We're Out of Time - Chef Boy Bonez Reveals His True Self

Episode Date: March 18, 2025

Chef Boy Bonez is a rapper who appeared on Season 15 of America's Got Talent. Chef shares his story of transcending disempowering ways and decisions to live a more empowering life on the "We're Out of Time" podcast with Richard Taite. They're joined by Carrara Treatment Wellness & Spa's Dr. Ken Spielvogel, MD. For all things Richard Taite, the We're Out Of Time podcast, and Carrara Treatment Wellness & Spa: https://linktr.ee/richardtaitehttps://www.1callplacement.org/For more on Chef Boy Bonez:https://www.instagram.com/chefboybonezKey moments from this conversation with Chef Boy Bonez, Dr.Spielvogel & Richard Taite. Intro 00:00Chef gives an inside look into the underground rap scene and substance use. 00:46Does Chef know anyone who has ODed? 02:21What are the effects on a family who loses someone to substances? 05:30Chef's EYES POP out over how much money?! 07:57Why should families have Narcan? 09:40When did Chef Boy Bonez first try a substance? 12:29What was Chef's gateway substance and why now does he understand why he used it to start? 15:09How can negative relationships take us down a bad path? Chef shares. 21:55"When to stop." 27:02Check out Chef Boy Bonez NO JUMPER FREESTYLE 33:54

$165,000. I just want to encourage people, man, for my 13th birthday, hanging out with some kids who I thought were my friends later on in life. These guys are nowhere to be found. I was still trying to get a higher escape something else from trauma. Knowing now, as an adult, I can definitely look back and say this is the reason why. I count times in my life where I'm like, I should have been doing that, what I'm doing now. My other homie Ety comes in and he's looking for his gummy bears.

He's going off. He's like, yo, who ain't my, my, what's my gummy bears? I'm like, I'm like, yo, bro, here's a dollar. My bad, you know what I'm saying? We don't mean to eat your gum. I'll go get you some more. Is that serious? He's like, no.

You know, a lot of people are chasing the eyes. Thank you for listening to the We're Out of Time podcast with Richard Tate. If you haven't already, please follow the podcast, rate and review. And if you're getting value out of We're out of time, share it with someone else you know. Chef, thanks for coming by, man. I really appreciate it. Thank you for having me. Thanks, bro.

So let's go. Let's get right to it. You're in the rap scene, the underground rap scene. You've got a lot of friends. You guys are doing that whole thing, right? Do you have a rapper? I'm in the industry. Okay.

You see a lot of drugs, press books. That's all it is. So all the industry is is drugs. I mean, that's not all it is. Let me take that back because there are a lot of artists that don't do drugs. But yeah, for the most part, that's the starter. That's the Kickstarter. Go.

You go. It's a main one if you had to say, like, this is what most people are doing. Most artists are a drink sipping lean, codeine with permatizine. perks cocaine um e pills you know

MDMA you name me it goes on shrooms shrooms are a little bit more on the cool side you know they don't really

overdo the shrooms I would say they don't overuse you know overuse of the shrooms but the 30s and the lean oh yeah

that's like candy right there that's like that's like studio edicky you don't you don't go to the studio unless you have that

where are they getting it Are they getting it from physicians? Are they getting it on the street? The ones who got money are getting it from people that are close to physicians. You know, I would say we get to the closest plug that's getting it from a doctor. But the ones who don't have money are getting it from the street. And, of course, you know, the streets are, they're making it, whipping it up, cooking it and making it right in the kitchen.

So you don't know what you're getting at that point. But you're chasing that high. Right. You know, a lot of people are chasing that high. So. And do you know anyone that's overdosed? Yeah, I have, man, several friends, too many to sit here and name them one by one are, rest of peace, all of them. But I'm a Valley kid.

I'm born and raised out here in California, and I was raised in Sherman Oaks. You know, right off of Ventura Boulevard, I spent a lot of my early days as a kid, skateboarding on the block. You know, on my block, I would say Ventura Boulevard was my street. Cool street. Cool, cool area. calm, shremant oaks. But behind, you know, behind those walls as kids, a lot of kids was on drugs. A lot of my friends were OD and a lot of my friends were heroin addicts, young, smoking off a foil.

A lot of them were sipping from a benzeneal codeine. You know, I've lost 10 fingers, how many friends I've lost from now from 17 years old to 33. Bro. You know? Just living in the valley is enough. Just living in the valley is enough to get you doing drugs. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's, you don't know what it's like.

growing up in the valley man. I grew up right next to him in Encino. Okay. It is the Cairns in the valley are just nonstop. There's all the people who are pissed, they don't live in the city. That's essentially what it is. Yeah. Oh, and it feels like the center of the sun in the summer.

Yeah. Like I literally, you get out of the car and you want to cry. That's how bad it is. Right, right. Right. I can agree with that. Dude, I got so spoiled being here in Santa Monica and in Malibu. Like, you come from the city there.

You go broke here because they come here for this weather. People come in just for the weather. Just for the weather. Just for the weather. That's right. So you have like in this day and age as an adult making music and out there and you have a friend who's buying, say, he thinks he's getting a perk on the street. Is there any feeling?

of like, this shit could kill me. It could have fentanyl in it. It might be laced and I could die. Yeah. I mean, one of the homies, I'm not going to say his name, but he was getting perks from an unauthorized dealer, you know, that we've known that this dealer presses pills, and he still's getting him.

He still wants to chase that high, you know? It doesn't really get that. It's an addiction at a certain point, it's an addiction. Right. You know, when you're dig into something and I feel you don't really care, you're just chasing the high,

you're chasing that feeling. Just for the viewers. Just for the viewers, you know. If you're doing the perks or any opioids at all, right, for longer than five to seven days, it's got you. You don't have it. Right.

There's no more, you don't have a choice anymore. Right. And you have to probably get medical help, I'm assuming. Absolutely. So let me ask you questions. Yeah.

You know any friends? You have friends who have friends who, have died of fentanyl. Yes. Okay. Just speak about one of them, about what it did to their parents or their family structure because it destroys families. It completely destroys.

So I want to hear a little bit about something, if you know, about the pain it caused, the people left behind. Oh, man. A real up one was, I'm not going to say any names. One of my buddies, he died early off of the drug. And the crazy thing about it was he was a really good kid, nice family. His family had money. They were, you know, he wasn't struggling anything like that, like A-LIS family.

And his mom and died actually died early. So all of his assets and she was left to him and his sister. and his sister was obviously taking care like her little brother, but he died. So when he died, it was like his mom, his mom and dad were already around. So that's,

I think, was the biggest reason probably why he was on drugs because he didn't have his mom and his father. His mom and his father died. And when his mom and father passed away, that's when he got really bad on drugs because before his mom and died, before his mom and dad died,

he wasn't on drugs, but they died in a car crash. So do their car crash when his mom and died. when his mom and dad died, he got off drugs, everything was left to him and his sister, and he ended up passing him away. I wasn't too close to his sister,

so I don't know what her pain felt like, but I know what my pain felt like as I was his friend, and losing a friend is, you know, there's no happy feeling at all. But just to know his story, you know where his pain comes from being older now,

because back then I didn't really, couldn't put the two and two together, like all this wise guy doing drugs. Like, he's, he has the best life. I'm going over here. I got a skateboard to school, and he's,

he's driving out of school. It's like, you know, it's like, why is your life so bad where you have to do drugs? I don't understand the pain that he was going through, you know, whatever his coping making was. Two me as man.

Okay. You know anybody you're suffering. You send him over here. We'll find a spot for him. My treatment center, Carrera, is the finest treatment facility in the world. We're not getting anybody from the podcast. This is about just,

talking about drugs and the evils of fentanyl and how it's putting all of our children and our loved ones in harm's way. So that's all this is. My center is $165,000 bucks a month. $165,000. Come on, man. $165,000.

Come on, man. Hey, God, can you fix that? That's exothalmus. What does that mean? that's what that is that's a skill right there it took a long time and look how to do that

that figure will make your eyes pop out that will make your eyes that's a lot of money but if there's no there's no amount of money that if the help is there right there's no lot of money in the world listen

all seriousness the you know nobody can go to Carrera I mean we've got 18 beds you know they're full There's a wait list.

It's always full. It's always a wait list. But there's 18. It's never going to be more than 18. We've got affordable centers that people can go for like $250 or $500 for a deductible and do that. But some people don't even have that insurance. Right. And that's what I'm saying.

We've got this place called one call placement where you can call, right? We don't get anything out of it. all we do is we find a spot for these people to get well because if we can't help them and, you know, maybe we can help maybe 20% maybe of the people that call. The other 80% have to be referred out, you know? We don't ever want anybody to feel like they don't have the money. Right. Okay?

Because $165,000 is a lot of money. I support GTRS, twin turbo. Is it? Yeah. Hell yeah, it is. But it wouldn't bring your kid back if your kid. died of a fentanyl. He wouldn't bring a kid, right?

I have friends of mine who will, like you, remain nameless, made a ton of money, hundreds of million dollars in investment banking. And sadly, my friend passed away, and then their son just decided on a whim that he was going to try a perk that was laced with fentanyl, and he died. Yeah. If they had had Narcan in there, I'm just trying to. This is a year ago. Now, if you said to them, $165,000 a month,

we'll take your kid and get them clean, don't think for one second they would have done it knowing what the outcome might have been, right? I mean, no amount of money brings your child back. A lot of people don't know, though, bro. A lot of people don't, they don't play through. They don't think it's going to happen to them, and they don't want to part with the money.

It's fine. Yeah, that's Steve, man. That's it. But they don't have to. That's the point. They don't have to because there's all these different levels of care. You don't have to pop for 165 clicks. Right.

You know, if you've got a kid. Right. Okay. You know, that's for your wife. That's for you. Yeah. Okay. That's for your kid if you like them.

Right. I mean, it's not, it's not for everybody. But everyone's got a place to go. And we got a list of everywhere we can send people. because it's so hard, right? If you're calling on drugs, right? And you've got that moment of clarity. You've just called 10 places and gotten jerked around.

You don't want to get sober anymore. Right. You want to get loaded because this is... Right. Much crazy. You know what I mean? Anyway, I want to ask you a couple questions. Did drugs or alcohol ever play a role in your life?

Yes. Tell me about it. Oh. The most recent? Sure. Let's start there. So let's start there. The most recent.

Actually, to be honest, marijuana. Marijuana is the catalyst for everything. The first time I smoked marijuana, I think that if I never smoked weed, I think I'd probably be a little bit further off in life. Right. I'm going to get a great place and I'm thankful for where I am. I saw the woman you're going to marry.

You're doing better than me. Man, you know, I probably, if, maybe I'd already be married already sitting in that freaking castle, but it's coming.

How old were you when you first smoke? 13. 13. I never forget the day I smoked with. I smoked with my 13th birthday. Um, hanging out with some kids who I thought were my friends later on in life. For those guys are nowhere to be found.

And we're not friends anymore. So, um, smoking weed with these guys on my 13th birthday. When I should have been home, my mom planned a surprise birthday party for me. I never had a surprise, a surprise party.

And instead, my homies were like, you, after school, we're going to go get high. Come get high with us. And I'm like, every birthday's been the same, not knowing my mom's throwing a surprise birthday party for me. So I'm like, I go kick it with the homies. And they're always blazing. I was a square.

I'm like, so I'm not going to smoke, but today's my birthday. I'm 13. I'm feeling like a man for some reason. And the homies are blazing. I'm like, today I'm a smoke today. So we went to the homies house and he was stealing weed from his mom. I never forget this.

And he stole some weed from his mom. Roll the blunt up. We went on the side of his house. We smoked his blunt. And it started getting, it was about six or seven. It started getting dark around there. And I'm like, it's my birthday. I'm stoned already, though.

I'm like, I got to get home. So I called my dad. My dad, he's like, he's pissed. He's like, where the fuck are you? It's your birthday. You should be here. And I'm like, every birthday has been the same. Like, what's the, he's like, where are he?

So my dad comes and he gets. me he picks me up and in the ride that i'll never forget that right home because i was so stoned that i didn't this is my first time smoking weeds i don't know what's going on my dad is just pissed though he's like are you fucking high right now and i'm just like yeah and he's like going he's smoking you're making bad decisions i i'm just like this is going through one here out the other when i get home and my whole families and my cousins there my mom's there my dad got a cake and my mom made me lobster and shit And I just felt like a piece of it because it was out getting stone.

But yeah, 13 was the first time I smoked weed. That didn't keep you from getting stone again. That didn't keep me from getting stone again. That increased my love for marijuana. I still smoked it today. I've been smoking marijuana as I was 13 years out of taking periodic breaks throughout this. All right. Well, let's get off the marijuana thing because that's never killed anybody.

Yeah, for sure. Did it kill anybody? But I want to hear it. So you said that because of that. So because of marijuana, that definitely opened up the doors later on. Okay. but hold on a second. Let's see if he knows why.

Why? Why did marijuana? Yeah, why is the marijuana the gateway drug for you? I think it was just, it was a drug. It was like, I did marijuana and it was like, okay, cool. And all these other drugs now are just like, okay, cool. It's like being at a club and people are in the bathroom doing bumps of cocaine. It's like, oh, you're doing a bump?

Oh, you're doing a bump. Okay. I'll go to. It's social. It's very social. Now, let me ask you a question. Did you get high enough? on the marijuana.

No, but the marijuana gave me a feeling that time out. No, I didn't get high enough. That was the answer. No, I didn't get higher enough. That's why it was the gateway drug for you. That's why it was a gateway drug for me. I didn't get high enough. That's right.

I was still trying to get a higher, escape something else from trauma, low and now as an adult. That's the answer right there is the escape. This is actually a rabbi who said that drug, alcohol use, is rooted in someone's, uncomfortableness in self and whatever that's related to, be it drama, you know, family dynamics, whatever it is. Can you look back and say like I was escaping from eight?

Oh yeah, for sure. Looking back at it now, yeah, definitely. I can definitely look back and say this is the reason why I smoked. And I count times too. I'm like, I count times in my life where I'm like, I should have been doing that, what I'm doing now, but I was smoking weed. And I'm like, oh, that's why I was smoking weed because that, you know, this is the reason why. But ultimately, healing that reason while smoking weed made it a little bit easier to get done what I had to get done.

So I have two questions. One, what was the that that caused you to use to escape from? Is it anything you can talk about? Can you answer it with your eyes out? No. No. Yeah. That scared me.

going to get him again running out the door don't do it again don't do it again um man talking about just probably just probably family uh family broken broken home

broken childhood you know losing a lot of family members when I was young I was very close to my what did you lose just illnesses um just a broken family like my uncle died when I was young

my grandmother I was very close with my grandmother and my uncle and these are just family members that were, you know, close. My moms and my dad were on drugs when they were young. When I was, when I was young, so that probably was drug abuse in the home, you know, my dad not always being around.

So just certain absences, you know, being a feeling. That's what led to the use. Yeah, for sure, for sure. Have you ever been so messed up that your eyes popped out accidentally? Never. But they have, I have been so gone one time of my. I was my first time doing acid. On acid, your eyes?

My eyes popped out on acid. I was in the mirror. I was looking at myself in the mirror on acid. And I was staring at myself and I was like in disbelief that I could protrude my eyes the way I protrude my eyes. And I protruded my eyes in the mirror off acid. And it was just like the craziest thing I've ever seen. I've never seen a being like it. I don't even...

The first time your eyes ever came out? No, that wasn't the first time my eyes ever came out. The first time I ever came out. the first time I... No shit. I'm going to put this on the podcast, right? Yeah. For sure.

A lot. I can't. But yeah, I was awful... The back on that story, I was off acid. I never wanted to do acid. Uh-huh. And I, um, my homies was in a studio session, and my boy was buying acid in a big studio session we were in.

And he happened to have these triple dose gummy bears. And everybody cleared out the studio. and I'm in the studio session with my homie razor. We're mixing the session. And the homie's like, you know, we're smoking weed. We're faded. We got the munchies. The homie's like, damn, a pack of gummy bears.

So he starts smacking these gummy bears. I'm like, yo, throw me some. So I eat two gummy bears. Both the homie shady comes in. He needs two gummy bears. Shut up my boy, Wacklekeke. We're at ABC Studios back in the day. One other homie comes in, he eats two gummy bears.

And I'm like, hell yeah. Craving satisfied. 30 seconds later, my other homie Eitie comes in, and he's looking for his gummy bears. He's going off. He's like, yo, who ate my gum? Where's my gummy? I'm like, I don't know my pocket.

I'm like, yo, bro, here's a dollar. Like my bag, you know what I'm saying? We didn't mean to eat your gummy. I'll go get you some more if it's that serious. He's like, no. He said, you guys just ate three double dose gummies of acid, whatever. Mind you. I've never wanted to do this drug ever in my life.

And you're just telling me that I just ate two gummies with three drops of acid on. I freaked out. I'm like, oh, my God, I'm tripping. So my homies down the hall, these guys, they're hippies. They trip out. They do acid all the time. So I run down to the hawk. They're like, yo, what's up, bones?

I'm like, I just did acid. They're like, oh, yeah, finally. I'm like, I'm like, no, no, no. They're like, how much you do? I'm just like, two gummies with three drops and they're like, oh. And these are my homies that do ass it. They're like, yeah, your bots are going to trip, my boy. And I went on a trip that day, yeah, outer body experience.

Dude, I would have drank a half a bottle. You could have brainwels from that. And the crazy thing is, I want to throw it up. So I'm like, I'm like, only thing I can think of is, throw it up. No, you don't do that because when you throw it up, it hits your system even harder because it's coming out of the body. Does it?

Yeah. I mean, if you create that pressure and get in the bloodstream faster. Yeah. And that was a ride of life on. If you had more, you'd be dead. I probably would have died that night. Right. I was so fried.

I was so, I was somewhere where I wasn't supposed to be, but I was still here. And the only thing that I could put together, in my mind off this acid trip was that we are just spectacular beings greater than what we really know that we are. So you don't do acid or mushrooms? No. You've done a couple of...

I'll microdose on some shrooms, but I won't do acid. It doesn't matter. I won't do acid again. That one trip took me to where I need to go. I feel like I never need to experience experience with any type of drug again after that acid trip. I feel like I went on a trip listening that story. Yeah, tell me to do acid again after that.

So you said you were 13 when you smoked weed, and then when did it lead to other stuff? Am I girlfriend watching this at the same time? I don't know. Can she watch it? Like, is this like live showing? I'm sure they've got it on. I'm sure they're all.

Is that bad or good? That's great. That's cool. I love her. I love her to see you in my element. Yeah, no, no. I'm sure she is. So the question was what?

Like what age and what led next? from just doing weed at your 13th birthday? Probably 17 and women. Sorry. No, no, no. Women. Right. There was this hot chick that lived next door to me.

She was 24 years old. I was 17 at the time. I was only smoking weed. I probably hadn't done any drug ever but smoke weed. And there was this hot girl that lived next door that everybody wanted. And she happened to be into, well, I'm not going to say, she was into me. She was an every guy, but I was the innocent. guy, like this innocent, young, handsome guy I happen to be.

And I fell in love, man, with this chick next door. Because she was just, she was it. She was just this bombshell. And I'm just like, I'm in love with this girl. She was everything. She was kindhearted, fucking free spirit. Just everything you can imagine the girl next door, this is your girl next door. But she was heavenly off drugs.

And she was actually doing perks. She was doing real percettes, though. This was back in like 2000. 11. Right. So she was doing real shit, not this pressure that they're doing now. She was doing real drugs. And she was doing mushrooms and perks.

And she was drinking liquor. And she was just doing it all. And that was the first time I ever did a perk. It was with this girl. That was the first time I ever got drunk. It was with this girl. And a drunk and off a perk. At 17.

At 17. With this girl next door. And that was like a thing for like a year or two. You know? That was like a thing. That's a long time from when you first smoked weed at 13. That's four years. Yeah, that was like a thing or two because I was in love with this girl.

And that's all she did. So hanging out with, I was kind of like dating her while she was dating the world. But she was, you know, she was like pimping all these dudes. And I was just, you know,

getting free. And she was buying me wherever I wanted. So it was like, you know, she was 24. She was taking care of me. And I was living next door. I was like,

you know, I didn't really know what life was. That's what life was. It was just this hot chick. She goes out. we go to expensive dinners and you buy me all type of designer clothes and I don't really care who she's who her who her sugar daddy was. It didn't matter to me.

That was under my business. You know what I was saying? That's awesome. Yeah, that was. That's awesome. That's the first time. Why is that wine? No, chicks are the gateway drug.

No, yeah, it was a gateway drug. She definitely was a gateway drug. If I probably, because at that time, I was had my own life going on. I was in the streets. I was rapping. I was doing shit, but I wasn't in drugs, into drugs. I was around homies that dead drugs. I can say my homies are passing away doing heroin.

They're smoking shit off on foil. And I had never touched a piece of foil in my life. Thank God. I could take my hat off and kiss my baby to that. You know what I'm saying? I've never put a needle in my arm. I do. I have a seven year.

A nine-year-old. Damn, time flies by. I got a nine-year-old. Wow. Boy, Jalius Legend Jones. Shout out legend. Yeah, I got a son, man. That's a dope name for a kid.

That is a good name. Yeah. Jolius. Jalius. Jalius. Jalius. Jaliyah. Yeah, like Ja, like Yahweh, Yahshua, Jaliyah.

Jaliyah. Yahshah. Yeah. That's the reason. That's what his name derives from. So 17.24. How long does that last? 17.24.

That lasted about, like I'll say, two years. It ended up because she ended up getting strung out. I ended up moving. We ended up moving to a different part of the city. And she just ended up getting strung out. And by the time I was 19, she just didn't look the same anymore. more and our relationship had changed. You know, she had more bodies on her and I was, I was growing at that point.

Like, if I had been maybe 24 in the same mindset as her, I probably would have, because the, the chemistry being this chick had was like, you know, I'm thankful that I have better chemistry with my girl than with now, but, you know, as far as that, that would have never lasted because she was on drugs. So that relationship never would have went anywhere. So you're 19 done with her. Where are you at drug use wise by that time? 19 done with her

Sipping Lean I'm gonna be honest I was sipping from metazine Kodiene around that time I was drinking lean All my partners you know We were we were sipping lean And pop to X

You're making music then And I'm making music then I'm rapping at the basement 818 Shout out the basement 818 818 on Ventura Boulevard Oh I've been I've driven past I'm the freestyle champion

That's a club It was a paint store Slash record shop I sold paint and they used to host battles every last Sunday of the month. Really? So I would go out there with my big brother, Top Notch, and we would rip heads off.

I'm known in the Valley for sure. Besides my eyes, I'm like an underground MC. I'm an underground rap legend from the 818, San Fernando Valley. So people didn't know me from my eyes, which caught on later years later, but I was known from my lyricism. Did you, was at what point in your life

were you thinking to yourself, like, this is a problem? Like, my use is a problem. Or did you never think that? Um, in my 30s, looking back, from all the years I've smoked marijuana. Um, I have no regrets on doing it, but just, you're still doing it. I do it moderately now. I don't, I don't smoke as much as I used to.

I will smoke like an ounce every other day. We're smoking like big, like, I'm calling it with my brother. He's has a big weed brand. Like, my, my, we smoke pounds.

Like, I smoke weed. Like, you know, but it's all in moderation. You shouldn't feel you shouldn't stress the brain. You know, I've been smoking for so long that it's,

at some point in time, you have to tell yourself, when is to stop. You got to take a break sometime. And that's part of that addiction. You know, weed is a very addictive drug. And it's not really that actually take the back. It's not really the weed.

It's the tobacco mostly for me because I split my wheat. So I'll say I'm more addictive tobacco than I am smoking marijuana. Yeah, but you've never been to rehab and you've never been to A&A. No, I'm a strong person. I'm strong mind. I've been through so much bulldo. Through my childhood that I've never ever got too strong out because at the same time, I've done drugs to escape certain situations.

but I've seen it in my family firsthand. I've seen drug addicts in my family. I've seen what it does. It's two things. Dead or in jail. I've seen that. I don't want to be dead. I don't want to be in jail.

It's a fine line. Pick one. So it's like it's moderation. I'm not going to sit here and lie to anybody and say I've never done drugs before because I have. But am I a drug addict? Do I use drugs every day? No, I don't. It's interesting.

You, you know, the idea like I've used drugs, but I'm not an addict. Like somebody who treats addicts and is around addicts all day, they do not possess that power. Once they are hooked, they are hooked. Right. There is no, because I know me, like, I'm not an addict. I can have one beer and that's it. I'm not sitting there thinking I need five or six or ten or twelve. And I'm just not an addict.

I could smoke one cigarette and that would be it. Right. But it is, it is, people are powerless. You know, bro, you're a serious guy. Do you ever feel like people may not see you as the serious man that you are because of the eye pot and thing? To a certain degree. How does that make you feel?

I love it because everything's perception, you know? one of my favorite comments that I love seeing I love I pin it every time I see this comment is a grown man by the way and they're referring to you know my videos like this is a grown man doing this and I love it because in the end of the day I'm a kid inside I'm never going to grow up and if you've grown up already well that sucks for you and I just I pray for you because growing up sucks good will you pray for me tonight please no it's okay man you just grown up sucks it does It does, but you can't let that be the end all. You know, we live, we came, you're not knowing, we're going to leave, not knowing.

So just be that kid at all times. And keep that kid and you keep that kid alive. You can't, want you, I feel like once that kid dies, you die. A secure man is cool with being underestimated, right? There's nothing out there, man. What I figured is, I lost my mom two years ago, rest in peace, Theresa Jackson's tattoo. I got on my face right here. It's my mother's name.

I put a bunch of, the reason I even have face tattoos, because I told myself, I was like, when I first had it myself, I said, I'm never going to work a job again. I was working a time-winner cable. Oh, that's awesome. I was making $100,000 a year in sales. I was living a good, chill life. I'm 20-some years old. I'm making $100K in sales. I'm killing them.

I got the gift or gab. You know what I'm saying? I'm on the phone. I'm killing their ass. Right. I'm killing them so bad that they don't want to bring me up in the bracket. They don't want to make me supervisor. They don't want to make me a manager.

They want to keep my ass right. there on the phone and I said, that's a problem. So I said, I can't work here anymore because I'm never going to own this business. I'm never going to be the owner here. I'm always going to be the aunt. So I tat in my face. I put my son's name. I had my son, Jalias back in 2004.

And I tatted his name on the side of my face. And I said, I have this tattoo. I'm never going to work a job again. I tated my son's name on my face. I literally made a video. Me and my buddies were sitting in the studio and we're like, my boy's like, bro, he's like, you got all these talents, bro. You can rap.

You're smart. You're this, you that. But nobody knows you. He's like, you can pop your eyes out of your head, bro. He's like, let's go viral tomorrow. Let's do something. He's like, put it on the internet. And I was self-conscious about my eyes.

I never, I was doing it. Like I said, I'm a legend in the valley. Everybody knows the guy that pops his eyes at that raft, but they don't know me on the internet. So this day, we all go to the store. We make a video and I'm like, tomorrow we're posting it. This is it. We post a video in the morning. I wake up.

It's a million views. I quit my job. And I've never been. I've never, I've never worked a nine to five jobs since then. And then I continue to tat, you know, because I fell in love with the art. I got tats all over my body's covered. But the last tattoo I said I was going to put in my face was my mom's name. So that's the last one of my face.

But I just lost my mother and father in 14 days. Oh, man. I'm not going to tap my face, but maybe I'll condolences, man. That is a great story. That is a recognition of self and worth, right? Yeah. Like, I'm doing this. They're keeping me down.

They're keeping me down. I'm going to do my own thing. I'm going to do my own thing. And that's what I did. That's the American dream. It is the American dream And everybody has it in them That is the best story

About the use of YouTube That I've ever heard That is cool The internet to change your life Yeah If you utilize it the right way I can't stop watching them I want Kenny on from now on

I think Sheesh He said good No that's such a good story In the comment section Let us know if you want Kenny He's out every week

and don't anybody say I suck and he's better than me because I already know that. All right. All right. Let's, what do you want to talk about? What do you want to plug? What are you doing? I want to support you in anything you're doing. Definitely tune in to all the great music that I have continued to drop.

I'm finally in a dropping zone. Check my music out. It's on all streaming platforms at Chef Boy Bones. continue to follow me on all social media platforms. The only handle that I have is at Shev Boy Bones. And I just want to encourage people, man, to stream. I want to encourage people to drop content. I want to encourage that fellow content creator, that rapper,

that's looking at this podcast is watching this right now, man. Put your shit out there in the world because you never know who's going to like it. That circle that you have of 10 friends, there are 20 people in your circle, the world is bigger than that. And I never knew how big the world was. was until I posted and believed in myself. So just put the content out there. You never know where it's going to go.

Just create. Stay creative. So is there a song that you own, not that you had on a label, not that somebody else wrote or has any ownership in it all? Is there a song that you have that you like us to play for you on the outro? Yeah. I can live and give you one for sure. Which one?

Oh, man. That's a tough one. It'd have to be no jumper freestyle. It just dropped. I was on a roll to 100,000 subscribers on YouTube. We're 2,000 away. We'll probably be there by the night. So that no jumper freestyle is dropping this Friday, all platforms.

So you go ahead and hit him with the no jumper freestyle. All right. We got that. We got that. All right. Sheesh. Hey, man, y'all know the Vise. It's your boy, Shep Boy, Bones.

We'll see you next Tuesday. Excuse me. Oh, God, that's so good. It's scary. What's scary? It scares me. I don't know why. I'm glad it scares you.

I have you here. I got it. I'm the straight man. I'm glad it scares you, man. It's so nice to meet you. Thank you. Thank you for having me the best, bro. If you were a loved one is struggling,

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