We're Out of Time - Alopecia, Confidence & Self-Love | Alex Youmazzo & Emmy Combs on Embracing Your Beauty

Episode Date: July 22, 2025

🎙️ In this powerful episode of We're Out of Time, content creators and alopecia advocates Alex Youmazzo and Emmy Combs open up about their personal journeys with alopecia, shedding light on what it’s like to live boldly and authentically without hair.Through heartfelt stories and honest reflections, Alex and Emmy discuss the emotional and social challenges of alopecia, the power of self-acceptance, and the importance of building a supportive alopecia community. Their insights offer hope, inspiration, and empowerment for anyone navigating self-image or identity.💬 In this episode, we explore: Living with alopecia in the public eye Breaking beauty standards and embracing visibilityThe role of social media in creating awareness and connectionTips for confidence, resilience, and self-loveWhether you're living with alopecia, supporting a loved one, or simply seeking stories of courage and authenticity, this episode is a must-listen. 👉 Subscribe for more raw, honest, and inspiring conversations every week.🔗 All things Richard Taite, We're Out of Time, and Carrara Treatment Wellness & Spa: ⁠https://linktr.ee/richardtaite⁠For more on Alex Youmazzo https://hoo.be/alexyoumazzo For more on Emmy Combs https://linktr.ee/emmycombss

Allopecia advocates and social media personalities, Alex Umato and Emmy Combs, join the We're Out of Time podcast. I was diagnosed when I was one and I was diagnosed at six. What is alopecia? Alopecia is an autoimmune disorder. We have two different types of alopecia. I always explain it to kids as it's almost like being allergic to peanuts. It's like our white blood cells are allergic to our hair. Like it doesn't want it there.

It thinks that it's wrong. It thinks that it needs to be gone out of the body. I actually lost my hair when I was one. So my parents got had to teach me like when I was going to school. Hey, by the way, like, kids might pick on you or they might say something, but just don't let it bother you. I used to cover my head with a bandana. It was just take it off and realize that I didn't need to hide. It's more about the bullying.

It's just about the comments. I think it's ignorant. Yes. When I was a kid, I always wished that I had somebody to look up. That's what we want to be for them because we just didn't have that. Thank you for listening to the We're Out of Time podcast with Richard Tate. If you haven't already, please follow the podcast, rate and review. And if you're getting value out of We're Out of Time, share it with someone else you know.

If someone has a problem with substance use disorder, please call one call placement. That's 8888-8-8-3-1-1581. And if we can't help you, we'll make a referral to someone who can. Please, we're out of time. Today, we've got Alex Yumazo. Yeah. And Emily Combs. Emmy, but Emily works too.

Oh, no, no, no. No, that's okay. I just go by Emmy. And Emmy Combs. Yes. Yes. Thank you guys so much for coming. Wow. Thank you for having us.

What a joy. All right. Alex is a huge TikTok star with more than 6 million followers. And Emmy is a top makeup artist and creator with over 11 million followers on TikTok. Both were diagnosed with alopecia and both have turned into something powerful. Yeah. The first thing I want to ask is for the viewers that don't know, what is alopecia? Go off, I mean.

Alopecia is an autoimmune disorder, so it causes us not to grow hair or to lose our hair. We have two different types of alopecia. So I actually have alopecia universalis. And I have alopecia totalis. Yes. So I have complete hair loss over the entire body, and I was diagnosed and I was one. And then I have hair loss just on my head and sometimes on my face, and I was diagnosed at six. Yeah.

So I have all body hair. And it is no. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. And then there's one more. which is just alopecia ariata and that's the patches. That's patchy hair loss on the head and no hair loss of the body at all. So there's three different types people don't. And alopecia ariata is like super

common. So sometimes you wouldn't even realize that a lot of people actually have it. And it's literally just categorized as bald spots on the head. And it's super, super common. And like some people do treatments for it. And alopecia ariata is like easily to kind of treat. But like kind of like what we have, our body just rejects hair. And it doesn't want anything to do with it. So we've just had since we were younger. Yeah. Basically, our white blood cells think it's something that I always explain it to kids as it's almost like being allergic to peanuts.

It's like our white blood cells are allergic to our hair. Like it doesn't want it there. It thinks that it's wrong. It thinks that it needs to be gone out of the body. The same way that people eat something they're allergic to and your body reacts and it doesn't want to be there. So we kind of have that same thing. We're just allergic to our hair at the end of the day.

The only thing I'm thinking about right now is how soft the two of you must be. We are. He's softer than me. That is so nobody's ever going to be upset. No, no, no. We have done little tests, too, on, like, we did it on our friends and her boyfriend and our other friend's boyfriend where we make them feel the back of our heads. Oh, yeah. Say who's who without looking.

Oh, that's so dope. Yeah. And you can feel like a lot of both friends. Oh, yeah. I feel like we have very similar heads. Actually, we both have like a little, like, bump. She has, like, the roundest head ever over there. She has, like, the most perfect bald and head.

It's like she was born to be bald. I love that. I love the love that you two have for each other. It's like, you do. You do. Feels so nice. Well, thank you. And what's really intoxicating about the both of you is your joy of living.

Aw. Yeah. That everybody wants that. Yeah. There's no way that someone can look at the two of you and not smile. Oh. All right. All right.

What was that like getting alopecia so young? Oh. Yeah, we have different stories. So you want to go first? I got alopecia when I was around six years old or five is when it like started. And then six is when I really lost my hair. And I went completely bald. I kind of was like okay with it 100% from the start.

Like I loved the fact that I was using my hair. I never tried to cover it up. Obviously everyone around was kind of scared so they didn't know what to do. So we tried a few treatments. None of the treatments worked. I didn't like them. So we stopped them immediately. And then once I lost like all the hair on my.

my scalp because my scalp went first. I just had no hair on the top and like some hair loss on the bottom. I asked to just shave the rest off. And then since that night, I haven't had hair. So we have that video of me literally shaving my head completely. Did you ever post that? Yeah, I have. But it's just like, I just had like a circle like bowl of hair like around. But every old, but every old Jewish man in L.A. has that same thing that I looked like. And I looked at myself in the mirror when I was even six, I knew I was like, this is. not the look for me. So I was like, please get it off immediately. So it literally took me to the back and shaped it. You never know. You could have looked really hot with a comb over. No? Glad we didn't

try for six years old me. The comb over. What was your story? Okay, so I have a little bit of a different story than Alex, because I grew up in a really small town. So I'm from Maryland, and I actually lost my hair when I was one. So I don't have the memory of losing my hair. I just grew up learning that I didn't have hair, and that was different. So my parents kind of had to teach me, like, when I was going to school, hey, by the way, like, kids might pick on you or they might say something, but just don't let it bother you. Don't let it bother you. So I just, I was like a little kindergartner, pre-k, first grade, second grade, all the way up until now, I just didn't have hair. I think I went through a phase of I was really insecure about it, and I feel like that came around really, really young.

So when I was probably like five or six, I was understanding that I was different. And I wanted to kind of fit in a little bit more and have something in my own that was not just, oh, she's a little bald girl. So I used to cover my head with a bandana. I used to tie it around the side and put it in a ponytail just so I could be kind of like hair. So it was like something that really affected me when I was a kid and going into like middle school. I think that was when I got my first wig. And I just honestly, wearing a wig at that time created a really bad. relationship with like with wigs for me because it was more like everyone was like oh why you're wearing a wig or they knew I was wearing a wig so they would say something I wasn't really like bullied

because I had such close friends that was my next question I was kidding a more for you guys already well I mean I've had I've obviously had have had negativity around it but my core friends growing up and I went to a really good school like my parents when I was a kid put me in private school so that it was like a lot less kids at one time so that people would understand stand. And then I didn't go to public school until my middle school year, which I was already adapted to like knowing what alopecia was, how to explain it, how to tell people. And my one thing was, if I just smile through everything I do, everyone else will reciprocate that energy. God, that is so good. Yeah. So that's how I kind of went through life was even though I was super insecure and no one

really know behind the scenes, I was super insecure. But as soon as I was behind my wall, like, I was like as confident as ever, even when I was covering my alopecia. And it wasn't until my junior year of high school when I took it off. It was like the biggest turning point in my life. And I went out bald for like the first time in like 10 years when I, because I did it from five to like 16, so 11 years. And it was the best thing ever did. Like was just take it off and realize that I didn't need to hide. And it was such a crazy realization. So yeah. Who is an insane time? bullied? Bullyed?

Were you bullied? I don't think it's not more about the bullying. It's just about the comments. I think it's ignorance. It's just plain ignorance. I don't think that it's, I don't think that it's when your kid, it was meant to be in a harmful way. But when you're having 900 questions about something or you're bald or why can't you do this? Or like, kids don't even mean it sometimes.

And they make, like, funny jokes to their other friend and their parents like, say, sorry. It's like things. Yeah, like, they're not. trying to be bullies. But then we do have those people who are bullies that we do come across in life. And obviously, like, we have learned to deal with that in our own ways. But when we were kids, I think it was more just misunderstanding and ignorance. I wish that more parents would teach that it's not like long hair means girl and short hair means boy.

Because I think we get that mixed up, like, a lot in societal, like, standards. I think that the second that a girl doesn't have long hair, even if they just cut their hair short to a bob, kids are like, why would you cut your hair like short or not a boy? And that's like, and it comes from being taught that because you're really taught how you're supposed to view situation. So if you're taught you have long hair, you're a girl or you have short hair, you're a boy, what are you going to think when you're out in the world and you see someone like us? So it's just like things like that. I think it really just comes from the core of learning. It is heartbreaking and it's super hard to think about, which is,

why we've tried to switch it into the mentality of it's just ignorance on their part. It's just something that they need to learn. Yeah, like, learned it yet. They haven't learned it yet. And they're not bad for it because I was ignorant a half hour ago. Right? Yeah, yeah. I was ignorant a half hour ago.

I could have said something stupid out of ignorance. Yeah. Without meaning any of it. Right, right. And you guys get that. Yeah. It's the accountability, too, to like, realize that, like, we've had some people say something that they didn't realize.

maybe was like so offensive and like we kind of like whoa and then they're like i'm so sorry and we're like i did that to you you're like when i walked in i said something stupid right and you're like whoa that's crazy question no i just every it takes time to learn and you can judge people by their covers which is what a beautiful thing that alopecia has taught us right what a gift what a gift all right has lived with alopecia changed or expanded your definition of beauty, has it become a superpower for you? Yeah, I would feel like it's become a superpower. I feel like with alopecia, you kind of have to, I mean, everybody on social media is like beauty and makeup and this is beauty, that is beauty. But the standards behind beauty, I'm like, who made up those rules? Who really decided what was huge? But everything's different now.

Right. Everything's different. When I was a kid, you had to be thin, right? And now there's a voluptuous. And bald is beautiful, guys. It really, really is. Yeah. It's gorgeous.

No, we love Chippins. Yeah. Yeah. I interrupted. No, no, no. That's okay. Yeah, I just, I feel like with alopecia, I've found more of myself. And, like, I really, really, like, think that both of us, like, glow from the inside out.

because it's like there are going to be people that are like, oh, how are you so confident? I'm like, it's really not about the hair. It's about what your attitude is from the inside out. It's about how you present yourself. It's about how you treat other people. Yeah, it's about how you treat people in the moment. It's about how you speak to people. It's about how you care what everyone around you is doing that. I feel like is what makes you beautiful, not really like everything physical. Of course, like, we do makeup. We know that putting on makeup also makes you beautiful. It's like that too. But it's all of it as a combined. There's a difference.

What made you guys start sharing the alopecia journeys? Honestly, I didn't even mean to. I think that I actually, it's a crazy thing because my friend, she actually passed away now, but she was a TikToker and she kind of just did it for fun, right? She passed away. She committed suicide in 2022. I know, awful. Like, super unfortunate.

awful. But I grew up with her and she was on, she did do it with drugs, but she wasn't on drugs. She just got really fed up one night and it was over. Yeah, it was over. So, but I love her and I'll always thank her because without her, my journey would have never started. I would not be sitting here in this chair. I would not be doing any of the things I ever did because she was a TikToker. She was posting random TikTok. She was hanging out with a bunch of people. in the TikTok community. And then I started posting stuff in my first two videos were kind of like, ha-ha TikTok, like, you know what I mean?

Like with her basically there. And then I would steal her phone and make the TikToks on her phone. And then I just started posting and they started blowing up. And then they started blowing up even more, even more and even more. And then she one day was like, we want to come hang out with me and my TikToker friends. And they were some pretty big people at the time from Musically. And I was like, yeah. And then ever since then it was like, boom.

just took off and then I met her and then I just kept posting and then I've changed my content so many times over the years but without her I really wouldn't like I didn't start this with like a mindset of I want to help people with Alpecia that I wish I did like I will be completely honest I started it as just a fun thing with her and I just think that like it was just meant to be that I got here and I get to live this life and it wouldn't have been possible without her so basically that yeah do you know what's cool yeah what's cool is there's all sorts of happy accidents in life. There really is.

Did you know that, and I've, if I get this wrong, don't beat me up for it. But I was told that, you know, post-its? Like, yeah, like a little post-it. The guy that created that was trying to find a glue that would be permanent. It was a massive failure. Oh. Massive. It couldn't be a bigger failure. Because you can stick it and stick it off.

That's right. Billions of dollars. Yeah. Yeah. Right. It was meant to be. Yeah. Well, I can also ping off of Alex.

I started social media kind of, like we met through TikTok, basically. We met at a TikTok event. So we didn't know each other when we first started our social media journeys. And I really started my social media journey because I always. I was always posting about alopecia, that's kind of where we, that's where we are so in sync, but not. Like, we are so, like, connected because we have these different stories. And I, because I grew up having that insecurity issue and because I didn't really, like, love myself at a time, I was like, if I post on social media and, like, kind of share my story, then maybe people will understand

from my perspective. So, like, I was sharing stuff when I was in high school just about alopecia and then I ended up going to makeup school in L.A. And that's what brought me to L.A. And I was super into makeup and hair. I was- You went into makeup and hair because you didn't have the hair? Hair originally, yes, because I actually am a licensed cosmetologist. And I was a licensed cosmetologist first. And it was more of like I was super interested in it because I knew I was interested in makeup. And I was like, well, let me just go into cosmetology. And I was- a quick question. I hate to interrupt. No, that's okay. Have you ever, have you guys ever thought about doing makeup and hair for people with alopecia?

We do that. Yeah. We just, we're a part of an event called the balterage and we did a bunch of. Balterage. I saw that. Yeah. Yes, that's our best friend owns Colterage.

That's what made me nuts. That's what made me nuts. Yeah. So that's literally what we just, like, we did that a week ago. We can. Yeah. Yeah. It's the best.

And I. I've got to do that all the time. We will. Oh, my God. That is. So beautiful because not only are you making it like okay, but now when you guys come in with your infectious thing you guys got going on, it's like what it says is, no, I'm special. Yeah.

I'm not like everybody else. I'm special. Oh, 100%. And for those girls, like, that's like when we were thinking about it and like me being a makeup artist, I've done makeup for so many people. and I, that's like literally what my job was before social media. Like I was doing jobs. And when I was a kid, I always wished that I had somebody to look up to.

That's right. So that's what we want to be for them because we just didn't have that. And to care for. Right. Like when they're there putting, that's an intimate thing. Yes. Someone's touching you and they're looking at you and they want to make it perfect. Yeah.

Yeah. You're important. Yes. That's a beautiful. That is a making. It's a feeling good in general. Yeah. Like I will only let me touch my face.

no one else is allowed to do my makeup. No one. Because it's a very like, it's a very like specific thing. Like, I don't think people realize how much makeup can like actually change your whole mood of the day. Like, if I wake up and I hate my eyebrows, my day is ruined. I'm sorry. I am, I am about to ruin everyone else's day too. Like, when I was in, um, when I was in like high school and I woke up and I couldn't get my eyebrows and eyeliner on right, I didn't even go. Like, who cares? He's here. I didn't even go to school because I was not having it. So, that's why I think it's just such an important thing. Like, I've gotten my makeup done fully, and I've gone into the bathroom and fully sat there wiping it off and had her come in and do it.

Like, I can't have anyone else touching my face and doing it, which is why I think it's so important that we're going to be doing it for other people with Alpecia because we know. It's like there's so much more of your face. That's actually a job. Yeah. And that is what is like, that's what they're going to look at is your makeup, especially if you don't have hair. So, yeah. Yeah. God, you guys are so.

So good. Yeah. Oh, how fun is it working with big makeup brands? Oh, it's. And share some favorites. Yeah, we both. Yeah, I feel like I started my journey with makeup a really long time ago. So when I was first starting with makeup brands, I was like, oh, wow, this is so cool.

I'm like, this is the best. And I feel like my favorite brand to work with is L'Oreal. I might be biased because I am currently working with them a lot right now. But I just, they actually created this. eyebrow pen that we use every day and it has actually changed my life because I would struggle with, I mean, I've done my eyebrows. Everyone's like, oh, they look so perfect. But this pen they created, like took my eyebrow routine from like 20 minutes sitting there, like trying to draw on these like hair like strokes to the one pen does it all. And I literally am just in all about

this eyebrow pen. You literally sit there and have a 30 minute conversation. No cameras, no anything and we're just talking about how much we love this brow pen. Three minutes. Like, no, no one's paying us. No one's, no one's even listening to us. Yeah, we're just having a conversation with each other. How much how important this brow pen is just crazy, it's a brow pen.

Yeah, yeah. We have them reach out. No, no, no, we're already working them. Yeah. She's saying off camera when nobody's. Oh, doubt it. We do work with them. Even though when we work with them, we're on camera and we're saying these things. I just think that sometimes people get confused between things that we actually like because we are sitting there. It is our job to sit

there and say that we like things. Sometimes that we don't 100% love because that's our job, you know? So we're, we just like sit there and talk about this brow pen for like an hour and how much we love it. And that is just so different. We never do that. Like there's not a different product on the that we've ever done that way. But yeah, I just feel like, um, Lorell has been like such a, like an amazing team and brand to work with. And they own like a lot of brands that you wouldn't think like that are under the L'Oreal family. So I've worked with a lot of like L'Oreal brands in general. But just their team in the way they make you feel.

Like I'm talking about the brow pen, I just did the campaign for the brow pen. And it was literally like the best thing ever. Like their team treated me like royalty. They love me and they just like really admired the way I did my brows, which made me feel special. Because I don't have any brows. So they were like, this is amazing. They look so good. Like we love it.

you, we love that you love this so much. And I'm like, you guys have no idea how much I actually love this pen. L'Oreal, let you tell you why I'm going to leave it in here. Okay? Because you did the right thing. Now, honestly, it's life-changing. Genuinely, it's a life-changing thing for someone like us. Like, the amount of kids at that event that came up to Emmy, because she's been doing the promotion for it, saying, like, I bought that pen because you made that video. And now they have eyebrows every day. And that is something that they didn't have before. There's tattoo eyebrows, but the tattoo eyebrows are shiny and peel off.

I never thought for a second that the two of you didn't have real eyebrows. Never. Not for a second. Say, yeah, you have a lot of eyebrow right now. Usually, I don't have this much eyebrow. I really posted something on my story, like embracing the hair last night because I have like eyelash and eyebrows. but mine loves to come and go.

So some things I have them, some I don't. And it's just like I'll wake up and have an eyebrows gone. That's like her type of alopecia. Yeah. Yeah. So I'll like have sometimes I'll have hair. Sometimes I right now I have like I have a lot of eyebrow. And I've never had an eyebrow hair in my life.

And I've had a peach fuzz. And I literally like we'll pluck it up. Like I literally have never had eyebrow hair or I'm in the middle. Yeah. Right. You're like. I'm like the mommy. there.

It's awesome. Yeah. All right. How long does it take you to doll up? Like this morning. It depends. Like what kind of doll up? This morning.

This morning. Okay. This morning it took me 30 minutes. Yeah. Yeah. Really like not even maybe 25. Yeah. How much better can you look?

I don't know. I mean, if we're like, yeah, we don't have foundation on. We don't have like, like, sometimes we do really fun eye shadows. Why do you need, why do you need foundation? That's like, I feel like if we're doing a super glammed look and we're doing like really popping eyes, you want your skin to look flawless and fake airbrush. Yeah, like airbrush. And we would put foundation on for that purpose. Yeah. But for right, like for both of us, like, I know we're both wearing like our moisturizer tint and like we do like glowy blush. And that's like about it. Yeah. I would say like 30 minutes for this. But if you're asking us to get ready and we're like going out somewhere, you have to give us like a three and a half hours. Yeah, like if we're putting on wigs. That's a different story. Half a day. We can't go anywhere.

We can't do anything else. First of all, let me ask you this question because this is a mental health podcast. Yeah. Okay. How do you make the decision to put on a wig or go bald? How do you do it? That's a really good question. Well, I hated wigs for a while.

I was like, I'll never put one of those on, those itchy things. I'll never cover up being bald. Like, I love myself bald. but I think that honestly came from a place of insecurity if I didn't want to see myself with the hair that I could have had, I guess. Or like, you know what I mean? Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Do you know how intuitive that is and how smart that is? Do you have any idea? I did go to school for two years and it was psychology. That was so self-reflective. That was so beautiful.

Thank you. Go on. I just, I just, um, I just, um, I just. just realized that it literally came from that fact of me being scared. And I would send so much hate towards the idea of wigs or wearing wigs with actually no knowledge of that's where my ignorance came in, how I was saying the ignorance from the bullies. That's how I know they're ignorant because this is where my ignorance comes in right here is with the fact that I thought that it was so wrong to cover up being bald. And in reality, a wig is like a fun accessory. It's like putting on a hat for the day. It's like putting on like when you go to put a ponytail in your hair,

in the morning, that's your, that's your look for the day. Like, it adds on to your look. So, like, I just had my birthday. I wanted to wear a fun, super platinum curly wig because it's different. I don't normally look like that on a Friday. So people are going to be like, whoa, she looks so crazy and so good. All I did was put on some blonde hair. It's literally like a crazy, like, switch when you don't really do much. And also, it comes off at the end of the day. So who cares? Yeah, basically. Yeah. I feel like, yeah, the same thing. Like, we just kind of decide, like, hey, we're going to this event and everyone's getting glammed. Why not do a nice slick back bun in a wig that is like so, they look so real.

So it's like, why not get that glammed up? So that's kind of where our decision comes for that. How are these wigs? Expensive. You're very lucky girls. Yeah. We do work with a lot of week companies. I get that you're getting them.

But I would say there are 1,000 to 5,000. I would say, but I feel like right now there's a lot of wigs that you can get that are super real for like, like, Zeele is like 500 to 700. But the really long that we wear. Yeah, the really long ones with the cap that are more custom, those ones go to 2,000 to 2,500, I would say. I haven't seen one that's really. Is there? Yeah. Yeah, there's a couple that are, yeah.

Is there a charity where you can buy wigs for little girls, that's. want it. You can give her hair. Okay, well, that's not going to happen. That happens. A lot of people do it actually. No, I'm talking about the people that don't have. Where can I donate? Where can we donate? Well, we're about to do a lot of the wig company. So yeah. Yeah, we're about to do a lot of things that would actually help with that, I guess. Yeah, I'll say a little like for the wig thing specifically, I know that most of all the wig brands that we work with, they have, there's like certain programs that they're like, oh, here, donate your hair. Or, hey, like, we have, like, these people.

Like, there's a lot of wig companies that work with people that can't afford wigs. But on the flip side of that, there's things that, like, we have been working on personally all year with our other friend that we have not announced yet. Let's do it. And we don't want to fully announce it because we are, we're not with our other girl that's doing with us. So we should like, we shouldn't do it without her. We're going to give you, like, what it is, like, what we're doing.

Yes. So we are starting a. nonprofit and it will have to do with alopecia and autoimmune disorders. So all of them as a whole. And there's going to be a lot of things that we are going to do in the community that are going to help people a part of our community. That is the whole point of what we're doing. We want to share the love, share the community, share the connection because we did not have that when we were younger and we do not want to focus on trying to treat us or fix us. That is not the issue. We don't want to be fixed. We just want a community of people to be able to come together and to find that support that they might not have

with their family. Yeah. And our main focus is just going to be like, why? Like, why does this happen? Like, really, why does it's happen? Why does autoimmune disorders? Yeah. It's really just for us to understand from the inside out why maybe our bodies are doing this so people can come in there and like, I have another autoimmune disease, which is called Shogran's. And I'm sure you've probably never heard of it before. But there's a community people that have that and they also are like, where do I go? Who do I talk to? That's not a visible thing that you can see. Like ours, our autoimmune disorder is very visible. Like we are, yeah, ours is a very visible autoimmune disorder, but there's a lot of autoimmune disorders that are invisible, completely invisible. And these people feel alone.

And yeah, and they're all connected. These people that have these invisible disorders feel alone. They feel tired. They don't know who to talk to. They all they're talking to is doctors about it that that are trying to treat them. And they're giving them scary drugs. Like in these foundations that are already supporting alopecia, they are backed up and supported by only big pharma companies. Only big pharma companies. Yeah.

So what we want to do is just we're just trying to do the complete opposite. Like actually be there for the people. So you're so, so really if you synthesize it down to a subject, you're perfect just the way you are. Yes. And that's really. Yeah. Yeah. And if there's things like for like my chogranes, it doesn't... Guys can take that if you want. Go on.

No, yeah. Well, for like my other autoimmune disease, it's no secret that it causes me pain. Like it does my chogranes, my other autoimmune. So it's basically an autoimmune disease that causes inflammatory in your body and it affects certain organs. So it's kind of like the sister disease to lupus. I don't know if you know what lupus is. But all of autoimmune diseases are connected. If you have one, you probably, there's a high chance you'll get one later. So me having alopecia stem to 23 years later when I'm now 24, I got diagnosed with showgirls and I was 22. I have inflammation throughout my entire body. So like the people with alopecia, for example, the people with alopecia, like they might need support that they really aren't getting.

And we just want to offer that. We really do. You guys are. Jesus. That's all we'll say about that one. You know what? I'm not going to do it. We'll have to come back.

Yeah, we, we, in a month and a half. Hey, you guys can come back and bring your move in for all I care. I'll take you. This house is really nice. Yeah, this one's mine. Have you ever felt like you had to play a character online to stay liked? That's a great question. It's a really good question.

But Alex, I think the only thing, the only thing that I think that people can get into like that character acting is I think standing up for things you believe in is really important, but I don't think that everyone should have to stand up for maybe something that they have no idea what they're standing up for, I guess. You know what I mean? I think cancel culture is a very large thing. Basically what I'm saying is I don't think everyone should be forced to speak up about everything. I think people should speak about the issues that are very important to them and that they know have knowledge on. But I think that this cancel culture, everyone needs to speak about every single thing going on it every single time puts this kind of pressure on it's like oh i can't post

today because this happened but i need to post about this but what if i say this wrong but i really want to support the fact that this is going on but what if i say it wrong so i'm just not going to say anything there's like a lot of societal pressure to say things right to do things right to say things about certain things to not say things about certain things and even if you support something that maybe everybody else does and you say something online then everyone goes at you but then everybody else in life is about to have their own opinions they all get to walk around and no one's like You know what I mean? Like, take that riff that she just did, put it on a thing.

That's a rap song. Go on. But that was awesome. It's just the fact of like, why, why can other people have their own opinions about things? But then as soon as someone on social media is everyone attacks them, it's just like, why, why does the, why does the attack happen? And I get some people are valid, okay? Some things are extremely valid. But I think that cancel culture works way too hard to the point where people go look for things

that they can get mad at. And that's what's wrong with social media right now. You know those people that get into that vicious cycle and they just can't pull themselves out of it. And they know that they're creating wreckage, but God, I can't stop. And it just gets worse and worse. Yes. Yeah.

That's what it is. Yeah. Yeah. I agree. All right, guys. Listen, what do you want to talk about? Is there anything that you wanted to talk about? It's the number three mental health podcast in the country.

and according to Apple. And I want to make... According to Apple. I love that. That's the only... Hey. Well, that's all I know. You know?

I've never seen a podcast and I've never listened to a podcast. I love it. I love it. Yeah. What I'm talking about. Yeah, because just like you guys wanted to be supportive to little girls and the boys that have alopecia. 100%. I came back because people were dying.

Children were dying. Yeah. And there's nothing more. horrible nothing on this earth than burying a child. Yeah, I can't even imagine. I can't even. You guys are such good souls. I can't wait till you have children because when you do, you be the best mothers ever.

Yeah, I feel like you would. Yeah, this one's going to adopt. I'm going to cry. No, you're going to adopt one? No, I'm just going to cry. Why, baby? Tell me. I'm thinking it's my friend.

I lost my friend, like, so recently. And then you said, like, nothing's worse than losing a child. And then I watched, like, their parents. Mental health is just so important. I just think like wherever you can find support in whatever you're dealing with, like it is so important just to have someone. Like no matter what the situation is, if it's alopecia, if it's any autoimmune, that's what we're doing.

If it's mental health, that's what the podcast is for. And I think people don't think mental health is as serious as it is. And it just is so serious. Like you can't just keep going one day and everything's fine after something so traumatic happens or like something that changes your life genuinely happens. I think the world has put pressure. on people to go so quickly through these emotions and not process them. And I just think it's important that you take a step back and you realize how many things are going on in the world right now,

how many emotions you should actually be feeling. Like, it's okay to cry. It's okay to have these feelings about things. It's okay to grieve for a longer time than other people. Like, I just don't get the timeline that society has put on everyone to have this like strong mental health, be successful. Do this. Don't drink. Work out every day. Get it. up at this certain time. If you're not doing this, you're not doing things right. Like, that is not the way you live life. So it's just important to take a step back and realize that everything on social media, half of those people aren't even doing what they're actually telling you they're doing for their mental health, like waking up at 6 a.m. and going on a run every day. Like,

there's no way, you know? So, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Like, you, like, and even girls have admitted that. They literally said, like, yeah, I would say that I was running and I wouldn't go. It's like, but you're supposed to be a mental health person making people feel better. So I just think really it's not about comparing. Comparison is like the thief of life. It really is. Second beautiful, like magnificent thing you've said today. Thank you.

Thank you. It really is the thief of life. And I think we have it in our friendship. I say that it's like we will never compare. each other to each other. We will never compete with each other. Whatever the other person gets, it's always an accomplishment and it's always for each other's biggest supporters and biggest cheerleaders. And I think that's another thing that we're losing in life is that you really are supposed to be your friend's biggest cheerleaders because they get married, because they buy a house,

because they get successful, because they get this job, you should be at their front door with a cake. You shouldn't be feeling like your life sucks because they have these things. God, I love you people. So I just think that really just sit back and like, Think about life. That's what I would say just because you brought the mental health thing if you have anything else to say. It's just like comparison. Comparicism, whatever you say, is really the thief. So really just think back at your life how lucky we are to have everything that we have.

Especially I was literally just in the Dominican Republic and watching kids run around completely without shoes and naked. And they were just so happy. They had nothing. And they were running around laughing and jumping in the pot of. And it's just like watching that was just like, okay, this is what life is about. It's not about the crazy having 900 things underneath you every day to have, just like your daughter with the one, she wants one thing of makeup. That makes so much sense because you don't need 700 million things. Really at the end of the day, you just need what makes you happy in life.

What city are you guys living in? We both live in different cities. I'm currently in North Hollywood. I'm in Santa Cruz. Okay. So on the corner of little Santa Monica. and Century Park East. There is a high rise.

Yes, I've actually, I know exactly where that is. Of course you do. Okay, that's why I'm bringing it up. Yeah. Because everybody there, you only have a few types of people there. Yeah. You got divorces, husbands, that are running out of that place

because they got nowhere to go, right? And it's furnished. Yeah. They've got guys putting in their sugar babies or mistresses, right? And the third is celebrity, celebrity, typically people that are bicostal. Yep, and they're dispisiting. Right, so they don't have to sweat it. And the fourth is my favorite.

The fourth is all the kids and their lambos. right? Okay. That are just doing whatever they can to stay above water because their overhead is 20 to 30 grand a month. Yeah. Right? And they don't have five nickels to put together. Yeah.

Right? It's like that must be so exhausting. Yeah, to keep up that. In this social media world of this influencer, thing that you guys are, are part of, right? What's with all the bullshit?

Dude, it's just people trying to become famous. That's what I said the comparison is a thief because these people have actually nothing at the end of the day.

Nothing. No, no, they have nothing. They have everything. No, no, no. Kids your age think they have everything. I know they have. I know people with...

But kids our age are the people who are looking at that and thinking like, I'm not doing enough. I'm not, I'm never going to be anything. I can't do this. I can't do that.

And it's all a lie anyway. It's all a lie. Yeah, it's all a lie. So that's why I just think it's important just to like, whatever life that you're living, just find the happiness in that life. Like don't try and live someone else's life or try and like going.

How hard is that though? How realistic is that, you know, you know what social media is, right? It's high school. Yes. Yeah, literally.

It's you're back in high school. Yeah. And there's like the mean girls group. Yeah. The judging and the- And you're the sweet girls. You're like the sweet girls that I was friends with. Thank you. Yeah. It's okay. Nobody liked me anymore.

What? No, but I liked- I had no friends in high school either. I didn't. I didn't. I was a quarterback and everybody hated me. Okay. I swear to God, how does that even happen? That's like first time ever.

Like, that's something, those are words that have never been uttered In human history. Like the quarterback. I was the quarterback and everybody hated me. Anyway. Yeah. Okay. I like that you guys have the heart of a servant.

That's how you operate in the world. Oh, yeah. With the heart of a servant. Yeah. It's the most beautiful thing in the world because when you do something, a lot of people do it and they don't do it with, you know, a joyful heart. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

You guys do that. Yeah, we have fun. We love what we do genuinely. We love it. We love it. I love the love that you have for each other. Yeah. Love it. We do everything together. I love it. Literally like sisters. Like I was to come alone today and I was like, I think Emily should come with me. And if I do anything alone, I'm like, I think can I also bring Alex? If not, I'm not going. Well, let me tell you, let me tell you, you guys know where I live. Okay. No, we're coming back. we're bringing kiss to you remember you can ladies you can bring anybody you want at any time you want my home is your home and i think you're both magnificent don't stop doing what you're doing thank you so much all right yeah thank you right where can people find you guys we're on all platform yeah everything so my um my social media is at emmy c o m b s s and mine's alex y umazza A-L-E-X-Y-O-M-A-Z-O on everything.

All right, ladies. I used you already. See you next Tuesday. Damn. Oh, okay. All right, we're going to give you the junior balls easier. Okay, you get five throws and I go ahead and I get one throw to beat you. That's it.

Okay? So let me explain the game. All right. 1.2 points, 3 points. 4 points, 5.6 points. 7, 8, and 9 points. You get 5, I get one. Oh, shit.

Okay. All right. Any time? Anytime. Oh, that's all. Okay? Oh, it's in. That's it.

You got three? You got that in? That one didn't do it. Oh my God. This is a disaster. Just one goes in. There it is. Oh, my God.

There's no way for me to win now. That's right. There's no way for me to win. And I just lost that on a promotion. We're never running this.