wellRED podcast - Women's Basketball, Eatin Dogs, Immortal Crabs

Episode Date: June 18, 2025

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They're the liberal rednecks that makes some people upset. They got three big old dicks that you can sun. We are here. Here we are. Yeah, I wanted to ask you about a couple things that, and I'm sure that there's several things you want to talk about. On account of the world is exploding, you know, all around us and nothing hits. But before that, I did want to talk about something a little bit more superficial. And that is, so you're a big basketball dude.

and not that I want to put you into a corner here and have you have to say, yeah, well, I don't watch the WNBA as much. You know, this whole, like,

what's your take on this whole Caitlin Clark Angel Reese situation? Like, I keep seeing stuff and I'm like, I don't feel like Caitlin Clark is being that big of a bitch, but then I see some stuff and I'm like, well, I don't know,

maybe she is. And then I'm like, is everybody just jealous because she hits? Yeah, so I don't know people that are jealous. Sorry, my brother's sex with me. That's cool. Man, there's so many facets to me.

I got into it with Nick Murphy on this the other night. Shout out Nick Murphy. His Netflix introducing just dropped. Yeah, last Sunday. You can check it out. It's a very funny. He's a very funny guy. I think a lot of times when you have this conversation,

you really end up having a conversation about who's fans of who. Right. And or what the two basketball players' personality. are and then there's the third topic of them as players. Right. So to give everyone some backdrop, and I know people don't necessarily care about sports, but you might care about everything around this,

which is involves, I think. I was going to say, I think it involves patriarchy, sexism, definitely involves racism, and then definitely involves, like, I don't know, the conversations surrounding media and clout versus reality. Sorry, so here's the backdrop. Katelyn Clark was one of the most, decorated and best basketball players in college of all time,

kind of carrying a team on her back all the way to the national title game, where she lost to Angel Reese. Angel Reese made headlines by sort of doing one of Caitlin's celebration moves in her face and then sort of being towards the media, like, all y'all ever ask about is that, you guys act like there's no other players in this tournament. That makes headlines. Then her team goes out and beats Caitlin Clark's team. So that's the genesis of their quote-unquote rivalry.

At the same time that that was happening, Caitlin Clark was literally becoming the Great White Hope of women's basketball. I mean, it was wild. People who do not give a shit about women's basketball suddenly gave a shit about it. I mean, quite literally, well, sure, you, but also like quite literally people who were the loud, You know, avatar-wise, Dave Portnoy, Theo Vaugh. So she's white.

She's Catholic. Now, it's come out since then she's pretty liberal. But at the time, it was like a very culture war thing. Now, again, this is where I talk about, like, people conflating shit, man. I'm telling you who got on the Caitlin Clark bandwagon. I'm not telling you who Caitlin Clark is. Exactly. That's right.

And like I said, it came out. I'm pretty sure. I don't follow that closely, but I'm 99% sure. I saw a bunch of stuff about her telling people not to fucking vote for Trump because he was psychotic. Yeah, I mean, that was sort of my whole take with it.

Like, when I see everything, I'm like, it really seems to me that Caitlin Clark is oftentimes getting punished for who likes her instead of who she is. You know what I mean? I think that's fair. And then I think Angel Reese gets punished partially for like coming across as

kind of cunty. But I think as an athlete, you sort of understand it. Like, yo, I just won the national title. Why are you asking me about this bitch?

I completely agree. Maybe it's coach she's white, you know. She also, though, since the NBA, and this is the next part of the story, so let me tell that part of the story. Since being in the NBA,

people have made a joke that Kaylin Clark is breaking records with triple doubles, which is true, while Angel Reese's stats look more like Morsan Gortat, which is a random Washington Wizards player.

What's unfair to me about that, is where Sondgar Todd averaged a double double, but he was like, it was like 12 points and 10 boards. Angel Reese is averaging like 15 and 10. That's not great until you look at other WMBA statistics, until you look at the fact that Caitlin Clark's averaging close to a triple double, but with like 21 points, that is, the triple double part's super impressive, but the points part, if you're going to do an NBA comparison, that's George Hill. Right. but you don't do an NBA comparison.

You keep it in the WMBA. Caleb Clark is on pace to be one of the ten bests of all time, and Angel Reese is not. And that's true. Andrew Reese is not Lisa Leslie. She's not comparable to other great big women. She's comparable, but she's not there. She's not.

So it's been now two years in the league, I think, year and a half. What I just said is true. But Angel Reese keeps complaining about some of the same things she's always complained about. Calling herself, I think, alleged, as I recall, this is one of Nick's arguments. When I got into it, my buddy Nick, he was like, she's trying to remain relevant and get clout and stay in the media by saying she's Caitlin Clark's nemesis. She's her arch rival. And that would be like, Morten Gorsat saying he is the arch rival of Steph Curry. It would just be ridiculous.

I don't think the gap's that big, but more importantly, I don't think she's doing it to be, like, to me, it's like, no, she believes it. Now, it's dumb, but that's an athlete for you. Yeah, you have to believe it. And you say it. Right. I mean, to get where she is now, to be that good in college, like, you have to have this mentality of I'm the best, I'm the best, I'm the best, I'm the best. And that just doesn't turn off because you have a bad season. Now, separate from Angel Reese, just putting Caitlin in her own little study,

she has all these bandwagon white fans, and two things are happening. One is she is absolutely getting the fuck beat out of her. Veterans are saying the same type of shit that veterans in the NBA used to say about LeBron. You know, we'll see. He's getting lucky. Wait until he comes to my town. Well, let's see her do it for five years. Well, let's see her do it in the playoffs.

It's the same shit we heard at first from LeBron. And you're watching her just get hammered. And then the media plays the clip of her getting hammered. So it feeds into what these sort of paranoid white people already think, which is the world's out to get her and them. Right, right. DEI's coming for us all. That's not her fault either.

It's not entirely the DEI people, fearful DEI people's fault that they feel that way. ESPN is 100% playing into it. Pat McAfee's 100% playing into it. Dave Portnoy's 100% playing into it. And I mean, kind of ironically, the old heads for the most part, who would be her rival,

not for the most part, but at least 50% of them are white. A lot of the shit talkers are white WMBA analysis people. So it's, you got like 17 things. going on at once is what it appears to me to be, which is like a young, brash, great player is getting the things that happen to young brash great players. This one happens to be white, and because Angel Reese is a large, loud black woman who was, when that, when Kael and Clark

came upon the national scene, pitted as her foil, it's fueled into that, it's fueled into that, narrative. Angel Reese herself has fueled that narrative by saying, hell yeah, I'm her arch rival. It turns out skill-wise, she's not. There are women in the WMBA who are better right now than Kaelin-Clark. Some of them are black, some of her white. Why does no one give a shit about that? Well, because it's not, quote-unquote, the story. Right. So there's my full nuanced take on it. I don't know. No, I mean, I hear you. That's pretty much what it's, it's really unfortunate because, like, I really, like, I say really, she, as much as I can enjoy watching, I'm not a fan of women's sports, you know, crucify me.

I don't care. That's fine. But the Caitlin Clark story was fun. You know, I enjoyed watching it. And to me, it was like, obviously, yes, I would be stupid to say that race doesn't a little bit play a part in it because it's just like when Tiger Woods came out and he was a black dude dominating at golf. Well, that's a big story because stereotypically, it's been fat white dudes that did it.

And I think that in basketball, it's similar. Like, don't even wrong, Larry Bird backed it up. But, like, it was fun to watch a white dude to those things. You know what I mean? It's very fun. I will say that, though, if you look at who the best players in WMBA have been year to year, it's not, it's got, I don't know this for a fact because I don't pay another. But I know, like, it has been Sue Bird and Diana Tarasi before.

These are white women. But I do know it's been Shemequa Holtzclaw before, too. so I hear you, but that's kind of what I'm saying is men, like frankly, male sports fans. Exactly. We think of that way. Fans of male sports brought that narrative with them to its pert and extent.

There's a lot of WMBA fans who've been like, it's not crazy to have the best player be white. I mean, Dieterati was dominant, like fucking dominant dog. There's another one from Connecticut with a fucking Italian last name. I can't even remember because I'm not actually a fan. But anyway, yeah.

See, when I, it's funny because this is just clear how I don't pay attention to the sport that much. Because, like, I don't even know who those people are. When I think of, like, the greatest women's basketball players of all time, my brain immediately goes to, like, Cheryl Miller and swoops. You know what I mean? Because those were like. What kind of pre-WNBA? Exactly. That was pre-WNBA.

Also, with Cheryl Miller, it's that she was Reggie's sister. So I'm going to hear about her more because I was a men's basketball fan. And she might be the best of all. all time. It's hard because there's no WMBA stats on her. Right. But just in terms of like comparing her to her peers. Her high school was insane.

Well, comparing her to her peers, the gap is so insane. But just like when you start pulling up NBA players from the 80s and 90s, yeah, but today's players would murk her. Like they work her ass, dog. Of course, dude. And like, and I feel that way about, you know, they'll, uh, it seems like in every sport, besides baseball for some reason, everybody all, adjust the goats with the times, you know, it seems like, you know, somehow come along,

like, Patrick Mahomes, you know, obviously there's still a lot of people that don't want to say this, but it's like, I think most normal human beings that love the sport of football can watch Patrick Mahomes right now and go, yeah, he's, he's one of the greatest ever do it, period. And we've been, and saying that for three years, even he was really young. And I think everybody would know, like, if you took Patrick Mahomes and put him back in the 70s and he had his same skill set, nobody could do shit about that. And, And that's not the dudes in the 70s fault. It's just that training is different.

And because of the way the guys in the 70s did it, they made the people in the 80s better and so on and so on. But like in baseball, they never do that. Like, they'll still be like, Babe Ruth is the greatest. And Babe Ruth is the greatest of all time. And it's like, bro, like, can you imagine him facing Randy Johnson one time, just one time?

Like, he's going to break his neck looking at the fucking ball. And it's like, I'm, you know, I don't understand why they do that. But yeah, I mean, LeBron. put him in the fucking 80s like I don't think any of those dudes can even touch it they can't guard him can they no I mean they could get away with a little bit rougher play but he'd adjust to that I think his career would be shorter but no he would probably average 44 a game they'll always say that with like you know bill lambere you know in Detroit or whatever they're like oh yeah the lamb beer was tough whatever I'm like I'm like dude lebron would just put his dick on lambere's face like he's so much bigger I mean

lamb year would get hurt trying to hurt lebron yeah that's what I'm saying yeah yeah Bill M. Beer is like an insurance salesman. Yeah. Right. Right, but he was white and it was neat. Yeah. You know. But yeah, I, you know, that's my long way to take.

Like, do I feel like Angel Reese has come across well outside, you know, outside of the fucking stuff we're looking at? No, but you can't not put it in the stuff. She is a powerful, talented black woman. They do have, especially in the world. we're talking about now where white sports fans come involved. They do have a, they're held to an unfair and higher standard. Sure. But she has come across as like overly confident.

She has come across as like, you're shit talking and you got knocked out in the second round multiple times. But it doesn't change some of the stuff she says about how Caitlin Clark gets treated and the media and all that. But that's also not Caitlin Clark's fault. Exactly. It's not Caitlin Clark's fault that she's beloved on the one side. And it's not Caitlin Clark's fault.

that everyone's like, bitch, you ain't proved nothing yet. Right. We're going to hack you all the time. And I do like Caitlin Clark, I think. I do too. I like that she exists. I don't know much about her. Me either, but I like to watch her play basketball.

And like not to be super woke, but I think we all know it's true that like if Angel Reese acted the exact same way that she acts and she was white, the people that call her a cocky-ass bitch would be like she's confident. You know what I mean? She's real confident. Why do you have a problem with that? Yeah.

It's almost as if it's all entertainment. It's all, I mean, it really is. And I mean, that's that you're right that that is the narrative that ESPN pushes. And it is funny hearing you say that about like, these are the two most talked about women in the WNBA. And to hear you say like, and they're not even close to the best ones is like, blows my mind. But I know you're right. Clark's much closer than Reese.

Like, she is the best young player. That is true. like hands down clips and i know that these are dudes sharing only the bad ones to make angel reese look bad but don't i've seen some compilations where it's like what the fuck like how like missing wide open lay up most of the best players yeah of course yeah that's just that's just how it be yeah she's not that but like her acting like she is isn't some sort of a front to whiteness katelyn clark integrity of the game it is what athletes do Right. I have one more, I have another thing that I wanted to ask you about, but first I want to preface it by saying, I just found this out while I was at the beach.

Do you know that certain lobsters or crabs, one of them I can't remember, but like they are biologically immortal. But the only reason that they die is because they grow so much that they can't find a shell big enough for themselves and they suffocate. But if they were able to find a shell big enough for themselves, they could live forever. That almost have to be a crab because lobsters bolt and create a new shell, unless they can't make a shell big enough, I guess. I think maybe that's it. But either way, it's like biologically, they can't just die. You know, they have to, would be murdered by themselves. Not to argue with you, but like, isn't that dying? It's like, oh, the only reason I'm dying is my heart stopped working. Well, yeah, but I guess in our sense it would be like the only, like, how would I, if, if you're immortal, like biologically immortal, you could still be in a house fire and die.

Like an outside element could still kill you. I guess the thing is like there's no other reason for them to have to die. Like a human being, if we stayed as healthy as we could for however long, you might make it to 110, but eventually, yeah, your organs are going to fall apart. But I guess these crabs, that just don't happen unless they're suffocated. You know what I mean? Yeah. Well, what's your question other than that I know.

I have heard of this. Where are you at on boiling lobsters and crabs while they're still alive? I've seen a lot of this go around. Well, what's the alternative killing them? What do people do? I've been wondering that. I'm like, do you knock them? Like, do you hit them with a tiny frying pan?

Well, I think if you do that, you damage the shell and then that's not what people want, which I'm not saying that's a good enough reason to boil them alive. I don't eat a lot of it. I haven't thought a lot about it. There is something I made peace with long ago when I was like young and actually. listening to vegetarians for the first time. Quick story. New Year's Eve, Australia, 2007, maybe.

That had to be a hell of a time. It was, dude. But we had friends come in. I can tell you four or five stories from that night. I can tell you about the mild sexual assault, my best friend in the world, who is, hands down, the best man I've ever known, committed. Well, he just was just sprinting.

through the streets of Sydney screaming, Happy New Year, you fucking Shayla's, while he tried to kiss women, you know, like kiss says the ball drop, midnight kiss.

Yeah, who just didn't want him to. He did it to even a lady cop, and she threatened to arrest him. And he does, and I'm not kidding, hands down, the best man I know.

Right. Like he is better, like whoever's listening right now, think of the best man that you know, I swear to God he's better. I think he's kinder. Anyway. That's crazy what that says about,

us as man. And the time period we were living in and things like, well, it's a tradition. And like, let's the Wild West, dude. He just tried to kiss him. And then if they didn't, he moved on. Anyway, but he kissed a few. Anyway, we had friends come in to visit. One of them was Teets.

And it was around that time we were hung over. And there was a conversation going on. There were two vegetarians living there. And then one of the gals visiting was actually a vegan. and they were sort of talking about it in the kitchen when my friend Daniel was kind of an asshole was like pushing them on why. And for the two vegetarians,

it was mainly environmental, like when I realized how much meat industries are currently hurting the planet. That's horrible. And if you go vegetarian, like how much better it would be, that sort of started me down the rabbit hole and then you look at the health benefits

and then you, you know, blah, blah, blah, right? The vegan was like, I also just have a problem with it on a moral level to kill animals so that I can live when I don't have to. And I even, when like you guys make bacon out of this pan, I'll clean it twice and dry it because I don't want the sort of death from that animal

on whatever I'm making. And then somebody said something else. And then my buddy Pete was like talking about the flashulence of cow. in the atmosphere and my buddy Kevin teats who you know walks in at this time. Not the best man I know but one of the funnest. And he hears the flatulence talk and is like I totally respect that. I prefer you know like getting game from my dad that's been hunted.

I like that. I just hate it when people are like the essence of the animals in the pan. and it got like really awkwardly quiet and he goes even though he said somebody just say that and she goes through her credit she goes i did i know it sounds ridiculous but it's how i feel and he just goes all right well i'm gonna go out on the balcony and eat some bacon yeah i mean that's how by the way i'm not kidding this might sound dumb to everybody but like i promise you in 2007 i didn't even know what vegan was i knew vegetarian like i'd heard vegetarian my whole life vegan would have blown the fuck out of my mind.

And it, like, it still, I get it. It blows my mind that anybody can just give up butter and cheat. Like, I've, listen, I will, there are vegan meals that I like that I still eat from time to time because I do my best. With all the damage I've done previously in my life, I'm trying to save my heart, you know. And there's certain meals that I'm like, this is good. I genuinely like this. Like, it is, like, regardless of it being vegan, this tastes good to me. me. But then, you know, a couple days later, I'm just like grilled cheese. What up, dog? And like,

I could probably go a whole week without eating meat as long as I was able to have macaroni and cheese and like the green beans cooked in bacon fat. You know what I mean? Like all the, all the cheat codes that vegetarians get away with that vegans can't, you know. I don't think the vegetarians can honestly say they're vegetarian if they're using fat, just for my experience with. They do, though. But the cheese, I mean, the vegetarians who I'm friends with eat a fuck ton of cheese. Of course.

Drink a fuck ton of milk. Love eggs, you know. Yeah. And I'm like, how is that? If you're a vegetarian and your whole reason is like, I don't like the way they're treating animals, how can you. Well, to be fair, the two that I know, it was more environmental. That's fine. By the way, it's fine to do any of them, obviously.

And I'm not even saying, like, dude, honestly, if you make that your lifestyle and you can commit to it and you don't cheat, like, yeah, get on a pedestal. you deserve it. You put in the work, you know. But this reminds me, ironically, of the conversation we were just having about those two ladies. Like sometimes vegetarians make a decision like that for themselves. They talk about it because it's important to them. But they're not particularly self-important. No more self-important than any other 20-year-old.

And then people who don't like it, you know, create this. Or one or two of them are awful. And then it becomes this whole narrative. Now, I'm talking about vegetarians. Vegans, absolutely deserve everything. I get. No, I'm kidding. Well, if they were just here.

go ahead i was just going to say going back to your question at some point in thinking about those things i have made peace with the fact that in order for me to live something has to die yes that is a fundamental fact of the universe that i live in and people will argue with me like no you can become vegan and it's like plants are alive dog yeah now like you and i can have a conversation about consciousness and where you draw the line and all that stuff i mean pita had this thing for pescatarians where were coming after them. And they were like, hey,

pescatarians, I know a lot of you will eat fish because it's such a much more basic nervous system inside of fish. You feel like it's not as bad to kill them.

Well, guess what? Fish are every bit as smart as chickens. And a lot of pescatarians are like, so I can eat chicken? Yeah,

bro. Like pig and cow are out, but what you've done is added chicken to my diet. Yeah, yeah. And when I was thinking about all that,

like I get all, like I do, Like, man, you watch little videos of little cute pigs eating pineapples. Like, it's fucked up. And like, man, cows will cry when they go get slaughtered. Yeah. Like, this is the reality of what we're living in. And so on some level, I've made peace with that.

And then you just have to decide where your line is. When I eat lobster, which is rare and I don't eat crab because I don't enjoy it, I just don't think about what you said. Yeah, I know. If I was in a place or part of a culture that did it regularly, I might think more about it. I have not had calamari or squid in years. Since you found out they dreamed. Them dreaming and changing colors when they dream has fucked me up.

I have not ordered or personally purchased pork in years. Ever since I saw little piggies eating little pineapples and they became near and dear to my heart. Now, does that mean I haven't eaten pork? No, of course not. Like if my mom makes pork chops, it's already dead and I'm eating it. That's, whether that makes me hypocrite or not, fine. But to your question, I don't think about it. If I was eating it regularly, I do think it would bother me to think about that we always cook these by torture, literally torturing them.

Right. Like, at least with the cow, like, you know, they don't strangle it slowly. They stick the no country for old men gun in its head. To me, with the cow, it's not how they die. It's how they live. And the same thing with chickens. You know what I mean? Like, I was reading this thing the other day of people talking about.

about like organic, um, uh, free range chickens and this dude was talking about it and he was basically like, don't get me wrong. Free range is better than complete cage. He's like,

but I think you need to understand what the qualifications for free range is. He's like, free range just means that instead of being packed in that crate, they're just in a slightly larger one where they can sort of turn around a little bit. He's like what you want is, uh, it's farm farm raise. That's when they truly are like,

they can go wherever. they want or whatever. And he's like, and that stuff's more expensive because if you have your chickens like that, by virtue of that, you have less chickens. You know what I mean? So you have to sell them at a higher price. And I'm like, I hear all that. All that's great. And then I think about like, all right, with what they were just saying about the fish, you know, the pescatarian thing. I tried to get this going for a long time where like when I was doing like vegan, vegan three days a week and I was pescatarian otherwise. I was like, I need a name for it that lets everybody know I'm not doing this because I

give a shit about the fucking animals. I'm doing it because my dad had three heart attacks. You know what I mean? I need to be able to do this. And if I ever mention it, people don't think I'm trying to get self-righteous. Because like with pescatarians, like, dude, there's, I imagine that there's a lot of people that are pescatarian that don't think about like, well, it's fine to do it to a fish. They're just like, that's good omega-3s.

You know what I mean? Like, you don't have to be a douchebag to do any of these, right? You don't have to talk about it as the thing. That's true. I mean, I realize our job involves talking a lot. Sure. Then you can explain yourself. There was a lineman at UT.

He's in the league now, and I can't remember his name who was pescatarian. And they did, like, a little thing on him, like, how much fish he has to buy every week? Because he, like, weighed 360 pounds or whatever. A lot. A lot. And he was like, I just grew up like that. and his parents were like, we just think it's healthier. They were like, you know, we do love cows and we love pigs, but like, we really just think it's healthier.

I think there's a way to do most things and not be a dick. I mean, maybe not like war or something, but the best argument I've heard, and it's also, at first I was like, that's one of those very stupid arguments that the, the anti-peda people make where they're like, they're like, yeah, cows farts hurt the ozone, and I'm doing my part by eating all the cows, even though they don't get that like because we eat so many cows, there's more cows. Like you're not, the more you eat cows, the more cows there will be because they get bread because you're eating the cows.

Unless you can eat all the cows so that there aren't any more cows. Right. Like if we, that's the thing is people that say it's like with deer, maybe it's different. You know, we have to shank the population control or whatever. I know that's the excuse they use and I don't give a fuck because my brother shoots them and I eat them and that's great. But like, yeah, with cows, if we all stopped eating cows, there would be less cows. You know, that's the thing.

But this one dude, and he was totally making it as a joke. But it really got me in thinking. I'm like, dude, that's fucking true. He's like, he has, Peter said something about eating fish. And he was like, let me get this straight. Fish can eat fish, but I can't fucking eat fish. You know what I mean? And I was like, at first that sounded stupid, but I was like, right.

So like, it's totally cool for a fucking shark to eat some fish because they'd go, well, they're higher up on the food chain. So that's what they do. And it's like, all right, I'm higher up on the food chain than a fucking grouper. You know what I'm saying? So like, why not? Peter's existence is the counter argument to that. What I mean is there's no sharks trying to tell the other sharks,

hey, man, we're better than this. You know, it is PETA being like, well, we're better than sharks, but it would be hard for you from your position eating animals to be like, uh, uh, uh, you can't say we're better than animals. How do you feel about lab grown meat and its place in this conversation? Man, I don't know if me and you have talked about this before and maybe it was a POA conversation. And after I say this, we'll go to a break and then we'll continue. But me and Tray have had this conversation a lot because most of our conversations center around food.

And our whole thing that we came to was basically like, when I was at Disney World with my family last year in the Disney cafeteria, they had a beyond meat, which is like one of the most popular, you know, meat substitutes that's actually vegan or whatever. they had a beyond what I'm telling about but go ahead no no I know I know I know but I'm getting there I'm getting there so the beyond I had a meatloaf that was beyond me and as far as meatloaf goes because you know with a meatloaf you're it's not the same consistency as like a steak or whatever it's it's just mush and I think that they nailed it you know what I mean I really think they nailed it and I was like this is really fucking good and if I could guarantee they were all like this I could do it but we were talking about how they're just not there yet with like a rib eye because a rabi is not just about the taste it's about how steak feels like the consistency of it. Your rules. Exactly. But our point was if they could grow in a lab and I could take a test and I genuinely ate a ribeye and couldn't tell that it was lab grown and it tastes the same to me, I'm all for it. The same way I felt like with lab grown, because to me it's like if they do taste the same,

you're an asshole for not because we had this conversation about lab grown diamonds. I saw this girl on Twitter who like broke up with her fiancee because. he got her an engagement ring and she found out it was lab grown. And it's like, but it's still a fucking diamond. Like, you really need the death of the fucking little African kids in order for it to hit for you. Like, it looks the same and biologically it's the same. And that's how I feel about the meat. If they fucking figured it out and I could not tell the difference, I'd feel like an asshole for not just eating that, you know?

Yeah, I agree. I mean, there's other conversations, I guess, to have in terms of cost. and when you're talking about feeding the whole planet and then also the environment once you scale it. But morally, you know, because like there's like several reasons to not eat meat, right? And the moral one, which is like, you know, animals suffering and all that, the lab thing solves that. Takes away from that.

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Download the Rocket Money app today and tell them you heard about them from our show. Skew. But yeah, apparently for some people it is the suffering. But like, I would love it if I could because we, you know, my mom and dad, I'm sure I've told you this, they'll still eat basically everything, but they haven't eaten pork since. We got our pet pig. You know what I mean? We got, my mom was like, I just can't do it. And my mom's cool about it.

She'll tell you, she's like, I'm aware that I'm, it's very hypocritical of me to still eat cows and stuff like that and only look at the pig is this. She goes, but it's sort of like in the South where like people will be homophobic their whole life and then their son comes out as gay and now they're not, you know, it's like sometimes it just does have to happen to you. Yeah. I think, I think that's true. But also, whether.

it's easy to make an argument that what I'm about to say is not right, but it's factual that it's true. And everyone does this. Even vegetarians have this. Vegetarians can be friends with people who eat meat. Yes. They can't be friends with people who eat dog. Not in this country.

Me either. Well, my point is like, we do rank the animals. Absolutely. And so for someone to suddenly be like, I just give a fuck about pigs and not cows. It's not that hypocritical. Right. You're right.

You're right. You're being honest about your perhaps immoral viewpoint. But like it's not like. It's just like I fuck with these pigs and I don't fuck with those cows. And that's just me, you know. And that is weird, but it's weird. We don't eat dogs. That's true.

And also to give my mom credit, my mom doesn't, my mom doesn't think less of anyone who does eat pigs. You know what I mean? What about people who eat dogs? Yeah, she would, I've never heard her talk about it, but I think I could put words in her mouth. But you know who she voted for. Yeah, yeah, right. Well, like, and that's the thing too.

I struggle with that. We can, but I struggle with that too because I'm like, you know, there are a lot of times when somebody will do something horrible and somebody will try to, you know, justify it by being like, well, you don't understand that's their culture. And I'll go, great, their culture sucks. Like, that's not good. Their culture is wrong about that. There's some cultures that marry 14-year-olds. Their culture fucking sucks, right? But then I go, however, we just decided that dogs were off the eat list.

Someone just decided that. And it's like some people have pet pigs, you know, and they would think it was insane if you came and ate their fucking pig. And so in some places, maybe they can't get anything but a dog, you know. So I don't fucking know. Which dog do you think hits the hardest to eat? shit. I think a pug would taste good as fuck. French bulldog.

Okay. Yeah, French bulldog. I'm with you. You want it, you don't want that fat. They're all... A greyhound would suck. Let's be fair on that. A greyhound would not be good.

I think you're right. St. Bernard? Might be good. I can't tell how much of that's fat and how much of that's a nice... Hair. Fluffy hair coating. Great Pyrenees would have a good backstrap. People are going to hate this.

Let's move on. Well, I don't care, but I think we need to be fair. You know, we've been, we've been on the side of an animal. Well, to be honest, I think it's fucked up to eat dogs. And I recognize that. And I recognize that when Pete is like, well, I think it's fucked up to eat cows. I got to be like, yep, I get you. That's how you feel.

It's not how I feel. That's why I eat them. Well, David Cross had that great bit about how, like, if tunas were as cute as dolphins, we wouldn't eat them either. You know what I mean? Like, like, if you ate a dolphin, people would, would think you were crazy, but you eat at Tuna, nobody gives a fuck. Like, we just, someone a long time ago decided this, and we all have just fallen in line.

Well, most of it was, like, usefulness. Like, dogs were our companions because they'd help us hunt. Hunt, right. And then cows were easy to herd, and they gave us milk, so we started doing that, and eventually we had to eat them. Deer were the ones things that we would hunt down, so, you know, that became game, birds, too. Like, we didn't eat dolphins because it's hard as fuck to kill a bunch of dolphins. and it was easy as fuck to catch a bunch of stupid tuna. Right.

Did you know that... Flipper didn't exist in the... I'm in, what? Did you know that pigeons, like, the reason why they stay in... Okay. Do you know the reason why they just stay in cities and just walk around worklessly and have to have people feed them? I saw this recently, too, but I've forgotten it.

We took pigeons and domesticated them for our use for, like, carrier pigeon activity and shit and then when we didn't need them for that anymore they just all the pigeons that we have now they're just like we can't we can't do nothing like we're so we need y'all y'all are the ones that helped us and so they just they can't they can't exist without people throwing them bread and shit and just sitting in cities like that's all they can do because we just fucking bastardized them man that's interesting i've often wondered about that with city rats like city rats are so good and efficient and badass in a city setting, but a lot of what they do for food is scavenge.

And if there's not enough food to scavenge, I think they'd be like, well, I mean, you know, the country, quote Corey Forster, country mouse called city mouse a huge queer. I don't think that they could survive in the country, but it's also undeniable to recognize how tough they are, but only for that environment. Yeah, dude, it's like there's some bad. ass motherfuckers in New York that are super tough dudes, you know, but you put them out in the country, maybe it's a little bit different. You know what I mean?

Like, it's a different ballgame. I was thinking about that with breeds of dogs, too, man. Dogs were bred from wolves to be hunting companions and protectors and herd and all, you know, all these things that are super useful that for the most part, in most places we don't do anymore. My dog proved he could survive in the woods for, you know, for. was it seven days? That was a tough seven days, man. But he almost died.

Sure. Like he was getting towards the end of that ability. Right. Yeah, because I mean, they don't have those instincts anymore. We've bred it out of them or whatever. But like cats, you see a feral cats just be a thing. And I don't know if this is the complete reason, but maybe we've talked about this. Cats, they say, are the only animal that domesticated itself.

Like cats just decided, we're going to go in that house. Well, dogs, wolves did it to a certain extent, but then we pushed it further. We invented chickens. I know I heard that was true. That's for real? In what way? Like we were, we bred the chicken into existence. Right.

Well, kind of like a dog. I mean, a dog's not a wolf. Right. But there are wild dogs. But I think they came in between. I think it was like we started to make dogs. and then dogs went wild, but I could be wrong about that. I know, I see this thing on the internet all the time.

It's like this cartoon where it's like God, he's in heaven, and he's talking to a dog, and he's basically telling the dog, he's like, no, no, no, I have to send you down there without your angel wings. That way they won't know, you know, because your dogs are actually angels. And I'm like, you guys realize that God had nothing to do with dogs. Like, that's us. God made wolves. A bejean freeze eight.

God ain't have shit to do with that motherfucker. Yeah, that's pretty funny to think about, like, it's true. Like, God being looking at a pug and being like, you're blaming me for that? Right. Like, that's not. Like, platypus, sure, that was God. But, like, this pug with a fucking breathing machine. I really made where nature would take care of shit like this.

Exactly. They're not supposed to survive. They're supposed to be the last lion that's like sitting there licking its wounds that gets fucking eaten by the hyenas or whatever. But, yeah, no, you were not eat dogs, but like, again, why? It's a tale. It's a question that is haunted our greatest philosophers since the beginning of time. Okay. All right, let me ask you this.

The people who are like, the people who are like don't eat dogs, what if you ate a coyote or a wolf? You think they would give a shit about that? No. Right. So it's only the dogs that we made. It's only animals that are cute or animals you want to fuck. Yeah, okay. Horses don't get eaten not because they're cute.

It's because chicks want to bang. them and I don't care what chicks say a lot of y'all want to bang horses that note Amber totally wants to fuck a horse there's a new there's a horse hold on let me see if I can find this fucking horse while I'm talking uh Zootopia is like uh coming out with a sequel which I'm very excited about I don't know if you watches did you ever watch the OG Zootopia I know I haven't seen hardly any of those I was kind of like oh I'll do it when I'm a dad and I guess Rosie's getting close to be in that age but I've seen yeah you I saw cars on a plane I saw Toy Story, I don't remember why.

I don't think I've seen many others. Well, dude, Zootopia is straight up a critique of capitalism and racism. Like, it's so on the, like, I can't imagine anybody that it has to be pointed out to, but there's certain people it does. Anyways, this is the new character I'll show you in Zootopia. This is the horse. Look here. Yeah, that's a hot horse. I said, I don't know what the slur is for don't mean he's definitely said it.

It is a hot horse. And like a horse has those sharp features, those like muscles, you know, that like, and I have no doubt that like the reason that fantasy writers made the, what's the half centaurs, you know, they decided to go half horse, half man because they were like, we got to have two things someone would fuck. And definitely a horse is one of them. Yeah, I'm observing the news. I didn't create this story.

People get very annoyed at me when I say it. I've said it in various places before. But that's what it is. we don't eat the animals. We have some sort of like human emotion towards. So it's dogs. We want them to be our friend. And that's what's going on with me and the pig.

Every since I saw the little ones eating the pineapples, I'm like, well, I don't want to eat it because I want it to be my friend. Right. But with horses, though. Eddie wants to get a mini cow. And I refuse because, no, because I'm like, that's just going to be a pet. A very expensive one. And then you won't want to eat burgers. anymore.

And then my son I want to eat burgers and I have to deal with that which is fine. Given a kid of burgers the best thing you can do shuts them up for at least 30 minutes.

Well, with horses though, I think it goes back to what you were saying is like the reason that we decided which animals to eat or whatever was like functionality where it was like, well, with a dog,

we trained them to be hunters with us and a horse was your car. So you're not going to eat your car but now we don't do that. I'll accept that theory over the wanting to fuck it. I still think it's mine, but I'll accept that one.

No, no, no. I think it's yours now. I think now that's the reason. I think I'm proving you right. It's like with all the other things, once they stop being of use to us in a certain area, maybe we decided we could eat them or we didn't give a fuck about them, but like the horse didn't get that treatment. And maybe it's because they were like,

fuck, man, I want to fuck it. Because you look at a horse the same way you look at like a fucking Shelby Mustang. You're like, God. If any ladies are mad about me calling them horse girls with a horse fetish. Think about how many dudes you know who want to fuck their car. Oh, so many. So many.

So many. And we fuck dudes be fucking like lambs because their pussy's the same. I've heard that about pigs, I think. Maybe I've also heard it about lambs. Pigs too. I don't like that. It's one of those where I'm not going to type that in the computer to see if it's real. No, I can tell you that it's real because we have pigs and stuff.

And hold on, not that I haven't fucked a pig. But I'm just saying this was playing. I have infected that puss. Well, I didn't, it was pointed out to me by, they're not, they're my family's pigs, my sister and my in-laws or whatever. They're not my pigs. I wouldn't do this for my pig. That's gay.

Yeah, you can't fuck your pig, okay? But I was down at the farm one day, and I just, every time I seen pigs, I just seen them from the front, you know, and I didn't really think nothing about it. And then my- You'd never been looking at their puss. And then my uncle was just like, my uncle was just like, when I'm talking, when I'm He's like, look at that little pig. They got the prettiest little pussies, don't they?

And he was making, he was doing a joke or whatever. But I looked at it and I was like, that looks comically like a regular woman's vagina. Like it looks just like it. That's crazy. Because a dog's pussy don't look like that. I don't think, you know. This is the hell of a thing for me to say, as the guy who said, we don't eat horses because people want to fuck them. This is making me super uncomfortable.

Well, I don't want to fuck a pig. I'm just saying there was like, there was the reason. It's still better if you did. I think if you're like, yeah, I want to fuck it. But instead it's like, it's almost like we're sexualizing something that we're not even sexualized. It's very, what's the word I'm looking for? There's nothing wrong with what you're saying. It's almost like the Uncounty Valley thing where it's like, I just don't like it.

I hear you. But I'd heard that like the Scottish people talking about it, it was like, there's a reason that those, the sheep fuckers, they did, they fuck the sheep instead of the cow. and it was like because it was anatomically the closest thing. You know what I mean? I just thought it was like dick level easier to hold. Right, because on a cow you'd have to get on a stool. I've thought about this. You know what I mean?

Yeah, and they're stronger. Way stronger. And I would imagine, God, this is awful. I feel so uncomfortable. I'd imagine their pussies are bigger. Yeah, way bigger. Too big. Too big.

You know. All right. Um, this podcast is sponsored by therapy.com, I'm kidding. Well, honestly, I didn't even know if I was going to be able to talk about this, but since we just got to lambs and sheep, I think goats are very similar. And I wanted to ask you about this, because I just heard of it. And you're, um, you're very in tune with, uh, the world of Appalachia. And you know a lot more about like certain haints and ghosts and old tales than I do. And there's some things I know, like we surprise each other, but you're going to, I think you're going to ask me about goats.

because I'm going to go-adjacent. Yeah, you are, of course. But have you ever heard of the Pope-lick monster? Polk-Lick? Pope-P-Lick. Uh-uh. So, apparently, and this is one of those, like, I guess, like the Slender Man or the Moth Man, you know, those like Appalachian Ghost and shit. I don't think Slanders is ours, but go ahead.

No, slender's not ours, but Moth Man is, right? Yeah. Yeah, that's definitely ours. It lives beneath the Pope Lick-Tressel Bridge, which is a train trestle that runs. over Floyd's Fork Creek in Louisville, Kentucky, which is still an active railroad. I don't know it. Go ahead, though. Yeah.

No, you're right. But so according to local legend, is part man, part goat, and sometimes described as a sheep, human hybrid with goat legs, cloven hooves, a humanoid torso, super muscular and hairy, goat head with horns, glowing eyes and a twisted, grinning mouth that walks upright like a man, but can leap like a goat. Does it play with flute and drink wine? No, I wish. Those are my favorite. Those are those are the, what are those things called? Well, that's Pan and also fucked women.

That's true. You know, sorry, go ahead, though. So it said to lure victims onto the tracks through some kind of like mind control and can mimic the voices of your loved ones and cry for help to draw people onto the tracks so that they get hit. It can also, it also has supernatural speed and creates the illusion that the trestle is a safe. path, which makes folk misjudge it, and then they get murdered by a train. And he puts you on the train. There's nowhere to go.

Some people jump to their desk, get hit by the train. They try to hang off the side of the wall and fall. And some of the origin theories, it says here this thing. There's no single canon story, but there are a few local legends that this is my favorite one by far. It's the circus freak theory, that the goat man was a sideshow attraction in a traveling circus, born, mutated, or created via bizarre experiments. The circus train crashed near the Pope Lick trestle.

The goat man survived, and now he haunts the area out of rage and loneliness. So I've never heard of this, dude. No, I'm not familiar with the Pope Lick goat fucker. I kind of, you know, I'm in. I kind of want to see that movie, you know. There's no... It'd have to be campy, I think. Agreed or animated, for sure.

but like there's not really aside from like uh the nightmare before christmas which is way more comedy they don't really do much animated horror which i think they should i think it'd make a lot of it more the easier to sell you know i think it's harder to scare people with cartoons yeah that's true that's 100% true you know do you know i've been disturbed by them have you seen uh this is this is something along those lines you do know the appalachian thing of like like painting your front porch ceiling blue to keep out the haints and stuff. Yeah, but mine is painted. I just found out it was for haints like two years ago.

I thought it had something to do with bugs. Me and you, like mine is blue and I knew several others that were blue. And I just thought like it was just a like, oh, maybe Scarlett O'Hara did it. And it's just became a thing. But yeah, I found out about the haints. It was through a Hayes Carl song when he talked about it. Well, buddy, how I found out, ours is my in-laws is blue

and Andy was saying something about painting something no Brian was saying something about painting under his and I was like ours is blue you're gonna do the blue and he's like I don't know why would I do the blue and I said to him I don't know I think it has something to do with bugs I feel like it started on the coast like Charleston or something my in-laws do it it's a very like common southern thing I think it's like bugs don't want to get in there as much

it keeps less bugs in the porch and I said or maybe it's like heat and he's like that don't make no fucking sense and we looked it up, and it was way dumber. It was ghosts, which is even funnier. Yeah, well, don't they paint, like, they had some sort of experiment where they painted prison walls, light blue or pink, and it, like, reduced tension and anger or something. Is there anything actually to that?

Yeah, there's a study on the shade of pink. It's the one that Mac Miller has the suit on, and whatever album that is, the next to the last one. Not circles, but, oh, my God. Oh, my God. It's my favorite one, and I can't remember. Me too. It's the one he did with the bass player, Cheetah, fucking, whatever, go ahead.

I thought he did it with Thundercat. Thundercat. That's what I meant, Thundercat. That's what I said Cheetah. I knew it was a cat, yeah. I think it's Bradley. It's a name, maybe a last name. Swimming.

Like Bradley Pink or Braddington Pink. Yeah, there's studies on that it's my favorite color. was before I knew this, this hoodie you got me that I bought two more after the grizzlies one is this color, yeah. It's something very calming

about that color, whereas certain shades of red and most shades of orange kind of have the opposite effect. UT fans have started a theory of, you know, every fan base thinks

that we get cheated by the riffs, but ours, without reflecting on whether or not that's true or whether we believe it, and we are, this is true. We are one of the most,

if not the most hated fan base in America. when they survey other fan bases, we are constantly at the top, even if they go to the Midwest. That's so wild to me. A lot of people think it's because our fucking orange is so ugly. It subconsciously pisses people off.

Dude, there must be something to that because, I mean, look, there's precedent for this. Like, I don't know if it's the same now, but used to, it was always the thing where like red cars, like a red Mustang was, it was the insurance was more because red car statistically got pulled over more by the cops.

Even if they weren't speaking, cheating too much. That red looks faster or something. And like, I don't know. If you pick red, you're a worse driver. There you go. So, I mean, there definitely has to be something to it. But like, that's bizarre to me because I'm a Georgia fan. So you'd think that I would just fucking UT would like be my most hated school. They're not. I mean, like, don't be wrong. We have a rivalry and I want to beat y'all. But like maybe it's just because I grew up in a border town. So so many of my. But it's just a fan base for one. But for two of your friends are in that fan base. Yeah, and I like them, and I like you and Trey, so, like, I don't think that y'all are ass-like, but to me, I know Florida fans, and I do hate them.

Like, I have friends that are Florida fans. You're married to one, though. Yeah, I am married to one, and I don't like them. I hate them. They're the, to me, they're the worst. Or Ohio State, Penn State, fucking, I mean, you name it. You're naming the others on the list. So I think we should acknowledge that winning, you know, popularity, a certain type of arrogance, which mostly is going to come.

from the SEC or the Big Ten. These are factors that are going to always populate your top ten. But y'all really have that. But why is you, that's not true. But thank you for that. No, no, we're like one of the, we're like the fourth most successful school. You're talking exclusively about football.

We're like the fourth most successful school. Yes, I am. And so I think that we're on the list for reasons that have nothing to do with it, but we might be constantly at the top because people also really just hate the color. Okay, that's fair. But my point was that, like, obviously, in my brain, I was just thinking of football. But I'm not saying that, like, y'all just don't hit. I know y'all got a national championship and y'all been better now.

But it's like all the other schools that I named, the reason I named them is like, yeah, one of the reasons I hate them is because they were like blue bloods of the 2000s in the BCS area where, like, they just kept winning and it was bullshit. And like, yeah, Tennessee wasn't that. I mean, Georgia wasn't that either until very recently. Like, we also didn't hit. But I understand if people hate us now. I think that would probably make people hate a fan base more because I think you're talking

about hating a school or a program. I'm talking about just a fan base. I mean, and if anything, it's like an argument at your direction of like, damn, you all don't even deserve this conversation and you all act like you do. Yeah, I just, I don't hate Tennessee fans, maybe because I know them and I, and I judge, maybe I judge the entire fan base based on the dudes that I know that are Tennessee fans, and they're all good dudes. Well, let me say it this way.

Oregon, the richest school in the country. it's barely close. The only people who come closer like Ohio State and Alabama, it's all because of Nike. They have 17 different uniform combinations. No one should like anything about

everyone should feel like their fans are entitled. They've played in maybe one national title game. They've had maybe two Heisman trophy winners, maybe one. But they act like they deserve and they belong in the conversation. Did Joe Warrington win? No, Marcus Mariotto won.

That's right. He was just on the cover of NCAA that you're No one should feel the way they feel that Oregon, but we do. Right. Like people like them. And I think it's because they're rad. I don't dislike them, but they're obviously very divisive on those uniforms. I don't think they're divisive.

I think people think they're awesome. No, no, no. I think that the uniforms are divisive because I know a lot of people that hate those bright colors and how much they change. I love that. That's the only thing I like about them is because I like funky looking shit and I like that they do. they wear a different uniform every week. There's also been studies of like when the notification button on Facebook became red,

there's a clear spike in like addictive activities on there. Stuff like that is sort of depressing to think about. Like if you think about the lack of control we have, but it is very interesting, you know, like I'm going to wear pink today to make myself feel calm. I don't know. I love burn orange. and I buy almost exclusively vintage UT things because they are closer to a burn orange

because I genuinely hate Tennessee's modern orange color and it does make me uncomfortable. I got to go in a minute because I got to do still. That's fine. I just wanted to say this one thing. Did you know, maybe I told you, but you're talking about the notifications. Did you see where that dude who was the guy that invented the pull down to refresh? like he's the one that invented that and now he literally wants to kill himself because he didn't realize how horrible it would be. Yeah, he's also a dude who's written a lot about the sort of, before we had words for like the technocrats, the Peter Thills, the Elon Musk's, sort of what we're living through.

Curtis Jarvin is this philosopher king guy that they're all obsessed with about how like we should run the country like a tech company and we should have a CEO and all this creepy, fascist shit. But he was one of the first dudes to point out that was going on in Silicon Valley, that it was becoming this very specific type of anarcho-capitalist libertarian mouth frothing thing. That dude's very interesting. But, you know, he didn't win. Speaking of the Silicon Valley, I'm going to be there this week in Sunnyvale, California, June 19th of the 22nd. I'm at Rooster T. Feathers. Then after that, I'm in Fort Worth, Texas on June 26 at Big Laugh.

Then after that, I'm at, I'm in Lexington and then Charlottesville, Corey Ryan Forster. dot com for those tickets. Also go to we love Corey.com to get my bonus podcast where I put you to sleep. Drew, where are you going to be? July 25th. I am in Knoxville, Tennessee. It is my first show as a headliner in Knoxville in Knoxville in Knoxville in at least two years, maybe longer.

I'm going to be at the Barrelhouse, the links in my bio. The next night, I do think I'm going to be in Kingsport. I haven't solidified that yet, but I'm going to be in Knoxville, Tennessee, July 25th. Come on out and see me. I think I got one more show in Denver plan, and then I'm not really touring until next year. So this is huge, and it's going to be a fun time. And I got some new jokes that are really, really, really, really working for me. And I'd love to see you guys.

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