranged marriages.
It's the closest thing the South has to arrange marriages.
Do you know what a debutante ball is?
Through movies and they've obviously never been to one.
I've never been to one.
Andy went to one, and her family trashed it up is the story.
Her mom really wanted to, and none of them wanted to, when Andy turned 18.
But she kind of, like, made them all go.
So then when they got there, they decided to all get hammered and just trashed.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course.
I've never been to one, surprisingly.
But they are still a thing, which I think we discussed on the well-read podcast,
because, like, y'all were having to inform me of that,
because I was like, no, surely to God, they ain't doing that shit no more.
But like, yeah.
We have not yet just actually said what they are.
It's like where young women of age are basically presented by their family,
debuted by their families to, uh, like a pig at market to the eligible bachelors of the area or whatever in this.
And they all wear, you know, they all gussy themselves up and go and are presented as such at the debut.
My trash has never.
I don't think that we don't have anything like that even near Salina.
Well, no one's going to present any.
any shit to you. Right. Or no one, ain't nobody present nothing.
Not anybody presentable. Yeah, not to the hip. I bet they have one in Cookville or at least did when I was growing up probably. That's probably the closest place. Yeah, they're not. Yeah, my trash ass was never alive. They don't. Yeah. They're not inviting the hillbilly eligible to the no.
Is the debutante ball, since I've never been to one, is it, is it, when you say the women are presented, is it in a ballroom setting and everyone kind of walks around and kind of gets to know each other? Or is it literally like, here's a lady on stage?
They put them on a stage and then when they're done with them, they get a shepherd's hook and they grab them by the throat and they pull them off and throw them into gravy if nobody bids on them.
It's a dance, too sharp. It's essentially a dance and there's like a, historically there was a dance that only.
single women and bachelors would be a part of and it was a real of sorts where you would
dance around and meet everybody this goes back to like you know 18 hundreds and uh in early 1900s
or the good old days or as my dad called it back when it was rock no he's never said that uh yeah
i like how this this starts with and again this is a cover but this starts with why i was raising
a sophisticated kind of style and if you're watching the video
you know, he's got a mullet and a jean vest on.
Yeah.
It's like truly sophisticated kind of gentleman here.
Although I'm sure, you know, he probably was, you know, he had the look, you know.
This is the look you had to have back then.
He could have been a fancy boy growing up in reality.
And they didn't write the song anyway.
But it's funny to me seeing that dude, like, you know, looking all Billy Ray E.
Right.
Ray Syracie saying that he grew up sophisticated.
They sang backup on Billy Ray's first album.
One could argue that Billy Ray
borrowed a lot of what he was doing.
From them?
That was their whole deal, right?
They were a backing band for years for, like,
David Allen Coe and other bands like that.
That's how they started.
Yes.
I mean, they got to be pretty legit.
That's definitely where most of their flags came from.
Music, yeah.
I guess it's pretty legit.
They fucked around and would get co-fucked with them.
I mean, I'm talking purely as musicians.
Yeah.
This is up a minefield.
Yeah, dude.
They're never been through that flag.
Yeah.
I feel like the sophisticated,
using the word sophisticated is a euphemism for, you know,
we're plantation, slave owner, family, we're a high society.
Is that right?
Yeah.
Well, because he then says debutants and all that,
which basically confirms it.
Yeah.
It's pretty much what that means.
Old South.
plantation is.
And it is odd that Confederate
Railroad, which is also an allusion
to that, is coming out and the gate on this
song, basically saying, fuck all that
bullshit.
But keep the racist part.
Right, right. Right.
And that should have been my first clue that they didn't write this
song as I was raising a sophisticated
because they've never, ever once
would say anything like that
in any of their other songs.
Like every other song, like, you know,
Daddy never was the Cadillac kind like that.
You know what I mean?
Like clearly it wasn't these motherfuckers that wrote it,
which that song also hits and will make me cry.
And hopefully we'll do that one day.
Queen of Memphis.
That's all been in my head, in my heart, my whole lot.
All right, well, let's do the chorus real quick.
And then let's get to that second verse because, man,
there's so much in that second verse.
Course is, yeah, and I like my women a little on the trashy side
when they wear their clothes too tight and their hair has died.
Too much lipstick and too much rouge.
It gets me excited.
It leaves me feeling.
and I like my women just a little on the trashy side.
That's a great chorus.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, it's a real long way to say boner, which is.
Confederate boner.
Tushar, you got any thoughts on the chorus before we dive in on this juicy, juicy second verse?
I mean, I just love it because it feels like the trashy, the word trashy is almost like he's using,
clothes tight, hair dyed, too much lipstick and rouge.
He's using all those things as a...
He could have said so much more.
Right?
But those are all indicators to this is basically a lady who likes having fun
and she doesn't really care about anything,
but maybe even just being trashed.
Well, that's kind of...
That goes back to the thing about, you know,
whether we're talking about a slutty woman
or just a woman who is generally...
I think, and it's brilliant in some ways,
I bet women like this song way more than men when it first came out.
Absolutely.
Because there is a southern thing,
and this is probably true all over the world,
where women will judge a woman whose clothes are too tight
and whose hair's died the wrong way,
and she smells like cigarettes and booze,
and she's dancing with their man or too many men,
or they love to talk trash about them,
and they'll say, because they're not allowed to say slutty,
or they weren't back then, trashy.
She's trashy, and he's going,
and I'm celebrating these girls.
Yeah.
I have no doubt.
Go ahead, too, sir.
Sorry, I was just saying the best thing about the video is that what is represented as opposite of this trashy, whatever, he's trying to,
this thing he's trying to draw of what he likes is these two old women that represent everybody else,
like on the other side, who would judge him and who they should aspire to be.
Right.
yeah he chose yeah dude i mean i i i i wasn't drinking and partying in 1992 uh because i was only
because i was five uh like that's the only reason but like this song as you can imagine has come
up at so many like barn farm parties that i've been to and like yeah i would say that i agree
like the women were probably singing it a little louder because they were like he's talking
about me that's me and like it was never a not one person was like
I can't believe that they're condoning this and this song.
Like, yeah, it was that.
It was like, this song is for me and fuck all them city bitches who don't like my big hair
and don't like my lipstick and my mascara and all this stuff.
They just don't know, you know, they don't know the bigger your hair, the closer you are to God.
Like, dude, like, absolutely.
I mean, and there's a slew of songs like that in the country genre.
I'm a redneck woman by Gretchen Wilson's the place of the mind.
And I would say that this,
and a lot of these 90s country songs have this.
This is the closest to a rap mentality we've done on this podcast, I think so far.
Ain't nothing but a hoochie mama.
Hoodrun, hoodrun, hoodrun, hoochemama.
Fucking nailed that.
Knock that part.
The Indian outlaw coming in hot.
Also, one of my wife's favorite songs.
Yeah.
I too am nothing but a hoochie mom.
When that comes on.
You can check my street credentials.
Yeah.
Their list of things are a little different.
Still tight clothes.
Still hair dyed, I think.
Still too much.
All the things still apply.
Oh, dude,
without a doubt,
man,
there's a lot of those
that we'll get in
throughout this series.
I'm certain of parallels
between rap and country
and,
uh,
liking ratchet bitches in one of them.
All right.
Let's get into...
Before we move on real quick,
this is classic honky tonk.
Yes.
Hell yeah.
Oh, yeah.
It's meant to be played at a honky tonk.
The rhythm of the song and the music of it is a dance number.
The guy who wrote it was a bartender at a major cowboy honky talk in Wyoming.
And he wrote it to be a dance number.
Nailed it.
Nailed it.
All right.
Is that it?
Okay.
Sorry.
I'm going to resolve.
read it. This might be,
this is definitely one of my favorite verses.
I don't know. I love all these songs. I feel like I say something like that every episode.
Here we go. Should have seen the looks
on the faces of my dad and mom when I showed up at the door
with a date for the senior prom. Now,
this is a weird thing. It might just be like a turn of phrase to make it rhyme.
But it's funny to me that he comes to his own house already with the date.
Like he's like, I just came to get pictures for, you know, I know y'all wanted to take
pictures, but we've already been partying all of that.
No, I agree with you.
I've actually never thought about it until you were about to start that sentence,
which was like, yeah, the guy showed up at the girl's house and he was met with the shotgun.
You know what I mean?
That is the, well, this particular woman ain't got no daddy.
So, you know.
Yeah, that's what, yeah, right.
No shotgun comes into play.
She don't even live at home.
We're about to get into it, boys.
This is a grown-ass adult.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They said, well, pardon us, son.
She ain't no kid.
That's a cocktail waitress in a Dolly Parton wig.
I said, I know what dad, ain't she cool?
That's the kind I dig.
Yeah, I definitely think that when I was in my teens,
I 100% assumed that this was a prostitute that he had gotten.
But I don't believe that anymore.
But yeah, but yeah, I guess it's like I showed up.
This is probably statutory rape.
It's at least, I mean, if he's in high school.
He might be 18.
He could possibly be 18 in this scenario.
It's definitely at least the kind that we seem to be fine with.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's the non-Hodgkin.
It's the non-Hodgkin's lymphoma of statutory rape.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You get sentenced to zero to high-five.
Yeah.
I think that I'm going to go with these 18.
Just to make it, you know what I mean?
Just to make this podcast more fun.
Well, also, when did 21 and up become a thing, especially out West?
21 and up is a relatively new.
I feel like this dude.
is 18 and he's been out at bars partying,
finding his kind of women instead of partying with high schoolers.
Any family date for senior prom?
Yeah, he says senior prom.
Senior prom's in the latter half of your senior year.
You could very, I mean, I was 18 before I graduated.
Also, for the record, depending on where you are in the South,
17 would be fine, too.
That's true.
Yeah, this is a hilarious thing that we're, like,
trying to figure this out.
Like, did she fuck a kid or not?
Like, technically.
That's why I love this verse so much.
I'm sorry, but like, this is entry here.
A cocktail waitress isn't necessarily 42.
That's also true.
A cocktail, I mean, I used to be a cocktail server.
That didn't hit for nobody.
But a lot of the waitresses that I worked with were like 19, 20, 21, something like that.
We were all the same age, early, very early 20s, like college age.
So, yeah, it don't mean she's 40 or nothing.
I would say most of them are.
I think the trope of the 45.
five-year-old cocktail waitress is from
like Vegas movies where she's
the only one with anything interesting
to talk about. Like she stands out
at 45 because everyone else is
25. Like she got there. Yeah, she
started working there at 19, but now
she's 45, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
For sure, I agree with that.
My favorite line in this verse is
yeah, ain't she cool?
Like almost like, right?
I said, I know, yeah, ain't she cool?
Yeah. And his dad does.
His dad absolutely does.
Yes.
A cocktail waitress in the Dolly Parton wig?
I want to fuck her.
I ain't even seen her.
Of course.
I think I like the Dolly Parton wig because a Dolly Parton wig, I mean,
Dolly wears wigs.
I mean, Dolly has big hair.
That is a statement piece.
You're showing up at a dude's house for his senior prom day and you're wearing a giant wig.
Also, being trashy is a huge part of Dolly's identity.
Like overtly and she's very upfront about that, which is one of the things that hits the hardest about her for me.
So I'm saying it's a very efficient way.
Oh, yeah.
To convey a new character, you know.
Like you say Dolly Parton Whig and you just immediately eliminated the need to say 18 more words that you didn't have to say.
Everybody knows exactly what in the fuck this woman looks like right now and what it is is real good.
It comes poetry.
Yeah.
Word economy.
I want to get back to what Too Sharpe brought up.
I mean, I also love that line of.
The celebration of your dad's trying to call you out, and he's just like, hell yeah.
They got new flavors of Mountain Dew, the quote, Craig Prudder.
His dad's jealous, don't you guys think?
Oh, for sure, dude.
I mean, like, I definitely think it was one of them situations, like, where, like, the mom and dad see it,
and they're both just like, oh, my God.
And then the mom turns her back, and the dad's just like, yeah.
you know like because I've, dude, I've had so many of those experiences with my dad
where like dad, dad will put on the face in front of my mom like, oh, this don't, like I'm
sure I've told you this before.
Like when we saw Titanic, I saw Titanic for the first time, mom and dad were like,
okay, we'll take you.
We've seen it before.
There's just one scene that Dale cover the boy's eyes, cover the boys eyes.
And dad's like, okay, goddamn I will.
So we sat like in front of him.
And it's when obviously Kate Winslet pulls her tities out.
And dad, she goes, Dale, cover his eyes.
So dad covers my eyes and then right when right when it gets good,
dad like did that shit.
Like he pulled his,
he pulled his fingers apart so that I could see the titties,
but didn't tell mama,
you know.
And so,
so yeah,
dads love it when their boys about to get some ass.
Corey is snitching on his dad here on the bubble shot the podcast.
That's fine.
He would love it.
I'm looking at the video real quick.
And because I wanted to know of the video gave his clues to how the mom feels.
Because the song is not a lot.
allude to it, but in the video, the mom is going.
What's the dad doing?
Appalled. The dad, the dad, minds the words,
Stonewall Jackson, mimes the words.
Pardon the son, that ain't no kid. But then it cuts away,
and you see the mom going, and the dad's going.
Hey.
Yeah, we, you know, he got it. You guys nailed it.
Yeah. All right, then it's obviously the course again.
And then this gets into what we were talking about, in my opinion,
the last verse.
This is to me
the,
if the last verse
is the most interesting,
this is the moneymaker.
This is every woman
at the farm party saying,
that's right.
This is my jam.
This is the one that turns it from
what a cool, interesting song to
this is a hit.
We got a hit on our hands, boys.
This is all the single ladies.
I like them sweet.
I like them with a heart of gold.
And I like them brassy.
I like them.
brazen and bold.
They say opposites attract.
Well, I don't agree.
I want a woman just as
tacky as me because I like my
women just a little on the
trashy side. Right.
Yeah, that's the one, that's the
verse where it like sort of makes it all
okay. Not that it never wasn't okay,
but that's the purpose of this. It's like, hey, me
too. Yeah, a
yes, me too.
I'm same as y'all. That's why
I'm into this. You know, like I was saying earlier,
relate to this song, baby. But also
There's no shaming.
Yeah, right.
No shaming.
It's like we're talking to these prostitutes or whatever.
And I said, no, I don't think it is.
And that's where he's like, you know, I like, you know, like them sweet, heart of gold, you know, y'all are good.
Y'all are good women and I know it.
You just, you know.
But pull your titties out.
But pull your titt out.
On a lawnmower.
You know you want to.
I pull my balls out.
And they're like, I do want to.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Also, man, this is the part too.
Like, now that, now that I'm thinking about, that you.
said that this was a fucking
B-side?
Yeah.
This has got to be like top ten
greatest B-sides of all time.
This was the sixth single they released. It was put
out as a single nearly a full
year after the...
Really? It came out in 93 on the radio.
I'll tell you what, them motherfuckers was on
fire. Oh, they had
6. Yeah, yeah.
I mean, that's, dude, that's a good run.
You got six chart-topping hits.
I mean, obviously you want to do more, but like, you can
hang your hat on that shit. Yeah, I don't know how many
went top 10, but this one went number
10, and Queen of Memphis went number two,
and that's on the same album. This is only number
10? I know, that's wild to me.
Fucking what? This is the number one chart-topping
head. That's what I would have thought.
I would have thought this was far away their biggest
song, if you'd ask me before telling
me too. I learned that. I think it
became that, but, you know,
guys, David Allen Coe wasn't
topping the charts other than that one
song. Just,
I've got stay in power.
What I'm saying is,
Trashy women are eternal.
Even back then, you would get a big fan base,
putting that Rebel flag in your videos.
But even back then, I feel like CMT,
they wouldn't say nothing about it,
but they weren't playing you as much.
Confederate Railroad, you know,
hopefully, rightfully so,
didn't get a lot of airplay, boys.
Hmm.
It might also just been that everybody thought there's a back-in band.
I mean, DJ's had so much power back then
to decide who met top ten.
Oh, for sure.
I mean, Paola was still, it still goes on.
But, yeah, I mean, for sure.
But yeah, I mean, you know what, though?
For me, it's different because, of course, I felt I heard that song on the time.
They literally went to the same high school as I, two of them went to the fucking high school that I went to.
Yeah, here we go.
This song is about my aunt.
Yeah.
So I want to throw this out there for the audience, as y'all know.
In about five minutes, I've got to leave.
I got to go pick my kids up first day of school.
So I'm just going to disappear.
But I'm glad we're at least starting to get into this because, yes, Corey, you're from,
y'all are from the same place, right?
You and both of Confederate Railroad?
Can I make one point before we move on to personal stories about CR?
Just real quick, the first part of that last verse,
and you started to touch on this train,
and then we moved on to how he was bringing himself to their level.
He did the, do you guys know, what's that vampire movie, Bella or whatever?
Twilight.
Twilight.
So there's a thing in Twilight that a lot of people have written about how they never describe her.
And the reason they don't describe her is they wanted every young woman reading it to imagine themselves.
He's doing the opposite here where he's trying to paint a broad picture.
So any woman.
He did paint a broad picture.
You know what I'm saying?
But I like that where he goes from sweet, hard of go, brassy, brazen and boat.
He's trying to do the spectrum of, you know, types of trashy women.
Yeah.
That's a chart-topping move.
It is.
It's what they do with fucking horoscopes.
You're like, just say these things and everyone will be like, that's me!
Right.
Oh, my God.
Yeah, like every single fucking woman that I know,
like if you read those lines, they're like,
oh my God, he's talking directly to me.
If you leave a couple of them out,
maybe they're like, I don't know,
but if you say it in that order,
they're like, yes, this is me.
I'm super sweet and awesome,
but also I will kick your dick and fish with a dip in.
Put that on a...
Joe.
Which ones are from Chickamauga?
So, I don't know how it breaks down,
but whoever the ones aren't are from Lafette, which is the town over.
Okay.
You know what I mean?
They're all from right there.
I'm pretty sure.
I mean, now granted, like, you know, that maybe there's past members.
Like, I don't know if they're all exactly still in a band.
But yeah, like, they all started here, like doing like little.
Are they like legends and Chickamauga to this day?
Like, do they hit really hard?
Do people like really give us?
No.
See that?
I mean, I would kind of expect that they would be.
Danny Shirley, who's their lead singer, who was the one there,
meloted up, super hits.
my bug man's still best buddies with him like they still you know tour and so like yeah dude yes people
around here fuck with them you know what i mean but it's not like they're like they don't play
like the fair here all the time if that's what you mean but but their piano player keyboard player
he as often happens to hitters in the country game he turned to god you know he turned to god
and uh i remember he got all his hits in after he got all his yes after he got all his hits in it was
like, oh my God, I ran out of money.
I think I need to be religious.
I don't find that to be a coincidence.
Yeah.
I'm flat, bald, miserable, and nobody
wants to fuck me anymore.
Boy, that's 100%
you just described him to a T.
And I remember one time, I didn't really, I'd seen him
coming to the church
from time and I don't know who he was.
And then finally somebody was like, that's, that's fucking
Chris McDaniel from Confederate Railroad.
I was like, oh, word?
And then it like sank in.
I was like, oh, don't hit.
Like, I don't want him to be here.
I'm only here.
I'm only here because my mama makes me come here because I'm 16.
I don't want him to be.
This don't hit.
And so they were going to have him go.
He was going to sing.
And I was like, okay, I mean, I would like to.
I mean, I'd like, for the record, I like gospel music.
You know, I love gospel music.
I want to hear this guy.
You know, CMT Ward, son, bitch.
He gets up there, y'all.
And what he does is he's taking trashy women and he has changed the lyrics.
No.
Yeah.
Can anybody want to wager a guess as to what it was that he did?
It's pretty simple.
Jesus side?
Jesus side, yeah.
I like my women a little on the Christian side.
And he did it.
That's a goddamn travesty is what that is.
And I ain't going to lie to you.
There will have been a right.
Yeah, that is not okay.
I'm not going to lie to you.
Nobody screamed and hollered at him, but you could kind of tell that like there was
Even in church, people were like, this ain't right.
The ain't it.
I think all the people who were like,
they'd never actually fucked with the OG song.
But anybody in there who like that song hit for them,
this was a goddamn abomination.
And I was fucking furious, man.
Like, I probably walked out.
I'm mad right now.
Did he say, I'm walking out.
I love y'all.
Y'all keep going.
Love you too.
Pray you got through my half.
Yeah.
Corey, did he still say the I want women just as tacky as me?
Oh, no.
A lot of those lyrics still absolutely fit for the Christian woman.
I don't remember anything other than I like my women just still on the Jesus side.
I remember being real mad.
And then he goes up and he gives his fucking testimony.
And we've all talked about this before, but he's giving his testimony.
And, dude, like, he's just talking about, like, how many hits they had,
how much fucking Coke they did and how great of a time that they had,
all the hosy bane.
And I'm sitting there getting the complete opposite of the intended effect out of it.
Hell, yeah.
I'm just like, you're goddamn right, son.
That sounds awesome.
And then basically, like, he's talking about he's like, then the money dried up.
Of course, when the money dries up, the drugs dry up, when the drugs dry up, the women
dry up.
And I don't think he meant it the way that it sounds, but like, it is, that is true.
And so, and then he's talking about coming to the Lord.
And I'm just like, this don't, this, I don't like this.
This don't hit for me.
But he basically was up there just bragging about how much he used to hit.
And now he's.
And it stopped.
So I had to go.
go with God. The implication there
is, but guys, I
mean, if it hadn't a run out
Right, I'd still be...
It was a better life than hanging out with you dumb
motherfuckers at 10 a.m. on Sunday.
And it's funny because like, you know,
like granted, I probably was
in the 1% of
people at that church who had done a lot
of cocaine at that time
and had hung out with hos and
had promiscuous sex and live that lifestyle.
So to some people,
they genuinely do hear that. And
all their experience with that lifestyle is like going to judgment house and seeing it depicted as like,
this is what a teenager does.
And then they have a,
they have a wreck and they go to hell.
But I was just hearing all that.
And I was just like,
who boy,
like I can't,
well,
I'm going to have to pick up a guitar.
That makes sense what you're saying.
Like,
for a lot of people,
that is terrifying.
They know where he's going with the story.
Of course,
wouldn't be there if it kept in.
And so it,
it sounds horrific to them.
because, you know, they don't hit.
Too sharp thoughts.
I mean, I don't know what to...
Replacing, updating this song with a Christian update is just disgusting.
It's just fundamentally disgusting.
And I've never really heard this song before.
Just write a new one.
Just write a new one.
I didn't write this one, though.
Of course. That's true. That's very true.
I did.
Which, honestly, now that I know that I know this wasn't even their song,
and this makes it even more egregious to me.
He did this to a Jerry Jeff tune?
Get the fuck out of here.
Is there a Bollywood version of that?
Well, first of all, does the Hindu religion have any, like, self-flag-a-a-a-k-a-hate?
I hate that word, flagalation.
What does that mean?
Where you just have to stand in front of everybody
and, like, basically confess to your sins and talk about,
oh, yeah, right.
You used to, you know, do all this horrible stuff, and now you're right.
Yeah.
But, like, is there any, like, you know...
I don't think there's anything like that,
but I'm also not like a connoisseur of all of Bollywood songs.
I did want to bring up something.
I wish Trey was on because I wanted to bring it up earlier,
but there's something about the video that was really funny to me
where the opening was, if you'll watch the video,
a Mexican cold open.
Yeah, you know what?
I forgot all about that.
And I got booed.
They got booed, which was hilarious, just off the bat,
because I'm looking like there was cats.
involved and they had to make decisions.
And I wish it would have been,
because I wish it would have been like,
you know,
a couple of white people doing like a Chinese thing of like,
because it's railroads and that's who built the railroads.
Oh my God.
That would have been great.
Now my video are super.
My video was super grainy.
Was it Mexicans or was it white people pretend to be Mexicans?
It was white people.
with sombreros.
That's why I hit for Tushar so much.
If it had to be Mexicans, it wouldn't have been racist.
That's why he noticed.
Tuchar was really like, all right, let's watch this fucking video.
These guys sent me, oh my God, they're in brown face.
Yeah.
He like, he like calls his secretary.
Cancel all my meetings.
We've got a hot one here.
Oh, my God.
I love that so much.
Because that was a firm decision made.
Do the little Chinese soundtrack thing again.
Too sure.
They're like,
boo.
Fucking boo!
You're Asian, you can do it.
Yeah, I can do that.
Too sure, you love white people doing bad racism so much.
Like, obviously you don't love racism.
No.
You love white people doing bad racism so much.
Nothing makes you happier.
It was so funny, man.
Whenever that was shot,
because I literally am thinking about,
these are decisions whoever directed this made
and that's not had nothing to do with the song
this was like a prelude to the song
meaning it wasn't like built in
there's a little sketch yeah it's a little sketch that they did
and it was blatantly racist and it was just
and for no reason it seems like I don't understand
like in fact like until you brought it up
I had forgotten about it because it doesn't like
serve any other person dude all it
all it is is somebody there was drunk
and they're like you all still got them sombreros
from Cinco de Mayo.
Yeah, well, they were sitting,
they were like, this is a talent show scene.
How do we set up that's a talent show?
And somebody was like,
just have the guy say up next on our talent show.
And somebody else was like, no, no, it's better.
It's cinematic if we're in the moment.
Let's come, let's arrive in the middle of a scene.
Who's the act before them?
And then, like, fucking Dale was like,
I got a Mexican outfit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And everybody, they were just like, look,
it's got to be racist.
People come to expect a lot from us.
Like, we're going to have the flags there.
So it's got to be like a different type of racism so that we can divert expectations.
Yeah, that's my artistry here.
It's like, listen, we got to be racist.
Well, hell, we done got the stars and bars.
No, God damn it, Terry, you're out of your fucking element here, all right?
I'm talking about cinematic racism, man.
Set the fuck down.
You got to keep innovating or you're going to get, you know, you'll run out of shit, man.
Otherwise, we're just like them.
Yeah, if you don't grow, you shrink.
The other thing I really, I mean, about the song itself is that trashy women, they still kept it white.
Do you know what I'm saying?
Like they didn't say, I like whatever, and then they inserted a black girl or a Mexican girl or whatever.
It was still like, she looks like Dolly Parton still.
Right.
And maybe that's just the reflection of the time.
When did this song come out?
92.
93.
Okay.
Coming out of 92, it was recent 93,
it's definitely a reflection of who their fan base is too.
But it's a fan base they cultivated by hanging the stars and bars.
So I'm not giving them anything by saying that.
And that's true.
I don't know if it's because of this song,
but like,
it's interesting.
Maybe it's just because I'm so used to hearing the word trash,
following the word white.
Like, for real, but like, sincerely,
when I think of trash, obviously,
let's be, let's not discriminate here.
every type of race, religion, sex, anyone can be trashy.
There's trashy-ass Mexicans.
There's trashy black people.
Everyone can be trashy.
It does not discriminate.
However, there's some trashy gender non-binary folks out there.
For sure.
We hung out with them and done drugs.
For sure.
The Jewish people I don't find to have as much trash.
There's some trash, but you're right there.
I'm sure there is.
but like trash in New York.
My point is, my point is, like, when I hear the word trashy,
I automatically think of a white person,
and I think in this one specific area, that's actually okay.
You know what I mean?
Like, it's fine that we're not fucking parading black people,
Mexicans going, look at this trash.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, I think it was a smart move on their part.
Black trash, brown trash, yellow trash.
We like them all.
It's like a.
Dr. Seuss Trash book.
The other thing I really
liked about the video is that
they had a really
large lady at one point.
Yeah, of course. Fat trash. Yeah.
It was great because it's like, you're not
just saying I like hot, trashy
women. No. You're like, I just like
trashy women. Yeah. And that's more of a
mindset than a like...
It's really a lifestyle.
Lifestyle.
Dude, there have been
women that were like actually kind
of ugly that I was attracted to just.
just because of how trashy they were.
And that's why he is a humanitarian, ladies and gentlemen.
Give this man an award.
There's a Reddit, was it sub?
Subreddit, yeah.
It's a subreddit called Flob Trash,
and it's just porn or porn-adjacent things,
but with trashy people involved.
Oh, flood trash?
It's a FLUB, if you're listening at home.
Club!
I mean, I'm subscribing.
right now. Oh no, I've lost
connection. Can you guys still hear me? I've lost connection
to my camera it says for some reason.
Club.
Yeah, there it is. Flob trash.
Yeah, you're off camera, but we can hear you.
Oh, dude, immediate hits
on this one.
There we go. Let me...
The first fucking post on there is this
girl, hey, if
even four guys
upvote my 20-year-old ass, I'll
celebrate and fuck myself.
That's just, that's just
That's someone trying to pimp their only fans.
Do you know her?
No, no, no, no, but look.
Second one, a woman pulling her tini's out on a lawnmower.
It's kidding.
I said it.
I said it.
I guess we'll have to edit that out, Drew.
I put that on YouTube.
All right, you guys, any last thoughts?
My video is shot, and we're done anyway.
I guess my last thoughts are Jerry Jeff Walker died last year.
Yeah.
Yes, he did.
And the guy who wrote it died this year.
Chris Wall.
Damn.
Damn.
Wrong kid died.
Yeah.
But was it a trashy death?
That's the real thing.
No, it was COVID.
Yeah, and Chris Wall was cancer and he was in a hospice.
Cancer can be kind of trashy if it was lung cancer.
COVID can be super trashy if you got it in Florida.
Yeah, right.
If you hit a woman on that lawnmower.
Yeah, if it's your fault that you can.
got it. That's super trashy.
Well, all right.
All right. We good? Last thoughts?
Last thoughts is I can't believe.
I think I'm going to research. I'm going to do my research on B-sides, but in my opinion,
there's no way this isn't top ten of all time B-side for a record.
I'm with you.
Even though I'm not with you guys because my cameras stop working for no reason.
That's okay. I'm with you.
Too sure? Parting words, buddy.
I do love these things because I do get to understand white trash a little bit more.
Yeah.
This has been a little microcosm into a very niche part of an already kind of niche culture.
Right.
As far as that goes, is this been the best song or is it Bubba Shot the Jute Box?
Because that one, you was really having a time wrapping your head around.
I love that one.
That was the first one.
Yeah, first episode.
That first episode was a good one.
was great. This one felt a little bit like, you know, as you said, this is not a storytelling,
but it slipped in there. The story slipped in there and how he wrapped it up and kind of pointed
at himself that it's like he likes trashy women, but he's also a trashy man. And here's this
problem story. All right. Love you guys. Bye.
